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roach OTK edition

Shadowverse is a free-to-play, class-based collectible card game similar to Hearthstone /hsg/
The expansion, Rise of Bahamut released on Dec. 29th.
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Platforms: iOS, Android, Steam (http://store.steampowered.com/app/453480/)

Official Website:
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Make a copy to edit your own.
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1st for luna!
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Here's a test you dumb faggots.
What's the best possible play here?
I'll love you guys no matter your answer.
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I-I want to touch Amelia!
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>>164777887
fug the loli
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>>164777746

Not Tier 1 according to Gamepress
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>tfw you play a pure cute leader like vampy luna or arisa
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>>164777839
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>>164777887
you impregnate the loli vampire
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>>164777887
:thinking:
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>>164777887
Impregnate
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>>164777887
>>164777949
>>164777985
>>164777994
Fuck me that's the wrong thing. Here's the test.
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why is shadowcraft so braindead?
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>storm running odin now
what the fuck? is khawy that big of a deal?
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Which is better? Both were on Gameai
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>>164777960
Its a hard deck, retards cant Pilot it, only for the HIGH IQ
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>>164778049
evolve yurius and hit face
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>>164778049

The best possible play is to remove Mastema from your deck.
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>>164778049
Impregnate the loli vampire
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If you could make one (1) Nexus deck, what would it be?
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I want to nibble on Luna's ears while hugging her from behind!
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>>164777960
Gamepress confirmed for too dumb to play roach
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>>164778126
Left.

Right has too many memecards like plutospell, bellringer, balor, no necro etc
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>>164778123
Khawy fucks basically every face deck
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>>164778110
you got fucking outplayed my friend
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Has Nep replaced shadow control or is there merit to no-nep. I have one animated Nep and was wondering if I invest in more Nep or cash out the 2500 vials.
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>when you lilly the enemy skellington of duels every time he plays it
im lovin' it
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>Make deck
>until turn 4 even with a full mulligan draw 4 and 5 drops
Fuck my life
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Why is unranked nothing but Dragon memes?
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was this game always so cancer?

If you play Sword or Faith then fucking end your own life.
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easiest rank of my life
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So, is 'braindead' just basically what people call their least favorite decks regardless of the actual skill it takes to play that deck?
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>Que Earthrite for dailies
>Facing Nep after Nep
>Hard mulligan for Calamitous
>mfw everyone's running unoptimized Nep lists and never even pull Mordecai and keep pulling Cerb and Urd
>Calamitous not even needed
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>>164777746
Sauce on pic
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>>164778357
outplay this
*whips out dick*
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>meme decking dragon shitter tries to face race me
>gives up when i drop banner and switches to board control and ramp :^)
>loses
fucking kek good one my dude
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>>164778273
Avatarfagging is against the rules.
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>>164778229

Shadow+Haven Atomy deck with Levi splashed into it
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>>164778402
i wish the game gave you your opponent's decklist after a game with them. do want to netdeck some dudes i lose to.
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>>164778373
Is not meme when work
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>>164778396
Yes
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If i get tired of having only 1 deck what i could turn to vials here?
There are more but these are the not starred gold/lego
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>>164778172
>>164778190
wrong

>>164778220
correct. You evol the Vampire bat and use it to fuck Mini Soul Devil.
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>>164778420
Whats with the occasional neutral decks in ranked anyway? I have seen them twice by now in A3
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>tfw too smart to play OTK Roach
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Here's a bold prediction.

The next expansion, Forest will be overpowered, because of a deck that revolves around le overstatted elf soccer mom of bounce and le balanced storm bug of 20 to 0 from hand, for the 4th time.
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>>164778552
>too
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Reposting this just this once.
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>>164778273
>>164778145

It's really not even that hard. Roach math is just basic addition. Even a gradeschooler could do it.

I guess it takes a little thought to hold the board until you can make a combo but it's pretty simple, bounce your cards with soccermoms. Evolve Feenas and EPM's too build combo cards.

If you don't get the combo try to outvalue them by bouncing tias repeatedly to exhaust their deck.

Sometimes you'll be screwed by draws but this is true of ANY deck.
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>>164778375
you got t2ed
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Monika and ninja art are really, really strong. Why doesn't anyone use them?
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>>164778540
>trading as aggro blood
you're wrong, dumb loli
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>>164778554
Nigga Just Play Wards How Is Roach OTK Even Real Like Just Protect Your Face Hahahaha
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Winning with Luna!
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>>164778662

Just play around Themis
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>>164778586
>tfw too smart to fuck up my grammar
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>>164778641

>Monkia

People think you have to evo her, and they'd rather save for other plays.

>Ninja Art

This one I have no clue on, it's a good out and it lets you fish for lethal lategame.
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>>164778676
Losing streaks with Luna!
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>>164778641
Because i can't afford any Sword deck
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>>164778697
i play around themis by having so much burn i don't need minions to hit their face. if only i could play around elana.
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>>164778590
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>>164778534
Golem,Titania,First Curse,One Zinitra.

There are more but you should
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>>164778339
except roach
you just dance of death it and combo the turn later
he doesn't heal either since you don't have anything on the board
but shadow has other things to fuck over gobu roach like death's breath
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>>164778641
Netdeck hasn't told them to yet. I've run the art of ninja in my decks since it came out.
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Is there any news on new leaders yet?
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What if leader characters could evolve?
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>>164778662
Yes, because that worked oh so well in every meta up to date.
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>>164778641
I'm running 2x Monika and Ninja Arts in my CSword
I might toss out Ruthless Assasins since they're underperforming a bit, but god damnit I when I don't draw them I'm fucked.
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>>164778854
They'd have 40 HP instead of 20.
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>>164778854
they can. she summons a bat.
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>>164778662

What is Dance of Death? What is Tia?
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>>164778641
Monika is fantastic, but she pollutes the 5 pp and Commander pool for Sword even further, so I can see why some people don't run her.
Art of the Ninja there's not really any excuse not to use.
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>>164778126
the left is a more standard list with liches and shit to let you beat down, the right is a more grinder variant that heavily relies on mordecai since more of its early game is removal i.e. strictly survival-oriented with no ability to push
regardless of what general chassis you choose i would go for the 3 mord 2 nep split as opposed to 2/3, it's cheaper vialswise and pre-emptively makes you more resilient against odin once you start running into nep counters.
ofc not having the third nep will hurt in some matchups when you would want to have drawn mordecai + effects instead of just mordecai, but it's an obstacle that master players can overcome and there's no reason you shouldn't be able to do the same
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>>164777589
Here http://imgur.com/a/pPVNs but you owe me and you should respond this post with a JO dragin win
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>>164778954

Also, there is Feena to compete for the 5 pp slot as well.

I get as many Monikas as I can in T2 and she literally wins me games but it can be hard to slot her in constructed.
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>its a dumb daria shitter loses at their own game episode
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>>164778953
>Gobroach
>Tia
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>tfw Control vs Control matchups are actually interesting in Shadowverse
This is way better than hearthstone because Control decks aren't just "lol let's put all the removal and Reno in the deck and take them to fatigue".
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so is forte an otherkin dragon like rowan or why does she have horns?
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>>164778965
I am almost at 3.5k vials, is it probably a good idea to make a second nep for the right deck?

Of course, I still need to make the Mordecais and all but still
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>Forest player goes face with Roach even though it can't kill me and I have lethal on the board
Smelly dumb elf scum.
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>>164779078
haha yeah fuck hearthstone!
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>Play Ramp dragon versus Elana haven
>Go up to turn 15-16
>Finally my opponent runs out of cards and I win
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>tfw you silverbolt face
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>>164779078
Well, the good thing is Reno is going to be removed from standard soon unless they add him to the classic set.
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>>164778854
Forest:-
Combo requires only 1 other card

Rune:-
Double spellboost

Dragon:-
Double ramp

Shadow:-
Double Shadow generation

Haven:-
Instant amulet activation

Sword:-
Boring mechanic that can't be doubled

Blood:-
Take double damage from all sources for faster vengeance activation ;)))
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>>164779074

The Tia version is superior to the other versions of Gobu Roach. I bet you are one of those guys who runs Cynthia.
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>>164779178
I really wonder who the heck runs Elana Haven when Aggro Blood is also super common and tends to murder them

I mean, I suppose it helps against Tempo Rune though
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>>164779048
Whats AIDS like?
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>>164778591
roach math gets confusing when you need to take into account mana, board space and which of the card intervals are actually damage.

A lot of roach math is psychological, too. You're under a bit of pressure to think it over as fast as possible, and you're probably a little tilted with "wooooooow his draws were SO PERFECT and mine were SO SHIT"

It's not that bad, but it's still harder than most other (and arguably all other) decks.
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>>164779226
>Take double damage from all sources for faster vengeance activation
you're hired my friend
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>shadowBABIES will never have this
feels good to play the superior gaem
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>>164778049
evo vampy and trade with 1 hp left
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>>164764350
I unironically love these.
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>>164779264
People are running Haven to try to counter the Nep players I think.
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>Elana
>Havencraft Legendary
>6 pp 4/6
>If your deck has no duplicates, fully heal your leader.
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56193

Need help for 20 private matches
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>>164779263
>running either of those
>not just using pixie mischief to bound their ward back to hand while doing your combo
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>HS
>30 HP
>sucesfull agro end in 5 turns
>SV
>20 HP
>sucesfull agro end in 6 turns
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>>164779363
#NotAllMinions
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>>164779226
Haven t0
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>>164779078
control decks still kill you on turn 8/9.
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need a concede please
37808
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>>164779178
Literally what happened to me in my A0 series.
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>>164779130
Forte is a half-demon that just really likes dragons
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Did I just get memed on?
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>>164778591
>>164779324

Besides the math it's tough sometimes to not throw down Nature's guidance or a 0 pp gobu when you need it now. There are also so many variants of roach otk since there's so many cards you can tech in and out. It's truly a thinking man's deck
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so, dragon and shadowcraft are almost essentially havencraft now right
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>>164779453

It's because our 1-drops don't have massive value.
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>>164779423
that's great, but you run both
the point of running ancient elf, wotf and tia in roach decks is so you don't get steam rolled before you get close to having roach combos, especially in an aggro heavy meta
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thoughts on righteous devil?
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>It's a "Shadow nails every corpse rng but still loses the game" episode
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>>164779453
>HS
>Successful deck has a shit ton of RNG
>SV
>Deck with a lot of RNG is T2 at best
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>>164779048
put down levi, evolve, play double rune, put down daria, play 3 storm shitters trading with your 1/1 shits
your turn, kid....
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>>164779453
>hearthstone
>play 4/3 stats of pirate turn 1
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>>164779132
if you're strapped for vials just make the deck on the left with -1 nephthys and +1 mordecai
(soul hunt + pact with the nethergod + dance of death + balor) isn't objectively worse than (attendant of night + hell's unleasher + urd + necroassassin) as far as midgame cards go, but it is objectively more expensive by 2k vials
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>>164779226
>Sword:-
>Boring mechanic that can't be doubled
Your leader now counts as a commander and all officers gain +2/+0
Easy enough
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>>164778641
Because I'm really bad at this game and can't figure out what kinds of size distributions to use with 5+ size cards to have a deck that doesn't brick half the time. As a result she's competing for the 5 size 5 card slots in my deck against Albert, Aurelia, and Avant Blader, and she's not as good as any of those cards in my opinion.\
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>>164777746
I just want Vania to grope Isabelle's giant tits, is that too much to ask?
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>>164779634

The stats distribution is insane.

To the point where it's acceptable to drop him without proccing vengeance.
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>>164779553
really likes, or REALLY likes?
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>>164779367
no
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>>164779453
Everything in HS is pretty much +1/+1 in stats for the same cost.
There are no 2 mana 3/2's or 4 mana 4/5's
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fucking kill yourself you degenerate
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>>164779634
Always save an evolve point when fighting aggro.
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>>164779484
Clarke can spellboost every follower in hand 4 times. turn 4 and 5 boards for Rune would make 3 Arias look like a joke.
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>>164779824
Really, really likes
See >>164779031
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Reminder that elves are for arithmetic
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>>164779824
aaron rodgers-tier
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>>164779720
Avant blader is not that good in my opinion, it's too often useless or grabs cards you don't really want to play at that point of the game.
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>>164779130
She's a dragoon, not a dragon.
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>Playing Isabella
Women cannot be mages. Erasmus is superior.
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>>164779720
>Avant Blader
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>Have a sure lethal against a mordecai and balor where other LUna has 9 HP left
>Khaway
Fuck this card.
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i've jakced off to reno twice today already send help
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>made it to masters trials
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>>164779720
Don't play avant blader in midrange
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>>164779407
Thanks whoever you are!
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>>164779453
>pokemon
>1~∞ HP
>successful aggro end turn 1
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>>164779994
>literally copypaste (classic) Merlin, Dumbledore and any other old mage shitter
If he wasn't so generic I'd even buy him.
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>>164779994
Class name is Witch.
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>>164780069
gj anon
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>>164779847
>browsing plebbit
whew ! unga bungas are truly plebians.
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>>164779558

Face dragon is a meme?
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>>164779178
>Agaisnt seraph deck
>They put the amulet down
>Bahamut it
>it summons the next phase
>didnt knew this happened
>mfw
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>>164779929
uhhhhhhhhnnnnfffff
just want to rip off her swimsuit and smell them
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>>164779832
Funny thing, 3/2s and 4/5s are not good enough, you don't see Yeti anywhere anymore.
Also their version of Albert is 8 mana and isn't run anymore
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>>164779994
agreed
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wtf do i do with 3 alexanders?
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>>164780069
congratulation!!!
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>>164777960
>Gamepress
>Able to roach
Nice joke, next you'll say gorillas have a colony on Europa
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>>164780021
Hey man, she's not some kind of god but Sword has very few card draw options, and she's the best of them.
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>>164780069
Is it possible to drop after you reach trials?
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Reminder that this is why you have Odin.
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>>164780132
>I can't read cards
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>>164780180
Control Sword
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>Play lower ranks
>Play a cannot be attacked follower
>Waiting for a response
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>>164779623
tia in a OTK roach deck is usually detrimental in my experience
you use your combo pieces in activating tia and it doesn't really even stall for that much.
I really only run WotF as a two of because of the shadow and CBlood players I faced lately, otherwise I would just run 2 or 3 DoDs
I just load my deck up with a bunch of 1 and 3 drops like angelic snipes, goblins and selwyn's command to counter agro
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>>164779787
titcow girls are the best
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>>164778590
H E A R
E
A
R
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>>164780180
attack 34 times
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>>164780069
Well, it was a long grind, but congrats anon, now you have earned the dubious right to tell off noobs. Nobody's going to argue with a Masters player unless they are a bigger Masters player
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>>164780069

Time to tryhard with the sleeper T0 deck so you can pass those trials.
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>>164778273
Tell me how those tits are not falling out right the fuck now
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>>164780180
Craft three alwida's
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>>164779883
>turn 1 2/1
>turn 2 two 2/1 and a 4/4

Plus they'd have things like Death Sentence or Tribunal just killing two followers immediately
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I feel like forte fall off in RoB with all these removals and shit
may be seabrand will be better?
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>>164780190
>next you'll say gorillas have a colony on Europa

soon
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New player. Keep rerolling but I don't know what I'm looking for exactly. People have suggested a certain number of legends but then said I need a variety of them. Please assist.
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>>164780250
Kill yourself
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>>164780180
Liquefy for Alberts, they replaced him with a 5 mana silver rarity card.
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>>164780284
elf magic.
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>>164778123
Seraph/kahwy/morde/baha/etc are prevalent enough that Odin's a solid play in pretty much anything but aggro.

>>164778229
Give it nexus only neutral cards that synergize with neutral or give it a gimmick where it can play cards from 2 decks but only for 1-5 from one and 6-9 from another. Neutral counts as one.
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>>164780286
captcha ate my quote, >>164779929
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>>164779847
>he pronounce anga banga
Americans are retards
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>>164778590
Love you forever, anon-kun.
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>>164779828
but why
even if he anglosaxon beverages you you still got off mostly good face damage, still have board presence, and your vampy isn't sitting there as fodder for an evo KO
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>>164780147
if al'akir could be evolved to take off half the opponent's health i guarantee you he'd be a staple in every green nigger deck until the end of time
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>>164780237
Wait a second, is that a guy or a girl
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>>164780414
Please do not judge us based on this individual
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>>164780493
Yes
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>>164780352
Get a lot of legos for a class that you like or get a lot of good legos and golds.

Show your legos and golds and we judge it
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>>164780237
cute vampy, dude
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>>164780180
Charge 42 times.
Control Sword uses two of them, sometimes.
>me pre RoB
>What the fuck is this cyclone blade trash? It doesn't even let me keep my board, goes against almost every Sword synergical strategy, why would I use this crap over Alex?
>me after RoB
>holy fuck Alex is too fucking slow, I will have to swap him for that fucking trash card

It hurts.
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>mfw winning nep mirrors
dont put random shit like attendants and ghost riders next time senpai
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>>164780475
Rockbiter :^)
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>>164780343
>forte falling
if the enemy has no wards is literally free 8 damage.
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So is nep worth spending 10.5k vials on? I have everything else for the deck minus maybe 1 mord. But is she worth crafting? I don't have any legos for forest so I'd be spending over 20k on it which I don't have
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Why do 1 drops suck in this game?
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>>164780365
They fill different roles
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>>164780475
>turn 8 in HS as a shaman

nigger have you even played that game
>>
DANCE OF DEATH IS SO STUPID
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>>164780286

> tfw miss lethal with the exact same hand (0 cost gob 2x cost fairies 1 nature's 3 roaches) because I fucked up my board space

I hadn't punched my deck ever since I stopped playing Take Two.
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>aggro bat plays 2 vampiric fortresses and fills his field up to 5/5 with bats for the loss
Nigga that's not how it works.
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>>164780352
Apparently I've been rolling garbage then and told to reroll even when I had 7 legends. I think about the only thing I can build off the bat is aggro blood, but that seems to be frowned upon around here.
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>>164780605
They don't?
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>>164780552
Isn't attendant good for the free Lich? Educate me, Luna, please.
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>>164780645
it's the most humiliating way to lose a match. that and demonic storm
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>>164780501
OK
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>>164780605
Cuz they die to almost all 2 drops for free and have no effects while in HS they can trade up and have effects
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>>164780552
I wish I was that plushie so I could rub my face all over her titties all day every day
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>Copy the aggro shadow deck from gamepress
>Can't help but wonder how people think this is good when you could put other shit in
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>>164779178
Wish every match against haven didn't turn into a game of "Do I have enough Odins in hand to answer their Seraphs", other than that ramp dragon is fun.
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>>164778375
How are you so new that you don't see that everything but control blood is cancer?

>>164778396
Yes.

>>164778420
Sword literally doesn't have ramp. At all. Get out you underaged memespouting redditard.
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How is Ramp dragon supposed to beat Daria?
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>>164780547
>Cyclone Blade
>Trash
Literally one of the only cards allowing Sword to not be tier 4
>>
60730

please concede
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>>164780180
I pulled 4 of him and never used him once outside of arena. I melted two already, I may nuke the other two as I suspect he only shows up in netdeck lists because nobody actually played the deck and just theorycrafted something.
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>>164780552
>attendants
>random

It's better than Shit's Unleasher at the very least.
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>>164780547
I am amused that Hamsa is slotted into Sword exactly for this purpose really. And people thought that was just a funny 2 drop

>>164780601
You should give it a week at least as its currently popular because people want to try it

As for whether or not its actually good? Well, thats a different matter altogether, though people seem to complain about it alot
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>>164780671
So where's Patches at then?
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>>164780586
its 5 or 7
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>>164780687
>luna will never "educate" you roughly
why even live
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>>164780286
>placing down 2 roaches then using nature's guidance
how does it feel to be a shitter
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Big Mummy.
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>>164780734
Why? Luna is flat as a board.
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>>164780613
Yeah, one comes out early enough to make a difference, the other will keep getting worse and worse as they keep forcing the games to be shorter and shorter.
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>>164780547
>Hamclone blade
>Bad
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>>164780754
The concept was trash, the card ins't, somehow. I will take it, but not before spilling all my salt on the internet.
>>164780813
I'm still not sold on Hamsa, I just packed my own Bahamuts instead.
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>never see dirt rune on ladder
>try out seraph for a bit
>suddenly two dirt rune in a row with 3 petrification AND at least one odin

nice rigged matchmaking
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>>164780365
>silver rarity
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>>164778534
You can do budgets of everything so here's a novel idea, don't fucking liquify your shit. You'll fill up then start raking in 600+ dust a pack to do whatever the fuck you want

>>164778542
People memeing in a futile effort to try and defib the dead meta so there's actual fun in sv
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>>164780687
>>164780803

it fucks up non-rng nep pulls
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>>164779847
>>164780414
>gbf_player
AHAHAHAHA
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>>164780751
Hope they Mulligan into a hand full of Dorothys, or they Dorothy into a hand full of non-boosting spells.
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>>164780916
Bahamuts are slow though and sometimes you need a board clear faster than turn 10
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>>164778954
>>164779045
There are just too many good 5pp card for sword
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>>164780547
>hating on your friend
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Is it possoble to climb A with FaceDragon?
No ram, no wanking with bros shit, no memes
Forte going Face everyday
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>>164780552
Pretty sure Ghost Rider is there to keep you from getting your dick kicked in by shit like Albert and Imp Lancer.
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>>164778770
You start with like 25/40 cards to a basic banner/aggro sword deck. Much of the rest are bronzes and silvers you can craft what you didn't get. It's very flexible to work with whatever you drew too to only get better.
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>>164780862
Have a list? I haven't seen any new shadow aggro lists I liked yet.
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>>164780751
Nuke them into oblivion, aka pray they don't chicken scratch you to death with angel pings and missiles. God, fuck that deck and its absurd amounts of reach, even after you somehow manage to stabilize you're always two steps away from death.
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>>164781113
The problem is that it occupies the 6 slot, making nep a lot worse.
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>>164781108
you can climb to A with anything
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>>164780875
Oppai Luna is canon
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Before creation there was destruction

RETURN TO THE ABYSS
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87207
help this little vampy to do her quest
just condede
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>>164780862
huge mummified dick
>>
84913
20/20
give it to me senpai
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>>164780964
How?
7 for Kamura
2 for courpse
8 for Morde
3 for attendant

Even if you have Hell's Unleasher instead he still conflicts with Urd and Thighssassasin. I run them both anyway.
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>>164781287
>Before creation there was destruction
That's not how it works.
Is there ANY more retarded card than this?
>>
>playing undubbed story
>find a line in story mode that is for some reason not undub

Erika's story part 5.The Cost, before the battle the line about Balthazar is still dubbed. Does anyone else have it like that?
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Why is unranked full of Dragon shitters?
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three odins turn 8,9 and 10 was really really mean, you bully!
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>>164781287

Doesn't he say Ooze?

As in the primordial ooze.
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>>164781265
I don't want to have a longer grind for nothing
Need to know if it can work as backup to bats
>>
Seriously though, is this card like, ever really good in midrange?

90% of the time it hits maybe one turn 5 commander.
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>>164781362
Dude he is a dragon
I'm sure he has a brain the size of a fucking walnut, but he's trying his best
Don't hate
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>>164781440
you don't need a backup to bats to get to A but face dragon is perfectly adequate to reach AA and beyond
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>>164781034
Yeah, I just find it rare to not have ANYTHING on board to use with Cyclone at turn 7, I can see why people do it, but I just think that Unica is more consistent than the duck.
Maybe I will give a go at him later, I'm not climbing this month anyway, might as well try out some quality memes.
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>>164781440
Well bats is probably the best deck to climb with just because of how fast it is, so I doubt you'd need a backup unless you really dislike playing it
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>>164781443
This was good for powering up Otohime Guards, but since Otohime isn't played anymore its not really that great. It's good to power up Floral Girl and her followers too tho
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>>164780352
>>164780656
TOP LEGENDARIES: Merlin, Daria, Ancient Elf, Nephthys, Seraph. These can all carry a deck.

BORDERLINE LEGENDARIES: Queen Vampire, Aurelia, Crystalia Tia, Lucifer, Albert, Eidolon of Madness, Forte, Cerberus. These are either cards that can carry a deck with the caveat that the deck isn't particularly top tier, or cards that supplement a strong and affordable deck but are not strictly necessary to its success.

Unless I missed something, every legendary outside this list is either useless or only useful for decks you won't be able to afford for a long time.
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>>164781357
see you run 4 drops anyway,
so you have a chance to pull from 5 places
its better nep brings urd or assassin than she skips 7 or 8
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>>164781419
He does, because "Genesis" dragon and all.
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>>164780074
Forgive a retard for asking but uh, do you not need card draw in midrange? Every deck I've ever had success with in sword has had 3 of every card draw option sword has except Stratagem and Thief because card draw seemed absolutely necessary to Sword.
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>>164781443
it used to be the core of midrange but now midrange is dead because cygames gave everyone mass removal
wait for the next expansion to give neutral a liza-like spell
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>>164781362
>chaotic environment of primordial earth allowed complex hydrocarbons to form
>early universe is too volatile for even atoms to form, then calmed down and allowed non-elementary particles to exist
i'm pretty sure it is how it works
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>>164781443
It used to be good but then all the board clears came and made him rather shitty. Turn 6 otohime to sage was one of the best plays ever as they normally couldn't clear the guards.
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>>164781248
Its a trade off that may be worth making. Deck building isn't as cut and dry as you seem to think it is and sometimes concessions must be made to make certain matchups more favorable.

>>164781385
Dragon and Shadow are the Timmy classes.
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>>164781556
where does mordecai senpai go
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>>164781534
It's more a matter of being tired of mirrors annd playing only one deck in general
OTK Roach isn't comfy and the other option is make use of 3x Forte without having to craft anything
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>>164781175
This is what I'm running in A1.

But to be honest I'm having a super hard time. Maybe I'm just shit but I can't make any rank progress.
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>>164781556
>Aurelia, Tia, Albert, Forte, Cerberus
>same tier as Lucifer
>Bahamut not even mentioned
>nor Gabriel
holy fucking turbo shitter.
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>>164781658
Timmy classes?
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>>164781568

Midrange isn't about drawing cards entirely.

It's about not losing them as well. If all of your cards can net positive trades to the point where your opponent can't outplus them, you're fine without draw power then.
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>>164781680
onto a different list
because he's gold
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>>164781556
you missed bahamut, and odin as top legendaries
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>>164781357
>I run them both anyway.
>Play Nep
>she pulls Urd, Thighassassin, Cerberus and Spartoi Sergeant
S-Shadows, just what I need!
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>if I just ignore the reaper, I'm sure he'll go away!

this guy creates such fantastic dilemmas; he had to choose between the 2/2 shadow reaper or a 5/2 urd

he chose poorly
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>>164781805
oh right, my bad
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>>164781556
>Playing Shadow decks without Cerberus
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>>164781563
That's a good point actually.
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>>164781935
no place for the puppers in nepper decks
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>>164781935
And yet thats exactly what is happening when you play a Nepnep Shadow deck
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>>164781765
satan is strictly better than bahamut
gabriel's mostly a brick
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Left or Right?
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>>164781935
Cerb doesn't bode well with Nep
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Why does anyone use demonic storm in aggro?

If you're at the point where you need it, you've 99% already lost.
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>>164781894
Maybe he was just hoping he'd find 1 of his 3 bounces
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>>164781935
It's 2017 get with the times grandpa.
>>
give me the classic concede bros
80547
>>
WHAT'S WITH EV ERYONE GETTING AMAZING HANDS UNLIKE ME
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>Bahamut destroys amulets but doesn't get blocked by amulets

Simply epic my dudes.
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>>164782051
t. D rank
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>tfw only one salamander so forced to use follower's that do similar effects
One day I'll be a true mage.
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>>164782051
I'm glad Satan clears the board the moment he's played.
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>>164782058
right
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>>164779453
>D-rank ramp dragon
>Games are constantly doing out to 14-22+ turns
Checkmate

>>164779594
Everybody's trying to new hotness or playing actual haven to get free wins. The meta's the same but now there's even more viable T2 decks.

>>164780352
Show your legos and golds. People will tell you if you got good shit to play a knockoff of a strong deck or not. Or you could just read the fucking pastebin and use your sense.
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>>164782069
Mad about you got your board cleared right in time for that Imp?
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>>164782090
I'll wait it out though
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>>164781752
you really do not need necroassassins in aggro shadow anon

maybe remove them for another voices and 1 more playful necro or something
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>>164782051

Bahamut impacts the board in a major way.

That's why people like him over Satan. Satan is still the ultimate of the stickiest wincon, though.
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>>164782073

at that point the reaper had created too much disruption; he gave me the space to get Breath down, which is usually when Daria grinds to a stop vs. shadow
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>>164782058
Right will always see play. Odin's only really useful to shut down Mordecais which is ironic, since they're paired.
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>>164782051
Holy shit you're new.
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>>164780745
>Sword literally doesn't have ramp
is this b8? was clearly talking about the dragon cuck, hence him having 8 points despite going second. nice reading comprehension you fucking retard.
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>>164780579
if al'akir rockbiter still costed 9 mana, and dealt 16 damage instead of 12, yeah i think that would push al'akir back into viability

>>164780639
honestly, no, I haven't played much MSoG meta since I quit for shadowverse. But I can read the data sites just fine. Midrange shaman, which sees more play in Legend than renolock and almost as much play as pirate warrior, already runs al'akir. If he was buffed to deal proportionally as much damage as Albert does, I guarantee you midrange shaman would start to eat up some of aggro shaman's market share.
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>>164782193
thanks bud
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>>164780601
It's good but you need a solid nep list or you're just dicking yourself

>>164780645
Neutral was a mistake
>>
"Just play wards against roach EZ PZ"
>Pixie mischief
>slows down the roach OTK to roach 18 damage
>play more wards
>Dance of death

kek
>>
>>164780645
DoD was a mistake that needs deleting
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>>164782260

>Daria
>stopping ever

Their reach is full-on retarded, I get your point though, taking damage from followers stops, but still.
>>
>>164781556
missing
tsubaki, albert, bloody mary, imperial dragoon, satan, and white awoo
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>>164782058
>cerberus
>olivia
easiest right in your entire life
>>
>>164781752
Thanks. I don't know if you need the Sextons in there, there are barely any last word effects in there.
>>
>Enemy shadow
>night of attendant
>lurching corpse
>spartoi sargant

>me
>pluto
>execution
>urd
>soul converstion
>>
57829
Please concede for quest.
>>
Nep is so good.
Too good.
I need to offer my semen to her now and my blood to Luna.
>>
>>164782392
brainlets, when will they learn?
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>>164781620
You're expecting intelligence on a cardgame general? Please
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This card is pretty fucking great. Helps dealing with bats and fairies but is still able to chew through late game big guys.
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> Haven hag plays Enstatued Seraph.
> MAKE HASTE SLEIPNIR
> Plays another one the next turn.
> On my turn THE BATTLEFIELD'S OURS

Odin is the best card.
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>>164782058
Left is all like
>dont banish me bro
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>>164782141
That's genius actually.
Her effect is recurring and she can still go face on top of it.
She's an excellent choice for JO.
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>>164782051
>gabriel's mostly a brick
t. D rank shitter
>>
Hate that I missed out on Urd sleeves but at least I have Khawy now ;-;
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>Elves are shit they said
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>>164782449
Thank you!
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I'm tired of rerolling. How long does it take to grind a usable deck in this game?
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>>164782461
Nep isn't what wins you games, thats the most overstated 7 drop in the game
Khawy should be an 8 drop
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>>164782480
It's amazing. I just wish I had them animated.
>>
>>164778590
Elf literally removed to hell.
>>
Should I blow all my vials on Daria, Nep, or roach otk?

What's more fun?
>>
>>164782583
>trusting what /svg/ says
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>>164782480
>hey guys check this card, it helps against bats

Delete this.
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>>164782583
Remove elf
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>>164782583
elf is the thinkin' man craft
>>
>>164782583

No, Shadow is shit. Elves are faggots. And broke as shit.
>>
>>164782583
No one said it was shit, syadoreco showed that Elf actually had a 50%+ winrate in spite of being the least played craft in general

Even now you see people raging about OTK Roach Elf
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>>164782590
Not very long, but only two of thos cards are good(Moon/Tia). I guess storm haven would be the best deck for you to play.
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>>164782461
sucks that apparently the meta has gone back to dshift, pure seraph and aggro bats.
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>>164782480
It's basically double Dance of Death lategame
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>>164782590
like a month or something

at least reroll until you get 6+ legos for the dust
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>playing nepnep vs ramp dragon with 2 khawy in hand
>nep and morde on board
>he plays bahamut
>khawy soul conversion
>next turn he plays genesis
>i top deck the second soul conversion

"There's no-one else I'd rather lose too!"

would have got a picture of the log but he surrendered too quick
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>>164781784
Timmy - Cares less about raw efficiency and more about big flashy cards. Huge numbers and crazy effects are key here.

Johnny - Innovator, likes building and playing for weird interactions and combos and is generally more creative.

Spike - Primarily plays with a competitive focus and seeks to win against other like-minded players.
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>>164782590
>mfw first roll gave me two ancient elves, a Tia, three roaches and one Liza
>>
>>164782434
Sextons are mostly to help get Shadows against Haven and for Reaper+Ghost combos.
Also I just needed 2 costs in general.
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>>164782653
Nep is meme and not the card making the deck good
Roach OTK is for expert Forest players
Daria is the reliable brain dead auto pilot mode deck stapple
>>
>>164781367
>keep playing Erika's story and find more broken undubbed lines at 7. Victor's Trail

I assume no one cares enough since this is story mode but I figured to point them out atleast.
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>>164779612
Except this cancerous card.
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Yo
Be real with me
Should I dump 20k vials on OTK Roach or on Seraph Haven?
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>>164782583
>no winstreak
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>tfw nep doesn't summon anything because deck is already empty of followers
>>
>no way to check what is a commander and what is a officer while building decks

am I missing something really obvious here or is it supposed to be this shitty
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DAILY MISSION IS PLAY 1 PRIVATE MATCH PLEASE HALP I HAVE NO FRIENDS FUCK NIGGERS MY MISSION TIMERS R GONNA GET FUCKED UP

MATCH ID: 86334
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>>164782598
its pretty infuriating that from turn 6 on you basically cant touch a shadows face, ever.
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>>164782798
How shitty do you have to to use a month to get a decent deck? Should take like, max a week.
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>>164782475
I thought the same until I noticed there are roach OTK players in the thread
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>>164782903
Ancient elves are used for every forest deck
Seraphs are used for seraph decks
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People are just now complaining about Levi and Roach when they along with Aria were the best cards in the game pre-RoB.
Thankfully no one plays Aria in Seraph anymore.
Thank god I got tired of 6/5 on turn 3.

However cygames aren't run by chinese jews like Riot games and won't nerf them ever.
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>>164782404

Yeah, I sorta misspoke there

I meant to say "He already used a piercing rune and an evo point on daria, meaning that he only had about 7 points of damage (1 Crimson + 2 Piercing) that could circumvent Khawy and Breath, so I was feeling pretty safe"

I'm generally pretty confident in that matchup if I can get my DB down with 10+ life left, otherwise I have to pray that they brick and don't draw any of their direct damage spells
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>>164782920
You are just too retarded. Kill yourself.
>royal
Explains it.
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>>164782931
I was mostly talking about expensive decks. He could probably get an aggro bats going in a day of playing, and storm his way to A0 in less than a week.
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I wish I was Nep's sex slave
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>>164782920
you're blind
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>>164782835
That is not the fucking image I posted I hate when this shit happens.
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>>164781765
the point is that Lucifer can be thrown into Elana haven very simply, and now a new player is getting immediate value from that legendary in a strong and affordable deck. Compared to Albert, what's someone going to do with Albert? Either sit on his ass while he waits to pull the other 7 legendaries that midrange sword wants, or play face sword which is a tier 3 deck. Forte and Aurelia have the same problem.

>>164781849
Odin isn't going to carry a deck the same way other legendaries are. If you pull 2 odin as a new player, that doesn't prepare you to play any specific deck, it doesn't even necessarily put you in a good position to prey on seraph haven without a deck that supports your ability to go toe-to-toe with it, which needs you to have bahamut and probably some class legendaries. Very expensive prospect for a new player, very easy to pigeonhole them into either playing their one control deck or aggro bats and nothing else. Same thing with Bahamut, it works well enough for what it is but with Odin backup, haven and shadow just cuck it to pieces. Unless I'm misunderstanding its role in dragon decks.
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>>164782480
I'm constantly thinking about running it in every build I make, but I always end up choosing other cards over it. I really need to give it a serious try one of these days, being active against DShift or whatever is pretty great.
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>>164782925
You have to beat them by turn6 or Khawy kills you on turn7 as Aggro
Or you play Seraph and fuck them with banish and removal until Glory
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>>164782901
>'Random'
>Always targets the 1 defence card every time
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>>164782903
There has never been a Forest deck that didn't run 3x Ancient Elf and 3x Roach, and Forest has never been bad, EVER.
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>>164782835
Oh that

I think I get that feeling from new players, they tend to get drawn to Dragoncraft. I presume this is because of all the big numbers and also because Dragons are 'liek super kool and badass'
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>>164782921
HELL YA THANKS FOR THE GAME ANON
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I'VE HAD SHITTY OPENING HANDS IN 5 FUCKING GAMES WHILE THIS RETARDED SWROD SHITTER GETS 2 DOD'S AND EXECUTION BY TURN 7

FUCK O0GJR-GJOSF[GREG
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>>164782583
>expansion reduced the number of viable forest decks
sure tempo is still doing great but other than that?
wolfbot?
that's it
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>>164782835
Wouldn't Shadow be the Johnny craft? They had a new weird tech every week during DE.
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>>164783181
Are u okay?
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how do i get out of D0
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>>164783218
>tempo

nah nigger, combo roach.
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>tfw aggro decks are killing me by turn 7 before I drop seraph
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>>164783054
>>164783064
I meant without clicking on each card first, I already know it says in the tooltip
Searching for commander only shows cards with commander in the name or that have effects with them and there is no way to filter only commanders
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>>164780286
nature's guidance your fairies FUCK
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Is there a good site with decklists so I can experiment with actual good decks that I have the cards to make?

No, not gamepress.
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>>164783095
Pure Elana Haven is just as shit as face Sword though.
Face dragon requires three (3) golds and three (3) Fortes, it's a pretty cheap deck in general. What you're doing is telling someone new that some VERY GOOD CARDS can be liquified, leading them to do stupid stuff because you somehow think that Aurelia, Forte, Cerberus etc are as valuable as fucking Lucifer.
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>>164783313
than combo roach whatever with the highest winrate
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so this is.. the power of magic
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>>164783218
Tempo forest is still good.
Just why would you play tempo and go for the turn 8-9 kill when you can play roach and kill some fucker from 20 hp at turn 6
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>>164783314
Thats normal
Nep is also filtering slow Aggro so be prepared for turn5 game overs
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>>164782920
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>>164783218
>everyone and their moms posting about roach OTK
>durrhur wolfbot
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>>164783060
Go to bed Khawy
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>>164783389
>uses queen sleeve and then goes aggro

gross

I want to use the QV sleeve but I don't want to signal that I'm control.
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>>164783142
Depends on the person. There's overlap here and there. You can like doing big dumb shit while still wanting to win.
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post roach dick plz.
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Is there still no flame & glass deck
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>opened neptuina and nephtys in the same pack
nice
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>>164783389
MAHOU SUGOI
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>>164783314
Your deck requires extremely specific tech to counter so most decks can only beat you by doing exactly that, fuck off
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>>164782480

I've been playing around with it as well, and that enhance is super nice at dealing with certain threats like Saber, etc.

I consider it a replacement/sub for Howl in slower decks that don't need the combo as much and want as much removal as possible.

It's all the utility of Playful Necro without the stunted evo stats and evo requirement
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>>164783542
Too much removal for that too work, except dshift combo. But that one is still easier to do with the 7/7 thingy.
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What's the best precon deck to buy?
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>>164783328
You can usually tell just by looking at the card. Commanders look like they're in charge.
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>>164783625
elf, shadow, swordcraft in that order if you had absolutely 0 cards
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>>164778123
Shit im running petrify in Daria, rune is so easy to tech for.
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>>164783662
do you feel in charge ?
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This game is a fucking joke now. RoB was a mistake. Not only is our general shit because of /hsg/ shitters, but because now it's even more unbalanced.
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>>164783310
just win like 1 out of 10 games?
jokes aside, post deck so someone can help you
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>>164782920
Back to hearthstone retard.
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>>164783497
>Spend all your unlife protecting your waifu
>She just ignores you all the time
>One day she finally calls for your help
>Come rushing as fast as possible
>She just immediately kills you for the last word effect
Being Khawy is suffering
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This is your interdimensional Witch today.
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>>164783662
>gelt looks like the most alpha general in the army
>is only a vice captain
>charlotte looks like a maid
>is actually in charge
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>>164783859
why do rune characters have such big breasts
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>It's people play Nep and get a lucky Khawy and Morde drop.
Fuck this game honestly, The lack of removals for shit like Mordecai si RETARDED.
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>>164783859
What happens when you spellboost her
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>>164783742
>People leave a worse game to play a much better one (Shadowverse)
Gives me hope for humanity. Silver linings senpai.
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>>164783859
My wife
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>Forest player
>Plays wolf, suicides it
>Oh shit he has bolt and I have 17 HP
>He plays zero cost ANCIENT FOREST DRAGON
>evolves it into my ward
>plays Crystalia Tia
>Maximum Hamsa blade value
>Forest concedes

What the fuck. Was that guy running a jew forest deck with every gold/legendary?
I saw selywin's command and Maahes that game too.
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>>164783859
I love her
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>>164783919
That fanart is shit. Daria is NOT a cow.
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>>164782879
And the cutscene when Nexus appears is also dubbed even with the undub. Really would like if any of you have these problems or if it's just me.
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>>164783367
>Pure Elana Haven is just as shit as face Sword though.
Very arguable.

>What you're doing is telling someone new that some VERY GOOD CARDS can be liquified,
this isn't a fucking liquefy guide, it's a reroll guide
if the only relevant legendaries a new player has are tia, queen vampire, and cerberus, do you tell them to keep that? No, because they're either part of wallet decks (queen vampire) that will take forever to craft into, breaking the budget, or they're borderline out of the meta and possibly obsolete depending on the future of the craft. I know how cheap face dragon is, I know how cheap face sword is, I use them for dailies and they get the job done, they're still jank af. If those are the only decks a new player's reroll sets up for and the only decks available to relieve the monotony of budget bats, they'd be better off rerolling or just waiting for the vials to craft a T1/T2 deck from the bottom up.
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>>164783929
>100% chance to get morde and khawy
>lucky

What did anon mean by this?
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>>164784027
She got spellboosted too much
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>>164783742
I'm not going to lie but I kinda agree. The aggro in this game is way to fast. Games are pretty much ending by turn 6 now and while they leave cards like roach and daria unnerfed, decks like earthrite and control blood are still weak.
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>>164783929
You don't think they might just be running cards in four costs?
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>>164783949
She gives you 0 cost Emmys
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>>164783919
Magic
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is this literally the lewdest card?
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>>164783919
black magic

i wish i was a witch
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>>164784027
Shut it faglord
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>>164783834
>just now notice it's actually a bird on top of his sword and not just some random gold frame for the art.
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>>164783929
>lucky Khawy and Morde drop
that's not how the deck works
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>>164783859
[spellboosts dick]
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>turn 7 bahamut
i want to die
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>>164783328
>I already know it says in the tooltip
>can't even express himself right
Kill yourself already you lazy fag.
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>No banish shit for Shadowcraft apart from Odin turn 8.
EPIC XDXDXD
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>>164784243
>turn 7 khawy response
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>>164784062
Not him but i was considering to run Face Dragon to relieve the monotony of Bats.
Do you have a list for Dragon?
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I finally did it!
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>>164784359
S-SUGITA?
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>>164779847
I can't find the video in question.
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>>164784389
wow, we're so proud of you.
you did it with sword, literally the easiest shit.
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>>164784361
>want to relieve myself from the boredom of a brainless face deck
>let's play another face deck

Why?
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>>164784389
I really am proud of you. Don't listen to the other guy.
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>>164783929
???
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>>164784027
She was spellboosted and then Pascale boosted.
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>>164784359
>>164780205
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Why is Lionel bad for OTK Roach?

Turn 5-6 2/2 + do nothing too greedy?
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>>164784389
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>>164784518
I want to breed with Pamela
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>shitters finally see how cancerous Shadow is
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>>164784389
>did it on second run
>80 hours later
>only gone 5-0 twice
grats
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>>164784076
The actual good Nep decks don't have 100% draw rate for morde and khway though because you're fucking up the rest of your turn 1-7.
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>>164784550
I like it when they waste Odin on Khawaii.
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>invested all my vials in snowman PtP
Whelp, not the first bad investment I've made. Time to make a tyrant deck
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>>164783929
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>>164784485
Because i have the Fortes and i can't afford anything but face decks
The cheapest not face deck i could make is Seraph and i would still need to craft 3x Seraph and if going by netdeck Seraph lists i also need 1 more Eidolon and 3 rabbit respawning wards
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This card getting removed from game when? It basically makes shadow unstoppable single handedly
>isn't even a legendary
>2 fucking pp 2/2 so it can be ran in every deck
>NO way to play around it except pray to god he doesn't draw it
inb4
>just play daria rune bro
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>>164784568
Because you can just evo Feena for the same result
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>>164784752
kill it you moron
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>>164780205
or you could just ram goblin into it and draw a card, maybe even a forte
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>tfw you always draw a daria the turn before or even exactly the turn you want to play her
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>>164784752
literally just ill it
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>>164781396
Cancer get the chemo

>>164781385
Hot new meme decks
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post nep dicks
i mean decks
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>>164784698
When it gets them lethal it's not a waste.
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>>164784752
>2 fucking pp 2/2 so it can be removed by any spell
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>>164784675
I want to be Luna's onii-chan
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>>164784683
>actual good Nep decks 100% draw rate for morde and khway
KEK, I wanna see one of those please.
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>>164784652
>enemy plays morde
>lilly
whew !
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>>164784752
>does nothing: the card
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>>164784652
I have nothing agaist the class, i just hate Khawy
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>>164781556
Rate muh erasmus. He's like a polyphonic roar earlier and keeps beating retards off my boards.
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>>164784797
He has lethal on board, why the fuck would he leave it up to the RNG?
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alright i have 12k vials to spend. Do i make 2 more wolves for silver bolt memes, 2 more imperial dragoons for disco memes or 3 neps for shadowshit memes?
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>>164784752
>This card getting removed from game when?

You would love that wouldnt you
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>>164784906
Remove elf
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>>164784894
http://game-ai.jp/22385/
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>>164784752
Haven fag?
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>>164782092
WHEN YOU MAKE A GOOD DECK
EVERY HAND IS AN AMAZING HAND
WHO EVER COULD HAVE GUESSED
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>>164784752
Literally just kill their morde once after you killed it jesus christ retards this should be obvious.
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>>164784991
Nep looks the most fun. Silver Bolt has the best winrates.
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pathetic...
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>>164784990
shut the fuck up, dont reply to me retard
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>>164785034
>play nep
>get only 1 lich
H-HEAR
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>>164784990
Because I didnt look at his hp
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Just hear me out fellas.

Bear with me here, you with me so far?

So, do you know what control deck has as many taunts as your heart desires to stop the endless swarm of storm bugs, has the heal to deal with Vampy's burst, has the AoE to deal with Dorothy, and doesn't automatically lose to Seraph?

Why play the awful control Blood/Shadow memes, when you could be winning with best girl RIGHT NOW!
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>>164784894
Kek literally any master nep list, just Google it.
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>>164784752
This card should have an additional evolve effect so it can be like Vania.

Like evolve: summon a 1/2.
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>>164784991
Save the vials for a rainy day and play JO Dragon

>fell for the disco meme, 8000 vials spent
>fell for the nepnep meme, 5100 vials spent
>haven't won a single game with either
>won a single game with JO dragon with 1 HP remaining
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Is Ceridwen played at all? I need 500 vials and I wanted to know if it's fine to liquify my 2.
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>every other player climbing the ladder is tempo rune
>friends use tempo rune
>no escape from Daria's bullshit
I just want to ramp goddamn
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>>164784834
>>164784883
>just kill it
>except you have to first sacrifice a follower with evo or more spells to kill mordecai and then banish him
This card is pure fucking bullshit and I dont get why you are defending it
Shadow and haven have their strengths and weaknesses for a reason and he is removing ALL weaknesses FOR FREE
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>>164783142
Are you implying that dragons aren't, in fact, "like super cool and badass"?
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>>164784991
just play JO dragon, roost satan OTK, or conjuring force blade mage OTK if all you're going for is memes

this fucking captcha
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>>164785205
Summon skull beast.
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>>164785223
She's good in Atomeme decks.
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>>164785213
i dont really care about winning, i just reached masters. It's time for memes.
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>>164785186
http://usamin.love/card/sun_oracle_pascale/e_attack.wav
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why am i facing back to back literal T1 decks in unranked

fuck off chimps
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>>164785186
>Plays Pascale in Dirt
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>>164785186
>Playing shit Dirt Rune when you could be playing the superior PTP version
Pascale is only good as eye candy.
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>>164785034
>>164784894
BTFO

>>164785260
You suck at falseflagging.
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>>164784752
>Punch it in the face
>Dunk morde
>Get on with life

>>164785213
>Has terrible cards giving him terrible decks
>Probably liquified other cards for some of his vials
>Decks perform like shit cause he has shitty netdecks he doesn't understand how to play let alone tech into the current meta
>FUKKEN SHIT MEMES OMG I QUIT
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Please concede to me
59748
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>>164785317
Kill yourself dubcuck
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>>164785250
Pack noxious dragons and meme them with discard until they kill themselves.

>>164785271
What's OTK?
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>>164784361
I am absolutely 100% not a dragon player so take any competing lists over mine, but this is what I threw together from what I had. Could probably use some more tweaking but icba for what's in the end just a facerush deck. Masamune definitely not core.
I know the classic 3 golds the other guy was referring to are 3 dragonewt scholar, but I really like finding the space for breath of the salamander if possible. Great for stabilizing in an aggro mirror, great for clearing taunts like imprisoned dragon or temple defender, useful in less budget dragon decks too.
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>>164785431
http://usamin.love/card/attendant_of_night/e_attack.wav
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>>164785317
>dubcuck
https://a.pomf.cat/epkhvu.mp3
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>>164785489
Orgasmic Token Killing, wierd shit I know.
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>>164785317
>Dub
Fucking disgusting.
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I just pulled two Pascales! Should I actually do anything with them or should I just vial them for Neptits?
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>>164785625
dirt rune is shit
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>>164785394
Thanks for teh rupies
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Is it just me or is Silver Elf incredible good against Neptits, Control and Daria decks?

Just T8 OTK'd a control/neptits shadow player.
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>>164785518
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>>164785625
I think there's a version of Daria Rune that uses her and Dwarf.
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>pascale puts golem with 10/10
>put down nep
>khawy kills golem and heals 10
>put down another khawy after another pascale
>mfw i won agaisn't two pascales and an army of powercreeps
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>>164785549
Kill yourself dubcuck
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>>164785250
This humorous on at least two levels to me and probably more
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I think Veight should be 2/3 instead of 3/2
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>>164785694
Are you talking about the white wolf/silver bolt combo? I was thinking about making one of my own it looks fun
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>>164785625
You're asking Shadow mains general whether to craft their meme girl, or play something else? Really?
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When first revealed didn't Crystalia Lia have an evolve effect?
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>>164785250
sounds like you need to play JO dragon
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MOM GET THE CAMERA!!
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>>164785804
Yeah, also why doesn't thesmis destroy amulets?
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>>164785694
Dick?
I casually have 2 Awooo and a whole tempo forest set to adapt, fucking even got 6 Big kitty from the RoB packs
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mordekai is so fucking stupid its not even fucking funny. a fucking mongoloid designed this game.
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>>164785625
I still need to pull Pascale for her emblem, only one i am missing from DE. I don't think she likes me compare to 5 beelzebubs and 4 seraphs
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>>164784982
erasmus is one of those cards that's really fun and nice to use as filler in dailies decks but eats major shit against refined decks whose finishers are mordecai, seraph, bahamut, etc
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>>164785694
It should be good against slow decks like that but not Daria. How did you OTK on T8? T8 should be the Wolf. Unless you had a roach combo but in that case it's just business as usual and has nothing to do with Silver Bolt.
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>>164785431
>>164785563
>>164785572
DAZZLING FLASH
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>>164785886
Do you stay in masters once you get to that rank? Or is that rank reset once the season ends?
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>>164785804
but evolving veight is a common way for me to deal with 4/5s
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>>164785804
I think he should be a 1/2 if he's going to have clash and ward.
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>>164785804
I think you should kill yourself.
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>>164785840
Exactly, it fucks up so much of the current meta. It's my maindeck now and I have a good overall winrate.
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You still have a print of you last re roll?
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>>164785983
you stay in masters, the ranks don't reset at all
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>>164785549
>>164785317
is the admin of that site still here?
can you please get rid of the english voice files so reddit stops spamming our general with their shit taste? thanks
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>>164786003
Give dick please
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>>164785727
>Tales from the trench
Any dirt Rune with half a brain can destroy Shadow. The match up is hilariously in dirt's favor. Especially if they're running 3x Price/Calamitous/Petrification like me. Even the actually good Shadow deck, aggro, has a bad match up.
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>>164785996
You literally wouldn't say that to me in real life.
I'm a yellow belt at karate.
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>>164785886
>4winstreak
That elf slut from before just doesnt compare
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>>164785983
Stuck. Score resets so you can get more welfare packs but you're stuck in masters hell
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>play dirtrune
>fight nothing but dshift
>play control blood
>fight nothing but seraph
i hate this game
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Why are Haven players such disrespectful pieces of shit?
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>>164785983
Only master points resets, you don't lose the rank
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http://imgur.com/a/tJrym
Reroll? That's 2 Moon and 2 Dragoons as well.
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>>164785983
You stay in masters even after reset. However your master score resets at the end of each season/month.
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>>164786093
the faggot pretified my mord and i still won. nep memes 2strong
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I think I just got outplayed
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>>164780286
Is there a combo sheet for the improved roach combo?
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> "I lost ? Yeah, right !
> They drop another one

It's fine.
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>>164786003
Do you use three of each? I have two wolves and a silver bolt but have plenty of vials
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I'm about to use all of my vials to create 3 Daria and 3 Levi, should I stop?
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>>164786030
>Rerolling
I started with a Pluto, Olivia, and Aurelia and no good goldens.
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>>164785896
>>164786061
Tempo is the most important part of the deck, and ofc the Wincon. 2 Awoo is enough. You can switch between fairy beast/canopie and replace homecoming with additional value if you want.

>>164785931
My fault, meant T9.
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>>164786093
Aggro Shadow player here, can confirm. Once Juno's comes down I just scoop unless I can kill them with burn.
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>>164786134
Cause cancer
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>>164786093
Basically this. Dirt Rune thrives against control decks that don't have a combo.

You just Petrify or Calamitous Morde and put down a wall of golems that Shadow has no way to get around once they run out of foul tempest.
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>>164786217
Yeah. You want the emblem don't you?
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>>164785034
>take a standard deck
>put Nep in it
>NEP DECK
Kek, so that's why I see so many failed Nep summons in mirror matches. How's the win rate?

>>164785368
>ask for a deck list
>get it
>OMFG BTFO
Are you 12?
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>>164786114
Rowen is the supreme master race.
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>>164786179
yes, however, I didn't save it
also the combo sheet doesn't take into account the new 0 cost gobbus
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I'm tired of playing face drago, I wanna play something spoopy! GIMME SOMETHING SPOOPY!!

What's the fate of shadow in this expansion?
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what's with all the rng in shadowcraft now
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>>164786224
Have you tried Selwyn for slowing down more?
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>>164786217
P-please don't !
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>>164786336
nep nep costs a lot of vials
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What's the best anti aggro deck?
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>>164777746
Based Roach.

>>164778410
Arachnid.
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>>164786053
kys
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>>164786419
Seraph
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>>164786279
Newfag here, you don't get the emblem if you craft a lego instead of finding it?
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>>164786140
>>164786140
You got shadow and dragon. Up to you.

>>164786170
>>164786170
What even? T4 lord atomeme'd?

>>164786336
It got buffed across the board. Play aggro shadow, nep shadow or tyrant/atomemes
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>>164786217
this deck is broken as fuck. do it if you want to climb easy.
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>>164786290
>waste all banishes early on because the entire deck is last words
>have nothing left for lategame

I love elana hag players
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>>164786290
>How's the win rate?
I'm about 80% with it in Master right now. However it's mainly because I haven't been running into a lot of aggro yet, which is the only real counter.
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>>164786336
>half of thread is complaining about shadow
Take a guess.
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>>164786419
Ramp Dragon takes a fat dump on Daria decks.
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>>164786361
I don't feel like you need anymore slowdown. You either win like a tempo forest with pure value in early game or finish with Silverbolt.

The perfect OTK T9 isn't really the main focus and just nice to happen. You could use the 3pp storm summon that was added with ROB for more tempo play.
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>>164786460
Nope. Standard ones are there from the start though.
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LITERAL OVER 20 GAMES IN A ROW OF BEING PUT IN A LOSING POSITION FROM THE VERY BEGINNING OF A GAME! I LEGITIMATELY HAVE ONLY PLAYED BAD MATCHUPS AND FORCED TO GO FIRST IN ALL OF THEM EXCEPT THE FEW MIRRORS WHERE IM FORCED TO GO SECOND! WHAT THE LITERAL FUCK IS THIS MATCHMAKING SYSTEM, IT'S FUCKING BUSTED TO SHIT! FUCK YOU CYGAMES AND YOU'RE BULLSHIT!! i CAN LEGITIMATELY BELIEVE THAT FAGGOT THAT WOULD CONSTANTLY MEME IN THESE THREADS CLAIMING TO HAVE A HORRIBLE LOSING STREAK COULD'VE BEEN TELLING THE FUCKING TRUTH! THIS SHIT IS OUT OF HAND AND HOPE YOUR GAME BURNS, YOU PIECES OF SHITS! YOU FUCKED YOUR ENTIRE GAME'S BALANCE BECAUSE YOU WANTED TO CATER TO RNG AND YGO STYLE GAMEPLAY! YOU'VE DESTROYED ANY AND ALL CHANCES OF BALANCE BECAUSE NOW IT WILL BE A CONSTANT CASE OF POWERCREEPING! YOU SHOULD'VE FUCKING KNEW BETTER, YOU DUMB FUCCKING JAP CUNTS! WASTING MY MOTHAFUCKIN TIME! RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!

This game is a fucking joke now. I'll wait until they make some changes before ever taking it seriously. Hell I would've thrown so much money at the game like when I started and was having so much fun.
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So i just started a few days ago and I ended up in this situation. I opened animated Otohime on my phone which was just supposed to be temporary before i transferred my Steam shadowverse account to it.

I kinda want to play swordcraft by the looks of it. Should I bite the bullet and use the reroll account?

(reroll on the left. main with username i like on the right)
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>>164786419
control blood
>>
>mulligan all 3
>get two of them back

Yeah alright fuck you too, Cygames. Get a better random number generator.
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>>164786134
even aggro blood trades with mary whenever i put her down. one even missed lethal to kill her.
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>>164786217
Do it if you want to climb fast. I've climbed more with it in 1 day than I have in an entire week before.
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>>164786468
I think they are the cards that most likely would be nerfed too
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>>164786461
t2 Corpse
t3 Attendant
t4 Voices of Resentment and Atomy
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>>164786460
Crafting doesn't give the emblem
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>>164785868
I might have enough for this crazy shit.
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what autistic things have you done today /svg/?
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>>164786336
JO dragon
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>>164786290
>Claim you can get 100% draw rate with Morde
>Anon points out Nep decks don't go for the 100% Morde since you have a weak early game
>NU UH POST DECK LIST :)))

inb4 "It wasn't me" lmao
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>>164786552
Keep right, make seraph deck.
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>>164786552
Right is better. It's really good if you want to play Seraph actually. Play Seraph or reroll.
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>>164786549
Kill yourself
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Post cancer ramp/storm Dragon. I had enough disco and JO.
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>clarke's english evolve line
Why are all the characters in this universe such shitheads?
Is it just the english VAs or is it this bad in japanese too?
>>
I want to hate daria but she's just so cute and inconsistent, so adorable.
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is the only thing that makes JO dragon JO having the crystal?
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>>164786416
Nothing cheaper and viable than nepnep in this expansion?

>>164786461
>>164786484
That's good to hear. So all of shadows deck are viable now?

>>164786647
Excuse me what?
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>>164786140
The only goodies are Merlin,Bahamut and Moon.
Imperial,Zinitra and Wolf are meme tier combosinb4 meme.

It's a 7/10 start you only need 2 Merlin for D-shift and Bahamut goes in every deck.
Moon and Lord of the are not seeing to much play .
The only problem is how boring d-shift deck is is literally masturbating your d-shift and flame to cum in the enemy face after 7 turns.


What class you want to play?
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>>164786617
Not going to happen.
If Elana and almost anything Elf has wasn't nerfed, she isn't going to either.
They'll just come up with something the next expansion that changes the meta again.
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>>164786639
Is this the story mode?
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>>164786290
Post your deck. The game-ai one is great so I fail to see how yours could be any better
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>>164786549
Unfuck your deck or go ahead and keep blaming the game for you being bad. I'm going 70% with banner memes right now.
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>>164784894
here faggot
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>>164786731

>Hoooow interesting

No the JP VA's aren't as shit sounding.
>>
What cards were nerfed in the game? Were they too strong? How often the devs do change cards?
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>>164785518
one of my favorite cards
>>
>tfw I don't particularly like anime
>tfw I definitlely don't enjoy anime titties
>tfw shadowverse is a fun game anyways
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>>164786549
>>164786594
You should stop when you are tilted Mr. Pareidolia
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>>164786889
WoW that is literally terrible
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>>164786774
It has enough damage to kill even without any JO crystals. JO crystals just make you win faster and give you massive control
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>>164786796
Shadow seems fun but I didn't really get much, heard Blood is cheap and efficient. Seems like I got a lot of stuff for Haven?
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>>164786889
How is that 100% draw rate for Morde and Khawy? Not him btw. Just wondering
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>>164786618
>>164786618
>No Acolyte's light
It's a christmas miracle

>>164786639
I played JO durrgin and I liked it. It's what rune should have been.
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>>164786881
>>164786697
You can go fuck each other. This game has shit matchmaking.
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>>164786938
they nerfed home coming, a card that made all followers return to their owner's hand, from 5 mana to 7 mana. they did this because p2p forest had a consistent 70% winrate.
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>>164786549
Going first is better post Bahamut you dickshit.

>>164786969
I'm only the second guy. Why would you think those two tones are the same person?
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>>164786793

Yep. People like to harp on about Nep, but the reality is that Shadow got a TON of good support at all cost ranges, none of which are named Nephtys.

Khawy, Reaper, Sexton, Voices, Lurching, Attendant, Necroassassin, etc.; shadow has a much broader stable of bread and butter good cards now, and that's showing in the sheer variety of shadow lists you can see on ladder

that said, atomeme and tyrant are still shakey, but like >>164786170 shows, the new cards help out even the most unconventional decks
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>>164786964
>>tfw I definitlely don't enjoy anime titties
why
>>
>RENOUNCE YOUR FALSE RELIGION
Haven has the best english VAs
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>>164786889
Don't you need like a ratio of 3:1 in terms of spells and followers when playing Nep
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>>164786938

I believe only Homecoming and Harvest Festival were changed. Keep in mind Forest's winrate was absolutely insane when they made this change. The devs do not like changing cards.
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> It's a Yurius episode
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>>164787025
They should unnerf it. PtP is literal trash now.
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>>164786793
Yeah.
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>>164787020
>2,6,7,8 cost followers (+nep)
>100% chance to pull all of them if you play on an empty board

Gee I wonder. That deck itself is absolute garbage, no wonder they keep losing with it
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>>164787020
>Play Nep
>It pulls 4 followers from different costs
>Only 4 different costs for followers in the deck
>Balor and Khawy guaranteed
>Can't pull herself so Mordy is guaranteed as well.
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>>164787102
Kill yourself dubcuck
>>
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Who #wolfbolt here?
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>>164787041
No it isn't, you D rank shitter.

>>164787020
By having only 4 different cost for followers

>>164787167
>>164786985
>Doubting a high ranking Masters list just to be a memeing faggot
k
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>>164787167
>>164787173
What if they draw Unica?
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>>164786889

>Guy plays nep.
>Balor Kahwy Morde
>Balor effect kills all my dudes before Kawhy's effect goes off
>DoD next turn for 2 dmg lethal

Never nepped so hard.
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>>164786889
>Lyrial

That's not the first time I've run into this. Why would you ever want to run her? Explain.
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>>164787217
I'm going to rape Feena and make gobu watch.
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>>164787139
>It's a Blitz Lancer episode
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>>164786889
Stop posting that stupid netdeck

>>164787196
If you can't acknowledge Jamieson Price as a stellar voice actor then just get out of my face son.
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>>164786996
Aggro blood, aggro sword/banner sword, and storm haven are the go to really cheap whatever fits ships decks

>>164787024
Build a more rounded deck and accept the resulting losses as the consequences of a moderate deck
Or specialize deeper and suck it up when your counter counters you
Sorry the game isn't just sending you (you win!)'s

>>164787139
>It's a T6 killed from hand tyrant episode
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>>164787102
YOUR EVIL MEMES END NOW
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>>164787041
Not because you are the same person is that tilting in games make you not enjoying play it
>>164786996
If you like shadow you should aim for it the decks are expensive and require some legenderies.
I recomend you to do it try to get.
Nephthy,Cerberus and Lord of the Flies
For the gold Death Breath,Phanton Howl,Pact of netherrogod and Foul tempest.
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>>164787279
That's number 4 so who cares?
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>>164787295
Why Feena over Gobu tho
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>>164787335
Kill yourself dubcuck
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>>164787270
Give it a try tomorrow in unranked
Maybe it will be more comfy than GobuRoach OTK
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>>164787279
What the fuck are you talking about? Do you not understand how Nep works?
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what decks are using Odin now? I want to figure out if crafting 3 of them is worth it.
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>>164787425

gotta fuck the smug outta her
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>>164787078
Wow, that's nice. Any general way of playing shadow? Haven't touched her at allbut she seems kinda nice to play with. Any decent budget decks to start?
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>>164787270
#wolfbolt my friend.
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can someone pass me the "neutralcraft" deck list?
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>>164787385
>Not because you are the same person is that tilting in games make you not enjoying play it
ESL?
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>>164786881
Post deck pls.
Daria and bats are too crazy for me to even play banner at times.
Everybody else is hard control, and makes it pretty tough.
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>>164787475
Running away is okay~
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>>164787295
>>164787425
Yeah, you'd stand to gain a stronger boner if you do Gobu while Feena and roach watch.
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what happens if i have 2 shadows and cast undying resentment on a follower with 2 health?
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>>164787404
>>164787457
Sorry. Thought Nep drew 3 followers for some reason.
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>>164787279
The 2 cost ones are just there so that you won't die before turn 8. Them dying to nep doesn't matter as long as you get morde,khawy and whoever else you want
>>164787274
>lyrial in a nep deck when you can go ghosthound sexton and make that morde unbanishable since its effect goes beyond fanfare
>master
Sure thing
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>>164787217
Beautiful, powerful and cute to boot!
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>>164787280
It actually doesn't work like that, at least not every time I've used it. The effect of Khawy goes off first no matter.

>>164787335
stop being a faggot accept you've btfo'd

>>164787373
You haven't seen my decks though.
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>>164787102
Fuck off back to your /hsg/, dubfag.
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>>164787554
It uses up your shadows.
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>>164787458
Literally everything. It shits on so much it's not even funny.

>>164787530
I just grabbed all the recent DE and Baha banner/aggro sword and put together with what I had.
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>>164787385
I feel like every roll I'm just getting stuff from everything. Might take an eternity to get a lot of what I need for one thing. This is my 7th reroll I think.
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Why the fuck does the Rune prebuilt has meme golem instead of Pamela?
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>>164787507
Yeah
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stop being so fast
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>>164787557
That is if you play her on a non empty board, then yes, your drops aren't guaranteed.
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>>164787603
Judgement for heretics like you!
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>>164787578
If it cries like a shitty deck babby, it's a shitty deck. Go study do your homework so you can relax over the weekend kiddo. But don't forget to study, it'd be a shame if you failed your pop quizzes.
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>>164787270
Roach bricks less
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>>164787617
I did 12 rolls untill get something good and really worth.
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>People will defend this

>>164787740
kys
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>>164786889
>No turn 3, turn 4, or turn 5 play
This is why Nep cucks get dumpstered by aggro and midrange.
>>
Can I do anything with two Lords of Darkness?
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>>164787458
control sword, haven

gets played a lot but mostly x2 I think
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>>164787808
It's missing the part from the previous turn where Levi evolves and he spews Piercing Runes until everything is dead.
>>
Got three eidolons of madness. Is this shit worth keeping for haven?
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>>164786889
>lyrial
Why?
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>>164787818
It's ok, turn7 Khawy with 2 hp left wins you the game
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Anyone have a normal midrange list for Shadowcraft? I need it for reference.

I'm guessing it's just the old midrange + khawy + voices of resentment.
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>>164787624
Because it's a dshift base, not dirtrune. I guess they could have given you Gandalf instead but it's not like people would use him either.
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>>164787825
A deck?
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>>164787887
couldn't fit all that into a webm while maintaining a good bitrate.
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>>164787564
>when you can go ghosthound sexton and make that morde unbanishable
nice theorycrafting faggot
show me a single masters list that runs ghosthound sexton, instead of dismissing competent deckbuilders and competent pilots because they don't go out of their way to include one combo that you imagined, a priori, to be essential
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>>164787808
>aggrobat fag getting aggro'd

pottery
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>>164787940
>Khawy doing anything against aggrofags with low statted weenies
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>>164787756
It's definitely possible there was just something horribly wrong with my turbo roach build, but my win rate with wolfbolt is blowing it out of the water, so I think I'll stay the course.

This shit's gonna get me into masters I swear.
>>
>>164787483

The only real staple legendary in Shadow is Cerberus, who'll you'll want at least 2-3 of. Other than that, look at Phantom Howl, Foul Tempest, and Death's Breath as other core cards.

Aggressive lists rely upon the Cerberus+Howl combo to do ~11 damage from hand around turn 6 to finish the game.

Midrange still leans on the combo, but starts to throw in bigger followers like Khawy or LotF, focusing more on trading and winning the game through board dominance.

Control (Nep excluded) focuses on generating shadows in the early game, as well as making use of powerful LW effects like Lurching/Attendant/Morde/etc. when combined with Urd or Necroassassin. Death's Breath and Khawy ensure that you should have a good amount of breathing room t6-7 to set up whatever wincon you're running, be it Nep or Morde, or whatever. Control Shadow usually wins by outlasting the opponent and grinding them down; this means that they are incredibly weak vs. Dirtrune, the premier grinder deck.
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Is the new year's special for crystals a 1 time deal?
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>>164787894
most fun haven deck
>>
When did you stop worrying about cancer and balance and embrace the aggro /svg/?
>>
>>164787940
>crimson sorcery
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>>164787624
Mythril Golem is good.
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>>164787808
>Discord
>elitewarez
>crunchyroll
Git gud
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>>164788021
yes
>>
balor ALWAYS triggers before khawy for me off nep and it ALWAYS ends in me dying to aggro because of it. thinking about removing balor honestly
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>>164787652
Only thing wrong is that--when you're making a point despite the previous statement--you use 'but', not 'is'.
>>
>>164786889
This list is awful. There's a reason why lists like >>164785034 don't care about the meme Morde drop in favour of having a stronger stabilizing early game so you can actually survive until Nep.
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>>164787772
Yeah it just sucks dumping 10 legendaries when in reality I could just dust them and make something cheap like Bloodcraft completely.
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>>164787808
>no gay porn tabs
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>>164787947
Haven't touched on this one in a while, someone might have something better as of now (if they aren't riding the nepdeck train), but it should give you an idea of what do do.
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>>164787808
>playing the most braindead deck in the game
>complaining about other deck

Eat shit fag.
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>>164788067
Yeah, more than once is too good to be true.
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>>164787808
>being a salty disconnecter
Enjoy your ban
>>
I know Pamela is the original but I prefer Pascale. Fuck Daria though, Dorothy is a way better name for a witch.
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>>164788114
Exact opposite for me, I've literally never seen Khawy go off after Balor. Khawys effect has always taken priority.
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>>164788187
Thats Daria, not Blood
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>>164787954
what deck though
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>>164787947
"a" normal midrange list? sue
bone chimera doesn't taunt but it's the same shadow generation as spartoi soldier and a lot better with sac effects
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>>164788265
any satan deck
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>>164788114

Nep always summons and destroys cards in the order of lowest cost to highest.

I don't even run nep and I know this.
>>
>>164787808
Love being proven right
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>>164787987
What theorycrafting? ghosthound costs 2 nep costs 8
even if you play nep at turn 8 theres a high chance you'll get him out of her. What the fuck do you expect to do with that 1 damage by wasting evo?
Oh right I forgot you're a master and I'm not. I'll remember that next time
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>>164788251
literally "unga bunga vampy go face now"- the deck
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94494

Can I get a concede?
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>>164788119
thanks anony
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>>164788343
I know right, best feeling, too bad no one is feeling it right now.
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>>164788357
Daria is the same but without IQ 20+ cards like the Fortress
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>>164787808
>Telling someone to kill themselves
>When he's a disconnector
That's rich

>>164787894
Yeah. You'll get a kick out of hares
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>>164787808
>crunchyroll
>ygo

Stay in /dng/ you retarded piece of shit.
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>Lucky faggot gets two Dia Dalmation in a row to win the game.
Fuck this game honestly.
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>>164788251
>this is what aggrobat shitter actually believe

At least you need to calculate your spellboost. Aggrobat doesn't have any gameplan other than hitting face and ignore everything else that isn't ward.
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>>164788012
I'll try more wolf bolt but I think roach combo has a better win rate if you master it.
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>>164787285
>>164787920
See >>164787564
>The 2 cost ones are just there so that you won't die before turn 8.
It doesn't matter who, you just need 2 cost 2/2 to use as meatshield until Nep.
Lyrial is cute and deal 1 damage upon evolve meaning she can dispatch 4/5 follower by herself so there's that.
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Guess
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>>164788485
>playing on dueling network
no thank you shitter, go back to the nest you came from.
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>>164788114
>>164788332
The summoning is random and the killing is the order they were summoned
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>Get ass rammed by Control shadow
>Switch to D-shift and shit on them

Fuck you Nep
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>>164782590

Just roll bannermemes or aggrobats, and then work your way into a cheapo storm haven deck or something if you want to upgrade to something not poverty tier.

Doesn't take long to build up a deck, and don't forget you're going to be facing fellow stupid newbies with mostly shit cards from, like, D to A rank.

that said, I'd probly reroll that desu senpai, tho moon is bae
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>>164788371
Thanks.
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>>164788559
Queen Medb or something.
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>>164786482
I'm about 70% with my version. Was at 83%, but that was before I encountered aggro.
I have 3 consistent drops. The fourth and RNG infested one is 2pp.

I really like the consistency I have with that deck. That other deck is not what I really can get behind. I know why it is build that way, but it just isn't my ideal Nep deck. The little bit bigger RNG factor is one of the reasons.

>>164786650
>deck is build so that you can't get a 100% morde and Khawy draw
>find that hilarious and want to see those kind of decks
>get fed with a spoon
Stop being retarded and pay attention during class.
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>>164788516
>counting the spellboost
Oh please, DShift has way more counting than that and it's still stupidly easy
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>>164788579
>calling others shitter after proving that you are one
>using crunchyroll
Kill yourself
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>>164788559
This reminds me, are there artist credits in this game? I recognize a few and this is one I THINK I recognize but I'm not 100% certain.
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>>164784112
>Games are pretty much ending by turn 6 now
compared to hearthstone that's actually kind of slow. at least there are no cancerous overpowered 1 drops in this game
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>>164788683
Still takes more thinking than ungabats.
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>>164788332
>>164788592
seems like you actually didn't know
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COMMENCE EXPERIMENT
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>>164777745
>>164777745
>>164777745
jump to the vampycuck thread, guys
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>>164788795
Yeah, dropping these Clarkes and spamming low cost spells is hard
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>>164788742
>claims I'm a shitter without anything but some shit opinion
>being autistic enough to get mad about someone using Crunchyroll
Sorry, you mongloid, but if I get from a phone plan for 'free' then you're damn right I'm gonna use it.
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>>164788645
>Doesn't take long to build up a deck, and don't forget you're going to be facing fellow stupid newbies with mostly shit cards from, like, D to A rank.
Eh, is this really true? I haven't started laddering myself yet but despite this thought seeming correct it seems more likely to me that people are playing the powerful cheap high level decks like Spellboost Followers or Aggro Bats and such. It's so easy to get them or a Haven deck or something that it seems kind of ridiculosu to me to NOT get those.
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>>164784112
turn 8 is when the wincons come in play so aggro decks have to win before that or else they're shit
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>>164788676
Ding dong
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>>164784112
Daria is not the reason why tempo rune can end game really fast. It's Levi, Piercing Rune and Clarke.
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>>164788350
>What theorycrafting? ghosthound costs 2 nep costs 8
The theorycrafting is when you imagine you'll have sexton to combo with mordecai, when you imagine that this will provide a meaningful benefit, and when you imagine that it will provide enough of a benefit to make it worth choosing sexton over other cards

>What the fuck do you expect to do with that 1 damage by wasting evo?
manage the board better and stay alive? also funny that you describe it as "wasting evo", if you're afraid to evo a 2 drop because it's a waste you'll drop a lot of games to bad tempo

i'm not at masters but i at least have the good grace to take seriously the opinions of those who are. christ, it's like you people don't even believe in the existence of skill, as if people with hundreds of additional games under their belt just got lucky and haven't adjusted their play at all from what makes sense from your current perspective
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>>164788927
Disaster witch.
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>>164786134
Leaving a Bloody Mary alive sure is the biggest mistake anyone can ever do.
Shitters dont know about the biggest pain train in the game besides rhinos.
>>
LF help w/ daily
94948
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Why every roach combo list I see is running Selwyn instead of mischief? As random as it is, at least mischief can actually deal with late game wards, and not just pretend it is a combo piece.

>>164788927
That new 6pp (7?) Rune card that gives you a crimson Sorcery.
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>>164788743
No, that's why you read the OP and use google if you can't into moon.
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>>164789120

Wrong
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>>164788832
>dubcuck
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Can I do roach OTK with less than the 6 forest leggos in every deck?
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>>164788016
So what's a good type of playstyle to start shadow and where do I go from there?
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>>164788332
That's wrong stupid.
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>>164788913

Honestly, you're kinda underestimating just how "bad" the beginner rankers are. No offense.

10+ win streaks aren't uncommon there with even a somewhat decent deck from any craft.

Spellboost followers requires 3 Darias to work optimally, which most newbs probably shouldn't have. Aggrobat netdeckers will be more a problem, but it can be beaten with some low cost wards and contesting their early damage.

Storm Haven is still tournament worthy, and a little more tricky to play around. I recommend it, as it's still aggressive, but a nice change of pace from straight aggro decks like bannermemes and bats. It's also pretty flexible with what you can tech in to deal with just about any deck.

You're not gonna run into an absolute endless horde of them starting out, though. Point grinders don't really start doing that until like A/master rank, which is still a ways off for you.
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>>164788114
Balor is shit, stop running it
hell's unleasher or even the 6 drop ward thing is better
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>>164786134
Please post an image of your dick or a code!
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>>164788913
the low ranks are filled with super shitters who run super garbage decks, it isn't like hearthstone where they start netdecking at rank 20 at all. I started playing a few days ago and I am at a 16 win streak with nep shadowcraft
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>>164790682
https://shadowverse-portal.com/deckbuilder/create/6?hash=1.6.65BUS.65BUS.65BUS.67WPs.67WPs.67WPs.5_pzw.5_p-4.5_p-4.5_p-4.67SGY.67SGY.6BI6S.6BI6S.6BI6S.6BLHQ.63ilo.63ilo.63ilo.5_rhS.5_rhS.5_rhS.63gZA.63gZA.67Yro.67Yro.67Yro.63i_Q.63i_Q.63kio.63kio.fqZ4o.6BM-o.6BM-o.65GMy.63i_a.63i_a.63i_a.63iHA.63iHA

It's a JP master cblood deck with unicas and no Yurius.
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Friendly reminder to never concede.

>get bad hand
>opponent concedes

>mirror gets plenty of good combos, gets lethal with imp, has an aneurysm and goes board giving me the win for free

Friendly reminder to never concede.
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>>164791214
Despite opening a billion Bloody Marys and having most of the Legendaries for the deck, I'm missing too many Golds.
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>>164787567
Dub Feena > Nip Feena
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>>164781443
I thought he was decent during the DE days. I feel like now I see more ppl running wind god now, since she's cheaper and keeps boosting if the opponent can't take her out
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>>164791214
>no righteous devils
Dropped.
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>>164791214
>not running a 2 drop that completely fucks an entire craft

??????????????
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I want to make a control deck! Which is cheaper, Blood or Shadow? I like both of those classes the most.
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>>164796032
Shadow is cheaper and better atm
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Unga players take so long to play their turns.

Please learn to add before you play a card game thank you
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