/dsg/ - Demon's and Dark Souls General

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>>164768907

I have absolutely no clue what you mean with this post.

>using glitches is fine if you're fighting against weapons that are already bad

?????????????????????

Where are you even going with this

Favorite spells to use?

Favorite mage weapons?

Recommend me some good unusual weapons to use in DS2 pvp.

A few ideas I'm thinking so far:
>Partizan
>Syan's Halberd
>Gyrm Great Hammer

And does anyone have some tips on making these weapons work in PvP?:
>Yorgh's Spear
>Curved Nil Greatsword
>Royal Dirk
>Red Rust Scimitar (PS?)
>Any halberd (seriously, I can't ever hit anyone with the standard halberd moveset...)
>Sacred chime Hammer

Is there a SINGLE reason why way of blue, blue sentinels and darkmoon couldn't have been made a single covenant?

>>164769665
I'm saying the opposite. Toggle escaping is not fine. Using it is not fine. It exisitng makes the game worse since the weapons toggling is best against also happen to be mostly bad weapons in the game.

The way the game was intended, and how it should've been is, if you're bad enough to get hit by an ultra, they get to empty their stamina on you. That's because even if they do manage to hit that, they're still weaker than the top tier weapons but would at least have something to do in PvP beside Gr8 club BS fishing.

>>164769813
Because they are all for different progression through playthrough. They expect way of the blue for early game, blue sentinels for mid-game, and Darkmoon for late game.

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How do we stop them?

>>164769035
I'm still here. I can summon you with no problems with that SM.

>>164769752
Try any of the spider weapons, puzzle sword and royal dirk(RH)+espada ropera(LH)

Spider weapons are okay. Use the fang's r2 at close-middle range and it randomly catches people offguard so you can spam r1 while they're fatrolling. Spider silk is fairly long and it's good way to keep your distance while chipping turtles away

Puzzle sword works if you mix the R2 with R1s. R1 like you normally would to whiff and use the R2 when they're in midrange. The range on this sword is surprisingly underestimated and you can whip people when they think they got away plus the followup R2 is like a extended spear attack.

Royal dirk should be used to rollcatch people while Espada Ropera will be your main bread-and-butter to harass people. You can 2h the royal dirk for the long knife moveset or even powerstance and l1/l2 to rollcatch for huge counter damage. Espada Ropera can also parry and you can switch to a high riposte weapon to finish them off. It's a nobleman weapon set that's fancy as fuck and makes use of every move.

>>164770661
we kill them in ds3's second dlc

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I

HAVE

GOT

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>>164770773
Waitin'

I wanna 100% DS3 on xbone since I did the same for the previous games.

This means I have to rank up once or twice in every covenant.

Any tips?

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>>164770920

>>164771113
Stay low level to get covenant activity for farron watchdogs/blue sentinels.

spitballing ideas that wouldv'e improved das3 covenants
>Warriors of Sunlight:
Whatever, they're fine
>Way of Blue:
Combined with Blue Sentinels
>Blue Sentinels:
Function as police officers, and protect other Sentinels
>Mound Makers:
Grapes function like they already do, but can summon red phantoms. Hosts being invaded by Grapes have a higher chance of being invaded by other grapes mid-invasion. Killing the host with babysitter phantoms still in world grants more shackles.
>Fingers
Like they are now, but hosts are blocked from summoning help if they are invaded by a finger, to prevent ganks
>Watchdogs:
Fine
>Dorkmoons/Faithful:
I want these two covenants to interact somehow, since they kind of take up the same space, like the area behind pontiff and anor londo. Maybe some kind of "territory control" thing? Where the two covenants invade each other back and forth, but have different spawn locations. I want it to encourage melee brawls with lots of people on both sides.

>>164770348
not only is this really stupid as an idea, why exactly would darkmoon be "late game" when it's literally identical to blue sentinels for practical purposes

>>164770987
I don't see your sign.
Let's try with the ring. I've picked the 1st god.

>>164771301
i'd rather they make it so grape signs look like white signs

right now grape doesn't even work because there's zero reason to ever summon one unless you just don't know any better, then you learn to never summon them again

there's no reason to even bother taking the risk when you can summon white/gold so easily

I heard about BB2 might happen this year. Is this just some clickbait garbage rags publishing idle rumours or what up?

>>164772008
yes

>>164770987
Not sure if it was you because armor and weapon was different, but thanks. No way?
I still need to kill blue Smelter Demon if you wanna help.

>>164772515
I guess someone else helped you

Blue sentinels should auto-summon you be summoned into other player's boss battles to help them. Should be based on similar soul level. You get reward by killing bosses.

Darkmoon should auto-summon you while a player is being invaded, prioritizing higher SL invaders. Should have no lower limit for soul level. You get rewards by killing invaders.

Way of Blue should give you priority for both covenants to come help you. You get rewards by killing invaders or bosses with either, but takes longer to level up.

Priority tiers for who gets support form Way of Blue / Blue sentinels:
>+2 priority: host is in way of the blue covenant
>+1 priority: Host is in a boss battle
>+1 Priority: for each invader the host has
>-1 Priority for each co-op phantom the host has

So if you summon 2 co-op phantoms, it's unlikely that you'll get a blue phantom supporting you. If you are invaded by 2 people (or invaded during a boss battle) you should get the highest priority for darkmoon/blue sentinel.

>>164772562
He looked nothing like the character in your pic, but I saw his sign both when I was not wearing the ring and when I was wearing it, so I thought maybe it was really you.
What do you say about the Smelter Demon then?

>>164772612

Meant as a reply to
>>164771301

>>164771797
>grape signs look like white signs
I feel it

How all DS covenants should work:

>There should be some reason to farm the covenant even if you just want to play the main story. (such as both sides of Cat Ring)
>The items obtainable from the covenant should be obtainable elsewhere even if you are not in the covenant, the covenant just gives you an alternate (and more fun) way to obtain them.
>The items required to upgrade the covenant should be obtainable elsewhere even if you are offline, the covenant just gives you an alternate (and more fun) way to obtain them.
>You should be able to level up all covenants on a single character/NG.
>The covenant should continue giving you useful rewards even at max level.
>The covenant should be necessary for most players to interact with at some point to complete the game

The ideal covenant in DS is the cat ring covenant. Darkwraith is second.

>>164773232
You can essentially rank how good a covenant is by how many rules it violates. Like DS2's Blue Sentinels, which violates every single one of those rules and is now basically impossible to level up.

>>164772739
Might as well try, but I'm not expecting anything since online in DaS2 sometimes decides to not work properly between 2 people but when trying to connect with others "it just works"

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>>164770661
>Serpent rhymes with merchant.

>>164773432
Alright. I'll put the Name-Engraved Ring and choose Caitha, Goddess of Tears (3rd one).

>>164773232
>cat breaks 3rd rule
>darkwraith breaks 2nd and 6th

>>164773232
I agree with all of those except I think every covenant should have one reward tier that gives something unique and flavorable to that covenant, even if it's just a set of armor. Nothing overpowered, just mid tier stuff that you can use to show off which covenant(s) you belong to and/or like the most.
Adding to that, all of the covenants should have an interactive leader who you actually talk with, DS3 was terrible with that.

>>164773432
>>164773542
Nevermind. I see your sign without it. I summoned you and died, I think. Summoning again.

>>164773232
>>The covenant should be necessary for most players to interact with at some point to complete the game
This is what made me hate 2 and 3's covenants. They're a bunch of nobodies

>>164769752
>Partizan
take a good look at the strong attacks 1handed and 2handed, one of em sweeps left, while the other sweeps right. best spear with best moveset
>Gyrm greathammer
dont use lock-on
>Yorgh's Spear
go 2handed only, onehanded moveset sucks
hitcheck with 2H R1, if it hits, follow up with second R1. Bqckstep into sprint attack is really good as a counter
>Curved Nil Greatsword
put it in your left hand and powerstance with one of the smelter swords
>Any halberd
don't use lock-on
>Sacred chime hamner
don't use lock-on

Do all of these faggots praising this boss invasion glitch not realize how much it messes up bosses supposed to be player vs boss and nothing else if they so want? Having someone invade, and fuck up the boss for you isn't a thing most players want. If they want help they can summon help. Having a player without any interaction or anything notifying you, come in and kill your boss isn't immersive or even designed around, it's completely flawed and makes no sense.

>>164772612
there's no reason for way of blue to exist, it's an inherently bad idea because it requires too many things to happen for it to work

blue invaders should be able to protect eachother, or getting blues to protect you should just be a ring anyone can wear

nobody wants to join the pussy covenant when they could join a covenant that actually lets them do things, especially when there's no actual penalty for abandoning covenants anymore

>>164773986
Play offline

>>164773986
play offline if you want to ensure you aren't distracted fighting the boss

Is there a tier list for DS3's spells like there are for weapons?

>>164773702
Every covenant breaks at least 1 rule. Cat Covenant is the best because you don't get benefits for upgrading, so needing to be online to level it up doesn't really have an effect. That sort of half-exempts it from the "should be able to level up offline" rule.

Darkwraith doesn't break the 6th rule because Kaathe is a semi-mandatory encounter through the gameplay. You don't have to play in the covenant, but you -are- invaded throughout the game and you -can- meet Kaathe without seeking out the covenant.

Brotherhood of blood, however, is a lot worse. It's optional no matter how you choose to complete the game. You can't get the items in NG without the covenant (only NG++), you can't level up the covenant offline, there's no reason to farm it if you aren't in the covenant (all you get are effigies), etc.

>>164774104
>>164774143

Wow are you serious right now. Good thing you will never develop games.

>>164773845
I actually forgot that I didn't lvl ADP on this character, good fight anyway

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What leggings would work best for this getup? I don't really want to go full mail or full plate, but I'm not sure if Elite Knight clashes too much.

>>164774338
>skinny chainmail with big bucket helmet
kek

>>164774315
Thanks for the help.
Actually, I didn't want to rush, I wanted help to clear the area before proceeding to the boss, but thanks anyway.
I guess I'll despawn those enemies after the lever, it will end being easier.

>>164774249
You have three options. Either wait patiently for it to get patched, play offline, or play unembered. Either way, stop bitching.

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>>164774481
Well yeah, those were worn together after all.

>>164773841
I'd agree with that. I haven't played DS3 so I didn't realize they don't have covenant leaders.

I think part of making the covenant mandatory to notice in normal gameplay is having those NPCs.

A boss weapon covenant would be a cool idea, like Ornifex giving you reward for collecting lord souls and upgrading boss weapons.

>>164774338
Fuck that's the getup I was going to do for my DS3 deus vult build. I was going to use Executioner Leggings and Drakeblood Gauntlets.

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>>164774492
>actually clearing that shithole
There's literally nothing interesting to loot from there

>>164774725
Wouldn't Drakeblood leave you with exposed upper arms? The only ones that cover those when wearing that body armor are Creighton's and Undead Legion, to my knowledge.

>>164774034
DS2 did it right by making the first 2 covenants you can join right at the start of the game the pussy covenant and the hardmode covenant.

The only reason DS2's way of the blue was broken was because blue sentinels were broken.

Make them not rely on eachother and make Way of the Blue the default early game co-op covenant and it would be useful. Make it easy enough to level up that by the time you reach Blue Sentinels / Darkmoon, you already have way of the blue leveled up, provided you stuck with it for most bosses.

>>164774807
Followers gauntlets and fire maiden wraps also cover your arms

>>164774679
DS3 does have covenant leaders, but only two of them are actual living beings, and only one of them can actually talk.

>>164774338
Faraam or herald leggings.

>>164774732
Frozen Outskirts is still my favorite DS level. It's pure nihilism.

>Nothing useful
>The only loot is a grim reminder that Lucatiel is dead and hollow
>random mob spawns
>oppressive blizzard

So much of dark souls is supposed to make you feel tense because of how restricted, crowded, and aimed against you the world is.

But Frozen Outskirts gives you open exploration but makes it feel somehow -more- terrifying than a structured, tight level.

>>164774919
Follower's do not, I literally tried 5 minutes ago. They leave your biceps naked.

Do I have to do yuri's side quest in order to find horrace at the smouldering lake?

>>164774891
>The only reason DS2's way of the blue was broken was because blue sentinels were broken.

it's a chicken/egg thing with the clusterfuck that is ds2 invasion covenants

I fail to see any reason why they don't just make it so becoming a blue invader isn't a pain in the ass for once and let them protect eachother, it just seems like a way to artifically inflate the number of covenants to keep it in line with previous games without actually having to do any work (where the fuck is my dragon/gravelord covenant in ds3?)

they made getting red orbs a pain in the ass until NG+, so there's less invasions, so there's less of a reason to be in way of blue and less things for sentinels to do because of that

this isn't really related but pve covenants that work like CoC are also a horrible idea because it has the exact opposite problem way of blue does, where it's something you have no reason to ever turn off if you're going to use it at all

>>164775127
No

>>164775117
>random mob spawns
They're not random though. Someone's even mapped them out.
You also get the best ring in the game from that area.

>>164775126
Sorry mate I could have sworn it was the same length as the abyss watchers gloves

>>164774338
Silver knight, Lothric Knight, Black Iron unless you wanna look like a pussy knight wearing normal boots

>undead match
>win
>point down
>stalk dung pie

Feels good man.

>>164774934
DS3 covenants sure where disappointing.
>Invasion covenant isn't required to invade infinitely, and gives you practically nothing for doing it.
>Two Blue Sentinel covenants, even though they are literally the exact same thing, down to the Way of the Blue not having a leader and needing to turn stuff in to the Darkmoon leader.
>Two territorial covenants, though only one ever sees action.
>Typical Sun covenant, but garbage rewards that you can't even claim till nearly the end of the game unless you cheese Dancer early.
>Mound-Makers.

will dlc2 save it

>>164776173
no, but the important thing is it'll end it

>>164776032
>>Two territorial covenants, though only one ever sees action.
Both see enough action, desu lad

>>164776173
>Implying it needs to be saved

>>164776032
>Invasion covenant isn't required to invade infinitely
That is a good thing.

>want to invade in 2
>your orbs are held hostage by duel cancer or ascetic farming
>want to invade in 1
>have to leave your covenant (meaning you'll lose half the rewards of some) and be a darkwraith since there's no way to get more than 10 crackeds if you don't join darkwraiths or return to it every 99 invasions

>>164776407
Wish fingers had something cool though. As it is, there is no reason to put on that emblem.

>>164776407
>That is a good thing.
Then why does the covenant exist? inb4 muh roleplay

Why did FROM remove the blue eye orb?

Question for you guys:

In my eyes, the things that make souls games worth playing are:
>Customizable combat mechanics (like a mech or sim game)
>Integrated PvP/Covenants
>Unique Atmosphere and the way they integrate Lore

Everything else is done by other games, usually better. To me, those three things are what makes it stand out as a unique game.

So my question is: Would you still play the games if it only had one of those things? If so, which one?

I've always loved Dark souls for the combat mechanics, the other two, to me, are just bonuses. I would play a dark souls game with shit atmosphere and no multiplayer if it had the same really complex customization and combat.

>>164776773
Because they removed Sin.

Conspiracy theory: From is delaying DS3's DLC because they know it will be a long time (mid-late 2018) until their next game release, and they want to keep hype for the company up as long as possible before that delay.

>>164776032
>Two territorial covenants, though only one ever sees action.
the fuck
they both see a shitload of action

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wtf I love DS2 now

>>164776829
Souls game are essentially 3D metroidvanias with PvP so yeah.

>>164776829
You could remove the online functions entirely and I would get pretty much the same amount of enjoyment out of these games, minus a sideshow that goes from fun to boring after about 3 hours

>>164776640
>>164776743
I'm not saying fingers are good, I'm saying allowing everyone to invade easily is. I'd prefer something like 1's system if enemies could drop orbs, or if 2's farming methods were faster, but as it is now, 3's returns to DeS, allowing non twinks to invade earlier and not forcing you to do anything to earn invasions once you beat an early miniboss once

>>164777089
>posting the same webm in every thread
here is your (you)

>>164777097
>metroidvanias

They're Ocarina of Time gameplay + Armored Core mechanics and storytelling.

The atmosphere is also ripped entirely from Berserk.

>>164777237

I just saw it on a /v/ webm thread, never had seen it here before

Also fuck you everyone spams the same shitty boring webms over and over, that one at least is cool

>>164777054
That seems pretty stupid, it would be totally unnecessary and there would be hype and interest in anything new they were going to release.

>>164776829
There are games that do better customization than souls, the issue is that they're mostly not 3D/real time, but building a character in Souls isn't as interesting as one in a roguelike or RPG. They're often as imbalanced as Souls which is a plus

I'm only sticking around for invasion/coop fuckery, the only other game with a similar system I saw was some FPS and I'm not a fan of the genre. If whatever next spiritual sequel they make lacks this, or neuters it more than BB did, then I'll probably lose interest

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>use red soapstone and get summoned
>put on obscuring ring
>walk around the corner
>3 gankers waiting for me
>nah, fuck that
>pelt the host with a dragonslayer greatarrow and run away
>they look around but for the love of christ can't find me
>they go back to their hole
>rinse and repeat

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>>164777485
>the issue is that they're mostly not 3D/real time

This is basically the main reason why Armored Core stayed relatively popular for 20 years. It's souls-style customization (or rather, Souls is AC-style customization) but taken to an extreme.

I think that Souls Fans really fall into those 3 niches though. Either they like the invasions and wouldn't play the game without them, they like the customization and play things like AC, or they like the atmosphere and play souls along with Witcher and Elder Scrolls.

>>164777424
>that seems pretty stupid

You must be new to From Software.

If it was up to you, would you patch boss / unannounced invasions?

>>164778232
I'd make them a feature but separate.

You can boss invade under certain conditions but it's annouced.
You can invade without them knowing in others ways too

>>164778232
they should be a feature of mound makers by default

>>164778232
Make them a covenant, limit them only to the bosses that are otherwise not that fun.

>>164777089
those animations.. so bad.. those textures.. so bad.. this game is so ugly

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>>164778009
>Souls game with customizable Bosses/AI when

>>164778658
Looks better than DaS1 tho

>>164776407
nah, darkwraith to use red orb was a good mechanic

>have to leave your covenant (meaning you'll lose half the rewards of some)
none of this shit matters except if you're using DMB for some reason and really want to level it up, everything else lets you keep the rewards you've already earned and it makes for an interesting covenant interplay where you have to go from the covenant that gets you humanity really fast to the other ones to level it up

it's not a perfect system by any means, but it's a lot better than the later games, especially since as from makes the invasion covenant easier to get into they've also made them less and less worth it

so are us dipshit's doing anything with this game or are we waiting for the DLC

>>164776829
I play dark souls because it's the 3d castlevania we never had

the online stuff was only interesting in demons and DS1, and every game since has watered it down more and more to pander towards pve only carebears and pvp only 1v1 duel nerds, who are equally scum of the earth for opposite reasons

>>164778658
>implying From has ever made a good looking game

If you want pretty graphics, go play some cinematic game. All souls games look like shit, it's the atmosphere (sounds+lighting+level design+motion) that is good. The actual visual styles, physics, and textures are always dogshit.

>>164779291
>souls games look like shit
>lists visual things as reasons they look good

ds2 looks like a ps2 game outside of the bloom and could probably run on it just fine with a minor downgrade, especially in the boxy as fuck level design and clunky animations

besides the club sold by the hag, what is a great early game strength weapon which will last me until I get an amazing strength weapon?

>>164779291
but the only game that looks better than ds3 is witcher 3

>>164779291
>says the games look like shit
>posts that lightning is good
are you mentally impaired?

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>>164779431
So does DS1.

I don't get this whole "DS2 has shit graphics" debate. DS1 hid its re-used textures by making some levels pitch black. Otherwise, they have about the same amount of low-res textures, shitty AA, low poly models, and bad lighting. DS2 just added bloom and got rid of all the awful lagging lazy effects like Sif's fur or the lava in DS1.

>>164779698
>.gif
is this 1998?

>>164779523
The use of lighting to create atmosphere is good. The actual appearance of the lighting and graphics are bad.

Like a movie that uses a low budget camera and looks like shit, but justifies it by making it part of the plot. Still looks bad, but the immersion is fine.

>>164779089
DeS's system was better.
It also hurt gravelords.
There's no issue if the full orb is only there for members, but crackeds need to be avaliable some other way. Making every player only have 10 invasions per playthrough if they don't join darkwraiths did hurt online a lot and one of the big reasons you'd never be invaded by new players during early areas like you could in DeS

>>164779831
While we are at it
>invade
>half a minute long loading screen
>disconnected from multiplayer session
>don't get shit
>orb doesn't get refunded either

>Complaining about graphics on games made for consoles first and ported to PC later

It's always microshits shitboxes fault, remember this.

Ds2 doesn't have shitty graphics, xbox 360 did.

Why aren't you watching ya boy DSP? He's going back to Dark Souls
twitch dot tv /darksydephil

>>164779698
ds1 has actual art direction hiding mediocre visuals
ds2 shows them wide open on top of having lower res textures which is especially visible on character model, armor and weapons
the fact you need to cherrypick a ds1 screenshot and compare it to ds2 promo to support your shitpost is hilarious

>>164779698
>DS1 image is a zoomed out birds eye view that you'll never see in game
>DS2 is a bullshot

are you this bored, or do you have some kind of stupid agenda?

>>164779831
you aren't really wrong, but the thing about ds1 is that invasions weren't supposed to be a super common thing like they were in DE, that's why the reward is less useful. The idea is that it's this secret thing that you have to do by ignoring the "intended" story path by doing 4kings early or somehow not instantly talking to framt after getting the lordvessel, and so you get this cool power.

You can argue if that's a good idea or if they even did it well, but it was pretty clearly supposed to be a thing that tied the player into the lore instead of just A Game Mechanic like it was in the first game.

Definitely agree there should've been more red orbs. Maybe add a bunch of orbs in the non flooded part of new londo, to hint that's where the darkwraiths are & let people get them whenever without it being right in the obvious path

>>164780174
because i literally throw up a bit every time i'm even reminded of him thanks to that retarded fapping on cam event.

thanks

>>164779831
>invade
>30 sec load screen
>kill host
>30 sec load screen
>warp back to nexus
>30 sec load screen
>kill yourself after climbing stairs for 30 sec
>30 sec load screen
>warp back to level
>30 sec load screen
>invade, repeat

Demon's Souls invasion system is shit and only Bloodborne's is worse

>>164780310
found someone who never played in bb

>>164778808
its amazing how the sequel can look worse than its predecessor

>>164779465

Mace is more fun than the Club. On my strength run, I used the Great Club until I got the Great Axe. Dropped that when I got Yhorm's Machete.

>>164779498
I think DS3 looks like dogshit for 2016. It's just a lot of blur. fog, dust, and darkness to hide some of the ugliest game design. Maybe it looks better than other 2016 games becauase everyone's using the really ugly Unreal Engine now.

It's actual gameplay graphics are on par with Last of Us, Evil Within, and Dishonored. All of which are 3-4 years old.

From has never made a good-looking game, and that's fine. It's not their niche. If you like the way dark souls looks, good for you, but don't pretend it's some graphical innovation or pretty masterpiece.

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>>164780510
>gameplay graphics

>>164769689
Spells: HSM, HCSM, Farron Hail, GFD, Flashsword, Soul Greatsword, Normal/Great Soul Arrow, Soul Spear, Crystal Soul Spear, Affinity. I like Soul Stream the most by far, but the whiff damage is garbage. I'd use it in pvp if it hit for full when you fire it locked off

Weapons: MLG, Heysel Pick, Pure Mage, Crystal Longsword, CMW Darksword.

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DSP is about to stream the first dark souls game again without any help. It would be a shame if someone invaded him.

darksydephil@twitch

>>164780310
You could just kill yourself in the level, world tendency isn't that important. I still think orbs being farmable in a convenient way afte a while should be mandatory if you don't have a full orb for free.

>>164780390
They are. Bell maidens are in way too few areas, you are invasion immune at early SLs and at non maiden areas, immune unless you ring a bell.

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>>164779498
The sight directly from the tower where you fight pus of man and get a bow. San Andreas looked better than this.

What game has the hardest areas? Ignoring bosses entirely, just area difficulty in general.

>>164780678
won't he play offline or something

>>164780510
It's not just unreal, 2016 games are mostly designed for 4k 60fps or built on engines trying to support VR. That's why they look like shit.

2012/2013 games were mostly designed on 1080p 30/60fps so they focused more on actually looking good than trying to run without blowing up consoles.

>>164780659
Gameplay graphics = excluding demos, E3 shit, cutscenes and cinematics. The graphics of the actual game during play.

>>164780746
well xbox one can't handle a few more textures and polygons so that had to be done. and you know, completely impossible to have it be something else there on PC

>>164780859
>Last of Us, Evil Within, and Dishonored
>on par with ds3

go get your eyes checked buddy

>>164780450
that's what happens when poor management is combined with mostly inexperienced team
i've read a bunch of stuff on the game development and it seems like every little thing has been thrashed over and over, and then they had to downgrade the graphics halfway through development as well

>>164780780
dark souls 2 if you don't just kite enemies because of all the enemy gangbangs

>>164780867
You have no idea what you're even talking about.

>>164781096
you're delusional if you think that sort of optimization wasn't done only because of the ps4 and xbone version

>>164780780
At peak? DS2's DLC areas. Probably Brume Tower's Iron Passage is the hardest, or Frozen Outskirts.Mostly because enemy placement is relentless and there's no gimmicks/tricks around it, you just have to slog through wave after wave of OP mobs. But the rest of the game's levels are really linear and simple, not very hard at all.

On average? DS1. It has some really annoying areas that are hard because of sadistic level design (Lost Izalith, Demon Ruins, Tomb of the Giants, Anor Londo etc.). The mobs are easy, it's just shit like the anor londo snipers that make them hard.

>>164771301
Dorkmoons can invade the guilty and Dorkmoons can be summoned to assist invading Dorkmoons.

Being a Faithful is automatically guilty.

>>164781069
ds2 enemies are so shit they can't really kill you even by gangbanging you
move around, provoke their attacks, punish

Can you Item Swap the NG+2 Rings and/or Boss Weapons in DSIII without fear of reprisal? I really want to get my Pontiff twink up and running, but I need the rings.

>>164773232
Ideal covenant seems like bellbongerbros
>Farm for chunks and slabs to keep up an inventory of strong weapons in WEAPON AT RISK Souls 2
>Chunks can be gotten at other places
>Can be leveled up to max just by AFKing
>Chunks great at even higher levels since you also get slabs
>Most players go through Belfry Sol and Luna since they have fantastic loot (Including the key that makes the boss easier)

>>164781353

You can for +2 rings. Not sure about Boss Soul items. That reddit sheet states you can get banned if you swap in ass Souls. Not sure if Boss Soul items count.

>>164781301
not with their 360 degree tracking

>>164780829

He'll be online.

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>>164781547
>Including the key that makes the boss easier
Good thing SOTFS moved it out of Luna so this entire area is now pointless and barely sees traffic.

>>164781610
Would it just be safer to transfer the items from my main to a kind anon who's available to drop them?

>>164781240
It's more likely that the PC optimization was hard for them to do because they're using BB's engine, which was optimized for PS4.

From also doesn't really know how to dev for PC, never has.

>>164781012
>inexperienced team
DS2's team probably had more total experience, but it was all console-only experience with Armored Core, a game that doesn't have exploration levels, isn't on PC, and doesn't emphasize graphics.

It's more like they started making a game with one niche team, and then halfway through development, handed it to another team that was used to completely different types of games and had to work with what the first team had started.

Tanimura knows what he's doing, but he has the exact opposite priorities as miyazaki and was forced to conform to that.

>>164781240
DaS loads up only chunks of levels with high details (the ones you are currently in and ones in close vicinity) and you're telling me because console are weaker that means they couldn't handle a pathway with high LOD that's right outside of playable area?

>>164778658

Go back to shitpost on twitter mr president

>>164769689
DaS2:
Spells:
PvE
Soul Vortex, Dark Hail, Soul Spear Barrage, Soul Greatsword.
PvP
Affinity, HCSM, Soul Shower, Soul Greatsword, Great Combustion, Outcry, Soul Shower, HHSA, Dark Dance, CSS.
Weapons:
Sanctum Shield, Sanctun Crossbow.

DaS3:
Spells:
PvE:
Hidden Body, Rapport.
PvP:
Dark Flame, Fire Surge, HCSM, Soul Greatsword, Farron Flashsword.

>>164781764

Yeah. I can help you with that.

>>164781703
this honestly doesn't mean a thing, roll away from them, don't try to rollstab them
simply bait attacks, wait till they are over and destroy them
i don't remember a single ds2 gank i couldn't destroy this way because they are all designed like shit and with enemies who are designed like shit

>>164780678
>>164780829
>>164781709
He's talking about it right now. He said that he'll turn it off if people are too OP for him.

So, like, after two deaths.

>>164781547
Good choice. Removing bastille key from the gargoyle fight makes it not really mandatory to interact with, which sucks.

Bellbros is still a great covenant though.

>>164781912

He's playing on the 360 anyway.

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>>164781709
>>164780829
>>164780678
>WOW, WHY IS EVERYONE INVADING ME WEARING THAT STUPID MASK HAWHAWHAHWH

>>164781994
Yeah, that's also a thing.
He's also a whore for high framerates, but apparently the 360 version has it worse than the PS3?

>>164778658
>>164781829

Dark Souls 2 was the worst, really the worst. We have games- look at dark souls 1, it was tremendous, these people with Dark Souls 2 is the worst. I have so many people talking, you ask them, ask these guys, they say "Dark souls 2 was bad, it was the worst". It's a problem, a tremendous problem. We got to fix this problem. They tell me "fix this!" so I'm gonna do it. We got to get rid of the game, we got to get rid of Dark Souls 2. We have to work on this, it's a tremendous problem. We're gonna make dark souls great again.

>>164782221

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ha6K5KtW3W8

Blighttown seems slightly better.

Why is the netcode in DS2 so fucking awful? 90% of the people I fight just teleport all over the place and hit me by swinging their sword halfway across the area. It's rarely this bad in the other games.

>>164771301
>>Way of Blue:
>Combined with Blue Sentinels
>>Blue Sentinels:
>Function as police officers, and protect other Sentinels
This is a pretty good idea because it'd increase the pool of people to be protected massively. I've been saying this since DS2

>Grapes function like they already do, but can summon red phantoms. Hosts being invaded by Grapes have a higher chance of being invaded by other grapes mid-invasion. Killing the host with babysitter phantoms still in world grants more shackles.
You mean you'd be able to summon red phantoms into a hosts world? I love the idea

>Like they are now, but hosts are blocked from summoning help if they are invaded by a finger, to prevent ganks
Honestly, I think invaders should generally prevent hosts from summoning. Not phantoms they already have out, but just summoning new ones. It'd prevent summoner class hosts which is generally really not fun.

I also like your darkmoon/faithful pvp idea.

Overall though something that is missing in DS3 is some sort of oddball covenant. DS1 had gravelords, DS2 had rats, DS3 has nothing with interesting different mechanics.
I always thought it'd be cool if there was a covenant that could possess a random strong enemy in the level, and I feel like this would've been possible technically, considering how people manage to do it offline with cheat engine in their own world.

>>164782540
>>164782221
360 tends to run at higher framerates for multiplat games than PS3, PS3 tends to run better for exclusives and has higher potential. PS3 is also better for having high poly models and textures, but 360 is better for rendering large areas, lighting and particle effects I think.

360 versions of Armored Core games have different lighting / particle effects than the PS3 games for that reason, to keep the framerate from crashing. Dark Souls is probably similar in terms of running better on 360.

That's because PS3 had its weird cell architecture going on, but 360 was just a standard card.

>>164780678
Will he play on the pc or the ps3? Probably ps3 but asking anyways. To be honest I'd rather invade a salty baby like Yukas and point him down than bully DSP who, despite his shittiness in games, actually puts some effort into his craft.

Overall as fun as it was, streamsniping isn't that much fun anymore because you can't really fuck with the streamers without being a hacking moron and at that point you're worse than the guy you were invading. And DeS scraping spear requires like 0 effort to ruin someone.

>>164783009
He's playing on xbox 360.

>>164782880
I'm pretty sure moundmakers are supposed to be the oddball covenant

>>164783009
The fact that DSP actually keeps up with streaming and makes it work despite the whole metal gear incident and the meme he's become, makes me think he's probably a cool guy despite being dumb as hell.

>>164769752
>Royal Dirk
One of the best PvP weapons in the game. Near unreactable dagger moveset with alright length and good counter damage. Just two-hand it and go ham with running attacks and r1s. Though black flamestone dagger has same moveset, but is longer and thus better. Just don't forget robflynn and, depending on opponent, stone ring, and chloranthy, of course. And any weapon buff.
>Any halberd
Their moveset is bad, but it's not that bad and is compensated with enormous damage. Get two mastodon halberds, infuse one into lightning, get flame weapon buff and 50 str. If opponent does not do elemental resists, use the buffed lightning one, otherwise use physical. As for your tactic, sadly you mostly gotta backpedal and attack when opponent is in range, fishing for trades, or circling for backstab, but it is possible to be aggressive with a halberd at opportune moments.
>some good unusual weapons to use in DS2 pvp.
Try 2handing sanctum shield while using affinity, dark dance, HHSA, soul greatsword, heavenly thunder, dark fog and dark orb on a 40 int 30 fail build. It doesn't do much damage with spells, but it's compensated by being able to hit opponent with your shield, safely and for great damage. You should alternate between hitting and casting.

>>164783149
Maybe, but they failed spectacularily. They're just regular invaders who have an easier time getting their item.

>>164782540
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WkX9PyXQzqM
>xbone version is shit too
wow microsoft great emulating capabilities right here

>>164781776
Well, technically BB's / DS3's engine is a heavily modified DeS engine.

>>164776407
Seriously anyone who hates DS3 for allowing everyone to invade people infinitely like DeS is delusional. DaS2 had shit pvp because there were no invasions because lul no red orb.

>>164783194
He's a cool guy, but he's also a genuine retard at times and really does thing's he shouldn't.

Basically he's a human being.

>>164783194
DSP is a thoroughly unlikeable character but he's probably gotten more people into soulsborne than any of the other "pillars"

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Is anybody else seeing mound makers entering and fucking around in boss rooms while host fights the boss? It's happened to me like 4 times in a row today.

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Anyone wanna train me or train together on PvP?
Im performing really bad and really want to git gud

>>164783803
Yea, there's a glitch and a bunch of souls streamers have been abusing it.

>>164781883
Ah, thanks a lot. Red sign works for dropping items, right? So I could red sign into your world, then you white sign into my alt's?

>>164783975

Yup. I'll be at High Wall. Pass: dsg. Character name: Avalynn

>>164783837
Passworded duels or soapstone? or which fucking game and platform

>>164783837
"train"
How? Just play the game. Study weapon movesets and always have a gameplan.

>>164783009
>>164780678
Is he fucking reading a guide?

>>164771301
The thing I have against the grape change is that every grape will behave like an invader, this'd already make them the only invading covenant.

Here's how I'd change the 3 non area invaders:
>sunbros
Can't hurt or be hurt by ither sunbros, doesn't matter if invading or WSS. You can invade as them to be immune to some ganks and to not hurt some other invaders.

>grapes
Cause more phantoms to spawn in the world more frequently.
The grape gets no warning of when new phantoms come, nor hear the sound. They do not know the host name and every phantom appears as if they were using untrue ring. To make up for the handicap they could get a mini foe's ring buff

>Fingers
Don't get embers from invading, but they are allowed to invade embered and lose less estus than other invaders.

I havent played in awhile, need to start fresh. Looking for some suggestions on a good PVE build, stat wise doesnt matter, ill give anything a shot

>>164784102
Actually, anon, don't worry just yet. I realized something quite bad.
I forgot to give Ludleth the Kiln before killing him
Now I have to run through NG+6 to greatwood in order to transpose both of my boss weapons

It'll be like 30 minutes, rip

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>wake up
>no thicc sliders

>>164783194
>>164783475
>>164783536
DSP is an awful person who guilt-trips his viewers into donating money into his Patreon by complaining about his personal mistakes, like buying a $250k house and new furniture then taking out two mortgages on the property.

And that's just one of his issues.

>>164784192
Ah sorry DS3 pontiff area the password is "Meat" i will put red summon sign
>>164784198
IDK im just doing same mistakes all the time

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>>164784308

Just post when you're ready.

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>>164784352

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>>164784352
Good.

>>164780258
>DS1 image is a zoomed out birds eye view that you'll never see in game
>DS2 is a bullshot
DS1 pic was taken at the stairs leading to the undead burg, you can even see them.
Are you this retarded, or do you have some kind of stupid agenda?

>>164784445
>still no mention of platform
booting up my n64 then

>>164784815
Ahh im so dumb it's PC

>>164783837
Game, Platform, SM/SL?

>>164784872
Well I'm waiting for your red sign you silly goose

>>164784947

PC - Pontif arena - SL72 - password "Meat"

>>164784743
>>164780258
I just pulled the images off google image search and tried to find whatever showed the most textures... I think the original purpose was to show that DS2's textures were not lower res than DS1's.

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Why did they drop the ball so hard in DS3?

I thought DS2 was bad when I played it, with how every armor gave you a huge ass and seemed skirt-like, but DS3 is something different entirely.

I can't be the only one who is insanely bothered by this, right?

>>164785015
It must be there switch cross region matchmaking on

>>164783837
>getting caught on rolls 4 times in a row
anon...

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>>164785064

>>164785064
Best looking sets in DS3? One of my favorites is the Undead Legion set

So what does 60fps on DS1 fuck with? 30fps is fucking rough.

>>164785424
I told you i was bad

>>164784445
Well, once you master the fundamentals you'll be able to beat most players. Learn about spacing, roll catching, trading etc.

>>164785226
that's pretty damn good, what ds1 mods are you running

>>164762840
>Hey, they killed off Ornstein for like the third time, Gwyndolin, and Quelaag's Sister. Now in the DLC Priscilla is confirmed dead.
>What makes you think any more NPCs won't get killed off?

When did the last Witch-Sister die?

>>164785482
It makes two jumps a bit difficult and makes one very irrelevant ladder bugged out if you fast slide down it.

>>164785226
the only way to compare the two games graphically is to compare the same armors or very similar areas.

DS1 quality is all over the place, a lot of areas look way worse than anything in DS2, but some areas look better than DS2's worst. You can find unflattering comparisons for both games.

>>164785481
But anon, the Undead Legion set is a Bloodborne set.

>>164785424
That was estoc right

>>164785594
>two jumps

You mean running jumps?

>>164785482
>>164785594
Oh and there's one other bug I assume is related to an unlocked framerate where you can get stuck sitting at a bonfire without a menu but this is very rare and possibly directly caused by exiting the menu quickly a certain way.

>>164785482
60fps or higher fucks with game physics. Cap to 59 and the only thing you'll have to worry about is falling out of the world by sliding down a ladder, but I'm pretty sure only one ladder in the game has that problem.

>>164785747

That happens if you turn human very quickly after sitting down at the bonfire. It's not related to 60 fps but the framerate unlocker, which you should have enabled even if you're playing at 30.

>>164785482
Don't listen to >>164785843 he's talking out of his ass. 60FPS (even as opposed to 59) does NOT fuck with the game physics, the only effects that actually do happen are the ones mentioned here
>>164785594
and here
>>164785747

Otherwise there's nothing. If you REALLY want to slide down that ladder or want to have an easy time with jumps, you can bind a hotkey to toggling 60fps midgame. It's backspace by default, but can be changed

>>164785634
Wut

>>164785481
Actually, replace the helmet with Silver Mask and it does remind me of Bloodborne fashion

>>164785670
4 rollcatches with Millwood battle axe, then it was estoc. Work on your predictability my man, don't rely so much on running attacks

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>>164785226
>>164785476
>DS1 with mods
>DS2 on a toaster
7/10 made me reply

>>164786386

It's Sohan So as you seen what should i focus on where am i doing right and wrong? Why my attacks never stagger? Why only hardly ever i can catch combos? thats kinda the reason i run attack a lot cause i can hardly ever stagger and combo. I heard weapon art of my weapon is OP but i can likely never use it and when i do it doesnt even do that much damage

>>164786105
Over 60 definitely does fuck with physics. I think I tried it at 75 or so at one point and I fell through the Parish elevator.

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going through my first SL1 run on DS1 standard version for PS3, i knew it would be pretty dead

but i didn't think it would be this dead

>>164786478
I'm comparing the armor design, not the graphics, you absolute retard

>>164784482
Got it back! I'm ready to summon you whenever you're ready

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Hail to the king /dsg/

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>>164786478
>>164786683
>Same armor set
>I'm comparing the armor design
You're comparing the graphics. And if you're comparing armor design, Alva set is proof DS2 has great armor too.

>>164786684
sign down

>>164786535
Did all twinblades get nerfed or something?

>>164786840
>you didn't actually post what you posted, I know better than you
Anon...
they're noticably different in each game. I purposedly picked the same ones for a direct comparison.

You're quoting two different people by the way, I'm >>164785476 and >>164785064

>>164786612

60 fps makes the surfaces more slippery also. You can get stuck on small ledges, similar to that one spot in the Great Hollow that does it even at 30.

>>164786956
I dont think so, ive been using sellsword for ages and they still get the job done nicely

>>164786867
>Sign timing out
Fuck you Dark Souls 3

>>164786995
>>164785476

Is it just me or does it seem like DS3 made armors look a little worse to try and make them look more like DS1?

DS2's armors look kinda bland because they were meant to combine better with each other. DS3 armors look terrible if you mix and match.

>>164787163

Let me try summoning you.

>>164787224
Sign dropped.
J'vael

>>164786995
Not trying to argue what you mean to say, I'm just saying that the actual design doesn't change, only textures and models. Basically graphics, which by the way, your DS2 samples look worse than they should.
Any reason for that?

>>164786956
Favorite/best twinblades?

>>164787359
The DS2 knight sample looks bad because of the lighting being flat, with the others having shadows. The warrior armor is fine though.

I just recently started playing the demon/dark souls series. I started in order of release. So I beat demons and just recently beat the first dark souls. Now I've been playing dark souls 2 for about 10 hours or so and it just feels like garbage and I don't understand it.

>>164787298

You mind posting the sets you dropped? Might not have some of those so I can't see any duplicates.

>>164787561
Sellsword actually they are the ones i ever used

>>164787561
Sorcerer's Twinblade.

FUCK DS3 TWINBLADES

>>164787642
It was Life Ring+3, Ring of Favor+2, Wolf Knight Leggings, Court Sorcerer Robe, Golden Bracelets, Wolnir's Crown, Propane Greatsword+1 and Greatsword of Judgement +1

>Want to use curved swords for pvp
>get parried

Even if I change the timings on my R1s, they just parry spam

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Any explanation for this yet?

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>>164787192
I definitely noticed this. Lots of armors in DS2 go well with eachother because they tried to keep the colors a little consistent on many of them. Shades of gold/brass can often be mixed and matched without a problem in DS2. It made them look a bit worse than the DS1 counterparts but it was fine imo because of the fashion souls it opened up.
Meanwhile in DS3 the actual shape of the armor, model-wise, is all kinds of fucked and proportions are really strange. I think they kind of made proportions more bloodborne-y on lots of them, which doesn't agree with the ones that were designed with normal proportions in mind.
Then they also went back to making all metals a different shade, so you can't even mix and match stuff easily.

Here's another example

>>164787359
The textures and models are a part of the design, just a different step of the process. I think it's still part of the design because it has a lot of bearing on how it actually looks ingame obviously.
>Any reason for that?
Randomly picking one the right size on google I guess

>>164787851
If they parry spam it shouldn't be too hard to backstab them

>>164787705
Sorcerer's Twinblade was amazing, looked dope with Crystal Magic Weapon also

>>164786535
You're just way too predictable, if you're far away from me you either
>do running attack
>do rolling attack
Unless you got parried before that then you somehow learn to not spam that. You also tend to empty your stamina bar too much with pointless L1 follow-ups. Your attacks do stagger but if I use weapon with hyperarmor then it's likely that only you'll get staggered.

>>164787924
The game thinks you fell on him. That's the "somebody fell on me" stagger animation.

Happens often near stairs and slopes, surprisingly more often if you're below someone

>>164787814

That was all right?

>>164787642
Thanks a ton for all this! I can finally begin boss invading the shit out of people as Pontiff's Squire.

Why was there a Darkwraith in Lothric. Why didn't they just kill it?

>>164788632
Because he was 2strong

>>164788632
He locked himself in because he threw a temper tantrum about not being able to 1v1 in invasions anymore

>>164788056
Everyone uses hyperarmor weapon tho
and even when you did weapon art just done shit damage i think it got nerfed really or buffs effect is way too much

>>164787952
It's because DS2 was made by AC designers like Tanimura, and they're used to making parts that are supposed to mix together. Miyazaki tends to make armors as unique sets and doesn't consider how they would mix. It's really obvious if you compare the Miyazaki and Tanimura AC games.

>>164769493
How do you beat the game?

>>164788632
Look around him, it's just an old armor storage room and with the kingdom gone to shit they don't need it anymore, it'd be a waste of time.
Duh.

>>164784646

>wearing armor

disappointed

>>164787952
>that crotchplate

DS3 why

>>164784646
Are these permanent in DS3? And do they show up for other people?

I want to fix my build up without speaking to rosaria but if I have to CE it every time I won't bother.

Also is there any chance this gets you banned?

are we having a degenerate fc tonight?

>>164788778
I'm using +0 weapons against you, my man. You would die in 3 hits otherwise.

>>164789330
i could host now at demon bridge or lothric castle

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>>164788095

It doesn't look the same to me.

>>164789353
Then you really have a lot of hp mine is +9 and we do equal damage. Am i improving btw?

>>164789436
make it DSII, the choice for the pvpers

>>164789439
He was blocking in the 1st webm.

>>164789439
Maybe it's because he was blocking? I could've sworn I've seen this animation fighting players lots of times before

>>164789439
your webm is right, i.e, minor stagger, like getting hit by a blighttown mosquito
the other webm is from running out of stamina while blocking

>>164789436
Nameless King Room FC When?

>>164788947
You go and kill some bosses, and then the final boss, and then interact with a bonfire or entrance to the throne.

>>164789514
I'm doing like 40-70 damage per hit depends on what shitty weapon I pull out. You still do too many running attacks to my liking. Twinswords are not the easiest weapons to use in pvp. They have a combo potential (one L1 into weapon art for instance which you never do). but things like Carthus Curved Sword or Follower's Sabre are just so much easier to play with. I would consider your overall playstyle as "predictable aggression", because I can see you wanna sit on people's faces and melt them, but you just do the same patterns every time. You should definitely improve at spacing too. Staying outside enemy range and attacking them when they're in recovery frames of their attacks is crucial when you use weapon with no hyperarmor.

>>164789330

Will Dragonsis be there?

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>>164789168
>>164789168
>>164784646

Lost Sinner on NG+ is a fucking nightmare.
Sinner herself is easy, but those pyromancer phantoms are annoying as fuck and they just can NOT stay still.
Are the other lords this horrible, too?

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Dark Souls 3: What are the extremely important quests to do? The ones with necessary quest rewards? I'm not magic, faith, or pyromancy so that narrows it

>>164791101
The Rotten has the great mighty poo moveset in NG+

>>164790379

Im using keyboard and i know i will sound just extremely stupid but im using keyboard and i dont really know all thjat r1 r2 l1 l2 stuff can you tell me the combo in keyboard controls? Im not really thinking on changing weapons cause i really love the style (another reason i dont weapon art is that ts really hard to hit and doesnt even do that much damage atm without buff)

Can the Greatsword of Judgement's WA R2 hit with the weapon AND the projectile for massive damage?
I'm trying to learn the way of the Sullyvahn and I'm trying to figure out when to 2h which weapon.

>>164791101
>whining about pyro phantoms after they got nerfed to hell
They used to have 3000 HP each.
The other lords have no NG+ differences. Well, Freja does, technically speaking.

>>164791153
None of them really have any good rewards. The most notable one would probably be the silvercat ring from Sirris but otherwise it's all just crap you'd only want if you're going for achievements/collection completion

>>164791153
sirris for cat ring
yoel+yuria for gestures and rings
hawkwood for dragonstones and a ring
leonhard for his set

>>164791218
Just go try it out

I'd assume so though, most weapon arts like that can. Even the ones you wouldn't expect to, like Morne's Rage.

>>164791218

Yes, it usually does about 500-600 damage if both hit.

>>164791243
>They used to have 3000 HP each.

I remember this. Lost Sinner herself was also nerfed, but I don't remember the specific changes. I think it was just HP and damage?

>>164791492
>>164791506
Awesome.
Time to boss invade the shit out of people.

(+2 Boss Weapons and SL50 should be fine for Pontiff right?

Trying to do some PvP stuff, reddit seems not to lie this kind of stuff

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sTHsLVvCcmY

>>164791723
Before or after pontiff?
I used to invade after pontiff, at SL60 +6 (normal) and had a ton of fun there. Lots of genuine invasions, almost exclusively actually.

Just don't go over +6 respectively +3 for boss/unique weapons because then you will exclusively get ganking faggots and fightclub tryhards.

Why do so many people wear those fucking gay sealer robes in DaS1?

They're always total fags with multiple summon butt buddies too

>>164791892
It was aimed for both the Pontiff boss fights and Aldritch.
So SL60 +3 on each Boss Weapon should be fine?

>>164791852
>denial
>hornet ringswapping
maximum shitter

Tears of Denial:

I mem it, cast it, then sit back down and re-mem my normal spells. As long as I don't teleport or otherwise zone, it sticks with me until it triggers, yeah?

>>164776284
I couldn't ride an elevator while being Aldritch Faithful. I'd get summoned halfway up and then find myself back at the bottom, like, 5 times in a row.

I forgot I was a wolfbro because I literally never got summoned.

>>164792063
Denial is countered by thorns, shown it in the end of the vid
If u let yourself get parried you deserve to die
Get good

>>164791852

You're really good! I like how you confuse people with similarly-shaped shields. That's very clever.

>>164791101
>>164791165

It's amazing how much NG+ changes the boss fights. Even Last Giant gains new moves and is generally better AI in NG+.

I feel like bonfire intensity 2 SOTFS was what DS2 was supposed to be, but between being rushed and made more casual, it was all pushed to NG+.

what is a good, relatively easily and early accessible weapon for strength builds in ds2? and for quality builds?

besides the fire longsword

>>164792021
Yea should be fine, maybe potentially stay at SL55 optimally for both. +3 is fine though, almost everyone has a weapon in range at that point.

>>164791852
Are you the one from the video? That was nice, but if you want a personal recommendation from a fellow Valorheart user, it's the following combo: the R1 roll catch true combos into a jumping attack. Normal R1 doesn't work, but if the R1 is a roll catch the damage and stun comes a bit delayed letting you get the jumping attack in if you pressed it quickly after the R1.

I tried to get into Scott Jund's King of the Keep with my Valorheart but sadly I lost to a laggy sabre after about 5 wins.

>>164792390

Great Club.

>>164792390
Mace

>>164792398
Yes I am. Gotta share some other vids if you let mw

So u mean the combo is rooling r1 into the jumping attack? did not quite get it
or u mean i should delay my attack after they roll the combo it with jumping r2?

>>164792317
>Even Last Giant gains new moves
explain pls

what does he do?

>>164792390

The regular mace can easily serve you for the entire game.

>>164792390
Millwood Axe for strength, just run through the DLC for a couple minutes once you get to cathedral.

Great Club and Great Machete are also pretty good.

There are too many good/easy to get quality weapons to list.

>>164792643
He has a bellyflop move similar to the demon of song. It might be something he only does when surrounded, also, but I've never seen him do it in NG, only NG+.

>>164791198
I'm using a controller since DS1 so I don't even know keybindings on keyboard. Basically you can do things like
>running attack the one with single blade is faster than with two by the way -> weapon art
>1 attack with both blades -> weapon art -> heavy attack with one blade or attack with both blades again if they're stupid enough to roll towards you
Anyway, don't be afraid to do pvp even if retards will point down or send hatemail. You can only get better by playing and with time you will get better. Don't do so many running attacks because people with just punish that after they see it 3 times in a row. In most cases it's better to play a little more defensive and swing after the enemy with weapon like that. You also tend to kinda mash that attack button and hit air because I'm well out of your range after the first swing.
If you like the moveset of sellsword then you can also try warden twinblades which require a different build to work properly, but are also really fun if you can land that combo and blow people up.
Never give up, get some experience, youtube guides might also help you and you'll be killing people left and right

>>164792873
He does that in both vanilla DS2 and sotfs without burning an ascetic in NG tho. Solo.

It's just rare, most people don't see it the first time around. He does it when you get some distance, actually.

>>164792642
By roll catch I mean when you for example walk up to someone and they panic roll away and you time your delayed R1 so it hits them at the end of their roll's i frames. If you're confident in the timing of your R1 and imput a jump attack at the end, they will get hit by both the R1 and the jump attack while they're stunned. The timing with Valorheart is very similar to any straight sword, it's just a bit trickier since the range is less but even top tier players mistime their rolls from time to time and you will be able to take advantage of it with a little prediction.

Can I share a bit of other my stuff here if you don't mind
Kinda throwback

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxdwdB8fSYM&t=91s

>>164791153

Helping Siegward (Rotund Onion Knight) is relatively easy to do and gives you a free titanite slab.

>>164792998
Thanks, I already learnt that catching at the end of roll helps and chains with the swordart sometimes but didn't try to learn timing, ill try later

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>tfw no sallet

It hurts...

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>Woolie is using the drake sword
>He didn't free lautrec

why am I watching this

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>>164793050
>can't even toggle out of wog
you're trying to be fancy too much tovarisch

>>164792390

Unironically the Estoc from Lenigrast.

How viable is a biw/xbow only build?

>>164794865
Depends on the game
DS1 - yes, but needs some items to be more fun
DS2 - yes, try out binoc with a crossbow, actually a lot of fun
DS3 - yes period, it's even very viable. Aim for the head always, lots of enemies have weaknesses to headshots that are really cool. Especially big ones.

For an example, did you know that in DS3, if you shoot giants in the head enough, they'll fall on their knees and need like 20 seconds to recover? Similiar with the Pontiff beasts, but you can actually riposte those while they're stunned.

>>164794865
if greatbows are allowed you can stomp the fuck out of the game with millwood greatbow alone
crossbows in ds3 are godly too
forget about normal bows though, they should've gone with simon's bowblade moveset instead of shit we got in ds3

>>164792390
Remake character until you get demon hammer from birds using the stone before witch house

FC?

>>164795028
How does the millwood greatbow compare to the other ones? Are they very different or is it just the WA?

>>164795017
What items does ds1 need? Or are you talking about rushing bows that arent shit?

>>164794703
when u miss the timing of wog already being casted there is no reason in trying to toggle out, roling before is better

>>164795132
demon bridge, pass is dsg
anyone over 120 will be downscaled

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>>164795153
>How does the millwood greatbow compare to the other ones
it blows them the FUCK out
it's a single-stat greatbow unlike other two and reaches like 600 AR
in pve enemies can get hit both by arrow itself and WA explosion so each arrow can potentially deal 1k damage even outside of headshots
WA also works without any FP, though slightly weaker and with less staggering force
explosion deals max damage regardless of distance
i'd say it's by far the best greatbow in the entire franchise, literally nothing can even approach it

>>164795361
PC?

>>164795532
yes

>>164792954
Don't lots of bosses have very rare moves that are always there but we rarely see. Like Nito had a grab that is super rare and stuff like that.

>>164795404
Huh that's weird, I always assumed the dragonslayer greatbow would do more damage than the millwood greatbow for some reason. It actually is much better.

It caps out at ~520AR at 66 str with no dex and the dragonslayer greatbow has like 420 at 40/40.

That's really strange

>>164795153
better unless you're a dexfag who can't meet the str req

though if you can't meed the req, it's actually still a tossup since the weaponart works I think

it's a single stat str weapon which is always twohanded, so it's stat efficient as hell, especially at low levels, and it easily has the best weapon art

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>>164795595

Yes.

>>164793419
>these legs

Is this character a quarian by any chances

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>>164793786
who the fuck is woolie? I had a ds2 character named that, did some streamer steal my name?

>>164795595
Not just bosses.
Did you know the turtle knights in DS2 have a low kick attack?

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>>164795850
why the fuck Kalameet has better animations than Sinh in DS2?
>that stylish as fuck evil eye telekinesis attack