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>How do I unlock\find______?
http://i.imgur.com/GQrXGRU.gif (embed)

>FAQs (How do I unlock more fighter types? Where can I find X materials?)
http://www.letitdiethegame.com/support.html
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https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/15TK7mzbxeZ-lAZMvwt-TTdKedgAMVe4c2CEva3Yv2kE/

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[AT THE MOMENT ALL "KILL EVERYTHING" QUESTS ARE BUGGED]
So are various other quests, including but not limited to brainshroom and fish gathering, Reversal Tuber mk1 killing, and killing enemies with lightning weapons.
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First!
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S N A I L D A Y
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>>164703508
Fucking dev haters forced me home in a bodybag. They are so much rage.
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Is the motorcycle good against goto?
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>>164703593
Yeah, it's blunt. But Iron Meme works faster.
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>life shroom is supposed to be that nasty snail brain parasite
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IT'S REAL SNAIL HOURS
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>>164703705
Ya mean the cordyceps from Last of Us that infects ants?
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>>164703593
It works great!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TfXUQNjqLcw
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00:00 Area Start
00:05 Area End
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>>164703834
>this video has been removed by the user
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>>164703384 Just a good ole' boy, dindu nuffin wrong!

By the way, I'm actually black.
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>>164703914
I really don't know why. It was hilarious.
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ded game
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>>164703980
because you all bullied him
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>Got reverted to platinum cos I'm a retard and there are no dev raids or diamond players to rank up
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>>164704070
Yes, the game is populated with dead characters. Astute observation
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>>164704357
At a certain point it doesn't matter. There's nothing you need SP for, and decals aren't game changing enough to get excited about.
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>>164704070
Once I can actually use the rescue tab because it hasn't already been camped by tons of people I'll believe you.
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Fucking floor 12 drop onto some pipes between two walls screamer with sniper infront of me, screamer drops down behind me with machete. RIP i have so many lifeshrooms but those cant save me from that shit. Now i gotta farm up shekels to salvage him. Shoudlve bought another gun.
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>>164704357
>grind up to diamond before I unlock t5
>get pounded back to gold by the time I can do dev raids ez without mushrooms
>time to start grinding again.
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>>164703834
aww come on, is that the video from yesterday of the guy ran off the side of GOTO room and died while rage with psycho?
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>>164704838
Yes. It was anyway.
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>start farming for the Katana and try to evolve to kill U10 and Coen
>find out to evolve it you need to kill the boss AFTER u10 and coen

I dunno what the fuck to do I cant kill u10 I dealt no damage to her last time and she killed me I even used a death metal and still died the tail is always moving how am I supposed to hit it.
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Does anyone even bother with vending machines? They give you fuck all money for the risk of how much damage you take if it's an enemy.
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OH BOY

I SURE DO LOVE EXITING AND RE-ENTERING THE FIGHTER FREEZER 100 TIMES JUST TO REFRESH THE EXPEDITION LIST SO I CAN FIND 1 PERSON WHO'S ACTAULLY IN OKUSA ONLY TO REPEAT THE SAME PROCESS 10 TIMES BECAUSE I NEED TO DO THIS FOR EVERY FIGHTER WHICH ALSO HAPPENS TO HAVE A 10-15 MINUTE GAP BETWEEN EVERY FIGHTER'S EXPEDITION TIMER BECAUSE MILK BLACK HAS A BETTER RNG THAN FINDING SOMEONE FOR OKUSA.

Being rank 70 is suffering because no one goes there
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>>164704515
>decals aren't game changing enough to get excited about.
You stand no chance of killing the jackals without getting the right decals.
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>>164704950
you don't need to evolve the weebstick to beat the bosses, I beat everything up to 40 with the first tier +4 weebstick
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>>164704515
I need KC to buy my pork choppers and armor tho. Also the salvage costs.
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Oh dear....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQIRSlCrtnk

You just stay in the elevator, slowly turning in circles.
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>>164705013

I'll go there for you, anon. I always manually farm it anyway. Keep refreshing and don't give up!
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>>164704996
I only bother when I'm running with my lucky star in the 20s.

Protip: You can perfect block some attacks depending on the weapon.
Protip: You can dodge out of the way of most of the attacks if you are fast enough.

There's very little risk.
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>>164704950
Invis shroom and hit the tail tip.
Believe in the power of mushrooms!
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>>164704996
>They give you fuck all money for the risk of how much damage you take if it's an enemy.

If you hold the block button after punching it you will block the attack. Still worthless though because the enemies that come out of it do not drop any gold.
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Whens snail start?
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>>164705069
There are multiple effective setups for jackal killing. The decals help by reducing the amount of mushrooms you need.
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>>164705247
-0:55 minutes.
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>>164705289
>There are multiple effective setups for jackal killing.
All of which require specific decals.
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>>164705190
I just hold the block button as soon as I press X, sometimes it works but sometimes I get knocked down. Is it random?
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When there's a golden chest, is it always a trap?
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>>164705610
Yes.
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>>164705289
So what are some of them?
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>>164705389
So the most efficient way is to send all your guys to Okuso on 1hr exps as well as go there yourself?
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>>164705503
Yes, and by the time you play the game for a while you'll have what you need for at least one proven method. KC becomes kind of silly.

>>164705515
It depends on the weapon and where in the vending machine they spawn. If you can see them poking out the front of it, it's safe to say they're way too close and you'll get hit no matter what.
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>>164705695
ye babe
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>>164705653

Figures. Only found a couple so far, but I'm about to begin leveling my collector and striker for tower runs. I want every last BP as I ascend.
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sorry i'm late

ded game
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who only make female characters?
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>>164705695
The truly effective way is to send all of your fighters with the highest luck on 1 hour expeditions to Okusa. Then run yourself. If you're running on a character that needs to level you can just shoot the snails in seconds and haul ass for speedier farming.
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>>164703508
top fucking kek
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>>164705815
I have the remedy for people like you.
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>>164706105

Prepare to be violated.
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>>164705219
>If you hold the block button after punching it you will block the attack.
I tried that several times and never had any success with it.
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Guys just so you know Treasure hunter is invaluable because it tells you where jackals spawn
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>>164706105
SAY IT WITH ME NOW

BIG
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>>164706591
How do you get it? Mushroom stews?
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>happily collecting my snails in f13
>hear the Jackal siren
Got dammit give me some peace
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>>164706591
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>>164706692
Guy
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I forgot, which one is more suitable fot DPS, skill master or striker?
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>talk shit in my head about a guy who has double rapier defenders that are piss-easy to counter
>last dude is a full night scout set kamas motherfucker
>framerate as choppy as he appears
>fuck up all the dodges I do and get destroyed
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SILVER
SKILLSHROOMS
WHEREEEEEEE
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>>164707081

COEN drops them.
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>>164706105
BLACKED
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Where's the BRONZE shrooms at? Seen so many golds from expeds but barely any silver or bronze
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>>164706734
yeah
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>>164706436
I'm breaking into your house right now and stealing all your SPL and KC.
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>>164707536

Go ahead. There's more where that came from. I'm only a few floors in. I'm also not the female-only Senpai you originally called out.
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>>164706931
Nailgun and assault rifle is the new defender meta because they slow down the attackers the most.
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Gonna need this thread to bump more so I have something to read while I grind masteries in Heimo-jima. Escalator loads are killing me.
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>>164706734
Beat the game and buy with gold shrooms
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>man this is pretty hairy I should get back to an elevator
>well... one more room I can probably make it
>suddenly I'm 6 rooms from the nearest lift
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>>164707930
I just put on my japanese erotic audio and rub my dick through my pants as uncle death pushes wood.
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If God was real then all boss farming would be as easy and simple as 11f Goto-9.
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>>164707920
Yeah, nailgun + rapier is the most annoying combo i've encountered so far.
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>Obtain two shiny snails
>3rd snail gets hit but doesn't fall
>Tossed animal glitches into wall and becomes unobtainable
>Find mouse
>It just pushed him further onto the ledge
>Mouse fucks off into the fire and the flames

Worse than a crane game desu.
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>>164708128
On yesterday (Counting each Let It Die day starting at 7PM EST)'s rotation, the 30s version of GOTO-9 was right next to the elevator.
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>>164708128
Bosses would always drop their metal.

Or at least never gold.

Mother fucker it takes me 4440 to get there and 4440 to get back, you think 1500 is some sort of reward? I'm in debt you piece of shit Goto!
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>>164708128
I feel like there is zero reason for bosses and chest not drop the apropriate metal 100% of the time apart from annoying the shit out of you.
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>>164706105
I giggled, thank you.
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>>164708128
GOTO is the easiest boss to farm on every tier he's in.

GOTO 11 is on the floor with the elevator, all that can possibly be in your way is a single hater.

GOTO 23 is right next to the elevator, nothing at all in your way

GOTO 36 is down an area from the Hiromatsuelevator, but the run to the escalator from the elevator, and from the escalator to the boss is guaranteed free - so all that stands in your way is a loading screen.

JIN-DIE on the other hand just gets worse and worse to get to as you go up in floors, though at least she's always around.
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>>164706105
he's sexy
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>>164708525
This. I feel in the future candol wolf gear will be belittled because it is the easiest to grind.

>Nice gear fag how long it take you to get that? A week!? 1week lmao
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>No way to get to Uchinobu without killing either Coen or U-10
>No way to get to the next elevator from Togose without killing at least two midbosses
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>>164705815
There are only 4 good females and 6 good males, so that's how I have them.
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>>164708525
Uuuuugh. Really want some war ensemble red to upgrade my magnum 3* but I always run out of stuff halfway there. It's deceptively long.
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Does anyone else have a glitch where sometimes their camera is stuck too close to their character? It's fucking claustrophobic.
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>>164705815
I have one girl because I feel like a nasty fetishist just having a tank full of sexy men.

But I only care about like 3 of the male fighters so.
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>>164708725
Just doing what I do best, "educating" the white women.
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>>164705197
>mfw almost every endgame strategy I hear from this general is using transparaguses
is the game just that bad when it comes to bosses?
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>>164708793
It already is. People hating on Sengoku.
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>>164709153
The bosses are all cheap and pretty much strategy-less yes.

I consider climbing the tower more of a feat than beating any of the bosses.
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>F40-50 greek gods theme
>F50-60 underwater theme
>F60-70 jungle theme
>F70-80 ghosts, just ghosts
>F80-90 future theme
>F90-100 gladiator theme
>F100 Pvp battle to decide king of the tower, no shrooms allowed, fox only, final destination

ye or ne?
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>>164709153
No. It's just that one hit could take half, all, or double of your health from a boss. Mushrooms helps alleviate any possibility of making a mistake.
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Fastest route from waiting room to okusa after shortcut unlock?
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>>164709153
You can handle everything with guard+sting. I would only use transparungus on the last boss. I'm just stockpiling it now as I have no need to farm him.
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>>164709291
>F100 Pvp battle to decide king of the tower, no shrooms allowed, fox only, final destination
>one faggot camps with 6 maxed out sniper rifles

hell yes, but it sadly won't be a thing probably.
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Are your expedition targets limited by tier of your fighters?
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Alright I did it
2x giant killer
2x Raging bull
2x bull
2x super alloy
1x serial killer
gold oakshroom
gold stingshroom
and a crit

VS

Jackal X

RESULT


247,382
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>>164709763
Don't they only have 100k hp?
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>>164708973
Yes.
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I just want to go home, pls. I'm out of everything and under leveled.
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>>164709623
I hope fucking not because otherwise tier 2 move your asses to Okusa
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>>164709870
yea i've killed them (in one shot) before
but i just had to see what was possible
also it was a +4 5star weebstick
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>>164709902

Die and pay to salvage your fighter.
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>>164709902
Thanks anon, I was just considering taking that path. Now I know not to do so before killing GOTO.
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At what point do you get Tier 4?
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>>164706105
I didn't even know you can name your character.
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>>164710325
Floor 25 I think.
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The entire 30s is a fuckfest of level design traps. Wakaba is the core of it- you derp around there and you find yourself with NO WAY OUT but to fight a boss. No weapons left? Only way out is a long way down.
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Which fighter is the banshee ?!
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>>164710716
Out of the 8 female fighters, she's the third from the left. Dark hair, pulled back tight. Small bun sort of thing on the back of her head. Not a ponytail.
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Still nobody farming Okusa in the expeditions.

Protip, send your expeds after one guy. You are guaranteed all but one of them wiill "Draw" because he'll only have to fight one.
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>>164710716
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Senpais, how many scratch and hovering metals do you need to upgrade everything? I only have 130 space in storage and I need to know what I can drop and what I should, for the snails
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Knight anonn here

WHY THE FUCK DOESNT THE KNIGHT SET HAVE A RANK 5?

I FUCKING LOOKED FORWARD TO ITS NEXT EVOLUTION AND THIS IS WHAT I GET? A FUCKING MEDIEVAL VERSION OF LU BU?

I love it, dont change it
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>>164709763
Whatr's up with raging bull and bull in everyon's build again? doesnt it only activate at 15% or less health?
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>>164711094
Nothing has more than 3 forms. As it turns out from the defense values Knight ends up better than most armor.
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>>164711094
Wut? Post pics.
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I heard there is a route you can do with Okuso where there is a gold chest somewhere? Anyone can confirm this?
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>>164711094

Knight anon, how can a newbie learn to be like you?
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>>164711094
Only shit that starts off at 3 stars gets 5 star versions.
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>Mid bosses can drop KC
Why
They don't even drop an appreciable amount, only about as much as you get from a normal enemy on their floor
It just seems like a backhanded way of lengthening the amount of time you spend grinding by diluting the pool of drops
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>>164711220
It's in Nokijiri but it does not appear on the rotation with the golden snails.
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>>164711220
Nope, the fastest route goes through Nokejiri which normally has a gold chest, but doesn't on the Okusa rotation.
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>>164711193
Which one is the best tho?
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>>164711336
The difference between most fully maxed out sets is negligible. Whatever you think looks coolest is the best.
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>>164711235
Be a good christian
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>>164711373
But which one has the highest stats then?
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>>164711451

But sin is so fun!
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>>164711373
Yet here we are with no clue about how each set looks at max level....
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>>164711562
Don't know. Don't care. Considering the amount of time I would have to invest to build up a different set of armor to maximum for a very VERY minor increase in defense, it's not fucking worth it at all.
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>>164711597
HEATHEN!
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>>164711714

B-but senpai. ='(
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>>164711665
I thought upgrading gear was about improving its durability more than the actual stats.
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>>164711597
>>164711714
Any human can sin, you can be a Christian and still sin. Just try to keep them as close to zero as possible, like golf. Speaking about golf, Uncle Death's Golf Club is SICK
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>>164711776
1 star +0 trash takes the same amount of total hits as 5 star +4 before breaking.
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>>164711301
>>164711319
oh shit, thanks.
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>>164710893
>>164710809
>>164710716
Best girl.
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I'd fucking kill for the option to have a semitransparent mini-map just under your health
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>>164703638
>Fully upgraded Rank 2 Iron destroys Floor 11 GOTO
>think it will do the same with Floor 23 GOTO
>So what do you think of our insurance offer now? X3

I was so wrong. I need to turn it into a Rank 3 weapon pronto.
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>>164711843
Yeah but you're comparing different tiers and one of them is bugged at that.
Compare 1 star +0 with 1 star +4.
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Here it is, sorry for lazy screenshot

and totally ignore the blood in my freezer
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>>164711953
There's a lot of stuff I want. More accurate floor map for one. It would be nice to know whether something is locked from the inside or the outside before wasting 4 minutes.
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>>164712103
Allow me to rephrase.

All armor pieces (of the same type, helmet, chest, legs) last the same amount of total hits regardless of rarity or upgrade level.
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>>164712216
Upgrade level increases the durability loss stat though
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>>164712114
Eh, doesn't look all that interesting, desu. Better than sengoku or paladin tho, those are just trash.
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Are two death burner irons + 4 stingshrooms/4 guardshrooms/4 invis shrooms enough for the U-10 + Coen climb?
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>>164712114
damn, that looks pretty cool
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>>164712361
probably overkill

just dont bother killing anything on the way
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Guys, seriously, stop sending armed haters to Okusa. It's a dick move.
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Green DOD metal, where?
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>>164712351
By one degree and that usually occurs at +1. It would be nice if +4s got another bump, but no.
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>>164712043
For floor 23 GOTO a good tip is to take like 2 or 3 rank 3 weapons dropped by the enemies in the area. I got one slow motion mushroom, a couple rage shrooms to have a full rage bar, and two rank 3 Axes i picked up off random enemies aroudn the area. Then i raged twice with some stingshroom damage boost and a couple damage based decals.
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>>164712476
Only in gold chests.
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>>164712476
buy it from the floor 10-20 shop dude.
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>>164712438
Sending my dual wielding jackal blaster haters there now.
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>>164704070
>1,000,000 players
>ded
?
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>>164712043
You're not using shrooms for a boss that isn't trivial for you yet? That'd be your mistake.
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>>164712714
I feel like it's just someone trying to piss you off. "ded general" or some bullshit. It's not "ded" at all.
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>miss my jump and the fall damage scores a crit
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>Fighting GOTO 34F for the first time
>Prepared well, got a 5* katana from a hater that I repaired and held onto
>Get him down to eating mode with other weapons
>Eat stingshroom, oakshroom, throw stingshroom
>Switch to the 5* katana and use the rage move when he's stunned
>Instantly wipes out the rest of his health
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>>164712043
This. The power gap between different version of the same boss is huge. They also get more movesets.
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>>164712476
Trap room in Nojekiri. It's a 1/4 chance, though, you'll get other green metals too.
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>>164712792
>pants break
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>>164712845
also current rotation doesnt have a chest in nojekiri. Only way i think right now is the store.
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ugh, how do I always seem to go back to 330/300 after clearing so much out?
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>Can't be assed to wait for Okusa for all fighters
>Send level 1 grade-1 naked fighter after lvl 100 on f26
>The fighter won

How. Why.
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>>164712824
Coen is 34. Goto is 36.
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>>164713062
Just because the host lost doesn't mean your hunter was responsible. They could have died to screamers.
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>>164713145
Makes sense. I can't fathom how the hunter delivered the killing blow.
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who else is rocking the killer luchador mask? i wanna see what this looks like fully upgraded
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>>164712679
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I wasn't paying attention and walked into Jin Die on floor 16 with no healing items, 80% full health, a near broken butterfly knife, no useful shrooms and 3 blueprints. Oh yeah and I just hit the level cap with this tier 2 less like 30 minutes ago. I used a death medal thinking I could get some damage in. I'm just gonna forget about that character since I just unlocked tier 3
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>>164712438
I just have Ninja+Judge's Gavel and some general dmg+decals with some tear gas shrooms.
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>>164712438
>Not stuffing your bag full of shrooms for a treasure trove of kc, splithium, exp and golden snails

This is practically Christmas all over again Senpai.
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>>164713069
GOTO 36 then, yes.
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>>164713767
>want to remake all of my fighters into the screamer
>realize doing so would fully max out my SP storage and paint a bullseye on my TDM rank
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>>164713575
the BPs are kinda nice. I'd just hang on to the salvage until you work the money up to get the character back. You'll also get the KC they had when you salvage as well. It's even Snail day so working up the money will be fucking cake.
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Oh theres landmines
Is there anyway to disable them?
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>>164714217
walk close
walk away
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>>164714217
Don't step on them for a start.
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>>164714217
>turn 360 degrees
>walk away
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>>164713941
It's a vicious cycle, and we're all either sadists, masochists and/or goys.
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So I've been refreshing for Okusa for at least 20 minutes straight and none have popped up yet. Farming 1F is probably more efficient than this
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I have been 4 times taking a trip to okusa by electric raipier people. I think im done collecting snails for this week lol
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What weapons use scratch, hovering and bone metals? I got heaps of those but not much seems to use it for upgrading. It's crowding my storage. Which ones can I sell? I'm up to F26.
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>>164714389
I always kill them. I believe they get less chance of rewards if they die?
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>>164714530
No they killed me 4 times. So im sure they will get great rewards. I am jsut done farming shrooms after dying 4 times to them. each hit i gave them was about 4% health damage. And it was always a one hit kill. Okusa is a death trap. No wonder no one goes there.
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>>164714527
Definitely don't sell them, you should rid your storage of common materials look wood, iron and copper first if you really need the space
A bunch of weapons and armor need them, and they're rare enough to be a pain in the ass to get when you run out
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>>164711119
yea but transparagus makes sure youre never hit
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>>164714103
What is snail day
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>>164714343
but then you'd still end up walking into them genius
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What's the quickest place to look for Gyakufunsha in the War Ensemble floors?
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>>164715017

I want to know as well
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>>164715006
That's what I am saying. Raging bull activates when near death. Why do people keep suggesting raging bull when attacking Jackels or defense people.
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Uhhhh so DOD arms red metal. I need a lot.

Can I beat 34f COEN with a T4?
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>>164715017
>>164715168
a tower roatation that has 3 golden snails on Okusa F13. they give 4.5k exp
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>>164715273
You can beat him as anyone if you deal above 0 damage. It just requires more time and getting gud
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>>164715258
are you retarded? you activate it BEFORE fighting them
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>>164715273
Ye, just be careful.
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>>164715350
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNr0WXQ3Ho4
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bout to run for my fucking life senpais

wish me luck
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>>164711220
no, i belive there is no gold chest on nokejiri when okusa is live right?
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i just beat coen and its not letting me advance

wat do
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>>164715367
Why not legendary hero then? It's the same as raging bull except you are at full health. Why get down to 15% health to get 60% damage when you can be at 100% health with 60% damage?

Calm down, that anger can't be good for your relationships and friendships long term :/
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>>164715737
did you kill "GET SOME"?
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>>164715737
Wait for the game to finish downloading.
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>>164715309
Do you reach it from Nokejiri?
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>>164716075
you have to go down from kaga first
then you can go through noke
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>>164716014
who is he exactly
i even unlocked the second path but even that path is "not ready" yet
same with the train guy for the online pvp thing

>>164716068
theres nothing on my downloading queue but i think ill double check
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>>164715796
First of all, Legendary Hero only gives you 30% increase at full health not 60%. Also, there's only a Premium version so you're already losing a 30% damage stack.

2 Bulls + 2 Raging Bulls = 180% increase
2 Superhero + Legendary Hero = 60% increase

It's pretty clear to see what's the better option at that point.
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>>164715659
Best of luck to your dickhole.
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>>164716193
Go to your library, press options on Let It Die and go down to Information.
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Which one should i build? kamas rank 4 or upgrade machete rank 4?

also, is attacker better than a shooter when it comes to guns?
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>>164716193
Go to your dashboard and while hovering over the game press the options button.

Then go to information.

There will be a secion that says download status and thats the REAL full game.
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>>164716352
Oh i thought legendary hero eventually had a regular version before it.

Also isn't 2 Bulls + 2 Raging Bulls = 90%?
I am probably misreading the descriptions. Thank you.
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>>164715032
Pls, respond.
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Is there a better way to farm bullet metal than the 2 in f23 echizen-jima somewhere?
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>Prepare a lot for floor 16
>Lvl 70 Collector with Tank Tattoo
>Machete Tier 2 +4 Full Mastery
>Rifle +4 Full Mastery
>Dark Ryback Set +3
>Start fight
>Get puked 3 times in a row into a corner
>Rage revive
>All equipment is now broken
>Get puked again and get thrown downstairs
>Die
>Instarevive
>Get puked again
>Die
Hold me anons, what did I do to deserve this?
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>>164716808
Bull is 30% increase under 15%
Raging Bull is 60% under 15%

Stacking Premium/Non-Premium of each gives you 180%.

>>164716882
Floor 6 Mekaroku-Go has 3 near an escalator.
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>>164716960
because you're a shitter who doesnt know how to deal with jindie and her beam of love
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>>164716352
back to my original post ~250,000 seems really small considering i was doing 100,000 with no serial killer and no gold mushrooms
any ideas why my damage was so low?
i still do about 100,000 without crits without normal shrooms so the decals are definitely better
but a crit should be doing like 4x more with the gold mushrooms alone
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>>164716845
Look for dead ends in the side floors. If it isn't on the floor with a dead end then look for the other one. Each 10 floors seem to have 2 dead ends where he can spawn at random. ( usually he seems to spawn there the first time regardless and if you leave to the waiting room he will sometimes change locations.
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>>164716960
>Prepare a lot for floor 16
>dying

Did "preparing a lot" not include a single transparungus?
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>>164717007
I'll check out Meka then, appreciate it.
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>see weird tuber around on a motorcycle
>huh, must be a treasure tuber
>it clips on a corner
>hit it and it almost dies, seems to fall on the corner
>try to kill it
>nothing hits
>no stomp prompt
>it explodes in my face

Glad to know I'll never see another one again to have the chance of killing it without it glitching. This is horse shit.
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>>164717104
Yeah, I know how it works, I wonder if somebody knows the fastest place to check and reset and check again for the shop.
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>>164717104
30s only have two spawns
haratsuka and uchinobu neither of which are dead ends
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>>164716960
Use a shroom to increase attack and press L2/R2 with iron then mash L1/R2 with iron until dead. She wont even get a single attack off.
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>>164716960
use the cheese spots, the roof on the left you can crouch on and she literally can't see you unless she teleports to the roof that makes her vulnerable to you. Jin-Die 16 is probably the most BS of the bosses in terms of arena design and boss mechanics. (other bosses are BS because they are gearchecks moreso than their arena being challenging)
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>>164717226
... its random

look on your own map
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Is there any reason a 4x bull Defender wouldn't be a great general fighter, with the power of an attacker but better survivability?
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>>164716960
>Level 73 Striker
>Jungle Machete E +4
>Naked
>Rage Move JIN DIE to death without any problems
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>>164717215
What makes you think it glitched?
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>>164717007
>>164717089
Is the buff multiplicative and not addative? Not sure if anyone has confirmed one way or another or if its specific to each sticker type.

I feel like one way to test it is to have a premium and non premium Marathon Runner that are both 50% decrease in stamina and fatigue time whihc would add up to 100% so you would never be tired from running. Or would that jsut end up at 75%
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>>164717286
Not really, I think Haratsuka always can spawn one, for example.
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>>164717307
thats a lot of space that could be better distributed on more useful decals
bulls are better for doing a lot of damage one time really fast
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>>164717180
I've only found one to this day...

>>164717257
>>164717273
I've already killed her, but goddamn, what are the odds of getting buttblasted like that, it literally drained all my armor with a 3 puke combo

>>164717317
Fellsgoodman by proxy
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Was snail day canceled? I don't even see the floor on my map now
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>>164717180
Guns are useless against JinDie on floor 16. I fought her with a +4 sniper rifle on a maxed out DEX T4 Shooter and was doing 10% damage to her and the assault rifle +4 was doing like 2% damage per bullet almost. With jin die you have to go melee or close range or something. The Red Hot Iron fucks her up.
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>>164717723
As a rule, anything that uses guns or war ensemble gear is weak to slash attacks.
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>>164717450
>bulls are better for doing a lot of damage one time really fast
They buff your defence too, though. So with a Defender's high HP and defence, wouldn't bulls make up for his poor attack while improving his defence enough to make up for staying below 15% HP?
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>>164717925
Why, though? Just stack attack. Bulls are for fighting jackals not exploring.
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>Goto drops red 5/6 times just when I needed her most

Thank fucking god.
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>>164718070
your gonna need a lot more then that
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>>164718070
why is this picture so annoying?
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is kawabe still the best way to get milk black?
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Is there a point to have anything other than a striker as your main?
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>>164716960
Upgrade the iron to Tier2+4 instead and eat a crushshroom she will go down in 10 seconds
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>>164718212
You are a hateful person who still thinks its cool to be apathetic and sarcastic so the anger and sadness form people pushing you away from being so negative eventually made you hate anything that looks remotely like someone you once liked?
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>>164718067
Is there anything to stack attack better than 60%?
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>>164717925
so assuming decals are multiplicative
.15*1.6*1.6*1.3*1.3 =64% more defense
(which i'm not even sure how works but lets assume that makes 64% more hp)
for bulls

tank+tank+3star tank is 2x hp with only 3 decals
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>>164718385
i think you have projection issues
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>>164718285
>main
One day you will have to let it die anon
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>>164718206
I needed the 5 for my final upgrade for my final piece of armor.
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>>164718386
serial killer with 100% and oneshot one kill with 70%
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>>164717627
OK it's back again.. Weird.
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>>164718532
Oh, I do. Meaning the one that is actually in the tower, rather than the 8 odd storage mules.
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>>164718597
Sometimes the map does that.
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>>164718454
>tank+tank+3star tank is 2x hp with only 3 decals
But with no attack bonus.
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>>164718385
THAT PROJECTION
AND NO IM NOT THE SAME GUY BUT DAMN
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I've got 6 grilled crushrooms to stack for myself, and 2 grilled stingshrooms to throw for GOTO on 23
Wish me luck, senpai!
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>>164718846
THIS MUST BE THE WORK OF AN ENEMY STAND
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>>164718285
It depends on where you are in the game.
Honestly, there is little reason to not use a Collector when you start and actually have a need for basic upgrade materials and new blueprints.

And then once you get around F20, you may as well have a Lucky Star for wandering about the tower and getting more coins.

Other than that, yeah sure. Strikers fit an always present niche.
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>>164718795
ok then its the same net attack bonus assuming you're at every hp point for the same amount of time (which you won't be)
64% then just one one shot one kill or serial killer is better than the attack bonus
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How do you get the gold snails? They are on the walls
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>>164719232
Hit them man. The fuck?
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>>164718882
>thought I had 2 stingshrooms
>didn't when I needed another one
>GOTO dodges my rage move and kills me
The fat fuck shoulnd't move that fast, what the fuck gungho
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>>164718998
>>164718454

>>164718795
also do you see how many assumptions you have to make for this to make sense?
what if damage values are calculated before the bulls activate so if something deals damage equal to 20% of your health it might just kill you leaving 4 skill decals completely useless.
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>>164719453
>what if damage values are calculated before the bulls activate
That would be the same as them having no effect at all. Are you retarded?
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>>164719324
I can't reach that high and there is a fire on the ground
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>when someone on your revenge list is in Okusa
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>>164719232
throw a living anmimammal on them and they will flal down
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>>164719660
anon please tell me you aren't drinking and playing this game at the same time, it isn't worth the added risk
>>
PSA- want an easy war ensemble red? Take the "Equip poison weapon and kill 60 enemies."

Then just go from ikegara and work your way up. I'm only at tamata and i'm at 23
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>>164719925
I can do whatever I want I made it to floor 41
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>>164720029
ah, carry on then
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>>164719643
>there is a fire on the ground
We can't fix it, ti's fucked.
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>>164715273
Yeah sure
If possible, try and scavenge a pitching machine off somebody, get a stingshroom, dragonshroom and guardshroom, and you should be able to take him down with little effort
>>
Why can't I buy mushrooms from the mushroom lady?!
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>first time fighting U-10
>bring katana 3* +4 guardshrooms and invis shrooms
>it's dead in under 15 seconds
literally getting to the boss was 10 times harder
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So is chart-sama still adding finds to the resource chart or is it finally finished?
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>>164719232
see>>164708353
Try to use something that won't BANZAI itself into the fire, like a crab, pillbug, or a fish.
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>>164720158
she loves mushrooms, why would she sell away her own?
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>>164719653
>when everyone on your revenge list is AFK in the waiting room
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>>164720208
go kill the final boss ur ready
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>>164720158
Because she doesn't like queers. Plain and simple.
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>>164720417
>When someone gets revenge on you, but you emptied your tanks and they paid more than they earned
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>The Mushroom girl could give me a decal that ensures boss metal drop on each killl but nah, discount decals are more useful.

What do you even do with all my kill coins anyway?
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>>164720690
You dirty rat bastard. so it was you?
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>>164720728
>puts them in little cases and runs around tower throwing them willy nilly
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Who are the fuckers that keep sending hunters to areas around Okusa. I had 3 golden snails but then this jimmy rustler appears as I accidentally drop kick an escalator, dizzies me with one hit and does a goretical
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>>164720909
Rape is illegal, you should call the cops anonychan senpai.
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>>164720158
maybe not enough money?
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>>164720408
>what is mushroom stew
>>
what's the name of the mushroom lady demon?

and do we have any r34 of her?
>>
>>164721339
mushroom magistrate
more than you expect but less than you hope
>>
>Beat the game today
>Have nothing past tier 3
>Time to farm shit
>Start with katana and Kamas
>rosewood
>fuck my ass
>listen to Lovecraft storys
>mute game sound
>he named his cat nigger-man
>have to laugh
>die

fuck. also do I need to hit headshots to deal damage with guns? Feels like body shots are really really bad. I wanted to gear out some defenders with Kamas that shred some kids apart since the only player hater that ever killed me was with a Kamas and shit was insane.
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W-who is still loyal to Ohio here?
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>>164720909
iktf
>>
I finally hit 5* fighters
I did it brothers
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>>164721453
me h-haha

totally dont want to get 100k per min in Cali

Nobody gives a fuck about loyalty dude, its a video game
>>
Gained the clothing of all jackals now and have 9 jackal blasters and 5 yoyos without a BP still.
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>>164721453
>willingly denying yourself free death metals
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>>164721674
You have no honor.

I wasted my freebie on changing to Ohio right before I knew about dev raids fml
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>>164721453
let's put it this way
i made my 355000 investment back in less than 30 minutes
>>
>Go to lunch, restart ps4 because game bugs out sometimes if you leave it on too long
>raided 12 times

I must have pissed a lot of people off
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>>164721674
FUCKING THIS

this entire general went full-blown retarded during the dev raid discovery

OP change when?
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>>164721456
Reminds me of learning to play Smash Bros.
>Unlearning the instinct to hold down the joystick while pressing other buttons.
>Slowly build the dexterity to be able to coordinate directional and button inputs


It boils down to taking your thumb off the joystick right before you press x.
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>>164722010
but it says california
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>the price to rescue level 1 fighter on F23 is the same as a level 73
This makes no sense.
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>>164722010
Nevermind, didnt notice they actually changed it

my bad, im retarded
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So the devs say they are thinking about uncapping the levels for characters. I'm wondering just how they are going to go about this?
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how... am i supposed to get up to nitanda?

ive been running around trying to unlock shit for hours and my brain hurts help
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>>164722162
To remove dev raids and implement a new way to lower constant raids

Along with mushroom nerfs
>>
So before I waste them, what are good uses for the death metals. I'm thinking I should expand my storage
>>
>>164722162
Source?
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>>164722293
not on your life pay, nothing has been said about shroom nerfs
>>
>>164717381
I couldn't hit it and it was stuck on a small piece of block where I couldn't hit it regardless of the angle and he just ended up exploding in my face.
>>
>>164722259
Got to Katsuma and kill U-10
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>>164722336
always dump on storage, even at 500 it gets hectic
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>>164722336
storage expansion is the most important
>>
>>164722162
An upgrade fee that would approximate the cost of buying a new fighter of the name class and the next grade, and then transferring the currently held levels of experience?

A different meta all together because lower grades still have shitty base stats, and this is really just fixing a problem that doesn't exist because the players can't understand that fighters are supposed to be disposable when you unlock higher grades?
>>
>>164722259
>>164722259
alright, but its going to make you depressed
you're supposed to go up from katsuma killing GETSOME then kill coen and run your ass back after reaching floor 35
>>
>>164720292
How much longer will these bastards be around for and will they respawn every time you go back to the waiting room?
>>
dev raids are up btw, refresh the list
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>>164722657
they've been up all day, what?
when have they not been up?
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so how much money have you spent on this game so far?
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>>164722778
$0 and finished the game, already got rank 5 weapon and sets

the game is too easy with shrooms
>>
>>164722778
10$
5$ for the 30 death metal deal
5$ for being a scrub and buying 10 dm
>>
>>164722778
About $30. All on death medals, and the 30 deal
>>
>>164722778
$20 for a PS+ code so I could get that free pack, because I let my PS+ account lapse before the game came out, and didn't have plans for the full 12 membership.
>>
Stupid bug wont let me put snail in inventory. Dpad prompt isn't showing while I'm holding it in my hands. Inventory isn't even full
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>>164722765
not him but how do you get it to pop up? im in cali and already having problems getting it to appear
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>>164722778
$0 and I plan to keep it that way
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>>164722343
Official thread on reddit
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>>164722778
If it's free and you can earn p2w items I never spend a cent.
Unless there's a sexy or cool item I really fucking think looks good.
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>>164720909
I'm farming Okusa right now. Always have a transparagus with me just in case.
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>>164722984
That snail is not meant for you, my son.
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>>164722778
uhhh
turns out like 150 dollars
fuck
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I want to dress up like the boss
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>>164723062
>sexier frog monsters
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>>164722778
$5, that DM deal is really good. Needed those for storage.
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>>164723372
>$150
>microtransactions
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>all the midbosses we've been fighting are failed experiments

I wonder what the successful ones are like.
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>>164723471
Probably those "stronger than jackals" enemies that are being released in the next update
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>>164721456
Not sure if you know this but you can stop change sprinting to jogging by pressing L3, so you don't have to physically stop.
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>>164722778
$5 of money Sony gave me for some reason.
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>>164723569
AKA not-fun content.
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>>164722778

like $20
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>>164723471
Successful JIN-DIE sounds like a bitch to fight
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>started this game day before yesterday
>so addicting actually thinking about buying some DMs just to support it
Please tell me I'm not fucking up.
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>>164724049
Wasn't that just the Jackson Jin-die?
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you guys do realize once japan gets the game the dev raids disappear completely right?
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>>164724059
the storage capacity is annoying and you already missed alot of freebies so you're gonna need it
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>>164723372
Good to see someone support the devs
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>>164724164
yea, but theyre still here now
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>>164724273
Hey man, idiots like him mean a better chance of future updates
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>>164724164
What makes you say that?
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>>164722778
I spent 150, which I earned back in a week working for my father. Disposable income is nice.
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>>164724332
Now we just need some middle eastern princes to whale the fuck out of this game and it'll never die
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>>164724059
go buy an express pass instead

well maybe after you get to the third area
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>>164724081
You're right actually, I never thought about how the Don's version of the miniboss could be a successful version
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>>164722778
$28 on 4 sets of 10 death metals (1 was the 30)
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Fun Fact: You can pause the game buy going to the DH menu no matter where you are.
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>>164724543
idk i did that once and the jackals spawned as soon as i left dh
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>raiding someone of a greatly higher TDM rank than you
>especially when they have no defense
>that +59 TDM points
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Porn of bullet tubers when?
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>>164724543
dont be a retard, just take a break between floors
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>>164722984
yeah bugs like that can happen. It happened to me too sometimes. Nothing you can do about it.
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Do you have to go home to get more snails?
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>>164724907
yes
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Im tacticool samurai
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So, if someone's sending naked hunters after me in Okusa, the polite thing to do is to leave it alone, right? So he can get more snails?
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>>164722778
Like 25$ I think, that being 4 purchases of the 10 DM packs and the 30 DM for 5$ special
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>>164725074
More like the weeaboo ronin
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Where all my non-Cali Diamondbros at? Let me raid you.
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still no clay helm
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I only bought the $5 welcome bundle. I probably would buy some more if they had a half off special or somethin
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Do the red x's on the spreadsheet indicate that those materials do or do not exist on that floor?
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>>164725256
Do
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What the fuck uses D.O.D black? I spent all day farming gold chests and all I got were these shits. After fully upgrading the welding gun I'm still sitting with 15 of these in my fucking storage.
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>>164725256
The X's mean only those materials appear on that floor.
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>>164725276
not a lot. I've come to sell it once I stopped making tier 2.
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>>164722778
>mfw people buy that one time package of $5 for 30 DM.
>mfw in Aus it's $8.99
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When are they going to fix this fucking music bug
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>Fight with Florida beginning soon.
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>>164724273
i look at it this way
i canceled my order of the last guardian collector's edition for this game
but to be fair i thought i was at around $100
>>
You should make the Executor's Ride, since you use the Motor Psychos for their rage attack only essentially.
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Do you just toss the gold snails on the ground and eat them to get the exp?
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>throw a stingshroom for GOTO to eat
>start hacking away at him
>immediately take over 600 damage and die from some unknown force
>realize that the hitbox for GOTO's charging attack starts a full second BEFORE he actually charge
What the fuck, senpai
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>>164725849
you can toss them on the ground and stomp them if you want the shroom, but as long as you kill them you get the exp
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>>164725849
i just bring a nail gun and shoot them on character that need levels
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>>164725873
Luckily I learned from that mistake on F11, just steer clear from him when he roars and you'll be good.
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>>164725849
Toss n' stomp=4560XP
Eat=100XP (Or 4560XP if you haven't stomped it yet.

You just make more xp.
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Good luck, California.

You'll never be able to stop Florida Man.
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>>164724621
Oh jesus. oh god. I've had it on pause for like an hour fixing some food.
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>>164726001
>>164726041
>>164726207
Holy fuck, 5 let me level up my tier 3 almost completely. But I need to go to bed, how often do they show up?
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>>164725616
Forced to leave cause you niggers are being cunts.
Can't keep money in the bank, and being a hero is practically impossible.
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>>164726425
Just eat a guardshroom and run to the escalator. Ever since I got to F30 the fear of jackals is gone. IDK if I could beat one, since I don't have the Jackal killer setup, but I doubt I could get fucked by one.
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>>164726487
Every four days, but they'll be here until 7PM EST. So, they'll be back (after 7PM tomorrow) on the 10th.
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>>164726425
rip sir anon
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>>164725096
Yeah, either that or let him kill you
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>>164726531
Yeah I made a b line back to the lower floor, luckily was only about less than halfway through the floor. When i unpaused it even the fucking music didn't sound right. Fuck I'm not doing that shit anymore.
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How long does snail room stay up for? 24h?
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>>164726696
Yup, until 7PM EST tomorrow.
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>>164726580
If I'd known that I would have gone to bed 2 hours ago
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you guys think this is suda's most profitable game yet?
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>>164725276
Other than the Welding Gun, the Pork Chopper also uses D.O.D. black
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>>164727114
No More Heroes was great but sold like dogshit right?
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>>164727114
Well this is the first Suda game i've played if that's an indication for anything.
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>>164727391
Coincidentally you haven't bought one either.
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>there are people that still think the Iron is DEX-scaling
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>>164727019
>going to sleep when such an event is going on
What the fuck is wrong with you?
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>>164727519
Whether it does more damage or not I still avoid hunters using them because it'll fuck my armor to bits.
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>>164727656
>durability system based on number of hits taken instead of damage received
This still bothers me.
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>>164727531
Not him. I maxed my T5s a week ago. There's no reason for me to hunt snails right now. I make more KC off of a single turtle than I do from 10 gold snails so they're useless as income.
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Ugh, time to go hunt JIN-DIE 38. Fun!

Its easy to beat her, but getting to Ebata is misery.
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Does dropping a fluffy fungus and the REM sleep effect work on GOTO?
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>>164725276
Uncle Death's scythe?
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Are shooters or strikers better? Don't the katana and cleaver saber scale off DEX?
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>>164728198
they have a dex requirement, they don't scale off dex.
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>>164728198
They're both good for climbing but end game the only classes I touch are attacker & lucky star.

Strictly between those two I would take a shooter because of decals, but striker needs less investment to be good.
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>>164728282
Do they scale off STR, then? How about the iron?
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>>164728547
It's not that hard. Slash and Blunt icons = STR Shooting icon = Dex
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How difficult is banzei?
I want to skip the 26f bosses and fight crowley already.
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>>164728724
You can't. Banzei doesn't go to crowley. It goes to 3 stupid fucking chests.
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>>164728012
It may work if you 'discard' it instead of throwing it.
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>>164723471
you are the successful experiment
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>>164729269
Fuck.
Not even a non-rotating room?
Nothing that connects?
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>>164728012
>>164729342
I highly suspect this is the only reason people suggest Stingshrooms.
There is no special effect per mushroom, it's just one of the few that you can actually throw intact.

The magic is just
>Random items just distract and heal Goto
>Mushrooms probably do the same, but also make him spaz out and sit dumbfounded for a while.
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>>164729392
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Fuck that reversal mk-4.
All my health in one aoe
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>>164729850
>sweating a Mk-4

When you see a Mk-5, run.
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>>164729397
Nothing.
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>>164730000
Haha, surely there is no such thing as a Mk-5
Good joke Anon, you got me there hahahahaha
There really isn't one is there, please god no
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>>164730095
There totally is.
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How much is a salvage on 40/41?
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>>164730357
A what?

Don't send expeditions to anyone on 40. There's nothing there. They come back empty handed aside from the standard KC & SP.
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>>164730357
250k
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So because I'm a dumbass I'm trying to get all the trophies. Is there a reliable way to capture fighters in TDM? (yes I'm just going to eject them afterwards, I'm aware of what happens)
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is it the okusa rotation that has the skip to floor 35 for t5 fighters?
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>>164730553
I hear the best way is to do enough damage to groggy them but don't do a gore move on them, just finish them off. I don't know if it actually has an effect on knockout rates, but if you do a gore move on them you will most certainly not get to bring them back. Maybe using blunt weapons as opposed to slashing or piercing will help?
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>>164730535
Thanks. So i need 2 more bank upgrades, i think.
Just to be safe
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>>164726208
but anon, I am Florida man
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This will never get old. Lets hope she stays put.

Also can you kidnap dev defenders?
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>>164730958
Dev defenders cannot be captured.
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>pork copper +2 required ultra pure ion
DROPPED
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>>164730793
Interesting. I'll try it out, see if it gets any reliable results. I wonder if it works on dev raids...
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>>164731018
Ultra-pure iron isn't that bad. You can buy it from shops and it shows up on at least 2 high traffic floors because they have trap chests.
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>>164727795
wut
> turtle 1100
> gold snail 7200
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>U-10

I have a really, really, really hard time believing that wasn't their "fuck your wallet you WILL spend death metals on this one" midboss

I have enough DM saved up from free handouts but jesus christ, I had nothing but my gear and a couple weapons and then shrooms and it used up all of them. And yes I was hitting the tail.
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>>164731290
1 Turtle = 1 Evershroom = 1 complete dev raid = 40,000 KC & ~48,000 SP
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>>164731290
Not him, but I regularly get 10k kill coins straight up from my expeditions.
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>>164731442
that makes sense
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>>164731421
I fought U-10 once. Cheesed him with slow. Never went back. Granted that was back when I was T4 with shit gear. I should try him out again and at least learn his moveset.
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>>164731713
lol Im better off farming taro because he has a far consistant milk red drop rate
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>>164731421
>Walk in with stingshroom running, guard if you're nervous
>cutscene, then invisshroom
>cut the tail while it walks around
>ded
wew lad

BELIEVE IN THE POWER OF MUSHROOMS
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>>164731421
I legit do not understand how people have trouble with U-10. I go through her to reach the secret shop all the time and I don't even use shrooms now.

Her tail tip is absurdly weak to slash damage and if you hit it with even marginal damage she will go into a stunned state giving you free damage.

If you're worried about being hit, just keep distance from her and sprint perpendicular to her to dodge pretty much anything she does. You can roll under the wide horizontal tail sweep.

Hell if you want you can just keep your range and dodge until she either tries to belly flop, leaving a huge opening, or when she lands and burrows her tail, as it aims at where you were when her tail goes underground, giving you just shitloads of time to run up and beat the shit out of her while her tail attacks the other side of the arena.
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>>164732521
There's no info about her on the FAQ, and there's no other boss that has a weak point and is completely invincible otherwise. It's a genre shift of a boss fight.
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>>164732521
I think its the beam people are scared about

funny enough Taro's isnt as threatening as its like Jindie's beam but you can literally walk out of it
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>>164727519
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>>164732671
I mean, it's only her back fan and her tail's main body that's invuln. Her flesh isn't a weak spot but you can still damage her by hitting it, just gotta be a little mindful of hitting her back thing.

I suppose not having a guide makes her a little intimidating, but if you can actually hit her she has the least HP/defense out of all the 31-40 midbosses.

>>164732690
Just like JIN-DIE (funny since same wind-up aura too) you just have to maintain a little distance and then sprint sideways. Unfortunately dodging U-10's doesn't lead to as massive an opening as JIN-DIE's
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>>164723062
>more music
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There's absolutely no way I am going to revive my fighter as he's priced at 210k for revival
but, fuck, man, i am gonna miss those decals.
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>>164733167

I did it. Man up guv.
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>>164723062
>Aiming options
>Lock on head

wew lad.
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>>164733392
I know. You're supposed to Let It Die.

But I grew attached to... Dustin.

He was just a victim in all this, forced into a cruel world he never asked for, thinking he might someday climb the to the top and be free of this hell.

And now his soul rests forever in nothingness, after a brief frenzy of losing his mind to Haterfication.
>>
MEGA OST link in pastebin is ded, anyone got a new link
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>>164722778
$50ish. First was for deathmetals which I ended up mostly using for storage space in the end as opposed to revives, which is nice. I don't mind supporting Suda-san at all, this game is super fun in the worst way and I have a job so that's not a lot to me.
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>>164722778
After 200 hours I bought the 30dm pack for 5$ as a reward for the devs (and the comfy extra storage).
>>
Does Barbarian work with things like Sniper Rifle and Kamas?
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>>164734456
Yes. The decal glows when you hold them
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>>164734456
Yes, anything you have in two hands. You'll notice it's active when you wear it on your decal spot.
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>>164734552
>>164734604
I see it now, thank you
>>
>main fighter died at a side room
>high number floor
>hater ends up on a room i dont have access to
>its snail day
>create a new fighter
Fuck it
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>>164734752
How many snails are needed to fully upgrade a T4 to max?
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>>164733748
Speaking of which, I have "Karasu Wa Masshiro - Let it Die (you shall die)", 320 kbps no-rip bullshit. If the OST guy is reading, give me a shout
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>>164734827
I used 4 for a striker.
No need to max everything.
Probably costs way more to max, as exp costs get higher
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>>164734827
9, 10 tops
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>>164722778
$5 for 30 DM all into storage, and then I rage bought another 10 for $5 to revive on 26's midboss fight. FUCK JIN-DIE, ugly bitch.
>>
I've gotten to the point I don't even destroy the SPlithium tank when I raid people anymore. I've not nothing to spend that shit on, and the TDM bonus by itself is already making the target on my back bigger and bigger.
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So guys I can do a quest to get one WE black, which weapon would be the best for it? I'm thinking it's either between the nail gun or KAMAS. Up to F25
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>>164735562
Can you aim? Kamas
Are you using it as a sub-weapon and barely ever aim? Nail gun
>>
What are "dev raids"? How do i do them instead of just normal raids?
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>>164736018
Get max TDM rank and join california, and you'll start seeing raids tagged with YTYMK or gungho_america. Those are dev raids.
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>>164736120
oh nevermind, i'd rather not experience them if it means betray texas
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>>164736829
You don't need to join commieforia, it's just that since they're such a high rank team and have so much members, they get better access to dev raids.
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>>164737084
>so much members
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>>164737084
That isn't it either. It's the fact that being in cali removes commies from your raid list, and since there aren't enough people outside cali to raid, it populates your list with dev raids instead. And it so happens that dev raids are more lucrative than anything else in the fuckin' game so everybody joins cali.
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>>164737214
>>>/a/
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>>164736120
>>164737303
is it difficult to get max TDM?
what's the fastest way to get splithium for an anon who hasn't gotten above floor 20
>>
>discovered how to win Dev Raids (for the purpose of getting TDM points) with only one Evershroom and no Brainshrooms
my stocks are going to last twice as long now and it is great.
>>
>>164737529
how with only 1? mine always runs out before i can finish
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>>164737529
I do dev raids with no mushrooms. Poison, bait the puke, kill, beat the banks up, train out
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Which floors 21-30 contain Crowley's comic? I want to know how he went from a computer whiz to an evil wizard.
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>>164734752
Continued:
>go with new striker to tower
>time to retrieve main
>beat jindie 26f first try
>why was i afraid of this?
>make it all the way to hyakuda
>but somehow miss the elevator on shinko-bashi
>going back
This is the most progress ice made in a while.
If this keeps up, ill beat crowley today.
MAYBE I CAN REALLY FINISH THE GAME BEFORE FEBRUARY.
Come on, i can do it
Just gotta believe in the power of the mushroom
>>
>>164737662
You only need 50% for the raid to be considered a "Success."

- Evershroom the starting platform (kill at least five defenders).
- Upstairs use a Fishy Fungus on the first person to drop down. It'll cause them to just stand there for 25 seconds.
- Beat up the bank (either one works - I have no need for the SPLithium tank, and nothing to spend it on, so I ignore it).
- If you only had four defenders downstairs, then kill the one that you confused so you get to five killed.
- Head back down and leave.

You'll come away with 52% and a "Success."
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>>164737692
Same. Also, if anyone can post screenshots of the comic, id be really thankful
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>>164737692
>>164737928
he became that way because of DnD and Surgery

https://imgur.com/gallery/LlpN6
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>>164737925
Whatvdoes evershroom do again?

Also I've noticed the pillbug shroom doesn't work in raids? I ate it midraid and the buff icon never appeared
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>>164738096
Enemies become groggy in 1-3 hits, and then you can instantkill them with a Goretastic.
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>>164738096
Raids have a weird bug where you have to stand still for a shroom to take effect. If you never stop moving, you never get the effect.
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>>164738026
Thanks, Senpai!
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>>164738026
Thanks a lot!
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>>164738026
same
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Alright, how the hell do i get to shinko-bashi's elevator?
Do i need to kill both midbosses?
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>>164739031
Yes, doesn't have to be same run
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>>164739031
Yep, it's behind the gate with two levers
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>>164739046
>>164739070
Can i just go to 30f and get the elevator there?
I dont really wanna kill coen
Also, thanks
>>
God I wish you could just see the players to expedition to by choosing a floor, so you see everyone on that floor instead of having to re-enter fighter freezer to find someone in Okusa
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>>164739167
yes
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>>164739167
Coen is a fucking joke
what the fuck is wrong with you
>>
so i just fought floor 34 coen and he was a complete retard. i thought i needed to be careful since he pulled some corpses out to use as clubs and then he just ran into a corner and swung at nothing while i stabbed him in the ass until my rapier broke and he died
>>
Just got "Judges Gavel" 4* premium decal.
Anyone have more info on this, like which weapons specifically it works on?

Description: Increase attack power by 100 percent during down attack
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>>164739279
Jindie is easier.
So i just prefer killing her.
Coen has too much health

Also fuck reversal tuber mk-4.
How the heck do i deal with them?
2k damage on 1 aoe that takes the whole arena
>>
>>164739392
stomping and downstabbing with the butterfly knife
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>>164739453
Oh that's too bad..
>>
>>164739445
Don't get hit
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>>164739858
Im trying. But i always get hit by the edge of the aoe.
Please, give me some tips.
Which weapon, or how to dodge better, anything.
I may use a slowmungus in desperation
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>>164720728
>a decal that ensures boss metal drop on each kill
does that exist
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>>164739958
Run, sprint, really close to his side, bait him into an attack, run away, then when you are far out, after he either does his line attack or his Aoe, run back in for the backstab. I used cleaver, or katana, or chopper, anything really.
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>>164740098
Thats actually very helpful. Thanks
Ill try baiting.
But ill take a slowmungus to be sure.
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>>164703412
what should i get for my first grade 5 fighter? i usually go striker but i worry that it still won't have enough dex for the masamune/rapier
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>>164740442
Do you have a premium Tank decal? Attacker.

Do you have a premium DEX discount decal? Striker.

You won't have as much HP as an attacker, even still, and your damage with guns will suck as a striker. Pick your poison.
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Why do the Jackal have a hard on for appearaning so much after the first Area, I was getting chased by the female jackal and the gun jackal just entered right in front of me, and shot me up.
Then they played the cutscene
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>>164738026
>PKCarnagie

Heh. Youre a tough dude to raid.
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>Beat U-10 and COEN easily and decide to look for the next elevator
>Apparently it isn't untill you defeat bitchass GOTO-9
>Whatcangowrong.jpg
>Tier 4 striker with good armor and weapons
>He oneshots me through my lifeshroom
>He had the materials on him to craft my deathburner
>Not enough gold to salvage let along get enough to salvage him without upgrading my stash 3 times

W E L P at least I can make T5 fighters now FUCK.
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New information for OP from recently discovered info

>What's this game about?
Opening and closing a freezer full of people for 20 minutes until giving up and sending all the people to F31+ of a tower instead of F13
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>>164740682
True.
But don't give up senpai
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>>164740682
Gold Snails don't even do much for me anymore; raiding at Diamond Rank (with the 10k TDM Bonus) is so much better dosh than selling golden snails, so it lets me send my expeditions to F31+ to keep getting Evershrooms, Brainshrooms, and Fishy Fungus to continue doing Dev Raids.

And as far as the exp aspect of the snails go, I don't need a bankfull of them to level up characters, only about 10-15. I'm so glad to be free from Snail farming.
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Friendly reminder that, to keep rage from dying in upper floors, remember to take a break when things start to get to stressful.
Insisting might cause more dead fighters or death shekels being expended.
Breaks are important senpai! Also, remember to eat and drink while you climb the fucking tower.
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Uhhh...
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>>164741298
"there's no more dev raids"
You wait for me, I'm climbing as fast as I can
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>Hear about dev raids
>Rush to t5
>Farm money to get t5 fighters
>Dev raids! YES!
>Get destroyed by fully geared T5 defenders I can't kill without a ton of shrooms
>:-(

Dammit I thought this was gonna be easy money! I can't do shit against these guys without farming for another 2 weeks first.

So, anon, consider carefully if you're actually ready for these dev raids before dropping everything to get to them asap
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>click the left side of the touch pad with the intent to throw an animal to kill it for its mushroom
>eat it instead
200+ hours into the game and this shit still happens to me; why is the touch pad so fucking bad?
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>>164742059
because you're fucking bad
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>>164742125
>clicks the left side of the touch pad
>signal sent to the game is that of the right side
Yea, okay. That's all on me.
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I've unlocked T5 fighters now but I still feel weak as shit. Any general pointers for grinding the materials required for the death burner and stuff? I've been having a hard time finding aluminum.
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>>164741976
>walk in with chopper and katana
>chop one
>run away so it pukes
>run back in and r1x2
>go beat up the tanks
>train back out
C'mon anon, you can do it
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>>164742338
Chopper's poison with Katana's R1? What upgrade levels on the two?
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>Bowling Stomper blueprint
random drop rate?or there's certain floor with a higher drop rate
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>>164742425
Mine? Base chopper +4, katana 4*+4. Might take 2 stab slice combos if it's a defender. I always bring a deathburner as a backup if they have too much armor.
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>>164742162
Whats more likely?

1. The controller is defective and somehow reversed the controls
2. You pressed the wrong button and your ego is so fragile about a minor fuckup in a vidyagame that your mind remembers it wrong

u fucked it up, anon. it's ur own fault

sorry
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>>164742625
Do it on your controller too then if you're so sure of yourself; if you click the bottom-LEFT corner of the touchpad (or the top-LEFT), it'll act like you clicked on the RIGHT and eat it. The only way to get it to properly prime for a throw is to hit it dead on in the center on the left side.
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>>164742741
I exclusively use the bottom left corner for throwing.
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>>164742338

>only have base 3 star katana and chopper
>barely any damage against t5 fighters in armor
>not enough time to kill the first 5 defenders to get to the tanks

is there any hope for me, anon?
I have one almost broken 5 star katana I could funshroom but funshroom supply is limited..
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>>164742741
I think it's you bro
You can basically go all the way to the center of the touchpad without any issues
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>>164742997
Hoard turtles from expeditions and craft a 2* nailgun & 2* knife or crossbow.

Turtles drop like mad from 31+ expeditions so theres no excuse to ever have problems with raids.
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“Senpai” is the Finnish word for idiot.
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>>164742997
Grind first, or load up on irons and strip them. I'd recommend to grind, or just use the evershroom/nailgun tatic
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So a glitch just happened to me where the guy who I switched with in my freezer completely duped and replaced my inventory. Even the equipped items changed to the other ones with the same durability. Maybe it's because they are the same model idk. I failed to replicate it, but if figured out it seems very exploitable for shrooms and mats.
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>>164742338
>>164742545
Holy shit, you weren't kidding. I was panicking because my Evershroom stocks were getting low, but this is stupid easy.
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>>164743414
I'm just glad it worked out for you anon
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Best boss/jackal killer? Attacker or Skillmaster? What weapon do you use? I need something till feb.
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>>164744185
I use 4 star Pork Chopper +4 . I use any decal to boost attack like Serial Killer. Throw 2 Grilled Fishy Fungus to leave them open and eat 2 sting shrooms and it gets the job done easy enough.
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If I crouch, stay still and shoot coen, will he listen to the shots and run to me?
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>>164745004
bruh...
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>>164745004
Nah man, he ain't gonna hear the very loud cracking of the gun firing. You're safe.
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>>164745004
>>164745416
That reminds me
>Sniping screamers on a big open section.
>One of the screamers walks over curiously to the last one I shot, and tries to figure out what happened
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>>164745004
>Not getting to 20 Gun Mastery for the Silencer
Step it up senpai
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>set up all invaders with hot irons and hammers
>somehow get kills on most of them
Huh. Surprise nailgun invaders are getting me in the habit of using block, so at least they arent total fuckers

Also - Surprised there isn't a mobile app to manage invasions and level/farm shit for alt characters when not playing considering the publisher
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>>164745416
Crossbow and nail gun aren't louder than the iron.

>>164745612
I have mastery 20 for every gun but the arc welder and flame wand, which I'm I'm the process of getting.
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>>164745215
>>164745416
>>164745612
The amusing part is that he's only coded to listen for actions on concrete

You can flat sprint on grass and unload on him from it but he'll never do anything but ground pound in response :^)
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so did Sony pay for part of development?

I'm playing on PS4 right now (first ps4 exclusive I actually give a shit about), but if it hit Steam I might switch over
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>Send 9 of my fighters to Okusa on 6 hour expeditions before going to bed
>Come back and get only 3 gold snails for this
What the fuck is this? That's far less than normal.
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>>164746649
do something about it nerd
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>>164746649
shouldnt sleep so long loser set an alarm every hour pussy
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There, killed coen.
I did verify that sometimes he does not hear you, even if you sprint, like said here >>164746194
He heard the nailgun but didn't do much to welding gun, strangely.
And FUCK he is tanky.
Id prefer killing jindie 10 times before having to kill him again.
Most boring fight ever.
At least got 3 new bps!
Let's check... Motor psycho x3
Ayy how LUCKY
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>Your death was totally gruesome-amazing this time, too!
F U C K Y O U
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>>164747586
>So what do you think of our insurance offer now? X3
I swear to god, the way she says this shit makes it seem like she's deliberately orchestrating your deaths by spawning dev haters and screamers whenever you go too long without dying.
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Ive been testing out Living on the Edge(survive lethal hit with 1hp decal).
Its actually pretty decent.
Because it saves your lifeshroom and protects you from one hit, no matter how much the damage is.
So its actually a pretty decent help on survivability.
All right, it only being able to activate one time is kinda bad, but it does save you enough times to be worth it.
I suggest everyone to try it out for themselves.
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>game was downloaded 1 milion times
>only 5% of players beat the first boss at F10
>2% for jackson
>0.3% for crowley
ONLY 3000 PLAYERS GOT PAST CROWLEY
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how do u niggers get dev raids? my lists just fills with 67-69 people even doe I'm 70
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>>164748193
Even trophy sites that have people hunting for them barely have people getting past Taro. Killing a Jackal on PSNProfiles is like .06% last time I checked. Nearly everything is Ultra Rare tier.
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>>164748193
I promise I'll make it 3001 today. I've already made it to 29f. Just need to get past it and ill shroom abuse the fuck out of crowley
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>>164748193
>Final boss 0.1%
feels good
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I FINALLY KILLED GOTO
TRUST THE MUSHROOM MAGISTRATE WHEN SHE SAYS THAT MUSHROOMS ARE THE KEY
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So what's the highest durability weapon to start working on starting at floor 20?

Hammer feels like it lasts for-fucking-ever, but apparently it isn't so good long term so I'm dropping it as soon as I can. Also levelling hot iron but that's my hater/boss weapon so I try to preserve it
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>>164748532
cleaver saber
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>>164748260
Are you a member of the glorious California?
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>>164748329
Actually, I'll make a promise.
If I manage to beat this game's last boss before February, ill study fucking hard for college and make sure I get a passing grade on everything.
Except calculus. Fuck calculus.
Anyway, if I can beat this game I sure as hell can beat college.
Please, pretend you believe in me. I have problems to complete stuff
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>>164748532
just bring more irons
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>>164748603
thanks, I'll start it asap. is it RNG to find it, or is it for sale at one of the secret shop spots?
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>only 1000 people beat the game
>nerds here think we'll get more endgame content
really makes me think
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>die on the floor after GOTO
>need to fight GOTO again
fuck
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>>164748895
Solution - Add co-op where you mercenary for a player and get paid each floor you advance them so shit players can get some help
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>>164748820
not sure if the secret shop has it.
drops on floor 21-30f. very common drop for my striker
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>tfw i wasted time and resources leveling a shooter and upgrading AK and Magnum

I wish i had asked if shooter is bad
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>>164749151
AR/Magnum are bad unless you have One Shot One Kill and can aim
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>>164749098
>Every time you take someone to a floor +10 boss and win you get a Death Metal
>Rewards for helping someone clear a floor are the rescue price formula but at a much reduced rate.
>Person hiring you has to pay a Death Metal or 20k.

Granted, this isn't a Souls game so Death Metals aren't equivalent in rarity to Humanity as an example, but I think it could work as you say.
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>>164749393
*SHOOTER is bad unless you have One Shot One Kill
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>>164749151
They arent. You just have shit decals.
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Why is transparungus so rare? I had 2 and ate them by accident. Where to go for transparungus?
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>>164749098
>>164748895
The game is designed around taking months to beat unless you're a complete fucking nerd, the longer the game takes to beat, the longer the period of time people might pay real money for ingame currency.

In theory artificially stretching out content results in more profit.
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>>164749513
Shooter is fine as are basically just a Striker with less HP and an extra decal slot, if you're using a katana.
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>>164749643
So basically, it's an arcade game meant to steal your money.
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>>164749643
>>164748895
Wait is there really no more content coming, because I was kinda banking on this game going on for a while and being updated.
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>>164749721
why would they add more content for 0.1% of their playerbase?
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Does TDM rank reflect your tower progression?
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>>164749814
Well it doesn't seem all that costly to prepare, honestly. 90% of the game is reused assets. Also they go on in the intro about how the Tower of Barbs is said to be getting taller each year.
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>mfw rushing to Floor 25 with a level 1, grade 1 fighter
>mfw I have 4+ screamers chasing me everywhere without being sure if the path I'm taking is the right way, or if it'll lead me to a dead end, or if there're going to be a random box in my way
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>>164749721
Yes more content is coming. There's been vague suggestions that it'll coincide with the JP release, which is in February.

Things that have been confirmed to happen at 'some point':
>More floors
>More Jackal-type enemies (special spawn conditions, very powerful)
>More weapons
>More Decal (it was written that way because English)
>level cap unleash (again written that way when it probably just means another grade of fighter to go along with the additional floors)
>base configuration (waiting room stuff, they've been unsurprisingly vague about what that means)
>more sorting options
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>>164749957
Even if a good portion is reused assets they still have to do a plethora of QA and testing on it on top of the mess that is balancing newer things, hiring voice actors, figuring new ways to get money via gameplay, and so on.

As it is now I find it hard to believe they're making anything remotely decent when nearly everyone quits before Max and going into it with the thought that the higher floors must be P2W with how punishing the game is when they hit machete users.
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>>164750081
we literally betatested this shit for nips for FREE while some of us even PAID for it
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>>164749721
The problem is that in this game you can't really slowly and gradually progress, if you want to progress you have to tryhard, whether you do it today or in 2 months. A casual player can't beat the game, and everyone who sees the grind and isn't a NEET will probably decide that the game experience is not worth the hassle.

I also don't think the game will be profitable enough for them to develop new content, seeing how the death metal/kill coins/other uses exchange rate is so fucking bad and everything in the cash shop is just plain fucking overpriced. Who the fuck is going to buy some metal or set for literally 30$? Who the fuck is going to buy 10 DM for 6,99$?

They made a huge mistake getting involved with these Gungho jews, if they just released this game for 30 bucks they could've designed it around not being a stupid grind fest noone that has a life is ever going to beat AND they could have enough money to add another few floors.

Also i kind of feel like the game as exhausted everything it can do and adding another 10 floors won't add anything to the experience, seeing how everything will still be humanoids wearing either OP weapons you have to exploit or shit that makes them free kills just like the previous 40 floors.
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Well after 60 hours and ten weapons maxed to 20 in the mastery including fists I think its time that I proceed past the elevator on floor 3 to fight whatever boss I will most likely meet.

I love this game.
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any advice on where to farm bullet metal ?
ive killed over 100 bullet tubers today alone and got none...
killed them 31-33 and 26-27-28
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>>164749721
More content was confirmed weeks ago.

https://www.twitchDOTtv/gunghoonlineentertainment/v/109868816

00:45:24

is coming in february.
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>>164750229
>A casual player can't beat the game, and everyone who sees the grind and isn't a NEET will probably decide that the game experience is not worth the hassle.
This is the biggest problem right here. One death (When you don't pay) can set you back an hour or even more later on. You need to grind dozens of items to progress just one bit of weaponry, and if you die that's hours down the drain if you don't pay up. One single run on the 30s just to look around can take around 40 minutes up to two hours from how cautiously you have to play due to the cost of dying and how absurd the enemies can get.

I personally don't see anyone who is a normal gamer that plays games to unwind after work ever getting past the 20s. The amount of time you have to put into the game, the amount of knowledge you have to obtain, and the amount of things you have to put up with to advance would just be too much.

It took me 150 hours just to beat the game, kill Jackals, and get a 4 star +4 katana. I don't even have the third tier of armor for anything yet due to how much time I'd have to piss away to farm for the pieces, but I need to if I want the defense trophies.
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>>164750283
I've made it to floor 16 mainly using my fists and I still don't have mastery level 20, you are crazy.
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>>164750516
They would solve this with co op.
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>>164750516
The farming for items wouldn't be that bad if you knew where to go for what you want but it's all fucking random and some shit is really rare.
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holy fuck is there a more cancer boss than jindie?

>use a slowtime shroom
>bitch teleports up where i cant get there
>this repeats 5 times until i run out of shrooms
>she kills me even doe I'm a fully geared +4 4* star katana t5 fighter

this bitch literally impossible to kill without transparangus
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>>164750627
you just fucking suck me thinks
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>>164750495
>stat requirements for weapons will be removed

Does that mean the discount decals will also be removed? But I spent gold on those. I want compensation.
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>>164749682
Why would you use a Katana on a Shooter?
I've heard this a couple of times, people going Attacker or Shooter for Katana, but why? It's a melee weapon and therefore scales with strength...?
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>>164750609
If bosses could only drop their metal 100% of the time, the gold chests only guaranteed whatever metal can't be found from bosses on that floor, and the drop rate on Reversal and Bullet Metals was more than doubled I think it would be okay when it came to farming, but as it is right now it's a complete shitshow.
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>>164750594
>They would solve this with coop

You didn't read what the person he responded to said. People beating the game would mean they have no more reason to buy shit with real money, therefore they want this game to take months to beat. They don't want you to be able to get help.
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>>164750695
Shooter has pretty good strength
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>>164750698
But anon, then people wouldn't have a reason to buy 1 (one) rare metal for 50$!!!

Seriously, did the idiots at Gungho really think this payment model and these prices would actually make them a profit?
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>>164750695
Shooter has good STR too. With guns if you get 2 one shot one kills you are pretty much playing with a sting mushroom on at all times without the defense penalty.
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>>164750229
I agree on death metals bring overpriced as fuck. I'm probably going to buy the 30 death metal pack $5 introduction thing, but hoo boy are they some shit value for the normal packs

Also adding more floors while nice for like 1% to 5% of the userbase doesn't add much for shitters.

We need some features/content for all levels. Co-op and friendly equivalent of haters would be big ones and events/content with a multiple levels of difficulty are two big ones.
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>>164750516
>This is the biggest problem right here. One death (When you don't pay) can set you back an hour or even more later on
This is a smaller part of an interesting design flaw to me. The game has many huge roadblocks to players that are largely introduced by their asynchronous multiplayer.

Say you lose a character and don't have the death metal to continue, and you're tier 3, on floor 22 or something. At this point you're in the rank where if you ever have more than 30,000 KC you're a target for raids. Not to mention you need to start a new character - which is tremendously more difficult/dangerous than it was the first time due to dev haters or hunters sent after you matching your rank - something determined by your highest tier fighter rather than having anything to do with your current fighter's level/gear.

So you have trouble leveling a new character, you can't just go straight back to where you were, you can't make the money back to salvage your original character because you're constantly being raided - if raiding or the haters being based on your rank systems didn't exist neither of these would be huge roadblocks to players.

Then you consider that these roadblocks don't even have to be there - minor preparation can ready you for losing a character. Hoarding golden animals from quest rewards, or knowledgeable players hoarding golden snails solves the new character problem. Hoarding quest reward/expedition money solves the being raided problem by giving you safe resources. But these aren't apparent, and they're probably not even really intended.

They need to add an apparent way to bank resources, and possibly change the way hater matching works if they want the game to be more approachable and manageable for people who aren't inclined to research and abuse game mechanics.
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>>164750891
What's the point?
You can only execute Headshots with guns, so why would you even care about Shooter having good strength and not just go with Striker for Katana?
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WHERE IS THE FUCKING TRANSPARUNGUS???

Someone said to go to the place with like 5 snipers on 15f but I don't wanna go back there, I just don't
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>>164750891
>if you get 2 one shot one kills

But you can't use more than 1 of the same decal on the same character.
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>>164751121
You can stack premiums with non premiums.
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>>164750627
Use a stingshroom with the slowmungus.
Also, don't get hit.
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so ive figured out skillshrooms and how they spawn. they are most common on boss floors. the reason silver shrooms are so rare is that everyone hates jacksons fight and so no body with t4 or t5 fighters replay the fight so no one can send expeditions. I also have a theory that skillshrooms are based on how many users are on a floor at a given time aka the more users on a floor the more likey they are to spawn, this is why gold shrooms are common every one is on 30-40 so they spawn more commonly.
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>raid some guy
>don't understand ranks
>he's got 20 points on me
>go in, first guy is level 148
>try to leave right away because I'm DH Express
>can't board the train
>die
what the fuck is this shit I was supposed to be able to peace the fuck out whenever
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It just dawned on me that all defenders in a Dev Raid are Lv140+ so Giant Killer would be turned on. This shit just got even easier.
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>>164749682
why would anyone ever use a shooter over an attacker if they want to use katana hp dont mean fucking shit its useless
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>>164751215
Oh, and have a gun. You can't hit shit with only melee weapons.
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I had this terrible thought just now. So, if class affects blue prints and mushroom decals then what if the developers decided that the current rotation also affects these things?
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>>164750627
I kill midbosses with one guard/sting every time I go into the tower

git gud
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>>164751218
if im right there is a guaranteed mushroom spawn on the side area of 20 before the boss fight button if some one with an elevator pass was to go up and down it would eventually spawn a siver shroom as it is floor 20
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Neat. I got the silver heart decal my first go at the stew. I thought it would be special since they sell it with the one of the $100 packs. Or is it shit? Increases max stamina by 50%
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>>164751304
real good advice there buddy
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>>164751121

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wxt9TqTWp_I&feature=youtu.be&t=42
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>>164750698
>>164750840
You both must be new to F2P/Microtransaction games. This is 100% the norm, and it 100% does make them money. If this is too much of a grind for you, I recommend getting off the ride and find something else.
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>>164751508
its useless as fuck maybe if you have absolutely nothing els to use then maybe its worth having equipped
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>>164751520
But that was two shots
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>>164751508
>>164751627
Au Contraire. I've actually found it very useful stacked with Sprinter/Marathon Runner when I'm farming Wakabe for Black Metals. Less time spent walking and more time running gets me to and from the chest back to the elevator faster. It's niche, sure, but it's not completely useless. I also know some Rapier builds for Jackal killing use it so they can keep the Jackal stunlocked.
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Is a death burner good enough to kill Gunkanyama? It's the only weapon I have at that level. Or am I going to need to hobo something better?
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>>164751620
Oh no, I'm not new to F2P at all and this is par for the course, but the thing here is that it's an absurd amount of time you have to sink in compared to most other F2P games just to simply progress at all. Money can't buy you anything in this game worth a damn like it could in a proper F2P, so you're just expected to throw hours and hours at it just to do the simplest shit with the monetary portion going towards the rare death while grabbing the materials.

They're not going to make money off of this method, everyone will be extremely turned off of it when they power through the Jackals, Max, Jin-die, haters, and machetes to get to 21 and find that nearly everything they have was useless and they now have to spend hours of their day farming a random drop at one of two chests that isn't even guaranteed to maybe level up a weapon decently. and if they don't Google the proper weapons to use they could piss away their materials to worthless things like the magnum or the hammer thinking they're worth using.
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>the quest to kill all 4 bosses doesn't complete
nice
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>>164751819
Look at the rage meter and the ammo count, it sounds like it was two shots for whatever reason, but it was only one.

>>164751854
It's fine; that's how I killed him myself. Might want to bring a second one for ammo/durability just in case, but the Burner itself does fine damage. Remember to aim for the tail, since Taro is basically U-10.
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>>164751854
No, Death Burner dies off extremely extremely quickly on the boss front, for the 30s it is strictly for shredding armor and dealing hefty damage to Screamers/Haters, nothing more. Unless you are packing five or more of the things the damage will drop so low that you won't be able to deal enough damage at all.
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>>164751830
oh good to hear! Maybe I will use it then!
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>>164751964
Maybe you weren't aiming for the weak spot? Since he's based on U-10, you'd use the burner on his tail, not his head. I killed Taro my first time with a single Death Burner and Stingshrooms. In fact, from Floor 23+ I killed every mid-boss and boss with an Iron almost exclusively.
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>>164752127
That could possibly be it, I could have sworn I was hitting the tail with a Stinghsroom but I guess not. Take what I said with a grain of salt then, I just know it wasn't that great on Goto or Coen when I tried it on them, didn't even bother on Jin-die.

Yes, I know Coen is resistant to blunt.
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>>164752217
Bosses all have weak spots, but they can be kinda finicky at times. Coen's is his direct rear, and Goto's is his front and back. If you attack from other angles (like their sides), the damage'll be reduced. I'm not actually sure what Jin-Die's weak point is, but she's kinda squishy anyway.
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i need ultra pure iron for my pork chopper where can i find it im leveling so i can take on goto9 on floor 35
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>>164752393
Very rare iron material on F31+ or bought from the Secret Shop on F31+.
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>>164752393
look at the spreadsheet in the OP. Any floor marked 'Iron' past 31 can spawn it. It's rare.

The secret shop also always has one, and his stock refreshes at least hourly.
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So why is everyone killing me in like 2 chain combos on floor 15ish now? If I see a hater above my level cap I just run now because it will be a 1 hit kill probably.
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I'm getting devraids right now in cali so so should you guys, try it
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Where is page 2 of Crowley's comic? I already checked the spreadsheet, but didn't find it
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what does ultra pure iron look like anyway is it a cube or bars of metal
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>Trophy earned: The View From The Top
Whew. Time to live my fucking life now.
Thanks for all the help Senpais.
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Just got chain combo'ed by a lightning saber. Ate through Lifeshroom like it was nothing. Any tips on how to counter this weapon?
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Eating the same shrooms does stack, right?
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>>164754067
I also got many problems with it in the past. Try these:
-iron parry the world
-sniper headshot
-shrooms
Its a fucking god weapon for AI, so be fucking careful. It is totally worth it to throw a brainshroom of you're afraid to parry and don't have an upgraded sniper
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>>164752698
are you wearing armor?
You might be needing a change.
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>>164754096
No
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>>164754096
Only the time stacks, not damage or other effects.
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>>164754229
I'm wearing DIY+ +1/2 armor, held back from upgrading it by some medals
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>>164754067
Screamers will always only do two hits so just bait the two hits.
Haters will ALWAYS go for the 7 chain if you are even remotely close to them so you either bait out all seven hits, use an iron parry, or Brainshroom the asshole.

Third tier armor will soak up a good chunk of damage assuming you have slash resist on it.
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>>164754195
Does it even have a combo ender? It seems like once the AI land 1 hit, it just fucking keeps going and you are stunlocked until you die.
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>>164754263
Perfect, thanks.
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>>164754535
It ends after 6 successive combos i think
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mfw finally getting devraids
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>>164755451
I always ge them right as I´m about to go to bed.
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mfw max bank size is less than half the cost to salvage my guy
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>>164755451
Dev raids have that same tag that dev hunters have right?
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Hunting War Ensemble Reds is a bitch. Goddamn teleporting JIN-DIE, and goddamn run to Ebata from the elevator.
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this would be your own stupid fault
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do you get anything for completing the beast or mushroom collection.
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>>164754287
get an armor that's got good slash or bullet damage.
the metal you need is D.O.D green metal right?
Apparently they drop from the gold chest in Chitose-Mei.
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>>164755845
Yeah, that's when you have to let it die. It's annoying, but it's snail day. Go get 5 if you're t5 and you'll be good.
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>>164755867
yeah, YTYMK-
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>>164754414
>Screamers will always only do two hits so just bait the two hits.


Ok, that's good to know thanks.
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>>164751819
He missed the first shot. Look at the Oakshroom buff icon. It disappears and then he shoots again.
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Holy fuck U-10 was a joke compared to Coen. Dude is massive health sponge. I killed U-10 with 3 hits with the 4* +2 chopper but with Coen I still struggled.
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>>164756607
Yeah fuck COEN, he's my least favorite one to farm
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>>164710827
but that relies on them being in the revenge list AND in Okusa
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>>164756680
Doesn't need to be in the revenge list. If you find a guy in Okusa, send the guy after him and if you're fast enough your next guy will have him on the page.
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>running low on DMs
>they give me like 5 this morning
I swear this game. I actively avoided LID for weeks because I thought Suda would be fags, but these guys are on par with Grind Gear Games for being based about F2P. I wasn't expecting this.
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>>164756913
fast enough meaning that my Internet must be quicker to send
what rank are you?
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>>164756607
Going to craft my Death Iron soon, will 2 be enough for him?
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>killed U10, Coen and unlocked Grade 5 characters on snail day

Today is a great day.
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hey is raging bull any good i just got a perimum of it while looking for blood sucker
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>>164757414
The chopper I used had 1,000 atk and it almost broke. I suggest you go with 4 Death Burners and 5 slow mushrooms and stings.
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>>164757520
It's mandatory for Jackals, so yes.
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is the rotation for skipping to floor 37 open today? I would love to get my grade 5 fighters tonight
what floor is that accessible from? are some +2 grade 3 motor psychos good enough? I have lots of mushrooms
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I am starting to believe the RNG for decals works the same way as chest drops. I only play as Striker and I keep getting decal duplicates despite not having the majority of them. I only get emeralds, gym and bull decals. 3 weeks and the same dupes over and over again. I am going to make a different fighter and pull again to see if it changes. I bet it will.
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>>164757832
good luck bro, report your findings to us
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>>164757728
Tomorrow, always open 1 day after Okusa.
Okusa ends today at 7PM EST
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The RNG for buying new freezer bodies is stupid

>first 4* collector can raise DEX & VIT to 19, rest 17
>every character after only gets 17's for all
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>>164757989
that's fine, I get to prepare for tomorrow then
thank you (and thank fuck I'm not working on Saturday for once)
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>>164756336
How is the Assault armor?
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>get to floor 30
>expeditions bring back 4* and 5* weapons and armors

Is like I dont have to bother farming for mats and upgrades anymore. Got an entire falcon set, used fungus repair and clearing floors are a breeze.
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>>164757252
>using dms on anything but stash
baka i thought poe players are supposed to be smart
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>>164758323
Looks badass.
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Can someone be a bro and upload a good control blood deck
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>>164757414
>>164757605
One Death Burner is enough, yes. Use a stringshroom and make sure you attack him directly from behind; that's his weak point.
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Hey there sempais!

I started to play this game yesterday and I'm grasping al the concepts, but I have a question. What's the deal with Dev Raids?

pls spoonfed explanation. Thanks!
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>>164758981
My dude, I think you got the wrong general.
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Beat Jackson first try but it was pretty disappointing because the second half is a complete Jin-die clone. I mean, Max was pretty unique.
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>>164759207
>Max is pretty unique
But he's literally based off Coen.
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>>164759068
So basically the game whenever you can't find other people to raid let's you raid the devs. To get them you should have a really high rank(not the TDM one) and to have such a high rank you need to get T5 and upgrade your freezer to max and have at least a lvl 1 T5 fighter in each slot. Since you started yesterday you won't have to worry about them for a long time.
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>>164759207
all the bosses are heads put on other bosses senpai
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>>164759328
>>164759303

Ok, I could've sworn Max's body was robotic. I guess it just wasn't as obvious with that one. With Jackson it's literally "Jin-die behind him".
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Fucking Bone Tubers man
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>>164759608
They literally can zero shift in +30 ao enjoy them while you can.
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>>164759608
i love bone tubers they are so easy to kill you just wait for them to attack then perfect guard them and they die in 1 hit easy fucking peasy and they give lots of coins
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>>164759608
iron parry
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>>164750229
I've been saying this from the start. Making this F2P and then putting every hope for this thing to make a profit on the cash shop was fucking retarded. Chad Thundercock, who's heard about Dark Souls and is used to playing Western shit, will hate this because it's too hard and not worth the hassle, and rightfully so. Gungho is using the same Jewish tactics mobile developers like the Candy Crush people used to make a quick buck by forcing insane artificial difficulty and poor balancing to frustrate the player into giving in and shelling out shekels for DM.

They could've priced this as a normal retail game and released the extra floors as DLC and they would've probably made way more money than they have with the current model.

All they have left to add to keep the experience fresh is co-op and a bigger emphasis on the story. I really doubt we'll be seeing either in the next content update.
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>>164760004
I haven't needed to parry once in this game yet. I just roll or strafe back. To iron parry you just time a perfect block, right?
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>>164759892
you can block that and laugh
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>>164760162
iron (the weapon) has a L1/R1 parry alternative "attacK", it has much more frames than normal parry

u need weapon mastery to unlock it doe
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>>164759608
here's how to take advantage of their block
>step to their side
>attack
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>random hater drops me my first motor psycho
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>>164759608
>farming kawabe without a flame longsword
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Went to fight crowley
Was ready for everything
All mushrooms
Everything
EXCEPT A FUCKING 6 ROLL AND A REVERSAL TUBER
THAT SHIT KILLED ME THROUGH THE LIFESHROOMS
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>>164760503
>farming kawabe without treasure hunter
truly autism
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>>164760581
>getting hit by a reversal tuber at all
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>>164760581
Kek sorry anon, you'll make it next time, I believe in you!
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Maybe I'm being a newfag, but why do some people's subway areas during raids look so "nice" compared to the usual run-down one?
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whats the highest rank? diamond at 3000?
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>>164760812
I don't know, that shit is the bane of my existence.
Id prefer to fight 2 jindies at the same time

>>164760847
I did it. Sold snails, salvaged and he rolled something that summoned my friends grade 2 hater.
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>>164760581
It's not about how many times you fail Senpai, it's about how many times you try,
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>>164761252
they have an active express pass which makes you use the premium subway
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>>164761410
That's 2 times. I'm done with him already.
To never come back
But fuck. If they ever make a reversal tuber don, I'm quitting the game.
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>Had to move so my internet is shit
>do a raid with all my good shit
The bug keeps spinning on the globe but it's not letting me leave.
T-this isn't stuck is it?
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>tfw you get what you want
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>>164761737
i got bull and raging bull but all i wanted was blood sucker i guess im lucky
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>Farming Okusa, hoping to help lessen some time for people looking for expeditions
>Everyone keeps sending fully geared hunters after me
>Brainshroom supply low from floors 31+
Fuck you guys then, I'm just going to go back to to climbing the tower.
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>>164761675
yeah it happens I just restart and its np
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The contents of my past ~100 or so Mushroom Stews is starting to drive me into a downward spiral of depression.
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>Barely got raided since i got extremely tight defense
>everyone finds out about evershrooms
>12 raids, 10 defense failures
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>>164762362
Kek this base defense mode is trash. I get everything I need from expeditions. Replaced my defenders with lucky star.
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>>164762362
stupid nigger

make 9 lucky stars, 1 golden snail each to max their luck and send them on expeditions
enjoy your 130 items per expedition
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>>164762302
show us what you got
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How do I reach Okusa? Do I need to defeat Jin-Die (the second one)?

An image of the tower floors would be great desu
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Do stingshroom and crushroom stack in terms of timer if you eat them, like guardshrooms?
>>
>>164761737
prep the bull cuck
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>>164762012
fuck you get back to the snail hunt you little bitch so i can invade your ass with my +4 hornet sabers and 4k defense
>>
>>164762738
someone posted it on reddit
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>>164762578
does it really bring back that much or is this some autism bullshit?
>>
>>164759438
The bodies Max and Jackson use are just fancier versions of COEN and Jindie respectively
>>
Does Uncle Death get high?
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>>164763401
DUDE

CLIMB THE TOWER

LMAO
>>
If I take a maxed out tier 3 striker, some transparungus, stingshrooms, fish and lifeshrooms I should be fine right?
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>>164763578
For what?
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>>164763578
Oh yeah I'm taking them to Jin Die 16
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>>164758830
That's all I've been using them on. Baka desu ne ka
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>>164763057
PLEASE im about to fight my first jackal
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>>164763763
>>164763765
Stupid anime poster, yeah you'll be alright just don't bring fish and lifeshrooms, sting and transparagus will be enough. Remember she's weak to slash.
>>
20 golden snails so far, boy I love snail day.
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Alright, got to 31f.
I've read to farm the picnic area.
What am I looking for?
What do I need to be safe to progress?
Is there any shortcut or route I can take to get t5 quickly?
Any tips for 31+ are very appreciated
>>
First it was the fucking machete, now it's the damn lighting rapiers. Please anons tell me, how do I survive them? They are popping up everywhere so suddenly.
>>
>>164764345
yeah theres a pretty good shortcut obara > osuki > togose > katsuma > uchinobu > nitanda > shina-yama then BAM g5 good luck friend
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>>164764537
purchase death metal
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>>164764580
>7 areas to get to 35f
Okay, this area is gonna be a pain.
At least they give guardshrooms.
Thanks!
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>>164764768
thats why its a short cut gotta go through a bunch of areas
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>>164764691
That's not solving the issue here anon.
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>>164764860
I know, I know.
But seeing how its not so easy like on t4, made me fear a little what's to come
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>>164764537
you can block them with the red hot iron, if you dont have one, you can spint to the side, or in circles to bait out the first 2 attacks then puninsh
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I'm very new at the game but what are all these blue R&D mats for? An example would be D.O.D metal and War Metal. My Inventory is full of them and I have nothing to use them on yet.
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NEW THREAD >>164765549
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>>164765632
they are for higher tier upgrades, later into the game, stick them in your box, or on a collector mule
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>>164765015
i have a feeling youll be just fine
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>>164765587
That's what I attempted to do and still attacked too soon getting caught. It was only my second encounter, the first being completely unexpected. People are sending decked out haters to Okusa. I guess I won't be heading there today. Expeditionso only, until I get better equipment/resistances it seems. I am not good enough to tackle them head on. I'm only a tier 3 striker.
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>>164763324
Yes, it has been tested. Higher luck gives more items from expeditions.
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>>164762012
If I see saber haters, I just sneak pass them. Not gonna even bother.
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>>164765863
use brain shrooms or fish shrooms to disable/kill haters/hunters then from there just sprint to the escalators, using a blast from your red hot if there are screamers on you
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>>164763057
I think one cancels the other one out but I'm not 100% sure. I remember I tried to eat a sting after crush and the sting buff under my health bar disappeared.
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>>164734829
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Pgl-JC2sgk
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>>164759608
Protip: Bone Tuber's block only works in a 180 degree cone in front of them. If you circlestrafe they will immediately stop blocking.
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Is there a radio station that play all the songs? It feels to me like each station only play one song on repeat.
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>>164766829
Different guy here. Good tip but my issue is when in open areas where there is no obstacle, how do I avoid getting hit by the sanic roll or starwars slash?
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>>164767931
The gold standard for Bone Tubers is kiting them into a wall, as they will attack right into it.

The roll has a fixed distance. You can just sprint or roll back if you're far enough away. The same goes for the spin.

Also, he blocks while charging the super attack, and it can sometimes track around walls, so stay on a different elevation.
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>>164767931
just hold down block and eat 80 damage my dude
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>>164750283
Tfw did the same in prep and my neurotic nature won't let me progress unless I have maxed stuff and whatnot for each set of floors.
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>>164751007
>you can only execute headshots with guns

Surprise kid, all attacks when struck at the head are headshots in this game and do extra damage.
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>>164751030
well you can do expedition instead and if you are lucky you might get some.
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>>164759892
Z.o.e 3 never ever
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