DENOUNCE YOUR FALSE RELIGION
Shadowverse is a free-to-play, class-based collectible card game similar to Hearthstone /hsg/
The expansion, Rise of Bahamut released on Dec. 29th.
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Platforms: iOS, Android, Steam (http://store.steampowered.com/app/453480/)
Official Website:
https://shadowverse.com/
Card Database/Deck Editor:
https://shadowverse-portal.com/
Intro Guide/FAQ:
http://pastebin.com/xNmQuDzR (read this if you're new)
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Ibw62rcFMrkvWl_KPKUuRC_0f7LbvwE27ubQ-EJo0oQ/edit?usp=sharing
Take 2 Card Rankings:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1k55fDS9LpX66H-pm5EgGouqwQSCF-sje-o5UwrXUwdI/htmlview#
Get your cheat sheets here (To be fixed): http://imgur.com/a/oj8uw
Card Collection Tracker/Pack EV Calculator:
Make a copy to edit your own.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1UyixeCyjXhdnFKgxTP-ILk_lMKBZ6kUoZHn9TaytYXo/edit?usp=sharing
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All-in-one Steam undub and uncensor UPDATED WITH BAHAMUT:
Link:
https://mega.nz/#!6IRACSjb
Password Key:
!47l0bjno5dE3Scb5C2-LCZNrhY7pDa3N1QfNQsRuq3U
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Updated card art package.
-Added RoB art
-Fixed Vampire Queen art which was flipped upside down
-Changed filenames to match the card names (card number is still included)
-1163 images, 1.68 GB
https://mega.nz/#!ukI2WaQa!Zn7RRA69BqYHOTw4_mBUJegmebn3n17yZpzOWsrPCTs
A growing collection of animated golds/legendaries:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1QUpZN9cgz0dvh637EYl5Pcx7PkXJlpufIL9Muc08jB8/edit#gid=1781390872
Come here if you want to search for card artworks:
http://www.corpetit.com/public/rage_of_bahamut/
Search by artists:
http://seesaawiki.jp/mnga_bahamut/
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You can listen and download both EN/JP voices for cards at this place:
http://usamin.love/sv.html
Get your iDOLM@STER Emblems and Sleeves with this guide:
http://steamcommunity.com/app/453480/discussions/0/152390648098880643/
KEEP PRAYING: >>164666585
>>164679670
does pendant work when they attack your followers too?
Reminder to remove elf
nth for kill random 1/1s if you don't want to get your boards wiped.
>>164679654
>dubcuck OP
What is this, Reddit?
Someone throw me a sunlight satan decklist
>tfw vampy is your friend
Just forest things
>>164679802
>Not liking Jamieson Price
Xth for JO
>>164679769
Use gold from daily missions to open packs.
That's about one pack a day.
>>164679762
Kys
>Jews are the best!
What did she mean by this
Should I craft 2 more Ancient Elfs and 2 more Roaches to unlock the forest class?
>>164679747
It's always on.
>>164679823
Try this guy's:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c41_3l-uu5I&t=1171s
>tfw no replay database to check for improve my skills
>have to rely on /svg/ judgement
https://my.mixtape.moe/fcvjvo.webm
What missplay i might have done here?
elves best girls
any cute aggro Erica netdeck for missions and dailies?
>>164679857
So what, is he taunting you? How the fug did it get that far?
Post the Aggro Sword list with Albert that's been floating around.
>>164679848
I want her to cute feet to rub all over my body.
>>164679995
just fill it up with 1234 officers +banner +alwidas and you will win
>>164679894
Remove elf lovers
>>164679920
https://twitter.com/mrppmh/status/816943640194879488
>>164679769
don't fucking play T2, it's a waste of time
What's the best bats list right now? i'm new so suck at making my own
>>164679952
you traded too much
>>164680171
>don't fucking play T2, it's a waste of time
Maybe if you're bad at the game it is.
what a silly hag
>>164680209
Netdeck anything and work from there, if you're new anything is going to work and the best list may vary on whatever the hell you're playing against.
>>164679920
build bannerdeck and climb with it
>>164680021
He kept trading into my followers when he should've gone face. He also used an odin on a fairy, had a Daria emblem and "Hardcore" flair. He was an idiot.
>>164680274
skelly bros always got your back
unga bunga me good card u bad card
Wait, Nep is finally back? Anyone got any images or webms of her getting played?
Who else /whaleJO/ here? Have 2 animated Albert and Daria and keep opening packs like a crack addict but the3rd one to complete the set keeps failing to drop....it's like they know what you want....
I wish I could reorder my decks, holy shit. I don't want to do it manually to keep the shit I'm playing on the first page.
>>164679986
That is the truth
>tfw teasing control decks by cutting yourself down to 6hp turn 4 only to heal all the way back up and winning the game
If i change my game to jap and post a screen of a random deck everyone will believe in it
Post cute feet from this game.
>dorothyfaggot BMing at turn 4 persuaded that he already won
I wish i could see his melting face.
>>164680461
why would anyone care though
>>164679848
She's my wife
>>164680492
>>164680171
I have no bahamuts, only 1 forte, only 2 odin. If I'm looking at this right, you stall and removal into forte and servant face and if you lose control of it you bahamut to reset?
>>164680072
Fuck, someone post it since I'm interested as well.
>>164680461
>People didn't do that with JO dragon
What could've been...
>>164680357
>granblue sleeves
the sign of a shitter
>>164680464
I absolutely despise the new Shadow deck. It's like being forced to play Hearthstone whenever you fight against them.
>>164679952
you missed lethal on 5
MSD + evo a minion on board + claw to face
RACKAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMU
>same exact 3 missions as yesterday
its like deja vu should I be worried? it's not even 20g shit either (3 and 4 with dragon + 6 ranked)
>>164677098
Just tried out Earth Rune successfullyin unranked.
Building walls is fun as fuck.
Thanks, anon.
>>164680464
>>164680464
UNRIVALED
>>164680640
Shadow should just be renamed to pizzadeliveryguycraft
>>164680634
Holy shit you fucking faggot at least post full res
Professor of Taboos is worse than useless
>>164679664
Wanted to play 2 Olivia, but I don't have the second one, so I play Gabriel.
>>164680634
>Posting worst girl
>_master1200
What a gay
Not gobu enough.
>>164680640
t. Havenhag nu-male
Is x3 angelic snipe a much for roach combo?
>>164679952
Turn 5
Evoing Vampy does 2 damage total
Evoing anything else with MSD on the field is 3 damage
>>164680582
without 2-3 forte or bahamuts/satans you won't build any decent dragon decks.
play banner and do dailies
>>164680695
>Liza will fade out because gobu mage needs to fetch roaches
>>164680751
Post Homu u little bitch
>>164680708
>tfw you matriarch her midgets for lethal right after she is played
>>164680287
How much do I already got of it? How many vials to make a real one?
anyone have the updated idolmaster sleeves?
>>164680862
A must*
>>164680764
Here's what I use. So I have experience when I say that
>>164681010
Yes.
>>164680770
As a side note, I am actually finding Gabriel to be more impactful, but I don't feel like dropping Olivia for a second Gabriel because Levi is still very strong even late game.
>>164681060
nvm i derped. had it already. assumed that censored issabelle removed them.
>>164680962
>>164680792
>forest is now elves AND goblins
be purged already
>>164680398
Make deck codes
Keep the browser open
Clean house
Use your deck codes to remake them in order
Make suggestion post on the forum
Post on twitter and reddit to rally users to come and bump it to show support
Get your *friends* to come post in it too
If you can get 8-10k posts blowing up the forum it'll get in next expy.
>>164680989
you have 3 banners so you are good to go
google it
>>164681216
>plebbit
>>164680634
>>164680751
S-shion?
So you like feets?
>>164680764
You just play him for fun. There's no reason to play Earth if you aren't Master or aren't playing Unranked. It is really unreliable and hardly has any actually good matchups.
You play it for fun. Getting a huge board with Earth is very satisfying. Having Taboo create a board of zombies is definitely one of the best feelings in the game, especially when done against something like Daria.
>>164679654
Can someone give me a good nep deck?
>>164681163
Forest will be anything it takes to enable their storm bug crutch. The class will never go away with that degenerate card still untouched.
>>164681010
the uncensor pack in op has them/
>>164680989
>real one?
1) banner sword isn't a real deck
2) 7000 vials for the other 2 alberts
>tfw got this from today's login bonus
Sahaquiel + Lucifer is a good combo right? I guess I'm gonna give Neutralcraft a try after all.
>finally convinced myself to stop bothering with arena because it is fucking awful
>now having a blast playing the game every time I play
So glad I made that decision.
I'm having decent fun in arena, I'm glad they didn't follow shitstone and do 12 win runs. I like drafting a deck and playing a few games then getting a new one. Also it's much easier to stomp shitters with less wins.
New fanfic
>>164679986
>>164680792
So what goes into a good gobu deck? Three on roaches, Feenas, gobus, and guidances?
>>164681562
rooting for burdman
Batfags everyone.
>>164680792
>>164681562
>Read that as Urias thrusts into battle
>>164680867
My dalies take 3+ hours or multiple days to do in d-rank. I've gotten advice for a budget blood deck, a budget banner, and a ramp satan. In general I'm tits up for my decks relying on them disconnecting or having even less cards of a worse deck.
>>164681562
Just like my yaoi fanfics
Really enjoyed playing shadowcraft luna in arena, is she good?
>>164681370
>No reason to play unless you have nothing to do, or just want dailies
Yeah, but that goes for the game as a whole.
>Turn 4 Levi Evolve
>Turn 5 Levi Evolve
>Turn 6 Levi Evolve
I sure enjoy taking 9 to the face for 3 PP
>>164681895
her only deck right now is a meme deck, so no
>>164681670
>tfw you bully them the whole game
>>164681894
Dude, that's like, gay.
>>164681943
You forgot the 3 Piercing Runes.
This is my first time seeing a Selwyn. He didn't do too well.
>>164681895
Yeah actually the second best pick
>>164681951
Who's good right now then?
>>164681562
Intern-kun is CUTE
>>164682009
And three 0 cost blade mages. And disaster witches. And magic missiles
>daria has no reach they say
>>164681290
You need people, they have people. I agree that everybody should stay apart but this is a different matter
>>164681943
thank god they're all still playing daria down in B so I can still crush them.
>>164682063
Bat bloodcraft and Daria runecraft seem to be the best right now
>>164681562
>somewhere out there in the world there is a guy that gets paid for this
>>164681974
So, what 3 drops have you been using? I can't decide what to do on that slot for the life of me.
I just got a 44'ish MB update
What was it?
>>164680792
Why is goblin mage so thirsty for the roach cock? Roach truly was born to suffer.
>>164682137
a virus
>>164681393
Put 3x of:
>Nep
>Mordecai
>Khawy
>Balor
>Lurching Corpse
>Attendant of the Night>maybe ding dong
Fill the rest with some other 2 and 3 pp followers with good last words to hold out, and a lot of board control spells + some Foul Conversions.
Play defensively until turn 8 and wreck shit.
>>164682137
it was a fix for the mixup on jap/english assets they made on the nepnep fix.
>>164681974
>fuck vampy 8
>8
seek help
I'm about to craft nep shadow and control blood, what i craft next? Pure seraph or tempo rune?
FUCK AGGRO BLOOD
>hurr durr me go face and also play followers that go face past wards
THIS IS A THOUSAND TIMES WORSE THAN ANY BRAINDEAD BANNER DECK
AT LEAST THAT SHIT GOT STOPPED BY WARDS
>>164681754
>>164681974
I bet you have angelic barrage you filthy bully
Yay my stupid control forest deck beat a daria player!
>>164680764
>bashing taboo when playing trash card like timeless witch and shadow witch
Retard.
>>164681562
We need a story mode for garuda.
I just fucking lost to Azazel.
Who the fuck actually uses that card?
>>164682123
Not him but personally I run 2x Ninja arts, 2x Blitz Lancer and 3x Healing angel
>>164681163
golbin mage is not a goblin. she is an elf that was babynapped and told she was a goblin
filthy goblins
>D-shitter summons ice-form right before my turn 8 when I'm playing wolf-bolt
Thanks!
>>164681918
You can play to succeed. You can play to grind. You can play to complete dailies.
Earth won't help you with any of that. The reason people play Earth is because the times you do win are so satisfying they justify all the times you lose.
>>164682281
>burn defense/temporary hp and transform with a big body
>comparing it to I'll waste all of your sigils and destroy wrong targets!
>>164682180
What sort of...assets? Must've missed that.
>>164682330
Really old CBlood lists
If you play daria you have a very tiny penis
If only she was viable
>>164681437
[ANGRY ROACHES NOISES]
>>164682432
I hope they feel bad for crafting 3 of her, that deck bricks so much
>>164682272
How do people get so mad at aggro decks?
I guess if this is the first card game you've ever played and they expect games to last 40 minutes while playing every card in their deck and win with some ridiculous combo.
I've been playing card games for 10 years or so I guess I've just gotten use to aggro being a thing.
>>164682405
it replaced some english letters with moon runes and uncensored isabelle's boobs.
Quick, post your favorite monster. Cute girls included.
>>164682280
>animated lily
too fucking cute
>>164682123
3xBlitz and 2xWhite Pally
>>164682493
I have won 14 of my last 15 games and only bricked hard in 3 of them
>>164681974
Bats are for bullying.
Dat feel when they could win but lol nope heal enough to deny their direct face shit lethals.
>>164682281
Timeless Witch is literally a heal for four HP for 4pp . The only time where she isn't is when they use Dance of Death.
And she doesn't require Earth Rites either. I prefer her over Veteran Alchemist. She can be a monster in the late game too.
>>164682432
Those are true statements. I'm also climbing the ranks fast as fuck, so I don't really care.
>>164682516
Oh, hah.
So nothing too much to worry about then
>>164681670
nice mompost
>>164680920
Only communists will stop using her
>>164682579rank c
>>164682672a3not like there's much difference
>>164682504
Babby's first card game, you shouldn't expect anything less than that outrage.
>>164681895
Shadow's very strong in arena. Overall, she's a solid T2 and may go T1 as the meta solidifies albeit a very, very expensive T1
Aggro with cerb/urd/reaper/attendant, use shadow producers and sexton+ghosts to stack shadows and drop tyrants to kill from hand turn 6-7, use shadow producers and sexton+ghosts to fuel shadow effects to trade for value in control shadow until you win con out, play a last words with nep and some other win cons, ward up and use a necropolis queen to outdraw and keep laying down 9-10pp a turn until you kill their hand and them. Shadow has a lot of strong golds and legos to work with.Midnight haunting another tyrant out after they've emptied their removal is the best feeling.
>play Dorothy
>brick a lot and lose
>take out Fate's Hand and put in Demonic Strike instead
>suddenly start winning a lot
I knew those shit cards were a dead draw most of the time.
Post ramp dragon lists. By the way, discard is a meme right? I don't think I'll ever play the deck, so I'm thinking about disenchanting the golds from that shit.
>>164682239
Pure seraph is a timeless chemo deck and everyone's turning against tempo rune hard as they can
>>164682446The first time that i read her name was "Worship Maid" and i only think about her worshiping my cock
In no world is Khawy balanced. Somehow the devs managed to create my three most hated cards in the game through this expansion.
>Khawy
>Albert
>Bahamut
They managed to all top Roach as being absolutely unbearable cards.
>aha we've finally found a solution to the aggro meta!
>what is it?
>a ward that also destroys the strongest enemy and heals!
>oh sweet it's going to be a great neutral optio-
>SHADOW ONLY XDDDD
>>164682279
Just Cyclone Blade aka the thing that makes random evolved 1/1s dangerous.
Is forest the worst arena deck? I love playing it in ranked, but without being able to consistently combo stuff it really seems to always lose. I win a lot with like haven, sword and shadow but always do horribly with forest.
>>164682875
losing cards for spells/cards that are only slightly better than other cards is dumb. a lot of the time the extra damage or whatever is overkill compared to the other classes cards too
>mfw banner Levi
>>164682446
She's good in Take Two.
Which is the best site to netdeck from?
>>164682952
Would you rather they have put him in Rune or Blood?
I don't think I'll get a better pack than this one.
>>164682493
>saying this in every single thread every time daria is brought up
>pretending it doesn't have one of the highest win rates and therefore success rates
>pretending other decks don't brick all the time especially midrange and control
>pretending daria isn't a well designed deck with a lot of outs, removal, and cycle in order to prevent bricking all the time
>>164682952
All of those cards are balanced compared to Yurius.
>>164680364
Where are the Neps guys, you said there would be Neps.
>>164682896
So should i craft some neutral legendary like dark angel olivia and/or odin with the remaining vials?
>straight losses in unranked for an hour
I-I just wanted my dailies
>>164683036
game-ai / gamewith
>>164683103
no skill deck netdecking baby deck confirmed
Wait, those Idolmaster sleeves are out now?
What shows for those sleeves if you don't have that decensor patch?
>>164682518
Arena made me realize how much I enjoy Dragroncraft, is there any deck that its viable on upper ranks?
>>164683223
Default sleeve. And they've been out
>>164683096
>Amelia
Same girl from the Mentor's Teachings card?
>>164682952
Powerful last word effects are a shadow thing tho
>>164683191
>statistics go against what he is saying
>the success of people who climbed like crazy with daria go against what he's saying
>you're just a netdecking baby XD!
Sounds to me like you're the one who copied a shitty Daria decklist and ragequit because you had no success with it
>Turn 7 Luna Neps Odin
>Next turn I plop down Seraph
I like this new meme deck
>>164683313
at the end she find a minotaur bf and become a succubus.
>>164682875
>>164682875
Don't. Discard's a T2 deck now thanks to baha cards. In general stop dusting shit. You'll be able to play far more decks after
>>164682952
If you didn't have control by T7 you already lost
If you had control by T7 and you lost it to a 7pp 4/5 you would have already lost
With all the shit in the game tech 2 Odin and even if you don't draw it he still blew a turn to trade for fucking nothing. You just hate it cause it's in your face.
SHIOH, WA GA KAMI NI
>>164682952
Keep crying bitch nigga
Cutest character, coming through
>>164683417
What are all the cards she shows up in?
>>164683417
That wasn't her
20995
My Vampy-chan found a jacket, but she needs concede.
20995
>>164683273
tfw daria actually killed off the penguin wiz deck
Is Nep good or is she just a meme?
I need to know what to reroll for
Why is Albert so good ?
Our boy Kamura is the beacon of light against the aggro menace.
>>164683495
Meme
Why is Yurius in Blood anyway? He is one of the Sky Knights who are all in Sword. And he is a baron, so he fits right into Royal.
>>164683435
Thanks. I'll try to see if I can fit Sahaquiel in this since I have two copies of her.
>>164683452
Yeah I think I'll keep the cards. After all the deck feels real nice when it works out.
>t5 Albert deals 15 damage over 3 turns
>hag finally manage removes it
>t9 Albert finishes him shortly after
>mfw
I fucking love this motherfucker
>>164683313
Yeah.inb4 mindbreak fanfic
>>164683056
I'd rather either he didn't exist or Nep didn't exist or that they didn't synergize together.
I'm already sick of this Shadow deck. I'm probably switching to Dshift because i'm tired of 30 minute matches where all Shadow does is play removal spells for seven turns then keep summoning Nep and trading with Mordecai until someone loses.
Aggro couldn't care less, but Khawy is obnoxious as fuck when you're playing Control. It's just another card in Shadowverse that punishes you for ever making good decisions.
>Siegfried punishes all trading
>Dance of Death punishes attempting to create a board/develop wards
>Piercing Rune punishes you for trying to contest the board
>Khawy punishes you for having decent beefy followers as opposed to a flooded board of tokens
The devs just need to stop trying to bother with Control. It's sad that people as incompetent as the Hearthstone developers are able to better design control.
I'm in love with Nep
>>164683103
>68% win rate going second
>"But I keep losing, this deck must be bad"
>>164683591
Because we need something to stop Elf and Sword being t1 sincethe release
>>164683490
If it had Storm it'd be like a rune Roach
>>164683531
Wait, she just summoned another nep. Is she bugged right now?
>>164683495
A good meme.
>>164683770
His effect could just be given to some other blood card. Yurius himself fits into sword much better
>>164683798
it's a graphical glitch i hear
>>164683798
It looks that way because when she puts things on board, she moves to the left.
She pulled Ding Dong, Hell Unleasher, Khawy, and Balor
>>164683313
yup and Gelt is probably the one that was mentoring her giving how protective he is of hershe probably polishes his axe every night
>>164683798
if you look she got pushed to the side.
>>164683691
I want toH U GAlbert !
>>164683798
Are you blind or just retarded?
>>164683859
Sir Yurius fits into sword. Yurius themes perfectly fine with blood.
>>164683906
No, her father was her mentor.
also reminder that you will never touch Amelia
>>164683905
>>164683947
Oh I see, didn't notice the hell's unleasher.
>Control Blood vs Shadow matchup
>I play down Matriarch
>Odin his Khawy
>he plays Nep
>none of the effects end up killing Matriarch
>it's a hearthstone deck so he didn't get Khawy from it
>takes a ton of damage from Matriarch procs
>immediately concedes afterward
I'm just hoping me contributing in shitting on these Shadow players will convince them to fuck off.
>>164683591
It was something Blood needed. They could have probably used Yurius the character for a different card in Sword and just made the Blood card someone else, but Blood was the one who needed a card with those stats and effects. He is one of the only Blood cards in their entire library of cards that can actually and maybe live more than the turn it is played.
>>164684012
so Gelt is literally a pedo stalking her
>>164683482
Can I get a concede, or wintrade please?
20995
>>164682993
Yeah. Forest/rune really suffer from not getting their combos linked up.
>>164683125
>Wrest control of the board, only have a fatty left on my side but I can removal any ward he drops and face for lethal
>Get nep'd
>two attendant/4pp 1/1 lich last word guy
>1 morde drops a stable morde
>Lurching corpses my only fatty out of the way
>He's gone from nothing to a 5/5 nep, 2 4/4 liches and a 5/5 morde and a removal for 8pp
>>164683128
An olivia is nice filler in anything until you get the netdeck. 1-2 odin is nice for blowing up a fatty or removing an amulet.
>tfw you've been playing Shadow since DE but you'll still get lumped in with all the morons jumping on the Nep bandwagon
Since the update I had some game texts in japanese and there was no censorship (didn't use the undub/uncensor). Now steam forced me to update again and isabelle's are back to normal. What a game.
When you get MEME'D on.
>>164684220
>This is the kind of retard you share a general with
>>164684089
>Shadow players will convince them to fuck off.
You sure like facing bats and daria rune all the time.
>>164684287
>enhanced albert does 18 dmg with this board
>>164684413
2 attacks are small time.
>>164683531
>Not being part of the aggro menance
>>164683906
>>164684012
Needs an NTR doujin
>>164684220
Who gives a shit? Just be yourself senpai.
>>164684357
>yfw you also share this general with cuteposters
Snacks? Check! Harness? Check!
Ok, I take it back. Dorothy is actually strong as fuck once you understand how the deck's supposed to work.
Is this a keepable roll? New to the game and mildly interested in playing forest or sword, but really have no idea what's viable or what I'm doing. Used every ticket, so I think this is from around 40 packs or so?
>>164684220
>Shadow-only in DE ranked
>Tfw every time you matched against a Haven
>She made up nearly 1/3 of all my matchups
I'm pretty sure we were the morons last expansion anon
>>164684358
Actually? Yeah. Tired of random destruction effects and having to trade 2 to 1 against every follower
>>164684538
>hurr dur i spellboost and play 0pp followrrs
>hurr i have 1 Daria in starting hand, me happy
>hurr i have 3 Daria in hand, gg concede
So hard right?
>>164684546
Kinda good roll show you golds
>>164684538
Are the people who spout "daria is actually bad" falseflagging rune players or are they actually this stupid?
>>164684678
Why u mad tho?
>>164683701
>I CAN'T AUTOWIN THE CONTROL MIRROR SO I'M GOING TO PLAY SOLITAIRE WAAAAH
i'm sure the dshitters will love to have you
How can Dorkfags even compete
Is this a good bat deck? I wanna get meta as soon as possible and only just have the amount of vials to make it
whats a goodnon roach dependantForest craft deck ?
I just got white wolf in a pack
I regret nothing
My first Nep
>>164684731
It's people who think Dorothy is their only wincon. I used to think like that too and intentionally withheld from playing spells because I "waste" them when they can be used on Dorothy. Half the wins were without Dorothy ever showing up at all.
>>164683701
I don't think Reno shit is my idea of "good design for control archetypes" but whatever.
>>164684682
I should probably read these
>>164684779
>>164684287
>tfw only 1 Leonidas
>>164682952
Khawyz doesn't fuck over aggro decks
Most of the time you're just spamming followers in real aggro decks and you're not worried about turn 7 or losing a single minion and them getting healed for 3 or 5 at most
What he really fucks over is dragon and ramp or other slower minion-based control decks. Literally why would I ever play a fucking big minion if my opponent can remove it for 2 with lurching or necro-assassin combo or toss down a Khawyz and get free removal and retarded amounts of healing.
All of the new cards shadow got make ramp dragon unplayable and pretty much force everyone to play stupid fucking aggro decks that kill people before turn 7/8.
>>164684738
I am not but saying you needed to understand how a stupid as fuck auto pilot deck works means you are pretty bad at the game
>control blood vs aggro blood
>he has yurius, the 1/2 vampire lady, and a lilith
>i had put down a veight, it is his turn
>he puts down two more yurius and has an evolve point
>he chooses to evolve one of the yurius he just summoned and kill veight
People really need to slow down. If he had attacked with both 1 attack followers and then Lilith, he would have summoned three bats.
>first two proc all three yurius for 6 damage
>last one procs the two surviving ones for 2 more damage
>lilith procs one damage anyway
>9 whopping damage
>i had 10 to begin with
>>164684358
Actually yeah I do. I like not having to deal with heavy RNG every turn and being punished for playing the game. Daria and Aggro Blood are fast, but not unbeatable. There are decks that reliably beat them that I would be using anyway. Every match I have against Shadow just feels like a series of coinflips. It is exactly what it felt like playing Hearthstone against certain decks.
>>164684105
Y-you'll never cuddle Amilia !
>>164683495
She's rng heavy that 100% relies on a very specific very expensive last word deck or she falls flat on her face as an expensive brick.
>>164684798
>skeleton knight
Why
I saw some guys running malicious ghost though. That could be interesting, although probably useless most of the time.
So how do you buy crystals with google play cards? Do you redeem them in the app store and the use them in game or can you redeem them directly in the game?
>>164684796
>alt art
oh thats fine dropping 4 steam bucks on a game you play a lot aint so ba-
>X2
ARE YOU STUPID?
>get swordcraft on T2
>Winning every match
>never won more than 2 before
explain lolbabs
>Trained by her father
>Father dies, she takes up his sword
>Enters some kind of battle
>Becomes a famous knight
>Gets into a rough fight she can't win
>Gets imprisoned by the victor
Amelia had a hard life. I know Mentor's Teachings and obviously Amelia, but do any of her other Rage of Bahamut cards show up in Shadowverse?
>>164682516
Got a comparison pic between US Ise and JPN Ise?
>>164685091
sword op in t2
>>164684885
For sword is a 7/10 start you also have good legos stick with that.
someone pls post seraph I need good pulls from these packs
Why are female gobs so cute?
And what the hell is with that unholy alliance of elves, goblins and hentai insects?
>>164684904
nigger hes only 800 gold
like
just melt down some animated cards or something
>>164685179
Thanks for the help
For roach combo do you run x3 angelic snipe or x3 felpurr kitty?
>>164684765
>being this angry someone doesn't want to constantly deal with RNG
Dshift hardly puts any followers on the field and the ones they do just die right when they play them. Playing around all those removal and deathrattles is nice.
I'm sorry you're too stupid to understand countering decks and avoiding dealing with bullshit when you can. A lot of us started playing Shadowverse because we got sick of the way Hearthstone is designed. Nep Shadow is exactly the same as a Hearthstone deck.
>>164684904
He summoned exactly one, ONE Leo. Two, TWO Urds later I lose.
>>164685038
That's probably Bone Chimera, not Skeleton Knight
>>164685080
Heaven forbid people invest money into things that they enjoy.
>tfw the opponent has 1 hp and makes a full comeback
I'M GONNA HURL
>Lost to PtP discard Dragon
I wanna fucking kill myself.
>>164685101
post the last one.
>>164685237
>Lunaposter begging for Seraph
IMPOSTER, your rolls will be SHIT.
Toughest choice ever.
>>164684964
>Literally why would I ever play a fucking big minion if my opponent can remove it for 2 with lurching or necro-assassin combo or toss down a Khawyz and get free removal and retarded amounts of healing.
hearthtards encountering Magic-style design for the first time and wondering why their unga bunga timmy fatties aren't playable anymore
"minion-based control decks" is a bad joke, either run real wincons or fight for tempo like a man you midrange cucks
>>164685261
>unholy
they all live in the forest and wanna protect their home
whats not to get?
>>164685384
>tfw
>>164685406E C S T A S Y
>>164685080
i needed other 2 mary and 2 queen 2 bond 2 revelation 2 temptress vampire for my control deck that's why, 11800 vials saved
>>164685494
I'M SO SICK OF THE SEA
>>164684515
NTR her from who? She has no lover, it's about as stupid as that DoD3 Zero NTR doujin.
>>164685305
>Nep Shadow is exactly the same as a Hearthstone deck.
It's really not. Nep Shadow doesn't have shit like Dr. Boom, Unstable Portal, Piloted Shredder, Knife Juggler, Magic Missiles, Ragnaros, Crackle, or Yogg fucking Saron. Khawy can hardly even be called random.
>>164685458
This
>>164684876
>literally enables people to have all one offs in a deck
>his introduction made a ton of cards that saw no play now staples
>made it possible for a new type of play
>did not kill aggro in the process
Reno is an excellent example of good card design. Of course people will hate him because he's annoying when you're trying to burst someone down, but he's not a bad card by any means.
>>164685421
What last one? I'm not familiar with all the cards, and those are all the ones with "Amelia" in the card name, other than event cards with her in a bikini or dress.
>>164685327
It was just a joke my friend
spending money on vidya is perfectly fine
so long as your not a NEET and actually have a job to support your habits
>>164685443
I don't like luna, I just didn't have another pic
>>164685571
the cardwhere she become a succubus.
>>164685571
post dress
>>164685458
Hopefully next expansion buffs haven again so this abortion of a class goes back to the trashcan where it belongs.
>>164683685
Don't dust in general. Between your welfare packs and the ez grab packs followed by all the added tickets and packs from getting 3-5 wins per ticket you'll have enough for about 4 budget decks that you glue together with golds and silvers to do ranked. Every week between cheevos, levelups, score rewards, dailies, and winning arena to double your money to buy more tickets you'll get about 10-20 packs a week. Within a month you can play knockoffs of about 12-ish decks from liquify extras and have most of a couple good decks on rng. Once you fill out most of your card pool the vials will start pouring in from the extras. and with all your experience and trying out different deck archetypes you'll be able to put together most of a netdeck while still being able to play other shit. Every expansion pack so far has revitalized a lot of the "dust it" cards. Discard dragon went from a funny meme like early dirt rune to a legitimate deck. Homecoming is good again burning the fags that melted it. Flute's got a niche with even more draw power in dragon.
>>164683701
>Not even bitching about themis, revelation, roach kill from hand, bolt kill from hand, T6 tyrant kill from hand, daria decks playing 150-200% of their max pp per turn, anything fat goes down to removal/effects, spreading the board goes down to removal/fatties, aggro goes down to wards, nobody can really deal with amulets without dying to anything else even from the same deck
>>164684220
Tyrants high brother!
>>164685530
18800 vials saved not 11800, sorry i fucked up with the math
>>164685261
Elves are very "loving" creatures.(^:
>>164685538
I suppose you are right. Still some mindbreak and Gelt being forced to watch would be nice.
>>164685578
Shit I wish I was a NEET sitting on a war chest sometimes.
>>164685548
I just don't like the idea of highlander decks, and what Reno does feels kind of heavy handed in general.
>Are you on the backfoot? RESTART THE GAME!
That's dumb as fuck to me I'm sorry.
>>164685443
also fuk u
>>164685651
Got a name for it? I don't know what it's called.
>>164685668
More of a skirt and apron, but it's not a leotard.
>>164685631
>>164685548
Reno's fine. It's annoying and uninteractive but can still be handled by HS aggro decks. Kazakus on the other hand turns Reno decks into unbeatable monsters.
>>164684964
Yeah I was wrong about the aggro thing. I corrected myself earlier. I was talking about him from a midrange or control perspective. He's a badly designed card that is too punishing. There's no reason why he's a ward on top of the effects he already has.
Trying to play this new Shadow deck using any control deck with big followers is really tedious. I've been using Control Blood almost exclusively lately. I'm winning most of the matches, but it's still boring and tedious. Every match is just me hoping his Neps don't give him what he needs and that he drew the cards he needed earlier. Either that or I'm praying the random RNG effects don't work for him or that his Urd/Necroassassin is buried in the deck.
It's not a matter of the deck being too strong, but more of it being poorly designed. I don't understand why they thought Nep or Khawy would be alright. Nzoth is better design than Nep .
>>164685740
I'm trying to build control blood too, what list are you going for?
>>164684790
A-anyone?
>>164685823
He's talking about the Dark Offering line in RoB, which is basically an Amelia lookalike
>>164684515
>>164685538
as much as I hate the mindbreak meme around amelia she is delicious enough to get kuroinu'd, there is actually a scene in the hentai about a mentor raping his mentee that is also his son's wife, top kek
>tfw you manage to win with Anne and Grea
I didn't think it was actually possible, almost Neutral deck stronk
Calamitous Curse is one of my favorite cards in the game. I like everything about it, I think the name, art, flavor text, effect, they all fit so well.
Same for Professor of Taboos, with the added bonus of him having one of the best voice actings in the game.
Almost makes me feel like playing dirt rune.
>>164685101
It's not just her that gets captured. It's her entire company.
>>164685748
She's probably 300+ and had every kind of sex a human could possibly imagine and more.
>>164685458
>hurr durr let's invalidate an entire class mechanic because I'm a huge faggot
You're a fucking retard. I'm glad shadow is still shit and hope Haven completely cucks it for the rest of this card game because of retards like you promoting retarded game mechanics
>>164684790
It's good. Plus the Mastemas are optional, so you could add one more Yurius/Gobu/Demonic Strike instead.
Aggro blood deckbuilding isn't very diverse you know. Deal face damage. Thingken of fast.
>>164685959
Grea's great, we were wrong
>>164685651
it's not her, retard
>>164685261
That looks like a priestess, Time for a rescue mission.
Also: I need a concede in room 58570
>>164686006
Dirt rune is a great concept that works like shit in practice.
I spent 3k vials on it before realizing it.
>>164686030
>tfw you hear Amelia getting raped in the other cell
>>164685720
>Discard dragon went from a funny meme like early dirt rune to a legitimate deck
don't you mean dirt rune went from a funny meme like discard dragon to a legitimate deck
because, y'know, 35%
ugh, so boring...
>>164685101
She can't even blame the enemies for gangbanging her if she goes to battle dressed like that.
>>164685541
>controlled RNG
I'm sick of this meme. This is bad card design. If a card has an effect way too strong for its cost, but the effect has a degree of randomness to balance it out, then it is bad card design.
Does it make it as bad as a portal card from Hearthstone? No, but being not as bad as shit doesn't make it okay.
And yeah I'd say plenty of the Nep cards are as bad as Rag. If you're constantly crossing your fingers praying something automated won't target something you want, then it's just shitty RNG.
Necroassassin is the epitome of awful card design.
>>164686030
>when your gf is getting fug by BIG DEMON COCK
>>164686129
cry all you want humy she be DEMON'D
>>164686173
Great concept that would work in a different game
I genuinely didn't know that gold was a card that exists
>>164684546
Show your golds too. Legos are great but you can do a fuckton with golds and silvers. The pastebin tells you a lot of that. Once you do
Open a private match room, put your user name in the 4chan post name field, make sure your sound is on and you can hear it then post the match id. Play 20 private matches without conceding to get 2000 gold.
Play the story mode for free cards and experience with each deck
Beat the practice match elite difficult AI for each leader for 1400 gold total
Look up budget deck lists and look over what you have and put together some crapass deck and play some ranked to get your dick wet.
Play your take 2 arena tickets out for ~14 packs
From here it depends. If you reliably went 3 wins 2 losses in arena, you'll want to turn your gold into arena tickets to get +50-100% more of your value. Keep updating a deck for each leader as you unpack cards and do every daily. Turn that gold into more tickets. Log in daily for the login reward. You should be getting 10-20 packs a weeks. Buy some DE and a few Baha packs at some point. If you want, save up some gold for the Bahamut ticket arena reward event at some point to rake in and clear out the cards you need from that set. If you can't reliably 3-2, do NOT buy tickets. You'll just piss away your dosh and time.
Or just buy straight packs cause you hate yourself and everything good in the world.
>>164685871
I'm building one right now, i'll finish it with dark angel olivia that i need for my ramp too i'll change her with odin if needed.
Still i'm not sure about righterous devil maybe i'll change it with diabolic drain i need to test it
Is Dirtcraft worth making or should I just make a shadow deck/discard dragon?
>>164686087
Oh good, i'll add one of each of those instead so i use up less vials
>>164685761
>restart the game
>you still lose if you don't regain board control, and playing a 4/6 for 6 certainly doesn't help with it
Yeah, there's no curing your stupidity.
>>164686330
>>164684546
>>164684885
Don't liquify your cards in general. Between your welfare packs and the ez grab packs followed by all the added tickets and packs from getting 3-5 wins per ticket you'll have enough for about 4 budget decks from liquify extras that you glue together with golds and silvers to do ranked. Every week between cheevos, levelups, score rewards, dailies, and winning arena to double your money to buy more tickets you'll get about 10-20 packs a week. Within a month you can play knockoffs of about 12-ish decks and have most of a couple good decks on rng. Once you fill out most of your card pool the vials will start pouring in from the extras. From that play experience you'll know what you want and you'll be able to craft most of it from your liquified extras while still being able to play budgets of a bunch of other decks. Every expansion pack so far has revitalized a lot of the "dust it" cards. Discard dragon went from a funny meme like early dirt rune to a legitimate deck. Homecoming is good again burning the fags that melted it. Flute's got a niche with even more draw power in dragon.
>>164686239
I still have more fun playing it (in unranked) that ranking with fucking Daria.
I just wish to climb rank while building walls.
>>164685720
Why would I complain about a long list of controllable things that involve outplaying someone, comboing, or just countering what they are doing?
There's nothing wrong with that compared to a bunch of cards that are heavy RNG and can either save you or doom you depending on what their effects, which are completely out of your control, do.
I ask again: How is this any different from all those times people play a Hearthstone card and cross their fingers hoping the automated effect hits exactly where they need it to?
>>164686330
It's the best control deck in the game.
>>164684851
Clark is pretty busted. He does too much for normal 3 cost follower stats. Piercing Rune is the DoD of this expansion except worse and only restricted to one class.
so nep deck sucks right? i just playing against one with swordcraft and absolutely destroyed him
>>164686183
>Going for Amelia instead of Gelt
>>164684964
Ramp dragon was still cucked in DE. Shitterverse is pidgeonholed into aggro or use last word/summons effects with draw to blood the board with midranges that are too strong for weak AoE and cuck single target removal until they have a dead hand or get faced.
>>164686471
How can that be possible when it loses badly to ramp, dshift, anditself
>>164686297
>>164686225
>>164686404
>>164686436
So much text is a good card.
>>164686330
Its a deck that feels good to play because it has good chances to win against anything except Dshift
If you like a grindy value oriented playstyle you should try it out
What's the worst card in the expansion?
My money is on this.
It costs the fucking same as execution if you combo for it (two 1 drops). What's the fucking benefit?
>>164686404
Thanks for the advice. I don't plan on liquifying anything other than maybe the golden legendary after I've really decided on what I want to do. I've got a pretty substantial hearthstone collection and I learned a while ago that it's never worth dusting cards.
>>164685823
>Satisfy your ryona and corruption fetishes
>Get away with it by officially being a different person
Artist had it good with Amelia.
>>164685930
I can't find a Dark Offering card. What name does it go by?
>>164686030
Shit, that's not cool. Poor Gelt.
>>164686471
NO
WINCON
>>164686646
The benefit is that it kills Yurius on turn 3.
>>164686225
It is never a goddamn surprise who Khawy will kill. He will always go after the highest attack creature.
>>164686376
Reno is similar to Lich's Mirror, a card I despise for the exact same reasons. Both have their flaw that you mentioned and both cards are incredibly fucking boring control effects. But I guess Reno's existence is just a byproduct of how fucking bad Hearthstone is in the first place.
>Drop Nep with the Matriarch on board
I dun goofed.
>>164686006
Earth Rune has a lot of my favorite cards too. They are satisfying, great card, and work together in a way that's really nice. If it was Hearthstone then the deck would probably work a lot better, but it just doesn't work in Shadowverse. The more they add to it to try to fit it into the meta, probably the less it will feel like an Earth Rune deck.
>>164686646
Elf of the Gemstone.
>>164686225
Nobody ever wants to account for the fact that sometimes, you won't have be in a position to actually control the effect, and it can be gamechanging if left to chance.
>>164686790
Khawy is hardly the only RNG card worth noting
>>164685038
Chimera's the 3pp 1/1 that summons two 1/1 skels. Skel knights the 3pp 3/1 that summons one 1/1 skeleton.
>>164685091
Sword and shadow are horrifyingly strong in T2 cause they don't need combo, they have high stat cards but also cards that summon others to stay on the board and they're resilient enough against removal to not give a shit about anything
>>164686815
Eh, you've got the Khawy heal.
>>164685261
because they are kidnapped elves
goblin niggers steal babies
>>164686225
>And yeah I'd say plenty of the Nep cards are as bad as Rag. If you're constantly crossing your fingers praying something automated won't target something you want, then it's just shitty RNG.
>Necroassassin is the epitome of awful card design.
I literally don't understand why they couldn't make these card effects actual edicts. I know it breaks the rule of no input on your opponent's turn, but honestly it's confined to one class and picking a creature to sacrifice doesn't take that long. I know mobile games have to be short, but games that go long go long anyway, and games that end quickly won't have many turns on which shadow players can trigger their destruction last words. If it's really a problem just make the choice window incredibly small and have it default to random if no choice was made; it would still be better than the current system.
>>164686471
>>164686639
Can you post a good dirt list then? I can go to gameai/gamewith but I think i'd prefer something that people here recommend
Truly Elite AI.
>>164686646
How would people feel about a 4-cost neutral Swords to Plowshares? It still doesn't target amulets.
>>164686832
>Jews are the best!
>>164685101
A lot of them do.
>>164686759
Endlessly swarming the field and eating away your opponent's ressources is a good enough wincon
>>164686981
elite in contrast of the other ais, of course.
>>164686725
I actually don't know what the card is called in RoB, but it's Dark Offering in SV. Maybe that'll help solve the mystery.
>>164684790
It's more or less the staple. There are slight variants to this deck. It all depends on how many Demonic Strikes you want and if you want to run Mastema. It's a very effective deck and is pretty much the one everyone on ladder is using when they play Aggro Blood.
That being said I personally run triple Yurius and remove one of the 1pp ladies since they are a dead draw later on.
Only thing about running three Yurius that can suck is that if you're relying on the Goblin to draw a wolf or vania as a finisher, then he can get in your way sometimes.
>>164686826
Yeah, slow counter deck is almost opposite of what SV is designed for.
Expendable wards to block storm, transform/banish removal, key followers with powerful combo effects.
>>164687002
IIRC in MtG you can go above 20, right ? So using Swords to Plowshares will at least always have a small downside.
Here, if opponent is at 20, the card is straight busted.
>>164686639
>it has good chances to win against anything except Dshift
please post dick, because I'm getting raped with it
Are you done opening Bahamut packs yet?
>>164685384
>Every time you're 1 turn away from lethal but can never seal the deal turn after turn until you're given the sweet embrace of death
Just tuck me in, leave me to die
>>164685421
From 10 packs.
>>164684790
>>164686087
>>164686337
>>164687069
no love for demonic storm? :\
>>164687191
not that one, the one where she is a succubus.
>>164687205
free dust
>>164686305
Id 100% drop Devil. Its incredibly clunky to use and a dead card without evolve.
>>164687205
>not opening them 1 by 1
>>164687205
gib me your luck
>>164687205
>3x Vampire Queen
Wew, free legendary of your choice!
Or are you one of the retards who will keep spouting "control Blood will be good this time, this time is different!" for the 3rd fucking time?
>>164686305
swap devil for odin and a blood pact.
>>164687381
>ungas bungas being THIS mad
whew !
>>164687189
Nah, need some golds and leggos still, so I'll probably keep opening baha packs this and next month then start saving for the next expac.
>>164687381
kys
Hilarious how daria has both the potential for a much lower cost than nep and a much stronger and reliable effect
>>164687205Have you considered Midrange Blood?
>>164687381
This guy is still angry that his Iceblade Warfiend Control Blood deck failed.
A patch came out now my game runs very slowly, how do I fix this?
>>164686639
>>164687172
https://shadowverse-portal.com/deck/1.3.5-gkQ.5-gkQ.5-gkQ.66IXe.66IXe.66NA2.66NA2.6A8t6.6A8t6.6A8t6.62UtQ.62UtQ.62UtQ.62UOA.62UOA.66IXo.66IXo.66IXo.62XKI.62XKI.62XKI.66Kjo.66Kjo.66Kjo.62Z12.62Z12.66PcI.66PcI.6ABJM.6ABJM.66NvE.66NvE.62ZWI.62ZWI.61SDy.65GMo.66NvE.66NA2.68zBM.68zBM
This is what I use, the deck takes getting used to it a bit but I think its one of the best T2 decks to climb with
>>164685101
Is the guy other than Amelia and gelt someone with a name or is he just a nameless guy that appears in those cards?
>>164687292
devil without evolve is better in the later game than raider without evolve is, and you need to run a certain number of 4 drop heal creatures
>>164687003
VANISH LIKE THE JEW
based ronaldo
Cucking Roach players with my Evolve Dragon.
>>164686087
>>164687069
So this should be fine, right?
Offscreen are the 3 dancing deaths and imp lancers
give me some cheap lists for dailies. need all classes.
Has anyone tried the PtP runecraft deck on Game AI? I've been wanting to try a PtP deck and I randomly pulled 2 darias recently.
Also what is the best PtP deck?
>>164687381
>aggro fag getting so booty blasted by control in ranked he has to come lie on a chinese cartoon website
>>164687671
why is that card in your deck
>>164687628
I run the jap list that the guy was getting a 72% winrate with in Masters.
Its been working great for me and doesnt run Devil. But even without that people have been dropping Devil left and right.
Can someone post a Daria decklist please?
>>164686974
This is what I'm using inlow master.
6-4 record with it on last 10 matches.
>>164687189
No but I only need about 3 cards from standard and DE so I can open forever
>tfw still beat Elanigger after getting triple themis'd
>>164687602
>2 Pascale
I have/can afford the rest but not them.
What could I use instead?
>>164687671
>MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM look i unga dragunga !
>>164687671
what the fugg is that deck
>nep mirror match
fuck this shit. complete rng fest about who goes first and draws the most nep/mordes and whether they have the tempest to counter your breath
>>164687308
You can open them 1 by 1 and then press skip after opening the last card in the last pack to get the summary screen
>>164687710
Looks good to me
>>164686330
Dirt's a great timeless deck that you can tweak for variety since it's basically the support for whatever win con you want to tech in.
>>164686436
What I described was included in the list of shit you were bitching about. They did the same shit. In fact some did it better than what you listed. That's just how it is. You have to be good enough at something to seal the deal or accept that you're going to go home without +100 score cause cygames embraces a 3-d rock paper scissors of fatties, board control, face, removal, aoe removal
>>164686330
No. Only make an Earth deck if you just happen to have the cards.
>>164686471
It really isn't.
>>164687862
>mirror matches are based around whoever draws better
Wow you don't say
>>164687862
Welcome to seraph mirrors.
>>164685862
Shadow has a huge problem with most of its wards attack/def being offset so they eat shit on a lot of evo trades into them on top of many of them having shadow effects you can't decline so when the obvious removal bait gets removed you're down that many more shadows.
I'm an A3 shitter playing unga blood. When do I start to have a bad matchup against control blood? I know it's a skill-based deck but in theory A rank players should already have a favored matchup against aggro blood, which I am just not seeing. All I have to do is completely disrespect them and they very rarely give me even as much trouble as an elana deck would.
>>164687919
Sweet, any mulligan advice on what to always keep?
>>164687454
Thanks, i will try it
>>164687292
Yeah i saw that list too i'll probably swap devil i just want to try it for a few match, thanks
I feel like my ramp deck could use some tuning. Any suggestions?
https://shadowverse-portal.com/deck/1.4.5_394.5_394.65BUS.65BUS.66giC.66giC.5_38w.5_38w.5_38w.6AaSQ.6AaSQ.6AaSQ.62sZM.62sZM.62sZM.62v0O.62v0O.62v0O.5_4sI.5_4sI.66j8S.66j8S.61NLm.61NLm.62sZ-.62sZ-.6AY0A.6AY0A.62xRs.62xRs.62xRs.62zty.62zty.66laY.66laY.61SDy.65GMo.694Vo.694Vo.62xRi
All these neps at A2.
Literally easy mode as control blood.
3rd in a row now suddenly.
HAHHAHAAHHAAH
They immediately conceded
>>164686538
Everything about the deck is just coinflipping, but it can most certainly be strong. The thing with Nep is that if you weren't running her, the deck would still be mostly the same in terms of a Control Shadow composition. She just adds a lot of firepower for turn eight.
Seems to have some strong matchups, and arguably the most removal of any deck right now which can make it sometimes do well against aggro. It only uses shadows for removal and it generates a ton of shadows so you always get massive Foul Tempests
>>164688214
Post dick
>>164687851
Evolve dragon.
Neptune, Megalorcas, Grea, Olivia, Reina Mushussu, Transmogrified Wyrm, Simulcarum and some ramp to be able to play any of this.
>>164688290
>khawy is balanced
>>164688296
>It only uses shadows for removal and it generates a ton of shadows so you always get massive Foul Tempests
This. So comforting and securing.
>>164687741
I will grant that it's a clunky card and probably worth cutting in this meta, but just saying "useless without evolve" isn't necessarily the best way to look at it. Righteous devil does alter your matchup spread in a way that other cards don't; it's not strictly inferior. Even as the trend of people cutting it continues I wouldn't be surprised if people who bring control blood to tournaments bring righteous devils with them.
>>164687824
Pascale isnt mandatory for the deck to work but it helps sealing out a lot of games
If you cant afford her try out some late game finishers, maybe a second Olivia, Gabriel, a third Juno/taboo or some more early game stuff
always dark angel or do i even need it?
>>164687730
Super secret tier 0 Daria PtP.
>>164688478
snowman decks are alwayscool
>Checking Match Results
>waiting for opponent's connection
>in a fucking unranked non take two match
Seriously?
>>164688478
Doesn' Daria banish instead?
>>164686759
>Put one in it
Well there we go.
How does this dirtcraft/concede rune deck look from gameai?
>can't remind these gooks what huge faggots they are because muh delicate sensibilities dictates no chat
not even hearthbabbies are this soft
Daria is such fucking bull
Goddamn +5 potential and makes some spells free or insanely good to boot
>>164688452
always olivia
>>164688340
Bahamut is optional. could run a 2nd Odin instead but I dont have one.
99554
need a concede, thanks in advance
>>164688716
pearl harbour never happened.
>>164688716
>Talking to other people for any reason
Go back to League retard
>>164688180
Pls respond
>>164687002
Zero reason to take it over execution which can remove troublesome amulets. As a dragon player who can serpent's wrath most shit for 4pp, you get much more value being able to blow up amulets
>>164683294
Yeah, I figured I'd be the last to find out.
I'm a slowpoke since I barely visit the threads
>>164688717
they brick way more than they daria you on 4.
>>164688706
>No dwarf
>>164688706
>Daria goes in aggro, dshift, and now dirt
Truly 10/10 balance.
>>164687214
The meta is really aggressive so often times that card either kills you or prepares you to die.
You would rarely want Demonic Storm over Demonic Strike.
>Dragoncuck mad he lost with his 50k vials deck
He was at 4hp and had Siegfried on board. He could've killed Yurius and then Fafnir to remain at 4hp, but he went face like a fucking retard.
>>164688706
>>164687189
How the fuck do you afford that?
>>164687265
That's not Amelia though but whatever.
>>164688706
>Daria x2
Why?
>>164688069
>>164687862
Welcome to all mirror matches in card games
>>164688798
Thank you.
>>164688953
Best Yuusha.
>>164687671
>tfw the olivia simacs hit just right
Hnnnnnng
>>164688852
This is true but even if they're holding 5 Daria is still a solid play. She feels really out of place in SV. This may just be my newness shining through but compared to most other cards which provide some support and need some support she just seems like a straight drop it and go straight off from there
28565
I need a win for daily, thanks in advance.
>>164688161
You want to have a 1 drop in your hand, but usually don't need more than one. You also really want a two drop. Generally speaking Yurius takes priority followed by Vania and then the Wolf. I say this because the Wolf loses to a lot of stuff right now (Rune just Magic Missiles it) and is better used as an evolve card honestly.
If Veight is in your starting hand you should probably keep him. ALWAYS mulligan out anything above three cost though.
Long story short, make sure you have a turn one or two drop. Any is better than none.
>mobile game
>tailored around fast games
>control decks are extremely viable
Don't get me wrong I love the style of gameplay but why is it allowed
Need a concede
91418
Thanks
>>164688620
Daria is just there to refresh your hand. Altered fate, snowmen, and cantrips get you the shadows for ptp.
How can I learn to save gold? Whenever I get 100 I buy packs instantly.
>>164689202
even control games don't last very long
>>164689231
that's fine unless you wanted to buy Vania or something
>>164688706
>fate hand
That shit is at 3+ cost most of the time. Never understand why people run that in Earthrite.
>>164689013
I feel this may be relevant to people's interests.
https://exhentai.org/g/341600/c079d89f3c/
https://exhentai.org/g/467775/cbde8ebb1f/
https://exhentai.org/g/524774/f935d86d6c/
>>164689202
Some people just enjoy that style of play senpai. Some folks like going fast, others like running their race.
>>164689013
They coverd so many fetishs with her its not even funny
>>164689231
control your autism
>>164688929
>Aggrobat shitter
>calling someone else a retard
Kill yourself.
So is Urd/Balor worth running in a nep deck?
>>164689202
Game isn't going to last for very long if it's just 3-minute aggro decks racing each other.
Dragoncraft who discarded his whole hand for angel crusher and surrendered after i killed it with call of cocytus please tell me you are here.
I laughed like a fucking idiot for a minute
>>164689443
Impossible
>>164687715
Forest is replace tier unless you got a ptp. you might have enough of something to eke out a win but it will 100% always be because they had a worse deck, misplayed or bricked.
Budget Aggro blood
You'll have enough of spellboost rune to eke out some wins but it'll be very inconsistent. Can also ptp budget dirt rune if you drew it
Budget Storm haven
Budget Banner sword
Budget Ramp dragon and tech in a neutral like satan, olivia, or whatever neutral/dragon legos if you're missing shit
Read the deck lists for shadow and just run a hybrid with what you got. It's inconsistent but it'll get it done
As always, mulligan skill is +30% winrate on top.
>>164688923
>often times that card either kills you or prepares you to die.
How? If it clears a single evolved follower of theirs, it has necessarily been at least life-neutral for you if not life-positive. If you went first and it clears all their unevolved followers, it also delays their ability to send their 3rd evolve to face, unless they have a storm follower, which isn't always the case. I love demonic strike but oftentimes when I'm looking at a turn 6 play, I've started to lose board so demonic storm shines, and I've spent all my 2-drops for tempo on turns 4/5 so demonic strike's lower cost wouldn't matter much.
>>164688829
I'd say the same back but you already have one bad game on your platter
>>164689231
There isn't actually any reason to save up gold unless there's a new expansion coming soon or you want an alt leader.
>>164689389
Fuck man
I feel bad for you
On another note, what is your current thoughys on the deck
>>164688706
>No Dwarf
>Daria and Fate hand
>NO FUCKING REMI
Pretty mediocre build i'd say
post top 3 favoritetit cows
>>164680305
>trading when you played wolf/rose queen
Daily Concede please
34745
Doomsayer in SV when
>>164689450
Found the mad dragoncuck.
>>164689612
>>164689747
ayyyyyyyyy
>>164689202
>ending games before T9
Its like you dont want to actually feel like you outskilled them and feel good about your win.
Aggro is only about what curve the draw card gods wants to give you and thats no fun.
>>164687715
Just make a Neutralcraft deck and use whatever removal/utility spells you have from any given class.
>>164689706
Thanks much!
>>164689747
whatever
how do we fix forest?
>no outstanding decks outside of roach comboing
>actually runs 40% neutrals non ironically
>80% of legendaries are useless in most cases
>no awesome amulets to build a deck around
>>164689469
Urd is mandatory, Balor is garbage.
If I'm playing aggro blood and my opening hand is 1 ambling wraith 1 yurius 1 blood wolf, do I mull away the blood wolf to increase the average burn value of my topdecks and hope for a 3 drop / 2 drop without storm in my opener and first few cards? Or do I keep the blood wolf for a guaranteed T3 / more flexibility on later turns?
Does this change based on whether I'm going first? Does this change based on what class I'm queued against?
>Trying to play fun decks in unranked.
>Get matched against tryhards 7 games in a row.
Sucks.
Any ramp players that would like to give me some pointers on the deck? I realized I had the cards to build pic related, and it would help a lot if I got some feedback on the deck.
>>164689612
>FUN
DID I HEAR SOMEBODY SAY FUN ?
NO
FUN
ALLOW
>>164689980
UNGA BUNGA
>>164689612
>you will never be Beast Dominator's slave.
Why live?
>>164689163
Thanks, i'll keep all that in mind when playing!
>>164689202
"Control" in this game literally just means turn eight or nine. This game is extremely condensed.
>>164689998
>waaaah
So now that the dust has settled, what deck would you consider the most modest?
>>164688180
Seems good. Want to take 2 of the sky dragon ethica for hitting 7-10 faster? I don't know much about durrgin but I figure if you're backing olivia it's less of an issue to use her and it'll help you get some pp gain before turn 7.
Want a dragon emissary for drawing your heavies and helping you be able to play a (4)5 and a 6 pp in one turn?
You're kind of fugged for draw though so good luck against the inevitable board clear spam.
I'm a shitter though so take anything I say with a grain of salt.
>>164689998
Define tryhard.
Why do ungarunes always take 3 minutes to end their turn? Its turn two he spent all his PP what the hell is this idiot thinking about? Why do they ALL do this?
>>164689949
Ancient Elf and Roach are too strong for Forest to get good new support. They need to give those cards a reasonable nerf to open up design space for new good cards.And then actually print those new good cards, unlike what Blizzard did with Blade Flurry.
>>164690003
>there are people right now that would rather rely on Sahaquiel + Gilgamesh than on Genesis alone
If your name is clauss you're a faggot.
>>164690010
>>164690087
Blood is truly the best class for waifu
>>164689949
It's fucked, they based too many cards around 1/1 faerie spam 'combo' mechanic. Even most of their control cards don't work without 2 card plays.
Also what >>164690280 said. They have to kill Roach to save Forest.
>>164686538
Incomplete nep decks suck. You have to have a full very expensive deck list to get it to work. But once you do oh baby does it work.
>>164690264
thinking of playing 0pp shit
think greyhound sexton x3 in a deck makes it worth it to run voices of resentment instead of other similar removal? i doubt i'd ever use it on turn 8 in nep nep
mook won't let me deselect the file to upload by closing the box and redoing it, and it says it's a duplicate, so here's to picking another random photo
>>164690280
>And then actually print those new good cards, unlike what Blizzard did with Blade Flurry.
You're triggering my PTSD. Not joking but that nerf killed the game for me.
>can see idol shit unpatched
>witch tits
based cygames
>>164689980
Doesnt matter what you pick.
I will just smite you wicked aggro scrubs and laugh when you sit there with 2 cards in hands and absolutely no way to get lethal.
>>164690308
I got two copies from packs and want to use her. Besides it's not like it's the decks only wincon.
>>164689231
Get a job instead of being neet scum. Your inner jew will overwhelm you
>>164690419
I hope you have more than 11 HP senpai
>>164689980
I try to remove all direct damage cards from my hand during the mulligan. Only exception is Wraith and the Wolf if it is the only two drop.
Those cards are great later in the game when you can no longer have a board, but they are terrible early because then all those cards you have that don't immediately do something become dead cards later.
>>164689231
They say you never know the worth of a dollar until you have to work for it anon
>>164690591
dunno how it works against shadow aggro.
Havent met a single one this expansion.
What is the best Sword deck right now? Midrange?
>use of wards
>>164690741
Control
>>164690264
Can you fuck off with this forced meme?
Also they are thinking about if they should play any of their 0 cost cards. I know it is hard for you to believe, but there is thought that goes into playing any deck.
They also make be thinking about how they want to coordinate Daria.
>>164690148
Not really. Dirt is a Control Deck and it can't win before turn 10 unless their opponent bricks or they open amazing.
Unless you mean -viable- Control decks.
>>164690869
What zero cost cards can they possibly have on turn 2 exactly?
>>164690869
>d-don't call me unga
>>164690869
Found the Daria fag.
>>164690864
Really? I thought that this list was pretty accurate
>>164690864
post dick
>>164690928
Emmy
Open Emmy + Craig + a Level 1 Spell
>>164690280
>try out hearthstone
>really like rogue
>love oil rogue
>blizzard comes in and removes half the cards from the game despite the game not even being old
>goodbye to oil rogue
>well at least I can play it in that alternate mode with all the cards
>they nerf blade flurry
>they say it is because it was limiting design space
>next few expansions come out
>virtually no good new rogue cards
>forced into miracle rogue forever
>weapon is never even relevant
>deck always feels like gimmicky trash that isn't at all fun to pilot
Fuck Blizzard and fuck you for reminding me. Even when Rogue is strong (like right now), I can't bring myself to bother with the game because I find Miracle Rogue so fucking boring
>>164690730
I think it makes more sense to go midrange for a face build just because of the strong enhance cards and durability.
That, and control got a huge boost, so people want to use that. Aggro is still an okay option, it's just no longer the only one.
>>164691010
Forgot link https://shadowverse.gamewith.jp/article/show/22277
>>164690927
>it can't win before turn 10
Pascale is run for a reason
>>164691060
>Level 1
SABER STRIKE
SABER STRIKE
>>164690730I actually dislike playing against Control Blood entirely because of how massive a tempo swing Righteous Devil can be. That said if I can get Cerberus out and put you at 11 HP with Phantom Howl in hand then it's still GG. Always stay above 11 HP when dealing with Aggro Shadow from turn 6 onward. You'll know it's them when you see Shadow Reapers and Cerberus, I'm pretty sure Nepthys focus builds which are all the rage right now dropped those two.
WAHHHHThird one I think, nice shiny.
Nice Bahamut you got there....
>>164691042
https://shadowverse-portal.com/deck/1.2.65BUS.65BUS.65BUS.625lc.625lc.625lc.628AI.628AI.65z2e.65z2e.65z2e.65-lY.65-lY.69k0M.69k0M.69k0M.6923i.6923i.6923i.69oui.69oui.69oui.62D2y.62D2y.62D2y.65vtg.65vtg.69rKo.69rKo.69rKo.69nBA.69nBA.62D36.62D36.62Ad0.62Ad0.62Ad0.65GMo.694Vo.694Vo
Best list at the moment for aggro meta.
>>164691072
>trusting kikes
>>164691169
Sorry, too much Yu-Gi-Oh, you know what I meant.
>>164691191>being a necrobab
r8 my 4 pack haul3 Darias now. I think it's time.
>>164691072
They hate Rogue as a class. They always give them bullshit for cards and try to force them out of the playstyle that is actually fun.
So aggro shadow is still the best shadow variant, right?
Cerberus is still the best Shadow lego after alland the one card preventing Shadow from being straight up garbage.
>>164679654
>Not using 3 Wardrobe Raider and 3 Squall Lancer.
>Not using 3 Priest of the Cudgel and 3 Ancient Lion Spirit
>Not using 3 Floral Fencer and 3 Monika
It's like you don't even WANT to dominate both the earlygame and the lategame.
>>164690346
is this an actual doujin or just a mockup cover?
>>164691236
>odined
>>164691353
Terminal/10
>>164690818
Wards have to exist if Storm can exist
>>164691191
>dropped shadow reaper for nep build
that doesn't make sense to me, playing shadow reaper+other followers turn before nep seems like a really good play even in the face of rng fail.
>>164691327
Where do you think we are?
>>164691434
probably, I tried playing midrange shadow, which I never lost with before RoB, and I kept getting stomped left and right
>>164691476
in unga-central of course, most of /svg/ are below c-rank.
>>164691161
>Implying Pascale is still run
Last time I checked most decks dropped her because you can't establish a board on this meta for her to be relevant. Not to mention that Dirt being able to set up a board for Pascale still falls under "the opponent bricked and/or they opened amazing" because the deck is so bad right now in terms of match ups.
>>164689320
Because it's the only decent card draw you have, Teachings is pretty bad
Since your hand is so efficient you can just keep them while you keep playing your golems.
I've had hands of them at 0 ready in case I need emergency draw.
>>164691191
Ye. Always trying to have as much hp as possible.
With the control blood deck I have my worst enemy is pretty much forest because of their stupid roaches that they just bounce harass with and recall with ancient elves.
Literally maximum bullying.
>>164691092
Midrange is the weakest of the 3, Aggro is the strongest and with Nep around maybe Control will get the push I need. Control isn't my style but the class doing well as a whole is nice, even if Nep fans are annoying as all hell. I'm not sure how a midrange Shadow could even work since it's just a gimped version of the other two archetypes. You don't have the speed and efficiency of aggro or the endgame resilience of control so you're just kind of dead in the water.
>>164691327
Go back to dressing up for daddy Dorothy.
>>164691476
Honestly I don't know for certain how people are doing the Nepthys thing. I don't have a ton of interest in trying it just yet and I only have one copy of her anyway. I'm getting my meme deck fix with Eidolon.
>only control decks in AA
When this game died?
>>164691434
I'm having Success with My 1-copy-of-Nepnep deck in A0. People just can't deal with Death's Breath.
>There are people in this thread that run pure Dirt Rune instead of the superior PTP variant
You can still build your wall, control the board and have the added bonus of exploding your opponent in one turn. Real talk, Professor of Taboos is so strong it is almost legendary tier.
>>164690346
It has the best daughterus too.
>>164691871
what a qt
who else /confident/ here?
>>164691637
You're pretty retarded if you think dirtrune is bad
>>164691857
Give me decklist
>>164691857
You're saying this as if gold cards haven't always been stronger overall than legos in this game.
What cards have hidden effects?
Unica: Ward, Spell Magnet
Mordecai: Can't be attacked
does anyone have the roach math chart?
>tfw fell for the "nep is good" meme
I fucking hate you guys
>>164691857
>Professor of making the rest of sigil users literally useless
>>164691946
I think a third Calamitous isn't much of a necessity when PTP can clear a board as well.
>>164692015
It's outdated because of GOBU
Am I the only one who prefers Aurelia's dub voice? Especially the on-summon speech.
>>164689949
>Titania's sanctuary, well of destiny/woodland refuge
>Petal fencer
>Tam lin/Okami
>noble fairy/pegasus elf/woodkin/all the put woodkin/do woodkin effect cards
>Tree fatties
>Gigas which is the not-shit canopies
>yuel's, robin hoods, and oliva
>Lionel, feena, selwyn's command, helping you charge combos with 0 cost not-faeries
>Fairy princess recharging after you blew a fat load instead of dropping off then dying
>Tia forcing removal, wasting an effect or forcing the player to throw themselves onto eve to stop the bounce
>Fairy princess, and others charging the rose queen 15 damage lethal from hand
>Slver bolt lethals from hand
>Ancient elf as an amazing 3 drop letting you bounce and recharge the rape combos
It's just harder cause there's 2 expansions now of hating on ramp fatties and there's no reason not to use a good neutral if it fits regardless of deck. That's like saying how do we fix dragon when forte exists.The others work the cucks just wont play it cause they're netdeck shitters. If you want to change the meta, make a meme deck and get a twitch streamer to play it to spread it.
>>164691757
I'm having success as well with my nep deck, but I doubt we'll be able to keep winning after the meta settles. Plus it's not really as reliable as aggro shadow.
I'm honestly thinking of going back to using FLESH FLESH FLESH on my control.
>>164692041
Thanks
>>164691994
Levi and Merlin are the same as Unica.
And storms have immunity to bounce.
>>164692041
Neat. No Juno?
>>164691857
>Professor of Taboos is so strong it is almost legendary tier.
The power cards of Shadowverse, much like with MtG, are golds/rare and silver/uncommon. Legendary/Mythic cards are mostly just cards with complex or bizarre effects and things that are either shitstompers in limited or stuff you can build a deck around.
>play midrange sword
>get beaten like a bitch
>play control sword
>get beaten less but still pissed and memed on
So this is how dragon and shadow players used to feel like.
I don't like this.
>>164691574
D0 REPRESENTI started yesterday
>>164692061
ENG Aurelia sounds like she's bored as hell and wanted to get outside the recording studio asap. But shit taste is universal so you probably aren't.
>>164691717
>aggro meta no longer viable
Good, fuck that luck of the draw shit.
>>164691994
>Roach: Win the game
>Vampy: Ward
>Bahamut: Your opponent's next draw will be a Dance of Death
>>164691945
>Can't read
>Calls me a retard
I said it is bad in terms of match ups. The deck is too slow to beat Daria, Roach Combo and Aggro Blood, the decks you see the most on ladder and that are considered the strongest by most players, and also doesn't do very well against most Tier 2s besides some Shadow builds and pure Seraph. Not to mention that it gets completely destroyed by DShift.
>>164691994
Damus, Priority 0 Target
>>164692061
>Aurelia dub
>better than Satomi Akesaka
>>164692241
>much like with MtG
I thought MTG was having a big issue with mythics being really stupid
>>164692196
I removed the card to make space for Professor.
How do I build an Eidolon deck that isn't dead by turn 6?
>>164692251
I'm not abandoning Erika, even if life is a pain in the ass during this meta.
>>164692491
youKEEP PRAYINGthat you don't get matched up against aggro bats
>>164692491
Add heals to stall. Then add Elana because you have heals. Next step is to drop Eidolon for something better.
>>164692491
shrine maiden it.
>>164692417
Most mythics in MtG suck fucking dick. The power cards are always the rares in any given set. That isn't to say that there aren't strong mythics, but the more meta defining cards are typically uncommon/rare. Mythics generally are just fucking weird cards regardless of strength and planeswalkers.
>>164691757
Go somewhere else with your shitty wards.
:^)
>>164691994
>Leonidas: Can't take more than 3 damage at a time
>Yurius: Spell magnet
>>164692491
temple defender
>>164692575
I did, then I got matched against aggro shadow & elf.
>>164692591
If I can get to that point I usually win, the problem is making it there without being below 8 health
>>164692638
Come on now, lolis shouldn't be mean to other lolis.
>>164692616
I meant in more recent sets
Cause I remember hearing a lot of complains that standards is getting crazy expensive because a lot of the good cards are mythics.
>>164691434
Rev up those shadows and boar flood. T4 lord atomemes into T6 Tyrant lethal memes, T7 lord of flies destiny draw memes and stall with wards then midnight haunt tyrant meme them for lethal on T9
Their rage could power a continent.
>>164692349
Except dirtrune does well against Daria and decent against aggro blood
It also beats out most other T2 decks
If anything right now is the best its ever been for dirtrune in terms of match ups
Stop talking about a deck you clearly have no experience with
>>164692251
get t2ed
Help me.
I'm fucking dogshit at take two.
Even when I somehow get something scary out like Bahamut or Mordecai the opponent always has the perfect fucking answer.
Not to mention I always end up going against AA rank dudes who have "Taker of Two"
>>164692575
I slam dunk aggro bats with Eidolon. Daria is the gay one because of Kaledioscopic Glow.
>>164692756
I'm not sure then, last I heard were Eldrazi fucking people up but I thought that was Modern.
I think they fucked up Remi and Rami's VA. I think she's supposed to sound calm unevolved and then go batshit when she evolves, but they gave her the batshit voice for everything except unevolved death scream.
>>164692417
MtG did have pushed mythics, but those are usually in comparison to mythics that are very situational or just all around bad. When I remember there was always at least one mythic per set that players would look at and say that it was basically just a rare with a ton of abilities stacked on it, usually with no story relevance either despite being "mythic."
Do you think they should shrink Forte's irises a notch?
>>164692760
I hope they introduce more shadow generators and good necromancy effects next expac so Tyrant becomes a t1 deck.
>>164692734
You say that as if lolis don't fight with other lolis.
Shadow bullying Blood was also a whole thing last meta, so there you go.
>>164692756
Kaladesh has more than usual good mythics, typically it's just walkers and maybe one or two others
>>164692838
Use the chart focus on 2drop and Mordecai is good to win but you need to use him at least don't die in t9 because you used to a 8 mana 5 5
>>164692349
>Daria
>Calamitous curse
>Roach and blood
>Wards/veteran and timeless
Its a slow deck that is both combo and counter. It does well when it draws well.
Post JO Dragon lists
>>164692902
I want a Spartoi Lord card more than anything else.
Preferably playable.
>>164692989
You can probably swap out fafnir and maybe the cavaliers too as they tend to be a bit slow.
>>164692734
Its just friendly bullying.
Shadow is my 2nd favorite craft.
All other crafts are for faggots.
>>164693087
>Necromancy (35): Win the game
How bad would it be?
>>164692532
>frontguard general looks really weak compared to khawy
I don't like this.
>>164692929
Well if it's that kind of "fight" then keep doing what you're doing.
>>164689747
>eyes 3 or 4 times larger than mouth and nose
how did they keep this art/artist?
>>164692838
I'm bad at it too. Try watching people stream, and comparing what they do to what you do, it helps.
Here are some elementary tips I've realized:
1. I think people overrate shadowcraft in arena. When you look at constructed they're ideally aggro, which isn't the best in arena. Many shadow cards require necromancy to be great which is difficult because you can't reliably plan how much necromancy you'll have in your deck. The new cards that want you to kill them to get a good effect are also unreliable. Midrange is king in arena and shadow doesn't have a good midrange game.
2. You'll often be taking 2-3 drops despite their quality just because you need tempo plays.
3. Arena has a big luck factor. Opponents can get huge bombs that you just can't counter, and there's currently a 10% difference in chance to win depending on who goes first.
>>164693148
make it neutral.
>>164684970
>Implying card games aren't auto-pilot rng based games
kys
Earth rite enhance when.
>1 additional effect per sigil used
>>164693149
Khawy looks better than he actually is. Often just gets hit by removal or goes 1 for 1.
>>164693148
We already have that for 30, it's called PTP.
FOUR
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Have you ever made unfavorable plays for the sake of memes?We ended up keeping the mirror alive for two more rounds with Blood Wolves but then I had to go and fucking ruin it with a Night Horde.
>>164683798
kill yourself retard
>>164692768
If it did well against both decks that most people call Tier 1 it would be relevant on ladder, retard, and everyone knows it isn't. Just because it is in a better state than it was before it doesn't mean it is doing good in terms of match ups. Also, I don't know what world you play in, but unless you open Scrap Iron + Apprentice you can't stop a Blood player from taking you to 5 health before you can start setting up your wards. Not to mention how the deck just can't keep up with Daria at all, unless they brick or don't get to Daria until late game.
>>164693148
>people bitch about how deathly tyrant and PtP are better
eh, I was thinking something that gets summoned by a spell as to avoid fanfare and lets you undercost the actual summon and consumes shadows at death to return to hand, and then gives shadows at fanfare
Are there ever going to be rite effects other than earth? I want other elemental rites, or cards that trigger different effects depending on what rites you have in play.
63367 for free pack if anyone interest
>>164693198
Some people like vanillaware fairy tale style
Does take two have mmr? I went 4-1 as a total noob.
>>164693383
No, because they'd rather not murder Rune in T2 even further.
>>164693346
>4 mana
>>164693148
Literally PtP just 5 points more.
>>164693148
Try 8pp 5/5: necromancy (30) gain last word: win the game
>>164693116
>Blood/Shadow
>Not Shadow/Haven
Lame
>>164693243
They have Mordecai and more removal spells than any other class. Death's Breath and Foul Tempest are some of the best gold cards in the game in constructed and arena too. Evolved Charon with her effect is hard to deal with for everyone in constructed and even moreso in arena. It's not really overrated at all and still one of the best arena classes.
>>164693407
No, You are our lord now.
All kneel before anon
>>164693501
>last word
Trash
>>164693316
>>164693472
PTP shadow wasn't even a thing. Too many good cards spend shadows.
>>164693291
>10-8-8
>gains ward with one sigil
>gains spell immune with two
>gains storm with three
>banishes entire enemy board (inc amulets) on attack with four
>>164693501
More 8pp Odinbait for Shadow.
>match up against another JO
>they pull two JO Crystals
>you pull 0 (Zero)
It seems I have much to learn.
>>164693592
Not when you play it at turn 9 with soul conversion
>>164693445
They have a blacklist for arena anyway. But Bahamutverse has all kinds of golems and alchemists and its such a waste to keep the archetype be about the same ones.
>want to make seraph deck
>missing 5 legendaries
bleh
>>164693101
>having followers
You missed the point entirely.
>>164693651
you wasted his time
>>164693386
Open again for anyone
>>164693714
>5
>Eidolon
>3 Seraph
What's the 5th?
>when you Urd his t3 Ancient Elf
>Themis his second
>and play two more Themises on his Tias
I cannot possibly get more erect
>>164693714
You only need 2 Seraphs. Jeanne and Skullfane are bad and Moon Al-Mi'raj is run in another deck. Eidolon is for memes but I believe in the dream.
>>164693714
You only need 2 Seraph for Seraph deck?
>>164693591
Ups. :^)
>>164691679
3 dingdongs that stall, give draws, and draw on nep
3 lurching corpse which let them stall and remove when nep draws them
3, 3 attendant/hell's unleashers which can eat shit to necroassins/soul conversion/impious ressurection for value. They shit out up to 4 liches to go with the 5/5 nep
3 mordes which morde it up on their own or when nep'd
3 skullcradle widows which fill out your curve on bad draws and fill your hand on neps
3 kawhy which help you stall, heal you and kill their fatties or chews up their removal ahead of nepnep blowing up the board
Any ghostly riders you didn't use stalling can ward up a survivor.
I haven't used them yet but malicious ghost may buff nep or at least something that survives
Necroelementalist/Balor have board damage
Urd multiplies your mordes while shitting up your nep draw
Ceridwen brings back fats while shitting up your nep draw
If you get nep late, a shadow reaper fills its curve and it's a 5/5 ambush for 2pp, gets more when he starts blowing up your board, then gets more as your morde's ram shit with their face
Pact, tempest, Death's breath and the other spells/amulets help you fight for the board while avoiding shitting up your nep draw. Nep's basically an 8pp that almost always gives 15pp+ in value while shifting you towards being a haven delayed follower knockoff with worse draw.
is there an updated list of Dshift already?
im thinking piercing rune and the storm 6 drop would work well
>>164693591
>stage 4 consists from two parts that you need to attack separately and can't themis, because 2nd part grants destroy immunity
Ever since leaving beginner I haven't seen a single non-runecraft deck, hooray for following the crowd
I've been on an almost non stop win streak since I started playing the game and I'm still only at D3. I have like 26 wins and 2 losses. In hearthstone I would be rank 5 by now, why is the ladder in this game such a ridcoulusly huge grind
>>164693930
3 Piercing. I don't think anyone has tried the Storm, doesn't seem good desu.
>>164693930
Kill yourself.
>>164692023
Post decklist. inb4 it's poorly built budget dogshit
>>164693816
Slot open
>>164693843
>>164693887
Only 2? I'd rather not brick by not drawing any or fetching one with Priestess. It's also a big fuck you after they drop an Odin or Petrification
>>164694040
ranks don't reset
>>164694040
One thing SV did right is not resetting the massive ladder grind every month
>>164694040
because sv is not dead.
>>164690264
They're thinking about what might happen on future turns, how this particular opener compares to previous openers, etc... Some people can do that all in their head, some people want to play out their T2 for a visual aid before considering. Most of these people are entryists, not traditional aggro rune players - they have no intuitive sense for the math, for what topdeck sequences play around certain anti-aggro tools with certain probabilities. They want to learn the math in as few games as possible so they can return to a comfortable autopilot.
Either that or they're chatting in discord in between getting carried by daria lol idk
>>164693362
I dont know what kind of builds you're seeing but with a good low curve build you can contest the board against blood and force them to trade
As with Daria, no deck in the game can keep up with them if they open the nuts, in an average game though you beat them pretty handily turn 1-4 and turn 6 onwards you have calamitous
Its not a Tier 1 deck but the issues you bring up are all the wrong ones
>>164692251
Play rogue's creed sword. Cyclone was just what they needed to break dicks and minds
>Can only find enjoyment in doing my dragon dailies if they are with JO dragon
Send help.
>>164694040
Grind doesn't start until you hit A, since that's when you stop getting win streak bonuses.
Seriously
Is nep good or not
I was not in the nep thread so i have no idea if im being lied too
>>164693843
>>164693887
I only have 1 Eidolon and also only 1 of the Gold 4pp Amulet.
>>164692251
You just suck.
>>164694080
>>164694136
Oh that makes much more sense then. is it possible to drop ranks ?
So there's no reason to craft nep right? The deck is complete shit?
someone have that aggro sword list that was posted the other day?
>>164694075
Seraph decks just run Bahamut now I think, so 3 seraph isn't needed.
Banking everything on seraph to win is asking for trouble.
>>164694075
3 Seraphs also increase brick potential and it's very rare that you'll see more than 1 Odin in a game if the opponent even has one.
>>164694040
1. you're playing against turbo noobs
2. the ladder takes longer because it doesn't reset
>>164693540
They do have Mordecai and good removal, but you want consistent card quality, not just crazy bombs. Many of shadow's early cards suck because they require necromancy to be good. And you can even be put in situations where you're forced to waste necromancy to make a play on curve, and then rob yourself ofthe ability to make a game-changing move, like Charon's evolve. In the end you'll always have more followers than removal in arena, so shadow's more abundant removal isn't as helpful because it's not going to help you when you're facing a dragon or sword playing on curve. You're going to run out of removal before they run out of cards, and dropping Mordecai isn't going to win you the game when they can just keep going face.
THIS GAME NEEDS A SILENCE MECHANIC
>>164692964
Calamitous Curse does nothing if you can't keep up with their aggro and tempo. Themis works for Haven because they have heals and board presence with Elana or, on Seraph builds, they just need to stall and prevent lethal until they can Seraph you. Dirt is worse at that because their good tempo plays come up at the same time Calamitous Curse does and Curse eats the resources you need for those plays (Sigils).
The wards do nothing against Blood because you can't set enough defense before turn 4 unless you open with Alchemist + Smelter and by that time you are already bleeding to death, so they can afford to just use evolves to clean the wards/Timeless and then kill you. It's better against Roach on that sense because Roach doesn't start to kill you from turn 1.
>It does well when it draws well.
Yes, that's true. I am not claiming Dirt is bad. It's in the best state it's ever been in, but the match ups don't help because the deck needs a lot of set up before they can play and we are in an aggro meta.
Lesbian teamwork.
>>164694060
>>164694408
>He doesn't know you can turn off emotes
>>164692638
>Bahamut
Post dick
>>164694075
You have 3 Priestess and bunch of draw powers. You should have Seraph on turn 8 most of the time. Adding the 3rd Seraph increase the chance of bricking early game too.
>>164694307
Eidolon is optional. You don't really need it.
>>164694335
You can drop between ranks (i.e. you can get demoted from A1 back to A0) but you can't drop divisions as far as I know.
>>164694230
JO is fucking fun
I cleard a darias board three times and comoded them to death right when i had no answers
Playing against aggro is fucking hard tho and the decks really inconsistenent
If dragon gets more viable board clears and draw this deck may actually take off
Looks like some nepper couldn't handle the patriotic eagles
>>164694408
>silence
>good
Not even HS devs like silence.
Thanks ROB for pushing the aggro meta. Now I can finish 60 games while commuting to work.
>>164694071
63367 for anyone
Jade golems when
>>164694619
If that's what he's bitching about, then he should just banishing cards.
>JO Dragon
>Mage Dragon
>Wizard Dragon
>JO Phoenix Dragon
>Wizard Dragon
>Wizard Dragon
So the game is dead now? i only can find it in masters
>>164694726
i thought JO dragon was the same thing as mage/wizard dragon?
>>164692902
Sexton was a step in the right direction in making the ghost aspect more useful. Especially with spirit cycle and ghoul's banquet. Though 11 shadows for phantom howl into madam lich for 4 banes makes me erect as fuck Like elfaboo's, dragon and sword they're hurting for board space though imo
>>164694762
JO can use some followers and Wizard can rely on some meme like satan because it have spells
>>164694681
Implying tempo witch games are short with 10 minute turns
>>164693101
No uriel? Missing a bunch of the other damage cards too.
Gobu
>>164694420
I wish they don't get stats penalty on evo. They are too "balanced" compared to other Bahamut cards.
>>164694420
the one time these lesbians were useful
>>164694943
>Drop clarke at turn 3, levi + piercing at turn 4, Daria at turn 5.
Win
>>164693149
Frontguard actually gets them to do something. Kahwy just eats shit to a 4-5p removal agaisnt any decent deck moving them one turn closer to a bricked or dead hand and gg.
>>164694959
>Those hands
Is that Iruru from maidragon?
Can someone post the original JO dragon deck please?
I want charge my crystals with my bros.
>>164695061
>Implying that's faster than a Turn 8 game with aggro blood
>Implying that's consistent
>>164693316
Does ptp use shadow's shadow counter or is it the click your deck "shadows" only?
Still need 11 more
30298
What dragon deck do I make?
>>164695225
Shadow's shadows and purg shadows are the same thing
>>164695225
They are the same.
>>164695251
you need 3 forte for most
>>164695170
3x crystals
3x uriel
then stormers, minions with fanfare deal damage (preferably to face too), and spells that deal damage (preferably to face too)
>>164695251
roost 0tk harnessed flame/glass ptp control dragon
>>164695349
>unga dragunga me go face
>>164694970
Do you really want a 5/5 double attacker + 5/5 mini flam for 8 PP combo?
>>164694363
>>164694352
So I just replace 1 Seraph with a Bahamut in my seraph deck?
>>164692061
On my blade! Victory and prosperity are yours!!!
>>164695370
>Playing followers.
That's not how you charge your crystal, bro.
>>164695170
The code is : o4mm
>>164695460
I'm by no means a seraph expert, I'm just reporting what I've seen, anons have posted their Seraph decks a couple of threads back, 3 or 4 I think?
Man, I'm having a hard time dealing with Khawy when he comes out and I have 2 or more followers in play
>>164695112
But Khawy isn't a card you put down in situations where there are good answers to it.
You put him down when there is a big threat that you need gone and to help get some healing done.
If you put it down on an empty board, you've fucked up 99% of the time. You put him down on boards where there is no good answer to him, which is a very common board state.
Then he gets you stupid good value.
>>164695217
>Implying aggro blood game always reach turn 8
>My deck isn't OP, it's inconsistent.
Delusional Daria shitter.
>>164695596
Ram your highest attack follower into him.
>>164695430
Only one of those evolves though.
>>164694305
Do you have an full decklist for nep? Yes. It's easily a T2 deck
Do you not have a solid decklist full of legos and golds? then you'll probably get value then feel disappointment and call it shit because you didn't have the decklist to get a gamebreaking play out of it
>>164694337
Don't. Just play the game, fill out your library and play it and other T2 decks in a few months.
>>164695692
that's what I do, but I'm always in the situation where that guy will die and Khawy takes my remaining follower with him. There's not much playing around it.
Apparently enhanced cards don't get halved cost while phoenix roost is in play, just lost a game for this.
>>164695596
Think about it like this: If your highest attack follower will survive hitting a 4/5, then send him in alone to die. They'll get stupid good heals but you'll retain board.
If not and you've got 2 guys, then ram the weenie into Khawy first, then trade with the big guy, board loss is the same but they won't get heals.
If you've got tons of small dudes then just suck it up and lose the big guy and go face with the weenies.
found JO's deck theme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hfUSyoJcbxU
>>164695561
Thanks!
82942
Need one more game.
How do you not get tilted when you lose 8 games in a row due to garbage hands?
>>164695405
>>164695920
Imagine though
>CoC turn 4
>Super Alberto turn 5
>>164695980
git a better dick
>>164695980
I main JO dragon
>>164695980
Because I know how to build decks.
>>164694685
If you're doing the priv you need to accept long waits. At least the length of an average game and a half for people to filter in.
>>164695251
Ramp
>>164696027
eaisest {you} of my lief
>>164695925
This is what I was saying, whatever happens, there is no way to trade favorably, not to mention the totally unnecessary heal effect on top of what is already good value for a Silver card. Imagine if Fairy Beast could bounce itself back to your hand.
>>164680274
Post your deck. Looks fun
>>164695980
>8 games in a row with garbage hands
Ever consider maybe your deck is garbage, then?
>>164695251
You can ramp and face dragon pretty solidly bro. Cheers.
>be a f2p b3 scrub
>using a random assortment of swordcraft cards
>fight against a meme daria deck
>brick for first 2 turns
>they summon multiple runes with 13 attack and use daria
>they still end up conceding because they couldn't take out my evolved etin and random knight in time
>it was only turn 8
>>164695929
https://youtu.be/4B1ZQcbSvdU
>>164695561
Oh woah, how does that kill them?
Mulligan for oracle?
>>164696350
So you're saying Ettin is -the- counter to Daria?
Since it's also neutral, it can fit in any class too
>>164696481
It's a state secretBat or sword = blazzing breath or dragon wings
and dragon emissary/dragon oracle.
Try using the dragon counsel in blazing breath or dragonewt fist
>>164695648
Delusional Master player apparently, what rank are you struggling in anon?
>>164691443
I don't think it's been released yet.
>>164694420
>Turn 5
The ramp is strong
>>164696839
If it was worth anything, your old DE one. Seriously.
>>164696757
I'm struggling in unranked anon. Help me please.
>it's a Yurius deck episode
I GOT KEKED BY THE ENHANCE MEME
>Playful necro evo into 2 Yurius
>I'm leaving!
Delicious
>>164697109
You're master and you're upset with Daria decks? That's sad
>>164691476
>pic
Cerberus leader with alt Luna/Cerberus card when?
>>164693346
FOUR
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>>164697546
burzorkle