Heroes of the Storm General - /hotsg/

Should you focus down Zul'jin down in a teamfight? Or focus on other heroes?

Last game I had a situation where we would get Zul close to dying and then get wiped by crazy attack speed.

Do you just need burst or CC?

>>164659491
CC him when he's close to death, or burst him from a little bit more.
It's all or nothing with that guy, either make sure he dies, or don't touch him until you've taken the rest down.

and to think people wanted le ebin wow troll voice over this one that we got

File: 1483637382.jpg (246KB, 1366x768px) Image search: [Google]

246KB, 1366x768px

>>164659383

BLIZZAAAARD WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS SHIT

>"to help reduce queue times, AI may be added to both teams"

>>164659491
You need to cc him at about 25% health and then nuke him down.
Or you can nuke him down and then run away for 4 sec and then turn around and kill them.

>>164659558
>>164659734
Bit tough in a pug environment, but I guess people will eventually figure it out.

It was frustrating seeing out Zul'j at 3/4ths health constantly while theirs seemed to steadily maintain 1/4th. Though I think they were partied with a master BW.

>>164659664
Brawls don't matter. Relax and enjoy the show.

>wanna play zul jin
>every match has zeratul, varian, nova on the other team
>everyone in QM is a mega tryhard who throws shitfits over the smallest things
>everyone in Unranked bans the troll even though he's not even good

W H Y
H
Y

>>164659664
What the fuck?

Welp, I guess imma buy that bear mount so Rexxar can ride on it.

File: 1462734120497.png (660KB, 709x462px) Image search: [Google]

660KB, 709x462px

>>164659664
I thought that was a joke

File: 1455862759888.jpg (84KB, 480x360px) Image search: [Google]

84KB, 480x360px

>>164659383
>that anatomy
>that posture

>new hero added
>ulti cds are 60s and 45s
I think they need to add more IMPACT to those ultis

>>164661597
ye, hinterlands blast treatment is required :^)

Fuck, how can I be so unlucky?

I just started HOTS and my first five quick matches were unbearable.
Every single time my team was composed of people that are clearly learning how to play, not even right clicking correctly.
While the opposing team are a bunch of XxXMLG_EliteXxX pros and it's always extremely one-sided.

I'm not that good myself but I've played MOBAs before so I kind of put up a fight, but holy shit.

Any other non-native english speakers here happy thye'll never again have to break their tongues on "Vulnerability"?

>>164661991
stop playing alone, ask for group in the /vg/ channel

Valla has a fat ass, I never noticed this before.

new hero does 2000 dps while invulnerable this is okay and balanced :^)

then it heals for all the damage done during invulnerable :o)

>>164663027
>invulnerable
Whoa.
I want you to slow down and think about what you're saying.
Invulnerable is a mechanic where a hero becomes unstoppable and takes 0 damage (though still targetable) during the duration.
Zul'jins does neither of those, he just can't be reduced below 1 health during that 4 second duration.
This is easily dealt with by any cc, aoe and dot to finish him off at the end of the 4 seconds.
If you focus a Zul'jin at the start of the teamfight then your team should have all their cooldowns off to deal with this. If you somehow bring a Zul'jin low enough for him to use Taz'dingo without bursting him before he hits it and not being able to do anything about it during those 4 seconds that's your fault for mindlessly tunnel visioning them.

File: 4236749.jpg (19KB, 400x378px) Image search: [Google]

19KB, 400x378px

>>164663437
>heroes are targetable during invulnerable

WEW LADS

>>164663437
APOLOGIZE

How do I git gud at this game?

File: cat.png (105KB, 372x180px) Image search: [Google]

105KB, 372x180px

>>164663027
>new hero does 2000 dps while invulnerable
It's only 1.8k DPS for full DPS builds.
And he also has to activate it at literally the last possible moment if he wants to have 4 seconds of that. You can just CC him when he gets low so he can't activate it, or burst him down before he gets the idea to activate it.
Also, he's not invulnerable. Dots will mess him up, and he still receives damage, so he can't heal with Regeneration, mount up, or just Hearth away if he's about to get ganked.

>then it heals for all the damage done during invulnerable
Not all the damage, just 50%, and it will still only put him at 80% life afterwards IF he manages to do this for 4 seconds.
CC him, and he heals for less, because he's still not invulnerable. Imposing Presence will halve that. Outright stunning him? Same thing.
Or like, just go away. Dude has no mobility, the most he can ensure is getting one kill guaranteed with the net, but then he immediately dies afterwards.

I love Diablo but I wish Lightening Breath was less of a shit skill, the spell effect is fucking awesome.

>>164663813
Look at the minimap
Have a basic understanding of each hero's abilities and talent choices
Know at least 3 heroes of each role.
Learn how to switch up your talents based on allied and enemy comps
Don't dance around aimlessly, get more aas in
Don't just panic and run away when low on health, run towards something, have a plan, know if you have a chance to reach safety or try to do as much damage as possible before you bite it

Learn to move with team and how to properly soak between objectives

Don't get cocky after a big level difference, too many people go for those go kills and dive too hard, getting themselves killed. This is a good way to turn the game in the enemy favor.
Don't play too safe either, a lot of the time if you don't press the advantage you give the enemy much more time to do something about it.
Don't stay in lane too long as some heroes, the ideal time to back for mana is immediately after clearing a wave.

>>164663813
Play until you're on the winning forced 50%, when you're on the losing forced 50% just alt tab to watch anime and try to rejoin at the last minute just to avoid the leaver penalty.

>>164663813
check your minimap constantly
check your positioning (especially if you're not playing tank)
try every hero so you understand the respective gameplay and how to play against it
know who and when to focus
stutterstep (moving and attacking when the attack animation resets) is very important if you're playing AA heroes (valla, raynor, zul'jin, tychus if you can manage lol)

now if you're playing with drafts you should learn more about team comps

>Played Brawl in the American region to get the gold
>I'm only lvl 22 there
>Get matched vs a legit noob guy with 4 bots on each team

If you're here, I'm sorry this happened to you dude, I promise this game is fun.

Blizzard, your game is a fucking joke

Why am I going against five stacks what the fucking shit Blizzard

>>164664371
Watch for animations and listen for queues, if medic goes to stim you and you waste the first few seconds dancing around like a faggot then it gives the enemy more time to pull out and let it expire.
Same for enemy medic, you can interrupt that shit throw off their fight.
Especially for chromie (and Zul'jin's guillotine, among other heavily broadcasted abilities), you can see what direction her shit is going to fly, you shouldn't be taking any hits from her unless they come from behind a wall or while you're cc'd or being chased.

Don't waste mana on minions, especially when moving as a team. I see too many people all press their waveclear button when only one or two of you needed to stop.
During laning it's more important since you want to balance mana between poking and clearing. With aoe you ideally want to do both in one.
If you have a big damage low cooldown ability then it's fine to prioritize it on minions to push in the wave and pressure them, but if it's low cooldown low damage you want to spend more time poking, especially if you have a lane partner who can focus on the minions for you.

BE QUEST FRIENDLY
Take a look at your teammates talents, helping them to get quick stacks in regen master is extremely helpful, especially if they're roaming.
Watch to see if they're nearby before you kill that wizard minion, or don't spend you mana clearing a wave if Rag has his minion quest.

>>164664539
This is why I play Abathur, you don't have to worry about reconnecting before the game ends because you never get kicked for afk

What the fuck areyou meant to do when you're playing from behind? Everyone always talks about how it's so easy to comeback or some shit but when the enemy controls the map and beats us in team fights, what the fuck are you meant to do? Nothing? I don't fucking get it.

File: 1481641262729.png (203KB, 308x266px) Image search: [Google]

203KB, 308x266px

>>164665759
>go afk the entire match
>team doesn't even realize it

>>164665883
I always wondered what that guy trying to solo camps on the other side of the map and constantly walking into 3v1s was thinking.

>they introduce bots to brawl because not enough people are queuing
>less people queue because who the fuck wants to play against bots
>everyone playing brawl has 4 fucking bots on their team

>>164665912
>teammate gives you shit for being afk
>the rest of the team starts attacking him for not knowing how Abathur works

What is this fucking meme lately where every game needs to 100% team reliant and if you have one piece of shit who can't use a fucking keyboard you use lose right at the start of the game. I am so fucking tired of this. Fuck I hate video games so much.

>>164666249
le competitiff scene
people don't understand that this shit doesn't work without organized teams EVERY MATCH and that most people don't want to play in premades

>>164665912
>>164666094
You guys need to realize there's only the same 50 or so people in these threads every day and no one's interested in you stale slug stories.

>>164666094
My friend got shit for playing abathur correctly on a brawl and the person said "just leave abathur you aren't even doing anything a bot is better than you" not even joking.

Fuck me I want the War Bear, but I don't want to pay $15 for it, considering I already bought Zul'jin with gold.

>>164666682
I can buy it for you if you suck my dick real good.

>>164665883
you need to kill them, there's no other way to comeback

>>164666682
i bought it, it's great

>internet cuts out for 3 seconds during hero league hero select after I bump into the cable for my wireless adapter
>lose half my progress to the next rank and get tossed in leaver queue

What the shit

>>164666682


p. sure they sell it out of the bundle later.

File: 1460802787525.jpg (16KB, 220x261px) Image search: [Google]

16KB, 220x261px

CHROMIE SKIN WHEN!!!!??

File: Malganis2.jpg (19KB, 325x361px) Image search: [Google]

19KB, 325x361px

Mal'Ganis when?

File: anime_sixty_niggers.png (185KB, 426x458px) Image search: [Google]

185KB, 426x458px

Why is Zul'jin so sexualized in this game?

So how's Nazeebo now?

>>164669829
mid tier if you manage to drag the game to lvl 20

ZUL'JIN GO WHERE ZUL'JIN GO

>>164669829

Trash. Just play Sylvanas or Xul if you want a spec god fucking damn it.

anyone tried W build ZJ? is it not that trash?

>>164669790
hes a forest nigger thats why
Swahili man

>>164670280
>xul
you mean ragnaros who is just a straight up better xul at this point?

>>164670280
Well, shit.
>>164669949
Which R?

>I DOO WHAT JEW WANT
What does the troll mean by this?

>>164670280
How to play Sylvanas?

>>164671075
Both of Zeebos ults are shit.
Garg is least shit.

>>164671075
garg with the voodoo ritual talent

File: arthas.jpg (136KB, 1438x326px) Image search: [Google]

136KB, 1438x326px

>Arthas is low tier
>nerf him anyway
I don't understand

>>164671534
What is the right thing to do in that scenario?
An objective spawning vs a couple merc camps pushing down a lane.

>>164670586
It's a cuban affectation you fucking idiots

File: conchehands.png (51KB, 344x517px) Image search: [Google]

51KB, 344x517px

So it turns out that Zul'jin's W/Ability Power build is actually the good one

Who would've guessed

>>164668643
This.

Whoever though adding diablo 3 and starcraft to this game was a retard, they should've just made it warcraft 4 and be done with it.

>>164672054

i would have guessed. only silvershitters thought they could just AA all day with tazdingo

>>164671669
if the lane isn't being actively pushed by mercenaries, objective
if it is, it's an attempt to stall the objective 4v5

Why do faggots insist on drawing out a match for another five minutes by defending when we've already lost all keeps and the other team hasn't even lost a fort?

>>164671075
>ever picking something other than Gargantuan
He isn't great, but he's the best you have.

Pick Vile Infection if you get the stacks you should definitely aim for this, it basically triples your fucking damage against everything and there's no reason not to play Carry 'zeebo if you ain't taking this., if you somehow fuck up and aren't even close, kill yourself and take the Garg talent.

>>164671534
>look at patch notes again
>they added health reduction and health regen reduction after giving him his minor buff

Why. He might've actually worked his way into playability with just the 15% reduction

>>164672054
say who?

>queue up for qp
>outdamage the KT for the first 12 minutes of the game
>as medic

>>164672563
>give him 15% damage reduction
>reduce his health by ~15%
I just don't fucking get it.

>>164672161
Well not really Taz'Dingo but just the overall AA was everything he was hyping up to be
>>164672616
Several pro players
One root/stun and you can line up a good talented W to do shittons of damage

>>164671247
>>164671284
>>164672528
Good to know.

How about Azmodan? It's been too fucking long since I played this.

>>164673482
Azmo just got buffed so who knows how good he is now.

He's a god in low ranks because he's a god at autismpushing and autismpushing is OP in low ranks.

>>164673386
>Several pro players
Several of them also said aa was better. I'm going to wait for the general consesnsu.

>>164673745
Autismpushing as in brainless, nonstop pushing of a lane?

Hey guys, maybe Zul'Jin is like Rag and both builds are good.

>>164672563
It's a netbuff because a lower health but higher armor means that his self-healing is more effective, this isn't difficult guys

>>164672670
His health was reduced by 7%, not 15%.

I haven't done any math on it yet, though, so I don't know what percentage of lethal damage needs to be physical for the armor to outweight the health reduction. I know for anub it's like 30-35% ability damage before his armor becomes a buff.

>>164672670
My guess is so he doesn't get destroyed by % basd attacks, like Tychus, Kharazim ult and so on.
But reducing health regen seems like a dick move.

>>164674008
They always change regen when they change max health for any hero.

>>164673936
aa build is amazing with a strong front line and healers
axes are amazing any other time

>>164674146
Can confirm this.

What are the best heroes for solo queue quick match?

>>164674117
Does that justify nerfing a hero that isn't even used more than single digit % of the time in games played currently?

>>164673915
Multiple lanes, even.

File: Cow_king.png (209KB, 940x593px) Image search: [Google]

209KB, 940x593px

He's next coming out next month, right?

>>164675356
Blizz doens't releases funny heroes anymore

Why the hell would I ever take Sulfuras Smash over Lava Wave? It seems completely inferior.

>>164666536
>play abathur
>getting 2 lanes of exp most game
>swapping over to teamfights and poking at enemies to help
>team bitching about how I'm not helping or doing anything
>ignore that I have double the exp contribution of anyone and almost as much hero damage
>team loses their fucking minds when I get MVP

>>164674335
Abathur, Vikings, Nova the list goes on.

>>164675473
Probably on more teamfight oriented maps/comps where the teamfight helping is more important than the extra lane pressure.

I always take lava wave anyways though because I suck at aiming Sulfuras Smash.

>>164667773
Datamine said the 22nd.

>>164675494
>be top siege damage and xp contribution on any fucking specialist hero
>team blames me for the lose
>even though I participated in most teamfights and objectives that THEY lost

>>164675494
I'm more surprised when Abathur doesn't get MVP. It's like Nova. I just expect them to get MVP with the way the system works.

>>164659642
>wow troll voice
That's the troll voice since WC3, not WoW. What we got is closer to the WC2 version, which makes sense.

>>164675457
They released chromie.

Chromie is a funny hero

>go to reddit and see how they are reacting to the Arthas nerf
>just a bunch of idiots saying "we will see" and how he might be a good tank now

Why do people suck Blizzards cock so much?

>>164676014
>be shitter
>team blames you for being a afk bot lane shitter
> WTF TEAM YOU GUYS ARE THE SHITTERS.
>but but MUH stats

>>164676014
>Be Sylv
>mid-game and I'm single-handedly farming top 2 lanes
>1 enemy in top, 2 in bot
>we have a 4 level advantage because of this
>Not dying because the 3 top are too afraid to chase me
>other 4 members of team's bot in a 4v2, easy win
>they still somehow lose every fight
>ping spamming and screaming at me to get down and help them
>finally leave lanes once we hit 20 and I've taken all 4 forts . Again, by myself with 3 enemy heroes harassing me
>they're still losing every single 4v2 fight somehow
>I come down and we do decently..then lose because the 3 top decided it's safe to come down, and team can't even handle a 4v2 stomp, much less a 5v5.
>I get blamed for the loss because "Sylv too busy afk farming 2 lanes instead of teamfighting."
>When they can't even win a 4v2 with a 4 level advantage or take objectives while I have half the team tied up.

DE AMANI DE'CHUKA

File: laughing monk.jpg (285KB, 1200x1821px) Image search: [Google]

285KB, 1200x1821px

>>164676435
>People thinking giving Greymane 10 armor will do anything.

>>164676526
>enemy team dogpiling on me every time I try to push a lane
>their whole fucking team trying to stop me from pushing wherever I go
>my team is fucking wanking god knows where ignoring objectives half the time
well the enemy team clearly thinks I'm the reason my team gave them the win

>Overwatch gets sprays and an icon for login in
>hearthstone gets a cardback
What did this game got for that diablo event?

>>164677236
Portrait from brawl

>>164677236
Hearthstone also got a legitimately fun Brawl.

Hots got dick all

>>164677236
A shitty brawl.

>>164676671
10 armor is not going to change his shit talents and bugged R.

>>164677424
I know they aren't but idiots at blizzard and some people on reddit did.

File: Screenshot2017-01-05 12_10_49.jpg (283KB, 1680x1050px) Image search: [Google]

283KB, 1680x1050px

Makes up for the 30 shitty games I had before this.

>>164677349
>>164677378
Well thats sad to hear. I like hots but after reaching 40 and some ranked games i got bored.
>>164677367
Yes NPC games are sometimes really funny. Like the adventures.

>Zul'jin W build

Do you take the better slow or the multiple rotations

I guess it depends on the amount of CC your team can shit? Or is the increased cooldown too debilitating

Why does Braxis Holdout even exist?

It's literally the shittest map anyone could ever think up.

>>164678395
I like super spin because it does a shit ton of damage to rooted people if you catch them in the apex.

>>164678395
I usually go double rotate.

>>164678474
>>164678459
Neat

still Taz'dingo?

File: 20170105_122647.png (544KB, 1440x2034px) Image search: [Google]

544KB, 1440x2034px

BigDingo. Big ban.

Blizzard must be masturbating on a pile of fuck if they think this will stop me from throwing HL games.

Just got be more subtle from here on in

>>164678531
Well if you took the Ability Power at lvl 1 Guillotine is a lot stronger
Like a lot

>>164678926
Oh yeah that's true.

Taz is probably safer, though. Probably comp dependent

are 5-10+ minute loading times normal? queued into my first WM in a while and it found a match and brought me to the loading screen, where Ive been stuck with none of the bars moving for ages

keep checking my connection and task manager says the game didnt lock up, so what the hell

File: asdasda.gif (1MB, 440x360px) Image search: [Google]

1MB, 440x360px

Tell me about Rexxar. Why does he wear the mask?

File: Darkwolf.jpg (55KB, 640x476px) Image search: [Google]

55KB, 640x476px

>>164679608
Because references.

Why doesnt Guillotine do more damage the lower the enemy's health is? Since guillotines are used to execute people, not yourself. Would it be stronger or weaker if they changed it into a finisher ult instead of a worse Sulfuras Smash at 1% hp?

>>164679608
he's a batman fanboy

what talents are you guys taking when going with the W build as ZJ?

>>164679205
I find Taz mostly useless. Either I pop it and it doesn't matter because I wouldn't have died anyways or after it's gone I die because someone looked at me.

>>164679810
Because blizzard say so faggot.

>>164679810
What's the point of extra damage if they're low on health in the first place? Besides, it's made to work with Zul'jin's gimmick of staying at low health for his other benefits.

>>164679205
Taz is only useful in full aa when you can kill 2-3 people in those 4 seconds.
Otherwise giant spinny axe every 45 seconds is really fun

>>164679810
It's already a finisher ult. And it works this way to tie into the berserker theme of dealing more damage the lower health he has. Taz'Dingo is the safe ult, Guillotine is the big nuke you need to know the timing off, despite having a very low cooldown of 45 seconds.

>worse sulfuras smash
It has half the cooldown, and deals more damage with the W talent at level one, AND it doesn't have an indicator for your enemy.

Reminder Zul is a somewhat better Raynor and should be played and picked as such.

>>164679978
1. W Build
4. Troll Blood.
7. W does more damage
10. Guillotine
13. Move while healing
16. Double Rotating W
20. Ensare (Mostly because I find it hilarious.)

>>164680407
Fucking minions block snare I hate that shit.

>>164679608
That's lewd.

If I take crushing blows on Samuro and double tap W do I instantly attack twice or does it waste the other charge?

File: NET.jpg (119KB, 703x816px) Image search: [Google]

119KB, 703x816px

NOW LOOK AT THIS NET

THAT I JUST FOUND

>>164680192
Reminder that Valla is a better Raynor and should be played and picked as such.

File: 1483459837957.jpg (592KB, 1536x2048px) Image search: [Google]

592KB, 1536x2048px

>raynor is finally fixd

LET THE GAMES BEGIN

>>164681292
WHEN I TAZ'DINGO

BE READY TO THROW

>>164681506
Wait, he was broken?

>>164681732
THROW IT AT THEM

NOT THE GAME

UGH, LET'S TRY AMANI RESILIENCE.

>>164681801
Yes.

>>164681801

Something like a 60% win rate at every MMR because of his AA talents affecting Hyperion.

>tanky meta
>earthquake
>bloodlust

It was/is an okay time for right-click man.

>>164681801
Any talent related to his auto-attacks also applied to attacks from the Hyperion.

So if Hyperion was hitting their whole team, focused attack would be popping off fucking constantly.

Incidentally, hyperion would also miss if Raynor was blinded.

>>164681882
What was wrong with him?

I started playing again fucking yesterday

>>164681938
SM, FA and GK stacked with hyperion.

>>164682016
>>164681926
>>164681928
Oh, broken as in he was strong as all fuck. Alright, then, that makes sense.

>>164681506
>all these people picking him on HL still
Valla or Tychus people. They are much better

Anyone else miss the days of KT release when Flamestrike applied bomb and had extra range at level 16?

File: 1483549831973.png (207KB, 261x422px) Image search: [Google]

207KB, 261x422px

>First time Li-Ming
>Just using skills off CD
>Just try to disintegrate whenever possible
How do I build her?

tfw when you'll never get zerg pussy

>>164685436
>the days before bans

lmao no

File: OH FUCK.png (69KB, 290x115px) Image search: [Google]

69KB, 290x115px

HELP

>>164685650
Enjoy ur anal rape

>>164685650
>>164685813
Whosdat

Why do people hate on Stitches so much? I've been playing him the past few days and he seems to be able to completely shut down an entire team if I land the hooks, especially since zul doesn't have shit for escape.

>>164685650
what did he mean by this

File: UzejJo0.png (1MB, 1366x768px) Image search: [Google]

1MB, 1366x768px

>>164660981
>>164659383
It almost seems like he was trying to do obnoxiously bad posing.
>valeera less than a second away from raynor
>has her daggers backwards for a backstab yet her arms are flung all the way back, autismo style
>raynor looking at a bird or some shit
>holding his (for some reason half size) rifle like a bbgun

>>164686079
>>164685865
hownew.ru

>>164686060

Because he's shit.
Literally a ball of health with a hook.

>hook a dood
>walks away because you do fuck-all for damage

>illidan hops on valla
>here let me walk up and auto-attack him because I can't do anything else lmao

File: 1467593665671.jpg (68KB, 480x480px) Image search: [Google]

68KB, 480x480px

>>164685650
Lupe up

>>164685543
Just take all the teleport talents.

And get dominance as well.

Makes her just eat people and steamroll the whole team.

Shoot your long range shit at them from far away and when you can combo them down, do it.

Li-Ming can eat up whole teams and gains 40% HP from each kill (Dominance + Diamond Skin) but is squishy as fuck so you gotta be careful.

>>164681325
Valla has burst, an escape, a stun and is much more squishy. They're sufficiently different.

Zul and Raynor are much more similar. Also let me correct myself, Zul is actually a slightly worse Raynor.

who's top tier/bannable nowadays in hero league? havent played in a while

>>164687185
thrall, diablo, rehgar, ragnaros, malfurion, dehaka, tychus, etc, artanis, valla, ming

File: 1483057552734.jpg (42KB, 326x236px) Image search: [Google]

42KB, 326x236px

>>164686193
>>164686384

Hey /hotsg/
I'm picking up HotS because DotA 2 7.00 patch is a fucking disaster

I was wondering... is there no all-chat in HotS?

File: 1472429170317.jpg (26KB, 283x275px) Image search: [Google]

26KB, 283x275px

>>164686459
Do I spam my first skill or my 2nd skill.
Its kinda hard to hit Them

>>164687881
>I was wondering... is there no all-chat in HotS?
nope

>>164688020
Why is that, exactly?

on a scale of 1 to 10 how annoying are aba mine sfor zuljin

File: 1483485331575.gif (1MB, 677x504px) Image search: [Google]

1MB, 677x504px

>>164687881
nope
can't risk people saying anything negative to each other in super blizzard brothers

>>164687881
>All Chat

No, we're too sensitive for that, sorry. You can still whisper people after games, though, for whatever reason.

>>164688108
>Post-dingo: 10/10
>Otherwise: meh/10, press E

>>164686256
Yeah, he's essentially a walking weak dot but once he gets attack slow and slam slow he's able to fuck an entire enemy team over in every fight. Solo he's shit against every single hero but in a team he's a fucking beast

>>164688105

Because be real, when has it ever been used for anything goes other than shit talk?

Allied chat can be bad enough when there's no voice involved, all chat would just make people more mad, more foten, and lead to worse quality matches overall.

>>164688572
>you think you do, but you don't

Defend it however you like, I guess.

>>164688931

>strawman

good one

>>164688572
>no all chat because it's too toxic
>allied chat still exists
>they might even add voice chat

File: 1477546354584.jpg (120KB, 680x727px) Image search: [Google]

120KB, 680x727px

>>164685543
I usually do the orb build around her W for maximum meme. Chunking kids on a 2 second cd while you're not even on the screen causes severe butthurt. On certain maps like towers you become a fucking nightmare to deal with.

What is the rotation rate for the maps? It seems like I always get Cursed Hollow :/

File: 1404799625372.gif (3MB, 580x328px) Image search: [Google]

3MB, 580x328px

>>164685650
you're totally fucked anon

>>164690447
Every map is in rotation and it's random. Yes even that shit pile Blackhearts Bay.

>>164690447

All of them, unfortunately.

New accounts only get Cursed Hollow for a while, I thought, though.

>>164688183
>You can still whisper people after games, though
Since when? I tried it literally last week and it said I wasn't allowed cuz hugbox game.

>>164690581
Since forever, I thought. There's an option to disable incoming whispers from non-friends but most people don't have it enabled.

99% of people who announce they're muting/reporting others have it, though, lmao.

>>164687918
both

spam them until you can hit with them

File: 1419274375636.gif (982KB, 320x287px) Image search: [Google]

982KB, 320x287px

>>164664539
>tfw lost 10 quick memes in a row
When is the forced 50% going to kick in?

>>164685650
how hard did you get fucked

Guillotine is fun as fuck, and it probably will be for a week or so before everyone realizes to even remotely move ever when fighting a Zul'jin

Alright Blizzard, how many Greymane skins do I have to buy before you'll buff him?

>>164689661
>might even add voice chat
Is this in the works?

>>164692752

Who knows, honestly?

>https://worldofwarcraft.com/en-us/news/7315729/appear-offline-option-coming-soon-to-battle-net

>>164692570
I think they made it clear they have no intentions of tuning wc characters

I want to fuck Zul'jin in the ass while Reghar watches.

Is that gay?

I challenge you to find a Zul'Jin that doesn't have the most deaths on his team.

>>164687097
>Zul is actually a slightly worse Raynor.

this is why I dislike that they wasted a hero slot in this trash

>Be last pick
>Therefore get forced into supp
>Select Medivh because I want to get better at him
>First pick Tycus "Pick support not mediv"
>Say I'll choose who I want because fuck getting stuck with supp because I'm always last pick
>Some of the team have a go
>Turns out they're a 4 stack and they all have a hissy fit over how I should have to support because I'm last pick and I should go play qm

fuck this game is shit without a team

>>164693921
Well, I mean, they're right.

If you're last pick and there's no support, you pick support. If you're not okay with that, queue QM.

>>164693921
It's a shit solo-queue game, friend.

>>164694049
Or anything else. We all end up where we deserve to be.

>it's *usually* best to have some form of healer though

>>164693921
Why don't you just play QM?

I don't get why people play draft if they aren't a 5-stack in the first place, just makes the game more boring.

>>164693674
>He uses Bloodlust
>30% MORE ASS

>>164694049
I picked Medivh, which is close enough when they're being arses, especially in unranked. I would understand that I needed to be a dedicated healer if it was HL or TL.
>>164694167
Yeah I have some friends who started for the Genji skin and they like it, so I'm trying to train them up.
>>164694514
QM almost always gives me the curse of retards on my team and great players on the enemy team. If I want to play a specific hero I'll play a bot game and get it over quick, otherwise I find draft to be a much more enjoyable mode.

>>164692316
In a week or so every Zul'jin will realize that they should be picking Taz'dingo anyways.

>>164694514
I thought HL was solo? can you stack in that?

>>164696518
tazdingo is trash
4 secs unkillable means nothing in teamfights

>>164696518

you mean the exact opposite

File: 1467438750362.jpg (135KB, 582x581px) Image search: [Google]

135KB, 582x581px

>Go W damage on Li-Ming
>Take off 1/4 of a tank's health bar

>>164697509
>>164696779
I'm having a lot of issues using it in fights, honestly. The projectile is so wonky

It doesn't help that if you die and it's already been thrown the damage bonus resets to zero, I missed a kill on a Nazeebo using his spirit because of it

>>164696518
>>164696779
>>164697509
Pick Guillotine if you have someone like ETC or Zarya who can hold enemies in place for a few seconds. Because that's the only way you'll hit anyone who isn't bum-fucking retarded.

>>164699008
>>164699070
the thing is, both ults are pretty lackluster because the hero is pretty subpar

tazdingo needs the healing from the upgrade as baseline, and possibly also grant unstoppable or at least stun immunity
guillotine needs either more base dmg or better scaling with damage taken, right now it simply doesnt hit hard enough for how easy it is to miss

File: happy_doggy.jpg (75KB, 415x408px) Image search: [Google]

75KB, 415x408px

>tfw queuing Nova in in QM and sniping all the Zul'jin running around with low health for max greed

>>164699504
>shit at zera
>MVP because killed their dingo twenty times

kek i can't wait to see how they balance this guy, seems like the ultimate feedlord hero

move over leoric

>>164699452
>the thing is, both ults are pretty lackluster because the hero is pretty subpar
How can you even think this

>>164696518
>hit R
>everybody walks away
>die to a stray arrow
Taz'Dingo is the shit ult.
Either the enemy team is a bunch of retards who can't stun you for 1 second or you were already winning anyway.

File: Untitled.png (3MB, 2560x1080px) Image search: [Google]

3MB, 2560x1080px

Is pic related best feeling or is all 5 teammates having commendations better?

>>164678907

le ebin trole :-DDDD for de wining sempie!!!! :^)))) LULZ +1 ur so COOL AND FUNY XDD

>>164701498
by not being a retard?
What makes him (or the ults) good then? He has good damage, but as an assassin that's a given. He has no mobility, no escape, nothing that makes him stick to a character.

File: TfwYouGiveASneakPeekAtCoolShitToBoostMoraleAndPeopleActuallyWantToHangYouForIt.png (9KB, 836x99px) Image search: [Google]

9KB, 836x99px

Reminder of reddit karma-whoring sell-out rats: https://www.reddit.com/r/heroesofthestorm/comments/4mh256/theres_a_guy_on_4chan_who_has_accurately_leaked/

https://www.reddit.com/user/SSJ5Gogetenks
>ponyfucker

They are in this thread RIGHT NOW!

>>164699934
Leorics aren't feeding because they think it's beneficial to run around at low health, they feed because they don't think their deaths matter.

>>164703253
The damage he does, with the right talents, at 1 hp with a well timed tazdingo, you can easily kill 2, sometimes even 3 players.

>>164699504
>Second game I played as Zul'jin went against a Nova who I KNEW was likely playing Nova for that exact reason as she kept hovering around me
>Start minding my health and playing safer
>Never have a problem with her
>But Kael'thas on my team won't fucking stop over-extending and isolating himself from the rest of the group, dies around 8 times to Nova alone, never even gets to teamfight with us
>Tell him to group up and stop being alone because clearly he can't do anything about a Nova hunting him
>Just says "QQ" after everything I say and refuses to shape up

I can't stand this matchmaking on patch days/around patch days, holy fuck. The people you find are absolutely fucking ridiculous.

>>164703750
Yeah, if they're retarded and stand there AA'ing an unkillable hero instead of juking him, putting up their own shields, stunning him, etc.

He's just basically Dota's Huskar. He's only good against pubtrash.

Which level 7 talent do you prefer on Zeratul, /hotsg/?

>>164704269
The third one.

File: TheBestFuckingSupport.jpg (85KB, 700x474px) Image search: [Google]

85KB, 700x474px

It's time to remind you, /hotsg/

MENGSK

WHEN

>>164704537
Right now he is probably the worst supp in the game though

>>164676851
>be enemy team
>see guy trying to split push
> gank him
>doesn't learn lesson
>keeps split pushing

If they enemy team keeps dog pilling you its cause you are out of position.
Like when sylv is trying to take one of your forts by herself ignoring her team you punish that shit. Don't let her get away with that stuff.

File: zul__jin_by_danidem-d3gyd1g.jpg (767KB, 900x1188px) Image search: [Google]

767KB, 900x1188px

Few questions, how many of you tried his W build? How reliable did you find it? I ask because I think it can be pretty awkward to land most times, I especially don't get why they added the talent for extra damage when hitting someone with both axes at once, because it looks like that never really happens, ever.

Two, how are you guys using his trait? I've found myself acivating Berserker up until I'm around 50% or so health, or until I start getting focused, then I turn it off, and only turn it back on when I know I'll get free shots without return harassment, or when I've got Taz'dingo going.

And finally, what are the odds we'll get his WoW self as a skin, and how the fuck would it work given he uses both hands to throw his W? Possibly Legendary skin and just change the animation for W, maybe throw one axe and a loa spirit that mirrors it or something?

Futanari Sonya skin when?

>>164675457
blizzard lives for the memes

>>164698147
Any build other than calamity is shit I find.

W builds just mean that you have to either go in at an awkward angle (which makes it a lot easier to get picked off) or just content yourself to hitting tanks instead of the people you're supposed to burst down.

On the subject of whether a hero is good or not.

He sucks
>lol maybe if ur retarded

He is strong
>lol maybe if ur playing against retards

I hope one day hotsg realizes this is not an argument.

New brawl is AIDS.

>>164706023
Which build is calamity

>>164705749
You don't usually land the W by yourself, you do it on a setup with teammates(Malf,Xul,Nazeedo,Mosh Pit)
If you do that,it does a shitton of damage

i sincerely hope they agive the option to customize your homescreen to mirror that of previous hero releases, because this is the most comfy homescreen of all time, and troll music is always the absolute best

>>164706095
They are though.
For example
>If you seriously think tazdingo is great because when you pop it the enemy team just stands there and takes it instead of stunning and/or kiting you, you're playing against retards
is a perfectly valid argument.

File: BW.jpg (39KB, 808x183px) Image search: [Google]

39KB, 808x183px

Is this a stealth BW nerf or did Blizzard fuck up?

I feel like AA Zuljin won't be good because AA Falstad (and Raynor) both fill the hyperscaling AA role.

>>164707450
wait
what's the difference?

>>164706757
>just restates his opinion
>see that's why its a valid argument

>>164707701
>Previously, the buff would reduce spell damage by 40% for as long as it exists (set duration) (multiple spells)
>Now it reduces the spell damage by 40% for ONE spell and still has a time limit before it removes itself

>>164707970
oh okay
it seems to me like it still works as it did before, based on me trying to get hit by ming in try mode
they kinda screwed up some descriptions with these changes

>>164707970
>>164707450
Different wording, same shit. 40% spell armour IS 40% damage reduced from spells by 40%.

>>164707450
Doesn't Pixie Dust go away if target takes 2 AAs? Now it guaranteed reduces at least one spell I think? Don't know

>>164706125
why

>>164707845
It's a valid argument because it reflects reality.

>>164708856
It isn't valid because you summates dozens of scenarios to "they're retarded".

>>164709654
Actually I gave one pretty precise scneario - pop ult and the enemy doesn't stun/kite you.

>wowtoken still isn't giving battle.net currency

ahhh whennnn

>>164710164
I didn't say you didn't give a scenario, I said you chalked up the dozens of possible scenarios for them not stunning/kiting etc as "they're retarded". What if you landed net on them? What if they were stunned? What if their stun was on CD? You're basically saying any of these (and others I didn't list) scenarios happen, it's because "they're retarded". I'm trying to emphasize how silly that statement is by quoting it, by the way.

File: Screenshot2017-01-05 18_02_23.jpg (497KB, 2560x1440px) Image search: [Google]

497KB, 2560x1440px

I'm just trying to get my brawls done. Th-thanks Blizz. I think.

File: Screenshot2017-01-06 00_13_11.jpg (234KB, 1280x1024px) Image search: [Google]

234KB, 1280x1024px

This was a hero league game
A game mode where you can choose which heroes your team picks before the match starts
>5 loss streak+demotion
I think I'm done for today

>>164711956
>some guy gets to GM playing mostly Medivh
>start seeing more Medivh players
>they're always useless and lose the game for their team


I was done with this season anyways. Valeera when

File: 1468105245175.jpg (37KB, 240x320px) Image search: [Google]

37KB, 240x320px

>The bear is the shitty skin bundle.
>It doesn't even match the skin.

>>164712278
He was last pick. Kept saying we needed more fronline but nope
Tass pick didn't help either. No AA damage for it to benefit or stealthies to reveal

>>164712461
>tfw waiting like a fucking month before it goes on sale solo

kill me

"You want axe? AHAUHUAUHAUHUAHAHAH!"

Never get tired of hearing it. I keep going back to the main screen just to hear it.

>>164713256
Who you want me kill?

>>164712461
the 3rd color of the shitty skin matches the 3rd color of the bear

>>164713346
I didn't just mean colors. The bear just doesn't gel well with the skin.

File: 203.gif (1MB, 383x322px) Image search: [Google]

1MB, 383x322px

>>164713256
>that regenerate music

>>164713523
Oh my fucking god dude. That music made his E the single most satisfying ability to use by such a long mile. It's going to be hard to top it for me.

File: cock_hungry_elf_slut.jpg (749KB, 1111x1690px) Image search: [Google]

749KB, 1111x1690px

daily reminder

>>164713652
What music? Tried it in test mode then and didn't hear shit--'music' was enabled and at 100%.

>>164714451
take damage and press e to heal. it plays a congo jam while you're channeling. it stops when you hit full hp

>>164714451
When you regen it plays jungle beats.

>every zuljin with some cuck friend as a pocket healer
>still dominate them

>>164714010
You know, that's probably the most masculine melf I ever seen that still looks like a melf.

Thanks anon, I'll use this as a reference for now on for artists/commissions so that they don't draw girly melfs anymore. I'm kind of tired of lanky anime boys being drawn all the time cause artists can't draw anything that isn't a feminine shape.

How the fuck do I get enough stacks of Voodoo Ritual for Vile Infection? I'm usually only at around 80-100 stacks by the time we hit level 20.

Is Ragnoros worth the sheckles?

>>164717506
>four second window to kill creep after hitting with auto or ability

I don't know. Lane more.

>>164717506
Really depends on the map and how often your teammates want you around to engage in retarded fights over nothing, hindering your ability to farm.

>>164717506
Prioritize hitting all creeps before they die over having pointless fights when objectives aren't even up

File: 1476766349828.jpg (1MB, 1600x1124px) Image search: [Google]

1MB, 1600x1124px

>Haven't played since Alpha
>Come back
>Abathur has a 41% winrate

Jesus what did they do to him

>>164718352
Hasn't been given a power up to match the new heroes constantly getting stronger and stronger

>>164718659
Well technically he's kinda like the Rubick of HotS
Every time a hero gets a buff (to their stats or basic abilities) he gets a buff.

>>164676319
which is exactly what im talking about, but thanks for the you

>>164719024
Too bad most of the tuning happens on the talents and most heroes are shit with their basic set

>>164717578
I havent played HotS for a few months, but I've been greatly enjoying him so far.

>"Wow split-pushing Sylvanas/Zagara, that's quite a minion wave you've built up there. Quite a wave indeed."
>"Would be a shame if someone were to PURGE THEM IN FIRE."
>watch their bitter tears as the huge splitpush wave they've built up dies to a single ability.

I think I've actually gotten worse at Chen. This sucks, I just got his Master skin, so people are gonna see me and think I played AI games to get it or some shit.

Stupid fucking everyone being much harder to kill suddenly.

>>164718352

>clone zuljin
>win

soon anon

>>164717506

Minions have to die with infection on them. It's easy, just make sure you tap each minion in a lane with a right click or ability before they die.

I usually have like 200-220 stacks by 20 easy.

>>164718352
Abathur's still one of the harder heroes to play well. He's easy to play, but a bad player(90% of HotS's player base) will make him far worse than he should be.

How do you build Chen correctly?

>play illidan ccd/blown up the SECOND I show up
>play against illidan
>gets ignored and allowed to slowly walk over everyone

???

>>164720831
Illidan is a totally team comp dependant hero. Both yours and the enemy's

What's the best build for Tyrande solo heal?

Alright bitches, I just saved up my first 10,000 coins. What hero should I get?

I already have the free ones from the Nexus event, Tracer, and Tyrande

File: fat panda getting the fuck outta here.webm (3MB, 720x404px) Image search: [Google]

3MB, 720x404px

>>164720751
Level 1: Evasion or grounding brew. Enemy comp dependent.
Level 4: Ring of fire or kick. I prefer ring, but kick is good too.
Level 7: BB or bolder flavor. I vastly prefer BB, but bolder flavor isn't bad per se.
Level 10: SEF is pretty much never the wrong option. You can potentially get more value out of barrel, but it takes a lot of practice and skill to get the most out of it.
Level 13: Touch of honey. Pressure point is okay, I guess, but I really don't like it.
Level 16: Kick range. Another round can be good, but I never find myself getting much value out of it outside of the W build.
Level 20: SEF upgrade is good, barrel upgrade is good if you know what you're doing.

Alternative build: Take W talents at 4 and 16. At 16 you essentially get fuckhuge aoe ranged 40% permaslows on the enemy team. I think it's typically stronger than the normal build after 16, but I tend to prefer ring of fire because of the far greater early power and better waveclear/merc-ing.

>>164721428
ETC.

>>164721428
All the cheap heroes that are good

>>164721428

Go to try mode and see who you like?

>>164721428
Warrior: ETC, Muradin, Johanna, Diablo, Dehaka
Assassin: Thrall, Valla, Tychus, Ragnaros
Support: Malfurion, Brightwing, Auriel, Rehgar
Specialist: Sylvanas, Abathur, Medivh, Nazeebo

Take your pick

>>164721596
I tried the Keg build.
It was fun

>>164681801
>>164659383
>AI veteran Murky for a specialist daily, two lane Diablo map
>The Zulin on team has the cash skin
>proceed to solo bottom despite a tracer fucking my pufferfish
>sylvanas swoops in, dies, I maintain the bottom lane anyways
>these four fucks fail the angel/demon objective, Zuljin blames it on me
>threatens to report me for non participation when the Angel attacks top, and I dont come up to assist, because I'm MURKY
>they fail the following two phases again with my assistance because they're defending instead of burning the enemy obj
>Zuljin still on my dick despite having 10k exp and top seige, and captured three camps
>wont let go how trash he is and stays on the final screen bragging sbout reports when he just lost a bot game

Cash skins on a week one character, I should have known from my league days.

>>164722827
Yeah, it's great fun, especially against thrall at 16, but it's a shame it doesn't really turn on until then.

>ask your team mate to do something
>does the opposite
>inquire "uh, please?"
>"stfu idiot"
>guy ends up feeding
>lose game

why even play the game if you're gonna act like this

>>164723141
>lost a bot game
How?

>>164723141
Hey don't say that. I bought Lil'Ragnaros day 1 too and I'm a cool guy

>>164723795
Giving the bots 3 angels to push our shit in and dying to every teamfight because TAZDINGO

>>164722023
>>164722081
>>164722160
>>164722434
Holy Shit
MTC is fun as fuck

File: 1471216670475.jpg (16KB, 396x428px) Image search: [Google]

16KB, 396x428px

>Finally Figure out Li-Ming
>Become an Angel of Death in every TeamFight

>2017
>people STILL don't understand basic shit about this game
>they get mad when you try to teach them
>REEEEE SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP PLAY RANKED IF YOU WANT TO WIN SHUT UP SHUT UP SHUT UP REEEEEE

File: medivh.png (2MB, 1600x900px) Image search: [Google]

2MB, 1600x900px

Medivh mechanics

>>164725196
5-Stacking? In which mode?

>>164725196

Woah...so this is the power of the Guardian of Tirisfal...

>>164725196
>5-stack
>losing

pls don't be unranked/qm

>>164725196
>Do 0 damage
>36.1% more

>>164724443
What's there to figure out?

File: 1430105808334.jpg (89KB, 526x588px) Image search: [Google]

89KB, 526x588px

>>164725570
Kept forgetting to use her ult in her rotations also using calamity

Is master muradin respectable

File: wat.jpg (56KB, 900x900px) Image search: [Google]

56KB, 900x900px

>>164725196
Why is medivh so popular man? I see him in every qm now

>>164725945
Yes, you're being respectable to the community of HOTS and /hotsg/

>>164725017
>PLAY RANKED IF YOU WANT TO WIN
This is the worst. Why the fuck would you even queue just to lose, ofcourse you want to win regardless of it not being ranked

Why the fuck would you ever take Guillotine over Taz'dingo?

Stop perpetuating this "guillotine is better" meme because I don't want fucking guillotine zul'jins on my team.

>>164725196
>>164725453
Wait what? How does one do negative damage to a core?
Are people so bad at Medivh it's breaking the system?

>>164725706
I still don't know when to use her beam ulti so I usually pick the knockback one and use it to displace people in teamfights or as a finishing blow

>>164726312
I guess what they're trying to say is "I'm just here to have fun", but not everybody finds having their teammates ignore pings, facecheck bushes, walk into towers chasing a kill, not showing up to objectives etc "fun"

Like sue me for wanting to win a competitive game.

>>164726421
>lvl 9 zj

I have never seen a single guillotine zj.

>>164725196
>5 stacking
>QM

Kill yourself immediately. Anyone who 5-stacks in QM is a fucking tumor on this game and it's easy-to-take-advantage-of matchmaking.

>>164726421
I thought this too, but it turns out guillotine is much better against good players. Good players will pressure you to taz dingo, then cc you, run, or both. However, with guillotine you can set up a big nuke on multiple people that is very hard to prepare for in a cluttered teamfight.

>>164726579
>wanting to win a competitive game
>competitive game

lmao

>>164726668
can confirm, nearly won all 30 nexus challenge games in a row with friends in voice who hadn't even played before

>>164726558
>Not slowing your enemies seeing them die in dispair

File: 1448058718637.gif (134KB, 340x340px) Image search: [Google]

134KB, 340x340px

>>164726668
>tfw you shit on a 5 stack

File: 1483239574853s.jpg (4KB, 208x206px) Image search: [Google]

4KB, 208x206px

i love brawls so much in hots!!!!!!!!!!! every week have to play 3 games (on 3 accs each - silenced main acc, smurf and smurf for troll picks). what i do is feed non stop so that the game ends as soon as possible. i absolutely despise playing any game mode except hero league. i just want my fucking 1k gold.


now they introduce bots to brawl, really?

>pick medivh
>teleport 2 bots and me to keep
>die, repeat
>jaina player on team notices
>starts stealing bots from me

what is this faggot trying to achieve? im still going to feed the enemy to victory. i really dont understand these absolute fucktards who try to win when they already 100% lost. it's the same as these fuckers in overwatch competitive, who don't leave the game after more than just one guy on their team left and wont return

>>164726826
Always feels so fucking good.

>tfw the best feeling this game has to offer is beating a pre-made 4-5 group in QM so hard that they break up

Get fucked cowards.

>>164726807
>not knocking that enemy player who thought he got away into your team to kill him off in half a second

>>164726887
>bots in brawls

yo hol up what

>>164727195

See >>164666072 and >>164659664

>>164726668
>>164726826
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE someone is 5 stacking and getting bonus XP :((((((((((((((((((( MOTHERFUCKERS!!!

i really hope that you dumb autistic fags die in a really slow and painful way. 5 stacking doesn't do jack shit unless you are on voice comms or specifically pick players of diamond+ rank into your party

File: captain america is devastated.jpg (102KB, 676x720px) Image search: [Google]

102KB, 676x720px

>>164727285
Autism everyone.

File: 1463268614130.jpg (131KB, 500x333px) Image search: [Google]

131KB, 500x333px

>>164724443
Literally worst mage of all mages
>cant attack specific targets with her spehls
>when she trying to hit someone in close range she looks like blind woman fighting a ghost
>still no bikini skin

>>164726024
He's.. Free this week. That's about it.

Might buy him though, he's a character where I feel like there's actively a better choice to make every time no matter what you do and I like those guys

>>164727285
>specifically pick players of diamond+ rank
Your skill level doesn't matter because you get matched with people of similiar level

>5 stacking doesn't do jack shit unless you are on voice comms
You still get to choose your 5 heroes so you can make a team that has actual synergy instead of getting 5 random heroes

>>164727483
>Not using her volleyball outfit