/dsg/ - Demon's/Dark Souls General

>>164642530
Is it possible to get multiple of Sullyvan's weapons in the first NG?
I'm thinking of cosplaying for boss invasions, tell me what you think. I need help finishing some of these off and would love to get feedback
>Pontiff's Archdeacon
Pontiff's two greatswords, Pontiff Knight Armour, not sure what to do for the helmet.
Boss invade Deacons, Freide Pontiff's fight and Aldritch. Ignore mobs, aim for players.

>Profaned Practitioner
Pyromancer using dark pyromancies invading in Yhorm. Aim for both.

>Lothric Defender
Lothric Knight set, but perhaps with a two-handed greatsword? Invading Dragonslayer Armour and Twin Princes. If using shield, attempt to block hits for Lorian

>Abyssal Envoy
If I can manage, invades Soul of Cinder. Glass canon using Pyromancies, Sorceries and Miracles, but only the Dark pyromancies/sorceries/miracles.
I have no clue what outfit to use with it. Aim for both.

>Abyss Watcher
Dresses up like an Abyss Watcher and fights in the Abyss Watcher fight. Hits everything.

>Artificial Difficulty
Simply an average metagame Estoc build.
Invades Nameless King, goes after player.

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>>164583626 (You)
>>164583805
I got you senpai

Faith is great in DS2. It has the best damage type, best buff, and best support miracles. It just doesn't have many offensive spells.

Things that all work great on a faith build:
Lightning Dragon Chime
Heavenly Thunder
Splintering Lightning Spear
Great Lightning Spear
Wrath of the Gods
Pyromancies (They gain a damage boost from Faith)
Great Magic Barrier < < < < this. Most powerful miracle in the game.
Resplendent Life
Sacred Oath (with physical weapon)
Lightning infused weapon with Sunlight Blade
Lightning Thorned Greatsword + Sunlight Blade
Lightning Heide Greatlance + Sunlight Blade
Draognslayer Spear
Sun Seal
Bracing Knuckle (with thorned greatsword)
Lightning Clutch Ring (or RoB if using physical weapons)

Great Magic Barrier will shut down ~50% of meta shitters alone. Having high faith means it lasts forever too. Use sunlight blade to hide your thorned greatsword projectiles, and alternate that with your great lightning spears.

Faith also has the distinction of its best chime also being the fastest, so you can really amp up cast speed through black hood and such. And unlike an INT build, black hood isn't giving you redundant magic defense, but actually complements a faith build's defenses better. Same goes for velstadt's armor and dark.

Do it right and you can trade lightning spears and greatsword hits against all the CMW magic katana users, then throw out a splintering lightning spear when they try to heal.

>>164642610

Only way to get both Pontiff weapons in a single NG is having someone drop the other weapon for you or spawning it with CE.

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>>164642530
reposting

Are greatswords the best? Started using Profaned Greatsword and since then, I beat pretty much anything without even trying that hard.

Holy fuck, black phantoms in DeS are harder than like 90% of the bosses in the game.

This is going to be horrific on NG+

Dark Souls is the worst Souls game because your qt is a zombie most of the time unless you never die.

>>164642815
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UQtBMKCipk

>>164642770
the profaned greatsword is an ultra greatsword, not a greatsword.
To answer your question, according to most of the playerbase and a good chunk of /dsg/, all ultra weapons are garbage.

what I'm trying to say is that you should be mindful of opinions about which weapons are good and which are bad. You're tearing shit up, it's definitely a good weapon for you.

next from game is DEMON SOULS 2

your face when trailer released?

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>>164642639
>Things that all work great on a faith build:
>(You)
>Splintering Lightning Spear
>Great Lightning Spear

For "Usurping the Fire" ending I need to progress through Cathedral of the Deep and then go to the Faron Keep and then to the Carthus, right?

>>164643037
Range and damage is insane and in PVE it seems to tear everything but I'm afraid that in PVP or against some better enemies I will get fucking smashed to peaces, since this thing drains stamina ASAP.

>>164643412
i have 171 stamina just to use this in pvp and only get killed by laggy chinks that phase through any weapons anyway and backstab me

>>164643118
Eh. Demon's Souls has the least interesting setting and lore of the entire series. I'd rather have Bloodborne 2, or even better something new.

>>164643497
So what weapons should I use for PvE and PvP?

>>164643706
for pve whatever you want, for pvp something in the higher tiers that you find fun? i use propaned sword for both. killing people in 2-3 hits is fun

Does Gwyndolin identify as a male or female?

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Cock blocking Mount Makers report in.

>>164643951
It's a trap.

>>164643828
I'm using Uchigatana it's not bad weapon but sometimes it gets on my fucking nerves, attacks are kind of slow range isn't that impressive and even most NPC's invading can parry it.

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thoughts on nioh?

Is magic/pyromancy even worth touching for weapon enchantments? I feel like they last not for long and I should rather invest my points from int/faith in str/dex or other thing.

>>164644147
bb ripoff

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>>164644147
Bloodborne starring Geralt and his friends: Fog, iFrames, and Red Filter

>/dsg/ anon asks for co-op in Irithyll
>Yeah OK, should be fun, I'll bring my Sorcery character for some chill fun
>Expect a smooth stroll to Sully

>Get hellride through Boreal, invasion in progress as I arrive, with three more following
>Three invaders turn up before we even reach Yorshka Church
>Spend all my time spamming GSH to drain their stamina until host can wipe them out
>Finally reach the end and clear Pontiff in one attempt

Thanks for the fun Anon, it was pretty good.
Also thanks for the souls too.

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Why are there so many gay furry avatars in this game? Were they always there?

>>164644147

so in these days it's ok to make literal ripoffs? this is a fucking ps4 release game with a publisher and shit? what the fuck

>>164644436
>implying that DaS/DeS wasn't a ripoff of LoZ but "for adults"

>>164644147
i had a lot of fun in the demos. Looking forward to release

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>pvp

>>164644549
yeah, so many similarities there, while from just this seconds long webm i can see they have literally copied every single aspect of recent FROM games and this is somehow ok

hope this game gets shit on

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>>164644147
really looking forward to it

>>164644593
>acid surge
why

>>164644941
i'm testing it and forgot to remove

>>164644147
It will probably have better story, immersion, combat, and pace than bloodborne.

But what it will lack will be the sense of atmosphere, lore, and not nearly as much customization.

>>164645371
>better immersion than Bloodborne
I'd argue the amazing atmosphere in Bloodborne gives it a level of immersion that few games will reach.

>>164644147

Witchbornediablosouls Gaiden.

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No matter what it turns out to be, The Mark of the Conqueror in Nioh is significant.

Before I say why I need to divide the Souls community into two general groups - Conquerors and Conquered - and quickly define both.

Both have basically been around since Demon's Souls, but the very nature of the Conquered demands that the Conquerors come first. Why? Because Conquers beat the path and light the way. Afterward, like mold or a rot, the Conquered seep into the community, ever at the heels of the Conquerors.

How is that? Either by a lack of information upon release or due to a self-imposed restriction, the Conqueror goes in blind. Conquerors embrace the challenge From Software has extended with each release in their Souls/Bloodborne Series while the Conquered abhor it. While Conquerors scratched and clawed their way through levels and boss fights, the Conquered poured over FAQs, Strategy Guides, Wiki Articles, Google Search Results, Let's Plays and How to Videos.

Therefore the Conquered subsist by virtue of the illumination spread over From's games by the Conquerors, entirely dependent on it. Overtime they've let themselves forget this, fancying themselves old hands as they bring their borrowed knowledge and tactics to bear on each successive release.

And then here comes fucking Nioh, reminding the Conquered who they really are. And with little to no documentation in sight they hide behind shitposts so they can cling to that "gud" status they worked so hard to attain. Eventually they'll be back. Once the Conquerors have shown the way, that is.

And that's why The Mark of the Conqueror is significant. No matter how superficial, uselessly cosmetic or quickly outclassed it is, it stills says I'm not this >>164644282


No, im a conqueror

Just got back into DS3, is the meta SL still somewhere between 100 and 120?

>>164642530
Where the FC

>go back to play DS1
>get to sif
>2-3 fps on all resolutions no matter how low my settings are, rest of the game works at 60fps
>literally impossible to beat the boss
>quit, uninstall

>>164645987
this reads like a bad 2nd grade powerpoint presentation

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>>164645987

>>164644432
in a game with anthropomorphic animals, where you can transform to a chicken or a deer, in a game with thick gargoyle butt you ask why people are furries?

Is fat rolling ever worth it?

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DLC trailer when?

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>just started NG+
>can't thrust coiled sword into the bonfire
No prompt shows up, nothing. How the hell did this happen?

>>164646420
full havels for the 4 kings fight is pretty useful so i guess sometimes

>>164646029
Speaking of, Is there a way to disable anisotropic filtering in DS1? Like, entirely? Or at least lower it?

DSfix just has "AF override" which doesn't seem to actually lower the setting, it just replaces it somehow and runs worse than default.

Most games have a setting like "16x" or "8x" filtering, but DSfix doesn't. What's up with that?

>>164646434
Try restarting the game.

>>164646434
Nevermind, a message was covering up the prompt.

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>>164645987

Well shit I got through the entire game with the starter weapon alone, but hey, congrats to you Quickdraw McGraw blazing trails through Jap video games galore.

>>164646420
Low level trades pvp trades in DS1 or DS2.

Fatrolling with havel's and wolf ring in DS1 at SL55 or lower gives you insane poise and defense that no one else can match. Fatrolling only becomes pointless at SL80+

Fatrolling in DS2 lets use ironclad armor and Flynn's ring at low SM/SL. Being immune to backstabs and out-damaging any trade in the game is a pretty powerful tactic.

Both sort of rely on your opponent being dumb enough to face you head on and never work against a smart opponent, though.

Outside of those niches? No. fatrolling is never worth it.

>>164646602
lol

>>164645987
Did you seriously think that post was funny at all and worth posting? If so you live a pathetic life, fucking grow up.

Would you fuck the Bed of Chaos?

>>164646905
its a copy pasta

>>164646742
>>164646420
I have 2 fatrolling builds in DS2. Both are ~SL150

One uses Drakekeeper's greataxe and utilizes insane defense. Because DKGA has 360 degree tracking and low stamina use, I can basically spam 5-6 attacks in a row with perfect tracking around me. I don't roll, I just trade and always do more damage because of my defenses.

The other is an orma and reeves build with ironclad chest armor. I'll throw down chaos storm, which baits them to come backstab me. They do ~10% of my health with a hit (immune to backstab) and I turn around and one shot them with the counter hit with the powerstanced greatshields. If they don't backstab, I start shooting a crossbow in the middle of the firestorm.

First time fighting someone it always catches them by surprise and they freak out. If I fight a second time I usually lose though, once they catch on.

Both builds are very fun, but not practical at all.

>>164646420
in 1, you can get a ton more poise for less investment, but you also sacrifice a bunch of stamina. it's ok for low levels even outside twinking because as usual, meta levels are bloated so that people don't have to sacrifice much, so anyone can get respectable poise, 40-50 vit and fastroll. but around 50-80 it's pretty good. only real issue is you have no chase

>>164647054
>>164646420
>you have no chase

This is why every fatroll build needs a crossbow.

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>>164643631
>Bloodborne 2
Only if with a new setting.
From clearly doesn't know how to make sequels in established franchises. I'm torn on the exclusive aspect too, OTOH Japan Studio's influence probably was the thing that helped DeS and BB to be so good but I also want my pkek friends to be able to play and I'd rather want to discuss the game here in /dsg/ rather than having to split off into a /bbg 2.0/.

>>164643951
Who cares, has a dick : male.

>>164647671
>has a dick
Proofs?

>>164647054
>meta levels are bloated so that people don't have to sacrifice much, so anyone can get respectable poise, 40-50 vit and fastroll
I never understood why people would want this. It would be far more interesting if the meta was 40 levels lower.

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>>164644432
Pcucks are furry degenerates.
psn fags would probably have furry avatars too if avatar choices weren't limited

>>164643951
male. all the people he'd have influence on, like the darkmoon knightess and yorshka refer to him as a male. i never understood why the tumblr crowd insist on him being trans, when it's a clear case of a wrong gender being pushed on someone against their will. then again, i don't really expect the tumblr crowd to have actual rational process of thinking
>>164647802
because they NEED to softcap their damage stats AND defense stats. but the meta level was never about sacrificing stats, it was about being high enough as to NOT sacrifice much while being low enough to not take 3 years to reach that level legitimately. which another reason why random invasions will ALWAYS be superior to duelshittery

>>164642639
>Heavenly Thunder

is this shit any good outside of water?

>Dark Sign invader glitch

Does this make the game better?

What's the point of ganking?

Is the claymore good in ds3 yet?

>>164649731
it thought there was a gs update that made it better

>>164644147
Ninja Gaiden meets Onimusha.
There's virtually no influence of Souls games in it aside from respawn mechanic.

>>164649731
>yet
it was never bad

>>164649837
better doesn't mean good.

If it isn't a straight sword, rapier, or YGM, then it's shit.

>>164650005
well >>164649976 says it was never bad and it got better so it must be great now

>>164650005
were you living under a rock since april or something

winged knight halberd+farron ring+170 stamina

fun times

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>playing in salt and sanctuary
>endurance barely provides equip load
>need to dump immense amount of it just to avoid fatrolling with heavier sets
>doesn't provide any other benefits
DS2 not only ruined equip load in next souls game with it being split from stamina but also in souls clones, it seems.

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>>164650126
Yes. Still living under Havel the Rock in DS1land. Is poise still >poise? I hear it's rocket science >poise now.

In fact, give me the rundown of the /newmeta/ while you're at it. I'd like to know if pvp is worth investing time into.

>>164650317
>some shitty 2d indie game
>souls clone

this is a souls clone, literally, >>164644147

>>164650545
The most reliable setup is black knight shield + estoc/straight sword or carthus curved sword.

>>164650641
its more akin to onimusha and ninja gaiden than souls. if you played the demos you would know that.

>>164650781
BUT*
other weapons are now viable

>>164650781
>cs
>1handed
No

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What is this white stuff all over me?

>>164651194
Well duh. That's why you 2hand it.

>>164651235
They don't get out much, just sitting around in their rooms, "studying"

>>164651235
You didn't notice their weapons were dealing magic damage?

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>>164651324
>>164651650
I understand now

>>164651265
i thought you included ccs with bks, my bad

>>164650781
Carthus curved now loses trades to virtually any light quality weapon which makes it much less viable.
Straight swords are mediocre compared to both spears and greatswords.

>>164652291
Hence why I said setup, not weapons.
I find the CCS useful against turtles and passive players.

>>164648060
Because it's client-side hit detection, the location of the bolts is different on your screen as it is from your opponents. In PvP that can really throw people off. It has a wider area than firestorm, but fewer strikes, so while less likely to hit it's still a valid offensive miracle.

>>164649921
There's some souls influence in terms of appearance and atmosphere (ninja gaiden usually has a more hack-and-slash overhead camera, rather than over the shoulder like BB) but yeah, it takes way more inspiration from Ninja Gaiden than Souls.

>>164650317
>DS2 ruined equip load

DS1 had havel's ring, meaning you never needed more than 20 endurance except for stamina.

DS2 had tons of weapons and shields that were top-tier but weighed a ton (every greatshield weight >10 units, most heavy weapons were 10-20 units) and the most load boost you could get from rings was ~23% using both slots. Equip load is absolutely important in DS2, arguably the only downside to it is losing damage from Flynn's ring.

>>164650545
Poise is hyperarmor just like DaS2 but not destroyed by 2h rapiers.

What souls game has the largest player base and on what platform?

>>164653827
ds3 pc

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>>164653827
for console it's probably ds3 for ps3/4

>>164653698
DS1 only had 2 ring slots, havel's ring was a choice of retards who completely gimped themselves.
No top tier weapon in DS2 weights so much you can't use it with flynn even with a greatshield.

If we're to separate endurance and equip load, at least tie it to STR or something.

>>164653827
DaS3 on PC simply because consulcucks have no data on how many players are there.

>>164653925
bad time right now, it reaches 16k at peak

>>164650545
Poise is a meter that indicates your ability to shrug off attacks. The poise stat is the 'size/health' of that meter. Every time you are hit, it drops down.

In DS2, if that meter reached 0, you staggered. If it didn't, you slow-walked but didn't stagger. While attacking, damage taken to the meter is halved. The threshold to be able to get through most attacks is ~160 poise or 80 poise while attacking. Below that you can be staggered by most weapons 2H R1.
The meter took ages to restore (>3 minutes sometimes) but would restore instantly after you were staggered.

In DS3, the meter does nothing except when attacking .When you attack with a heavy weapon, depending on the move you use, that meter is multiplied (somewhere around 1.5x). Throughout the duration of your attack and subsequent attacks in a row, you have havel-like poise to block anything below that number. If another attack hits you for a higher value though, you stagger. The meter restores instantly after a few seconds of not being attacked, or if staggered. Thresholds depend on the weapon you're using.

That means that DS2 poise basically lets you trade blows with people or not get stunlocked by weak, 1H attacks, getting staggered on every-other-hit, since you have to be staggered in order to reset your bar. The problem with it is that if someone 2Hs their weapon, unless you're an insane poise tank you probably will be staggered no matter what.

Whereas DS3 poise acts sort of like berserker mode where each attack you dish out and take gives you consistent hyperarmor, with more poise given to heavier weapons.

Is this a good game if you're feeling evil and just want to dominate some poor newbie?

>>164654310

Yes, but be warned that DS3's invasion system is tougher on invaders in some ways.

>>164654310
it's not mainly a pvp game, no
but you can invade at low levels with strong builds and fuck people over, but the invasion system prioritizes players with summons so you will nearly always be vs 2 or more

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>>164654310
souls games are made for you

>>164654459

Oh God it's the Dung King.

Your webms are horrifying.
If I get summoned to help someone and I see your smelly hat on the horizon I am crystalling out.

>>164654545
>implying it's not Old Pope, Old Monk's long lost brother

>>164645987
I love this pasta so much

>>164654310
It's a single player game that uses some multiplayer mechanics to add some single player experiences. There is also a tacked on arena but the game isn't very focused on that.

When fighting other people, the games are very much intended for you to play the role as a boss or an enemy intended to keep the other player from reaching the boss/end of level. The feeling of being 'evil' is very much intended.

>>164654754

All I remember was the webm of him killing two players using a dung pie like he was dropping a shit on them.

There are some Reds even Blues don't want to get summoned for.

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post true dark souls experience

>>164654545
I never run into people like him when I'm in a helpful mood on my twink, it's weird.

I get new players when I invade and I get new invaders when I get summoned.

>>164653925
Huh, all three grew a bunch for some reason. The averages are twice as big as I remember.

>>164654946
Steam sales and holiday season

>>164644432
I got hate mail from one then he tried to hit on me right after.

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>>164654924

>>164654924
>that upset firebreath in the end
every time

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>Friede doesn't react on you killing Vilhelm at all
>his set is already in Ariandel's big underground garbage bin
Being Vilhelm is suffering.

>>164643128
>someone who has never used lightning spear at max casting speed

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>Tried to do the Siegward quest a couple of days ago
>He was killed just before I could land the final blow on Yhorm
>Tried to make Irina a firekeeper today
>I forgot that I gave her a dark tome ages ago and without paying attention I accidentally bought a dark miracle from her, fucking it all up
>tfw I can't save anyone

Why does God hate me?

I would like to make a mid level PvP character (30-40). Would it be too ambitious to try to use a BKGA at this level?

>>164656110
god is telling you to stop being a mopey faggot and do it right in ng+
irina a shit desu

>>164656110
>fuck up
>blame it on someone else
maybe you just suck

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>>164650545
it's hyperarmor ammo

meta slightly depends on if you're doing pontiff duels or arena duels, the latter of which allows you to have 30% more hp

In arena duels anything bigger than a GS is bad since you'll pretty much always kill a non-healing player in two 2H stunlocks or two 2HR2s with a good GS and anything larger than that, which makes the extra damage on a great club etc fairly pointless. In pontiff duels the great club is slightly more threatening since it'll make your opponent feel like they're in an arena duel. Even there though, the club is still not great.

Quills are a pretty good dex weapon, and sellsword blades are at least stat-efficient.

Magic is also slightly better in arena duels because the odds of instakilling someone go up, and even if you still require two nukes to kill, the closer you get to a one hit kill, the fewer great farron darts you need to throw. Regeneration spells are good since they recover a flat amount over the course of their duration, which is comparatively larger since you have less health. You can essentially reach embered levels of HP with just two attunement slots, 10 faith, and a blessed caestus if you're willing to swap between the priestess ring and sun princess ring. Magic shield is also a fairly good spell in general given the long duration, low investment cost, and lack of scaling which lets you use the crystal chime without meeting requirements to save weight.

In general you're gonna go for 40/40 quality and minimal magic, 26-27/40 with around 25 faith (or int maybe, but only one) with TPGS and gargoyle spear (lets you access different spells for around the same/slightly higher average damage). Some people think bleedbuilds are great but I'd prefer to just use the greatclub as far as noobshredding goes. Gargoyle spear and washing pole are probably the best standalone weapons; GS are really good, SS are good with stable midshields. CSS still kills backstab turtles.

>>164650781
>estoc
aren't quills better?

>>164656168
yes
if you want greataxe, just go with a simple greataxe, it's good enough at +4 already to wreck shit

>>164656204
>>164656218

Forgot to mention that I also sent Greirat to the castle and then found his corpse later.

I FIND IT KINDA FUNNY
I FIND IT KINDA SAD

>>164656283
loot wise that's the better thing to do if you're actually going to the castle

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So I'm new to this general, first post, what's the consensus here on Dark Souls 3? Because I'm having a lot of trouble getting into it even after 3 and a bunch of half playthroughs I can't, and I still suck. I want to, but I can't get into it at all. Also, is it just me or is there a hell of a lot more dodging too?

>>164656236
Quills are shorter, I think. The weapon art is nice to have though.

>>164656236
>aren't quills better?
quills and estoc are both godly but for different reasons
quills is a single-stat rapier with cool combos which means it's incredibly stat-efficient while still being very powerful, also has one of the best crit modifiers in the game
estoc is quality with longer reach but ultimately will do less damage than r1l1 of quills

>>164656283

Also I now remember that I didn't even get the Sorcery guy to stay either.

Jesus fuck I lost Siegward, Irina, Greirat and Wizard man all in one playthrough. Not to mention Anri and Horace too, though frankly they die anyway I guess so whatever.
I think the only person I saved was that witch Karla.
One.

>>164656402
>what's the consensus here on Dark Souls 3
/dsg/ is the last place you should seek consensus on something because people here are a bunch of autists and contrarians
personally i love 3
>Because I'm having a lot of trouble getting into it even after 3 and a bunch of half playthroughs
consider not using white phantoms at all

>>164656263
What's a good weapon that could work at low levels and has hyper armor?

>>164656659
>consider not using white phantoms at all
But I like playing with people. I know it makes bosses harder though. It's not like I see them much anyway.

>personally i love 3
Personally I want to love it, but I'm having a lot of trouble with that. A lot of the game has been kicking my ass harder than the others and I just don't know what I'm ever doing wrong. I could post my current build if anyone wants me too, I also have a main that I just keep leveling for the sake of it.

>>164656661
raw flamberge
lothric ugs
heavy great club at 27STR

>>164654937
>There are some Reds even Blues don't want to get summoned for.

For me it was always Baba_Yaga (or whatever) and ELMER_FUDD when i was still a bean sprout. Havent seen Baba in a long time, he was always invading Undead Settlement and was humorously unfair to go up against. Fudd is pussy and i see him from time to time when i co-op and i bully him with a comparatively under-equipped character.

>>164644147
I wish it would stop being posted in dark souls threads.

>>164656843
>I know it makes bosses harder though
playing with white phantoms makes you a shittier player because you don't actually learn how to play by yourself

>>164656661
Greatclubs require the least poise to poise through things, and if you're only leveling strenght and always twohanding you can be efficient by stating at 26 or 27 strength. Yhorm's is also very AR efficient as far as stats go. MLGS requires the least investment of all greatswords, but if your goal is to hyperarmor through larger weapons you'll still need a boatload of vit.

>>164657009
>Greatclubs
Greathammers, I mean. Though the greatclub is the best of them, alongside the spiked mace for invasions.

>>164657000
>playing with white phantoms makes you a shittier player because you don't actually learn how to play by yourself
Yes I know, but in that case i used him because I was not equipped for Aldrich at all with that build and didn't know what the fuck I was doing, or, more like don't know what the fuck I am doing. I also wish there was more co op shenanigans and goofing off though, no one ever wants to seem to just dick around in areas in this one I've noticed. That's all besides the point though. I just posted that image to give an idea of how bad I am at 3, since I can't even get down the Dancer very well and dread that fight. Aldrich, the Dancer, and the two Kings that teleport[ort whose names I can't remember are always my biggest fuck ups. Then there's shit like the cracked out dragon man that you can just stand in front of and pummel to death with anything since all he does is miss usually.

>>164656843

>I know it makes bosses harder though

Only in a nominal sense.
Yes, the boss' healthbar takes longer to deplete, that's all.

Every boss is easier when you have a phantom to distract it from the front while you strike from the sides and/or back.

>>164656843
Get a crossbow. Use throwing items like bombs. It's very handy in pve.

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I just got to the final boss in dark souls 3 for the first time WHAT THE FUCK? WHY IS THE ARENA THE EXACT SAME AS WHERE I KILLED GEHRMAN??? WHAT DOES THIS MEAN FOR LORE?

>>164657283
I'm not THAT bad.

I guess I just need more gameplay and build tips. More than PvE tips.

>>164657315
Their arenas have nothing in common aside from having some flowers and Kiln's flowers are different.

>>164657389
Oh I guess you're right.

>>164656472
What about pyro guy?

>>164657767

Oh yeah well he's pretty much a guaranteed save.
>Find him in his box
>Take him back to Firelink
That's it.

>>164656402
I dislike the shitty world design in the game but it's still a decent experience.

>>164656843
Summons make bosses much easier, even the retarded NPCs.

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Why does Kingseeker Frampt want you to link the fire? What stake does he have in it?

Why does Kaathe want to usher in the age of dark? How would that benefit him?

>>164650641
>>164644436

Nioh isn't a souls clone, there are very obvious references to Souls to draw in the dastard audience, but the gameplay is not trying to be a souls clone at all.

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Guys I feel like starting up Dark Souls 3 and playing through it again for some reason.

What build should I go?

>>164659786
Sakuya build.

>>164659786
pure str with millwood greataxe and greatbow
pyromancer
stealth assassin with crow quills, hidden body, slumbering dragoncrest and cat ring

>>164659229
they are both abyssal serpents. they've been jealous of dragons forever (canon). they want to fill the world with abyssal shit from them to rule over, but kaathe thinks bringing about the age of dark would be the best way while frampt thinks that extending the age of fire to the point where it grows so weak noone can revive it would have the least backlash, in exchange for a longer developement (immediately bringing the age of dark might push the world to naturally revert to the age of ancients) (headcanon)

>>164659786
One that you havent done already. Maybe do some roleplaying? There are alot of newbies due to the holidays and sales, im sure they'd appreciate/enjoy the assistance and company

Is deprived one of the most efficient starting classes for making a PvP build? It starts at level 1 and has 10 in every stat. Seems like you could do anything from there.

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I missed this

>>164660108
I think its only good for twinking.

>finally invade someone who's fighting Greatwood so I can put my worker cosplay to use
>he panics while fighting me, runs straight into Greatwood's attack, and gets pancaked
I love this

>>164659941
I think that aim of both Kaathe and Frampt is to simply force the world to rot permanently in one way or the other, not just fill it with abyssal shit. Frampt tries to force the infinite fire linking so world will slowly consume itself over and over again while being locked in infinite loop driven by fear of the darkness, Kaathe initially tried to bring the age of dark, but understood his mistake and now tries to make entire world go hollow with one strong undead consuming the first flame which will force everything to get stuck in a rotten state exactly like what Friede did with Ariandel.

The age of dark is the only truly anti-Serpent ending of DS3 and it requires you and Firekeeper to basically betray the whole world. This is why it's the best ending and the only good one unless you think that ruling over the hollow world as a hollow god is good.

>>164660191
i love these animations but i hate that they are tied to parrying. getting your weapon knocked away from the swing because someone tapped it with a tiny shield is already retarded, sitting on your ass for 3 hundred years is too much. this should be a special riposte animation for knocking someone down or something

>>164660573
>me and firekeeper betray everyone
>she thinks I also won't betray her

She's so dumb and autistic.
Felt like I was mustache twirling during best end, I love it

>>164659786
faith, halberd, greatshield.

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>>164660809
>betraying the firekeeper

>>164660935
>betrayed everyone else

She deserved it.

Is stretch out one of the best emotes in the entire series?

>>164661491
no, slav squat is

>invade at wyvern
>block the ladder
>watch host get gank raped by gaint man serpent

The possibilities of this bug are endless.

>>164661491
It's one of the most useful emotes along with curl up.

>perseverance costs no stamina with the black knight sword or the red hilted halberd
>it does cost stamina while using any (great)hammer
How is this fair in any way?

>>164660935
>not betraying the blandest and shittiest character

>>164662191
>blandest and shittiest character
But i can't betray shanalotte.

>>164662263
Emerald Herald at least has some backstory to her and is actually involved in the world. Firelink Keeper does literally nothing throughout the game. Her dialogue doesn't even change.

>>164662013
>greatbow sniping at Wyvern
Please somebody do this.

>>164662263
We're talking about DaS 3, firekeeper is one of the worst characters and the second biggest waifu bait level up girl and you feel for it

>>164662338
Firekeeper is way more involved into what happens in DS3 than Shanalotte you can just replace with a level up bonfire without story losing any value at all.
She also has way better design.

>>164662013
now watch it getting patched next week with no actual balance improvements

>>164662449
Shanalotte is way more involved into what happens in DS2 than Firekeeper you can just replace with a level up bonfire without story losing any value at all.
She also has way better design.

>>164662573
Firekeeper is a key to the best DS3 ending, without her snuffing out the Flame permanently would be impossible as well as knowing what lies beyond the age of dark.
Meanwhile Shanalotte got her entire story cut out from DS2, there's literally no reason nor for the story nor for the world if she ain't there.
It's kinda cute that parroting other posts is the only thing you're capable of. Should've expected that from DS2 fan though.

is das3 still shit

Is invading in the nameless king area worth it?

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>tfw I killed the giant by mistake
>tfw he was trying to protect the trees

;_;

>>164662718
>DS1
>just leave the room and the flame will just burn itself out
>DS3
>now you need this fanservice character to extinguish the flame

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Simpleton/Milkring should have been the activated by default.
No matter how much you meme, rolling into attacks isn't something the average player just figures out.
Not to mention milkring/simpleton visual effect would make attacks going straight through your body without hitting you more appeasing to look at.

>>164660191
That roll attack is the reason why bastard sword is better than claymore for PvP.

>>164662972
Is that why he dies after we pick all the branches?
Did we ruin what he was trying to protect?

I'm sorry, I never meant to betray you, big friend ;_;

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How do I become Japanese and manually aim my fireballs with perfect accuracy?

>>164663074
given that ds3 happened, flame in ds1 obviously wasn't extinguished completely even in dark lord ending

>>164663232
Consume the heart of a Japanese person

>>164659438
>>164650641

It's basically a hack and slash game that just happens to have atmosphere and respawn mechanics similar to dark souls.

If anything, Nioh is a Nier ripoff, and both are simultaneously integrating BB's style into their mechanics.

>>164663210
he's only shooting at the areas where there are white birches

>>164663331
>Nioh is a Nier ripoff
this might be the most retarded thing i've heard in a while and this general is full of retarded things

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>>164663232
Start crossdressing first of all.

>>164656402
Either you find DS3 disappointing and it makes you miss DS2, or you think that DS2 is the worst game ever made and DS3 is amazing for doing DS1 fanservice.

There is no middle ground.

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Why does it keep happening?
It's not fair!

Is there any way to get access to the DLC stuff for free? I remember in DS2 you could CE the "keys" for each of the DLC areas into your inventory. Any exploits/tricks like that for DS3?

>>164663553
Yeah, give me your Steam username and password, I'll unlock it for you

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>>164663505
I can't make up my mind.
I love the way it looks at least.

I beat it once, I can beat it again. Just make myself like it maybe? It is honestly quite hard, at least for me.

>>164663550
If people want to see DS3 they just play it because it's available on every major platform. That doesn't apply to BB.

>>164663550
>vast majority of BB viewers come from a single streamer
kek

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>Host summons mound makers for nameless king
>mfw I'm the white phantom in between this mess

NIGGA WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU DOING

>>164663840
FUN
U
N

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Claymore or black knight sword for pure str build?

How much poise do I need if I plan to use great swords exclusively?

>>164663884
neither

>>164663697
username: Humque
password: uiYiVohn0
steamguard code as of right now: DFT36

>>164663840
That sounds like fun actaully. I have mostly only invaded as a grape, the few times i tried to be summoned as one i had a ganksquad waiting to bully me

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Legit question, does DSfix fuck with DS1 online? I can't get online with it installed and when i removed DSFix it still won't work. This is seriously annoying me since my previous install worked just fine.

Wow this general really is absolute dog shit compared to the bloodborne one

Pic community truly is purely cancerous

>>164664847
git gud

>>164664847
(You)

>first time playing DS3
>use a raw astora straight sword the whole way through
>try using any other weapon
>greatswords feel too slow
>daggers feel too weak and spammy

Have I fucked myself over by exclusively using straight swords? What else attacks at around the same speed? Is a rapier/estoc as good as/better than the ASS? What the fuck do I do for my second playthrough?

>>164664908
>uses raw ASS on first playthrough

good luck moving on anon you fucked up

>>164663884
Black knight will do more damage with STR only, but both of them are more of a quality weapon and will do the most dps with that build. You need at least 52.2 poise to hyperarmor through other greatsword swings on every trade. With 40.2 you'll get staggered on second one. If you wanted to poise UGS then values to higher to 58.3 for every hit and 47.8 for second hit.

>want to play through DS2 again
>fell asleep and woke up after the sale on SotFS was over

What am I missing out on by only having DS2+DLC instead of SotFS? Other than people to matchmake with, of course.

>>164664537
DaS1 online is fucked either way, DSFix has nothing to do with it. Get DSCM from wulf2k if you want to actually see some online play.

>>164665120
No aldia
Different item descriptions
Fewer enemies
Can't have 5 phantoms, only 3

I think that's it. Also
Wasting huge amounts of money on the DLC when you can just buy SotFs on a key website like g2a.com

>>164664908
Axes and maces have similar speeds.

>>164665264
I actually bought DS2 plus season pass when they were both new, when the whole SotFS thing was released I learned my lesson to never ever preorder shit or buy season passes.

That's the same reason I'm holding off on buying any of the DLC for DS3, just in case they pull the same bullshit and I have to repurchase the GOTY/enhanced/special edition of the game (albeit at a discounted price) because the vanilla game doesn't work online with the new edition

>>164665264
Aldia and item descriptions have been patched in for vanilla. You just get different item/enemy placement, prettier graphics and more players at the same time in SotFS.

What are some good str greatswords and ugs?

>>164665491
I thought people on PC that had DS2 and all the DLC got SotFS for free?

But anyways, if you have all the DLC already then there really isn't a point besides >>164665580

>>164665597
Most if not all "STR Greatswords" are better as quality builds. You use them as supplement to an actual STR weapon. As for UGS, fume is the best STR iirc.

>>164665343
What are the axes/maces worth using in DS3?

>>164665731
>for free
kek, you only got a shitty discount if you owned the game and dlcs

>>164665731
So quality build is stil the only viable way to play

Wtf were they thinking 2bh

Speaking of huge swords, how do you woop people's ass with these things?

I just tried to fight an invader with a cathedral great sword and it was impossible.

>>164665895
They memed us.

Because 27/40/40 GSoJ is the best weapon in the game

>>164665935
>cathedral great sword
There's the problem

>>164665862
>axes
millwood has the best physical damage and weapon art
dragonslayer axe is the best damage-wise when properly buffed
butcher knife has HP replenishment on hit and biggest range of all axes
thrall axe has the lowest requirements and quickstep WA
man-serpent hatchet has shield piercing
>maces
virtually everything aside from club, morningstar and blacksmith hammer

>>164666239
What's wrong with morning star?

>>164665862
>Millwood Battle Axe (better with pure STR than quality, most damaging axe in the game)
>Thrall Axe (fun memey weapon but lacks damage)
>Battle Axe (outshined by Millwood but you can start with it)
>Mace (insane at trading due to recent buffs)
>Warpick (really shines with leo ring)
>Drang hammers (kinda underwhelming if not buffed)

>>164665597
fume, zwei, cathedral knight, greatsword, black knight greatsword. Maybe lorians and profaned greatsword.

>>164666405
Drang have the infinite combo though

>>164666446
>cathedral knight
stopped reading here

>>164666260
as a bleed weapon it's completely outclassed by a reinforced club which also only needs half stats to work on optimal damage output and surpassed quality morning star with 66STR

>>164665597
both in ds1 and 3 STR classes tend to have a very low amount of options for those classes
try axes, maces, greataxes and greatclubs

>>164665120
From biggest changes to least important:

Things added:
>better graphics
>more branches/statues.
>New character added to give a ton of lore context that makes the entire plot actually makes sense, now.
>New optional final boss
>a bunch of new NPC invasions and Co-op phantoms
>a lot of minibosses added in various areas, even more in NG+
>New mimics in NG+
>New pursuer encounters
>A few shortcuts on some levels.

Things changed:
>A lot of lore through completely re-done item translations
>NPC quest locations changed, mostly to keep them away from other enemies to prevent aggro
>many items and keys changed location (belfry sol no longer gives the bastille key).
>Estus flask shards and sublime bone dust are now guarded by stronger enemies
>Torch sections lighting was re-done, with -actually- dark areas in some places where torches are required.
>Some Heide knights respawn now, locations generally changed, their equipment can now be farmed.
>DLC is integrated into the main game (eye of priestess works for normal game enemies too, DLC keys are items to be found in-game, etc.)
>Some Phantom drop equipment is now found in chests too, like the Aurous Set
>Generally more NG+ additions/changes/fixes to make it more distinct from NG
>A lot of rarer items can now be purchased
>Majula Pigs can now upgrade as you kill them

>>164667137

About the branches and key, Item locations:
In some cases it blocks off some things until mid-game (like the gender change coffin), and in some cases it lets you play more freely (like not needing to jump to the gutter to get the branch for Rosabeth). Generally it means there's more strategy in what you get to unfreeze and requires more exploration to get more branches.

It generally seems like they wanted to make more of the game "optional" by making branches more accessible and keys no longer behind bosses, but at the same time do require more total playtime /exploration to access those areas, if you choose to.

A total list can be found here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/11k2GoXq5UVLE5qbFK4b_WhCMjqME449dqXheLIVDoGY/preview?pli=1

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BOSS WEAPONS

>tfw twitch fags started doing boss invasions

it was fun while it lasted ;_;7

>>164665731
I think if you had DS2, you got to upgrade to SOtFS for the same price as the DLC. But if you already bought the DLC you just get a discount for about the same cost.

>>164665935
its impossible

>>164666517
whats wrong with cathedral knight greatsword?

>>164667137
That's pretty interesting, but i only had a grasp of the lore when i played, a year ago or so; But basically Drangleic is another country and Manus fragments caught live and started manipulating kings, for reasons. And this shady guy Aldia tried to maniupulate the fabric of life but turned him into a monster while searching for a third answer for the light/dark problem of the world.

>>164665935
Play DS2. That's really the only way.

>>164667486
SOTFS highly expands on the actual history, Aldia, and his role in the shaping of the lore, and even completely retcons some things from DS2 to make more sense now. Also, you don't have to 'dig' as hard to learn more about what's actually going on.

>>164667291
RIGHT DOWN THE ROAD

>>164667464
Shitty moveset and even worse damage make it look like a joke compared to black knight's.

>>164667614
There's this thing i never really got, All the other kingdoms for example shulva never coexisted with Drangleic, right? Some are older and ivory king is the oldest(?) Or somehow are other regions of the world with their unique geography.

>>164667676
Right down the road?

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>>164668054
RIGHT DOWN THE ROAD

>>164663808
Who's that, Lobos?

>>164668169
Right down the road..

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>>164668296
RIGHT DOWN-
BUH BYE

>>164668416
Who's the best waifu in DS2 and why is it Ornifex?

>>164668570
The Cat.

>>164668213
ela speedrunning it

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>tfw when using stomp on a heavy zweihander
It feels so good to launch people in the air. How does hitting people with spin slash feel? Need to upgrade my greatsword and find a cathedral knight greatsword.

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>he only came back to invade bosses
>people still watch this
wew

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>>164667137
You forgot the butterflies and shadow men

>>164665935
>cathedral
what you gotta do is go back in time and gank people with a squad of lightrolling password-matched havel's who're all using the bloodring and the pre-nerf Astora GS. Literally the meta.

but seriously

>cathedral

with the exception of pre-nerf astora GS's rolling attack, you want a thrust rolling attack, side-to-side 2HR2's, and probably an uppercut stomp on a GS. It'll still feel mediocre though.

>>164669032
Zwei does no damage compared to actually good UGS.

>>164669032
>How does hitting people with spin slash feel?
suprising

Someone please help me get into 3.
I can't get into and it seems so good. All I do is die in it though.

>>164669229
are those pointless?

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>>164668636
>mfw Lucifer is actually right about something in DS2

>>164668570
Yuria

>>164669520
No, they both let you farm some unique/rare items.

>>164665120
The graphics are slightly better. That's it. Literally, everything else is worse in SotFS. Worse enemy placement, more linear, etc.

If the graphics were the same, and you could get both for the same price, vanilla+DLC would be the choice everytime.

>>164669574
Of course, waifus are serious business.

>>164669032
>>164669386
How bad is the damage deficit?

In DS2 it was the weakest UGS, but it was light enough that with Flynn's ring it only meant a ~10% penalty for the awesome moveset.

How does that compare to DS3?

>>164669638
>Yuria
>DS2

>>164669793
It's still the weakest, maybe second weakest, but no longer the lightest and Flynn's ring sucks now.
The lightest UGS also has better R2s and a better WA.

>>164669793
it hits 500 ar when heavy infused at 40 str, so its alright. Other points can be put into vit and it has low weight so large amounts of poise can be easily achieved.

Is fume UGS still dog shit?

Asking for a friend

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It was fun while it lasted guys.
Try to get your fill while you can

>playing around with DS3 AR calculator
>40/20 does more damage with refined infusion than heavy infusion
>60/20 DOES MORE DAMAGE WITH REFINED THAN HEAVY INFUSION


what is the point in anything other than quality in DS3? Does heavy/sharp literally only exist for weapons that have no dex/str scaling?

>>164670174
Refined scales with 2 stats. Heavy scales with one.

>>164643631
>Least interesting setting

You never played it, did you?

>>164670104
>thinking that anyone who speaks english actually has influence at From

This really means "someone at From figured it out 2 months ago but they don't give a fuck. Bandai didn't know about it until just now when US players started streaming it, so my bandai rep just told me they are 'aware of the issue' and currently trying to convince From to patch it in Japan. No one knows what is actually going on."

>>164670061
It still has good amounts of damage, but the nerf was uncalled for. Yhorms is the best now probably, it'ss lighter, lower str requirements, and has a damage boosting WA. Fume is still usable, but fucked by the nerf imo.

>>164670174
DaS 3 is a shit game

>>164669793
why not look at the AR dude

a twohanded 40/40 zwei uninfused has less AR than a 50/10 onehanded fugs, and refined it still has slightly less onehanded damage and far less twohanded damage. It's better than the cathedral knight UGS, and at least has a better moveset than the guts sword, but it's really not super great.

I think Zweis R2's have a slightly stronger modifier to compensate, but they can't counterhit via thrust like all the stronger UGS do. They have a nice hitbox though, people under rate it a bit.

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Are the Gotthard Twinswords pretty good? I like this weapon and might make a new character based on it, but only if the weapon is viable

>>164644147
>damage numbers
ewwwww

>>164670606
Time travel back to april/may and try doing it.

>>164670394
>870 AR unbuffed
It was called for

>>164670174
>20 dex
you're using the lothric knight spear, aren't you? I was kinda dissapointed in that weapon since I wanted to use it as an offhanded tool alongside a greataxe or something for the poise and poking power

>>164670606
>is [straightsword] viable?
yes

the rolling l1 used to be broken, but no longer is. They're still good since they remove the worst part of the straightsword moveset, the twohanded R1s, by being a paired weapon. A lot of people prefer the stance weapon art though, but you need to twohand to access it on other straightswords unless you've got a weapon art shield.

What would happen to Anris questine if I'd speed my way through the game to reach Irithyl as soon as possible? Will I loose any rewards from that questine if I just meet him in the church with the statue? What about Horace?

>>164670270
But -why- do they do less damage for the same level investment?

For equal str/dex scaling 40/10 (30 level investment) should do the same damage with heavy infusion that 25/25 (30 level investment) does with refined.

What was the point of adding heavy/sharp and removing DS2's identical-movesets-but-with-different-scaling weapons if they weren't going to make them actually balanced?

There's literally no point to customizing infusions anymore, There is only 1 optimal scaling infusion for each weapon, and everything else is just a penalty for the same level investment. This pisses me off.

>>164670748
oh, thats more than I remember. I gues the nerf was justified, but they certainly nerfed it too much.

>>164670991
>>164670748
Does fume still have it's badass shield-blocking attacks?

>>164670863
>More damage at 25/25 than 40/10 or 10/40
which weapon are you talking about?

>>164670863
It is a penalty for trying to use a class you shouldn't with your build at high SLs. A heavy or sharp weapon will often be better at low SLs to the point you'd never build quality for those.

>>164670845
If you really need the sword and don't seek the hollow ending, kill her in the halfway fortress. You can completely ignore Horace as long you don't reveal you saw him in some way.

>>164670174
>what is the point in anything other than quality in DS3?
why are people bothered by this? I get that magic sucking is bad, but that's more of a moveset issue than a stat distribution issue. Whenever I read statements like these all I see is "Why does quality have to beat strength and dex? Why can't strength and dex also be good? I'm so mad that I can't rearrange my strength and dex numbers for the exact same result and gameplay as I currenlty have at 40/40!". I'd love to see refined get removed since standard weapons in general could stand to take the AR nerf, but outside that, who cares? I'd rather have a wide array of movesets to use at 40/40 than one moveset that can be used with a wide array of stat distributions.

>>164671120
only on the weapon art
no unique r2s
doesn't deflect attacks while blocking

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>>164669032
>How does hitting people with spin slash feel?
OUGI

>>164671120
only the stomp WA, but its pretty awesome.
>Fight with some guy
>extremely low on hp, opponent throwing knives
>use stomp with fume and block incoming knives and smash him into the ground
Hitting anyone with stomp is just so satisfying.

>>164671225
Well, I dont care about him too much, I just want to get to Irithyl so that I can help Sirris to get the damn cat ring, after I get it, I'll kill her anyway.

>the subreddit wants to host a Proof of Concord Kept event

>>164665935
Cathedral Greatsword is the easiest one, land 2handed R1, true combo into uncharged R2

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What weapons do twinks use?

>>164671225
>>164671387
Id also like the ring and chameleon, so Im just concerned if I need to go to cathedral at all to get this reward. I think If I kill him too soon, the pilgrim wont appear.

>>164671635
dragonslayer axe
rotten ghru spear
dark hand
anri's / astora straight sword

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>>164671386
>Hitting anyone with stomp is just so satisfying.
My nigger. I wish FROM will just give UGS and Stomp the axe treatment. If it's startup/end frames were shorten then I can see a dedicated use for Stomp mixing in R1s or the golf swing but as it stands now only retards die to it. Everyone else can just wait out on your attacks from a distance while you're locked onto it. Maybe even cut off stamina costs, for fuck's sake I just want to use UGS like Gut's or Cathedral without it sucking and the viable ones tend to fall short compared to other light weapons.

>>164671312
0/10 shit game

>>164671865
>not rollcatching with stomp r2

>>164671667
In that case just follow the questline, until the church of Yorshka and kill the pilgrim and Anri.

>>164672091
>rollcatching in 4-frame recovery 16 stamina roll souls

anon...

>>164672179
and poise doesn't exist amrite guise??

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>>164672091
>stomp r2
>drain all your stamina
>get bs by a BR or laggy euro
>be ridiculed by a 14 yr old fag who used bloodring because a walkthrough guide said so
>get rekt by a passive reactive faggot who staggers you while you try to pull super moves

>>164672303
>staggered
>during stomp
eksdee my man also
>not knowing when actually use it

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Is it right to assume that starting classes in DS2 (except deprived) are efficient because it's SM that matters and not SL?

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>ugs
>ever being good in pvp past DeS
>ever mattering for meta in the slightest

>>164672498
No, because you need more souls to be spent to get another level up

>still playing shit souls 3
lmaoing@urlyfe

>>164672525
>he doesn't know about the DaS2 zwei and FUGS

>>164672631
>He just can't stop talking about it

>>164672462
Whether or not you get staggered the important thing is to land a hit while hyperarmor is activated and that shit's almost always punished considering how most people can just roll before your attacks land. Soon you will be out of HP before you can trade with stomp again, poise isn't necessarily the problem; it's the attacks being too slow to land and costing you too much stamina to continue. God forbid you try to whiff 1 or 2 hits so the other guy comes back to cash in a free attack you would be out of breath while trying to roll out of danger or continue attacking.

>>164672708
I know about those shit pvp weapons though.

>>164642530
>making that image entirely based on FCs

This is how shit this game and this general really is

>>164672525
>>164672708
>they don't know about dual smelter swords

>>164672631
>he's not invading people while they're fighting bosses and then killing them
lmaoing@urlyfe

>>164672780
>implying it's not one or two dedicated shitposters

>>164672802
Yeah now try to hit anyone remotely competent with that.

>>164672858
>he's too stupid to rollcatch

>>164672942
>he's too stupid to avoid being caught on roll

>>164672858
>>164673023
lmao implying you can roll from that glorious hitbox

>>164672802
dual smelters mean you can't put any fast weapon into offhand and those were the only saving grace of ugs users in ds2
the moment you will try to do something you're just going to get punished for this into oblivion

>>164673072
You can rollstab that attack on reaction, the fuck you're talking about.
Are you fighting some 70% equip load pve retards exclusively or something?

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>>164672780
it's not the only one, my dude. it's just for fc's, not the gen in general. although you should realize that fcs are the only case where then gen can interact en masse

>>164672125
So deacons are not really part of the questilne? I know he'll appear in firelink after them but he wont give any rewards as far as Im aware

>>164673023
>>164673136
the hitbox on the L2 is nearly impossible to avoid on some BoB arenas

>>164673136
>fast offhand weapons
the sign of a bad player who doesn't even know how to use his mainhand
the kind of person who's such a bitch he can't even finish a low HP guy with an UGS

also
>he doesn't know about backwards zwei 2hr1

>>164673517
>some BoB arenas
you mean bridge
which is also the shittiest arena in the game nobody uses ever

>>164673626
>implying you can choose