World of Warships Admiralty /wowsg/

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>tfw no stalker in a botes game

xth for lunatic complaining about everyone in the discord

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>>164618579
I have since relabled the "GRIND NOW?" column to the more descriptive "Will 0.6.0 fuck me in the ass?"

And my own personal spreadsheet has those multipliers for my own personal cutoffs. It will show "YES" if it meets those requirements, currently set as Gain/Effort > 1 (i.e. I stand to gain effectively at least 2x what I have left to grind), as well as having a penalty of at least 25000 lost xp if I don't grind it out now. I will adjust these numbers as I make my way through my captains, which helps me prioritize things.

But this is only useful if you input all your captains into a spreadsheet at once, and obviously that's not going to happen with a publicly available Google Sheets.

>tfw no crates gifted to me

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>>164619256

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hello i am your resident funposter and i did a post not too long ago

>>164602784

please like subscribe and (you)

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>>164619256

Lunatic is too autistic for himself to even be handled. First Raptor was banned for being autistic and Lunatic might be next.

>>164620412
he'll still stick around and shitpost about random anons in the thread though

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>>164620412
DELET
>Lunatic's face when

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>>164620412
Raptor used his power of autism to entertain us lads. It's unfair to group him with Lunatic desu.

>>164620602
nah he was just a medicore shitposter, the same as lunatic

>>164620412
Luger banned when?

>>164619306
Autism status: sated

>>164621476
>if less that 13 pt captain, get him to 13
its what im getting from it

what happens after the patch if the captain is retraining for another ship?

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Is the Kuma supposed to be a comfy boat? Because it feels like a comfy boat.

>>164622670
kuma is a pretty comfy bote

>>164622670
All T4 cruisers are pretty comfy.
Last good cruisers till T10

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>>164622670
Kuma is a fun ship, kuma.

Should I use AP or HE as a german DD?

>>164623678
AP 100% of the time, if you use HE you are literally a shitter

>>164623678
>Should I use german DD?

Fixed that question for you. The answer is No, btw.

>>164622308
It takes about twice as much XP to get to point 8 or 9 from scratch under the new system as it does under the current one, so getting at least that far is doing pretty well. 12 is a good place to stop, as after that point, points are easier to earn under the new system.

>>164623927
>have a few 12-15 point captains in progress
>this has killed all motivation to work on them now because I know it'll be wasted XP and I probably won't get much in the way of points to save before the changes
;_;

>>164623908
v-170 is nice though

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KsVUISS8oHs

>tfw no CWIS on Montana

>>164623908
at least we doesnt have to fear power creep

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What are these horn things on this ship?

>>164624578
Air intakes, I think?

>>164624639
This thing has a crazy amount of air intakes then.

>>164624771
there's a whole lot of space below deck and plenty of people down there, so you need a lot of air cycling through there

>>164624968
It didn't click that it'd feed to the crew compartments. That makes a lot more sense.

http://forum.worldofwarships.com/index.php?/topic/110688-german-battleships-are-hard-to-citadel/

Stop gloating.

>>164625052
>>164624771
its also for the boilers that need alot of air to burn the oil

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>>164624156
>have a few 12-15 point captains in progress
Plug those guys into the calculator if they have any captain XP already on board and see if you should grind that shit out right now.

WG looks at aggregate xp. Look at my Bayern captain, for example. I am about 3/5 of the way (79528 xp) towards getting my 14th point in her, and I currently have 411428 aggregate captain XP in her with 13 points. Come 0.6.0, the aggregate XP requirement to get 13 points will increase to 447000 XP. That's more than my current total.

So what happens when 0.6.0 hits? WG won't take away my skill points, so I'll still have 13 points, so they'll bump me up to 447000 aggregate XP so that I can keep my 13 skill points. But what happens to those 79528 captain xp I had accumulated towards the 14th point prior to 0.6.0? They disappear, of course. Or rather, they were eaten by the requirements of the previous skill points you have. Come 0.6.0, I would have a 13 point captain with 0 (ZERO) extra captain XP ground out towards the 14th skill point, effectively setting me back 75528 xp in my grind for the 14th point.

tl;dr: Check your captains now while you still have time.

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Can anyone help a new player out? People keep yelling at me to angle my armor, and I'm aware going full broadside is a fool move, but what is the optimal angle? Do you want to have most of the guns able to shoot at the guy you're fighting, or do you only want to show front turrets?

>>164625983
I already checked them, they're basically all 'fresh' into their next point so there's not going to be a whole lot of XP to lose unless I actually play them, at which point I'll have enough XP on there that I'll be losing a significant amount of grinding, but I wouldn't be close enough to actually get to the next point before the patch.

>>164623678
>>164623861
>>164623908
while we're at it whats the trick with the t-22?
cant really drop sneaky torps anymore

>>164626052
>Do you want to have most of the guns able to shoot at the guy you're fighting, or do you only want to show front turrets?
It depends on what ship you're in, what's firing at you, and what the situation is.

In short, you gotta use your brain.

>>164626252
Gotcha. Yeah, if they're all relatively fresh into a point, then just leave them alone, but if you have any decent progression towards the next skill point, you stand to lose a lot.

>>164626345
Well I'm in the Wyoming and Kuma right now. Feels like the best thing to do in the Kuma is to wiggle out when the guns are ready to fire, but I don't know what to do for the Wyoming.

>>164626546
Wiggle your Wyoming in between salvoes. Just because your rudder is slow doesn't mean your rudder is immobile.

>>164626680
I guess it's one of those things that I'll just pick up in time. I try to do it, but it feels like every time I kick my side out to fire the middle guns I get torped in the side. That or it's conformation bias.

>>164626052
In most ships if you are revealing more than your front turrets you are showing too much side. The main exceptions are KM BBs with their turtlememe armour. Whether you should stay perfectly parallel to the path of incoming shells or show a slight angle (~10°) depends on whether your bow armour can be overmatched by the incoming shells. Whether or not you should try to get your other turrets into the fight is a judgement call.

>>164626546
Wyoming is overmatched by Myogi and higher tier BBs.
Kuma is overmatched by BBs and heavy cruisers (but not Kirov).

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>>164626934
Ah. I guess I'll stick to DD's because my memory is shit and I'll never be able to remember who can overmatch me and who can't.

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Ibuki's been pretty good to me. I'm about halfway to Zao, and it hasn't felt like a grind at all.
Having premium helps, of course. My thanks to the guy who posted that massive list of codes.

>>164627491
Ibuki is a good girld and doesn't deserve the hate that she sometimes gets.

>>164627491
>>164627608
Ibuki's biggest sin is that she's a high-tier cruiser, and high-tier cruiser gameplay is zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

>>164627472
Overmatch affects DDs too
t. RN CL

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Was putting Gremys in the santa box a mistake? 8 point cruiser captain.

>>164628779
I don't get their reasoning at all since they consider it overpowered and were never going to sell it. Now I think they'll just nerf it and sell it again.

>>164628368
I know, but if I can just assume everything will murder fuck me I have to do less memorizing.
The worst part is I just got a Texas, and now I have 0 motivation to play it.

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>French BB line still not announced

>>164629385
You're 2 hours late.

>>164629437
>hai meiyou Faguo BB xian

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Slowly but surely dragging my stats up. I think I only had like two games today where I played unacceptably poorly, so maybe I'm finally starting to become more consistent in my play. Even if I'm not, I'm still more than happy with stats like these
Good night, /wowsg/!

>>164630239
Nice.
I've gone from yellow to green to blue, which is fairly decent

>>164629675
it's zhanjian you stupid laowai

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>playing a low tier BB
>holding off another BB, a DD and two CL's
>a lone destroyer pops up near the carrier
>the three cruisers supporting me bail and sail running halfway across the map to kill the DD
I just want to finish this grind.

i miss hotel poster

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I don't have enough reports

>>164630285
Glad to hear you're improving too, anon.
I'm still low blue overall myself, but I feel like I'm starting to grasp the intricacies of high tier play. Plus I started grinding up USN DDs, which has been like a breath of fresh air after being a longtime IJN DD aficionado. Seriously, USN DDs are like free WTR.

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>>164630910
>>164630285
>270 battles, 929 rating
Do I just need to give up?

>>164630463
>zhanjian
fuck off stupid commie mainlander, it's zhulijian

>>164630285
I'm so close to blue myself. To think I'd reach that 6 months ago would have been a joke.

>>164631047
It's never too late to improve. Never give up!
Seriously, 270 battles is just getting your feet wet. What's giving you trouble?

>>164630910
Are you me. Seriously.

I'm almost at Benson myself. Mahan is freaking god compared to Hatsuharu when I went up the IJN line.

>>164631047
Nah. Keep at it anon. Everyone here had shit stats. I'm 1,100 battles now and I was probably at your WTR back at 270 games.

Besides, fuck stats.

>>164631047
I was probably about the same at like ~200 battles
Now I'm purple
Just feels like it's about trying to learn how the game works, and getting experience at how different stuff plays out

We're all going to make it anons.
Whatever it is that we're looking for, I believe in you.
Even me. Maybe.

>there are taiwanboo/sinoboo gaijins in this thread

主力艦 (zhu li jian) is an ambiguous term for battleship, as it has an alternate meaning that can be confused with "flagship" or "ship of the line" instead. It is better practice to use 戰列艦 (zhan lie jian) instead, which always means battleship.

Unlike Japanese, 戰艦 (zhan jian/senkan) does not mean battleship in Chinese, it means warship.

t. Actual future puppetmaster of the planet.

>>164631491
I had about 980 WTR at about 2100 games.

Then I stopped playing IJN DDs.

>>164631859
YELLOWS WILL INHERIT THE EARTH

>>164631480
I hear a lot of people complain about the Mahan, saying it's a straight downgrade from the Farragut and such, but its only real shortcoming is the relatively high concealment. Even so, it really is fantastic compared to the Hatsuharu. I should know, I rushed to finish my Hatsu grind just before the line split. It wasn't terrible, but it always felt like I either had a great game or could've been just as well off afking for 20 minutes.
>>164631804
Yes you, anon. Especially you. We're all gonna make it.

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>>164631393
I just don't get the game. On average I do 1100-1200 in USN DD's, which I hate playing and fucking horrible in Cruisers and Battleships, which I like playing.

It feels like I have horrible gunnery overall, on a few maps I know what to do and I can do it well, others I just end up panicking. I can't get armor angling to work for me. I either end up angling out to get all my guns in the fight and doing my health in damage, or only staying straight on or 10 degree and doing fuck all.

I think the biggest problem is positioning and gunnery. I tend to overshoot my target by at least 50-100 meters and hit them on the nose if they're broadside to me, and I just suck at being at where I'm supposed to be at.

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>>164631047

>tfw 1200 battles
>902 rating

you know you're going against RN cruisers when even the japanese DDs get citadels.

>tfw afraid to tank my stats just before statskun's update
please hurry

>>164633448
""""""""""""""no""""""""""""""""

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>>164633448

its already too late anon, we're already tanking them

>>164633749
but i have to have wowsg seeing how high my name is
maybe i'll just go play coop for the rest of the night

Always remember to thank good AS CVs.

>>164634089
so nobody then?

>>164632586
Which nations do you like, and at which tiers are you at currently?
Gunnery is something you just sorta have to get a feel for as you play. If it helps, I believe each notch in the binocular view is equal to 1 second of shell flight time on a target doing 20kts, so you'd multiply the number by the stopwatch icon next to your reticule by 1.5 for most targets. For angled targets, you sorta have to draw a mental line from stern to bow for their ship, and from there you estimate the amount of lead you'll need.
I'm sorry if this is all boiling down to "you just gotta feel it bro", but aiming is something that is practiced, not taught.

>>164633448
>been playing well, average 1300 WTR the past 90 days
>stats-kun paints me orange
It all means fucking nothing. It's all just for shitposting purposes. It's not like people won't div with you unless they're elitist shits like 95% of the unicums on /wowsg/.

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>>164634228
I have a shit load of preimum ships because I thought I'd have a knack for this game, but I mainly stick to USN stuff. I'm at VII USN DD's and rank IV for everything minus CV's in Germany and IJN.

And the odd part is I hit more often if the ship is moving away or towards me, I just full retard when trying to hit a moving broadside target. I know gunnery is mostly skill, but I tend to get a lots of bounces and overpens on things I don't quite understand. I also lack the magical art of getting citadels even though I'm smashing a ship in her midsection.

>>164634294
It's because it's just measuring total account stats, which everyone (except the rerolls) has measured evenly. They're getting their early stats counted too.
I don't think anyone is really making decisions about who to div with based on those lists either, seems like most of them just have friends that they like playing with more over other anons. I'm just some standard /wowsg/ average shitter but I've played with people from the entire WR spectrum, and how enjoyable they are to div with has never really seemed to correlate to their win rates, most of them across the entire range are fun to sail botes with, there are some players with good WR and some with awful WR that are just not fun to play with and WR never really factors into it.
Although yeah, you'd be stupid to take it all seriously, if you really want to find out how good people are you're better off just playing with them.

>>164634294
I'm not sure you're aware of how good the average /wowsg/ is. I'm a purple on warships.today, and yet I'm still green because super unicums skewing the shit out of everything.

grabbing bisko broke my credit bank ;_;

>>164634294
>>164635526
Probably because WTR and WR just aren't the same thing, with statskun's lists measuring nothing but WR with purple being players with stupidly high winrates, while WTR is mostly based off how much damage you can farm in a ship compared to the averages regardless of if you win a huge amount of your games.

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>>164634832
>>164634228
To put in perspective, I got to my position to help my team late, and I have no clue what to do at this point. Everyone dead was on this flank and I arrived right as the brawl started, not able to really do piss all.

I don't know what I should've done or what would've been proper protocol from the get go.

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>>164634832
Citadels you have to hit either just below their guns/smokestack/rearguns and usually a bb can citpen by aiming at where their ship meets water level. Citpens are RNGesus btw, so if you aim just right its no guarantee for a citpen.

and RNGesus is a bitch

>>164636342
Essentially give up and cry at that point. The game's unsalvagable .

>>164636342
On maps like that in domination, it's generally a terrible idea to have multiple flanks. Just play ring around the rosie, and if people want to cry about lemming trains let them run off and die alone. Sometimes you need to know when a flank is unsalvageable and the best you can do is spam at range to hold them off. In this situation, you're already dead no matter what you do.

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I want to dump my load into Fubuki.

>>164634832
>And the odd part is I hit more often if the ship is moving away or towards me, I just full retard when trying to hit a moving broadside target.
It happens to everyone from time to time, I think. I find it helps to watch the smoke coming from your target's stacks to get a gauge on their speed.
>I know gunnery is mostly skill, but I tend to get a lots of bounces and overpens on things I don't quite understand.
If you're not confident that you'll pen the target, consider swapping to HE (after firing what you have loaded, of course). Even a relatively slight angle can bounce equal-tier shells, so you have to also get a feel for what you can pen and when you should use your AP. At tier 4, cruisers just don't have big enough guns with flat enough arcs to pen outside of close range, and even though they have tinfoil armor, even just a bit of angling will go a long way toward bouncing cruiser caliber AP off their belts. Against BBs, penning the belt at this tier is unlikely, and forget about citpens altogether. You can fire AP at the upper belt if you're close enough (think sub-8 km) and not likely to get deleted (in smoke or with island cover, basically). Otherwise, just spam HE.
Naturally, this only applies to cruisers- as a BB, you should almost always be using AP. Switch to HE only if you're brawling with another BB and they refuse to give you any side at all.
>I also lack the magical art of getting citadels even though I'm smashing a ship in her midsection.
If you're a BB, pray to RNGesus harder. Otherwise, it's all about being opportunistic with what you're firing at. Cruisers at close-ish ranges (maybe 9 or 10 km, 11 if you're optimistic) giving you a flat broadside should be easily pennable once you've zeroed in your aim. Shoot for just below the stacks on most ships, as close to the waterline as you can manage without actually splashing.
Sorry for the wall of text, but I guess there was more to it than I thought.

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>>164636483
I put my "where I want to hit" just below the the castle of the ship. I assume I really want to hit aft of the castle?

>>164636534
>>164636769
Yeah I realized I was fucked after I started sailing that way. I just feel guilty going with all the other BB's on a flank if I play a BB. I don't prefer to play selfishly, but would it be better for me overall to just 'fuck those guys over there' if it justifies me doing more damage?

Still sorry for being that shitter that ruins your games.

>>164636973
Funbucket is NOT a Fuckbucket.

>>164636342
>playing Dunk and having your flank overrun
gg

Not much you could do right there. What's more important is how you reacted to the overall flow of the battle in the few minutes prior. WoWS is a lot more about planning and being in the right place at the right time than the other WG titles.

>>164636973
I want my botefu to be real so we could at least deal with the crushing loneliness together.

>>164637073
It's fine anon. I appreciate the info dump, anything helps. I tend to put my mind cursor on on hitting just below the castle of the ship. And maybe it's just confirmation bias or the ships I play, HE always seems to do less overall than AP. Or I'm just a shit at aiming HE

>>164637119
I'm shit and I know it anon. I was /okay/ at WoT, but I know this is a different beast altogether. Its why I'm asking how to uplift my shitterself.

>>164637086
Anon it sounds like you're just mediocre, not one of the truly terrible people that actually ruins games.
The fact that you're actually trying to get better puts you above most of the random pubbies. I believe in you, we're all going to make it.

>>164637306
But anon, your botefu is real, just probably at the bottom of the sea.

>>164637545
If you're firing HE, you should aim to hit the much thinner superstructure, not the belt. You'll actually pen and do more damage, as well as setting more fires.

>>164637545
HE basically has to be aimed differently to AP, when you're trying to hit citadels with AP you're looking more for the waterline, whereas with HE you really want it to be coming down on their superstructure, if you shoot it at the armored belt (or in something like US DDs with small shells coming down onto BB decks) then the shells are going to shatter and you'll do no damage.

>>164637549
But that's why she's lonely too.
>tfw you'll never be able to save her
;_;

>>164636342
Hoo boy, okay, this is bad. I'm gonna agree with the other anons and say there wasn't much you could do here, aside from sticking more closely to your team. A lone BB is easy pickings, especially if they're surrounded.
I don't know what led up to you getting in this situation, so I can't really tell you what led up to things going this wrong, but maybe you could upload a replay or something?
>>164637545
The true value of HE isn't usually the damage the shells themselves do, but rather the fires that you set with them. Even so, if you want to get the most out of your HE shells, you'll have to aim for the unarmored sections of a ship. Generally, this is the superstructure, the bow, and the stern, though larger caliber HE should 'pen' the upper belt of ships just fine, and hitting just about anywhere will do on unarmored ships like DDs or CLs. The important thing is that your shells don't shatter, which happens when they hit thicker armor and causes them to deal no damage. It's roughly analogous to bouncing AP shells, but I think HE shells that shatter still have a chance of causing a fire, so they're not completely worthless. This is also why you fire HE if you're not sure you can pen with AP- you can potentially deal at least some damage or force out DCP, even if the target is perfectly angled.

>>164638049
You just need money to bring her up.

>>164638117
>led up led up led up led up
I'm gettin too tired for this.

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>>164637546
I know. I just feel like a total piece of shit when all I can do is face tank a entire flank while not doing shit all of damage.

>>164637717
>>164638117
Okay I'll go for more plunging fire with HE. I treated it more or less like AP.

>>164638117
Basically what happened, I spawned furthest from the flank, I ran over there to try to help that flank, and half way there I realized I fucked up but I was already headed that way so I might as well try to stall that flank.

>>164637549
but what if my botefu was a paper ship made up by WG, like the Roon?

that means my botefu is NOT real.

>>164638781
>I realized I fucked up but I was already headed that way so I might as well try to stall that flank.
If you do run into this again, you're basically never going to be able to make a stand and hold them, but you can try to make a fighting retreat, open up what range you can (espeically in faster ships) and just try to stay alive while hitting them as you run. You don't need to kill them all off or stay alive forever, but just having some ship around delaying them however you can is still useful. Even in something like the slow BBs, they'll catch up to you and eventually you'll probably just die, but try to maximize your impact however you can with things like angling and swerving to dodge fire and smart use of consumables. Sometimes a ship just being a pain in the ass and slowing down a push even for a little while (especially if you're resetting their cap progress) can really help win a game, as opposed to one that just charges ahead and dies without getting more than one salvo off.

Though as other anons have said, you probably should have just pushed the flank you were on from the beginning. If you think the other flank is going to lose, sometimes the best thing you can do is just try to make sure your flank wins as hard as possible, and that involves actually pushing, which is where pubbie lemmingtrains tend to fall apart and fail. Having someone there to try to lead them and tank damage can sometimes get them to commit and use their numbers to overwhelm the enemy team on that flank, or if they already are it can make it all go faster.

>>164638781
You don't really even need to go for plunging fire, just make sure you're hitting the unarmored parts of the ship.
Also, when we say to angle your ship, we don't mean you have to stay 100% bow on all the time. It's okay to soften your angle a bit to get your rear guns in, especially if your biggest threats have already fired and have their guns on cooldown. The average battleship guns have a 30 second reload, so you can play around that. The important thing is that you don't show a flat broadside to anyone who can take advantage of it, because even DD AP can slap you for 2-3k every few seconds if you give them a broadside at a close enough range.

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Should have been Iowa.

Is the the brit CL line as good as it sounds?

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>>164619341
>poor
>asian
>unemployed
>not in school
>starts shit
>false flags
>autistic

Who knows tehehehe

>>164640160
Purple Heart is a shit CPU, and is completely indefensible. Just thought I'd chime in here.

>>164640160
doesn't he work at some chinese place?
he posted a photo in the KC general on /jp/ and someone found it on google earth

>>164640160
Hey fuck you don't use Nepu for such low quality shitposting

>>164640324
nep is trash desu

>>164640014
>no HE
>no armor
>final destination
How good does it sound? Because it's pretty shit until high tiers. Imagine a cruiser line that can't do a thing to any DD who figures out angling.

>>164607975

Sorry for the late response. I've sent the Warships.Today webmaster an email explaining the issue, hopefully he'll resolve it.

>>164640324
>low quality shitposting
>is a truth bomb

I wonder who is behind this post.

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>>164640468
haha you got me it was I, Snoozing_Mako all along!

>>164640378
Purge fagstation lovers

>>164640160
>asian
Literally 70% of /wowsg/ is Chinese or something, if the Discord population is to be trusted.

Assuming the discord is only 20% of the total /wowsg/ population (a conservative estimate, could be higher), we can extrapolate to find the total number. I'd estimate that there are 300 Chinese in /wowsg/, when assessing the sample count from the Discord. That means that there are only 47 white people here.

>>164640603
but only shitposters join the discord
so it means that 70% of wowsg's shitposters are chinese

>>164640660
Another truth bomb, let's stop for now.

>>164640785
But anon, I want to know how many whites there are in /wowsg/. I want to know if /wowsg/ is a safe place for my future children, and that we can secure a homeland in /wowsg/.

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>>164639429
>>164639713
I know. It's just games like this where I don't really know what I could've done better, how I overpen'd a BB's side armor, how I bounced a BB's ass.

But thanks. You guys have taught me a lot and I'm going to continue to try to push myself out of shitter tier.

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>>164640970
Me in the middle, /wowsg/ is the class

>>164641151
>/wowsg/ is made up of one white man and 40 Japanese girls

sounds about right

Is there anything more annoying than trying to hit an angled cruiser sailing away from you?

Even if you get a hit it'll probably just be a 1K damage go-through while he burns you to death

>>164641721

Trying to hit an angled DD.

>>164641090
If you hit the thinner parts of BBs like the bow or stern, or something like the superstructure, it'll just overpen. It's why going for the "center" of the ship along the waterline is the best bet, because even if you don't hit the citadel you'll still get regular pen damage.
Bouncing off the stern is likely just because you didn't have the caliber to overmatch and it hit at a bad angle, getting a good idea of what you're guns can and can't overmatch is a pretty helpful thing to learn.
Just remember that not even the best players aren't going to win all of their games, some are just impossible to carry which is why the highest WR players are still only going to get like 70-80%. Those sort of matches are really not the sort to beat yourself up over, I've always been more concerned with trying to focus on improving at some aspect of the game each match, and not really worrying so much about if it's a win or loss.

>>164641749
Would a tier 8 DD be able to beat the Yamato using only its main guns?

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>>164640410
A-Am I being stalked? That's my name in that post.

https://asia.warships.today/player/2005450171/LunaticRedMoon

Why is this guy considered "good" again? Everything seems pretty unremarkable.

>Is a CAsual
>only plays 2 ship lines
>statpads at tier 6

>>164642072
I needed to quickly look up someone someone on SEA who plays IJN DDs, and you were the first one who came to mind.

>>164642102
stop flattering yourself lunatic, fuck off cunt

>>164642039
Yes, it'd require a pretty big skill gap but it's possible, especially with fires being a big equalizer.

>>164641090
I really am heading off now, but I'd like to again suggest that you share a replay or several with us. I'm sure at least a few of us here would be more than happy to analyze your play, myself included.
As a final parting suggestion, work your way down your tech tree lines some more. It's generally considered a bad idea to play a class at a tier you have no experience in, and if your highest non-DD ships are all T4, jumping right in with mid-tier BBs like Dunk/Warspite is just asking for trouble. If you feel like you're capable with captaining those ships, feel free to disregard this, but there's a lot to be learned through going down the normal lines that I feel might be missed by playing only premiums.
In any case, best of luck to you, anon. We're all gonna make it.

>>164642287
>I'm sure at least a few of us here would be more than happy to analyze your play, myself included.
This. I've done it for other anons before in the past, and I'm happy to do it again.

>>164642287
>>164641090
Whoops, I forgot to mention that if you're interested in sharing your replays, do this:
>https://na.wargaming.net/support/kb/articles/517
and upload the file somewhere, then share the link with us here.

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>>164641895
Yeah. I just wish I could grasp this like I did WoT. I know 1900 WN8 is nothing special, but at least it meant I was somewhat competent at the game.

>>164642287
I do fine in the tier VI stuff, but I refuse to play any premium I bought over tier VII. And I don't feel comfy having my name out their. I have a Agato and a few others I don't play because I don't understand them or the tiering. I really do appreciate the help, as a regular from old WoTg you guys are nice and caring enough.

I'm going to strive henceforth to only improve myself here out.

Thanks mates.

>>164642627
Yeah, you're certainly not the worst player I've seen. And if you're worried about your WTR, then it looks like your problem is low damage, because the majority of it is based on your damage.
Getting a good feel of what you can and can't pen (playing around in the armor viewer can be a helpful for this, getting a feel for how heavily different ships are armored and where their citadel hitboxes are) and how your shells perform is definitely a good thing to work on early.

Official music of the thread:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRk54D_9M34

hey guys is this the Lunatic general?

>>164644114

t. madman crimson

is there ever a time that isn't lunatic shitposting hour?

>>164644618
I think it's Lunatic doing it for attention because everyone blocked him on Discord.

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So I guess if Luger banned him, he must be the true mastermind behind all the shitposting, falseflagging and stalking...

>>164644967

t. crazy scarlet

>people who shitpost about anons who don't division with them
Do they think it's going to make those people want to play with them?

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>>164645147
They could just be shy.

What music do you listen to while you torpedo battleships in your speedy speedy destroyer?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHaV2rJfHuI

>>164645147
>people who shitpost about anons playing with other anons they don't like
Do "they" aka small L think it's going make these people avoid each other?

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>>164645109
>crazy scarlet

How easy is it to get damage with Yamato?
I'm having a lot of trouble getting anything done with Izumo, but I see vids and even glancing hits with Yamato deals 4k damage and such. Is that how it usually goes?

>>164645198
They'd probably get better results just talking to them then, I don't think most of the ones who get shitposted about are actually elitist, seems more like when they have to decide between div partners they're probably going to pick their friends over someone complaining about them in the thread.

>>164645370

t. bonkers burgundy

>>164645410
Yes, as long as you're decent at hitting things with the guns, you won't have much issue dealing damage with the hits.

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>>164645668
It's mostly Australian shitposting.

>>164645705
t. Tunnel of oceanic current

t. Rectal Friendey

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>>164645743
Akagi-senpai!

>>164645814
>roleplaying as Fubuki

come on now anon, it's too early in the day for that

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>>164645862

>>164645801
>Friendey
Heheheh

>>164645960
>laughing at your own joke

come on Lunatic

>10% of /wowsg/
>80% of discussion

SEA truly is the most powerful race in the world.

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>>164646158
no

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>>164646212
It's an established fact, buddy.

>>164646253

>most powerful race in the world

fucking powercreep

>38 unique IPs

How many of these are Lunatic?

>ITT: Everyone is Lunatic

>>164646069
*I* am Lunatic!

How do I enable replays, do I have to DL a mod or is there an option in vanilla already?
also:
fuck wg and their mod system, I had skins for all my botes and a week later they change the version, I copy-paste the folder contents and lo and behold it didn't work, so now I have to re-do all the fucking steps again

>>164646401
No I am Lunatic

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>>164647161
It was said that you would destroy the shitposters, not join them!
Bring balance to the thread, not leave it in darkness!
You were my brother Lunatic! no homo

what cruisers/dd's are the best at torping?

>shitposting about yourself to become a victim

Autism

>>164647747
High tier US DDs and Atago.

>>164631859
>主力艦 (zhu li jian) is an ambiguous term for battleship, as it has an alternate meaning that can be confused with "flagship" or "ship of the line" instead.
And in Russian, battleships are literally called "ship of the line" (and destroyers are "squadron minecarriers").

>ywn be white master race

JUSTO FAKKU MY SHITTU UP PHAM

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ded

I'm back from vacation in 4 days, I haven't completed any of the Graf Spee missions, is it too late

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Ottoman ships when?

>>164650538
T*rkroaches have no place in this game, and Anatolia is rightful Hellenic clay.

>>164650567
Why is it the Christian Turks rightful clay?

>>164650628
Because they're far more cross about it.

>>164650754
Ask me how I know you're a degenerate on welfare.

>>164650806
t. urk

Woosh
>>164650806

>>164637650
>HE pens cause more fires
Proofs

ded

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Kebab is best bote

>>164650421
It took again 2 days to do phase 3 which needed more xp than previous ones. Now I'm waiting until monday to continue the missions.
You can complete previous missions easily before last one unlocks.

>>164651489
feel the balanse

>>164651616
This is because you have no gf to chill with

A Lexington did 33,000 damage + fires to my bismarck in a single run with its bombers

>>164652907
There is literally nothing wrong with this.

A Bismarck literally did 40900 damage with 4 shells in a single salvo to my zao with it's main battery

>>164653153
It should have deleted you with just one shell. Praise game mechanism.

>>164652797
That is because Katori is my gf.

>>164653153
>Playing the gimped class

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>https://worldofwarships.com/en/news/common/reachtheunreachable/
>Murmansk
Where?

>>164653320
camo rating too high))))

>>164628779
Putting Gremlin and Nikolai in boxes was a brilliant way to get ppl to spend more without actually increasing the population of the ships by all that much. And they were telling the truth about not SELLING them ever again.

>>164653320
>15 bucks for shitty digital boat

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>>164653412
>bought 5 boxes for myself for Christmas
>just camos
>read stories about people getting 5 ships out of 5

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Steel Ocean or this?
How is f2p model? Is it p2w?

>>164653881
It is surprisingly a good game

>>164653881
>Steel Ocean or this?
This.
>How is f2p model?
It's okay.
>Is it p2w?
A little bit. It doesn't matter unless you like cruisers and want to play ranked.

>>164654031
>>164654067
then give me a referral code for EU server

>>164654067
>unless you like cruisers and want to play ranked.

?????

>>164654145
https://playtogether.worldofwarships.eu/invite/wOV2e52
Have fun

>>164654234
Thanks senpai

>>164654170
Atago and Kutuzov are by far and away the best T8 cruisers, and they are both premium ships. Chapayev is the only silver ship that comes close. No other class of ship has this level of divide between its silvers and its premiums at this tier.

>>164654307
mogami > kutuzov in ranked

>>164654307
but you could get the ARP version of that

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>>164654337
Provide evidence.
>>164654364
Yes, "could". ARP Takao is no longer available, and anon just asked for a referral link today.

>>164653153
That was the only time that a German BB hit the target with half his shells on your server today.
The rest of the playerbase thanks you for your service.

>>164653749
It's the premium and doubloons that drive the price up.

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mines when

>>164654704
>Releasing British secret document
Prepare to be sharia courted!

>>164654704
>no own losses, I promise guv'nah!
oh britain, you are hilarious

why'd they split the midway video into 2 parts when together they're just as long as any other episode of naval legends?

>>164656639
They probably couldn't finish it in time, so they went ahead and released the first half. :^)

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ebin

>>164656719
part 2 is here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zt25tLEBHYs

>>164656728
outskilled

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>>164656728

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWj4eWziwDI

FUCK THIS GAME MODE

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>>164622670
>baBBies
>fearing Kuma

kek

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>>164656728
Try this on for size (^:

>>164657821
>that div
Disgusting.

What's your favourite bote that you never play?

What can I do in RU DDs and IJN CAs to raise my winrate? Usually I push into a cap as far as I can without eating too much damage to support other DDs and then make my way to where the enemy outnumbers us to kite and stop them from advancing but my winrate remains pretty mediocre and I don't know what more I could do.

>>164658067
Your mom

>>164658067
yes

>>164658101
>RU DD
spam napalm at enemies from max range

>IJN CAs
spam napalm at enemies from max range and invisbility

>>164658101
>RU DD
Go Somalia speedboat on those little IJN DD (especially after they fired their torps)
Also don't initiate cap alone (unless you're the only DD around)

>bought 5 more 3 dollar crates
>20 camos and 3 sets of 25 dragon flags
>ship received bloop plays
>emden

REEEEEEEEEEEEE

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>>164658594

>enemy team gets 5 DDs, a Kutuzov, and an Ebinburgh
>There is no one to shoot at because of the walls of smoke and our entire team gets vaporized
>the Ebinburgh didn't even get spotted until the end because he just moved to DDs smokes

wow this is a really great mechanic thanks WG

>>164658419
>>164658184
I already do that I'm looking for something to raise my winrate even more.

Wow amazing you guys are posting these epic screenshots and webms

#Egoistical
#Autism
#MuhStats

>buy Graf Spee for cheap
>clear Christmas Convoy campaign, get freebies
>clear Graf Spee campaign, get credits equivalent of another Graf Spee
B A D G O Y
A
D
G
O
Y

Another competition on SEA, this time slightly less retarded than the earlier one when it comes to requirements, however it's only available to players with less than 1000 battles. Pity the prizes are still rather uninteresting.

http://forum.worldofwarships.asia/index.php?/topic/21657-out-of-the-dry-dock/

>>164660363
You still paid real world money though. Plus, you're only getting silver credits; it's not like you end up getting the value of the ship in doubloons.

The only Christmas Convoy campaign worth doing is the Leander; all other low tier tech tree line grinds are fun.

>>164661320
Zzz

>>164661591
Yeah, I know.

But people like Evelyn, Haifisch and Umidoori can still do it, and maybe get some free XP.

Don't worry, next time there's a good one that gives out doubloons, I'll let you know likewise.

DE or AFT for slav menance DDs?

>>164661713
I don't play CVs.

>>164661713
>Evelyn
who

>>164662087
AFT first always.

>>164662087
Both

So RU forums have leaked that 6.0 is going to be leaked. This seems to be real since the forum admin quickly deleted the post. Apparently they want to do a 2nd round of PT servers as they aren't happy with the results. Believe it or not, for a completely different reason than NA and EU are upset; RU feels that this upcoming patch is a nerf to BB's of all things, and are very upset about that.

>>164662738

I mean 6.0 is going to be delayed.

>>164662738
>RU feels that this upcoming patch is a nerf to BB's of all things, and are very upset about that.

How in the literal fuck

>>164662738
So in the second iteration, BBs will be buffed even more?

>>164662738
Battleships can't fare against those pesky torpedo and island camping cruisers. These nerfs are unnecessary!

>>164662738
Does this mean that I might get a chance to keep German Hydro on my Bismarck

Thank you RU for keeping me safe

>>164662738
Source? I just read it was delayed for a second ptr because they're doing further changes to captains. Nothing on BBs.

>>164662907
>>164662843
>>164662818

I don't understand *how* they feel this way, but they do. They feel the moving of BoS, JoAT, and a few other skills for BB suitability are a huge nerf. They especially got upset when the nerf to prem consumables was announced as it's BB's that suffer the most from that. That said, BB's are played differently on the RU than NA so given their version of the meta, it makes sense they would be more concerned about these things.

>>164663016

If you can read russian, the Russian Forums themselves will tell you it's being delayed. As far as why, well read the general section on the RU forums and you'll see what the common complaints/fears of the upcoming 6.0 is. You add one to the other, especially when you consider the player base on RU actually gets their wishes heard... well not hard to figure out.

>>164662738
kurwa

Just get it over with.

>>164662818
>How in the literal fuck
Seconded. Its ok to nerf other classes but not BB's ? What is their logic ?

>>164663123
Maybe I should make a RU account just to have my vote heard.

You have been tasked with farming the Die-Hard achievement for flags. What ship do you take and why?

>>164663313
probably russian DD and try to ram IJN boat

>>164663445
The Tashkent ram build? kek

>>164663313
>Spoonfeed me, I can't think for myself.
Just take a Ncar, Amagi, Baltimore, shitter.

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>>164663313
Tashkent

>>164663485
?????

>>164663312

You don't do this already? Every Russian speaker on EU and NA should be doing this. I sure do. That said I doubt most people on NA would agree with my complaints since I'm a CAsual and view the nerfs to DDouches as a good thing.

>>164662213

A qt who flicks_____ "her" bean at the sound erotic storytime over discord.

>>164663123
I think it's because it's unhappiness overall. A lot of players are unhappy with the commander changes and I'm sure WG wants to get such a large overhaul right. To assume this is just because Russian bias is jumping the gun a bit.

>>164664179

I'm Russian, and I'll tell you the RU bias is real. To say it isn't it to just ignore the truth.

The RU is upset over a few key changes, but from a BB players POV not a DD's.

>>164664179
Everything is the result of russian bias tovarish )))

>>164664310

cont'

Also they don't like that the total XP required for going 0-19 wasn't reduced dramatically, as a leak last month said it was.

>>164664310
First off, no you aren't. Second, can you supply proof? 6.0 doesn't nerf BBs, DDs are by far the victims here. How does 6.0 nerf BBs? If you are Russian then you can shed some light.

>>164664531


1.7 million exp tovarisch

>>164664542

Well it' a matter of perspective. I mean I can't prove I'm Russian anymore than you can prove you're not a Russian. As far as to how they see it as a nerf to BB's; BoS, JoAT, Premium Consumables, and a bunch of other things, favored on RU for BB's, who play MUCH more aggressively then they do on NA, are all being nerfed/made more difficult to acquire. Bog standard BB builds are harder to manage now and they aren't happy. Simple as that. Nothing is secret here, go read the RU forums.

>>164664880
I heard the RU players like to hug the borders.

>>164664880
>Tank builds being much more viable
>This is a nerf
Slavs confirmed as subhuman

>>164665125

Not that I've seen. They just don't play DD"s much. Whereas on NA you'll get at least 2-3 DD's per side, game with 0 dd's on RU is fairly common. Cruisers also play a lot differently, way more aggressive and a lot more torp runs.

>>164665219
Is this why they nerf IJN DDs? Because there's no one playing it so it's fine?

>>164665219
can russian babbies not fucking aim or what? sounds like you should be able to delete one cruiser after the other on RU

>>164665219
>game with 0 dd's on RU is fairly common
I guess they think they need a second RU DD line to fix that.

Do you think CV diving with 2 DM is obnoxious?

>>164665429
I think CV with 2 hindenburgs is worse.

>>164665308

I want you to do something. Go play as even the Pensacola, poster child for the delete key CA, and charge an enemy bb headlong. You'd be surprised how often this works. NA CA's spend too much time trying to be squishy BB's, shooting at max-ish range, inevitably maneuvering ALOT to stay in range (and thus showing weakspots), and getting nailed as a result.

>>164665294

That, I can't say, other than they don't view what was done to them as a nerf. You can argue the opinions of this till you're blue in the face, but they don't view the tree split as a nerf.

>>164665294
That might explain why all the DD lines recently. Not only cheap and easy to make but to get RU to play them.

what can i do with karma points?

>>164665632
Brag

>>164665590
So Shit BB who don't know who to aim at charging CA.
The only CA that can Bow-on are DM and Moskva.

>>164665219
So RU are BBabbies and hate DD hence why they get nerfed hard every patch.

NA sounds similar to EU, healthy proportions on botes, sometimes we have 5 DD a side.

>>164665728
Pls no gloating

>>164665590
>Go play as even the Pensacola, poster child for the delete key CA, and charge an enemy bb headlong. You'd be surprised how often this works.

any competent player would just fucking citpen you through the nose and kill you in two salvos.

>>164665769
Are you a fucking mouthbreather? Do you have a cock in your mouth when you play the game? Post your last 10 replays and let's see those 5 DDs per team.

Do it you fucking cocksucker.

>>164665743

You're not getting how this works. I'm not talking about bow oning like a BB does: i.e. point you're nose at the enemy at 15-20km and then going 1/4 forward or even reverse and taking shots while psuedo immortal, I mean *charging* full speed, dodging fire as best you can, to get in range to force him to either a) show his broadside to you, or to your team, or b) if you have torps, stick one up his ass. I see, and do, this all the time on RU. I never see it on NA.

>>164665769

They just aren't interested in DD's. They just don't appeal. Whenever WGing announces more DD's inevitably a group of people on the RU forums complains that they are taking time away from developing more BB's/CA's. Notice not balance issues, just that they'd rather have more of the other ships. I don't quite understand the obsession with DD's on the other servers to be quite fucking honest. Why the hell do people like them so much? It's not like they were the famous faces of Warships. And from a gameplay standpoint there is at this point no logical reason to enjoy them.

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>>164666079
ARE YOU DISSING ON MUH FUBUKI? THE REVOLUTIONARY DD THAT CHANGED THE WORLD?

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>RU server has almost no DDs
>incredibly aggressive CAs and BBs

inb4 it's just a trick to try and lure people into their gulag

>>164666079
I can see why RU got wrecked by EU in cross server matches

Carrying power tier list
CV
DD
BB
CA/CL

>>164666274

I mean is this really the only reason people play DD's? The frikken anime bullshit?

https://worldofwarships.com/en/news/common/og_minekaze/

worth it?

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>>164666274
t. not best DD

>>164666503
>he doesn't have kamikaze R
Also yes. You get what Minekaze was before torp nerfs.

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>>164666079
Probably because in Russia, there isn't any Naval heritage except being a massive failure.

In other countries, individual DDs are known for their efforts in the war, e.g. Shigure, Johnston, Glowworm.

Also DD playstyle is generally the fastest pace of the game.

>>164666079
I'm skeptical. Why would they be doing a Russian DD split if no one played them? Or German DDs. IJN DDs. If WG likes sucking off RU as much as you say these strategies don't make sense.
Also how RU BBs are pushed back in favor of RN BBs or other lines. It just doesn't make sense.

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>>164666562
>implying

>>164666498
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fubuki-class_destroyer
>The Fubuki-class destroyers (吹雪型駆逐艦 Fubukigata kuchikukan?) were a class of twenty-four destroyers of the Imperial Japanese Navy.[1] The Fubuki class has been described as the world's first modern destroyer.[2] The Fubuki class set a new standard not only for Japanese vessels, but for destroyers around the world. They remained formidable opponents to the end of World War II, despite being much older than many of their adversaries.[3]

>>164666079
>And from a gameplay standpoint there is at this point no logical reason to enjoy them.
Easiest class to actually play the objective, fast at getting around the map, stealthy and agile to the point that a good one is harder to kill than a BB, everyone is afraid of torpedoes, most really underestimate their guns, smoke has the greatest utility of any consumable, and DD knifefights are the most exciting same class conflict.

>>164666619

Um... funny you posted that picture. You know the DD in that picture got nailed to the fucking wall right? Event he most famous DD action of the war, Battle Off Samar, ended badly from a human standpoint for the DD's.

>>164666637

To get people to play them. Jap DD's never are played on RU. USN sometimes. The only ones you see with even a semblance of regularity or RU ones. Also, it's no coincidence they are Cold War error. People still know those DD's so adding them will encourage them to play them.

And not *everything* is purely nationalistic. You're mixing Nationalism, and gameplay styles/preferences. RU prefers BB's and CA's, that's it, don't read anymore into it than that. Whether they want RN or IRN first is an entirely different issue.

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WHERE
ARE
MY
ITALIAN
BBS

>>164666778

By this token, they deserve nerfs if they are inherently easier to do well in and have better guns, survivability, and tactical movement then everything else. I don't agree with you, but if this were the case the nerfs would be deserved.

>>164666693

You didn't answer the question. I can bring up 100's of articles about other BB's and CA's that have the same effect on their respective ship types. Why do people LIKE DD's, when clearly the devs dont.

>>164667040
Because DDs look sexier than the BBs?

>>164667330

t. pedophile

>>164666006
Im EU.

>>164666079
DD rock bro, stealthy motherfuckers who wreck shit.

No wonder RU get there shit pushed in.

>>164666079
Tbh I like DDs basically only in divs, but I really love them there.
There's something about how helpful I can be to support my divmates that I really enjoy, that other classes can't do. Plus it's fun to go fast around the map, and be the best at capping.

>>164666902
in the upcoming ru bb line ))))))))

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>>164667354
Tell me this isn't sexy.

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>Battle end in 5 minute
>Our BB still have full health

>>164666885
It got ambushed by 2 German DDs and Hipper in heavy fog, it fought till it had no armament and rammed the Hipper, there was no escape, but countries with naval tradition, you fight with everything you have, even if it means your ship.

Battle off Samar, actually the Japanese underperfomed massively, largely due to the suicidal tactics of the DDs and DEs in their last stand to protect the landing forces.

>>164667330

Yeah I call bullshit on this. You mean to tell me with the 100's of BB classes, 100's of CA"s, and yes, dozens of CV's, the class some people have gotten hot an bothered by were DD's? A class that btw don't even resemble the way they work in game. They were not fucking torpedo boats in reality, nor were they stealthy. In fact they more often got mistaken for CL's then a TB. They're primary contribution to the war was ASW, which is not nothing, but not necessary in WoWs. The current version of DD's in WoWs is a fantasy ship that bears 0 resemblance to way these boats operated.

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>>164667479

Needs to be bigger.

https://worldofwarships.com/en/news/common/reachtheunreachable/
>Melchior: Smith
>Gaspar: Tachibana
>Balthazar: Emden

What did wg mean by this?

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>>164667632
No, small is good.

>anon talking out his ass and pretending to be Russian fir (You)s
Yeah, haven't seen this in my tenure on this site.

>>164667553

And no BB's were sunk yet all 3 DD's and most of the DE's were destroyed with most hands.

DD's attacking capital ships makes for heroic stories but in a strategic and even tactical sense it *never* EVER worked. There's never been a single BB sunk by a DD. A few WWI BB's sunk by TB's, but no DD has ever claimed a BB kill.

>>164667479
>that dirty rear smoke stack
hot

>>164667561
>A class that btw don't even resemble the way they work in game.
Name me one class that does. This game is anything but historically accurate. I can't even begin to understand why it's so hard for Russians to wrap their head around enjoying destroyers. You can't tell me history matters when everyone's favorite BB is the Yamato.

>>164667745
Whoretel pussied out after getting torpedos at her.

>>164667745
>but in a strategic and even tactical sense it *never* EVER worked.
But it did work, that's the point. They turned back the assaulting force and saved their landing craft, which was their job.

>>164667817

CA's approximately work the way they do, as do BB's. Actually, that said, BB's are *UNDER* powered compared to their real world counterparts in anti-ship warfare (not AA or vs. CV, that's a whole different thing) when you consider the secondaries in these games behave more or less retardedly.

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>>164667706

It needs to be bigger.

>>164667915
>hit more shells with main gun than in real life
>underpowered
???

>>164667915

Yeah you actually are correct. The problem is that there is no cap or wait on the amount of BBs to represent their limited and expensive nature. If BBs had CV levels of profit with forced MM and a cap of 1-2 per game with buffs, it would go a long way to balancing them.