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Madness Edition

Shadowverse is a free-to-play, class-based collectible card game similar to Hearthstone /hsg/
The expansion, Rise of Bahamut released on Dec. 29th.
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Platforms: iOS, Android, Steam (http://store.steampowered.com/app/453480/)

Official Website:
https://shadowverse.com/

Card Database/Deck Editor:
https://shadowverse-portal.com/

Intro Guide/FAQ:
http://pastebin.com/xNmQuDzR (embed) (read this if you're new)
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Ibw62rcFMrkvWl_KPKUuRC_0f7LbvwE27ubQ-EJo0oQ/edit?usp=sharing

Take 2 Card Rankings:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1k55fDS9LpX66H-pm5EgGouqwQSCF-sje-o5UwrXUwdI/htmlview#

Get your cheat sheets here (To be fixed): http://imgur.com/a/oj8uw

Card Collection Tracker/Pack EV Calculator:
Make a copy to edit your own.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1UyixeCyjXhdnFKgxTP-ILk_lMKBZ6kUoZHn9TaytYXo/edit?usp=sharing
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All-in-one Steam undub and uncensor UPDATED WITH BAHAMUT:

Link:
https://mega.nz/#!6IRACSjb

Password Key:
!47l0bjno5dE3Scb5C2-LCZNrhY7pDa3N1QfNQsRuq3U
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Updated card art package.

-Added RoB art
-Fixed Vampire Queen art which was flipped upside down
-Changed filenames to match the card names (card number is still included)
-1163 images, 1.68 GB

https://mega.nz/#!ukI2WaQa!Zn7RRA69BqYHOTw4_mBUJegmebn3n17yZpzOWsrPCTs

A growing collection of animated golds/legendaries:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1QUpZN9cgz0dvh637EYl5Pcx7PkXJlpufIL9Muc08jB8/edit#gid=1781390872

Come here if you want to search for card artworks:
http://www.corpetit.com/public/rage_of_bahamut/

Search by artists:
http://seesaawiki.jp/mnga_bahamut/
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You can listen and download both EN/JP voices for cards at this place:
http://usamin.love/sv.html

Get your iDOLM@STER Emblems and Sleeves with this guide:
http://steamcommunity.com/app/453480/discussions/0/152390648098880643/

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>Phoenix Roost
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I want to make Luna pregnant!
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>>164592107
Nth for Nep
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post lewd luna I need to recharge my crystals for JO dragon. I'm on 5 game winstreak and my crystals are dimming
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Play Forestcraft
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Vampy-chan!
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>>164592325
Nep is the worst legendary of RoB

>>164592198
Keep cawing on, famalam
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>tfw outlasting 2 olivias as taboo dirtrune
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What happened to all you fags who were laughing calling Daria and a meme and that people actually fell for the meme? That deck is stil the most played on ranked and it still nets fast wins even if you do at times brick. But what deck doesn't brick?
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>>164592369
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>>164592325
>he hasn't vialed his nephthys yet
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BASED Gobu
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>>164592480
This thread is 80% sub A0, man. How else do you account for the "JO dragon" meme here.
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>>164592272
you'd need to wait a decade until she's old enough to be allowed to talk to boys
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No one can stop the roach
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>>164592327
>A-anon I...
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>>164592327
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Can anyone help me for suicide blood gold farming? 90580 15/20
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>>164592457
>Top Nep
>worse than Wolf
>worse than Eidolon
>worse than Dragoon

If you wanted to just type words that would hurt me, at least make them true

>>164592545
>vialing Nep when I pulled 3, one of which is animated

"no."
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nth for BURST STREAM
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Do you guys play this game to look at the sexy girls or just to wish you WERE the sexy girls?
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I'm AA2 and feel like I've hit a brick wall now.
Is my deck trying to do too much at once? I really like putting Unica into ambush for free heals and potential cyclone blades but I dont know if its really worth it.
I ended up with two odins since I run into Seraph so much now and took floral fencer out since she gets me into trouble vs other swords. Where as Teena usually gets two kills on a turn 4 Evo. I feel like I could do without tsubaki, but every time I pull her out of my deck I run into a situation where I immediately regret it.
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>>164592480
If anything Daria bricks a lot less than other decks just because of all the low cost draw spells stuffed in the deck
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>>164592548
Cool, please teach me your ways senpai. I'm having trouble in AA2. What do you do when they play Daria turn 4, and drop an ogler and emmylou?
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Is Lord of the Flies ever going to be relevant again or can I safely liquefy him for some much needed vials
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PSA
If your enemy plays a white wolf, don't kill it yourself unless it will give them lethal on its own. Force them to ram it into a follower on their turn so this doesn't happen to you.
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>>164592650
I like the one with the pantsu
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>>164592369
>people seriously, genuinely, unironically believe Levi is stronger than roach
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>>164592762
I play it because i like the gameplay to be honest, anime tiddies is just a bonus.
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>>164592769
use front lines
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Can someone post a Bahamut Haven decklist, please?

I'm tired of being run over by Daria.
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>>164592565

SPARKLY!!!
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>>164592762
both
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>>164592372
Cunnyverse!
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>>164592762
I want to be EXACTLY like Vampy.
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when are we going to get a
good sword lead
good rune lead
good haven lead
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>>164592809
>see this after I dusted my 2 fairy princesses
JUST
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Are 2 Atomys worth keeping? I dont see myself playing them ever.
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>>164592842
9 out of 10 times you won't get a setup like in that webm

levi will ALWAYS be 7 damage from hand for 2pp, dariacraft has like60% winrate when going second because of his 3 evolves
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>>164592510
Go ahead.

All shadow legos except cerb are dead.
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>>164592803
Just liquify all your shadow cards while you are at it; the whole craft is dead and banished.
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>>164592889
THIS IS A JAPANESE MEDUSA
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>>164592690
4 more to go!
90580 16/20
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posted in dead thread

>second time ever doing take two
>playing sword
>get 5 wins without even a challenge

So what's the general tier list in take two?
I'm assuming sword is at the top.
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>>164592973
there will come a day where you will want to atomeme all over someone, and on that day, you will look back with regret at the day you had two, but liquefied them.
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>>164592762
Depends, 2d or 3d?
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>>164592762
the later.
>tfw your serious ;_;
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>>164592480
I went to daria cancer after being stuck in AA0 for some days. Climbed to AA1 in an hour with it and still going. idgaf
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>>164592995
Why do people always act like evolve points aren't a cost to anything?
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6k vials
so many 1 offs

I'm gonna have to make a sword list, won't I
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>>164592885
She had to chose randomly between 2 Vampy 3 Yurius and 1 Wolf
She picked the wolf and won the game, Gobu is a good girl
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>>164592889
>medusa will never turn you into stone for eternity to fulfill her desires
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>>164592809
tfw your whitewolf and elf child may save your ass from big ass dragons

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4ma0l8dVMk
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>>164592963
All of those classes have good leaders. The only one with shit leaders is Forest.

>>164592707
Given that Wolf and Dragoon are win-cons in themselves and that Eidolon is a lot more cost-effective, yeah. Do I want Nepthys to suck? No not really, it'd be nice to see her take off I guess. But don't get your hopes up because Shadow is the worst control archetype there is.
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Playing suicide blood for a bit

64355
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>tfw trying to get a good reroll but you don't even know what cards are good

Keep or reroll?
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>tfw 17 dmg burst absolutely destroys the elana cuck
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>>164593040
3 more to go!
90580 17/20
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LOSARIAAA
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>>164593401
OOOCEEEELOOOOOTEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>164593063
formerly it was
forest->sword->dragon->else
sword was the most consistent at getting 3-4 wins and dragon right after that, forest was the most consistent at getting an all-5 win run if you got a decent draft

now it's probably more rune->dragon->forest->sword->else
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>>164593124
cute
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>>164593329
really, really, really shit

odin, ancient elf, and seraph are good but the rest are all mediocre to garbage

reroll
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New leaders when?
New playing fields when?
New story chapters when?
Fenrir when?
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>>164593315
It's 38560 now
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>>164593441
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>>164592809
>That's smart he played an ambush follower to avoid the wol-
>Mfw
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>>164593267
forest has a good lead
it's selwyn
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why is dirt rune so fun
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>>164593267
>forest
>shit leaders
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>they don't have cudgel turn 4
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>>164592613
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>formerly mid sword
>new expansion
>sword now sucks
>not idea what to play
>try several decks
>more losses than wins
>can't climb
>afraid to lose all my points
>still at 1100 score

This is purgatory.

I'll miss the sleeves at this rate.
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>tfw I'm becoming cancer
At least I'll get to A0 soon, and Vampy will be there with me.
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>>164593378
2 more to go!
18/20 90580
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>3 darias
>none show up till last 10 cards
I'm getting upset at a video game.
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>>164593063
Sword>Shadow=Dragon>Forest>Blood>Haven>Rune
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Did storm haven get anything this xpac?
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>>164593329
Reroll. You should have at least 10 legendaries, dude.
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best thing about SV is you're able to be a cute girl with every faction. except dragon whose alt is a cute boy
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Does Shapeshifting Mage trigger on the turn that I go from 6 mana to 7 mana?
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How much does an average pack give in vials?
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>>164592958
what does this mean

>>164592889
also this
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RIP guards, they had to die for Otohime.
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>>164593267
>Shadow is the worst control archetype there is
>implying control forest or control dragon is a better idea

Hell, I'm even tempted to say control shadow has a leg up on control blood, considering I've already been playing pic related without Nep and absolutely disintegrating the few control blood players I manage to find.

Also, no, Wolf is not a win-con in and of himself, he pulls your actual wincon (Bolt or Rose) for you. Much in the same way that Nep pulls your actual wincon (Mordecai) for you. I'll give you that Dragoon is at least a wincon by himself, I'm just not entirely sold on him being better than Nep yet.
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>>164593730
>Runecraft
>Cute girl
??
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> play Daria Rune
> draw 30 card
>tfw only draw 1 Daria
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>>164593451
>forest->sword->dragon->else
Hmm lol? Forest is low tier in T2 and has always been.
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>>164593607
WHERE IS HER NOSE?!?!?
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>>164593758
471
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Quick somebody post the JO meme.

I need 3 wins with dragon and no deck.
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>>164593730
eris is not cute, she's a hag
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>>164593881
>I need 3 wins with dragons
>post the JO meme
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>>164592369
Remove elf
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>>164593820
>I've already been playing pic related without Nep and absolutely disintegrating the few control blood players I manage to find.
That's a ridiculously low bar but I set the bar myself so fair enough I guess.
>Also, no, Wolf is not a win-con in and of himself, he pulls your actual wincon (Bolt or Rose) for you. Much in the same way that Nep pulls your actual wincon (Mordecai) for you.
The difference is that Bolt or Rose will likely win the game for you outright. Mordecai is an awful card and the poorest excuse for a win-con there is. If people really wanted slow Shadow builds to thrive they would push for a card that can actually threaten the opponent more forcefully and phase Mordecai out of Shadow builds entirely because he's a fucking bad card.
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>>164593696
Thanx
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>>164594115
Same here!
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>>164593945
And definitely not the best haven leader
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>>164593820
stop reposting your shit deck, it doesn't even have balor
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How do I gitgud with Daria? I keep stalling when I get her and I end up losing

Also this card have any use?
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>>164593881
3x pendant
3x demonic strike
3x angelic snipe
3x angelic barrage
3x breath of the salamander
3x dragon oracle
3x dragon wings
3x blazing breath
3x dragon emissary
3x fervor
Just load up on removal
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>>164594254
it's 7 mana and it doesn't contribute to burning your opponent's face off or clearing his board.
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>>164594254
if you have a good hand go face

if you have an eh hand trade until daria
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>>164593192
>Gobu is a good girl
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>>164594445
>5/7 Rush
>doesnt contribute to clearing board
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>Winrate yesterday with Bats
>80-90%
>winrate today
>barely 50%
Feels bad
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>>164594254
If you can't get Daria then spellboost Ogler and Blade mage, use Levi + piercing Rune for 5 damage each. You can peel off 12 hp just with this combo.

But if you can't eventually draw Daria then you lose, it is called Daria Rune for a reason
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>>164594508
Is Luna of legal drinking age?
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>>164594254
Shit your hand, play daria and reload, repeat. The hard part is drawing Levi with piercing bolt and doing the fair and balanced combo. Once you get that down it is onlya matter of time before you get to masters.
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Anyone got a Earthrite decklist?
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>>164594508
>Winrate yesterday with shitty meme decks
>10%
>winrate today
>0%
Feels bad
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>your turn
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>>164593607
Forest has best leader
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Who else /never using an emblem that would give opponent actual info about your deck/ here ?
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Can bahamut hit face if I have ambushed followers?
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>>164593607
forest a better than vania
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>>164594224
How does Balor fit in a Shadow deck?
I fail to see why I'd run it over Foul Tempest.
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>>164594778
>well of destiny
He was never going to win anyway.
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>>164594478
Gobu > Feena in cuteness
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>>164593804
>not using cyclone on the evolved guard
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>>164594778
>mamá consigue la cámara
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>>164594113
>hating on an unkillable 5/5 that you can clone

I mean, you'd almost have a point if Dirtrune was a thing spamming Calamitous Curse everywhere, but that's not happening so it doesn't matter. If they Odin him that means the rest of your board lived, which is enough of a tempo swing to close the game out. If they don't Odin him, then you get to start cloning him on turn 9 and once that happens the game might as well be over. 99% of the time your opponent won't recover from multiple Mordecais, especially when by that point they're running out of cards in hand and you aren't. Sure, burn+storm could try to kill you, but that's why Khawy exists, to keep you out of burn range and stop storm from being an effective answer.

>>164594224
>running Balor over Khawy

Don't tell me you're one of those anons who believes you should have more than 4 targets for Nep? Or do you believe all of the 4-drops should be cut for Balor so you can get an effect you already have in Foul Tempest, but lose out on midgame Lich spam and Urd combos?
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>>164594778
>wall of destiny
Poor guy don't have anything to play
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>>164594943
>use white wolf emblem
>I'm not actually running bolt forest
>mfw
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I did it again! Thank you Satan and Lucifer for carrying me.
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Send help
How to win at take two?
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>>164595209
Go second
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>>164595209
Git gud___________________
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There's any fucking point in going first?
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>>164593804
But why? You could have suicide one guard and play Tsubaki for the same effect and having a strong card on the field for next turn
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Does nep nep work now?
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>>164595092
urd is slow garbage. ruining your deck because your so autistic you think you need mordecai every single time is garbage. your deck list will be trash
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>>164595171
At this point I am convinced that playing Haven rigs your opponent to bricking.
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what 4 legos should I make?
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>>164595092
>Don't tell me you're one of those anons who believes you should have more than 4 targets for Nep?
...yes?
not even going to explain myself, as far as i'm concerned it's on all the nepcucks to explain why they're completely contorting their curve to make one card less RNG-based
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>>164595367
that's a nice sign.
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>>164595209
Don't be a fag like these >>164595234
Chose the cards from the chart and do your best
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How dumb would it be to run both satan and bahamut in the same deck?
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>>164595347
Anon...
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>>164593541
>>164593441
>>164593401
FAVAROOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>164595367
That cool sign makes me think there's a lost city or buried treasure in that cave, it's counter productive.

>TURN BACK THERE'S NOTHING HERE FOR YOU
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how to counter khawy?
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Earth memes best memes
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Just dusted all of my Earth Rite, Control Blood and Shadow leggos except Cerb as well as my one copy of Shaq.

It's clear that Gobbu/Roach is going to be the premier deck and I simply need to have it.
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>>164595537
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Where are the netdecks

I need netdecks
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>>164595546
odin
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>>164595347
>you could have suicide one guard into Forte
>Forte
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>>164595543
Hang on, I'll go fetch the Darwin Award
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>>164595092
>Don't tell me you're one of those anons who believes you should have more than 4 targets for Nep?
I mean why not? I'm not going to ruin my curve for a turn 8 play that I may not even be able to pull off. I also don't care about duping Mordecai because I honestly don't think that Urd is all that good in Shadow. She's too slow and Urd gets the most of her mileage out of burst combos with Storm followers. Haven makes more effective use of Urd than Shadow ever will.
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>>164595585
>tfw I have had that deck since day 1
I love it.
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Someone tell me what happens at the end of luna's story. I kept getting now loading so I couldn't see it.
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>>164595347
Suicide into what? You know how Forte works.

>>164595054
Yeah, I realized it afterwards. Still worked out in the end though.
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>>164595424
Because that card is a pile of shit if you dont draw Mord and Khawy.

Without Khawy its like youre playing a Mord, you just die the turn after you drop it. Without Mord you have no real threat on the board after dropping it.

The version with Ghostly/Khawy/Mord is the best version ive seen. This destroys a follower and heals you while leaving a Mord and Nep with Ward on the board. Shadow has pretty acceptable removal in the 2-5 slot now, so I dont really mind being light on followers there.
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>>164594489
your 7pp drop should be Matriarch
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>>164595670

Well I've always been saving up for a forest deck but just never got the cards.

Today I just said fuck it and dusted everything but the cards I couldn't bear to ever get rid of.
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>>164595537
>tfw we get the continuation of those homos' adventure instead of manaria friends
How do fujoshits keep getting away with it?
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>>164595661
I didn't say I'd go in the cave, I said the sign makes people more likely to want to.

It's the forbidden fruit, the element of mystery that lures people in.
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>>164595167
>Use Elana sleeves
>I'm playing storm Haven
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>drop nep
>draw 3 morde
>win the game
Nice game shadowbabys
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>>164595209
generally speaking the more removal spells you have - with every evolve, every rush follower, and every storm follower counting as removal - the better off you are. gives you more flexibility to put your opponent in bad situations and recover from being put in bad situations. this is why going second is OP because you start with an edge in that battle, but going first is by no means a death sentence if you drafted or drew better
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>>164595792
we don't though?

the new bahamut anime was scrapped, they turned it into a 10 min OVA they released on youtube
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one day I'll get good
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>>164595760
>playing into it that fucking much
Your opponent wasn't the sharpest tool in the shed
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Is out
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>>164595856
how did you get 3 mordecai with different costs in your deck
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>>164593852
What are you smoking?
If you know what you're doing forest can consistently get 4-5 wins
About half my 5-0s were with forest, the other half split between sword and dragon
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>>164595856
whoa you almost read nep's text correctly anon, great job
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>>164595408
>>164595424
>>164595665
>these opinions

I'm not going to type the entire paragraph on why you need precisely the right targets from Nep if you can't already figure that out on your own. It's fine though, when Gameai or one of the other Japanese netdecking sites tells you to only run 4 different costs of followers you'll do it anyway, because clearly you're not very good at deckbuilding.
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Which one?
8+ are bahamut and fangblade, feel like leonidas will be too much
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>>164595815
>I said the sign makes people more likely to want to

Fuck no, it makes any sane person want to get as far away as possible. It's even designed to do so if you don't speak English.
Which is why anyone who'd actually die in there after having seen the sign is a clear Darwin Award winner.
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>>164595760
Why not both. They don't have the same role.
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Some of these animated cards look real dank.
What are some of your favorite?
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>>164595856
>drop seraph
>literally win the game

um, shadowbabs?
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>>164596184
Elemental Lance looks pretty nice.
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>>164596130
But you can't stop white people doing dumb shit
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>>164596197
>Odin
You move
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>>164596129
right and play control-y
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>>164595732
I always thought of using Ghostly myself because of the ward it gives to nep.

I guess it's just another round of experimenting.
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>>164596254
I drop another Seraph and my 14/14 unicorn dancer hits you in the face
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>>164595092
you can't even generate enough shadows for foul tempest and death's breath with your shit deck before getting swarmed by dariacucks and aggroblood
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>>164596184
Charon.
Also just about any of the ones with fire look good.
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>>164596184
I vialed both of them cause I don't play Haven
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>Aggro Forest T7 10+ damage from hand because le balanced bug of storms can now be tutored
>Aggro Rune turn 4 and 5 boards that make the previous early game "impossible boards" (fat Ancient Elf, Aria into Dogma) look like a fucking joke and let 5 face damage of Levi into Rune
>Aggro Blood, only viable deck for the class once again
>Aggro Shadow, all followers are fucking sticky garbage and can't be removed efficiently
>HEAR
>The best heal class can't keep up with all this aggro and are playing their own aggro
We aggroverse now. Turn 8 games were too long for our wagecuck ADHD commuters, we're now balancing the game around turn 7 ;)))

Look forward to the next expansion where the game ends on turn 5.
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>>164596184
We've been over this before.
Any other answer is objectively wrong.
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>>164596107
I mean they can do what they want. I will probably never build a deck around Nepthys because I hate Shadow as a control archetype. Haven is much more effective and enjoyable at control than Shadow ever will be because it's more efficient and effective at that style of play. Shadow works most effectively as an aggressive class and statistics have reflected that.
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>>164596107
>when Gameai or one of the other Japanese netdecking sites tells you to only run 4 different costs of followers you'll do it anyway, because clearly you're not very good at deckbuilding.
I'd say the same back to you, except you're probably stupid enough to keep running exactly 4 different costs of followers after more competent people than you realize it's statistically not worth it
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>>164596184
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>>164596184
Arch Priestess Laelia. Don't have a webm but it makes me want to build a deck around her
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>>164596372
I want everyone in this thread to tell me how you pronounce "Charon"
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>>164595985
the infamous deck ramp
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>>164596329
Sorry but i have a frontguard general.
And i droped Alberto doing 10 damage face.

Nice game shadowbbs
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>>164596469
Χάρων
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>>164596395
That one's real cool.
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>>164596372
tfw i have this
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>>164596376
A shame you can't see shit ingame because of the silence visual effect.
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>>164596469
/ˈkɛərɒn/ or /ˈkɛərən/; Greek Χάρων
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>>164596469
Χάρων
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>>164596184
Objective best are Rain Devil and Enstatued Seraph.
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>after double levi evolve + 3 piercing runes

Justice never felt so good
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Would anyone be kind enough to post the most optimized version of Gobbu/Roach?
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Why does shadow struggle so much against Runecraft?
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>>164596561
I have three.
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>>164596469
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-_34eVMqf8
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>>164595856
>people still think nep is gonna be good
literally the worst wincon of every control deck in the game
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>>164596608
You mean the full blown roach deck or the new tempo list?
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>>164596608
>gobbu roach
might as well play JO dragon if you want to derank
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>>164596329
I get on my motorcycle and syncro summon exodia
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>>164596469
http://vocaroo.com/i/s0aSF4IpszwN
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>>164596608

Pretty please with Gobu on top?
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>>164596612
No storm other than ghosts, some dont use the mummy
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>>164595562

show dick plz
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>>164596184
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>>164592707
Eidolon's amazing and Wolf is a much stronger combo than nep
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>>164596597
>>164596548
that's pronounced as "Haron" in greek though, why add the "C" in front
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>>164596107
good luck surviving against aggro
good luck getting shadows for your spells
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>>164596603
And then he plays Daria which refreshes his board
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>>164596469
char on
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>>164596469

Caronte
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>>164596671

The one that uses Feena/Gobbu to tutor roach.
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>>164596737
>Haron
How does it feel to be retarded?
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>>164596737
Ch is h in some languages
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>>164596469
Karen
>>
33720

Playing suicide blood
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>>164596664
But dude she can give you a Mordecai AND a dingdong on turn 8! How cool is that?

Everyone, post your nepnep deck lists xD
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>>164596736
>5 PP Do nothing is amazing in aggroverse
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>play Unranked for dailies
>nothing but Lunacraft
Why?
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>>164596793
Both these decks to that, anon.
Difference is that tempo also run other 2pp stuff, and I believe roach doesn't.
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>>164596469
カローン
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>>164596896

Whichever one is better then, please.
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>>164596741
Implying it would matter

>kreygasm
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>play Elana
>good win rate against aggro ladder, but games take forever and occasionally run up against a Ramp Dragon or combo deck who shits on me if I brick on Elana

>play Bats
>still counter the other aggro decks because Yurius is fucking ridiculous, Veight also helps
>games are twice fast now so I climb more and get less upset at the random losses

Vampy best girl. Aggro deck that counters aggro decks shouldn't be a thing, but hey, fuck it.
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>>164596887
People are so fucking excited for Top Nep that they're doing some warmup
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>>164596469
like that one lyric from the 1st dragon ball z opening
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>>164596469
Chicken Fajita.
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>>164597008
Please stop posting this sexualized toddler

It's unchristian
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>implying you will not play nepnep tonight
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>>164596972
Show list even if is unorthodox i want to try
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>>164596972
Stop.
I don't wanna play JO.
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>>164596436
Fair enough, no reason to build a deck you don't enjoy. I'm not sure if Shadow is significantly better at aggro than control, but that's really a matter of opinion until the data comes out post-Nep and it's proven one way or the other.

>>164596441
>statistically not worth it
>implying it's not worth it to get Mordecai 100% of the time

Again, you're welcome to your opinion, but once you actually play the deck you're gonna realize you're very very wrong.

>>164596739
Thanks, I already do that now. 6 Shadows on turn 6 is perfectly doable with my list, don't know why you'd think otherwise.
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>>164597065
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>tfw already made a anti-nep deck to win master in one jump
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>>164597008
Only problem with bats is it has a bad matchup against Daria, and retards are still pushing that deck.

Bats will be t0 when Haven players finally crush their soul with enough Themis, though.
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Anyone has a good control blood list which he has success with ? I'm tired of the meta and just want to have fun, hesitating to buy the blood premade deck to get a good head start on it
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>>164597094
The more people who play JO together, the more powerful we will become.
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>>164596972
>tfw realized the anne and whatever card is literally just a more reliable flame and glass

wtf powercreep
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>Enemy dragon drops Phoenix roost
>Assume he's gonna bahamut next turn
>Turns out he doesn't have bahamut
>I win next turn
????
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>>164596943
Been using this at masters. You can Swap x1 Feena and/or Princess Mage around for one or two DoDs if you think it's necessary.
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>>164597181
That's easy, you just play Roach and kill them on turn 7 from your hand.
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This is your witch tonight.
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>>164597276

Thanks, I assume this is more the tempo version?
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>>164597065
>toddler

Vampy is on the borderline of even being considered loli. Plus she's a vampire so that means she's probably older than your grandmother.
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Is control runecraft a thing?
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>>164597192
I bought the Blood structure deck twice

control's pretty fucking bad, just play the aggro version of it
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>>164596184
Evolved Dwarf Alchemist

>>164596881
More like
>5 PP summon a Barong/Guardian Fox, summon a rabbit, destroy an enemy follower, draw 2 cards, summon a Holywing Dragon, etc
It's actually pretty similar to Nepthys in all honesty, only cards like Tribunal of Good and Evil are better than shit like Mordecai and have actual impact.

>>164597129
>but that's really a matter of opinion until the data comes out post-Nep and it's proven one way or the other.
True, I do think it should be given a chance, but I expect it to fail. If it works out then I'll be pleasantly surprised. No expectations, no disappointments.
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>>164597359
No, unless you consider DShift control.

Rune has some of the worst early removal in the game which is the only reason DShift isn't the best deck in the game.
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>>164597359
It's called dshift.
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>>164596664
>literally the worst wincon of every control deck
looking at nephthys as a wincon is as stupid and misguided as looking at bahamut as a wincon was
hurr durr it just dies to removal, that's not the fucking point when its fanfare is a themis... and whatever nephthys lacks in wincon power is made up for when you pull lurching, pull khawy, maybe even pull balor and instantly 3-for-1 your opponent
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>>164597276
>those deck names

I remember you!

Have you ditched Sword for good now?
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>>164597332
Yeah, the idea is to use your 1/1 weenies to do chip damage and then roach combo at turn 7 or so.
You can also win by Cynthia value.
If you feel like Blood is ruining your day give Sword to Woodlands a try, it puts some good value versus Yurius.
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>>164596608
This deck is scary to play against. I'm usually laid back when facing other decks, but damn Forest is taxing.
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>>164597343
>she's (mythical creature) so she's le 2000 years old meme
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I think I'll never again see that draw in my life again. I don't think there's a more cancerous elana combo than my first 5 rounds.

Sorry Elfbro, it's for the dailies.
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>>164597209
Oh, do Anne and Grea deal 14 face damage per turn ? Didn't think so.
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>>164597192
>tfw keep changing things in my control deck and its still inconsistent as fuck
best advice; just give up

hopefully next expansion gives control blood what it needs but for now it is really fucking shit
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>>164597187
but aren't bats supposed to be the anti daria due to rushing them down before they can daria?
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Anybody else excited to get free wins off of nep shitters?
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>>164597602
They do with JO Crystal :^)
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>>164597574
Go back to /v/. Whether you're serious or shitposting I really don't care, just get out.
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>>164597382
>>164597656
Fug, well thanks anyway, i'll keep playing braindead shit i guess
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>>164597656
>next expansion
>being anything but more aggro garbage
lmao
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>>164597602
Anne and Grea are JO friends too
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>>164596184
That has got to be the same artist that made the Hieratic Dragons of YGO.
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>>164597192
This archetype is hard to play and not for the faint of heart, but it does decently against the popular decks right now.
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>>164597680
>play no followers all game
>cute turn 8 play
>pop seraph on them turn 9
I really don't know what they're expecting
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>>164597505
Nah, Forest has always been my second go to class. I'm also trying a lot of other classes since I finally used my rupies. Shadow is fun.
As for Sword, I'm trying to fix my control deck but I'm not playing mid-range, bats have decreased in numbers a bit and Daria is still everywhere, so there's no reason to play it as it is I think.
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>>164597343
I want to fuck this vampire
>>
>gain 1k points and got to AA1 with JO crystal last night
>get tired miss lethal a few games lose
>time to sleep and stop being a shitter
>wake up time to JO
>lose 1k points
FUCK
>>
I managed to climb up to A0 with Face Dragon and now I can't get any further since Bahamut dropped. Is Discard the only way to go now?
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>>164593019
What is this from? Is it a manga or just an h doujin?
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>>164597831
Better get good at poker then.
>>
I need a consistent deck to grind from AA0 to masters
I'm sick of going near 50/50 with seraph, purgatory, bats, face, jo, and disco dragon.
What should I build?
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>install the game
>they said that don't have RNG
>the first card from packs have "random" write on it
Explain that shadowbabbys
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had a 20 minute match before this versus control sword
but earth meme is supreme
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>>164597918
what is this?
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>>164597918
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>>164598029
bost bick plz
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>>164596184
This and Skeleton Viper are the most metal card art known to man
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Double legos again, last time it was Queen Vampire and Satan. Thanks rng.
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>>164597918
Whatever it takes
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>>164597820
nobody tell them that this card exists, i want it to be a surprise
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>>164597980
>sick of jo
You can always play with control blood or control sword
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>>164598029
>two decks with no win conditions against each other lasts 20 minutes

seems about right.
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>>164598020
Fewer cards have RNG in this game than Hearthstone, and they typically have convenient limiters to help you play with/around them for desired results: random damage never goes face, and random discards choose from your lowest-cost cards, so they're much more controllable than Hearthstone where the deviance is larger. You never have to deal with Flamewaker going all face and not clearing the enemy board around here.
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>>164598020
translation error, it is actually "deal 1 damage to a target with 1 point of defense"
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>>164598060
https://sukebei.nyaa.se/?page=view&tid=2206379
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>>164597980
if you can't climb with any of those decks it's not the meta it's you
you need to find a deck whose matchups and card-for-card interactions/probabilities you're willing to learn like the back of your pimp's hand to get the increased winrate that expertise brings, and that means finding a deck that you thoroughly enjoy
if you don't have such a deck in mind already, maybe it would be good to meme around with varied decks for a bit until you find the absolute core of who you are as a player and what playstyle you like
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when I wake up tomorrow I'll be able to play with Nep!
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>>164596184
Necropolis Queen looks great.
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>>164598224
Maintenance might be over by then, but that's when the maintenance begins
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>>164597192
Don't let anyone tell you CBlood is bad, it's ridiculously good against Bats and Daria, and that's like 90% of the ladder, so that's all that matters.

Anon is going to bully me for not using Yurius, but I really like Vania's evolve. You need to be able to shift into being aggressive against other control decks because they will absolutely destroy you. Blood has no wincon outside of the measly 11 damage combo.
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>>164598081
TO PREVAIL
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>>164596184
i want to see animated alexander
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>>164598205
The way Vyrn makes fun of you if you pick Cog is the best.
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>tfw ladder anxiety
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>>164598289
I'm personally not a believer in Medusa's Gaze despite your having the full bat package, if you're going to bother cramming hard removal into CBlood I feel like one of the 5PP neutrals is a better choice since you don't always have bodies on the board.
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>Tfw you're more excited for Manifestation of Faith than you are Nephshit
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>>164598289
3 righteous 0 pantyraider?
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Opening Standard packs is an exercise in feelbad.
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>>164598502
t. D0
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>>164598415
>tfw lost it after JO
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80930
need a concede
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>>164596469
share on
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>>164598289
i like using bloody flowerbeds to whittle them down, makes it way easier to kill those who refuse to hit me in the face.

also post cblood lists.
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>>164598067
>>164598029
i should name it - the grinding
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>>164598553
No Neph is just that shitty.
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>>164596184
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>tfw your waifu is trying to tell that se want you to play with her
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Do I craft 2 ancient, 1 roach, 2 homecoming and 1 bolt to meme with this http://game-ai.jp/19398/
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>>164598676
i sure hope he doesn't have wards
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>>164596661
But thats wrong
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>>164598020
No random effect ever goes face in SV. Meaning if opponent only has something with one health on board, this is a surefire removal, meanwhile in the same spot in HS with Flame or Knife Juggler you'd get a 50/50.
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I have complete Forest, Shadow and Blood decks. And 13k vials.

Is Daria really worth crafting?
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>>164594943
>using garuda as my leader
>running elana seraph

THROW AWAY THE KEY
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>>164598502
But it's a shit card, for 7 PP you're getting nothing that affects the board immediately and clogs up 3 of your 5 spots for 3 turns.

Hell, I started cutting some Prism Priestesses from non-Seraph decks because you don't really want stuff like Aria on turn 5+, it's only really good on curve, unless you're a Garuda deck and have said bird in hand.
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33720

Suicide blood
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>fell for the JO meme because i was confused and sleep deprived
>try it out
>fun as fuck even if its super slow

I think this deck has some merit to it if it gets some more support in the next expac

How would you guys refine this?

I disenchanted my entire shadow collection to make it
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>>164598810
i used to think she was broken because i got daria'd on turn 4. then i played against like 5 darias in a row that bricked so hard i killed them with 8 mana revelations.
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Remember /svg/. Only shitters pack barrage.

t. Vampy
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>>164598415
I know how you feel

Nothing bad happens until it matters.
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>>164594943
>Vampy leader
>Vampy emblem
>Vampy sleeves
>Playing Neutralcraft
They never see it coming.
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>Seraph
>Balanced
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>Been wanting to play Silver Bolt Wolf since the wolf was revealed
>Recently unpacked a tia, two ancients, and a silver bolt
Should I do it? How badly will lolibats & ungarune destroy me?
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>>164598864
You disenchanted all your shadow cards to craft 3 salamanders?
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>>164596129
Well that was easy
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>>164598732
Nope i've been lucky
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Neph will bring Shadow to T2 imo. It'll bring a power play to a deck that can annoy you in early/mid but can't do shit in the late to close out the game.

I think Neph is underrated. It won't be anything amazing, won't beat the top decks but I think it'll be played, even after the initial hype.
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>>164598928
You'd mull the same for both decks, though.
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>>164598924
But losing a trial game has way less consequence than losing a normal ranked for 100 points.
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>>164598923
As a sword player i would never tech my deck need consistence
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>>164598924
You don't yet know true suffering.
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I need a swordcraft deck reeeee
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2 tsubaki 1 olivia or vice versa?
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Looking for a budget Blood deck, something good for beginners.
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>>164598952
I had to reroll cause new PC and i had literally no vials

So i disencahnted it all just to make pendent/slamander/CoC/extra DoD/ emmisary/ a fuck load of other shit that i didnt roll
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Why do we have to have random damage or kill a random minion on the board in general?
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>>164599154
Need for what?

I suggest banner.
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>>164598951
i'm convinced that with some refinement wolf bolt can be great, but it's in the same place PTP was - against faster decks your goal is to buy tempo until you can roach finish, with the wolf bolt line mostly serving as a control-killer
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>>164598923
*Only winners
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>New expansion has made the game even more aggro cancer
Fantastic. I love the levi + piercing rune combos, I also love the turn 2 yurius into turn 3 veight. I love 0 cost gobbus fetching you roaches.

Hopefully the devs can take it a step further and have the average game finish at turn 5 next expansion, ideally turn 4.
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>>164599016
Let's try this again.
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>>164594478
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>>164597081
Pretty unrefined at the moment and I only made it as I wanted to find a way of getting the Astaroth combo off.

Would probably run a second Grea over Faf if I had 2 copies. The cavaliers are questionable too.
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UNGA
He dropped a Daria turn 5 but I dropped Veteran Alchemist on turn 4 and he conceded.
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>>164598908

That's the problem. It seems amazing on paper but my elf eats them alive most of the time.

But I guess a not horrible Rune deck will be useful for dailies.
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>planning to play more 6 hours of JO dragon

How JOing with you guys is so good?
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>>164599302
>having problems versus agro with control deck
bruh...
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>>164598660
>>164599302
BabyRage MATCHES DON'T LAST 1 HOUR BabyRage
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>>164598420
Medusa's Gaze is fairly simple to proc in practice due to blood wolves, bats, and just general evolves. Evolving Veight into Medusa's Gaze also gives you a bat.

>>164598526
I tried both 3xraider and 2xraider 2xdevil for a while, and found that even without vengeance, the 4/7 evolve on devil is still decent. Devil is also still a threat even without evolves if the game gets late, something that raider can't be.

>>164598604
I like the idea of flowerbed for slower games, but I imagine it's dangerous against aggro who doesn't respect you at all (or see flowerbed and assume you're aggro, even if you aren't). It seems like your deck is very reliant on drawing raider.
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>>164599302
>"SHADOWVERSE IS BETTER THAN HEARTHSTONE GUYZ XD"
>"AGGRO DOESN'T DOMINATE THE LADDER"
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>>164599302
>I also love the turn 2 yurius into turn 3 veight.
just ram unica into veight and blitz lancer the yurius lol
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>>164599302
Anon
Hearthstone is even worse
Its either play pirates or a fuckton o heals or GTFO
This meta just started and its already better
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>>164599384
Could you post a list?
I wanna have fun too.
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>>164599510
>>164599384

For me as well please
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>>164599372
welp
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>>164599336

Into the folder it goes.
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>tfw you will never be Daria and seduce Albert to make ubermensch children with him
Why live?
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>>164598837
I just want it for Eidolon since I can throw out shit like Guardian Fox and Holywings out. The problem is that the pool is muddled with Sacred Pleas and Rabbits, and honestly Soul Collector+Eidolon puts in a lot of work anyway.

>>164599435
Nepthys is shit, even if Eidolon is shit he's shit in a more fun and effective class.
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>>164599302
Control Blood and control Haven decks have a favorable match-up against Aggro.
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>>164599438
with succubus + erinyes the damage they do to my face is also damage they do to their own face + board which makes the health total game about equal. what it IS reliant on is drawing revelation if they flood the board really hard and you brick followers to evolve. if you lose a game by flowerbed bleeding you were going to lose it anyway.
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>>164597515

Thanks. It's been working pretty well so far even with my limited forest experience.

Haven't won a game off Roach combo yet (AA1) but I have won all my games so far.
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>>164599384
>>164599510
>>164599578
We should put the list in the OP already, its posted on every thread.
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>>164597668
They both counter each other
Bats vs Daria or Bats vs Bats it's always 50/50
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Now that sword is dead, what are swordbros playing?
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so what deck are you guys planning to play to counter the nepcucks after the patch?
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>>164599212
2 tsubaki

Olivia is more comparable to bahamut
People seem to favor 2 bahamuts 1 olivia but i run 2 olivias 1 bahamut because it's what i have.
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>>164598210
It's the RNG man. I'm not bad at the game at all. I'm just not used to losing more than 30% of the time at anything and it's fucking frustrating.
Like, I'd almost rather play something fun that loses 50% of the time than deal with this stupid shit grind.
It's not even a fun game to play casually, and playing this shit competitively is the most frustrating shit in the world.
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>>164599858
Nep memes won'tbe popular
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>>164599858
Elana Seraph :^)
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>>164599798
>Sword
>Dead
Midrange/Control Hybrid
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>>164599798
>wahhhh we cant unga and go face anymore sword is dead guise
kys banner trash
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>>164599858
the same deck i was playing before to keep shadowfags in check
hybrid elana:^)
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>>164599510
>>164599578
I have the Mage(classic) Code: n89m
And there is the phoenix one code:n89u
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>>164595502
Just used the chart in the OP, and I only got 3 wins. But I already tend to get 2-3 wins. I want to know what it takes to make take two well worth my time.
>>164595893
If only it were as easy as just drafting removal.
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Piercing Rune should draw a card.
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>>164599798
Control sword, I'm having a good time
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>>164599858
Unless they run Odins then I'll probably just be able to smash them with Eidolon Seraph
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>>164599981
Is fangslayer a thing?

>>164599997
If only banner shit were the only affected. Midrange got hit too.
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Ayy
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>>164600156
Levi should also get +3/+3 on evolve. After all, you are wasting an evo on a 2PP follower.
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>>164594945
Yeah. You need to have legal attack targets if you want to stall it.
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I DONT WANT THIS
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15/20

63694
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>>164600231
The only card that gets +3/+3 on evolve deals 3 to your own leader, not to the enemy's leader!
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>>164599798
aggro blood until i get more legendaries to play control sword
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This deck is so good at dumping on Daria it's not even funny any more.
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>>164600262
so close to pantsu
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>>164594945
No.
>>164600242
Wrong. Don't spread misinformation.
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OMG this Goblin Mage Tempo deck is so broken, holy shit.
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>>164600158
>>164600158
Dick?
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>>164600185
I like him because SMOrc, but I can't argue that there would be better things to put in his slot mainly because he's pretty slow right now
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>>164600424
you do have legal target tho
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>>164595546
Ram something with 4 or less hp and 5 or more attack into him while your board is clear or banish him.
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>>164596381
Control Blood is viable, Seraph is viable, JO Dragon is viable
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>>164599798
Still sword.
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>>164593663
you're not becoming cancer
you barely played daria.
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>>164600404
dont fall for his lies. i already lost 500 rank points. give them back you FUCK
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>>164600262
Pls give
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>>164600548
I never played Daria, those are all PTP Dirt Rune.
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>>164600495
>Feena and gobu broke the meta
Who would've thought
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Someone please post shadow dick that can win against daria and/or bat. I just cant seem to win with either control or aggro so Im doing something wrong.
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>>164599583
>Erasmus
>Playing Daria
Erasmus should be reserved for playing based dirtcraft, that guy doesn't know what he's doing.
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>>164600632
see >>164593820
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>>164600424
Can you post your list for ambush sword?
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>>164594254
>can't play the easiest most auto-pilot deck in the game
download Hearthstone
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>tfw you make some aggro fag rage concede after you kill his board for the 9th time as JO dragon
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>>164600632
what does shadow even play these days? i haven't seen a shadow in a long time.
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>>164600537
Yeah, but only one. Bahamut's effect says two.

Fine, another example. This Japanese memer lost the game because his Bahamut couldn't attack the koga sisters.
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>>164600612
for what purpose, she is useless, she is never going to see any play in constructed because there will never be any runecraft deck that uses her
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I need more fuckin deck slots pls cygames
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Some game stats as Midrange swordcraft this expansion. (See picture for deck list)

>General Stats
129 Matches played
81 Wins - 48 Losses (62.79%)
Most faced class was Runecraft

>Vs. Runecraft in particular
42 matches played
25 Wins - 17 Losses (59.52%)
38 Of those were against Daria decks.

I don't understand why people say Swordcraft is dead. Been working great for me.
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>>164597343
>Borderline

I don't think so anon
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>>164600750
now this is a proper example, thanks m8
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>>164600643
Dirtrune is Isabelle's thing. Her board even has the golem on it.
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Did storm haven get anything good in this expansion?
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>>164600693
Something that is not nep oriented? I dont even want to play that card in the future.
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>>164600738
I keep queueing into shadow with mordecais and carrots whenever I play control blood.
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>>164600723
>Daria player gets the dream combo, gets his 3rd Daria of the match and vomits on the board yet again.
>Takes all of 5pp to barrage + dragon wings clear his ass with your charged crystals.
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>>164600262
Is the dragoncraft card better?
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>>164597602
Evolved Anne+Evolved Grea do 12 damage total not counting Anne's bombardment.
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>>164600830
Can't unga anymore
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>>164600830
>I don't understand why people say Swordcraft is dead.
for memes
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>>164600632
You can't win because they haven't bricked.
Shadow literally can't deal with Daria at the moment without them having bad draws, and bats is almost as bad unless you play aggro.
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>>164600696
I don't have a definitive one, I tried a lot of different things but all of them are shit. This meta is chock full of AoE and random destruction effects (thanks shadowcraft) so it just feels terrible to play. Runecraft is ironically the only class you will have a good time against.
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>h-heh i'll just banish them nothing personnel kid

Midrange shadow counters haven now you heard it hear first
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>>164600830
D rank?
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>>164599705
Glad to help.
>>164599798
>dead
You're one weak ass nigger.
Lately I've been playing a bit of everything while trying to figure out Sword lists. Roaching people with Gobbu is quite nice.
SHADOW IS FUN.
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>>164600830
>I don't understand why people say Swordcraft is dead. Been working great for me.
Same reason they said elf was dead: because they're shit players.
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>>164600830
What rank are you? Not implying you're a shitter, but I want to know if this deck will work in A3. I'm sick and tired of climbing with aggro bats.
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>>164600881
Reno
Damus
GIGANTIC TAGER
>Veteran Tamer
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H-HEAR!
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>>164600631

The gobu dream is real.
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BOLTMEME is alive!

Never expected that deck to be this good.
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>he still plays otohime
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>>164601163
Damus is shit.
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>>164600881
Luxwing Reno. Valhalla General.
Some of the generic haven cards like damus, veteran tamer, and ancient lion spirit are playable for moderate value, but those are the two that are face-oriented.
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>>164600262
GUUUUUUUUREA!
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How is this ramp list looking?

Not sure if I want to commit to a second Fafnir or drop him completely yet.
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>>164601256
Clearing still gives him tempo.
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Memes
I won
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>>164601235
only shitters say is a bad deck, even the japs aren't intelligent enought to play the superior deck.
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>>164601259
I'm really torn on whether replacing Sister Initiate with him was a good idea. His ability rarely comes into play since the enemy either trades with him right away or he gets sniped by removal even behind a ward
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>>164598676

>only three

you are like little baby
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>>164600819
I really like Anne!
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>>164600881
Reno is the only really good addition for it.
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>>164601009
I cant of feel that shadow will be underplayed and weak even this expansion and nep is not going to change it. It is only one card and very endgame. I guess you could win with that but I dont really think it will work as well as people imagine. Daria winning is a huge difference in cost of that card and the draw power of rune which shadow does not have.

Shadow literally cant win against rune it seems. And you have to draw and have a lot of removal against bats which is also most often lose because they slowly kill you.

I had luck against dragon and sword, forest though but I get only like 1 in 10 matches. Its either daria or bat that means you cant play shadow before you get to masters?
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>>164600594

I'm not here to tell people what to do.

They can draw their own conclusions.
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>>164601347
>turn 7 with nothing on the board
>haha now you've given me tempo
>i am bleeding making me the victor
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>>164600830
For the record I'm AA2
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>tfw when 10th reroll and still getting shit.
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>>164600881
Reno, Tamer, HEAR ME WARRIORS OF VALHALLA
I'm personally not a fan of Damus since he's a 3/2, he just gets traded into since you don't have early wards to combo him with and there's better plays to be made later on.
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>>164601360
It's easily my highest winrate deck against the current meta. Not as good as some other crafts but definitely T2.

Also it's a great feeling to knot bitches with your white wolf of pure rape. I'm looking at you fucking Daria and Havenhag.
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>want to play runecraft
>misclick deck and pick the default one you get when you start her campaing
>against all odds still win anyway with a Fighter card.
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>>164601528
Rerolls only take 5 minutes anon
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>>164600881

Reno is amazing.

All the other new Haven cards are pretty meh for storm.
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>He went face with Forte
What the fuck did he think was gonna happen?
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>>164601341
>one (1, uno, um, oдин, 一つ, 壹) Draconic Fervor
How the fuck do you make a ramp list, and then fill it with garbage so that you brick? Do you enjoy posting Rowen memes or what?
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>>164601397
Morde is the only good dub in this game
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>>164601453
Gimme the anime already, cygames so we can get doujins of anne being fucked by greas tail
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>>164600881
I like Valhallan General. He is like a Gabriel that is tailored to get your tigers in action faster or +3 face and fuck up your opponent's trading game plan.
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>>164596184
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>>164601347
Ramp Dragon is one of the strongest crafts at 10pp unless you're elf lining up roaches or something, Alberto won't save him if the game lingers on.
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why arent the score reward emblems sorted together? it's messing with me
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>>164599798
A little miracle from a Jap streamer, grinding my way through AA with it, praying every game that my opponent has no fucking reach to hit me with. Goddamn I hate Piercing Rune and Levi. Then there's people running Demonic Strikes.
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>>164601641
I just follow a master jap list that he posted on twitter and made a couple changes

He also runs one Fervor.
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Free packs?
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>>164600928
Grea is great with the Dragonclaw Pendants. And is only made better from Dragoncraft's ability to ramp.

Anne in Runecraft doesn't really have any such support.
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>>164601869
I agree. What I'm saying is that clearing Otohime in a 1-1 trade while doing nothing else will net you nothing on average because Alwidas and Albert are a thing.
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>>164601347
>If you kill your enemies, they win
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>>164601490
They win, if you kill them.
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why is rowan so very unlikable?
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>>164600928
Anne's Grea is a 4/4 double attacker with rush, Grea's Anne is a 4/4 mini Flamglass with rush.
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>>164601896
Post dick.
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>>164601648
He's awful, what are you smoking? The only good dubs are the ones with voice changer like Fafnir and Satan.
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>>164601650
Settle down there, lad
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do we get free packs for Nep nep wait
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>>164602150
the duck and carrot are amazing in english
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>beating blood bats with Satan and making them rage quit

JO crystal makes it possible!
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>>164600547
control?
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>>164602062
everyone seems to hate isabelle too for some reason
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>>164602098
Grea's statblock hurts her so much, at least she would be useable with Storm
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What really makes this game more then generous hearthstone? How are we different from them? I don't believe anyone here enjoys playing against daria, just like people don't enjoy playing against shaman, nor do people enjoy against Elana, just as people dislike boring reno decks, and aggro will always be the same, no matter where you go. It's just the same tactics that don't change, and sure we have less rng, and I do love that, but so what? We both have the same "X goes 2nd so they win/lose" shit, and sure Shadowverse has waifus that nobody really gives a fuck about besides like 4 or 5 of them, so what makes this different?
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>>164602150
>his fists dont howl with divine might
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>maybe if i add garuda my ancient outdated netdeck will work again

Name a deck more fun than Carrot Shadow
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>>164600738
I wish I was in your world, every time I see Khawy I get a aneurysm, then the fucking Morde mass production line starts, goddamn I'm sick of these people in AA.
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Get memed kid. Finally my shitty Mythril Golem is useful.
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>>164602297
but isabelle has great... assets. probably just mad about getting dshifted 3 times in a row.
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>>164602337
nigga what the fuck
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>>164601470

In my personal experience, the blood matchup isn't that bad for slower lists.

Tempests and Death's Breaths go a long way towards keeping you stable versus aggro, once they peter out and the big boys like Khawy start dropping the game should be over. The control blood matchup is nastier, since you have to be wary of Bloody Mary damage circumventing your wards.

Runecraft is pretty brutal, though. If you get a perfect curve and can manage 6 shadows by turn 6 for DB, you have a reasonable chance to survive against Daria. Piercing Rune + Crimson is still a lot of damage that'll ignore your wards, though. D-Shift isn't too much of a problem unless they curve out perfectly, since shadow reserves the right in any of its variations to go balls-to-the-wall aggressive if they need to. Dirtrune is iffy, if you have Sexton to protect your Last Words from Calamitous or a Shadow Reaper beefy enough to ignore it, you can out-grind them.

All in all, Shadow is fun right now.
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>>164602310
I don't really think you understand what "generous" means in this context
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Does anyone else have problem with priest of the cudgel? I haven't been able to craft him or draft him in my deck
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>>164602062
I like rowan.
His INCREDIBLE and ROAR emotes are the best in the game.
"Don't let it get to you" is also good.
His greeting is trash sadly.
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>>164601608
Yeah and that's 50 minutes of doing this shit and who knows how many more.
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>10 game lose streak with sword with 3 different types of decks
>switch to braindead netdeck aggro blood
>15 game winstreak

Sword is fucking garbage this expansion.
Control can deal with braindead blood and rune
aggro but you will brick turns 1-3 most of the time
and lose instantly to Levi/Roach/Yurias spam.
Aurelia can't save you against shadow anymore
with lurching corpse and thighassassin.
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>>164602179
Probably
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>>164602310
japs are not jews, Ben Brode is not the head of the game, i unironically like the gameplay more, i played hearthstone for 8000 hours and i can say that the game is mind numbing bad.
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So did Chorus of Prayer work before or was it in maintenance since the start?
I never tried to play that card and I'm not sure if I've ever seen it played.
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>>164602438
Play through the story mode you dumbo.
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Playing Control Blood feels so fucking good now, no matchup feels unwinnable now that Dshift is dead. This expansion is blessed
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>>164602062
he's boring, his lines are boring, his story is boring. he's BORING
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levi into piercing rune into piercing rune XDD haha outskilled
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>>164602438
story card mate. Play all of the stories, several class staple cards in them along with the freebies.
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>>164602452
Get t2ed senpai
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>>164602310
i like that in shadowverse by turn 10 one of the players will be dead because there are actual win conditions here. in HS the only win con is going face or killing your opponent in fatigue 30 minutes later.
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>>164602451
If you don't want to do it don't do it anon, almost any reroll will get you a Tier 1 deck in Aggro blood, what are you trying to reroll for and how many packs do you get now on a fresh account?
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>>164602297

We don't hate Isabelle we just all know there was no reason for her to exist when she's basically an inferior version of Magisa.
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>>164602410
post deck pls I am surely doing it wrong
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>>164602492
It worked before, but it was/is shit and nobody used it.
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>>164602310
>Generous
It is, you get more free shit.
>Gameplay
You play against a shaman who goes T1 Spirit claws - T2 hero power - spell power 100 games in a row and you would rather start pulling your teeth and than to play another game, at least I know I did.
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>>164602113
You've probably seen the list a million times by now but here you go in the case you didn't.
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>>164602529
List?
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>>164602310
Just think about it is way.
Daria Rune is the MOST RNG a Tier 1 Deck has ever had in this game, it's only card draw.
Now compare that to a Tier 2 or 3 Hearthstone deck.
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>>164602670

I subbed out the two Conjurors for Shadow Reapers a few days ago, and those boys have been putting in work.

turn 10 Morde+Sexton is an incredibly safe play in super slow matchups where you're afraid of Odin/etc.
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>>164602301
Yeah, I wanna see her with storm, nothing with double attack is ignorable in this game.
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>>164602310
You can make a fresh account and have a T1 deck almost every time, HS takes months to get multiple viable decks.

Daria isn't even that bad to play against, she's almost certainly a T2 deck not T1. DShift, Aggro Elf, Aggro Blood all have good match-ups against it, even Dirt Rune might be better than it.

Daria is 100x less frustrating to play against than Elenas
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>>164602310
>What really makes this game more then generous hearthstone?
Hearthstone is the least generous online TCG by a far margin, Shadowverse gives you tons of free packs and playing for free without grinding for years is something you can easily do.
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How do you win in a Seraph mirror match when you go second
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Okay, so I won the first game I played as mage dragon. Felt Damn good.
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>>164602645
Just looking for a high value roll (like 10 decent legendaries). You get 45 total packs.
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>>164602834

Additionally, I'm not sure if I'm sold on Voices just yet.

The positive shadow generation it has vs. Howl is nice, but Howl is also an incredibly strong spell, so I'd honestly say that it's up to your judgement on that. Every once in a while enhanced Voices lets you chew through some obnoxious threat like Saber, but I'm shakey on whether or not it's worth it.
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>>164603013
Hope they brick or Odin
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>>164602717
B-B-BUT MUH FLORAL FENCER SO OP
4PP 7/8
>Replaced by an almost strictly inferior dragon warrior
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>>164603013
odin
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>>164603013
execute their seraph
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>One 5/5 away from Taker of Two title
>Can't get it

Just fuck me sideways already.
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>>164603030
I'd rather have 5-6 good legendaries than 10 random ones. If you got 2 Darias or Ancient Elves I'd keep that too, you should post some of you rolls so we can help.
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>>164603089
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>>164603013
Pray that they brick, and if Seraph starts showing up in high volume again it might be time to tech Odin.
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>>164602717
Why blitz lancer, shes basically a suicide soldier for 3 damage, when way of the ninja is superior in almost every way.
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I've tried several lists but this is what I'm liking at the moment.
Wardrobe Raider will always be a good card but not having to devote your evo points to one card is surprisingly flexible.
Odins are absolutely required to deal with Bahamut and Seraph
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>>164603148
FORTE IS NOT FOR LEWDS
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>>164602310

As annoying as decks like Daria or Bloodbats are, they have matchups that absolutely FUCK them sideways.

Compared to HS where the meta has always reached the logical conclusion that DUDE WARRIOR WINS, SV, especially in post-RoB SV, has a lot of wiggle room to make things work that you want to have work.
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Is pure roach deck a thing now?
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>>164602902
Elana is a million times easier to grind out than the fuckfest that is praying the guy doesn't topdeck his way to another dorothy+samurais lategame where you're leering two steps from death purely because of the rape that is the Levi+Rune fuckfest from turn 4~6.
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>>164603202
This
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>>164603228
forest is ded :^)
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3 more hours until Nepnep.
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>>164603228
>print neutral card that can pull 2 point followers
take a guess
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>>164603201
Oh and I meant to quote >>164602815
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>>164603232
If you're struggling that much with a B tier deck (Daria) I hope you never meet Aggro Elf or Blood this patch
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>>164602432
>>164602481
>>164602690
Well no shit I get more free packs and everything is lovely and grandeur, that's why I addressed it

>>164602627
>>164602820
>>164602902

The problem is as much as I enjoy winning, or having a good loss, the decks we're constantly facing are a constant few. I don't mind playing against a few darias or any of the decks I've listed, it's just playing nothing but those decks seems mind-numbing, and sure, getting some waifu-cardbacks are great, but seeing a shadow-player on the ladder is much more interesting, even if they play aggro.
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>>164603202
Forte is my waifu so I can lewd her.
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Does anyone else feel like Swordcraft has turned into Wardcraft?
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>>164603195
Because she's 3 damage removal for 3 PP that I can drop as a body when needed, also gets fetched by Avant.
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>>164603172
I posted this one in the last thread and everyone told me to keep rolling. Haven't gotten anything better yet.
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Can I get a concede 71172
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One hour until maint.

Six until Neph.

Hold you pants.
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>>164603195
She can jump on Yurius and leave a 3/1 body if he isn't protected by Veight. She is also a better play out of curve than most of our other 3 drops aside from Novice since she can immediately impact board state.
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>>164603414
>Avant

Opinion disregarded.
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>>164602834
>>164603042
gonna try it, seems reasonable
thanks oniichan
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whats the take 2 tier list now with bahamut
still royal/shadow?
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>>164603440
double albert +mary. i'm jelly.
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>>164603334
I agree but I think some of that is bias, there's more classes in hearthstone so it feels like you face "different" people more often but I think there's just as many different decks played in the meta in SV.

Even I still mistake Daria and DShift sometimes and Aggro/Control blood.
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What is the strongest possible Roach combo?
The best ones I can think of does 27 damage

0pp Fairy x4, Ancient Elf , 0pp Goblin Mage, any 1pp Spell, 3 Roach
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>>164603440
You can get 8 legenderies and you won't chose a roll only because 2 good legos. bloody mary is good but you would need more 9 legos for the deck
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>>164603443
Anyone?
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>spended 10700 vial on gold for discard dragon (including one forte)
>it doesnt work

Why you guys lie
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>>164603304
AND make a neutral card that pulls that other said neutral card
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>>164603060
Eh, she can kill a evolved Goblinmount on her own, happened a couple of times right now, but yeah, you gotta undergo some uncomfortable trades with her at times that dragonboy would have no trouble with.
4/3 and 2/2>warrior burns the 4/3 and rams the 2/2, in the same situation Teena is forced to kill the 2/2 and ram the 4/3 leaving her at 1 instead of 3 hp.
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>>164603304
Also another card that can fetch the card that fetches the roach.
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>>164603440
Fair enough, keep them coming
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>>164603691
And make it 0pp for easier roach combo
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>>164603668
>spended
You should spend some money on education first.
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>>164603471
Way of the ninja is a 4 damage removal for the same cost though and can hit past wards. Most of the time you play Blitz she is just going to smash into someone and suicide for the same effect as WotN but for 1 less damage.
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1pp forest
chose a follower it is immune this turn
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>>164603665
Thanks vampy.
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>>164603639
If you get Lionel involved to get 0pp roaches and a few Nature's guidance in hand it can get a lot dumber than that. Of course, that would never happen in game, but you know.
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>>164603792
Immune to what?
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> Elanafags fuming that their Tier 1 deck is getting wrecked by Tier 3 FoTM

Love it.
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>Roach now can be tutored
This game is over, time to move on.
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>>164602310
free packs are nice and all but shadowverse doesn't have anywhere near the strategic depth of hearthstone and can never hope to reach it's massive playerbase

also the only reason most of us even play this game is for waifus
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>>164603772
Fuck of
I know what I writed
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>>164603792

>mfw people don't understand how immunity works and either slam Albert or some Lisa'd creature into Khawy
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>>164603945
>Tier 1 FoTM
FTFY
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>>164603782
I just run two of both, they're both useful in different situations, though I would give the edge to WotN for better lategame utility for helping set up Alberto lethals.
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>>164603990
>strategic depth of hearthstone
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>>164603990
>shadowverse doesn't have anywhere near the strategic depth of hearthstone

You've earned this (you), being able to post something like that with a straight face
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>>164603586
I'd like to think that the lack of variety is due to how young Shadowverse, but take-two seems to be in such great shape.
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>>164603990
>shadowverse doesn't have anywhere near the strategic depth of hearthstone

bait
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>>164604040

Daria is Tier 3 garbage.

It just happens to be a little more less mind numbing than solitaire and dirtrune.
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>>164603782
I agree that Way is usually better played on curve and helps snipe Oglers etc, so I run both in my list since this aggro meta is dumb anyway.
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>>164603990
>strategic depth of hearthstone
what did he mean by this
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>>164603929
damage it can kill Aurelia and Big wards then back to the hand and combo again
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What the fuck is up with Forest? It costs 40k vials for a fucking whitewolf silverbolt deck. Jesus fucking christ.
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>>164603990
>but shadowverse doesn't have anywhere near the strategic depth of hearthstone
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>>164604172
He is just saying thanks for the (you)s
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Standard turn 4
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>>164604216
Buy pre-built goy
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>>164604134
>Maybe if I repeat it enough times it will become true
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>>164604019
>>164603772
Samefag
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>>164604204
You can already do that with Vines though
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This thing gets eaten alive by aggro, but it's hilarious when it works.
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>>164603945
>Dshift is a 40% win rate deck
is now
>We are a tier 3 deck even though no site reports us as such
Why are runefags so delusional.
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>go first
>lose
Nice game
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>>164603990
I know how you love (you)s i always falseflag as a dumb ungaplayer here
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How many Golds/Legendaries should I be looking for from the starter packs?

I unpacked
>Odin
>Lord Atomy
>Dragoon
>Albert
>12 assorted gold cards, 1 of which is animated

Should I reroll? Not sure what the rarity on legos is compared to shitstone
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>>164604150
Way of the Ninja can snipe Veight and Yurius without taking 1 damage, and can be used in the late-game for an additional minion.

Blitz will always trade 1-to-1 because, besides Yurius, you'll almost always hit a 2 ATK+ follower. Blitz is a better proactive play though, but Way is a better reactive play, because of the ward-ignoring factor. And let's be honest, killing Aggro bat as Control Sword is easy so teching Blitz for Blood Bat is a bad idea.
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>>164604216
>Falling for the Silverbolt meme
Play Roach
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>>164604324
Are you actually retarded?
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>>164603945
>daria is t3
no, it's t1 stop pretending it's a bad deck
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>>164604425
post deck fag
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>>164604095
>aggroverse will never have fun cards like this
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>>164602834
Is x2 cerberus a choice or not having 3?
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>>164604428
I know you are.
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>>164604472
If you never played before this thing was nerfed, it was the pure autism.
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>>164603304
>also make it 0 cost
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>>164604384
You should aim for 8-9 legos with at least 6 usable and goods
>golds
20 golds is a pretty good start
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Why aren't the netdeck sites in the OP?
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>>164604352
>The hardest counter to JO crystal losing to JO crystal
Embarrassing, where were his petrifies?
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>>164604310

> maybe if I deny it enough it will never be true
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>>164604356
What can you expect. Dshift was literally the most popular deck in masters for the entirety of DE (second most popular in AA) and rune players were still convinced they were playing some sort of underdog class.
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Why is it that every fucking problem in this game balance wise always fucking stems from Elf and Witch? There's a fucking limit to how much you can favor your pet classes, Jesus fuck.
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>>164604472
Having played against that card, I assure you it's anything but fun.
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>>164604472
>actually wanting to have to play against Yogg-like cards
Just go watch Trolden if you want to see fun whacky stories to tell your friends
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I'd like playing forest more if I could play as her
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>Dirtrune player plays Taboos with earthsigil on the field
>choices are a 9/6 Aurelia or 1/1 Knight
>targets the knight
>topdeck Albert
>Exact 14 damage lethal

I'm not going to lie, sometimes I like RNG in my card games.
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>>164604624
So you like me now?
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>>164604664
who?
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What decks can I make on the cheap?
1/2
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>>164604576
He used them on Grea like a baka.
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>>164604467
There's a guy playing it on stream right now
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>>164604516

A choice. Since it's a slow-as-shit list already, Cerberus is mainly there as tech to force uncomfortable trades/buff creatures that the opponent would rather ignore.

Like I said, I'm still deciding Voices vs. Howl, so I'm not really leaning on the Cerb+Howl bread and butter combo in this list.

That said, running 3x Cerb and 2x Howl would definitely serve to up the speed of the list, if that's what you're feeling you want out of it.
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>That class that everyone cried about that dropped off the face of the earth after the expansion
Am I talking about Sword or Shadow?
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>>164602310
>What really makes this game more then generous hearthstone?

Hearstone is produced by an american company owned by an american company that makes call of duty, this american company was helped with the Vivendi buyback and invested into by a certain chinese company that happens to be Tencent, owner of the american company that makes league of legends and that holds in its grasp the entire mobile and internet market in China, making it the biggest jew in all of China.

When asked by shareholders why they would pour so much money into ActiBlizzard, they said and I quote: "Because we are enthusiastic" and claiming they would be passive, meanwhile call of duty Online in china is making so much money that they had to call microtransaction experts from Nexon, which is the biggest korean jew company in the planet.

You know who owns cygames? No one. They are a subsidiary of CyberAgent which works mainly in other shit other than videogames like ads, media and investments. You could argue that 20% of their shares were given to the mobile publisher DeNa but those fags are tame.

Now compare the "family" of the two companies and do the math.

TL;DR

>nips are not jews
>chinese are jews
>american + chinese are super jews


Now do the math.

do
the
math
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>>164604803
Blood feeds on a meta defined by Daria. Everyone is teching against big boards and strong mid-game. Remove Daria from the meta, and everyone can tech easily against early-game.

Blood Bat isn't a problem.
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>don't draw any of my oracle's or amulet's
>still win
How are other Magebros doing today? I can't seem to stop winning.
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>>164604803
What does Levin mean, and why does swords Albert have it in his title too
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>>164604831
>bought every prebuilt
>wants only budget decks

i don't understand anon
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Have to do Dragon dailies, lose 7 games in a row.
Just go afk in unranked and get my opponents to surrender, thx Rowen for being such a shit craft...
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>>164604919
C. All of the above
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>>164604831
These post timers are killing me
2/2
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>playing shitty RNGless hearthstone
>not playing the superior Yu-Gi-Oh
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WHEN
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>>164604961
Well, one of the best climbing decks right now is a budget deck pretty much. All you need for now too.
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>>164604978
>afk rowen
new archetype?
>>
RESTART YOUR CLIENTS NEPNEP IS UP

I REPEAT, NEPNEP IS UP
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>>164604929
Screencapped. Your efforts won't be wasted.
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>>164604949
>>164604931
Everyone love Vampy now
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>>164604949
Levin is a country in the lore, and those two characters are kinda like watered down versions of Guts and Griffith.
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post rare loading screens
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>>164604949
Lightning and Thunder in Middle English.
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What two prebuilt decks should I buy?
>>
What's the difference between ranked and unranked?

btw I'm rank 1, or zero or whatever. I have only played unranked and done pretty good so far
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>>164595519
I do it.Hell i run TWO satan for memes.
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>>164604929
>nips are not jews
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>>164605256
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>>164604978
JO dragon is the answer.
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>>164604949
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>>164605267
Elves and sword seem to have the highest amount of good golds/leggos
Which helps for elves since they use a ton of them
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>>164605128
I always get a little triggered when shitters whine about something like Daria or Elana being T0 after coming from Yugioh where there's an actual T0 meta.
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>>164605182
post the drunken cow please
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>>164603228
Sorta. I'm not sure about winratios but I've seen it around masters. 0 costed Roach from Elven Prince can be annoying as shit if you can't into ward spam.
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>>164605341

relatively speaking

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a71LpKvem6o
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>>164555432
>Spending money on a free game

Uhhh...Shadowtards?
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>>164605341
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Turn timers in this game are too long.
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>>164605341
>nips didn't invent DLc
>nips didn't invent releasing unfinished products and patching them later
>nips didn't invent cutting finished content and then reselling them later
>nips didn't invent pay per month in order to play
>nips didn't invent cosmetic shops
>nips didn't invent retro indie trash
Nips aren't jews. The west is overrun by jews.
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>>164605252
> are kinda like watered down versions of Guts and Griffith
?
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I just pulled my third Alexander. I now own 3 of every
swordcraft gold and legendary. Is it time to meme
with Jewcraft? I got 2 Olivias, 2 Lucifers, 2 Sahquiels, 2 Odins, and 2 Satans for neutral leggos.
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>>164605268
The matchmaking system will give you players based on your rank. If you never play ranked, you'll play scrubs forever. To increase your rank, you play ranked.

It means that if you have shit decks or a shit collection, you shouldn't grind ranked too much or you'll not be able to clear those daily missions.
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>>164605610
Their backstory
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After getting a shit ton of dust from all the free packs and finishing off my dragon and blood decks, have 3500 left and want to touch up my sword deck.
Mid sword seems dead since the expansion, do i get an alexander and work towarda control sowrd or just stick to face sword and work on other classes?
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>>164605486
I'm triggered that my favorite archetype hasn't been meta for like 7 years now, and will probably never be meta again
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>>164605669
you NEED albert
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>>164605252
>watered down versions

So, they didn't have any gay sex?
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>>164605268
Ranked gives you score rewards and you move up the ladder in time, facing more and more competent opponents in ranked and unranked. Unranked nets you nothing but people often aren't trying as hard there so dailies can be easier to do there. I never do dailies in unranked, but to each their own. If you have shitty decks of certain classes it may be worth it.
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>>164604557
so you're saying I got absolute shite, thanks
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>>164592107
why isn't this game enjoyable
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Need a private match win.

ID: 11540

Thanks in advance!
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>>164605639
>neutral
>no bahamut
Not jew enough anon.
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>>164605252
So Evil Yurius legendary in a future expansion?
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>>164605776
Card games are only enjoyable when you're working toward the goal of improving your deck with each new pack and card you earn.

If you immediately bankroll into a Tier 1 deck, there's not much left to do but grind largely pointless matches.
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>>164605669
>Control
>Sage and Otohime
>No Alberts
Try again
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>>164604929
Yeah but Activision, Blizzard, TenCent and Nexon have never asked anyone to sign up for a credit card for exclusive in-game bonuses. Cygames did.
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>>164605776
Wrong thread bro >>164487170
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>tfw you meme just right and beat elana
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>>164605907
It can be fun to build decks of the other crafts and meme decks though. Everyone has a different draw for what brings them coming back to play a CCG.
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>>164605873
Very likely he'll have his corrupted version as Blood's legendary later, yes
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>>164605776
>>164605907
For (You).
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>>164605942
Nexon has
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>>164605942

Nexon did
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>Shit no lego decks on Take Two twice.
>Two Legos (+Fafnir) on draws.
I'll take it I guess.
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>>164605910
Converting it from my midrange, still dont have all the bits yet
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>>164604929
>>164605229
Samefag
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Please concede
33473
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>>164605951
XD
fucking retard
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>>164606204
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>>164605486
>ygo
everything looks reasonable if you compare it to something absolutely retarded, and nobody has taken ygo seriously in many years, if ever
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>>164606191
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I don't know what I'm doing wrong, but I just can't seem to win Control vs Aggro ever. The aggro in this meta is so fast that I don't know how you can possibly sustain yourself long enough to even do anything.

Like I've lost more matches against Aggro Blood as Earth Rune than I've won them. Anyone have any good lists for Earth that are actually effective?

As Control Blood I've noticed smart Aggro Blood players just stop playing followers at all and focus 100% on bursting you with spells. Suddenly all those Vengeance cards don't actually do anything since there's nothing to target. Righteous Devil just gets Dance of Death'd.
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>>164606017
>It can be fun to build decks of the other crafts and meme decks though.

This is also included when I said "working toward the goal of improving your deck with each new pack and card you earn"

We're on the same page regarding that
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>>164605230
I love you anon
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Does anyone else feel like Bahamut makes the game really unfun?
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>>164606121
My decklist if you want some ideas, I'm A1
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>>164606521
trust me baka, its not deathwing ))))
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>>164606521
maybe if your only idea of fun is dumping your whole hand onto the board every turn and overextending into the sun
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Hahahahahahahaha How The Fuck Is Bahamut Real Hahahaha Nigga Just Flood The Board Like Nigga Urd Your Mordecai
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>>164606204
Thanks fellow wizard.
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Maintenance in 20, nep nep in two and a half hours approximately.
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>>164606204
>>164606267
>>164606684

I was laughing the entire match
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How do I stop having 2 dorothys in hand at turn 3?
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Need concede. 99091.

Please and thank you.
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>>164606521
the expansion or the 13/13? the 13/13 is pretty terrible unless it's ramped out since they should be dead at 8 or 9 mana anyway.
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>>164606729
Play a real deck
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>>164606547
>2 bahamut
>no fangblade
>angel barrage and cyclone blade together
Drop a bahamut for olivia for sure since shes the life blood of control and lets you get more 9 drop alberts going
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>>164606521
It is unfun in Arena, but I enjoy it in ranked. The game is very aggro, it's only fair that control have powerful tools too. It isn't hearthstone where only aggro gains new cards.
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>>164606521
I play ramp dragon and he makes it really fun.
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>>164605815
fuck you're right.
Only 99,500 vial deck.
I'm 800 vials short of one more legendary though.
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>>164606370
If they don't play nothing just wait patiently for you combos
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>>164606729
Have only one copy of her
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>>164606649
>there are people that don't urd their mordecai to play around bahamut
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>>164605489
i got u senpai

but sorry, looks like she doesn't get much fanart

http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=58279726
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>>164606364
Nice ms paint skills
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>>164606772
Except if you're playing control and the game goes on forever because I barely see any DShit or Seraph nowadays.
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>>164606521
No, it's a powerful tool but also pretty risky (A single removal clears the opponent's board and lets you refill before the opponent can play). Plus it also makes for a constant check since the opponent has to be mindful about it.
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>>164606684
>>164606714
>not having your crystals showing at all times
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>>164606898
if you're not running a wincon that works at 8-9 mana you deserve that hot dragon dick.
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>>164606492
>>
Why do some people just concede as soon you drop the Ancient Elf?

I seriously don't get it.

Maybe this is just AA stupidity.
>>
Dragonewt is the real unga
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>>164606880
>Meme steam
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>>164606880
what is the source for these images
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>>164606796
Fangblade and Olivia are good cards, Olivia especially for the Albert 10dmg combo, but I don't want to cut anything in this deck desu. Even Barrage saved me so many times I wouldn't play less than 2.

I could cut 1 Amelia maybe.
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>>164606370
Are you running timeless witch?

She's a great way to force them to waste burn as nothing efficiently does 4dmg for aggro blood.

As for control blood, I'm confused. You're saying that they drop you to below 10 with no followers on the board?
Blood, the one that always leaves stray bats fucking everywhere? I mean their goal is always to use their copious amounts of burn to finish the job, but not leaving dudes on the board t4-5 seems extremely weird. You should basically always have targets for wardrobe, righteous, and diabolic then because your clean up should not be that efficient, nor should they brick that hard.
Plus if they're not playing anything, then you should just set up and murder them. I mean control blood can pretend to be aggro blood, so just kick their ass. The aggro blood matchup really shouldn't be that bad, you've got aggro turns 2-3, then a tempo swing 4, and from then on out you can ward and heal it up while wiping everything out.

You gotta be doing something wrong.
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>>164606964
Does the crystals charge faster if Rowen is fighting male leaders?
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I stopped playing when stormcraft was the best deck. Which list is now the best?
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can any1 help me with private match mission

34223
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>>164607024
B-but muh daria is OP and Yurius is overstatted
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>tfw won as without JO crystal
>>
New player here.

Don't know what card packs I should buy. Just standard?
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>>164606729

I run only two copies of her.
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>>164606521
It makes the ramp dragon mirror so much fun, as it's a game of chicken.
Whoever breaks and drops bahamut first loses.
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>>164607147
Only if they're also charging. If you don't have a picture of you with your crystal then I am not interested.
>>
Is there a current pure Seraph list without Eidolon?
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>>164607186
What is stormcraft
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>>164607024
Some people think that fast games > slow ass grindy shit even if they win. I can sort of understand that but in the end I'd rather just play it out.
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>>164603990
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>>164607186
>stormcraft
>best deck
LMAO
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>>164607239
Just buy standard for now until you have a solid collection.
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>>164607239
If you can average 3 wins and have the time, spam take two. Otherwise, Standard for sure.
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>>164607186
Wizardlizardcraft
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>>164606017
>Everyone has a different draw for what brings them coming back to play a CCG.

This is such a stupid and retarded argument to mention. When you bring subjective experience into a discussion, it kills it because you get into a slippery slope where eventually nothing matters because "hurr durr you're wrong because my personal experience trumps whatever you say, no matter how factual"

Imagine someone playing Basketball just because they love the texture of the ball. Idiotic. Exceptions do not invalidate the rule. Those are just fucking weirdos.

By and large, the only "different" reasons to come back and play CCGs are these:

1. Playing the fucking game
2. Making decks
3. Getting cards
4. Improving your rank (in whatever kind of ranks are available in your game)
5. Making friends/rivals to play and talk with

Anything else, and you're pretty close to entering special snowflake fetish territory
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>>164607186
Wizard Dragon
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>>164607024
Usually if it's a big ass AE and I bricked, I just scoop. If I have a decent hand I'll just play it out even if I can't kill her immediately.
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>>164607186
JO Dragon
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>drafting an almost complete dirt rune deck
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>>164607186
JO CRYSTAL
>>
>find new card game
>look up tier 1 netdeck that autopilots and beats everything
>grind with it mindlessly until you plateau in the only-above-average range
>game dies because everyone is playing a tier 1 netdeck that nobody likes to play against, let alone play
>repeat process

Reminder that if you're not laddering with a homebrew you're the cancer killiing every game
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>>164607393
>Your argument is grounded in subjective experience, mine is fact
(You)
>>
A few more hours until Nephthys saves Shadow.

;_;
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>>164607658
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>>164607090
official art

theres some stuff on the panda. search for lamretta
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>>164607186
Wizard Rowen
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Can PtP discard dragon actually work?
I honestly doubt it because there is no token generation and shit and even the Dariafags i'm playing against usually have more shadows than me.
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Soon.
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>>164607686
>>tumblr
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>>164607393
>When you bring subjective experience into a discussion, it kills it because you get into a slippery slope where eventually nothing matters because "hurr durr you're wrong because my personal experience trumps whatever you say, no matter how factual"
>Imagine someone playing Basketball just because they love the texture of the ball. Idiotic. Exceptions do not invalidate the rule. Those are just fucking weirdos.
people who actually have money riding on why people come back to play CCGs can't afford to dismiss subjective experience like that. the only reason you do so is that you're a keyboard warrior who's incentivized to make things simple and easy to talk about. magic devs have articulated and made public a huge amount of theory on subjective elements that help player retention aside from the core of gameplay and card collection, and i have no doubt that other card game companies do the same in-house
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>>164607572
>you draft olivia and juno's
easy 5-0
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>>164602310
>Talking shit about Reno decks
>and Elana
Fucking shitter
>>
>I'll be asleep when Maintenance ends
Fuck.
People will be having fun without me and that makes me angry.
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>>164607393
>names 5 different reasons to play
>saying that different people play for different reasons is retarded
what did he mean by this
>>
reminder that if you start losing a match just stall until maintenance so your opponent loses too
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>>164607829
It's just that you should kill yourself cucktrol fag
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>>164607801
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>>164607198

All kneel before the roach.
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>>164607920
>>164607920
>>164607920
New thread
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>>164607771
I played PtP Discard Flute last expansion, it sucked ass but was really fun. Flute is incredibly strong if you can get it online with a full hand. The new Disco is much better, but I don't enjoy it nearly as much.
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>>164607909
Holy shit when is maintenance? A havenfag is stalling me for the last 3 turns
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>>164607869
>when maintenance ends
???
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>>164607658
You can ladder with a deck that has the same base but tweak it enough that it is your own version. Not everyone is a born deckbuilder able to build a base deck, but playing a netdeck to change it to your playstyle isn't netdecking anymore. At least to me.
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>>164607891
He meant he is a contrarian retard who argues against his own points while trying to belittle other's arguments.
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>>164604650
>Decide to stick around and see what shit the new expansion shits out
>Clip starts
>Guy is losing
>Lemme guess, he's gonna topdeck something that's gonna win him the game
>Yup
>Next clip
>Yogg in title
>Either perfect yogg or kills itself
>Yup
>Close video
Even the videos are unenjoyable to watch
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WHAT IS THIS HORSESHIT?
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>>164607818
>the core of gameplay and card collection

You still admit that what I was saying is true. Almost any other reasons you could mention and I didn't outline are just the whipped cream on top of the ice cream.

There is still that -core- reason that everyone shares, unless, like I said, you're some kind of weirdo with a special snowflake reason.
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SUDDENLY, MAINTENANCE!
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>>164606847
They are playing burst spells. I can't wait because I'm dead. I see what you're saying though as a counter to Dance of Death and Piercing Rune.

Dance of Death, Piercing Rune, and Bahamut all punish you for playing the game. It's extremely frustrating
>>
GIVE ME MY WIN
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>>164607461

I guess that's fair.
>>
Was just about to win, then maintenance fug
>>
Was this scheduled? How long is it supposed to go for?
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I WAS WINNING AN ARENAMATCH

CYGAMEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES
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>>164608453
>Was this scheduled?
I hope not, more packs for us.
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When will the vampyshitter stop avatarfagging and go back to /hsg/? He's trying way too hard, it almost feels like I'm on reddit.
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>>164608453
There was an announcement yesterday, two hours.
https://steam.shadowverse.com/news/
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>>164608548
He was tripfagging until people bullied him out of it, but now people like him because he posts Vampy. Disgusting.
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>>164608285
You originally stated that "Card games are only enjoyable when you're working toward the goal of improving your deck with each new pack and card you earn." and that bankrolling into a t1 deck made the game a pointless grind, then jumped down that other guy's throat for suggesting that building other decks- even just for fun is retarded while simultaneously backpedaling and claiming that there are 5 different reasons you see people playing card games.
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>>164608598

Ok thanks anon.
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>>164605976
Looks like you deck yourself if you play dragoon
Or does the game end before you draw?
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>maintenance
What the fuck

Fucking nepfags i didn't know maintenance was contagious, now everyone is in maintenance
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>>164605582
Nips didn't invent these, but they LOVE this shit.
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>>164603990
>strategic depth of hearthstone
>strategic
>depth
>of
>hearthstone
You deserve all the (you)'s you get for coming up with such an autistic combination of words.
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>maintenance

does it mean smug is finally released?
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>>164606926
On the contrary
I treat it as a Themis
If it gets to attack, that's just icing on the cake. I already got my 3 for 1
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