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Cerberus > Nepthys Edition

Shadowverse is a free-to-play, class-based collectible card game similar to Hearthstone /hsg/
The expansion, Rise of Bahamut released on Dec. 29th.
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Platforms: iOS, Android, Steam (http://store.steampowered.com/app/453480/)

Official Website:
https://shadowverse.com/

Card Database/Deck Editor:
https://shadowverse-portal.com/

Intro Guide/FAQ:
http://pastebin.com/xNmQuDzR (embed) (read this if you're new)
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Ibw62rcFMrkvWl_KPKUuRC_0f7LbvwE27ubQ-EJo0oQ/edit?usp=sharing

Take 2 Card Rankings:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1k55fDS9LpX66H-pm5EgGouqwQSCF-sje-o5UwrXUwdI/htmlview#

Get your cheat sheets here: http://imgur.com/a/oj8uw

Card Collection Tracker/Pack EV Calculator:
Make a copy to edit your own.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1UyixeCyjXhdnFKgxTP-ILk_lMKBZ6kUoZHn9TaytYXo/edit?usp=sharing
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All-in-one Steam undub and uncensor UPDATED WITH BAHAMUT:

Link:
https://mega.nz/#!6IRACSjb

Password Key:
!47l0bjno5dE3Scb5C2-LCZNrhY7pDa3N1QfNQsRuq3U
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Updated card art package.

-Added RoB art
-Fixed Vampire Queen art which was flipped upside down
-Changed filenames to match the card names (card number is still included)
-1163 images, 1.68 GB

https://mega.nz/#!ukI2WaQa!Zn7RRA69BqYHOTw4_mBUJegmebn3n17yZpzOWsrPCTs

A growing collection of animated golds/legendaries:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1QUpZN9cgz0dvh637EYl5Pcx7PkXJlpufIL9Muc08jB8/edit#gid=1781390872

Come here if you want to search for card artworks:
http://www.corpetit.com/public/rage_of_bahamut/

Search by artists:
http://seesaawiki.jp/mnga_bahamut/
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You can listen and download both EN/JP voices for cards at this place:
http://usamin.love/sv.html

Get your iDOLM@STER Emblems and Sleeves with this guide:
http://steamcommunity.com/app/453480/discussions/0/152390648098880643/

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>>164544229
>stupidly long OP
>no Nude Luna mod
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Xth for Vampy a CUTE!
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RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACKAM
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Neptits will be cancer t0
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>>164544272
It's a WIP
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How the fuck i beat Wizard dragon as a Daria ?
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>>164544252
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>>164543942
Why does game ai's youtube videos have such huge dislike bars?
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>>164544361
All mods are WIPs, the first version of it has been released so it should be there.
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Reminder that once it's refined JO Dragon will be tier 0!
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Reposting for new thread
How's this discard dragon deck look senpai?
I feel it's a bit heavy toward the lower half of the curve.
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>>164544409
What does JO even mean?
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There are seriously people who play "budget" decks...?
The only decks worth playing are 40k+ vials.
I feel truly sorry for any peasants whose decks cost less than that
Fufufufu
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>all dailies are for my worst class even the reroll

fuck me
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>>164544272
It got taken down because that shouldn't get its own section in the OP. If you really want to get it in there, create a mod pastebin and put it inside of that
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>>164544468
All Gold/Legendary deck when?
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>>164544465
Jack off.
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>>164544365
you play normally
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>>164544409

The fuck is JO?
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About to start playing some ranked, how does my aggro deck look?
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>>164544158
>>164544312
Even control sword can outvalue straight up elana.
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Where's discord?

;)
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>>164544492
>50 sections for retarded shit like nip sleeves and a card art "changelog"
>can't fit a single download link
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>>164544465
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>>164544534
SHAKING YOUR DICK TO PUT SWEET SMEGMA OUT OF YOUR BALLSACK
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>>164544534
The JO crystal, of course
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>>164544536
-1 dod -1 gobu +2 imp lancer
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How is Storm Ramp Dragon differ from Storm Dragon and Ramp Dragon?
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>melted 3 legendaries to make JO dragon
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>>164544492
Cancer nude mod is from Discord and reddit. Be it pastebin or not, it will never be in the OP.
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>>164540246
>>164541482
>go 1st 4 times in a row
>get cucked by Bahamut twice
>get cucked by topdecked Dragonguard/Forte combo twice
>get cucked by Olivia once
:^)))))))))))))))))

Here's the fruits of my labors: https://shadowverse-portal.com/deckbuilder/create/5?hash=2.5.63E_G.63HPo.5_Qqi.5_Qqi.63Ezi.63HPy.6Avi6.6Ay8M.5_Qqs.63HQQ.6736i.6736i.6AtG0.6At-a.6Aysw.678UI.65BUc.61LeE.5_Qr0.6923s.5_QrA.63HQa.63HQa.67370.5_RZa.5_RZa.659nO.6Ay8C.6AviG.63HR2
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>>164544576
The problem isn't the length, it's the content. This is a blue board, for one
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>>164544536
This is the list you should be playing.
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>Remove all RoB stuff from my Shadow deck other than Reaper, Sexton, and Undying Resentment
>Start winning again
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>>164544656
Storm Ramp and Storm are the same thing.
Ramp Dragon is less all-in on the Storm plan, which basically means no Seabrands and fatter top-end.
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HOLY FUCK DING DONG DOES TONS OF DAMAGE FROM JO CRYSTALS
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every fucking match against solitaire i ask myself why i'm still playing this game. at least elana can be interacted with
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>>164544697
There's nothing NSFW about a download link.
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so i bought the 600 crystal pack for 4 bucks.

are any of the prebuilt decks worth buying?
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>>164544707
>Undying Resentment

that's a basic card, m8

also desu i find lurching corpses lacking for aggro shadow
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>>164544654
>>164544706
Thanks I'll try both of these out
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>>164544707
>undying resentment
>RoB
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>>164544651

The memeclaw pendant?
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>>164544753
>waaah I can't interact with rune
>daria gets added
>waaah I can't clear rune's board
???
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>>164544576
Idolshit is only there because the retard choose that dominion just afterwards. The steam link is some attetion whore and I agree it shouldn't be there, but nobody cares enough.
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>>164544741
Ding Dong regularly charges her JO crystals
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Post your replay history JO dragons
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>he is not playing JO Dragon
seriously what the fuck is your problem?
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>>164544817
if you wanna play control blood, that one is. Forestcraft and shadowcraft have the required legends for just about every deck. Others aren't so great value wise.
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>>164544849
Add jo
Use arrows
Board clear
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>>164544876
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>>164544817
Pretty sure the 500 crystal price is good even if the only card you need from it is a legendary you don't have.
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This is worst than daria bricking, at least daria draws 5 cards.

Shadowbabs?
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>>164544890
gee you sure screwed the pooch on this post huh
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>>164544849
The people who whine about Daria and the people who whine about DShift are different players.
DShift is the real cancer. Daria dies to a board clear.
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>Dragon Emissary keeps getting DoD

I can't meme like this
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>>164545001
And Dshift dies to getting hit in the face
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>>164544960

I literally just quoted that post and all hell broke loose. Don't even know how.
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>>164544697
It's a link and the generals have lewder OP pictures half the time
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>>164544823
>>164544837
I meant Voices of Resentment obviously.

But yeah Lurching and Necroassassin were fun but going face is more effective. Attendant of Night especially just isn't a threat. That Nic Fit style of play is something I enjoy though, I feel I should take a more honest crack at making a genuine Midrange deck at some point. And no I don't mean shit like Mordecai or Nepthys, by that point you need to have won or be close to winning.
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>>164545001
Daria is cancer for aggro, DShift is cancer fir control
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>>164544876
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>>164544947
Olivia should never be in the same list as Imperial Dragoon. I'm inclined to believe the rest of your list is trash.

Also it's turn 6 and you've got 16 life so you're not even totally fucked here.
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>>164544876
That JO was a meme
Did dailies in unranked and wanted to try it too
Then i lost to a real Dragon deck with Blood and won agaist a Discard
Meme Dragons are always meme
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>>164545001
>Daria dies to a board clear.

board clear that doesn't exist on turn 6 for any class except haven.
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>Not putting Forte in your JO deck
Why do you like losing, anon?
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>>164544876
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>>164545095
>Attendant of Night especially just isn't a threat
What are you talking about
The pressure it puts on the opponent when you Urd it will force him to waste an evo point
Same for lurching and necroassa, their advantage is that they can clear the board from annoying wards or big followers without wasting evo points
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Need a concede please
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>>164545184
JO has board clear, half the deck is board clear
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>>164545184
conflagration if you got an additional orb and have a jo pendant?
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>>164545198
Mini forte is better for that deck because it doesn't fuck wth Emissary
Still a meme for cheap dailies
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This meta sucks every match is against Wizard Dragon now
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>>164545252
thanks
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>>164545350
Didn't see any in unranked AA and master.
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>>164545184
>What is Calamitous Curse?
>What is Revelation?
>What is Breath of the Salamander?
>What is Ramp?
>What is Lurching Corpse into Necroassasin?
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Just lost against 6 JO Dragons. ok what the fuck
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>>164545247
What I mean is that the gameplan is slow and somewhat inconsistent. If you don't have Urd or at least Soul Conversion then Lurching Corpse is a complete non-threat that can be ignored entirely. Lurching to similar extent but he can actually discourage wards or force the enemy to trade with it in order to not risk losing valuable dudes later. To maximize the effectiveness of Lurching or Necro however you're going to have to make sure you have at least some control over the board, which entails trading, and you generally don't want to trade with Aggro unless absolutely necessary. You want to end the game on turn 6. They aren't bad cards but they don't really facilitate the style of play I'm pushing towards.
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>>164545350
WizardDragons exists only in /svg/
If you face one it's an anon trying to meme
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>>164544468
>spend 40k vials on control blood
>lose every game
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>>164545350
>wah, i keep getting matched with free wins

???
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>He doesn't run JO Ding Dong

No wonder you aren't masters yet.
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>>164544876
>All these players who haven't charged their crystals enough
Go back to your aggro blood and midsword decks
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>>164545556
>unranked

Pussy.
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>>164544876
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I'm newish, and I just got a second Dragoon from packs. How do I make Discard Dragon?
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https://twitter.com/GameAI_jp/status/816540478099234816
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>>164545156
Master players use olivia in discard. The reason is because you need to use all your evolve to counter and gain board control. Sound like you dont even know what you are talking about let alone have 3 imperal dragoon. I cant use imperal dragoon on turn 9 since dragonmancer rite isnt on the board.

Turn 9 evolve albert 10dmg. Oh wait im safe right ;^)
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>>164544671
Thats bullshit but I believe it
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>>164545637
>

もりたおる式『テンポウィッチ』マスターランク28連勝!ドロシーシナジーを極限まで高めた構成とは(動画あり) http://game-ai.jp/22211/ @さんから

マスターランク「28連勝」という驚異の記録を達成した、テンポウィッチの攻略ガイドを公開しました!

thanks senpai you've really helped me out
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>>164545627
You don't
And don't fall for this JO meme too
Dragon is RampStorm or the cheaper Face
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Daily PSA:

DONT PLAY THE 30 FPS VERSION ON YOUR COMPUTER

Even if your monitor can't even display 60 FPS the 60 FPS version of the game runs DRAMATICALLY better.
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I know this is one of you fuckers, fess up.
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>>164545637
Reminder that Aggrobats also got a 30 winstreak in masters when DE meta was still stabilizing
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>>164544505
they cant make gold and lego's too cheap because their usually op as fuck, it'd break the game

you will never see a useful 1-2 point gold or lego ever
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>>164545473
Blood control is probably the most expensive deck in the game and it's still shit.

I regret buying the premade. (I didn't even have enough vials to craft the rest of the legendaries)
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>>164545591
I'm taking it to ranked tomorrow.
Will post results.
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>just beginning to possibly turn the board in my favor during a stagnant match
>phone dies

is this what they call "learning the hard way"?
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>>164545707
>just tried this
>have been emulating SV on linux through wine

actually there is a significant difference, thanks
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>>164545708
It's the stream guy lul
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>>164545684
I don't care if it's bad, at this point I'm not looking to make what's the best build or really git gud, not until I'm more comfortable with this kind of card game I'm a YGO shitter. Discard Dragon looks FUN and interesting.
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>>164545786

You're welcome.
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>>164545797
Discard won't be fun and you need 3x Imperial Dragoon
Do you have them? If not don't bother
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>>164545786
>emulating SV on linux through wine

You absolute madman
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>Turn 1 pass
>Turn 2 pass
>Turn 3 angelic barrage
>Turn 4 emissary
>h-hear the dragons roar!
>concede
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>>164545727
>You will never see a useful 1-2 point gold ever
Vania
Levi
Liza
Roach
Dragonnewt Scholar
Vampiric Fortress
Holy Sentinel
Altered Fate
Breath of the Salamander
Shapeshifting Mage before DE
Date Masamune I believe in him
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>>164545757
Charge that shit up. Bring it to live again.
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>>164545868
I have 2 of them now from packs, and I have like 9k Vials built up rn.
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>>164545473
>get two blood matriarches and 2 Bloody maries and vamp queen
>people tell me to make blood control
>melt down other legendaries and about a gorillion animated golds and silvers
>get shit on by aggro blood every other match
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>>164545880
Well there's no Linux version so no choice if I don't want to play on my phone. Unfortunately the latest expansion fucked the fullscreen version so I have to play it with spare space at the side.
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>>164545883
>no lego's
im still half right :^)
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>>164545902
You can craft the last one and go ahead if you want
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>>164545924
Aggro Blood is the fun police, in full force now.
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>>164545883
>shapeshifting mage and date
calm down there
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>>164545679
blah blah some master rank player got a 28 winstreak in master with daria
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>>164545727
literally anyone that played more than 2 hours can see otherwise
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>>164545459
i wish carberus had more clothings she would be much cuter...
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>>164545967
Idk how to make it though, like I said I'm pretty new so I don't know what's good to run/what to craft.
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>>164545930
shut up, autist
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>>164545924
>>get shit on by aggro blood every other match
if thats the case then your shit is definitely fucked up, aggro blood should be the only deck you can beat consistently
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>>164545930
Fullscreen works just fine on wine 1.6.2 on playonlinux.
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>>164545980
Shapeshifting Mage was run in old ramp dragon, which was tier 1. These were the days before Unica.
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>>164544534
>>164544465
A shitty Discord meme that should be filtered
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Why do people rarely play forest anymore? I never see forest decks posted here. Isn't aggro forest still top tier?
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>>164545641
Show me a single Masters list for Discard running Olivia and I'll believe you. Twitter or any usual site is fine.
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>>164545727
>le old as dirt faec
>le shadow reaper faec
>le vampiric fortress faec
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>>164545930

My attempts at using both Wine and Linux have always gone something like pic related
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>>164546103
>discord
is a serious deck stop with that
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unga bunga rate my mains
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So what do the nipponese think about daria deck?
Do they see it as fucking OP as we see it?
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>>164545883
Date Masamune and Shapeshifting Mage are only good for late-game filler in Arena.
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>>164546108
Its dead. I get matched against some Silver Bolts. This id literally the only forest deck out there right now.
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>>164546057
that was like when the game had been out less than a month and it was competing for spots with dragonrider
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Daria is perfectly balanced just put themis in your deck to clear the board after they play daria, 3 oglers, and a flame destroyer on turn 6.
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>>164545924
Control blood shits all over aggro blood
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Your JO dragon can't save you.
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>>164546031
I'm running a 1920x1080 monitor, and since RoB dropped if I try to expand it I get empty space at the right. I'm running it in 1600x1200 instead in the meantime. I'm not running fullscreen which may have somethong to do with it.

>>164546150
Wine is a pain in the ass but after the initial curve Linux has been great.
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Control sword will be top tier once people figure out where the new cards go
Well better than midrange sword at least
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>>164546183

>IM@S sleeves

Unironically, go fuck yourself
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>>164545184
>what is Demonic Storm
>What is Themis' Decree
>What is Breath of the Salamander
>What is Will of the Forest
>What is Cyclone Blade
>What is Lurching Corpse + Necroassassin
>What is Calamitous Curse
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So right now Blood is as ungacraft as it gets right?
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>>164545727
>you will never see a useful 1-2 point gold or lego ever

hare of illusions - a useful 1pp gold
breath of salamander, elf girl liza, shadow reaper, fucking vampy - powerful 2pp golds

ancient elf - the staple forest 3pp legendary...

just off the top of my head
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>>164546183
>waifu
>that generic dragon bitch

The only waifus are Bloody Mary and the bitch that drips wine on her foot
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>>164546272
Yup. Blood is RDW as fuck.
Why Cygames, why?
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I honestly have no idea what this hag was trying to do
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>>164545727
>>164545883
THE SAVIOR OF SHADOWCRAFT IS HERE
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>>164544876
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if you derank do you need to trial all over again
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>>164546225
But this says otherwise
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>>164546234
They'll drop another next turn
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>>164546318
You can't derank past trials
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>>164546318
Yes.
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>had to run forte into a tiger just to stay alive against heal seraph
H-hear!
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>>164546309
He was probably running an Eidolon deck.
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>>164546318
You actually lose all your points and go back to whatever letter 0.
So if you rank down from B you go straight to C0. It's pretty rough. Be careful anon!
>>164546335
>Silver Bolt that high
Someone post a list, I opened the wolf and I've been wanting to try it out
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>>164546280
>talking about 1-2 point gold or lego
>he mentions 3pp card

What did he mean by this?
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>>164546264
>something that doesn't kill Daria nor Gazers
>
>something that only kills one Daria or Gazer
>shit
>situational so you can't call a true turn 6
>only kills 2
>needs Sigil
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>>164546245
>>164546305
no bully!
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>Shitters post Dragon replay history
>No way to proof they are using that meme deck
Just admit you aren't playing that trash
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what is this feeling? is this the power of JO?
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>>164546335
Nips must live in a sandbox.
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>>164545727
Levi
Dragonewt Scholar
Roach
Vampy
Vampire Fortress
Altered Fate
Liza

and almost all of them are core
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>>164546314
I really did not expect this guy to be the best Shadow out of Rise, but goddamn he's won me a lot of games.
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>>164546405
it's the cheapest legendary
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>>164546314
Post a decklist with him, I opened two.
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How old is Forte?

FORTE years old! haha!
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>>164546517
still not 1-2 cost
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>>164545732
>its shit
>i dont even have the full deck

Really makes me think
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>>164546554
This list only has two, go nuts.

>>164546505
A thought just occurred to me that I can run Skeleton Knight alongside him maybe.
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>>164546574
>What is Levi
That card is better than three quarters of the legendary pool.
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>>164546114
>>164546280
>>164546314
>>164546502
enough
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How do I play anything other than Banner Sword? I tried storm Dragon and Daria Rune and fail miserably. Same with bat blood and any shadowcraft. This game make me feel like a retard
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>>164546236
Shadowcraft counter dragon?
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>>164546706
It's hard after you get sick of spamming banner. I moved to Elana which is probably my favourite deck, but if you failed with Daria you suck.
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>>164546482
Post your winrate against aggro bats.
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>>164546759
I'd guess Khawy and Lurching Corpse has a good amount to do with that, but I don't play Shadow.
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Reminder that healing is complete turbocancer in literally every single game that it's in
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>>164546706
How the fuck do you fail with bat blood? Top tier deck and the easiest to use.
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>>164546868
Fuck off aggro shitter. Aggro is far worse than healing. Aggro is literally the worst thing about card games there is
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I guess Storm Blood really is the best Aggro Bat variant.
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>>164546868
Nah, healing in YGO is absolute no-use trash.
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>>164546868
get shat on daria retard
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>>164546920
post dick
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>>164546786
I know how Runecraft deck work but I never able to do it myself. I always run out of card before I can spellboost anything.
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>>164546853
you tell me
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>>164546868
Mad because you have to play more than 10 turns?
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>>164546759

Shadow lists are either too aggressive with Howl+Cerb, etc. for Ramp Dragon to handle, or have access to too much removal/stall/ward in the case of midrange and control Shadow for Aggro

Forte (and new mini-Forte) is the only scary card in the Shadow/Dragon matchup, to me.
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So let me get this straight

>Tier 1
daria
aggro bats

>Tier 2
everything else

>Tier 3
discard dragon

See you faggots in the next expac
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>>164546975
That's the whole point of Daria. And you should have lots of cards which draw cards, including fate's hand, insight, and that 2pp spell which does 1 damage and draws a card.
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>>164546920
I have a StormBlood list burt havn't tried it yet
Also, 0 Queens
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>>164546318
you get send to the shadow dimension.
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>>164547057
You're a scrub but picture got a chuckle out of me
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>>164547057
t0

wizard dragon

*roars internally*
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>>164546878
I don't know. I know the combo is chaining Night horde into Vania into Castle for huge damage but I never got the actual card to play the combo right.

All the game I won with Bloodcraft was by using Blood wolf evolve going face and razor claw enemy to death
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>>164547081
>>164546963
You don't use Alucard of Queen in Storm Blood. wtf anon? It's literally aggro bats, you don't run those 2 cards in aggro at all.
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>>164547123
>All the game I won with Bloodcraft was by using Blood wolf evolve going face and razor claw enemy to death
Congrats, you figured out how to play aggro.
Step 1: play shit
Step 2: hit face
Step 3: burn
That was real hard, huh champ?
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>>164546921
Did something get banned from nurse burn?
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>>164547058
I max out all of them, Kaleidoscope, Fate hand, Magic Missile, Sorcery Cache. I actually use more than recommend but I still run out of card.
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>>164547123
>I know the combo is
Wrong way of thinking

There's no combo. You only have two things : tools to deal damage, and a goal of dealing as much damage fast and every turn.
>>
>>164546759
>Luching/assassin/watchman fucks their drops
>impossible to deal with Attendant of Night properly
>Mordecai fucks bahamut
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>>164547184
>mastema

is she really that good? i also dont have any of her could i replace her with something else?
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REEEEEEEE I'M TIRED OF ALL DARIA'S. What's the best deck to kill these witches. I'll kill every one of them. I have already opened 3 Darias but I don't want to stoop down their levels.
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>>164547057
I like the new dank meme
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>>164547215
I wouldn't count that as a healing playstyle, it's just a way to deal burn. Also that's never ever been meta at any point.
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>>164547290
JO Dragon
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>>164547250
She's a card that is played on Curve if you get her and want to force out removal, so you can have successful Imp Lancer game closing.
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>>164547197
That's not really how bat blood suppose to be. That was exactly like how banner sword play, drop everything and go face. There is no combo, just an attrition war. I don't even use bat

When I play against actually blood player they can chain combo to deal 15+ damage in 1 turn. Mine is just a clutch win
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>>164547290
i've got more than 80% winrate against daria with this
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>>164547290
Literally any control deck with board clear or wards
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>>164547057
>no JO dragon
In to the trash it goes
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friendly reminder to bully daria shitters
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>>164546912
>REEEE HE PLAYS CARDS THAT DO DAMAGE AND PROGRESS THE GAME
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>>164547332
What rank is this? Why did he evolve Daria instead of Ogler?
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>>164547356
Khawy's fucking based, he's saved my ass countless times
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>play elana
>don't get a 2 drop
>lose to aggro bats
>lose to every shitter playing meme control decks that doesn't even care about losing every game to the best deck in the field
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>>164547220
I wouldn't recommend Sorcery Cache. Maxing the others and Daria is good though. If you're running out of cards you might not be taking enough followers or enough face damage nukes.

I max Craig, Clarke, Witchette, Ogler, Blade Mage, Conjure Golem and Piercing Rune. I also take 2x Mage Levi. That's a lot of face damage (the 2x Levi nuke and 3x Piercing Rune is 12 damage right there, as well as 6 against followers), and the Blade Mages have storm.
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I'm getting memed using Sword and Elf.

What decks are people running now. Mid Sword and my Silver Bolt meme deck aren't doing so hot
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>>164547405
I don't have the answer to that question, but it didn't matter anyway.
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>>164547332
>evolving Daria for the trade instead of Ogler
>>
>play wizard dragon
>win
Nice game shadowbbys
>>
I want to pick a favorite craft but I just can't decide between forest, haven and blood. Got mostly haven cards but I seem to do best with aggro blood. Elves are my fetish
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>>164547376
Who cares if the game progresses fast if you don't have any input if you win or not.
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>>164547432
Aggro/Tempo forest is apparently doing good.
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I want to make a Shadow deck to protect Luna's smile and make use of all these Neps. I'm missing a lot of good golds though, so what should I prioritize spending my vials on? Not pictured are two Urds and 3560 vials.
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>>164547290
join them, that's what I did. I used to play dragon, sword, and shadow. I tried every deck but I stayed in the same spot in aa for 2 days.

I crafted 2 more daria and made the deck. now I'm climbing easy. I deleted every other deck I had so I can only play this and sometimes aggro bats until I hit masters.

I don't care how much if a fraud people call me, I'm doing this because the meta won't let me do anything else (except for roach forest and seraph but I don't play those crafts.)
>>
>Switch to bats
>Go second every single time
Fuck this game.
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>>164546478

Is that Vampi or Veight?
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He probably wasn't running Odin but i like to believe he cucked himself.
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>>164547602
going second is ideal unless you're in the mirror; literally the only time it's bad.
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>>164547629
Does it matter?
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>>164547629
does it matter?
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>>164547432

What does the Japanese say?
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>>164547629
Stick your hand under that girl (male)'s skirt to find out
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>>164547519
>what are wards and control
>what is aoe and removal
Any aggro deck just keels over and dies to control
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>>164546759

Oh look, another excuse to post this.
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>>164547678
meifu e no michi
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>>164547057
Daria is T2 at best
Yurius isn't hard to deal with and Aggro Bats will be T2 before the end of the season, if not already
>>
>8 PP
>Clear your opponent's board, summon another 8/8, draw a card, heal for a bunch, and gain a ton of shadows
How is this balanced? Fuck Shadowcraft.
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>>164547729
lul everytime
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>>164547290
literally any control deck or deck that runs AoE clear shits on Daria for free
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Truly the greatest of wins
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>>164547760
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>win against discard dragon by turn 5
>with a seraph deck
h-hear
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>>164547665
>>164547676
>>164547713

I guess I am now bisexual.

Thanks Cygames.
>>
>>164547821
>all the good clears are 5+ mana and you'll be dead or dying at that point

:)
>>
So I've pretty much been playing only Arena super casually for a few weeks and have yet to build a deck.

This is what I have right now and I did buy the bloodcraft prebuilt on a whim. Any recommendations on what I should make? I don't know shit about the current meta or anything.
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>>164547752

Is that Japanese for Elf Slut?
>>
what decks have the best matchup against daria?
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Does Elana, Elana/Seraph or Seraph do well against all the Blood and Rune or are they also road kill
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>>164547869
S-stop bullying Rowen and let him win!
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>>164547721
You do know that the removal does do shit against the current meta of storm + burn.
Also there are barely any good early game wards that aren't huge tempo losses like ding dong.
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>>164547924
well you don't seem to have any legendaries so I'm going to have to suggest banner
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>>164547821
>dariababs trying to rationalize why they're winning so much
y-yeah all the other people are dumb, lmao absolutely no one picks board clear u're just bad xdd
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>>164547864
Hahahahahahahaha How The Fuck Is Daria Rune Real Hahahaha Nigga Just Run Control Like Nigga Just Play Themis Haha
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>>164547969
yep fucked up the image was to big to upload.
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>>164547936
Elana destroys tempo rune and loses to bats with an average draw unless you are running the 1/3 wards that are dead in any other matchup.
>>
Name one non aggro deck that doesn't cost 500 thousand vials
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>>164547915
Daria can't flood the board until 4-5 unless she got the perfect draw and she'll still have to contest board with you

Temple Defender alone completely shits on Daria's """"""early game""""""
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>>164547869
Discard dragon doesnt use phoenix roost though. Nice try memer
>>
>>164548039
Looks like control blood is calling for you.
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>>164548039
You have a good Forest deck. That's where I'd start if I was you.
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>>164548050
>Elana
>losing to bats
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>>164547760
Are you like, a crazy person?
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>>164547965
Good thing Daria's only storm is a fucking 2/2
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>>164547969
>banner
literally the most boring deck im the game, even the default decks are funnier to play
>>
Remember when people thought Eidolon of Madness was gonna be game breaking?

It's complete shit just like I predicted.
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>>164548143
>even the default decks are funnier to play
>tfw trying to do my daily with the default Shadow deck

Have to disagree with you there matey
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>>164548062
but that's the point
turns 4 / 5 are the breaking points of any match, everything that happens before is mostly irrelevant since it's merely setup for those 2 turns, and Daria hits 4 and 5 so fucking hard there's no way anybody could follow
Seriously having a board full of oglers by turn 4 including an evolved one if she is second is simply unbeatable for a fuckton of decks and crafts
>>
>>164548139
I'm someone who actually uses Daria Rune instead of endlessly whining about it and therefore knows its vulnerabilities, which it has a lot of.

Daria bricks harder than any deck in the game and can only play by overextending into removal, literally just remove their shit and they have nothing.
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I'm holding the line seraphbros
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>>164548143
Its the only deck you really need to climb with until like A - Masters.
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This was the most boring game of Hearthverse I have ever played.
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>>164548162
good now i can turn the 2 i have into vials
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>>164548196
This never happens unless again, they have literally the perfect draw.

Any deck can shit on any other deck if they have the perfect draw and the opponent doesn't, it's not an argument.
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>>164548162
>5pp card that simply triggers amulets and does 0 damage

Yeah I was really fucking scared
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>>164548094
Any idea where I should start on this?
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>>164546659

How often do you manage to feed it or you just let your opponent do the trading?

I suppose I will need to try back an old school version one of these days.
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>>164548202
ah, so you're just shit at the game
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>>164548285
Not an argument
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>>164547915
even most of the 5+ mana clear isn't enough to clear what Daria plays.

Haven has Themis
Dragon has nothing except hoping they can ramp to 10 mana before turn 6 for Bahamut.
Forest has nothing
Shadow has lurch+necroassassin which still leaves them one card on the field 90% of the time.
Blood has revelation but only if they are below 10 health which rarely happens until the turn after Daria is played and she's about to hit you in the face for 12+
Sword needs to keep 4 damage minion on the field on turn 4 and hope that it's not removed when Daria is played.


Shit wouldn't be as bad if ogler was a 3/3 but being a 3/4 means it can survive the majority of removal in the game.
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>>164548202
>literally just remove their shit and they have nothing
You mean until they use Daria and hurls in another batch of low cost followers?
That's why I'm complaining, Daria is too powerful of a crutch to be balanced, I can't recount the times I cleared the board and emptied her hand until she just uses Daria and is good to go again in one turn while I threw a good chunk of my stuff to delete her initial assault
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How do you fucks get so good at this game
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>>164548272
It's just letting the opponent feed it, trading when necessary, or popping my dudes with Soul Conversion. With Necroassassin I was doing more of it but it still puts in a lot of work without her. Bonus points if they drop a ward for you to suicide your guys into, or if you can get a Resentment combo with Sexton out.
>>
Concede pls

83036
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>>164548202
So since you're of the opinion that a deck can have literally no weaknesses if it's going to be T1, what do you think is RoB's T1?
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>>164548348
I don't think I've seen that background/field before wtf
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>>164548213
Post dick. I'm not sure if I should be running x3 hares. x3 sentinels and so on. Help a seraph bro out
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>>164548257
>this never happens
Are we playing the same game?
Oh wait, I think we're not, since you're probably a daria piece of shit yourself
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>>164548265
gameai good pretty good lists
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>>164548395

It's the Simple Background you can select when you queue up.
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>>164548462
Oh. Why would you do that?
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>>164548103
Post a list that can win against a good bat draw if they miss either 1, 2 or 3 drop.
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Why do people have trouble with Daria decks? Just plop down a Lucifer and she can't do shit about it most of the time.

Bonus points if you use Sahaquiel for free board cleaning and healing. Keeps your Lucifer safe.

Coincidentally, Lucifer is also good against aggro bats assuming you can stabilize.
>>
>>164548325
>what is BotS
>what is WotF
>it doesn't matter if lurching + necroassassin leaves them with one card because their followers are literally all they have
>what is Tsubaki
>>
Does /svg/ have recommended decklists?
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>>164548395
you have to battle Yugi in order to unlok the Kangz hall
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>>164548328
If you can assume that they have another Daria then they have to assume that you have another removal spell.

Not an argument, Daria isn't even searchable.
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>>164548498

Eh, it's pleasing to the eye; no dynamic elements.

Matter of preference, really.
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>>164548325
>Dragon has nothing except hoping they can ramp to 10 mana before turn 6 for Bahamut.
Fafnir and Imperial at 9. Conflagration at 7. Salamander at 6. Lightning Behemoth at 5. They aren't unconditional board clear, but they do enough to thin the weeds out.
>>
>>164548512
>just plop down a 7 drop in current meta
>>
So when Nephthys is released will shadow finally be good?
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>>164548381
No weakness? Killer Queen
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>>164548582
>Lightning Behemoth at 5
u fokn wot m8
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>>164548202
>Almost positive winrate against every class except dragon(off by 0.1%) and haven in masters
>No. 1 master currently plays Daria
>My hand bricks everytime
>Not admitting he's just a shitter that cannot pilot literal free win the deck
>>
>>164548579
I like the subtlety of the dynamic elements desu. A candle flickering gently, a grandfather clock pendulum swinging peacefully, dawn light filtering in through the window. Gives it a nice ambience IMO.
>>
Why the fuck does Daria get to be a 7/7 on evolve?
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>tfw the Heart of the Cards is not with you tonight
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>>164548591
No, shadow is still shit. The game is too fast for ahadow to be relevant. All it can do are play gimmicky aggro decks which lose to Haven.
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>>164548587
Lucifer is an 8 drop, and I don't see your point. No current decks kill you by then unless they get a ridiculously good opening or you don't play any cards.
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>>164548591
Shadow is fine without her but people only think in memes when it comes to Shadow.

>>164548652
>Almost positive winrate against every class except dragon(off by 0.1%) and haven in masters
Master's isn't really representative of the game as a whole. It bothers me when people keep bringing it up because the sample size is kind of small.
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>>164548582
>Lightning Behemoth
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>>164548543
Essential tier: PTP Sword, Spell Dragon, Silverbolt Forest, Nep Shadow

Don't bother: Daria Rune, Bats Blood, Tempo Forest
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>>164548162
I remember him being one of the only Rise legends /svg/ didn't think was going to be game breaking.
>>
>>164548664
She costs 9 anon
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Daria would be better designed if she were a 7PP 5/5, Fanfare: Banish all cards in your hand. Draw 5 cards and then spellboost the cards in your hand 0 times, Spellboost: Spellboost the cards in your hand by 1 more.
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Daria main here

Daria is perfectly balanced just get good shitter I lose all the time.
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Man, Ramp Sahaquiel is really fun
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Railgun just OTK 20 damage with 3 roaches.

HOLY SHITTTTTTTT
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>>164548664
That's really bullshit. Unless you're dragon, you can't even drop a minion that can trade for her.
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>>164548689
>All it can do are play gimmicky aggro decks which lose to Haven.
Senpai all aggro decks except Banner Sword lose to haven
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Are we allowed to post for deck advice here?
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>>164548807
But Bahamut is a neutral card anon
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>>164548753
>tfw crafted shitty Daria instead of Wizard Dragon
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How do I Aggro Shadow?
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>>164548162
Nobody said it would be broken besides people who are shit at theory crafting. It would've been good if it just counted down amulets instead of destroying them though.
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>>164548534
>WotF
>8 dmg max spread 4 followers
okay.
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>>164548767
no she costs zero because clarke and craig exist.
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>>164548582
What the fuck
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This "Thank you" the gg of japan?
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>>164548405
Far left is draw and ding dong if you couldn't tell. Yes, hares and sentinels are bad unless you are memeing with eidolon.
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https://twitter.com/Rkzyoku/status/816248855540813824

>People here thought Demonic Strike and DoD had no place in Daria
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>>164548767
There's no such thing in rune.
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>>164548853
>8 damage spread over 4 2/2 followers

Sounds pretty much like a board clear to me.
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>>164548841
Go face and stop playing stupid shit like Death's Breath. Also use Tenacious Ghost, don't fucking use Skeleton Knight.
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>>164548841
See >>164546314
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>>164548512
>Why do people have trouble with Daria decks? Just plop down a Lucifer and she can't do shit about it most of the time.
lucifer alone doesn't do enough, a sahaquiel package that includes lucifer is a good start to defending against daria but is grotesquely expensive, and while you can use this route to get a good matchup against daria you drop too many other matchups to be anything more than low tier

> Lucifer is also good against aggro bats assuming you can stabilize.
perfectly spherical cow
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>>164548841
Just don't. Play Storm Haven or Daria
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>>164548710
>No current decks kill you by then
literally any unga aggro deck which is all that's played right now, just stop posting d shitter your opinion does not matter.
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>>164548710
Decks that can't kill you before then can remove it.
He's slow and unreliable.
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>>164548753
I don't know what cards go in those aside from a few key cards. I don't want to use the portal because I imagine quite a bit of the community uses the portal and I don't know the game well enough to deviate from others' decklists yet.
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>>164548835
I mean big minions involving evolve trades.
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>>164548902
So you're playing against a daria and hoping for the 5% chance they get nothing except conjured golems instead of multiple free oglers and another 6 drop because their daria was free too?
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>>164546314
They just want a martyr!
A statue to raise!
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>>164548753
>Silverbolt Forest
Its no meme!
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>>164548582
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>>164548902
Daria + ogler alone is 9 hp
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>>164548753
>Nep Shadow
Stop

>>164548980
>10/10 Reaper
Damn nigga you win the prize. Mind posting your deck so I can compare to >>164546659

I ran Goblin Mage in the past, I actually like her, I've just been experimenting with so many different things.
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>>164548876

>Not memeing with Eidolon
>Current year
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>>164548652
Masters is literally just people memeing, or is DShift not a piece of shit deck just because it had a low ladder winrate?

Also you forget that Haven literally hard-counters Daria and Dragon destroys its flood with BotS. If Daria doesn't draw Darias or Clarks then the game is basically over, pretty much the ONLY thing that makes the deck good is the Levi evo + Piercing Rune synergy which is a problem with Rune as a whole.
>it's brainless and free win
>you just can't pilot it
You can only pick one retard
>implying you're even Masters to be talking about Masters
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>>164549026
Yeah but the 2/2 followers are far more common. There are only 3 Oglers in the deck and you almost never get to play 3 Darias.
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Just did like 7 face damage on one turn with Vamp Fortresses.

Why are these things supposed to be bad again?
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>>164548778
She would be unplayable
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>>164549007
You're like toilet now, Arisafags.
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>>164549113
Because they're highly situational, which is why you just run two.
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Why the fuck do people keep saying bots beats daria when it's a 2 damage aoe? Do they never consider anything except Daria getting the worst possible draw?
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>>164549130

GOOD
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>Play Daria
>Queue into Control Blood, Elana Seraph, Control Sword and Roach.dec

>Play DShift
>Queue into Aggro Bats, Face Dragon, Banner Memes

I just want my fucking flair so I can stop playing Rune already jfc
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>>164549165
Because I got two fully charged crystals on the field
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>Brick super fucking hard with Daria
>Fucking crush discard dragon on turn 6

h-hear
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guys, what's better -

khawy - 3
lord of flies - 2
mordekai - 1

khawy - 2
lord of flies - 3
mordekai - 1

khawy - 3
lord of flies - 3

mid range necro
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>>164549145
What do you usually do for damage then?
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>>164549113
Very complex in usage and their placement in decks. Like this anon said: >>164549145

Generally two is the perfect number - and even then a bad draw can cause them to utterly brick your hand/board. 3 is even worse.

But when they work - they work really fucking well for face damage and board presence
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>>164548910
>while you can use this route to get a good matchup against daria you drop too many other matchups to be anything more than low tier
Other matchups such as what? I've yet to find one that seems like a hard counter. It beats seraph, lesser aggro decks such as storm haven, and so forth.

>>164548930
>literally any unga aggro deck
I've yet to lose to one.

>just stop posting d shitter
Currently A0, but I haven't actually lost a game since I started experimenting with Lucifer. I'll likely be at AA in under a week, at which point the test will truly begin.

>>164548949
>Decks that can't kill you before then can remove it.
That's why I recommended Sahaquiel. She lets you get a free trade and some bonus healing out of him.
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>>164549145

Are they really though? I have like 20 cards in my deck that can proc them.
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>>164549306
3 Mordecai
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>>164549272
Sounds like you need to play some Dirtrune, anon.
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>>164549062
Been waiting for MAINTENANCE fampai, tomorrow will finally be the day of eidolon aggro memes.
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>>164548732
>Master isn't the whole representative as a whole
>Rank where most players actually knows their shit and how to play against other craft
>there are almost 20k master player currently before ROB
>small sample size
What did he mean by this? Just because not every master player record their win on shadowlog doesn't mean their statistics doesn't reflect a certain deck potential. If daria was a T2 deck, that guy must be a fucking god to actually get there playing rune.

>>164549090
>Masters is literally just people memeing
Of course there are people memeing in lower masters but it doesn't mean people in the higher master just memeing.I won't run into 10 daria in a row when I'm memeing with JO crystals currently in lower master.
>Implying i'm not even masters
Pic related
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>>164548978
they only have 3 oglers in their deck, and you don't need to full clear, you just need to take enough of the pressure off you to not lose critical amounts of life and then deal with the rest on later turns
i'm not saying WotF is an effective counter, I don't have proof of that, but if it performs anything like BotS in terms of cleaning up witchettes/craigs/etc it should be fine ish

>>164549165
we've seen what BotS with backup does to daria boards, instead of sitting around theorycrafting about hurr 2 damage doesn't kill oglers
it clears their biggest threat and all of the 2/2s they have. that's a meaningful tempo swing
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>>164549145
I use 3 and have had more success since I run Gobu. >>164547184
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>>164549165
BotS kills everything but Daria, Flame Destroyers (if Daria even runs those) and Oglers. It's going to clear most of the board and that's what you want, because having a large board is literally the only way that Daria wins.
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JO more bro, your crystal is still weak
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IT WORKS!

1 out of 6 games
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>>164549113
>Why are these things supposed to be bad again?
they are literally in the meta aggro blood, usually 2 sheets

>>164549359
not an option

firstly it's too late game for mid range imo

secondly i'm a poorfag who has 3 lotf and 2 khawy and can afford to buy one khawy but not 1-2 mordekais
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>>164548876
>forbidden ritual
Why?
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>>164549306
Third, Mordecai is too slow
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>>164549375

I've just been using it for Seraph memes, been working out pretty well so far. Only issue is that it dies to Themis.
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So every counter to Daria is literally hope she doesn't get a good hand or play Haven to themis her?
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>>164549385

>critical amounts of life

oh, so you mean any life whatsover?

because their reach with spells let's them need to only hit your face once with a follower left on board to evo.
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>>164549051
It's complete garbage and built entirely to pull off the meme. If you don't get a shadow reaper in mulligan + first four cards, you're fucked. But if you can pull the combo of 1 pt + 2 pt + chimera + double reapers into sexton + resentment, more power to you.

You'd be insane to play it in ranked.
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>>164549385
Doesn't clear flame destroyer. Doesn't prevent them from dropping Daria the next turn and reloading.
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IS the auto deck creator actually useful if you're just starting out?
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>>164549479
yeah, that's what i will do likely
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>>164549535
>their reach with spells let's them need to only hit your face once with a follower left on board to evo
run heals retard
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>>164549485
yes, what's wrong with that?
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>play daria turn 6
>get 3 angelic snipes and 2 conjured golems

this card is garbage get good shitlords
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>>164549462
playing it on turn 3 wipes the enemy board and stops them from playing another card unless they want to play a naked fencer or something. Later on you can combo it with trades and an amulet break for a pseudo themis.
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>>164549549
i guess no

also making a deck is half of the fun, i mean you netdeck but you also adapt it for yourself (netdecks have a few versions of the same meta deck) and your cards that you have, playtest it, it's a lot of fun
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How come no one ever waifus Imp Lancer?
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>>164549549
No it just picks random cards
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>>164549381
>>there are almost 20k master player currently before ROB
Huh, that's more than I expected actually. Moreover I'm not arguing that Daria is a bad deck, although I don't think it's so much a Daria issue as much as a Levi and Piercing being fucking broken issue. That said people constantly drop BUT MASTERS and appeal to authority is something that people never stop that never stops irritating me.

>>164549306
Mordecai is useless, stop playing it.

>>164549541
Damn son you went all in. I very well could though, I just came out of 2 ranked games with Eidolon Haven. I went 1-1
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>>164549485
No, it's
>ward up
>remove their shit
>heal
>play AoE on turn 6
>win
You're acting as if you can't play followers on turns 1-4 where Daria barely does anything most of the time.
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>>164549575
What heals does anyone besides Haven, Forest and Blood(jokes) have beyond Unica?
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Aaaah, it was a hard-fought back-and-forth match but, my Flute Roar deck takes another win.

He was a good sport and didn't disconnect, I'll give him that.
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>>164549695
Control Blood has a shitton of heals and does well against Daria Rune
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>>164549651
because no one can accommodate their massive schlonger
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>>164549690
You mean when they play Levi and clear the board?
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>>164549549
It isn't. Try and make a few decks yourself, then ask us what you could change to make them better while being budget/small cardpool.

Also play the story if not already done, it gives exclusive cards
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>>164549485
Daria here, I don't mind going up against Haven unless I get a bad hand because Themis is 6 mana and basically stops any Haven momentum for a turn, whereas I can fill up the board almost instantly by simply drawing Daria. The only reason I'd be concerned is if I get a shit hand, which is the same condition as for facing any deck.
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>>164549113
Because it's hard to unga bunga with complex fortress calculation. No trade go face is easier than thinking man's aggro.
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i wonder why shadowcraft players didn't change their skeleton knights for gourment emperors yet

like it looks so much better imo, unless i miss something
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>>164549721
Just play your own broken 4-drop and clear the board back
Fuck play shit like Monika or Teena they work just as well if you go first
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>hurr just play board clear against Daria!
>he plays Daria and drops an entire board of followers
>play Calamitous
>he drops another Daria and another board of followers
>play Calamitous
>he drops ANOTHER FUCKING DARIA
>concede
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>>164549674
It is a Daria issue. They should make her 6/3 evolving into 7/4
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>>164549771
Haven't seen a Skeleton Knight since RoB. Try getting to higher ranks.
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>>164549695
Shadow runs Khawy
Dirtrune runs Veteran Alch or Timeless Witch
CSword goes above and beyond rational numbers of Wards such that healing beyond neutral options are not necessary against the meta
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>>164549781
>not having a third calamitous
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>>164549778

Difference between Levi and my own 4-drop is that they get to do other shit during their turn, or if my board is weak enough to ignore, they can just hold onto the sorcery.

Levi is unarguably the strongest evo-abuser in the game.
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>>164549781
Take the face damage and then take the board
Daria is basically out of steam by the time the 2nd Daria is played
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>>164549727
>Daria here
post tits!

>>164549816
well even the fresh netdecks are full of them
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>tfw Albert works perfectly in Banner in place of Avant
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>>164549875
Your netdeck source must be terrible then
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>>164549875
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>>164549771
because carrot costs pp to play
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>>164549674
I'm not trying to belittle lower rank player abilities to pilot a certain deck. But if you look on their statistics i.e dragon before DE, it has below 50% winrate at lower rank while 50% in masters. Same goes to elf currently, it has lower winrate in AA and below but above 50% winrate in masters. Regarding Daria, Levi + piercing is really op but superman is also fucking busted since it spellboosts all followers on your hand 2x. It allows you to drop witchette on turn 3 and oggler as early on turn 4 if you have insight/snipe, into magic missile/summon golem/kaleido.
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Anyone mind conceding for me?
match id:76086
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Haven is the most unfun class to play against
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So what is this card supposed to be a hard counter for havens and runes?
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>>164549547
as long as we're in magical christmasland and they had the kind of opening draw luck that lets them drop flame destroyer on the same turn as their board puke, we might as well assume that you had a blazing breath or a minion left on board to make BotS lethal on the destroyer. they're both about as (un)likely

daria into more board puke immediately following the first wave is more common than flame destroyer lines, and yes we can admit that it's near-insurmountable, but play out games against daria. Most of the time that doesn't happen, they either don't have the daria for another turn or their daria wheels into piercing runes and clarkes, and that one turn reprieve is all you need
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>>164549771
>i wonder why shadowcraft players didn't change their skeleton knights for gourment emperors yet
Because Skeleton Knight is fucking shit and the only 3 drop creatures worth running in aggro are Tenacious Ghost and Rabbit Necromancer. I am entertaining the idea of running it alongside Shadow Reaper but the reliability of Tenacious Ghost is too great to pass up. I'd go as far as to say that it's the best 3 mana creature in the class. I don't like the idea of Khaiza because I'm not fucking paying 2 mana for carrots every turn.

>>164549781
I beat Daria by just outracing them. They generally have to nutdraw in order to stop me and it helps that where I'm at people likely playing horribly unoptimized decks that brick on a constant basis.

>>164549909
This was a pretty obvious conclusion, not sure why it's coming as a surprise to anyone.
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>>164549971
Where can I find deck winrates?
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why the pre-built heaven deck is such a joke?

you get a fucking alt art jeanne which is:

a) useless

b) can't be fucking dusted

literally for what purpose, when they could give alt art to another good legendary and let us dust jeanne

it also doesn't even includes a copy of elana
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>>164549980
Thanks Vampy!
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>>164550023
Go to shadowlog, google translate, click the deck that you want to check below at the table. There are options on the top panel to check their winrate at certain ranks or overall.
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>>164549924
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>>164550021
>Because Skeleton Knight is fucking shit and the only 3 drop creatures worth running in aggro are Tenacious Ghost and Rabbit Necromancer.

well, i was taking about mid range

tenacious ghost sounds as a good idea though

i personally don't really like necroass and hell unleashers/attendants of nights which she should kill, i mean, what if you get her late game when you have your bugfu or cerberus on the board
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What deck allows me to take advantage of this duck?
>>
Is Ghoul's Banquet a good card? I've pulled like two of them from my past two packs
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>>164550021
I realize it doesnt fit into aggro as well, but Attendant is probably the best 3 drop in Shadow now.
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>>164550198

Sword
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>>164550198
Sword because Cyclone Blade.
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>>164549909
>Banner
>in place of Avant

What?
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>>164544707
>sexton
>implying he isn't just a basic 2/2 most of the time
There are so few cases where his effect actually benefits me most of the time. I'll either have him in play or hand without any last word cards ghosts or vice versa, or he ends up getting killed when I'm forced to play him on curve on turn 2.
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>>164549759

I mean that's like 9 face damage right there and surely won you the game. These things are amazing and I will always run three.
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How are the chance of 3 starting hand like this?
Because i just turn1 conceded 3 times in row for this exactly starting hand
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>>164549459
>they are literally in the meta aggro blood, usually 2 sheets

But why not run three of such an amazing card?
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>>164550307
i dunno, i saw a deck with 3 too
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>>164549313

I dunno I've had as lot of situations like

>>164549759

where the fortresses have literally won me the game, and very rarely does it brick me. I'm gonna stick with three DESU but I appreciate the explanation of the current meta nonetheless.
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>>164550283
You have 14 damage in that hand already. git gud
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>>164550283

Incredibly low. I assume you hard mulligan'd all three cards each time because you didnt get a one drop?
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>>164550259

>he doesn't even help with the haven matchup
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>>164549971
Alright, fair enough. As for the Daria thing I feel like the only time I lose is if they pull out 2 or more Levis. That card is ridiculous.

>>164550186
>what if you get her late game when you have your bugfu or cerberus on the board
That's not an idea I've ever really entertained. Seeing as how Lord of the Flies spawns shit infinitely though if you have a Velicous Beetle or something you can probably just afford to kill it.

>>164550227
I disagree because Attendant is a total non-threat and waste of board space unless you can pop it.

>>164550259
I actually agree. I've gone full circle with Sexton saying that he wouldn't really matter much initially, and he doesn't, to liking him for the occasional silly shit that I can do with him with Reaper, to not caring again. He's such a whatever card and anyone that thought that he would "save Shadow" completely misunderstood why Haven beats Shadow.
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>>164550307
it's just burn, sure it makes tokens but it's usually going to be lower impact than a summon bloodkin which isn't exactly the world's best pushed 2 drop, and not everyone wants the same burn-to-creatures ratio in their aggro deck. It's nice to be able to fight for board.
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>>164550307
It's a reliant card and you typically don't want it on curve. Seeing a single copy when you have the pieces in hand is usually all you need, any more can easily go dead if you're missing enablers.
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>>164550230
>>164550236
kek'd

I'll see if i can make a neutral meme deck for swordcraft and post it here
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>>164550397

>if they pull out 2 or more Levis.

Wait, that isn't normal?

I swear every match has been like that, I'm just no longer angry when they get all 3 going 2nd. Just tired.
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>>164550403
>It's nice to be able to fight for board.

Why should I fight for board unless they put a ward up?
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Why not run Beast Dominator instead of Mastema for aggroblood?
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>>164549909
What?
Why do you add more commanders in banner?
there is no point
>>
How many wins does it usually take to get to AA0 and Masters? I'm at 360 and still in A2.
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>>164550518
Beast Dominator loses attack and deals damage to yourself. While Mastema doesn't suffer from those things and has Bane.
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>>164550518
The first turn you get to attack with Dom, it's a 4/6. Mastema stays a 6/6.
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>>164550513

so you don't eat bad trades?

we're not talking taking your evo'd unit off their face.

just using a bat to clean something up.
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>>164550518
it sounds as a masochistic card

>>164550537
face dragon

can be made cheaper without forte (3 x seabrand dragons then) and dragonewt scholar
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>>164550537
>1 emissary

That deck is complete shit.
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>>164550396
>>164550397
>go up against haven
>don't have sexton in hand
>blow through your entire last word/ghost cards
>you draw 3 sextons
FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU
Honestly, if sexton gave the buff to all cards in your hand when you play him, he would be so much fucking better.
I'm still pissed about wight vs yurius. I want to make wight work but 2/1 is really shit when yurius gets 1/3.
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>tfw enemy quits before I lethal them
The thought of them hurriedly pressing the Quit button is adorable.
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>>164550546
He has Storm and can dish out shitton of damage with Enhance, a perfect 1-of.
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>>164550392
I mulligan each time, started with 1 Imp and 2 Mastema in that match and turn1 Mastema again
>>164550382
Good luck proccing both fort without nothing to use on curve
>>164550307
Because it's your win more card, you don't play it on curve unless you are sure to trigger it
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JO crystals beats bannermeme
inb4 >followers
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>>164550619
thanks anon
every time i look at dragon decks they start with 3x forte and it's intimidating
i'll start with 3/1 seabrand/forte and see how it plays
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WE FUCKING DID IT BOYS

J O C R Y S T A L
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>>164550593

Me go face
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>>164550438
How does this deck look like?
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>>164550397
>unless you can pop it

Thats why 25% of your deck is dedicating to popping it. Ive never had a situation where I didnt have a way to pop attendant on T4.
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>>164550690
but still, i think it messes up leader maid purpose
What if you want banner and she pulls of albert? then you're pretty much fucked
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18 pp for dshift is ridiculous, it should be much less, 10 max
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>>164550801
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Destroyer vs Runeblade in Daria Turbo?
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Is there a Dragoncraft deck that use Dragonflute or is it dust material?
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>>164550693
>started with 1 Imp and 2 Mastema in that match and turn1 Mastema again
Cut mastema. It's fucking trash. Way too chunky, awful at pushing face damage, most likely going to 2-for-1 your opponent and do nothing else which is not the kind of game you want to be playing as an aggro deck. Swap them for a more consistent early game.
If you're running 3 Imp Lancer that's also dumb, go down to 2
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>>164550685
The problem with the Haven matchup, again, isn't the banishes, it's the fucking healing. Storm Haven is a completely fair and winnable matchup for Aggro Shadow. Elana focused Haven decks are a lost cause to play against.

>>164550794
I'd rather just go face. I think being able to reliably output damage is more valuable than maybe getting a Lich off and hoping it makes it through the turn.
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>>164550841

Destroyer what the fuck
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>>164550841
Neither for Daria.
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>>164550841
run DoD and demonic strike instead
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>>164550720
Disgusting, you are no true JO believer
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What if JO crystal was global
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>>164550954
What if Karthus ult was global?
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>>164550889
The banishes aren't the problem but it just makes it worse.
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Does anyone have a dragon wizard deck that works? The one earlier in the general has me at 0 out of 5 and none of the fights were close
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>>164550796
He still gives out some face damage which is what Banner needs anyway.
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>>164550992
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>>164550841

Demonic Strike and DoD instead of either
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>>164551014
i think it should have forte
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>>164550862
I get huge winstreaks with this deck
Terrible bricking happens
And Mastema is fucking good
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>>164551051
It does have Forte and Forte sucks ass in it
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I wish they would have given every class good cards with synergy. Instead we have sword only swapping out for Albert because of raw stats and forest is adding in gobbo and Feena because fuck every new forest card.

Meanwhile rune got nothing except synergy to amplify their already strong cards
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>>164551014
Are you sure you're charging your crystal properly?
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>>164551027
Can you post your deck?
im a little unsure if keeping cyclone blade in banner is a good idea (it might be usefull against daria)
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>>164551042
>>164550929
>>164550927
So is it because they're too slow or is it because they're win more and unnecessary?
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>>164551014

>he thinks that the ultimate meme is supposed to be competitive

For me, the fun with the deck isn't the gameplay or competitiveness, it's laughing like an idiot for that one game where you get the draws at the right time and win.
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Can Forest be actually viable in this meta?
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>>164551057
Mastema should've been a loli
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>lost to jerkoff pendant with an aggro deck

enough with this shit
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JO mems aside, any opinions with my deck? 3 ivory dragons and goblins not on the screen.
Got a 14 win streak with this but I feel like this won't work on B0++
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>When you trying your hardest not to activate the opponents vengeance
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>>164550862
>2 imp lancer
opinion discarded
Storm Blood is legitimately the best deck in the game and 3 is a must, you need her to close games. If you'r ebricking because you pulled 3, that's bad luck, that is all.

Also Mastema is fucking awesome and paves the way to a guaranteed successful Imp Lancer.
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>>164551057
yeah, i get huge winstreaks with the bog standard netdeck too, and i get them better when i stopped making the wrong choices for the last 2 slots in the deck
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>>164551219

>followers

heretic.

that said, try out imprisoned dragon and dragon warrior. Imprisoned is good for defending mushy and dragon warrior swings the field for you.
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>>164551165
No. Daria does exactly the same shit as forest but better while everyone is starting to tech up against Daria which makes forest even worse at the same.

Forest didn't get shit in this expansion so their only option is praying for a 15 damage roach combo that happens 1% of the time.
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do you think lurching corpse is really better than spartoi sergeant for mid range? it rather looks as some control stuff
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>>164551149
They're way too slow. It's the same reason you don't see a D-Shift/Daria hybrid out there, if you get both and have to play Daria, well, there go your wincons
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>>164551281
>Wolfman
>succubus
>moriana
>SUREFIRE BULLEt
Rank and deck?
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Do you also get cards when buying a Leader like "Vania Set" or is it really just the leader picture?
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>>164551281
>well of destiny

Just kill him already, he doesnt even know what he's doing
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>>164551353
Emblem, sleeves and leader.
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>bahamut in dirtrune

Maybe Bahamut doesnt belong in every deck
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Piercing Rune should draw a card
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>>164551353

You can't put a price on loli
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>>164551323
Well, shit. Time to play bats or shadow I guess.
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>>164551396
KILL. YOUR. SELF. WITH. YOUR. SHITTY. BAIT.
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>>164551396

Piercing Rune should win the game for 0 Mana if you have an Ogler in play
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>>164551431
or daria she is the memest of all
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>>164551302
Mastema is something the opponent has to deal with, there is nothing wrong with running her
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>>164551396
Agree with this, if you go first it's basically worthless. Same with Levi, but at least he's not 4pp like Piercing Rune.
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>>164551380
Wait, you get emblem and sleeves too for buying leaders?
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>>164551332
Lurching Corpse into Necroassassin with evolve is a ridiculous tempo play that you dont want to give up. I personally run both in my midrange deck though.

Its also a nice 3pp kill a follower draw 2 cards in the late game when youre looking to finish off games with Howl.
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>playing control blood vs unga haven
>dude themis 2 turns in a row stalling the game out
> loses because im fucking control blood
ebic
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>>164551287
I've stuck in an alucard and a gilgamesh over 2 lancers, generally you wont run out of cards until that point and the extra point or two of damage could make a big difference.
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>>164551460
Or fuck that pseudo-Marisa. Lolis or nothing.
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>>164551147
https://shadowverse-portal.com/deckbuilder/create/2?hash=1.2.5-Hb2.5-Hb2.5-Hb2.625k2.625k2.65wcO.65wcO.5-HbC.5-HbC.5-HbC.625kg.625kg.625kg.628AI.628AI.628AI.628vA.628vA.65z2e.65z2e.5-HbM.5-HbM.5-HbM.625lI.625lI.625lI.65yJS.65yJS.5-K1I.5-K1I.5-K1I.5-KGw.5-KGw.5-KGw.659nE.659nE.69rKo.62BLa.62BLa.62BLa

It's pretty basic I think, the only tech choice in there is the Ninjas instead of Vanguard, since Vanguard is pretty useless later on and even early game he's not that good, while with the Ninja I can probably fish for some damage with Ambush.
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>>164551508
yes
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>>164551150
Fine, I guess that's on me. I come here asking for any sort of help at all with deckbuilding and this piece of shit deck is what I was left with.
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>>164551520
so, if you don't run necroassassin it doesn't worth it then
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>>164551351
>>164551359
Looks like take two.
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>>164551351
Just started playing so i dont have a rank atm
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>Beat Daria by playing JO crystals
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>>164551281
I feel like playing around Vengeance is almost always a mistake in practice. A lot of the time all it means is that they'll Razor Claw into it and you'll be missing out on damage.
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>>164551579
If you dont run Necro/Urd/Conversion its not worth it
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>>164551575

If you want to dragon, you're better off playing ramp.

If you want to control the field via spells, you should go dshift (even though their new lists have a couple of followers now.)
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>>164551575
what

you were memed hard

it's a deck invented today and is a pure meme

>>164551650
i see, ty

i prefer rabbits and also tenatious ghosts suggested me above, so i pick spartoi
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Wouldn't it make much more sense if Beast Dominator got +2 attack every turn, instead of -2?
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>>164551689
Then that means youre playing aggro
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>Levi and Rune

did cygames not playtest this shit?
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>>164551725
She'd be too good. Hell, Beast Dominator with the health loss but no attack penalty would probably be Blood staple.
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>>164551598
It wasnt but i still barely know what im doing
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>>164551743

It's not even a question of playtesting. It's just someone remembering that Levi is a card that existed when they made rune.
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>>164550580
Bane?
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What's a good aggro bat deck? It's about the only thing I can afford to make right now.
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This streamer is pretty based

https://www.twitch
.tv/k4sen
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>>164551564
I dont even put vanguard in anymore, i preffer having an extra conscription and ruthless assassin

also, i thought you threw more than one albert in the deck
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>>164551873
basically no matter how fat something is, it will die. Mastema can get past super buffed up ward followers Elana decks make nowadays.
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is nep finally out of maintenance?
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>>164551972
https://shadowverse.com/news/maintenance/news-0059
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>>164551972
tomorrow my friend, tomorrow
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>>164551972
In about 14 hours.
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>>164551916
>japanese
>why?
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Is there a huge difference in skill level between AAX and Masters?
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>>164551972
it's 2017 anon, wait until 2018
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>>164551916
>k4sen losing his shit since he keep queueing into daria
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>>164551474
5 mana is way too expensive for "something the opponent has to deal with", when they can just deal with it. Look at other 5+ drops that have been played in aggro. Imp lancer deals face damage even if it's dealt with. Avant player draws cards even if it's dealt with. Cerberus deals face even if it's dealt with, and is flexible. All mastema does is present a fat butt to make it harder to deal with and a fat attack to increase the payoff if your opponent can't deal with her. But mathematically, the rest of your deck is well tuned enough that you don't need that big of a payoff from your 5 drop and therefore don't need to be taking that big of a risk; you can do something with that flex slot that's more consistent but lower value.
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>>164551804
This won't do at all.
Go to collection, open Photoshop, and post all your Blood cards now.
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>>164551972
maybe nep will save us from this daria blood meme.
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>>164552061
yes, the AAX players are better

once you get to masters you just meme all day
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>>164551575
also if you want the cheapest dragon you can go face

>>164551730
not if i have khawy and lords of the flies!
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>>164551960
You still need as good of an early game as possible though and the 1-drops are vital for that reason.
>also, i thought you threw more than one albert in the deck
Like I said he's just an 1-of but not too bad if you pull him in place of banner, and he just wins you the game with that enhance.
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>>164552061

Masters are literal gods.

AA are subhuman trash.
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Haven here, how do I successfully get non-raped by Darias?

> just Themis dude

Yeah that's not exactly helpful against a full board in turn 4...
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>>164552091
I tuned in because I wanted to see this, but it's offline now?
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>>164552091

There's only so much Levi a man can take before they break.
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>>164552061
>Lower masters are people who just want to have fun since we are free from ladder anxiety
>Top masters are people that tryhard harder than your average AA shitters
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>>164552061
AA is tryhard netdeckers

Masters don't give a shit.
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What do I have to do to grind cards if I'm new?
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>>164552168
>khawy AND lord of the flies

As long as youre having fun I guess theres nothing wrong
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memes
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I'm really curious on how Nep will work out. When she grabs followers out of the deck, will it be in a series (From randomly starting from 1PP to 10PP), or it is totally random? Since placement can affect how some last words work out, especially with Khawy and Balor.
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>>164552168

Imagine getting a HJ with those hands.
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>>164552196
Run Scriptures, Temple Defenders, Cudgels, and you should be okay
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Reminder that literally everyone complaining about Daria is a sub-B rank shitter and needs to git gud
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>>164551783
Not when mastera exist and is better
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What is your opinion of this card? How many of you use her?
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This chinese streamer is doing pretty well with forest.
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>>164552262
what's wrong though? a netdeck which i modified suggested 2 balors, 2 lotf and 2 mordekais, i decided to run 3 khawy, 3 lotf instead
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>>164552196
full boards on turn 4 are extremely rare and make it likely that they don't have daria in hand. if you're not playing storm haven then cudgel, tribunal, ancient lion and themis and all your other removal and heal will wreck daria.
haven is as bad as a matchup for daria as bats is desu
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Reminder that Bat Aggro is the real cancer
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>>164552356
http://live.nicovideo.jp/watch/lv286773183

Another person playing Forest, he came Rank 6 last season.
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>>164551873
She a big girl.
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>>164552349
I run 2 in ramp

Its pretty decent
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>>164552204
He keep yelling cygames, cygames and it's funny to watch despite not understanding a single japanese

>>164552214
>Levi evo with piercing on turn 4, board full with oggler, witchette and daria next turn
I'd rather an elf wotf my followers or get smacked by oto with sage buff rather than knowing you already lose the game on turn 4.
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>>164552379
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Are there any Seraph decklists that use Eidolon? I pulled 2
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>>164551725
It would make more sense, but then her stats would have to get shifted and her quality reduced to bronze and they made that card in RoB, along with a "handicapped" gold version and great spell version of her.

She was fun pre-RoB, the effect rarely came into play since she'd spook people into dropping what they were doing to remove her right now or take 4-8 face damage. She's a bit cursed with being an early release card from before they find their feet and make interesting mechanic legendaries, which is a shame.
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>>164552196
Play another class that also shits out tons of minions like sword

Forest is okay too because of daria having no wards, bouncy tia and homecoming
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>>164552446
>Levi evo with piercing on turn 4, board full with oggler, witchette and daria next turn
that's literally not possible.
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>>164551725
They printed Brazen Demon this expansion with that effect.

Cygames realized they fucked up with BD so they printed Mastema as a replacement stat stick and stuck BD in a spell so she might see some play at least in arena.
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Dragon Rowen mod when?
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>>164551916
shadowverse has gotten much more popular on twitch after ROB came out. is it finally catching on in the west?
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Will Daria lose stats or just get her cost increased?
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>>164552319
Cuckgel is worse than Sledgehammer against Daria.

Scripture and Defenders work, just not enough... Am I just doomed to lose when they get a good hand?

Maybe I'll just go back to using Elana...
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>>164552472
Sword and Blood had pretty disappointing Standard legends. I mean, it's obvious that Sword's were very playable but they're all just pretty boring cards. As bad as Mythril Golem and Skullfane are, they really do scream "legendary".
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>>164552457

You have no right to say that when Yurius has been bullying me all night.
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>>164552113
This is mostly the reason she fits into midrange but not aggro.
She's a great card but not quite fast enough for aggro
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>>164552592
Nerf Levi instead.
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>>164552325
While I dont really mind Daria, it is annoying to face one with perfect draws. Daria into Daria back to back while spitting out 5 followers each turn is just frustrating.

Its just a deck that bricks more often than not, but occasionally RNG favors them and its a one sided match where what you play doesnt matter.
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I play timeworn mage levi and piercing rune, dealing 5 damage to your face and obliterating your board

your turn, /svg/
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>>164552513
>Insight, craig, clarke, levi burn, piercing.
>Your daria already cost 2 at turn 4
>Your oggler cost 0 exactly at turn 4
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Are you guys ready for the nep?
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>>164552592
She'll only boost followers 3-4 times, that way Ogler won't be a free draw.
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>>164552379
But at least it feels really good to drop the hammer on them
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>Dragoncraft players commend you when you outplay them
>Daria players (not runecraft in general though) always BMs when winning, disconnects when you win

Really makes you think
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>>164552513
Turn 5 Daria isn't a Christmasland combo anon. Turn 4 Daria is pretty specific but Turn 5 Daria will happen in most hands that open her.
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>>164552592
if they touch her it will probably be related to the card draw

for example, it could be based on how many cards you banish rather than always drawing 5

but i doubt they'll touch her, will probably go after cards like levi or piercing rune
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>>164552692

I concede
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>>164552149
This is the only blood cards i got
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>>164552692
Evolve my Blood Wolf and finish you off
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>>164552714
I already have all my decks primed for her. I want to meme god dammit.

>tfw had to craft all my Neps
>learn she was in maintenance
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>>164552728

What happened?
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>>164552714
I don't think she'll be that good, but I pulled 3 so I gotta try her out
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>>164552586
No. There just are way more chinese streamers than before.
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>>164552793
look at the hand m8
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>Daria is good
Can't even charge my crystals with that shit.
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>>164552686
Every deck is annoying to face with the perfect draws
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>>164552692
That's only two damage to face though, and only if you had a follower out for me to use piercing rune on.
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>>164552262
though you are probably right, 2 khawy 2 lotf and 2 cheaper followers will likely be better... for instance 2 charons... or 2 ceridwens... charons are likely better
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>>164552592
I don't expect any nerfs but I'd rather see her lose stats. I don't know what the hell they were measuring her against but 7/7 on evo makes her way too hard to reasonably deal with on her usual curve even before considering what else she brings out.
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>open 20 RoB packs
>Somehow get a playset of White wolf and eidolon
Why does the game want me to play memes?
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So it's true that Forest players can't count.
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>>164552812
Mage Dragon actually does pretty well against daria since they have no targets for their spells.
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>>164552902
Free vials senpai
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>>164552750
>no demonic storm

You didnt even do the story mode which give stable cards.

>no wolf
>no wraith
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>>164552810

Matriarch for 5 face damage?
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>>164552914
Its pretty funny. By the time they get the daria combos out you're already at the point you can deal with them
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>>164552696
yeah and how many fucking cards do you think you have at that point to be able to fill your board plus piercing rune levi plus daria. that's just not possible.
>>164552731
turn 5 daria does happen but it's often not even a good play because you can rarely dumb your hand and play her at the same time. dumping her plus having a full board on t5 plus levi and rune is a magical combo i haven't seen yet.

i play daria i know how she works.
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>>164552937
followed by bloody bond for 6 face

with a temptress to finish if he wasnt dead the next turn
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>getting fatigued by Control Sword
Man, fuck that fucking deck. The real reason Daria is the worst is because people stopped playing the Dshift chemo.
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>>164552932
>stable
its staple
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Is there any kind of reasonable elf deck I can make without any of the legendaries?
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>>164552592
I'd be fine if they just made her a 5/4 or 4/4. Then you wouldn't have to waste multiple cards and an evo on her.

or just nerf the Levi+Rune combo.
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>>164552937
An entire board wipe while they have 1 card in hand
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>>164552592
They didn't nerf midsword with 55% winrate. Why would you think they will nerf Daria with only 53% winrate? You people are so retarded sometimes.
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>>164552808
the western streamers also got more popular. envy has over 500 viewers now.
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>>164552750
Good cards
>Yurius
>Vania
>Razory
>Blood Pact
>Veight
>Dark General
>Night Horde
>Mastema
>Imp Lancer
>Temptress but too heavy for non-control

Playable
>Cursebrand
>Hungering Horde
>Killer Devil

Also go play Story, you don't even have Wardrobe Raider
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>>164553002
no. 3x AE or burst
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>>164552592
Indirect nerf, a new mechanic which destroys random cards still in the deck. She'll die due to running out of cards to draw.
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>>164552731
If they hard mulligan for Daria it's only a 15% chance that they even get her anon.
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>>164553035
This meta is pretty shit, I'll have to run a 100% ward deck by two weeks.
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soul conversion activates the last words, right?

>>164553070
>Playable
>>Cursebrand
>>Hungering Horde
>>Killer Devil
literally aggro blood core all 3
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Increase Darias cost to 11 and reduce the spellboost to 4.she just needs to be slowed down slightly so other classes can keep up with her instead of being able to dump her entire hand before other classes can even use their removal
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>Forest is dead
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>>164553121
er, didn't mean to quote
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>>164552592
She doesn't need a nerf.

The only Rune follower that needs a nerf is Levi, either make his evolve statline 3/3, make Crimson Sorcery deal 2 damage or both. Piercing Rune could also be increased to 2PP after an allied evolved.

Besides they didn't nerf Elana despite literally everyone screaming for Elana nerfs and it's still a stronger deck than Daria is now.
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>>164552969
>Implying your daria cannot draw into a bunch of oggler, blade mage and witchette
I drop daria couple of times on turn 4 and my opponent just concedes when I have board full with oggler and witchette. I play daria when the expac hits and have 10 winstreak with it in master, never touch it since then since I'm busy memeing.
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>>164553094
Anon you have a 27% chance to open up with a Daria running 3 if you mulligan nothing and go first. It hovers around 50% if you hard mull and go second.
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>>164553145
No.
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>>164553173
Post deck
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>>164553145
if a minion is destroyed, it triggers last words

if it's banished or transformed, it doesn't
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>>164553145
sorry 1st and second, blood needs another horde, night horde
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>>164552356
It's time for target practice
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>>164553145
Killer Devil isn't played anymore, also Hungering is suboptimal
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>>164553201
7/40 = 17.5
8/40 = 20

Not even a 25% chance anon, and even 27% is very low, barely even once out of every four games.
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>>164553208
It's from reddit
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>>164553145

Hungering horde in aggro blood?
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>>164553168
>reduce the spellboost to 4
You can't just put a cap on Spellboost, that's not how it works
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>>164553195
>Implying your daria cannot draw into a bunch of oggler, blade mage and witchette
yeah, you can get lucky but you should only do that if your hand is garbage. you don't want to rely on stories to tell your friends.
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What exactly is Wizard and JO Dragon? I don't come to /svg/ for a week and all of a sudden there's these new decks no one else refers to.
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https://my.mixtape.moe/ohlmei.webm

Forest mirror match is dumb
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>>164553173
Good job roaching those bastards and welcome to master. Also buy prebuilds for glorious soccermom.
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>>164553306
It looks like shit desu but I'll give it a try before dissing it.
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>>164553264

Why do people keep saying Killer Devil is unplayable? What can you even swap in for her. Don't say Veight or Soul Devil because I already run both.
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hm

it looks as a surprisingly good card
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>>164553306
I've seen decks close to this appearing on Twitter the past few days. In a few days from now, /svg/ will be complaining about it.
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>>164553295
You're not accounting for hypergeometry anon, punch it through a statistics calculator.
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>>164553360
Best waifu
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>gets bullied from runetits as a Forest
>switch to Vania
>queuing nothing but Daria
I don't give a fuck. Justice has been served and this is the sigh of it. I welcome another loli in my heart.
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>>164553356
Its a deck designed to drop ranks as fast as possible.

The main focus of the deck is passing your first 4 turns in an attempt to charge up your crystals to kill your opponent over 5 turns praying that they dont run a wincon in their deck
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>>164553435
Can I start whining about it already?

Fucking bouncing roaches, can't even kill them with spell because they go back to hand.

Maybe I'll start playing as forest... How does that deck do against Bitch Witch?
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>>164553378
likely gobu
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Is Mastema RoB Avant Blader of to put in deck or not?
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Quick, /svg/. Post your theorycraft nep deck. We are going to use her after all.
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>>164553356
Pendant memes.
Just once in your life, you need to drop Astaroth's Reckoning with Pendant on someone in Unranked.
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>>164553378
veight soul devil and goblin mage are the 3drop core of aggro blood iirc
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>>164553349
I'm not talking about stories bullshit here but your original argument is about whether you can fill your board with oggler and other shit and I already answer that. Regarding daria, you can always discard your hand when you're ahead (have an established board) since you don't want to draw into another copies of her.
>>
>>164553552
what
>>
>>164553552
youre drunk go to sleep anon
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>>164553520
Put up wards and you win. The only way the deck can win is off roach combos. That's basically why the deck is good right now since Dorothy doesn't use wards.
>>
take two, my opponent had both bahamut and olivia and also went second that was brutal
>>
Dshift Daria is ridiculously powerful
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>>164553557
>put nep and lastword cards
>put removal so you don't die before 8pp
ggez
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>>164553535
>>164553569

Damnit I guess I'll try the deck with Gobu.
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>>164553557
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>>164553604
I managed not to draw a single ward so i got roach raped, sadly.
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I have no idea if any of these are good. Should I keep them or reroll?
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>>164553683
It's a bit late to reroll now considering how long you must have had your account to get all those legos.
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>>164553495
>>164553568

Wait, what
Is it like some sort of DC pendant meme deck that just spams +1 dmg spells? The fuck? Does that even work, like, at all?
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>>164553683
Do you have a preferred deck? Those 3 Forte and Fafnir and Bahamut mean you're good to go with Dragon
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>>164553478
just switch to Daria anon. :^)
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>>164553683
dust fairy princess, erasmus golem jeanne and fafnir
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>>164553683
Reroll if it will stop you from shitposting.
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>hate Daria with a passion
>get 3 (THREE) fucking darias from packs, including an animated one
Stop implying things to me, game
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>>164553604
>Place wards
>gets pixie mischiefed
>roached to death with couple 0 cost gobbu, fairies and guidance combo.
>>
anyone have that fgg shaodwverse image?
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>>164553557
>>
>>164553520
Ancient Elf alone ruins Rune's entire day unless they run DoD
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>>164553557
This is what ill be trying on day 1, im sure its shit and needs work though.
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>>164553571
>you can always discard your hand
i find drawing into another daria is less bad than throwing away easy dmg cards like rune and blade mage.
and my argument included levi plus rune plus all that other shit because anon mentioned that that would be possible.
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>>164553764
>love Daria with a passion
>get 0 (ZERO) fucking darias from packs, not even an animated one

Can I have yours?
>>
>got 3 neps
>vialed all of them to craft albert and daria

I hope she's gonna be shit like Eidolon.
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>>164553683
Just keep it. You can play face dragon, ramp dragon, and Daria rune (If you craft 1 one).
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>>164553773
>fgg shaodwverse image
Fighting game general shadowverse image?
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>>164553764
same minus the animated one
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>>164553842
Yes, the one comparing SFV to SV.
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Currently 10/0 in masters with this deck. It's pretty fucking amazing
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>>164553789
I literally never played forest before but you're tempting me, anon.
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>>164553907
>only one duck
Justify this
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>tfw just BTFO a master cuck with taker of two flair in t2
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>tfw want to try some decks
>climbing anxiety and fear of losing progress
>sticking to safe deck even after have crafted cards
Anyone else like me?
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>open some jap stream
>guy summons a fairy and a roach, hits with the +2 roach and kills a follower, summons another roach, hits face with the +3 roach, removes the roach from the board, summons the roach again, hits face with the +6 roach, all on the same turn
>the enemy concedes

ok i guess...
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>70~ RoB packs later

What can I even do with these
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>>164553950
I don't think you can drop down in rank. Like you can't go from a1 -> a0 you just kind of lose your bar fill up. I really like that idea of you getting to plateaus that once you reach you don't fall down.

That took a lot of ladder anxiety away from me, and that it will be harder to actually get your monthly sleeve the higher you get, so enjoy the lower ranks for longer.
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>>164553950
Stick with one deck that you're comfortable with until you reach masters. After that, you can meme all the way you want unless they introduce another monthly rewards for top 1k.
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>>164553950
Even you lost just think of it as sandbagging
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>>164553950
nope

just recently made a meme deck in the middle of my rank, turns out it works pretty well

try caring less
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>>164554020
craft another matriarch and buy 3 precon blood dicks and make control blood
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>>164554034
You can lose number but not letters.
So you can drop from A1 to A0 but not from A0 to B3.
>>
What does JO stands for?
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>>164554034
you can go from A1 to A0, but you can't go from A0 to B3. number ranks can drop, letter ranks can't
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Can people post post-RoB Elana decks pls? I duno what to add/remove from the expac
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>>164553996
>roach is a busted card
news at 11
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Sup boys, started playing the game about a month ago. Had some success with mid sword. Crafted some sword legendaries but got tired of this nobrain shit pretty fast. How control swrod is doing now and is it more interesting and fun to play kind of deck? Did the deck list change since RoB launch?
>>
Is there such a thing as sun seraph?
>>
>>164554097
>>164554110
Oh okay, I was told you wouldn't lose rank, but that's still fine once you get out of a letter bracket.
>>
>>Forest shitters mad they can't just unga fairies and roach
>>Sword shitters mad they can't just unga in general
>>Daria shitters mad they can't just unga their meme card

Based Yurius, putting these shitters in their place.
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>>164554105
jack off
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>>164553306
Just tried this, IMO there's not enough card draw. I ran my deck dry before I could kill my opponent. On the other hand, I was up against Elana, so maybe it'll fare better against non-healing opponents.
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>>164554117

all decks are brainded, this is not MTG
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>>164552729
>>Daria players (not runecraft in general though) always BMs when winning, disconnects when you win
That's a Rune thing, not a Daria thing. Mostly D-Shift though.
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Your wife
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>>164554117
>>164554189
welcome to ungaverse
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>>164554117
sword isn't a great place to be if you're looking for fun, i think

their card draw and healing are horrible so you don't do a whole lot of thinking, you just kinda play minions

>>164554189
what is dirt rune
>>
oh boy, when people start seeing these fucking haven decks...

let's keep bitching about bats for another few days before i get double cancer
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>>164553950
>used to get ladder anxiety
>now i just get immense rage and turn 1 concedes
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>>164554189
>tfw mtg players are too intelligent for sv
>>
>>164554210
who?
>>
>>164554201
>dude i'm just going to play my dimension shifts and shuffle through my deck for 5 minutes instead of lethaling you
>>
>>164554185
Roach deck does poorly against decks with ward/heal
>>
Why doesn't Daria Rune run Rimewind?
>>
>>164554117
Some stuff I added to CSword since RoB: Albert, Bahamut, Cyclone Blade, Goblinbreaker Teena

Amelia, Jeno and Blitz Lancer are also worth considering
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>>164554361
meifu doroshii does
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>>164554361
because everybody just copies the same exact decklist
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>>164553950
Nope, I'll play fucking anything in ranked at least once.
>>
>>164554201
> disconnects when you win
For some reason the people that disconnect the most, when I'm going to win anyway, have been shadow players with the skeleton hero
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>>164553950
Rolling with your losses is an important skill for surviving the vicious world of card games.
>>
Nothing feels better than getting the last 1 damage with Ambling Wraith to win the game.

Well-faced Dariashitter.
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I just started playing recently, and what do I spend my gold on? Which packs do I prioritize?
>>
>>164554442
>unga blood
>>
>>164554361
because rimewind is a bad card
there are plenty of people running bad versions of daria rune though, so you can find an example with rimewind here http://xn--shadowverse-e63t796khk9bk11e.com/%E3%83%87%E3%83%83%E3%82%AD/%E3%80%90%E3%82%B7%E3%83%A3%E3%83%89%E3%82%A6%E3%83%90%E3%83%BC%E3%82%B9%E3%80%91%E6%96%B0%E7%92%B0%E5%A2%83%E3%83%88%E3%83%83%E3%83%97%EF%BC%81%EF%BC%9F%E3%82%81%E3%82%93%E3%81%BE%E5%BC%8F%E3%83%86/
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>>164554502

You can't bunga the unga.
>>
>>164553306
>3x daughterwife cat

okay I'll try it
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>>164554502
>unga
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>>164554502
Every deck is unga
>>
Is any decklist running Pascale? I want to know if I can dust her
>>
For a beginner wanting to climb ranked and learn the game, would midrange sword or a Dshift deck be better? What about this daria deck ive been hearing about?
>>
>>164554495
for new players, standard packs are usually the best way to go, every deck has legendaries and golds from it (plus there are just more cards than the other two)

do arena rather than buying raw packs if you can consistently pull 3-2 or higher, saves gold

once you start getting a good collection going, you can do some pattern such as 3 standard, 1 darkness, 1 bahamut, repeat
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>>164553306
>try this earlier today
>Winstreak x3
>then go against 6 Control Swords in a row

I refuse to believe he climbed with this

the deck literally has no answer to frontguard general or taunts in general
>>
>>164554580
I'd say banner or midrange sword is good for beginners. The Daria deck focuses on a Bahamut leggo, Dimensional Witch Daria, basically it involves putting it and a bunch of other spellboost-able followers (usually the ones that get their costs reduced and are cheap) and flooding the board with moderately hard to kill followers, slowly whittling down the opponent
From what I understand anyway
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>>164554580
Just make a aggro blood
Why learn the game?
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>>164554502
name a three things that require thought in this game that isn't vengeance or roach math
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>rank up games
>it's just people conceding to me
Critical "trial" my ass
>>
>>164554580
Sword is best for beginners, but you're gonna want to play Aggro Blood and Tempo Rune if you want to climb once you reach A.
>>
What counters all the aggro shit I'm running into?
>>
>>164554679
Not him, but Dshift, Daria Rune, and Haven's countdown amulets if you have speedup cards
>>
http://game-ai.jp/22336/

And here it is, can't wait.
>>
>>164554679
JO Dragon of course
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>>164554654
If the game goes past turn 6 you lost, frontline general is way out of your range.
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What should I choose? Neither side seems very stellar desu.
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>>164554705
Wards (stuff like goblinmount). and stuff that can mass-clear things (breath of the salamander, themis, Lucius the goblin slayer)
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>>164554580
if you're new to card games in general mid sword (or more realistically banner sword) is the way to go. it'll teach you good trading and is simple to pick up. Dshift is more complex to play and Daria is a bit facerolly at times so you probably won't get as much out of them as a beginner. they are definitely strong though
>>
>>164554795
what are you talking about, right is fantastic
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>>164554795
right is great
>>
>>164554795
>Deathly Tyrant
>>
>>164554795
right easy
>>
>>164554845
>>164554851
Alright, right it is. I know Howl is good but not very fond of Odin.
>>
>>164554783
yeah bro them goblins and water fairies are going to win you the game on turn 5!

or rhino's 7 damage with evo
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>>164554580
I'm new to the game too and I'm undefeated with a crappy shadowcraft deck I've thrown together. It really doesn't matter what you play in the shitter ranks
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>>164554795

Wight King is okay, but I will probably go right.

Anyway, new bread

>>164554891
>>164554891
>>164554891
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>>164554653
>every deck has legendaries and golds from it (plus there are just more cards than the other two)
plenty of decks have legendaries and golds from DE/RoB too, and more cards isn't a good thing
I did the numbers on the value of packs (for myself) accounting for the greater value of playable cards, and RoB packs are worth a bit more than 200 vials each compared to standard packs. And I do not exactly have an exhaustive standard collection. I mean, sure, for new players, buy standard packs, but because of all the junk in the standard set and all the standard pack tickets you'll get from arenas and dailies, the rotation once you get a collection going should not be anything like 3:1:1 in favor of standard. 1:3:3 would be a better heuristic, and even then... there are a huge number of garbage golds in the standard set.
>>
>dragon cuck drops 2x pheonix roosts
>seraph and win instantly
Why do dragons run that stupid card, it just fucks them in the ass.
>>
>>164554886
>not very fond of perfect removal that doesn't trigger last words and gives you a free 4/3
who are you
>>
>>164554935
it depends on the deck you're playing, but standard has a lot of legendaries that are difficult to pass up

cerberus is in all shadowcraft decks, forte is in many dragon decks, ancient elf and tia for forest, etc. and you generally need more than one of them too
>>
Is there even a point to sahaquiel right now other than comboing with lucifer? Seems like the kind of card thats pretty dead until another expansion gives it life
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>>164555070
>tia
>standard

Hmm
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>>164554745
eh i've had more success with a different forest type of deck in aa and higher. climbing pretty fast

also haven shits on that
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>>164554254
>oh boy, when people start seeing these fucking haven decks...

I haven't seen Haven in ranked since maybe 20 matches.
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>>164557240
what rank?
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>>164557265
A2.

It's all Darias and Blood and some Dragon meme.
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