/agdg/ - Amateur Game Dev General

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https://clyp.it/wvx54tjp

I'm having way too much with this melody.

Good morning, agdg. 4 more days until Demo Day 12.
Are you ready?

Good luck with your games anons!

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>>164430983
>>164431057
>Is there a reason you decided to do away with the pure black and white style and go for a tinted look? I liked how the B&W stuff reminded me of old Mac classic era games.
>Either way nice to see you making progress.
Both the color palettes and the shitty CRT filter are optional and turned off by default

>>164467094
Being so inept at anything concerning sound infuriates and depresses me to the point of wanting to drop it all.

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>>164467138
I'm an occasional lurker in these threads and keep seeing screenshots from your kickass project but don't know the name of it. Got a twitter or something I can follow so I can know when I can play it ASAP?

>>164467269
new demo will be availabe here:
https://itch.io/jam/agdg-demo-day-12

and my devblog
http://desertgame.tumblr.com/

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The internet went off when I made that post with the cave, but now it's back. Also here's some progress with the energy crystal doritos.

>>164312532
Not really a problem since I could just swap the characters if I ever want to use it as a game of my own.

>>164312663
Exactly. It has much room for improvement and I think it would be interesting to have a actual remake of it as a 3d game. Also because the music and remixes of it are really good.

>>164328993
You mean the animations? I'll try to fix it a bit later. The gameplay is going to be a bit different since aiming at targets is a little more trickier to do in 3d than in 2d. Also, here's a close up of Quote. I know it's not good, but I'll fix him eventually.

///////////!!!!!!!\\\\\\\\\\\

If you did ludum dare, post you're game

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tfw accidentally post wrong webm.

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>>164467556
http://ludumdare.com/compo/ludum-dare-37/?action=preview&uid=109807

Posted it in the previous thread right after this one was created.

Got shitty scores but I'm not surprised, I could have done a lot better

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Hey Bonelord Dev! Fix your game!

>>164467191
Don't worry, sound is a difficult thing. It's often overlooked, devs always focus on just the coding and the art aspects, but the sound and music of a game is just as big as those other aspects.

I use freesound.org and bfxr to get some placeholder sounds. I have never been able to make good music though, so I try to find some free music online that I can use and just credit them.

>>164467789
>1022
>not a full M(ega)B(one)

>>164467465
you are probably fine as long as you give proper attribution and arent selling it

if you used no original assets you could probably even sell it in small quantities at events like komike

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Here's some progress. I have been slow at writing dialogue.

>>164467094
I wont be ready

>>164467094
I don't even participate, you'll get a demo when I damn well feel like it.

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now the game has some context. i'll start working on the levels today, not sure how many i'll be able to finish for demo day.

>>164469020
It reminds me a lot about Papers Please, but i like it.

>>164467090
Has a pretty solid late evening feel to it. I like it.

>>164467673
How much work the idea guys did? And no artistic licens , give me the actual reality

>>164420314
The griffin looks more like an enemy than a main character
I thought you would play as that guy fighting griffins in a victorian style city
Why do you disappoint me

What game genres would you be able to get away with using only cubes/boxes for your art without any animations?

>>164469719
puzzle games.

>>164469719
Unless you have mad talent you can apply to a niche to complement the cubes, none.
Start studying

>>164467874
Not thinking in selling it, but making the particle assets myself is a pretty good ideia. I'll be working on it and see if it looks better.

>>164461115
jesus christ just learn 3d rendering already instead of going full retard with the 2d pixel shit

>>164470098
>mad enough to post in both threads
What has 2D done to you?

if 2d is so great why don't I have a game?

>>164470387
2d is fucking shit you have to draw everything by hand (unless you use rendered sprites which is ridiculous too) and it looks like shit and the medium is limited since you can pretty much only do side scroller or birds eye view (both of which you can do with 3d graphics anyway)

if 3d is so great why don't I have a game?

>>164470506
because you suck

So does Game Maker have any plans whatsoever to add 2D vectors as a data structure, or is it still living in 1990?

>>164470475
Have fun making 3D faces that don't look like utter shite.

>>164470546
all the shit tier "game engines" are jewing you big league, if you have any idea what you're doing you can make something better than what game maker is doing

>>164470598
>if you have any idea what you're doing
Guess what. That's exactly the reason people use engines aimed at amateurs. Because they are amateurs. They just like want to make gaem, not build an engine that does the same as those already available but worse.

>>164470546
Yet another reason Godot is better than GM.

>>164470578
even AAA games use helmets/masks or cartoony faces a lot, and you can use various techniques like scanning actual faces and doing mocap animations, if you get decent skin and eyes etc (doesn't even have to be realistic) you should be fine

>>164470598
>all the shit tier "game engines" are jewing you big league

So which are the "game engines" that are not shit tier?

>>164470779
the "top-tier" publicly available engines like UE4, cryengine, and to some extent unity can have their uses, like if you just want some generic shooter game or something, that's what those engines are made for, but things like game maker and rpg maker are super amateur and not for serious game dev studios

>>164470779
In OpenGL.

Let's suppose I have an Array Texture with 128 layers, and I want to make it bigger. What's the best way?

Do I need to create a new Array Texture of 257 layers (for example), copy all the layers from the old Array Texture to the new one, and delete the old one?

Seems potentially slow. Is there anything better?

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>>164470546
GM doesn't have vectors? this is a troll post right?

>3d is easy guise
Not falling for that one

>>164471050
I think x and y are separate and part of the object last I checked. But this was also back when it first came out and dethroned The Games Factory, if you even remember that.

>>164471171
it is though, 2d games are actually harder these days because most people are doing it in a 3d engine

>>164471050
Nope. GM doesn't have vectors.

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>>164471283
>>164471209
and people unironically use this """""""""""""""""""""engine"""""""""""""""""""""""" to make games?

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>>164471259
>because most people are doing it in a 3d engine

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>>164471259
>2d games are actually harder these days because most people are doing it in a 3d engine

>>164471342
Undertale is a game

>>164471342
To be fair, organizing the data in a vector doesn't matter much. There's not much difference between object having x and y and object having a vector that has x and y, especially for simple games that GM is good at. IIRC they still have stuff like lerp and stuff, so it doesn't hurt at all. At that point it's just preference, like preferring sameline bracket to newline bracket. Touting your preference as absolute is a sign of OCD btw.

>>164471396
>>164471441
gpus are first and foremost made for 3d graphics, 2d pixel shit made sense decades ago when they didn't even have gpus and 3d software rendering was slow and complicated

>>164469679
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I actually had to make a small platformer prototype first to show them how shitty their ideas were. So their contribution to the game was -half a day of work.
I wrote a long rant about it here the day after.

>>164471441
>>164471396
I'm just curious, are you guys serious or do you not know the lower working of the engine you use?

>>164471521
This is true. But sadly has nothing to do with 2d games allegedly being made with 3d engines.

>>164471557
>engine you use

>>164471557
I've written my own engine a few times.

Just because your engine uses the GPU to render, does not make it a 3d engine.

>>164471624
Oh I'm not him, nor was I implying that, but many (most?) of the popular engines nowadays, particually if they have support for both 2D and 3D, tend to have 2D modes that involve actually doing things in 3D and masking it in 2D. Examples of this that I've extensively used are unity and xna/monogame. If the engine is pure 2D though then it likely does not do that though.

>>164471259
I might have believed you if I didn't know anything 3D requires knowledge of a bunch of different and complex techniques. Just look at the polycount wiki for fucks sake

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>>164462605
I'm getting a bit of a sega wibe from this which is what I need for my game. I've been having some trouble arranging my music. I think its a timing thing. I've also been having issues with doing effects and picking the right drum sounds. I'm using deflemask to make sega megadrive / genesis music. I mostly pick samples and instruments from games I like. So far I've mostly been doing simple covers but its a lot of work for me. Also feel like I should make more progress with it before demoday 12 but progress is really slow.

I have some good inspirations for the music I'd like to put in the game in case someone's willing to help me with the music; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogjrWqHuoMM

>>164471857
the difference is that something like ambient occlusion you implement it once (probably by copying some other person's technique) and there you go, while with autistic pixel shit like >>164461115 you're placing each and every pixel by hand, it's far more tedious

>>164471050
>>164471342
dumb frogposter

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Post progress

>>164472012
That a characteristic of the art style, not of 2D art itself. If you were to use pixelated textures in your 2D models you would also have to manually place your pixels

>>164472012
then you hire a bunch of lighting guys to set up lights for 10000 hours

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>>164472683

>>164472908
fishing lvls?

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>>164473057
I dunno what that means, just testing text animation

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reminder to not give up

>>164472908
>>164473181
Nice! How did you achieve that?

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>>164473181

>>164473057
62

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>>164473057
oh I get it now

>>164473273
implement IMeshModifier and transform the mesh returned by unity's text generator

it's not finished but here's the code, hope you can get something out of it

https://hastebin.com/igegulebuc.cpp

>>164473431
Oh shit, it's you. Is there anything you can't do? You're great!

>>164473181
Cool now add the fadeout

>>164473431
How much money you make on cat fish island?
What did you do for advertising?

>>164472890
with physically based rendering you avoid manually placing fill lights, you place lights at the actual light sources like the sun and lamps, and there are ways to do indirect lighting programmatically with baked lighting/lightmaps and also other real time techniques

>>164473304
I want justice]

>>164473376
nice

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>>164473532
>cat fish island
you mean catmouth island?

that's quakeulf, I don't think he's posted in a while. he's a cool guy though

>>164473525
trying to get images in first, so I can explain controls to the player while using actual pictures of them

>>164473491
thanks anon

>>164473750
>that lewd ass movement

There better be panty shots.

>>164473750
Nice hips.

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>>164473750
>using twerk momentum to lift heavy objects

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>>164472683
More dialogue. Gonna make the mob say random things as well.

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>>164473916
>>164474093
>>164474493

>>164473181
>>164473431

2 sick my dude. luv u

>>164470598
to be fair, not having vectors in an engine is a PITA. can you add functions or objects in gamemaker?

>>164471491
can be a source of bugs having to type the maths twice
obj.x += obj.velx
obj.y += obj.vely
vs obj.pos += obj.vel

>>164475493
That's such a non-problem I can't even imagine why you'd bring it up. Any competent scripter wouldn't have issues with that.

>>164475590
don't underestimate typos my good man. I'm pretty sure there's even a john carmack quote about it

>>164475590
I've had bugs like that in the past
shit happens

>>164475590
it is a problem, you've never run into a bug caused by that? has nothing to do with skill level and more to do with attention span of the average person.
the example i posted was simple, but doing something more compex it can get hairy very quickly

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>>164472683
finished the first boss

it's not much but there's 4 days left so it can't be helped

>>164475590
It's still annoying as fuck to do when you do it often and if your game is non trivial, basic vector operations are really useful.
It's why I hate languages like Java where you can't do that and have to use functions and ugly chaining.
a.add(b).add(c) etc

>>164471491
What if you don't know how many items you will have? Say, your vector represents a list of items in your inventory? That said, I am pretty sure GM has vectors, even 2D ones.

>>164469706
Well, I'm thinking about making the griffin an NPC now, because it doesn't look good from behind.
This is meant to be a Spyro-like game, though, so I'll probably not have human characters in it.

>>164475698
>>164475741
>>164475812
I know, but those bugs aren't typically too hard to stamp out, especially if you know how to actually debug. It's a rarity if you have a serious problem. "Gotta wear my suit of armor, you never know when a car might hit me!" or something along those lines. It can happen, yeah, but if you know what you're doing it's not much of a problem.

>>164475828
Jesus christ all these replies I'm going to the damn store.

>>164475837
WRONG VECTORS

>>164475837
Bwaka

>>164475893
Oh, you mean like math vectors? My bad.

>>164475493
Create a function add_vectors(v0, v1), so you only have to get it right once.

>>164476148
>Create a function add_vectors(v0, v1), so you only have to get it right once.
And that's what we were arguing about dude, it's disgusting.
Good languages let you do
v0 + v1

Without having to type long function names.

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ok so heightmap and standard mountain range graphics is rendering...
planes will be able to hit mountains Soon.

>>164473057
buying gf

>>164476717
Cool.

>>164476337
GML is obviously meant for people who have no idea what they are doing, and get confused enough without operator overloading.

>>164477252
If operator overloading makes it less easy to get confused, then why not support it in a langugae?

>>164477252
It could have been a built-in feature for vectors alone and not something user defined.You don't need overloading in many other places, except maybe string concatenation which I'm pretty sure GML already does.

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If you change any settings here, should they automatically apply, or should you be forced to click "Apply"? If you go back without applying, should your changes be reversed?

>>164477572
Forced to click apply, then if you go back nothing was changed if you didn't apply.

>>164477572
After clicking apply

Yes

>>164473750
Looks petty good anon, is it going to be kinda like animal crossing?

Also what do you use, unity?

Whats a game that would be easy/quick to make but make quite a bit of money?
Something low poly 3D

>>164477939
definitely not a puzzle game

>>164477939
A game where you don't ask people to give you money-making ideas.

>>164477939
I'd pay for PS1-style brothel sim

anyone got a simple game idea that could make me 60 bucks on itch? I just want to make enough to get gm:s 2

>>164477939
Porn sim

>meme poly porn
I don't think so.

>>164478208
Just go and suck a couple dicks.

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really not looking forward to a retopo of this

>>164477921
thanks! yes, unity. and no, my last project was animal crossing, the scope was too big. I'm not really sure what to compare this to. comfy puzzle game maybe

>>164473431
I've been looking at your code and you really know what you're doing.
So you're both a good coder and a good artist. I'm a bit jelly.

>>164478487
Nice design

>>164477939
Porn game with cute furry girls.

>>164475823
the boss' collision in the second phase seems odd--it rebounds starting slightly into the wall on the left, but a foot out of it in the top/bottom and right

>>164478516
>I'm a bit jelly.
There's nothing to be jelly about, put in the time and you can learn skills.
Work hard anon.

>>164478487
VikinGirl RPG-dev here, looks awesome!

>>164478843
I'm confident in my coding skills but I clearly can't see myself doing art.
Anyway good progress, keep it up.

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>>164478486
>underestimating the power of fetishes

The hardest part about making games is telling yourself what to do
Games take a lot of hard work and time, so deciding what to do is hard

>>164479000
I wasn't the dev, it's never too late to start drawing.

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>>164479000

>>164479000
I clearly can't see myself doing art
the trips say otherwise.

>>164479574
Now, this is a classic AGDG meme.

>>164479574
>vaping sheep.jpg

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putting my graphic skills in the work

>>164479574
Is this a Molyneux joint?

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asesprite is no longer gpl

>>164479834
Saved.

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>>164479574
I love the Clarent game cover.

>>164479880
awesome, hopefully it moves to a real nonrestrictive license like freeBSD

>>164479981
pfthaha

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>>164480018
its... proprietary

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Continuing experiment in replacing my sword fighting with punching, pretty much just throwing mechanics in and seeing what works.
Got a stamina system to knock them out for a little bit, and a stronger charged up punch.

Speedlines?
http://www.strawpoll.me/12020747

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>>164480018
JOIN US NOW AND SHARE THE SOFTWARE

YOU'LL BE FREE HACKER YOU'LL BE FRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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>>164479834
A+ anon

>>164479880
well what is it?

>>164480198
the speedlines don't make sense like that since the action is not moving towards the camera

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>>164479981
fuck you, you were faster

>>164480541
maybe it would work out if the camera zoomed in a bit during the speedline?

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Progress!
>added transition effects
>added enemy mecha (they will have some chance to drop the weapon they are carrying, maybe)
>added health bar for mecha and player
>player and mecha now takes damage, but doesn't die, haven't got to that part yet
>started working on map system

Anyone got any feedback? If anyone has some interesting ideas for enemies, I'm listening.

>>164471546
Did they even contacted you after the game was released on the ludum dare? seems like the typical case of them just stopping any communication and playing dead

>>164479880
Asesprite was pretty bad, anyway.
You are better off.

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>>164479880

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>>164481037

>>164481025
tumblr or twitter to follow?

How do I get into some basic placeholder 3d animation in blender for unity? Anyone know of some good tutorials?

>>164480198
may wanna put a bit more body into that charged punch--she's not using her lower body for it at all, and it seems kinda light at the moment (it seems like just a regular jab with a long delay at present).

>>164481272
Mixamo

>>164481025
you have my immediate attention

>>164480541
I didn't see it like that, for me it's alright as it represents something happening fast. Pretty sure most people will read that the same way I do.

>>164481025
>Anyone got any feedback?
Speed up the transition fade. After seeing it a couple of times it will get in the gameplay's way.

Can't really help you for enemies because I too need to find ideas for them in my game and I have no inspiration.

how do I make slowmotion in gamemaker?

>>164481245
Nope, started this 3 days ago. I'll make one when I have more stuff in.

>>164481339
Yeah I could speed it up a bit. It's bit slowish now because I needed to see it works correctly.

>>164481025
why are some of your shots while crouching/prone exploding on the floor early?

>>164481462
Because it has too much spread.

I'll make the weapons more accurate when crouching. There's gonna be tons of weapons for both player character and the mecha.

The starter weapon is supposed to be kind of shitty.

>>164481427
spawn 999999^99999 objects

Putting 2 songs from other games into demo for demo day just so it isn't a silent wasteland of fuck (I think the songs work pretty well and would be the style I would be hoping to get when that time comes)
vs
...a silent wasteland of fuck and some bloops and bleeps from the menu selection stuff.

What will I catch less shit for.

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ok so moved away from tilemill to using mapnik directly, mountains are ingame. Can render the heightmap as tiles easily now...and be able to fuck around with the elevation (bombs craters! lasers boreing through terrain!)
in game eventually.

>>164481025
Is this for mecha jam?

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>>164481290
Will do

>>164480541
Fair point, though my thinking was the same as >>164481330.

>>164480874
Good idea, I'll try it.

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>>164481128
I don't want to work on that game, it was a jam game and it's done now, we spoke a bit on the whatsapp group we created for the jam but then I politely left as they started trying to recruit me for their idea guy projects.

They even wanted to put that game on the app stores, but I told them that there's no way in hell anyone would pay for that, and I was not going to keep working on it.

They are nice guys, but if I'm going to team up with someone I need them to bring something other than ideas to the table.

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>>164480874
>>164481697
this idea pleases me.

>>164481651
I didn't start making this specifically for it. I just like mecha and felt like doing mecha game with my limited abilities.

>>164481585
Am loving the Aesthetics.

>>164481860
my nigga. I love Joe

>>164481915
Cheers! mapnik and tilemill are great programs for maps

>>164481873
well you're doing good so far, so keep it up.

>>164481651
There's a mecha jam going on?

>>164481726
you did the smart thing, they are the worst kind of idea guys it seems, the ones who actually think their ideas are feasible to survive the live market conditions and make profit

i need a game idea

>>164482162
what if (X) had an attribute generally not associated with (X)

>>164482039
No. It's someone butthurt that comfy jam was the next chosen jam, so they're trying to force mecha jam.

You can make a comfy mecha game though. And also we can have a mecha jam some other time.

>>164482162
evil overlord gets bored of all the chaos and constant attempts on his life, seals his dungeon and takes a nap.

he wakes up 200 years later to find his seals shattered and his loot gone (some "heroes" stole your shit and founded a kingdom with some story about slaying you or somesuch)

You quest begins to reclaim your shit and build back up to your former glory.

>>164481873
>>164482039
There is no mecha jam. It's again the same idiot trying to push his own jam.

We already had a mecha jam too.

>>164482162
pizzagate themed stealth game

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>>164472683
You can now make friends :).

>>164482651
COLLECT friends, you mean

>>164482597
>>164482494
>>164482390
i need a good game idea

>>164482651
please
set your texture filters to nearest

the mushxels are getting me

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Time to get cracking

>>164473750
Thicclizzydev, why do we cook? What's the goal in the game?

>>164483137
no buddy, you do not need a game idea. you've been given plenty of game ideas. what you're looking for is a game design doc. nobody is gonna give you that.

>>164483137
I gave you one :^)

>>164483137
NO GOOD IDEAS
ONLY GOOD EXECUTION

>>164481427
I answered this last thread. Quite completely, in my opinion.

>>164482501
>>164482492
>ask simple question
>random anonymous loses their shit
Why are you so triggered? If you want a comfy jam you can just do one there's no point in attacking other hypothetical jams. If I wanted a mecha jam I would have simply made a page already. If you want a comfy jam you can just make the page already. There's no need to get butthurt.

>>164481025
Which is the main-er character, the mech or the pilot.
Because my first thought was the pilot should be a one-shot. That's why they fight in mechs.

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>>164481025
>that fade in/fade out

>>164481025
something about the jump arc feels off but I can't tell what just from looking

>>164482047
There's no good kind of idea guys.

>>164482494
Why do you fags always give story ideas instead of game ideas

>>164483978
dead ones

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Some progress on the flower ball game.
Added flowers that bloom from the seeds. I'll make more flowers of course. Sorry for the low FPS gif.

tfw you procrastinate dev by playing your gaem

>>164484083
>wanting actual gameplay ideias
good luck keeping that motivation, story ideias are the best kind of ideias

>>164483609
Both I guess. The pilot is supposed to be weak, but because of the smaller size, she can fit in tight places and she's lots harder for enemies to notice. Basically you will only be using the pilot to do stuff you cant do with your mecha, like puzzles. The enemies will deal shittons of more damage to the pilot than to mecha, I just haven't got to balancing stuff because I'm just working on features.

>>164483740
I'm using shader to change the displayed palette, which I can easily control.

>>164483820
Mecha or the pilot? The mecha can fly which might make it look weird since there's no graphics for that yet and I haven't come up with idea how to do it in a way it's very easy to do more bullet-hell kind of fights with mecha (like itano circus shit).

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>>164484414
Iktf

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>>164482651
Good job

>>164484152
Looks nice.

>>164484083
See >>164483978 and >>164484134

>>164481194
https://boards.fireden.net/vg/search/image/IIzpDx8K8l5pFmjKNaHOgg/
>76 results found.
And that's just for one hash.

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The mob now shouts stuff. Could only come up with a few things though, so there's a ton of repeats.

>>164484593
damn nature aesthetic af. how can we compete

>>164484675
>posted 4 times in a single day
Jesus.

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>>164483146
That's more due to the video quality dropping in recording

>>164484679
this is compelling. I feel like the guy holding the door should be more panicked though, he seems too level headed for having everyone in his village/town turn on him. Like, if everyone i grew up with and knew tried to kill me it would break my mind.

>>164484675
https://boards.fireden.net/vg/search/image/IIzpDx8K8l5pFmjKNaHOgg%3D%3D/page/3/
>engine dev is a depressed shitposter
Not that shocking really

>>164484675
'>>164484906
>don't forget to give up
>friendly reminder to give up like i did
>vulkan vulkan vulkan
>i give up
what a faggot

>>164484679
This is getting interesting now.

here comes dat danny

>>164485176
>depressed shitposting enginedev gets called out
>REE DANNY
Kill yourself.

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>>164484867
It's still a problem

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>>164466902
Multiplayer kinda works now
Its a bit grotty, buggy and broken
But you can see each other now and the camera snaps to the correct user (i think) :)
Also
I GOT A GREEN SCREEN :D

ooo how fancy xD

Im so excited

who needs sleep :P

I kinda do

im probably gona get some sleep now

night aggy daggy :D
https://youtu.be/PqMuASZg_t4

>>164485245
Fag

i sure hope you aren't still using sublime, /agdg/.
https://blog.xinhong.me/post/sublime-text-vs-vscode-vs-atom-performance-dec-2016/
>>164485245
kys

knew it, it's so obvious when it's him, his rat armoa stinks up the thread

Scram!

>>164485297
:D

>>164484675
Is it Square Enyx?

>>164485050
>>164484906
>>164484795
>>164485228
Where is your game?

>>164485368
Google "paranormal patrol"

>>164485229
Will fix.

>>164485320
i would if i could :(

>>164484675
He's posted that image way more than 76 times.

Ok, now's a bad time to post progress. I'll wait a few hours.

>>164484893
I sorta figure that's what he's doing internally. He knows he's going to die, and he knows his younger sibling will probably die, so he's in parent/guardian mode, trying to make sure the kid thinks everything will be okay.

>>164483740
>>164484538
yeah, assumed so. it's less the technical side of it and more like, that it looks really good. i have a huge boner for old fade in/fade out effects.

>>164485575
It was amazingly nice and comfy in the previous thread. A music bro came by and gave advices to others.

>>164485368
fuck off retard

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>>164485575
i just got told to kill myself for posting progress so probably wise

>>164485320
why would i use sublime for 70$ when there are free alternatives

>>164486091
notepad 4 lyf

>>164485320
What? Sublime performed better in almost every test.

>>164486091
Sublime is free.

>>164486180
I meant atom and didn't realize it till now

>>164485575
Don't come back.

>>164486054
You've become just another of the hundreds of special triggers for our resident nodev shitposter(s). I personally hope you never stop posting here and use extra smilies.

>>164486180
it says "a license must be purchased for continued use"

is it free if you steal it? i don't steal software anon

>>164486432
You're allowed to use the free version as much as you want, the only downside is there's a popup every once in a while reminding you to purchase a license. It's like winrar, you never have to purchase a license. I don't like stealing software either.

>>164486557
>It's like winrar, you never have to purchase a license
except, you do
the terms tell you not to use winrar past the trial period and that you must buy a license to keep using it
it's like oblivion, there is (nearly) no DRM, but that doesn't mean you're allowed to use it for free

>>164486432
>>164486557
I also don't steal software, it just feels too niggerlicous. Anytime I learn that someone is using pirated software I can't help but think less of them.

>>164485851
>A music bro came by and gave advices to others.
then some anime poster said music is "just random notes thrown together until it sounds good"
shook my head in real life

>>164486827
Literally anything is a number of elements organized in an random fashion

>>164486687
Sublime Text says
>There is no enforced time limit for the evaluation
So it's fine to use as long as you feel like you're evaluating it.

>>164486412
thank you, ill try my best :D

>>164486994
"no"

>>164481037
>kill yourself over some boring shit like Fez

jesus christ

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>>164485245
>is this some insane attempt at smearing that literally who's "reputation"?
>or maybe he is trying to get attention by acting retarded?
>I mean there is no way he could be really this much of a retarded piece of shit
What did he mean by this?

>>164487086
Yes.

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I never realized how good VA-11 HALL-A's soundtrack is, this is some nice devving music.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8w_Q57RQJc

>>164485368
I deleted it because a depressed oldfag shitposter engine "dev" who has literally never made a game in his life spammed his meme picture of Jonathan Blow 300+ times and told me to just give up.

>>164487201
too bad the game is shit

>>164487086
>creationism
Disgusting.

>>164487201
This is what you can accomplish if you never post here

>>164487157
>What did he mean by this?
That's not how you do it

>>164487279
Doesn't matter. Plenty of shit games have good OSTs. Like No Man's Sky.

>>164487201
It's so generic though.
Then again, i guess generic is good in the context of a background game like vallhalla

>>164487279
how?

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comfy yet?
zoom 7 is done, takes too long, have to change the tile caching system to render on demand

>tfw you play your own game and know it's not fun, but you don't know what else to do to make it more fun
>tfw the game play feels unrefined but you don't know how to make it more refined

>>164487556
maybe gamedev isn't for you.

>>164487312
>there is no such thing as artistry or craftmanship
>everything is random at a quantum level therefore nobody has any skill
You need a psychological disorder to think this way.

>>164487454
b/c its a visual novel with little gameplay

how bad can you fuck up a drink mixing game?

>>164487343
I am not being facetious, I have genuinely no idea if this is some epic new meme, someone being retarded or another deranged campaign to ruin some poor dudes life.

>>164479834
>black shell media
Why is that on there? Is there some shitstorm I missed about it? Or is it on there for the same reason unity is?

>>164487367
>NMS
>Good OST

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJCV0Qc8NTs

>>164487801
They scam unknowing indie devs and have been following lots of people on tumblr.

>>164487684
For a board so anxious about normies I swear agdg has the biggest stick up it's ass.

>>164487627
You need to have your head checked if you saw me implying that anywhere

>>164487928
>manly chin on female characters
why.jpg

>>164487994
>loses the thread of conversation this easily
Fuck off.

>>164487086
if you randomly chain words together, you'll eventually have rewritten all the great works of the past and all the great works of the future

same things is obviously true for music.

>>164487928
I wonder if he monetizes these, those views will net some decent dough.

>>164488124
>female
this is obviously a setting where crossdressing is common and accepted--just look at the artstyle, it reeks of homoeroticism.

>>164487932
Scam? How so? When I asked around before, the only devs that had anything negative to say about them were either devs that had unsellable games (which to be fair BMS shouldn't have picked them up in the first place) or just a dev being upset that a publisher is trying to get as many sales as possible for his game (which is unreasonable if you ask me) Did something else happen beyond just following a lot of people?

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Google Drive folder update, Wir bleiben unbesiegt edition:

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B6j4pcv3V-vfb3hKSlhRRzlLbFE

- Ancient Charlotte lewds were shared by a based anon
- Tender Arms fan art anon was on a rampage, and also reached out to other games to spread his blessing
- Ohayou anon was back in town, too, with 8 fine pieces of work
- The /agdg/ fan fic was continued, this time with Charlotte, Vampire girl, Bunny idol and Noir from Clarent
- Misc.: some fun picture here and there, some /agdg/ logos, missed Christmas Greetings from the previous batch, a few helpful info graphics, a music bro shared free material

And before I forget: happy new year!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VoVkxfnNPbY

>>164488175
>I can dismiss all art and technology with the room full of monkeys on a typewriter analogy
You're wrong and should be embarrassed.

>>164487928
Anime hitman sounds great but I've never got the impression that yanderedev can pull it off.

>>164488387
your're are just a rude bully who bullied him out of /agdgv/ like the rude bully you and every single one of you are

>>164488251
afaik, vampire under the sands dev used BSM , they took a huge cut of his money and did shit for actual promotion of the game

>>164488329
i'm not dismissing anything, just stating facts buddy
fight me with counter arguments

>>164488473
>yanderedev
>ever coming to agdg ever
kek

>>164488251
They don't actually do any work and steal your money.

>>164488387
We'll have to see, I think he can do it if he gets the money from that upcoming kickstarter, but at the very least the game is popular and he seems dedicated.

>>164488124
Shitty artist.

>>164488143
>blaming me for your deductive fallacies

>>164488587
In the instance of music, people make music by following note structures, scales, patterns. It's not random.

There is no real argument here.

>>164488262
>still no fanarts for my game

>>164487932
I remember these cunts. Kinda sad that even more people have fallen for it considering the amount of bad press you can dig up with a simple google search.

>>164488587
Thousand monkeys is a theory not a fact. It's not based on anything except pure imagination.

>>164488943
post game

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[unnecessary details intensify]

>>164488546
I was actually talking about VOTSdev, I talk with him daily. He complained a lot for them doing what they said they'd do in their contract. He also didn't make any use of their other services. In other words it doesn't sound like he actually read nor asked about what he was getting into, but I suppose it's also fair to expect BMS to actually explain all their services to you on time of contract signing...

>>164488701
Are you talking about the twitter bot spam thing? Because yeah that shit's sketchy, and maybe I'm too old, but is twitter really even relevant? The free exposure on tumblr is nice enough at least..

Also I just wanted to mention that I have no intention of actually defending BMS, I just want to arrive at the truth, because a lot of shit gets said, you know? Even doing my research on them previously I found it difficult to find substantial claims against them. Most of the negative stuff was mostly just reddit posts of people complaining that their terrible looking game didn't sell, and blaming it on them, which I don't think it's fair to blame them for your own unreasonable expectations.

>>164489082
Delicious.

Be wary of your vram use though.

>>164488839
You stepped in with a two word reply and immediately lost the plot. Well done.

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>>164489082
[pig latin also intensifies]

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>>164488262
>The /agdg/ fan fic was continued, this time with Charlotte, Vampire girl, Bunny idol and Noir from Clarent
This shit is still going?

>>164488251
It's quite simple really. They're pretending to be a publisher when they're not. You give them a large publisher cut of everything, and they give you fuckall because they're not a real publisher and they don't have any of the resources required to be one.

It's not illegal or anything, but it's dishonest as fuck.

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>>164488262
>tfw your game is in there

GUYS
YOU KNOW WHAT?
WHAT IF
WHAT IF BOSSES GOT WEAKER INSTEAD OF STRONGER IN THE 2ND PHASE?

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Worked on blood and decapitation:
>blood is physical so it pushes body parts around
>blood responds to force and speed
>ragdoll body parts joints can be deleted with special objects or if enough force is applied

>>164489256
Seems like you don't even know what you're arguing against

>>164489556
what, being impeded by their injuries instead of emblodened?

that's crazy talk man.

>>164489589
>MFW ragdoll masters

>>164489589
you're gonna make it.

>>164489556
This is the best way to do it for an emotional impact.

>>164489590
I was arguing against the idea that art and music is a random outcome. I'm not arguing anymore though because you're clearly a moron and there's no point.

>>164489589
>mixels
>ragdoll physics
congrats, you got yourself a nice youtuber bait

>>164489556
you mean like Sif from darksouls, where all he can do is limp around?

Do you guys ever have issues feeling good about the stuff you do? If child me even found the web pages and programs im working with now id be ecstatic. Just finishing a tutorial would make me feel god on earth. But how come I cant do or feel anything except being tired all the time?

Feels like ive been running around the starting point for 2 years now and I haven't completed anything.

>>164489589
>possess the kid's severed head
>go and scare the shit out of the mother with it
>heart attack, dead
>level won

i can see it now. this game will be good.

>>164489873
where's your game?

>>164488920
over the centuries people have devised methods and techniques to come up with permutations of sounds which human beings are likely to like, good on your for recognising that.

that still doesn't mean that the set A* ,which contains every possible permutation of the elements of set A, which contains every possible sound which can be made in the universe, isn't a superset of the set A_HUMAN where A_HUMAN contains every possible permutation of elements yielded by applying techniques and methods devised for the creation of music to the set A

human can create good music using techniques and methods they've come up with over the years, that's obviously true.

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>>164489286
I get mixed messages here. People seem to be all over the place when they get fan drawings, but stories based on their characters are not as welcome? How does this work?

>>164489873
i know people will tell you otherwise, but i think this is the time you need to consider scope and complexity of tools in relation to your current skill

for example, if you're trying to learn unity and are having issues, maybe it's time to give something simpler a try like GMS or C2 or literally anything that'll let you get something out quickly.

sometimes its literally all about just getting something out to be proud of it, even if it is super simple and made with simple tools

>>164489873
Nope, not at all. Stay motivated! Also notice that doesn't mean to ignore your flaws or don't think you have room to improve. Also you don't tend to notice your own improvement very much, so try to take a step back to look at it.

>>164490005
>being this stupid while trying so hard to be intelligent
I don't see the point but hey it's your life. Good luck with that engine kiddo.

>>164490010
not him but thats an awfully accusatory question considering the the post youre replying to

>>164489082
I'd rather have a thousand shitty looking coins than 50 perfectly detailed ones.

>>164489873
I have the same issues. I guess as a child you don't give a fuck. You don't even have good taste either, and just enjoy it. But when you grow old, and realize that it's actually work and effort to make it good for others, then you start to feel the responsibility of it.

>>164488262
>unironically listening to music where the vocals sound like this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ianUb3vUXNc

>>164490193
If you don't want to give a fuck about quality, there is a small but growing movement of people who intentionally suspend their good taste and play whatever the fuck is made, celebrating the act of creation: "trashgames".

https://twitter.com/moshboy

>>164489764
Inability to read a post without making unfounded deductions about the author intent is amusing. Please do stop arguing because that mindset has no place in a logical argument.

>>164490146
Well, I didn't mean to. Sorry about that.

>>164487556
Throw it away, start a new project.
That's why it's good to prototype and playtest as early as possible.

>>164490587
if it's amusing why do you want him to stop

>>164490146
Though its true the fanfics really did get shit on really hard the last time they were posted

>>164490587
You were never arguing from a logical standpoint in the first place.

>tfw burnt out

>>164490891
Take a break or keep pushing, whatever feels best. Just don't stay away long.

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There needs to be more art of this semen demon.

>>164489646
i like you
>>164489725
nigger talks about sif
>>164489852
another nigger talking about sif

Do you cunts know any other games aside from dark souls?

>>164490891
Get yourself together, man. Move to Philly. Buy a loft. Start a noise band. Get six or seven roommates. Eat some hummus with them. Book some gigs. Paint. Smoke cloves. Listen to Animal Collective. Start some type of salsa company.

>>164490697
I didn't think about it that way, you have a point.

>>164490752
Please go on and amuse us. What post is illogical, exactly?

>>164491029
>I didn't think
Correct. You never have.

>>164490891
How do you get burnt out from a hobby?