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/smtg/ - 真・女神転生/Shin Megami Tensei General

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Participate in the current /smtg/ sings:
http://collabedit.com/uvwta
http://pastebin.com/dKLqugTC

>Starter guide
http://i.imgur.com/zJcYpuE.png

>Tips and tricks
http://pastebin.com/sBJjhw7f

>Artbook, soundtrack, manga, and other downloads
http://pastebin.com/NqLRYf5n

>OST links
http://pastebin.com/kLbYxjFU

>Misc. translations
http://pastebin.com/pgEWmYfH

>Booru
http://smtg.booru.org/

>Recommended reading
http://pastebin.com/ByiXrDGX

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>>164449079
>he hasn't played persona 2
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http://www.strawpoll.me/11542461
vote
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>>164449151
I haven't been able to vote since the second time you posted it.
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>>164335825

I'm slowly chipping away at Persona 5. I'm too lazy to make an image but I think I'm at 17 beaten now.

16 if you don't want to count DAN.

>>164449137

Is it Miyabi?
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>>164449151

Anyone have that image but with the P5 protag? My hard drive died and I miss it.
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When will the strange thing get it own game
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>>164445521
SMT4 is hard because it's designed like utter shit and is a RNG slot machine.

SMT4A is easier because it is designed a lot smarter, but the final boss is tougher than pretty much everything in 4 except post game/DLC.

I didn't play P4 above Normal but P4 wasn't hard at all.
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>>164449468
It's Eikichi's lady friend.
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>>164450627
Hard P4 is still pretty easy. The only real roadblocks are if you're levelled enough at Shadow Yukiko and Mitsuo if you don't have good personae.
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>>164450651
cozy is cozy
shes a cute fatass
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>>164444573
anyone?
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>>164451567
Does the rate matter? It won't improve your chances if you know it. Just keep doing it.
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>>164452142
I would change how I approach it, like rather just repeatedly fighting it until I get a drop or if the rate increases I would just beat Twisted tokyo again.
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Hi /smtg/, I'm a personaGAF member trying to reach out to the more some of the more uncivilized parts of the megaten fandom in hopes of making our community a more accepting place for newer members

You guys should should come to our community on neoGAF to learn how to be a bit more accepting of people with different alignments and especially preferences to sub-sections to the series such as Persona spin-offs and the mainline series

Oh, and my name on neoGAF is cj_iwakura, you can shoot me a PM if you have an account on Gaf too
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>>164452404
>Oh, and my name on neoGAF is cj_iwakura
cj_iwakura is a cool guy, he wouldn't post lame bait like that.
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>>164452404

I remember this pasta from a few months ago.
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Are Devil Survivor good SMT games ? Can't found them on 3DS at a cheap price in my country...

The 3DS is the worst fucking console ever with is region bullshit
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>>164453850
>he didn't hack his 3DS
Anyway, I enjoyed DeSu 1 and I don't even like SRPGs that much.
Still need to get to DeSu 2.

You could try to settle for the NDS versions, but there's no compendium, so you gotta fuse like crazy.
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>>164454324
Don't know if I can do it with a brand news 2DS, sadly...

No compendium ? I can deal with that in the worst case
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>>164454615
You can hack on any firmware currently, theres no excuse
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>>164454615
Pretty sure there are some fresh hacks coming up soon for the newest firmware.
Check /hbg/

Besides, playing DeSu on a hacked 3DS is the most authentic experience.
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so i torrented nocturne

are the battle themes supposed to sound like a wma file from kazaa?
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>>164456385
Yes.
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>>164456385
Yep.
Only the screaming text-to-speach battle themes are like that though.
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>>164456468
>screaming
Uneducated people should not speak about things they don't know about.
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>>164452404
> more uncivilized parts
> learn how to be a bit more accepting of people
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I'd forgotten how broken Eternal Punishment's combat was. I'm enjoying it, but the balance is pretty off.
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>>164458270
You mean it being easy? Fusion attacks are just to good.
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>>164458630
Fusion attacks are too good, but the real issue you can reorder your party turns at any time in the round. Maybe I'm just misinterpreting what I was doing, but I was getting way more fusion attacks than I should have been.
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What do you guys think of this build for Alice?

Antichthon
Concentrate
Invitation
Luster Candy
Makarakarn
Life Surge
Enduring Soul
Repel Phys

I didn't want to drop her signature Die For Me but there is too many more useful skills.
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>>164459692
In which game? If Apocalypse, go with Die for Me!, Dark Pierce, Dark Pleroma, and High Dark Pleroma.

Don't waste a slot on Life/Mana Surge. Just farm incenses.
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>>164459986
>In which game?
In IV.
>Just farm incenses
Red Rider farming? I haven't started Fiend hunting yet.
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I just lost against Polaris in the last stage, what a waste of time, seriously, this game is so slow
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>>164462108
And i lost against Babel on last stage as well.
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>>164462184
Same here, I needed one more turn but he killed me first.
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>>164462108
>>164462184
What losers!
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Hoy.
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>>164460134
In that case don't bother farming
It'll take forever to get her health to decent levels
That build will be good as long as you have another demon that knows Doping.
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Have this bump
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Anyopne here playing EreMegaten?
How doyou add Atma demons to the party?
So far I've only been able to let demons and humans fight in the party, but the persona and the Atma user can't be set into any spot.

I started as a Summoner if it makes any difference. Clearly I won't be able to use the Persona, but I'm hoping the Atma user can sill be used.
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What are the chances of a SMTIV collection including Apocalypse on the Switch?
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>>164472859
0%
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>friend who plays Persona got me Apocalypse for Christmas
>only have vague understanding of the series mechanics, but sure
>after getting far enough in to recruit shit from the first area, come here to read the FAQ for basic tips
>very first thing the Apocalypse section says is to play IV first
Well, shit. Guess I'll just figure out why everyone in-game is sucking Flynn's cock so hard along the way.
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>>164474818
Get ready for a rough ride, m8
IV's opening is easily the hardest of mainline.
Don't fall for Charon's bullshit btw, just save often.
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>>164474818
it does explain in the intro why everyone is so eager to have Flynn's cock rammed down their throat, but if ya missed that in short: he is their 'saviour' and what not
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>>164474818
>FAQ says to play the first game before the second game

No shit. Dont worry though, lots of people are also confused about this for some reason.
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>>164474818
IV is shit, don't play it, listen to the OST instead.
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>>164474985
>>164474818
Probably worth noting that once you get passed that opening, it's easily the least difficult of the recent Megatens, with SMT i and II being easy to break.
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>>164475007
I can understand him being a hero through the events of the previous game, but everyone talks about him as though he's the only person worth a damn in this setting (which may well be true for all I know), and all the resistance movements are explicitly described as backup for this single superman's own efforts. It's just a little off-putting, is all.

>>164474985
>>164475049
I'm not particularly opposed to playing IV, but it means that I have to buy something myself to properly enjoy something that I was gifted for free. I'll put Apocalypse on hold for now and consider it, I guess; not like I'm more than a couple hours in, anyway.
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>>164475767
>>164475383
This, but unironically
Except for the shit part, I guess
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>>164474985
>Don't fall for Charon's bullshit btw, just save often.

>not saving only by terminals
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>>164475767
>and all the resistance movements are explicitly described as backup for this single superman's own efforts
It's because he literally fucked up every leader in every other faction, they're his bitches now. He seems a lot more ruthless in IV than in Apocalypse.
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>>164476802
In IV?
Good luck with that, m8

Just as a heads up, there's no heal spots, and there's only 10 terminals, the first of which you won't see until you are around level15.
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>>164477027
On the other hand, there's the health recovery app as well as the MP recovery app though that one broke the game and made my run significantly more boring

If you get game over, you just pay the bill. I thought that was a good mechanic. Charon is definitely a mechanic that would go well with the older games where you could only save at terminals, so I hope they bring him back.
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>>164474818
>very first thing the Apocalypse section says is to play IV first
it's full of shit. it doesn't matter. the story in apocalypse is pure shite. you'll figure it out if you've ever watched an animu
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its not gay if she has a demonic penis
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Just beat Nocturne and I really enjoyed it. Combat was fantastic and the difficulty was fun even if it was frustrating at times. As for the story I thought there were some good ideas but somewhat poorly executed (mainly the characters being underdeveloped) but I did enjoy the minimalist world and environment of the game. Definitely my fav SMT thus far Nocturne > I > II > If

Onward to SJ
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I wonder how Hallelujah's penis look like is it purple like his nails?
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anyone have walter's character portraits at a high resolution?
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>>164481841
What did you like more about I than II? Theyre about equal in my book, just curious.
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>>164482619
Hoy
They seem a little harder to find than I imagined
What level of Res are you really looking for?
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>>164481841
>Nocturne > I > II > If
Patrician taste so far.
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>>164484380
i mean anything that looks clean and is transparent. i found the artbook scan of them but it's really grainy.
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>>164484678
I see
Those are the same I saw
I'll look a bit more
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>>164472859
It's gonna be Strange Journey 2 directed by Yoko Taro for Switch and PS4.
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>>164484678
Something like this?
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>>164483776
I liked the originality of the first a little more I guess? I'll never forget Thor secretly being the US ambassador and then when you beat him he starts a nuclear war and your characters disappear for 30 years. Whereas the general story of II was your character as a messiah whose supposed to save the world. That isn't to say its bad, I really liked the Chaos route where you side with Lucifer, its just a more standard story. Gameplay and the rest are close enough and otherwise their pretty equal.
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>>164485107
yes
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>>164485327
There are 14 Walter portraits in all. Do you want me to upload just the Walter portraits, or the folder I have of both IV and Apocalypse portraits?
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>>164485931
sure that would be great! thank you anon
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>>164486231
Here's the IV and Apocalypse portraits:
https://mega.nz/#F!r5xXRQBR!lj9Le1GXpLnz5tjHSstXQw

And here's the Walter portraits alone:
https://mega.nz/#F!6tYmGTJD!LRbqB6niTSA-2nTgQKYw_w
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[the instakill has activated]
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>>164475767
Minor spoilers for IV:

If you're on the neutral path, where Apocalypse takes place, then you have to do pretty much every sidequest. This is why Flynn is such a figurehead in SMTIVA. He has done everything for them and is now promising to liberate them from the warring factions that are trying to control them.
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>>164492245
>every sidequest
End this meme. There's this one guide I found on gamefaqs or something for the neutral route.
In addition to getting the right choices, there's a list of sidequests you're supposed to do, and the best time to do them.
I didn't do every quest before I finished Neutral and moved on to IVA.
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>>164493854
That's why I said pretty much. You have to do the vast majority of them.
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>>164493924
>leaving the sidequests unfinished until the lock
You basically deserve it. The Hunter Tournaments are actually fun if done as soon as you can.
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>>164494430
I wasn't planning on doing Neutral. I just happened to end up Neutral at the alignment lock. I honestly thought I was going Chaos the whole time but I was just answering honestly.
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>>164494524
Yeah the system is pretty dumb that way.
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>>164494430
>backtracking to every single hunter association the check for new side quest after every minor plot advance.
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>>164494430
I like to focus on main story and compendium on my first run, then side quests and fusion on my second run. Can you blame me?
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How do you unlock the Diamond Realm in SMT II? The wiki say something about saving at a specific save point but it doesn't tell you where it is.
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Still waiting for that SMT and Evangelion crossover.
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>>164502796
Desu2 is literally an Evangelion parody.
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>>164502796
the conception always reminded me of the third impact
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https://youtu.be/5gaakPfKyAI?list=PL9BF7B5A4A6B596E4
how did imagine have the best soundtrack?
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tfw trying to emulate Nocturne
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>>164509981
are you on a toaster?
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>>164509981
Please help
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>>164510119
Nope this never happened before with other games. I tried looking for a fix and can only find shadow fixes.
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>>164509981
>>164510160
That's how its meant to look its a spoopy game after all
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Is it impossible to find Osiris's dick in IV? He says it's missing, lol. I want to help poor man.
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Chaos Hero grew up nicely in the universe where Japan wasn't nuked.
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>>164510438
Kill me
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>>164509981
honestly nocturne has probably been the smoothest PCSX2 emulation attempt i ever did
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>>164511547
Kind of like it this way desu
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>>164511547
Keep playing anon Isamu and Chiaki will look great like this
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>>164513969
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>>164514398
>ONE THOUSAND PUNISHMENTS
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>>164462108
>>164462184
Could be worse, you could be playing FE.
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matador battle is right around the corner and i'm at level 16. should i kiss my ass goodbye?
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>>164521325
Matador is more about having the proper party/magatama than level.
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aight i got uzume, inugami, chorozon, and isora. should i be good?
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>>164522136
Hifumi magatama and something to buff your hitrate (sukukaja) and you should be good to go.
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Can someone fill me in on anything important I may miss going right into Apoc after only beating Neutral in IV?
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>>164523028
nothing, beating IV in neutral is exactly what you need.
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What would his alignment be?
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>>164525957
Chaotic neutral.
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>>164525957
Neutral.
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>>164525957

Original Doomguy? Chaotic Good probably.

The reason he got assigned to Mars was because he refused to open fire on civilians when ordered to by a superior officer. That definitely rules out all Lawful and all Evil possibilities.

Doomslayer? Chaotic Neutral for sure.

He's so angry that demons are afraid of him and he chose to damn himself for eternity just to he can fuck demons in the torso with his fist forever. Somehow I'm not getting a particularly "Good" vibe from him in this and he's definitely not Lawful either since he doesn't seem to give a shit about the UAC or Hayden's pleas.
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Advice to get the peace route in Apoc?
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>>164526707
be a pussy
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>>164526853
Is this genuine advice?

I just want an end where humanity thrives and this looks to be the best one for that.
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>>164526927
do friendship shit instead of being an edgelord
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>>164526927
all the fun answers gives you massacre points not that it really matters since you can choose which ending you will get anyway
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>>164526707
It's a binary choice. No magic points required.

The choices are between liking your friends and hating them like some weird psychopath so just pick options that don't treat your friends in a cartoonish, out of character, psychotic manner and you'll be fine.
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does anyone have any screencaps of flynn's flat ass?
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>>164526927
I mean it doesn't matter really. It all comes down to one choice at the very end. If you be a dick to your friends the whole way and then choose the massacre option, you'll just get a penalty.
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I'm level 38 in Nocturne and I just beat Hell Biker. Am I overleveled? I want to still have a good chalange.
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>>164530201
No
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YOHOY
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>>164533914
No more hoy for hoy.
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>>164536926
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So you don't get access to half your skill slots for ages in Apoc?

Who thought this was a good idea?
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>>164537989
Balance.
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>>164539378
In IV you could get em all right away.

Also does magic scale like shit?

I have like 30 magic and my spells only hit as hard as my demons with half as much magic.

Did I fuck up with a magic build?
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>make a gun build for IVA
>only use the gun option from the menu
>never the gun skills
i feel like a complete retard now
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Are the hits of the 1-3 med hits the same damage of the 1 hit of a single hit med damage skill?
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>>164540272
It's probably your demons' affinities. Once your spells reach the same + number, you should be doing more damage.
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>>164542992
I cheated with NTR and even at 100mag I was forced in only 40-50 damage on basic spells.

Are spells damage capped maybe?
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>>164542474
What?
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>>164543310
Probably. Just get the higher tier spells later.
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Would you capture a demi-fiend?
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>>164544002
i'd probably get killed trying
he'd run me over!
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>all the women except for sera and angel are muffin eating Dykes with edgy tattoos, who are "STYONG WIMMIN WHO NEED NO MAN"
>all of the men are estrogen filled homos with twilight-tier personalities
>sera is a girl is being forced by the embryon to embrace Hinduism, homosexuality, and liberalism
>angel is the villain because angel=Christianity=/=liberal faggot Hindus so she le villian
>ending is matrix, a tumblrwhale classic
Anything else I'm missing?
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>>164545153
But Jenna Angel is a hermaphrodite.
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>>164543771
If they're capped, then throwing most of my points into magic early is dumb.

I like IV more gameplay wise so far.
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>>164543310
Ran a quick test, bufu stone off 409 magic + awakened power did 180 damage whereas ice age +0 did 806. Not capped.
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Hi, /smtg/. I have a problem that's not directly related to Megaten games/manga, but I don't think /v/ or /pg/ know enough about Megaten to help me out.

I know that this is going to sound incredibly autistic, but I cannot function in social settings unless I imagine myself as a Megaten character. No, I don't go around saying "Hee-ho!" or try to summon demons or anything. I just feel myself with the overall demeanor of a Megaten character. I can pass off as a normie well with this.

I choose Megaten characters that already compliment my personality. My main 3 are Demi-fiend (When I'm feeling quiet but confident), YHVH (When I'm feeling a bit smug/cocky) and Nanashi (When I'm feeling a bit edgy). I also have a rotating list of Megaten characters that I can use. I've done Jack Frost, Yuriko, Metatron, Magatsu-Izanagi, Oni, Angel, etc...

But my problem is, I have a Christmas party with my co-workers tonight, and I'm not sure which Megaten character I should be. I want to be a bit more outgoing and talkative than usual, but not TOO much. I had a bad experience with Mastema this spring, when I got a bit TOO confident, so I don't want to use him. I'd like to try a SMTIV:FINAL character, but I'm not sure which once. I like Cleopatra, but I feel like she would make me come across as an autist. I was actually thinking about Raidou, but his chances of being in a new game hurts him a bit.

Do you guys have any ideas for a Megaten character that would be sociable and confident, but not too much so?
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>>164546620
You should still be Mastema, son of man. Trust me.
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>>164546620
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>>164546620
Was this ever a real post somewhere, or was it always copypasta?
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>>164526470
>The reason he got assigned to Mars was because he refused to open fire on civilians when ordered to by a superior officer. That definitely rules out all Lawful

Nevermind that refusing to kill people gives you law points almost any time its asked.
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>>164545153
A brain, probably. Here, have one.
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>>164523028
Not really. Apocalypse's plot so obviously isn't based on what Iv was going for that paying too much attention to Iv is unnecessary.
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>>164501230
If you're playing the SFC version, make a save file in the second slot before the point of no return before the alignment lock events or the Ark, beat the game once, and reload the save file - you can enter Kongokai by talking to the NPC in the Underworld (pic related). Hope you've dumped every Incense into Aleph to pass through those closed doors.
If you're playing PS or GBA ports, Kongokai is NG+ only, so you have to restart the whole game to get there. Also, make sure your PS version has golden PRESS ANY BUTTON text on the title screen - that means the version you're playing is a bug fix revision (vanilla version with white text has a nasty bug on NG+ where you can't get items from treasure boxes).
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Dante from the divine comedy series when?
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>>164546620
>I have a Christmas party with my co-workers tonight
>Christmas party
At least change the details when you copypasta.
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>>164550761
We don't need him, but I'd like if lucifer was shown caged in ice like in the inferno.
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ONE
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Defeated all Seraphs in IV. Ugly as fuck, all of them. Where is my cute greenskinned Gabriel? Is there any sense in fusing them? Uriel's max MP is abysmal, he can's even use his Lightning of God in long fight.
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What if they remade Strange Journey but with everything they learned from SMTIV:A's battle system?

And they kept Vitality
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>>164555268
Uriel learns Kannuki Throw, which can turn Masakado into a complete joke if you dump some dex incenses onto him along with other skills like phys boost/amp, bloody glee, charge, phys pierce, etc.
Also, Archangel's law is just a genuinely great skill to have and it isn't considered unique if I remember correctly so you can just easily fuse it onto a demon that you actually like if you want.
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lads how do I kill belzebub ib smt iv
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>>164550080
Till they genocide them five minutes later.

Not obeying your superior officer makes you a piece of Chaoshit.
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>>164555670
What if they remade iva, but with everything they learned from people telling them its plot is so incoherent it makes IVs look good.
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>>164557093
Debuff the shit out of him and use Salvation when he starts spamming Megidolaon. Also use Doping.
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>>164557923
>Not obeying your superior officer makes you a piece of Chaoshit.

Yeah, like that time when yhvh told satan that yhvh wasn't meant to be on the table for being judged. And satan was like okay sorry, my bad. You not understanding the goals of law =/= it not being about protecting human life.
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Does anyone know if there is a list with demon locations for SMTIVA?
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>>164558712
Yeah, they're in the dungeons and overworld.
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>>164558712
It's honestly better to use Elemental fusion to get the generic demons.
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Hey /smtg/, what's the general consensus of SMTIV vs SMTIV:A ?

From what I heard/understand, Apocalypse is a sequel to IV? And that storywise, IV>Apocalypse, while gameplay Apocalypse>IV.
Which is the lesser of two evils and the one I should get?

Just finished Devil Survivor 2 Record Breaker and enjoyed that one immensely for both the gameplay and character banters. Looking to play more of these games cause fusing overpowered demons is pretty fun.
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>>164559572
Both are fine. Apocalypse's story has some good parts, but its endings are openly retarded, and it has a straight up black and white morality, which includes retconning any characters from Iv it didn't like into black. Ivs story is good but... the middle third of the game has no plot. and half the characters are one off characters who become irrelevant past their one scene.
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>>164559804
Hmm yeah this is why I'm hesitant to get either of them. It seems the feeling is that they're both flawed games that are kinda eh.
Which one of them offers more replayability hours and have more demons?

Kinda leaning more towards Apocalypse but maybe I should just play the DS games instead.
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>>164453850
Literally No Excuse
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>>164551151
I'd love it. It's the one image that stayed with me years after reading Dante's Divine Comedy and it would make one hell of a (final) boss reveal.
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>>164559572
Play both. Do IV's Neutral Route, then play Apocalypse.
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>>164560319
There's no reason to play Ivs neutral route over any other. Apocalypse has to be appreciated as its own game rather than realistically compatible with neutral depicted as is in Iv.
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>>164560379
Things make more sense if you do the neutral route and kill Lilith.
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>>164560262
http://blastworksdepot.com/games/blastworks/6320

This isn't relevant to anything ever, but right before I discovered megaten games, I made a blastworks stage where the end boss was lucifer trapped in ice. It was a featured stage, and one of the highest rated on the side. Unfortunately, nobody played blastworks, so there's no youtube videos of anyone playing it.

The stage starts in a modernist limbo with ladders in the background. You ascend up and the second part is in heaven. You go even higher and above heaven there's just emptiness of space with no enemies, which is meant to represent the ein from kabbalah, and the existential dread of whether there's purpose in life. Then at the end of the space segment you go back down past heaven and limbo into hell. And the very last last the last segment is you go off a burning waterfall down one more stage into the ice layer at the bottom of hell. The ground is ice, but with red fireballs falling in the background and lucifer is frozen in the middle as the boss. I think the overall stage is cool and would recreate it in a game anyone's ever actually played if I knew of any it was worth it in.
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>>164560545
They're not going to either way. Definitely not enough to not just play whatever ending you want. If you happen to want neutral, then play it. But don't do it thinking its necessary to make sense of apocalypse.
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>>164551151
You mean like in MTII?
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>>164561141
I didn't play mtII. I want to get around to it, but its so damn hard to finish the trudge of SMTI. I've been playing I for like three years now.
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>>164560664
Muh continuity though
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>>164555670
Yes please.
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>>164561316
>continuity
>game that blatantly doesn't even try to pretend that its what IV had in mind when it was written.

Yeah. No. Go for the ending that you like.
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>>164561416
>Go for the ending that you like.
No. Go White, Law, Chaos, then Neutral. Play them all, unlock everything.
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>>164561701
Why? You'll be bored as hell playing the game for the fourth time.
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>>164561729
>not wanting to see everything
>getting bored of a good game

It's like you're some sort of casual.
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>>164561803
>of a good game
>good game
We're talking about IV here, anon.
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>>164561848
>he doesn't think IV is a good game
What a loser!
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>>164561803
You can see everything without playing it IV times. Just watch the other endings on youtube.
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>>164561905
IV is shit. Are you the same IV apologist that always says dumb shit like "b-but the entire package is good" "y-yeah the gameplay is shit but it's FUN shit!".
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>>164561912
>Just watch the other endings on youtube.
Disgusting.

>>164561971
Anon, no. IV was a good game. Your opinion is garbage.
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>>164562001
So you are the same faggot. I'm so tired of exposing your ass every time you try to defend that piece of shit game.
>>148731375
>>148731884
You can stop replying to me now you fucking loser.
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>>164562001
Trying to get 100% compendium is pure autism though. I can maybe see playing the game twice, but not four times. No one is going to respect you for this except other autists.
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>>164562132
>So you are the same faggot.
I like every MegaTen, so maybe.
>piece of shit game
Shit taste.

>>164562189
Well yeah, there's no point in getting 100% compendium. The endings are all somewhat different though, and some quests are only available on certain routes. It's more game content. It's fun.
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>Not liking every Megaten
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>>164562490
Pathetic excuse of saviors they are.
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Hoy.
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>>164562490
You're right anon, now let's go play some Ronde.
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>>164567951
I would if I could.

I'm playing Revelations: The Demon Slayer, it's an interesting take on MegaTen.
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>>164562338
>It's more game content. It's fun.
nah mang. i had enough of smt4 half way through just one playthrough. it's way too tedious. just navigating the world map and having to go through a shitzillion unavoidable low level demon encounters that literally do nothing but waste my time is not something i want to experience again.
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>Get into DS flashcards
>Play SMT: Strange Journey
>Mind fucking blown
>Need more
>Every other SMT game is super weaboo horseshit

Is there any other SMT or any other game that captures the awesome grimdark/weird feel that SJ had? I had high hopes for 4 but I was super let down by it (personally). People have said to go play SNES ones but I dunno.

SJ OST was so awesome. One of the games that really struck me hard as being one of the best games I've ever played.
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>>164568919
You sound like an obnoxious prick. Just like every other Journalist.
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>>164568919
I don't like your attitude, you little faggot. So I'm not answering.
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>>164568919
>claims every other SMT game is super weaboo horseshit
>asks for other SMT recommendations

Make up your mind. Also

>Japanese products being weaboo
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>>164569042
>>164569067
>Insulting weaboo's causes mass triggering

Well thanks anyway dudes!
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>>164569142
Later
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>>164569142
Insulting anyone is generally not the best approach when trying to get something from them.
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>>164569142
You're not leaving, I'm kicking you out, you little faggot.
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>>164568919
!, 2, and Nocturne should be tried next I guess
Unless you tried them already?
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>>164569508
Oh shit, went to take a leak, and he's alredy been kicked out of the secret club
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>>164569571
Truly one of the most uncivilized parts of the megaten fandom.
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>>164568375
The world map isn't too bad, especially on NG+ after you know where to go. Estoma Sword helps get through things, but I do wish it was standard Estoma instead.
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>>164569689
He asked for it.
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>>164569689
Uncivilized indeed, m'sir
Let us make way for neoGAF
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>>164569571
He was unworthy of this general.

I bet he's a lawfag.
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Which difficulty should I start SMTIVA with?
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>>164572151
War.
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I've never played one of these games before but I hear they're really good. Is 4 a good place to start?
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>>164572327
Perfect way to set you up for the actual best megaten game in IV:A
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>>164572556
Thank you. Should I review the story anywhere? Is it continuous?
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>>164572327
Yeah, I'd say it's a good starting point.
Check the starter guide in the OP for other games and explanations.
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>>164572691
Merci
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>>164572658
Stories aren't really connected apart from IV and IV:A.

Don't worry about it.
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>>164555670
I want a Strange Journey remake on the Wii U.

I want games on the Wii U
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>>164572327
if you want to get turned off the series forever, yes.
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>>164543310
It works fine with me, maybe you should stop cheating.
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>>164567951
I'd like to play Nine sometime.
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>>164562132
>claims to have BTFO someone
>is still buttmad about it months later and turns the original poster into a sort of boogeyman
It seems like the one who got BTFO is you my friend.
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>>164579742
Shut the f*ck up.
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Just beat IV, it was alright but the (neutral) ending is underwhelming both from a gameplay perspective as well as a story one. One thing that's been bugging me is for what reason exactly is Mastema even in this game? He doesn't do anything.
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>>164580824
He's a boss in a challenge quest.
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>>164580824
His role is to be best angel, and he does a great job at it.
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>>164471834
Are they slaves or "human beans"?
If they're slaves, they need 1000 loyalty, iirc. Or was it getting one of the titles?
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>>164580997
this guy gets it
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>>164580824
Law exclusive challenge quest boss. He was the one that set up the Archangels to be captured.

Also originally SMTIV was supposed to share the same "setting basis" as SJ although they seemed to give up on that by the time of Apocalypse.
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As someone who hasn't played any SMT games yet, only Persona 3, 4 and Q, is SMT:A worth getting? Been hearing lots of good stuff about it.
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>playing IV and doing chaos route
>get transported to blaster Tokyo
>Jonathan says we killed Lilith
Get your shit together Jonathan, that was one cycle ago now Lilith is my ally.
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>>164587628
Read the thread. What's with all these people getting into Megaten today?
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>>164587701
Hey, I think it's nice as long as they're not being stupid. whoops
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Thought the YHVH's Universe stat doors would lead to optional items but it looks like they're part of the dungeon proper. Do I have to grind if I can't get past some?
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>tfw Flynn will never be a superboss in a future SMT game
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>>164587701
Megaten memes are 2strunk
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>>164590670
What memes? What are you talking about?
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>>164590670
Let's hope they enjoy killing their friends.
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>>164590721
The memes made by the fanbase.
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>>164568346
I preferred playing that one untranslated so it'd have the traditional skill names.
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>>164449151
no mt2 no vote
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>>164594605
not mainline dipshit
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1KctqwefwV4

Let me know what you think, /smtg/. It is my first Doom PWAD.
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>>164595231
damn son
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>>164595231
>those chicken screams
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>>164595231
Too many Hua Po
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>>164595231
Think it's got potential.
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>>164584318
I can kind of comprehend now
Every time I meet another person in a dungeon the inevitably want me dead for some reason. Once I beat them I got the choice, but I didn't know it was to make the slaves, I thought it was to let them live.
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>>164595231
The sound effects make it sound more like this game.
https://youtu.be/8ivXoRNhzkw?t=5m
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>>164595231
Looks pretty good
But senpai, a lot of spam is bad
Make it that only you can summon 3 demons
What else, change the Doomguy face by the Demonica helmet
And remember, It should be more about extreme violence rather than summoning
Let the MC get what he deserves by tearing appart demonic asses
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Hoy.
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Which is the best bar?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZZ1pcR3sKY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rG2ikOeXkyU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_P_iZNI8YM
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>>164606231
IV's Hunter Association no doubt.
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>>164606231
No Cafe Florida?
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>>164606975
They don't even serve you coffee or snacks, they're fags.
But their song is pretty damn good.
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man i wish nocturne wasn't so simplified/streamlined
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>tfw majin tensei 1 and 2 will never be translated
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Holy hell your friends are awful. Why did you ever hang out with them?
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>>164610285
by being a mute fagtron
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>>164610285
Demi-fiend is a gullible faggot that can't stick up for himself.
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>>164610285
Dunno, but that's in the past now.
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>>164531919
Please?
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>>164615386
fuuka looks like penises
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>>164615386
is this /f/it enough?
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>>164594776
>MT2
>not mainline
wwwww
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>>164617721
i fucking love this translation even if it's not finished yet

there's also gems like "WOULD YOU FUCK A DEMON?"

makes me wonder if the KMT translation is more accurate or not
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>>164610285
As a front so others don't suspect that I'm fucking the hot teacher.
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>>164618125
I want to fuck Yuko.

Post more 21+ MegaTen girls.
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>>164595231
Not bad. Put more enemies, but make them less beafy. Add more projectiles to dodge from for boss fights. Oh, also needs moar secret doors.
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>>164559572
4A kinda continues from 4 but in the sense that it is an AU fanfic written by different people who clearly aren't going anywhere close to the same direction tonally or thematically.

4 has a few strong bits of atmosphere but the gameplay is such a mess. I don't think it's worth playing, but it isn't so terrible that it's unplayable.

Gameplay-wise, I think 4A is the strongest RPG gameplay Atlus has brought to the table in any game not named Tokyo Mirage Sessions or Etrian Odyssey. I think the gameplay alone is worth it. And the plot is corny but if you could handle DeSu2 RB's corny plot, you'll be fine in SMT4A. The villain is even WORSE explained than Polaris though.

>>164560598
Blast Works was such a ridiculous mess of a game. How is the website for it still alive?
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>>164618448
Now she'd be 46.
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>>164619032
And that's okay.
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>>164619032
rei reiho is a slut! a SLUT!
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>>164580824
>for what reason exactly is Mastema even in this game? He doesn't do anything.
Atlus doesn't know either.

>>164587628
Yeah, it's great.

>>164588489
No, you can beat the whole Scratchland without doing a stat door. Most lead to dead ends locked by other stat doors anyway.

It's a clusterfuck.
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>>164618448
Here, have the manliest girl.

>>164619032
Debisama a best.
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>>164618448
Easily the best one.
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>>164617830
KMT translation is more accurate, but I like the liberties DDS2 anon takes.
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>>164620061
I don't like manly girls.

>>164620553
This is okay. At least her dick is feminine.
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>>164618448
only correct answer
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>>164620717
Shit I forgot about this girl.
Honestly, some of the new P5 girls seem promising, now even more so with dual audio.
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>>164621089
>now even more so with dual audio
Being a weaboo isn't good anon.
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>>164621246
But its fun
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>>164621246
I have heard the english and japanese trailers. ATLUS USA did a godawful job with the casting and voice direction of P5.
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>>164621553
Atlus USA's voice direction has generally been bad.

I am playing through Soul Hackers right now, and in the first 10 or 20 minutes, there was a security guard who sounded like Yosuke.
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>>164621246
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-N8oKEnCbXE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8zWLMSmDFVI
this is ok according to english only anti-weebfags
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>>164621553
So far I've liked all the English voices. They almost all fit their characters. I was hoping Hifumi would have a more... intimidating voice? But that's more of a visual thing with her, instead of personality.

>>164621701
I'd rather listen to that than have 90% of the female cast sound whiny as fuck in the Japanese version. That's really my only complaint.
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>>164621673
You better get used to him.

But other characters in SH are pretty good.
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>>164620717
If someone claimed this was a guest design by Kaneko, I might be prone to considering the possibility.
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How will you celebrate anniversary, guys?
I personally will ritually burn my copy of Final.
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>>164567823
need more DS doujins
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>>164625089
what anniversary?

Based on the original novel?
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>>164595231
Implement magnetite mechanic.
Remove thicc black stroke around demons.
Remove purple dildos.
...
Perfect game.
>>
Why is Twisted Tokyo so lame outside the fiends? Thought it'd be something like Blasted/Infernal but it's just domain floors.
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>demi-fiend only uses demons around level 55 to fight the Embryon
>doesn't even summon 3 demons
>normal battle theme from nocturne

It's like he's calling Serph and the gang weak ass little shits.
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>>164454615
Read it up anon: https://3ds.guide/
You have no excuses now and it's retard proof. I just hacked and installed A9LH on a 11.2 USA 2DS this afternoon and it works fine.
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>>164630426
Post what your folders look like desu
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How do I into eramegaten?
Starting as an avatar tuner seems impossible.
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>>164632810
What's that?
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>>164632650
This was my final hacked 2DS backup before cleaning out the SD card of stuff not needed anymore after installing A9LH and the CIAs needed, but I did this all on a shitty 4gb SD card. I just need to get a new 16gb card and do a system transfer over.

The backup however from my other 3DS that was downgraded and hacked back in the glorydays of 9.2 looks like a mess compared to the A9LH method. Fuck RXtools and gateway.
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>>164633171
And here's the SD/Folder for the 3DS I used to use that ran RXtools (then luma) and you had to do downgrading through Gateway and menuhax on 9.2. That shit back then took hours (5+) with tons of exploits failing due to instability leading to bricks and soft bricks.

11.2 and AL9H takes about 2-3 hours, even less if you've done it before and download all of the files needed in advance. Just follow the guide religiously and download the proper files (like the downgraders and FBI) or else you might brick, oh, and don't put a N3DS/2DS on sleep mode while on 2.1 when installing A9LH unless you enjoy bricks.
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>>164587650
Alternate Jon. Same for Walter.
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>>164625783
Because 4A is a cheap rehash of 4 that somehow made the combat really good.
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>>164618826
The canon mangas already had a Fallen became an angel again and try to demonize and destroy Mikado because it was God's will.


IV didn't know what it wanted to be under the surface either.
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>>164625783
I like it for being different from normal Domains. The entire place is made from human skul's.
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>>164636652
This is absolutely true and when I shit on 4A for changing the tone/style/storytelling from 4, I really need to always say it would be nearly impossible to follow 4 because it was all over the place and got away with a lot of dumb shit because it was vague.
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>>164636821
Rather it leads to them canonizing ideas that were there and forces the removalof other ideas. The White were replaced with the less futile and nihilistic manchild Dagda, the idea I had thought Law and Chaos were all part of God's evil scheme is made true, the Demonic Gene which is heavily hinted at is forced to ne made reality, Minako and Ishtar vanish entirely and replaced with Inanna and a loli, etc.

At least Black/Spooky Ghost Flynn didn't show up in IVA to confirm the very obvious fact they're from the White ending. even though they mentioned how fucking futile said ending is.
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>>164637263
How could I forget the common stock insult on Neutral is because Flynn is a filthy Casualry and a inbred descended from CDF Filth all along.
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>>164595231
Why are the slimes replaced with grayscale Abaddons?

Amazing otherwise.
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>>164595231
It's missing the heroic battle music
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Flynn is literally perfect.
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>>164550160
Thanks anon it is the SFC version. I actually missed the save point will it be open in a second run or I need to beat the game again and then load the save file?
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Guys I finished SMTIV.
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>>164622701
Yeah, especially thanks to the cheekbones and fivehead.
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>>164644238
How do you feel?
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>>164644758
I enjoyed the game, it being my first experience with the franchise besides P3. Got the Law route despite doing my best not to during the last parts of the game, I think I racked up too many good boy points early on. I was playing blind though so whatever.

The law route doesn't really sit too well with me, but I'm not sure if I can be bothered playing through again to get chaos/neutral. Might just look them up.

Question is what do I play next? I've got IV:A sitting here, as well as roms for Nocturne and Strange Journey.
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>>164645210
law is the best route desu son of man
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Im a tryhard edgelord that likes grimdark. What are the best SMT entries for me? I'm a huge fan of Strange Journey, and things like Super Metroid/SotC/Castlevania/Demons Souls. Are there any other media or books that are grimdank SMT related? I get off on the religious themes.
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>>164646490
The first MegaTen game was based on a book called Digital Devil Story: Megami Tensei. Not sure if anyone has ever translated it, nor have I ever personally read it, but that seems like a good start.
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I'm a couple hours into Digital Devil Saga (just got Gale) but I don't know if it's for me, especially because of that goddamn Mantra system. Who the fuck thought that that grindy piece of shit system was a good alternative to fusing demons?

I heard the story is really good though. Should I just keep pushing through?
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>>164646754
>>164646754
The first two volumes were translated, they're in the recommended section in the OP.

>>164646770
Keep going. If it makes you feel better, Kaneko thought eating your demon enemies would be an interesting idea and a type of fusion since the days of the first SMT.
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Persona Q worth playing? Started downloading Etrian Odyssey Untold 2 and completely forgot that Q existed.
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>>164646490
4A's massacre route is pretty edgy.
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>>164646969
Only if you're a big fan of both persona and etrian odyssey.
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>>164646490
The Old Testament might appeal.
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>>164643810
Yes, I believe you can enter it by starting a second run, just like in PS/GBA versions. Having a save file before the point of no return in the SFC version just makes it easier to get to Kongokai at a higher level without having to restart the game, that's all.

Btw, seriously, dump every Incense you'll find into Aleph. You can't imagine how mad I was when I saw pic related.
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>>164627313
The Embryon is literally a mid-game random encounter to Demi-fiend
Complete with all the bullshit that can come with mid-game encounters, such as being tenacious as fuck.
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>>164627313
And he's all alone in IMAGINE.
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Managed to beat this fucking bastard in IV. He was so much stronger than DLC bosses. I wiped the floor with Seraphs, Ancient and Sanat but this man was different. I like him.
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>>164649292
Congrats, dude.
Beating that fucker on hard was a pretty great experience, took me a while to find the perfect party for him though.
I didn't buy the DLCs, so I can't talk about those but he's definitely the hardest boss in vanilla IV.
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>>164649292
It was very rewarding beating him and the DLC bosses on hard mode with a no demon whisper run.
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Hoy.
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So did anyone ever post a pack with SMT IV/IV:A's sound effects and voice clips?
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>>164653407
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>>164653842
Psst, hoy.
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I honestly cannot stomach IV:A's plot. If the game doesn't stop filating Flynn & MC I might just start skipping the story all together.
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>>164654316
Just do it. It doesn't really get better.
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>>164654316
How did they shit the bed so hard with this. If you look at a bunch of the concept art and ideas that was dropped you would think something happened during development to turn it into this otaku filth shitfest smt ripoff. Neo Atlus needs to be stopped.

Kaneko bless us with your presence.
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>>164654950
>Kaneko bless us
>The man who greenlighted the shit fest that was vanilla IV
SMT died with Cozy
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>>164655182
>implying he had a say in anything more than the barebones sketch of the story

He wasn't even the one who chose the demon artists.
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>>164655182
Strange Journey says otherwise. It all went wrong after that. All that Persona milking along with the current state if the industry has tainted the minds of the Devs and newfaggots who have joined in recent years.
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>>164655290
The artbook BTFO Kanekofags hard confirming that not only he supervisioned it but often gave his own insight on how things should be like the aquila statue.
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>>164655182
I love IV though. Despite all the flaws.
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>>164655491
>A failed attempt of pandering to western gamers that failed miserably says otherwise
At least IV is it's own game not a cheap cash grab made with a engine of other series
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>>164656774
I wonder who could be behind this post...
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>>164656964
>Never had a prominient role he deserved on law
Too bad Strange Journey becomes kill after the alignament lock chaos was the most fleshed out route and yet was lacking as well
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Baka Matador refuses to show up. Stupid bunker, stupid skelly.
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>>164657676
I dunno, the neutral route felt pretty satisfying for me. I also liked how he bows out of the plot after you defeat Zelenin in that run. It felt very in character for him and it amused me greatly.
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>>164657734
I can't understand people with the patience for fiend hunting in 4
I gave up after like 3 times
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>>164655491
I agree. SMT died with SJ. A great game that stands on it's own legs. Unlike IV, which is just pure shit unless you love SMT to death.
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>>164658365
Neutral was the worst in my opinion all those fake promises from Gore and to end with a enjoy world war since people are too dumb and they will never understand the implications behind the SchwarzweltI felt played like a fiddle
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WHOOP
I just finished Strange Journey as my first SMT game and now I got a fever for everything DEMONS and ANGELS.

I've seen the image in the OP, should I just start wherever and throw some EMULATORS on my computer to play them?

Any of them translate well to android emus?
Thanks sexy boys.
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>>164659073
I think the game address the fact that humanity is flawed and could ignore the message that the Schwarzwelt sent, and that in order to stop that from happening the people involved in the incident would need to put a lot of work in. Whether or not you believe that neutrality is the best way to go, it didn't feel like they phoned in the route.
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>>164659336
That's right, start anywhere in the series
I believe SMT 1 and 2 have ipod/phone ports, but only SMT 1 is translated?

P3P on PPSSPP is the farthest you might get on android desu.
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>mfw there is no main characters who are black in smt
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>>164661560
lol?
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>>164633171
For some reason I keep getting this.
When I restart and hold up or start I still get the regular menu screen. It's also pretty wide for some reason.
Did I brick?
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>>164659073
Playing neutral, then eventually chaos route of Strange Journey is the only way to play and replay the game. The only thing you'll miss is Jimenez' final form, but that's a small price to pay
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>>164595979
>>164601003
>>164618456
>>164639638

Thanks guys. I am not planning to make any improvements to the WAD for the time being as the tools available for Linux have been a pain to work with and there is another megaten-related project I need to continue working on. Feel free to make your own version 1.1 though. Doom modding is time-consuming but easy and fun.

One neat thing about Doom+DECORATE is the capability to implement custom damage types. So, you could have Pixie cast Agidyne on Pyro Jack only to have Pyro Jack resist, drain, or even reflect the attack. You could also add a bunch of new demons (I do not think there is a limit for how many), each with their own set of skills and resistances.
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>>164661560
I thought black characters were the demons?
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>>164595556
Yeah, unfortunately the Doom imps and the zombiemen all share the same pain sound clip, and I was too lazy to figure out how to separate them and replace them with more appropriate audio. All the inserted sounds effects are taken from Nocturne.
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>>164645210
play SJ nao
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>>164661279
Thanks. I just read the first story SMT is based on and what the fucknuts was that holy shit.
I wish a good writer had gotten that idea instead of him but man what a great idea.
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>>164661894
No, you're not bricked just press select (Im not joking, this is how it worked for me) as the screen hanged as well on that part and it should go to the installer.
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Hoy.
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Which 3DS SMT games are worth playing? And how do they connect to eachother if at all?

This is a series I want to get into.
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>>164669860
>This is a series I want to get into.
Then start from the first one.
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>>164670146
Would that be best? If there's a story through all of them I'd like to follow it.

3DS is just the console I have and I'm not big on emulation.
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>>164670292
>Would that be best?
SMT I.
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>>164663162
The second novel I believe is partly translated.

The third novel ends with Lucifer causing Nakajimas death via Izanami cause he let the demons out.
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>>164670292
You do know there's a starter guide in OP?
If you want 3ds only, IV -> IVA is your only practical option, then probably soul hackers and/or Devil Survivors.
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>>164670292
each has their own story, like FF
although IV Apocalypse is a continuation to IV and iirc SMTII is after SMTI
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>>164671117
And If... is some weird mix of Persona and same world as I-II.
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hey, anyone has info about imagine private server?
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>>164671594
Persona 3 and 4 share the same world.
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>>164672649
All the Persona games share the same world. Innocent Sin's world get replaced by Eternal Punishment though.
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>>164673415
It's confirmed P5 happens in the same world? After all P5 Igor is not the real Igor.
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>>164662335
Nanashi is a post-apoc Tokyo citizen. That practically makes him a nigger.
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>>164646770
My gripe with DDS is that you can't start in hard mode by default. Hard mode in DDS1/2 makes them much better, that at least for me the difference is like night and day.

Although I don't think they're grindy games unless you go out of your way to min-max in the endgame. Money will always be a problem though, but you can always earn decent amount of dosh by fighting efficiently and selling data during full solar cycles
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>Apocalypse gives several special fusion demons exclusive skills
>doesn't bring back Minotaur, objectively the best demon design from IV
Would have been perfect to let him have War Cry, too
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>>164678283
Labrys Strike, why the fuck did I write War Cry?
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>>164653802
The IV Sounds should be somewhere in one of the OP pastebins, and for IV:A check last thread.

>>164672297
http://megatenonline.proboards.com/thread/1013/megami-tensei-imagine-private-server?page=12

Seems like it's still going strong
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I'm gonna replay Apocalypse after doing edgelord run for my first time. Should I do friendship route or edgelord again? I really hate my friends, they're absolutely insufferable in this game.
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>>164679230
Indulge them, I guess?

I mean, they're already dead to you.
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why is she so perfect bros
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Did that debisama translation patch ever get finished
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>>164680198
is scheduled to be relased after ...If
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>>164682898
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>>164678972
Thanks anon.
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Is the Triangulum Arc any good? I finished DeSu 2 BR 2 days ago and absolutely hated the fucking story, holy shit.
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>>164680045
Cuz she gives you a sword and then fucks off.

I should play Debisama one of these days, but I'm too lazy to play while having to check a translation guide on the side.
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>>164621701
Hey you fuck off Apocalypse voice acting was actually alright. I'd prefer dual audio, but this is acceptable.
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why does nanashi look like a sjw
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>>164691031
He's supposed to look like a Mad Max character, but they fucked the concept.
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>>164691031
You mean because of his side cute? That was a thing long before your boogeyman. His face looks weird though.
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.yoH
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Recarmdra
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>>164697204
Mudo
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>>164697228
Hama
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Being completely serious, Apocalypse would have been so much better if the writers were forced to sit down and play through the entirety of Persona 2.
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>>164701094
but persona 2 is trash my dude
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How the fuck do I access fusion history in SMT:IV Apocalypse? Also why is this game so much better balanced than SMT IV.
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>>164452404
>Personagaf
>Civilized
I wouldn't walk on the same side of the street as people like you let alone have an account on your forum
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>>164701094
Apocalypse's story didn't matter, it was an excuse for the people at Atlus who know what they're doing to remake SMTIV with rebalanced skills and a compendium that isn't full of worthless demons.
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>>164701094
Replace Apocalypse with any other game and it would be the same.

>we will never have a game with the writting of Persona 2, the battle system and fusions of IV:A and the dungeons of SJ
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>>164704358
It mattered in that it confirms some metaphysics while saying YHVH, Satan, and Lucy are different guys in every verse not directly connected.

Allowing us to wash away IV Lucy from his roster of normal forms.

Sun Throne with Twelve wings =12 Rays of sunlight was a cool idea though.
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>>164671117
>>164671594
None of that makes any route canon though, if anything IV at least reiterate s the point that the universes where other routes happen still exist
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>>164680045
It's a dude.
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>>164704836
>Confirmed key demons aren't the same across games
Something that's been a thing since megami tensei 2, but still your idea of important isn't very informed
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>>164705246
People have been saying they're the same guys in every game for a long time, to the point people are actually mad for confirming the obvious.

It's especially funny because actually try to whitewash YHVH's villainy in the older games, while ignoring that DeSu is it's own universe too. Old YHVH was s moustache twirling egomaniac, just not hooked on steroids like YHVH. Closer to IV's Demiurge of all things as a YHVH Avatar.
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>>164705624
>steroids like IVA YHVH.
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>>164646969
Yes. But it is pretty easy to break.
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>>164685892
Gameplay is fine. Story is a little bit easier to swallow as it no longer derails into two chuunis bitching at each other.

>>164669860
They're all kinda different games. Devil Survivor Overclocked and the sequel are strategy RPGs. Soul Hackers is a 90s cyberpunk animu game that is unfortunately also designed like a 90s RPG so it isn't even close to balanced but it's still fun. Persona Q is a P3+P4 spinoff crossed over with Etrian Odyssey. It's a fine game, and I think it could even be played without playing Persona, but that would help.

SMT4 and 4A are the mainline games. 4 isn't awful but it is a kludgy mess with a plot that is kinda half there, half not, and with balancing that is NEVER there.

4A adds plot... WAY too much plot. It's some dopey, dire shit, but the gameplay is the best of SMT mainline.

Persona 3 and 4 are time management friendship sims with brief RPG minigames. 90 hours of talking. 10 hours of RPG. PQ is, oddly enough, almost all dungeons. Either way, the Personas are good games but you gotta know what you're getting in to.

Basically everything is different from everything else and most everything is worth playing.
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>>164702420
You can't, lol.

And because Atlus called over to the EO dev house and asked how RPG battles are supposed to go.
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>>164707781
>EO
>anything but mindless grinding
l m a o
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>>164708805
and even then it's STILL less mindless than SMT mainline smdh
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Farming macca in Nocturne is so comfy.
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>>164707781
If anything it feels like they brought back the people who did nocturne. With skill affinities It succeeds with fusion where SMT IV failed in that demons are worth more than their MP stat, and whoever's idea it was to limit skill slots so much in the early levels deserves a Nobel prize in game design.
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>>164709798
>Farming macca

how bad are you
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>>164711503
Not bad at all, just want all the Magatama and the prices are high because I'm on Hard.
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>tfw grinding my demons up to level 99 to prepare for the lucifer fight on Naoya/Kaido's 8th day
>gonna have to grind the human party members to 99 next playthrough again

This is really time consuming, but I really want to 100% Devil Survivor.
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>>164712542
You don't need 99 for anything other than Lucy.

And even then that's a LOT of DeSu. It's good but just youtube those endings man
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>>164712920
What? Kaido's 8th day is all I have left to do besides beat Lucifer. I already did all the other endings. I'm just grinding away to fight him on the next cycle.
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>>164713056
oh right
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>>164711720

again how bad are you
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>>164713837
Again, not bad at all.
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>>164712542
Overclocked is the only SMT game I've actually 100%'d. The Lucifer fight is absolutely worth it.
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>desu this, desu that, desu desu desu
is everything you fags know to talk about
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>>164716628
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>>164716628
Devil Survivor has the best routes.
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>>164718673
How many COMPs does this asshole have?
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>>164630426
Can you emulate SNES games on a hacked 3ds?
THIS IS IMPORTANT
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>>164723098
n3DS can run pretty much any SNES game on emulator no problem. O3DS might not be strong enough. I don't know about SMT in particular because I have an o3DS and gave up on it. Try blargSNES.
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>>164723247
Fugg
I have a 2ds
I can only imagine that won't be good enough here.
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>>164723542
A 2DS is just a O3DS without the 3D gimmick
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Could it be SMT4:A was part of Atlus's hidden agenda with the World Government?
The whole narrative of the game appears to guide you to the Bonds route, trying to make you reject Massacre, but there is something else: there was no route for the Divine Powers, even though some of their members are portrayed quite sympathetically.
What if the whole game was actually a way to turn us towards Salvation by use of reverse psychology?
First it gives us two bad routes: one the game says we shouldn't want and another that we should. Like a Good Cop, Bad Cop routine. Meanwhile there is a third choice that we cannot make at all, making us subconsciously desire it.
Did you desire Salvation after playing Apocalypse? Atlus succeed with their brainwashing, then. Wake up, sheep.
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wtf
Bring back original Nanashi
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>>164723542
>>164724624
Looked it up and both SMT 1 and 2 crash in blarg anyways. It's a lost cause sadly.
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>>164726095
I went through with it anyways
W-What games are there to even play on 3ds?
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>>164726095
where did you read this?
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>>164726084
He defused into Asahi and their dad.
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>>164726404
I googled "blargsnes compatibility list". It linked to something on gbatemp.

>>164726214
To keep it SMT related, devil survivor if you like turn based strategy like advance wars or fire emblem. IV and IVA are alright for mainline but are hardly top tier games. Soul Hackers is dated but fun if you like old school dungeon crawling like I and II.
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>>164726214
>W-What games are there to even play on 3ds?
I'm too lazy to write a list so I took a screenshot from my .cia folder, just choose games from there.
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>>164726030
no because fatlus doesnt know what salvation means.

>>164726214
EO4, EO2U, Persona Q, Dong Returns, Gunvolt 1 and 2, Kid Icarus Uprising, FE Headpats, River City Tokyo Rumble, Style Savvy Trendsetters, Kirby Triple Deluxe, Kirby Planet Robobot, Rune Factory 4, Hatsune Miku Project Mirai DX
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>>164726214
Have you played all the Megaten games on 3DS?
Play those, especially Devil Survivor.

I hacked my 3DS when I only owned one game, and the only games I've played are Megaten games.
The only other games I've beaten are Virtue's Last Reward and Shovel Knight.

At least I can use CFW to screenshot my perfect demons.
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>>164726945
>Super Robot Wars
My niggest nigga.
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>>164727035
>At least I can use CFW to screenshot my perfect demons.
Can you post more? I need ideas for my demons.
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>>164727035
What do you use to screenshot?
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>>164727524
Only screenshoted my Four horsemen and Mephistopheles, but I'd love to show them off.
Gonna take more screenshots when I go back for a bonds playthrough.

>>164727608
NTR CFW.
Some versions of it don't work with current firmware, so you'll have to dig around a bit.
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>>164726945
>>164726957
>tfw I forgot 7th Dragon and Ace Attorney
NSMB2 isn't bad too but it isn't anywhere near as good as NSMBU. Hyrule Warriors is a fine grab if you have a N3DS but it's still a musou.

Also we both forgot Luigi's Mansion Dark Moon which is exceptional.
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>>164728041
Can't say this Pale Ryder is too impressive, but if you pair him up with Krishna then you can tear shit up.
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>>164542753
Replying to this because I still don't know.
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>>164728309
Red Rider could be improved upon, but he was still a beast that led me to victory in Twisted Tokyo.
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>>164728293
>Also we both forgot Luigi's Mansion Dark Moon which is exceptional.
I haven't played the original, maybe when I finish this run in IVA I'll emulate it.
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>>164723247
Libreto runs garbage, blargsnes is as accurate as zsnes so unless you need cheats and more than one save state there aren't any better options than VC injection. Kyuuyaku, SMTI and II all exist in in .CIA format for VC, Google it
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>>164728592
I haven't played the original but I have heard LMDM is better.

Either way don't skip LMDM. It is very good.
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>>164728559
And finally my Mephisto.
Give him concentrate instead of Mamudoo.
I thought that mamudoo would be useful for YHVH-verse but it turned out to be fucking shit.

I'd also recommend giving him drain light instead of repel light.
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>>164728901
Thanks Anon, I'll keep it in mind.
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Hoy.
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How much does +1 in a skill affect power/MP cost?
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>>164708805
>grinding
u w0t m8
Was your party like 5 medics and you expected it to work somehow? You need to use your brain in that series.
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I've been trying to get Resist Gun to mutate into Charge using the Skill Augment app for the last 15+ hours and I'm fucking sick and tired of grinding. I've gotten it to mutate into all sorts of skills: Critical Eye, Hellish Mask, Ally Counter, Makajam, Taunt, Me Patra, et cetera. Is there anything I'm doing wrong?
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>>164734325
Why didn't you just fuse him with charge?
If he didn't get charge then just redo the fusion.

Holy shit man, why are you doing this?
Why do you love Yoshitsune this much?
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>>164735643
I tried, but it got lost in the fusion accident. Out of the skills I've got there, only ones that managed to get through the fusion accident were the phys skills, high phys pleroma and phys pierce. I had to mutate all the other skills into what I got there. All that's left is for Resist Gun to mutate into Charge, but it's been taking the longest time so far.

Because Yoshitsune is best husbando.
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>>164736080
Dude, it's not worth it, especially on a famed.
You're only driving yourself to insanity.
Just make a Matador/Red Rider and call it a day.
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>>164736572
B-but I've spent so much time already on this. Think I should just settle for Critical Eye and call it a day? How much is the multiplier on critical hits?
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>>164736778
Well, charge IS better than critical eye, so keep at it for a bit.

Have you tried saving before doing the whole skill mutate thing?
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>>164737096
Yep. I've basically used a Heavy Grimoire before saving. Then, I enter and flee a battle to level up immediately.
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>>164580256
What is this trash
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How are the two Digital Devil Saga games compared to Nocturne?
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>>164738568
Of similar quality but different in gameplay. Mainly in that DDS doesn't have demon fusion you just have a static party of many characters you pick from a la Persona. Unlike Persona, DDS does have the traditional press turn battle system though.
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>>164737715
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Why is Persona Nyx so ugly?
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>>164741131
Her bar went under.
I blame Raidou.
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Newfag here, is it true that the SMT 3 ps3 port sucks? What's wrong with it? I don't feel like having to buy a ps2, and I'm not able to emulate it because the ps2 emulator is a joke.
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>>164742218
I haven't played it myself, but from what I was told, there's some FPS drop during the fusion sequence, which can be skipped after you view it once.
Other than that it's fine.

European version of the game is broken, so you might wanna buy it off the NA store.
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>>164742218
>expecting either Atlus or Ghostlight to make good ports
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>>164742218
It's fine. That's how I played it.
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>>164742579
whats wrong with the European version?
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Hoy.
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>>164744616
Not him, but IIRC, some people were complaining about a freeze before the last battle on TDE.

>>164704964
Was this ever actually confirmed? I always imagined Ginko to be a powerful woman with a fitting deep, manly voice, and thought that was the reason why they hired Sugita to voice her in 3DS Soul Hackers.
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>>164712542
What a cute girl.
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Hoy?
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>>164749374
Madame Ginko is rumoured to be a man and she avoids answering any questions about her real gender. And let's be real, if they wanted to give her a powerful voice, they would have had Saiga Mitsuki voice her or something, not a man with a deep voice.

Imagine being Japanese and finding out almost twenty years later Madame was a man all along.
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>>164741225
>still no Raidou 3
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How much more damage do critical hits do in Apocalypse?
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>>164754670
Why are tall, flat-chested females so perfect?
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hoy
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>>164758578
Hoy
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>>164758578
>>164758706
How many hoyposters are left?
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Bonds would've been so much better if there was still an option to get rid of Gaston desu.
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>And no. Brush up on Atlus history. Index >owned Atlus and went bankrupt and so Atlus >went on auction. The major companies >wanting to buy Atlus were Sony, Nintendo and >Sega.

Now if persona 3 weren't a huge commercial success then the interest in purchasing Atlus wouldn't really have fallen on these large companies. Because the games released around the time Atlus was up for auction didnt sell amazing like desu and pq and soul hackers rerelease. Persona 3/4 and the arena games really did well for making Atlus a good company to buy. It also meant that they were able to continue making games because Sega didn't dissolve the teams they are keeping Atlus exactly as Atlus wants. So don't try and teach me.
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Don'tTryToTeachMeBrushuponyouratlushistory
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>>164762914
Don't you mean Nozomi?
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>tfw no jack plushie
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>>164712542
Any more female Abel? Need for reasons
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About to start SMT IV for the first time, should i get the DLCs? If it's just good equipments for early game then i want no word with it
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>>164766384
What reasons, anon?
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>>164767039
There is DLC for armors, but there are also boss battles.

If you are gonna pay for them, they're not worth it in my opinion, since they add too little (some added lore which you could watch on Youtube, a boss fight or two, and the ability to fuse those demons).
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>>164762914
Bonds would've been much better if you could get rid of all your friends
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what difficulty should I pick in apocalypse
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>>164769450
Hard.
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>>164769837
no idea why this is upside down. Every other location it's right side up. Fucking Linux.
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>>164769837
Nani?
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>>164770010
Hopefully that fixed it.
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>>164770140
Yes, better.
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>>164768360
Plus to get all of them is like the cost of an entirely new game. Or at least 1/2-3/4
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>>164769450
normal
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pascal the dog is here
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Hoy.
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>>164758706
H-HE'S FAST!
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>>164763504
PQ sold better than the Arena games.
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Nanashi, wake up
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>>164783138
Don't tell me what to do, Asaho.
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>>164755710
1.5x
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>>164783138
Fuck off Pascal.
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>>164780324
>An RPG spin off of an RPG series sells better than a shitty Fighter
Gee, you don't say? Arena had okay sales but Ultimax sold like shit.
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>>164785759
ATLUS X CAPCOM WHEN
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>>164785759
And they're planning a Persona 5 Arena.

>>164786158
Just put SMT characters in the next Project X Zone.
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>>164786158
After SMT Musou.

>>164786251
>And they're planning a Persona 5 Arena.
I heard. Can't wait to buy it for 10€ new after some months and taste the shitty story.
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>>164786251
Project X Zone is terrible though, I want to see Demifiend fucking shit up at EVO
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>>164786536
>Project X Zone is terrible though
The second one is actually unexpectedly pretty good.
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Should we compile the list of games that aren't Megaten but might be interesting to people who like Megaten? Like Xenogears or El Shaddai.
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>>164789184
xenogears

xenosaga 1-3

xenoblade.
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>>164789184
Persona
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>>164789184
https://www.reddit.com/r/Megaten/comments/35chyy/discussion_megaten_fan_recommendation_thread/
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>>164789184
i'd recommend killing yourself
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.yoH
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I want Terminator back.
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i fucking love SMT1's minimalism
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>>164789895
how is wizardry not in that fucking list

what the hell
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i'm about to play some devil survivor
what kind of build should i go for?
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>>164790082
But not before you kill your friends and fuse your dog.
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>>164767481
Scientific reasons. Need a couple more
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>>164789237
>xenoblade
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>>164797730
First run magic for dancing. Every other run 2 speed for every 1 strength and you win.
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>>164798559
thanks
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Hoy
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>>164511547
Guy who couldn't get nocturne to work here, I still can't get it to work but I'm streaming it if you want to see Nocturn look like that.

weebcrew.moe
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>>164805612
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>>164805612
>still at the hospital
Tell us when the demons show up, I want to see what they look like
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>>164806478
I hope they'll look like this.
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get your comps, losers
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>>164807093
How are we supposed to defeat a Pazuzu already?
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>>164807093
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>>164807239
AAAAAAH I FUCKING HATE THAT MOTH
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>>164808061
:^)
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>>164807093
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>>164807223
>being this much of a bitch ass summoner
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>>164808703
I'm gonna summon 5 Pixies and we're gonna beat the shit out of you.
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>>164808780
my mara is going to get every pixie and you gaping asshole full of magnetite
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>>164807223
Use Linda Blair as a sacrifice.
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>>164806478
Demons look fine, Demi-Fiend does not.
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>tfw i have ideas for a MT2 remake
>tfw atlus will never remake either MT1 or 2
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what's the strongest waifu demon I can make in apoc
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>>164811391
You know stats go up to 999, right?
Any demon will be the toppest tier if you just make it take enough incenses.

If you don't feel like doing that, then it'd be XiWangmu, Inanna or Cleopatra.
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>>164811391
Grind incense until she has 999 in everything.
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Mudo.
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Macca beam
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What would be a good skillset for Red Rider in IV?
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>>164797535
Because Wizardry is just a first person dungeon crawler. It would be something to recommend to EO fans. Even then, old Wizardry is shit.
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>>164819837
>implying megaten before nocturne wasn't literally just a wizardry clone
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>>164807093
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKul70qCWtY

The Demon Summoning Program isn't ready yet.
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>>164819920
Was Wizardry set in a modern setting? Did it have recruitable demons and angels?
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>>164820149
>Was Wizardry set in a modern setting?
no
>Did it have recruitable demons and angels?
wizardry iv had monster summoning yes

you're kind of dense if you don't think megaten used to be wizardry clones with a neat gimmick strapped on top

the early games have almost the same HUD, magical spells all have weird names with prefixes that modify them and there's more i'm sure
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>>164807239
Why do people hate him so much? After all, I'm just a moth
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>>164823274
>I'm
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>>164823274
THUNDER REIGN
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>>164823635
Endure
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hee-ho!
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>>164823274
>endure
>devil speed
>kills civilian
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i can't fucking deal with andalucia
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Are there any SMT games that are just all around good? Seems like most mainline especially carry a lot of baggage that keeps it from being considered "good."

In my experience SMT IV was close, but the story and characters were a bit lower than subpar. It was bearable (unlike Apocalypse) but it didn't interest me besides the premise and concepts they were working off, but ultimately failed in execution.
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>>164831346
IMO all the SMT games are good, but they have flaws or have dated in a way that can pull people back.

But I think a Megaten game which could fit the criteria is Devil Survivor.
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>>164831346
SMT I
SMT II (unless mid-lategame busywork kills an experience for you, which I can understand)
Devil Survivor Overclocked
Persona 3
Jack Bros.
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>replaying Apocalypse to do Bonds
>have Black Rider on me since he was my DDS demon
>get to Aniel
>one shots BD with Ziodyne
I mean, I know it's a scripted fight, but do you expect me to believe that Ziodyne does 700 DMG to a level 99 demon?
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>>164830380
Use Fog Breath.

>>164755401
Either way is fine, I guess. I just find it amusing they'd place a trap in such a high position.

Speaking of Soul Hackers, does anyone know why Atlus USA changed Redman's name to Kinap? Did they find it too racist?

At first, I didn't like the change, but after some research, I found that Kinap was a hero in Mi'kmaq tribe's folklore, which makes sense, as Soul Hackers is focused on Algonquian mythos. This might be the first example of a good localisation change I've seen in a while.
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smt with p5 demon models and apocalypse gameplay when
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So I finished SMTIV.

Is it natural to think that the game I just played was complete fucking trash?

Why was this simultaneously so easy and cheap? Seriously, the only times I actually died in this game are when the game randomly decided to have the enemy go first and then kill me with literally zero input on my part.
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>>164833137
>play Strange Journey
>the game keeps you on your toes throughout and throws more and more dangerous stratums, boss fights, and side quests at you over time

>play SMT4
>The genuine difficulty of the game caps at the first two bosses and then falls off a cliff
>every encounter is facerolled with damage, with occasional deaths to smirk
>meanwhile the sidequests are a slot machine where you pray that the boss doesn't go first and doesn't crit before you kill him

You really aren't wrong for having these thoughts
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>>164831919
Nice bait. Seriously, I almost fell for that one for a second.
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YOUR ASS IS MINE
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>>164763951
My main problem with Nozomi was her new English VA.
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>>164833137
You are absolutely right.

4A fixes the combat a lot.

>>164832169
For the Japs, injuns are as exotic as zulu tribesmen are to us.

For us, we kinda need an actual injun chief name for injun spirit.
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>>164833594
>the game keeps you on your toes
except the game throws a broken anti phys armor at you and makes you invincible to random encounters as long as you have high luck and mag.
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>>164805612
>>164806347
>>164810210
3spooky5me

Please post more
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>>164831346
All the SMT games are good. Leagues better than almost all other stuff I've played. /smtg/ just loves hating the games.
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>>164810210
>yfw Gaea Rage
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Post rare hoys.
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Get rekt, false god.

Btw, who was the Female Voice? Sophia? Gabby? Lucifer?
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>>164843627
no.
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Hey there guys.
I finally have enough money to get a 3ds, or 2DS, and finally get my hands on SMT IV.

I gotta ask though is there really any reason to even get the "new" versions of the 3ds, or XL? Is the 3D gimmick even ever good? Should I just get a 2DS?
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>>164847365
The 3D is so shit even Nintendo nearly stopped using it because it fucks up games.

That said, you're better off buying an used Old 3DSXL than a 2DS because it's a lot more comfortable to use but your mileage may vary on this.

> any reason to even get the "new" versions of the 3ds, or XL?
Only if you want to play an handful of games like Xenoblade Chronicles, that Legend of Zelda Musou or the new Pokémon.
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>>164847365
Depends if you hack it or not.
N3DS you can inject SNES games into it, and capture video off it without a capture card.

If that don't interest you, then just go with a 2DS since the 3D gimmick is just a gimmick that's not really interesting.
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>>164848006
>>164848047
Alright. Thanks guys I appreciate it.
I'll probably nab a used XL then.
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>>164846802
Yes.
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>>164832916
It will be announced alongside Devil Survivor 3 for Switch, SMT GO, a new Devil Summoner, and a musou spinoff during a livestream celebrating the series anniversary. My dad works at Atlus.
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>>164851504
>Devil Survivor 3 for Switch
PS4/Vita/3ds/anything that isn't the Switch port when.
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>>164851504
>Switch
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Hoy
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>>164856865
yoh
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>>164856865
Mañana
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>>164856865
>unnamed hoys
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>>164858338
>not liking unindentified hoys
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was devil children red/black book translation ever finished?
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So what is more likely?

1) Team Maniax spent 3 years on SMT4A and only started brainstorming their next project in January 2016 just like Yamai said in interviews;
2) Team Maniax spent 3 years on SMT4A but somewhere around 1,5 years of development Yamai took about a half of the team and started brainstorming their next project so they might have enough material for a trailer in 2017.
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>>164851578
>>164852063
Why do people think it's impossible when Overclocked was released during the first year of 3DS when it was considered a failure?
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>>164860541
I don't think it's impossible, I just don't want to buy a Switch.
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>>164860627
considering how positive nintendo and atlus's relationship is going it's obvious that some games are going to the switch.
maybe even a new smt soon
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epn7Ne7-iMc
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>>164862841
>not this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETikJ6VVnjw
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>>164862000
>it's obvious that some games are going to the switch.
Yes, just as obvious as Wii U's original 3rd party support right? Regardless, I'll just buy a Switch later on when it's piratable.
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around some time ago i stopped playing smt games but i'm feeling the need to play some rpgs recommend me one
the ones i played
kyuyaku (MT1 and MT2), SMT1, SMT 2, last bible SMT IV and persona 1.
i can't play the games on ps2 and foward, and i can't play the ones on the 3ds because mine was stolen
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>>164863269
i said atlus games in general and we got some on the wii u.
that's why i even said "maybe even a new smt"
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>>164863368
Play Persona 2/3 on the PSP. Otherwise pick up DevilChildren on the GBA.
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>>164863549
We, indeed, got one Atlus game that is divisive as fuck by the time the Wii U is nearly dead. I'm not saying the Switch won't get any Atlus game though. I'm just laughing at the idea of the Switch being any different of the Wii U.
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>>164863645
i know that light/dark versions are pretty diferent from each other, how much different they are?
okay i might try dark version then.
i hope one day i'll be able to play black/red
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>>164863840
Light is easier but has less demons or something while Dark is harder and has more demons. Story is slightly different in each version though.
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>>164864105
i only choose dark because the battle theme sounds cooler
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>>164864406
That's actually one of the most valid reasons you can have.
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>finds a book about how to summon demons on the school library
>"let's go summon some demons"
why does that make me laugh so much
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>>164866016
All in a good day of school.
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>>164867440
also teach dangerous demons some manners
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>>164867972
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Stop going the Law route.
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>>164868679
Stop LARPing you chuunibyou manchild.
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>>164868679
I always go Law because it sounds like the best option, but immediately regret it when watching the epilogues.
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>>164868679
I never go Law.
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>>164868679
The only good Law route is Amane's in Devil Survivor.
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>>164870156
This.
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>>164868679
but i'm playing dark version and i'm pretty sure that's the chaos route
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>>164868679
SMT4's law route was the only good ending.

And SMT4A's law and chaos routes have the added benefit of you not having to play through Scratchland.
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>>164872027
>SMT4's law route was the only good ending.
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why only in demikids/devil children pixie is male anyway?
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>>164872726
Because the other Pixies are female (male).
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>>164872726
Probably supposed to be Puck
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>Dagda says something something Hallelujah is a spy and he shouldn't join
>Asahi agrees that it's actually bad idea
>Choose to leave Hallelujah behind
>Asahi is like "What are you saying, Nanashi?" and persuades to let him join
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Okay. I updated the tier list.
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>>164877668
10/10

I don't see this chart very often, but it is damn hilarious.
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Anyone else thinks that if they come out with some virtual reality thing which I believe they are working on currently,that one of the games should be like devil survivor lol?. I have played resident evil,played this game,seen enough horrors to know what not to do haha,etc. I think I'd be fine,on top that counting real life,I have nearly died more times than I could count . Where do I begin,nearly got killed by a tornado twice,nearly got ran over by insane people many times,done some ridiculous stunts like trying to surf my bro when young calculating the speed and distance,miscalculated on that and flew out of the pool and into a group of Mexicans...that did not make sense,but eh. Oh yeah,avoided falling trees,nearly fell off the balcony,you just name it and it probably happened . My fortune is horrible,but I'm still alive ^^. Now back to the point at hand, a virtual reality simulator based on this game would be fun. That or Shadow Heart,have to admit in that game one of the bosses looked like the Grudge and man that freaked me out ._.
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i am rusty on smt or most demons are early on are shitty?
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>>164878376
In the early game of older tittles, yes.
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>>164876460
Quality writing.
Apocalypse is a masterpiece, right?
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>>164881039
Oh, Gaston just showed up. I guess it's going to get even better than just a masterpiece.
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>>164882309
You should set him as your partner.
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>>164876460
Why do they even bother with the options if they're gonna force this shit on you anyway? It happens every time in Apocalypse. Who gives a shit about the penalties in the end?
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>>164883160
Yeah, I did that as soon as I read he has physical attacks.
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>>164884471
Gaston does some of the best damage of the damage dealing partners.

Unfortunately... he has some other issues.
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Whatever, I love this game now-ho!
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>>164877668
Ronaldo and Diversity being so high disgusts me.

>Implying the Local Law Gods do anything but sit on their asses to suck the winners cock.
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>>164877668
Odin and Salvation go together. Nothing about them is seperate.
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>>164884326
To show how little choice you have and prove Dagda right. Asahi uses bonds to keep you oppressed, Dagda is honest about about his control of your life.
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>>164887758
Is there a Black Frost outfit anywhere?
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>>164888074
fuck off fagda.
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>>164875639
Pucks a Cupid (Angel) in DEVIL CHILDREN.

>>164872726
Same reason Dagon's a girl
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>>164888074
>Begging for the Dagdick so bad
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>>164888168
Dagda being honest and right doesn't stop him from an angsty little shit whose momma won't let him be hardcore.
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>>164888316
Dagda doesn't have a dick and if he does I'm too scared to ask if it's his club. Someone should chop it off just in case.
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Do Inanna's Raging spells have anything over the standard severe skills or nah? It doesn't have a lower MP cost or anything. I like keeping signature skills on demons, but there's a limit, and giving you weaknesses pushes it pretty far over the line.
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>>164888316
Why would Skellygod have a dick?
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>>164890320
Remove them.
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>>164890320
Replace them with standard severe, ain't worth keeping the Raging magic attacks.
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>>164894170
Cute.
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>>164606231
IV's hunter association for sure
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>>164890617
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>>164895854
>>
>Use YHWH to get rid of the center's filth
>kills him right after so he won't try to fuck with the new world of the chosen ones
>Satan outright calls you the new Mary and Jesus
>Goes back to earth on a pyramid spaceship as the old space movie like law theme plays

10/10 no wonder this won't ever be localized
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>>164846760
ur mom
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>>164890754
>>164890937
That's what I figured. Thanks.
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>>164868679
>Vaguely white pride meme
>Advocating Chaos and foreign deities

Go back to /pol/
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>>164877668
>not being a maurologist
FUCKING FUCKED FUGGITIY FAGGOTS FUCKS
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>>164901635
I want to shave the pubes of your Mara.
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>>164877668
>God Tier
>Not YHVH
Or alternatively
>Not Solar Hinduism

Nice try.
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>>164901434
>using law as a straw man for diversity and Danu faggotry
fuck off Neogaf
>>
AVATAR TUNER 2 FUCKING WHEN
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Holy shit
Why is EraMegaten so fucking based?
Better gameplay than any official game by miles.

A million Thank (You)s to the anon that uploaded that link
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>>164905451
what link
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>>164905750
I didn't get around to playing it until maybe a month after I had downloaded it. I'll see if I can find it in the archives.

I honestly don't get why it isn't attached to the OP posts of these threads.
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>>164905451
>Google it
>Looks like the UI of some nip dwarf fortress
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>>164906275
The environments that you search are in ASCII

I think this is the latest version?
https://mega.nz/#!y8BwiZzK!KTdpofLL4namNu1TZy0nuFHK9HCsdlMW3-Oufx0JVjQ
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>>164863368
Persona 2 IS Remastered on PSP can be emulated easy on even a potato.
So no reason not to pick up the easiest persona game. Though if you play the PS1 version of eternal punishment afterwards the transition might leave a bad taste in your mouth. Both have fantastic characters, and a decent story if you're willing to play both for them.

Also P2 is my favorite in the persona series. So this is definitely a biased opinion.
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>>164907109
What gets worse going from PSP IS to PS1 EP?
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>>164907109
i'll try soon but so i loved persona 1 and i hate that people keep talking shit about it.
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>>164907279
Basically a modernized UI, and less clunky combat system. Then going to the opposite of that on an old PS1 game.
If only Atlus translated the PSP remake of EP, but we can't win em all.

Just watch a fight or two on the PSP remake of is then on the PS1 version of EP. It's just an outdated mess in comparison. Gameplay wise.

>>164907405
Yeah, I liked P1.
I played the PSP remake of that as well.
Enjoyed my time with it for sure.
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>>164907405
>loved persona 1
how is that stockholm syndrome
>>
>>164907797
It's not so bad.
I mean. It's better than Persona Q.
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>>164907797
people say it like it's the worst thing ever and it's impossible to enjoy it.
it's not really that bad
>>
>>164908016
Everything is better than Persona Q.
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Quick someone stream Tokyo Revelation.
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>>164908173

Sub-personas are the best thing to happen to the series in a decade.

fucking wildcard snowflake bullshit
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>>164909529
Sub-personas need to become part of the main series. Needs persona affinities though.
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>>164905451
>>164906014
>download it
>just get stuck on "Connecting to DDS NET"
>pc freezes
do i need to download more malware?
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>>164910123
Congratulations, you'll receive your demon summoning program when the time comes.
>>
>>164908016
>>164908071
Persona 1 is the last Persona I haven't played yet. Is it actually worth playing, or is it merely not pure suffering? Not really into the clunkiness and lack of QOL in old games, so it'd have to be pretty good to overcome that.
>>
>>164910123
Did you try going into the program or into the emuera hook?
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>>164877668
Is Spookiness an offshoot of Repair Garage-ism or what? Second time I've seen this and it's still left out.
>>
>>164911495
emuera hook
did i fucked it up?
>>
>>164907405
I have a weird relation with P1 I hate it yet it's the megaten I replayed the most. I beat it around 6 times (counting both routes individually) and I hate myself every time I do it since the gameplay is so shit.
>>
hama
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>>164915198

I know this feel.

>Do not give a fuck about FF4
>Still somehow own pretty much every version of it.
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I'm playing Apocalypse now and regret not playing IV before it, the story is pretty fucking cool
>>
>>164919715
I wish we could transfer at least one demon from IV to Apocalypse.
>>
>>164918984
>Do not give a fuck about FF4
But that's the best main final fantasy game. What's wrong with you?
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>>164919825
>Any demon with Occult Flash
>Broken, double-Charge Uriel
>Mot that you painstakingly made with DFL so that it had Guardian's Eye

To be honest, some of them are redundant with certain mechanical changes between the games.
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>>164920482
>But that's the best main final fantasy game
5, 6 and 9 are better.
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>>164920482
>FF1 let you choose any combination of six jobs for your party at the start of the game.
>FF2 was a proto SaGa character growth system
>FF3 expanded the job system.
>FF4 comes along and removes any semblance of party customization.

FF4 was a gigantic step backwards for the series.
>>
>>164911936
You're fine, kid
Sorry for leaving you hanging, I'm at work
>>
>>164921352
And the story was a Star Wars ripoff.
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jfleA3UOBR0
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desu is trash
>>
nocturne is trash
>>
im trash
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>>164924189
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>>164918984
> This will make Master [Nanashi] love me! (Nyan )
> ...Hey, but, Toki, doesn't this embarrass you almost to death? (Wan)

Trying to learn moon was a mistake if it led to me staring at this for so long.

only half of it was spent trying to figure out what to use for HEART (wo) GET
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>there will never be a MegaTen with a better story than Persona 2
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>>164924476
persona 2 is shit my dude
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>>164924687
I respectfully disagree with your opinion
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Shoji is best Devil Survivor girl.
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>>164925020
>Human women.
>>
hee-hoy!
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>>164925723
>going for demon women
>>
>tfw no luck in Nocturne so demon recruiting is an exercise in tedium
>>
>>164924476
Apocalypse, Devil Survivor 2, just about any game made after Notverygoodturne.
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>>164906891
>mega

Nice try Stephen, I'm not downloading your malware.
>>
>>164877668
Why does Thor want everyone to have equal followers anyway?
He should be chaos if anything, all about fighting.
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Hoy.

>>164925020
Underrated girl.
>>
Is Kaneko kill?
>>
Endure
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Should I consider getting a PS4 or is there a chance of someone patching the Japanese-English script for the PS3 when it comes out?
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>>164925020
Don't joke around
>>
>>164947596
Just buy it on PS3 if you don't want to buy a PS4.

>>164947695
I want to play 20XX!
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>>164947596
>patching the Japanese-English script
the what
>>
About to start SMTIV:A, I want to play with a dex build but is it decent? What should my stat spread look like?

And what's the process exactly anyway? I played Mag in IV which made it easy to use the right element for press turns, but what do I do with ammo instead?
>>
>>164948802
any build is good in 4A
>>
>>164948802
There's elemental ammoto get more press turns against bosses, and ailment ammo for regular enemies, You'll have enough spots left for one or two spells.
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>>164907405
Persona 1 is the only Persona with good gameplay anyway.
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>>164907405
I think P1 had my favorite cast.
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When is the next SMT game coming out?
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>>164952819
April 4th.
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>>164953014
>nakajima, hacker, and stephen talking about computers
I want more crossover interactions.
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>>164953106
they should put that gay kid in too
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>>164887882
http://eirikrjs.blogspot.com/2016/08/apocalypse-artbook.html#more

Nope, read the interview. In case you aren't aware the divine powers are just like the humans and angels in game. Groups of people with different ideologies working together, since atlus decided a literal race war where each side cares more about their race winning than about their internal ideological differences would make sense. Krishna, odin, and maitreya each have different ideologies. Even maitreya, despite sounding similar to krishna. In the interview they talk about how the game was going to show the infighting, but although that was taken out you still get hints of it, like odin describing his own goal.

In fact, maitreya is meant to be chaos leaning, odin is neutral leaning, and krishna is law leaning. The same polarity of your characters and the angels exists for them. The group overall is "neutral" for the same reason your human group in bonds is. Krishna being law and buddhist shit being chaos is actually calling to mind earlier games, but in this world they are shirking playing second fiddle to the angels of their respective alignments.
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>>164952819
Maybe in two years.
>>
COMPLETE
>>
DANGER
>>
ZONE
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>>164911439
No idea how I missed this.
Either buy, or emulate the PSP remastered version.

Look up some gameplay if it doesn't interest you ignore it. It's a mixed bag for me. I liked the story, and characters. Though the gameplay felt off at times.

The game has two story lines you can follow, and a bunch of missable flags.

https://youtu.be/A_sR-LFfZAU
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