/wpsg/ - WoW Private Servers General

first for wpsg is dead. no more icecastle for you.

i gave up.
im just playing on warmanse wotlk server because of the population.
atleast warmane is not going away and is always available.

So is the hellground revival really happening? Meer and co. are coming back, arent they?

File: metzen.jpg (64KB, 500x361px) Image search: [Google]

64KB, 500x361px

>>164367557
Meer and co will not be able to resist the temptation that is fresh progressive Hellground. T. Finnish man.

>>164367818
Dude I don't know if Meer leading is going to get us anywhere. We really need some fresh blood for leadership, somebody to step up and organize the damn guild. But people up for that are all WOTLK players who want raid ICC all day long on a WOTLK funserver.

got link for the old thread?

File: g.jpg (10KB, 480x360px) Image search: [Google]

10KB, 480x360px

>>164368960
Its still in the archive:
>>164237352

But it was made by some vanilla babby mad about people discussing better servers in their leddit-ridden thread.

Anyone playing on roleplay heaven?

>>164369632
you mean frostgale?

where did the gd kids go anyway? one would have thought they would never get enough of wrath.

>>164370686

some of the gd kids are playing with normie guilds, because they cant get enough of 24/7 icc farming

>>164372854
God damn. Hope old Video Games fuya come back for HG, maybe even Alliance this time for a change.

I have never really played WoW... Can I join some of you guys in a private server and be pro-tier healer?

TBC is the only wow content im hyped for now. I started retail during TBC but I was a total noob and never progressed past dungeons so there's so much raid content that I have never done. I hope HG or Netherwing is decent enough

>>164370686
>No more english banters during raids to fuel us.
I'm really missing it desu senpai.

>>164373886

Finns havent decided will they make finns only + mascots or international guild.

File: WoWScrnShot_010316_203425.jpg (339KB, 1920x1200px) Image search: [Google]

339KB, 1920x1200px

>>164373869
I wish i could have fun on hellground again...

File: wowalluf.jpg (100KB, 367x712px) Image search: [Google]

100KB, 367x712px

>>164376116
Yeah, looks likely we will play since so many people in the guild got excited about the HG news. Not sure about faction nor language yet either as you said. Regarding faction, was even weighting Alliance due to the faction balance which will inevitably be Horde-favoured should the server gain enough mainstream interest.

Bmup

>>164372854
>Not blaming it on the crack/heroin addict of a tank.

>>164378501
they were all shit players on a shit funserver was the problem

>>164376629
Do alliance please so sick of horde TBC
make ret babies cry

File: vittu onko sulla kaikki kondikses.jpg (35KB, 504x504px) Image search: [Google]

35KB, 504x504px

>>164383692

Kylä

File: we'reallfamilynow.png (6KB, 647x180px) Image search: [Google]

6KB, 647x180px

>>164384436
>Kylä

File: 198928739.jpg (22KB, 330x338px) Image search: [Google]

22KB, 330x338px

>>164384684

File: 1463999124699.png (79KB, 587x573px) Image search: [Google]

79KB, 587x573px

>>164383692

:DDDD

File: 1477593625609.png (242KB, 1269x1268px) Image search: [Google]

242KB, 1269x1268px

>>164383692
yes, but where is guki?

File: 1477619848628.png (112KB, 1060x852px) Image search: [Google]

112KB, 1060x852px

Everyone please go vote on this poll to release T5 at launch time, its the most important thing at the moment. It will kill the server to farm T4 for weeks.

http://forums.hellground.net/topic/49090-open-discussion/

>>164389230
gonna shill for the good choices aka blizzlike.

File: 1276280969608-1.jpg (36KB, 500x375px) Image search: [Google]

36KB, 500x375px

>>164389230
>some people literally wanting no tier 5 for release
What kind of a mongoloid do you have to be to seriously want to farm kara and gruul for half a year?

File: spurdo tarantino.png (12KB, 704x600px) Image search: [Google]

12KB, 704x600px

>>164390603

polish potato farmer

>>164389230
>>164390603
They should release T4 and PvP season 1, then 1-2 months later open T5, then when a guild finishes T5 end pvp season1, wait a month and start pvp season 2.

literally the only good way to do it without compromising pvp integrity.

File: private_server_pvp_hero.jpg (18KB, 480x360px) Image search: [Google]

18KB, 480x360px

>>164391521
Nobody gives a shit about your esports integerity in a roleplaying game, Ivan

>>164392090
>i don't care about pvp integrity
>i think there will be and real integrity in a buggy polish knock off server that can't fix netherspite in 3 years
alright

>>164392574
Good for you now go back to Deathside for your Russian speaking crossfaction arenas.

>>164365419
This is so biased against Gummy. You can roll Hellground and then wait for Gummycraft since it'll probably be years before it releases, if ever.

File: WoWScrnShot_010217_205928.jpg (296KB, 1440x900px) Image search: [Google]

296KB, 1440x900px

>2017
>not playing hellground

File: WoWScrnShot_010217_210711.jpg (411KB, 1920x1018px) Image search: [Google]

411KB, 1920x1018px

>>164397159

hd version of same screenshot

File: captain poland.jpg (289KB, 1673x943px) Image search: [Google]

289KB, 1673x943px

>>164370686
still here you faggot

>>164397159
I would play on hellground if I wasn't stuck at work ;_;

>wpsg? More like dead wannabe Nost server general

>>164398364
god damn it jacketto

File: izWaP4.jpg (42KB, 400x353px) Image search: [Google]

42KB, 400x353px

>>164398581
how fucking brainded you have to be to raid molten core for 5 years on a bug ridden mangos shitserver
>>164389230
it's theater of dreams all over again
hellground will be dead in 1 month
>>164383445
this is objectively wrong as the guild didn't have any burgerclaps in the roster

>>164399436
there have been burgers in almost every gd guild though

>>164392090
Whether or not you like it, arena was apart of TBC.

File: ScreenShot0498.jpg (488KB, 1920x1080px) Image search: [Google]

488KB, 1920x1080px

>>164373869
>>164367557
Of course we're coming back.

>>164403468
I have no problem with arena, I have a problem with people who think the game was designed around it.

>>164404672
HYPE
Y
P
E

>fresh progressive wotlk server
>1.7k players online

im gonna roll on this, anybody wanna do raf if they have it?

>>164407096
Sunwell?

Argies are the best players after finns

>21 posters

top kek, the only private server worth playing is nost, this isn't a general take this retarded shit back to your anime themed discord servers sperglords.

>>164407460
oh yes those white as snow argies are the best

>>164407685
But I don't like vanilla nor having to queue every time I want to play a game, never you mind the world being so packed its nothing like playing the game back in the day.

>the only private server worth playing is nost
The other servers we've played before haven't gone anywhere and now there's plenty of new stuff coming out. I mean, you go ahead and spend all the time you want on Nost but I don't see the appeal.

>>164408745
>can't handle being social
>wants to play single player wow

lol just make your own little server to play with yourself shitlord.

>>164409034
Having to constantly fight for mobs, nodes and other resources has nothing to do with social gameplay, the game was designed for around 1500 people per shard which by the way was the Vanilla hardcap. Oh, and you may want to look this concept called Dunbar's Number up sometime - how many of those 10K people do you really socialize with in the end?
Now, back to /nosg/ to chat with the other ledditors, you.

Who's organizing a guild? Any idea on faction?

File: 1457094313436.gif (128KB, 728x426px) Image search: [Google]

128KB, 728x426px

this just has to be the most autistic general on /vg/ even when I take in consideration /ksg/ /utg/ /lolg/ and /d2g/.
>Make guilds full of autistic people that can only spam memes 24/7
>Change server every month
>Cliques so autistic that this entire general is just one big circlejerk
>Revive the general only to die again
What is the fucking point

>>164412798
Since this post is unadulterated autism I imagine you fit right in.

>>164412798
It only became that way after the WOTLK kiddies ran the thread over the original people slowly left.

>>164412798
>generalizing and being wrong in your entire post
>you're all autistic
Sounds like youre getting mad about things that aren't actually happening

>>164367547
Whats /vg/ consensus of This server?

Looks fun by the population Numbers but there is always a catch

>>164419183
hello

>>164423767

pay to win, custom scripts

How much easier are Wrath's 25H raids compared to TBC's raids (if they are easier)?

>>164430424
Hardmodes are harder than anything from TBC, but sunwell is much harder than the normals. Kind of hard to compare since TBC is progression based and wrath is challenge based.

I WANT TBC NOW

>>164442610
me fucking too, I can't wait for this shit. I have everything planned already. my only worry is that since hellground doesn't push the international thing it'll only have like 1-1.5k people max, 95% of which won't even attempt to speak english and forget trying to raid outside /vg/. why is it the poles that make most of the decent servers?

hi i saw wpsg was back and was wondering when the new gd guild was being made

>>164435891
>what is M'uru
you can outgear everything in WOTLK

>>164430424
Well, T7 and T9 and are worthlessly trivial. The only somewhat respectable bosses in those tiers are Sartharion10+3D (if you do it with 10-man gear only) and heroic Anub'arak-25. T6 as a whole was quite easy too for example but nothing at that level.

But when you think of Ulduar and ICC hardmodes alone instead of the whole WotLK package, it's more difficult to make a comparison. For example, gear scaling in WotLK was far greater so should we compare the bosses in state where they were first done (relevant WotLK bosses are typically tougher) or in BiS gear prior to that boss (in WotLK there's far more room to grow, especially in relation to final SWP bosses that were done and cannot really be done in anything but near-BiS gear in the first place). On similar note, while T6 is relatively easy, early TBC raids were nerfed and indirectly nerfed (2.3/2.4 badge gear, ZA loots) quite heavily and not too many people got to see the "real" versions even in retail. In private server context 3.3.5a talents are also a huge indirect nerf to Ulduar which leaves ICC that actually tends not to have too many mechanically involved encounters where WotLK (read: Ulduar) generally has an advantage.

There's no doubt in my mind that Firefighter/Lich King world firsts took greater hardship than any world first in TBC and if you transferred SK Gaming/Nihilum/Method roster from 2008 to 2010, they couldn't have competed. Indeed, this is to be expected because they had thousands of hours more experienced playing and running the guild. Yoggy+0 in 2.1 patch is also definitely more difficult than anything in TBC no matter how you twist it (same reason as M'uru: you can't brute force it with gear). But if you do the bosses like most guilds do - overgearing them due to slower progression - I'm reluctant to say there's much difference. Even in terms of execution I don't really see it given that WotLK boss mechanics are compensated for by more powerful WotLK abilities and talents.

>>164430424
There are a handful of actually challenging heroic encounters in Wrath, namely, Mimiron, Yoog+0 and LK. Nothing else really comes close to Sunwell's difficulty or the difficulty of Kael/Vashj before their nerfs imo. Even your run of the mill bosses feel more difficult in TBC to me at least even though they often lack mechanics, probably because the punishment is greater (losing your consumables, repairs being greate and corpse run distances being greater, not to forget respawning trash that takes time to clear.)

The biggest difference between WOTLK and TBC encounter difficulty is probably caused class design, because its completely different in the two. In WOTLK for example, healers cannot really oom so the required players skills for healers become somewhat different. A lot of classes also have saving abilities they lack in TBC, stuff like that. So with that in mind, its also difficult to compare the two. Oh, and don't forget about threat practically going away in WOTLK.

As an example of the differences between the two exansions, think of Felmyst's adds in TBC versus WOTLK. In TBC, picking the adds up properly requires a paladin tank and a good one at that, with two to three tanks assisting, and handling the phase proper is a damn big job for them. Of course, this phase in particular is not exactly the most difficult thing in the world, but where as in TBC it actually requires something from the tank(s), in WOTLK it would be completely trivial due to ranged taunts, massive AoE from all of the tanking classes, no threat(!), not to forget the self heals and saving abilities some classes would now have to fend mobs off of them.

Biggest quirk for me in wotlk is the amount of just ignoring the mechanics and just bruteforce everything. With endless mana and threat its just matter of braindead dps to do their work. Which leads to just epeeing with useless meter shitposting and so on and so on.

Money is heavily inflated in wotlk, repairs cost nothing, money floods in your bags from everywhere and you dont need to farm anything to progress your character, only farmable thing is SoH rep what you can bypass by levelling up a moneymaking profession.

Wotlk in a nutsell for me is definition of raid logging. And que simulation in Dalaran.

Don't forget to vote:
http://forums.hellground.net/topic/49090-open-discussion/

>>164460039
>http://forums.hellground.net/topic/49090-open-discussion/
everything going wrong!

>>164462236
what a surprise considering its taking place on the hg forums. only the hardcore casual poles of the server really ever browsw it and since aleas gm (doomnyx) has retarded opinions, their whole guild (largest on hellground) probably votes as he does.

>>164462236
>>164466798
I don't think it looks too bad now, yesterday T5 was at 25% where as now its nearing 50, and revered for heroic reps was about the same. Looks like Reddit or some other place caught wind of what was happening.

>>164451891
>3.3.5 talents are a huge nerf to ulduar
>even though the last major talent revamp was ulduar patch
>inb4 muh spriest haste
>muh spirit 30% spell damage bonus

>>164468451
ulduar gear doesn't even give enough haste, check old videos they have pretty much the same dps as seen with 3.3.5 talents

>>164469258
I know ulduar gear has more crit on it, i was just using it as an example

wwu @ atlantiss cata, alliance

File: f.jpg (54KB, 800x705px) Image search: [Google]

54KB, 800x705px

>>164471525
Nah m8 hellground is the real deal

File: 41355413.jpg (107KB, 1000x1000px) Image search: [Google]

107KB, 1000x1000px

Hellground faction?

>>164471721
>cata

The server I play on is just adopting MoP. I have a frost mage and a disc priest. Thoughts on the expansion?

>>164473827
HG is TBC m8

File: wow_metzen2.png (542KB, 614x860px) Image search: [Google]

542KB, 614x860px

>>164473897
>Playing any expansion past WOTLK
End yourself.

File: 1483092254782.jpg (28KB, 480x480px) Image search: [Google]

28KB, 480x480px

After you old boy.

>>164473907
we're waiting for (You) on atlantiss' /cata/ server, so unless hellground is the new hot cata server I dont see how its relevant here

>>164474368
Cuckumbers, is that you?

le aunt poisoner

>>164474585
based retard

>>164474585
>>164474692

kys yourselves

File: WoWScrnShot_070214_232547.jpg (348KB, 1366x768px) Image search: [Google]

348KB, 1366x768px

>>164376314
Damn bro.

>>164475657
>(dst res)

So who is leading the new guild and what faction? I don't really care but it would be cool to do alliance TBC since it's always about horde.

Is hoping for a comfy pop ~2,500 peak ~1,000 lows too optimistic for HellShit?

>>164476184
FInns seem to be going Alliance too, pretty likely.

>Is hoping for a comfy pop ~2,500 peak ~1,000 lows too optimistic for HellShit?
No, it used to have a pop of that level though the lows were much lower with no NA pop. The server seems to be gaining on hype and gaining new much more international players now though. Even ToD had 2k+ after launch and that server was much less known by the internatinal crowd (and also completely abandoned by Poles).

File: shhhhh.png (18KB, 297x372px) Image search: [Google]

18KB, 297x372px

>>164476408
Any Finns who can reach out to someone on the HG team and help them avoid becoming ToD2.0?

Finns making an international guild or accepting token burgers?

>>164476650
>Finns making an international guild or accepting token burgers?
Its not decided yet, but always accepting token burgers no matter what.

WoWFreakz wwu!

>>164476408
>>164476184
Well i like to be Alliance cuz im tired from horde.

>>164475657
why is nightbane in the menagerie

File: hgs custom brutallus+kalec hardmode.jpg (687KB, 1920x1200px) Image search: [Google]

687KB, 1920x1200px

>>164480363
Why is Brutallus at Kalecgos platform?

>>164480464
should I be worried? was the "HG has the best scripts ever" just a meerkat meme

>>164481718
Brutallus running to Kalec for whatever reason was a one-time glitch

>>164481782
what about fighting nightbane and curator at the same time for hard mode?

Is Hellground the only up and running TBC server worth playing?

>>164483678
yes

>>164484295
Oh well then, maybe a good server will launch one day.

*pinching my thighs really hard* i wont get fooled into rerolling on another shitserver by meer, i wont

>>164480464
just check videos from youtube

>>164481718

>>164485457

>>164484756
yes you will

File: cuckcumbers playtime.jpg (92KB, 639x426px) Image search: [Google]

92KB, 639x426px

>>164474368

File: ScreenShot0503.jpg (901KB, 1920x1080px) Image search: [Google]

901KB, 1920x1080px

>>164482245
This obviously doesn't happen on HG because Nightbane doesn't leave the roof.

>>164496793
at least you have good taste in girls you fucking faggot.

File: WoWScrnShot_122216_220656.jpg (258KB, 1440x882px) Image search: [Google]

258KB, 1440x882px

>>164496793
Hey he was actually fixed again during our Christmas Kara this year! It was a real challenge.

File: WoWScrnShot_120314_231021.jpg (290KB, 1768x992px) Image search: [Google]

290KB, 1768x992px

>>164499670
e/b/in were you able to defeat him??
>>164499613
Thanks!

File: nietoniedalo.jpg (88KB, 611x348px) Image search: [Google]

88KB, 611x348px

>>164451891
>muh 3.3.5 talents
I like how tbc autists forget to mention how later patches in tbc affected class power

let's just mention priests for a sec - 2.4.0 alone buffed mana regeneration by 100% and 2.4.3 made mediocre stat that was spirit the most absurd fucking stat in the game ever, basically rebalancing healing, healing gear and gearing your raid

if you combined all wotlk class balance changes it wouldn't be even 10% as impactful as mana changes in tbc

also rofl at healing skill in tbc, when 90% of you gameplay was casting 1 spell... and then canceling it... and then casting it... and then canceling... over and over again
abusing 5sec rule and baiting for that period when you could proc your clearcasting IF trinket was the only skillful thin in that expansion, and it was effectively promoting you NOT to heal, NOT to do things, NOT TO DO THINGS N THE GAME - truly amazing design apreciated only by the truest autists of this general

yes, wotlk made mana less of a resource and more of a huge bottomless energy bar, heavily dependent on your gear

it made healing action heavy and not boring, you went from tbc that wanted you to conserve your acions, to wotlk where you wanted to get the lowest GCD possible while maintaining reasonable +healing
I swear the only people I know that defend chainheal spam have to be autsits from wpsg

also lol at >muh threat
another mechanic that made people look at fucking artificial bar, making them stop being "too good" at their role

are we literally back boys?

>>164502024
in 3 weeks

File: WoWScrnShot_122216_210937.jpg (229KB, 1440x900px) Image search: [Google]

229KB, 1440x900px

>>164500732
No I'm afraid we didn't try him with the 6 people we had online at the end, but I already had the mount so I didn't care.

>>164365419
I have a lvl 20 and 10 on nost pve, but im considering going on hell ground because i miss tbc. does it have a friendly population?

>>164502480
How does the server feel about the wipe? Surly they recognize it was entirely too played out right?

>>164502663
Ma najbardziej przyjazny ludności.

>>164502674
Oh I'm not an expert not having played actively in a damn long time, but there doesn't seem to be much of a server left to be upset. Population had been dipping in the few hundreds for a while.

If you look at the HG forums, you will of course find a bunch of the server's natives complaining about having invested 8 years into their characters, but generally it seems to me people are positive, especially those who had quit prior and are now coming back.The people I talked to in-game yesterday when I logged in seemed to for the most part be pretty excited with one or two exceptions.

What faction should I roll on Hellground? Are both sides full of Poles or do they congregate on just one?

Horde will probably outnumber Alliance so all things being equal I'm considering going Alliance to even things up a bit.

>>164503009
dobre

how hard is it to learn other languages over video games? i hear non english speakers always learn english from talking to people on internet

>>164503392

I imagine it helps a lot, probably even more than reading shitposts on 4chan, because you're being forced to use the language in an actual environment and referring to concrete things.

File: jlOGFlJ.gif (2MB, 375x311px) Image search: [Google]

2MB, 375x311px

>>164501825
just wanted to add, since many of you autists have not played past tbc - there are still "threat fights" in later expansions and they are universally despised by most normally functioning people (read: not autists)
designing the fight for 25 people around 1 person, around 1 person having some artificial fucked-up tank minigame to do, some fucked up "perfect tank rotation" (lmao), some perfectly timed MDs, which no one else in the raid gives a shit - is retarded and you are retarded for liking it
you should all fucking kill yourself for liking shit game design

>>164503296
>Investing 8 years into a TBC server
I know that we talk a lot about autism but this..

Please just let this general die

>>164501825
>>164504048
Have a (You). Now (You) can go to bed. Good night.

>>164504232
No, Hellground will save us.

>>164504284
just woke up, shouldn't you be in bed tho? it's pretty late in finland

>>164503391
Hopefully we choose alliance.

>>164504232
There's no reason to actively want the general to die. Just ignore it if it offends you, retard.

>>164504621
I meant "going to bed" methaforically of course, like kyssing you're self.

>>164504048
People like you are the reason retail has become dogshit.

>>164407096
Fidus and Docfrosty are there
They don't have RaF yet, but you can buy 3x with vote points or premium points

>>164514802
and a few other /wpsg/ers

>>164504048
skate fast eat ass

>still 3 weeks away from hot TBC action
kill me

File: 1389574875823.jpg (461KB, 600x855px) Image search: [Google]

461KB, 600x855px

Maybe I'll bite this time. Since I'm getting too old for sick plays, which were the easiest class for TBC? Maybe Hunter?

Hunter is literally 1 macro class

>>164523927
Hunter is 1 button, but it has a bit of pet management since you actually want to keep the fucker alive because it's like half your DPS. Warlock is curse + shadowbolt which is probably easier, and the best DPS if I remember correctly. Mage is only fireballs.

>include sunwell but not northcraft in the OP

?????

File: image.jpg (17KB, 477x268px) Image search: [Google]

17KB, 477x268px

>>164527937
>mfw waiting for northcraft

>>164523927
why not spriest?people won't mind much if you can't dps that hard since you are effectively a mana battery for the rest of your group

>>164525876
That's more or less what I remember about hunters in raid.

>>164526304
Well, yeah, guess any ranged DPS is relatively easy.

>>164528603
Now that you say it, I always wanted to have a spriest.

I'll think about it during these weeks.

http://www.ac-web.org/forums/showthread.php?224255-NeXan-Warcraft

keep an eye out for this, won't be releasing anytime soon but definitely deserves more attention

might play hellground again, wonder what to play as on alliance, thinking ranged dps or healer maybe

>>164537680
I'll prolly roll a resto druid...spamming lifebloom most of the time isn't really exciting but I love how mobile they are...pretty good while leveling too

>>164538208
could never really get into playing druids for some reason, just didnt appeal to me. i usually play paladins,war,rogue,hunter,warlocks during BC and other BC pservers. might give druids a try again

File: 759794-warcraft_femaledraenei[1].jpg (60KB, 745x960px) Image search: [Google]

60KB, 745x960px

>>164537680
>>164538208
draenei paladin here, this is gonna be great

>>164528603
People do mind about getting less mana and while shadow priest is the lowest DPS spec in Sunwell gear (below frost,subtletly, balance and other PvP or meme specs), they actually perform well at low gear levels. And besides feral cats, arms warriors and such like, shadow is one of the more involved specs.

>>164539351
mm true draenie war/pally is 10/10

>>164539351
so.. what is that? A metallic battle thong?

I like it

>>164539541
ah yes...mana returned depends on damage done...I had forgotten that was the case

anyone got any gold making tips for fresh TBC server apart from farming elementals for primals?

>>164539990
>>164539351
Would she chaff?

>>164540492
the light keeps her lubed

What's the most fun class in TBC?

Which class got boned the most in TBC?

>>164540634
hope is protects her chest, stomach, and femoral arteries as well..because her armor doesn't. If you look, literally every non-essential point on her body is covered with armor, and vice versa. lol

>>164504232
nosg fags are truly weak, in commie gulak bydlo style, jealous of big american dicks

>>164540674
depends...do you want to do PvE?PvP?do you want to heal?tank?dps?

>>164541051

I want to have fun!

Are Paladins and Druids as gimped as they are in Vanilla?

>>164541543
Paladins
kings of trash tanking and can MT as well...rets are mediocre dps BUT they provide utility...they give 3% crit to the whole raid plus they renew all judgments on the boss with crusader strike...not great but definitely not meme...most 25-man raids will want a ret...I am not a big fan of holy paladins...good tank healers but boring imo

Druids
Arguably the best tanks at early content but I think they get worse later on...still viable...resto druids are good healers and they are BROKEN in pvp...dps wise I find both feral and boomkin quite meh

>>164541543
also horde rets are better than ally ones because they get seal of blood instead of shitty seal of vengeance

Hellground will be 2x just for 1-58, right? Or are we going to rush through Outland, too?

>>164511214
Retail got only better in pve design with every expac, but got worse as an MMO, which is a pleb tier genre to begin with.

>>164543673
think it's rush all the way which is stupi

>>164527937
doubt it will release as soon as you think m8

anyone got that dungeon/keys diagram picture?

Im curious if anyone of you knows a decent cataclysm server with high exp rates. Since i got no time to level on x1.

>>164541543
>Are Paladins and Druids as gimped as they are in Vanilla?
In TBC raiding all tanking classes are effectively required for certain encounters so in a sense they're identically good and viable. However, in another sense prot pala is a bitch job.

There are times to shine as the "main tank" (like tanking Reliquary of Souls P3 because mana burn does less damage than rage burn or solotanking Void Sentinels+Void Spawns on M'uru) but quite often you end up playing the second fiddle ("you take those murlocs while I tank this big badass sea giant boss thing") or almost uselessly standing around because on most encounters warrior is the go-to maintank and feral does 5x your DPS while not tanking. However, protadins ARE uncontestedly the strongest AoE tanks especially in terms of threat but also in damage reduction. On 5-mans I don't like playing one. At low gear levels you're by far the squishiest of the three classes and at high gear levels you often end up mana starved.

Conversely, bears have a good mix of survivability, single target threat and capable multi-mob tanking ability and I would consider the premier 5-man tanks. For raids they have by far the highest offthreat when not being hit, have the highest effective health (key for some "offtanking" jobs like Gruul or Mother Shahraz but also for some maintanking ones like Brutallus, seeing as that Brutallus can't deal crushing blows). Moreover, feral has very easy time gearing up with some exceptionally good craftables (Heavy Clefthoof set) or rep items (Earthwarden) easily accessible. Feral cats on the other hand are in principle competitive in T4 but they have poor scaling. However, feral can use the same spec for tanking and DPS and every time you need less than 2 tanks, you're probably going kitty.

>>164550803
>>164541543
That was the tanking specs covered. In terms of healing, both resto and holy are primarily tank healers and better than priests and shamans who are more suited for raid healing. Paladin can push really high HPS on demand with Holy Lights while druid smooths out damage spikes with HoTs and can spend the rest of their globals as they see fit. Ideally a raid would have one of each because 1 pala+1 druid is better at tank healing than two of either.

And for balance/ret, the situation with balance is fairly clear-cut. You have party buffs but if you do the math, your personal DPS+raid DPS contribution is something like 90% of just taking another mage or lock in most realistic scenarios. Consequently, having a moonkin in the raid isn't a HUGE handicap but the only encounter where it's actually GOOD is High King Maulgar (because you can tank the shaman without getting hexed) and subsequently balance is a meme spec.

Ret is a more difficult matter, especially considering there's a difference between alliance and horde (seal of blood is the premier DPS seal). For Horde ret tends to be a raid DPS increase over taking another rogue/fury warrior (certainly if you can't have protadin speccing into and judging Improved Seal of the Crusader on the mobs at hand, which they'd rather not do anyway) because their buffs need to make up for smaller loss in personal DPS. For Alliance it's so-so. There's many benefits to ret (protading not having to go through said trouble, keeping up judgements from holy/prot pallies and subsequently giving the raid mana and health the value of which is difficult to quantify, being able to give a third blessing without having to buff outside the raid or replacing resto druid with second holy pally which isn't a good idea in terms of healing but you want the bless) and I'd personally take one but strictly speaking it probably isn't a raid DPS increase.

Hellground getting a server wipe? Cool, guess it's time for TBC again.

>>164550803
>>164550850

Damn, thanks for the write-up anon!

>>164543673
have you ever leveled tbc or wotlk in 1x? 8h levels are not fun, and no server should be doing this

>>164552721

I leveled to 70 in retail. It was fun.

>>164552721
I think they are fun, its part of character progression and makes reaching max feel more rewarding. Also really can't complain about WOTLK or TBC leveling being too slow - length of each level has little meaning when there's only 10 levels to play yet tons of content for it all.

>>164550803
>>164550850
well i guess i'll give druid a try, this was really helpful

>>164481782
>>164482245
>>164496793
Well im orginal poster of that nightbane pic and its only happened one time while i do like over 200 times kara on HG. Thats why i took Screenshot. Sometimes shit happens on HG.

hellground when???

>>164407685

>anime gayshit discord

So you want us back on nosg? Retarded redditor

File: 2017-01-04-140851_687x362_scrot.png (44KB, 687x362px) Image search: [Google]

44KB, 687x362px

We did it, Reddit!

>>164365419
Time to learn Polish I guess.

>>164560501
Siema pl

So when is Northcraft and this fresh TBC server

>>164559236
Based

>>164559236

This is a good thing. No need to carry shitters on heroics since they cant enter at honored

pls fix the kiting and I will roll

Guys, redpill me on nostalrius/elyseum. Is it online/working ? I missed a few episodes.

>>164566151
You'll have to refer to the /nosg/ redditors for that.

>>164566151
Vanilla was beyond terrible and the only good part was doing dungeons and raids with your online/real friends.

Well, the 10/15 man dungeons were fun, until they changed it. Also the first, more siege, AV. But guess these doesn't exist in private servers.

>>164566653
I had a lvl 60 on nostalrius before it shut down, so I'm wondering if I can pick it up now.

>>164566982

1. Go to catalog
2. Press ctrl+f
3. Type in nosg
4. Go to the thread and ask there
5. You are welcome

File: bääbää.png (98KB, 443x443px) Image search: [Google]

98KB, 443x443px

>>164554757

also known as

just hellground things ™

File: amycucker.jpg (91KB, 960x684px) Image search: [Google]

91KB, 960x684px

>>164365419
What are some fun classes to play in TBC?

Is anything other than warrior tanking viable?
is warrior levelling still a pain in the ass?
Do all classes have viable dps specs?

>>164570767
>Is anything other than warrior tanking viable?

see:
>>164550803

>>164570767
>What are some fun classes to play in TBC?
MMORPGs are boring, vidya is boring, life is boring. Classes are as fun as you are.

>Is anything other than warrior tanking viable?
Yes, read the thread, someone already explained it pretty well.
>is warrior levelling still a pain in the ass?
Not as bad as vanilla. I had fun leveling with defensive talents and 2 weapons.
>Do all classes have viable dps specs?
Yes. Again, other guy explained the "viability" of some memespecs some post above.

>>164559236
dis >>164560849

File: WoWScrnShot_123014_150453.jpg (408KB, 1920x1080px) Image search: [Google]

408KB, 1920x1080px

whos excited to get yelled at in av?

Yes, druid very fun and very viable on hellground, mangle still bugged to this date come playXD

>>164573813
are you gonna play hellground gugi :DD

File: WoWScrnShot_010417_200110.jpg (345KB, 1920x1080px) Image search: [Google]

345KB, 1920x1080px

>>164574916
I think he is.

0 - free choice
1 - mage
2 - rogue
3 - warlock
4 - priest
5 - druid
6 - shaman
7 - paladin
8 - hunter
9 - warrior

which side are we rolling?

>>164578030
alliance it seems

>>164578305
k keep me posted
meer leading?

>>164578030
reroll

>>164578030

2.5 or 9 get

>>164578454
meer will lead of course unless somebody else steps up

>>164578030
rolling even though i'm set on rogue

>>164578574
would rather play with normies than let meer GM again, not worth the time.

>>164578030
rollings

>>164578607
>would rather play with normies than let meer GM again, not worth the time.
this

File: CuRYHIaXgAAVdz2[1].jpg (113KB, 1058x1200px) Image search: [Google]

113KB, 1058x1200px

>>164580501
/nosg/ is making fun of us again

>>164578607
>>164580019
Again, never play "for the guild". Pick a class you like/want and get into a normie guild if Meer and his clique takes control of the /vg/ one.

>>164581260
who cares they're redditjr

http://forums.hellground.net/topic/49102-second-poll/

Vote for more (less) changes. Don't let poles ruin the fresh start

>>164582524
>http://forums.hellground.net/topic/49102-second-poll/
We should be voting for
"Bosses hp/dmg should be increased. "
"Completly (same as above plus lower drop rate of epics from heroic, gems only from last boss, etc.) (32 votes [66.67%])"
and
"Yes (no s0, some profesion recipes removed)."
right?

>>164581594
>get into a normie guild if Meer and his clique takes control of the /vg/ one.
I don't know Polish

>>164582702
Correct.

>>164582702
>>164582858
>boss hp/damage should be increased
hahahahahahaha you're joking

>>164583107
Dude, have you ever played Hellground. T4 and T5 are mostly in 2.4 state and hence damn easy if they're the only content.

>>164583202
go play on quality servers like feenix and molten that buff their bosses damage
see how well that works out for them?

stop being a retarded fucking finn for 1 minute

>>164582702
>all the hardcore options are leading
what
>>164583107
imagine clearing t4/t5 day one and then having to farm it every day until t6 and probably clearing that in a week to finally get sunwell. they should try for prenerfed content, but even still it's on 2.4.3 talents. prenerf worked differently in some cases (like mag) and wasn't just a straight damage/health boost though.

>>164583502
they're going to just add hp/damage they aren't changing anything to prenerf or messing with mecahnics.
it is literally going to be
>you need more gear to kill X boss because he hits your MT too hard with pre raid gear
>It takes 5 more minutes to kill X boss because he has extra HP but no extra mechanics.

it's an awful idea, who gives a fuck about "hard" bosses this is WoW from 2008 it's all easy.

>>164583439
Buffing HP/damage doesn't mean you have to go overboard with it, that's the mistake most servers that do it make.

Is it the best solution? No, of course not, but they don't have the time to reimplemnt prenerf mechanics and do the balancing now. The fact is, currently the content will be too easy in the state it stands in.

>>164583743
it's wow it will always be easy.
if they have custom values to bosses the server is fucking done

>>164583628
>who gives a fuck about "hard" bosses this is WoW from 2008 it's all easy
part of the allure of raiding was progression and finally downing the difficult boss you've been trying to kill. different health/damage isn't blizzlike, but not having progression or troubles on any boss isn't either.

>>164583628
>it's an awful idea, who gives a fuck about "hard" bosses this is WoW from 2008 it's all easy.
yeah because wow from 2016 is the real deal

>>164583962
people will still have problems progressing, even in 2017.

what happens is shitters who can't even do t4 in 2017 will throw a huge fit, and pugs will never be able to down some bosses in kara even.
good players will have no problem and just laugh at retards and make them quit

it's a horrible idea.

>>164584101
if you are a raider - yes, modern wow is the best mmo pve game

>>164584142
likewise, if you make the content too easy (like blizzard moved to doing) then you get people raidlogging and quitting because there's nothing to do and raiding isn't fun. it's like if blizzard dumbed down the content, but then didn't add hardmodes.

>>164584375
only because the genre is dead and theres no competition, have there ever even been any other respectable raiding games besides everquest?

File: Tough motherfucker.jpg (50KB, 535x820px) Image search: [Google]

50KB, 535x820px

Is getting the server without prenerf easier?
Yes without a doubt.
Is it the end of the world?
No.This is still the best shot for an all rounded good tbc server currently on the market.
You shitters struggle to clear the whole content anyway so stop being so high and mighty.

>>164584418
If people don't want to play the game how blizzard designed it then there is no hope for tbc at all.

People don't complain about MC being too easy even though it' easy as fuck and they still farm the shit out of it.

>>164584710
>People don't complain about MC being too easy even though it' easy as fuck and they still farm the shit out of it.
That's mostly because MC never was difficult, and because of that, never received as heavy nerfs as TBC content. T4 in 2.4 is completely different content from 2.0.3 for many parts of it. Some people played through it back then, others have heard rumours, but a ton of people would like to play through the version deemed more challenging or hardcore.

>>164584710
blizzard designed the game with pre-nerf fights

>>164583502
>>164582702
seriously all these shitters who have done anything but kara or naxx25, are complaining about game being too easy?

>>164585095
>>164585124
HELLGROUND WILL NOT BE ABLE TO GIVE YOU PRE NERF

THEY WILL JUST ADD HP/DAMAGE

THIS DOESN'T MAKE ANYTHING ACTUALLY HARDER

THIS KILLS THE SERVER

>>164584710
blizzard had went back on their designs to make it easier. not to mention the game is running 2.4.3 talents. we also know the content. meaning the game is much easier than blizzard would have ever intended it to be. emulating prenerf mag, gruul, etc etc is the proper way to go about it, but then changing it back. basically things need to be buffed in order for it to be a similar challenge to how retail was with how things are set up. I'm sure if a private server didn't actually run the 2.4.3 patch and we could wipe our memories, it would be really stupid to increase values.

File: chink.jpg (69KB, 379x305px) Image search: [Google]

69KB, 379x305px

>>164585286

go back to nosg chink redditor

>>164585286
I know they won't give me pre-nerf you dumb imbecile...but more hp/damage will actually make the content slightly more challenging and I am up for this

>>164584710
blizzard nerfed every encounter sooner or later
1.12 gear and threat are totally different what they were originally

>>164585380
>>164585451
>finns want HG to be DoA so they can feel challenged in kara with 2.4.3 talents
laughing my butt off to be honest!

>>164585572
>shitters want raids to be a cakewalk so they can get welfare epics
keking hard to be honest! go back to retail

>>164585572
>this one guy who is a complete and obvious imbecile that resorts to blaming Finns if an argument doesn't go their way

>>164585572

only 2.4.3 talent which was a buff for pve was the regen talent for priests and druids (which will not oom anyways), medition last talent 15% > 30%

File: 1471108983890.jpg (265KB, 450x648px) Image search: [Google]

265KB, 450x648px

>>164585286
>more hp and damage dont make bosses harder
ok mister

>>164585685
>>164585693
>>164585737
>>164585810
>make my server like feenix and molten
yea a challenging T4 experience xD
hardcore karazhan xD
only the most ebbin will kill prince xDD

>>164585904
nice shitpost my dude! sure showed them!

I just want to play a TBC server to do the draenei and NElf starting areas for old time's sake, which one do I play on?

I tried one and it seemed okay but the portraits were all fucked up, stretched super side.

>>164585904

nice meme, almost as good as based retard

>>164585904
noone gives a shit about "hardcore karazhan" but SSC and TK should be challenging raids that you cannot complete with one hand on keyboard and one on your dick

>>164586067
>Nelf

Fucked up meant BElf

>>164586189
We don't care, go blog somewhere else

>>164586067
play a draenei male ret paladin

>>164585957
>>164586106
>>164586141
explain how adding HP to a boss or making him hit harder makes the fight any more challenging in a real sense.

>want t4/t5 at the same time for progression race
>lets just let the poles add custom values to the boss instead
fucking finn logic i swear

>>164586067
Excalibur, I think. Never played on it, but the starter zones should be scripted.

>>164586785
Because it makes every mistake much more penalizing. I played on L4G where they buffed HP/damage for Kara for some crazy reason for a while. No one could pug it and Nightbane and Netherspite were progression. If it were easy, then most guilds wouldn't have been 9/11 in Kara for months. That said, I really hope they don't buff Kara. Let that shit be for pugs.

>>164586594
>Correcting a typo is now blogging

k

>>164586732
Okay but what server? Every one I've tried has been buggy in some way.

>>164587050
>oh fug he 1 shot our tank
>better think of a new strategy this is really challenging :DD

>>164586785
Finns aren't even going to be "racing" for progression.

I don't think just blindly adding damage and health is a very good idea either, but if you can't see how it makes a fight more challenging, I think trying to discuss about anything with you would be pretty pointless since you obviously are in a state of not being able to accept reality.

T. actual Finn

>>164587164
That was never the case. That would be obviously raising damage too much. You'd link the death on recount and see the tank either 1) forgot to shield block for a second, causing a crushing blow or 2) the tank wasn't properly healed for a few seconds. It made healing extremely hectic though. One bad thing about L4G is it made druids tanks way too good because they could cap armor and have tons of health without much gear.

>>164586785
here is just one example...standing in fire kills you faster...people need to pay more attention to minimize said damage...healers got more work to do...more challenging

File: e48.jpg (38KB, 600x594px) Image search: [Google]

38KB, 600x594px

>>164586785

>>164586785
>lets just let the poles add custom values to the boss instead
you must realize that basically every single vanilla and tbc private server has 90% of pve content made with eyeball/custom values

the information for those patches is abysmal compared to wotlk and further expansion where people started recording and uploadig combat logs/videos, and since cata you've got dungeon journal

>>164587164
because the only damage in a boss fight is the bosses' melee damage straight to the tank...

ah fuck i wish they wouldn't bother with trying to make content harder and just focus on making sure it all works properly.

L4G also used custom values for Kara, and it went from 2.5k+a queue to ded. It was probably mostly because it had horrid lag, but hard Kara may have contributed since the entry level raid was a bit too hard for casuals. I hope HG at least doesn't buff Kara since it at least is releasing T5 content. L4G only had T4. Something to learn from.

File: santa spurdo.jpg (43KB, 800x653px) Image search: [Google]

43KB, 800x653px

>>164586785
>F-f-fucking finns

How buttblasted and in denial are you really?
This is all you got.Using fucking finns strawman at every turn without them relating to anything and ignoring actual discussion and reasoning. Way to go. Sounds like you have some personal trauma against the finns. Did Santa claus drill your fuccboi ass as a child or something?

File: zombye.png (64KB, 350x150px) Image search: [Google]

64KB, 350x150px

>>164587340
Last time I remember being a guild that was racing the finns for firsts, they got so assblasted that we were progressing as fast as them, and sometimes doing bosses before them, they quit the server. Then we quit cause we realized we were the only 2 guilds on the server.

>>164589358
there's no discussion to be had with finns about hellground and even tbc as a whole

even fucking atlantiss, a fucking cata server is 10 times less buggy than hellshit and 100x times closer to being blizzlike

File: tsek ems.jpg (10KB, 236x214px) Image search: [Google]

10KB, 236x214px

>>164590158
You mean the finns that took pretty much all realm firsts at Tod relaunch?
And after that all relevant people quitted soon enough as the server went to shit and lack of interest. Anything happened past that point has nothing to do with the "finns"
So i don't really know what you are talking about,other than complete horseshit.
Checkmate Atheists 1-0 Christians.

File: cryroom.jpg (48KB, 500x667px) Image search: [Google]

48KB, 500x667px

>>164590692
>There's no discussion to be had
You are right but for the wrong reasons. You have no discussion to be had.

Funny enough all you "experts" who talk about hellgrounds quality have never played it to any relevant extent so your opinion is invalid. GG maestro u got some nice universal truths and objectivity going here.

Maybe come back after you have some actual experience on the matter.

>>164590880
If you don't get the image, you weren't on the server (merciless-wow). Which is sensible since I don't think it was a part of wpsg, but had a few people that lurked here at the time. It was before iirc GD 1st guild starting. After we crashed that server, GD was the next step. I didn't play much on ToD 2.0, so idk about finns there. All I can say is they get rather defensive about content clearing when most others just brush it off. I guess another reason they got super assmad is that our guild had nearly all the server first titles for profs, race, class, and some raids. They thought we had a GM in our guild giving us stuff for free.

>>164591285
it is you who has no actual experience other than playing one expansion, on fucking hellshit, for 5 years, and calling it perfect, the irony is palpable

>>164591719
What in the actual fuck is merciless-wow? Doesn't have anything to do with the guild whose players tend to frequent this thread. You might as well refer to Paragon and conclude that Finnish raiders win by default.

>>164591719
Never heard of such a server. /wpsg finns have never played there. You are talking about some completely different group of people.

File: CLgnDAqWwAAxHkb.jpg (36KB, 599x518px) Image search: [Google]

36KB, 599x518px

>Finns nolife ToD for world first profession/race/class cheevos (lol) and easy EoE25 1st using people from the /wpsg/ guild and other guilds
>quit before ulduar is even out
>yea you go btfo cry about it :D

will they race for 1st kara clear on HG now?

File: present for kekboy.jpg (22KB, 400x300px) Image search: [Google]

22KB, 400x300px

>>164591918
Is that you pickles?

Holy shit. Nobody gives a shit about ur turbo autismo catasimulator.

>>164591981
>>164592140
Like I said, was ages ago, and yes I know for a fact that some finns played there from here, because in a later wpsg guild I brought up the same thing. Dude from said finn guild said I was a lying faggot cheater, and that our gluth kill was bugged. Again, it was years ago, which I'm sure isn't a large scope of finn players, but was my 1st impression of playing with them on a server.

>>164592418
this is your argument :D

>>164592456
they got turboass mad that some randoms on tod were ahead of them in uldaur and quit the server
they are pretty autistic

can you explain this hellshills?
will they fucking ban me for what i say about them in guild chat? are they nazi gms

287th for Senna the guild killer.

>>164592456
You do realise that not every single random finn is the same thing as the major group of /wpsg finns?

That's like i would start quoting and relating every single nationality where ever to the same clique. It doesn't work like that.

File: 1470951740620.jpg (187KB, 800x532px) Image search: [Google]

187KB, 800x532px

>>164592867
Binland have a population of 12 and I'll bet at least 6 don't play WoW.

File: pikeldik.jpg (29KB, 410x450px) Image search: [Google]

29KB, 410x450px

>>164592540
So it is you?
Holy shit. Think you would learn to stay away at some point.

>>164592674
>Ulduar

Like said all relevant people left there before already. Maybe learn to read. It's not the same guild at that point. No idea even who has been there then.

File: SZZqS4.jpg (159KB, 777x573px) Image search: [Google]

159KB, 777x573px

>>164593057
I dont even know who that is you finn sperg

>>164592540
nice post cuckumbers

>>164593057

nice post cuckumber

>>164592540
Nice post cuckcumbers.

Not being a cunt, but can somebody please explain to me why it's so difficult to set up a vanilla server? It kind of seems, in theory, that you could ctrl+v and it'd work, but evidently that's not the case. You have to script stuff? What does that mean? Why do you have to script the game if it's already there? Furthermore, how do they know to a certainty that everything is 100% Blizzlike if they can't copy/paste the game?

File: DIsfgv3.png (38KB, 636x718px) Image search: [Google]

38KB, 636x718px

>>164592819

>>164593584
>Why do you have to script the game if it's already there?
It isn't.

>how do they know to a certainty that everything is 100% Blizzlike if they can't copy/paste the game?
They don't know, but advertise as blizzlike anyways.

Do you believe in Santa too?

>>164593735
Get a job.

File: lmao.jpg (99KB, 400x693px) Image search: [Google]

99KB, 400x693px

tell the funnierst thing you heard from a Finn
me first: netherwing is based on the old leaked hg core XD
as if anyone would base their brand new core on a horseshit XDD

>>164593831
Jobs are for poor and retarded goyim.

Do you have any real question?

>>164593584
Where do you think most of the game data come from? This is basic multiplayer programming: the client can never be authoritative. The client simply portrays an image of the data the server sends to you (for the most part.)

Of course the client has some prediction built into it, for example it can do basic physics calculation and what not even if it isn't connected to a server. But most of the game's actual logic is implemented on the server. The server program simulates the world and sends snapshots of the simulation to the clients. Boss AI, pathing, spell logic, movement, physics, the server is what determines it all.

As for how its all implemented, its called reverse engineering. Basically you try to gather enough data so that you can build your own system that does about the same as Blizzard's system does. Hence, WoW servers are often called emulators - they attempt to emulate what a real WoW server would be doing to interact with clients.

>>164594002
Haha. I knew it.

>>164594061
Oh. I guess the client can't be authoritative because then people could change the code?

>>164594480
Exactly.

>>164593584
Well to setup a server, you need to run it on a server not under the DMCA that would forbid it. This costs money, in return for hosting something that does not generate an income. If you now charge to play on the server, you are a target of blizz lawyers which you will not win the case.

Now that you got that out of the way, scripting a server isn't all that easy. You need to know code, and networking. Since the code you'll be getting is most likely already written mangos core for you as the foundation, which is not completely out of the box ready to play on without bugs. No that there are bugs, you need to fix them, as to how they should work, you need previous game knowledge of how they should work under what patch you decide to run on (most use 1.12.1).

In order to run the server bug free, GM it, and have a potential website for people to know you exist, you need a staff. Staff costs money to run a server already costing you. This doesn't even play into people outside attacking your server, both technically (ddos/spam) and spiritually (bad reviews/shit community).

Taking all that into account, which isn't even a full scope of it, and ask yourself why people don't bother to put up with hosting this shit without making it half assed, p2w, or shutting down after a couple months.

>>164594560
Makes sense. Maybe they could set up a bitcoin account to circumvent the law? I'm sure if they were trading dollars for game time, that would be a no-no, but perhaps BTC might be considered a non-currency currency, so not punishable. Kind of like how you can buy stock with BTC to weasel out of certain taxes (if that's still a thing)

>>164595196
>they could set up a bitcoin account to circumvent the law?
Guess you believe in Santa for real.

There is a reason of why private servers works with "donations", my 12 years old friend.

>>164595363
Just a thought. That's what happens in some people's brains, they have ideas instead of knee-jerk memeing and mindless grinding on time bomb private servers. lmaoing at your life

>>164595730
Is a retarded thought. That's what happens in some people's brains, they are unable to understand how basic things work instead of having common senses and use logic. I'll say "I feel bad for your parents" but these fuckers let their retarded 12yo son post in 4chan.

>>164593584
World of Warcraft uses a server-client model. Your computer has the client that contains the graphics, the music, the terrain etc. and then there's the server that actually does everything relevant from damage calculations to mob pathfinding to placement of dynamic objects, and they talk to each other (client sends information about the movement of your character or chat messages you post to the server and server sends information like how much damage your shadow bolt just did, the position of all mobs and players and which area to load).

And all we have is the client. However, as early as WoW Alpha, some enterprising programmers began the process of figuring out how client and server talk to each other and started developing various reimplementations of the server (although only one survives to this day, MaNGOS and its numerous derivatives like Trinitycore), including all functionalities from pathfinding to having a database with the statistics of all the mobs. A lot of information about the placement of objects for example has also been imported from capturing the communications between retail server and the client or taken from retail dataminers (for example, private servers often have incorrect quest item drop rates on mobs that are often farmed by players without the quest because this skews the drop rate data).

>>164596204
>>164593584

The difficulty of course is that this has to be done from scratch. For example, virtually all servers have incorrect damage and health values for every single mob and instead just use mostly guessed values someone put to the database a decade ago which probably are in the correct order of magnitude but probably aren't correct (for world mobs WoW bestiary book appears to be accurate for what I think is 2.3 patch, but I'm not aware of any released server that has gone through the trouble of correcting them). And actually, even if you did have correct damage on the mobs, it still wouldn't be "blizzlike" because retail servers had attributes for mobs that in part determined their statistics (you can read about it from here: https://github.com/ccshiro/cc-buglist/issues/422) and not a single server has implemented such a system and figuring out the attributes likely would be completely impossible.

And this is just one example of countless differences between private servers and how retail servers actually worked. In some cases things can be "close enough" not to be noticed without research and some details might actually be truly correct (for example, I know some even slightly obscure details like the exact amount of stats players get when levelling up is correct in open source emulation, and the name and position of a mob "Thrall" should be exactly correct too) but for the most part things are just plausible and not "blizzlike". Hell, pretty much all servers are 95%+ identical to open source emulation they're forked from if you actually think about it, no matter what kind of marketing buzzwords they throw around. And this is an important thing to note. WoW emulation is not a thing because of Nostalrius or Warmane or whatever. Vast majority of the work has been done by open source developers (if you want to, you can go to Github and download MaNGOS, Trinitycore or other server software and try it out or study how it works).

File: 1423172347495.jpg (138KB, 1332x999px) Image search: [Google]

138KB, 1332x999px

>nobody will steal a physical server from actiblizz HQ and leak it on the internet

Man, RO private server scene was the shit.

cant wait to be a femNelf druid and heal people

can't wait to erp with check

le aunt poisoner

I doubt this exists now, which is part of why they are so against "legacy servers".

finns go to bed thread dies

File: suami.png (116KB, 1891x1720px) Image search: [Google]

116KB, 1891x1720px

>>164601357

>implying

can't wait to lose a trinket roll and ragequit

>>164602523
>inb4 a OOMkim or retry gets it

File: eye.png (21KB, 390x156px) Image search: [Google]

21KB, 390x156px

>>164602523

but quaqmirrans eye is bis for every caster

File: le shark's eye face.jpg (9KB, 400x272px) Image search: [Google]

9KB, 400x272px

>>164603767
Shark's eye the ultimate treasure.

burger bump

so feral spec to level my druid as while grabbing healer items along the way

>>164612673
same plan

>>164587050
>L4G
that takes me back

>>164602523
>get to lose DST and SoC all over again
Fuck hunters now and forever

can't decide if i want to do enchanting and mining then drop mining for engineering on my rogue or enchanting and skinning then drop skinning for LW.

tbc dream don't die on me

>>164621116
Thread won't last 3 weeks without a server.

>>164621793
yeah it's not like this would be here if it wans't for the Finns anyway.

Should I roll on Sunwell or is it going to be a clusterfuck of non English speakers? Also, what are the odds I can get a solid 8-12 months of delicious Ulduar content before ToC and ICC ruin everything?

>>164624943
>slavs waiting for their trinkets and ice cream citadel
you've got 3 months max kid

>>164625163
I still can't comprehend why people actually seem to enjoy ICC. It's just MC 3.0. It's boring, easy, and fucking long.

why are all of the WoTLK servers so shit

File: outlawsashit.png (3MB, 1920x1080px) Image search: [Google]

3MB, 1920x1080px

>>164592456
Gluth is very hard :DD

>>164626950
because they emulate the wotlk expansion

>>164627563
Holy shit I'm on that picture

Don't die

Morning bump

>>164638082
yes

>>164627563
I see finns in that picture

>>164642869

Get carried by finns meme is real

Is there a vanilla server where I could start now and MC isn't completely on farm status and the next raid isn't timegated a year in the future?

I don't care about exp rates being 1x (actually higher would be better because leveling is retarded), but mechanics need to work properly.

>>164643935
Elysium/Nostalrius' new server is released in two days, but you will have to consult /nosg/ for that.

>>164643935
Since MC is doable by a group of fresh 60s, it's on "farm status" by default

Greetings! I’m Juve.

In an attempt to bring a few more people to my server, I'd like to tell you a bit about it.

PrimalWoWis an ultra progressive PVE server currently simulating the vanilla Naxx patch on the 3.3.5a client. The server is at 1x rate with only vanity items available through the shop. Currently, the server is for the most part crossfactioned. This means we have a linked auction house, xfac guilds and it allows groups/raids to host both horde and alliance.

But Juve! With both WF totem and BoK, won’t this make raids complete ROFLstomps?? Fortunately for us, the server buffs content accordingly. So far they have stayed clear of buffing actual boss mechanics. Over time health pools get tuned down to a more moderate and accessible level. Currently released raids: UBRS, ZG, MC, Ony, BWL, AQ20, 8/9 AQ40 and 8/15 Naxx40.

Due to running on the 3.3.5 client, RDF, PVP finder(?) and achievements are all fully operational. Along with this: Previously disabled content such as the old pvp titles have been revisited (works on lifetime HKs now) and can now be accessed during the vanilla stage. All arena brackets are also functioning properly and arena rating now grants access to the old pvp gear.

The server has fairly good scripting. All quests I have done so far have been bug free or, in case they were bugged, could be completed through QC (quest completer). Pathing and charge work really well, except for a few cases (IE. some uphill structures when charged closeby can make you fall through the world).

I have probably missed a ton of stuff so if you have any questions, feel free to /w me ingame or comment down below <3

Juve

File: 1482262374330.jpg (67KB, 541x800px) Image search: [Google]

67KB, 541x800px

gummycraft fucking when

>>164649931
>non progressive TBC
>run by a college student who can take the server down the instant something more important comes up in his life, as before with gummy's servers
>hosted in the US
>all "non-relevant" content (aka not raids) will be shit just like on both of gummys servers before
gd1 m8

>>164650139
I'd play scriptcraft 3 in an instant mate. And 4 and 5.