/lidg/ Let It Die general

Snail room when?

First for >READ THE FAQ

For the anon who told me to farm F23 GOTO-9, he's a bitch at this point, right? Maxed out grade 5? I dont need guardshrooms for it?

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>ohio and chile

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Where's this fucking Masamune bp?

>>164326064
I just walked in the room and 3 hit him with an Iron, grade 5 Striker, and no mushrooms involved. Each run should take you about 2 minutes tops from his room back to the elevator.

>>164326201
31+ my dude

can we change TDM team to california so newfags arent forced to switch once they realize theres no ta single rank 70 player in those teams?

SASSSORIIII~~~

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>Overprepare myself for a boss
>It's suddenly a fucking pushover
Every time

>no merch store on the site yet

Fucking why, I don't care about DMs but I would gladly buy a shirt or one of those rad Uncle Death pins I keep seeing posted here.

>>164326204
Dunno why, but it wasn't quite that easy. It was trivial, but not a 3-hit. I'm using +2 Iron+ and he was dying but nowhere near that fast. What are you doing i'm not?

>>164325995
Hour and 10 minutes

>>164326129
Lets get in a fight with Michigan already, I need the boost of lithium for my 10th fighter slot.

>>164326343
I have a Death Burner Iron.

>>164326417
That'd do it. Death Burner is just leveling the iron all the way up, or is it its own piece of equipment?

>>164326343
Hes using a death burner, the 3* upgrade of the iron

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>The View from the top - 0.1% ULTRA-RARE
PART OF THE ELITE
TRU GAYMER

>>164326458
Maxing out T2 Iron. It required D.O.D. ARMS Red from Coen to upgrade to Death Burner.

>>164326535
Wire Mountains and Copper Wire Mountains are like the only resource I dont have a billion of. So infuriating.

>>164326535
actually u can get it very easily, once u get to 32 floor or 33 u get a quest to kill 10 goons iwth hockey stick for one dod red

>>164326656
Welcome to my life, except swap out Wire Mountain for Mass of Iron Bolts.

>>164326668
I completely forgot about this quest. Matter of fact I don't think I've done that yet. Time for a free Pork Chopper upgrade.

Does the secret shop ever stock weapon BPs or only armor?

>>164326835
Weapons. I'v seen him sell the crossbow BP before.

>>164326835
It can stock weapons. I remember the 11-20 shop sells the Sniper BP for 60k.

>>164326827
Farming is bad enough, but now that i'm grade 5, I'm seeing maxed level dev haters. So I cant just mindlessly farm and blast the soundtrack to this game, I gotta bring good gear and pay attention.

>this 5* road shocker coat
what the actual FUCK

>be rank 45 something
>almost everyone has defeners with rapiers, fire wands, iron and shit
>get to rank 60
>scared shitless cuz top tier decals but gotta farm for bp
>NO ONE HAS ANY DEFENDERS, FREE KC AND LITHIUM
im so confused

>>164327193
Using your character slots for expeditions is so much more effective than stopping you from stealing like 10% of my coin and SPL, especially because I can just spend it and you don't get anything.

>>164327032
Yeah I ran into the same issues when I gained access to grade 5, but after awhile you kinda just get used to it.

>>164327193
Higher rank means they have more time invested, so I would like to think many realize expeditions are infinitely better than defending their base.

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>>164327193
Kinda feels like the higher ranked you are, the less worth it is it to place defenders.
And not just sending out extra fighters on expeditions.

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Alright finally grinded the materials for the Scythe, time to level up the mastery and see what this bitch can do.

>Brazil getting beat the fuck out by Germany. Feels fucking great, senpai

knock knock what time is it

I need pants which are black at maxed level
please help

>>164327594
still 1h b4 snails right?

>>164327338
i mean there is that trophy for sucessful defenses

The snail hype is for the massive XP boosts, right?

>>164327484
apparently a sweet skateboard trick

>>164327653
iron falcon and phantom commando, possibly others

>>164327720
Yes, theyre great for boosting up a fighter if you end up havign to kill one of your own dudes

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>>164327720
its like ~4000 xp and $7000 dolleridoos

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>tfw you use 3 gambleshrooms out of desperation
>you got healed all 3 times.
>still manage to survive the mid-boss

Red hot Iron mace makes farming so much easier. Just spray those maxxed out dev haters until their armor breaks then its a cinch to finishe em.

Can you farm anything from F40 or should I never send a expeditio there?

>>164327794
4650+100 for the shroom

Can someone give me an overview on effective expiditioning? I heard that you should just send everyone to the highest floor possible, is that right? Obviously a better equipped fighter has a better chance of killing the host, but what effect does it have to send a naked fighter out on an expedition?

>>164328482
Sending a naked fighter out means that there's a chance the person you're invading will just leave it alone, giving you more chance at more stuff. Once you have access to floors 30 and up, send em there to farm guardshrooms.

>Bring F16 Boss down to 75%
>Suddenly the game changes and I get wrecked
Fuck I thought this was going to be easy. But that change in moves is fucking bullshit.

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>>164328482
>>164328586
iirc you should send your guys on 1 hour expeditions as well, it turns out to give better rewards in the long run, right?

>>164328612
>change in moves is fucking bullshit
is this your first action game? it's called a moveset
are you a chronic complainer or something?

Reminder not to discard your empy Pitching Machines, as their melee attack hits many times, similar to a buzzsaw. It's good at breaking armor and killing unarmored enemies (tubers).

>>164328742
Hours does NOTHING except give your fighter more time to hunt its target. use it only if you want to try to kill someone.

>>164328742
So yeah if you're doing the naked fighter "Don't bother me" approach always send out 1 hr expeditions.

>>164328482
>>164328742
And now there's evidence to support that the luck stat increases amount of items obtained during a expedition.

>>164328586
I don't think this is true since sending people out on 12 hour and 1 hour expeditions gives mostly the same shit.

>>164329254
It gives you the same shit, but that guy will hunt your target for longer, so if you actually want to KILL them, you send them out for longer. If you want them to leave your hunter alone, send em out nekkid.

>>164329376
That's just it though, it doesn't matter if they kill the hunter or not, you're not getting any extra coins or items from the expedition.

>>164329635
Klling the hunter gives you a litle bit more SPL

>>164329770
I mean killing the target WITH a hunter, and never mind anyway I misread

>>164329635
>>164329770

And getting killed gets you less. If they leave you alone, you get a normal amount.

so new player here, ive been grinding on early floors and ive hit a wall of progression, should i just move on to late floors or do i need to get better r&d weapons and armor

When I send fighters on expedition, do I stand to lose anything equipped if they die? The game isn't crystal clear on that.

>>164329929
Get better stuff.

>>164329929
The bosses are entirely possible with low levels.
However, do get better stuff as it'll make them easier.

>>164329985
Your stuff will break if it's not bought from the hitler guy.

Do material pickups respawn without a visit to the waiting room?

>>164330034
ahh, i havent died once yet apart from the tutorial and im at level 25, should i switch to a different fighter or do i just need to grind up my r&d equipment, i dont know all the punishments for dying yet

>>164329770
Reread what I said
>you're not getting any extra coins or items from the expedition.

>>164329845
This is not true

>>164329985
The only thing you'll lose is weapons/armor equipped to the fighter if it's from someone in the tower. If you bought the equipment from the store in the waiting room, then it won't lose durability.

Which way to unlock okusa properly? I can expedition there but I want to farm some snails for myself

>>164330249
You get less stuff if they kill you... yes, this is true.

GOD, fucking ooga booga dev haters making me waste so many kill coins.

>>164330265
Gotta go from floor 16 down after beating Jin

>>164330340
No, it's not true. Check the results yourself, there's no trend to show that dying gives you less KC, lithium, or items as opposed to a draw.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1MJdfHvt0qwdCQNwUp74zJmn3ULAC_9bWgxaEa8ihYig/edit?usp=sharing

>>164330634
Further strengthenedd by the fact that enemies in a player's game can also kill the Hunter rather than the player himself.

>>164330634
So, what is it based on? When I get four items rather than nine, it's because I was killed -earlier- in the hour time? Or does it have absolutely nothing to do with it?

>>164330415
>dev haters with two machetes
>dev haters with weapons a tier higher than anything you can have
FUCK
YOUUUUU

dude hammers are really good

>>164330915
>Dev haters with two tier 4 clever sabers while you're just casually farming wire mountains with a single weeb katana.
FUCK
YOU!

Is there any penalty for "Not shutting the game down properly"? I died, and I need to wait for my expeditions to have enough KC to salvage. I can't do anything at this scree now except recall one of my hunters.

So is it safe to just close application?

>>164330860
Based on Luck

>>164330969
>that fast as fuck r move
>that fucking devastating 3rd strike
>that durability
reliable, that's what i take while exploring.

>>164330860
The consumable/food items you get are based off which floor the expedition was originally sent to (that's important because the person can end up fighting the hater you sent on a different floor)
The amount of KC you get seems completely random
The amount of lithium you get is kinda random, but if you get the person, you get (a little) more. This is where the expedition time comes in, the longer the expedition, the higher the chance the person will have to eventually fight your hater.

>>164330634
So down from Uge? Should be easy. Do you have to kill him each time? I've hit the elevator switch in Uge but it's not connected to wanoki or shimoomeno

>>164331304
Oh yeah, and the most important factor, as >>164331106 points out, is luck increases the amount of consumables and lithium (only +1 lithium pieces) you get per expedition.

>>164331306
No, once you unlock the gate, you can reach it from the 12th floor.

>>164331501
Yeah I realized that would let me open the nokejiri side after I posted. Thanks senpai

>>164329929
>grind up the Dark Ryback armor
>find the Machete bp and grind that up as much as you can along with the Iron
>meme your way through Max's area and kick his ass
>keep farming treasure chests on floor 11 until you get blueprints for better gear that can carry you through the next set of floors
>meme your way up to the 20s and do the same thing up there except with the Longsword and Cleaver
>all the while abusing the shit out of mushrooms

That's the secret to winning the game: upgrade your shit and use mushrooms. You don't even have to upgrade that far, it's totally doable to beat the game with three star equipment depending on what kind it is.

>>164331638
whats so good about the iron, ive been using dual hammers, should i switch?

Do floors reset when you are in the tower too?

>>164331750
The Iron stays relevant the entire game if you upgrade it, and it's mace effect stops enemies in their tracks for a sec. Combine with a Glinty Magnum and you can beat anyone given time and precision.

So I have 57 golden snails saved up already, guess I'm gonna be selling most of my haul this time.

>>164331817
Individual floor layouts change every time you hit the fountain in the Waiting room and the entire map changes on a fixed rotation every day at 4:00 EST.

>>164331750
The iron has an amazing parry ability and can shred armor off enemies, so it's very necessary in later areas where you need to strip down screamers as quickly as possible. Granted, you don't need it to beat the game but it's very helpful for certain situations.

You're going to ditch the hammers after Max's area. Invest in the Machete for the next one, the Cleaver and Longsword for 21/30, and the Katana and Pork Chopper for the rest of the game. Motor Psycho is great too.

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It is time.

>>164332289
>Motor Psycho
Especially his big brother, Motor Psycho A.

Golden boy does 3 times the damage! Same thing goes for Pork's Brother, Zombie Chopper. 3X damage.

Tips for second boss?

>>164332484
Jin-Die? Try to use a sting then a crush and kill her before she teleorts up.

>>164332484
He's a souped up JIN-DIE. Use JIN-DIE shroom tactics. Don't mushroom up at the door, because you'll have to do some stuff first before you fight Jackson.

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So aside from snels and dev raids, whats the best moneymaker?

>>164332580
dev hater goretastics with a lucky star for 7-12k

>>164332580
Expeditions (for snails)

>>164332484
It's just Jin Die with an additional attack. All of the bosses are just minibosses with one more attack, so the same strategies apply.

Do I need slash resist for 20+

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its 13F Okusa o'clock

So uh, anybody know where I can find that stamp rally on floor 27?

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>Last week
>Reached 10/10 T4
>Dev raids out the ass
>Suddenly stopped getting Dev Raids
>Reach T5
>Work up to having 10/10 T5's in hopes of having the Raids return
>Still no Dev Raids

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>>164332580
>snels
What is this snail thing people keep talking about?

Someone should time how long you can be in Osuka before Jackals spawn
please

>>164333205
You seriously don't know?

When Okusa is on the map, golden snails are guaranteed to spawn every time. Good for leveling up your character and quick cash

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>>164333248
I doubt it'll be accurate but i'll try if i'm heading in the right direction.

What exactly is a "Dev" raid; how do they appear different from other raids?

>>164333329
It would be nice to know so more people can send expeditions to you at Osuka. I do the run as fast as I can because I know it's a small map and jackals will spawn quickly.

>>164333205
>>164333310
You can go there yourself to farm them

3 will always spawn on the walls in an alleyway above a fire

But the best way to farm is to send all your fighters to attack players that are already on that map

Can you get anything other than the snails in okusa? Wire mountains, perhaps?

>>164328482
I need tips like this anon. So you're telling me the longer I send them out doesn't effect the loot they come back with? Just their luck?

>>164333735
Materials sheet says Hemp and a stamp machine are also there, so there could be other cloth as well.

>>164333693
Speaking of, where is that one faggot who in the second time Okusa came into rotation kept telling everyone to screenshot his post, saying that everyone will stop going to Okusa and will just wait to send expeditions so nobody would get any snails.

I really want to laugh in his retarded fucking face.

>>164333789
See >>164331304 and >>164331501

>>164333451
they have a dev hater name and give mad dosh, like 30k of both or whatever

>>164333693
Are they still valuable if they're cooked?

>>164333451
They are AI waiting rooms

They were made incase you went to raid and no human players were on the list

What people did is get to a really high rank which didn't have a lot of players yet, so Dev waiting rooms would be on the raid list

But more people are catching up in rank so you are far less likely to get Dev raids now

>>164334181
Can't cook golden animals or their mushrooms

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GUYS GUYS!

I SAW A DEV RAID!

>>164334420
Cherish it my friend

>>164334420
Oh damn, T5 dev raids are not push overs like T4

I actually had to pay attention and try to win this time

30,000 plus 7,000 for my rank though, damn nice

>>164334341
Ah, was wondering since all mine are over the fire. Also 2 of them glitched into the wall on me

About to fight the 40F boss, what's the general strategy for his fight? Do I eat all my Guardshrooms/Stingshrooms before I start the cutscene or do I wait until after the fight begins with him? Any other shrooms I should bring along other than those two?

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>eat yogashroom
>stab self in the head

I hate 21+.
They basically force you to wear decent armor.
Go naked and you either die to 1 hit or you get hit by a combo and die anyways.
Are defenders better? Or they just die like any other class?

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That spike in views just over two videos where I use shrooms to cheese some jackals.

Amount of subs also went up from 25 to 54.

>>164335075
Strikers/Shooters are the best for progression. Either learn attack patterns better to preserve your armor as long as possible, abuse mushrooms (which is a waste), or quit now. It doesn't get easier.

>Find someone on Osuka
>Immediately send the person on a 1 hour expedition
>They drop down and I see she still has her rapier equipped

I'm so sorry to whoever I did this to

>>164326470
>TRU GAYMER
More like
>P2W KIKES

>>164335087
If you do decent enough videos i might sub.
I was asking for channels to subscribe the other day anyway.
Can you post your channel please?

>>164335281
>to preserve your armor
So i can't go naked anyways. Fuck
I was using both actually. But naked.
Fucked up my spacing one time and BAM axe guy ohko'd me. And other shit like that.
And i did try to parry. Got poisoned by iron claws eventually and died.
I won't quit or abuse shrooms though. I'll just wait for Okusa to be up, farm some snails and pay for both my characters.
And some fucking armor.

>>164335351
Is Okusa already up? Fuck, i think im late

>>164335281
but strikers and shooters have smaller bag space though, how do you deal with that? where do you store all your mushrooms for use against bosses?

I use the collector for progression so I can store as many mushrooms as I need.

What the fuck, I just heard sirens and didn't think much of it, then I saw these level 200 mother fuckers between me and the escalator I wanted to go to, so I ran back to the elevator and was gonna go the other direction for a while when a fucker literally appears from thin air in the middle of the path so I hide in the express elevator with the waifu. This was on like the 11th floor

>>164334803
now's the time for slows and cloaks

before the boss there are a few rounds of sumo, protip don't fall off

>>164335651
yeah, they're the Jackals
you took too long to clear the floor after wiping out all the enemies

>>164335583
>If you do decent enough videos i might sub.
I don't. I literally just upload random little clips that I find funny/interesting, whatever, I have no production or schedule, I don't advertise my channel because of that, most of my videos average around a minute or less and are literally nothing.

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>>164335651
they function like the ghost in spelunky
its a hint to hurry the fuck up / get the fuck out

>>164335651
Always leave one enemy alive

If you see Scratch Tubers always leave one of them

Jackals won't spawn if there are enemies still alive

>>164335826
>ghost in spelunky
yeah, but how about you use an example like the reaper in bubble bobble, or any old school game like Athena
except you can kill the Jackals

>>164335826
>they function like the ghost in spelunky
Really, you can farm ghosts in spelunky for gear?

Oh wait, you're just hipster garbage constantly spamming your halfassed bullshit reference nobody gives a fuck about.

>>164335583
21+ is when the game really starts kicking your ass, but once you get used to it you hardly die whatsoever. Trust me we've all been there.

>>164335647
I progress up to a boss through general exploration, gather whatever I feel is necessary on the way, and then either leave the floor or fight the boss. Most bosses don't need more than a few mushrooms unless you walk into it horribly unprepared. If you have the thought that you have just enough to do it then you probably don't.

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>sending people on expeditions
>see one of the targets is carrying 50,000 gold
>my hunter manages to kill him
>get 13.000 gold

Been playing since day 1 and this is the first time I get this much gold. This must work like the raid system then. If you kill them you get a % of the total amount of gold they were carrying. I will test this again tomorrow and look for targets with how amounts of gold only.

>>164335647
I should also add Collectors are decent for 1-20 general use. I didn't really start transitioning into Strikers until 21+ because the damage drop off becomes really evident against enemies and bosses. The storage bag space is hard to give up, but when I was a Collector I had a tendency to pick up things I ultimately wouldn't use just because I could.

>>164335860
I thought it was Jackals won't spawn as quickly if there's at least one enemy remaining.

>>164335992
Hm, I haven't been testing for this. Mainly because I send shitty low level collectors with no weapons.

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>>164335965
>>164335964
feel free to farm jackals with your grade 1 fighters

>>164335823
Actually, thats kinda better than the other 2 channels i know of
>"HAY GUYS, IM GONNA TEACH YOU HOW TO BEAT 16F JIN-DIE"
>Which i have farmed over and over already
I prefer watching random small clips than that "scheduled" bull

>>164335978
I know, the famous 21+ power spike.
But im just mad i cant go naked.
I'll miss my spats
I'm pretty sure that if i get my best armor and a +4 iron + i'll be able to hardly die. But fuck, I WANNA PUNCH SHIT NAKED
...red pill me: There's no way to progress further naked without having a harder time, right?
By naked i mean without any gear or shrooms to abuse.

>>164336321
just stop here
you made a mistake, get over it

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>>164336321
Oh boy, those grapes must be really sour, eh?

>>164336325
Progressing naked is just asking for a Nail Gun Dev Hater to destroy your character. Even T1 armor is better than nothing.

>>164335992
I have gotten about 10k already as well.
But i only send naked fighters.
I think it may be just a % of what they're carrying, probably not to be changed by kills.
And if it changes, it's probably an additional %

>Enter final boss
>All my equipment gone.
> Sumo wrestling fight with no weapons.
> Get pretty far, but I have to fight a COEN naked and weaponless.
>Die

Well, this game was the biggest letdown ever. Just a ridiculous quarter-eater as the last "Boss" challenge

>yes, am mad.jpg

>>164336465
even dev haters get fucked up by crossbow screamers
running naked in 21+ is a death metal sentence

>>164336325
You MUST have armor. However, you can get by on a whole worse tier of armor if you're careful.

>>164336465
>>164336719
Yeah, i thought so. Even though raiding naked still works well.
Welp, thanks then. I needed a punch in the face to stop being so stingy with my armor.
Gonna grab a drink and farm Okusa for my haterfied fighters

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>>164336660
That's odd considering I got both of my Pork Choppers and my armor back BEFORE Coen., and then proceeded to 3 hit him. Sounds like we've got us a shitter.

>>164336717
I forgot about those annoying ass crossbow screamers.

>tfw there is only one person on your list in the Snail room
>Send all 9 fighters after that one person

>>164336830
The weapons and armor I had dropped out of the ring. No chance to pick em up.

Now I have to waste time leveling a new striker and gathering the ridiculous amount of guardshrooms I brought with me, thinking I could use them as I went.. At least it's snail day.

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>farming 36F Goto
>amount of times in a row I've killed it and not gotten a metal
>10

I'm absolutely loving how difficult this game is, senpai.

>pick up gold snail
>Can't bag it
>There's another snail in a wall partially that I can't grab

Why is this so glitchy? Am I supposed to get them down some other way than throwing shit at them?

>>164336953
You can run out of the ring when the enemy dies. I did it multiple times to grab shit.

>>164336953
Why don't you farm snails to pay up for your fighter?
Or is it cheaper/faster to level a new one with the snails?

Have no idea about 40f

>>164336831
How do you keep the same list?

>>164335663
So I wait to eat my shrooms until after I get into the actual fight with him, right?

>>164337146
If they're on your revenge list, they'll stay there.

>>164337076
It seemed like I wouldn't be able to. Sigh. I asked for tips and nobody said anything about this, but I guess I should've expected some kind of bullshit

>Less salt now.

>>164337225
Don't give up, senpai!

>>164336805
Yeah the effect of armor (or rather, defense) gets more and more pronounced the higher you go. My Striker regularly kills unarmored screamers in 2-3 baseballs from a dropped pitching machine for 3500 damage each. With legs they take 2000, with chest they take 1500, with a full set they only take 600 or so.

With full dura 5*+2 armor, a hit from a normal enemy barely breaks 200 damage, and a full-on katana hit will deal 600 out of 10k health.

>>164337190
I would, unless you want to eat a shitton of guards beforehand. There are a bunch of cutscenes you'll probably want to watch since it's the first time, and I think time runs down during some of them. If you think you're going to have trouble, eat a slow then chow your mushrooms.

COME ON, FUCKSTICK

>>164337284
Give up? No. But it's frustrating... I really wanted to beat this game tonight.

>>164337225
Oh don't be mistaken you'll be bombarded if you do it DURING the fight, but the temporary pause before the next round is so you can grab your things if they fall out of the ring.

>>164337309
I hate having to use armor.
BREAKABLE armor on top of it.
But thanks, i'll do it.

How do I send my fighters out on expeditions to find good shrooms and such?

>>164337390
I know that feel. Death in this game feels devastating more so than any other game I have played. Woke up this morning with the goal of killing U10 and Coen, died at Coen over some stupid bullshit and stopped playing entirely. Tomorrow my new goal will be finding the Katana, upgrading it to 4* and just spam with guard shrooms.

(Sumo Failure anon)

Biggest loss, honestly, was the Zombie Chopper. Most powerful weapon I ever saw, and now its gone. And I cant even try to get it back until I get a maxed out grade 5. Which I first need to pay for.

>>164337568
Zombie Chopper is live nude garbage though. Loses the utility of poison, and does less damage than the much faster and longer samurai sword.

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how your grind so far /LiDg/

HOW LONG WILL THE GOLDEN SNAILS BE THERE FOR? FUCK CLOSING SHIFT

>>164337698
It was plus 2 and 1293 damage. I would've been unstoppable with the attack shrooms. I was a striker.

>>164337568
Expeditions to 31+ gives Zombie Choppers and T5 Katanas. Unfortunately Zombie Chopper isn't as good as the Pork Chopper+ since it loses poison and T5 losses attack HORRIBLY as durability goes down.

>>164337758
Until 7 PM EST tomorrow.

>>164337819
Good news is, I cleaned out some of my storage trash and I can afford to buy up a grade 5 striker once my expeditions come back. So at least that's done. Then I can hit okusa and snailhunt.

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Guys... I think I've finally burnt myself out on the game. Got to 27F and I just don't feel like continuing right now.

Good luck to you senpais on your tower climbing. I'll be back after I finish a RPG or two or something.

>>164337758
24 hours. They will be gone tomorrow at 7pm-8pm depending on your time zone.

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There is currently more porn of Uncle Death on R34 than any woman.

Keep at it, pham.

Hey, whoever runs the FAQ, might want to mention the sumo fight with the final boss. Save other senpais from my fate.

>>164337873
>>164337909

Fuck yes! Thanks anons, thought I was gonna miss out. This is my first snail day, I thought it was a short event type thing.

>>164337762
5 star weapon damage is gimped at the moment. When the weapon loses durability the damage goes down SIGNIFICANTLY more than the 4*, 3*, 2*, or 1* versions of the same weapon. In order words the 4* version will outperform the 5* version in all instances except for the first few hits.

>>164338107
That is so fucked up.

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>tfw finally get poison eater
>tfw just tossing live snails everywhere in boss rooms and areas to fight haters/hunters

haters ain't so tough when they shitting gallons of poison out every 2 seconds

>want to beat jackson
>don't want to hunt for cheeseshrooms because I've gotten exactly one so far
wat do

>>164338242
Jackson isn't so hard. Just get some stingshrooms, remember he's just Jin-Die so you gotta abuse the terrain to get close while staying out of sight.

>>164338229
Loved it when I was T4 and below. Once you hit T5 though, and have decent armor, not only do you have ~10k hit points which poison eater wouldn't heal back quickly enough to matter, but actual poison damage becomes negligible with good armor. 1 damage per tick.

>>164338242
Equip upgraded irons, eat stingshrooms, and camp in that one corner of the arena with a bunch of walls to hide behind

lure him into puke attack

watch him also teleport and get stuck in the wall

profit

>>164338242

just use one stealth shroom and upgraded iron. that's what i did. I couldn't find any invishrooms but got one from expedition and just said fuck it. Killed him before it ran out. Just make sure your iron is decent like at least t2 maybe.

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you know, I think its a better idea to go back to the waiting room and let retrieval cost either KC and DM

I'd rather not just revive on the spot, especially if I got cocky and unprepared for a boss

>>164338391

does it still make they stop a puke? the damage can add up a tiny amount if you can set up a snailzone for them to fight you in. But the real deal is the puking.

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>when you spend 10+ minutes refreshing expeditions, trying to find people in Okusa

>>164338623
Same boat. Fuck this shit.

So I've gotten Scythe Mastery up to 20, it just isn't that good, unfortunately. It's got a good versatile moveset, but does about half the damage of a 4star +1 Katana.

Hell, it's an extremely similar weapon to the Katana, just better at comboing with wide swings, even has a very similar rage move.

the +1 upgrade step takes exactly as much as the first step did and gives it 20 more attack. I think I'm going to eventually upgrade it all the way because grind autism, but unless it exponentially grows in damage it'll remain a cool, but relatively worthless weapon for the work you have to put into getting it.

Hoping someone else will upgrade the Jackal weapons and see if those ever pan out.

>>164338623

i'll wait in there for some people to get it. Keep an eye out, senpai.

>>164338623
What floor is it?

>>164338605
It only makes hunters and haters puke. Live snails are still useful. Poison damage just becomes irrelevant to your character which frees up a decal slot.

>>164337757
loading screens are cancer

>>164338847
Specifically "13F Okusa."

>>164338814
Oh and I forgot to mention, it doesn't degrade in attack like other 5star/end-tier weapons. At near zero it still retains over 60% of its max attack.

>>164338814
post webms dude

we're on ps4 so its pretty easy to extract em from u tube

I cant find silvershrooms
Please help ;;

>>164338986
That really is too bad.

>>164339041
Send people to jackson's area and 20+. You'll come across a bunch just playing normally.

>>164339060
You mean that's par for course.

>>164338825
Wouldn't it be better to go in and out to refresh the list? If you're on the same team we wouldn't see it anyway,right?

What the fuck is the point of Attackers? I literally burst into a fountain of blood if something even so much grazes me.

>>164339202
Because guard shrooms exists.

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>36F Goto finally drops a red metal
>so excited I'm jumping towards the chests nearby
>overshoot the landing

>>164339202
Sick one-shots, bro.

>>164339032
I'm goin out to eat dinner for a bit, I've got some clips saved but it's just a slight annoyance to move them from PS4 to PC so I don't often do it.

When I get back I'll record the whole moveset and post it up.

>>164339145
Heh, par

How do you guys get the Snails down? I'am farming the floor anyway for fucking sengoku.

>>164339145
all im doing right now is farming red metal goto, jin die and golden chest in chitose mei so i only see golden shrooms

>I wasted hours trying to get a T2 fighter to kill Jindie when I had access to T3 as soon as I hit the floor
Oh.

>>164339581
Throw an uncooked or gold animal at them.

I've taken to just running it with the character I want to level and shooting them.

>>164339653
Ah ok. I tried the Iron rage move. It works too but I killed 1 in the process. Maybe I just have stand really far away.

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>>164338814
>only a few Chemo-Syth Oil away from crafting then I see this

Maybe I'll just grind for the Yoyo instead then...

>>164336660
(Same anon)
> Get enough money for grade 5 striker
> Send to Kamoto to get to okusa
> Dies to a hater.

I'm just gonna... go, before I snap my ps4 in half.

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>>164340116
You're supposed to give him a little boosty boost with a few saved up golden snails before you send him off.

Also unless he's packing serious armor, you should bring along some brainshrooms or some other kind of mushroom to let you escape dickers.

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>>164340116
Nigger, just send out exp for gold snails, guy back your first one, or level a whole new one. It takes, what , 10 snails to fully level a T5
Today's the day

>>164340316
I thought a grade 5 character could handle Kamoto. Clearly mistaken.

It's only 17k to salvage, so i'll just do it tomorrow.

>>164340387
it's like 15-16 actually

>>164340387
I'm doing that. This one doesn't matter nearly as much, I was just frustrated from the whammy of shitty events that happened tonight.

>>164339750
they all have shit damage senpai

>>164337968
Seriously?
I can't find any rule34 of Uncle Death and it's pissing me off

About to take on F40. I saw that it takes about 30 DMs to beat him, from a video. Where can I farm death shekels to be able to beat him without paying?

>>164340612
Only way to "farm" them is doing quests, most of which will just fuck you over because they're "defeat all enemies on these floors but if there's a hater that kills anyone on the floor your run is ruined fuck you".

Got 9 snails in total from my first round of expeditions. Gonna get me some mushroom stew tonight.

>>164340761
So you either sell the snails or stomp em because you need the XP, right? Just making sure I know how to do this.

>>164340612
pop like 10 grilled grilled guardshrooms in your base and you should be able to beat him without a problem

Anyone know of some easily accessed guaranteed turtle spawns? Need some for the quest to get a golden turtle.

raptor protip: if youre fast enough, the minimap in kamoto and nokejiri can give you a hint as to which direction the next floor is - since it only disappears slowly over time

What's the best place to farm brainshrooms outside of expeditions?

>>164340851
it only took me 3 guardshrooms and 3 stingshrooms

why do people never mention the stingshrooms

>>164340612
what the fuck how do you die 30 times when the game throws guardshrooms at you

>>164341131
because they're the most common shroom in the entire game

>>164341131
because thats basic shit imo
if he doesnt know what shrooms bring to the boss fight itself by now he might as well throw out money for medals

So, I fucked up and put some non-premium decals on a fighter that aren't really a good fit.

If I suicide them and pay the salvage fee, will the decals still be "on" them, or will they go back into the pool (enabling me to put them on another character) ?

>>164341131
>>164341083
better question, why dont we have a shroom spreadsheet

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>>164341195
maybe people play this too much like dark souls and believe all they need is healing items

>>164340835
That's what you're supposed to do. I end up hoarding them all and having them take up over 50 spaces in my storage/collectors.

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So how the fuck are they going to balance mushrooms going forward
Considering you already have invincibility and the ability to repair your equipment, there's not much else in the way of useful effects they can make into new mushrooms, so how do they make another 10 floors challenging and still make it engaging by making you care about collecting mushrooms? The only way I see forward is to significantly bump down the spawn rate of Guardshrooms, but that still doesn't stop you from stocking them up in expeditions and steamrolling everything

>>164341303
there is no way to get non-premium decals back once theyre put on

>>164335467
>got to the top
>spent 5 dollars on storage
>p2w

>>164341394
Fuck. Dammit, figured as much.

Thanks

>>164341350
I'd rather nerf guardshrooms to be the opposite of sting shrooms

>>164341350
Enemies that can dampen or negate mushroom effects (move normally during slowmungus, take normal damage from crush and stings, do normal damage when you have guardshroom up, etc.)

Enemies that clear you of buffs

>>164335467
cant even spend money on the game because i downloaded it from another region because my account region doesnt have access to the game and still beat it :~)

>>164341394
>climbing around 21
>Toyokawa to Fugami
>wow 25 that was a jump
>Fugami to Banzei
>suddenly on 29 when I'm used to ~23

Help. I made a mistake and I'm scared.

>>164341629
Don't you dare!

>>164341629
Didn't mean to quote.

>>164341350
>Implying mushrooms need to be nerfed in a F2P Microtransaction Model.

>>164335965
Actually, you CAN use the ghost to substantially increase the amount of money you make. And it takes forever to do, so it's pretty much grinding.

Don't bother replying.

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Invaded and checked expeditions for some decal rolls

Lets do this

>raid other people
>T5 defenders are annoying as fuck, almost always come with rapiers and I have to use brainshrooms to take them out quickly

>set up a defense of T5 defenders with rapiers and irons
>some dick with a katana takes them all out without a single shroom
How?

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>>164342645
Well, one of each of the stat discounts can be deemed "useful."

Two more rolls

>>164342797
he probably had the right decals so his katana did retarded damage

so I understand the last boss takes all your items before you start it

would eating a fuckload of guardshrooms and stingshrooms before the fight work or does he remove the buffs too?

>>164338476
I never understood how some of you guys can just get past some bosses with the minimal amount of shrooms.

I come in to these fights with just a little bit more shrooms then what people say they have used, and I end up with all of them gone.

Like for example, I went in to floor 26 Jin-die's fight with 2 slow shrooms. Both of them gone and I havent even done a quarter of health yet. And yes I did eat both crushrooms and stingshrooms

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>>164342810
Low hp gunner build here I come?

>>164342982
I did u-10 with one invis shroom. I had guard shroom running but that was unnecessary.

>>164342958
it works, it's smart if you have enough guards. personally when i beat the game i needed my golden lifeshroom to durvive being knocked off a couple times

>>164342982
some weapons are better than others at killing bosses you know? 26f jin-die was actually really close for me on my first time as i recall, but i brought backup weapons and tons of shrooms so i couldn't run out

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>>164343010
Something for my collector or lucky star runs.

Had my fill of decal rolling, time to farm candles for my masamune

Been refreshing forever and nobodys @ Okusa

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>15 minutes between the first expedition and the last to okusa
pls

>63 golden snails
>still sending expeditions to Okusa

Why can't I stop

I kinda wonder what it mustve been like to watch Coen and Jin-die fuck each other.

>>164344020
Give it a few days after the JP release and we'll see.

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>>164343805
LODS OF EMONE

>>164325882
I'm up to floor 34 and have yet to beat the floor 32 boss and the floor 34 boss. Is there any way to make it to floor 35 without beating these bosses, just want to unlock the next fighter tier.

Has anyone tried to stack the 2 indomitable spirit decals to see if it can counter brainshrooms and nail guns or are brainshrooms just not affected by the decal?

>>164344256
>eat 30 guardshrooms in your waiting room
>plow through them both with invincibility
>????
>Profit!

huh I was able to get to 39f without fighting jindie?

>tfw only 100 slots for my storage
>not enough to hold all the gold snails I farm and materials for R&D

Maybe I shouldve spent more Death shekels on it. I honestly thought 100 would be enough

>>164344338
brainshrooms always make groggy, but it's probably a good strat against turtle/nail cancer, but even then It'll probably just stall the 2 second kill to maybe 5 seconds max.

Can anyone shed some light on how the combo stun-locking works?

I've been fucking around a bit with letting low-level enemies combo me, and trying to block/parry second and third hits. There doesn't seem to be much (if any) consistency as to when your guard will go up after taking a hit, or when you just stand there and eat shit.

I've found particularly noticable on enemies with the hammer and buzzsaw. Feels really random. This just jank, or am I missing something ?

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>>164344404

You won't get jackeled if you leave the bone tuber alive in okusa right?

>>164344391
I haven't actually run into any guardshrooms, been playing the game fairly isolated from forums and such and just learned about lifeshrooms for example. Is there some consistant way to get them or is it just luck on 30+ floors?

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Gold Uncle Prime loot us great
>15+ Kawabe gold chest runs
>Only 2 MILK black
>Lotsa black, blue and green of every other metal
>Get this today

>>164344978
expeditions to 30+

>>164344994
I got a bone metal

>>164345039
Thanks

>>164344509
I've been grinding end game armor and weapons for defense, but after seeing the nail gun stupidity I'm not even sure I want to continue. I wouldn't mind it so much if there was at least a definitive hard counter, but so far there doesn't seem to be a solution to the nail gun abuse. I hope it doesn't take the devs until February to fix this shit.

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>trying to send out fights on expeditions, in my speed I keep hitting "select" and swapping with them

>>164342982

it's the iron i think. I killed goto, jindie16, goto9 and jackson with the iron. Just pop invis shroom and mash the fuck out of your attack button. So long as you upgraded the iron, it does unreasonably huge damage compared to most weapons. I thought the iron was shit when i first started playing this game, but when i hit a progression wall i looked for some tips. Iron was always mentioned.

>>164344975
>people actually afraid of getting jackel'd

What the hell are you guys doing up there that it takes you so long to get golden snails? It should be a very quick run, in and out. Even faster if you never encounter the hater and tuber

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Best gun? Specifically if I want to gun down coen

THE ARMOR WORKS. IM ALIVE AND HOLDING LOADS OF MONE

>>164344975
Leave 1 thing alive and youre safe

>>164345269
But I do use the iron.
Are you guys killing them so fast because you dont use the rage attack? I just noticed that the rage attack does more damage than help as it drains durability and doesnt have a lot of dps.

>>164345292
Sometimes the snails get stuck in the wall. Also I'm asking since I could just park there for a bit and make it easier for people to expedition. So far I've been idling since I asked with no jackels

>>164345390
KAMAS is the only really good gun


maybe Sniper but thats a big Stack up buffs senpai

>f20, doing damge to screamers
>f21, not doing damage to screamers

What the fuck happened.

>>164345208
Just send on expeditions like everyone else if it bothers you that much. Most rank 70s probably don't even have a defense more than 1 anyways, expeditions just have way better returns.

I don't even think they'll fix the nailgun+turtle combo honestly, but who knows. It's undeniably broken as shit though, and I've been abusing it like hell, but I wouldn't mind a nerf to it. I just think TDM needs a revamp altogether, rewards, defense set ups and maybe even bank/splith placement. Just to shake things up a bit.

what's the purpose of a lucky star fighter? Don't they only have slightly more luck than a collector and don't really gain any stat advantages? Is the kill coin gain a lot better or something? I like the idea of the luck stat giving more money and crits, but is it noticeable?

>>164345494
p2w

How is the shooter class? I need more fighters but can't decide. I love the Striker class, but I don't think a freezer full a strikers and collectors isn't the best way to go. Especially when you want to defend your base.

Is it worth getting fist mastery to 20?

I'm at 18 now and on floor 39

>>164345390
Welding gun is the best gun in the game for general use, but the sniper rifle will definitely give you more mileage in boss battles if you have the one shot one kill decals.

>>164345395

i just mash R2. I think the rage attack just works as a smoke screen for screamers/haters with moderate damage. I think the R2 hits multiple times, so maybe that's why it does so much damage. What * rating is your iron? mine was *2 +3 when i scrapped through most of that.

>>164345587
Defenders are best for defending

If it gets stuck on a wall, why not just head to the nearest escalator, then come back? Bam, it's back to its original position so you have another chance to knock it down.

I don't see how jackals are even a problem

>>164345537
Tier 5 Lucky star gets 50%-100% more KC but are gimped as fuck compared to every other class, even if they crit all the time, use them if you are good enough to abuse shit.

>>164345587
Shooters are great midgame, and continue to be late game if you upgrade your gear up a grade every time you move past a don. They have pretty good melee too, so don't worry about not having pierce.

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>>164345494

grind that next tier of gear m8

>>164345672
So only strikers, collectors and defenders are worth it?

>>164345667
*2 +4 at the time. This was before I knew that the rage attack wasn't as helpful as just mashing on the R2 button. I always had to buy two irons because one of them was Garuanteed to break before im done killing it.

And I actively avoided using the irons before I got to the boss fight.

>>164344552
The combo-ender of most weapons have a longer recovery than the opponent if they block it. To keep them in a stunlock, attack twice then pause and then attack twice again. Works best with fists since they don't have durability.

>>164345810
well they are all worth it for some reason or another, it just depends what you want to do. Attacker is best for katana builds, skillmaster is best for people with dope premium decals, shooter is best for people who want to use guns and will sacrifice a slight nerf to melee weapons for it, lucky star is best for expeditions and farming money, etc etc.

>>164345640
I've seen the webm of it, but against coen? In the Faq it say's he's weak to pierce, but isn't the welding gun mostly elemental?

>>164345537
They can hit the crit cap easily, it's definitely noticeable.

I've beaten the whole game with LS switching to it at T3, and while I don't think it's worth playing until T5, it's definitely a good class that can hold its own in damage with the right weapons (welding gun and iron).

I use it when farming shops or chests (still use attacker for red metal boss farming for the one shot katana kill).

IMO if you're playing LS it needs to be with gold cat and treasure hunter though unless you're progressing the tower like I was, then just damage decals is fine.

If you're at t5 though I don't think there is any reason not to make one, especially if you're doing low mat farming, the gold difference is extremely noticeable for me compared to my striker or attacker.

>>164344482
Use collectors as extra storage. I use collectors for beast/shrooms so I don't have to shuffle them around for R&D

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>>164345849

yea, pack a couple irons. If you wanna be extra safe, what i usually do, especially for Jindie bosses, is pack a couple KAMAs assault rifles too. I know she's resistant to piercing attacks, but it's a safe alternative if you run out of invisibilty before they die and you don't want to risk getting 1-shot. I'm not a pro-strat Let it Die player, so maybe i'm just a coward. But that's how i've been scraping by so far.

>>164346004
Depends on the gun, it varies from 50% elemental to 70%.

Only boss I have trouble with using the welding gun is Jin Die, the rest all die in a single slowshroom. Fl 38 Jin Die is stupidly resistant to the welding gun for some fucked reason though.

If you're farming bosses though I would just use Katana. Reason I mentioned welding gun though is for it's god tier durability. It's an amazing weapon to use for going through floors since it lasts for so long while keeping its high damage.

>>164345756
>>164345947

So, I guess I'll make a shooter then. Thanks for the input anons. I was just afraid to waste time and investment on something not really worth it.

Man, I have a shitload of things to upgrade. Do I have to manually grab shit or can people I send on explorers grab materials?

>>164346021

right on. I hope i can get some of those sweet premium decals you mentioned there. Mushroom magistrate is being rather stingy with me, giving me firefighter and discount decals dozens of times.

>>164346259
MANUAL GRAB NIGGA

>Haters can open chests and take the item in there

FUCK THE WHAT? this motherfucker just pulled a arc weilder out on me.

>>164346194
>Fl 38 Jin Die is stupidly resistant to the welding gun for some fucked reason though.
because jindie is resistant to it probably

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>>164346482

>break hater's katana and beat his ass down to an inch of life
>sprints around a corner to eat a lizard that fried itself on a ground fire and grab a nail gun

>>164346290
Neither of them are premium technically.

Golden Cat is a long in reward that has come around maybe twice? since the game came out.

Treasure Hunter you can get from swapping once you beat the game, but it's a 3* premium otherwise.

Treasure Hunter is a must have if you're farming ANYTHING in the game except bosses with predetermined routes (goto), so it's a staple on lucky star since they shine in farming above the rest of the classes.

>killing a golden bird with an xp decal gives 29260xp, putting me straight to level 83
wew

>>164346365
That's shit. This grind feels really bad and I play shitty mobile games.

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>>164345468
People only have at most a 2 minute opportunity to see your name on the expedition screen. Less time if there's a lot of people online. Your name is put on the list when you change zones. If you stay in one place your name will never show up.

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>>164345210
This bothers the fuck out of me. The game will hiccup and eat my down input. Select is chosen and I have to spend the next 60 seconds getting back in.

They need to chill out with the unskippable bullshit in this game or at LEAST put a confirmation dialog for fighter selection.

WHERE THE FUCK IS THE ROSEWOOD

>>164346954
so what youre saying is i should idle on the escalator to okusa for the greater good?

>>164346728

do you only get the treasure hunter from swapping? i tend to die at some point or another and would like to keep my decals.

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ok i been busy with real life shit is there a way to listen to the soundtrack while climbing the tower now?

Also where can I get the entire OST for listening pleasures daily?

>>164347081
You're not understanding. Your name only appears once when you change floors. There is no way to AFK your name to be on the list. You would have to actively switch floors; and even then I don't know if it puts you on the list for a floor you've already been to before. There's not a lot of transparency when it comes to the multiplayer aspects of the game.

>>164347125
If youre lucky, you can get treasure hunter from the mushroom stew and have it permanent

>>164325882
Also shout outs autism-chan thanks for updating your spreadsheet and google doc'ing it senpai!

>>164347125
As far as I'm aware the only way to get golden cat is from the log in reward. Treasure Hunter isn't so bad since gold skillshrooms are common as complete fuck, so if you die it's a small price to pay.

>>164347181
Not that I know of, no.

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>>164347306
>gold skillshrooms are common as complete fuck
I have 20 of each decal you can buy with gold skillshrooms. I'm now feeding them to a low level fighter for the XP.

>>164347306

gold skillshrooms are common? i haven't seen anything beyond bronze and they have been pretty rare for me. I'm around floor 25 atm, so maybe higher up they are common?

>>164347406
They only appear floor 31+, and I've found their spawn rate is way way way above the bronze/silver shrooms.

>>164346951
I nearly gave up but I watch a stream of a guy who really loves the gameplay and he didnt mind the crawl past 20 so i stuck with it. imo the grind isnt that shit its just the game is so different past floor 20

>>164347406
When you're sending out 9 expeditions to 31+ every hour several times a day, you get WAY MORE than you could ever need.

-18% slash resist, am I going to get fucked up F21+?

>>164347181
A simple YouTube search with a playlist filter would give you a huge portion of the soundtrack

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>>164335467
>P2W KIKES
5 guardianshrooms
5 timeshrooms
4 stingshrooms
and 2 decent weapons.

the final boss didn't even move.

why is blocking so finnicky, i always end up rolling when i want to parry

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>>164347520
I don't mind the grinding.

My biggest problem with the game is the atrocious load times for what should be already in game memory. Why in the hell does it take almost a minute to load my own waiting room after a raid? I literally just came from there. It's literally using the same assets as the place I was just at.

My second biggest problem with the game is the needless, constant, lingering interruptions that take place after just about every action you take in the waiting room.

It's really hard to enjoy the game when I'm constantly reminded that I can't play the game while I'm waiting for it to catch the fuck up. Control is always taken from me. That's terrible game design in my eyes.

>bring a gold frog and a snail with me to knock down snails
>Frog I bring glitches and I can't pocket it
>Snail I brought falls through the floor

Nice game

>>164347823
block then move

>>164347842
There's like 4 easy to grab snails in Nokijiri all the time. Just grab those and use them instead of risking gold shit. Then crush one of those shit snails, eat the shroom, and collect the gold snails without fear of being set on fire. It's golden snail 101.