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Discarded: >>164255035
>play satan
>draw servant
NEP WHEN?
>Discarded
I like that.
Any new master rewards this month? Anyone here got top 1000 or even 100?
CHEW ON THIS
List of decks control blood will not be able to beat -
Anything with Seraph
Anything with Bahamut
Anything with Dimension Shift
Anything with Elanas
Hello I am late to the train and I would like some private matches please :DDDD
93015 no concedes pls
>Control blood is shit cause it loses to Haven
>not because Haven is cancer and beats every control deck except itself
What was the average vial value for a pack again?Is daily deck deal better than buying a pre-built?
>>164266979
Someone hasn't ever played control blood.
Kill Seraph, Elana, and Dshift is easy as fuck for them.
>trying to get friends to swap to shadowverse for months
>they wont stop playing rngstone
You guys are the only friends I have
>dust finally settled
OFFICIAL TIER RATING (pic related)Sorry for those who bought the Elf starter decks, you got meme'd since PTP and Tempo is barely relevant in tier 3
>>164266960
>tfw you will never have a hoedown with Fangblade
Fuck I wish Floral Fencer was a commander
Remember to play Dshift!
>>164267000
Congrats, if you can't beat the most played craft in the game you are probably not a very good deck in the slightest
There is 0 reason to play control blood when at least Unga Bats gives you a fair shot against everything. Just embrace the braindead bullshit that this game encourages
>>164267070
I'm playing control blood right now tard, do you think Haven gives a single fuck about your board clear bullshit when they just heal through it all? Fuck off retard
Reminder that DISCARD DRAGON WILL DOMINATE THIS WORLD
>>164267076
>tfw didn't fall for the prebuilt elf meme
was about to with the cheap 600 crystal deal but decided not to then pulled 3rd Ancient Elf from standard pack quest
>>164267076
Stop posting this, it's not fucking accurate.
>>164267076
>Get one of the most expensive decks
>It's not fucking viable anymore after the addon
>tfw the only advice /svg/ gives when someone asks why their deck loses to X is "Just draw the only answer your craft has every time!"
amazing
>>164267076
people actually play merlin and daria in the same deck? how do you even fit it in? also how do you even fit in Dshift into a daria deck?
does someone have the Rowen JO crystal pic?
asking for a friend
>>164267123
Jesus christ youre angry. I dont know how youre running into so much Haven, im seeing them once every 7-10 games.
>>164267241
You're right, control blood should be T4 seeing as it loses to every good deck right now except Daria
>>164267325
What is your opinion on this card?
>>164267076
shit list, dont post again
castle in the sky is a good card and i definitely did not miss lethal because i didnt look at the remaining charges on it
>>164267123
How on earth are you playing control blood?
You do realize you have the ability to outlast elana bullshit and just peck at them the entire time so if they try to do something like seraph, a mary combo kills them.
You have the tools to do just fine against haven if you don't play right into their shit.
You just seem to be extremely salty.
>>164267348
good in control.
>>164267348
It's alright
t. Hamsa
is angelic crusher still ued in disco?
>>164267347
Did Roven and Kyle fug?
>>164267347
there's no one else I'd rather lose to senpai
>>164267348
Its a necessary card for Mid Sword to survive in the current meta.
>>164267348
Its not a huge meme like I thought it would be
>>164266913
>He doesn't have plays in his hand or draws ready in case of satanic bricking
>>164267425
No, Dragoon does everything he did but better
how long until they nerf daria to she can only draw up to the amount of cards you discarded?
Am I the only one who play meme madness haven?
I'll save my daughter
name ONE (1) card stronger than this one by lore
>>164267026
Yeah, unless you have shitty luck and dont draw any legos in 10 packs.
>>164267382
>outlast
Again, how?
The second you play anything with drain you will get priested or it will get banished by some bullshit. Meanwhile they heal for a billion with all their angels, all their monastics, all their rabbit healers
If they ariax2 or some bullshit you have to respond with removal, you can't just sit there and fucking slowly peck away at it with your shitty heal spells.
I can never even dire bond safely because the second I think I'm safe to do it oh turns out they were some fucking bird storm shit deck instead and there goes this game
What the fuck am I supposed to do just sit on my ass for 6 turns and let them kill me and buff up with elanas and have all their answers saved?
>>164267348
Looks like a fucking shit card.
Am I getting memed
>eyeing Dragon prebuilt
>already have 2 Genesis and Neptunes
>Forte is old and busted now
>>Fafnir
What do?
>when your oppenent burns both of his petrifes on your elanas
That instant concede when I dropped seraph had me dying of laughter.
>>164267503
The only way to nerf daria would be that she can only draw spells and discard followers
>>164267382
>outlasting Elana
Fuck off, you're just an Elanashitter baiting people into losing against your broken deck
>>164267547
ding dong will kick his ass
>>164267547
ding dong
>>164267610
Your deck sounds pretty bad. Also you'll probably be able to figure out if they're Storm or Elana in the first few turns.
>>164267659
Die
>>164267736
Show me your control blood AA2 deck then champ
>>164267547
Is he /svg/'s King?
>>164267610
I really just want you to post what deck youre running at this point
>>164267547
what's his lore
>>164267289
Magic, i almost lost against a hybrid daria dshift.
He manage to use 3 dshift in a row on tuen 8 but he only had one flame destroyer and had to take out my 2 fellower and 1 ward unless. He was at 4 hp. I was at 2hp then he use his second daria and decked out. Funny stuff.
>>164267650
Sounds bad on paper but then you realize you'll almost never be able to keep a board in this meta and there's a ton of aggro or aggressive midrange
>>164267684
control blood can afford to stay in vengeance range vs elana and prevent seraph by shitting out overstatted followers, don't kid yourself
it's only an even match when both of you get shit draws
>>164267547
>dies to evolved Ding Dong
>>164267815
he is the MC of the anime
>>164267823
>decked out
i have legit never seen this happen
>playing aggro bats against disco dragon who's in his promos for A0
>Well of fucking Destiny first turn
>manage to get a lot of damage off on him toward end game
>end game he plays Imperial Dragoon to clear his board
>DoD it
>his hand and board are now empty because he played Well of Destiny instead of Dracomancer's Rites
>90-second disconnect
>>164267834
>overstatted follows
Such as? Blood followers are dogshit outside of effects that don't help at all against anything haven has
>>164267857
yeah and?
>>164267826
Yeah but your stuff dies too. What's the point of using this
I thought Sword lives and dies by the board
>>164267348
>>164267547
>tfw got wrecked by this combo into enhanced Albert
>new expansion
>no nerfs
>Haven as strong as ever
>Rune even more so
Why the fuck am I still playing?
>>164267238
I got it for the best alternate waifu art
>>164267610
ok anon, I agree it's not a tier 1 deck with 80% winrate if you don't think it's viable you can go back and play Haven now
>>164267247
Just like hearthstone xDdd
what do?
>first game of the year
>faggot drops seraph without triggers in hand
>has no more themis
>can't find his baldies
Lmao at his life
Happy new years, /svg/, hope you all reach masters and get good legendary pulls.
>>164267834
>overstatted followers
such as?
If anything it's Haven's followers who are overstatted as fuck, Elana is absolutely disgusting for a 3PP amulet, even worse than Levi
>>164267896
Because now you can HEAR THE DRAGON'S ROAR.
A game where I won vs a bat blood at 1 hp.
I had floral fencer in my hand, but I had to use whole souled swing T4 and healing angel T5 to survive. Floral Fencer T6.
Floral fencer, sometimes not the best play on T4
>>164267834
>>164267382
>Outlast Elanas
>Overstatted blood followers
Ok so now that we've established that this guy is a retard can someone who actually thinks control blood is good post their supposedly amazing Tier 1 decklist? Otherwise fuck off with your shitty deck archetype
>>164267892
I literally just said that you can't keep a board in this meta
You will rarely have more than three followers on board because everything outvalues you so hard
This is also why Sage and Otohime are less effective
>>164267747
Not my fault he played like shit.
>>164267896
Except Haven gets shat on now
>>164267826
>>164267892
Its meant for ambush + creed
Literally untouchable unless you are haven or rune.
>>164267076
link the source
>>164267971
I'm trying to hear it. Can't figure out Disco, but Pendant is somewhat coming along for me.
>>164266979
Anything that is aggressive
Anything with combos
Anything with Bahamut
List of decks control blood will be able to beat -
Anything not viable
Anything people don't ever use
>>164268027
It's right there on the fucking picture.
Left or right?
I'm thinking right
I want to play shadow anyone have a good decklist?
>>164268012I main Shadowcraft
>Still can't use my Nep
>>164268041
>pendant meme
>>164267936
Discard most of those cardsfrom your collection.
>>164268027
Not the exact same list, but its mostly the same
https://shadowverse.gamewith.jp/article/show/22277
also see >>164268084
>>164267492
>tfw you craft 2 angel crusher
1600 vial wasted
>>164268084
the exact link
So is Carrot MVP of the new set?
mfw mini soul devil
>>164268041
I just go with Satan dragon. The deck was alright before RoB.
Now it's fucking crazy, even without using Satan.
I don't know if its the meta change, Goblinmage, Fervor or Salamander's Breath.
>>164268142
why
>>164267890
He fucked your wife.
>>164267076
>only one shadow, the one that can't be tested
Shit list and kys
>>164268206
Post dick
>>164268246
I don't have a wife.
>>164268012
every time i play against this deck it kills itself with fatigue
Here's what I don't understand about control blood
All of its removal has literally 0 secondary effects like basically every other craft
You do damage and that's it, you don't get any free draws or create anything on the board.
So how the fuck are you ever supposed to trade favorably against people who aren't retarded enough to empty their hands when your turns are usually something like
>They play shit
>Revelation because you have no other AoE answer worth using
>End turn because it costs fucking 8
>They play more shit
>Now you are fucked unless you have another one, or Matriarch or some shit happens to just kill it
To add on they also have 0 good buff spells to make their shitty bats trade better and it's not like any of their followers are sticky at all
Seriously what the fuck are you supposed to do against people who re-up easily like Elanas or something equivalent other than "Draw every revelation you have and then kill them before the Seraph or Bahamut comes out"
Not even shitposting seriously wondering
>>164268189
Actually busted in arena
>>164266960
He seems like a bro.
>draft an extremely 3-drop heavy Shadow deck with 10 3-drops
>first 2 matches are against Swords with me going first
FUUUUUUUUCCCCCKKKKKK
Discard Dragon will rule the world!
>>164267936
>1 Imp Dragoon
Do you even discard, m8?
>>164267883
You never played against discard dragon?
>>164268120
Mid Shadow
https://shadowverse-portal.com/deck/1.5.63FiQ.63FiQ.63FiQ.5_QqY.5_QqY.5_QqY.6736Y.6736Y.6736Y.6Avi6.6Avi6.6Avi6.68_dm.68_dm.6AtGA.6AtGA.6AtGA.63Kb4.63Kb4.63Kb4.6Aysw.6Aysw.6Aysw.61PnY.61PnY.61PnY.6Avhy.6Avhy.6Avhy.63Kaw.63Kaw.63Kaw.63MII.fqAgI.fqAgI.6Ay8C.6Ay8C.6AviG.6AviG.6AviG
Aggro Shadow
https://shadowverse-portal.com/deck/1.5.63E_G.63E_G.63E_G.63FiQ.63FiQ.5_QqY.5_QqY.5_QqY.63E_6.63E_6.63E_6.6AtFs.6AtFs.6AtFs.6Avi6.6Avi6.6Ay8M.6Ay8M.6Ay8M.68zBM.68zBM.63Ezs.63Ezs.63Ezs.63E-0.63E-0.63E-0.6AtGA.6AtGA.61PnY.61PnY.6Avhy.6Avhy.6Avhy.63Kaw.63Kaw.63Kaw.63MII.fqAgI.fqAgI
>>164268293
He's a mama's boy
>>164267076
>Day 3 tier list
Let's at least wait a week guys
>>164267903
it's actually the worst
Arch Priestess Laelia
>>164268335
Legendaries cost a lot of vials, anon
>>164268360
Thanks.
>>164268092
Please help guys if you help I'll send u some luck and you'll open lots of legendaries
anyone have a control sword list?
>>164268396
meant for
>>164267547
>>164268274
Bats are more like an utility than a damage source, you use them as board control and pressure.
As for revelation, when you're on vengance it costs only 4, which means you can clear the board and then add presure to the opponent on late game, or just as a big turn 4 surprise if you're getting rushed
i actually try to never play it with the 8pp unless im really fucked
>>164267883
>>164268339
Daria decks out faster than discard dragon
>>164268394
None of those are better
>>164268394
Otohime looking a bit smug
>discard dragon in take 2
Cute
With Nep being out this long ill actually be mad if we dont get some kind of compensation
>>164268484
If you're playing revelation out of vengeance you are already fucked anon
Also it's hard for me to view bats as in any way useful when my experience with them in this expansion has been a shit ton of 3/4 and 2/3 followers that they don't do jack shit against
in DE when I played aggro bat they felt fine but now it just feels like maximum deadweight and utterly ignorable
would Albert be okay in poverty banner deck without pirates?
>>164268213
I was playing discard dragon before RoB came out.
HEAR
Just so we're clear, this shit is never going to see any play, right? 3k vials
>>164268524
The smuggest.
>>164268562
We didn't get any compensation for the ranked being down. Don't get your hopes up anon
>>164268394
Merlin looks super cute
>>164268524
I need to impregnate this sexy fish midget
Anyone have an updated Guardian Sun Haven list?
>>164268307
>>164268594
Might as well make it bannerless aggro at that point
Unless it's just one
>>164268256
Sorry it took a while, I wasn't able to get to deck screen immediately.
>>164268502
Short haired AE >>> evo AE
>>164268594
Get your damn pirates. It's used in literally every Sword archetype for good reason
>>164268608
At they very least, I respect you for sticking with it until became good
>>164268594
Albert will likely be at least 2x in every Sword deck from now on
post your fucking control blood decks
>>164268614
Im not entirely convinced that ranked was down because of a bug.
The wording on the news posts made it sound like it was down intentionally.
What is the best prebuilt deck?
>>164268424
>not pulling them from pack
I got 4 and vital 1. I will trade 3 imperal for 3 nep or daria.
Trading when?
>>164268272
>playing against amateurs
>>164268686
Thanks. Nice cock.
>>164268394
>that queen fang
muh dick
>>164268335
what do i cut then m8
Why is Fafnir even in the game now that you can play Bahamut instead?
I'm about to get the Dragon prebuilt pack but just the thought of getting Fafnir makes me want to throw up.
Do you actually need Forte in Discard Dragon? How many if you do?
>>164268502
Ancient elf is PERFECTION!
>>164268837
Thanks, feel free to slot in one more salamander's breath because i'm holding off crafting the final one.
>>164268898
You don't have a win condition against control without her, you'll deck before killing them. 2 is probably fine.
>>164268895
Because Fafnir can actually attack?
What other decks do well against Daria?
>>164268898
You need 3x Forte in every single Dragon deck ever made
>>164268771
The one you need cards for. Sword or Shadow if you're starting out probably.
>>164268790
>dat fucking reaper
>rowen closing his eyes
Like pottery
>>164268895
Sometimes you actually might not want to wipe the entirety of your side of the board.
>>164268895
Fafnir is actually good now because of Bahamut.
Bahamut gets screwed over by weenie spam (and morde).
Guess what Fafnir screws over?
>>164268898
you dont just need forte, you need 3 animated fortes.
>>164267076
>transform serpah to clay golem
>concede
feels gud. long live dirtrune!
>begin t2
>get a total of two 2pp followers
>during the run i encounter two olivias
what did i do to deserve this hell
>>164269007
>>164269017
Can i substitute with mini forte?
http://www.strawpoll.me/12002079
Is there any reason to run Vampy in control blood? She feels like total dead weight in my deck as is
>>164268890
If thats your deck, aielas only clog your hand really
You're supposed to control the board with your shitton of pings and maybe ramp a little with oracles but ramping is not your priority
>>164268898
I run 2 atm
Its turn 4 and the enemy has 3 followers. I can either evolve Floral Fencer or activate evolve my Amelia.
Is it better to use Amelia? Getting 3 bodies instead of 2 is still really nice though
>>164269198
Seabrand always has been the substitute for forte.
How far did you guys get last season? I played for a month and got this.
I don't get the hype with Amelia, why is that a good card in Sword?
A 3/2 taunt doesn't even trade 2 for 1 against Daria. It seems like a turn 4 alwida, with no storm, and a bad statline for the ward.
i want to bully forte midriff
>>164269247
She can synergies within the deck and is good for baiting opponents early on because they dont know what deck you are yet.
>>164268705
how many should I get? 3 pirates with 2 alberts? or 3/3? 2/3?
Happy new years from the east coast, you sikk kunts.
Can we please ban Haven already. They're ruining the fun.
Merry Christmas /svg/!
>>164269304
stopped at 42k or so
>>164269264
Post dick for your discard. Thanks.
>>164269247
Control Blood is a special desu. It can come off as an aggro deck easily since you can still kill people by turn 5. Vampy makes that happen.
>>164269272
Floral Fencer is worthless without evolve, Amelia is good later.
>>164269264
I think Aiela is a staple in Discard
>>164269013
>trying to play csword against daria
why don't you just slice your dick off while you're at it
>>164269304
I barely reach 12k each month
>>164269379
3 Alwidas. Then as many Alberts as you can afford
Do you guys see any obvious flaws with my deck I need to fix? Please no bully, I'm onlyCrank.
>>164269379
do you hate drawing banners?
>>164269475
What the fuck deck are you running where killing someone by turn 5 with control blood is ever happening
>>164267107
How are your match up with Daria?
>>164269560
There's a big problem with your deck actually.It's a Shadowcraft deck
>>164269560
Probably the one ofs.
>>164269519
I didn't lose, it fares better against Daria than midrange sword. Still the match ups in the 50% region depending on both players draws
>>164269643
If its a Control list running Night Horde in place of Sadistic Night then a T5 kill is possible with control blood if the opponent bricks their draws.
If you summon Odin from Sahaquiel do you get to banish+rush?
>>164269720
If I'm running Sadistic Night should I cut my Night Hordes? What should I replace them with?
>It is now the year of our Lord 2017
>Two thousand and seventeen
>NepNep aka Nep aka Nephthys has still not been released
What the FUCK. I want to meme not spend my new year stating at my collection
>>164269560
1 ofs are bad
Mord is a bad card
A third Khawy is probably better than Flies
>>164269379
>1 maid
>putting other commanders
Might as well take out maid/banner and go crazy with commanders.
>>164268591
>>164268274
It's just a bad deck. People are really passionate about it because people have wanted it to be good for ages, but it is not. Even decks like Earth Rune are more reliable.
Control Blood has no good wards, almost no good healing cards, and very few followers that can actually fight the board meaningfully. It has terrible cycle capabilities too. Dire Bond is basically an instant lose in most matchups so it mostly sees use as a combo tool.
But the problem with combos as Blood is that you'd just be better off using a different class if that's what you want to accomplish.
What Blood needs is more cards that reduce their cost when vengeance is triggered. Imagine a card that has rush and drain and becomes cheaper if you're in vengeance. I firmly believe one of Control Blood's best cards is Diabolical Drain. It's a great removal spell, tacked on heal, and all for 1 pp in ideal circumstances. This means it can even be done alongside things like Dire Bond to force vengeance.
But Blood lacks more things like Diabolical Drain and Revelation. It needs ward cards that get a reduced cost in certain situations.
Hell it could just use more healing cards and wards. I hate how almost all of them are high cost. At that point you already won against aggro if you survived, but you're fucked against control because they come at such minimal value.
Like look at Queen Vampire. Is this card trash? No, but it also isn't good. It is basically a necessary evil because Blood is so desperate for wards. But look at the wards.
>2 1/1s
It's pathetic. In the DE meta they instant died to Angelic Barrage. In this meta they instant die to all board clears and then Rune gets free draws off them too. You'd rather the Queen be a 2/2 and the bats 3/3s or something.
Alucard is a cool card, but once again you'd rather him come earlier and with reduced capabilities. Vengeance cards are balanced with other cards in mind, as though being in Vengeance is ever a good thing.
>>164269643
This one. I'm testing with 3 Marys and 2 Sadistics Nights right now.
Should I liquify Merlins?
Clarke, Arcane Scholar pretty much does everything she does but better.
>>164269379
why do you want albert in banner sword
>>164269828
>Mord is a bad card
>>164269659
Can't speak for him, but I have a Hybrid Daria deck as well. I tested it in unranked and it runs smoother than Daria by having slightly higher consistency.
Optimally, Daria can end games by 4th or 5th turn, but optimally speaking, that's very RNG-centric. Hybrid has more control - plays like DS Rune with more spells to clear board and greater game ending potential than vanilla DS with the help of Daria and the new spellboost followers.
>>164269789
Hard to tell you without a list
PUFFY
>>164268274
Why is it always
>they play minions and you have to revelation blah blah
What about your own fucking board anon. Do you not put minions on board?
Control blood have a huge advantages against aggro, tempo decks while weak against combo, control which is completely fair
This is the deck I've been using with an effective 60~70% winrate. I just don't see how it's not viable in the current meta
>>164269886
because I got them for free
New to the game, opening free packs and got this, did I do good?
>>164269101
What does it screw over tell me
>>164269886
wait its some janky budget banner/midrange hybrid wtf
>>164269450
This atm. Does good against pretty much everything but blood aggro. May put in barrages just for them.I didnt pull any Salamanders from packs yet
>>164269509
I don't
>>164268686
Hail Satan! What do you think I should replace for Salamander?
>>164269875
>no Righteous Devil and Drain
Enjoy never getting your health back.
>>164269828
>Mord is a bad card
Nigga I will fight you
>>164269828
>mord is bad
looks like someone got bullied by skeletons and doesn't have enough calcium
>>164269996
>Righteous Devil
You mean a card that you need to save an evolve point for just so he can do anything and then he hits once and gets killed next turn?
>>164267547
I SEE YOUR WEAKNESS!!!!!!
So what does Ramp dragon look like now?
>>164269854
I really cant take you seriously when you wont even post what decklist youre using.
what the fuck makes the new daria a "tempo" deck? it literally plays and has aggro cards like dance of death and demonic strike. do people only use the tempo tag because they don't want to think they're aggro or am I missing something?
>>164269875
>hungering horde
From my experience the only things you can kill with it can already trade with bats or be blocked with Veight
>>164267348
It's literally Themis for Swordcraft.
>>164270107
>it literally plays and has aggro cards like dance of death and demonic strike
It doesn't play this shit.
>>164269953
>Do you not put minions on the board?
Wow good thing no other craft has removal that is actually better than Blood because it actually has secondary effects and/or is attached to actual followers.
Blood wishes they had anything as good as Priest of Cudgel or Levi
>>164269996
This isn't something I'm thinking about playing, it's what I do play. It has great succes. Healing isn't a problem nor a priority. I would much rather just win the game if I need to run something like Devil and Drain. Also, Devil is a waste of an evol point.
>>164269984
Honestly, that's a thinker for me. First answer that comes to mind is ding dong or fire lizard, but I like them both because ding dong is great for mushu aggression and sometimes I use it with Urd. While fire lizard helps with trades and goes with sieg.
Maybe fire lizard, since ding dong can be used to bait out evo attacks that just end up getting hit by goblin fighter and sieg.
>>164270058
>>164270000
>>164269903
Mords only place is in the Neptits deck, It really has no use outside of that.
At best its a win more card, at worst it causes you to lose games because its stuck in your hand instead of a key piece of removal.
>Fight Daria decks all day
>They have the perfect hands while I brick the whole game
>>164270168
Not him, but I'm playing that version.
>>164269308
It's 6/6 for 4 mana and no EVO points.
What's not to get?
Everyone's been greeting lately.
>>164270107
It's called tempo over aggro because it shits out multiple followers on 1 turn for a huge burst. That's tempo. It'a also still aggro but tempo is a more appropriate term for it's playstyle.
I feel so proud of myself
>>164270080
Yep. You should save your evolve points for him and Wardrobe as much as you can.
>>164270110
Well you have to play with the meta which is Daria and Aggro Bats, with some Shadow and Sword in there, Hungering Horde saves games. Mass summoning is a real issue and this card is not only a 2pp 3 damage to followers, but also punishes mass summoning in general.
>Kept a 3 and 4 drop in mulligan because greed
>Get punished with no 2 drop
Happens every time but I'm an idiot who never learns
>>164269560
>no Phantom howls
>no Foul tempest
>only 2 spartoi
>only 2 lesser mummy
>ghosthound sexton too situational
>only 1 lord of the flies
>Gabriel
>2 mord 1 is enough if you really want him
MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM
I am way more tempted to use Phantom Dragon than I care to admit.
>>164269936
w-wow
>>164270207
>It has great success
B rank?
>>164269247
I've been thinking about dropping her for Unica. The whole "trick people into thinking you're aggro! XD" is completely worthless because actual aggro decks are just going to go face and win (like they would if you were actually aggro) while control is going to trade as they normally would.
Almost all bat cards suck. It think Veight is pretty fucking shitty too, but you run him because Blood is shit and has nothing better than a 3/2 ward that might spawn a fucking 1/1 all for 3 pp.
>>164270318
Saving evolve points for Devil is a fucking joke
You either have to be about to die or waste combo cards that could be used to actually win you the game to put you into lethal just to hit with him once to get you back to where you just were except now he's definitely going to die next turn and you just wasted an evolve point for some shitty one turn removal and a gain of 1-2 health overall
>>164270259
Not to mention the 5/6 EVO is really good compared to a 4/5 EVO since you can usually dodge Cudgel and Dragon Warrior's Evo effect, while taking them out too with her 5 attack. If I can activate Amelia on turn 4, I'd choose her over Floral
when will vengeance stop being a meme?
When you have t6 lethal with dshift.
>>164270168
>>164270408
Maybe instead of being a memeing faggot actually look and analyze the deck and what the meta is? Stay in D-Rank if you want though. Only you can choose to get better.
>>164270352
>he drop another birdy
Ayy
>tfw you only lose to memeshit and dragoncucks are always the ones memeing
>>164270504
>he concedes
Ayyyyyyyyy
>>164270512
H-HEAR
>>164270441
When the developers realize that being at 10HP in this game is fucking suicide and that none of the vengeance followers have effects good enough to justify ever dipping into vengeance for them
Like fucking seriously most of them are just shitty overflow copy and paste without being retroactive or just lasting the entire game after a certain point
And don't even get me started on dogshit like Beast Dominator
If you change the requirements for Vengeance to be "Take 12 damage" instead of "Be at 10HP or lower" it'd instantly become better
>>164270324
Most Darias shit out random 0 cost followers instead of one type
The only things that it can work great against are bats and faires and I kinda prefer to just trade bats with them
>carrot jp voice
I love it.
>>164270414
>Almost all bat cards suck
Night Horde is really strong
Summon Bloodkin is a fine card
Vania is amazing
Queen Vampire is great and can save lives.
And how the hell is Veight bad? He's an on-curve ward with a strong effect. He's great.
You're really bad at evaluating cards.
What should I liquefy? I'm probably going to get rid of the Havenshit regardless and Atomy since I don't like Havencraft and Atomy is worthless. I kind of want to start working on midrange Swordcraft since I got a couple of legendaries for Sword, but every decklist I see wants me to have like 9 fucking legendaries but apart from the Havenshit+Atomy, what is dustworthy?
>>164270569
Stop being a whiny child and post your shitty list that your afraid of sharing.
>>164270440
And top of that Amelia is a commander which can be super useful.
But seriously, why don't people get that if both stats on a card are higher than the mana cost, it's probably a damn good card?
>>164270429
>about to die
If you can't manage to regulate your health for Vengeance then don't bother playing Control. He's a 1-to-2 removal giving you 4 hp back and gain insane value if your opponent can't remove him next turn.
>>164270102
Why would I? And I'm talking about the deck archetype as a whole and many of its cards. I don't get what this "post deck or fuck off" shit is about you guys keep trying to force.
>control blood is consistently placed in c tier or sometimes b tier at best
>has terrible results on ladder and in competitive play
>has way too many awful matchups against popular decks to be a useful anti-meta deck
I've messed with all sorts of lists for it. It's just not good. You can argue all you want until your face turns purple, but you literally have no evidence in your favor since statistics are terrible for the deck and it sees very little play.
>buy prebuilt vampy deck
>can't win shit at beginner 3
Fuck this game
>>164270217
Why not remove Draconic to guarantee a Satan pull?
>>164270352
You would have been fucked if he had another Garuda.
30788
need help with the 2000 gold quest
>>164270512
get memed
>>164270626
Dragonflute and fairy prince
>>164270504
>>164270704
>2 PP left
hurr play another 6-drop when you have lethal on your turn
>>164270581
>3/2
>in a meta where every other 2-3 drop is going to have two attack
Yeah enjoy that shit 1-1 spawn that won't contribute shit to your board aside maybe Vampy will hit for an amazing 1 damage
>>164270680
Yeah I forgot this is a single player game and your opponent will never play around vengeance because it's a super secret ability that nobody knows about
Also there's no way any cards that just fucking kill you from 10HP exist
>>164270492
Nice buzzwords right here, offended crybaby. Are you shaking just because of an Internet conversation? Pretty sad.
>>164270692
>using prebuilts
you get the legendaries from the prebuilts and then build your own deck
aggro blood only requires a couple of substitutions to the prebuilt to be good
>got 3 Eidolon of Madness from my free packs and nothing else
So uh... did I do good?
>>164269854
>At that point you already won
Actually agree
By the time you can combo wombo and do high cost shit with blood, you either already won or are already dead
I dont think I like discard dragon. I seem to get fucked over hard by everything.
>>164270689
>seeing play in masters on streams in NA and Japan
>upper T2 on nip sites
I want to see your deck list so I can see if the problems are your list or if the problem is that youre retarded.
Control blood has significantly more good matchups than bad matchups right now, and it really sounds like you straight up have no idea how to play Control blood.
>>164270569
>none of the vengeance followers have effects good enough to justify ever dipping into vengeance for them
Righteous.
>>164270110
I actually like Hungering Horde quite a bit. At its worse it is a 2pp three damage removal, which is good. It is often needed because even dealing two damage to yourself is fatal in this meta. I've lost so many games against Rune because of that slight tipping point Blade Mage created thanks to me taking two damage too much.
When you get to trigger its secondary effect though, it feels amazing. Clears all of Otohime's servants in one go, multiple Levi or whatever other follower Rune is dumping, etc.. I just wish more cards had consistent names. It sucks for example that Sword's multiple summon followers are all unique even when they have the exact same stats.
Both Hungering Horde and Sadistic Night are nice inclusions. I just wish we had gotten something better suited for dealing with Bahamut. Bahamut might be the single biggest problem for Control Blood right now.
>>164270512
>implying dragon isn't a legitimate tier 0 class now
>>164270693
My justification for Fervor is that it's really good draw power in a deck that already runs a lot of drawing cards, so I just think that by cycling through your deck you can get the satan via another a pull or actual topdeck while getting answers on how to deal with the current field.
However, you would not be wrong to take it out.
>>164270489
Just because you can make a shitty decklist and send me a screenshot it doesn't mean people play that crap.
>Bloodfag whining is back when the meta hasn't even stabilized yet and people are calling aggro bats tier 1 already
Just like the good old days
>>164270689
>Why would I?
Not that anon but if you aren't willing to post your deck list you might as well be baiting.
Moreover, it takes about five seconds to do, so if you struggle with something as simple as posting an image of your deck list I really doubt that you can intelligently evaluate the viability of control blood in the current meta.
>>164270816
Oh i see, where i can find a cheap aggro netdeck? i have only 3500 vials.
Do people really believe that some shitty 1/1s that the bat cards spawn are in any way relevant in a deck that isn't just going to the face?
>>164270885
If he had rush you'd be right, instead you have a card that basically requires you to save an evolve point for him to even be useful
>>164270946
Nobody is talking about aggro bats you dumbfuck, the issue is retards who think control blood is actually good.
Of course bats is going to be good the meta hasn't fucking changed at all aside from Rune getting new toys and Bahamut existing
>>164270787
"Playing around Vengeance" generally means that your opponent will let you at 11/12 HP. Many 2pp Blood cards inflicts you 2 HP.
>>164270919
I think the reward outweighs the risk after thinking about it. It is a good card, but yeah I can see some people taking it out
>>164269968
Yes. Sahaquiel is looking to be one of the coolest cards in the expansion, and trying to build a neutral themed deck will be great for beginners as a way to do all the daily quests for each class.
>>164270946
It's like the lull during the last week or two before RoB came out where people were shitposting about Dragon and Shadow was just a precursor to this autistic storm.
>>164270982
>The meta hasn't fucking changed at all
Yes 3 days in and we definitely already know the new meta perfectly. 100%.
You people are ridiculous.
>>164270982
Why would you use evolve for anyone else besides Wardrobe though? He become a pseudo-ward with bane and a significant amount of defense.
>lucifer pulled with Sah actually heals before going back to hand
Madness
>>164270930
I'm the original poster of that screenshot, I literally copied it card for card when Rank 1 Master was climbing with it from 90k MP onwards.
I've also played it myself, so I know it works.
>>164271002
>Be at 11
>Dip down to 9
>Play Evolve Devil
>Attack so now you're up to 13
>They kill Devil nex turn
Congrats you just wasted an evolve point for 2 HP net gain and also had to wait until you were even in vengeance range to be able to use that evolve point
>>164271093
I dunno anon, you've never played a game against a follower with a big dick that you have to kill using evolve before? A follower that unless you're specifically in vengeance range you won't be able to do shit against with devil?
>>164270946
>yurius into veight
>if you don't have an answer you lose
>>164271039
Bloodfag whining has been going on since /mbgg/. It's the original /svg/ class to shit up threads by incessantly bitching about.
At least bloodfags have a point, though any whining now is silly because nothing's really been decided yet. Yes Tempo Rune is really good but that deck was easy to figure out, we don't know how the meta will continue from here on out. Fucking hell two cards aren't even working yet.
Calm your tits anons.
>>164270982
Reminder to ignore this autistic fuck thats in too far deep to post his decklist because he would die from the embarrassment when we see 2x Mastema and Ice Blade Warfiend.
>>164271175
>not having an answer to a fucking 3/2
Are you serious right now
>>164270930
>>164271069
>>164271117
>BTFO
>>164270680
I guess no one should bother playing Control then seeing how terrible it does in competitive play and ladder.
>play against Forest in Take 2
>he plays Titania Sanctuary
>Fairy Whisperer bounced with Nature's Guidance and played twice
>Verdant Steward
>Fairy Caster
>Master of the Canopies
>Baalt
HOW THE FUCK DID YOU DRAFT A DECK WITH EVERY FAIRY GENERATOR RIGHT WHEN YOU NEEDED IT YOU FUCKING LUCKY FAGGOT?
What happened to everyone saying control blood was tier one? Did those people actually try the deck for the first time and just realized that it's trash?
Tenacious G saving the day
>>164270963
just searching "aggro bloodcraft" will bring up some decent lists
the main thing will be removing high cost cards like temptress vampires and replacing them with lower cost cards
the deck I use runs claws and demonic strikes for good damage out of hand
you should aim to have lethal around turn 6
>>164271227
If they're going first they get the trades so you might not be able to ram your 2/2 into Veight like you want, so it's removal or bust until turn 4.
>>164271276
Didn't mean to post that image. Ah well.
>>164271308
Control Blood is tier 1/2 because it shits on Aggro Bats and Tempo Witch, but it's only in a high tier because of what else is good.
Anyone have a good control blood list for me? I want to get in on the meme.
>>164269953
>do you not put minions on the board?
>he asks as he posts a decklist with almost no powerful followers that could realistically provide even a remote threat compared to other classes
>>164271396
It also does quite well against Forest in general and Midrange Sword.
Matriarch and Sadistic Night really fuck with both of them
>>164271241
It's a fairly good deck but suffers from being too fair. The game's meta is mostly dominated by dishonest win conditions and combos and all that Control Blood has is Mary combos which generally can happen way too late.
>open game thinking I'd really like an Albert
>new years bonus
>I'll open 1 pack
Nice-u
HAPPY NEW YEAR
>>164271225
fuck off
Also there's nothing wrong with Ice Blade Warfiend, Blood has dogshit statted followers so you need at least something they need to potentially care about that late in the game
Alucard just delays the inevitable at that point in the game in the current meta
>>164271375
Oh no whatever will they do about a fucking 1/1 bat on the field
>>164271096
Are you fucking serious? I need lucifer and maybe 1 more sahaquel for my neutral deck then.
I'm looking for a good updated control sword list, can anyone help me out?
>>164271325
>Tenacious G
This is, not, the greatest card in the WO-ORLD. This is just a TRIBUTE!
You ever have an opponent mega brick and you just kind of feel bad for them?
Nude Luna Mod V1
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Copy the three .unity3d files into the folder C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Shadowverse\Shadowverse_Data\StreamingAssets\a. You might want to back up the original three .unity3d files in case the mod doesn't work. Let me know on /svg/ if the mod breaks.
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vampyfags rejoice
blood is finally tier 1
>>164266835
I just got bahamut and Bloodthirsty matriarch from my 15 free packs, Are these cards good? I'm new to the game.
>>164270581
Vania is only amazing in aggro. Also going first is already a near instant lose for Control Blood, but cards like Vania become even worse in that situation.
Veight is bad because 3/2 is a terrible statline for a ward and he has no evolve effect. He almost always dies to a single follower or to a 1 or 2pp removal spell. Summoning a 1/1 isn't useful unless you're aggro.
Summon Bloodkin has been almost universally removed from control.
Queen Vampire would be better if it wasn't a bat themed card. It having bat synergy is why the card feels so neutered. They have to hold back on it. Compare it to something like Neptune or Frontguard General and it feels a lot worse. I seldom have it save me because it is very easy for most decks to deal with it. Against pure aggro, you survived to turn six anyway so yeah of course you're probably going to win now.
Many of these cards are ran to force a bat synergy that doesn't actually work well at all.
>>164271738
Matriarch is mediocre which is good by Blood standards, Bahamut is good
>>164271668
I would never feel bad for a fucking Storm Haven faggot bricking. That's called justice.
Wow, have we always had 18 deck slots or is this new?
>>164271603
>it actually runs iceblade
im fucking dying
>>164271723
OUR HERO
>>164271723
>big tits luna
YOU FUCKING RUINED IT REEEEEE
>>164271603
I see Panty Raider in a lot of deck lists and I don't understand why.
She's objectively understatted and not worth the EVO.
>>164271762
>>164271838
What else am I going to run, shitty ass devil which I can't even use until I hit 10HP or lower?
Blood has shitty followers, there's nothing better to run
>>164267892
because it punishes your opponent for clearing your board
>>164271750
You really undervalue having a random 1/1 body on board anon. But even then just having a cheap ward to throw down is strong.
I've never seen someone have so much hate for what's obviously a good card, it's kind of amazing.
>>164271603
>there's nothing wrong with Ice Blade Warfiend
>3 Temptress
>3 Sadistic Night
>2 Dire Bond
>2 Mary
No wonder your Control Blood sucks.
Fairly new to the game with mostly the free packs they give you from each set. Which set should I focus on buying from with all of my private match gold? Thinking of buying two prebuilts as well.
>>164271723
Nipples are too bright hot pink
>>164271838
>understatted
? She has the standard 4pp evolve follower stats.
Just started Shadowverse. A little bird sang that you can get 2k rupies in private matches, is this true? How does it work?
>>164271772
>Storm Haven faggot
Stormhaven is not even a tier 1 deck.
I get the Elana hate, but Stormhaven decks are not hard to beat.
>>164271873
there's also the fact that bats trigger effects in blood, any variant.
>>164271838
I normally use it as a slight gain for when I cant vengeance myself for Devil or Drain and feel like I really need 2 health.
>>164271874
>>164271814
>It's shit XD
>Doesn't actually say what to run because they don't actually know what a good control blood deck looks like since they are just chirping parrots
>>164271926
It's literally in the OP.
>>164271413
>blood has no minion that's a threat to any classes?
Ok anon if that's what you believe
I'll start in beginner 1 now, any tips?
>>164271723
Nude Vania fucking when
>bricking literally every game
STOP
Why are so many of you guys Shadow, Blood and Dragon fags
>>164271946
>Trigger effects
Also known as, literally only Vampy who you shouldn't be running in control blood unless you're against retards who will somehow get confused as to what deck you're playing
>>164271926
>>164271957
Wait, who's the faggot that removed it? It's still recent news.
>>164271964
Netdeck before you try to create decks so you can understand them better.
help me privately commit suicide
Dhio
58144
Need a concede
44336
>>164271093
Because you have to fucking try to control the board. Have you even played this game? Every match is one of two things
>enemy is Ramp Dragon/Haven and can just take their time playing massive overstat threats while cycling with ease
>enemy is aggro is floods the board with minor threats they can immediately refill if something happens
You're constantly forced to evolve as Control Blood just for the rush effect. Blood followers are almost universally terrible when it comes to stats, so they lack the lasting presence needed to control a board.
Blood also lacks decent early game board clear. You really don't want to be at fucking 10 hp on turn four to make Revelation strong.
Every time I fucking fight a Dragon player it just infuriates me looking at all the tools the devs gave them this expansion for no reason. Almost all of them were things Blood needed, but didn't get.
Instead we get gimmicky shit like Sadistic Night. You'd much rather it have an Evolve effect that turns it into a board clear. Hell you just would much rather have fucking Salamander's Breath or whatever that card is.
Fuck Veight. You'd much rather have a 2/4 vanilla ward follower, or a ward follower that got a huge buff in HP when you're in vengeance like how Saber gets all these special effects against multiple followers.
Fucking Sword and Dragon got a bunch of shit on top of more aggro options while Blood gets the dog scraps once again.
>>164271837
It's a forced meme among pixiv artists that some retards here took as canon.
Started because her dress is poofy, then fanartists tend to take cues from each other's work. That's how a lot of the non-canon stuff from 2hu started.
>>164271852
>shitty ass devil
>Blood has shitty followers, there's nothing better to run
As expected from someone running only two Dire Bond/Mary in Control and three Temptress.
>>164271927
Storm is basically like Tempo Witch but less consistent. If you get the right draws you get the best board on turn 5. Otherwise you get struggle to gain control. I guess activated Aria on turn 3 can be dealt with now.
>>164271954
Why bother drawing cards if Blood has shitty followers? Alucard is just straight up more flexible and will more often than not save your life exactly when you need it to.
>>164271852
Run Feena.
She's amazing. Her stats are very solid and you get a free 2/2 card to put on the board. That 2/2 card draws ANOTHER 2 play point card every time you play it.
Even if you aren't using this to manipulate the draws, which you should be, the stats alone are far better than Panty Raider.
>>164271957
>>164272031
I take it's supposed to be in the OP but isn't. So how does it work? I'm still pretty new to the interface and stuff
>>164271946
Except no one runs any of that in Control except sometimes Vania, who would require you waiting until turn eight
>turn eight summon two 1/1s
Wow. Meanwhile the other decks literally have their OHKO win conditions setup by then.
If anyone needs something like Ice Block, it is Blood.
>>164272029
Queen vampire, granted that's a little bit off the curve.
But Veight and Yuri can be played in the same turn, then follow up with queen. Unless it specifically affects trading, I always take out bats over ambling.
>the opponent spends removals in killing khawy instead of trading in their best follower
Sometimes I wonder if those players can think.
>>164272031
This is literally a netdeck, i didn't change a thing. Also, i know how to play, but never played ranked.
>>164271920
Except unlike Dragon Warrior or Baldie she only does two damage which screws you in a lot of situations.
The two healing is nice in theory but holding onto your evo points to do two healing is a mistake.
You want an EVO follower that can do damage and put bodies on the board.
>>164272048
>3pp 2/4 vanilla ward follower
I hope you realize that's not only overstatted as fuck but would also make 0 sense in Blood
>>164272061
Yeah let me run 3 dire bond real quick so I can die even faster and have multiple deadweight cards in my hand late game when playing dire bond is literal suicide against any real deck
Also name some of these amazing statted blood followers then I'll wait
>>164272075
Because you're searching for your Mary combo to end the game you retard, blood is too shit to win on followers alone unless you play aggro
>>164272048
Righteous Devil or not, ramp Dragon is an awful match-up for Control Blood, mate. All we can do is try to switch to Aggro right off the bat.
>>164272138
You need to face 20 different people in private matches. It doesn't matter if you win or lose, but the game has to finish. Neither player can surrender. If either one does, it doesn't count. You should of saw the general the day this was announced. first time I've seen a 2000 post thread that's not a sticky.
>>164271953
Why not just use Vampiric Kiss?
>>164271964
>no revelation, demonic storm or even angelic barrage
>>164272062
>he actually believed the memes
Holy shit you are so deluded it's not even funny. Aggro Rune bricks off so often it's not even funny, and despite all their draw they'll run out of gas if the opponent has board clears. Storm Haven is way more consistent.
>>164271583
In other words, it's shit.
Why do you guys keep trying to defend the deck? You sugar coat it constantly when it really is just meme tier shit like Rose Queen Forest.
>suffers from being too fair
How retarded can you be?
>dishonest win conditions
>while defending the deck thats only strongpoint is Bloody Mary combos
>>164272062
They seemed to want to help make Storm more consistent instead of either being fucking explosive or bricking with no in between using Tamer and Valhallan but, while those two do indeed make the deck more consistent, it also slows the deck down a bit which can be a death sentence against Daria, Bats, and Albert.
>>164272028
because they're fun and not cancer with maaaybe the exception of aggro bats this expansion.
>>164271913
I'll change it.
>>164271997
Vampy is next on my list.
>>164272050
>Not knowing Luna has been officially depicted with big tits in Shadowverse Channel art
>>164272190
Except Righteous Devil is usually doing no more than two healing himself
>>164272190
>which screws you in a lot of situations
Meh, not really. Especially on curve. You'd rather evolve Righteous at late game though, obviously.
>>164272205
I very rarely win games off of the mary combo and usually win through whittling down the opponent while controlling the board.
Most of the time I win off Alucard/Matriarch/Temptress
>>164272176
>This is literally a netdeck
you srs m8?
>>164271964
Take out devil killer and replace it with veight.
Take out succubus and put in mini soul devil.
Take out bloody mary and put in 2 demonic storm (you get it in the story mode)
Take out midnight vamp and put in yulius.
Take out 2 night horde and put in 2 vampire fort.
>All these people who are shitting on the anti-control blood anons have spent two threads laughing at their decks
>0 time spent actually posting their own supposedly amazing T1 control blood decks
>>164272241
I did some research but I'd like a confirmation, is Match ID posted here all you need to start a private match?
>>164272205
Getting Dire Bond at turn 3 is the most important thing for Control Blood, idiot. It become a great Mary combo afterwards.
>>164272062
Plus, turn 3 Aria is a staple of Elana too but Elana brings so many other weapons to the table.
Stormhaven is clearly the vastly inferior deck.
Now Elana, I totally get the hate for that, but not Stormhaven.
>Shadow is good in Arena
what are other lies that /svg/ told you?
Is this card underrated?
>>164272413
Yes, just make a room or join a room based off the number, remember who you play against though.
>>164272298
That's referencing the joke. It started before Shadowverse Channel.
>official art on a comedy talk show that uses fan art for everything
Does ramp dragon use forte or do they just want to ramp to bahamut as fast as possible?
>>164272350
I don't see the hype in tempest, outside of Otohime the only time that much shit is going to be on the board to cleanly kill is when you're already getting absolutely shit on and will just get burned down the next turn anyway or when you're playing literal retards who flood the board with bats or some shit
>>164272376
>>164272264
Thanks.
Could I get a concede
44336
Thanks in advance.
>>164272428
Dragon is good in Arenaoddly enough, I got multiple oracles and siegs and won 5-0 off that once
>Wake up
>Magically blood is good
>>164272048
Its really a huge difference when i swap to my control royal. i have 3-5 evolve possibilities on first evolve turn and they all do something. At 5+ pp every card feels absolutely disgusting unless I have to use it as a catchup tool, and even then I usually end up out lasting my opponent, or being able to refill board through any clears.
Not to mention if you get the 7,8,9 combo game feels easy as fuck.
>>164272457
Thanks for the help, if anyone got time to help me kms that'd be swell
23270, 0/20, will commit sudoku with Bloodcraft
>>164272176
>aggro vampy deck
>This is literally netdeck
>has control vampire cards
What are you doing?!
>>164272492
Every deck uses Forte
>>164272536
Did you pick left?
>>164272428
>plethora of 2PP with good stats so you are harder to brick
>pic-related
>bad
I got 7 5-0s with Shadow now. Git gud.
>>164272434
Arena card because May in constructed.
>>164270881
Dirtrune also saw play in Masters in DE and that doesn't mean that it was a good deck.
>WAS 1 (ONE) GAME AWAY FROM SLEEVES
FUCK
>>164272350
Meant to say Matriarch >>164272506
Help me commit suicide
Dhio
58144
please make fun of my shitter deck
advise is also appreciated
convince me to not spend 2000 crystals on 3 new fortes
>>164272428
It is though
>>164272321
2/2 enemies are the most common enemies in the game. Turn 4 and many turn 5 EVO followers have 5 hp.
Don't you see how often Panty Raider is going to get played into a board with a 3 HP enemy?
They really just need to buff her damage to 3. She would be just as good as baldie/princess mage and better than dragon warrior if they did that.
>>164272460
Oh. Well, if anyone wants to draw a flat version of Luna, then I will be happy to implement it.
>>164272271
Because you not only need Mary but you also need something good to combo her with and it still almost never is an OTK like shit like PtP and D-Shift. Control Blood is not a combo deck, you shouldn't rely on Mary only to win.
>>164272580
It was another anon's pick, but it was so shitty I had to save it.
But dragon suffers from too many top-heavy followers and not enough ramp.
>>164272585
>good stats
>not bricking doesn't matter when all you have are shitty cheap minions when they're playing fatties
>Haven is literally an instant loss
have t2 rankings changed after rob?
>>164272624
>only 2 Cerb
>half assing the lich sacrifice meme
>no necroassassins
>>164272428
Mordecai kicks ass in Arena, it's almost unfair it someone drafts him. Moreso if they get more than one.
>>164272506
Matriarch only ends up being my finisher against Sword/Forest. For everything else its just an average card that can help with clearing.
You just cant remove it because against those 2 its pretty much an auto win button.
>>164272460
>she looks young so she must be flat chested
>what do you mean people can have different proportions than my japanese hentais
Save crystals for inevitable summer bikini alt art forte
>>164272680
Sword is still the undisputed king of Arena, Dragon is better now, everything else is still shit including Shadow
>>164272695
>Mord
>good
Literally 8 PP do nothing for a 5/5
>>164272679
>le hag meme in a draft format
How to spot a blaming shitter.
I wish that one Blood 5pp golden would get reworked. Doing two damage to a random follower is something you'd expect to just be a normal effect. Tying it to Vengeance makes it feel really underpowered. Doing two damage to the leader is cool, but unneeded. I'd rather have that effect dropped and let her do a random three damage to a follower, or have it so that she still does random 2 damage, but has a tacked on evolve effect of doing three damage to a follower once.
Having a solid evolve card/beefy follower would help Blood a lot. I feel like when they designed Bloody Mary and Righteous Devil, they just assumed that was enough for Control Blood in terms of midrange followers, despite both of them being highly restrictive cards that can rarely be played on curve effectively.
The big thing that sets Control Blood away from other control decks is that giant tempo swing in the early mid game. Not having Dragon Warrior or Cudgel or two free 1/1s into Tia is just really bad for Blood. Instead, the only big thing they can do midgame is destroy both sides of the board and establish no tempo in the process.
>>164272647
The problem is that since blood has nothing but shitty undercosted followers or good statted followers who have shitty vengeance requirements or come out too late to be relevant Mary is all they can rely on
If shit like Mastema or Beast Dominator wasn't trash by virtue of their effects yeah Blood would have good followers
>>164272692
I don't have another cerb.
Should i go three unleashers?
>>164272492
3 Forte is standard. Forte-Urd is still one of the highest damaging combos in the game.
>>164272434
It's actually not a bad card at all by itself.
It just doesn't fit into any forest decks and never will unless something changes.
>>164272746
>draft anything with banish
>draft le carrot man of infinite value
>draft beastcall
Tell me how Shadow beats that
>RoB is out
>Feel trying new shit even if it gimp even more harder my low A climb
>Daria ruins everything
>My old decks are complete busted by it
>AggroBlood is unreliable
>StormHaven is gimped because i have to run lots more of removal and slow it down, doesn't feel like Storm anymore but a gimped Seraph
>Feel like crafting Seraphs
RoB was a mistake
Dust have to settle fast because i am really about to commit on DE wincon
Boy I hope I can make my memes come true with Phoenix Baha at some point.
Is he worth using?
>>164272745
If you have board control, the game's over when Mord drops.
>new player
>make aggro blood deck and lose first 3 games against other beginners
>make seraph deck and win next 6 games
I require a thinking man's deck, obviously
>>164272825
Kill yourself
got'em
put opponent at 13 on turn 9, dropped phoenix roost
he dumps his entire hand on his turn
I bahamut on turn 10
>>164272636
>Don't you see how often Panty Raider is going to get played into a board with a 3 HP enemy?
Then use Hungering Horde on it instead and keep your evolve point. This is Control, you should be able to keep some evo point until late game.
>Dream Rabbit PtP Haven deck
I know its a meme deck, but damn any kind of Haven Control is infuriating. At least our guy, Albert put an end to him
>>164272624
>not enough Cerberus
You know what to do.
>>164272814
You're right. I totally forgot carrot is in hagcraft.
>>164272747
the 5pp follower you're talking about just requires you to be a lower health than your opponent. (Which honestly would probably be a big boost to blood if vengeance was set up like that)
>>164272762
If you're making liches.dek, go all in on that plan. 3x of both Lich makers, Lurching Corpses, Necroassasin, the whole deal.
>>164272848
If you have board control on turn 8 you win regardless
Mordecai is win more and not even a good one
>>164272624
Change your playful necros for necroassassins, remove ethereal form and stick in 2 of that 7pp follower that burns for 4 whose name escapes me atm. If you want might want to change the spatoi for lynching corpses
Would anyone mind posting a standard Control Blood deck with the new cards? Pulled some matriarchs and want to try.
>>164272840
Maybe in ramp. His animated version looks pretty cool the very least.
>>164272624
Tech in a Bahamut for that missing Cereberus. Nobody will see that shit coming.
>>164272376
>Take out midnight vamp and put in yulius.
I can't find this Yulius anywhere
>>164272747
Medusa needs rush, right now she's unplayable
Furiae is also dogshit
There are too many Blood followers that just have shit stats or effects even when they're gold or legendary fucking Siegfried and Cudgel are better than 95% of blood cards
Tips for a beginner? Im not new to CCGs (MTG, HS, Gwent and now SV)
I opened all my free packs but not sure on the best way to get started now. Should I just play all of the solo stuff first? I want to focus on Runecraft
Would a neutral 2PP 2/3 be in every deck in the game?
>>164272901
I totally forgot that Haven completely negates Shadow's usefulness
>dude just outplay a 6/5 on turn 3 into le baldy man of free 3-for-1s ecks dee
It doesn't help that Playful Necromancer is fucking garbage
>>164272901
CUTE TO BOOT!
>>164272376
Vampiric Fort is 800 for craft, is it really needed?
>>164272989
Do all the single player stuff and see what class you like. If you play Rune then Dimension shift or Daria are the best decks right now.
>>164273013
>every hag deck in T2 is a constructed tier with baldy, aria and hallowed dogma
Damn, son. Why don't you, like, play the fucking class if that was the case?
>>164272989
you should show us the leggos and golds you got to make sure they're not shit and got screwedreroll is not a meme
>>164272569
Shameless self-bump
>>164272624
Feena is straight up a better EVO card than Playful Necro at this point.
>>164272989
Do the story and get used to shit, play unranked and test out stuff
Meme decks are only good if you have all the cards in them
>>164273074
>>164272865
t. Dariafaggot
You are ruining everything
Is Eyfa good or is 6 fortes too many?
Why is it that so many Bloodcraft cards have shitty vengeance effects? Shouldn't the effects be good instead of such minor shit?
>>164272747
Dunno, Wardrobe is a Cudgel with healing most of the time. Expect when going against Shadow, of course.
>>164272980
>complaining about cards being weaker than Siegfried meme
He is THE most effective card, he is auto-include in dragon, and he would be included in every build ever if he existed.
>>164273097
Why would I play something I hate?
>people never draft good cards in Arena?
Then explain my last Arena game where exactly that happened
Good thing that Shadow's only good storm is a fucking meme combo
>implying Andras is good
>>164272980
>Medusa needs rush, right now she's unplayable
>Literally most ubiquitous waifu in RoB/Shadowverse
>Garbage stats/effects make her completely unplayable.
WHY DO YOU DO THIS CYGAMES?
>>164272825
elanaseraph is going to be a tier 1 deck.
midrange/control blood will raise in popularity until it's tier 1 due to having good/okay matchups vs everything except dshift (which is dead) and haven, and then drop to tier 2 because it still has no good answers to elanaseraph.
Storm will be stuck in tier 2.
>>164272989
Do main story, beat the ai on elite, do dailies, do the 20 private matches with anons from here for free gold. Runecraft has some really good cards in the new expansion but don't waste all gold on it
>>164273132
different purposes
necro pushes 7 damage and has ghost sac synergy
feena gets you more stats on board
>>164273013
>It doesn't help that Playful Necromancer is fucking garbage
Play Feena instead. Feena is busted OP.
>>164273114
Well I guess that's another train in life which left me behind. Thanks anyway.
Are these "good friends" worth the 8 mana?
>>164273081
It's a strong combo if you play it on turn 4 with a vampy evolve. It's also f r e e value off of bats
The dream with 2 fortresses and a vampy evolve or three fortresses with a single bat are fucking hilarious and will ruin your opponent's face,
>>164273202
>Cudgel with healing
Cudgel can kill shit late game
>>164273218
Let me put it this way then - Blood is the craft with the highest amount of dead weight legendaries and golds which are meant to be fucking power cards.
Medusa, Furiae, Beast Dominator, Azazel, Soul Dealer, Ice Blade, Mastema, Erinyes (Was useful in vanilla), Commander Laura
All of these cards are literally unusable. They're literally just shit other classes get for free in most cases or don't do anything useful to begin with because they
>Have shitty stats
>Have shitty effects
>Need vengance to be good, and vengeance is shit
>Some combination of the above 3
>>164273231
>5 damage storm with a sturdy body is bad in a draft format
I bet you think Soul Glutton is shit because she's a 2/5 for 5PP.
So are both of Albert's effects only with the enhance? Not storm.
>>164272825
Aggro Vampire seems fine to me for climbing. maybe it's not as consistent as Tempo Witch right now but it's faster at least.
>>164273338
What's the lore behind these best friends?
>>164273148
>that haircut
>that booty
>those 7/8 stats plus a card draw
>2017
>Still being restricted by anythingcraft.
>>164273385
>9PP
Check this webm out for Seraph+Eidolon hilarity.
>>164273338
They're dust m8
>>164272974
He is a 2 drop from the new bahamut expansion. 1/3 body
>>164273260
>Storm will be stuck in tier 2.
And people will still meme that Storm is tier 1 to trick newbies like they tricked me.
>>164273338
hearing rin's voice is worth it
>>164273395
>maybe it's not as consistent
Thats the freaking problem
I need a consistent braindead deck
Not some shit requiring luck
>>164273443
Right, he's as slow as Olivia. Damn, how could I be that forgetful?
>>164273081
At beginner rank? No. You dont have to craft it now, but its in the DE packs so maybe slowly put some gold into that while ranking up and pray you get it.
>>164273260
What does answer Elana?
>Elana is totally balanced we won't show you our stats but trust us a 3PP super-banner is a-ok
>>164272895
I want Erika to look down at my penis like that
>>164273405
They went to school together then Anne left on adventures while dragon bitch had to guard the school.
>>164273328
From my perspective more stats is always better but my deck is probably a lot different than yours.
Are you using Playful with Sexton for extra shadows or something?
>>164273528
Aggro is more consistent than it used to be right now it seems. Every deck requires some luck in the end.
>>164273338
If they would just give them +2/+2 on EVO they would be amazing.
But it's amazing how that 1 point less damage makes them complete shit.
Thanks Star
68208, 1/20
>>164273563
Olivia's effect remains even after she leaves the field and it's incredibly powerful, basically an instant win unless they're already about to lose which is a real possiblity on turn 9.
Turn 9 is still too slow sometimes even for Olivia, and if your opponent survives and removes Andras next turn then that's that..
Need a private match win
39280
Concede or let me pummel you if you need the achievement.
ok fuckers let's see if this works then
>>164273597
Wait is Anne the girl on the Divine Armor art?
Do they ever reunite?
>>164273405
Grea was the only dragon person who left her world to enter a school of humans. Everyone was scared of her except Anne and so naturally they became "best friends".
>>164273132
Playful would be used more if her stats were swapped, her biggest problem is she can't trade well with other 4 drops.
>>164273669
Yes, your opponent can coincidentally deal with a 5/9 bane cleanly without much loss on their board after getting slapped 5 damage to the face.
>>164273464
That's one of those mistakes you only ever make once.
Every Elana player has done this once but few will admit it.
need my rupies
Dhio
17456
>>164273571
>What does answer Elana?
Another elana
I got a Seraph and another Imperial Dragoon today.
Good shit
Also this deck I'm using right now is doing pretty good in A3.
Considering using Gourmet Emperor instead of rabbit though.
I would use more pacts but I only have one.
https://shadowverse-portal.com/deckbuilder/create/5?hash=1.5.63E_G.63E_G.63E_G.63FiQ.63FiQ.63FiQ.63Ezi.63Ezi.63Ezi.6AtFs.6AtFs.6AtFs.6Avi6.6Avi6.6Avi6.5_RZQ.5_RZQ.63E-0.63E-0.63E-0.6AtGA.6AtGA.6AtGA.6Aysw.61PnY.61PnY.5_TGy.6Avhy.6Avhy.6Avhy.63MII.63MII.63MII.63KbE.63KbE.63KbE.67ARI.6AviG.6AviG.63Jsg
remove havencraft
is there really no way to make Medusa work?
>>164273615
not the guy that posted the deck but
I run playfuls in aggro for the dmg
midrange there's not really slots for either
I don't feel like there's enough haven on ladder to justify running sexton
>He fell for the Daria meme
>>164273868
Executioner's Axe :^)
>>164273528
The most consistent brain dead deck was and always will be banner sword because of the absolutely disgusting curves it gets.
If you want to turn your brain off and just click the cards with the biggest numbers, play Banner Sword.
Mid sword is even more consistent but disgusting expensive now that two Alberts are an absolute MUST.
Any changes to Face Dragon this patch? I'm assuming that mini-dork should go somewhere, right?
FROSTMOURNE HUNGERS
>>164273405
Nanoha and Fate was the only time I was into /u/, but only during the first season and As. Mostly because I liked both of them.
is wolf bolt T1?
Seven of my last ten games have been against runecraft.
>>164273893
Any new updated Banner lists?
>>164273868
too slow
there's not really any decks she fits in
Alright, back to the quick suicide blood
10/20
97412
>>164273927I enjoyed Nanoha but the first 5 episodes of S1 are nearly unwatchable
>>164273571
>What does answer Elana?
I'm an Elana main so I can confidently say that dshift destroys me almost every single time.
And here we are back at the shitty Dshift meta yet again.
>>164273902
if you need mini fortes you already lost.
>>164273986
Yeah, it starts off very generic mahou shoujo, but that's a point to build off I guess.
>>164273687
Thanks, suicide guy!
Sorry my hand was slow, got my 9 drop 3 turns in a row.
>>164273893
I run 3 alberts in banner am I a bad person?
>>164273776
Yup. And this is a huge problem when trying to get enough value to build a board.
I'm having a poor time with midrange shadow, anyone got general match up advice or lists? Won 9 in a row as aggro before switching over after a loss, but I'm something like 2-6 on midrange.
>Daria meme or Discard Dragons meme
Which one is the bigger meme and which one should i make
>>164273874
>I run playfuls in aggro for the dmg
So why not run Feena instead then?
Has anyone tried a pure roach deck for forest? Since you got goblin mages to pull it out multiple along with fortune hunter feena. I'm looking at a list and apparently someone has done 20 on damage on turn 7 with it.
Here is this list
https://shadowverse-portal.com/deck/1.1.5zWm2.5zWm2.5zWm2.5zvAY.5zvAY.5zvAY.61jJY.61jJY.61jJY.61k2Q.61k2Q.61k2Q.61k32.61k32.61k32.61oCC.61oCC.61oCC.65YC2.65YC2.68zBM.68zBM.68zBM.61qeS.61qeS.61qeS.61lmu.61lmu.61lmu.68_dS.68_dS.68_dS.659nE.659nE.69RCw.69RCw.61O4A.61O4A.5zvvQ.5zvvQ
why is this allowed?
>>164273963
I don't have one sorry. If I can find one I'll post it.
Obviously gamepress has one but...you may not want that option.
>>164274091
Daria is cancer and will help you climb ranked really fast
Discard is fun when it works and annoying when it bricks/you get aggro'd before you can do anything
Even if Tsubaki can't instakill anything, Cyclone Blade makes her amazing.
TSUBAKI BLADO
>>164272624
Shadow Reaper
>>164274030
I feel like Yuuki Yuuna did the whole SoL aspect much better than Nanoha did. It's also gay as fuck.
I was actually surprised at how light on subtext S1 of Nanoha was until the last five or so moments, which was some of the gayest shit I've ever watched
7/20 I need rupies onegai
Dhio
17456
>>164273902
Yeah Mini-Dork should just replace most of your dorks.
You only need 1 or 2 dorks at most now.
If you're running face dragon though, you can run 3 of each.
>>164274245
post dick
I'll show you mine
Offscreen is obviously 3dork
>>164271603
>2 bonds
>2 mary
>no vania + bats
>ice blade
>that much card draw
>basically nothing on 5
I have no idea how you plan on killing your opponent
You have no reliable way to close the game fast besides temptress vampire 3 times in a row because the other guy somehow ran out of steam
>>164274052
A lot of people run Albert in banner.
Banner and Mid Sword are the two most easily hybridized decks in the game.
You can practically mash them together at will as long as you don't fuck up the curve.
>>164274221
Not him, but I will need some replay to show how good it is. Right now I am holding on crafting the last one to make use of.
How did a vanillaware character end up in this game?
Daily reminder that if you play bloodcraft in this new meta, you're fucking cancer.
>>164274313
I remember losing earlier today because I didn't account for a midrange deck complete with Fencer dropping Banner out of nowhere while trading.
>>164274223
That image is really gay
Does Urd trigger a card's Fanfare because I bounced Cerb and didn't get the second Fanfare.
>>164274308
>Vania + Bats
>Good in control
I love this meme
You waste too many card slots pretending you're aggro and any good deck will either
>Heal through it
>Fill the board with bigger dicks than your shitty 1/1 bats and shrug off the peanuts damage your vampy does
That's assuming vampy even fucking survives more than a turn
>>164274413
Urd only activates last words
4/20
Orange, Suicide Blood
13833
>>164274413
No, Fanfares only activate when played from hand.
meh everything is daria or dshift
no fucking thanks. ill stay away even though I dropped like$360on the game already.
>>164274413
No fanfare, but you get the last words, and a urd-killed storm follower will get to attack again
>>164274293
I'm not a dragon player but as a Haven/Rune/Shadow player I can promise you that Enhanced Eyfa is MUCH harder to deal with than Forte.
I think you can make an argument for running 3 of both especially since Eyfa can be played unenhanced.
But I don't think you can justify playing Forte over Eyfa right now.
It's 2017 and no nep
>>164273985
12/20
97412
>>164274091
Be a hipster and make a PtP hare Eidiolon haven
they make daria rune busted so p2wfags feel good about piloting a brainless deck while climbing easily.im a bit salty but fuck if daria rune isn't the worst deck to fight against
>>164274518
Still not as brainless or powerful as Elana
I still don't expect how anyone thinks control blood works when you have to spend entire turns choosing between EITHER a combo, board clear, or making your own board when every other good deck can do two or three of those things at the same time while also having better statted followers and followers who by themselves are late game threats rather than needing combos
>>164272254
Taking up more cards with a deck that already has terrible cycle.
It works once every 50 matches but
LMAO
This is also why Garuda is kill with cards like him
When the dust settle i will liquefy my Storm cards for refund myself a Seraph deck too
>>164274474
Overreacting 3 days into the expansion. Why don't you wait until new decks are discovered?
Fuck one marry one kill one
>>164274474
If you play Daria you can counter the Dshifters.
If you play Elana you can counter Daria.
>>164274518
run triple breath it shits on tempo rune
>>164274437
>blood wolf
>good in control
>yurius
>good in control
Hey look, I can be retarded too !
>>164274518
>p2wfags
>sitting with four legendaries in hand with one being the alt art
oh wait was this the joke
>Had to pick skullfane but never drew him
Based skullfane letting me draw the good part of my deck
>>164274149
BLOCK MY WAY AND ILL CUT YOU DOWN
>>164274518
>>164274474
Forest is still just as broken but for some reason everyone complains about Rune.
>>164274590
the "new" deck is daria. and maybe we will get a shadowcraft deck once nep comes out, but thats about it.
>>164274623
jokes on you i unpacked all my legendaries and only bought 1 alt art deck from the sale
meanwhile he spends 500 nip dollars for a card sleeve
>>164274613
>Blood wolf
>not good in control
You need all the Bloody Mary closers you can get
Vampy isn't closing fuck all and Yurius is just there to be an early game thing they have to worry about without actually shitting your deck up with shitty bats that don't actually do anything for you unless you're aggro
>>164274512
that's what i've been doing. :^)
>>164274660
The people complaining about Rune are Forestshitters mad that other classes get to be even decent after Forest has dominated the game for literally the game's entire life.
>>164274361
kek
>>164274149
Because Cygames didn't want to include any efficient means of amulet removal in the game.
>>164274490
Fortes synergy with dragon emissary will always outclass Eyfa with a turn 5 forte turn 6 forte turn 7 forte.
>tfw can't stop losing to nothing but topdecks
>>164274590
Personally I'm messing with the idea of a shadow reaper deck with tyrant backup sounds cool. I'm trying to use ghouls banquet+sexton to keep up shadows and make corpses.
Sadly it's not great, but that just means I need to not rely on sexton and ghosts.
>>164274679
>>164274474
>he has try the neutral deck with sahaquel + Gilgamesh
33640 do it
>>164274591
But Imp Lancer is already my wife?
I guess fuck Blitz Lancer and kill Squall Lancer.
>>164274512
Give me a list and I will :^}
>>164274470
5/20, thanks rnjesus
Orange
13833
Sadistic Night is not a meme
>>164274679
>implying there's 1 (ONE) "new" deck in the exp
>implying deck refining doesnt exist
i love some of the card names
underbrush beast girl, wardrobe raider etc
that's adorable:3
>>164274750
>>164274490
What should I replace for minidork then? Trinity?
>>164274720
Which is fucking stupid because Forest didn't even get nerfed. They actually got a bunch of new cards that make them even stronger.
I hate playing against dshift more than anything but elves are the worst scumbags.
At least Elana players have the honesty to admit that their deck is pure cancer.
Remove elves.
I need a concede for quest (or preferably win a full game because I'm not done with the achievement either)
19227
>>164274861
I'd probably try to find room for 2 Trinity and 3 Minidork since Trinity's durability before evolve can be pretty important in some matchups. Though I haven't actually played around much with Face after the expansion, busy meming with incomplete Discard and Ramp instead.
So now that Dragon, Blood, and Shadow are top dogs again and Forest is the new meme craft, what's Arisa's "h-hear" equivalent?
>>164273985
Still up
97412
>>164274927
>At least Elana players have the honesty to admit that their deck is pure cancer.
AHAHAHAHA
>>164274927
>They actually got a bunch of new cards that make them even stronger.
robin fucking good
i hate that map><
>>164274953
What is the context of this image?
>>164274927
>at least Elana players have the honesty to admit that their deck is pure cancer
You've never actually talked to an Elanafag have you
Is castle in the sky worth using?
>all these aggro bats and Daria runes
Kill me. At least there are fewer Elana Seraphs.
>>164275027
If you enjoy losing
>>164274817
6/20, Thank you Nay
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>>164273260
Non aggro Blood auto loses to Dragon though. Like it is guaranteed no matter what Dragon it is. Constant Storm followers will destroy you and they couldn't care less about Vengeance.
Bahamut just straightup kills Blood. Control Blood literally doesn't have a single answer to it. If they try to play something like Queen of Vampires to stop Bahamut from attacking, they can just do a cheap board clear to rid the 1/1s.
Dragon is the second most seen class for me right now right after Rune. Like Shadow before, having an auto lose matchup against the most popular class is enough to make the deck not viable in the longrun.
>>164274821
>forest is the same
>dragon became discard or aggro
>blood became aggro
>sword is aggro
>shadow is still non existant is a sub par aggro deck currently, but maybe we will get a midranged or control once nep comes out
>Ruin is litterally d-shift cancer still or maybe the "tempo" daria even though its aggro also.
>>164274708
>You need all the Bloody Mary closers you can get
>while using 2 mary and 2 bonds in a deck with no other reach because warfiend and no face damage
I'll just assume you're being retarded for the sake of it
If you think bats are useless play lizardman and ditch veight, it's better
I finally had fun in arena.
A shame I got fucking vials at the end of the run.
>entire match history is against brainless aggro
Yes, even the Haven player was storm who had Birdsong + Garuda on turn 9 because he's a piece of shit human being.
Dragon was obviously face Dragon.
I'm getting so tired of this shit. It isn't fun when the one player may as well be a chimpanzee who matches the number on the card with the number of PP you have.
>2017
>playing non-aggro shadow, especially against haven, still near impossible if you want 50/50 win ratio
Is this good enough? I don't have dust anymore.
Marry, Fuck, Kill
>>164275038
Guess the kind of Haven of the loses
>>164274735
>what is bahamut for 500 alex?
Daria Rune is fucking brick city.
>>164274326
I've tried recording webms of silly shit but I can't record videos at a not fuckawful FPS but I will gladly explain why you should use Shadow Reaper. He's similar to Tenacious Ghost in that his initial damage will be nearly unavoidable since he can dodge removal and trade attempts. Basically the enemy can leave your other guys alone in an attempt to not buff reaper, or they can try to trade or remove your other dudes and then deal with a jacked up Reaper next turn. You can also make him grow pretty easily on your own via trades, Conversions, and Necros. Once he unclocks he's a soft ward that will completely snowball out of control if he isn't removed which gives your other guys space to keep attacking. Shadow Reaper puts a tremendous amount of pressure on the board and if people would stop pulling their hair over Nepthys and actually give him a chance they'll be surprised at the results.
>>164275151
Yeah its alright
>>164275154
Marry Vampy
Fuck Luna.
Kill those sluts.
>>164275027
I haven't seen anyone try it once since the set released. It's pretty much just a gimmick combo for Otohime.
>>164275164
Oh I don't know, that one deck that either has 10-0 matchups versus some decks and 3-7 against others
>>164273191
Because it's hard to balance. If the Vengeance effects were stronger then you would basically punish aggro and midrange for just trying to win. Everyone would hate Blood if Control Blood was actually good. People would complain about it like they did Elana.
You can tell they are trying to mess with it more like that card that gives you an evolve point, but it's just too little. So long as Control Blood relies on Vengeance it will always be bad, but the less it relies on Vengeance the less reason there is for its existence. I imagine the devs have struggled with that for a long time now.
>>164275154
Kill Blood Mary
Kill Dire Bond
Kill Beast Dominator
Marry and Fuck Eris
>>164275286
But they have no problem with Elanas and all this Rune shit? Come the fuck on
>>164275058
7/20, Thanks Darklink
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>>164275154
Fuck Dire Bond girl, don't marry her because she'd leave you for a younger girl.
Marry Beast Dominator instead.
Kill Bloody Mary because she'd do the same to you.Also will probably like it anyway
>>164274750
Forte is good but I just think having three of them in a deck that already has curving issues is a mistake.
Eyfa can curve as a 3 OR a 7 which is amazing.
https://twitter.com/ShinFast1025/status/815450240031412224
Some Lamp Dragon decks.
>>164275198
Every game I play against Spell Tempo is ridiculously one sided one way or the other. I've never had a close one, I win or lose by a huge margin.
I can't help but feel this is a poor design.
Is there even a use to Castle in the Sky? Shit takes so fucking long to use and it'll only affect 4 guys at maximum. Literally better off playing fucking Assualt Commander.
>>164275018
>>164274960
T. Arisa
>>164274847
>wardrobe raider
She's just Panty Raider to me.
>>164275449
if you pop it with an otohime you get a ton of storm units i guess?
>>164275390
>page doesn't exist
>>164275091
This is why I play Elana to cuck all the aggro fuckers back into mid decks.
I'm guessing face dragon is obsolete has it basically become storm dragon?
I know there's ramp, storm, discard, and aggro but I don't see aggro anymore because of rune removals and blood speed.
>>164275198
>I can't record video at awful FPS
I feel your pain, I had an insane ramp against rune and just demolished them, so I wanted to share it.
>>164275449
And it clogs up the board.
It feels so good to not be cucked by haven anymore
>>164275154
Fuck Dire Bond, kill Dominator, and marry Mary.
>ancient lion got itself killed by a lurching corpse rng
>forcing him to themis a khaiza and carrot board
J-just banish those veggies.
>>164275561
https://twitter.com/ShinFast1025/status/815451425530515456
He reposted because he made some typos.
shadow or blood prebuilt? That animated cerberus looks really tempting.
>>164275449
Otohime is 10 face damage with it
Or you could just use Albert
>It took me 5 unranked matches to complete my "win 1 match as dragoncraft" daily
>>164275357
8/20, thanks Messao
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>>164275565
It doesn't help, no matter how much they lose they will always play aggro. I'm starting to think it's not as much a problem with Hearthstone or Shadowverse, it's a problem with people who play these kinds of games now.Which is Hearthstone's fault.
https://shadowverse-portal.com/deckbuilder/create/6?hash=1.6.63dOW.63dOW.63dOW.67WPs.67WPs.67WPs.6BFgM.6BFgM.6BFgM.5_p-4.5_p-4.63e74.63e74.63e74.6BIrA.6BIrA.68zBM.68zBM.63dQ4.63fqc.63fqc.67RXC.67RXC.67RXC.6BI6S.6BI6S.6BI6S.61LeE.63gZA.63gZA.659nE.659nE.659nE.5_pFW.5_pFW.5_pFW.fqZ4o.5_sQA.63fqw.6BM-o
Am I doing this right?
>>164275439
The deck is sacky as fuck.
>>164275593
I had this game where I put down Lurching and Attendant in response to Death Sentence and it killed both of them and jacked Reaper up to 7/7 and the guy insta-conceded after. The only way it could have been more STORIES is if Lurching killed the Tiger instead of the bird.
>Haven players
>>164274953
T-t-time for target practice
>>164275449
No, it's a shit gimmick rare you maybe try once in unranked, screenshot it, and vial the amulets afterwards. Banner is vastly more practical and is a basic card.
>>164273985
14/20
97412
>>164275369
>Marry Beast Dominator
Living on the edge everyday
>>164275765
Explain your choice of this image to me
>>164275719
>click link
>it's a bloodcraft deck
No, you're not doing it right. You should be playing Haven, Rune or Forest.
>tfw you brick this hard
>>164275686
9/20, thanks Minalinsky
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>>164275545
But that's only if you have it at like 4 or less already. Otherwise you get literally nothing.
Jesus christ they shoulda just made it a smaller Leonidas Resolve if they wanted to do this shit, but limit it to like only Storm and no + stats, at least it works with banner then, albeit its still clogging your board along with banner.
>>164275665
Don't remind me I quit playing the day of the fucking patch because I faced 23 sword memes in a row with 3 alberts.
>>164275734
Haven is like the only craft I ever see ragequit. Once when I played the sword control stupid value game, and the other when I odin'd a Seraph
What do you guys think of Squall Lancer? I'm messing around with trying to have the standard evolve card for Control Blood. Wardrobe feels really bad. I'm actually enjoying Feena quite a bit, but the ability to clear multiple followers with one evolve is so useful.
Cool floral fencer, bruh.
>>164272376
Its working, thanks
>>164275667
Try this list>>164268686, it's a "cheap" build that I made
Someone in this thread was able to grab a screenshot of them winning with this deck and they liked it (i think)
>>164275643
What the hell is that first list for?
This second one looks fine to me though
>>164275636
Carrot is hilarious against Daria too. It trades with all their 2/2s for free, and unless they have petrification it gives no fucks about all their burn spells.
>>164274613
I've been thinking of dropping Yurius, but Blood Wolf is a necessary evil for Control imo. It's another removal spell (basically) you can use and against certain decks you can use it to try to slow them down or bait removal.
He is also a nice activator for Bloody Mary. Not the best, but often your other ones were used elsewhere.
>>164276013
Yeah, it was pretty fun! It's always nice to have a new deck to play, and I'm glad I got to finally use Satan that was sitting in my collection
>>164275449
What if you played Bahamut into it?
>>164271723
can you make a swimsuit version?
>>164276054
Not to mention wolf helps in the matchups where you really wanna just push face damage. >>164276161
Doesn't work, Castle is Swordcraft Followers only
is Goblin worth running in Shadowcraft aggro just so I can have 1 drop consistency with Shadow Beast/Skeleton Knight or should I put in a 2-3 drop that does something?I don't have enough LotF to run control before you tell me to do that instead
>>164275849
10/20, thanks Critias halfway there
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>>164276161
Swordcraft followers only
>first match in 2 months
>it's against a healhaven that ragequits
some things never change
I give up
Give me a TempoRune list
I can't it the cancer so i have to join it
A is no fun allowed zone
>People hate aggro (blood, daria storm haven)
>People hate control (dshift, ptp, seraph)
>People love midrange
back to /hsg/, you can play shaman all day there
>>164276054
You underestimate just how much Yurius fucks with people. Id rather drop Vania than Yurius.
Is Damus the most OP new card that no one is running?
>>164267076
How the fuck is sword supposed to be good this meta ? I played a couple game back and your early-mid game doesn't feel as powerful as pre-RoB anymore. So many fucking cheap ward and removals especially in that shadow where you don't have banish to answer to their bullshit attendant and anytime you try to take the field they just fucking tempest you.
>>164276157
Thank you, I'm pretty happy to hear that I was able to spread satanic joy.
>not even 2 sets of trump walls can save you from carrots
I bet it's unnerving for him to hear the entry quote nearly every turn.
>>164275937
I see banner ragequit mostly
>play elana against banner
>heal through their initial burst
>stack elanas
>continue to get my followers insane unnecessary stats with elana heals
>banner eventually just leaves
>>164275565
>implying Elana is any less brainless than aggro
>>164276227
>>164276204
Sucks sword doesn't have a skullfane to pop amulets for castle memes
>>164275937
>>164276329
Haven and Sword have the lowest entry barrier so it makes sense that they attract the most shitters fishing for easy wins.
>>164275186
>destoys instead of banishes
I think im just going to stop playing until Daria gets nerfed. This is a hundred times more retarded than haven and forest ever were.
>>164276616
Literally just make a deck with board clears.
>>164276616
t.Havenshitter
Daria is T2 at best and is a slightly better banner.
is forest still good in the xpac?
>>164276616
just play aggro blood and kill them by turn 5
>>164276329
banner = shadowcraft?
>>164276310
Also those fucking zombie wards. The only thing that seem to reliably stop their bullshit is haven and earth's banish but even then they have a card designed specifically to counter that.
>>164275937
Regardless of craft, AA fags always ragequit when they lose to a B meme deck
>>164276616
t. Forest or Haven tard who was oblivious to how cancerous his deck was
>>164276436
Both also either shit decks or have really bad matchups too. Like even a shitty variant of Elana/Seraph will trash most unoptimized decks
>tfw i fell for memes instead on investing on the actual cards i really needed
Feels bad being stucked in A
How does Dirtrune works? Is the least expensive meme i can made now
>>164276695
It's good in my heart always
behold, roach.dec, the purest form of forest cancer
it's like dshift but worse!
>>164276695
roach.dek
So, what decks win against Daria?
I'm tired of fighting against those fags and having those unfun matches and defeats
>>164276758
Literally anything with AoE removal
>>164276758
ElanaSeraph
>>164276310
I switched to more control heavy build, with my Forest deck as well. Bats and Daria are too fast for other aggro decks now IMO, and control/combo decks gained a lot of new cards to work with.
>>164276758
Aggro
Control
Just dont play midrange, the only deck that might be able to stand up to Daria is Mid Shadow.
>>164276743
>fairy whisper
It's like you want your pulls to whiff.
>>164276690
Haven literally has the best board clear to deal with Daria.
>>164276758
Shadow can trade favorably against their follower spam
Or just get removal like themis, cyclone blade, breath of the salamander, etc
>bullshit cards like May can strike through ambush
Fuck that LITTLE CUNT
I had 4 followers on the board and of course it had to hit the newly arrived 1/1 shadow reaper WHAT A LITTLE BITCH
>>164276323
Do others hear the "HAVE ANOTHER HELPING!"? I've still yet to have carrot used against me.
>>164276737
i wanna fuck daria to death
>>164276737
Wait you vital those legos?
>>164276882
Fuck off dubcuck
>>164276878
Why wouldn't May be able to strike through Ambush? That's a risk you just have to deal with against Forest man.
>>164276695
The old decks are likely to fade. The Silver Bolt deck is likely to become the new cancer deck for them.
>>164276925
No
I don't have them
I am stucked with shit decks in A0 and wasted resources around
Now i am fucked
>>164276826
Are aggrobats a bad matchup for Daria?
>>164276979
it's that or goblinmage x roach deck
>>164276994
Bats are a bad matchup only when bats has perfect curve
Otherwise Daria is way better and more consistent
>Got good friend really into Shadowverse
>Don't really use any pure netdecks, but do use online resources and get feedback to see which cards are good when building my own decks
>He is stubborn and refuses to let me give him any deckbuilding advice and refuses to use any online resources at all for card info
>Beat him 99.5% of the time, even with him playing a class that hard counters mine
>He always complains about his draw luck when he loses
I want to say I admire his dedication to building his own thing, but it's no fun at all to steamroll him all the time and I feel bad.
On a scale of 1 to 10, how much the dork is needed in discard?
>doing the story mode for the first time
urias is the most adorable one imo
no homo...
Daria isn't overpowered only retards lose to her. You have 4 turns to beat the fuck out of rune for free until they can play Daria.
>>164276232
Play aggro shadow if you're running into too much face rune. It shits out of them and, from what I can see, has already pushed them out of AA0.
>>164276829
that's why we have 5 pulls and ancient elves for more!
>>164276690
According to the japs daria is the top of t1
>>164277063
i think you are just bad.
Anyone has updated WolfBolt lists?
How it does agaist Dariashitters?
>Play control blood
>Go first literally every fucking game
why
>>164277063
Why don't you just go man-o-man in private match T2 then?
>>164277132
fuck off
>>164276973
Keep crying weeb. The dubs is actually top tier. So deal with it.
>>164277203
Some are good
Most are shit, specially most females
>>164276994
DON'T FALL FOR THE AGGRO BATS MEME
>>164277063
Maybe, unlike you and 95% of /svg/, he actually plays for fun, cool art and shit, instead of just the latest copy/paste hotness.
Try playing T2 with him then
>>164277191
I asked but we both don't really like playing T2.
Any critiques for this? I feel like Charon hasn't been working out very well even though she's one of my only Necromancy cards. Is Impious Resurrection really all that good?
>>164276398
>Implying Elana can win if they just mindlessly burn through their heals and dogmas
This is a B-rank mindset
>>164277256
i think youre just shit
>>164276616
>tfw loving this meta as shadow
Foul Tempest has never been more bright. Fuck the boring ass Dshift meta where you either get tempo on turn 1 and win or just get Kaleidoscoped for 3 turns and do no aggro damage and die.
New player here. I see the decks on the deckbuilding sites all have essential legendaries. So without those legendaries the deck won't work?
>>164276743
>Lionel
Why? You essentially waste a turn with a weak 5-drop. For what, +1 roach damage next turn? I could see if it was to empower Tia on turn 6 without having to burn an evo on a princess, but you only have one.
people really play this game with sound?
lol
>>164277386
some won't, for others you can replace it
34908
Concede anyone?
>>164277360
>implying most decks can live through infinite healing and removal until they get raped by 12/11 bunnies
>>164276743
I honestly think this is even more dangerous than Wolf Bolt.
Will Nep be a gamechanger or just another useless piece of shit?
>>164277371
You can't control your draws
Elana just grind you down if you don't have perfect curve
Daria outrun ytou without perfect curve
I keep playing AggroBats for giving it another chance because the deck can be fun and everytime it makes me fucking rage instead
Fuck that
>>164277386
Some legendaries are essential like Ancient Elf but others like Saber and Otohime are just big and beefy.
>>164277429
What a stupid and unnecessary post.
Just shadow my verse up.
>>164277485
She's gonna beforever in maintenance
>>164277405
for 0 cost roach so you can combo 2 turns earlier
the purpose of the entire deck is roach otk
Can i grind my way out of A with this?
>>164277464
>infinite healing
That's not how it works anon. You have 15 healing spells/followers and 3 of those should be saved at all costs.
If you burn through those healing spells without being able to buff your units you basically lose.
>>164277337
Try out Feena if 6 shadows is too heavy for you.
>>164277291
There's nothing wrong with playing for fun and discovering a game on their own, but anyone who's doing that shouldn't be complaining about draw luck and making excuses. They need to just accept or even enjoy their losses while fishing for the wins that they aimed for.
Fucking shit kids
>implying anything good will/would ever happen
>>164277515
huh?
i just can't understand those who rape their ears playing games with sound
>>164277241
Dub quality swings quite a bit, even in the same class. Like you listen to Water Fairy or May and they sound fine, then you hear Lilly and cringe.
>>164277615
t. deaf and dumb faggot
>>164277491
Are you the guy that couldnt play Control Blood either?
>>164277485
>get your board cleared by some themis faggot
>use nep with attendants of night, lurching corpses, hell's unleashers and khawys in your deck
>???
There's no way she would ever become uselessUnless they nerf her before release
>>164277615
idiot
>>164277639
it's rather you are deaf after misusing your ears for so long
also dumb because smart peoples are distracted by the sound from their complicated thoughts
why the aggression though?
>carrot shadowmirror
That's some hilarious matchup.
>>164277429
Whats the problem? You suck me off loudly.
>Going 1st 5x in T2.
Nice game shadowbabs.
>>164277491
Try using goblin mage for draws. All aggro bat 2pp are good. Wolf for lethal, vania, and yurius. It puts a 2/2 body on board AND put another fellow in hand. You wont run out of draws.
>>164277705
Do you have a carrot shadow dick pic?
>>164277705
The fuck up?
> elanaseraph vs daria
> never draw elana or seraph
> doesnt matter LUL priest/lion/themis
> he decks out
> implying haven ever dropped from t1 cancer
>>164277557
You probably should take out barrage unless you are facing alot of elves and bats
>>164277491
>>164277748
Also you'll get better value for Feena just in terms of pure stats than any of the blood EVOs.
So if you have something like Panty Robber, swap it out for Feena.
stupid question: any cards that have more than 3 copies is safe to liquefy down to 3 ?
>>164277578
Oh wow that's only 33 extra points of healing combined with card draw! You may as well concede on turn one, Elana is fucking trash!
>>164277651
Could easily brick if you don't draw the Nep IMO.
>>164277840
The point is that if you force Elana to burn all their heals they literally can't win without Seraph.
Their entire offense is based off the heals.
>>164276695
There is a pure roach deck thats circling around but no full data on how good is it right now.
WHY THE FUCK IS THIS PIECE OF SHIT CANCER ALLOWED&?/
Someone post a pendant deck
>>164278003
Shadow also gets you all the tools you need to make a, well, shadow deck.
>>164277746
where do people get this chibis from?
>>164273464
that's fucking funny