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Guys is MWO p2w?

0th for
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>>164210901
it's pay to not grind

real money only hero mechs and premium time just give you flat cbill percentage boosts to your earnings.
real money champions give you a flat bonus to xp earnings

>>164210731
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>>164210901

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>>164211642

Why is playing shit builds so fun? I can't get enough of these meme guns on my pepsicat.

ASSHOLES WHO REFUSE TO PLAY THE GAME AT ALL.

>they still que and think anti-playing is 'helping'

they won't focus fire. they won't turn and nuke suiciders behind them for free and ez kills. they refuse to move as a group. they refuse to do anything other than hillhump solo feed kills to the enemy team or friendly fire

>>164214056
suiciding assaults

>>164212685
memeguns are great for brawlers who need sustain rather than alpha. They do bonus damage to structure and will kill shit once the armor is gone.

a scat is not a shitmek

>>164216237
I feel like a shit for not running ECM on it, but then I get to do the MASC dance with 6 memeguns and it feels SO GOOD

Timber Wolf a shit! SHIT!!!

>>164216793
Sick shot kakos

>>164216985
Thanks Mr Salt

>pubbie Kit For with two LRM15s and nothing else

(You)

>>164220303
what are "You"s?

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>>164220271
>pubbie Kit Fox with a Gauss rifle and nothing else

>>164220271
>>164220518
>getting mad at a shit build on a 20t mech

>>164222373
>"i-i-it's okay because i'm a light!"
no it's not

are baths a social construct

>>164223123
No, hygiene and health aren't social constructs.
They're not stompy robots either.

>>164222373
A Kit Fox is 30 tons though...

Can any Mechs hold 8+ meme guns in the same medium/light weight class, or is the pepper cat the best for that despite losing ECM?

>>164224842
Cat's your only hope for that.
...right now.

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I just checked my score, is this good?

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>>164225469
>laserangel
Holy shit, I thought he was really bad. Why isn't he grinding on the A-team drops with Dashing and Recnamoruen?

>>164225469
Nice, good to see oldfags blowing the fuck out of EMP shitters

>>164225469
What happened to all the people that played one good match and never played again?

>>164226031
I think they got filtered to where you need a minimum number of matches now

>>164226031
It only counts people who have at least 10 matches on the leaderboards now.

>>164225627
Dashing is not a real konglord

is it still a meme if it's good and it works?

>>164225627

A meme started long ago because he praised connor.

>>164226370
WHO?

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>>164225627
This is what I get for piloting the Awesome 8R LRM boat.

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>>164227170
>

>>164227875
Why didn't you accept the invite to the TRUE KONGLORDS™

>>164226370
Is this meme going to keep being a thing in 2017? Are we not more creative? Stop giving that fuck attention and let him rot.

Watching Rather Dashing pilot his 4 CERLL Hellbringer made me feel funny in the pants

>>164228732
He's never done that tho.

>>164228826
Guys I did all that damage with one mech

>>164229205
What?

>>164229268
Faction play

Farms damage with big kong premades but gets killed in the last few minutes

Keeps calling out several times at the end game screen that all the damage he did was with his first mech

Klords please notice me

>>164229451
So is the goal of all this just to character assassinate him? Are we trying to kick him out of kong? I don't frequent the generals enough to know.

>>164229881
Not necessarily, since he was never in kong (very similar to how Kaelus came to associate with us), there can be no assassination. It's like blaming Norris for browsing the papercraft board

>>164230157
>since he was never in kong
This is news to me.

>>164229881
He keeps talking about stuff nobody cares about and think it is cool to talk about those things

>>164230237
So he tries to dictate conversations like kaelus did? Is there a new kong kast or something and he's trying to tell people how to run it? Is it more than him just seeming to be annoying? That's all I'm gathering from this, that he's being annoying. For that all this seems like a lot of effort instead of just telling him to shut the hell up.

>>164231226
Also his fake loud laughter is annoying so is his background music

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Nice

>>164233713
Pay2BShit

>>164233713
>you have sick ballistic and missile hardpoints on a clan battlemech assault, what kind of build you want
>just gimme a shitlander with less firepower
>say no more my man

I have made it my personal mission to bully a certain player where ever I may see them, on my team or otherwise.

fuck im a faggot for doing shit like this

>>164235729
Better drive to their house and suck their dick, that'll really show em LOL!

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>44.9
I hate this

Also starting to feel like 200 SRMs and 3000 Machine Gun rounds isn't enough, but if I kill any heat sinks then the LPL starts to feel useless

thanks again for the build, playing 2x LPL wasn't any fun compared to this or the Pulsecrow

Redpill me on the Panther lads, is it actually a good Mech or is it just a shit meme?

Hello will MWO be p2w in 2017

>>164237813
It's ok. It has decent quirks which let you do 2lpl or 2ppc, and it does work. The problem is it's still quite big for it's tonnage and there are better fast mid range skirmishers.

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I just broke into tier 3 a few days ago and continuing to win 60-70% of my games. Am I not total trash yet, guys?

>>164238738
>I just broke into tier 3
I just broke into 2017. Get on my level scrub.

So we all agree that we hate dashing and he should fuck off right?

>>164239247
Affirmative

>>164239247
Negative

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Alright, I have some time on my hands before the real new year's party begins.

Can you guys even compare? Also note that I finally found a use for the '20 dollar, 40 dollar shipping, 1000+ dollar purchasing ceiling before they even let you buy it'-card.

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and a happy new year

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Yes, I do indeed have a signed Ky Kiske guilty gear X concept art Daisuke picture framed on my wall.

Also primarily rifle target shooting trophies from before half of you were born.

>>164220518
http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=175&l=8c7810e11b50d41b53bdb99716a88acc4ba1ed94
it's legitimately fun

>>164240047
>not running at least one pepsi
>damage cap of 450 is legitimately fun

>>164240176
>taking MWO seriously

>>164239927
Who?

>>164240047
http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=175&l=8ba128212dfb4d7873d62b62da9eec40d02c4723

>>164240346
>http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=175&l=8ba128212dfb4d7873d62b62da9eec40d02c4723
there's no gauss rifle though

>>164240528
It's better.

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>people think Christ Roberts would disapprove of my card usage.

>>164240975
who cares?

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Happy New Years eurokong.

Also rest of kong, since I probably won't have a chance to post later.

>>164242868
Happy new year kongers

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>brought lrms to solo queue
>everything went better then expected

>>164244229
who

>>164245479
C1, obviously you fucking retard kongoloid.

So what's the deal with the Executioner / Gladiator? I mean, it has MASC and 7 lasers in one arm, that seems pretty good. Why is it less popular than the Cyclops?

How many years until we get Streak LRMs? Just a couple more, right?

>>164240014

>Vass used to be a good boy
>Was turning his life around
>Shooting trophys
>If only they had more money for dem programs.

>>164245553
Because it's extremely bad. It's Spurdomech tier or probably even worse.
>gorilla arms with low hardpoints
>8 tons and 4 critical slots of locked jumpjets that work like dogshit because it's an assault mech
>locked into ferro no endo
>locked crit slots in RT fucks up the ballistic hardpoint omnipod so it's very limited what you can put there
>losing RT is basically death for almost every build
>maximum laser arms don't have option for arm actuators because fuck you
>the builds it can run make it either a 95 timber wolf with worse weapon mount locations or a 95 ton pulsecrow that's obese by 40 goddamn tons
>NO STRUCTURE QUIRKS despite being the hugest fucking robot in the game, being undergunned as hell for it's weight, being terrible at peeking because of low mounts and assault mech agility, and being terrible at poptarting because assault mech JJs

>>164246408
This. The only fun I had in the sEx was building for brawls and sneaking up on heavies then bum rushing them with MASC.

Like those videos you see of giant retards using tard strength and speed to beat on regular people.

>>164236106
>remove .4 tons of armor
>bump up to 2 machine gun ammo tons.

>>164240014
Where's your Justice poster?

which robots are the most stompy?

>>164246408
Thanks for the thorough explanation.

who here paid 2 win for the roughnecker?

>>164248570
Atlas and Bear are both very stompy.

>>164248909
it's IS and has no guns on the arms, how could it ever possibly be good?

Whats the stalker build for lurm boating?

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>>164249435
Like this.

>>164249435
>implying shoulder weapons aren't the most important
>implying the pig won't gib it yuuuge quirks

>>164246408
It needs jumpjets to be buffed, some sort of structure quirks, or some sort of weapon quirks. Otherwise it's literally the worst clan assault.

>>164254835
It really should have noticeable structure or armor quirks. By TT rules the mobility, JJs and the speed it can go with MASC makes it harder to hit and gives it better control over range brackets than a "normal" assault mech, especially if you can keep bunnyhopping into cover hexes.

>be clanner
>run clam XL engine
>fast and efficient
>torso twisting like a boss

>be IS
>run standard engine
>fuck yeah, got all my good shit on one side-torso, i can torso twist like a boss
>slow as fuck, feels like i'm one weight class heavier for no reason
>enemy cores my good torso instantly and all my weapons are gone
>die moments later

>be IS
>run meme XL engine
>can fit a decent load-out on but losing even one side is instant premature death
>practice "torso twist fundamentals"
>instantly cored and dead because lol IS-XL
>center torso wasn't even scratched

what a balanced game

>>164260079
Maybe you should stick to clan mechs if you're so bad.

Happy New Year Kongers and Konglets alike

t. Greg

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Why the fuck aren't you losers playing Mechwarrior Living Legends instead? It's free, and now it's alive again.

Literally no excuse.

>>164261587
Post numbers

>>164261676
If it weren't New Years 2-3 would be full. Currently 1 is full and two are half full.

It's getting updates again too.

>>164261884
Wow, three whole servers
That's great, really lively, definitely worth getting into

>>164262686
You know that's actually pretty good. Too many multiplayer games are just completely dead.

>>164260996
What about Kong groupies?

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>shitty meme panther outdoes all of the team

>>164262686
MWO is shit and this is agreed to be the best Mechwarrior game. Why shouldn't you?

>>164266472
Strafedrapedgg by aerotech, i dunno?

>>164267124
git gud, it just means you're shit

>>164267163
if by git gud you mean pack RAK's, I already do my dude

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>>164265747
>mfw I just broke 1k dmg with memefox

>tfw swear you're gonna nail the goose + ppc shot but your crosshair seems like it's lying to you and the shoot veers slightly off course

I asked before about which Ebon Jaguar to buy while they're on sale, and someone told me to get the EBJ-A and swap out one of the side torsos. Which one am I supposed to swap out for?

Also some recommended setups would be much appreciated.

>>164274215
None of the variants have a bonus over the others. It's just if you want to run a specific setup you may have to buy omnipods.

Thinking of buying the Marauder-IIC pack. Worth it? Hero?

>>164277782
Hero's really good and Marauder twosies are solid

If I love dual PPC nova, is dual PPC summoner just a step up for that playstyle?

I want something just as jumpy, but with a bit more armor and speed

>>164278398

Oh nevermind, I can't nipple PPC unless I pay 2 win. :)

So the Grasshopper 5J is the least desirable of the bunch, isn't it? Will be trying to make the cash to buy 3 since they are really cheap with the sale.

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watch the fuck out!

Is there any game out there that has a modular/part-based stat system, e.g. LBX? Sorry, new to this general.

Hello?

>>164280896

front mission and armoured core series. but that has GOTTA FAST Gundams in it, not stompy robutts.
chromehounds, except it's dead.

>>164279050
>obligatory truck meme

>>164282723
>>164279050

they sent in the supers!

watch out for those side torso rockets

>>164282440
AC 5 is a mix of stompy and fast IMO
AC 4 is full SANIC

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>>164280896

MWO has a pseudo part and module system, but it's somewhat abstract. Your robot has two arms, two legs, head, center torso, and sides. Death happens if the CT, head, or both legs get knocked out. IS tech robots with XL engines die if they lose a single side torso. Clan tech XL needs both sides taken, but there's a steep mobility cost for losing a single clan XL side. Damage to any area (under normal conditions) only ever hurts that area, and because robot shootouts are short, brutal, and heavy on the positional warfare, aim and repositioning are very important. Shitmechs that are mobile can still fight. Legged, but otherwise fresh, assault robots, are already dead. Individual skill can be effectively measured by looking at a guy's abilities to: torso twisting fundies, being a crack shot, morale/the ability to significantly affect either team's morale, typically by reputation and legends.

Torso twisting is key, and not only keeps you alive longer, but it forces enemies to wait and miss out on DPS (guns have a relatively long cooldown, for a vehicle combat game, with big caliber ones taking many painful seconds between shots. Proper fundies and the ability to actually pay attention to his cooldown allows you to be in full fucking control of any engagement, which is a morale killer for all but the most determined of tryhards). The alternative is to just spray and pray, which doesn't really accomplish much in real matches, but can break the morale of pubs and shit players, as they swarm and come at you like injuns versus thundercane infantry, and don't quite understand the difference between your whole robot lighting up with 0.7 pellet damage per section to a max range LBX shot, versus the pointblank punishment of a single AC20 applied to the CT a couple times.

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>>164280896

The best push, by the best players, can get fucked by having fast robots react, and directing firepower into their vulnerable asses while they're engaged from the front, thus preventing any kind of torso twisting fundies, crack shot aim, legendary feats, and denying all but the strongest of morale boosting mega drop commanders their influence. The MWO term for this situation is ggclose. In MWO, gg means get good, and is a slight insult, while stating ggclose in chat is one of the strongest and most effective insults after you executed an actual ggclose.

Attacking obvious drop callers and pubstars is very effective short term disruption against many of the stronger teams, but becomes less viable the shittier your opponent is. Also, many units have designated secondaries, so even if you kill the boss, his minions will handle the drop while he rages that he got assfucked by a ggeasy kill powerjenner out of nowhere. The average peasant, even the average casual group, has no ranks, no roles, no trust in anyone, or any role specialists, and barely enough understanding to assemble their own builds. In EVE, you generally gotta fear the zerg swarms of shitty swordfleets, or whatever is hot at the time, but MWO, despite pretending it's an MMO, is similar to CS. The game itself has no business being so much fun, but the fun moments eventually get fewer and rarer, so you gotta look for them harder. This is a hobby dubbed 'mining for fun.' More often than not, once you get the fun, you also run into some hotshot ace mega tryhards. This is the natural order of things. You mined fun, but you didn't realize that these guys have been waiting all evening to get these guaranteed matches with your guys, who are dangerous, and make them play with some kind of coordination. Inevitable, one mining operation runs out of fuel/too many players have to go water the cats before church, and once one of them disappears, the other tryhards tend to do the same.

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>>164283423
>tfw haven't played a double basic mech in forever so fundies are only usefull for tanking, can't weave that shit in with cooldowns
I miss outskilling people.

>>164282440
>>164282801
I'm looking for a series that has a variety of both styles, and a potential for blending the skills and/or perks of both through customization.

>>164283423
>>164283632
Didn't ask for a complete lecture, but I read most of it anyway. Also, I said new to the GENERAL, not new to the site.

Regardless, the game sounds fun. You know of any more games like it that focus around customization?

>>164283904
Star Citizen

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>>164280896

MWO, despite being occasionally lots of fun, suffers from a lack of proper documentation, shit official tools, shit balancing, and a comically inept development team, who will get to you. If you play the game, they'll change something, or someone will say something, that triggers the most intense rage in your mind. This is part of the fun until a developer/publisher person/random PGI propaganda arm dude (the only still breathing MWO podcast/news anything living is the one that PGI bought outright with favors, early access to anything they wanted, test server powers, 2 weeks lead on any release, and eventually the goodies had to be expanded to actual employment) decides he should stalk e-famous players, who haven't even fucking played the game, been on the forum, or looked at shit in months, then decide to email said players using their real names (information he would not have access to without very dangerous and powerful tools that also allow him to view things like legacy closed beta signups, purchase history, your name, your location, and etc.)

Needless to say, this was one of the most critical errors they ever did, and was the peak before 'they turned over a new leaf,' which was code for 'we fired him, and gave you robutts, so plz forgive us, and buy another robutt bundle, plz.' They underplay it, but senior staff abusing credit card information and shit submitted under NDA, while conducting bullshit stalking of people for their posting habits on unrelated, third party locales is serious fucking business. Damage was 'lessened' to the point the CEO said he was looking to 'triage MWO.' He was very moved by the drama because he knows he can't afford another lawsuit ever (sued by a huntin' company for failing to deliver a huntin' game that could compile on the wii after XX days extension on the streetdate, lost all the rights to ALL the assets and IPs, decided to make a shell company to absorb the lawsuit forever, because fuck the law, we're PGI)

>>164280896

Might as well go balls deep with the history since it's a new year and I can't go to bed for another bit.

PGI insists on not learning anything, as they have the dubious distinction of being a no-name shit canadian dev team, privately owned by an artsy faggot who has money (he was sacrificed during the combo starcitizen clone/community manager with legacy senior powers going too far spectacle, which he authorized), and feels the need to stick his greasy hair and shit ideas into everything, and a micro-managing shit boss acting as the CEO, who effectively does everything except act as the CEO, and has no problem insulting and making fun of his most hardcore and robot addicted customers to their faces, even going so far as to getting piss face drunk before a live podcast audience, and telling the guild leaders and old men that they should be thankful that he made this game for them, because no one else will ever give a fuck about them. Everybody hates them, and besides, PGI owns the fucking thing now. If you don't like it, fuck off. Hand over the money, peasant, or stop wasting server resources on my single blade rack server. Just the one. We ain't need more than this one cab to host the whole playerbase. Whenever confronted with any kind of feedback, the CEO's default response is that he knows best, because he's the boss, and he's been there the longest, so it must be true. Feedback is not wanted or desired. He has a better plan, and you're not even game designers, bro.

>>164283904

Heavy gear assault is on steam now, and works, but has fucking bizarre as fuck quirks and bugs.

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>>164280896

In short, the devs are poison. But how does this translate to them being japanese? When ANYTHING, ever, for any reason, goes wrong, PGI sacrifices a random person to the masses. They have only ever made a single forced, 'fuck you, I'm still right, and not really sorry at all'-excuse, and accept no responsibility for anything, no matter how big or small. As long as they have grunts to execute, it's cool. Generic throwing of underlings under whatever bus is standing nearby is guaranteed during ANY and ALL garbage fires, which typically get started by someone senior having a pet project without talking to the rest of the team. Garbage fires have gotten a lot rarer as the game has slid more into 'don't rock the boat, just fucking keep it running until MW5'-mode, and the decline in contributing posters/people who give a fuck, but they do still pop up, and are typically about something from years ago, proving the tenacy and insanity of old men. If someone who's part of the elite inner circle at the company ever fucks up for real (only recorded publically once), the punishment is the ancient japanese tradition of simply elevating them to venerable, living ancestor status. They get an office someplace else, are no longer attached to any projects except shit they start themselves, get a fat salary, and typically undergo a long term process where they suffer withdrawal from lack of gold infusions that kept them young, but also drink themselves 50 years older in record time, because they thought they could make a starcitizen clone without anyone noticing it was a starcitizen clone.

>2017
>still playing MWO

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>>164284601
Vass go to bed

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>>164284601
>>164284372
>>164284264
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>>164283423

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>>164280896

The community is open to all, but generic chatter sounds something like this, except depending on the speaker, it might get quite a bit more hostile, and the tryhards are heavy on the alpha beta omega charlies, 88 south. MWO is also sponsored by doritos. Many guilds have different internal memes.

Shaq rushing OG, jump the gate. Better hope you guys got your dubs and coolant and didn't aim for the truck hitting builds this time, or I'm forcing you to play a stock match in T1 IS versus Gyrok's golden star lord clan yiff elite.

Dude, how do you even make a robit without XL, endo, DHS, pepsis, goose, or clantech?

I remember when Uncle Tom used to unzip his long dong every 2 minutes on the dot. At least we're past that, amirite? If only prince pubbie could stop bringing his standard 200 lurm founder atlas with 20 singles. He's done this every sunday for half a decade now.

ggclose, uncle Tom. I'll cherish your memory everytime I think of my BJ collection and dream of my own island where I can position change game mechanics at will.

Dude, you're fucking high. That's not a shaq, that's a blargh.

I'm not high, I'm blind, and I'm still the best sniper in the whole guild. OH GOD, THE WARBOSS WENT DOWN, AND WHY IS NO ONE DUNKING THE POWERJENNERS!? YOU DON'T NEED TO WORRY ABOUT THE BATTLEDILDOS AND SINGLE WANG PUSHING ON THE FATLUS.

Wow, I fucking hate my team.

clothser than trannyverse crowdfunding at least, hue hue hue hue hue hue hue.

There's unfortunately not a single compiled source of all the generic and common shorthand, but guilds WILL train anyone, no matter how shit. New blood is treasured, provided that said new blood will obey the already established old man rank order and any hazing/meme/roleplay bullshit ritual period. Also, everybody who is anybody knows everybody else who is, or has ever been, anybody. The core is incredibly incestuous, while the big spenders make incredibly poor decisions, like buying archer grab deals.

>That horribly addictive rush of elation and triumph when the potato team of shitmechers you're in on fucking polar shitland (for the tenth goddam time in a fucking row) actually listen to you call the whole match, co-operate, focus fire on targets, push as a group, peek as a group and stay calm and patient altogether giving you an almost flawless 12-1 victory and people actually thank you for calling the match and are grateful to learn how to not suck.

>yfw you realise will never have a match that golden ever again.

but but but i need my fix of
>AWWW YISSS!! BAD. ASS!

i'm not an addict. i can stop playing mwo anytime i want! honest! I JUST DON'T WANNA!!!!

Must have team co-operation and communicationingerers. i neeeeeeeed them

>>164285789
you talk like a huge faggot

>>164285838

well your shits all retarded.
and you dress like a fag.

also, the 5 medlas, x3 LPL banshee wasn't working for me, so i swapped to the x2 sml las, x5 LLAS metamechs build and THAT's working great for me.

>>164285658

What did he mean by this?

Anon from>>164280896
I am so sorry I asked this question.

>>164285957
That's because you're evidently better at making the other team lose than you are at actually wining.
That first banshee would tear your new one a new asshole, just can't farm damage and kills on retards that don't know how to get in and murder you.

>>164286012

It's examples of the horribly cancerous meme/joke slang shorthand the playerbase has developed iirc.
>>164286048
it's entertaining at least, man.
but hell, even mw is ALL about dat customisation.
parts can't be changed except on mwo omnimechs and then it's just their omnipods that look the same but have different hardpoints

but if you run a meta build and use it how the guides and gerg advice say you'll do infinitely better than taking a stock mech out.

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>>164284953

I'm leaving for shit in 20 minutes. I'll sleep whenever I'm done with my real life bullshit, and can go back to my happysauce and money.

>>164280896

The average age of robotic old men is early 30s. Rarely you'll see someone in their early 20s. All the formerly young people have aged 5 years since this game launched. When you hang out with the notable guilds, regardless of why they're considered notable, you'll run into wonderful and amazing things, like how the top ranked guild has 3 players aged 50+, and one currently on the bench who's in his 70s, or how there's me, and the devs have a legit hateboner for me, all because I gave harsh, long, and mathed out feedback on their forum, and took screenshots of their lies, so they couldn't memoryhole anything. This was apparently enough for men who own and operate a gaymin studio to declare me their mortal enemy, and even attempt multiple (all but one) completely harmless and ineffective campaigns to 'get back' at me, or censor me on the forum for 'reasons.'

The majority of all actually crackshot sniper guys are fearless and many have poor real life vision.

The terms of service are incredibly fluent, and if you make big spenders mad, then specific words will be listed as banned. For instance, saying bofa was worth a 2 week timeout.

The devs rarely, if ever, play the game anymore. Our former balance and design overlord, Paul, essentially stopped playing two weeks after they implemented the minimally viable leaderboards. This one time, they all shared in some PGI flavor koolaid, and competed in MRBC, because 'how hard can this be?' They were placed in the babby league, brought a mix of stock robots and waifu gundams versus roleplayers, and lost so pathethically, the roleplayers couldn't even muster a ggclose. It was one of the saddest kiddy pool fights of all time.

Pictured: MWO's competition. Needless to say, it's a bigger joke than even MWO these days.

>>164286269

except the first metamechs build for las vomit with x3 lpl, x5 medlas has a cooling of 1.14. It cannot get in a rip things apart because firing either group together more than 2-3 times melts your own mech and chain firing them requires so much face time and exposure that you cannot shield at all. whereas the grouped llas stabs have yes a longer duration, but those stabs are cooler and as soon as you are finished on you can shield. whereas the medlas' has to be kept chainfiring for EVER. meaning with the llas i'm stabbing them hiding my big flat side t's with GIANT shieldarms as the cd's run out instead of LOOK AT THESE BIG hitbawxes facing the enemy for 30 seconds or more

So the Roughnecks pre-order is ending soon. Is it worth it?

Looking at it, at least the 3 standard variants don't seem capable of doing anything smart.

> RGH-1A + (S): 4x Ballistic, 2x Missile 1x Energy
>RGH-1B: 3x Ballistic, 3x Missile, 1x Energy
>RGH-1C: 3x Ballistic, 4x missile

>>164286779
banked chainfiring ac2's?
-1c could be an x4srm6+a bomber?
it's a 65 t / 60 t? innit, so no x3 ac10s or anything big...

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>>164286416

It's the lightest MWOese I could think of on such short notice. Depending on where on the skill spectrum you are, and what robot has hurt that guild's most bittervet top tier players' butts the most over the years, the nicknames for things change, but basics like BJ, battledildo, wang, shaq, occasionally shaqhawk, phallus hawk, also pixie but popularity of that term has declined a lot since the golds realized that the only thing they love more than shitmechs, lurms, and grab deals are poor penis jokes, powerjenner, raidboss, HEAVY CAVALRY, 'A1,' cataphuct, splatcat, rayban, white whale, fatlas, and some even acknowledge calling the DDC the warboss. Really fucking old men have different memes and cultures, but few dare dispute the morale boosting power of 100 tons of ECM driven by the most stubborn and fearless drop commander available at the time, so they call DDCs standard bearers, totem pole, and queen.

The current top players, at least the ones that are social enough to talk, still have A1 and gausscat PTSD. It's strange talking to normally ultra calm shorthand drop commanders, and how they change when I put something ancient like pic related up for them.

I genuinely find the robutt sub-culture - rather, the clash of so many strange sub-cultures 5 years ago, the different age brackets, strange mixing of social classes, old men being forced to bend their knee to people half their age and kissing the ring because respect, grandpa, dealing with a shit game, making all the tools, and essentially doing all the hard work and lifting, because it's the only semi-viable robot shooter, possibly also the only entertain semi-tactical shooter as well - and how it's gotten to where we are now, and yet reminding any bittervet of anything ancient just takes them right back.

>>164286954
65 tons, yeah.

RGH-1A with that AC2 stuff:
>4xAC2 w/ 10 tons ammo, XL280 engine, 2x extra DHS (endo + ferro)

Don't think there's a need for chainfire, but I guess it's all up to quirks to see whether or not that builds worth it. Could also run it with 3xUAC5's like the Jagermech, only worse. And it needs a ton of quirks to be even considerable.

>>164287273
well, chainfire'd would mean that you'd finish cd before getting around to firing the first ac again so you could avoid jams?

>>164287634
AC and JAM

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>>164287634

Chainfire is a meme that should be ignored. If you need guns on chainfire, use multiple firegroups and practice basic fire control.

Or download one of a billion macro programs so you can make one that makes you chainfire faster than the hardwired, PGI enforced, but not strictly, only roughly, 0.5 second wait time before it cycles to the next gun in the firing group.

Jamming is only a feature on UACs, and the IS only has the UAC 5, which still works very different to the now mostly roleplaying tier clan UACs.

Contrary to popular belief, you never gain anything from putting shit on chainfire, except if you're doing either of the following:

a) you have an important player who's a fucking pussy when cornered trapped, but your robot is shit. Keep shooting LBX pellets into his hiding place. He never moves out. Pubstar neutralized, and he didn't even kill anyone.
b) you need to farm a ton of CoD assist rewards very quickly. Chainfire shit weapons or the longer duration large energy at every dorito. This only ever needs to be done once a game.
c) a large number of pubs in shitmechs legit look set to overwhelm and important position. You switch to chainfire so you can 'attack' multiple targets in the same cycle. Pub morale shatters at your 'barrage,' and your 'very dangerous overwatch, alpha omega charlie red BJ.' Because two guys broke, the rule in the ghetto is that now all the other guys must also roll for morale, but pubs have a maximum leadership of 4, so good luck. Protip: shoot whoever has the most lurms first. If there is none, shoot the guy with the expensive roleplaying megagun build. If the pubs all brought champion robutt tier gundams, shoot whatever fat guy is leading the charge and his wingman. At best, they'll pussy out. At worst, they'll hesitate and cockblock everybody trying to approach in single file behind them.
d) it's the year 2013, and you have your 6 AC2 jag setup and ready, with 'totally cheating' macro to make golds mad.

>>164287634
Jam? On AC2s?

What are you smoking?

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440 was 25% ammo remaining. He ketp backpedaling away from a Catapult, all the while LRMing to no effect. Should have saved a clip...

my bad, i was thinking of uac 5's

>>164289208
meta mechs wants me to put 2 uac 5's on the banshee 3E highmounts build. i was wondering if i could just you know, use ac5's instead?

http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=144&l=c942145ffac886df874f7c9404cf26ffef235480

http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=144&l=00a5d7a35d3c88c2c600607347433a232118745b
this let's me use that left arm as a much better shield arm to protect them ac's

Hello is this 2017?

>>164292713
Yes this is 2017.

Hope you brought an umbrella.

>play ac kodiak
>alpha mash through a lance of heavies and assaults
Haha still works, fuck you piggy

>>164295585
>Have 3 Kodiak-3 on my team
>They hide the whole match in the back and do double digit damage

Nothing changed, fuck you piggy

Lurm team mates too focused lurming a light mech and not noticing the whole enemy team is flanking again

Does clan have different ghost heat rules or am I just spoiling myself with loadsaguns?

>>164298013
http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/equipment

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Nice Spider

>>164299396
Someone looked at this in the mechlab and said "looking good"

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How dumb am I?

>>164304346
switch to spls and add more everything

>>164304346
Are you just trying to modify the stock build? That's what it looks like, and it's pretty bad.

>>164304346
http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=281&l=6cd96a0db48ab7f84278d7fe56436f7efe696f15

>>164304698
are you serious about the tcomp?

>>164304346
should prolly switch to a lbx if your just gonna stall with uac

>>164305369
It only benefits the small pulses, but any range boost on those is a plus, especially paired with the spl range module.
If you absolutely don't want it, swap it out for an extra ton of ammo or more leg armor.
If you want it to benefit the gun, swap it out for a UAC/20.
Else, scrap the whole thing and just do the Gauss LL/LPL "meta" meme.

>>164306046
>>164305472
>>164304508
>>164304506
>>164304698
Just ran SPLs Tcomp and UAC/20.

It worked very well, thank you.

post your dankest CRIT seeking builds

How do you make the COM-TDK tolerable?

Bigger engine with that 1t you get from endosteel?

>>164308523
Refund

>>164308523
4x med pulse and a big ol' xl engine.

>>164308523
Why did you buy that?

>>164309634
had spare MC after getting pirate's bane

>>164309994
>pirate's bane
It's a small guy

its always wonderful to see that I'm not the worst player around

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>>164308523

You can have standard engine and medicine laser memes for what used to be an incredibly tanky IS shitmech light that still manages to go significantly fast, but not maximum sanics. I assume it has even more facetank after all the rounds of kwirks, but probably check before you make any plans. This used to be the actual way to get shit done in it. Putting XLs in tank kwirk robutt isn't all that great, but the resized commando has much smaller sides. Too bad it took them a billion years to unfuck literally the second light they ever added to the game, with one of the oldest and most sold heroes, that has been below even Fang tier for so many years, you just expect them to be gigantic pieces of shit.

Gotta actually use your underdog status, though.

>>164312525
I lose the arms before I lose my torsi. At which point i'm gunless, which is rather pointless in a non-ecm light.

XL doesn't cut the survivibility on lights by much.

>>164286637
>cooling of 1.14
So why aren't you just firing everything that doesn't trigger ghost heat at once, then twisting for your mana back? Some hung mongoloid with chain firing grouped 5LLs wont kill you through your arms before you kill him and he sure as shit can't trade face shots.

With the first Banshee you actually spend MORE time shielding. No fuckin wonder you we're getting shit kicked if you were chain firing 5 mediums goddam.

>>164286637
lolwut

You have a big fucking pinpoint alpha that melts everything but an assault in two shots. You don't need to ever fire more than 3 times so it doesn't matter that you can't.

The fact that the banshee can just peek a little bit and unload big alphas in a short time is why it's great.

>just play ecm snipers and lurm assaults and vote for snow maps
>tfw I've become a part of the problem

>>164287015
besides dropping with KONG, I miss your tirades Vass. you always seemed to have good thoughtout posts that no one ever listened to. I'm going to build a new PC with new years $$$. Are IS mechs crap against the clan stuff? Clan wasn't in it last time I played

How good is pepsicat compared to LPLcat?

Seeing as how a lot of clanners are bringing poptart Novas and Hunchies, would these two work as counters?


http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=154&l=ac0f4a6acfd3ad0d90d312d10a1223d123bc2a13

http://mwo.smurfy-net.de/mechlab#i=80&l=5f912fe08c0afabcc8531d4f47f2407e8bbc9d51

would making it so you need 4 engine crits to kill a mech fix IS XL engines?

>>164316880
IS XLs should just take more crit slots and slow you down more if one side pops, all the quirk bullshit fixes is a symptom of IS XLs/misc. tech being shit

>>164316192
God tier on cold maps, lava lamp on hot maps.

>>164316880
No, IS niggers would still complain about dying too fast.

Simply making IS XL engines survive a side torso loss doesn't work as there are no "engine crits" in the game right now. Seriously. It's written in the game code as something like: "IS XL death @ 1 side torso loss = [y] / n"

PGI would have to introduce engine critical hits for that side torso loss to not completely invalidate standard engines. It would also make IS mechs with loadsaquirks ridiculously overpowered, and invalidate standard engines entirely.

Standard engine tonnage costs need to be looked at as well. At a simple 0.5 ton per 5 rating below 300 and 1 ton per 5 rating above 300 curve you'd enable a whole lot more standard engine builds. Both clan and inner sphere. Staples like STD280 goes from 22 to 19, STD300 goes from 25 to 21, STD400 (previously impossible to fit and not be laughed at) goes from 49.5 to 31. You'd still get superior weight savings from XL engines at the cost of some space, just not 50%.

Simplifying standard engine tonnage however only helps IS heavies and assaults. Lights and mediums don't get more than like 1-2 tons of extra space. This is why a combined introduction of engine critical hits would be beneficial, as now you'd have to really watch out for lights hunting your ass with machineguns and small pulse lasers.

>>164317813
think they'll do that or am I kidding myself and "lol it's fucked forever"

>>164316185

There were certain key changes made after trannyverse and other garbage fires, so IS robutts get to have kwirks, which is PGIese for 'buffs and various weapons bonuses so you'll feel like running GOOD GUNS on your robots.'

We had a period where people were brawling, then there was a long laser winter, and now it's peepers and goose on everything again, especially clan robots due to severe ballstic nerfs.

>>164317813

The actual code names are almost like how the unreal engine guilty gears have 'candle zones' and 'no candle zone.' which is how the game tells if you can use roman cancels or not.

>>164317813
>Standard engine tonnage costs need to be looked at as well. At a simple 0.5 ton per 5 rating below 300

That's stupid and you should feel bad. Nobody wants a standard 300 to weigh 30 tons.

>>164318773
by that math, a STD 300 would weigh either 15 or 15.5 tons, did you read his post wrong?

>>164318046
Remains to be seen after the skill tree revamp. They've postponed all balance changes until then.

>>164318773
0.5 increase per 5 rating from STD100. Ends up at 21 tons for STD300.

Urbanmech is the only mech with a sub 100 rating engine that weighs NEGATIVE tons.

>they're airing nigger sphere whines about XL engines reruns
>again

>>164319438
Did you? 30 tons is right.

>>164318046
Forgot to add to >>164319464

>Remains to be seen after the skill tree revamp. They've postponed all balance changes until then.

[Cont.] It's possible as was previewed in the trailer that you can choose extra armour and structure quirks on top of some residual quirks that certain chassis will retain even after the revamp is released.

This could mean that you could possibly forego picking pointless weapon quirks and instead go with some rather ludicrous armour and structure quirks, giving components like side torsos a lot more hitpoints than they previously had. Even as of now, most IS mechs have the hitpoints in their center and side torsos of mechs 5 to 10 tons heavier than them.

So as such, I can understand PGI waiting on any changes until after the skill tree revamp as some IS mechs can possibly become tougher than clan mechs up to 20 tons heavier. Victors already have the same armour through quirks as King Crabs, for example. Now imagine a Victor with more armour AND structure than the current King Crab.

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>>164320228
Alt. Config. A
Configured for a more all around combat role, the Warhawk A had two ER Large Lasers for long range combat. These were supported by an LB 10-X Autocannon that could fire both solid and cluster ammunition and an LRM-15 launcher capable of providing long range missile fire support. For close combat, the 'Mech mounted a highly accurate Streak SRM-6 launcher.

>>164320415

Fucking lore loadouts.

>550 damage
>produces 5 kills, 3 assists

who else /efficient/ here?

>>164319518
Give the IS light engines and that'll shut everyone up. Except clans who would probably cry that it's OP despite them weighing more than XL's.

>>164320415
>For close combat, the 'Mech mounted a highly accurate Streak SRM-6 launcher.
In what world is this a big deal, btw? Wow! One SRM6 launcher, what a fuckin' threat!

>>164322102
All of the other weapons work perfectly fine at close range too.

>>164323616
LRMs too?

>>164324067
Clan lrms have no minimum range in tabletop and most other versions of mechwarrior.

>>164324067
LRMs are capable of indirect fire and disperse over a smaller area than Short Range Missiles while causing less damage. Inner Sphere LRM launchers achieve their superior range by firing at a ballistic launch angle, making them less accurate at close range. Clan LRM launchers do not suffer from this effect.

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Happy New Years Kong

You know the game is fucked when Caustic is one of the most balanced maps in the game.

>tfw want to play the spiciest cat but always do better with pulsecrow despite lacking masc and jjs
i hate this

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>stop playing less than a month after clan release
>almost 4 years later not a single new weapon has been released
>however 23 grab deal packages have been shat out by the PIG in the meantime

give me one (1) good reason to play this shit game again.

>>164329294
>almost 4 years later not a single new weapon has been released
>B-but the timeline!
>B-but we don't know how to edit an xml file!
>B-but it would be unbalanced and the golds would get mad!

What are some cool weapons that would be released if we jumped ahead about 10 or 20 years? I only know about MRMs, Streak LRMs, X-Pulse Lasers, Heavy Lasers and Rotary ACs.

>>164329868
ATMs, PPC variants (snub nosed, capacitor PPCs), ER lasers/UACs/Streaks/LBs for all IS weapons, HAGs (Hyper Assault Gauss, basically metal storm, almost like RACs or LBXs but with more projectiles), High Velocity ACs, Machinegun Arrays and Heavy MGs, Gauss Variants (Heavy, Light, Improved Heavy), Enhanced LRMs for IS, Streak LRMs for Clans, Thunderbolt Missiles.

Might be a couple of other things in there too, certainly a few different ammo types for weapons.

what are some mechs with really shit/narrow cockpit views that i should avoid? stuff worse than the cent/atlas

>>164331541
your mom, lol

>>164331541
Nothing is really worse than the Atlas, but in terms of cockpits that are particularly stifling, the Vindicator and Kodiak come to mind. The Shadowhawk also lacks peripheral vision but it's not really that bad.

>>164329868
There's enough weapons as it is. More weapons wouldn't add anything interesting to the game.

>>164331541
Kodiak and commando are both cramped. Prison locust is most obscured in general.

>>164331541
I recall the dire wolf having a fucking horrible cockpit from when I tried the trial mech.

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>680+ LPL optimal

>>164332539
I agree, but I would like more ammo types. I'd love for autocannons to have smoke rounds.

>>164332539
>More weapons wouldn't add anything interesting to the game.
>MRMs, plasma rifle/cannon, snub-nose ppc and capacitors, RACs, hyper assault gauss rifles, ATMs, AP gauss, etc
>not interesting
Pgi pls

>>164333587
Thanks for proving my point. None of those weapons are interesting and the last thing we need is powercreep.

>>164333587
Snub PPCs, Bombast Lasers and RACs are extremely interesting, let alone Thunder Bolts and Long Toms

>>164333587
Weapons are relatively balanced now, adding more missiles and ppcs would just make it harder to do that.

>>164333754
>B-but it would be unbalanced and the golds would get mad!

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>>164333825
>Long Toms

Literally no fun allowed and retarded.

>>164333825
>wanting uncle toms long dong back in the game

>>164329868

There's barely anything cool that close in the timeline. I want a fucking mechwarrior game set during the 3130s. Fuck the real man's single heatsink era. Fuck the clan invasion.

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>>164333825
>Snub PPCs
What if we change the range profile and make a third type of ppc? It would be SO interesting.

>Thunder Bolts
Instead of 20 missiles doing 1 damage each, we'll have 1 missile do 20 damage. That's so different and quirky and unique!

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>>164331541

>he doesn't want a (P)rison variant.

>>164334541

What if we violate canon and make the snubs work really well up close, through being what the fluff text says, and not following a meme weapon entry that's not even relevant in MWO anyway.

>look at any piggy modded gun.
>compare to CBT.

Clothes. Why were they so anal about changing shit for at least 3 years again?

>>164334104
>>164334251
>retards still think piggy's fucking naval autocannon 50 that weights like 2000 tons and does 500 mech scale damage or something is a longtom

>>164329868
You might as well go TRO: Third Age and use grazers.

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>>164334251

For some strange reason, I always figured Uncle Tom would equip his long dong as a Megatron styled cosmetic upgrade on assault robots and heavies, then they'd just sit still, mark, and fire the fucking thing, and that's all there'd be to it.

I should have known piggy would have implemented tactical nukes straight out of CoD. Balance is, after all, decided by feels, how Russ' wife's son is doing at the game, what games are popular with the kids these days.

>>164334251
Thank god they got rid of them and we'll never have to see one again.

>>164335201
It just means you needed to have a dedicated 4 man premade to spam scout missions.

I loved Long Toms, I used them all the time. They're really balanced due to the travel time in a jump-sniper meta.

>>164334929
>retards still think that arty strikes and airstrikes are what we need more of

>>164334541
>Instead of 20 missiles doing 1 damage each, we'll have 1 missile do 20 damage. That's so different and quirky and unique!

lol

do people really want a weapon that would be destroyed by a single AMS?

>>164336401
>AMS triggers
>Long Tom fags instantly legged by their own splash
l e l, i think i'd be okay with this now

>>164336401
>implying they wouldn't have increased health

>>164335789
You really have no idea what you're talking about. You fags who wouldn't want new weapons probably even don't know what any of them do.

>>164336401
>The Thunderbolt Missile was developed for the arenas of Solaris. Unlike most missile systems, the Thunderbolt was a single missile that smashed into its target. Though it was effective in the arenas, it didn't see widespread use in the field because the single missile was very vulnerable to Anti-Missile Systems.

That is in fact the tradeoff for pinpoint damage.

>>164336675
>I don't want to play mechwarrior and ever fight anyone, I just want to sit in the back and launch my arty until the big mean red doritos disappear! It's real skill!

It's ok scrub, I'm sure you're a real threat at your local gamestore.

>>164337034
Good job, keep proving you're retarded.

>tfw you see a D-DC LRM boat in the wild

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>164337034
>He's never taken on 10x the BV with nothing more than field arty and TAG hoverplatforms and won.

https://youtu.be/JlXXXohXP1I

>>164339671
>tfw you see a gauss+er larges atlas in the wild

8x uac2 or 8x lbx2 on ultraviolet if i want to seek crits?

>>164343790
>clan assault
>team does all the work
>steal some kills
>exciting pug match

>>164350165
>orion
>assault
what a retard

>>164350414
I too can rack up massive damage when my teammates sponge all the damage and flank so targets aren't even looking at me

>>164350984
I'm not sure what you're referring to, all I did is click on his video and knew he wasn't in an assault

>>164349548
UACs are much, much better than LB2s.

>>164346317
For real tho, what else do you do with an Atlas-K?
other than throw it in the river that is

Anyone else here hate Polar Highland LRM shitters? Especially the ones that announce "LRM boat here, give me locks for love from above" at the start of the round.

>>164351254
>>164349548
LB2's have a cooldown module and make 33% less heat. So if you're going for full on minigun that's your bet if you don't want to worry about jamming.
UAC's are probably better though. Less fun, but better

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Aaaand it's gone.

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Maybe they forgot to contact Microsoft to renew the license for 2017.

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>>164355068
Fucking was about to log on too
Thanks PGI

>>164355339
literally didn't pay their power bill

>>164355373
pmat

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>>164355696
>pmat
????
Keep me posted family

>>164355902
pida minut ajan tasalla

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Kyp guis

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>>164356161
>sniper trying to brawl
>brawler trying to snipe

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>>164355339

Excellent. Fantastic. Classic pig. Either they pulled shit because they're making 'something better' to host MW5 on, or they legit have no that even gives a fuck their shit has been down for over half of 2017.

>>164356161
I got bingo, 4th column down

bamp

is mwo p2w?

>>164355480
what

Why don't MWO robots explode like huge nukes?

>>164362668
because stackpoling in mwo would be fucking retarded

>>164333368
>Faction Play
>Everyone drops Dire Wolves.
>DWF-UV
>8 UAC/2s
>Smoke

Everyone lags out and you win.

>>164362668

Because stackpoling is a meme, and has been a meme for so long they've had page upon page in the CBT rules explaining factually, and from a lore point, why a fusion reactor don't go nuclear.

>>164362668
Contrary to hollywood memes, fusion reactors implode and fizzle out instead of explode with a catastrophic effect.

That isn't to say mechs don't explode like huge nukes under the right conditions, but for a mech to explode like a tactical warhead it would have to mean someone managed to cook an LRM boats missile reserves in a disastrous chain reaction where ever single one of those missiles goes off simultaneously.

SERVERS ARE STILL DOWN WHATTAFUK

>>164365383
fuck science, we're talking about bt/mw where fusion bottle crits have been a thing since forever.

you're just an assramming light who doesn't want to nuke yourself when you run up the asshole of an assault so it can't move and or turn as you unload your spl spam into it's asshole until it dies

>>164367726
yeah. so much for playing some stompy rowbutts

fucking piggy. burning my premium time here unable to play robutts

Is there a way to get the loyalty Summoner torso omnipod, without spending real money?

I want to pepsi but the PIG won't let me.

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>>164367836

>it's an "assblasted lurmboating assault cries about lights" episode

I never get tired of these, keep going. Tell us more about your fusion bottles.

>>164368230

They will absolutely give everyone some free time over this. It's still a winter holiday for many people, and they know its fucked.

just kidding, ur fukt kiddo

>>164369821

>its a fuckhead defends his noskillz buttramming as 'totally fine and not retarded in any way' response
if you were actually using your superioir speed and mobility to do shit, that's cool. buttrammers don't. they stand inside an larger mechs butt hole so if it tries to turn and or move it just glitch resets outdside the lights hitbox, accomplishing the supreme tactical skill of getting stuck in the lights hitbox whilst the light 'driver' thinks he's so skilled shooting the defenceless mech in its butthole.

exploiting piggies shitty coding for collisions to deny hvy's / assaults the ability to move at all is NOT a skill, you fuckstain

>>164369878
yea, pig gives 0 shits about any customers

>>164369719
You are not able to get them anymore.

The 2016 loyalty program ended months ago.

Now you're going to have to wait, possibly for half a year, until they release them first for MC and then for C-bills.

>>164371092
lmao

>>164371092

Thank you, I'm sporting a half chub right now.

I feel sorry for you though, so let me explain how to defend against a light 'assramming' you in an assault.

This is coming from someone with 100 hours in a locust 1e, and 40 hours in an ACH.

Assuming that you are with your team, which you absolutely should be in an assault, this means that what you need to do is simply survive long enough to receive support.

If the light is ON your ass, then you move FORWARD and TURN while TORSO TWISTING IN THE DIRECTION OF YOUR TURN to present your front RT or LT and arms only. Continue to turn until the light is forced to reposition.

If the light is SLIGHTLY BEHIND you, then you move in a BACKWARDS TURN, while TORSO TWISTING IN THE DIRECTION OF YOUR TURN, to present your sides or arms only.

If there is a wall, or terrain nearby that cannot be climbed, then you PUT YOUR BACK TO IT and then TORSO TWIST IN THE DIRECTION OF THE LIGHT, so they are forced to reposition.

In all cases, you can defend long enough to be rescued. If you want to increases your chances further, then drop a UAV and call out for assistance on voice coms.

Let me be very clear, if you

>cannot move backwards

It is because you are being blocked on purpose. This is not an exploit. Your 100 ton assault mech cannot just step over a light mech, no matter how much you want to.

The buggy result of you repeatedly trying to ram the light behind you is not the intention of the tactic, and the light mech also suffers from the warping rubber band effect.

An attentive assault player can almost always defend against a single light, provided they react swiftly to the first surprise strike, and provided that they are not out of position.

The above depends on having team support, which is critical to the effectiveness of assault mechs in all cases, not just against lights.

If you find that you are often 'left behind', or struggle with positioning, then you should not be playing an assault mech.

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PIGGY PIGGY
GIB ME NAO
MY UNLOVED TASTE OF
SALTED the phoenix hawk is the best medium in the game

I just downloaded, installed/patched MWLL but I can't get past the gamespy account bs, which is recently supposed to have been patched or something? The instructions in the installer mentioned using a made-up email for the account, so that's what I did but I can't figure out why it's not working. Anyone know what I'm supposed to do?

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>>164371402

>clearly superior omnipods available only if you paid for something
>limited time only

Oh piggy....

bamp
Whats a good mech you would like to see put into the game
Hard mode: No Timberwolf/Madcat II

>>164374031
Bandersnatch, Lao Hu

>>164374031
For Inner Sphere:

>Bandersnatch (75t)
>Nightstar (95t)
>Anvil (60t)
>Wasp & Valkyrie (20t & 20t)
>Thunder Hawk (100 tonner with triple gauss yo)
>Flashman (75t)
>Cerberus (95t)

For Clans:

>Blood Asp (though personally I'd prefer the Kingfisher) (90t)
>Fire Moth (20t)
>Nova Cat (70t)
>Black Python (75t)

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>>164374483
my bandito hombre.

>>164371942
EXCEPT NONE of this works when the light just keeps assramming you.

and pugs are retards and refuse to have mediums or lights hunt the lights behind a team so they cannot buttfug the hvy's or ass's repeatedly target spotted command wheel-ing the lights and voice comms their position in does nothing. potatoes are so averse to playing as a team they patently refuse to do anything helpful ever.

looks like the server's been rez'd

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Decided to watch Sean because I had nothing else to do this early

Where did the tonnage go?

>>164375481

It does work, and these simple strategies are used successfully all day long by good assault players. Of course good assault players also know how to position themselves to discourage lights from attacking them in the first place.

Basically, you are a scrub. You blame game design instead of adapting tactics from players who have already learned how to mitigate a threat. The knowledge of how to counter this behavior exists, but you refuse to use it, because to do so would mean that you have to admit that you were ever doing something wrong.

As long as you continue to resist the idea that it is you who must improve, rather than the design of the game, you will never get good. Your biggest enemy is not assramming lights. It is your own ego and stubbornness.

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The light mech Russ!!! Hand it over!

>>164375945
STD engine, probably.

>>164376559
except i use the 'tactics' you say and it still doesn't work. rubberband collision detecting mean the assault or hvy gets stuck unable to move even if they move away and turn because the light tard with his 0 skill buttram tactic merely continues to ram the butt and kill the heavier mech before it can complete the turn enough to present the arm or front side torso armour to bear. since the light will merely move with the heavier mech to continue ramming the butt

>>164376559
moreover, your 'tactics' are simple mech piloting basics which everyone can understand and use. so why you consider them a 'tactic' i do not know.

> "but but you is a scrub and need to gitgudderer HUEHUEHUE "

I'm saying you stupid dickface, that at the moment lights get away with buttram far too often due to shitty collision code so fusion bottle crits need to happen in MWO at least somewhat like in bt and mw. since it's been a thing since FOREVER and is one of the major reasons why you don't buttram

>>164375945

The real question is where is he putting the ammo?

>>164376743
The metamechs Adam

>>164379874
>still arguing for stackpoling

what a retard

>>164379874
I have never once seen this happen and you're a fucking idiot. Well played lights don't "buttram" you, they just stay behind slower, unable to turn mechs using their superior agility.

When collisions go crazy (which doesn't happen nearly so much anymore with the escort mode patch since they changed the collision code) it resulted in both mechs going crazy, and usually the light warped through the other mech and out the other side.

Take a video of you doing this to someone or I'm going to have to write you off as a huge fucking retard who whines like they're getting paid to do it.

>>164374031
Annihilator
Bane

>>164382096
bane?

>decide to dust off my LRM30 AWS, match is really short so only get to toss a few LRMs before death
>"GET FUCKED LERMER"
Ok, lurms arent too popular apparently...lets see...maybe Ill try my surmbomb timby for shiggles
>go around corner and gangbanged 4v1, cored instantly
>"RETARD CLANNER KEK"

stay tuned for the next episode of autism online,
>STOP LIKING THINGS I DONT LIKE

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>>164382329
>Uh, you don't get to bring bondsmen
>They're not my bondsmen
>He wasn't alone, don't worry, no dropdeck tonnage for them
>Get them onboard I'll hyperpulse it in
>First one to talk gets to stay on my dropship
>WHO PAID YOU TO TAKE RASALHAGUE
>Tell me about Bane, why does he boat the autocannons
>A lot of loyalty for a memelord
>Or perhaps they're wondering why you would run into melee, before opening fire with lurms

>You're a big assault mech
>ALB-4U

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>>164382856
Right into the meme folder friendo

>>164382329
Saying its name does not give you power over him.

>>164382951
Oh this is the TMNT video with the turtles ejaculating ranch on a pizza. Thanks Bill.

>bane
>10x Ultra Autocannon/2s
>4x Machine Guns
>only 4 tons of ammo for UAC2s

>>164383045
Who?

>>164383130
You can pull the trigger 30 times for a whopping 600 damage not including crits.

RIP Vass

>>164383130
>drop autocannons to 6
>put in 8 more tons of AC2 ammo
>Fill the rest of the ballistic slots with memeguns and ammo for em
>Enjoy shooting forever, both far and close

>>164386605
>not dropping the machineguns and ammo for ac ammo to release the memes

>>164386605
Why 6? It comfortably fits 8. Even if you upgrade it with ES and FF you still have plenty of criticals left. In fact 10 UAC/2s and 11 tons of ammo will fit with all those upgrades, though you will be keeping pace with only Dire Poofs. Also may be a bit spookily toasty with only 13 heat sinks.

>>164372129
>MWLL
It's all in the OP.

https://www.reddit.com/r/MWLL/wiki/guides/troubleshooting

So what are the best video settings so I can run MWO with the best combination of graphical fidelity + eye candy?

>>164390301
yes

Team is only shooting VIP
Enemy team is shooting our asses
gg

>>164390301
I play everything on high except post processing and shading which is low.

>>164392945
Love it when fucktards go balls out to kill the VIP when they should just kill the enemy team first then farm the VIP instead, so they can pad their shitty stats

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>>164379874

Stay dumb an stay bad, scrub. It's no skin off my back.

but it is armor off of yours lmao