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Yu-Gi-Oh! General #2403

REAL NIGGAH'S CARD GAME Edition

Last Thread: >>164081342

● YGOPro is an automated simulator.
YGOPro (Windows): http://www.mediafire.com/file/baj95caex5si0n3/ygopro-1.033.A-Percy.exe
YGOPro (Mac): Shit outta luck
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Useful Links:
Current Official Rulebook, last updated 6/27/15:
http://www.yugioh-card.com/en/rulebook/EN_SDSE_Rulebook.pdf
Wiki with a wealth of information for the players:
http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Main_Page
Yu-Gi-Oh! stock market:
http://yugiohprices.com/
OCG decklists:
http://blog.livedoor.jp/yugioh_tpr/
https://ocg.xpg.jp/v/deck/event.html
TCG decklists:
http://yugiohtopdecks.com/decklists
TCG/OCG news sites:
https://ygorganization.com/
http://blog.livedoor.jp/maxut/
Hypergeometric Probability Calculator:
http://yugioh.party/
Official /dng/ ruling test:
https://testmoz.com/466984

Upcoming Sets:
●OCG: Maximum Crisis (January 14th)
●OCG: Tyranno's Rage (February 25th)
●OCG: Code of Duelist (April 15th)

●TCG: Pendulum Domination (January 20th)
●TCG: Raging Tempest (February 10th)

Before asking to be spoonfed, try the following:
● READ THE OP
● Read carefully the cards
● Lurk and read the archives
● Google your deck before you post it here. If your deck is/was competitive it will probably have topped an event, see the provided links above
● Most games have single rounds or a best of three match; matches are encouraged as they teach you to make use of your side deck for tournament play
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best girl
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Rest of Maximum Crisis leaked when?
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>>164158760
I want to watch her synchro-masturbate
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It's hilarious how people stack the crazy trap card on the left side and you're playing this amazing deck that renders it useless
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Xth for 5k unaffected by everything and 5k burns Tyrant Neptune memes
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nth for shitters biggest fear
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Is everybody ready for the YEAR OF THE ROOSTER?
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>>164159210
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>>164158410
I can't help but try and see what I can get away with in those rooms though. Those hosts are just always so quick to anger.

There's actually a dude at my locals who's that way. He spergs on everyone who beats him that he doesn't play "New Yugioh" and that he doesn't care about banned cards, he'll play them if he wants to. His deck is a horrible amalgamation of unsleeved random one ofs, vanillas included (we're talking Silverfang here,) and banned shit, with sleeves on only his favorite cards. He's so awful that the owner let's him enter and play it as is because why not he can't win. He actually explained in detail what half his deck did to me and that his battered copy of Silverfang had a duel spirit inside. He also wears a Naruto headband every week.
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Any Fun meme turbo decks out there?
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>>164159210
>zodiac beasts have both a cuck and a bull
>the cuck can even prepare the bull to overlay with the waifus like tigress
really makes you think
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>>164158995
I feel obligated to tell you at this point that this isn't your blog.
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>>164159463
>He's so awful that the owner let's him enter and play it as is because why not he can't win.
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>>164159463
Its good to know you described yourself :^)
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>>164159502
I think the cuck's a girl, if that thing on the lower right are shoes.
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>>164159463
That image
>Flute of summoning Dragon
>With Slifer
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>>164159463
>treating a fucking 1st ed Flute of Summoning Dragon and Masked Beast like that
>2 (TWO) Slifers
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>>164159463
Poor Slifer getting bend in half
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>>164159763
Is she the badass scarfed waifu we needed but never got?
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>>164159763
Bull just emasculates him publicly
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>>164159463
>The Flute of Summoning Dragon
>Ultra Rare
Don't think so bub, kids like these using fake cards were the lowest of low. Fake god cards are one thing, but fake cards from the fucking starter deck? Fuck off
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>>164158887

Blue eyes shows that synchro is not synonymous with masturbation.
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>>164160265
Yeah and it would be better if I could watch her masturbate
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>>164159925
Nig, are you implying you can't NTR lesbians?
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I've been playing yugioh since now about, 6 months or so. On checkmate servers I have around ~60% winrate, playing all kinds of decks.
>tfw never managed to get top8 at locals because I never had a finetuned deck

Started out with buying 2 times monarch structure deck, moved on to HEROs afterwards and been playing those pretty much since then. From my own version I moved onto a version with treatoad, it's still not really capable of facing meta decks since I need 3 times desires for it to be better.

Really happy that I got into the game again after "playing" it as kid, just slightly annoyed that some good cards you that have a good impact in the game are so expensive. One day i'll top my locals!!!
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>>164161158
Dont forget the 3 Dimensional Barriers.
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>>164161158
Check out Duel links and Duel Generation.
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Cutting Neptune meme to 40 cards. Considering running 3 neptune so I don't have to be forced to search it and maybe hopefully increase the chances of opening it + intstant
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>>164161581
it looks like you currently are running 3 neptune
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>>164161581
fug, forgot the invoker, but you know what I mean okay

>>164161683
Yeah I'm going to try 3 neptune mained instead of just 1. See if it's more consistent or not. Even running 2 double summons.
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>>164161734
>See if it's more consistent or not
>add 3 of a piece that is searcheable by feral imp

are you retarded or something? at best it will brick your hand
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>>164161734
Neptune is searchable by King of the Feral Imps.
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>>164161896
which means you can make utopia or something good instead from your rat masturbation
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We're not about to have another episode are we?
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>>164161870
>>164161896
Yes I'm aware Neptune is searchable, but having 3 means I don't have to use the 2 rats for king of the feral imps, and 3 neptune also makes it that the entire deck doesn't die if Neptune gets negated. It also opens up options of using the gates to make Neptune a crystal wing or a direct attacking (boarbow) 4500 beater.

I'll see. I'll mess around with 3 maindecked Neptune for a bit and if it's not more consistent I'll cut it back down to 1.
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I like Bujins
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>>164161581
The problem isn't with neptune as rat makes him easy to search. The problem is instant fusion because you need more gimmicky cards to search it, this being either both scales - having only one in hand with no servant sucks or predaplants.

It may be worth running allure for extra draw power to add consistency so you could cut the extra neptunes or double summons and memestart for it or cut the brilliant engine. I'm biased toward cutting the brilliant engine as I have almost a supernatural ability to open garnet pretty much every game.
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>>164162478
I like Heroes
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>>164162687
A real shame that contrast sucks massive dick
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>>164162478
Do you own a helmet?
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>>164162783
For my motorcycle
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>>164162721
I've ran Miracle Fusion in Masked Heroes for laughs on occasion, for him and Absolute Zero
There are worse techs in the world
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>>164162478
>>164162687
I like Lackluster Soldier
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>>164162914
Same, until you brick with it and youre better off without it
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What did they mean by this
I used to like flare wingman
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>>164163016
>>164162687
>>164162478
I like Dark Magician.
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>>164163409
dead
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>>164162687
At least post Bubbleman as a good representative of the Heroes, anon
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>>164163016
>was once one of the most powerful boss monsters in the game
>is now useless because of the shift from OTKs to control/stun.
Was this a healthy change?
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>>164162478
>>164162687
>>164163016
>>164163623
I like Lunalight
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I wish they hadnt majorly fucked up Duel Arena.
It had so many nice concepts.
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>>164163776
I'm not a furry, but
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What do you do when you're dueling someone IRL and he looks like he's going to beat you up because he's so salty/mad? Do you cancel the duel?
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>>164162783
Is this supposed to be an insult?
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>>164163637
Flare Wingman is good but Shining Flare Wingman is definitely better
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>>164163880
You win the duel.
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>>164163854
Bro, you know you want the Big thick fat lion glutes.
Hell, Leo dancer should be thicker if anything
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>>164163880
Win and say "well that was easy".
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>>164162478
>>164162687
>>164163016
>>164163623
>>164163776
I like Ancient Gears
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>>164163880
No, you win and put a smug face.
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>>164163880
This >>164164219
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>>164164216
boom da yada
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>>164164216
Same. Do you have a good Ancient Gear decklist that you are willing to share?
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>>164164564
will you accept a decklist that isn't from that anon?
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>>164163880

start explaining why ur tech is so gud even tho he didnt ask
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post ancient gear secret tech
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>>164164823
magical hats
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>>164164696
Yes, any good ancient gear decklist will be fine.

>>164164823
This
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>tfw attack with Maxx C for game
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gettin kinda bored with d/d/d and synchro

what should i try next?

im thinkin something with some stun
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>>164164901
What if it's not actually good?
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>>164164956
>when a friend missed winning on the spot because he forgot he had level eaters in his graveyard

Now everytime hes calculating to go for game people tell him to not forget about level eaters.
>use norden and have only maxx c in graveyard
>got called stupid for that
>at the end he soaked one attack and gave me enough time to turn a game

Maxx c is a real bro
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>>164164564
Here's mine. It's not very consistent but I had fun dueling with this.
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>>164165034
Zood dudes
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I know
>nurse burn
but holy shit what a close game
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>>164164216
>>164163776
>>164163623
>>164163016
>>164162687
I like synchron
kill me pls
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>>164158573
>older bro always listens to juiceman
>browsing /vg/
>see juiceman as OP image

I love this this place
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>>164162478
I like Koa'ki Meiru.
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>>164165490

:(
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>>164165470
Will your degenerate ass stop posting here no one fucking cares about your Nurse Burn or Barrier Stun
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>>164165583

i thought the exact same thing lol
>"is that oj da juicemang?"
>begin browsing
sheeeeit
AYE OKAY
AYE AYE
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>>164162478
I like Spell Counters.
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>>164162321
That's stupid.
What other card could you possibly turn those 2 Rats into? If it's not anything that can make the LL Fusion, it literally doesn't matter.

Just play Into the Void.
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>>164165631
Urnight is one cool looking son of a bitch.
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Claim your archetype/waifu, go
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>>164166163
all of them
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>>164162478
I like Aleister and his fusions.
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>>164165741
Why /dng/ is so autistic when someone talk about Nurse Burn?
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>>164165930
Brother.
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>>164166163
WINDA
I
N
D
A
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>>164166163
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>>164166163
Forever mine until KoA bans tenki, that's when im trashing this archtype
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>>164166031
Looks great in Ulti. Can't wait for Hiruko, and Rat if it's not a $200+ playset, so I can finally play it again at locals and not instalose.
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>>164166239
>/dng/
>questioning autism
hey fella you must be new here, welcome!
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>>164166239
Well first of all the deck is degenerate ass cancer.

Second, there's a recurring anon here that finds it enjoyable to blogpost about said cancer and Barrier Statues. If you play a floodgate or FTK deck you just need to shut the fuck up and have some shame because that shit isn't YGO it's solitaire.
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>>164165631
>tfw no koa'ki meiru deck, they just get used in rock stun
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Is Mare Mare + Yang Zing a good deck for Blazar?
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So what's this neptune meme now?
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>>164166549
SOON
I'll post the RAT version in a second.
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>>164166527
YGO is all about denying the opponent.

Every deck worth playing in this era is about denying the opponent unless you go full genocidal banlist or reset the game
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>>164166163
I love Windwitches.
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>>164166549
You can make one, it just won't be very good.
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>>164162478
I like Horus
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>>164166653
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>>164166636
instant fusion the new Ruri
tribute for Tyrant Neptune

enjoy your 6k Vennominaga that burns for 5k every turn
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>>164166163
I don't even run Magileine anymore, she's just too slow but man I love purple hair
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>>164165097
>>164165312
Thanks for the starting point. I'll see what I can do with these.
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>>164166234
I now have an excuse for posting this.
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>>164166163
Empowered, Dragodies
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>>164166770
actually make that Ultimate Falcon, it's a little closer with its already existing burn
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>>164166663
Listen, there's a difference between "denying" the opponent and flat out fucking not letting them play the game.

The former is something like Metalfoes against anything. Balanced, fun deck with no bullshit.

The latter is playing something like Nurse Burn and FTKing while your opponent didn't get a turn or playing Gravekeeper's and Royal Tributing someone's entire hand then Card of Demising into 5 traps and setting Spy.

What sounds better?
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>>164166770

This deck is a ftk. Straight up.

It's similar to the omega hand loop where you have practically no chance of actually winning but they still give you a turn to flounder before dealing the death blow.

Only since this deck use zoodiacs instead of junk doppel its infinitely better at its job
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>>164166163
Shaddolls and the one and only waifu.
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I ordered 2 The White Stones of Ancients ultra
rare nm and they sent me 3.

But they sent me 2 ultra rare dsow instead of the 3 in that order.

Should I just forget about it because the extra wsoa is worth double the price of dsow?
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>>164166770
How silly.

But now I'm considering instant fusion -> ter -> eat a monster -> neptune -> eat another one
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>>164166163

>>164166653
>>164166752
I mean still it's only using six of them, better than nothing I suppose (and probably better than trying a more pure variant).
Give us an xyz or something Konami, actually an xyz that can detach to stop your guys blowing up might be pretty good thinking about it

>>164166339
>claims waifu
>says he'll ditch it when tenki is banned
Disgusting
If they ban tenki I'll be pissed though, Lunalights are cool
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>>164167118
TER targets so good luck
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>>164166668

Too bad they have the worst wincon of all the girls and to add insult to injury is the only one that cripples your turn by locking you into wind monsters.
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>>164167162
It's not like I'm basing a deck off of that, it's just another idea.
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>>164167114
Yeah just keep quiet, they might send you a message saying that made a mistake on their end and want to trade cards back. Just get dsow from another place
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>>164166163
Shadow mist
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>>164167124
The XYZ just needs to help you swarm more.
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>>164167124
How come the Charmers are so insanely popular and Konami can't figure out what the fuck to do with them or simply doesn't do shit with them?
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>there's finally a use for The Tyrant Neptune
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>>164167367
When will we get more fossil?
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>>164167004
Neither, and your stance on Metalfoes sounds a bit biased.
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>>164167081
With Phantom of Chaos you can burn for 2000 more.
Now if you could use that Neptune to summon Gustav Max and fucking END IT ALL
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>>164167538
is pic related a part of this Fossil thing?
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I want to see a Yugioh where these hilarious boss monsters are more easily summonable and there's a clash of the titans in every meta duel, like a 8300 atk Neptune Burning for 5000 Turn 1, and then getting ran over by a 9000 atk Power Bond Chaos Giant Turn 2
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>>164167367
>thinking this is the first time Neptune was used
How out of the loop are you? He was used with Ultimate Falcon instead
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>>164167367
Creature Swap. ;^)
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>>164165741
Why are you so mad?
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>>164167615
Could you potentially use the Gates to get out a fusion/synchro Level 10 for it?
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>>164167620
Yeah. if the archtype exist it may focus on lockdown.
Well, I don't remember other fossil cards in the anime.
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>>164159862
Nigga those cards are faker than Pamela Anderson's tits. The reflection is off and the font is so glaringly wrong it hurts.
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>>164166901
Great pic, Anon.
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>>164167870
cannot be used as xyz material
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What's a deck that doesn't do the same shit every match?
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>>164168209
Pendulum decks like Metalfoes
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>>164168209
Dracoslayer Zarc Magicians

You can either kill them with outright beatdown, Zarc nuke, XYZ spam, Draco fusion/sychro, slowly with the Pendagraph trap and Violet, etc
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>>164167124
I didn't claimed a waifu, i claimed the entire archtype (which fortunely, are waifus)
But i have a horrible legacy when it comes to waifu picking
Harpies?
They were forever shit and their support only made them lowtier petdeck, woo Rank 7 toolbox and yet the only shit im going to summon are Dragoballsacc and Big eye
Fortune Ladies?
Rank10ygo mentioned them in a video, that alone just shows you what i think about these stupid bitches
And now Lunalights
The only redeeming fact tenki is at 3, so is perfume and k.chick which means i have 9 cards that allow me to bring shit from the deck to the hand/field/graveyard and that right now on ygopro (ocg), they do not need shameless selftouching masturbation to spam boss monsters, i can just use at least ONE (1) single special summon on the entire turn to make a Leo Dancer and give her +1100 atk thanks to butterfly and tenki and call it a fucking day because thanks to the chick, leo + whatever shit is there on my field can attack and the opponent can't use shit on battle phase, and since no one unironically runs threatening roar these days, lunalight beatdowns are quite easy, if allowed though (xddimensionalbarrierxdvanityxdmstwolfxd). Its only a matter of time until my deck dies.
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>>164167538
When we get all of Midori Hibiki and Reggie MacKenzie's Fairy support.
>no Dark Lightning
>no Prison Flame
>no Dark Mist
>no Darklord Descends
>no Fallen Angel In Darkness
>no Angel's Tear
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Can someone counter why pic related isn't a widely used card if your deck isn't FTK or OTK oriented and more on Stun/Lockdown?

You give your opponent a card but you get one yourself. If you're not at an extreme disadvantage, it's basically free. It also prevents you from taking damage for the whole next turn.
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>>164167314
Unpossessed was a huge help, but it doesn't help someone of the main issues; for one, the actual Charmers are still fucking useless. And as a result of that, the Familiar - Possessed never get their piercing effect.
They should just retrain the base Charmers, and maybe make them more easily searchable and maybe an incentive to actually use all the Attributes. We also need more cards like Jigabyte.

Honestly, Konami is sitting on a goldmine of untapped kawaiibux and they just choose not to dig.
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>>164168209
No good ones.
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>>164168340
Nigga we got Darklord Descent recently

It's weird why they expanded the archtype owned by literally who, I guess fallen angels are cool.
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>>164166163
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>>164166163
Til I die
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>>164168467
It's a -1 that does nothing to your deck's overall gameplan, unless you're playing Gishki FTK (which is dead).
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>>164168713
>literally who
>three time world champion Koyo Hibiki's sister
>a professor at Duel Academy
>"literally who"
gimme that neck
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>>164168486
>A bigger incentive to summon Familiar-Possesseds via their effects
>A Shaddoll Core esque card to assist with that
>A better way to trigger the effects of Charmers
I could also see attribute fusions working for them somehow, cause ideally the deck would be running all / most attributes or have a way to manipulate attributes, and being able to fuse with a stolen montser would be cool. Maybe "a charmer + one monster stolen from your opponent"
Those are my ideas
A searcher for the Charmers would definitely be good, I imagine the rest of the Jigabyte cards will come
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>>164168947
then why do people insist putting pic related in every deck?
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>>164169268
becaues it makes your deck a 39 card deck
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>>164167674

>I want to see a Yugioh
Well you came to the right motherfucking place my nigger
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http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm30332645
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>Blazar is WIND
>you can someway use him in Gustos or Pilica to speed up the synchro masturbation

This will be fun.
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>>164169317
and One Day of Peace doesn't make it 38?
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How good is duel links?
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>>164169449
Your opponent also draws a card
You can't deal any kind of damage, effectivly giving him a turn (which also gives him 1 more card) to fuck you up
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>>164169438

>still no WIND synchro tuner
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Holy shit, this is the third time I run into a fucker who makes giga nigga Neptune on T1. I thought it was just dumb memes, but I guess it's actually consistent

How do you fight that shit, barring Kaijus?
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>>164169686
so the people that run pic related are also batshit fucking retarded?
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>>164169845
It has what, minimum 6000 ATK?
Crystal Wing, Moon Meme Shield or HONESTO
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>>164169907
Unless they use Dark Law, yes.
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>>164169907
You can darkbribe a warning/strike or a raigeki
Dark Law synergy
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>>164169845
Lion Heart + Barrel Behind the Door
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>>164169845

Pray you open your kaijiu.
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>>164168209
Black Lusty Dolls
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>>164169975
Crystal Wing ban when?
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>>164170513
r u srs?

shame on u
and anyone who says level eater too
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>>164170513

It doesn't even negate s/t.

Vortex and toad should both get banned before it.
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>>164170102

What's that one old archetype that makes your opponent take all the battle damage you would take?
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Lion girls or something.
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>>164170827
Gustos
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>>164170664
LE is more than justifiably banned.
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>>164170827
Gustos?
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Is SPYRAL good? I've seen this shit on YGOPro and the deck is so resilient it's crazy.

But fuck TCG exclusives.
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>>164166163
Traptrix.
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>>164170978
>Is SPYRAL good?
>TCG exclusive

What do you think?
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>>164170890
>>164170931

Das it mane. I'll give them a try if the "hexproof beaters on t1" bullshit continues
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>>164170664
>>164170916

Remember what people were saying when Lavalval Chain got banned?

>HE A GOOD BOY HE DINDU NUFFIN

Only retards think that Level Eater shouldn't be banned just like retards thought that the Lavalval hit wasn't justified
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>>164171036
Kaiju and Kozmo
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>>164170916

Fuck no.

If the ftk neptune combo is allowed to exist I want my quintuple quasar wombo combos.
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>>164171131
>decks that don't rely on syncrho are actually good

Who could have thought
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>>164171215
Synchro was a mistake.
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>>164171126

Right but people have been trying to fuck with level eater for years
You think this is gonna stop it?
You think they would ban crystal?

What synchro deck managed to fuck ur fotm meme deck recently?
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>>164171296
Synchro is just shit unless they figure something out to make it better.

Like, whats next? One card synchro summons without using a normalsummon?
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>>164171172
There's a big, 5+ minute difference between those two, as well as the matter if one of those being worthless garbage.
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>>164171296
>game is on its knees again due to R4
>blame synchro
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>>164171036
Depends on how badly the R&D wants to prove something.

Spyrals and Subterrors are really harmless so they aren't going super crazy.

>>164171120
If only Gusto were a stable deck. Stall is hard to keep up + missed timing. Gusto can only "win" if its facing a beater and opens nuts or is piloted by that one cherry picker who memed his way through the ZeXal era of the now defunct DN.
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Could you gain infinite lifepoints if you summoned this, Red-eyes flare metal dragon, and Beelze, then creature swapped Red Eyes Flare Metal Dragon to your opponents side and then inflicted damage to yourself with whatever effect?
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>>164171445
Xyz exist because of synchroshit, so if you consider that a bad thing, then yes, synchros are still at fault.
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>>164171428
It was a mistake that cannot be fixed.

No one enjoys facing Synchro players and their twenty minute masturbation sessions.

And that's all the mechanic is, a huge fucking jerkoff fiesta.
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Reminder that EmEm is the strongest deck in the history of the game

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm30328668
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>>164171428

Those sort or exist.

Konami is just being retarded by forcing lock after crippling lock on them whilst true cancer like zoodiac triangle gets nothing.
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>>164171126
>Hand Loop Deck
>Ban a synchro staple and not the thing that Handloops with 5 effects including a quick effect, which you only limit

Omega was literally the only problem
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>>164171653
No it isn't.
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>>164171489
Yes.
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>>164171589
>Try to make the balanced version of synchros
>fuck up so badly you get xyz
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>>164171630

Because junk doppel is the only synchro deck ever.

Emem did the same with rank 4s but you don't define the entire mechanic by that.
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>>164171630
It's not the way they have to be, to be fair.

>>164171725
Konami doesn't like cards that make one players turn go on for several minutes.
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>playing true kangz
>make dewloren with mare mare and recycle dragonic diagram
>bounce draius back to the hand and trigger his effect
I'M HAVING FUN
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>>164171856
Synchros were just that horrible of a mistake.
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>>164171630
I feel like Synchro should be a decent alternative to set something up but it being locked that you NEED a tuner makes it very difficult. IMO the best way synchro worked was in the blue eyes deck.
>you don't really lose on your blue-eyes in the graveyard
>you can negate graveyard activations
>can't special more than 1 at the time
>3000 def
>can tag out and bring the azure-eye that can special a blue eyes from the grave

literally the best you can ask for. No need for endless mastrubation sessions, just a squick synchro to build a presence
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At least with synchro it's ONE long turn and not multiple

Turn chess timers when?


Also it's not hard to make a non-broken but not retardedly gimped synchro deck

>take crystron and remove the machine clause

Normal summonable l4's etc with tuners you can ss from the hand or revive coupled with this clause: "This card cannot be used as XYZ material"

then just add a little bit of floating and some actual powerful but specific synchros
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>>164171489
I am sure you could make your entire life points become a million if you happen to have that bitch and you're against Flint lock loop FTK
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>>164170853
>ywn have Leo facesit on you
>ywn eat Leo out while she squeezes your head in between her massive thighs in pleasure

Just kill me now.
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How would one make meta synchroshit at this point? Zarcgicians ft. wind witches?
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>>164172238
You know those monsterr thighs would crush your skull painfully, right?
Why do you think she has 3500 ATK?
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>>164172141
>Turn chess timers when?
Fucking soon I hope.
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>>164171932
Okay, you could start by putting the abomination that makes people urinate out of their foreheads in rage by merely seeing.

There's literally no justification for Level Eater existing. Any time you see this shit go into the Graveyard I guarantee you will sit there and think "is he/she done yet" and have your expectations for that defied every. single. time.
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>>164172345
It would be worth it. She could crush a watermelon with those things.
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>>164172238
Oppai DMG is better and cuter!!
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>>164172343
Wind Witches would just hurt them with their restrictions. Magicians can Synchroshit just fine on their own thanks to Tune Magician and White Wing. Outside of the Level 7s and 8s, there's not much (generic) worth making anyway.
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>>164172141
I think removing the restriction of only being able to activate one of their effects per turn would be better for Crystrons
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>cards with literally their own zone for just them because theyre special
>cards that stack on other cards like ammunition for effects n stuff because
>these cards special summon each other based on level

yea sure synchro is the retarded one
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>>164172379
rat first.

If you want synchro to become less degenerate you need to give it better things to do like some synchro deck that can actually fucking run traps

>literally just tellars with a no xyz clause and 1 of them is a tuner

why is this so fucking hard komoney
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>>164172460
DMG is old and busted in every sense.
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>>164172460
>used goods
>will never be noticed by senpai
>the gal that's everyone's pal
>even MORE of a whore than Tour Guide
>no lewd fang
>no thick thighs
>doesn't have 3500 ATK
>isn't a proud warrior lady

Please.
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>>164172583
>>164172628
DMG is old fashioned and overrated but she's still pretty good to this day.

Not that there's not better but have some respect for the original waifu.
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>>164172583
and she was censored unlike Leo Dancer
Lunalight Leo Dancer: 1
Dork Magicial Guurrl: 0
If the deck wasn't shit (read:not meta/tier 1), this bitch could be popular on the porn charts.
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>>164172521
the mechanic was literally designed as deck specific masturbation party so there's no deviating from this.

I can't think of any Synchro oriented deck in my life that isn't solitaire. Remember pic related? Holy shit.
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its the end of the year anons
lets make it good
duel4nudes
winner receives
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Rate my patented Demise Memeterrors™
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Instant Fusion banned when?
>(searchable) one card fusion summon
>enabler of multiple shit like Norden, Neptune, and Xyz
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>>164172776
stop arguing with this komoney shill
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>>164172460
I've been looking for that artist, thanks
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>>164172776
>so there's no deviating from this.
Says who?
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Wait actually I just remembered.

There is ONE Synchro deck that isn't spam masturbation/solitaire.

Psy-Frames. They're pretty original/unique.
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>>164172776
>I can't think of any Synchro oriented deck in my life that isn't solitaire.
Speedroids (non-meme builds like Quasar) are generally pretty good about doing their plays in a decent amount of time. They don't really Synchro climb like most other decks, they just level adjust to do what they need.

Crystrons also count since the worst they'll do is a double Synchro to get to Phoenixion.
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>>164172776

>Looks at wind ups.

>Yeah that's totally a synchro specific problem.
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>>164172896
i like the thicc but those tits are too much
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>>164172827
should go w/ the og for better luck
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>>164172993
And they're just as boring
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How do I build WyrmSpiralSerpent.dek?
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>>164172850
*Norden ban when?
>there I fixed it
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>>164173026
>he doesn't know about 3 crystal wing turbo
>>164172993
does maliplague zombies/ hero synchro count?
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>>164173081
>too much
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>>164173169
Let's free Super Poly since Norden would be banned anyway.
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>>164172896
You're welcome. Wish I would know a legit source of YGO porn. I have no idea which tags go for boorus, and I can't into jap so I can't be arsed for Pixiv
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>>164173130
Well someone asked if Synchros could do anything other than masturbate and Psy-Frames seldom summon with traps aplenty and function around hand effects.

Pretty good. Don't know why they can't think of something as distinguishable as that when XYZs are so fucking diverse by comparison.
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>>164173290
pixiv has had an English interface option for a while now
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>>164173290
Pixiv isn't difficult, you literally can just grab a monster's nip name from the wiki and throw it in the search bar.
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Honestly we just need a good EARTH synchro deck.
It's Naturia Beast's time to shine.
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>>164173220
Zombie Sync isn't as long-winded but it gets pretty masturbatory.
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>>164173152
With Paleo.
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>>164173469
They could have given X-Sabers good support.
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>>164173689
:^)
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>>164173229
tits shouldn't be bigger than the head anon
>>164173290
literally just go to the wiki and copy the japanese name into pixiv's search
>>164173326
Blackwing
Cardians might be solitaire-y but they're fairly unique because sac turbo
Lightsworn can do synchro well
t.g. was good for a while
x-sabers
scraps?
YZ really don't into masturbation well without memetechs, at least pre the latest guy
BEWD i guess
graydles are neat, i think they'd be good if the game wasn't anti-target turbo
Buster Blader but its shit
windwitches seem okay even if they're a one trick pony since that's not masturbation
Shaddolls kinda
mermail kinda


I guess just excuse me for preferring to have more variety in the deck as a whole than L4s turning into rank 4's which go back and forth simplifying literally everything into 'who can castel or lightning'
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>>164173469
Or just more WIND Synchro support.
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Enough waifus, post cute husbandos
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>>164173457
>>164173387
>>164173927
Damn, could have figured that myself. I guess it works for twitter too then, right? Since people tag there thier stuff too
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>>164173469
Natty Beast was a staple part of the EMEm opening though.
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>>164173469
I want Dark Spellcaster synchro because there's so much potential for that and it's completely overlooked

>arcanite, tempest magician, librarian
>Magician's hands
>not tied down like Dark Magician
>Wonder Wand and Allure
>Chaos Sorcerer, Norito
>Trapeze, Zarc...

Literally all you actually need is tuners that can special summon themselves without taking up a normal summon. It's a chore to revive things (where a lot of masturbation comes from) and having simple plays that work means you don't have to resort to the longwinded bullshit
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I want you knows to know someone earlier in this tread said level eater was comparable to lavalval chain.

that's how stupid some of our posters are.
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>>164173814
>was very early in show
>doesnt come over until way late
fucking tewart and his ddd hate
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Man super quantums got BTFO'd.

Their entire gimmick was going all in on an invincible boss and I've rarely ever seen a great magnus made without huge minuses.

The immunity is limited and a single Kaijiu/Lightning kills magnus off.

Now neptune burn comes in, tosses around a 8300 body, unlimited immunity, and 5000 burn every turn. And unlike magnus you won't be going all in and can easily recover for more plays after being Kaijiu'd.
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Nep decks are such fucking memes. I can't wait till they get random tops in OCG land.
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>>164174303
sort of their destiny being the innovators of many things
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>>164174080
yeah but twitter is literal shit for porn
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>>164174504
Not getting it
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>>164174080
>this is the kind of people spoonfeeding produces
But seriously though, I was gonna post about how I couldn't understand how you couldn't have thought of that by yourself. I mean copy-pasting or trying out related stuff to see if it links to the one you want is like internet common sense.

For example, for the booru problem, you could have searched for "dark_magician_girl" because you sure as hell know that someone will post a picture of her, then (if it's properly tagged) you could have just clicked the "yuu-gi-ou" tag to see all the ygo images.
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>>164174504
>you have to discard a card to use a layer to xyz summon

Who thought that was a good idea? It literally makes the deck way more shitty to play than it should be
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>>164174467

It's all memes until you don't open with a Kaijiu and lose on the spot.
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>>164174254
ahahaha
I had to try and not reply
like it was difficult
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LL fusion is also a LV1 monster so it's easy as shit to bring back from the grave.
What the fuck were they thinking ot making it a Nomi I don't know but I like meme decks so I am glad.
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>>164169907
I side Dark Bribe in PSY-Frames because the deck is incredibly vulnerable to Titty Twisters.

But unless you're playing those or Masked HEROs, yes you're retarded for running that.
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Cut Neptune back to 1. Took out 1 of each gate and added 3 LAO and that PK L4, but I might cut that and go back to 3 gates for the instant fusion search as well as pendulum potential.

Also, Heart-Earth Neptune that you get out with gate infinity can be used as a way to out your opponent's Neptune since Neptune will have 6k atk minimum and instant fusion also eats up 1k
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>>164175187
Always a good sign if a deck needs something like that
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>>164175397
If you're calling me retarded for still playing PSY-Frames, you're right. I just love the little fuckers
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>>164174254
And in the last thread there were posts saying the % chance of drawing a 1-of is the same as drawing a 3-of, and not understanding the difference between something needing to be in the deck versus working from the deck or hand.

What brought all the failures here today?
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How is dueling nexus?
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Is pic related an undeniably shit card or do I just have a bad impression of it? You might surprise the Chain Burn player once, but the instant you use it they will start chaining immediately and all you have is this dead card you can't even use.
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>>164175825
It's not very good since they can just activate cards during the standby phase or chain it at CL3
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>>164175825
It was fine until it got powercrept by Twin Twist and Cosmic Cyclone. Used a lot in HAT meta.
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>>164175825
It was used by OTK decks when MST was still at 1/2.
I remember that being a staple in OCG Hieratics.
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anybody got any ideas for this? best i've got is otking with starve venom and scarlight or making crystal wing + the wind witch fusion
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>>164176264
busta brader fusion+synchro lock
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>>164176264
Metalfoes
Fluffals
D/D/D/D/D/D
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>>164176750
>Metalfoes
>when they get sent to the ED
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>when your opp attacks your Cardian Lightflare with Lightening
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what cards do you want printed but you are not even sure why?
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>>164176808
>not fusing with fusions
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>playing the Neptune meme deck against the AI for shits
>used trickclown to get King of Feral Imps and IF for Independant Nightingale
>6000 LP left but got Nep on board along with an Invoker I left in attack
>burn for 5000
>JUSTICE reveals Gorz, burns me back 5000
>2nd turn runs over Invoker and beats me
out fucking skilled by a toaster
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>make turn 1 NepNep while under opp's Maxx C
>turn 2, he was playing DDD
>he didn't make Crystal Wing
Why?
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>>164176814
>when your opponent attacks your Wicked Avatar with Lightning
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Rate my card.
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>>164177267
How about you give support to gusto and its a card that reads as follows
"For the rest of this duel, Gusto monsters do not lose activation timing"
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>>164177136

Maybe he's not running crystal.
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>>164176264
I feel like it would brick in Blue-Eyes, but when you have a combination of two vanillas or alternatives, you could make twin burst and the Xyz you probably wanted

I'm thinking some kind of zombie goodstuff.dek like shiranui could make dragonegro nethersoul during their usual synchro solitaire
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>>164177136

probly wasnt 100% aware of the meme yet
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>complain about synchro masturbation
>being ok with xyz masturbation that gives a free rank 4 and quick effect pop off one card
Oh the irony!
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>>164177382
You can't undo dumb mechanics. You can only crap free card advantage everywhere.
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>>164177508
Being not as long winded makes bad design fair. or something.
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>>164177240
> when your opponent attacks your chaos giant with the lightning
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>>164177382
I was thinking about add this new themed "E-Teleport" and a Gusto Rampengu with the same effect of Pilica, but it can summon only non-Tuner WIND or Gusto monsters from the graveyard.
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>>164177786
>when your opponent attacks your BLS with the lightning
RATE was a good set for giving the middle finger to that guy
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>>164177435
Who wouldn't run Crystal if you can summon it?

>>164177694
It makes it tolerable and not shit.
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>>164177508
>attention whore and constantly brag about how good you are
>don't even play rated
Oh the hypocrisy!
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>>164177267
>one card Crystal Wing
>doesn't mesh well with Gusto floating playstyle
>Gusto doesn't even have Accel Synchro monster to abuse the effect with
0/10
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>>164177875
>when your opponent attacks you with Lightning
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>>164177923
I don't run Crystal in mine because I only use YGOPRO to practice using my irl deck and get those combos memorised, and I don't have a crystal wing yet.
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>>164177508
if i beat you will you finally post nudes?
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>>164177267

Take the WIND effect off so I can use Phoenixion with it.
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>>164172460
sauce or artist pls
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>>164178081
konno_tohiro
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Newest draft
R8
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>>164178196
>DM
It's shit.
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What's with this fucking endless stream of shitty ass fucking fusion monsters HERO has in their library? It literally seems to have no fucking limit and they're almost all garbage.
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>>164177990
>when your opponent attacks your Maiden with Eyes of Blue with the lightning
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>>164178284
classic
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I want to play against CuteGirl.
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>>164178235
Unnecessary.
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The next synchro gimick is going to be synchroing with counters.
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>>164178263
Not sure if bait or just stupid
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>Tragoedia
>Gorz
>Chaos Sorcerer
>Doomcal
These used to be good cards, what happened?
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>>164178539
Stay away from checkmate then.
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>>164178897
That's pretty cool. Tuners that gain counters under unique conditions and then can solo synchro into the synchro of their choice. Synchros that require specialized non-Tuners wouldn't be available but it's still a cool idea.
7.5/10
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Hosting, if anyone wants to come beat me.
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>>164179032
Powercreept, it's a completely normal thing.
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>>164178284
>>164178401
>when your opponent attacks your Zarc with the Lightning
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>>164179032
Too slow and reliant on the opponent.
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>>164175261
Why arent you running at least 1 viper zodiac for the search?
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>>164178401
Does this even happen anymore?
I'm pretty sure Sage has replaced her out of the deck.
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>>164175261
how the hell is its on-destruction with-xyz material effect going to help neptune?
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>>164179612
Because as the usual TCG shitter, he has to get that Upstart there no matter what
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>>164179780
>This card cannot be destroyed by battle, also your opponent takes any battle damage you would have taken from battles involving this card.
>just tribute it so Nep has 0 atk, crash into their guy who probably has 8300 because of LL + Feral Imps

rea/dng/ does it again
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>>164179969
>Also, Heart-Earth Neptune that you get out with gate infinity can be used as a way to out your opponent's Neptune since Neptune will have 6k atk minimum and instant fusion also eats up 1k

I see

this is still a pretty weird sentence
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>>164179067
Heh konami should hire me.
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>>164158573
>OJ Da Juiceman avi

Okay general, you got me interested.
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>>164159210
It is still the year of the monkey and there isnt a zodiac monkey.
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>>164179108
bruh.
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>theres no way to search out cards like King's Synchro and De-Synchro
Get on it, Konami.
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>>164178043
Sure. But you can't beat me.
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>>164180543
I just want to play.
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>>164180681
Meanwhile Pendulums have Duelist Advent, Xyz have Generation force and Fusion has Supreme King Gate Zero, Darling Cobra, Synchro Fusionist, Chimera Rafflesia and Sabatiel
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>>164181118
As it should be.
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>>164181331
shut the fuck up already
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Come on. Anyone? I just want to lose.
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What's your favorite Synchro monster, /dng/?
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>>164181431
Cry more.
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>>164181451
I'll duel you with my horrible decks
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>>164181118
Why Konami hates Synchro now?

I remind the time we laugh about how bad Xyz was because it needs to detach materials to activate effects and how bad fusion was because it needs polymerization.
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>>164181564
I'll still lose. My decks are worse.
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>>164181451
Are you up for a shadow duel?
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>>164181626
They hate that Japan lost WW2 to Whites
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>>164181626
Because it's shit.
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>>164181652
I don't do Shadow Duels anymore, sorry.
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>>164181739
Alright, you're cool.
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>>164181739
wich game is you?
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>>164181689
Then why aren't normals the best?
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Refresh the page, YOU is back.
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>>164181842
Thanks :)
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>>164181824
Is there more than one?
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>>164181836
They like being blacked
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>>164181917
yep
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>>164181965
I only see one.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvNDuwyIOIw
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>>164182075
maybe my filters are wrong
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>>164182170
Filter this.
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>>164182170
Make sure you have locked rooms on, and it'll be in matches.
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>>164181953
I'm sure.
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>>164182246
You don't bother me tranny.
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>tfw you get raigeki'd but topdeck the exact card you need to make a comeback
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>>164182321
That was it. i just need the pass lol
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>>164182536
Should be vidya
That's /dng/ standard for their locked rooms
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>>164182536
It's the usual pass.
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>>164182341
Tranny?
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Seriously, can The Lightning defeat Blazar or its just a meme?
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>>164182667
blazar just negates its summon
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>>164182667
Blazar either negates the summon or has already negated some shit earlier and isn't even around.

So it's more like Blazar and Lightning set up a fight, but either right before the fight, Blazar shanks Lightning with a knife, or never shows up for the appointed fight.
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I'm tired of playing imaginary format. Where do I go to play TCG?
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>>164183213
Locals
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>>164179764
I still use her and the field spell for a bit of fun in BE so it isn't the sterile OCG build.
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GG getter.
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Why Blazar so shit?
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>>164183428
I just got lucky. Extremely luck.
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>>164183540
Now it makes me wonder how many salty players are going to complain about neptune and the fusion.
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>>164179032
>Tragoedia
You had to eat damage to summon a level changer sliferATK monster
>Gorz
You needed a FULL FUCKING CLEAR FIELD, NOTHING AT ALL to summon it, though against the rising meme deck of Tyrant "Ruri's bull" Neptune its quite good to bounce back the burn
>Chaos Sorcerer
Only good because BLS and CED were banned, by the time BLS came back, he was forgotten
>Doomcal
Who?
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>>164183932
>Ruri's bull
?
Also, Doomcalibur Knight.
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>>164183932
>Who?
I'm not sure if you're trying to impress the point of the card being old and forgotten, or if you actually don't know which card I'm talking about
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>>164184091
Tyrant Neptune tributing Nightingale to burn for 5k and keep a 5k to 8.3k attack Towers
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>>164184479
independent ruri has 1k atk standard so it's 6k to 8.3k
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What cards let a monster attack multiple times per battle step? I only know about the Twin Swords equip but I'm sure there's more obscure shit

Basically, I want to make Lion Heart and ram it into as many bullshit monsters as possible
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>>164184153
Ohh, i remember that fucker. More like doomcaliber fisher because the moment his bait hooked he just pick his fish and leaves forever. Fucking card so good but
>You MUST negate the effect
If that shit could be special summoned, it could be relevant.

And i apologize, i just haven't seen Doomcaliber since Dueling Network pre-xyz era
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>>164184639
>Lion Heart
We're talking about the motherfucking Lion Heart as in that R1 xyz yubel clone on steroids?
Because you might as well run Stoic challenge, Twins Swords DO help actually and that's it, i can't really think of an unrestricted-by-archtypes card that can give a monster more attacks
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>>164184639
BESERKER SOUL
https://youtu.be/-9NBvsmQ2Ik
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>gold rare
>ghost rare
>mosaic rare
FUCK these. Can't even tell what the fuck I'm looking at. Even secret rare obscures the shit out of card pics depending on what the monster is. If it's a fucking Xyz fucking forget it, spaceships and guns and rays of light and swords everywhere, I can barely tell what a Xyz monster is when I'm looking at it without any holo, nevermind secret rare or something.
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>>164183932
>Tyrant "Ruri's bull" Neptune
Funnily enough Ruri.dek has one of the easiest ways to beat it.
>Number C54 fucking never
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>>164184639
Kaleidoscorp
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>>164185478
Ruri is so best that Ruri is even better than Ruri
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Hosting again.
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>>164166163
shes mine! all mine!!!!!!!
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Xyz ruined the game. Prove me wrong.

>Fusion
requires specific cards, a deck will usually be based around Fusion if it has any Fusion in the Extra
>Ritual
see Fusion
>Synchro
similar to fusion in that you need certain cards (tuners) in order to utilize synchro
>Xyz
just fling them in any deck as long as you have some monsters that are the same level as each other, oh and I forgot to mention they're broken pieces of shit

Fuck fucking Xyz monsters. What a fucking blight on this game. Over centralizing horse crap.

Not to mention how much they fuck with the theme of your deck.

Oh, you're using Mermails? Cool! Have a fucking spacestation with a huge eyeball and a flying dragon mech hellicarrier

fuck Xyz
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>>164185452
Xyz tend to have pretty shit designs that don't make a lot of sense, all the more reason the classic art was great.

Parallel rare was the best rare. Too bad we don't get that anymore.
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>>164185836
>the classic art was great
yee
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>>164185980
you aint seen nothing
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>>164186268
I was never a fan of Kaiser, particularly because of how shit he was in Falsebound Kingdom.
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>>164185776
Ok i'll take the bait
>They're broken pieces of shit

For one, the only thing i can agree here is that Xyz are quite broken, specially the Rank 4 toolbox.
Just with two lv4 monsters, you can access to THE LIGHTNING BABY, and if that wasn't enough, we have Castel the noscoping musketer or whatever R4nk degeneracy.
Xyz overall are a cool thing but let's be honest, all of the hate (your hate) will probably come off the degenerate shit R4nk has (had, see: Exction)
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Which Jaden was the better Jaden?

Manga Jaden (Koyo's Elemental Heros), Anime Jaden (Elemental Heros), or Anime pt.2 Jaden (Neo Spacians)?
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>>164186470
No, my hate comes from trying to play decks and being forced to use Xyz in order to stay competitive. It's not like when Synchro or Pendulum came out if you weren't using these you were fucked. 99.99999% of decks run Xyz because they're so easy to use and summon you'd be a fool not to.
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>>164185776
oh yeah, look how fucking thematic this piece of shit is
the fusion of two woman somehow ends up on a male rocker
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>>164186603
Manga. Anime Jaden has one of the worst decks ever.
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>>164186635
What are you trying to say here?
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>>164186635
They turned into the guitar you idiot
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>>164186707
that even his most retarded "argument" is fucking flawed as fusions were fucking nonsense from the beginning and still are

How the fuck do a magician and various skeletons combine to form a dragon?
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How hard am I gonna brick if I leave Galaxy-Eyes in? Besides Blue-Eyes it's my favorite monster, so I'd just like to have it. I know I'd be better off with a second Veiler or Dragon Spirit, but Galaxy-Eyes is searchable by Melody, so I don't know.

I guess what I want to know is, am I gonna brick hard and fuck myself over leaving Galaxy-Eyes in, or is it not that big of a deal either way?
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>>164186929
I get what you're saying. And regarding that bit, you're completely right and we're in agreement.

The only difference is, you don't have to run those dumb fucking Fusions if you don't want to. If you're not running any Fusion in your deck, you're not running any Fusion.

But virtually ANY deck automatically has Xyz. That is my primary complaint.
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>>164186948
There's like eight things wrong with this deck. The lone galaxy eyes is the least of your problems.
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>>164186929
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DM-UnV9TEzY
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>>164187108
Are you talking about the lack of twin twisters? Or the assorted Kaiju?
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>>164187153
Keep going, you have six more problems to spot!
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>>164186948
>Clouscastle
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>>164187250
>twin twisters
I like to use Silver's Cry + Dragon Spirit of White to clear the field. It slightly lowers how many MTs I can wipe from the field, but it gives me a 2500 beatstick I can Xyz summon with in exchange.

The assorted Kaijus is partly for flavor and partly because I don't want to run 2x Thunder Kings and 2x Gamaciels. I want all the Kaiju to be weaker than 3000 (except Dogoran who is tied) in case I need to simply remove an opponent's monster with their Tributing effect. I don't want to give them a 3300 Thunder King.

>>164187357
Cloudcastle is for recycling Silvers. I have that in over another Spirit or Silver so I can utilize the Kaiju for Synchro if I need to.

Pls halp, what are the other problems? Maxx "C"? I've been testing this fucker all night.
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>>164187357
>phoneposting
kill you are self
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>>164187476
No you definitely should not include the best hand trap in the game. Instead you should run left arm offering to turbo into those kaiju slumbers and add some magic cylinders for that surprise factor and for when you don't have any available moves.
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>>164187587
I found that this deck has enough mill to neglect Maxx "C"

I do detect that sarcasm though.

What do you think mate? What would you change?

I could easily see replacing Galaxy-Eyes with a Dragon Spirit or Veiler, and MAYBE the Kaiju with 2x Gamaciels and 2x Thunder Kings, and MAYBE get rid of Silver's Cry for Twin Twister, but other than that I'm not sure. And even then, I'm not sure those changes I just mentioned would even change THAT much.
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>>164187851
>mill
>Blue-eyes
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>>164187945
*************search
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>>164185776
Tuners ruined the game. If Synchro were generic Level+Level, then the game would have been slower. Seriously, just take a look at Tuners, majority of them are weak monsters whose only effect is to summon themselves or other monsters.

Synchro needing specific monsters on the field (tuner+non-tuner) made game design go in the direction of "special summon a shitton, every turn main is just an engine, the extra's where it's at". If Tuners didn't exst, and synchro was more generic or xyz was made first, they could have made game design instead go in the direction of "stronger more resilient main deck monster, surviving the turn ready to be used as material."

This is just theorycrafting, knowing Konami they would have still chosen the easy (Special Summon) way anyway.
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>>164188087
I see you.

YGO is too fast these days. It's become a different game. I liked the slow simmer game of yore.
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>>164188087
The thing is with Synchro is while it was a step in a bad direction, it wasn't completely cancerous in itself. You still had to run a certain kind of deck to run Synchro. It's not like you can throw tuners in willy nilly and pump out savage Synchro monsters, while Xyz you can.
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>>164188059
You do not want kaiju in BE except gameciel in the side. You have a fundamental misunderstanding of BE's weakness to being a brick house sim and that cards with single with little to no synergy or use like enterblathnir or cloudcastle in your specific build do not fucking belong.
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>>164188508
>little to no synergy or use like enterblathnir or cloudcastle

>Silver in the grave
>summon castle
>revive Silver
>Silver pops
>Rank-9 Xyz
>instant banish
It's not that bad mate. What would be your ideal Blue-Eyes build then?
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>>164188482
>You still had to run a certain kind of deck to run Synchro
This was also cancerous you know. Pre-Synchro era decks didn't have Tuners and trying to insert the weaker but generic Tuners only hurt their consistency, thus they were unable to use Synchros as effectively as new decks making them go out of favor.

I don't really have a problem with the concept of Synchro, especially since they made Levels more relevant, but i just don't like how they need tuners and tuners in general.
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>>164188743
>>revive Silver
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>>164188743
Dude why the fuck do you event WANT Enterblackface anymore?
Just run VFD.

And are you sure you mean Silver and not Spirit?
Like, ARE YOU SURE?
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>>164188743
>>revive Silver
>>Silver pops
What the fuck? Azure-eyes doesn't pop unless you mean pops as in his effect goes off protecting all the non-existing dragons on the field. All that work for a banish when that same synchro combo could've been a crystal wing? Why don't you use the BE deck that won worlds if you want a base
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>>164188759
Completely disagre having super generic shit like xyz is the true cancer. Tuners actually encourages smart deck building.Pre-synchro era decks where still topping even after one and a half year of the mechanic being live.Now compare that to Xyz.
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>>164189445
Generic XYZ has never been a viable deck, generic synchro however was obnoxious and prevalent to get hit and even top a few times
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>>164189659
I'm not talking about the ED monsters I'm talking about the summoning method xyz is too generic.Also most generic synchros served the same function generic xyz serve today.
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>>164188984
Spirit doesn't work if you bring it out from the grave.

>>164188897
Yeah, revive Silver and blanket your Blue-Eyes lad.

>>164189012
I looked at all the top 8s, or many of them I should say since there's a million of them. I definitely do not want to copy those exact builds, that's fucking gay as fuck. I mean, I could totally live without Cloudcastle, but.
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Why isn't this used that often? Isn't it like an unlimited slightly worse Rageki?
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>>164190035
because raigeki already sucks penis and why would u ever use this shit over dark hole
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>>164190035
discard 1 for an effect that's worse than raigeki

raigeki isn't even that good since everything is hexproof or floats
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>>164189989
>I could totally live without Cloudcastle, but.
I don't think you're understanding
>Spirit doesn't work if you bring it out from the grave.
Okay seriously, just leave
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>>164189989
>being able to revive Silver at all
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>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>going first
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>>164190083
To destroy your opponents monsters without targeting and to not destroy your monsters and send something like Necro Slime to the graveyard
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Any help? I can't tell if i should be running the galaxy soldier meme or not. I finally cut goliath/arkbrave, but I'm still not satisfied with the deck's consistency.
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>>164166163
Hands off best girl + archetype
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>>164190208
>>164190210
Are you guys fucking baiting me?

>Blue-Eyes Spirit Dragon
>can only pop it's eff if it's Synchro summoned

>Azure-Eyes Silver Dragon
>can most certainly be revived from the grave (REDMD, Cloudcaste, Call of the Haunted, etc.)

>read nigga read
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>>164181483
Hastur, probably.
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>>164190328
He obviously meant its negation effect since you just want to XYZ into blathnir and you don't have any worthwhile floats anyway. And you don't say "pop an effect." Fucking play the game god damn
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>>164190328
>being able to revive Silver
This HAS to be bait. Nobody can be that shit at the game, not even /dng/
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Fluffal is still a great petdeck. Fusion master race all the way.
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>>164190494
My original post was this, is any of that stuff crippling? I just like Kaijus and Blue-Eyes and want to use them in a deck. I don't think it's crippling, but I wanted some outside input.

>>164190506
Fuck off, retard. You don't know what you're talking about.
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>>164190574
>play fluffals for fun with friends irl
>friend starts side decking shadow-imprisoning mirror and non-fusion area
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>>164190689
YOU CAN NOT SUMMON AZURE-EYES SILVER DRAGON FROM THE GRAVEYARD UNLESS IT WAS PROPERLY SYNCHRO SUMMONED, WHICH YOU WOULD ONLY EVER DO IF YOU WERE RETARDED.
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>>164190689
Crippling what exactly? Crippling to the hamfisted kaiju engine, r9 engine, BE engine, or BE draw engine? Yes to all, shut it down
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>>164190786
>UNLESS IT WAS PROPERLY SYNCHRO SUMMONED
NO SHIT FUCKING RETARD. WHAT THE FUCK ARE WE EVEN ARGUING ABOUT. AND HOW THE FUCK ELSE WOULD YOU EVEN GET IT OUT IF NOT BY SYNCHRO SUMMON? SPIRIT? FUCKING ELIMINATE THE MIDDLE MAN WHY BRING OUT SPIRIT IF YOU'RE JUST GOING TO SAC IT OFF FOR SILVER?

>>164190834
I definitely want to keep the hamfisted Kaiju engine. the R9 engine I can totally do without, I just wanted to give Kaijus something to do other than deleting an opponent's monster or Xyz summoning. Other than that I like this build. The Kaiju go well with Blue-Eyes imo, especially for Xyz (and nuking the field with Slumber).
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>>164190973
>WHY BRING OUT SPIRIT IF YOU'RE JUST GOING TO SAC IT OFF FOR SILVER
I'm sure you can come up with an answer for this on your own desu
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>>164190973
>WHY BRING OUT SPIRIT IF YOU'RE JUST GOING TO SAC IT OFF FOR SILVER?
Holy fucking shit.
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Why people don't side A Legendary Ocean against Toadally Meme decks yet?
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>>164190973
>I just wanted to give Kaijus something to do other than deleting an opponent's monster or Xyz summoning
That's literally all they do. It is literally their built-in function. If you want to play what you think is fun, asking this general what is crippling to your fun is retarded.

>Kaiju go well with Blue-Eyes imo
Christ
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>>164190689
Generally it's difficult to properly synchro summon Silver because it requires vanilla BE as a material. Even then its usually better to just go into Spirit.

My experience is that the BE engine is so bricky that adding kaijus/goliath/rank 9(?) might raise your ceiling, but ultimately make the deck even more bricky.
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DID YOU KNOW:
There are no zombie normal monsters over level 4?
There are no level 9 or 11 pendulum monsters?
That the greatest difference between original ATK and original DEF is 5000?
That there are more Spirit monsters than there are Union monsters?
That there are fewer Dragon-type monsters than there are either Warrior or Machine-type?
That there are overwhelmingly more level 4 monsters than there are any other level?
That there are more Toons than Synchro Tuners?
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>>164167927
Fossil's used a bunch of Fusion monsters.

Currently the only ones released are Tusker and Pachy.
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>>164191081
have an artsy one
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>tf your blue-eyes build is worse than that guy build because mine runs a felgrand and arkbraves
>but feels better because you are not a retarded
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>>164191354
>That there are overwhelmingly more level 4 monsters than there are any other level?
What is the difference between L4 and the next most represented level?
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>>164191518
>you are not a retarded
Hate to break it to you, pal...
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>>164191081
Dude. Is this what you're talking about?
>it's difficult to properly synchro summon Silver because it requires vanilla BE as a material
Yeah. I get it dude.

>>164191141
I was just looking for that medium of competitive/fun. Aren't we all?

>>164191179
Well, we'll see what happens.

>>164191518
Uncalled for.
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>>164191537
3 has 904
4 has 1792
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>>164191597
not enough until level 4 has 1808
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>>164191518
My BE build is from back when people kept going on about Irritum turbo. I really need to update that shit.
>>164191595
>I get it dude.
You really, really don't Do the world's gene pool a favour and neck yourself. Here, have a handy guide.
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>>164191595
>I was just looking for that medium of competitive/fun. Aren't we all?
Thing is no one can gauge what you consider fun so when you come here asking how to make your shitty deck more "fun" with basic questions like "should I add maxx c" you come off as an idiot.
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>>164190231
Should I take out kaijus for galaxy soldier?
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>>164191806
What ever you want man
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>>164191806
One Blue-Eyes player used Galaxy Soldier in the finals at worlds. The other Blue-Eyes player won worlds.
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>>164191776
>come here asking how to make your shitty deck more "fun"
It's actually, "how can I make my fun deck the best it can be." And this is what I've got. I need one more for my extra.

And somewhere along the line, someone pointed out problems with the deck, which is fine, that's exactly what I wanted, so a discussion began.

>>164191753
Wanna duel, faggot? I'm honestly not even sure what you're mad about at this point.
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>>164191564
im smart enough to not post the build

>>164191753
shit man, im still using irritum/goliath in BE, I drop arkbrave, goliath and ancient stone with dark matter and pray I have gospel in grave so the only thing that can fuck me is kaijuing the goliath
I love how goliath still fucks some decks
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>>164192037
>not post the build
Why not? Scared of the angry autists?
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>>164192037
I just run vanity's
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On the bright side, at least this guy who's doing kind of a poor job with Blue-Eyes isn't also posting worthless youtube stuff about the scrub mentality while being completely oblivious to who the scrub is in the situation

Really though I'm still reeling in confusion from that complete failure of life who lost his marbles last thread. How can "people" like that remember to breathe?
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>>164192352
Actually I'm still not seeing any tit twisters so let's bump that up to a "mostly" poor job with Blue-Eyes
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>>164192352
Something like that is actually part of the reason I really don't want to make a yugitube channel, despite my friend really wanting to. I'm not nearly good enough at the game to give any advice on it at all.
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>>164192453
I kind of don't think Twister is 100% necessary with Dragon Spirit of White recycling.
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>>164192552
spirit's banish resolves in a separate chain so you can't stuff continuous card activations with it, and you still plus like mad from discarding in BE
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>>164192552
what if your opponent sets 2 cards
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>First that retard that thinks that adding an extra Gem-Knight to the Brilliant Fusion is good when the possibility of opening double Garnet is almost as big as opening Garnet + Brilliant
>Now this retard with his shitty blue-eyes deck
what the fuck is up with /dng/ today
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>>164192681
>this retard with his shitty blue-eyes deck
Fuck you I just wanted to talk about cards and see what others thought. I don't even remember doing anything THAT retarded, other than trying to tweak builds, but there isn't one universally used Blue-Eyes deck, there are variants.
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>>164192352
anon, the one that posted the video about the scrub mentality was the guy that called the guy running double Garnet an idiot. Unless you think running double Garnet in a Brilliant engine is good YGO
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>>164192681
Do we have a variation of shunposting for people who say 1 is approximately 3? I know you're doing this on purpose
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>>164192352
>the failure of life is still here
wew fucking lad now's a good time to ask it how it remembers to breathe
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>>164192834
do we have a shunposting meme for people that think stupid shit like this? I'm sure that you know more than the guys building topping builds that universally agree in using only 1 Garnet, but I guess random anon on a mongolian knitting board is better than everyone topping

Here, have a reminder of how stupid this general is
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>>164192750
>there isn't one universally used Blue-Eyes deck
I hope you don't think running 2-3 shrine or desires counts as a variant. Because let's face it, Shunsuke's BE deck is pretty much the standard winning formula with people tweaking one or two ratios. People running shit like galaxy's or R9 shit never top.
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>>164192834
6, not 3. Opening an instant fusion means you'll search brifu with Darling Cobra.

But 6 is also easier to draw than 1, yes.
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>>164192987
>People running shit like galaxy's or R9 shit never top.
Granted.
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>>164192967
yeah the topping tyrant neptune turbo builds lmao keep going
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>>164193115
It's not your fault.
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Threadly reminder that this general track record includes:
>Thinking Amorphage Goliath was a legit tech in Blue-Eyes
>Thinking Rulers were a shit deck
>Thinking Blue-Eyes wouldn't end up being meta
>Thinking Pot of Desires is shit
>Thinking that ABC wasn't going to dominate TCG at release because "MUH METALFOES"
>Thinking that Subterrors were going to be better than Spyrals
and other stupid shit

This general is also guilty of crying "LOOOLL, I'M JUST MEMEING IT'S JUST A FUN DECK XD" as this guy does >>164193115 when confronted with valid criticism

So the next time someone posts dumbass shit you should remember that this place is retardation incarnated
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Do I have to redpill you guys on how awful Brilliant Fusion is again
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>>164193289
Yes
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>>164193115
you know that the specific criticism is about your shitty Brilliant Fusion engine ratios, something that has already been perfected by both TCG and OCG

but nevermind, stay a scrub
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>>164193316
Getter, you're already red pilled.

And by the way. Tyrant Neptune turbo is suicide and dies to Crystal Wing.
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>>164193282
Valid criticism like the mathematical odds of opening a 3-of versus the second copy of a 2-of, or criticism on the lack of tops for an unreleased deck.
So actually this post is meant for >>164192967
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>>164193289

I'm just doing it because a dog on the internet told me to do it

please help there is a lapis and an amethyst in my deck and i don't understand why they're there
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>>164193378
I never get to play with you guys anymore.
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>>164193346
holy shit it really is the same retard who posted that youtube shit

how do you remember to breathe, in between crying over card games and not understanding basic percentages?
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>>164193282
wrong filename, this is the one, the "121%" chance
>>164193383
so you think yourself better than everyone else that has already used the brilliant fusion engine and that only use 1 Garnet? Why do people at YGO keep trying to reinvent the wheel? Do they seriously feel better by being a special snowflake?
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>>164193439
We barely play at all either.
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>>164193383
Better watch out before the mouthbreather acts like brilliant monarchs or some other trash TCG deck plays the same as one with a searcher for Brilliant, and then gets angrier at a literal meme deck that's not even playavle let alone its lack of tops, for the 10th time today.
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Is this card completely useless?
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If someone like myself were to ask for the math behind 1 garnet versus 2, it would be ignored for the sake of unproductive autism right?
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>>164193521
>an unreleased card doesn't have tops
Holy shit you posters are stupid and can't substitute context at all.
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Do you ever put a random waifu card in your deck?
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>>164193654
no problem. I admit I was wrong about the chance being exactly the same, but it's approximately the same

Here's the chance for opening 1 Garnet and 1 Brilliant (if you don't open Brilliant Fusion Garnet is just a brick but as you don't have Brilliant Fusion it doesn't matter)
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>>164193740
Nope
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>>164193654
2 garnet is better for pulling off brilliant fusion but it's bad for you hands. There's a complete study on the org.
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>>164193782
>>164193654
here's the chance for opening double Garnet or Double Garnet and any copy of Brilliant
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>>164193667
>making a trip to prove your point
You might as well go drown in the shithole discord, you are no special snowflake. Everyone here is aware the damn card isnt released
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>>164193383
The things you discard for Scorpio don't plus anyways unless it's Darkvrm and you're about to lose your field somehow, so it doesn't even matter if you open a Garnet, but /dng/ had people saying zodiacs were bad so I don't expect these mistakes to be able to compare engines in new contexts.
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>>164193667
https://discord.gg/7kvGR
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>>164193912
>>164193782
>>164193654
and here is the 0.29% chance of opening Garnet/Garnet/Brilliant

and while it makes the Brilliant engine "better" you end up having more dead hands, more bricks and overall making your deck worse

>>164193971
I'm not even him you fucking failure of human being

I wait this argument stops because I can't seriously believe someone believes that he should main a card to prevent a situation that has a specific chance of happening >>164193782 3.55% of the time. May as well add 2 Taketomborgs to your main deck because of the times you open Taketomborg and Terrortop
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Reminder percy doesn't love you
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>>164194114
tomborg can SS from the hand in case you forgot
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>>164194196
I would Delete ygopro
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>>164194282
oh yeah, now that you were BTFO by math the only "argument" you have left is moving the goalposts. Nobody is talking about Terrortop, it was just an example you fucking idiot.
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>>164194341
Keep making incorrect examples and calling others idiots while conveniently ignoring the scary posts like >>164193983 >>164193004

That's not sarcasm, keep it up. It's good entertainment.
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>>164194114
is this a program or a website? It seems really useful, I initially thought you were wrong but the difference between 1.5% and 3.5% isn't really that big
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Why don't people run Silver Sentinel to bait Twisters?
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>>164194341
You can't compare both you moron, Brilliant literally can't be used if you open Garnet. With Top and Tom they are still usable. You are just stupid. Seriously fuck off cutegirl
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>>164194341
how can you admit your estimation was actually 3 times as big as the real answer and then claim the numbers are on your side

the numbers are 1/3 of what would be necessary for your argument and that's with no regard to searching.
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>>164194481
what scary posts? You mean >>164193983 that was actually something that helps my argument because opening Garnet isn't that bad as you make it to be?

you mean >>164193004 that also said that adding extra cards to your deck ends up making it worse? Drawing 6 is harder than drawing 1, he didn't even talk about the second Garnet because the second Garnet shouldn't even be used to begin with
>>164194542
you can shuffle the Garnet with Emeral if you open the Predaplant combo
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>>164194652
so you're thinking on terms of size instead of actual probability

tell me, do you consider a 0.5% chance to be far from a 0.2% chance for dueling purposes?
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>>164194665
I thought you were saying 2 garnet is no good, but if you recognize that opening a garnet if you still have 1 in deck isn't actually that big of a deal, that's fine. Having 0 garnets left in deck is what you have to avoid obviously.
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>>164194665
You don't have to draw all 6 of them lol
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Can you GOSR Neptune before he copies the effect?
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>>164194652
the calculator doesn't account for the times you topdeck a Garnet and end up losing or the multiple hands that are made worse by getting a Garnet instead of something useful, and those cases are extremely real as at the start, when people experimented with the Brilliant Build, they ended up finding out the hard way that maining 2 Garnets was just worse. As anon said here, there are fucking essays about why maining 2 Garnets is worse.

But here I am, spoonfeeding an absolute retard that believes himself better than the rest of the YGO players in the entire world and wants to be a special snowflake by using 2 Garnets instead of one
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>>164194924
looks like it, it just says "on the field" so you don't have to figure out if "already face-up" will let you chain to a trigger effect on summon, like it does/doesn't for S/T
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>>164194943
There are essays, but all /dng/ has is the bad kind of autism and absolute fear of the facts in how Cobra discarding a monster and searching BriFu makes an engine different

and pants-on-head retarded suggestions like "make emeral, who cares about searching neptune anyway"
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>>164195163
Sorry, that's not /dng/ as a whole that's like that, it's a retard on /dng/ who's like that.
I'd hate to lump the rest of you with a waste of oxygen who thinks each part of a deck exists in a vacuum and will go berzerk over one more garnet in a 40 card deck compared to what he's used to
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>>164195163
your cards don't work in a vacuum. You will end up dropping the Garnet to 1 as you will find out the hard way that using 2 is just bad. Shuffling the Garnet back to deck with Emeral should be made if you already have Neptune on hand.

I think that you have a bad case of theory-oh. You can't contextualize the engine on a different medium and you think that the fact that uses unreleased cards means it will work differently. It won't. The Brilliant engine is something tried and proven.
>>164195292
you're the only waste of oxygen as everything I've said on this and the past thread was to make people understand that cards don't work in a vacuum. Adding a Garnet to your main deck in the hopes of reducing the times you lose because you opened Garnet and Brilliant is a sure sign that you don't understand that the Garnet you added and ended up drawing could have been a different card that actually helped you win. But I guess that's the reaction of stupid fucks like you

"HE GOES BERSERK BECAUSE HE'S A TRYHARD AND HE CAN'T THINK DIFFERENTLY".
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>LL Neptune is literally "Out this or lose next turn"

When was the last time we had bullshit of this caliber? Chicken Game? Thank god it's not consistent
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I would like to add that in this autism-fest nobody noticed how some moron took a post saying "you'll use your fusion search on brilliant instead of instant if you open instant so any of those 6 cards should count as situations where opening garnet would nullify brilliant" which is not exactly true since you arent guaranteed to open a fusion searcher but the idea is still there.

Anyway I would like to add that some moron thought it somehow meant you had to draw 6 cards. I mean, did nobody else catch that?
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>>164166382
>unlimited
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>>164195469
you just had it spoonfed to you that opening a garnet isn't a big deal since it's discard fodder for scorpio lol
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>>164195712
then just add a third Trick Clown because opening it isn't a big deal since it's discard fodder for Scorpio and it actually pluses LOOOOOOOOL
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>>164195557
Fuck off Tewart.
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>>164195712
>just let me counter this situational problem with this situational card that barely reduces the chances anyway
>if I open it I just use it as discard fodder LOOOOL XD
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>>164195712
The funny thing is that this waste of oxygen just parrotted back the vacuum line getting it totally backwards without understanding that the whole discarding Garnet for Scorpio deal is absolute proof that engines don't exist in a vacuum and that opening a Garnet won't immediately brick your hand.
You're not perfectly guaranteed to have a Lonefire or a Scorpio but the principle is still there and his math is still wrong (and not in his favor) with Brilliant being your search target if you're doing Scorpio > Darling Cobra as your method of making Invoker and already have Instant Fusion.

Whatever though, he's beyond help. Every general has its share of mental disabilities. Better to not try and teach him, so he won't take more grumpy dumpys on the thread.
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>>164195838
brilliant mills a trick clown lol
you're doing a shit job of comparisons, the "just make emeral" one was bad enough. just take a break
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>>164195613
I think that the anon meant that Predaplant Scorpio counted as opening Brilliant Fusion in case you already opened Instant Fusion, bringing the number of copies to 6, therefore the "drawing 6 against drawing 1" comment
As for in which side of the autismfest he is I don't know
>>164196137
you seem far more mad than the other anon is. Anyway, the pendulum build with the gate scales is better.
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>>164196215
yes, and drawing 1 of 6 targets is still easier than drawing 1 of 1, not harder like the waste of oxygen said

but it's not exactly 6 since the math is a little different, you probably won't bother with brilliant fusion if you can make king of the imps without using your normal (and already opened instant)
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>Jaden, Chazz, and Jesse could see duel spirits
Were they autistic?
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Brilliant Engine is a shitty TCG meme in its entirety desu.
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>>164196501
>dub names
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>>164196584
TCG copied it from the OCG though
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Since you guys are talking about this anyway, anyone have a Lyrical Luscinia or Predaplant deck they can post?
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I'm not a scaly, but
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>>164197419
I'm not a paedo, but
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You have to name at least one deck that is more fucking cancerous than Paleo in every conceivable aspect
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>>164198168
Cloudians
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>>164198168
RAT
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konami made unions meta, it's time for them to make Spell Counters meta
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>>164198168
demise counter fairies
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>>164198168
Kaiju
Nurse burn
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I am getting back to Yu-Gi-Oh and when I left Shadoll, Qli, and BA were the meta. So now its Zodiacs, Blue Eyes, and Magicians right? Also its safe to say to filter all of the tripfags because I have been skimming this thread and I think I am right about that.


One more thing I have been playing PredatorPlants since I returned and their pretty fun
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>>164199336
>>164199336
Join the discord https://discord.gg/nguFj
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Why hasn't Shuttleroid been imported into the TCG yet? It's been over 10 years, its the oldest OCG-exclusive card with an effect, followed by Junk Collector.
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>>164199975
It would break the meta.
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>>164167538
There's a Collector's Pack coming this year, hopefully we get some there. Is there anything else from GX worth printing left?
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Been gone for a while, what's this I'm hearing about Tyrant Neptune? Why are people talking about it now? What changed to make it useful?
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>>164200225
New combo with Lyrical Lusina that gives it 8000 ATK and 5000 burn. At least that's what I'm hearing.
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>>164200486
And unaffected by card effects
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Looking for a new pet deck, should I run Exodia(not the ftk kind), Six Samurais, Gladiator Beasts, T.G., Gravekeepers, or Quickdraw/Junk Doppel?
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>>164200486
>>164200536
How much do you wanna bet that Konami never took this combo into consideration when they made the LL Fusion? They'll be surprised to see people abusing it that way.
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>>164200618
Depends on what playstyle you prefer.
If you like agressive tactics and monster spamming go with Six Sams, Quickdraw/Junk Doppel, Glads or T.G.
If you like stun and control play Gravekeepers.
If you like Solitaire play Exodia. Doesn't matter if it's not FTK, it's still solitaire.
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Sub Terror any good?
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>>164200841
Decent petdeck tier.
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>>164191354
Did you know that there are more EARTH monsters than LIGHT monsters?
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Monster Reborn is coming back. I can feel it.
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>>164199336
>Blue Eyes
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>>164201664
EARTH and DARK account for almost 50% of monsters combined.
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When will we get the new TCG list? Want to invest in a budget pendulum deck but whats the point if majespecters/metalfoes get hit.
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>>164204006
whenever KoA feels like it

seriously
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Alright /dng/ I've been gone since blue-eyes won worlds, so imma need you to get me up to speed on all the memes that have happened since.
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What deck are you going to play for the new year?
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>>164197419
That card border is actually disgusting.
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anyone have a traptrix decklist.
I heard naturia traptrix is okay, but i don't what maindeck naturia monsters to use since a lot of them suck
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Call me scrub for missing something here

>"When this face-up card is sent from the field to the Graveyard, except by battle: You can Special Summon 1 "Gusto" monster from your Deck in face-down Defense position"

>it doesn't activate when I sent it to graveyard via tribute or use it for Synchro summon
>it only activate if destroyed by card effect

Why?
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>>164205693
MISSING
THE
TIMING
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>>164204006
Maybe in a few weeks.
Or maybe in several months.

Nobody knows.
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>>164205693
"When" effects only occur immediately after the condition for their activation is met. If that can't happen (like if a synchro summon occurs right as it goes to grave), they simply miss the timing.

What you want is an "IF".
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>>164205727
>>164206283
I seriously hate this ruling.
It is literally nothing more but a design flaw with cards and yet nobody sees anything wrong with it and still thinks "When... you can" is acceptable to print on anything.
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>>164206503
Right, let's remove the whole missing the timing mechanism, let's make synchro masturbation meta.
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>>164206854
better than rank 4 spam and toads
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>>164206991
>Waiting 5 minutes for an unbreakable field is better than waiting 30 seconds for an unbreakable field.
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>>164207125
I actually love synchro masturbation. The simple math makes me feel like I'm accomplishing something while actually doing nothing special in particular.
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>>164206503
Its not a ruling, its a rule.
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http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm30340009
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Holy fuck, I am loving Master Peace the True Negator. Any tips on this deck?
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Alright /dng/, after playing Magicians since they first came out and loving them, I want to make a Performapal deck to fuck around with now that they've gotten all sorts of new toys to play with. If I wanted to make a Fusion-centric build, what's the best way to be doing that?
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>>164200673
Plenty.
Previous "unaffected by card effects" shits that were used to beef Neptune were actually kind of a pain in the ass to get out without going minus.
This? It's a two card combo.
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>>164206854
That's what Gusto needs
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>>164200673
Konami never put too much insight when making cards. If they do there won't be such thing such as banned or limited cards.

Well, you can say it's hard to so when there are millions of cards by now.
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>>164210375
>Well, you can say it's hard to so when there are millions of cards by now.
Fans saw a way of abusing Neptune within hours if not minutes of Independent Nightingale's reveal. You'd think Konami employees having all the time in the world could figure out the same things.
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>>164163880
I'm not gonna lie, I actually did get into a fight with somebody at locals because they were beating me. He was playing monarchs and overall being an asshole so while I felt bad later punching him a few times felt really good.
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>>164209260
>Polymerization
>Trump Witch
>Trump Girl
>Fugolem

Brave Eyes
Beast Eyes
Rune Eyes
Vortex
Starving Venom
Gattling Ghoul

There's seven right there.
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>>164210587
Because we use free-to-play program with all cards available that are free to use when the actual cards aren't printed with that in mind, and they sure hate what we are doing.

You know that most things we do here beside discussing IRL play are pretty much illegal, right?
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The only cards that get screened for balance are synchro supports.

And then it's not so much Konami going "this is necessary for a more balanced experience" as it is them maliciously proclaiming"FUCK YOU we'll never allow this shit to be good".
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>yfw Konami notices the Tyrant Neptune play and quickly changes Independent Nightingale's effect before release like they did with Juragedo, Lightpulsar Dragon and Stardust Warrior.
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>>164211897
So true, Noble Dragon Magician, Tuned Magician, White Wing Magician, Odd Eyes Meteorburst Dragon, Cosmic Blazar Dragon. Synchros can suck a big fat dick and Pendulum can lick Konami's asshole as far as they're concerned.
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>>164211195
Those are all good extra deck options, and the main deck cards go without saying. I was mostly looking for advice on things like ratios and what cards are worth running over what, though.
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>>164212260
To be fair, all of those were just loops.
The Neptune thing is just a fad which will fade out soon once we get newer and better cards.
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>>164212260
>Stardust Warrior.

uh, just looked that up

those dumbfucks, at least they realized before releasing it
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>>164212636

Now we have kaijius to make even that useless.
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So with BLS at 2 in the OCG, how long until this goes up to 2/3 when Konami realizes that Chaos is dead and never coming back?
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>>164210587
>implying Konami employees actually have time to think about this
>implying they dont spend 99% of their time thinking up new marketing schemes and the artists who draw the cards probably also have to come up with the effects
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>konami hates Synchro
>still prints degenerate masturbatory shit like this
Explain.
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>>164213427
It's Blackwings, nobody is playing that deck anymore.
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>>164213618
I thought Japs loved blackwings
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>>164213427
Man, that art doesn't look good
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>>164213704
They do, they also love Heroes which is why despite being garbage they keep getting printed cards.
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>>164213427

That's from the anime
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>Magicians are going to be tier 1
>Zarc is good
>Molmorat is guaranteed to get hit
Is /dng/ EVER right about anything?
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>you can search a general range for level and scale by adding < or > before the number
WHY HAS NO ONE EVER TOLD ME THIS BEFORE?
I only found out because I tried it on a whim, these kind of shit should really be documented or something.
Some other obscure stuff
bg2.jpg = duel screen background
cover2.jpg = opponent side's sleeve
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>various engines can search Instant Fusion
>The Tyrant Neptune is a Reptile, so searchable by King of the Feral Imps
Which rank 4 deck will best be able to abuse this?
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>>164216276
Cloudians
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>>164216129
To be fair, the Magician stuff was before the Iris Magician ruling and Imperial Order being released from the banlist.
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>>164216129
People expected Rat to get something scapegoat hit before it. Just no one expected Tenki instead of Invoker
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Who is to be blamed here?

Instant fusion, Neptune, Independent, or King?
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>>164216129
>>Molmorat is guaranteed to get hit
April OCG banlist, after Zoodiacs get the last support in MACR.
It'll be a good way to usher in CODU, a nice clean slate for the brand new cards to hit the tables in.
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>>164216934
Independent
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>>164216934
Independent of course.
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>>164216934
Independent didn't have that unaffected effect in the anime so i blame Konami
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Summon Predaplant Scorpio
Summon Predaplant Cobra
search Instant Fusion
xyz for Invoker
summon Rat
do Rat combo
summon King of the Feral Imps
search Neptune

Anyone figure out a way that doesn't take up your normal summon?
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>>164217204
>Set Supreme Gates as scale
>Pend summon your engine and do your thing
>Activate Gate Zero eff if you still don't have IF
But yeah Pendulum summon.
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>>164211195
Trump Witch is also able to be Pendulum Summoned now with Supreme King Gate Zero and Pendulumuchacho
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>>164217204
Have either IF or BriFu in hand, search the other with Cobra.
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>>164195624
At the time of purchase I didn't know better, I'll upgrade them sometime.
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>>164190574
I doubt fluffals could be called petdeck, they are far too consistent, have great swarming capabilities and if i recall correctly, they topped on OCG regionals, this probably makes them tier 1 at least
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IT'S POLL TIME

>best card of 2016
http://www.strawpoll.me/11999326

>worst card of 2016
http://www.strawpoll.me/11999370

>best deck of 2016
http://www.strawpoll.me/11999381

>worst deck of 2016
http://www.strawpoll.me/11999405

>best cardfu of 2016
http://www.strawpoll.me/11999420

>best side deck card of 2016
http://www.strawpoll.me/11999449

VOTE NOW!
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>>164221110
>I doubt fluffals could be called petdeck, they are far too consistent, have great swarming capabilities and if i recall correctly, they topped on OCG regionals, this probably makes them tier 1 at least
Have you taken a look on Road of the King recently? Fuffals are nowhere and it's all about Zoodiacs.
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>>164193627
It works on a budget skull servants build, combine it with Card Trader and you keep milling dark monsters (which happen to be skeletals) and if you don't like the card you topdecked with Veil, you shuffle that bitch and draw another one.
Its a stupid combo but hey, whatever it works as long as the price of the deck (around the time) is less than 5 dollars
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Where can I go to get redpilled on pendulum cards?
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>>164217204
It's a 2 card combo minimum.
Ophyrys (or Lonefire) + IF/BF/DS
or if you open IF then just anything that gets you r4.
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>>164221230
>Choco on the waifu poll
I was ready to shitpost, but good tastes
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>>164221945
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gs08XuC62LU

Ask here if there's anything you don't get.
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>>164221539
Picture for ants aside, i am still sure Fluffals are fucking brutal they can do a lot of plays, but just like Lunalights, Predaplant and Ancient Gears who happen to do the same shit of summoning big beater bosses w/protection, THEY FUCKING DIE TO DIMENSIONAL BARRIER.
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>>164221230
>Not a single Winterwitch in the cardfu poll
Shit poll.
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>>164221230
I feel like AntiSpell earned the win just for thosr World's features
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>>164221230
>3 zo(o)
>no ix
smdh
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>>164222769
Anybody have the pic of the Majespecter vs Blue-eyes match where the guy flipped ASFand the Japanese guy just held his head?
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Rank 5...
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>>164222310
They die to fucking beelze. They're a fun deck, but I have no idea why people keep calling them t1
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>>164223034
the other side
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So what will they hit to try and stop Nep? IF to 1 makes it less consistent but you'd have to go to 0 to truly stop it. Killing King of the Feral Imps would be a dick move that'd stop it as well.
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>>164221230
>Silent Paladin is winning the worst card of 2016
>all those months of calling it shit are paying off

Feels accomplished man.
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>>164222331
>>164222809
Here's a more comprehensive poll for the cardfu section
http://www.strawpoll.me/11999641
If something was missed, I ran out of space or didn't remember so apologies where necessary.
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>>164223912
It's a card that doesn't help the actually good Silent stuff so yeah.
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>>164223435
>dies to Beelze
>when Kraken exists

Don't talk shit about things you know nothing about.
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>>164224059
Source on those ruris?
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>>164223912
It's a card that's so fucking bad the dumb errata shitposts /dng/ makes end up having better effects than it.
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>>164221230
Technically digital bugs aren't a deck since they're just generic support for light insects
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>>164221230
>Best side deck card
>No Ra sphere mode
How foolish. All non believers will burn.
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>>164224059
>having to choose between Leo Dancer, Silent Magician and Dragon Core Hexer

What kind of a monster are you?
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>>164224171
http://www.pixiv.net/member.php?id=14123606
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>>164224059
>other magi than choco
>other luna than leo
>still no ix
i'm out
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>>164224449
Anon, thank you. I love you
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>>164224139
Forgot about him honestly. Still not convinced about them being t1 though.
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>>164224276
They're not an archetype, but if you make a deck heavily featuring cards from the series, it'd be really hard not to call it a Digital Bug deck.
>captcha: FLOODING GATEWAY
What did they mean by this?
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>>164224580
I agree with you. It dies instantly to Barrier/ASF/Emptiness and has to go second in a game where doing so nowadays is certain death. Nonetheless, it's still arguably the best Tier 2 deck there is.
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>>164224580
That's because they're not.
No idea what the fuck that guy's talking about, 80% of the OCG meta is at least Zoodiac and Zoodiac hybrids, Fluffals have no godda damn rep in the metagame at all.
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I don't know if this idea has already been done before, but its pretty neat.
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>>164224895
Zoodiacs aren't t1 either, anon.
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>>164225173
That's right.
They're t0.
They have created such a power vacuum that there's no room for tier 1 decks, only tier 0 and 2 or lower if even that.
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>>164225121
>no vyon
>no legacy of a hero
>only one absolute zero
>only one shining when you're going to be banishing en masse for eidolons
>a hero lives when you're not using masked heroes
Autism in deckbuilding differences aside, good job. I personally didn't like Eidolon Heroes because the normal summon is so important to them, and you won't always have it available for Aleister.
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Continuous trap card
It prevents either player from performing special summons, unless they tribute 1 monster in their hand or field.
Better or worse than Vanity's?
What if it destroyed itself when a monster is tribute summoned?
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>>164225573
>unless they tribute 1 monster in their hand or field
So like Amorphages?
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>>164225679
No, I meant to word it as every special summon needing a tribute as a cost.
But it's the end and the start of the current year so I can't be bothered with PSCT right now.
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legacy of a HERO makes me really want duskutopiaguy in macr. diamond dude milling legacy also bypasses the returning 2 cards condition

come on konami do me a solid and print his shiny golden ass
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>doesn't normal summon the spirit from the hand for more aratama searches
:(
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>>164226179
MACR is out of fusion slots because of Independent Nightingale.
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>>164226441
>worst ray ruined the chance for more heroes
JUST
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>>164226441
Weren't we supposed to get Dusktopia guy or was that a false rumor?
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>>164227551
just because it's a fusion doesn't mean it belongs to selena
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>>164227551
Go join collector's pack bait with the rest of the unprinted Arc-V cards

>>164227674
I never heard of this rumor but considering Dusktopia never had a chance in the first place since Lyrical's fusion was obviously going to be released with its Xyz like Windwitch it sounds like someone just made up bullshit
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>>164227674
Yes, we still can if it's above Zarc. DreamGai will probably be in as well.
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>>164206854
Synchro masturbation is the pinnacle of what Yugioh is supposed to be.
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>>164191354
>That there are fewer Dragon-type monsters than there are either Warrior or Machine-type?
And lets fucking keep it that way. Dragons are trash.
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>>164228413
That's easy to say from the other side of the banlist isn't it?
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The one who rules over space-time..Astrograph Sorcerer. has some girly looking legs
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>Destruction Area
>Quick-Play Spell Card
>Until the end of the turn, monsters you control (except Fusion, Synchro, and Xyz Monsters) cannot be removed from the field, except by destroying them.
What changes?
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>>164228603
>rules over spacetime
>gets beat up in a fight by a big koala
attack/def was a mistake.
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>>164228832
the ruler of a real life kingdom in ye olde times would probably also get beat up by a bear
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>>164228832
More like titles they aren't worthy for were a mistake.
>Zarc is the Supreme Dragon King
>loses to a Kangaroo Koala
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>>164228979
The queen of England would probably lose a fight to a kangaroo/koala
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Radiance, Dragon Ruler of Heaven when?

Nox, Dragon Ruler of Oblivion when?
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>>164229175
After Shuffler, Dragon Ruler of the Exiled
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>>164229301
What Poly, dragon ruler of the fused?
Tune, dragon ruler of the synched?
Rank, dragon ruler of overlaying?
Pend, dragon ruler of swinging?
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>>164229065
I am Pendulum and Fusion. Synchro and Xyz. I am the supreme being who rules over all existence! A mere fusion cannot defeat me.
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>>164191354
There are more Level 4 monsters than every other card type combined
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>>164229175
So for Radiance, you could drop it and a light to banish a card on the field, and for Nox, you can drop it and dark to search a dark?

I'm bad at creating effects
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>>164228145
>Other characters cards going before Yu- related anime original extra deck cards
That's not going to happen
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>>164229694
Radiance would just be a better blaster and Nox would just be a better tempest.
Try making them a bit more unique at least.
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>>164191354
Did you know I've been bad at this game since elementary school, but I can't just leave because I love the game and have fun playing it.
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how do i git gud with zoodiacs
im too retarded for the combos
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>>164229506
>>164229506
>Poly, Dragon Ruler of Synthesis
>Tune, Dragon Ruler of the Unity
>Rank, Dragon Ruler of Galaxies
>Scale, Dragon Ruler of Entropy
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>>164229065
doesn't Zarc have an effect that prevents opponent fusions from attacking? anime one at least
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>>164229812
How would you make it unique?
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>>164229694
Radiance - Discard to add banished to hand
Nox - Discard to banish a card in the opponent's hand.
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>>164229920
>they can banish from the extra

>>164229983
Make Radiance return banished monsters and Nox banish from opponents grave.
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Is "broken field spell for an underpowered archetype" a meme?

Because I'm in a creative mood.
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>>164230462
It's certainly a thing. Wouldn't call it a meme though.
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>>164230462
I'd say that Diagram, Xelos, and Union Hangar are pretty much meems
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>>164230462
Everything is getting a field spell so just go for it
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>>164221230
>PePe isn't in the best deck of 2016 section
>the deck was so cancerous it forced an emergency banlist to kill it
>monarch lockdown/monarch FTK not there either
I hate two of these (pepe and the FTK) but even so for the time they was allowed they were the best decks this year.
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>>164230837
Monarch FTK didn't top that much, but I get you in the lack of EmEm there, maybe is because it was more of a 2015 deal rather than a 2016 one.
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>that archetype you like but is shit
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>>164229175
I'm in the mood for CaC

>Radiance, Dragon Ruler of Heaven
>LIGHT Dragon
>Level 7
>3000/1600
>If this card is in your hand or Graveyard: You can banish a total of 2 LIGHT and/or Dragon-Type monsters from your hand/or Graveyard, except this card; Special Summon this card.
>During your opponent's End Phase, if this card was Special Summoned: Return it to the hand.
>You can discard this card and 1 LIGHT monster to the graveyard; Special Summon 1 of your banished monsters.
>If this card is banished: You can add 1 LIGHT Dragon-Type monster from your deck to your hand.
>You can only use 1 "Radiance, Dragon Ruler of Heaven" effect per turn, and only once that turn.

>Nox, Dragon Ruler of Oblivion
>DARK Dragon
>Level 7
>2500/2100
>If this card is in your hand or Graveyard: You can banish a total of 2 DARK and/or Dragon-Type monsters from your hand/or Graveyard, except this card; Special Summon this card.
>During your opponent's End Phase, if this card was Special Summoned: Return it to the hand.
>You can discard this card and 1 DARK monster to the graveyard, then target 1 card in the graveyard; add it to your hand.
>If this card is banished: You can add 1 DARK Dragon-Type monster from your deck to your hand.
>You can only use 1 "Nox, Dragon Ruler of Oblivion" effect per turn, and only once that turn.

r8 and h8.
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>>164231302
>that archetype you like but it's even worse than other shit archetypes
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>>164231391
>Nox can recycle any spell
Nope, can't see how that'd be broken at all.

Also radiance has more attack than blaster and that's not ok.
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>>164230462
>Super Neo Space
>Once per turn special summon 1 Elemental HERO Neos from your hand, deck or graveyard and 1 neo spacian from your hand or deck, both monster's attack and defense are 0. If you control a "Neos" Fusion monster it cannot be affected by your opponents cards and if it leaves the field you can special summon 1 "Neos" and 1 "Neo-Spacian" Monster from your deck or hand.
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>>164231568
>Light monster has more attack than a basic fire monster
I see nothing wrong here.
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Wind-Up Depot
Field Spell
The following effects can only be used once each while this card is face-up on the field;
· Add 1 Wind-Up card from your deck to your hand.
· Special Summon 1 Wind-Up monster from your hand or graveyard.
· After the effect of a Wind-Up monster resolves, you can acrivate that effect again.
· Target 1 Wind-Up Xyz monster you control; Attach this card to it as an xyz material.
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Can someone give me a recent Zodiac/Eidolon list? They were shit last I tried them.
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>>164231302
He got hit and Lector and Vector don't see much play but with the new support coming out it's his time to shine again.
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>>164228643
Fusion decks and whatever beatdown deck goes to tier 2 or 1
>SP
>Somehow my opponent survived a wall of boss monsters
>Activate this
>No more kaiju comeback
>GG ;)
It could also halt Ignister, who doesn't target.
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>>164231650
Would it fucking kill you to use proper PSCT?

>>164231568
>Alexandrite Dragon has more ATK than any FIRE normal summonable LV4 Dragon
Really makes you think
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>>164231302
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How high have you gotten your Number 92?
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>>164231892
>Would it fucking kill you to use proper PSCT?
Actually, yes. Yes it would. I would litterally die right now if I were to use it, it's like my anti-bankai or something.
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>>164231568
>Nope, can't see how that'd be broken at all.
Trust me, it's less broken than you think with pic related, DMoC and MoF seeing zero play despite their effects.
Also, what is there to recycle anyways?
>Pot of Desires
You never want to play this more than once a duel, especially with a 40 card deck
>Twin Twisters
1 or 2 should be enough for any duel, if you need more then side in Denko because she'll get the job done faster.
>Raigeki
This does nothing anymore
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Haven't played in a month. Are TrueDracos any better?
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>>164232234
>Trust me, it's less broken than you think with pic related, DMoC and MoF seeing zero play despite their effects.
>Also, what is there to recycle anyways?
You're pretty stupid.
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So what deck will I have to build from scratch once I get my tax return in late February?
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>>164232234
Might make Red-Eyes FTK a bit more consistent.
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>>164232039
I still remember when everybody bought out Pre-Preps and URAs for this deck and then the rest of the support came out.
Never seen hype die out quicker.
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>>164232413
eidolon ww artifacts ft rat and friends
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>>164232413
D/D/Ds
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>>164230462

>Gemini Archetype World
>Whenever you summon a Gemini monster, draw 1 card. During a turn in which you summoned a Gemini monster, place a Double Counter on this card at the end phase of this turn. You are allowed an additional normal or set for every Double Counter on this card. During either player's turn, you may remove 1 Double Counter from this card to do one of the following:
>Send 1 Gemini monster from your Deck to you graveyard.
>Special Summon 1 Gemini monster from your graveyard until the end phase of this turn.
>1 gemini monster you control gains the effects listed on every Gemini monster in your graveyard.
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>>164232406
Then care to explain why recycling spell cards would be broken then? especially with the -1 it gives
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>>164232426
>Red-Eyes FTK
The Meteor Dragon + 2 Inferno Fire Blast which got everybody shitting themselves?
Did that top anywhere in the OCG/TCG?
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>>164232759
>conflicts with Spark Field
>terrible psct
>stupidly long-winded effects that don't make any sense
0/10
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>>164232759
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>>164231302
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>>164232784
Nope it's not my job to educate you.
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>>164231302
The worst archetype that I like is fluffals, and while they are far from tier 1 I wouldn't call them shit
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>>164233481
You're a butt,anon.
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>>164231824

>Overbalances this to near uselessness

>Still limits it.

I want to know who at konami got ran over by a motorcycle and then took out his anger on tuners.
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>>164232784
>It's a neg so it can't be broken
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>>164234297
>He's this stupid.
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Iron Chain Foundry
Field Spell
When this card is activated, send one "Iron Chain" monster from your deck to the graveyard; Add 1 "Iron Chain" monster from your deck to your hand, then banish a number cards from the top of the opponent's deck face down equal the the level of that monster.
"Iron Chain" monsters gain 300 atk and def for each "Iron Chain" card you control.
If you Synchro Summon a monster using only "Iron Chain" monsters; Your opponent cannot activate cards or effects when that monster is Synchro Summoned.
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>>164234306
When was the last time a broken card gave the user a neg to use?
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>>164234437
Card destruction.
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>>164234437
Blaster ;)
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>>164234413

Yeah right because a tuner that only summons one synchro isn't anything other than garbage.
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>>164234437
Kaijus.
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>>164234691
>Kaijus
>broken
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>>164234676
>He really is stupid
Not that anon but, it's the pendulum effect that is the problem.
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>>164234782
>nearly unstoppable removal
>not broken
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>>164234676
You're reading the wrong textbox
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>>164234782
Kaijus by themselves made every single boss monster or form of protection that doesn't prevent special summoning worthless.
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>>164234782
>opponent spends all their cards and 30 minutes on making an "unbreakable" board
>destroy said board with 1 card
>destroying several cards worth of work isn't broken.
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>click the Donte Check Deck box
>use a deck with Construct
>summon Construct
>for some reason the duel continues and I'm not given a win
wtf konami
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>>164234853
Kaijus are good for the game though.
By being an out to literally almost anything, they severely limit what constitutes an "unbreakable board", and makes boss monsters for the most part not viable.
>>164234957
>making unbreakable boards breakable is bad
Sitting on "you can't play lol" monsters shouldn't even be a thing to begin with. Kaijus promote efficiency in card advantage and toolboxing as the only viable option over putting all your eggs in one basket.
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Don't play a voltron deck and kaijus won't be a problem.
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>>164234829
He's a synchrocuck, what did you expect?
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>>164234889
>Kaijus by themselves made every single boss monster or form of protection that doesn't prevent special summoning worthless.
Tell that to ABC.
They turbo into this every single game even with Kaijus around and are still the best deck in the game.
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>>164235061
I never said kaijus were bad, what makes you assume that?
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>>164235048
Epic meme, my friend
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>>164235089
>are still the best deck in the game.
What?
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>>164235089
Only because it can tag out into its components immediately.
Nobody ever leaves ABC on board, they summon it, then tag it out ASAP to avoid losing it to a kaiju.
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>>164235061
They're broken cards that are good for the game. What's your point?
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>>164235089

ABC shows that Konami still gives absolutely zero fucks about game balance.

I haven't seen this level of tryhard since nekroz.
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>>164235125
"Broken" usually implies an opinion of poor design.
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>>164235332
>>164235332
>>164235332
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>>164235061
>killing off one kind of deck is fine as long as it supports the kind of deck I like
Completely objective and unbiased.
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>>164206503
Blame Woodland Sprite.

Konami thought it was the only way to deal with weird pack filler pre-Frog FTK. As in people thought Archfiend of Gilfer + Woodland Sprite was an FTK when the late DM era had way too many FTKs.
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>>164205693
it has to be the very next thing to happen
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