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/dsg/ - Demon's and Dark Souls General

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Heide friend edition

Bothered >>164088350

>Character Planner
https://www.mugenmonkey.com/

>DARK SOULS 3
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1u8Mak1goSv4g73g16XsWV4sJelDQUatWkP2kcO6GVAA/pub

>DARK SOULS 2
http://pastebin.com/CAx8Yc8v

>DARK SOULS
http://pastebin.com/eNY3su63

>DEMON'S SOULS
http://pastebin.com/RjpF5s7a

>BLOODBORNE
http://pastebin.com/WdLBWD8n

>Community & Fanart
http://pastebin.com/7Qpa9ERV
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Miyazaki sucks edition
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Scholar PC; Can somebody

a) Drop me Mirrah Hat
b) Help me kill Avaa
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>>164138808
SL and SM you babby
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>>164138709
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Anyone got a high quality phone background of the Hunter's Mark?

Also to respond about BB's quality :
Sony poured money and dev time into BB because they couldn't have their killer app game be an unfinished janky mess. The involvement of Japan Studio in BB's development also likely played a non-insignificant role to BB being amazing.

But if it was Bamco's fault alone, DeS would be properly finished. Sony/Fatlus gave no fucks then but thankfully they do now.
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>>164138848
SL148
1.5m SM
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>>164138593
This might be the worst pasta since 4 with the Hidden 5th stuff.
>inb4 it was the same person
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Who is your Souls husbando ?
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>>164138593
Miyazaki doesn't suck, he just takes credit / is given credit for a lot of things he didn't do, and he makes just as many mistakes as he gets things right. Like most video game company heads.
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>>164139187
It's an okay post but it doesn't need to be fucking pasta'd at the start of every thread
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>>164139070
Do you have the Name-engraved ring?
Also, did you pick the Eye of the Priestess this time?
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>>164139535
Yes, it's just that I have 105 AGL and yet I still get hit by this cunt's attacks, and my estus feels way too fucking slow for this agility.
I don't have name engraved ring
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At Scott-King Jundifer :
The 6th Archstone is flat out unfinished. You can say it was cut but the intro cutscene alludes that it's a part of the game but it's not.

And even in it's unfinished state Demon Ruins / Lost Izalith is a fully functional set of levels and in my personal opinion on par with Stonefang Tunnel (that's not saying either was good lol).
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>>164139746
You're rolling at the right time, but in the wrong direction. Hug his back legs.
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>>164139484
Well whatever, at least it generates discussion.

>>164138593
This is inaccurate. If you liked DeS, you should love DS3 and if you liked DaS1 the best, you'll likely love BB.

DaS2 is good if you loved KF4.
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>>164139746
They only cost 5500 souls, the cat in Majula sells it. Once you have it, equip it, pick a god and tell me which one, so I can help you
Avaa has tricky times for dodging, but once you get the timing is easy. I had to kill it quite early to get a weapon from the DLC and I basically couldn't get hit.
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>>164140003
You don't have ANY characters between 1.4m - 2.5m?

If you use tiny soap I can get you from 1.3m - 2.75m.
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>>164139963
I like DeS and DaS2, but hate DaS1 and DaS3.
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So I have a third party controller and it doesn't seem to work with DaS 3. I checked the pastebin and it doesn't seem to have any relevant issue to my problem so I brought it here. I also looked around online, but all the info I could find was for xbox or playstation controllers. Does anyone here know how to get a 3rd party controller working for DaS 3?
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>>164139963
>DaS2 is good if you loved KF4.
I loved KF4 mostly for level design and DS2 is so shit in that regard it hurts.
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>>164140248
Alright, just put my sign in front of Avaa.
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Is there a tiered rolling system based on equipment load in Dark Souls 3, the same way as Dark Souls 1?

Is it basically stupid to go above 25% equip load or whatever arbitrary value it is?
Because I like to wear knight armor but if this game is true to Souls tradition that is probably a stupid idea [again]
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>Gets damaged
>Still counts as a successful parry anyway
Was "half-parrying" the worst design choice of the entire Souls franchise? It ruins player versus player interaction. Why should he get a fully successful parry if the game consciously recognizes that his parry was so late that he takes damage from the attack?

If that was the dumbest design choice then the second dumbest design choice was definitely the hornet ring.
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>>164140339
Souls is picky about that shit for some reason. I went through hell making these games recognize my DS4, which really pisses me off because Sony promised official drivers but ended up releasing a shitty little USB thing that you can purchase.

What program are you using to manage the controller? If none then your computer is probably recognizing it as some flavor of Xbox controller and you might need to find a program that will be compatible with Souls. Does this controller work with the previous games?
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>>164140458
DS3 tiers are 0-29 and 30-69

Same exact roll animation with identical iframes

Fast roll covers a lot more distance

Mid roll is a lot shorter and has poise frames towards the end of the roll, to avoid rollcatches
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>>164140437
Coming
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>>164140578

That's just lag. Or in the case of DaS3 it might as well be a game mechanic because of how often it happens in PvE...
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>>164140867
Not sure if it was you, but I got summoned by a really laggy host.
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>>164140437
Not seeing you
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>>164140793
It did, but I believe I needed some sort of "fix" to make it work for them too. I am currently not using any 3rd party programs to manage it, most games I play recognize it and I can configure the controls in the options. Are there any programs or fix files you could recommend?
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>tfw new player
>tfw mobility is always better than defense
>tfw wanted to play tanky knight character

why live
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>>164141195
I'm a bit rusty, but that did the job.
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Scholar finally done DLing
Is there a way to play faith-heavy? Never played Vanilla but I seem to remember everything but the basic Lightning spell being locked behind a covenant.
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>>164140341
>>164139963
DaS2 is good if you loved Armored Core

If I want a melee game that allows practical dual wielding, a huge quantity of similar weapons to tweak and customize with, more emphasis put on equipment, strategy, and build rather than stats or reaction time, DS2 is the way to go. It's not as good as DS1 or DS3 but DS2 does those things best.
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>>164138870
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>>164141212
I use InputMapper for my DS4, I have no idea if it will work with your controller but it's probably worth a shot.

>>164141714
Offensive miracles suck now but lightning infusion is a good option.
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do we have a discord?
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>>164141714

With faith, you get the best damage type (lighting infused weapons) and the worst offensive spells. But you get the best buffs, too.

Lightning is purchasable after one of the first bosses, but it's not very strong and has only a few casts.

Biggest advantage to a faith build is that you get lots of healing miracles early on, whereas other players are limited to the number of estus shards / lifegems they have.

Really the best benefit is just having high lightning damage/scaling because half the bosses in the game are weak to it in some form or another.
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>>164142117

Yes. Most of the FC hosts are there if you want up to date info on them.

https://discord.gg/mJyavyj
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>>164139187
hey man, the 4 with hidden 5th is fun
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The Stray Demon is MURDERING me.

I'm going with the crest shield, dark knight's sword and pretty much naked.

Being able to remain at its back and all, but a slight mistake and I'm dead.

Anything I might be missing?
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>>164142469
Are you getting caught by the shitty AOE even when you're behind him?

It's easy to get the demon in a cycle of butt pounding and frontal aoe smashes, the only annoying part is the aoe includes a small area behind him to further limit your attack window.
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>>164142469

If you're dying in one hit you probably:

1. didn't level up vit
2. have low defence
3. are getting hit in your instability frames
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>>164142469
>pretty much naked

why do people still do this

If he's 1-2 hit killing you you need armor. Go grab havel's ring.

don't use any R2s on the black knight sword
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>>164142673

What actually gets me killed is when he jumps up and turns around to hit me. Dodging it is being a little difficult, and when I manage, getting behind him again is the trouble.

The fight ends up taking long and I eventually make a mistake.
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Does sunlight spear in DaS1 have a nice payoff of being really good for amount of investment you need to make to actually use it?
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>>164142138
>>164141805
Thanks. Guess I can't play my desired build of chucking lightning bolts. Is that viable in DS1 or 3?
Additionally, what would you suggest as a good blunt weapon for the Cleric build?
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>>164142246
>tharjafaggot
I didn't think that place can be more cancerous than it was before.
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>>164142976
Yes
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>>164143096
There's 2 weapons that chuck lightning bolts. Both are good.

There are also a few AoE lightning spells (heavenly thunder) that are worth it.

Lightning is still powerful but it's just not as good as great heavy soul arrow / fire orb.
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>DS1
>weapons have ridiculous durability
>very few instances where your stuff will ever be at risk, only two enemies that are particularly capable of damaging equipment and one is a rare attack from a boss that is easily dodged
>repair powder is cheap
>restores a significant amount of durability
>works on weapons that have been completely depleted
>can be bought in unlimited quantities from the first merchant in the game

>DS2
>weapons are made of paper
>there are all sorts of items and ammo types specifically designed to break your shit
>once an item is broken, only a blacksmith can repair it
>repair powder is expensive as fuck and not available in any significant quantity for a long time, and once it is you have such a stockpile of weapons and armor that it's no longer relevant
>in the only game where souls not spent on levels still count towards matchmaking
>it restores a pitiful amount of durability despite how few you get, the fact that it inflates SM, and how much more important it is
How did this get past testing? It's fucking retarded how I can't just run an area and kill its boss in one go, I have to go back to the bonfire like a little bitch because my weapon is nearly broken and then I have to speedrun the area so it doesn't break again. I don't mind weapons being less durable, it was definitely too little of a concern in DS1, but they went ridiculously overboard in DS2. I haven't played DS3 yet, did they finally get it right there?
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>next DLC won't have Aldia, or the Serpents
I seriously hope you guys didn't buy into the Season Pass meme.
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>>164141805
Input mapper doesn't seem to detect my controller properly. It seems to understand that there is a left thumb stick and that's about it. If I map profiles it ignores them.
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>>164143468
>weapons are made of paper
I never break any weapons and it never became a problem. Only weapons that I can think of that has durability issues are twinblade, old whip and ivory lightsaber and even then they're underused.
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>>164143468
>DS3
>It's nearly impossible to break armour
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Is DaS2 SOTFS decent on steam without mods or do I need something like DSfix to make it playable? Just got the PC version on the sale.
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>>164143560
Let's be honest here. People who play this game but still hate it will still get their money's worth playing it for hours. That doesn't mean the content doesn't suck massive ass but what are the alternatives? After playing Souls games, everything else seems mediocre.
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Question to all the people who bought DS3 DLC:
General consensus is that's too short for it's price, how much would you say it's worth it?
I'll probably get it eventually, but not for the current price.
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>>164143468
DS3 is back to the same as DS1, durability is a total non-issue unless you're getting hit with something like corrosive mist.

They did improve a lot of the way durability works as DS2 was patched/re-released though. It still seems a little excessive at times, but it's nothing like the original version where a bug related to having 60 fps made your shit break twice as fast.
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>>164143795
PC Scholar is fine on its own. Any graphical mods will be detected as cheating and will ban you.
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>>164141539
Ds3 is pretty good for tanking except for bosses. Use any weapon with perseverance and bust through any amount of mobs. Greatshields are also great in terms of defense, offense, and reflection.
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>>164143930
>Any graphical mods will be detected as cheating and will ban you.
Yay, what fun...
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>>164143795
it is the best optimized port in the entire series.

My laptop barely can run DaS1 at 15 FPS even with the fix, but SOTFS runs at 30 on high settings.
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>>164143824

$5-$10. $15 is way too much unless you're getting the season pass for that price or $20. My main problem with the DLC is the pacing is terrible, it just begins and meanders about without a sense of definitive progression and ends abruptly after a bossfight that's such a spectacle I would almost call it overproduced. I didn't feel like anything was solved or concluded by the end because nothing changes and the main plot thread is left with such a big teaser for the next DLC I was just left unsatisfied.
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>>164144012
>complaining about graphics
Like a good PCfat
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>>164143824
I don't understand the length complaints, it felt about the same as DS1 dlc in length. However there is a lot to be said about it only having two bosses, even if one of them is probably the best in the whole game.

They fucked up with Gravetender though, it's so mediocre in execution and that's just an extremely shitty deal when there's only two bosses in the whole thing.
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>>164144023
>>164143930
Is there any more information on bans anyway? Is it an account ban or a character ban? I presume there is a way to spawn items without being banned, correct? I don't really want to farm up all the unique, one-time-spawn armor sets again.

I assume adding an item directly into my inventory will get me banned right quick. Can I just drop a random item and use cheat engine to change what the item is and then pick it pack up or is that purely a DaS3 thing?
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>>164143468
ds3 weapons have ds1 durability with ds2 bonfire restoration, your shit never ever breaks
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I'm somewhat new to DS2, but I sort of understand soul memory. Would I be severely gimping myself by attempting to get the all sorceries, miracles, and hexes achievements? Should I consider that character dead to the world, and co-op and pvp?
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>>164144389
No, especially because you could just throw on the agape ring and remain frozen wherever you wanted to be at in soul memory.
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>>164143824
It has the 5th best boss in the series and is about the same length as AotA.
They spent too much time on the PvP arena. Would have preferred it if on the icy floor there was a giant barbarian/giant crab/Witch Tree boss.
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>>164144306
Item dropping is fine, it won't ban you as long as it's not key items or boss souls. As long as a player can drop it or you can pick it up in the world, it's fine.
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>>164144306

I don't think anyone knows how they work. I've edited my SM/name and used various mods but I'm still not banned after 1000+ hours.
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>>164144306
>>164144673

if you get softbanned then your account is flagged so that the matchmaking servers only pair you with other softbanned players. you might think you're ok because you can see summon signs or get invaded, but those are other softbanned players
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>>164144931

No one is cheating though. I'm getting people who are clearly on their first playthrough. Wearing stuff like Veng-Leic mail and Greatsword.
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>replaying DS2 Scholar of the First SotFS because fuck you
>time to do the crown of the ivory king dlc
>uninstall
How did they manage to make something worse than the base game?
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>>164138432
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQjzms0VAR0

Reminder that Jund is "our guy".
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>>164145130
those are probably people who installed graphical mods before playing
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>>164145208
>thinly veiled youtuber shilling
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>>164145149
Could you elaborate on why you hate the dlc exactly? I enjoyed the level quite a bit and the ivory king fight was great.
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>>164138593
>did hundreds of hours of duels and loved it
>moved on to doing invasions at every reasonable invasion range and continue doing so to this day and love it
>DaS3 was my first souls game and since I didn't play the other souls games until after (and just for the PvE), I don't have nostalgia goggles problems
>DaS3 is the last in the series and the DLC2 has yet to come out, and it will likely have active invasions for a long time because it will always be the most recent souls game with the most up-to-date graphics (which all the normies care so much about)
>For Honor is coming out soon for competitive souls combat done right to satisfy when I want to be a tryhard instead of just a dickwraith

Feels good being superior to all of the oldfags and whiners.
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>>164145149
You know you can run straight to the second bonfire with only killing the first handful of enemies, right? Only because you'll be sandwiched on the narrow bridge leading to the stairs.
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>>164145221

I don't think graphical mods never got anyone banned. I'm more worried about the SM editing.
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>>164145461
>>164145550
I'm autistic so I have to pick up everything, even if it's a lifegem. For one, you have to go through most areas twice because of the ice bullshit. Also I never figured out what connects to where in the area because it's just white everywhere so I still get lost after 3 playthroughs.
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>>164143468
Did you play before the 60fps durability glitch was patched?

If so, how the fuck is your weapon breaking before the boss? I don't think I've ever seen durability drop below half in all my playing of DS2 unless I was deliberately trying to break a weapon (or using a special durability consuming weapon, which DS1 already had issues with). Third dragon ring is probably the only thing that can be broken throughout normal gameplay, unless you're spamming twinblades.

There's also bracing knuckle ring, repair spells, and just using a different weapon until you get to the boss...

If anything DS2 didn't go far enough with durability.
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>>164145208
t. scottcunt
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>>164144389
You're not supposed to give a shit about SM. By design the more you play the larger the player pool becomes, making it more likely to find opponents. People complained because they got matched with experienced players when trying to grief new players(so called twinking).
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>>164145464
>Tfw started with ds1 and enjoying ds3 the most
It really does feel good not being blinded by nostalgia. Also invasions in ds3 seem to be seperating the shitters from actual invaders.
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>>164143468
i'm really glad durability is a non-issue in ds3, it was easily one of the most irritating and retarded things back in ds2
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Is there anything better than DS3 Tool yet? I'd like to be able to use a DS4.
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petrified something or seed of giants?
everything else seems like early game garbage
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>Head back into DSII after years
>Get Scholar of the First Sin
>Go to Heides Tower of Flame since I want a faith build
>There are Heide knights everywhere
>No more free undead bone shard
>Finally get through and buy Lightning Bolt
>It does no damage
what did they do to faith
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>>164146373
pet something
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>>164146194
Putting pointless mechanics in the game is bad game design.
I liked the survival horror aspect of DaS2 thanks to durability mattering.
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>>164143468
From reading your description it almost looks like you are defending the weapons having little durablity.
I will never get people who hate having to repair their stuff.
I use low durability weapons and sometimes I find myself having to use a repair powder during the boss fight, which adds a fair challenge because you have to find an opening to repair your weapon. And I like it, no I love it.
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>>164146427
is explorer useless later on or do i get cool shit not just at the start
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>>164146424
Cum and Dumped
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>>164146373
Nothing is the true patrician choice.
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WHY IS THERE A DRAGON THERE HOLY SHIT
Did they just flat out not want people to go to Heide's and get Lightning Spear + Emit Force early? Jesus christ
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>>164143797
>After playing Souls games, everything else seems mediocre.

More like "no other games autistically pander to me and now I can't

In terms of atmosphere and player experience, A lot of 90s-2000s Japanese console RPGs play like dark souls.

In terms of mechanics, Legend of Zelda, Armored Core, Devil May Cry, Shovel Knight, and the 3D Tales series all have similar combat/customization, with AC probably being the closest game in existence to Dark Souls if you look purely at the mechanics.

They're just never "dark fantasy" and they're not PC/2016/AAA titles. Dark Souls is a throwback series built on the best parts of PS2-era gaming. It just happens to have been done well enough to survive in 2016.
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>>164146181
Part of me actually wants DS3 to get to that point where there's a smaller group of people playing it but they're very dedicated people who actually got gud.

I literally only invade now at various SL's and WL's in the game, that's all I do. I even started doing some blueberry "invasions" (idk wtf you'd call them for blues when you get summoned to help people) and even the other invaders are often bad players who I take a huge disappointing shit on, I thought I'd actually get good competition since blues have a reputation of being shitters but nope.

It's a pretty great feeling when you take out a 1v3 +resummons and blues all by yourself though, I love the feeling that you can run away if you need to and use the mobs in the level to your advantage, you can use the obscuring ring and stalk people, you can ambush people and do guerilla tactics, etc. You can make as OP of a build as you want since you're often going to be fighting against gankers. I'll only stop playing it if I literally can't get invasions anymore, like i have to wait an hour just to get 1 invasion or some bullshit. Even when I move on to For Honor I'll still do invasions while it's possible.
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>>164146490
>Putting pointless mechanics in the game is bad game design.
Indeed, i believe durability should be removed completely
>survival horror aspect of DaS2
??????????
What survival horror? Nothing in the game is even remotely survive- or horror-.
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>>164146350
>actually using this chinese botnet shit
absolute madman, use scp driver package or ds4windows (scp for ds3 the latter for ds4)
http://emulation.gametechwiki.com/index.php/MotioninJoy
http://emulation.gametechwiki.com/index.php/DualShock_4
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>>164146728
The dragon is very very easy, anon

Remember last giant? do that, just hug its legs

how bad can people be jesus christ
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>>164146424
It was good due to the devs being retarded so they neutered it instead of correcting their mistakes.
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>>164146728
that nigga dies in two hits
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>>164145149
>>164145779

Do you want your hand held through the level?

Ivory King is probably top 10 levels and boss in the franchise. It's the best part of SOTFS, or at least as good as Brume Tower. Use some goddamn intelligence and you won't get lost in the area.
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>>164146728
You don't need to kill the dragon to get Lightning Spear.
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>>164147137
Brume Tower and Sir Alonne are so much better it's not even funny.
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>invading during workdays
>a bunch of pve fags normally progressing through the game, 1-2 phantoms at most and all of them are shit
>invading during weekends
>laggy fucktards, scared shitters disconnecting left and right, seed every second invasion on top of passworded 3 phantom groups with ungodly physical resistances
funniest thing, it was this way as long as i remember starting with ds1 though fuckfaces couldn't stack so much advantages
should i just stop trying to invade during weekends or something
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>>164146806
>It's a pretty great feeling when you take out a 1v3 +resummons and blues all by yourself though, I love the feeling that you can run away if you need to and use the mobs in the level to your advantage, you can use the obscuring ring and stalk people, you can ambush people and do guerilla tactics, etc. You can make as OP of a build as you want since you're often going to be fighting against gankers. I'll only stop playing it if I literally can't get invasions anymore, like i have to wait an hour just to get 1 invasion or some bullshit. Even when I move on to For Honor I'll still do invasions while it's possible.
What happens when the host and phantoms are all shitters with seed? I think I'll only invade with in a goal in mind that I'm there to waste their resources unless I find an opportunity to kill the host or I'll BC if they keep forcing a stupid game of attrition and cat-mouse plus the resummoning.
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>>164147438
you can invade and make mischief like >>164147446 said. but im inclined to think that's also a waste of time if you spend over 10 minutes trying to whack a prepared host
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>>164147446

You answered your own question. That said, my general rule of thumb is I'll deal with ganks or seeds, but never both. The nice thing about invading at low-mid levels is that seeds are actually quite rarely used so simply leaving when you run into them won't actually affect your play time by much.

If it's like, a lone host or a 2v1 and they wanna fight by the bonfire and they have seed I'm usually cool with that though. Even 3v1's in all honesty. The shit I generally won't put up with is a host that seeds and just runs around the level forever or really really good summoner class hosts that also just run away forever but use that to summon a million phantoms with way of the blue on too.
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Anyone want to do the second part of Drangleic castle with me? Around 5.5mil SL, SotFS
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>>164147875
Fuck yeah I'm coming.
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>>164147948
Just coming on now, it's that bonfire after the two dragonriders
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What weapon are you supposed to use against the stupid fucking Curse-Rotted Greatwood, since there's only one specific method of actually doing damage in the first place? I swear to god, I'd rather 1v3 ruin sentinels again then fight this piece of shit boss.
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>>164147990
Sign is down
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>Every single person that invades me has a caestus and meta weapon
there is no build variety in this game at all, and magic feels like shit compared to 2 and 1
pvp sucks balls
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>>164148024
same weapon you're supposed to use for the entirety of ds3. a straight sword
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can i only jump at certain ledges or what
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>>164143795
runs like a charm
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>>164148132
Fuck that, a spear and halberd/catch-pole got me through ds1 and ds2 multiple times. I can't fucking stand using swords in this game.
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>>164148108
>he still has DS3 installed
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>>164147776
>You answered your own question.
BC can't be the only solution. I never had to resort to BC and if I die, then so be it. It's just that if I do end up dying I have to run back to get my souls and I end up doing that more often because there's way too much bullshit you have to put up with when invading. You ever go back to the only nearby restaurant that they changed the rules and now you can only eat a certain way and with a dress code. You wait there for a long time and only to find out the food you paid for is crap, the guy who's serving you may say you fuck off and eat elsewhere? Both customer service and the food is shit just like the quality of invasions. You either go tryhard or die for the sake of the host's entertainment.
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>>164148061
Can't see it at Central Castle Drangleic bonfire, 5.42m SL as well
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>>164148250
i have all of them installed my nig ON MY SSD
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>>164148398
I'm 5.7m so you should see me.
You're on PC, right?
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>>164146490
>>164146841

*attempted survival horror

Dark Souls 2 is intended to be played in large, explorable areas with lots of torch-heavy sections where you have to compromise your shield/2H weapon to use a torch. Durability is a concern because you're supposed to be hunting for the bonfire.

But it's really obvious that most of their choices were trying to evoke a more survival horror feeling.

Half of the levels in the game have some survival/torch mechanic to make the game feel claustrophobic:
>Things Betwixt Sconces and invader
>Majula Mansion and Pit
>Forest of the Fallen Giant's Skeleton Room and Crystal Lizard room
>No-Man's Wharf's Darkstalkers and sconces
>lost bastille's flammable barrels
>Sinner's Rise's oil and waist-deep water
>Huntsman's Copse's caves, abandoned building, and fixed aggro distance
>Harvest Valley's poison fog
>Earthen Peak's illusory walls, windmill
>The Pit's everything
>The gutter's entire point is for you to light your way as you go along
>Black Gulch's flammable pools, hidden rooms, and giants
>Shaded wood's fog and invisible phantoms
>Drangleic Castle's statues, soul torch mechanisms, and dark rooms
>Shrine of Amana slow-walk in water
>Undead crypt, an ENTIRE LEVEL BUILT AROUND FORCING YOU TO NOT USE THE TORCH WHEN YOU NEED IT
>Aldia's Keep, with wall-crashing enemies and cages holding monsters, plus the torches for the dragon and Forlorn
>Dark Chasm of Old's entire olympic torch running contest mechanic

Other DS2-specific survival horror shit:
>limited healing ability, making resource management super important
>limited upgrade equipment
>limited farming / world permanence (eventually enemies stop respawning, and killing multiple times lowers drop rates)
>universal exploration items (pharros lockstone, fragrant branch)
>enemies that crash through walls
>pursuer stalking the player nemesis-style
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>tfw you like cinematic bosses like ocerios
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>>164148492
Yeah, PC SotFS
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>>164146879
>>164146350
>Motioninjoy

Get SCP server.

http://emulation-general.wikia.com/wiki/SCP_Driver_Package

I can't believe people are still recommending motioninjoy in 2016
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Is there a group made here fpr psfags? I just bought it sl 20 somehing just been dropping summon signs near boreal to help new players and. Get back into the groove
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>>164148631
Oceiros is not a cinematic boss. He poses a legitimate challenge on top of having voice lines, as do the twin princes.

Cinematic bosses are QTE garbage like Ancient Wyvern or Wolnir.
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>>164148649
dummy
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Demon's Souls good enough to justify purchasing a console for? Or has the game aged too badly? I've played all the other games but missed out on DeS.
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>>164148867
I thought that just stopped invasions not coop? My bad if not, should be gone soon(tm)
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>>164148669
You can't really read, can you?
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>>164148868
If you can strike a good deal on ps3 then yes.
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>>164148959
You can nullify it early at the bonfire
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>>164148868
It's got other good games on it but I wouldn't buy a PS3 literally just for DeS. If you can find 1-2 other games it'd be worth it to me considering how relatively cheap they are these days.
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>>164149189
Thanks senpai
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>>164148108
>invasions are easy
>everyone uses what they want since they can twink maxed weapons to win anyway
>invasions are hard
>everyone tryhards

Pretty simple, you actually see variety in duels even though the arena itself sucks. But while you could slow walk while med/fat rolling and pretend to be havel/a darkwraith, doing so in 3 gets you killed
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>>164148868
Only if you want to play other PS3 games. It gives you a nice vector to try out other games pretty similar to Souls, like Dragon's Dogma or Armored Core For Answer / Armored Core Verdict Day.
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>>164148959
>>164149281
Got wombo combod
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>>164149360
You can get Dogma on PC now so I would rather play it there.
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>>164149480
I'll come back to the bonfire
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This has probably been asked a hundred times already but I just don't know what to do. Back when ds3 cam out it ran on my pc decently enough with consistent 50-54 fps. I recently went back to play it again and it barely gives me 17 fps. I'm using a gtx 960 and I have more than enough ram. I know people who can run the game on max settings with worse computers than mine and I've tried messing with all nvidia settings repeatedly and installing and uninstalling drivers. I'm all out of ideas at this point.
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>>164149480
Thanks anon, doing more if you want to come
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>trying to get better at pvp
>mfw invading in the Boreal Valley

Holy fuck I feel like I have cancer in-between the gankers, seed users, lag, and retarded dark spirits who decide to attack ME rather than help out with the fuccboi host and his faggot phantom crew

Admittedly, I do think most of my deaths are a result of my own retardation, but holy hell.
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>>164150198
Of course. Sign is in Amana.
Are you wearing Agape Ring?
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>>164150071
You're sure you are running it with 960 and not integrated graphics card?
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>discount giant dad tries to invade in LGK
>gets stomped like the scrub he is
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>>164150241
I wasn't, I am now though
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>>164150241
I'll come back to the bonfire everytime something unfortunate happens
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>>164150279
Yeah I even made sure to check it on the nvidia control panel.
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>>164150240
>retarded dark spirits who decide to attack ME rather than help out with the fuccboi host and his faggot phantom crew
Rosaria's Fingers need only fetch tongues for their mistress.
Otherwise, we are free, unchained.
Like Yellowfinger, you can choose to believe that all Fingers share camaraderie.
But do not force your romance on the rest of us.
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>>164148548
You have a heart of gold.
Maybe /dsg/ will be gud again some day after all.
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Is it sad that i've only been playing this game for a week?

I just finished the snow DLC and now I am little burned out from binge playing it all week.

It's my first souls game, I hated it at first and tried to refund it, but then I forced myself to play it and got hooked.
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>>164150738
Leonhard pls leave
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>>164150678
>nvidia control panel
where? I'm genuinely curious
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>>164151050
just dropping some cold ass truth on ya dunces
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>>164147438
It goes both ways.

>New character, crucifixion woods, using Raw Corvian Greatknife +0
>Get invaded
>Wait at bonfire for him, not summoning help or anything, just don't want to deal with mobs or get invaded by heysel
>Smack him up a bit
>He runs down hill to heal
>wait for him to walk back up
>Repeat until he's out of estus
>tries his hardest to ambush me while I have to slowly clear the rest of the area.
>Heysel kills him

In retrospect I should have started summoning after he ran off the second time.
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>>164150856
DS2 can be really frustrating sometimes, but the huge variety of weapons and playstyles makes it quite replayable.
Also is not linear at all, it's like DS1 after the lordvessel.
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How much Agi do I need for my rolls to not be absolute garbage again?
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Waiting for summon, Kitten
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>>164150241
I'm at Rhoy's Resting Place if you wanted to do more
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>>164151558
I actually really prefer 2's linear style to 1's beginning, because it allows for many more varied and interesting environments compared to 1's beginning with undead burg, slightly darker undead burg, shitty sewer maze, swamp undead burg, and shitty gank forest
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>>164151053
If you have an nvidia card you can right click on your desktop and select the nvidia control panel. Its just another tool to configure game settings. I ran the darksoulsiii.exe with nvidia processor just to see if it really wasn't using it but unfortunately the fps remains the same.
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>>164151741
Sign's down
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>>164151720
12 ADP is usually fine honestly, I've never had an issue with it.
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>>164151720
I think 99 AGI is a comfy amount.
That's 24 ADP if you pick knight and don't level ATN.
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>>164151720
99 ADP at the very least.
I'm memeing now but unironically every time I play DS2 I put points in ADP and nothing else until I have at least 111 AGL.
Yes I would take comfy rolls over hp and damage.
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How is the Valorheart ? What other weapon to pair with it ?
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>>164151804
Interesting, on my panel this window only lets me configure this like CUDA, anisotropic filtering etc.
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>>164151858
Fuck sorry
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I miss the 4 Kings posting
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>>164152091
Farron GS
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>>164150071
Had the same problem, wiped hdd and reinstalled windows 7. Problem solved.
I'm not saying it'll work for you, just putting it out there.
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>>164146760
Good post friend
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>>164152191
You're fine, just stay away from its face while it's attacking.
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How much endurance do i really need for the FUGS ?
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Would not including online interaction beyond messages/bloodstains improve the game because they have more time and budget to focus on what actually matters?
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>>164148185
anyone?
doesn't seem to work on PC
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>>164150071
I assume you're smarter than average redditurd that connects his monitor to mobo instead of gpu, right?
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>>164152715
what game
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>>164152779
DS2
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>when you kill the last boss by throwing lightning spears without having to move
DaS2 was the best game as a meme
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>>164152232
>falling for the breakdance sword meme
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>>164152927
>when you kill the last boss by throwing lightning spears without having to move
Source?
Pretty sure aldia can fuck you up if you stand still.
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>>164152303
Cant really afford to wipe my entire hdd at the moment but I might just try reinstalling the game to see if anything changes. If all else fails I'm planning on getting a new gpu soon so maybe that will help.
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>>164148868
Demon Souls
Little Big Planet 1 (especially with co op)
Heavy Rain
The Uncharted series if you can't get it elsewhere, or at least Uncharted 2
The Last of Us

After that it's harder to recommend much. There's plenty of niche Japanese stuff exclusive to the PS3
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>>164153134
>new hardware
>not wiping hdd, at least the partition windows was installed on
Based retardbro.
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>>164152517
You assume that the resources within the studio are all interchangeable which is not the case. And the invading and co-op makes the single player have more longevity because you play through the pve a couple of times and there's not a huge amount of point in making buolds and going through the pve a million times just for the PvE, the thrill of an unexpected invasion should keep one on their toes.

In addition to that co-oping with dumb hosts is an adventure of it's own.
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>>164152517
>implying any thought goes on those
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>>164153114
I meant Nashandra, vanilla DaS2
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>>164152363
Where did you want to do next? Throne Watcher or Aldias?
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>>164152827
Jumping is L3 as you're running.
You can change it to O/B in the settings.
I personally find L3 way more comfortable.
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>>164153264
Did I say I wouldn't wipe it when I got the new card? I'm not going to bother with wiping my hdd right now when the only issue I have is one game not working very well.
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>>164152715
try disabling that double click option in mouse settings maybe that'll help
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>>164148868
Imo DeS is an ugly piece of garbo compared to the newer games. Is it worth experiencing? Yes. Is it worth shoveling more than 50$ for the console? No.

If you get a PS3 for it, you could get MGS HD collection and Red Dead Redemption on it, I guess.
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>>164153641
and can i only get humanity back from effigies?
how do i level up after getting enough souls?
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>>164153608
Your playthrough, your pick.
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>>164153753
I'll get to the bonfire outside Aldias, I'm just trying to get to NG++ for everything mostly so just the core things really
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>>164153721
>can i only get humanity back from effigies?
No, you can kill a boss as a summon.
>how do i level up after getting enough souls?
Emerald Herald in Majula.
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>>164153721
You can get humanity back by getting summoned via the small soapstone.

You go to the waifu lady in the game's village hub to level up. She'll also give you your Estus flask.
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>>164153838
Put my sign at the carriage, where Aslatiel spawns.
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>>164148548
I was with you up until
>limited healing ability

If they did have limited healing and didn't half ass the torch mechanic as much (Pits and No Mans Wharf were like the two places who did this great), than the survival horror aspect would connect a lot more.

Still the rest is good points. I'd rather durability be toned down concerning walls/dead bodies (I'm not sure if they fixed this?) but I like it in the game if purely because they can do shit like that acid basilisk pit trap, where you get that interesting interaction of avoiding the gas but sundering your armor so their little lizard attacks hurt more.

It genuinely should've been removed in current state DS3 lol, where basically all it does is point out a part of the game that was brainlessly copy pasted.
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>>164148548
>limited healing ability
>can buy infinite lifegems

>Pursuer
Berserk doggo from DS3.
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What's the best looking shield in any souls game?
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>>164154453
Balder shield
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>>164154168
They should've done durability like BB / DS1 instead of making it a complete non-thing while still allowing hackers to break your gear.
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>>164154042
I'm at the Shrine Entrance after the small dragon area
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>>164154453
Dark hand.
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>>164154808
sign's at bonfire
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>>164153901
>>164153871
thanks, one more thing
how do i equip stuff or is it limited to class specific weapons and armor?
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This is my current PvE Faith build, for the only purpose of doing co-op.
What should I focus leveling next?
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>>164155024
>cooping at such high SL
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>>164154989
>start
>"Equipment"
>select slot
>select weapon
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>>164155102
Yeah, I can only do co-op for endgame bosses with randoms, but I can use password if needed.
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>>164154918
Can't see it atm and an invader is halting progress running around the giants
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Why is Miner Pick so balanced?
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>>164155024
>11 endurance
is this a ruse?
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Just started as a sorcerer in DS2, should I stick with sorceries or switch to hexes? I don't plan to do any PVP if that matters
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The bosses in DaS3 make me really really angry for some reason. I don't get it, I like the other bosses in the franchise, but it just feels like straight up bullshit every time I die against Pontiff or Champion.
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>getting fanmail from low-level twinks unfortunate enough to invade my SL250 NG+7 pve abortion in DS1 with 2500 HP and max cast speed who can swap between CB and MLGS
that infinite upwards invasion range was sure as fuck balanced
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>>164155295
Was taking care of a blue. Sign's down again
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>>164155391
If you go hexer then you can do all magic, especially fire since it'll scale with both magic stats.
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>>164155391
hexer is boring as shit for pve while sorcerer is slightly funnier
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As a miracle man, does the Boltstone give me the bonus from my Faith, or is the only way to get good to have a non-lightning infused weapon then use the enchantment on it?
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>>164155381
No, I never felt like I needed more. Stamina fills really fast in DS3.

>>164155394
Maybe it's because how much their attacks auto-track, forcing you to time your rolls to "dodge" using iframes instead of careful positioning where you can easily get away from its attacks with one roll, like previous games.
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>>164154453
I really like the look of the Ethereal Oak Shield from the DLC, and the shield the pursuer carried around in DaS2
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Why do people act like SOTFS is a completely different game from II and a much better one? Is it just the DLC areas, or did the game really improve that much?
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>>164155584
I killed the invader and got the ashen heart so I'll wait at the cardinal tower for the giants memory?
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>>164155968
No idea, it doesn't run on my PC despite DS2 working completely fine.
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>>164155394
Pontiff is bullshit because of how he delays his attacks + the massive range

Champ is infuriating because the second he goes into his serious mode there's no time to heal so every hit is super punishing.
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>think of doing a SL1 playthrough in DaS1
>get killed by Capra Demon four times
>lose all interest
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>>164155968
when I first played DSII I ran to Heides tower of flame, killed the two bosses and got miracles + undead bone shard

in SotFS said miracles suck ass and there are like 30 Heide Knights in the area who respawn with every death.
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>>164155968
Changes some layouts, adds a few ambushes and curveballs

It will be weird to run through but it is not a dramatically different or better game, beyond the DLC

Some areas, like Heide's Tower and Iron Keep, were made worse imo
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>>164155921
I mean, because of the huge hitboxes of their attack and the long combos, you have to keep rolling while staying close to them if you're not a caster, because if you get too far away you'll miss the openings.
Meanwhile in previous games, you could get behind them after dodging and it was usually safe. But DS3 bosses have many attacks where they turn 180 while attacking.
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>>164156042
>dx11 game doesn't run as well on shitty hardware as the dx9 one did
gee I wonder why
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>>164156035
>china waifu fag lagstabs me into oblivion
Thanks.

You can't bring me into Memories, so I'll wait for you for Throne couple, or DLC if you want.
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>>164154453
Best :
DS1 Dark Hand

Some of my favorites by type :

Greatshield :
>Greatshield of Glory
>Orma&Reeve
>Tarkus shield
>Adjudicator
>Raven Goddess

Kite shield :
>DeS Knight shield
>Spirit Tree Crest shield
>Drangleic shield
>Wooden shield
>Dark Silver Shield

Small shield :
>Elkhorn round shield
>Heater shield
>ds2 target shield

Least favorite shields :
>Prolapsed anus shield from ds2
>piggu shield (wtf?)
>Grass crest shield
>Bloodshield
>Steel shield from DeS
>Kite Shield
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>>164155968
SOTFS just reshuffled enemies a little making game arguably worse, especially because it added a fuckload of petrified statues everywhere
it also gave shitters a fuckton of NPC summons with ridiculously broken stats so every second SOTFS invasion i did was a complete shitfest with scared retards hiding behind 5k hp npc who could cleave my asshole in two with a single attack
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>>164155968
>Why do people act like SOTFS is a completely different game from II and a much better one?

Because it is. There's big stuff like more phantoms and Aldia and small stuff like the hollow soldiers near giant trees attacking the trees. Some areas improved but some got straight up nasty, I'm really not a fan of SotFS Iron Keep.
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>>164156271
Sure i'll be afew minutes then
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>>164155968
They're delusional idiots. If someone likes DaS2 or SotFS I usually won't give them shit for it but anyone who actually thinks that SotFS fixed the problems people had with DaS2 or made it better is delusional. It's the only word I can think of to describe this mindset.
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>can place my summon sign but cannot place red sign or use CREO
Help? Scholar. No effigy effect.
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>>164156229
Champ being the worst offender with that back kick. And you still stay behind him because taking a decent hit is still better than taking a full combo.
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>>164155921
>No, I never felt like I needed more. Stamina fills really fast in DS3.
maybe when you're SS shitter
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>>164156093
Did you get the fap ring? Early game it can make the difference between getting 1shot and getting 2shot. Don't forget to buy charcoal pine to 1shot the doggos
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>>164156421
you have to be human to do red stuff.
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>>164156421
I think you need to be human to use them buddy
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>>164156052
Can people consistently beat Pontiff at SL1? You know, without cheesing it?
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>>164156618
Anything relying on hyperarmor trades.
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>>164156605
Is that strat where you Bleed him + Parry him + Sit considered cheesing?
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>>164156271
I'm at King's Gate bonfire now, might get the ring of blades +2 just before this too
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>>164156418
I just don't get how they fucked up the Pursuer twice. It's so easy - Just make him randomly appear in various places until you kill him.
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>>164156743
>Parry

Well according to me anyway

Maybe that's how they intended you to beat the bosses? Maybe they're laughing their asses off watching us trying to roll around or block?
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>>164154453
Chaos shield, obviously
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>>164156754
Was eating, placing sign now
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>>164157110
Was pissing, and Sir Alonne lagstabbed me
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>>164156618
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>>164157110
Can't see it, odd
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is 40 total enough for dark scaling or will i need 60?
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>>164157375
what the fuck
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>>164157375
I give it a 30vig/10
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>>164157375
>15 endurance
so 1 swing and out of stamina?
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>>164157381
was being invaded
try now, outside bf
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>>164157375

You're already dead.
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Anyone up for a FC?
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>>164157659
no, fuck off
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>>164157659
Depends what game
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>>164157595
Still can't, I'll give her 1 go quick too
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>>164157659
Fc in Nameless King boss room when?
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>>164157375
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>dlc2 adds seven relevant bosses in current areas by connection, not separate warped to areas
>fuckin aldia shows up as a surprise and all it does is taunt the player and call their actions meaningless constanly
>all major plots resolved, player character with aldias help has the truth revealed and can finally put the world to actually die and rest in pieces forever
>after soul of cinder we fight the real aldia
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ub-bg-rmEF4

what do you want, truly?
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>>164157784
>I'll give her 1 go quick too
what
>>
>Soul level 19
>undead settlement
>lay bones sign for nice low lvl pvp
>summon
>guy has the boss weapon of friede
>3rd world country internet so my magic sometimes just go magically through

Really? Am I with the cheaters without having cheated?
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>>164157826
>25 end
so 2 swing and out of stamina?
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>>164157784
Are you human?
Still wearing the Agape Ring?
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>First phase of nk fight
>shitty camera angles, fucked up hitbox on dragon
>second phase
>lol never stpo attacking
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>>164157863
>DS2 "lore" in DS3
>especially after AoA had zero DS2 throwbacks
Hahahaha
ha ha ha
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>>164157659

bf ?
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>>164158010
>Painted World having anything to do with the events in DS2 in the first place
What's your point
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>>164157983
Yeah, I only gained like 100k souls from all the bosses we did, 5.56mil, I just beat nassandra though so I can go NG++, thanks anon for all the help

I'll start NG++ in a few minutes though if you wanted to do a little bit of it
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>>164157659
That's enough responses.
PC FC at Lothric Castle bonfire.
SL 120 pass is dsg as always
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>>164157659
I'd go.
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>>164158104
>DS1-3 having anything to do with the events in DS2 in the first place
What's your point
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>>164157863
**You can summon human Aldia to kill the Primordial Serpents with you
I would actually cum on my desk.

>>164158105
Sure, I'm not doing anything tonight, and I haven't played this character in a long time. Want my sign at Cardinal Tower?
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>>164158243
>>164158010
uh, but it does a lot
plat ds3 more if you missed it
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What went wrong in AoA? The whole area feels odd, different from everything else in the game. Was it done by the same team? It honestly felt more like something from DaSII.
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>>164158260
Yeah I'll let you know when I'm close
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>>164158424
Aside from retarded fanfiction ("Aldia was a first scholar of great archives" lel) there's only a few throwbacks from DS2 in DS3 and none of them have any significance for DS3's story.
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>>164158471
>The whole area feels odd, different from everything else in the game.

That's exactly what Miyazaki said he was going for with AoA.
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>>164158581
yeah, just a "few", and nothing mysterious about it even when ds2 was supposed to be happening "after" ds3
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>>164158471
>whole area feels odd, different from everything else in the game
That's because it's literally another world dummy.
>It honestly felt more like something from DaSII.
Nah, it reeks from Miyazaki's influence.
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>>164158772
I mean it feels different because of the designs and progression.
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>>164158725
>when ds2 was supposed to be happening "after" ds3
Let me guess, Vendrick's shield just magically travelled back in time and became so old nobody remembers the name of a king who used it anymore and drang mercenaries ain't the last survivors of that shithole who devolved to the level of mercenaries?
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>>164158931
time is convoluted
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>>164158260
Almost there
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>>164158847
>designs and progression
Not really, it's a typical Miyazaki's design. Kinda feels like Hunter's Nightmare a little because you basically do one big circle around entire painted world.
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>>164158260
Ready and waiting
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>>164159056
Sign's down
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>he links or destroys the first flame instead of usurping it and becoming a god-emperor of humanity
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>>164158581
>there's only a few throwbacks from DS2 in DS3 and none of them have any significance for DS3's story.
>Entire game now revolves around thrones
>Yuria refers to you as a monarch just like the Emerald Herald
>Drang is the reason why everyone outside of Lordran knows that the stories meant to fool undead into linking the flame are bunk
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>>164159407
>revolves around thrones
Those thrones have nothing to do with DS2, they are just elements of fire linking system, not some shit stolen from giants. Doesn't look like DS2 throne as well.
>Yuria refers to you as a monarch just like the Emerald Herald
Jesus fuck anon, what a wild connection!
I'm starting to think that even "Aldia is the first scholar of great archives" sounds more legit.
>Drang is the reason why everyone outside of Lordran knows that the stories meant to fool undead into linking the flame are bunk
Well they are doing shit job at this apparently because there's like 3 drang mercenaries left by the time of DS3 and one of them became giant's poop.
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>>164159407
Yuria also has a katana originating from Drangleic
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>>164159334
Because that made a difference in DS1 right?
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>>164159310
I'm at "The Tower Apart" in lost bastille
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>>164159898
Dark Lord is not a Lord of Hollows. It was probably some failed experiment of Serpents before Kaathe entrusted his final wish to sisters of Londor and DS1's Dark Lord ended like 2+1+1 kings
You also don't absorb the Flame in DS1.
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>>164159334
>wanting to usurp a weak as fuck flame
nah, i'm just gonna wait for a new stronger flame to manifest itself and THEN usurp it. also i get to spend lots of time with the firekeeper.
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how do i open illusary walls?
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No throwing poop at my FC
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>>164160040
>he thinks he will survive long enough to see the new flame
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Does the knight slayer ring help at all if I'm using an ultra greatsword vs sword and board? Can't land more than 2 hits before I have to roll away from a backstab or they just roll away before I can guard break.
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>>164160338
I'll throw as much shit on afkers as I want and there's nothing you can do about it.
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>>164160338
Haha, poop
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>>164160308
In DS2, press X/A
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>>164159774
>Those thrones have nothing to do with DS2, they just serve the same purpose that the throne in DS2 did

Well said.

>Jesus fuck anon, what a wild connection!

Using the same word between games is often not insignificant. I know for a fact that that's why you keep bringing up that bit about Aldia.

>Well they are doing shit job at this apparently

I disagree, the Super Lothric Bros. don't seem all too interested in linking the flame since they know what will happen and that's kind of a major plot point.
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>>164159310
The Saltfort in Sinners' Rise
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>>164148631
>Tfw finishing him with a visceral as the vocals reach their peak
Great fight, always brings chills to my bones.
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>aldia is busy fighting the serpents or has already killed them that's why they sent out some other fuckos to attempt to finish their goals
>comes to us in next dlc and we co-op to end the cycle
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>>164159310
I'll go to the bonfire before dragon rider
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>>164160945
>yfw Bearer of the Curse becomes a schizo with Aldia and killed the Serpents
Miyazakifags would never accept it
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Is Solaire gay?
>>
DS2 Best game
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m7fYikkFr_I
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>>164161682
Perhaps.
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>>164159310
Huntsman's Copse - Undead Refuge
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>>164158202
FC could use more people.
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>>164162026
I banned them all
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>>164158202
>visions of fishing
good one Nana
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Has the second DLC been announced yet?
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>>164162269
yes
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who /two handed cleric/ here?
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why is this allowed
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I can't take it...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFgvXDlrQ5I
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The DSII Gargoyle boss is just everything wrong with DSII in a nutshell

>haha remember the casual filter with gargoyles what if we had like 8 lol
>prepare 2 die xd the real dark souls starts here
>just throw big dudes at them

Like Belfry Luna is the best PvP area in the series but the fucking boss there is garbage
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>>164163021
>liking belfry luna more than belfry sol
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>>164163021
it's garbage to a lot of players because they enter it way, way too early
and with the weird mentality of not giving up for the moment and coming back when much stronger
>>
Why doesn't WotG or force do poise damage to bosses/enemies?
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So I'm pretty far into DS1 at this point on PC. I already have DS3 for PS4 but decided after buying it that I should play this first and I'm glad I did. Anyway, I just started thinking ahead to what I might play as in DS3 when I'm finished here, and I think I want to use a more magical build next time. Is a cleric strength/faith type of build good in DS3? Or would you guys think I'd have more fun with sorcery?
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>>164163021
Focus on one at a time, more gargoyles become alive when the boss hp bar reaches certain thresholds.
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DS2babs?
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>>164163021
>easier maneater with Solaire & Lautrec available
>casual filter
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>>164163273
i get used to it within a minute of going to ds2 from ds3, oversensitive pussies honestly.
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>>164163273
I call bullshit.
DS2 deadzones are shit, but you still get 8 directions, not just 4.
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>>164163273
I don't understand the point of this post
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>>164163226
Nobody wants to tell me about magic in DS3?
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>>164163226
>>164164268
Why don't you play 2 first?
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>>164163231
If you only hit one of them, there will be maximum of 2 gargs alive at any given time.
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>>164164456
I guess just because I don't have it yet, but why, should I? I could pick it up.
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>>164164268
Two words: it's shit
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>>164164586
It's very different, which makes a lot of people dislike it. But it's a great game regardless, and the changes help keep it fresh, while 3 is very similar to 1.
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>>164164586
If SotFS is on sale you should definitely pick it up.

Hybrid builds and dual wielding will probably never be as good again.
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At what point Yhorska's Chime becomes better than Canvas Talisman?
I have both at +10.
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>>164159310
Upper Gutter!
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>>164164562
That's why I'm telling him to focus on one at a time.
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>>164164710
One of my friends, who generally has really good taste in games, says DS2 is his favorite of the series but I know most of 4chan would be triggered by that. It's the one I know the least about, though.
>>164164754
I'm not worried about cost at all. I'm no richfag but it's been out long enough I'm sure it'll be fine at Gamestop.
>>164164686
All magic in DS3 is shit?
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>>164165014
DS2 is the most 'comfy' of them all, I'd say. It's the easiest to just sit down and enjoy. Not to say it's better, just more enjoyable in that particular sense
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>>164159310
One moment anon
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>>164164821
60 Faith
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>>164165117
What do you mean exactly? Anything about the gameplay in particular that you can put a finger on?
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>>164165014
Offensive miracles are trash, heals are heals I guess, sorceries need a lot of int to do proper damage, pyromancies just mow down everything in pve because for some reason 90% of enemies are weak to fire
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>>164165390
It's hard to say, exactly. It lacks some of the stiffness that other entries usually have. Majula helps. I suppose it has to deal with the fact that some of the locations you visit don't seem like they'd be all that bad, if the enemies weren't there.
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>>164163226
Faith is more support, healing and defensive spells. Sorcerey is much more focused on doing damage. When going for when of the 2 the stopping points are 40/50/60 int or fai. 60 if you're going full on caster, 40 if you're going for hybrid. Remember to alays wear atleast one spll damage increasing ring.
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Cute nun looking for 1-2 strapping young men of faith to show her a good time through the Cathedral of the Deep.

SL 26/WL +2
Pass is dsg
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>>164165390
Colorful areas, controls and animations flow well, so many goofy dress-up possibilities

Feels like Katamari-Souls
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>>164165814
Booting up my N64
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FC over thanks for coming.
We never reached five simultaneous people. I suppose Friday night is a bad time to host.
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>>164165814

Sign is down by the bonfire.
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>>164165117
Really? I've heard other people saying it was full of pointless difficulty
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>>164165014
compared to any other souls game, DS2 is terrible in every aspect but pvp
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>>164165976
>DS3 is dead even on weekends
lol
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>>164165814
Sign's down where you are in that pic.
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>>164165976

Thanks Host!!
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>Dark Souls 2 introduces "cycles" to the story
>Hints at the end (Aldia's ending) that there is something beyond light and dark
>Dark Souls 3 says fuck it and sticks to the cycle shit without the interesting edge if the coin option

Dissapointed as intended
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>>164166302
>chosen undead has a greatshield on his back and an estoc
what
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>>164165976
Thx for hosting, poopyhead
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>>164166165
What made ds2 pvp good actually?
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>>164159310
Shaded Ruins - Shaded Ruins
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>>164166782
>Build variety
>Being actually balanced
>introduction of banning
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>>164166302
What is usurpation of fire? Oh yeah breaking the fucking cycle.
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>>164166875
>banning

What?
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>>164166782
They actually spent a LOT of time trying to balance it and nerf/buff things. It meant that broken meta things generally only lasted a short time. Even then, with the way builds were, you could use basically anything if you tried hard enough. Could even find very unique weapon combinations. Plus, fight clubs were popular even with normies, so PvP was considerably more active, without even factoring in the arenas
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Just started out playing, should I save my titan shards? and what should I spend my souls on?
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>>164166707
>chosen undead can't use a greatshield and an estoc
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>>164166707

CU is clearly a man of taste.
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>>164166875
I have a ton of builds I can make in ds3 though. Never undersrood this meme.
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>>164166961
(You)
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>>164166925
>What is usurpation of fire?

The Dark Lord ending from Dark Souls 1. In the end it doesn't matter because a new flame will rise anyways.
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>>164167054
and is there any way to store the souls incase I die?
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>>164159310
Gyrm's Respite - Doors of Pharros
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>>164167054

What game?
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>>164167187
No
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>>164167187
No.
Souls are extremely easy to obtain.
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>>164167292
Dark souls 3, I'm at firelink shrine
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>>164167284
Can't co-op in here. Placing sign at the camp.
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>>164167187

You can wear a Ring of Scarifice for a safer bloodstain retrieval.

>>164167341

Don't save them, they're very common.
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>>164167332
>>164167297
>>164167292
What should I spend them on this early?
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>>164167181
How does the flame appear if you hold it in your body as hollow overlord??
>>
im thinking about hosting a gimmick fc
new year's day, all day
brand new characters only, +3 weapons tops, either in front of dancer's fog or at the burning tree in settlement
y/n
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>>164167459
level up you dumb fuck

also if you get the deep battle axe, don't waste titanite on it.
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>>164167529
Should I save the titanite until the end or something?
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>>164167515
I would join
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Thank you, good knight
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>>164167497
You'll eventually get consumed by it and become the ash that the flame burns on. You become a bonfire
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>>164167587
No, you can easily farm titanite as well as buying it. Upgrading a weapon you're used to at the start is extremely beneficial.
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>>164167515
Raw Astora Straight Sword everywhere, enjoy
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>>164167647
>>164166245
I was still waiting there :(
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>>164167515
>raw ASS everywhere
Wew
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>>164167661
Thx Vaati, I knew I could rely on your fanfictions about the lord of hollows.
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>>164166782
Huge variety in viable gear / build choices, even in top tier play
Significant depth through various mechanics, even if they weren't intended (fastrolling, quickattacking, animation canceling, heavily delayed roll attacks, sped up inputs upon repeated attacks, etc)
Balance between heavy and light playstyles and weapons
Everything is fucking dangerous with high damage and very vulnerable healing, any damage sticks
Roll catching is vital and panic rolling is easy to punish
The best poise and equip load system in the series

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unPSHBCLlIA
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>>164167821
DS3 as a whole is fanfiction
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>>164167943
>>164167821
>People were shitting on the couple references that DS2 had to DS1 as being too much
>Then DS3 happened
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>>164168096
It's fine when Miyasucky does it eksdee
>>
whats with the knights snoozing around in the tower of flame?
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>>164167403
Thank you so much anon, you made this journey so much less painful! Just the last part of my journey now if you want to help. The Far Fire - Ruined Fork Road -> Chanceller although I'm not sure if you can help with that part?
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>>164167796
Would you like to escort this young, faithful, nubile, nun through Farron Swamp? If so, the pass is dsg
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>>164168454
they're depressed
>>
Does anyone even PVP for fun anymore, I did a whole bunch of rotations cosplaying as each hero from darkest dungeon and all I saw was meta, meta, meme, meta, meta. Nothing but try hards and "hol up lemme apply 1000 buffs"
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>>164168454
They're Heide Knights. They aren't hostile yet, but they drop their stuff. You don't want to fuck with them, though, unless your're confident. They're one of the more dangerous enemy types
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>>164156605
>>164156743
>>164156849
>tfw I beat Pontiff on NG+7 with him having 150% more hp, no parry plus with DANCER SWORDS

Wasn't SL 1 though
>>
So I haven't played any Souls game since the release of Dark Souls II and just bought Dark Souls III last week on PC. I beat the game fairly easily, so I decided to make a low level invader for dicking around. It seems like everyone in the Undead Settlement and High Wall of Lothric has some twink faggot summon with ridiculous end game gear. Is this the norm for invading?
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>>164168457
Can't co-op there, so I placed my sign right before the Mastodons leading up to Drangleic Castle.
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>>164168298
>>164168096

The problem with Dark Souls 2's references were that they were incredibly shoehorned and cringy, like the description of the Lightning Spear miracle or the Sunlight Altar copy pasted into Harvest Valley without any sort of explanation, or even worse, Old Dragonslayer. Dark Souls 3 is a direct sequel, and the vast majority of the references are performed correctly, with the exception of Andre.
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>he plays depraved
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>>164168601
DS3 is literally nothing but twinked out ganksquads for invading. And twinked out invaders
>>164168674
>Performed correctly
>Most 'references' are characters and armor lifted wholesale from DS1 with no alterations whatsoever
>The game has no plot of its own besides Sully
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>>164168829
Sounds like the horrible end life of Dark Souls where every faggot had 99 divine blessings and a +15 crystal greatsword. So all I can do is twink myself and hope it works?
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>>164168674
Le copy pasted onionfriend
Morion blade and Storm Ruler for no reason other than dickriding the fans, literal carbon copy of Yuria the Witch and the list goes on and on...
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>>164168516
Sure. Are you still there? Where do I put my sign?
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Top 5 Dark Souls videos, in no particular order:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZT5L8j-brgI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDidEV47LI8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5T198rMCG18
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8I6fmvp37TU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vA5oy41mpsY
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>>164169057

Place your sign by the bonfire, pass dsg.
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Why is Dark Souls 3 so boring. Game is just castle with hollow enemies, town with hollow enemies, forest, swampy forest, poisonous swamp and then it finnaly picks up with the Abyss Watchers fight. Them goes back to boring catacombs, picks up with Irithyll and that Aldrich boss fight, promises an interesting area with Irithyll dungeon, then disappoints when it and profaned capital are shirt as fuck. Then Logric castle and it's bosses are great and the game ends.

It just takes half the game for the nob-boring areas to come, at least Dark Souls 1 and 2 gave you a lot of options grom the start in case you disliked an area. Dark Souls doesn't let you branch out until Farron keep.
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>>164168568
First souls game?
They are all like that after one year
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>>164168298
the way DS2 "references" DS1 is an insult to the established lore
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>>164168669
I forgot to clear my immunity to summons thing since the icon only appeared once I got to a certain point, thanks again though anon I had fun
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>>164169280
Np
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>>164169137
Does anybody remember that one video where a guy keeps making up shit about the game while standing in Darkroot Garden? I know he says something about Darksteel enchantments and Ronsin's Dagger. His name was The Architect or something iirc.
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>>164169057
>>164169173

That's the Farron Keep bonfire btw, unless the one in the middle of the swamp or before Abyss Watchers works better.
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>want to shitpost about liking/disliking DaS2 and comparing it to other Souls games
>no more (You)s to stockpile
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>>164169057
Waiting patiently
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>>164169209
At least in ds1 not everyone was a metashitter maybe im only remembering the good but for every dark bead spammer in darkroot i feel i met someone using something not broken
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>>164169342

Yes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rlkEH0ovDhs
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>>164169343
>>164169391
Sign's down.
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>>164169423
Thanks anon
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>>164169417
After about 1 year, there was absolutely no player not using a family mask or dusk crown
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>>164169330
All thanks to you! Feel free to add me too if you wanted to, I'm off for an overdue sleep
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>>164169189
>Why is Dark Souls 1 so boring. Game is just city with hollow enemies, church with hollow enemies, boring sewers, poisonous swamp and then it finnaly picks up with Sen Fortress. Them goes back to boring catacombs, picks up with Anor Londo and that Ornstein and Smough boss fight, promises an interesting area with Duke's Archives, then disappoints when it and the Tomb of the Giants are shirt as fuck. Then New Londo, Demon Ruins, Lost Izalith and it's bosses are shit and the game ends.
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>>164169459

Actually the one that matches your description is this one

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5HpXFcKGZ-k
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>>164169391
Can't summon more than one guy if you don't use dried finger anon.
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>>164169423
Does anyone have that video with the guy in dark root forest talking about the buttefly guild or something like that and then his wife says something and it sounds like he's beating her up while yelling about the butterfly guild and how he's too "highspeed bro"?
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>>164169446
Is your password set to dsg? Because I'm still not seeing your sign
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>>164169391

Host if you can use Dried Finger.
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>>164169606
>>164169621
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>>164169584
The difference is that you got about 5 areas you can explore since the beggining of the game and the options only open up as you progress through the game. Dark Souls 3 locks you in one path until halfway through.
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>>164169616

Yes, it's in my top 5. >>164169137
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>>164169621
Connection error?
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>>164169606
>>164169648
Well don't I have egg on my face
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>>164169189
have archive key available from start and implement a wormhole from dancer to Irithyl

suddenly the game is nonlinear again
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>>164169918
I guess I'll just go to sleep. Good luck.
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anyone want to do a playthrough of all 3 games in order? ideally we'd use the same build across all playthroughs but whatever
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Guess the SoulsBorne game by its Fun graph.

(Demon's Souls not included)
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How do I get a weapon over +10 in DS1? I thought it was with chunks but I have one and I'm not seeing where I can do this. I'm at Andre and I've looked at both the modify and reinforce menus. What am I missing?
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>>164170301
S U R E but I'll have to think of some build that I can actually do through all three games.
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What are the top 3 covenants and the bottom 3 covenants across the whole series?
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>>164169793
Thank you m8!
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>>164170531
Very Large Ember
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>>164170472
1 is DS1 4 is DS3 2 is BB 3 is DS2
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>>164169735
You don't unlock several areas at the same time except at the end in 1. And that turned out shitty. Opening a lot of paths fucks up balancing, it happened in 1 and 2.
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>>164170646
Ah shit, forgot about embers. Thanks.
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>>164170472
3 is DaS 1
1 is DaS 2
2 is DaS 3
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Is the Way of White Corona still abject trash
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>>164170809

Yes.
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>>164170656
M8 you got none of them right.
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>>164168751
it's a good class in 3
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>>164170804
You got DS1 right
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About to take another crack at Scholar of the First Shekel. Considering an int build because I never, ever do those. Is this a bad idea if I'm just in it for the PVE?
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>>164170301
>>164170536
http://steamcommunity.com/id/crunchyfinn/
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>>164170472
3
2
1
BB
you have shit opinions though
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>>164171265
4/4 congrats you get a fuck you.
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>>164168601
I'm SL40 and have been invading at Cleansing Chapel bonfire for a while now. Not a ton of twinks or gank squads. You're pretty much guaranteed 1-3 phantoms though.
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>>164169137
They use English voices even in the Japanese version?
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>>164171265
What would that un-fun part in the middle of DS1 be?
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>>164171874
There are only English voices.
Have you ever wondered why subtitles are on by default?
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lads in DS1 I'm starting to see people stack head armor items, like have mother mask or what ever but with a knight helmet or some shit clipping with it.
How is this done? I'm assuming with CE.
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Is the next game in the series going to have more colors and textures?

I am not talking about making the game all fruity.
but god damn at least use different shades
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I dropped my petrified something and got a channeler's trident. Is it worth using? I started as deprived because I'm an indecisive fuck and didn't know what I wanted to play.
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>>164172086
got an example here
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>>164172086

Your hair works like a helmet. What you do is you just replace the hair style ID with an armour ID.
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>>164172362
oh sweet, thanks lad
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>>164172575
That actually looks baller
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Is fat roll in DS3 at 70% or 75%?
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>>164173591
70% as always
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best weapon for a quality build?
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Anyone on Steam DSIII want to duel? Getting bored of invading r1 spammers constantly. SL40 w/ +2 weapon.
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>>164173932

There's more than a dozen at least depending on what you want and what you're looking for.
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>>164174164
you may say that anon but I'm looking for the
B E S T
E
S
T
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>>164174393
Quality has the widest arsenal by far. Not just compared to other builds in DaS 3, but in any Souls game.
You could narrow it dow to five or so, but anything further than that is a matter of opinion and what you're up against.
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>>164174393

In that case Gargoyle Flame Spear or Washing Pole, or any of the top row picks in this list since they're all quality weapons anyway save Yhorm's.
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>summoning leeroy to do pinwheel super early for souls and mask
>4 times in a row he tries to one hand his weapon the entire time, bouncing off pinwheel
FUCK THE AI IN THIS GAME HOLY FUCK THIS IS OUT OF MY CONTROL
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>>164174756
>needing to summon for pinwheel even at low level
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>>164174623

>CCS and Sabre not in the highest tier

That tier list will always make me laugh.
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>>164154168
>>164154168
>>164154294

You only get 3 estus chugs, assuming you do all the exploration in majula, for the first 2-3 bosses.

Lifegems are limited because even though they are infinite they take a lot longer than estus to see any meaningful health gain. But, I would put that in the same category as "attempted" survival horror. Lifegems were supposed to replace estus flasks entirely, which would actually be really limiting to your health since you would have no way to quickly heal.
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>>164175252

>he still thinks CCS and Sabre are the better than Flame Spear let alone worthy of being the same tier as it

loving every laugh, there's a reason everyone dropped them like hotcakes
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>>164170301
Ready when you are.
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>>164174623
Claymore a best
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>>164151720
I'm fine with 92, but I tend to shield also. 96 or 99 is enough that you'll be satisfied.
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How is a spear or halberd build in SotFS? I'm getting tired of swords, but dislike ranged or blunt weapons.
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>>164152927
>>164153453

>thinking DS2 represents most people's Dark Souls experience

literally 10x more people play SOTFS.
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>>164153332
>>164152517
I doubt it, since from's netcode is the same in pretty much all their games, since Chromehounds when sega helped them develop it. They don't develop new online netcode, they just change how it is implemented into the game (it's always client side hit detection

The matchmaking server that Bandai Namco runs just pairs players up based on in-game metrics, and that includes bloodstains and messages. If you have those in the game, you might as well have invaders.
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>>164154294
I miss pursuer, if only because he was the biggest and most egregious armored core reference they had made so far
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>>164175587
Spears are repetitive, but halberds and Santier's Spear and fun as shit
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>>164155868
Boltstone does give you bonus from faith, you can see that in the prompt when you have the option to infuse, it will shift scaling from Str/Dex and move it to lightning scaling (which is faith based).

But you can use the enchantment ON TOP of that. The only thing infusions do not let you do is use resins.

In fact, the enchantments only provide ~65 more damage unless you have base lightning damage to begin with, which they will then multiply.

Infuse with lightning then use sunlight blade for max damage.
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>>164155968
The main thing is that SOTFS is always cheaper than DS2+DLC, and there's no reason to get DS2 without the DLC anyway.

They upgraded the graphics to Dx11, which made things much, much more optimized and efficient for newer computers.

There are 10x as many players online.

They moved some items around so players can access more areas in the game early on without having to level up / do risky jumps.
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>>164156136
Miracles suck in DS2 too, it was a nerf patch across the board because lightning damage was already so powerful.
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>>164175252
This isn't the AoA release, anon.
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So I just got invaded (and killed) for the first time in DS1 in Anal Rodeo and it just occurred to me, are the servers really that dead? I see a decent number of players and messages but never an invasion until now. I guess I'm just hollowed more often than not.
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>>164156762
Randomizing shit in game design is a bad, bad idea. It's more likely he'll end up appearing in a place that clips walls or breaks the game. And if he stops reappearing once you leave, what's the point?

So you either get a broken enemy that requires half the dev time to patch out, or a boring one that only appears in the same places.
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>>164176627
It's that dead
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>>164176627

DSCM?
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>>164176627
Yep. AL was, and is still, the most active area in DS1 along with the forest. So yes, DS1 is dead as shit
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>>164159039
From Software is convoluted
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>>164176671
Oh god... Guess we'll get to see everyone sperg out about this for at least the next 24 hours, eh? One of those (You)'s was from the CSS script that's been shared around but apparently the normal one is back now too.
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>>164162567
>hardest area in the game
>not using a torch
>broken ring
>key to the embedded

Just stop already
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>>164176954

Key to the Embedded's a legit weapon brah. Also why would he even need a torch in that area? It would just make things more blinding than they already are.
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>>164162567
>>164176954
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>>164163021
DS2 is easier than the other games, the "prepare2dielol" shit was just marketing and you fell for it.

The only thing making DS2 hard is if you play it with the same mentality as DS1. The stats are totally different.
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>>164177090
What mentality should DS2 be played with, compared to DS1? I haven't played it yet.
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>>164163273
Deadzone only applies to walking speed because people complained about not being able to walk in straight lines in DS1.

Which, honestly, is a fucking good decision. There's no point in the game, EVER, where you need 360 degree walking, but there are many points in the game where 4 directional walking only would help a lot.

DS1 should have had the deadzone, it would make anor londo less of a "lol look how hard this game is" shit.
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>>164163523
>>164163273


You get 8 directions with a large deadzone when crawling, so that you can walk along planks without falling because your joystick was slightly off.

You get full 360 movement when moving at normal speed.

The deadzone meme is just a meme.
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>>164177171
Have fun
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>>164164586
Magic is very powerful in DS2. It's very weak in DS3.

>>164165117
>>164166030
Pointless difficulty comes about because Dark Souls 2 has a completely different approach to optimization that Dark Souls 1 did, so people who tried to do Dark Souls 1 builds and tactics in DS2 thought it was "pointlessly difficult" because they were getting their ass handed to them for using what were now shitty builds.

>>164165623
>>164165390
Dark Souls 1:
>homogenous lighting, even bright places are dark
>hollows are mostly naked gross red-eyed monsters
>only a single linear path, deviation of which requires a special starting choice and creates massive difficulty spikes
>lots of frustratingly difficult areas (ToTG, Duke's Archives, Lost Izalith) that are fun, but impede progress
>bosses have lots of AoE attacks and grabs / 'gotcha' moments that punish people who are just playing casually on their 2nd+ playthrough, forcing you to be on edge for more of the game.
>no bonfire warping so you rarely get a chance to really rest.

Dark souls 2:
>really wide contrast range of lighting (if you set brightness properly) with lots of sunlight, flames, and bloom in most areas.
>hollows are mostly soldiers, warriors, etc. wearing full armor and hiding their bodies.
>most paths are available at the start of the game, you can simply buy the items needed at majula to access the others.
>Bosses don't have AoE or tracking attacks, so once you learn them they are a lot easier with less 'gotcha' moments than DS1.
>bonfire warping lets you stop and go back to majula, level up, relax, and try new things before having to go back to fight enemies.

These are mechanical decisions that make Dark souls 2 feel a lot comfier. Maybe not better, maybe not worse, but definitely comfier.
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>>164167098
Can make, and can be PvP viable, are different things.

The most powerful meta builds in DS2 are not much better in the hands of a skilled player than most other builds. This means that you aren't really rewarded a lot for using the same tactics constantly.

PvP in DS3 using anything other than R1 40/40 straightswords is giving yourself a handicap.

Dark Souls 2 was the only game with intentional PvP balance. The other games only adjusted PvP balance when people really complained about it being broken or they actually made errors.
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>>164178201
The weird control handling completely ruin any chance DS2 has of being comfy. It feels like I'm telling someone else which buttons to press instead of controlling the player directly. It has some improvements like less or no input buffering and free rolling while locked on, but it's not enough make up for how fucked up basic movement and combat is.
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>>164168096
>>164168674

Dark souls 2 is what was expected. It's literally what From Soft always does.

Dark Souls 3's references are them trying something crazy and new: a direct sequel

Dark Souls 3 does it better, but no one should be surprised that Dark Souls 2 didn't try to do that. It's not their style, it's not what they focus on, it's not what they like, and it's obvious that DS3 suffered content-wise in trying to make a more linear sequel to the first game.
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>>164169349
I think it's hilarious that as soon as 4chan removed (you)s all the DS2 hate dried up
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>>164138432
Is there an NPC summon for Aldrich? Nigga has been kicking my ass for an hour.
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>>164178754
Kek I hadn't noticed but I think you're right.
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>>164174623
How is DSS anyway? I didn't think it would be higher than DSSS, but I don't use it at all since its literally just an inferior GFS that shoots a bolt out the end of the dash attack.

>tpgs not high tier
>Anri's is high tier
>Exile CGS is the same tier as CCS
>CGS and CS being in the same column for no reason
>SB is mid but FJ is low
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>>164178845
Anri if you did her questline
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>>164178545
Complete opposite experience for me. DS1's controls are fickle and laggy as fuck. Basic movement and combat in DS2 feels much smoother and comfier. DS1 has no progressive input and feels like a PS1 game control-wise, getting the threshold right is awkward.

My one complaint about DS2's controls is that to do a jump attack or guard break you need to be standing still with the camera facing forward, you can't dead angle a jump attack.

Also, DS2 doesn't allow 360 angling of every weapon, which I like. It makes the weapons more diverse without relying on hackneyed /useless unique movesets. But that might also lead to controls feeling weird.
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>>164178713
what amazing shoulder rigging

>>164179017
that's a dude
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>>164178201
DaS2 is tedious, not "comfy"
and when it's not, it is just boring
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>>164148024
just don't fight him until way later. do Farron and cathedral first.
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>>164179159

Dragonslayer Spear is a great spear but like you said it's a worse GFS. It's shorter but to compensate it has higher physical damage and a better version of Charge.

TPGS is one of those on the edge cases imo.

Anri's still has terrific AR and innate regen on a Hollow/Quality build.

Exile has great weapon tier AR at a relatively faster speed and low stamian consumption.

Because there are barely any Curved Greatswords in the game.

Saint's Bident is one of the longest spears and only barely shorter than the Gargoyle Flame and does decent damage on a 27 STR/60 FAI build when infused with Heavy and buffed with DMB. Follower Javelin by contrast is one of the shortest spears, has slightly more delayed 2HR1s and a comparatively far worse WA than Charge despite being a single-stat weapon.
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>>164148024
you don't need any particular weapon, just keep popping his zits

he doesn't break the floor and grow his arm until you pop the middle cluster, you can break the ones on his hand and foot more easily if you do them first
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>>164177171
Forget most of what you know.

1. Explore everywhere, collect items.
2. Equipment > levels. The leveling up is there to support your build, not make whatever you are using more powerful, like in DS1.
3. Turn brightness down. There are a lot of dark torch sections and keeping the brightness up just ruins the experience.
4. Every stat matters, and you get punished for min-maxing. Always wear 4 pieces of armor, don't ignore a stat. You're supposed to distribute your stats more evenly, there are multiple softcaps for each stat too now, instead of just being at 40.
5. Builds can do multiple things now. You can pair any weapon with any element through infusions, and every element gets a buff and equal scaling.
6. The hardest stat to use is dex, because it does so little damage (40% less scaling than str) but it will increase your poison, so it is extremely effective for that.
7. You can always respec or undo your changes if you have the right items.
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>>164179319
what a nice meme.

DS1 is tedious. Every time I try to replay it I stop at anor londo because I know the game just goes to complete shit after that point.
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>>164179573
>explore everywhere
>implying dark souls 2 gives the player any incentive to explore
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>>164179768
DS1's second half is on par with the few fun areas in DS2
so whats the problem?
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>>164179847
>estus flasks shards
>sublime bone dust
>ornifex and straid
>pursuer encounters
>all 5 branches available at the start of the game without difficulty spikes
>hidden NPC questlines (lucatiel)
>summon signs hidden throughout the level
>entire areas behind illusory walls
>pharros lockstones and fragrant branches
>chests fucking everywhere
>+1 rings available if you just find NPCs and talk to them
>soul vessel for finding NPCs and bringing them back to majula
>the entire majula mansion quest and the flames

get your memes out of here
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What's the best way to finish off a host when you invade in DS3? I can often get a host low but then they just run away to estus and I can't chase because I don't have enough stamina after I combo them. Should I just buy shitloads of throwing knives and kukris?
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>>164179254
Was DS2 your first Souls game? I'd bet that taints our respective perceptions. I find myself constantly getting fucked over by that slight delay between hitting L1 and actually raising your shield that isn't there in DS1, as well as having to wait for your stamina to fully recover before you can start running again if it got depleted. Having to take my hand off the movement stick entirely to actually hit the enemy I'm locked onto and not swing at the wall I'm trying to maneuver around has been a constant source of frustration as well.

I also hate how you can't aim attacks at all. Trying to kill crystal lizards is fucking impossible with a claymore, because none of its attacks will hit the floor in front of you except twohanded rolling attack or a jump attack, and in such a time-sensitive situation, it's not easy to set either of those up and actually fucking hit the little bastard. It's a solid weapon in most actual combat situations, but I really miss those vertical twohanded R1s. Being unable to chain R2s into R1s is another heartbreaker, too. It seems to be an engine problem because no weapon can do this and it fucking sucks. How am I supposed to use a good variety of moves if I'm locked into mashing R2 as soon as I stop mashing R1?
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>>164179768
I'm in Anal Rodeo now. Why does it go to shit?
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Holy shit the final boss of the Snow DLC gives alot of souls,

i keep doing it in co op.
I can do this infinitely right?
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>>164180563
Some of the bosses and areas after Biggie and Smalls are pretty lame. Lost Izalith and in particular is shit and the devs apologised for it, as it was unfinished.
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>>164180224
>>all 5 branches available at the start of the game without difficulty spikes
How do you get the souls for silvercat ring to survive the fall down the well at the start of the game? Where do you find a Fragrant Branch of Yore to unpetrify Rosabeth at the start of the game? Fuck off with this meme, you can only go to Forest or Tower first and there's no Master Key equivalent that lets you do otherwise.
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>>164180224
yeah, you'll eventually stumble upon some of those
after "exploring" every area and hitting a dozen dead ends with nothing worthwhile at the end of the tunnel
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>>164180109
DS1's second half is on par wit the worse of DS2.

DS1 fun areas:
>Firelink (super comfy)
>Anor Londo (if you're a masochist and enjoy awkward platforming)
>New Londo Ruins (the ghosts are still legitimately terrifying against a low level build for me)
>Sen's Fortress (Lots of collectibles and traps, first mimic, great experience)
>Great Hollow/Ash Lake (neither one is good enough to count on their own, but together they are fun)
>Darkroot Garden (great atmosphere, forest covenant,
>Darkroot basin (excellent, challenging, early accessible, havel, hydra,
>Duke's Archives / Crystal Caves (again, only if you're a masochist, but I did like the scenery.)
>Catacombs (good pyromancer and switch mechanics, plenty of interesting exploration)
Everything else is forgettable or extremely frustrating.
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>>164181198

DS2 fun areas:
>Majula (hub world with explorables and unlockables? No way!)
>Iron Keep (Love all the aesthetic, lava that doesn't burn your eyes out, lots of challenge and reward, multiple paths to complete and the difficult walking sections are optional unlike anor londo)
>Drangleic Castle (probably my favorite level in the franchise. Not knowing which statues will unpetrify, the constant rain and dark areas, king's gate, Looking Glass Knight,
>FFG (really expansive and varying enough to keep coming back to in mid-game, flame salamanders, both pursuer encounters, NG+ phantoms,
>Lost Bastille (first pursuer re-encounter, prisons, multiple optional paths to open, lots of illusory walls, exploding barrels and flame arrow archers)
>Sinner's Rise (especially on NG+. Every cell has a monster in it, pyromancers, lighting the oil, and a great boss)
>Heide's Tower (not a very interesting map, but good enemy placement and a good tutorial on rolling that DS1 never had)
>Belfry Luna (good co-op idea, way better to give the gargoyles their own area than undead parish's giant linear path)
>Earthen Peak (more traps/mechanisms/secrets per foot than any game in any souls series, excellent co-op place)
>Doors of Pharros (lockstones and mastodons and gavlan)
>Undead Crypt, (leydia sorcerors, bells, torch mechanics)
>Aldia's keep (bone dragon, cages, acid pit)
>Dragon aerie (DRAGONS, FINALLY FUCKING DRAGONS. Ziplines. Crystal lizards.)
>Dragon Shrine (another masochist level, but the dragons only fighting you if you try to run from the drakekeeper's was a brilliant idea.)
Everything else is really boring and "meh".

But DS2 also has a lot of really terrible bosses and maps whereas the rest of DS1's areas are just "meh". A lot of the best D S1 levels are only fun because they are frustrating, like Duke's Archives, New Londo, or Anor Londo.
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Can someone tell me how many soul signs are you seeing at dark souls 2's bridge right now? Just got back into the game but I'm seeing 1~3 at the very best and the game has been pretty empty for me. I'm wondering if something in my pc might have triggered From's shitastic ban system.
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>>164180685
>OH MY GOD 13 K SOULS NOOO
>I have to make dragonrider slide into the water!!! 10 or less minutes of gameplay after Majula, NOT THE START OF THE GAME!!!
>fuck off with this meme

Pedantic as fuck lol.
I mean you have to get the crooked nun first to get the rondula key anyway, doesn't change that Majula is open as fuck early as fuck.

Your gates are a yore or silvercat, and you can buy a yore from the hag or buy silvercat and get a yore instantly at the pits too.

Y'all fags need to stop argueing pointless shit because it's clearly biased as fuck. I mean Christ I think I saw a post praising DS2 graphically.
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had a bigger break from the game and wanted to play again. however the game crashes most of the time during launching. the "fixes" that google does com up with dont really help. i cant be the only one with the issue.

anyone got a reliable fix?

been playing over 80 hours just fine but now after the break this happens...
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>>164181303
I thought the Undead Crypt was amazing the first time I went through it. Same with the foggy wood with the phantoms.
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>>164181487
>13k souls can only be obtained feasibly that early in the game by killing a boss
>go through an entire area before you can access other paths
Yeah, that's not being able to go anywhere at the start of the game. You can go to Forest or Tower and that's it. Those are your only options. If you have some way of getting 13k souls without going to Forest or Tower from Majula, I'm all ears.
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>>164180337
DS1 was my first souls game, after years of playing metal gear and armored core. I didn't really find it that enthusing or enthralling and it sort of felt like a janky / poorly developed fantasy game to me, but was fun. I really liked sen's fortress, I didn't like darkroot until my second playthrough. Everything before capra demon felt like an on-rails tutorial to me. It felt like 3 boring experiences for every 1 -awesome- experience, which is what I expect out of from software.

DS2 was the first game where I really thought the series deserved the praise it got. I liked a majority of the game, I don't think it has as many memorable parts as DS1, but I go back and replay it constantly because there are so few areas that I dislike. It's more fun to optimize, it's less about leveling up and more about your playstyle, too, which I appreciate. To be fair, everything before No Man's wharf felt like a tutorial in DS2 also, but it lasted a lot shorter and had a lot more content afterwars.
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If you need help on boss on Xbone, tell where and what time
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>>164181797
Start w/ a soul item and clear Betwixt. Sell pickups, kill merchant, kill crestfallen, kill Benhart and mobs. You can level for HP to survive fall dmg or get the ring.

Technically you could also CoC and kill the guys near Benhart, but that's being silly.
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>>164180685
>>164181487
>getting 20,000 souls is now considered an impossible difficulty spike.

You buy the branch for 7500 and the silver cat ring for 13400.

How is that more difficult than the insane difficulty spikes of the skeletons, drakes, ghosts, or Hydra/Havel? DS1 really doesn't want you to deviate from the path, but SOTFS actively encourages it. You can also just buy the silver cat ring and get the other branch in the pit in vanilla DS2.

>>164180725
So you like the skryim form of exploration where every time you take a wrong turn you get showered with loot?

DS2 has very few actual dead ends (there's one unused room in no man's wharf, I can't remember any else) they just don't give you tons of items every time you reach the end of a room. Hitting dead ends and stumbling across items is literally what exploration is. DS1's items might as well have glowing neon signs saying "RARE SPECIAL ITEM LOCATED HERE". DS2 is an objectively worse game than DS1 in many metrics, but it's also a lot more explorable, which was my point.

DS1 feels more constrained and less comfy because deviating from the main path feels like you're doing something the developers didn't want you to do. and that was the statement that started this whole chain.
Also, DS1 makes your character more powerful across the board based purely on SL, which was a way to force players to stay at the 'recommended level' for each area. Ds2 doesn't do that, if you don't level up certain stats, you don't get physical defense bonuses. I like that a lot more.
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How do you even backup and restore your DS2 characters without getting softbanned?
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>>164182342
Backing up and restoring is fine, as long as you don't restore cheated characters. Just copy the save file located in C:\users\(username)\AppData\Roaming\DarkSoulsII

The only things that get you softbanned are editing your save file so that it seems like invalid data. Changing your characters name, covenant, spawning items, adjusting soul memory, etc. Some people get away with it for years, some people get banned within a week.
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>>164182340
But you can deviate from the path if you're good enough to handle the spikes. DS2 forces you to grind out souls if you want to kill something besides Last Giant or Dragonrider first.
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>>164182531
>Backing up and restoring is fine, as long as you don't restore cheated characters.
Be less obvious with your bait.
This is "delete system32" tier.
I have gotten soft banned on DS2 after restoring my save, I'm not doing the same thing on sotfs.
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>>164182305
>>164181797
I think the point wasn't that all the areas were LITERALLY available from the start, but that they were a whole lot easier to reach without raising the game's difficulty.

Everywhere except the main pain in DS1 is a lot harder, and feels like the devs don't want you to go there yet and you're just getting a "preview". But when you do unfreeze rosabeth in the first hour of gameplay, you don't feel like you stumbled onto a super hard area. It spawns a few enemies that might kill you the first time but they can be taken out easier than Havel or the skeletons, the latter of which you can't even kill without kicking off the ledge...
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>>164181198
>>164181303
>being this much of a DS2 apologist
your points have no real argument, its just "its good because i like it better"
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>>164182340
Getting 20,000 is a challenge at the start of the game. You either farm hollows at forest of fallen giants for an hour or advance properly through the game until 20,000 spare of souls becomes reasonably achievable. Meaning that path is not available at the begging of the game, it's only available when the games decides you deserve to earn enough souls.
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>>164182750
As opposed to "its bad because I don't like it".
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>>164182870
exactly
see >>164181198 for a fine example
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phantom hits make these games completely unenjoyable pvp wise
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>>164181303
>dragon knights bow to you but only if you 1v1 the drakekeepers thus proving that you are worthy of meeting the ancient dragon
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>>164182697
How is that different from being forced to kill asylum demon?

The DS2 hate around here is so strong that some people will ignore reality just to claim that the game did nothing better or differently than DS1.
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>>164183216
*unzips
1v1 THIS ;)
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>>164182735
Maybe I'm thinking of SOTFS, not just DS2, but copying your save files is perfectly acceptable and recommended by bandai namco as long as you are using the same steam account for the save file.

Go search google, everyone else says the same thing, but maybe they're all baiting you too.
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>>164183659
>tfw the world is out to get me
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>>164183531
>>164182870
>>164182750
>>164183148

let us never forget
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>>164180169
hes probably loaded

i feel bad for him, hes gonna get alimony cucked for a 5/10
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>>164181303
>Iron Keep (Love all the aesthetic

Stopped reading there. This is some of the lowest effort baits I have ever seen, holy shit, you lack ambition.
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>>164183771
Why do you need to copy your saves?
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>>164184071
Need to format my computer.
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>>164183974
>calling opinion bait

I legitimately love Iron Keep's style. I would take a souls game entirely in Iron Keep and Drangleic Castle. It's one of the better levels in DS2, so it deserves a place on that list.
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>>164183974
>my post isn't a bait post because I called someone else's post bait

This is some of the lowest effort baits I have ever seen, holy shit, you lack ambition

Hitler did nothing wrong, this isn't bait because I'm calling you out on your bait.
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>>164184247
>>164184342
At least try. Nor only the timing is really giving it away but the post format too. You really have zero ambition.
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>>164181584
help please. the solutions i googled for didnt help.
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>>164184420
how many replies do you need to cum? I'm just trying to get you out of here as soon as possible
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>>164185678
get yourself that dsfix
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What level should I be before so I can breeze through ng+?

I just want to get the remaining achievements
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>>164186119
Maybe you should check on your ice kingdom first, Elsa.
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>>164186119
LET
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>>164186412
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>>164186119
Level doesn't really matter much, it depends on your equipment, leveling up just lets you equip better stuff.

NG+ starts off at about the same difficulty as the DLC.

You should be leveling up your weight cap, all that health means nothing if you don't have any damage reduction from armor.

If you want breeze past NG+, I would use a soul vessel and respec like this.

Make sure all your armor is +10 (or +5 if it used twinkling titanite). If you want to REALLY breeze past, infuse your weapon with lightning and trade some stats from Str and End and put it into Fth, and start using healing miracles.
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>>164186868
>>164186119

Forgot the image.

Also, by this:
>Level doesn't really matter much, it depends on your equipment, leveling up just lets you equip better stuff.

I mean that if your stats don't match your weapon and armor, then the stats are wasted.

No weapon that benefits from 50 strength also benefits from 32 dex except for fume UGS. Having high HP is pointless if you have no defense. Having 53 weight cap is pointless if you can't be under 50. Having high strength and dex means nothing if your weapon isn't fully upgraded. etc.

You're at Level 169 but your stats will make it feel like level ~120 or lower.
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>>164187058
>FUCKING

here's the pic fuck

>no one uses 4chan for its intended purpose anymore anyway
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>>164187183
>he fell for the 32 ADP meme
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>>164187183
I usually have 92-96 agility, which is 15-20 ADP.

32 ADP is 105 agility. That is usually too high for me, but since the person asking the question has fucking 40 ADP, convincing them to go down to 92 agility is probably a bad idea because the won't know how to roll anymore.
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>>164187613
in response to
>>164187267
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Old Wolf Curved Sword: good or bad?
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>>164188137

It's firmly 'alright.'
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DaS III > DaS I > DaS II

Dark Souls II is just too casul. You can level up forever without worrying about pvp, you will never have difficulty with enemies past the Heidi knights, the combat is slow and enemies just turtle.

Dark souls 1 only suffers from being the first game in the series and oldness. However little thought was given towards balance (getting 1shotted by hex).

Dark 3 has superb combat ALTHOUGH considering your stamina never really depletes PVP just becomes "who has the best buff on the rapier and can roll".
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why are whips so shit in these games
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>>164189430
Casual doesn't make it bad.

The lazy reused texture graphics, lack of decent AI, fucked up lighting, botched release, development hell, the quantity > quality approach, boring individual levels and repeated bosses from DS1 that made it bad.

But 8/10 vs 9/10 are both good games.
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>>164179017
degenerate furfaggot
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>>164157863
I don't fanatically hate DS2 stuff but seeing as they kept the base game relatively clean of DS2 lore I think it would be really stupid to add DS2 elements now.
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>>164190018
>repeated bosses from DS1
only two, and they are optional
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>>164171979
Probably the moment you get the Lordvessel and have to do Lost Shizalith.

>>164170472
2 = DS2 because of the varying quality of the maps.

3 = DS1 because of the midgame slump.

1= DS3 due to the weak earlygame, decent levels like CotD / Irithyll followed by shit like Propaned and Anor Londo and then the last part of the game in Lothric Castle picks up again.

4 = BB because it's constantly good.
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>>164190324
Every boss isn't a generic giant.

Or >fucking rats

Sif, Ornstein, Gargs, Najka (=quelaag), Magus and congregation (Pinwheel), Sinh, et cetera. Not too far of a stretch.

I liked how there were man the boss fights, but they were not creative.
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>>164191249
Is*
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Christ these things are vicious
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>>164189430
>first game in the series
That would be Demon's Souls.

>>164181303
>liking Doors of Pharros and Undead Crypt
Fotfg and Lost Bastille are imo the best levels out of all of those.
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>>164191496
>oh look, more pink chumps, ho hu-
>FUCKFUCKFUCK
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>>164144516

Do people even bother with this arena or is it just as dead as dark souls 1's arena was?
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>>164180169
>good content creator and overall nice guy enb gets JUSTed by a whore wife after being subjected to a nightmare of red jellies irl for 2 years
>this salty and annoying fat spic cunt has a cute gf
Fuck I hope he gets beheaded by the cartel and pointed down irl. Yukas might be the only pillar aside from DreadedSJW that I genuinely hate.
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>>164191758
Nobody bothered with the DaS1 arena because it was a flat piece of shit and you could just invade in Townshit if nobody was summoning you.
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>tfw visor will forever be stuck
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>>164192008
There are mods that make it closed iirc.
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>>164192008
Honestly, what with the Balder Armor missing like 3 layers of under-armor, the visor being raised is the least of your problems.

Unless you work at some specialty medieval strip-joint.
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>>164178201
>hollows are mostly wearing armor
Stop right there.
DaS2 put a ton of those naked unarmed hollow guys all over the areas and they were super pathetic.

>bonfire warping
Ruined not only 1 game, but 2 games.
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>>164192813
>DaS2 put a ton of those naked unarmed hollow guys all over the areas and they were super pathetic.

You mean the torch holders and hidden invisible hollows?

The only time they were put in the game was to either let you farm a torch where it was needed, silky stones for Dyna/tillo, or to activate the bell mechanisms in undead crypt.

Huntsman's copse might have a few, but they're not nearly as prevalent as in DS1.
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>>164192998
>Huntsman's copse might have a few
They put them in the Undead Crypt, all over Harvest Valley. And The Gutter.

Either way, DS1 has those, and DeS had the slave soldiers in world 1.
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>>164191249
not to mention the dull arenas for most of these fights
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>>164181303
>Iron Keep
>Sinner's Rise
>Belfry Luna
>Earthen Peak
>Doors of Pharros

>good, in any sense of the word
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>>164192008
i've tried to make a closed helm variation by tweaking the textures of the giant helm, but it looked like total ass
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Why does DS3 have the least interesting items and armors of the series, yet feels the most polished?
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Why can't the Four-Pronged Plow be good lategame?
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>>164195276
What do you mean by that? What makes an item or armor interesting in the first place?
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>>164195435
Being unusual, fun, strange looking etc.

Most of DS3's design is pretty bland compared to DS2 and DS1. And the things that are interesting are either copies of something else (GSoJ weapon art) or totally ineffective.

For example, in DS1 a lot of enemies dropped armor items even if you didn't expect them to, gargoyles dropping their helmet, boars dropping theirs, etc.

DS2 is at fault in a similar way when it comes to acquiring certain items since most of it is done through repetitive farming. Whereas in DS1 it was more interesting to cut tails off of bosses, find secret areas, and so on.
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>>164195748
>For example, in DS1 a lot of enemies dropped armor items even if you didn't expect them to
that's in 3 too, kinda. the manservants who dont wield the great machete drop it, while smoldering ghrus who wield it dont
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Does /dsg/ still host fight clubs and tournaments? I haven't been here since may
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>>164196097
II meant more along the lines of getting armor/weapons from enemies that aren't humanoid

but yeah, I know what you mean with that. I think that's more of a drop-table thing than an explicit design decision.
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>create new character
>proceed to die 5 times in a row to vordt when he had less than a single hit of health each time
Its time to give up
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>>164196220
Fight clubs yes
I haven't seen any tournaments lately though
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>>164195748
I really don't feel strongly one way or another in regards to the unique or odd armor and weapons, but you make a really good point about farming.

The massive increase of equipment locked behind getting loot drops is one of those things that makes DaS2/3 significantly more irritating to play compared to DaS1 where there are probably less than five items that come to mind that require lengthy and annoying farming to obtain, plus there are those instances where you can farm for an item early on, or progress a bit and find it as pre-placed treasure or in a merchant stock.

Although all of that is really a self-inflicted problem because I feel super inclined to collect everything on any character in these games.
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>>164195384
>Four-Pronged plow
>5 prongs
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>>164196428
Yeah, it's not very fun at all.

DS2 was definitely the worst offender. I'm not sure if it was fixed with SotFS but not being able to see your item discovery + incredibly low drop rates + enemies perma-dying and needing to burn ascetic to get the back was pure cancer.
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>>164195748
>Most of DS3's design is pretty bland compared to DS2 and DS1
DS2 designs were fucking atrocious, some were reeking from western design with those enormous oversized WoW-esque pauldrons or comically oversized weapons like KUGS which may as well be the ugliest weapon in series.
DS1 and 3 designs are pretty similar though DS3 goes over the top sometimes with things like a fucking super saiyan wig but saying that it's different design-wise from DS1 is retarded.
>And the things that are interesting are either copies of something else
Welcome to souls series.
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>>164196594
>I'm not sure if it was fixed with SotFS
They made Insolent Set farm-only.
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>Lives in the Dark
>Has giant eyes

That's not how evolution works
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>>164197070
that's not eyes
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>>164195153
>I don't know how to defend my opinion so I'm just going to say you're wrong and pretend it's obvious
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>>164197138
They're like an angler fish lure?
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oi since when are (You)'s back?
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>>164197070

>>164197590
probably nerve gas glands
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>>164196594
>>164196972

See attached.

Item drops are fine (and often far less rare than they were in DS1), but they become terrible if you deliberately try to farm by spamming rusted coin or killing the same enemies constantly instead of going onto NG+ or burning an ascetic.

Basically "Try to farm the enemies? You get nothing, unless they're much harder to fight"

SOTFS also fixed watchdragon parma (which previously didn't have an effect).

Insolent and Monastery set (the "hardest" to farm) are actually the proper way to farm in DS2, they spawn multiple enemies only once. You get 11 shots at the insolent set and you get 1 shot at the Monastery Guardian with a guarantee drop of at least 1 part of the set. If you were able to kill them multiple times it wouldn't work. That's why the Heide Iron Mask was so goddamn impossible to farm in DS2 but was made an easy to find item in SOTFS.

In both cases, a few bonfire ascetics or NG+ runs and you can have the whole set, which is the entire point of DS2's farming system. Don't try to farm, just play the game and you'll get all the items faster.

It's not a great system, but it's not as confusing or awful as people talk about it. I can at least see what they were trying to do.
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friede stage 1: a normal world where the fire fades
stage 2: the first sin
stage 3: the usurpation of fire / true age of man
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Why can straigtswords chain a r2 with an r1?
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>>164196594
>DS2 was definitely the worst offender.
I remember spending more time farming channelers trident or balders straight sword than any of DaS2's rare equipment. Not to mention titanite slabs. In DaS2 you can just pick up infinite with ascetics. In DaS1 it was faster to do NG+ than farm dark wraiths. Just to upgrade shit for fucks sake. And this shit doesn't even compare to DeS's pure bladestone bullshit.
Your nostalgia goggles are cum speckled.
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>>164199654
Apparently you never farmed the NG+ phantoms in DS2.
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>>164181303
>Dragon Shrine (another masochist level, but the dragons only fighting you if you try to run from the drakekeeper's was a brilliant idea.)
>Drangleic Castle (probably my favorite level in the franchise. Not knowing which statues will unpetrify, the constant rain and dark areas, king's gate, Looking Glass Knight,

these things are SOTFS only. Vanilla DaS2 you need to fight against all the drakekeepers + the dragon guys. In Drangleich Castle they weren´t stone figures just normal enemies standing there.

Oh Undead Crypt:
Vanilla:
>Kill bell guy or kill 1000 of magic/pyromancie ghosts
>Kill 7 guys who chill before Velstadt
>repeat until no one is there and fight against velstadt

SOTFS:
>3Bell guys
>2Normal enemies
>1 not spawning mini-boss

SOTFS was the best thing that could ever happen to souls 2. But it also has its downsides with the navallan quest.
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>>164199654
>I remember spending more time farming channelers trident or balders straight sword than any of DaS2's rare equipment
that just meant you had bad luck. both of these had respawning enemies that dropped them. try to farm the warlock mask or the monastery set
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>>164200362
Or the Mad Warrior set
Holy fuck that was awful
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>>164199654
>anything in series at all
>comparable to non-respawnable DS2 red phantoms with ridiculously low drop rates
by the time i got full monastery set i was on like ng+80 and that's with max luck gear
eat shit faggot
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>>164196310
HOW
O
W

>>164196220
FCs are organized by discord circlejerkers so try to get in the discord.
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>>164200362
>both of these had respawning enemies
You can respawn any enemy in DaS2 thanks to ascetics. Try getting Greatsword of Artorias, Greatsword of Artorias (Cursed) and the Greatshield of Artorias in DaS1. That's NG++ just for an Artorias Cosplay.
Not to mention you only need one character in DaS2 thanks to respecs.
You guys are blowing this out of proportion.
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I swear

I usually don't die often

But as soon as I reverse my hollowing I die within 15 seconds
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>>164201186
Exclusive items like slabs and boss items should be like that. A random set from some enemy should not be anywhere near as hard as it is to farm in DS2.
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>>164201186
Ascetics were a bandaid on the open festering wound that was the idea of despawning mobs which was a shit idea and pandered mostly to casuals who couldn't finish the game areas.

BUT ASCETICS LMAO is a crummy excuse for shit drop rates, especially since per every NG cycle the enemies take longer to kill.
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Why doesn't every phantom use ccs + carthus rouge online?

You do want your host to win as fast as possible with little risk right?
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>>164201186
great, now the whole area is on the next ng AND i have to farm the ascetics. not stupid at all. and the soul of sif/soul of nameless king made you go up to ng++ at most. for guaranteed drops. in ds2 you had to go on the next ng in that area for a CHANCE to get the desired item.
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>>164201264
DS2?

>>164201395
I'm here to have my own fun, the host can go fuck himself if he thinks I'm obligated to be efficient.

Then again, I tend to wait for a 2v2 if invaded and then black crystal out to leave the host to deal with a 2v1 so lol.
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>tfw you want to praise the sun but your paycheck won't let you
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>>164201559
le braze xD
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>>164201559
which game?
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Anyone else looking forward to Ni-Oh? I suppose it is somewhat Souls-like and the trailers and shit I watched, it seems quite promising.
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>>164201979
The third one in the Dark Souls series
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>>164202051
it has virtually nothing in common with souls aside from respawn checkpoints
combat is ninja gaiden + onimusha and feels extremely fun and fluid when you understand how flux works
faggots crying about dodge spam in ds3 are going to cry with bloody tears there because low stance dodges cost literally zero stamina
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Can you make a moon man in DS3 with CE ?
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>>164201432
>equip company of champions
lmao enemies are spawning infinitely and don't tell me that's bad because this makes the game harder, you pussy
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>>164202363
>equip COC
>now all enemies take twice as long to die which slows farming even more
Stop defending shit mechanics.
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>>164202480
If 20% damage reduction is that much for you then consider suicide my man.
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>>164153026
>That Webm
>Nearly dead blue
>Hail mary parry
>Hornet ring
lol u rit
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Why didn't FROM put poise into DS3? It would have been undeniably the best PvP in the series.
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>>164202363
CoC is alright but I'm happy BB and DS3 threw a lot of DS2's mechanics into the dustbin.
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I really hope they add a dual wield lance in the next dlc. PS lance build was the only thing that made DkS 2 fun for me as far as weapon move sets goes. I beat off to Forte's lances anytime i play gbf. [Spoiler] someone please help me
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I'm a new player, I got cursed in the depths right before the big boss fight wit the dragon. What can I do to get rid of curse or am i just screwed?
I want to reverse hollowing to summon solaire
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>>164202363
>>164201432
>>164201186

DS2 didn't pander to casual players, it punished DS1 'git gud' mindset players heavily.


Dark Souls 2 doesn't seem to be made for casuals, to me, it seems more like they were trying really hard to punish invaders/twinks/OP builds from dark souls 1, with the side effect of making it seem more casual.

>You want to farm equipment and weapons? FUCK YOU, drop rates decrease each time you kill them, multiple coins will lower your drop rate, and you need to do NG+ to keep farming.
>You like invading people and twinking? FUCK YOU, No full eye orb, you have to use red sign and be a consensual invader. Otherwise, stick to duels.
>You like running around naked at low equip rate? FUCK YOU, you get dogshit defenses naked and there's extremely diminishing returns below 50% cap.
>You like getting super overleveled early on to have OP defenses? FUCK YOU, leveling up doesn't increase all defenses anymore, and damage gains are weaker than weapon upgrades.
>You like upgrading tons of weapons and armor all the way at the start of the game to make it super easy? FUCK YOU, titanite is limited and upgrading too much will trash your soul memory.
>You like getting the best equipment in early game? FUCK YOU now it's behind bonfire intensity 2, get ready for anal pounding if you want to get the best equipment.

Some things even went further with this but were toned back through patches (lack of agape ring and decent NPC summons in vanilla DS2)
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>>164203259
>>164201186
>>164202480
>>164202363

Killing more than once lowers the drop rate.

Covenant of champions and bonfire ascetic doesn't reset the drop rates for normal enemies (ascetic does for phantoms) Only NG+ resets drop rates. Covenant of champions is only useful for farming after the mobs have been despawned and you don't want to go onto NG+ without the item.

DS2's system works really well except for the few red phantoms with random drops, for which it works awful.

Just like how soul memory works really well except for when you want to buy upgrade equipment to get a new weapon or die often and lose souls, then it's works awful.

It's a case of good concept and bad execution / bad oversight.
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>>164203474
i like how i got a (you) but had nothing to do with topic
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>>164202810
Poise is in DS3. DS3 uses DS2's poise system but just rebalances it to be even better by giving certain weapons a poise multiplier and fixing the brokenly slow poise regeneration that DS2 had.
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>>164203554
I mean actual poise. Not this pseudo-poise bullshit that currently exists. Poise should work outside of attacks and shouldn't be broken by a straight sword when in full heavy armor.
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>>164202760
I messed up first parry on his seizure move and took one running attack later, I think.
All this guy was spamming was L1 like 99% people using this shitty weapon so he got fucked. Anyway why you're replying to 14 hour old post.
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>>164203528
I clicked the wrong reply

You can get the curse removed with a Purging Stone.
>Sold by Oswald (NPC in the bell tower by the gargoyles)
>Sold by undead merchant (NPC in lower undead burg)
>Trade Cracked Red Eye Orb with Snuggly
>Dropped by the giant clams
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>>164202363
>ds2babs in charge of knowing their own game
CoC only allowed respawning enemies to continue respawning after the 12th death. once-per-ng enemies needed an ascetic. you will notice that the the problem is about once-per-ng enemies, like red phantoms
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>>164203670
Poise DOES work outside of attacks.

I'm not exactly sure on the mechanics of DS3 but in DS2 you could shrug off attacks while not using hyperarmor, the threshold was just really low. If you had 160 poise you could get hit by most 1H weapons at least once and the worst you suffer is slightly slowed down walking speed.
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>>164203683
nvm, the dragon is a total pushover. thanks though
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When is official DS3 OST?
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oh boy hollowslayer greatsword is comfy as heck

it's like a claymore but better
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>>164204135
When you go to your steamapss and find mysterious folder called Dark Souls III
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>>164203474
It was a dumb concept in the first place.
I liked going around and killing mobs while waiting for co-op.

With ds2 they artificially limited my fun by making the enemies limited spawns which was stupid.

I'm glad BB and DS3 moved away from that trash game and only incorporated the good parts.
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>>164205286
>only incorporated the good parts
(You)
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>>164205286
See:
>>164203375

A lot of DS2's decisions seemed to be made to keep you playing the normal game and not 'stopping' for PvP or PvE until you've done everything the game had to offer.

This was a bad idea, because it only works when the single player is extremely compelling, like BB was.
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>>164205387
>>164205286
>No practical dual wielding, just gimmick weapons
>no bonfire ascetics to respawn bosses
>no meaningful torch sections
>no more careful stamina management for rolls
>linear map, no more branching paths
>fewer weapons, and even more useless ones because of the dominant DLC weapons

Dark Souls 3 is better than DS2 but god damn they fucked some stuff up again.
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>>164204546
Well it's animations are based on historically accurate moves you can pull off with a big sword instead of the animation the rest of greatswords got which is just slamming your sword on the ground like a retard.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYNy_drriXs
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>>164205993
Miyazki
>"Oh uh, yeah. Historically accurate. Exactly. We totally intended that from the start. Yep."
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>>164205768
Covenants in DaS3 are such a let down compared to DaS2. Not even a single pve covenant (don't tell me way of blue because you don't even get any rewards from it) and 2 covenants having the same purpose.
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>All of these motherfuckers arguing over DaS2
>Ignoring the changes made in SotFS adressing the weaknesses
Into the trash your opinion goes
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>>164205768
How can DaS3 be better when the shitty gameplay keeps people from playing?
Even the professional streamers at Soulbrandt won't touch DaS3(or BB) despite their income depending on it.
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>>164206294
Darkmoon is a PvE covenant.
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>>164206174
In DaS2 greatswords used these animations or wide horizontal swings. That game was actually trying to do weapons of that size right. DaS3 took a step back and reused shitty animations from DaS1 for most.
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>>164206436
Because the replay ability of these games is either pvp or invasions
BB broken netcode means no invasions, and the pvp is over in a few hits because that game allows for broken pvp builds, yeah skill builds get an innate hornet ring effect.
DaS3 is gank and poise fun with 2-3 weapons being the meta. Fun.
So the streamers could go to BB, and spend most of their time waiting for an invasion or pvp for a 30-45 second fight if no heals, or they can pvp in DaS3 with Hollowslayer and GTFS, boy I wonder why they stopped.
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What the fuck, I didn't get invaded a single time yet, but as soon as I enter anal londo fucking aldritchfag keep popping up left and right
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>>164206646
Did DaS1 have this?
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>>164206425
SOTFS didn't fix all of DS2's weaknesses, or even most of them. It did solve some things, though.

>>164206436
It's better from a 'critic's' production quality view. I think that DS3 if it had DS2's tech, deadlines, and budget would be worse though. DS3 has more creativity and effort and sheer money being thrown at it, resulting in a better game.

But DeS/DS1 are both janky pieces of shit but are still remembered very fondly.

This is my opinion:

Influence/Creativity:
DeS > DS1 > BB > DS2 > DS3

Atmosphere/Experience:
DS3 > BB > DeS > DS1 > DS2

Content/Replay ability:
DS2 > DS1 > DS3 > DeS > BB

Gameplay / Mechanics
BB > DS3 > DS2 > DS1 > DeS

Multiplayer / Balance
DS2 > DS3 > DS1 > BB > DeS

Production Quality:
BB > DS3 > DS2 > DeS > DS1
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>>164206873

no but it had this
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>>164206971
DS2 hat absolutely awful production quality. That game had PS2-tier texture work in many areas.
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>>164205768
Reminder that dual wielded weapons in DS2 had roughly half of possible moves paired weapons in DS3 have. No unique rolling/running attacks, single l2, only two l1s. Nobody used powerstance in pvp ever either, it was just an excuse to keep a longsword or estoc in left hand and that was thankfully removed from series.
Reminder that bonfire ascetics is a shoddy attempt of balancing an overload of farming and finite enemies, both of which are utterly terrible decisions.
Reminder that DS2 advertised torches like one of the main mechanics yet they aren't used for 90% of the game and dark sections are too bright for ever needing to sacrifice a hand for them.
Reminder that stamina is literally a non-issue in DS2 because the game is like 3 times as slow as DS3, going past 20 END was only needed for specialized builds, everyone else could just stop there because all bosses and enemies are so goddamn slow you can deplete your stamina and none of them will be able to punish you if you simply move forward or to the side a little.
Reminder that actual level design in DS2 is utter garbage and probably the worst in all Fromsoft games since Shadow Tower Abyss, which, hilariously, is made by Tanimura as well.
Reminder that quantity over quality is an extremely bad thing and DS3 should've gone Bloodborne's way with less weapons but higher detalization of them though generally it has way more unique things than DS2 arsenal ever had and AoA weapons are incomparably more fun than any DS2 DLC weapons.
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>>164206971

After doing those ratings, I realized that Souls sequels only get better in production quality and gameplay mechanics, but are inconsistent in balance, atmosphere, content, and creativity.

This makes a lot of sense. The more money they throw at these games, the more nuanced the mechanics can get and the higher the graphics and production quality can be, But when it comes to everything else, that varies a lot and they're constantly making mistakes or going too far in one direction to be consistent.
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>>164206873
Actually it did. Just checked with falchion and it look pretty much the same.
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>>164207064
>had
>what is entirety of forest of the fallen giants

i love ds2 but holy fuck, that entire castle looks like a rip from some old ps2 game
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>>164206971
DS2's production quality is a complete dogshit. They remade entire game in less than a year and it ended up having so much unused content and reshuffled, low-quality assets it leaves even DS1 far behind.
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>>164206971
>>164138593

these kind of lists are autistic and cringe don't do them please you look like a massive fool
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>>164207048
>db munching fucktard with DMB gets analhilated
And the problem is?
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>>164207604
>And the problem is?
That DS1 lets you have 99 blessings and other curatives which stalls the fights and backstabbing was ridiculously easy.
>>
Ds3 has the best replayability because of well placed weapons/spells, and fluent movement/combat. I don't care what kind of shortcuts you have, if the gameplay is sluggish and some parts of the game are a bore to go through I won't be making multiple characters in that game.
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>>164207749
backstabbing is one of the best things about ds1 as it has a shitload of techniques revolving around it which made possible to separate shit players from good ones, judging by that webm you're a shit one and got rightfully punished for abusing DB
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>>164207196
DS2 power stance:
>R1
>L1
>R2
>L2
>roll R1
>roll L1
>Backstep R1
>Backstep L1
>Dash R1
>Dash L1
>Jump R1
>Jump L1

DS3 twin weapons:
>R1
>L1
>R2
>Charged Attack
>Weapon Art
>Backstep R1
>Rolling R1
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>>164207845
It's actually really well done. No other game in series allows to craft boss weapons so early, not even DS2. No other game provides to many options for virtually all builds just after killing 2-3 bosses. And AoA made it even better for single-stat physical builds as i can just grab all crow, millwood or follower gear right after crystal sage.
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>>164207048
>look skyward
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>>164207749
They should have implemented some system where grinding souls and buying a bunch of items would matchmake you with stronger invaders

>OH WAIT
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>>164208147
>R1
>R2
>roll R1
>roll L1
>Backstep R1
>Backstep L1
>Dash R1
>Dash L1
>Jump R1
>Jump L1
Those are all generic attacks of the weapons, not unique to powerstance.
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>>164208174
What weapons can you use for fth and pyro so early?
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>>164208405
You can use Raw ASS like any other caster and it will carry you through most of the game. Then just switch to Dark Longsword or Onyx blade.
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>>164208405
>fth
Raw ASS is perfect for early game faith builds.
>pyro
Dark Hand, hilariously. It was so fucking overbuffed i can easily use it all the way pre-Irithyll, not to mention how hard it wrecks Dancer if you want to do her early.
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>>164207196
I like how cherry picked minor annoyances and flavoured your criticism with over the top opinions and out right lies.
11/10 shit post. Made me reply.
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>>164208405
Pyro finds cornyx in the second area, for melee he'll have to raw/fire infusion. Faith can get blessed infusion and lightning spear in farron keep and has access to many faith spells after road of sacrifices. Also saints bident in CotD.
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>>164207048
what does this have to do with crappy animations, you fucktard?
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>>164205768

>No practical dual wielding, just gimmick weapons

DS3 dual weapons were like a shit watered-down version between DS2's powerstance and BB's trick weapons I agree, but BB had pretty meaningful dual wielding in my opinion, in terms of the support weapons in the left functioning pretty damn well.

>no bonfire ascetics to respawn bosses
I think this was too game in general. You could always co-op or restore an older save at that point I guess.

>no meaningful torch sections
Neither did any version of DS2 besides the network test version.

Bloodborne had multiple good sections where torch was useful but not absolutely required but the darkness was real.

>no more careful stamina management for rolls
It's depending what playstyle you prefer. I can see preferring the DS2 style, but I also enjoy the fast gameplay in DS3. Though rolls should consume more stamina I agree.

>linear map, no more branching path
I'm alright with it as long as the levels were interconnected like BB.
DS2 had bad level and level network design overall, DS1 was much better in that regard.

>fewer weapons, and even more useless ones because of the dominant DLC weapons
Having fewer weapons but with more detail to each one is the direction that the series should go towards overall.
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>>164207313
are there any other games that sit with you when you are not playing? That make you think about exploring the world more or contemplate things you came across?

Is there any world that becomes as familiar as DaS1? I know it like my childhood house.
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>>164208867
How many moves in BB allow you to swing oly the left handed weapon?
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>>164208405
>fth
raw ass => raw flamberge+gnaw => wolnir's gs+dorhys gnawing
>pyro
raw ass => dark hand/demon fist => onyx blade/gargoyle flame spear/witch locks
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>>164208920
>>164208920
>>164208920
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>>164203670
kys
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>>164208336
Unique, or useful. Pick one. Unique moves are not better. But having more simultaneous moves at your disposal is.

Power Stance actually gave you diversity in your approach /counter options and made a lot of weapons viable.

>>164208867
Fewer weapons with more detail to each one is the exact opposite of what this series should be doing. The combat customization is the one thing From Soft does better than any other company, take that away and they're just making worse versions of other platformers / hack and slash games.

I think DS3 is doing things right by having so many infusion options on a single weapon (especially heavy/sharp/refined infusions, which the game needed since DS1). But getting rid of power stance and reducing the total amount of weapons (making it impossible to get lighter or longer versions of weapons with the same moveset) just undoes that benefit.

They need to go one step further and implement proper weapon tuning by letting you piece together movesets of each weapon, and maybe even change the length/weight etc. That would help kill some of the PvP weapon meta and make weapons more about playstyle than just having tier lists for whatever has the 'best moveset'.
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>>164209860
>Unique, or useful. Pick one.
I pick both because majority of unique L1/2s in DS3 are highly useful as well as rolling and running attacks.
In fact, highest DPS in DS3 comes exclusively from paired weapons.
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>>164209016
I experienced that same feeling 10 years ago with Armored Core

I see way too much of Dark Soul's experience just being a rehash of armored core to really get very "woah" about it.

All the contemplation, light vs dark vs freedom, player agency, armor/weapon customization, death punishments, unified currency, faceless protagonists, depressing NPCs, giant oppressive bosses, are all things I had seen before in their other games and often done better by the time I played dark souls.

But I love dark souls for the open (ish) world, the very clever and well integrated pvp, the atmosphere, the level design, and the satisfying melee combat, all of which armored core never had, despite doing everything else equal/better.
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