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I MISS NAGAPOSTER edition

>INFORMATION & GUIDES
Latest patch: http://www.dota2.com/700
New players: https://purgegamers.true.io/g/dota-2-guide/
Wiki: http://www.dota2.gamepedia.com/
Blog: http://blog.dota2.com/
Lore: http://dev.dota2.com/showthread.php?t=35923
Guides: http://steamcommunity.com/app/570/guides
Cosmetic simulator: http://dotaloadout.com/
Competitive Scene: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/dota2/Main_Page

>STATISTICS
Competitive DOTA 2 analysis: http://www.datdota.com/
DOTA 2 analysis: http://www.dotametrics.wordpress.com/
Personal statistics: http://www.dotabuff.com/
Personal statistics#2: http://www.opendota.com/ (formerly yasp.co)
Hero stats: http://www.devilesk.com/dota2/heroes/herodata/
Hero and DPS calculator: http://www.devilesk.com/dota2/apps/hero-calculator/

>NEWS & STREAMS
http://www.joindota.com/
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>be chink manager of half the teams in the scene
>steal admin API key
>literally cheat in esports for 3 years, grossing over 5 million dollars from high place finishes at internationals
>hack players inventories and frame your competitor for "scamming"

>valve security either so worthless, or the company so corrupt and sold-out to chinks, that they allow a fucking external account to abuse an API like this for so long, never detecting the abuse.

>also allowing fucking external requests outside their corporate/secure network to do things like manipulate items in players inventories and accounts, literally tens of thousands of dollars sometimes.

this is literally the biggest scandal in esports history and nobody fucking cares

it was dropped at the holiday season (almost as if to be swept under the rug) and reddit is ignoring it

fuck this shit
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>I dont like the new UI
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nth for 7.00 is the worst meta in dota history
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>>164133807
>AAHHHH GRILL
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>>164133942
>you'll never plot the destruction of dota with her after a day at the beach
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>carries cucked
>dead thread

rmyt
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>>164134061
>implying (You) would ever go to the beach
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>>164133942
i would give anything for her to be my gf
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>animeNEETs triggered by carries

>further confirming that anime addicts are almost always cuckports
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how do we stop LGD.Ruru?
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>>164133807
>>164134061
>>164134353
Holy shit. She's the reason CDEC managed to get 2nd at TI5

http://imgur.com/a/CZWlp
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>>164134282
>carries in dota 701
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>>164134475
>hey your game's been hacked open for years and most of the big results from your yearly championship are invalid, over 5 million dollars stolen
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>Enemy Invoker using the Euls script combo
>Fucks it up constantly because we have a silencer
>Rage quits before we win

lmao
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How much mmr have you won today anon?
49 reporting in
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>>164134674
>playing the game
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What is this biggest scandal thing? I have no idea what's happening
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what is the appropriate build for support venge or core venge?

As a support I usually go glimmer into force staff. Honestly, glimmer and force staff are all I ever buy on supports these days. You are just too squishy to not have a escape of some sort and usually one is never enough.
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>>164134785
Someones been screwing over the American dota player, guess who?
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>>164134540
Eh. I'm fine with the response. The lack of doing anything of note for over a month is troubling though.
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>>164134915
peru?

captcha: guerrero laraza
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>le balanced man of no required introductions in every single match
>wrecks faces when on the enemy team
>is complete garbage when on mine

uhmm, doturds...?
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>>164134915
Russia?
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>rush basher after echo on THE KANG
>instantly win game
>people still manage to fuck it up
uhhh, dotards?
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>>164134883
yasha into manta usually if youre trying to be core, but desolator is hands down the best bang for your buck as venge

aghs hilarious and great on all builds
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What items should I be getting as a witch doctor?
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>>164135209
mana boots glimmer aghs
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>>164135209
ring of repick
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>>164135209
Wards then back in the shed
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>>164135209
treads dominator take the damage talent and dominate the mana regen creep then aghs
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>>164135423
witchdoctor is the most ALPHA support, this is a well known fact
he forces you to look at it go every time
look at it go as in his semen in your pigfat wife
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>viper is offlane and sniper loses against le tricky man mid

what is my life
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>>164135571
I can't recognize any of these heros
what the FUCK did they do to dota
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>>164135778
check out the new amazing hud and try laning vs monkey king for real dota experience
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where were you when last 3 years of competetive DotA results was kill
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>>164135778
You're in luck anon, these are less dogshit cosmetics that you can still recognize the hero with!
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>>164135778
combination of overpriced shitty sets that you rarely see together

rubick has 2 particularly shitty ass fucking sets
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>>164135778
you're a retard then

the only one hard to recognize in that picture is sven
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>>164135890
Quack quack
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>he picked DE DUSK ;DDDD
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>>164135778
>Spirit breaker with literally default skin and looks very much alike to it's dota 1 model
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>>164135931
councilor's raiments is the best rubick set, prove me wrong

you can't
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>>164135941
i don't remember dragon knight having a blue set though
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>>164136036
None are good, except my homebrew combination, scrub shitballs.
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Why isn't reddit going onto this scandal? They were all over Puppey being an asshole
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>>164136000
this meme died two years ago
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>>164136163
redditors are liberals
liberals do only what they are told
So when chink teams have been cheating for 3 years, thats totes fine
I also like how they want to blame things on "stolen api key" rather than Valve just being a corrupt shit organization
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>>164136163
Because that was funny.
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>>164136140
never mind the previous comment,there are 6 fucking LE TRICKY JESTER MAN sets now

these item creators need to kill themselves

fantocinis's enema looks espeially like shit
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>>164136467
literally our girl
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>>164136165
he is fucking shit this patch
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Nth for legion is useless
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>>164136457
Conservatives would have killed dota because they wouldn't allow anyone outside America to play.
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that game was fairly trivial
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is techies op in this meta?
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>>164136591
legion looks fine
sure she doesn't necessarily scale the best, but shes fine
Why didn't she duel the snipes?
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>>164136591
Hello satan.
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>>164136613
yes please tell me how the screaming hordes of third worlders are keeping this game """alive"""
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>>164136457
>*tips fedora*
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>>164136591
>have damage
>dont have any form of health/armor item whatsoever aside from the 350hp from aghs
nice trench satan
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>>164136163
DUDE HEADPHONES LMAO
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>>164136591
>deso + satanic
this is sub 1k mmr
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>>164136709
200k whiners calling heroes by the color instead of name are going to keep this game alive?
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>>164136876
wow no u dumbass they are not orbs anymore lmao ur so fucking silly
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>>164136591
>2 urns
>games looks 1 hour+, max networth is 30k
this shit must be under 1k mmr
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What if there was a hero that got permanently got +1 armour every time an enemy hero died near him?
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Artour Meepo
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>>164136901
>the people spending money on the game aare going to keep this game alive?
truly a question for the ages
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>>164136785
or lifesteal
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>>164137090
literally thresh
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we got a meeps game lads
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>>164135778
you might be mentally handicapped
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>>164136591
>literally no teamfight winner, extreme single target disables or autistic no escape stun like an enigma fucking you in the ass

how is this guy so bad to lose with literal 2 rapier legion in a game tailored for him
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>>164137634
??
he's facing chain fucking stuns
SB stuns pierce bkb
Obviously you can see a big part of the problem in that he still has fucking threads but no lifesteal
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Thoughts on QoP offlane?

Is that a thing and if yes - when is it good?
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Haven't touched Dota since the new patch dropped, which champs became metacancer?
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>>164136163
Secret had a huge fanbase there. Everyone knew and enjoyed every player. The scandal was so sweat because it spearheaded puppey and absolutely destroyed him, people knew he was a dick but not insane in such a hilarious way.
Whats happening right now shows how little english speakers care about chinese teams. Everyone its about is a literal who, so who cares if they're theives. They didnt win first place so who cares about over 5 million dollars.

So be happy the the scandal was on the front page for a couple hours. Be happy it dropped down to #41 today. Forget about it. Valve wants you to, and reddit happily obliged. Forget about it like Halloween or Christmas or New Years. Instead focus your energy on getting hyped about the Spring compendium. Get super hyped about the Chinese New Year event. Its gonna be big! Eat shit like a good dotard.
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>>164137874
it used to be shit
don't know anymore
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>>164137886
none. everything is a clusterfuck. supports are carrying, carries are running around collecting runes, shit is everywhere, healing fountains everywhere.

its trash. theres no meta or strategy anymore.
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>>164137886
luna is the best safelane carry in the game
SD+luna is suicide-tier game breaking
monkey king is pretty good but people just suck at playing against him, I dont think hes OP

early fight/team utility heros win games now. Underlord and necrophos for example
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is Crystal "Maiden" the most horrible title given to someone in dota land?
this "Maiden" doesnt look like a maiden to me , hell Lina the Slayer is more of a maiden compared to this slut.
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>>164137849
silver edge disables bash
it applies break

he has BKB for CK's stun and eulls and hallebeard

there is nothing that can touch him and fuck him hard
counterattack might still compensate for his autistic lacks in lifesteal
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>>164137886
thats a big doggo
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>>164138113
>silver edge disables bash
and how do you apply it to a spirit breaker charging you out of his own silver edge?
also how do you apply it to said spirit breaker while dueling someone?
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Meepos broken as all heck
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>>164138113
?????
He's facing a CK
CK hits SO fucking hard
He built no armor, no lifesteal, etc
CK will kill him in 3 seconds flat
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so why do people think RTZ is a good player when he has never won anything relevant and winning teams turn into losing teams when he joins them? do people really think pubs are a good representation of actual skill in dota or is it just blind fangayism?
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meepo used to be hard
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>>164138378
he's miles better than scrubs like us
>good at dota(compared to us)
>can get a gf
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>RTZ practicing meepo

will EG win TI8?
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wait
one second

did any of rurus teams ever eliminate secret
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>>164138384
meepo was never hard, the only people who thought he was were shitters incapable of using more than 4 buttons at a time
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>this disgusting lol meta where games are over by 10 minutes with everyone lvl 20

hello dotards?
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Does Jerax have a smurf? I want to watch his replays because nostream but his main account is idle. Also-

>4/5 players in OG haven't played a single game in 2 weeks
>Only Ana playing 10+ games a day
I know it's christmas but fuck, that's not good.
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Meepo nerfs incoming. Oh well. He had a good run. I bet icefrog watches rtc pubs
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>not using scrollwheel to manage your meepos
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>>164138384
Meepo used to be way easier because people didn't play 5man from minute 3 onwards
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if a meepo went rogue and raped another meepo would it be considered rape or masturbation
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>>164138514
not with RTZ on the team. EG (and every other team) historically does way better without RTZ
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>>164138580
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>>164138739
Aggressive asturbation
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Am I buying too many support items? Like I usually by a ton of sentries and a ton of wards in a game but it honestly doesn't it feel like it pays off. I feel like I buy the items so that the invis hero doesn't walk all over us vs buying the items TO KILL the invis hero.

It feels horrible when you buy 4 sentries and they still don't really pay off. It rapes the support wallet too.

Am I buying too many? Is there such a thing as buying too many sentries? When do you buy a gem?
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>>164138749
but now there are 6 Arteezys in one team

how do you even compete
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>there are still people who supports secret
I know there are redditors here but come on now they are tier 5 at best
>khezu
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>>164133860
IM GOING TO EAT YOU WINDRUNNER!
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Im 2k

Who do i spam till im not 2k?
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>>164138851
if you meant
>>164138553

i didn't mean nu-secret i meant old secret
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>>164138947
luna, jugg
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>>164138947
random button
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>18 minute megacreeps due to 1 hero

what did he mean by this
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>>164138947
P E N I S
E
N
I
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>>164139254
>not

B E N I S
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N
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"RTZ is trash" - d2g
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>>164139071
>jugg
no that hero excels in coordinated games not 2k
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>>164138812
It's only buying too many if you waste them by instantly placing all over the place without thinking instead of keeping them for critical spots/timings

You buy a gem when you are stronger and can roam around dewarding everything without fearing the enemy.
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>>164139235
which hero?
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>RTZ LITERALLY THE BEST FUCKING MEEPO IN THE WORLD
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>teammate feeds/doesn't doesn't bkb all game, blames all teammates
>he's on the other team next game
>he gets carried to a win because you have 2 teammates fighting over mid and your offlane dies 4 times in the first 5 minutes
>"HEY GUESS I WAS RIGHT YOU REALLY ARE SHIT ANON" in all chat after game

is there any worse feel?
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>>164139235
he counts as 5
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>>164139432
Fuck right off Artour
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>Played promo matches dead drunk with friends
>Placed in 3.2k mmr
>Never touch ranked again
Why do i have to fuck up everything i love in my life?
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>>164139420
mapo probably
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>>164133360
omg someone edited frog2, i'm so happy people saved frog1 and 2
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>>164139532
there are twitch boob girl streamers that are 5k MMR

if you aren't placed in 4K initially you should really not even play this game
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>>164139432
>Abed
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>>164139648
>200k 4k+ players at best
You wanna kill dota?
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>>164138934
sorry luv, beat ya to it!
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>>164139803
>back to the early stages of the dota 2 beta in 2012 when a couple tens of thousands of people played and it was only people who were good/cared about the game

yes please
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>>164139648
>there are twitch boob girl streamers that are 5k MMR
no there arent. the only tiny few of girls that are 5k on twitch are russian or asian and they actually play games all day long unlike boob streaming western sluts.
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>>164139960
its ok/10
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>>164139445
>pre patch 7
>forced to play a 278 minute game because techies can hold highground infinitely
>lose because furion decides that he can backdoor the ancient with just one rapier
>dies to mines and feeds rapier to PA
>lose -29mmr for whatever fucking reason
>0 reports left
>get sent to LPQ despite having 800gpm and being 32/5/0
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>>164139648
Haven't seen a single boobie streamer with over 3k mmr
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I am THAT kind of guy desu
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>>164139804
D-DELET THIS! RIGHT MEOW!
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starcraft is going back to Brood War, will dota ever go back to wc3?
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>>164140297
is that like 25% render quallity
what the fuck
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>>164140349
>starcraft is going back to Brood War
Details?
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>>164140132
>>164140047
Ephey, asia amore like a year ago, there's 1 or two more at the top of my head that i cant remember the names of though

plus all the asians/ruskies
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Dotards i need your help
>be in home town
>old pc can't run dota
>need a moba to feed my addiction
>play vainglory on mobile till battery dies
What moba do i get for pc? Is hon still alive? How's hots doing?
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if RTZ is so good then how come he's never won anything relevant?
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>>164140431
BW is becoming much more popular than in korea than sc2 is globaly, this time the game has far more global reach however so there could be a foreign scene, even if somewhat small.

Also, jaedong, flash, bisu and, stork are in the ro8 of a BW tournament that as far as I know has drawn far more viewers than any recent sc2 tournament.
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>>164140573
hon has like 10k players outside of trapland
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>>164138812
I buy an awful lot of sentries too. Too many really, I could get away with less if I read the game better. Pic related.

I recommend you carry *dust* and sentries, and save sentries for dewarding, tower pushes, high-traffic areas like runespots/rosh, or when a teamfight breaks out. Stay near your team, and if the enemy invis hero initiates on you, dust ASAP and your team should be able to kill them. There's nothing worse than getting killed, and then the invis hero gets off scott free because your allies have 0 detection. 2 people with dust minimum, buy it for them and drag it onto them/into their inventory if you have to.

Only get gem if you're a support that's tough to kill (mainly STR supports) or already have some defensive items if an invis hero goes on you. Don't get it if you're an underfarmed Rubick and there's decently farmed slark on the enemy team. Make sure you spam
>Gem of True sight-ready
when you buy it, and occasionally throughout the game to remind people to pick it up.
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>>164140651
so wait the people who went to SC2 went back to broodwar? that must be jarring considering all the macro changes
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>>164140657
damn that's a shame, it's a great game and the skins they make are fucking crazy
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>>164140657
what is trapland?
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>>164140657
Is trapland Brazil or Thailand?
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>>164140787
i mean you could still try playing it, shit just got a big update too or something
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>>164140763
Yeah the the top BW tournament right now

http://wiki.teamliquid.net/starcraft/Afreeca_Starleague_Season_2

hasn't had a lot of late game macro matches really, most stuff is like early aggression because people have only really switched in recent months.

Also people don't want to play a macro game vs literal bonjwas
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>>164140863
>he doesn't know hes already in trapland...
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>>164140843
>>164140863
thai
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>>164140349
Nope
They purposefully left wc3 dota in a shitty patch to stop this from happening
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>>164140970
I wish
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Is it still considered smurfing if you just want to start fresh on a new account because your current is ruined by low good boy score?
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>>164141390
>echo witch
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>>164137849
>Lifesteal
>When you have wk aghs and weaver aghs
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>Old techies had a low win rate

>New techies was buffed and now takes skill to play
>Higher win rate
>Takes skill
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defend reactive armor ins 5 words or less
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>>164140635
Hes probably made more than 99% of pros between streaming and the tourney winnings he's had
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>>164141710
Timber arcana soon fucking goy
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>>164141710
Who cares timber is bad
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>>164141710
laughing
my
fucking
ass
off
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>>164141710
Get muerdered before it works
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>>164141710
>What's magic damage I'm retarded
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So timber and chieftan are counters for the monkey?
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How do I get from 5k to 6k?
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>enemy picks axe
>ally picks phantom lancer

are you fucked in the head
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>>164141381
>only play unranked
>ummr is roughly 5k based on the people I'm matched with who display their mmr
>can't improve my 2k mid skills without destroying games

Replays and last hit training only do so much.
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>>164139391

I understand that but what the fuck do I do? It seems like all the time is the time for sentries when you are up against a invis hero.

I really fucking hate how some invis heroes can go like right up under you and unleash all their shit. Like shadow blade shadowfiend. Invis just seems very hard to counter properly and relies on the enemy miss playing. I hate relying on the enemy to miss play.

Sentries suck too. You can't really hide them and their range isn't that large, they give no vision of their own and they cost 200 and you can't buy them in singles. Why you can't buy single sentries I have no idea. So what are good timings to defend yourself from sentries?
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>>164141710
just
teleport
away
in his
face
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>>164142242
>get bots
>farm the entire map and jungle
>when your team is 10k gold ahead wait for the inevitable botched axe initiation then kill his entire team

you must be 18 or older to use this website, kid.
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>>164142242
>ally picks PL for any reason

just abandon the game desu
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>rtz is good at meepo
Shut it down!
WRONG WORLD LINE
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>when your support thinks being a support is an excuse to die a lot
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>>164140349
>HOHO
>HAHA
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>>164142440
edgy shitkid thinks everyone is in his 0.5k mmr trench and PL is somehow viable, even more so against his hard counters
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>>164142594
isn´t it?
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>>164142647
sure having more deaths than the average hero but not twice the amount of deaths
they should have more assists than deaths
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>>164142643
>it's impossible to out-think/outplay your hard counters

You must be 18 or older to use this website. or at least 2k MMR.
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>rtz good at meepo

2016 has a few surprises left
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I always wondered if rtz was smart enough to play meepo. It turns out that he is. How unfortunate. w33 has been cucked
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>rtz, not puppey, is the reason secret was bad
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>>164142945
Sounds like you aren't very smart yourself
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>>164142594
>play venge
>swap my cores out to save them
>complain that I'm feeding
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>>164142647
there is basically no reason to have more than 8 deaths in a game ever
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>>164143020
>secret without RTZ
>wins a major
>secret with rtz
>literally last place

really fires up the old 'rons
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>>164143216
What about this >>164143141
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>>164143395
that is one of the very few exceptions and even then you still shouldnt be dying constantly because you will have things like glimmer and force after a while
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>>164140297
The guy that plays on his DS?
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>rtz meepo
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This is the best TA hats.
You can't prove me wrong.
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>>164143321
>Drop RTZ
>Literally become world champions
>Bring back RTZ
>Literally lose to CoL and OG nonstop

L I T E R A L L Y because it's 100% true like holy shit he's the ooga booga of Esports
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FATA & YAPTARD form a new team. What do you think?
>>
Gulag tell me who you think the three worst heroes are this patch.
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>>164144179
visage (6.88 was objecively 10 times better)
brood
pl
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>>164135778
>literally no changes shadow demon
anon, I....
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>>164143865
>those pants
you must go back to agrabar
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>be PL
>get echo slamed
>instead of the standard 300-400 gold end up giving enough gold to buy three rapiers and a refresher
DOTARDS?!?!?
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>>164143865
>>
>"Pudge is missing!"
Name something worse
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>>164144530
>lmao lets make illusions GIVE GOLD
How did ANYONE think this was a good idea?
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>>164142169
play the game well
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>>164144624
Illusion spam was fucking awful don't ever try to defend this
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>>164144605
>AM has bfury
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>>164144624
the problem is that every single illusion in the game was retardedly op in 6.88 except pl who is just fundamentally shit
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>>164144605
pingpingpingpingpingpingpingpingpingpingpingpingpingpingpingpingping
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>>164144530
Are you literally retarded? Did you even read the patch notes?
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>>164144605
>Slark: 58 gold till Midas!
>29 minutes jnto the game
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Reminder that Traxex is still the best waifu.
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>>164143865
>no immortal
>tumblr hair
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>>164144530
you give like 200g more
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>d2g says RTZ is good at meepo
>watch his stream
>he loses

wew d2g never stops being wrong does it?
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>>164144909
>liking a literal nigger hero
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>>164144784
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>>164144992
>winning or losing is the only measure of skill

better watch some siractionslacks omniknight then he must be really good because he wins a lot
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>>164145004
how dare you? She is not black
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>>164145004
Do you even know what a nigger is, faggot? Traxex is an ELF MAIDEN.
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what the fukc
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>all these plebs
best fashion coming through
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>>164145135
ya i mean obviously RTZ cant win every pub, good thing he has valve event wins to back up his skill right? RIGHT?
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>>164144992
d2g likes rtz, why would you still be listening to them
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>>164144992
the best way to learn a hero is to first pick it and let them try and counter you
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>>164145294
Dendi has won more valve events than arteezy

Now tell me, who is more skilled?
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>>164145349
Sumail.
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>>164145349
peak Dendi was the most powerful player of all time mate
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>>164144914
This is the best TA set because it shows off more of her body.
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>>164145294
winning tournaments is more about teamwork than induvidual skill
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>>164145349
i know your memeing but im pretty sure dendi has a higher win rate when playing against RTZ
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>>164145518
thats like saying you were the strongest person in the world in kindergarden
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>>164145518
me on the left
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All these newfags trashing on my bro dondo without even realising how good of a player he used to be
Have some respect
>>
Dendi is more skilled than rtz but he's old now so the reaction time is high
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>>164145518
objectively wrong

peak dendi was a 6k player playing against a bunch of 5k players (of equivalent skill level today)

most dominant maybe but that is relative and sumail is probably the highest skillcap (ie most powerful)
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>>164145546
does dendi play on usservers? he has ping advantage
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>>164145692
Sumail is also pretty washed up. He's lost a lot since ti5 and can't get away with the same flashy high risk plays so he's past his peak.
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>>164145692
>he doesnt take mmr inflation into account

idiot
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>>164145852
I would bet you literally any mount of money that any 7k+ pub player could be sent back in time to ti2/3 and RAPE dendi
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really makes you think huh
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>>164145959
nah. players now days are too spoiled by all the things the game just does for you now. ti1-3 dota was objectively WAY harder to play and master
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>>164145004
drow is white and pure and the cutest!
not that there would be anything wrong with being black though
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>>164146060
L M A O

GO WATCH TI1
>>
*boots up hon*
hehe time to play a REAL SKILL assmoba game

come join /hong/
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>>164146060
ok, what didnt the game do for players in the ti1 - ti3 era that it does for them now?
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>>164146160
i'm so sad the game is dying so fast, it's my 2nd fav moba out there
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>/d2g/ proshitters arguing about pro player power level
shit never gets old
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>>164146310
FACT: Bulba is the most POWERFUL player in the world
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I love playing TA mid, but sometimes I don't get mid. If I enjoy TA, who might I like in the various other positions?
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>>164146040
really makes you think
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>>164146060
tell which would be harder

playing csgo regularly

or

playing csgo where everyone has an aimbot
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>>164146275
store hot keeps for one, you ever tried playing naga before the game just remember what illusions was on which hot key?
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>>164146489
>playing csgo where everyone has an aimbot


I believe that's called the pro scene in cs go.
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>>164146483
n0tail has been a pro player for longer and he was in HoN too.

kinda pathetic they he's barely made more than arteezy whos been in the scene for like four years
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>>164146385

umm excuse me that's e.g demon
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>>164146463
slardar position 3

blinks on people and hits them for physical damage tho not in as much of a nuke as TA does

the fact is there are no heroes that play all that similarly to TA
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>>164146489
playing csgo regularly because i would have to aim on my own and not use an aim bot

next question
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>>164144914
>immortal
>noit the worst hat ever conceived by any gaming company ever
pick 1
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>>164146614
Yeah winning 3 majors vs being a team killer cheque stealer, really pathetic :^)
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>>164146463

offlane nyx

get a dagon, evaporate supports

though that actually might not work in this patch since everyone gets a lot more xp and meme talent hp so nevermind

nature's prophet is actually really good this patch now that illusions are garbage for pushing
>>
Who's the main character of Dota?

Is it Lina?
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>>164146727
I see you're still upset leouch

Not sure how you can call arteezy a team killer when notail teamkilled for how many years?
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>>164146794
jugg
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>>164146794

wrong
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>>164146818
literally which teams did notail kill? fnatic disbanded, than he got kicked off secret, then he made one of the most successful teams in history

rtz has never even been in the final of a valve event, like what even
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>>164146818
Wich team did n0tail kill?
>>
what if guardian greave meepo
>>
>>164146794
>Jugger
>Shadow fiend
One of those 2 i believe
>Cm in 3rd place
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>>164147035
>>164147017
fnatic, c9 and secret
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>>164147017
RTZ is dog shit and easily the most over rated pro of all time in any game
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>>164147071
Please stop thinking
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>>164147214
tfw when im now manually thinking

FUCK
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>>164147208
SeemsGood ranged item on melee SeemsGood 2 orbs SeemsGood COL player SeemsGood must be NArteezy SeemsGood
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if you arent playing terrorblade this patch, just one word for what you are

wrong
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>>164147071
seen it before. it sucks because you can't really go treads > mek, and you'll have the gold but you can't build travels first either. you have to stay brown boots and just...build mek vlads blink, then go greaves...maybe pipe heart, just be super tanky. greaves aren't bad for that build.
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is it gay to grab your own dick?
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What's the best offlaner in 7.01?
I've played timber a lot and it worked out pretty well
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>>164146060

dota is now like playing an -APEM game every game where everyone gets free gold and xp just for existing but it's a harder game right now

before it was all about planning and execution, where if you won a lane or two it would be an almost insurmountable advantage and you'd snowball into dominating the entire game

now you can lose a teamfight lategame and lose all momentum from memeback gold, every single fight matters a lot more I really don't like it and want my slow methodical dota back please, it feels like a bad -EM custom game
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>>164147182
fnatic disbanded because they were just bad, c9 was dead long before notial joined and the only reason it limped on was because EE couldnt find a new team, secret has never not been shit
>>
>tfw matchmaking decided It was time to end my winning streak by putting a Anonymous Profile level 14 subhuman on my team

Not even fucking subtle, the guy was tilted to the fucking moon before the game even began.
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>>164147408
not if its a feminine dick
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So I just started and I have trouble deciding which good beginner heroes are for each lane/position. Any suggestions? I have a decent amount of MOBA experience but the large amount of heroes is daunting.
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>>164147408
no because its yours

sexual orientation is a concept about relationships with and perception of other people
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>>164146121
Damn that picture is really cute anon~
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>>164147835
so if identical twins suck each others dicks its not gay? :thinking:
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>>164147826
just random and find a hero you like first. you wont actually know anything until at least 200 hours of dota
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>>164147943
>implying sucking someones dick is gay in 2k16
>>
>pick earthshaker against meepo
>blink and press R
>collect memeback gold
Meepo needs 70% passive magic resist to counter this bullshit
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ILL DEAL WITH THE UI IF THEY FIX THE FPS
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>>164147826
Wich heroes have you played?
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>>164148071

futa on male is gay

futa on female is as straight as possible

this has been scientifically proven
>>
>>164148071
no

but traps are ultragay
>>
>>164148167
its not gay if the guy is a cute trap or the guy is fucking the futa
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>>164148071
absolutely not
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THIS GAME ISNT EVEN FUN TO WATCH ON TWITCH ANYMORE

and there wont be a fucking update tonight either. valve is going to wait until they can sell you a new battle pass to update this mess.
>>
>>164147943
do you believe identical twins aren't different people?
>>
>>164147983
I mean when I say I just started I mean I have at least 100 hours so far. I have a general idea of how things work.

>>164148161
I've played like half of the cast but when I get to the hero selection I freeze up. I do like heroes with mobility.
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>>164148234
malik is mentally ill (he's black)
>>
is deso + skadi the build on ta now?
>>
>>164148413
we might get performance patch for new bloom, can't have the chinese suffer during the holidays
>>
Are people building Skadi on AM yet?
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>spectre has 2.0 STR gain for a AGI hero
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>RTZ is good on Meepo
-/d2g/
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>>164148896
>spectre can get 2 items and press 1 button for a free rampage very 2 min
>>
Can someone knowledgeable please explain to me what a carry is supposed to do in patch 7? Is his role even significant anymore?
>>
>>164148434
>100 hours
>I have a general idea of how things work

no you dont
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>>164149017
>implying meepo can do anything there
you can't just pick meepo, you pick meepo lineups. like with drow

>>164149081
get items win fights kill buildings
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>>164148434
Slardar is a solo offlane with pretty good mobility.
Slark and weaver are easy, pretty strong and mobile carries.
Queen of pain has a blink and is a strong mid. Storm spirit and timbersaw are also strong midlaners, but the latter is not as mobile.
Kotl is a support with high move speed, but without any Mobile skill
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Has Treant aghs been nerfed yet?
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Alright repostan for feedback as I'm unaware of this backpack gimmik.

Do you get aura's or anything from items in the backpack?

Also what items should I have had AA have to make the winning even easier?
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>>164149180
Thanks! I'll keep these in mind.
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>>164149081

push

illusions can't push anymore, so your main role is to survive a successful teamfight and end the game

nothing else matters, if you win a teamfight and are not in a position to push then immediately get rosh or something so you have an advantage while pushing.
>>
>>164148434
you need at least 200-500 hours to start understanding all hero match-ups,strategies and how to play 90% of them
I'm on my 11th year of playing dota and there are still some small things i never knew about
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ROLLBACK THE PATCH

I WANT MY DOTA BACK

I JUST WANT TO ENJOY THE GAME AGAIN
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>>164149454
it really depends on your attitude though. i have 300 hours in dota but i never wanted to become good. i dont know anything about the meta i just instapick in unranked
you cant compare this to someone who actually wants to become good in 300 hours and read about the game
>>
>pick jakiro
>play him as a core
>win
nice game doturds
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?
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>>164149556
nah you'll get what you get and like it, you poor cuck
-Gaben
>>
>>164149605
why do people walk their cats?
>>
>>164149605
>jeans at the beach
is sheever autistic?
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>Cosmetics dont load
>fps is some how better
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>>164149556

me too

also why is chen so fucking bad this patch holy sghit he's garbage in every way right now
>>
At this point i would give valve 30$ for the old patch
>>
>Finish 9/3/20
>I did okay that game I guess
>Finish 10/3/19
>Wow I fucking carried shitters can't keep me down

Why does dual digit kills make you game impact feel so much more?
>>
>>164149326
bkb pike instead of shadow blade travels instead of refresher
>>
>>164149739
>>164149556
You dumb fucking finicky morons never liked the game
All /d2g/ does and has ever done is complain and hate on the game so just go play elder scrolls or some shit and stfu
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>>164149776
You have autism.
>>
>0 supports
>last pick carry at 1 second time left

what actually causes people to do this? honestly, are they just not understanding the game or some shit?
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>>164149867
Literally the ONLY patches ive ever complained about since I started playing in 2012 are 6.83 and 7.00 and my only real issue with 6.83 was the fact that I didnt play or like any of the meta heroes and again was purely because of gameplay issues.

7.00 is bad both for gameplay and quality of life/aesthetic reasons
>>
>>164149980
>4 people decided they want to play cores
>So I should support them!

Cuck logic.
If your team want to play 4 cores, they should be okay with 5 as you pick the roaming bloodseeker.
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>Top 10 most played
>Post em
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>>164149867
this is the first time i've complained about a patch and ive been playing every day for 5 years. defensive fanboys like you dont deserve dota.
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>>164149867
7.00 is the first patch ever to take away more than it added to the game
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>>164149556
I can understand anon, I know why you are upset, give it time, the frog will bring prosperity once again.
>>
>>164149739
post dotabuff
>>
>>164149867
Yeah sure i don't like the game, with my 10k+ hours invested in it
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>>164150223
>mostly mid heroes

I dispise you
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>>164150223
>>
>>164150223
>>
>>164150142
>I started playing in 2012
ding ding ding
>>
>>164150595
>>164150598
haven't met a single person with less than 50% winrate on lion
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>play techies
>win
>get reported
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>>164150740
its actually insane because when i first started i played like 60 lion games in a row and had no idea what i was doing but won most of them

that was in 6.83/6.84 though he seems a lot worse now and I dont really pick him anymore
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>>164149867

I love dota

this is no longer the same game

it's kinda fun but is more like a deathmatch custom game now

peak dota 2 was before ranked when the top random matchmakers all played together in one pool and no one cared about a shitty number and being good depended on playing in competitions, where most of the tournaments were casted from basements and not million dollar ESPN lookalike studios

>doubting mouz
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>>164150889
You knew the deal when you picked the hero
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>>164150924
>dota2ers pretending to be oldfags
this is the most rancid washed up meme
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>>164150740
Not that hard hero to play, pretty straight forward and has 6 secs of cc.. Its stupid
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our boy grant is casting team freedom

https://www.twitch
.tv/grandgrant
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I've always been a HoTD spamming fag, even in fast farming heroes who had little use for the stats it provided, but with the "new" changes (especially since the movement speed buff) its absolutely insane, get a sagged tited harpy to murder fuck the supports and if they don't instantly tp out they are 100% dead.
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>no more RTZ strim
now what do I do for the rest of the year?
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>>164151176
fear and grant are streaming
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>>164136554
wrong
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>>164136945
actually lifesteal and armor break are still unique orbs

orb of venom isn't though
>>
>>
>>164151071
>Downloading autoclicker and exp hack so i can join eu high level room 1 on garena where semi pros were playing even tho i was shit
>good old times
>>
Man remember when Dota 2 was about strategy and nuance instead of this retard 5man button mashing deathball clownfest

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tDaJes0T1Ig
Good times
>>
>>164151735
REMEMBER WHEN 4.1K PLAYERS LIKE DIDN'T GET MATCHED VS 6K PLAYERS EVERY OTHER GAME?
>>
>create new account
>all games are save to leave due to network
Is that related or does valve network issues?
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>>164151663
>january 14th
>implying we'd have our months used in dotaverse
Fucking why do shitters exist again?
>>
>>164151735
look at that ugly UI though
>>
>>164151735
I love how the play has been completely overshadowed over the years.
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>>164152569
Because it's dumb shit and anyone who is over 4k nowadays could tell you everything iG did wrong and how easy it was for Na'vi
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>>164151735
fuck im getting depressed thinking we will be stuck with this brawler heal rune bullshit dota forever
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>>164138384
>meepo used to be hard
This was my first time using Meepo. Really god damn easy.

Has been nerfed hard though
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>>164145692
some muslim the best player over based dondo

aaaahaahahahaha you have GOT to be kidding me
>>
>>164134674
-49

you know when you pass your goal and then immediately go back down the next game or two? that cycle just keeps repeating over and over
>>
>>164152379
old UI is objectively more aesthetic than nu-UI. It may have been clunky and large but at least all the information that you need is easily accessible and it isnt ugly as sin.

being able to see ~2.8% more of your screen simply isnt worth the trainwreck we have now
>>
>>164152887
old ui was large but it wasnt clunky

the new ui is small but clunky as fuck with a design that works against you
>>
i never had one UI cosmetic because i'm not a dumb goy but what happened to them
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>>164153215
you can still use them but most of it is cut out
>>
>>164151735
>le glorified 5k match
but then again
>This was the last year chinks played without priviledged data
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>>164153215
they essentially went away. Some of them looked great and had some interesting art and actually went for a few dollars on the steam market. Now there is no point in owning one
>>
I feel like the blatant sarcasm present in my masterpiece >>164151735 has been sorely missed by a couple of posters
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>>164151735
>20min rax

holy memepush
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what if there you could enter a combination of keys at hero select screen to unlock sheever as a playable character?
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>>164154165
>no giantess hero
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>GET DIRE
>LOSE
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>that fucking play in fears stream
>>
What are the most fun heroes in each position?
>>
>>164154530
lina from behind
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>>164154530
Techies
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REEEE WHY THE FUCK DO I HAVE TO CLICK THE SHOP BUTTON TWICE EVERY TIME

What retard designed this I want to strangle him
>>
>>164149569
how do you build a core Jakiro?
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>>164154530
IMO

>safe lane
AM and ursa

>mid
storm, ember, and troll

>off lane
beast master

>4
bara, night stalker, visaga

>ward bitch
venge, bane, and lion
>>
post the lc build guide
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>>164155185
iron talon, phase/treads blade mail, blink, lose the game because you went jungle and did nothing for 20 minutes
>>
>>164155016
Euls veil dagon eblade aghs shivas octarine
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>>164155361
the one with the FREE damage pic
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>>164155171
Is troll finaly viable?
What are his core items now?
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Tell me why midas isn't as core as boots.
I get it on every hero in every game and have a winrate that's over 50%
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>>164155543
games end faster than they used to so it's tricky getting it if you get caught midgame without any other core items
Other than that i started getting it on few more heroes than i used to
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>>164155495
Phase, helm of dom(mainly for stats and regen), desolator, skadi, crit. Blink and dragon lance are also pretty good.
>>
It's hard to get over 500 gpm on intelligence heroes right?
I've been spamming necro and pugna and haven't been able to get as much gold as I'd like despite farming towers as pugna and creeps/heroes as necro as much as possible.
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Gentleman, how do we balance the king of monkeys? To a lesser extend how do we stop the wolves x2 at your door(s)?
>>
is the 20games/2 weeks free abandon still in the game?

Asking for a friend
>>
ogre magi
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>>164154310
Whatever happened to jess anyways
And soe, what are those two up to?
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>>164156121
make his q have a casting delay up to one second
do the same for his ult, but make it a channeling spell
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my weaver started stout shield
and we lost
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>>164157205
such is life in the trench
>>
Looking for someone to play with.
http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198044003591/
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>>164157291
>US player with no anime avatar
truly the worst kinds of trash on USW and USE
>>
How long do I need to play on a new account until ranked?
>>
>>164157484
>being a filthy weeb
>>
I've been trying to figure out how to solve Chaos Knight's mana problems and am at a loss. Would an Echo Sabre make sense?
I don't know the hero very well, but a friend plays him super hard carry and always bitches about mana.
He often builds, armlet, drums, S&Y, and Heart/BKB.
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>>164157593
~200 hours i think
>>
>>164157651
Echo sabre is legit pick on him, just make sure you get maelstrom for farming after that
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>>164156943
only invoker has quas
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>get dire again
>lose

not mad just got to get better, any dire tips? sometimes some heroes just dont work on the dire side i feel and other times i feel like even myself included, no one knows how to play the dire side in lower mmr
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>>164157593
It's somewhere between 100 and 150 games. You need an account level of 20. Games against bots count (as long as it's co-op matchmaking)
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>>164157291
>http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198044003591/

sorry
different regions and I don't want to deal with lag.
>>
What do you get on pugna after aether lens and aghanims?
I just had a 70 min game with /vg/ where I got heart, hex, bloodstone and octarine. They all seemed like meme items except heart but even heart sort of failed in the lategame because my heal isn't enough to save people. Should I have gone dagon? How do you increase your impact in the lategame? I was a core pugna.
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>>164157291
>US player

I'll suck your dick for a Visa
>>
>>164158494
>Thirdies getting desperate
>>
>>164158434
eblade
>>
>>164158646
But I live in Korea anon, I just want to experience the glorious Trump years :)
>>
>>164158434

Replace Bloodstone with Atos and Heart with Lotus Orb
>>
why do people think luna combos with SD?
Wouldn't sniper combo better? because sniper can hit turrents from out of turrent range
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>>164158743
>Korea isnt third world when compared to America
rofl
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>>164158817
I'm going to shove my turrent up your ass and cum deep isinde you
fucking slut
>>
>>164158817
Glaves. Sniper doesn't do aoe damage luna does. I wonder if drow illusions can do that too if she gets aghs.
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>>164158770
But atos ain't shit in the lategame. And lotus orb doesn't regen my health so I can heal allies without killing myself.
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>>164158901
>datacaps
>first world
Pick one you filthy /pol/tard. Knowing you, you'll pick both because your IQ is below 100 like everyone of you genocidal maniacs.
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>Have gone from 4.2k to 5k since 7.00 hit
>by spamming one single hero

If anyone can guess it I'll tell you what it is

Hint: I played only in the offlane, sometimes someone else would lane with me but pretty much solo off.

It's also not monkey king.
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>>164159392
Necrophos
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>>164159392
NEcro?
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>>164159392
weaver is free mmr no reason not to play him
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>>164159392
>If anyone can guess it I'll tell you what it is

?
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YttscNOoAjA

this is my fight song....
>>
>>164159392
Slardar or Centaur
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>>164159682
>all of that, just to lose horribly
>>
All fight and no farm makes Dota a dull game.
>All fight and no farm makes Dota a dull game.
All fight and no farm makes Dota a dull game.
>All fight and no farm makes Dota a dull game.
All fight and no farm makes Dota a dull game.
>All fight and no farm makes Dota a dull game.
All fight and no farm makes Dota a dull game.
>All fight and no farm makes Dota a dull game.
All fight and no farm makes Dota a dull game.
>>
>>164159854
Agree
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>>164159837
women are equal now, bigot
brake the final glass ceiling
#imwithher
>>
>>164159764
>>164159582
>>164159459
>>164159456
>>164159596

My game is starting so just so I don't keep you waiting: Faceless Void
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>>164160028
Damageless void. You got carried by your team.
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>>164160087
a win is a win
>>
What game to replace dota with?
>>
>>164160028
What talents are good? Especially the last one? Is it better to get that 1225 cast range on his blink literally become AM?
>>
how do people not know how to deal with MK?
>>
>>164146794
dragon knight
you would play as him in the old tutorial
>>
Alright guys I fell down from 1200 to 900 solo mmr after christmas. I blamed valve at first because I lost more than 10 games in a row due to shitty teammates, but it's even worse when I know play with 600 memepoints players.
>should I stick to a couple of heroes or change every game (what I did now)?
>also should I stick to one role?
>what to do if support cant do its job?
>what to if if carry cant do its job?
>how do we not lose the game during drafting?
>should I create new account?
>should I stop playing?

You always say that nothing matters in this bracket except you being better than everyone, so do I do this?
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>>164160510
take a break, chill out, go on a hike or something
then go and collect your free mmr
>>
>>164160510
Spam meepo, cm or omni. Or other 60% Winrate heroes. Don't stop spamming them.
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>>164160510
if you're at 1000mmr it literally doesn't matter what the fuck you do, you're fucking garbage and every single match is a complete coin toss no matter what you do until you learn how to play. Which you never will, if you had the basic learning capabilities you wouldn't be 1k mmr
>>
Quack
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>>164160380
yes that talent is amazing.
>>
how bad would you have to be to play and lose at 1k mmr
>>
>>164160678
I'm studying to be a biochemical engineer at Toronto university and I got in on merit. My learning capabilities are fine.
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>>164160832
1k lives matter
we are silent but many
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>>164160852
memorizing shit =/= general intelligence
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>>164159126
>regen my health so I can heal allies without killing myself
Just life drain a creep to heal yourself.

Healing your allies isn't really one of Pugna's main points anyway.
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>>164160638
That's not what I meant.

>>164160664
>meepo
Last time I checked dotabuff no hero has 60% winrate. Omni and cm are around 50% now I believe

>>164160678
See >>164160510. You should try it out.
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>>164160678
I meant try this >>164160638
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>>164161204
No time for that in fights but you're probably right, healing wasn't great. Atos stops the movement but it's a 3k gold item. When you've got 30k gold, you want more expensive stuff don't you? Lotus isn't that great either because if they get to you, you die
>>
>>164160832
That makes you a subhuman being
>>
what you gonna do on new years eve dotards
>>
>I fell for the HotD on Faceless meme
>>
>>164161515
>Lotus isn't that great either because if they get to you, you die
I don't know, I think being able to purge/dispel yourself or an ally on 15 second cooldown is pretty great.
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>>164161878
Get fucking hammered from the moment I wake up and play Xbox.
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Hows your day of dota been gulag?
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>>164161878
gonna eat my mushrooms & watch the westworld movie
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>>164162445
why doesn't it show your mmr
>>
>>164162759
You can hide it, i did it when i tilted out of 5k in September as a way of coping with loss.
>>
abdul here guys, liking my masterpiece of a patch?
>>
no idea why retards think SD and luna combo at all
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guys how do i stop being an emo little bitch and give forth my best effort to win
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>>164163036
sure thing my 3k friend
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the dota 2 gulag

Hatchery and nursery for some of the most autistic and angry babby ducks the world has ever seen
>>
can someone explain this baby duck meme to me?
>>
>>164163612
you had to be there
>>
>>164163612
>Sexual attraction to humans can develop in non-human mammals or birds as a result of sexual imprinting when reared from young by humans. One example is London Zoo female giant panda Chi Chi. When taken to Moscow Zoo for mating with the male giant panda An An, she refused his attempts to mate with her, but made a full sexual self-presentation to a Russian zookeeper.

it is basically making fun of furfags who play sylla
>>
>>164163432
haha
let's see
you
haha
then, haha
pick PA
haha
but if you lose and huhu again, haha
you haha
pick supports haha
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>>164163447
Heres my games from last week when I got closest to getting it back.

My Luna games further up are 4.7-4.8k.
Thanks for your concern though.
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how do i abbadon
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>>164164803
Tranquil Soul Ring Vlads.
Push buildings.
Learn to position.

The hero is 90% of the last one unless you go some kind of phase basher meme.
>>
>>164133716
Guys DPS Puck is actually viable witht he new talents now
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>>164164803
phase boots into whatever you want
vlads is fun and fixes the mana reg issues
vang is fun too
you can't really do anything wrong with phase boots
Just don't go tranqs like a faggot
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>>164164803
click the "leave game" button
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>>164164803
naked heart rush
skip boots
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>>164164803
>boots of speed
>tranquil boots
>phase boots
>boots of travel
>power treads
>guardian greaves

There, You're six-slotted in no time
>>
>>164165234
>playing aba carry meme builds and expecting to win above 2k
>>
so i just calibrated at 4027 mmr, is that godo or bad?
>>
>>164165661
it was good, but now it's bad thanks to MMR inflation
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>>164164164
>won with pl
>lost with tb
Impressive
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Seriously though I feel like I dropped about 1k mmr from this patch alone. So much shit changed I can barely keep up with it all and I'm losing games left and right.

>tfw not autistic enough to get gud
>>
>not a single good streamer on
just end me
>>
>>164166168
>on
There is no good streamers period
>>
>>164166168
?
bsj
>>
>>164166168
>Not watching Grant
>>
>enemy team picks slark
>lose

when will cancer fish get fucking nerfed?
>>
>>164166301
>>164166332
consider suicide
>>
>>164166168
Sumail is one of the best mid players in the world, maybe even the best. Go watch him you fuck
>>
>Nobody likes to play support, yet everybody likes to win.

I legitimately can't believe I listened to the Bastion Announcer Pack, I can't even bare to look at the scoreboard any more because I know my carry is going to have less net worth than the roaming Rubick.
>>
>>164166301
how can anyone watch that autistic annoying sperg? He's such a stereotypical full of himself asshole social outcast
>>
>>164166490
being a good streamer isn't only about being a good player
i do not want to watch absolute faggots like bsj or sumail
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>>164166693
then kys
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164166490
>sumail is one of the best mid players
no .................... for you
>>
>>164166168
what do you have against grandgrant? he is like the 4chan version of slacks
>>
>>164166806
he's a literal nigger with white skin
>>
>>164165559
>phase boots means you're playing a carry
nigger detected
>>
>>164166379
>Losing to Slark
You are were you belong
>>
>>164166168
You could have watched me suck donkey ass as the dude I was playing with was trying to help.
>>
>>164166936
what? he is the exact opposite of a nigger

>is white
>contributing member of society
>has a job
>isnt on welfare
>has no children he makes the state pay for
>is not a criminal
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>62% Winrate over 900 games
>I'm suddenly getting placed with <60 Games and <48% winrate
I've surpassed anger, this is a whole new emotion just for me.
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everyones so mad all the time here
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>>164167103
dude he listens to music I dont like
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>A fucking ESL tournament next week.
>Game is fucking riddled with bugs and shrines still exist.
JESUS.
>>
>>164167137
better than being a soulless contrarian faggot
>>
>>164167039
yet he strives so hard to emulate their ""culture""
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>>164167260
but d2g is always wrong

ergo being a contrarian here would make one always right
>>
>>164167154
>the music you listen to determines if you are a sub human or not

i mean i dont like nigger music but there are worse things in the world
>>
>>164134540
>>164134940
I've talked to icefrog several times over extreme issues/exploits.
He often responds with "Thank you" or "Thanks" then forwards it to Valve and they set it straight hours later.

This however is quite big so it might take some time, trust me Icefrog is quite nice and spend a lot of time handling important behind the scene fuckery.
>>
>>164166756
mushi is dead
Dendi is dead
Ferrari is dead
S4 is offlane
Blink is dead
Ana sucks, most of the time
Noone failed at major and lost 2x0 to sumail
Miracle is slowly dying in liquid
Fata hasnt played in a while

Who the fuck is better than him?
>>
>>164167316
I would rather be wrong than be a bandwagon contrarian
>>
>>164167268
Explain.
>>
>>164167389
>losing a game with your team means you are individually worse than the player in the same position on the other team
surely you're jesting
>>
>>164167542
misquote
>>
>>164167389
me
>>
>>164140092
kek
>>
>>164167559
Answer my question.
So blink and noone are better than sumail, but as a team EG is better than VP and Wings?
>>
To any artists that may be browsing this thread:
Please draw more fuckboy cumslut Slark.

Fucking nothing turns me on more than seeing that stupid fucking fish get fuck, both inside of the game and out.
>>
>>164167039
oh hey that was me, you really should
>not autoattack in lane
>not spam your spells in lane
>save them for when they are actually useful (like when they first dived me) as alch
>>
>>164168353
how do you like your fish?
>>
>>164168353
kill yourself you disgusting fagggot
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>>164150223
aight
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Post your Christmas win streak lads.
>>
Why is CLQ not /ourguy/ anymore?
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>>164168889
>this perfect UI
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>>164167420
>i want to be unique, even if the uniqueness comes from how garbage i am
what's the point
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>>164168889
why is slark such a slut?
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>>164168353
>Please draw more fuckboy cumslut Slark
t. Dotard
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>>164169124
to be alive
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>>164169498
by what mechanism does that make you alive
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can someone please explain to me why people think RTZ is good when he has never won a single relevant anything?
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>>164169593
having opinions and caring about stuff is being alive

following the flow and being soulless is not being alive
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>>164169436
He was in a prison or something
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I wish i didn't waste 6000 hours on this shit assfaggots trash.

Also worst general of /vg/ with the worst posters and dead game since TI-3.
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>>164169776
can't disagree with any of this
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>>164169776
This is one of the better generals on this god forsaken website 2bh
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>>164169483
Are you implying you aren't a Dotard yourself?
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>>164169896
For nufags like you mb
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>>164169657
under those definitions of 'being alive' then why is it important or valuable in the first place? why would one care about 'being alive' under that criteria
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>>164144605
"Pudge has haste"
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d2g is always ___________
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>>164170089
if you dont care then your soulless and should just move to china desu
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>>164168682
Nah.
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anyone else immediately hide every post with the retarded facebook emoticon
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psg here

this general ded without me desu
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>>164169019
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>>164170352
who?
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>>164170351
>being this transparently triggered by normies

?
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>>164169672
that actually explains a lot
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>>164170351
i have the image hashs filtered
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>>164169776
>nier

hahahahahaha
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>>164170390
that's right.
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>>164170440
there's too many of them and the faggot(s) keep coming up with new ones
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>>164170242
so you failed to prove any of your statements. with such low standards for saying anything of value then anyone can claim anything.
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dota sure is a windmill of friendship and tolerance
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>>164155171
ur shit
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>random peruvian no name who fixes one match
>banned for life

>manager of half of the teams in china exploits API, hacks player inventories, frames other company, and takes home over 5 million in prize pools
>no punishment whatsoever, not even acknowledgement of the event

really makes you wonder
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>>164170903
i think the sentiment you're searching for is

dead game.bmp
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>>164170735
It just can´t be nothing else
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>>164170903
>expecting valve to alienate 70% of their player base
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>esports is less than 10 years old and already more corrupt than regular sports
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hiding that guys' posts as well
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>>164171104
>>164170903

>hollywood catering to chinks with movies

>valve ignores 3 years of cheating by these chinamen that allowed them to rack up 5 million in winnings

Why didn't we let macarthur nuke china again?
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>>164169614
thats like saying why is Leonardo Di Caprio considered a good actor when he has never won an Oscar.
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>>164171696
he isnt one leonardo is literally a meme actor
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>>164171696
No matter how hard this general slurps him, arteezy will never be good or relevant.
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>>164168992
Gz on 5k m8
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>Been playing ARDM since 2009 almost exclusively.
>Almost every every Hero has an Aghs upgrade now.
>Farming one is now easier than ever.
Feels good, man.
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>>164171696
But he did won an oscar. Only 1.
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does sumail legitimately, unironically like One Direction?
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Why did they remove techies suicide ?
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>>164172994
it was offensive to suicide bombers
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>>164172697
and RTZ will win a TI next year
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>>164172994
>everyone instantly dies
vs
>techies might die while silencing and highly damaging the enemy team
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>>164170903
well the peruvians were match fixing constantly
same with the SEA teams
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>>164172907
is that even possible?
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>>164149980
Just maybe it's unfair to force the last player to pick a cuckport? if you think your team needs a cuckport why wont you pick it yourself?
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>>164149980
Name ONE (1) hero in Dota 2 that cannot be played in a support role.
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>>164173412
pl
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>>164173412
not him but invoker?

That's on top of my head, I probably would name a lot more if I thought about it.
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>>164173412
viper
void
tb
invoker
drow
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Why do I get reported for trying new strats?
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>>164173412
anti-mage
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>>164173412
shadow fiend
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>>164149980
Supports should always pick first anyway.
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>>164173539
>>164173587
>forgetting about FY's QW support invoker
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>chinese dota
>lumi

wew time to get comfy

where the fuck is godz
>tfw no lumi + godz cast
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>>164173412
Anti Mage
PL
Huskar
Bristleback
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>>164174440
>lumi
>comfy
akshually
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>Beyondthesummit
Lmao. Every day, every day this shitty studio's audio is out of sync. Every day they miss 3/4 of the draft or even the entire drafting phase. Every day, ching chong Merlini is dirty and disheveled while casting, unshowered and unkempt because of his refusal to shower and his dedication to mouthbreathing. Every day the fat jew David "LD" Gormanberg is a fat jew, fat and a jew. Every day GoDz sucks the tiny cock of the Chinese dota scene just a little bit harder, desperately hoping for the Chinese load to be shot deep into his throat while trying to look "cool" with his awful pedophile mustache. Every day, Zyori "S N I F F B O Y" sniffs his dirty scrotum on camera, misses early teamfights and wears a pink bow in his disgusting, terrible "hair". Every single day this goes on, and you people eat it up. You love it. This is absolutely disgusting. I'm disgusted and I hate every single one of you, every single miscreant that donated to this horrid studio's kickstarter, every single retard that watches their streams without AdBlock, every single fan of this atrocious, revolting, insulting excuse for a "studio".
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>>164160510
Spam PA
No joke it always works everytime
>Needs little to no support
>Guaranteed lanes everytime
>Retards never look at the minimap so you can go literally everywhere
>Farming is easy as fuck
>1k damage at 15 mins
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https://twitter.com/TEAMFREEDOMgg/status/815047593461972993

BSJ IXMIKE on same team
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THE GAME IS LITERALLY PHYSICALLY PAINFUL TO PLAY NOW. I GET MASSIVE HEADACHES JUST FROM ATTEMPTING TO ADAPT TO THE UI

ROLL BACK THE PATCH YOU STUPID FUCKS

GIVE ME MY DOTA BACK

I JUST WANT TO ENJOY THE GAME AGAIN
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>>164174676
>hero automatically does more average damage than any other hero except maybe jugg
>is always fun

who'd have thunk
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>>164171386
>regular sports aren't corrupt
yes, because an industry that has a huge mafia/street gang connection and a multi million collar betting industry ran by said gangs and mafias totally isn't corrupt in any way
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>>164174910
i feel the same way, although i dont care about the UI because theyll fix it eventually. its the shitty game related changes that have me sad
>>
I bought every battle pass and compendium
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>>164174479
Huskar only needs level 6 to blow up carries. His heal is great on allies.
All he might need is tranquils and a soul ring.
He can be a support easy.
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>>164175059
>theyll fix it eventually
oh anon...
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>>164173110
He won an oscar for best actor in The Revenant. C'mon you dotards.
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>>164174829
didnt BSJ get second place at Boston?
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at this point I would literally give valve $50 to have the old patch back. This isnt a issue with adaption, this is the game getting strictly worse
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>>164175235
it was a pity oscar, doesn't even count
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>>164175146
t alberto barbosa
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>>164175318
I mean that's still a pity oscar. It's not like a golden dood with a friggin' benis as a head.
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>>164170903
it took Valve at least 3 weeks to ban the peruvians and they did so very quietly.

The chinese situation just came to light and is a much more serious development. Im confident that valve will do something
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>>164175430
>just came to light
>November 13th
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>>164175564
>reddit larpers
lol
>>
envy is so hilarious to watch
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>>164175430
>Im confident that valve will do something
Kek
When will you dick suckers learn?
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>>164175430
its fucking disgusting of valve to ban peruvians
over what? match fixing?
why does VALVE care about match fixing, what relevance does that have to valve or their tournaments...
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Why haven't you switched to the thinking man's role yet?
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>>164175059
why do you assume they'll fix the UI but not that icefrog will eventually stumble the balance into something versatile?

6.82/.83 was the same shit with all the changes at once but by the time of .88 the meta was pretty varied and i'd say nuanced outside of obvious isolated cancer like alch and SD strats.
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>>164176014
because hes never deleted items or deleted things theyve added to the game, only adjusted numbers and stuff. this means talents, shrines, scan, and all the map changes are going to stay and the old dota will never come back. it will just be adjusted to be halfway closer to what it was.
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>>164175891
match fixing certainly deserves a ban, whether or not it deserves a full lifetime ban im not sure but they were simply being consistent with other bans that they have done in CSGO.

Although Solo was caught doing the same thing (the origin of the 322 meme) and only received a 1 year ban from starladder but that was before valve had any opinion on betting on matches

either way peruvians are all fucking scum and having fewer of them around is strictly a positive thing
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>>164175891
>why does VALVE care about match fixing, what relevance does that have to valve or their tournaments...

Maybe they don't want to be associated with corrupt business practices?

It's also illegal you fucktard.
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>>164176196
why?
Why would valve have any interest in banning match fixing
The ONLY THING IT EFFECTS is the betting sites & people who bet
thats it

It has no effect on valve
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>>164176259
it still has NOTHING to do with valve
and banning ALL OF PERU from pro dota because of it is insane
They are a huge part of the player base, and now have no representation at the pro level

At the end of the day the only reason they are doing this is because they NEED THE MONEY to continue playing as pro

So Valve is only hurting themselves & their game by banning them.
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>>164176123

Wrong

Mortal Strike's active component got reverted back to strictly a passive once again shortly after it was added
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Is there a post roulette for dota heroes?
I never spammed a hero and I kinda want to.
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>>164176272
Because it means they are untrustworthy people and would be willing to do something similar or outright cheat in valve events. It also plain makes the scene look bad.

That being said im 100% certain that they didnt actually give a fuck about what the peruvians did and only commuted the ban because it happened around the same time as the high profile IBP scandal in CSGO over the exact same circumstances that led to permanent bans
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>Peruvians
>ever reaching pro levels
lmao
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>>164176123
you haven't explained how all those new things are inherently bad

did you complain when glyph was introduced? what about backdoor regen? do you feel like the 5.84 jungle should come back???
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>>164176272
Are you actually this retarded or did I really get baited?

>Valve owns a game that's worth a shit ton because of the multiplayer aspect
>Why would Valve care about the integrity of the pro scene of their game thats brings them hundreds of millions of dollars

The game is literally balanced around 5v5 pro dota but less Peruvians playing Dota will literally never be a bad thing.
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>play on eu west
>get four russian retards on my team

>play on us east/west
>get four peruvian retards on my team

>play on sea
>get four pinoy retards on my team
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I WANT
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TO
CRUSH
ME
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>>164176387
it sucks for the peruvians but they did it to themselves. Its very difficult to have any sort of sympathy when they are perhaps my least favorite aspect of playing dota
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>>164176401
>one example out of hundreds
honestly i tried to think of one but i couldnt. im sure it happened, just barely ever. also thats a hardly significant thing at all.

>>164176503
they dont add anything to the game other than making everything a giant mess. talents would be fine if they werent so wild and game changing except at level 25 or something.
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>>164176387
>it still has NOTHING to do with valve

It's their game, it has everything to do with them.
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>>164175430
>Im confident that valve will do something

If you can write a coherent sentence in english you're already a minority in Dota and your opinion is absolutely worthless for Valve
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>>164176536
you're russian/peruvian and pinoy

how does that work? was it your dad is russian and your mom is peruvian/pinoy
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>>164176482
>and would be willing to do something similar or outright cheat in valve events
This has nothing to do with Valve though
You can't CHEAT in dota, unless you are asian and valve gives you admin access to watch other peoples private scrims
Match rigging happens all the fucking time, its impossible to prove unless they implicate themselves

It is absolutely retarded of Valve to go overboard with permanent bans, likely only because reddit complained

>>164176529
??????????
It only effects BETTING
Does valve take a cut from the betting sites? Maybe.
But it doesn't effect valve, it wouldn't effect cosmetic/compendium purchases.
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>>164176760
EPIC XD
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>>164176593
she already does every fucking pub
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>>164176715
how do you know they don't add anything to the game? shrines alone have changed early game and laning dynamics a lot already even without any tournament showing what the meta is and all the pubs copying it like it usually happens

i don't think most talents are particularly wild, a lot of them are just stat boosts that sort of fill the void left by the removal of the +2 skill points when all is said and done.
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>>164176819
but i dont have this game installed and havent had it for a year
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>>164176715
>Pre 6.75: Morphling can attack and use spells and items during Waveform
>6.75: Morphling can no longer attack or use spells or items during Waveform
>6.80: Morphling can now attack and use spells and items during Waveform

MANY SUCH CASES
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>>164176536
>everyone is a retard but me
whiny ameritards are among the worst
>>
REFRESH GUYS (YOU) IS BACK
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>>164176935
tfw no luna gf
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>>164175564
ok thanks
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>>164176965
>mfw its real
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So is core/damage dealer Lich just a meme, or did ColdToad actually want that option available for him with his new talents?
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>>164176965
I don't get it, I never lose (You)s when everyone was complaining about it.

Most people are using 4chan X right?
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>>164176945
>many such insignificant cases
ftfy. show me a case where they added a giant game mechanic such as shrines and then took them away when they realized they were bad.

>i don't think most talents are particularly wild, a lot of them are just stat boosts that sort of fill the void left by the removal of the +2 skill points when all is said and done.
not at all. thats what they should be. but instead theyre being used to radically change heroes or to balance heroes at precisely a specific level where they fall off or whatever. its lazy and boring. this is why we didnt get ACTUAL fundamental hero changes this patch.
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>>164177140
>pre 6.75 Morphling was insignificant

Your new is showing, that whole TI was nothing but Morphling
>>
>yous are back

This better not be a honeypot
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>>164177132
I'm not
lotta people aren't
also I think mobile posters dont have 4chanx?? dnno
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>>164177083
It's absolutely a meme, Lich's abilities are not built around him fighting.

You put him up against a real carry and he folds like paper.
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>>164177140
a reply to >>164176876
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>>164177232
lets find out
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>>164177250
Only if you build him like a support. Ice armor already gives him a sizeable advantage vs enemy carries.
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>>164177140
>but instead theyre being used to radically change heroes
such as?

>balance heroes at precisely a specific level where they fall off or whatever
they are power boosts, yes. most heroes that fall off, still fall off regardless of talents. or do you think +4 targets for mana drain makes lion a lategame powerhouse?

>this is why we didnt get ACTUAL fundamental hero changes this patch.
which we'll get in subsequent patches. we'll also get more and more balance updates to the talents themselves, you can't expect all of them to work at once from day 1. there's like 800 of them.
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>>164177009
iknowthatfeelbro
>>
What are the biggest honeypot talents in the game?
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>>164177373
And all those heroes who have multiple abilities that make them hit harder gives them a much more sizeable advantage Vs. Lich.

Lich is fucking food for carries because he has no stun and an unreliable ult.
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>>164177214
>YOURE NEW LOLZZ
nice argument faggot

>>164177392
>such as?
lich
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>>164177468
anything which is the choice opposite cooldown reduction
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>>164177536
oh sweet! Now I can feed even faster in the late game! thanks frost toad
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>alright guys now that we destroyed all enemy T2 we should kill the shrines so they can't TP there and smoke behind us while pushing
>they all proceed to farm the jungle
>guys please listen we might lose the game
>"dude fuck off who cares about those shit"
>fast forward
>pushing mid... suddenly 5 man gank from behind
>we got wiped
>"wtf where did they come from? all T2's are dead????"
>guys I told you to kill it...
>"no u didn't u fucking idiot go report this guy for not cooperating"
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>>164177468
+40 duel damage

>>164177505
>lich
do i really need to remind you that carry lich was already a thing (with a +70% w/r) before this patch? the +150 damage just makes it a smoother transition
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>>164176786
>you cant cheat in dota
match fixing is a form of cheating. If they were willing to throw a game to get a couple hundred dollars why wouldnt they be willing to bribe other teams for easy wins to get better placements in LANs?

Not to mention that Valve has a reputation to uphold. One of Dota's core strengths is the fact that it has an extremely healthy esports scene with plenty of 3rd party involvement and a growing playerbase. Protecting this image is very productive for them in the long run.

Is the offense large enough to warrant a life time ban? probably not but in the end they are only banned from Valve events and can still participate in 3rd party tournaments. Im not saying that I agree with how it was handled but again its very difficult to have sympathy for peruvians.
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>youvotes are back

Shitposters and memers always win in the end
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What is the proper item build for undying? I like the hero but I don't understand him.

I normally go arcane boots, blade mail, scepter

Is that a bad build? Also, what do I get for starting items?
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>>164177593
>confusing cooldown reduction with respawn time reduction
based 0.2k mmrbro
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>>164177636
>do i really need to remind you that carry lich was already a thing (with a +70% w/r) before this patch? the +150 damage just makes it a smoother transition
if youre just going to try to excuse everything they do, why even ask? youre obviously not genuinely wondering about the answer. you just want to excuse whatever answer is given to you.
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>>164177698
You rush Guardian Greaves then literally whatever your team needs.

You need to stay alive in fights to heal your team mates and keep the Flesh Golem aura active.
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>>164177734
i'm not genuinely wondering about the answer because i know that i am right. it's called rhetorics.

besides, even if i were to concede lich, you gave 1 example out of 1 half of 1 talent choice from 100+ heroes. you did not point out something inherently bad about the concept of talents existing, you just said you dislike this or that talent. they're gonna be changed all the time, just like normal abilities. it's called balance.
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>>164177698
Scepter isn't really necessary unless they have a lot of STR heroes. Blademail is usually a decent pickup as is AC.
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>>164177505
>get proved wrong thrice
>resorts to ad hominem

And before you even try it, no, calling you new isn't ad hominem, it just states your condition of not knowing about the game at all since you're just starting, now it would be a good time to stop trying to pass uninformed opinions as argument
>>
>>164177698

It really depends on what the enemy lineup is like. Your build with him will likely vary between games.

Anything that makes him tankier is good. Anything that gives your team auras is good. Your job is to be a fat dick with a fatter dick that spawns mini dicks during team fights. Suck their strength, save your allies, and survive as long as you can. Whichever items help you do that best in the current game is what you should build.

Vlads, Mek, Greaves, Blademail, Crimson Guard, Force Staff, Glimmer Cape, etc are all good. Aghs is great if you have lots of gold and don't think your team needs any other help with other items.
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>>164177670
>People who match fix for hundreds/thousands of dollars can afford to bribe teams to drop out in million dollar tournaments

The match fixing was in meaningless tournaments/matches
You obviously don't match fix in a real game where you are playing for money, because their winnings for coming in 5th place or w/e at a TI will be way more than throwing a loser bracket game.

Also teams losing on purpose happens ALL THE TIME
EG does it fucking every tournament

I don't see how peru's match fixing in a peruvian tournament reflects at all on dota or valve. Valve tournaments are all the big one which they can sell compendiums to fund, so it just kills these guys careers.

I've never seen a peruvian intentionally feed in one of my games either.
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>>164176786
>this has nothing to do with valve though
literally every major sporting organization in the world heavily punishes match fixing. Should fifa simply look the other way and say that it isnt there problem when it occurs?
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>>164177956
>besides, even if i were to concede lich, you gave 1 example out of 1 half of 1 talent choice from 100+ heroes.
you didnt ask for more than one. and theres no reason to give more now that you "know youre right" which is a hilariously stupid thing to say.
>>
Is it time to switch to battlerite when it finally becomes f2p?
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>>164178104
Normie sports can do their dumb normie behavior

But this is video games.
>>
Honestly ranked is a fucking joke, I don't know why I bother playing it.
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>>164178273

Battlerite gets kind of stale after a few weeks. Plus unless you buy now it's going to have leauge-style grind to unlock the rest of the heroes shit going on.
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>>164178308
I mean there's no different between killing a gamer and killing a sports player.
>Normie sports can do their dumb normie behavior but this is videogames.
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>>164178457
No the point is its dumb to do it in irl, and we don't need to copy their dumb normie sensibilities
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>>164178084
does anyone serously think EG intentionally lost games

i'd be more suspect of any team that lost to a ruru managed team desu

it was probably more their strat stealing that led to upsets or "thrown" games
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>>164178210
it's not a matter of how many examples you can give. if your complaint boils down to wanting a number/input to be changed, then it's not a complaint about talents as a concept and your call for them to be removed entirely remains unsupported.

if you want my opinion, talents didn't need to exist. they're fake complexity. but they don't really ruin the game or harm it in a significant way other than making it more bothersome to balance by introducing 800+ new inputs. they're just sort of there, a new thing to learn and then treat as normal.

people had these same complaints when bounty runes happened. nowadays they are second nature.
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>>164178536
woops meant to post that on /sp/ xddd
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>>164178576
ppd confirmed that he basically threw the games vs alliance at TI since it didn't influence them
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>>164178690

based /sp/bro

>>164178830
where did he say that
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>>164178578
i never said i wanted them removed entirely. try reading again. and they absolutely ruin the game when a support hero now has some whacky talent that gives him 150 damage right click skadi for no reason, as an example. the talents are shit. i am not talking about the concept of a talent. i am talking about the implementation. they have ruined the game along with all the other shitty new mechanics, which will also never be removed because valve doesnt remove major mechanics like this.
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>>164178084
in some cases like in group stages situations could pop up where 1 team has a strong lead in the group while the other team needs the win to not start off in the lower bracket or get a bad seed. In these cases bribing the stronger team to throw the game could be mutually beneficial to to the two teams involved while fucking over the other teams in the group.

Either way its a moot point because it simply comes down to valve protecting the integrity and image of their game. Cheaters dont belong in a professional competitive environment.

>ive never seen a peruvian intentionally feed in one of my games either
we are playing two different games then. Im currently bouncing around 4.7k with maybe 30-50% of players being peruvian. Maybe 90% of intentional feeders, flamers, DCers, and pub stomp hero pickers have been peruvian.

When I play non ranked games this problem is much MUCH worse. There is a reason why peruvians have such a bad reputation in this game, at some point you cant just wave away all the criticism as racism.

http://www.dotafire.com/dota-2/guide/honest-goos-guide-to-per-with-slang-dictionary-22001
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>>164178853
on a twitch stream, can't remember if it was the EGcast or just his regular stream

he said it because he was talking about how loda was being a salty faggot after he gave him the free wins
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>>164178830
theres a difference between not trying in a game because it doesnt matter if you win or lose to throwing a game for money or bribing your way to a win
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>>164138812
Only buy wards when you need. The observer ward stock doesn't need to be empty all the time. Just make sure it doesn't hit 4, because then the stock is charging and missing wards in total.

Buying sentries is fine, but only, ONLY, ever place them to deward if you're 100% sure that there is an enemy ward somewhere. If you deward an enemy observer, you get your 100 gold back. If you're ever versing an invis hero, make sure you place a sentry down out of range when you're attacking an enemy tower. That way if they try to initiate with invis, you can get the jump on them instead.
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There is literally no point to play this game, whatever you do you literally cannot carry the game on your own and you will ALWAYS depend on your team mates, example:

1- I played a razor game where I crushed my lane ( I was solo offlane up against two melee)

I was ahead in farm, kills, xp, and even got their tower.

Ended up losing the game because all my other team mates are braindead/fed.

2- I was also playing solo offlane razor against two melee heroes, I died once and my first pick mid pudge said " Report razor feed ", I was having a shitty day and decided to ruin his game and actually feed, I bought all the wards and used them outside our fountain, bought a gem and fed it, fed couriers, when my team decided to rosh I snatched the aegis and fed it, walked down and bought all the tomes and used it on myself, I ping spammed and flamed my pudge until he broke down and almost cried on the mic.

Guess what happened? I got carried and won the game even with my desperate attempts to do the exact opposite.

Remember guys, you are not the only factor in your team, you cannot decide if you win or lose, RNG or forced 50% will decide that for you.
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>>164179012
So basically you have no evidence.
On a twitch stream, dont remember when, Envy said that whatever team he is in is just a filler team to give free wins to the better teams and create a false sense of competition.

Its true, realy.
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>>164178867
>i am talking about the implementation
and literally my first response was that regardless of the current state, it's still possible to assume icefrog will reach a better and more balanced meta in a few patches' time. perhaps longer than it took after 6.82, but in due time it will happen.

i'd be way more worried about certain 'balance' changes that seem minor but show a shitty interventionist philosophy that reeks of Riot, such as what they did with PA's dagger after the support meme became even slightly popular. it's not an usual icefrog practice to literally remove a new flourishing strategy from the game in such a kneejerk way and i'd rather not have instances of that approach to balance becoming more frequent.
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>>164179154

Why do people play a team game without a team?
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>>164178950
I understand that, but thats the case for any situation where 2 teams are friends or owned by the same person or are from the same region.
There is no way to tell if you are throwing a dota game unless they self-incriminate like the peruvians did.

>Cheaters dont belong in a professional competitive environment.
But this is not cheating
Obviously cheating should be punished & not allowed
But throwing games for the free items/money is nothing meaningful

It's always the whitey who can understand your flames/can't handle the banter and gives up. I've not had too much problem with peruvians doing that.
US east would be fucking dead without the peruvians, they are over half the player base
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>>164179173
whatever I dont give a shit if you believe me or not
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>Won a game with a carry ogre that dived a 1v4

Fucking shit it feels soo good, i tough we were going to losee desu
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>>164179220
>and literally my first response was that regardless of the current state, it's still possible to assume icefrog will reach a better and more balanced meta in a few patches' time.
no its not, because of all the other additions that are shit. and because of the fact that their implementation is clearly being used to radically transform heroes, augment heroes at their weak points, balance heroes, etc. which further makes is very unlikely that any "balance" or change in the future will ever move dota back to the greatness it was before.
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what do you think omniknight smells like haha just asking for a friend.
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>>164179413
to be honest, you seem completely delusional and you reek of a 2015-er. anyone who has been playing this game long enough has seen a fair share of far more "gamebreaking" changes at first glance turn out to be completely normalized and inconsequential to the essence of the game in the long run. if this is your first experience with a major patch, then just let time pass and you'll see what i'm saying.
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>>164179518
Good 4chanpost
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>>164179276
>But throwing games for the free items/money is nothing meaningful
This is wrong, it makes the scene look bad and creates more drama than it worth, its best to have a zero tolerance policy to prevent teams from doing this.

>It's always the whitey who can understand your flames
because they arnt fucking speaking english on an english server.
>I've not had too much problem with peruvians doing that.
again, we are playing two separate games. White people dont spam ..I.. when they die, they dont feed couriers down mid when they dont get to play the role that they play. They dont play at internet cafes in droves on public accounts and simply leave games when they are losing.
>US east would be fucking dead without the peruvians, they are over half the player base
this I agree with and is an unfortunate truth. This can be fixed by matching people in teams based on region. That way Peruvians can play on servers where they get the less lag and there are no more language barrier issues.
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>>164179276
I would literally prefer 30 minute queues if it meant I got to play with 4 other english speaking teammates

Two of my friends were turned away from dota because of spanish speaking players. You cant even pretend to say that it isnt an issue
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>>164179518
Vanilla and honey
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>>164179570
>cant argue the point
>Youre delusional 2015er!
kill yourself valve apologist. if anything, it seems like youre the one who is having delusions that this game wasnt ruined because its the only thing that you hold dear in life so youre in denial about it. this game is trashed and if you defend it, it will never be fixed. enjoy your battlepass, queer.
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>>164179413

Before, there were only a handful of heroes that benefited from the 10 stat levels, and none that benefitted as much as Morphling who double dips for his stat powered abilities. The point of the talents in one respect is to give heroes the equivalent of +20 stats that directly benefits them.

It also gives a lot more knobs to tweak heroes. Regular abilities must always be tethered to the possibility of being maxed at 7, Now heroes can more directly be changed at certain points in the game, levels 10, 15, 20, and 25.
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>>164179924

My region is absolutely dead regarding Dota

I can be stuck in a 60 minute queue without a single game popping once, i basically cannot even play anymore due to this
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>>164180280
stop queueing on japan idiot
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>>164179924
fuck legitimate issues like fixing the open borders killing US servers. valve will just introduce new casual UI and epic talents so that new LoL players will join the game! (they wont)
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>>164180447
>Hey guys lets firewall out most of the playerbase for US servers hahahaha
>Oh everyone else left because they were tired of long queues into 4.5k average games ?????
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>>164179985
i want to believe
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>>164180447

Can't you just play in a stack of 5?
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>>164180526
>Hey guys lets whore out most of the playerbase for US servers hahahaha
>Oh everyone else left because they were tired of internet cafe account trading Peruvians in their 4.5k average games ?????
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>>164180526
solution: teams are matched based on region/language. You are still allowed to party up with international friends and it puts you in a team based on the party leaders region. Predominately english speaking countries all get put in the english team, spanish in the spanish team, russians in the russian team. Its a perfect middle ground that would not effect queue times much and would make everyone happy.

Its funny because nobody can refute this as being a good idea without admitting that peruvians themselves are an issue.
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>>164180723

If anything the current english speaking players aren't going nowhere at this point, they developed a strange kind of stockholm syndrome of being actively cucked by third world chimps
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or what if valve fixed the peru servers so they actually played their
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>>164180723
????
are you going to try to pretend that US players are white? What difference does it make if some chink living in the US is playing on USE, or a peruvian?
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>>164180953
theres nothing wrong with their servers. stop repeating reddit diversity propaganda.
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>>164181049
they get better ping on usservers, dont think valve has fixed it
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>>164181094
that hasn't been true for years
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>pick bara
>ditch lane and smash head against enemy team as early as 3:00
>get higher gpm than any carry until """mid"""game when theyre able to flashfarm
The more things i find out about this patch the more i hate it
This game fucking sucks, i just had one that was pure 5v5 from 10 minutes onward. Its so god damn boring
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>>164181094
no they dont. stop repeating reddit lies faggot. http://www.dotafire.com/dota-2/guide/honest-goos-guide-to-per-with-slang-dictionary-22001
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>>164180953
it still wouldnt be fixed. connection is not the only issue

http://www.dotafire.com/dota-2/guide/honest-goos-guide-to-per-with-slang-dictionary-22001#chapter4

>Brazil is why. You know how having people that dont speak your language pisses you off? Well, this happens a lot in the south America server, when more than half of the players over there are Brazilian and speak Portuguese. Some cabinas a worse than others, some have ****py connections and they dont have an option but to play in SA server, but when they can, they will queue to Us east just to get rid of the stupid Brazilians.

>This is yet another negative, since they get really high pings (190+ US east and 220+ US west), on top of not knowing the language they are pretty much playing solo, and that is 4v5 for the rest.

>And lastly, and the most ironic of all of the reasons: They do not why to play with other Peruvians. Why? Well, they know from first hand that cabina players can just leave a match if they get pissed (if using public accounts) and that overall, they are unpleasant players, badly mannered, make stupid mistakes ingame like being 1v5 aggressive and feeding themselves, they have little game knowledge (for the fact that they only come and play and learn from experience, will talk about that later on), etc.To this list add 12 year old undecipherable squeaking that gets mad for literally everything that happens to him ingame and you got yourself a ni±o rata (so called Rat Kids).


tldr: even peruvians know that their kind are scum and actively try to get away from themselves
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>>164181094

That was true for like 6 months after the server launch, hasn't been like that for several years
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>>164181094
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>>164179154
Can confirm, tried my hardest in one game - lose, another decide to feed rapiers because one guy is bent on shit talking me for some reason - win. Shit game.
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>>164181181
>>164181365
fuck you guys I checked and it was fixed in august
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>>164181515
>>164181515
>>164181515
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>>164181190
quack quack *drops a shit in the grass*
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For PA what skills should I get? I usually go 15 damage, 10% life steal, 35 attack speed, then double dagger. But recently I've been told that double dagger is bad so I was thinking maybe I'm picking the wrong abilities too
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>>164179154
How to pkay Dota:

1. play pubs and make friends who play dota
2. play dota with your new friends alot
3. as you and your friends get better at the game, start participating in battle cups and party matchmaking often
4. Once you have a solid few friends you can play well with, try to play in small tournaments/participate in qualifiers if you can
5. Git Gud

boom, pro level dota. Enjoy winning 200k for last place at TI7
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>>164140092
lost
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>>164154310
What is this? Where is this from?
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