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Nothing going on

>Breach league
https://www.pathofexile.com/breach
>2.5 patch notes
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1773975
>Ascendancy Offline Skill Planner
https://github.com/EmmittJ/PoESkillTree/releases/
>Helpful links
http://pastebin.com/1GThtBUt
>"Hey guys what's the price on this piece of shit item"
http://poe.trade/
>Wiki
http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Path_of_Exile_Wiki
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lol anime poster is a shitcrow that didnt even dare to make a thread
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What hipster build are you gonna play this league
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Horrible OP
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What's so good about Vaal Winds?
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>>164080125
howa crit wildstrike
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wax0f8liVA&feature=youtu.be&t=40s

Woah... so this is the power... of CI...
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>tfw I hit a wall due to gear
I am fucking stuck. I only have 5.3k ES with a 5L regalia and 4.2k es with a Skin of the Loyal.
Even worse, I still use conjurer gloves becuase of it attack speed
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what do i make this marauder?
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>>164080513
run fucking discipline
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>>164080561
those are stats with discipline
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>>164080513
L when I'm over 8k ES without even using a shield
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>>164080656
That shit cant even be considered gear.......
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>Tfw life is harder to get than ES, you need to get chaos res and some other mitigation

wtf poetards
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>>164080513
you can hit 8k es with like 20c worth of gear
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>>164080838
>life is harder to get than ES
>you start with 50, and get +12 for free every level
interesting opinion, what's your highest level on BHC?
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>>164081041
How?
I am running meme hands so I need int on every piece too.
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>>164080513
so get better gear, you can get a 500 es chest with just alts+regal with mastercraft and 200-300 on the other slots should be cheap.
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>>164081151
>skin of the loyal without shield
no anon just no
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>>164081034
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>>164080125
Max aura/crit frostbreath ice crashing inquisitor.
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>>164081208
what would you look for with alts flat and int?
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>>164079997
Sorry to be this asshole, but what the hell is up pic?

Not played in a while and was thinking of picking it up again, but I don't remember that.
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>>164081151
now thats a whole nother story

try not getting int on every piece, you will hardly need any int on gear to faceroll up till t10.

get a crystal belt
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>>164081103
92 :(
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>reach tier 12
>still in a 4L
>still poor as fuck
I just dont get this game
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>>164081364
A zoom of Witch's delicate feet wearing Wanderlust and a collage of golden statue vaginas from Solaris temple, the juxtaposition creating an elegant allegory of the duality of life, where purity and decadence converge together
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>>164081594
>reach a2n
>have about 3c of raw currency
>buy a 5 link

fucking retard
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>>164081594
Nigga what, i have a slayer on T9 and a gladiator at cruel act4, and both have found 3x 5-links already. And I don't even need majority of those cuz I'm running Bringer of Rain.
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Is it okay to want to fuck the Witch but be utterly disgusted by her feet?
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>>164082554
No, it's not.
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>>164082554
yes its perfectly fine
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>>164082668
Too bad.
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>>164081361
high flat roll
that's it
suffix doesn't matter, it's nice to roll a resist
regal doesn't matter as long as it's not a shit % roll. resists are nice and a hybrid % roll is ideal (like, exalt-worthy)
mastercraft on a % es roll and you have an ES version of kaom's but with sockets
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>>164080513
It's only like 3ex to buy a deck of ethereal
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>>164083509
>only
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>>164081295
Is it an actual DOUBLE damage multiplier with the weapon or is it just some lame 100% increase that doesn't stack well at all?
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>>164083614
does anyone have a full list of the new uniques from 2.5.0 that aren't breach league specific?
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>>164083550
thats like 10 hours of maps
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>>164083904
thats like 30c for me
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>>164083971
stop wasting time on not killing things
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aight time to get cucked
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>>164083614
It is DOUBLE. Its a really fucking shit base and stats so hitting any meaningful damage seems impossible.
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>chaos roll a juicy as hell spectral throw projectile speed hubris circlet
>use it
>it actually harms my clear speed dps because the projectiles go so far it takes longer for them to come back and deal return damage to mobs
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nvm i didn't get cucked ez money
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>>164085480
now you can always use slower proj
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>>164085848
post your league and I'll decide whether you got cucked or not
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>>164086030
Here' i'll show you alongside the "oops i put a fuckton of sextants on putrid because i was sextanting courtyards" mods of this putrid cloister i just ran
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>>164086560
post your build and I'll decide whether you got cucked or not
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>>164086703
animate weapon
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>>164086560
Get any good cards? How many stacked decks?
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>>164086912
yeah you're a cuck
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>>164087080
Out of curiosity, what would have been an acceptable answer?
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>>164087194
True Melee build
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>>164087067
4 stacked decks
got a void card and enlightened, cba selling void so turned it in and got i79 amulet kek
enlightened paid off the map but thats about it
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lot of cat pictures missing in this thread
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>>164087194
>implying you wouldn't get that response no matter what you posted

you're on 2016 4chan senpai
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>>164087283
I got 40 scroll from my "from the void"
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>>164086912
>being worried about chayula with one of the biggest faceroll builds of this league
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>>164087080
basically was expecting >>164087314

>>164087389
they're retarded overpriced but sometimes you get lucky, last league i got a 6 link ilvl100 from one

>>164087705
i was worried about the loot not the run
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Should I be enchanting white ilvl 84 hubris circlets or buy decent 300-400 es ones and enchant them instead?
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>>164088270
white
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Buy 6-link regalia and roll it or roll one and then link it?
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I miss the time when we just all post memes and be autistic and not talk about the game.
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dumb catposter
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>>164088270
Either one works desu but white is a lot easier to profit off of

>>164088490
depends, crafting can be a pain in the ass sometimes, but so can fusing. buying a 6 link is probably a little safer since you're probably able to get away with like a 650-700 chest until you feel like crafting some more
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bought a new Decay dagger
pretty good
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https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAABAICAK_rAdGiQPT4oSLEorvj_rp9ddN-EYFl07GzG617FASxY6fdRnbnZ6DvevajFSAtgxm0vqdlTb02R351y-pizZiNfqTCQzHawXTtBS167y5T028yCWxGFHVybCpNPydKyFpSqJp7w26qtfI1kv6PTeOmV1ivqW55aNi9fVtFluss4oBMMqxHUUzKSm-e8bNLV8DjOFN314tPKCqXeeRRUEfvDhQgXz_BBAHcd-OE2RiRvJ_8SxRNVvo26MAaIq9vO4Zg_gryRTrhjX1NkiP2o4rdDVuvh3YNjeOfSn1I7j3ieK5xQ7EBE9oVQ89eMn46UngN

I'm running out of ideas. This is my Molten Strike Deadeye.

Give me feedback And please tell me there's an existing, better version of this
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>>164089668
Is this a joke to you?
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>>164089872
This is why I'm asking for citique, because I kinda just threw shit together while making I had ~200% life
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Not sure if I should settle on really good ES/INT/Resist boots. Or hold out and pay top dollar foor ones with movement speed when I see them. I t's been 2 days with none so far with the resists I need
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>>164089668
fuck that evasion wheel

get those life flask nodes and get that jewel socket on the way up there instead of 2 points into the duelist (seriously the life flask nodes are bugged and give like double hp regen)

idk, seems like you're not sure on a 1 hander to use to, obviously you wanna go noncrit but eh...

I know one thing you can do is if you get the flask nodes with pathfinder dying sun gives you an extra projectile and dying sun is pretty amazing for molten strikers, but you're not even close to that area so yeah

i think the build will work but its not gonna be fast clear speed obviously, the single target should be pretty decent compared to your clear tho

>>164090170
if you use whirling blades and have ok attack speed you can live with no movespeed, but thats up to you. having no movespeed mostly sucks for things like hydra
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>>164083806
http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Timeline_of_unique_items

>>164085290
Possibly with those essence crafted rings that get cold damage per frenzy charge and go raider?
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>>164090332
I think a Dying Sun is a bit beyond my budget but thanks for the other points senpai.
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>>164090465
I figured as much, I feel like you probably would have made a crit ci build if you had the budget for a dying sun
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>>164089668
>>164089940
https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAABAICAABeAdwEsQUtCC4NjQ48EYET2hQgFE0UcRR1FUMYkRjbGY4brSKvI9Mj9igqKaUuUzIJMn41kjboOFM6UjrhQzFHfkp9TP9Nkk3jTipQR1b6WK9br18_Y6dlTWXTZ6BsRm8nbztxQ3JsdO108XXLdud313fjeA15aHrvexR9dYIHhNmGYId2i0-NfY1-j2CXeZpqm42jiqTCplepbq_rsQGxs7Xyu-O8n702vqfAGsEExKLNmM9e02_Tfti92Xzawd1G45_kUepi7YPuDu8O73ryRfxL_gr-j_66

Here you go. It's probably still ass but at least it's a bit less ass.
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Updated. Tell me where I fucked up again
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>>164090332
I'd still have 5% on my belt, but yeah none on boots. It's just getting dire when lately I see no good int/es boots with movespeed and it's holding me back from using my new gloves/belt due to resists.

I use leap slam, just quicksilver pots for movement though ;-;. I need the leapslam with fortify as well. I guess I could switch faster attacks with it, but it seems pretty meh
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>>164090765
What the fuck is this shit?
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>>164090905
I'm gonna need you to be more specific.
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>>164090334
I really wanted to make a Nuro's raider build based around those frenzy rings and a quiver. Seems like it has a lot of synergy with Raider, too.

Unfortunately, Essence of Horror is 20c each and you'd have to go through dozens before you got a set of rings which would be acceptable (IE, have flat cold damage and life as well).

Maybe I'll try it in standard when the league ends.
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Like my 4th time losing a high lvl, well geared, HC character to bleed that I didn't even notice.

Uninstalled game and need something new to play.
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>>164089668
I'd do this. Played my fair share of Molten Strike back in the day.

Berserking is shit damage. A Jewel socket beats it easily. You needed your mana issue fixed, so mana leech was grabbed. Don't waste gear affixes with that shit. Evasion is a shit dice roll defense, Life Leech is consistent and strong. Especially with access to the Duelist's Leech Ring.

https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAABAICAGOnfXVbr91GFHUUTcAaMHHdqI1-OkL8S82YE9oYkQ2Njb-kwjfUEYH0-Jd5_o8AXmXTAdzI3HXLeu9Yr6luBS13404qQzE6UiPTz17Tb702TeNxQxmKjM9fP6JA458VQwHR7w6LT-4OSO68n9i9G60UIDhTdO0j9vZI1CMZjsM6vqfawbvjTZJHfjrhWGNlTQgu_gqGYDboMHyHdu0_hNkuU5pqxKIoKrGz7YN5aCo4wQQ94lBHoSIyfm87S3jqYlb65FGjilFHTP-v63gN036NfTWS_rp4rpcGduemV7EBtfI9_G8n8kUir0p9_MU=

Get a Vinktar to boost your Boss dps. Vaal Lightning Trap will do until you get one. If you aren't comfortable with Vaal Pact you'll hate running lab. If you want stronger flasks grab a Bloodgrip. I highly recommend it for any Life build.

Pathfinder with Dying Sun would be best, but most expensive.
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>>164089668
I would do this and use ngamahu (i'm not sure how much it costs now) and i dunno if deadeye is the best choice, raider is probably stronger since you're near a bunch of frenzy nodes

poeurl.com/YaR
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>>164091449
>acro with shield
Ytho
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>>164091418
Candy Crush
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>>164091548
I was considering Ngamahu's as well but it's a bit pricey for me at the moment in BHC, abut I'm willing to farm 20 more chaos to get it if this build works out for me
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>>164090765
most of what >>164091449 said is fairly accurate, though idk if i agree with taking the single mana leech with extra leech rate instead of just getting the life + mana leech in duelist area, nor am i totally sure about acro and shit though it does add an extra layer of defense and will give you more mitigation than your block for the most part

i also don't really agree with evasion being totally shit with Perfect Form being in the game now but thats a different topic
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>>164091619
>shield only: 30% attack mitigation
>acro+phase acro+shield: 20% block+40% dodge+30% spell dodge for 60% attack mitigation and 30% spell mitigation

One of this is better than the other.
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Client that doesn't perform like literal trash when?
Have the devs even pretended to care at some point, or do we have to accept that the game is going to lock up all the time?
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I sperg out and have to relog every single time I make a trade because I dont know how to leave party and dont want to be considered creepy lingering around

please tell me how to do it, right clicking name doesnt bring up a option like I would figure it would
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>tfw not even done with first build and thinking about the second
anyone else? have this problem?
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>>164091892
20 block +40 dodge doesn't equal 60

if i have 50 block and 50 dodge that doesn't make me immortal
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>>164091930
Bind your social tab to something you can remember. Hit it and the "leave party" is next to your portrait.
I mean it took me a while to figure out as well but at least I'm not as much of a sperg as you lmao
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>tfw no organize button on stash tabs that places the items in the most efficient way
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>>164092314
I remember when sorting blocks was a game in itself and people enjoyed it
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poeurl.com/YaS
maybe something like this
and then we poeurl.com/YaW
and finally we throw of deadeye and go berserker with vaal pact
poeurl.com/YaX
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>>164092418
At least you could turn those blocks
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>>164091873
>>164091449

The tree has 210% life with like 250 Strength. It should reach 5.5k to 6.5k, which is good, but not great for T13+ as a true melee build. It's 1h+Shield so Kaom's is out. Next best option I could think of was the combined mitigation of Insta-Leech, Fortify, Block, Dodge, Spell Dodge to make getting one-shot or getting unlucky as fuck the build's only fear.
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>>164092123
did you really have to make me feel bad just to make yourself feel better?
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>>164092812
yes fuck you
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>>164092705
don't forget about fortify desu
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why is crit such a fucking complicated mess in this game

one skill is 50% melee crit chance
one skill is 75% weapon crit chance while dwing
one skill is 60% crit chance with swords
one skill is 16% crit chance

how am I supposed to know what these actually translate to, how much they actually affect my crit chance which is all I want to fucking know. I wanna play a video game not do complex math equations
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>>164089438
>30k dps on main dot
how
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>>164094873
probably some sort of life iron will berserker or something
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>>164094570
Every game is complex math equations when you want to git gud at it
Especially this one
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>>164091930
Just stay in party and make them leave first.
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>>164094570
There is nothing complicated about this, you just add all relevant crit modifiers together; that is 201% while d/w swords with melee attacks
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rlly making me think

you think black sun crest with 15% int is better than w.e helm you can get with like 50int for howa.. I think so -_- baka
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>>164091348
I really wanted to make one too but it sucks that Reach of the Council is simply the better weapon for it and it's really lacking on single target.
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>>164095709
With a hubris you get more ES and resistances.
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>>164096071
What if you can resist cap without it though.
Are you sure you get more ES? You can get 100+ int from it. Iono. How much more ES would hubris give you?
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>>164095640
>201% crit chance
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>>164096247
yeah, 201% of 5% of whatever the fuck your swords are
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how important is inc aoe support for lacerate?

Im dirt poor so I cant afford a 6 link. I have 2 5 link chests, one I have lac - multistrike - fire dmg - phys dmg - faster attacks, the other is lac - multistrike - phys dmg - inc aoe - crit strike support. The first one is waaaay better dps, does inc aoe make up for that?
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>>164096565
>math
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>>164096682
listen, it's easy
you just take the weapon base you want to calculate the crit chance for
take its base crit chance
add any 'additional' chance to crit
multiply its crit chance by 1+the sum of local increased chance modifiers, that's the weapon's crit chance
now take all the other increased crit chance modifiers and multiply the weapon's crit chance by 1 + those modifiers

it's only like 6 steps
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>>164096247
>being this pedantic

201% increased Critical Strike Chance
there i even capitalised it according to GGG conventions
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>>164096682
It's just addition then multiplication anon.
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Straight up. Who here thinking right now about stuff?
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>>164097320
I am thinking about a build for next league.

Happily married couple.
Missionary sex between two people who love each other.
Sex for the purpose of procreation.
Hand holding.
Pillow talk.

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>>164097016
>multiply its crit chance by 1+the sum of local increased chance modifiers, that's the weapon's crit chance
>now take all the other increased crit chance modifiers and multiply the weapon's crit chance by 1 + those modifiers

oh i see now, yeah, simple haha
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>the year of our lord 2016
>GGG can't fucking figure out basic bayesian spam filtering techniques so I don't have to see this shit literally every 2 minutes 24/7
How does this shit stand?
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>>164098231
>basic bayesian spam filtering techniques
enlighten us since your mind is still fresh from that compsci introduction class or shut the fuck up, retard
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>>164098231
They couldn't stop the goddamn toucan spamming, you think they'd understand even basic regexes? Or even reducing the character limit per message and implement flooding prevention?
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>>164098439
>you think they'd understand even basic regexes
How do you think the stash search function works?
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>>164098439
If they implement flooding protection how would trade chat function then???
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>>164098231
>can't figure out how to filter
its right here you retard
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>>164098356
http://www.google.com/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naive_Bayes_spam_filtering
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>>164098661
>I have no idea how to explain it so I'll just link the wiki article xD
american college educamation, everyone
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What if you could put gems in flasks?

Like Damage Taken on flask = automatically activates on damage taken
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>>164098737
>implying I am from the hell hole known as the United Shits of America

Why would I want to spend hours typing articles to you when I could just link you to Google and Wikipedia? Honestly...
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>>164098551
Even less excuses to not have a chat blacklist, then.

>>164098553
>using trade chat
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>>164098993
>Even less excuses to not have a chat blacklist, then.
Not really, the two are fundamentally different? You stupid shit. Hurr durrr those experienced programmers have no idea how regex filters work, but I just heard about them from my 101 CompSci class so I'll mention them xD
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>>164098867
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>"101 compsci class" guy re-using the same insult to different posters
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How do you go from a mine, and end up shrunken, and inside a living creature?
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>>164098867
Might be a cool idea for a unique. A flask with two linked sockets and a buff spell on use. Granite Flask with 'During Flask Effect, you have level 15 Molten Shell' and 'Socketed Gems support Molten Shell'
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>>164079997
not a fan of this one
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>Be first time playing game
>Get lots of blue orbs, only work on shitty blue items
>Find only one gold orb, but it's good because it works on gold items
>trade a guy my 20 stacks of shitty blue orbs for gold orbs each

Hah, dumbass got fleeced.
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does weapon range effect sweep?
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>trying to buy something
>player is offline 10 times in a row
My trading experience..
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>>164102284
Yes.
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Man why the fuck is my damage so low? 16k dps with a voltaxic rift and cospri. And why can't I leech sufficiently off bosses? What the fuck I hate this game now.
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>>164079997
>reminder of what is most important
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is 4ex fair for a 6 link hezmana's in BSC?
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>>164102904
Check poe trade?
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>>164102904
poetard?
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>>164102960
>>164102993

kys yourselves
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>>164103028
Shut the fuck up you little bitch and go find out.
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>>164102904
>BSC
Big Soft Cuck
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L17oPmP8ORo
Is Ghudda, dare I say, finished?
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>>164103510
reminder that c9q9md is literally OUR guy
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>>164103632
no his name is not memetic enough, while ghudda reminds of cheese pizza
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thank you for your service mr freeposter
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>>164103510
>keeps getting suspend on twitch for porn links

best streamer
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what is the chance of getting vall gems ?

do I try to vaal myself a cyclone gem, or give up and buy one on poe.trade ?
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>>164102497
i just tested it against some totems and it doesnt seem to affect it man

):

does only AOE increase affect sweep then?

does cyclone increase off weapon range and AOE or just weapon range?
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>>164105679
1/8 iirc
buy
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>>164105679
damn you are poor
ill buy you one if bsc post ign
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DEJA VU!
I've just been in this place before!
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>>164105730
>>164105752
thx, but I'm not that poor :D
I'll buy one
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On average, how much life you gain with Kaom's Heart?
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Anyone have a good summoner guide link? I'm trying to into shit like raise specter and auras.
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>>164106095
on average how much increased life do you have in your tree
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>>164106181
~200%
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>>164106257
you would probably gain ~200% of kaom's life value
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>>164106306
I don't know how it works. I've read people getting 2.7k more life with it but I don't think there are trees with 540% increased life...
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>>164105726
Yes.
Both.

It usually goes like this : namelock scales with weapon range, aoe scales with area radius. Cyclone is an exception since it scales with both.
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>>164106095
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>>164106431
are you retarded?
stop posting here.
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>>164106618
Thanks, I forgot about path of building.
>>164106967
What do you mean, as it can't be or as it I don't know how to do it
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>>164107105
use your common sense
you stupid SHIT
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>>164107172
>use your common sense
I already did
>I don't think there are trees with 540% increased life...

What now
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>>164107219
if the premise is wrong, what does that make the conclusion? right? you're literally retarded

end yourself
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>flicker strike trickster with terminus est
>evasion and ES build
Can it be done bros? I'm thinking of trying this some time in the future with my shadow who still has his skill points unallocated since the reset
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>>164107369
>evasion and ES build
not really, just you're just a regular ES+GR build with some minor avoidance thrown in, hardly what would be called a hybrid build
>Can it be done?
no idea, you probably will have no damage whatsoever
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>>164107296
I don't know what to tell you mang
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>>164107369
>terminus est
you're gonna have no damage unless you go assassin full retard crit
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>>164107510
Well yea, you can't really rely on evasion alone, you also need to stack not-life to actually make it anywhere without getting one-shot every 5 seconds
I don't think the damage is too bad, my issue is that I've never made a crit build so I don't know how much I'd need to keep charges up via crits alone.
Also, there are almost no leech nodes near shadow and I don't know if I can keep ES up via GR with a single measly node alone

http://www.poeplanner.com/AAQAAOcmIABxsNii2cgU9W9qjBa_df2Eb9RCtUjrYxEvKwptbOd02xoQe7469UvBAF3yKgtwUuOE0NBfasM6KjibtV-wykpvnpykhxN3B-jWmyYi6jIBshnPemHrelPtPwX5FfCVzPljlLh7FFT-veZRRz7P3vikeMHV51Qk_f_ehMXssIwLuXw2PVWFpcsj9k2SjX2P-uwYLL8V14auVmOdqmyMgwlGcbQM6roNfFfJN4Om6zQKN2YspksKqTRhBrfZDkgRlvDVlS5JUQceMHzUUsv1MbDcvecP-aRw1EyDdIGRR4CzCSCjowAAAAAA
is what I was thinking of doing
Almost all life nodes are within range of jewel sockets for energy from within purposes
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>this was probably my best chance to get an upgrade as a hc ssf EQ dude

i mean sure, ssf is fun and rewarding but looking for weapon upgrades is just something else entirely
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>>164107819
I decided on trickster over assassin because of the extra defenses and the walk the aether passive which makes flicker strike cost no mana and gives pretty much permanent 20% increased attack speed in such a steup
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>>164107913
>crit build
>with a 5% base crit sword
didn't even open your tree, your idea is DOA
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>>164108304
What if I run blasphemy assassin's mark?
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>>164108304
Crit is still better than noncrit even at sub 95% crit
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>>164107369
What about using the new Uul Netol boots, they're life-based boots, but what ES you lose from the boots slot, you can easily gain back and more from the shield slot you forfeit by using a 2-hander. The synergy with Flicker is obvious, frenzy on hit while bleeding, 10% phys reduction while "stationary" so always when flickering, and you can use a crit 1-hander for better scaling and damage. Or you know, go Raider.
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How would you balance vaal pact
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>>164108748
move it back to the marauder/duelist area where it makes sense thematically (leech cap removed but you lose all the life regen that is abundant in the area), works at x% efficiency for ghost reaver
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>>164108851
This
Switch Vaalpact position with Unwavering stance
win for both sides of the tree
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>>164108608
that's an interesting one, ill keep an eye out for cheap deals
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>>164108608
>willingly puttin bleed on yourself
lamo why
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>>164107919
>ssf
>melee
You dun goofed fellow memester.
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>>164109217
Bleed is based on the hit's physical damage. It doesn't stack, so only the strongest bleed at a time is applied. This makes it a relatively non-issue debuff most of the time and a removable one when necessary. As a life build with high armour and high life regen, I don't even bother with my bleed removal flask anymore even in breaches where you have those a4 spikers that bleed on hit, I only use it for corrupting blood.

Bleed does threatening damage while moving. Flicker Strike puts you in a semi-permanent "stationary" position so you're never really degening for much even on a big hit you're supposed to outleech with VP anyway. CI builds also use a basalt 99% of the time, which reduces both the initial hit by 20% and the resulting bleeding degen by another 20%. As I said, the synergy with Flicker Strike is obvious, it would not exist for other skills requiring you to move.
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>>164109396
i knew i should start as flameblaster but i insisted on starting as EQ because muh comfy EQ etc

my current axe ain't _that_ bad though
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how exactly do you progress through red maps if you dont complete your map goals
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>>164110379
just start vaaling those maps you pussy ass bitch
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>>164110379
buy 1 guardian map each
complete them
do
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What's a good boss killer that isn't Bladeflurry, ED or Vaal RF this patch. I'd play Animate weapon if it wasn't cancerous.
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>>164111080
can't go wrong with cyclone
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>>164110710
is that really all
>maps are like 20c each
welp
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>>164111080
the answer is always bladefall mines
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>>164111098
The only Cyclone build that even has remotely good single target is Ngamahu's or some dual wield crit assassin.
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>>164111080
SRS
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>>164111195
>not having a bleed poison disfavour
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>>164111329
that fire conversion axe made that shit obsolete
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Are animated weapon builds popular?
I got an enchant and I can't sell it
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>>164111761
i've always been under the impression that those builds are only for the people who have the most heavy duty military grade autism
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>people get 20k hits on flame burst
>mine is sitting at 8k with conceffect
im too dumb to even follow a meta build
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>>164111761
as popular as a horrible quality of life build can get
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Is there a better feeling thanb finally hitting zana 7 and getting to run the jew mod
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Wait, this game is buy to play right? It's only $5 right now... Hmm...
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>>164080125

CWS CI guardian summoner
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>afk
>afk
>dnd
>offline
>offline
>no response
>afk
>no response
>offline
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>>164112538
It's literally FREE, always.
You only have to pay for conveniences
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>>164112852
this is why we need an auction house in-game
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>>164112994
auction house would be nothing but bots flipping stuff
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>>164112852
PLAYER
INTERACTION
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>>164113017
that's already a thing
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>>164112282
no, the best feeling is when you've done with running the jew mod
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>>164112852
Forgot
>Sold
>Just vendored it sorry *relisted at 5times the price 2minutes later*
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>>164112852
besides the other trash I sell to scrubs, there is this one item I've been trying to sell for that past two days and the only 2 offers I've gotten have been when I'm afk making food.
not afk 95% of the time
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>>164113017
>Ecks deeee!
This reddit argument makes me ecks my dee so hard
I can't event seriously dudette, I peed my pants a little, congrats
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>>164113017
Did you try to sell currency this league?
Every listed offer is a bot
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D3 and WoW are great examples why player interaction is actually important
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>>164113328
You find the real currency of items by just listing at the same as what everyone else in the middle is doing

sacrifice parts art 1ex not 0.5 like the 10 top listings would have you believe for examaple

Sucks because in any other economy you'd just get bought out and relisted for a profit but in path of pricefixing trading sucks ass
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>roll vspark to make some currency
>get 600c worth of drops before I even hit 90

heh
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>>164113534
how
>be 90 and have only like 150c
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>>164113585
>play game
>don't pick up any trash items
>only pick up things you can possibly make huge returns on and are easy to manage like rings and chancing sorc boots
>get lucky drop worth X exalts once
>can afford any build in the game now


gg
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>>164113585
to be fair I found a taste of hate and a 200c jewel
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>>164113585
i used to do stuff like chaos recipe, but now im just picking up good bases only and leave everything on the ground
more time to do more maps = more chance to get good items
stuff that will net me 1c isnt very interesting
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Some lebbitor is giving away his paid design-a-unique
https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/5l0wwe/diamond_supporter_reddit_makes_a_unique_item/


I've managed to infiltrate the poll with my suggestion and it's doing well right now (Caovi's Grazer), hoping to btfo all the cucks that are against triggers and clearspeed meta
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>>164114149
chaos recipe with vspark? lmao no wonder you aint got shit
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>>164114313
>winning one is just your totem travels with you
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>>164114313
your suggestion is technically impossible to do because ggg's amazing engine can't detect misses (which is also the reason there are no on-evade and on-dodge effects in the game, while on-block are possible)
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>>164113585
Get a decent loot filter.
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>>164114852
using neversinks strict
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>>164114654
retard
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>>164114779
i still cant imagine how that shit is coded that there's no opposite case to hitting

the else case to "hit?" must literally be BREAK; GOTO END for that
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>>164115030
every attack into air misses
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>tfw just witnessed a guy in global chat vaaling a skin of the loyal
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>>164114934
>roll the fastest clearing build in the game
>explicitely made to farm currency at lightning speed
>slow down to the speed of a shit build just to do chaos recipe

good 1
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>>164114313
Meanwhile my infiltrated suggestion is sitting pretty in the top 3. Learn to plebbit cuckboy.
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>>164115251
is it the es toi life meme
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>>164115147
but surely not every attack into air enters the segment where it gets checked against evasion/dodge/block etc
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>someone visits your ho for trade
>usual ty's
>guy just casually stays, goes to my stash and starts fiddling with his setup there

uhhhhhh
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>>164115030
>Problem: The game cannot support On Dodge/Evade Effects as Rory found out from the programmers. It's pretty fascinating but what it basically boils down to is this - if a mob can perceive you, even if it not direct visual line of sight, it is constantly making evade/dodge checks on you.
>t. the guy who designed daresso's defiance and wanted an on-evade mod on it
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>>164115251
if it's the ES to life jewel then thats pretty much just a wasted unique

pay2balance game instead of getting some interesting stuff in
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>>164114313

blood from the outside seems more fun desu
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>>164114313
>the boots that could actually get into the game aren't winning

poetards?
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>>164114313
So many broken shit but i'd like to see the karui spirit from haku missions being applied to normal totems... just imagine, cycloning while a memechief banging his weapons around or triple casting a spell (echo from you + your totem).

It might be more useful as a complement to triggers instead of another unique weapon with low drop rate and a 250ms cooldown...
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>the karui carry

lol that's too strong, not gonna happen
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>>164115623
>cant do chain maps
seems more balanced that most other stuff
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desu reddit is way too reddit for unique suggestions like that
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When is breach gonna end?
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>whisper a guy to buy his lvl 1 gem
>instantly get a reply
>finish trade almost instantly
>start wondering if he's using a bot
>he goes out of his hideout
>comes back after 2 seconds
>starts saying in local that i should leave his hideout
>ignores me 2 seconds after
>dissappears and is suddendly hanging around in another hideout

is this some sort of well worked out bot or just an autist?
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>>164116129
100% autist
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>>164116027
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=breach+league+end+date
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>>164116129
>someone stays in my hideout
>what is that guy doing
>when are you gonna leave
>ok im going to pretend im afk surely he will go away
>why is he still there
>please go
>LEAVES HIS FUCKING SUMMON CORPSE THERE
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whats a good lootfilter for making currency while mapping
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>>164116752
>>LEAVES HIS FUCKING SUMMON CORPSE THERE

top fucking kek. i'm going to start desecrating and exploding bodies every time i trade with someone now. simply ebin
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Whats the talent tree for the flame axe cyclone?
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I'm bored of the current meta builds, what are some forgotten underrated builds that still work?
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>>164107629
Let me break it down for you homo.
Say you have 500 base life and 100% extra from tree.
Then you have 1000 HP.
Now you equip Kaom and get 1000 base and tree converts it to 2000.

Now do the math.
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>>164117440
BV pathfinder
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What's the best class to farm Uber Lab? EQ?
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>>164116752
At least GGG fixed the Reanimator abuse :^)
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>>164117440
bladefall trapper/miner
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>>164117495
Actually played it a bit when poison was broken, it was still strong after the nerf without even modifying the build, but probably better to not go poison path now I would guess.
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anyone here play self found only?
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>>164117792
Miners look really clunky and just good for bosses, last time I tried trapper I had too bad single target damage but I probably did it wrong.
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>>164117967
I did an EQ poison self found build this league.

3 days ago i managed to get a cospri's malice on a Volcano map.
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>>164117992
Cospri's Will"

I'm retarded
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>>164117992

miner is fine, just pretend you're playing melee

>jump into pack
>press mine
>press detonate
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>>164117014
One that only highlights stuff with a high value:space ratio.
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4th EX this league, feels like they buffed drop rates
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>>164115623
It would most likely have to be a unique skill like WI that buffs you with AW, could be a neat unique. I'd be fine with it just for the oraoraoraoraora
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So i just found my first Breach unique from an actual breach, it took me the time to level 2 characters to 90 to get 1 it was xophs bow, i had already picked it up from his map though
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Extensive research allowed me to analyse Path of Exile.
R8 the graph i made
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>>164120998
another one
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>>164121295
*tips logout macro*
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post your settis
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>>164121482
>shaped mud geysers
this tells so much about you as a player
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>>164121635
mud geyser is objectively the best t7 map to shape
that is, unless you're a pussy who's afraid of tunneltrap :^)
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>>164121750
arachnid tomb
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>>164121750
easy to not be a "pussy"" when you play a cheesy 12k+ es build

and I fail to see how it's better than say, arachnid tomb or ashen wood, I bet you follow streamer recommendations too
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>>164121873
arachnid tomb is only good for putting a fuckton of sextants on it, and it has worse layout than mud geyser

>>164121956
nigga just don't get hit
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>accidentally press H
>disconnect
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>>164122106
forgot to add
>northern forest
>haven't unlocked the waypoint yet
>have to cross the fucking pyramid again
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>>164122208
iktf

vaal ruins is propably the most annoying zone to navigate in the entire game
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>>164122317
easily the area I always waste the most time figuring out every time
on top of all that crap, it had reset by the time I entered it again
at least the forest zone itself didn't
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>>164121482
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>>164121956
Running in circles is pretty straightforward, you don't have to backtrack and you can't miss any room.

Ashen Wood is great though.
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>>164122825
fix that fucking bottom left atziri set oh my fucking god my autism
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>>164121482
Enjoy what happens when it's easy as fuck to sustain reds
Maybe one day i'll actually organize this shit

Also I have like 2 more columns in the next tab
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>List an item 1 (one) chaos less from the average price
>Get swarmed by people giving party invites

Fucking kikes, it's 1 fucking chaos

I'm gonna price several items and then go dnd to piss these retards
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anyone a blight expert here
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is there any point to starting a howa build now, or will it be nerfed into the ground by the time i'm done desu
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>>164124370
no nerfs until the end of the league
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>>164124370
it won't get nerfed this league

BV was "nerfed" because it was bugged, it's also still good it's just not 600% more double dip mod
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>>164124578
What do you think would be the funner meme? I already have a bunch of int ES pieces so I justneed to buy claws/helm/rings I think for howa
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>>164124578
It wont be nerfed next league either
Whats going to be nerfed is the cyclone axe because we cant allow a viable melee skill
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what is this "beach map is good for tormented spirit challenge" meme? just ran literally 20 beaches and saw O N E (1) (uno) (eins) (oдин) (אחד) spirit the whole time stuck in a fucking corner refusing to fly around and possess anything. GGG can fuck right off with this shit challenge.
>>
>there are people readily buying Xoph/Esh/Tul kills in BHC
I could understand Uul and Chayula because you're afraid of losing your splinters for nothing, but Xoph? really?
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>>164124676
This is bait right? Shore boss gets double possessed when reaching 25% life threshold, the challenge is given by default to anyone not retarded
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>>164124676
whoever said that is retarded

shore map is good for the spirit challenge because at certain % life the boss spawns a ghost as well as a second ghost, as long as you're not a summoner it's not that hard

>>164124798
seriously? I've been carrying that shit for free I've been missing out, then again i've got 2.4k chaos which is currently 120ex

>>164124645
howa's a pretty good meme but you want int on gear too if you can
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>>164124903
Lol what kind of shitter build do you have to be running to ever see that guy hit 25%
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>>164124990
Yeah that's what I'm saying. I already have int stacking ES gear for my WI character I can reuse.
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>>164125008
the kind of shitter build that doesn't have to put torment on a map 20 times for a challenge you get for FREE
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>>164124191
ask your questions on Pohx's stream
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>>164125061
then enjoy your op howa build

if you go elementalist go blade flurry, if you go raider you can do blade flurry or spec throw

>>164125117
>torment isn't even a zana mod this league
>posting for (You) next thread
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>>164125117
show me ure demis

oh..

no demis?

at all?

why do you post here at all?
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incoming "how much is this worth" post
Can't find anything like it on market
It's pretty awesome, used it for levelling but replaced it with a Doryani's now
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>>164125437
You know if ele or raider is better? I've only seen the raider builds desu. Or I should just ask what is different about them
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>>164125570
it's worth less than my time you wasted with this post
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>>164125570
it has only niche leveling uses (there are wands with 80%+ spell damage for very cheap) that depend on burn, but then you are competing with a 1alch ashcaller

you wont get more than 1-2c out of it.
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>>164125432
>poopx

no thank you
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>>164125686
>Raider
>Perma 8 frenzy charges
>Status immunity

>Elementalist
>40% inc lightning damage
>100% inc lightning damage every 10s
>Less reflect dmg
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>>164125823
probably one of the five guys on ladder with a L25 blight but okay better ask the shitters on poeg who are struggling to get past t10s
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>>164125838
rlly making me think
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>>164125905
Hey we DO get past tier 10
We just dont make any currency
Should I try Neversinks strict filter for that?
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>>164125838
elementalist also gets 25% ele penetration if you bother to use a fire skill once and then

raider has much easier access to leech in tree
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>>164125452
I mean if we're gonna talk about demis I could post mine but i'm not the person you replied to

>>164125686
Both have their advantages and disadvantages, elementalist gets extra golem + extra penetration for using a cold skill in the last 10 seconds and full screen aoe for 40% of the time you play, raider has status ailment immunity and frenzy charges which have a more multiplier and extra attack speed. They're both good enough to do everything in the game, it's entirely up to you which you want to do
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>>164125437
i don't even know zana's mods this league, i was assuming torment was a thing and that anon wasn't autistically running beach maps 50 times in a row just in hope of seeing ghosts
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>Unwavering stance
>kaoms
>80% boot enchant
>Chayula
Which for howaa?
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Are there bots in PoE?
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>tfw doing giving free daily quests and wants tip
how much do I give desu
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>>164126323
kaoms doesn't give stun immunity, you retarded son?
>Unwavering stance
yes you are

don't play expensive builds if you're this new, never ends well
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>>164126424
He probably meant kaoms roots anon, i think that's what they're called
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>>164126424
http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Kaom%27s_Roots
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>>164126323
def not chayula because astra is goat
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>>164126490
>>164126510
Nobody ever calls those kaoms fucking retards
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>>164126490
>>164126510
and you would use this in a howaa build, why?
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>>164126323
Chayula LL.

Gets you another two auras, no reason not to do it if you got the dosh
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Question: why don't CI builds use a 50+ INT ring for breach maps? Wouldn't 100+ INT (= 20% ES) plus average stats doubledbe better than anything they usually wear? This is the low-case scenario too, technically rings can roll up to 70 INT (= 28% ES in breach)
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Man, I should call my Raider SA crit build "The Magician", because when I look at my health, it's NOW YOU SEE IT .. NOW YOU DON'T

uuuurgh
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>>164127741
life is technically better than ES
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>>164123427
oh my god you're right
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>>164126424
what is actually wrong with unwavering stance?
It isn't hard to get and you can convert all the str to int nodes
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>>164127846
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>>164128107
unwavering stance is a noob trap because losing all your chance to dodge isn't worth it
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>>164128326
>implying you need to dodge when you leech everything in 2 seconds with high ES
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>>164128463
Or you could simply have dodge and the 80% boot enchant
The build is already expensive, the 80% enchant wont break your bank
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>>164126327
yes but they get banned fast
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>>164128506
what about the 20% of times you get stunned
HUH HUH????
DO YOU EVEN PLAY HC AUTIST
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>>164128695
lol
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>>164128107
I strongly disagree with ever picking US post 2.2 when stibnite flasks were introduced, yes you can salvage the pathing cost with STR2INT jewels, but that's just that: salvaging

100% chance of being hit
vs
5% chance to being hit in worst case scenario, 52.5% with stibnite up

The Ranger stun avoidance cluster is naturally close to VP and you probably get much more value out of jewel sockets you can get now that you don't sacrifice a dozen points, on top of getting 10 INT, 30 DEX; 100% stun avoidance is achievable with essences although that is entirely overkill most of the time coupled with ES's natural 50% chance to ignore stuns

It might make sense for a WI build, but not for HoWaA since DEX is equally important than just getting INT and nothing else

TL;DR: stun is not an issue with proper itemization or flasks, why are you spending 12 points to get hit all the time?
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>>164113328
I dont understand this argument. The only reason people are ableto flip and manipulate the market is because they list things falsely on the market and buy up things that people mistakenly post at low prices.

If there was a live market place, a bot could not ensure that he would be purchasing items at a cheap price, because the listed items would all essentially reach an equilibrium price. This is economics 101 and what makes an open and free market desirable.

lower costs to entry mean more items on the market, better price control, and transparency with transactions such that these autists who flip items would lose their unfair advantage
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>>164128981
>5% chance to being hit
5% chance of not being hit*
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>>164123745
ok i fixed it
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>>164115389
>running checks constantly on a player when they aren't even attacking you
>running item checks for drops constantly for item filters

for fuck's sake GGG, get it to-fucking-gether
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>>164126323
Aight here's the secret people don't know about for stun immunity

>Shrieking/Deafening Essence of Scorn on gloves for % chance to avoid stun
>Leo 5 mod on helmet for %chance to avoid stun
>The 3 nodes of Heart of Oak in ranger for 36% chance to avoid stun

Combine these three together and with the right numbers you'll get 100% chance to avoid stun
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>tfw I missed good boots for 1ex all because the sound didn't play on poe.trade
why does this shit never work.
makes me very ANGERY
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>>164129245
t11s are barely red tier, when it comes to their worth they might as well be yellows since everyone sustains them easily, and you have a distinct lack of t15s and above, which means your map pool is just smoke screens as far as I'm concerned

yeah you have a lot of reds, but not many you can actually chain like shaped courtyards
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>>164129361
>secret
pretty sure people figured it out one week into Essence but whatever

it's just more expensive now that essences are rarer, people essentially pay for the convenience of not going through the crafting process
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>>164129427
Yeah I wasted half of them doing Perandus mod when I remembered i don't get a quantity bonus from them

I also lost out on some t15s because i ran the 5% chance to drop corrupted and ended up dropping like 4 t16s that were all corrupt with really shit mods

Probably just gonna buy 10 t16s today so I can finish my guardian kill challenge
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So.. this is.. the power.. of ... CI... amazing
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>>164129958
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GbgXveJkp8
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>>164127741
Because you usually leverage offense on rings (and one ring may already be wasted on valiryum)

that said, many who dont benefit from offensive shit on rings do use them to stack int and es%
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>>164125905
tfw people from poeg in top 50 every league
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>>164130563
i've yet to see one, or they don't announce themselves here
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>>164130646
Why would you announce it? Are you an attention whore or something?
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>>164130686
so how can you know?
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lol
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>>164114313
so which one are we suppose to vote for
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dumb loli poster
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>>164130837
Siege Stance
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>unwavering stance is bad because you lose all chance to evade

>getting hit is bad
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>>164130968
>this works in this niche build
>therefore it's always good
impeccable logic

also
>needing to get hit to deal damage
let us know when you complete your first Chayula breachstone
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>>164130929
should i use my leet hack skills to get it to top 3
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>>164130789
not him, but a few leagues ago there was this one guy that would regularly post here and stream for us sometimes that was always in the top 3 in league and races
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>>164131272
do it
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>tfw gf isn't having fun playing poe anymore, because she randomly used her passives and now gets owned in merciless
lol
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>>164131343
>a few leagues ago
irrelevant also someone who is top 50 is likely playing a lot and not being active here, which is the point, you can browse the thread and be top 50 but most likely you're not spending your time shitposting or helping others, so the average in game experience here is pretty low
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>>164131496
you should become a lawyer
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>>164131825
you should stop claiming bullshit
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>>164087705
>animate weapon is a faceroll build now

Is it expensive?
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>>164131875
kek why are you so angry?
not even the first dude you were replying to and you're arguing with me where there is no argument to be had

go take a walk
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>>164131936
It costs real money
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>>164131971
>lol u mad?
this your first week on 4chan, kid?
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How much HP do you think I need on a ES focused hybrid to be able to tank t16 maps chaos damage at capped res? I'm thinking 2500.
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>>164132301
What's your definition of tank? Take a fat hit not die? AFK and not have to worry about dying? Out leech the damage?
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>lvl 83 babycore
>bladeflurry assassin
>went into witch and templar tree instead of ranger duelist hoping to go CI to spend minimum regrets for respec
>get skin of loyal
>havent seen >100 ES boots / gloves / helm drop yet
>cant even do normal 4tit queen with current gear
>almost a month into league

should i just delete this character and start anew?
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how much armor should I have for end game shit?
I have 18k unbuffed and 50k with 2 flasks up.
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164132975
literally everything about this post is bait
do not respond
do not give (You)s
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I was just thinking.... If you have boots with an open prefix can you do the movement speed recipe on them, or is that just for normal boots?
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>>164133002
50k is enough, don't neglect flat pdr like end charges or a basalt and you can tank vuln minotaur np
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>>164133158
nice, then my iron reflexes auramancer SRS is on the right path.
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>>164133314
>iron reflexes auramancer SRS
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>>164131936
self cast is cheap but not so faceroll

when you get to totem it gets pretty insane

>>164130563
Wasn't lurking here much last league but I was at least top 20 on EHC

feel free to try to figure out who i am though it's really not hard
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>>164133537
>Wasn't lurking here much last league but I was at least top 20 on EHC
that's the point
doesn't matter if you're rank 1 if you're not actively posting, you might as well not be here
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lol how do i list these perandus coins so that they actually show up on poe.trade?
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:^)
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>>164133906
lol this supposed to be good?
fucking noob
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>>164133906
based
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>>164133687
I actually was lurking in other vg threads because im a filthy traitor, i also mostly am on wsg

I'll be top 50 soon on BHC anyways unless I reroll which I might

pic related it's how much i have to spend on a new build
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>>164129958
there are builds that can hit 18k easily, of course they're meme tier retard helmet reddit nigger cuck shit builds which is most likely what you're playing as well since you're an occultist, but then again so is every CI build in the first place
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>>164134131
gib money tips pls
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>>164134007
>shit talking 2 chances

that's like 1/500th of a skyforths bro
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>>164134318
Play a lot and run maps efficiently

Run uber lab efficiently on good days

Flip currency and items
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>>164134131
literally no build costs this much unless you're overpaying 50 ex for something you could get for 5 ex

i.e. you're a money making grunt, not an actual build maker
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>>164134472
>Flip currency and items
Fuck off Kike
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Can I get invited to the /vg/ guild? I just started playing again.
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>>164134551
>overpaying 50ex
>when he only has 45
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What is it with shitcrows and their obsession with Vspark?
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>>164134582
you don't
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What is it with cucks and their obsession with Logoutmacros?
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>>164134724
it's kinda funny how everyone is "making vspark to farm currency" like it's their own idea
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is shaping a map permanent? i shaped the wrong map and now i'm regretting my decision
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>>164134551
I know no build costs this much, I made a shitload of money this league because it was easy as fuck farming chayula and high maps with beyond for steel rings and crystal belts

It's easy to make money off steel rings and crystal belts in BHC because everyone followed etup's guide on shaping maps and no one does the red maps that actually drops the new bases, and this league drops them like crazy in their respective maps especially when you Zana beyond on them. Instead of being 20c per like last league now they're both 50c per and they're even more common than last league.

Also even with all the currency I have I still like to make builds on a budget if I can, then later optimize them to the maximum with the currency I have

>>164134686
>BHC
I regret to inform you this is actually over 120ex
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>>164135139
you can unshape them
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>>164134569
Jokes on you senpai, I only do the first one
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>>164135197
how
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>>164135194
nobody prices shit in ex in HC
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>>164135249
>he doesn't know
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anyone else staying at home on a friday night...
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anyone...
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>>164135249
unshaping orb
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>>164133404
>iron reflexes
its just an auramancer SRS that runs alphas howl, iron reflexes, grace and determination.
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>>164134318
1. Don't die
2. Accrue wealth
That's really it. If you manage to hit 95+ you are going to swimming in money. All you have to do is just map a lot and money will come
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>>164134340
dont be ridiculous, more like 1/3000th of a skyforth.
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>>164135632
>>164135998
i'm basically bed ridden because of my eye. can hardly even play poe
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>>164132468
>Take a fat hit not die?

yup. Just any big spike chaos damage I might run into
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>>164136513
never quote me again, degenerate
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>>164136286
gouge it out with a spoon and take a video. problem solved
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>>164136647
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>>164135418
I'm well aware but I'm just saying i'm not playing BSC
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>>164130045
>davai davai desync tovarish
>blyet lockstep cyka
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>>164131391
why didnt you save her
should have just given her some retard-proof newb build like neversinks TS ranger and she would have rightclicked her way through the game until act3 merc easily
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>>164137113
>implying I didn't try
" I don't want to read any guides, I just want to learn in my own way"
:^)
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>>164136808
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>>164131391
is your gf single?
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What is the proper way to craft? I have some rare boots with a prefix/suffix I like. Do I regal and if they still good I exalt. If they bad I trash them?
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>>164137251
>Update
well looks like now she DID learn in her own way - learn that her own build is hot garbage and that she should have followed a proper build like 99% of players do
tell her to reroll some kind of easymode build like flameblast ele or whatever is good and easy to play atm
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>>164137502
you don't craft boots from the ground up what the fuck
are you stupid? use poe.trade
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>>164137619
But what if I wanted to craft them from the ground up???

It's been 3 fucking days and I can't find any good boots with 30 move speed. Ones popped up today but poe.trade noises didn't fucking alert me and someone else got them
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>>164137502
>rare boots
>regal
read that item description again

>exalt
the fact that you have to ask about this in the first place means that you should leave your exalt locked away in your stash or trade it for other stuff, not waste it on some shit item
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>>164137761
I meant magic boots. I just call magic boots rare for some reason

-_- thx for the help faggit
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>>164137701
>what if I wanted to craft them from the ground up???

then you alt/aug spam until you get the prefix/suffix combo you like, then dump a regal and a master craft on them

for fucks sake dont throw away your exalts because "waah need muh movementspeed boots"
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>>164137701
the best way to deterministically craft boots assuming you want ms would be to spam essences of zeal but it seems like a huge currency waste especially considering we're 1 month into the league and market saturation of good rares should be at its peak
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>>164137891
Then why aren't there any int boots with 30 move speed with 1 resist 200+ es baka
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Just saw someone with the Garena/Garemon pet on GGG servers???????

That thing looks fucking horrible
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>>164137882
I would make sure the magic base has 30 movespeed on it alreaady with another affix I need before I regal because it is the most important one desu

It's like what else do I got to lose when I am willing to spend a few ex on boots and none are for sale. Should I just wait even longer??

It's just annoying the fuck out of me because I can't use my new gloves/belt because I'm not resist capped so I'm literally missing out on 2 4 links and 2k+ ES because I will have to spend like 700 chromes recolouring my boots/gloves
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>>164138018
>why aren't there a lot of those incredibly specific rares
sounds like you need to lower your expectations
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>>164138204
Ofc I'm gonna be specific when my boots need 3 off colours. Why would I settle for shit
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>optimization

im on a 980ti this shouldn't be happening in the year 2016
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>most popular streamer dies to an easy trap layout

how can you be this bad yet this popular
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>>164138520
he's popular because he's bad
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>>164138018
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>>164138375
or just buy steppan and get int and res elsewhere
it's really not a problem unless you make it to be

oh no your build has 50 less int than in optimal setup now you kill t15 bosses in 2.1 seconds instead of 2.0 seconds oh no why would you settle for that

fuck outta here, crybaby bitch
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why would you need MS on boots if whirling blades exists
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>>164136273
Do you do chaos recipes? Do you identify specific rares like Hubris Circlet? Chance the occasional Sorc. Boots?
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>>164138436
Go tell Chris Wilson on reddit
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>>164138734
I need at least 45+ int on them
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>>164138520
who?
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>>164138734
>60+ chaos
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>>164138436
>prime time
>farting in the general direction of a pack of blue monkeys

Boy do I love slideshows.
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>>164138840
You need to lower your expectations
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if i socket a poison support gem in all my minions (skelers, spectres, zompies, aw) it stacks right?
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reminder rejectpt quit his job and severed his social connections so he could focus on a dead game streaming career
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>>164139189
>SSF
>skyforth
sure
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>>164136513
Source?
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>>164139162
desu I'm considering buying these ones

I'll be capped everywhere, but only 1% overcapped for fire
I don't really need to lower them. The ones that went for 1.5ex earlier had 45 int, only 28 energy shield for a total of 194, but had an open suffix for dual res
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>>164138520
he shield charged
1) into a blade pillar
2) while within an increased damage taken font
3) while within a "do not use movement skills here" font

the sheer concentrated amount of stupidity is staggering
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tfw all ur getting is sub tier 10s on tier 14+ maps
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Primordial pool or Dunes? I'm leaning towards pool as the best option for shaping
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>>164139162
>>164138734
Why dafuq are those shit boots so expensive?
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>>164138734
60 chaos above exalt?
could it be..?
CAW CAW CAW
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>>164139583
mesa is the most popular t5 for shaping, but i go for primordial pool myself
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>>164139583
dunes
pool has no density whatsoever
mesa is too narrow for good breach farming
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>>164139583
I feel like Dunes has more breaches on average and you don't waste them as much since it's both wide and open.
Mesa has the simplest layout.
Pool is pretty good too.
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>>164138520
Mathil? He is a shitcrow anyway
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RIP recently and have 6 chaos to my name, more blade flurry or essence drain?
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>>164140016
ziz died while being carried in lab like the shitter he is
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>>164140059
oros flicker and go farm more
>>
reminder that ziz is still better than anyone making fun of him
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>>164140059
ED is the best rags to riches build I know of

my latest ED char started with a tabula and <25c after a rip and I'm at maximum upgrades and ~900c 2 weeks later
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anything done in SHITCORE isn't even an accomplishment because it's not the real game
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>>164140585
lab is the only content that is hardcore in both leagues, it's the great equalizer and the universal shitter filter

people who need lab carry = shitters/shitcrows
>>
DUMB catposter
>>
has anyone ever gotten anything better than 5 fusings on the fucking Emperors div. set ?
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>>164140827
i got 5c once
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>>164140827
5 gcps
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>>164139295
he literally chanced them on stream

and then found kaom's heart the next fucking day

he's just lucky as fuck
>>
so how fat is Bex?
>>
shitcore is like playing a game on easy mode desu

what happened to people enjoying a challenge? wanting to beat the game? what happened to that? it's like nobody cares anymore
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>>164140948
>popular streamer
>(((lucky))) as fuck
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>>164141148
90 lbs
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poe has no credit roll anymore so it can't be beat
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>>164139189
>found heretic's veil and shav's during prophecy
>even got the temp chains enchant from uber lab
>chanced skyforth, found kaom's and rumi's during breach

I'd play SSF with that kind of luck too.
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>>164140948
>streamer rng

nothing to see here, move along
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I'm bored, what's the most retarded berserk build?
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>>164141320
CWS Valyrium build
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>>164140827
i got vaal orbs few sets ago, i've also gotten chaos and fuses
>>
>playing some old character I had before ascendancy
>lvl 53
>melee
>do the normal labyrinth
>try it on cruel
>first izaro fight
>he hits me for 2/5 of life
Well, I did manage to not rip but that was only the first fight. Should I retreat?
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>>164140450
he's pretty good compared to the average shitter, but he will never be as good as projectpt.
>>
an ASPIRANT can afford to be promising
an EMPEROR must KEEP his promises
>>
why is tul so perfect, bros?
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>>164141208
>popular
can't even get 100 viewers anymore lmao
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>>164138436
>it works on our office laptops :^)
t.chris
>>
When should you switch to full totem when leveling warchief totem build? Is it bad to do as soon as I can get the ancestral bond node?
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>>164141767
I'll give you that, can't think of anyone even close to projectpt's level
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>>164141847
>an unexpected disconnection has ocurred
>>
>When I specifically have 4 ex min on my offer so I don't leave maps for shit and someone pms me and then puts up 1 ex
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>>164141857
it's all in her form
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>>164142020
You usually take AB when you can use and get warchief.
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Does your ES scale off + to maximum energy shied, or the ES on your items that are scaled by % increased max energy shield

Which of these are better? I know it's a stupid question but I want to know what affects my ES more

Like if two items were 500 es let's say, but one has +100 max ES, and the other only +50 what is better if the end result is the same
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>>164141857
merveil is still my queen of ice
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>>164142351
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>>164142351
>I know it's a stupid question
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>>164142530
>>164142448
Thanks for the help :)
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>>164142351
% on gear is local, jewelery and jewels are global.
to my knowledge it goes gear affix es adds to your gears total which then goes to your es pool , which is then scaled by your skill tree and jeweler. i'm not 100% on amulets and rings that have % increased es, but i believe it's global.
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https://youtu.be/nFw2JiWhTUk
What have you learned in 2016, poeg? I learned to optimize my logout macro hitting and spreadsheet skills, I also learned to survive on ramen and microwave meals
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How much can this sell for? New to selling, HC obv
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>>164143204
you can sell it to the vendor for some alteration shards
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>you cannot get more than 3x dmg affix on a jewel if you're just after fire damage. It's like 12% per node like this.

fuck you GGG
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>>164143204
whatever the vendor will give you

+1/+1 isn't really worth anything on any base
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>>164143361
>>164143296
thanks, hard to tell whats good on equipment, weapons specifically
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>>164143204
>mfw was browsing my old forum shops and finding shit like that on sale for 1c etc

seriously though, you'll learn that shit pretty quickly, don't worry
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>>164143428
>hard to tell whats good on equipment
energy shield and resistances, nothing else
>>
>just started HC
>this drops from fucking HILLOCK
>even got a steam achievement for it

gg ez
>>
nice m8
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>it's the legendary "this" drop -episode
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nice tabula
>>
getting real tired of those shitty discord memes
keep it in your cancer room, nobody here is laughing
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:thinking:
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>>164142448
can you carry me to a4m
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D-do I?
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guys if you can afford it, i REALLY recommend you to scour off all T11 maps and have your strand shaped
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>>164144381
>Hardcore League
wat the fug???
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>>164144113


>>164144249
k just login
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>>164143819
what about on weapons? should every build eventually go ES?
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>>164144381
ye

>>164144517
read the thread retaR?D??/ keep up with /poeg/ wow
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>>164144381
There is a fine line between consideration and hesitation. The former is wisdom, the latter is fear.
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>>164144517
What? You mean it's not breach? It's some old character that was at 45 so I thought I'd level it to test some build.
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Race rewards are now available in temp leagues

if you're not a shitter maybe you have some good shit in there

like maybe an alt art headhunter
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>>164144870
>if you're not a shitter maybe you have some good shit in there
Why would I save my race rewards? they're all stashed in default hc, where they belong
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>>164145018
that's where most of mine are too

doesn't stop me from having some remove only tabs with alt art
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>>164144870
nice now i can 6l my demigod's dominance

oh wait, i'm already using a skin of the loyal
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>>164144870
never played a race, what builds do you usually do for racing?
flameblast?
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>>164144581
>>164144558
Okay. Managed to not rip yet. If I managed the second fight, I should manage the third as well. R-right?
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>>164144870
>pixels
>pixels only you can see
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>>164145425
ye mate
>>
0-9 fap and sleep
dubs play poe
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>>164145382
Depends on the race. Easy mode flameblast witches compete with other witches, so hope you enjoy some literal who getting a lucky +1 drop and instantly winning.
If you want no competition, git gud at racing as a Duelist or Scion.
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>>164144537
>what about on weapons?
depends on the kind of weapon
high phys damage, attack speed, crit multiplier are things to look out for in general

>should every build eventually go ES?
no
but ES builds are super popular right now, that's why ES armor items are in high demand, so they are worth a lot of currency
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>>164108608
Is there a mechanic that allows the player to attack himself to trigger these? Otherwise they seem like they might be too inconsistent to work.
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>>164145770
>no
They are popular because they are literally the best
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>>164145437
jealous?
>>
>>164108748
50% Less Life Leech
100% Slower start of Energy Shield Recharge effectively making it take twice as long to start
75% Less Energy Shield Recharge Rate

Oh look at that, Vaal Pact fixed.
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>>164145341
my friend told me not to buy a demigod chest that was 6l +2 last league because it wouldn't even be relevant for anything in the future

I'm glad I listened

>>164145437
what about my legacy 30/19 rumis or my legacy 15 block bringer of rain tho
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How is PoE? Is it a pay2win? Are there bots?
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>>164146484
yes and yes
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global 1 isn't the same without mithia
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>>164146484
No and yes
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>>164130646
>>164130789
Because i'm one of them. How can you know?
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This is a balanced game.
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>amerifats start waking up
>world chat goes to shit
>/poeg/ goes to shit
>poe.trade goes to shit

literal cancer of the earth
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>>164146541
Am I going to get b& if I bot?
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>>164146484
yes there are bots ofcourse like in every game, how can you win in poe? If you are trying to competete for ladder thats the only way and you can win by buying more stash tabs.
>>
Just dropped a white level 1 crude bow in a Tier 7 map and my loot filter highlighted it

Why
What is this
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>>164147064
Crude bows are popular for CI SRS because it's easy to get 6 offcolour on and you get soulstrike and it's also super easy to craft +3 fire on
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i have 6k chaos

what should i play
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how cruel labyrinth gold door??
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>>164146154
have fun playing with them in default leagues
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>>164147064
Its meemu bow for SRS, you can sell it for one chaos if you are lucky.

>>164147420
It's not 'easy' to get six off.
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>>164147420
Wow
Thanks for the reply
>>
You guys sell all your shit when it converts to standard, or just don't bother?
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>>164147612
i dont bother

i have close to 400 tabs on standard
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>>164147612
depends if you RMT, why bother if you dont even play in legacy(read dumpster) leagues?
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>>164147612
>logging in to standard at all
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>>164147512
except they're in the remove only tab and I could take one out in the temp leagues right now

>>164147562
>alt until 32% reduced attribute requirements
>not even 100 chromes to get 6 off
done this like 6 times desu
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>>164147814
do it then pussy
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>>164145856
doesnt mean literally every build should go ES
>>
>tfw level 94.48

why did i go on, this isn't even fun anymore
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>>164148725
But if you're playing a build that doesn't go ES wtf you doing nigger
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friendly reminder to report and avoid all russian players for as long as our countries are at war at least
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>>164146484
>Is it a pay2win?
you can buy stash tabs that give you additional storage space for you to hoard items more conveniently.
this makes you better at doing large scale trading, so if you're into that kind of thing, the game can be considered pay2win. other than that all you can buy are dumb cosmetics nobody gives a shit about.
>Are there bots?
Yes.
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>>164148905
obama is on his way out so war is over
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How much ES you need to attemp uber lab?
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>>164149357
at least 1
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So I never played PoE, and I went and found a character planner and just clicked on random things to create a build. How'd I do?
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>>164149598
awful
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>>164149598
As a long term elite player I am impressed. You should seriously consider quitting your job and start streaming full time.
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>>164149598
It physically hurts me
>>
What very high damage builds are out there that don't abuse Poison or Ignite or aren't HOWA?
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>>164149598
wouldn't take much to make that baby viable
level 125 here we come!
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>>164146792
~50% Discipline use, so about half of builds are life based

seems pretty balanced to me :)
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>>164146484
Yes there are bots but for the most part you'll never know they exist. They just grind out instances on their own and RMT the loot. Only time you'll notice them is if you're competing for the ladder or somehow involved with the real-world prices of currency and items.
>>
>Overcharged

can you sustain 3 endurance charges simply with this node if you have good clear?
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>>164150174
Whispering Ice
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>>164150174
>very high damage
Could you be any vaguer? "high damage" what? AoE? single target? sustained? single hit? vaal skill? minion-based?
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is 169% really a required thing, or just recommended if you want to do -resist map mod
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>>164150881
i don't know
test it out
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>"Oh anon, I can't wait until we get home so we can grind maps together! or perhaps would you like to grind my map? ;)"
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>>164151095
oh sorry bby those mods don't look very appealing, i think i'll skip
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>>164147702
I log in to remove microtransactions and give out random exalts to people on highgate for no reason.
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tfw I see someone advertise for their breachlord group
>no icestorm
;_;
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>never traded in poe
>need to get a skill I can't buy on a vendor to try to kill Izaro
I'm legit considering doing another class just so I can get the fucking skill gem.
>>
>I just got a 6L ilevel 100 vaal regalia from the void
What now?
Do I chaos spam it until I get something good?
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>tfw you just start playing in breach and accidentally pick meme builds that dont do well
I have ~3ex in currency, could I do a half assed abyssal cry with it? I want to play it because I enjoyed EP sunwukos in D3
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>>164152061
alch scour is cheaper.
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>>164152080
what build was it
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>>164152150
crit staff slayer, I have a 5L hegemony's and an abyssus. I only have 4k life because no kaoms. I can clear up to like t9-10 white mobs quickly but once I get past t6 the end bosses usually shit on my day
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>>164151707
Just buy one from someone else
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Are spectral throw claw ci builds fun and engaging or just a meme?
poeurl.com/Yhc
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>playing self-found
>finally find some nice res gear
>it's so nice that I'm overcapping maximum res a lot (more than I could lose from curses) so it's not worth using
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>>164152323
I don't even know how the trade screen looks like because I've never traded anything with someone.
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>>164152293
You could do howa. Gearing is really straight forward and pretty cheap
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>>164151095
i'd rather grind a temp chains + freezing ground crematorium map than you, bitch
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>>164152431
>playing self-found
do you do master rotations
or stick to just your own dailies?
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>>164152435
Why not?
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>>164152634
Uh, I just play the game. I should note I haven't reached the endgame yet. I don't like daily content because I feel like I'm obliged to do it every day when I do it. So I only leveled up the masters to the minimum required for crafting. I'll probably work on the masters and other shit when I need it on higher levels.
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>>164152061
alt aug spam regal t1 flat es
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>>164152376
>>164151095
how dare you post these here
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>>164141159
>a challenge
>exactly the same game
>except you lose hundreds of hours of progression by events out of your own control

hardcucks everyone
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>>164153729
tfw I realize I don't know any of my pet's ages or birthdays
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>>164153860
The RNG makes it challenging :^)
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Someone correct me. I'm scratching my ass here.
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>>164153126
crippling social anxiety
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>>164153646
Like this?
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>>164154260
rlly makes you think
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>>164154034
you'd have to get a complete % for it to actually get increased by a %
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>>164154260
>destroyer
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>>164154260
nice """"""""""""""vaal"""""""""""""" regalia
>>
>>164154591

60% of 5 is exactly 3
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>>164154715
>>164154629
>I was a destroyer
FUG.
What divination set give random 6L then?
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>>164154812
scam some retard
>>
1) find a nice breach in an open area
2) vaal cyclone
3) ???
4) have fun

hardcucks probably don't know this feeling :/
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>>164154079
Just do it. Trading is easy as shit and makes the game substantially better
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>>164150921
Preferably great single target and at least decent aoe/clearing speed.

I'd like to play something that doesn't get fucked in the ass by the boss being ignite or poison immune and can still kill them without needing two hours to do it.

>>164150883
I probably would've made one if not for HOWA since all the es int gear prices skyrocketed.
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>>164150921
high damage is high damage. meaning in all situations. Get off your autistic horse
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>>164154812
That's a dapper prodigy 6l. The Ethereal gives 6l vaal regalia that is max ilvl80 if you turn it in on a character thats 80 or higher.
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>>164155252
They aren't even that bad though. If you just get a decent chest. You use a lot of uniques with WI. You have the rings, amulet, staff, helm, you can even use shav boots, auxium belt. Then you just have chest/gloves to buy as rares and then upgrade other shit as you go
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>>164154079
here is a step by step guide to trading, you're going to love it because if you don't do it exactly according to script people will be annoyed, it's a social retards dream.

1. Look up item on poe.trade
2. Copy the poe.trade message by pressing "Whisper"
3. Paste in game
4. You either follow this up with a lowball shitty offer or you wait.
5. Accept the party invite
6. Go to his hideout by right clicking his player portrait or name in chat.
7. Wait for the trade invite.
8. Check if he puts the right item in the window
9. Put the currency you offered into the trade window.
10. Press accept.
11. Say "ty" or "t4t"
12. Leave party.

You now experienced GGGs intended Player Interaction (tm), it's enriching and better than any other trade system.
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>>164151707
I often ask in local chat in towns and get the skill for free or 1 alch. its easy like that
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>>164155252
facebreaker shield charge raider with abyssus, great old ones ward, meginords, and all the flat phys you can find
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>>164155079
How?
good ol' trad chat?
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Just ripped in cruel A4 like a retard doing a Tora quest

Only ripped about 25c, but still feels bad because its such a dumb mistake
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>>164156186
roll half decent ES on it like 500+, put it up for considerably cheaper than the 6l vaal regalias but still in the vaal regalia price range
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>>164155938
according to some retards, it somehow prevents bots for "reasons"
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>>164156654
well it sure as shit makes it harder to bot than a simple AH scanner
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>>164156840
bots can scan poe.trade
exilebuddy is able to clean maps

it changes nothing
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>>164156334
>playing rerollcore
Seems like such a waste of time to me.
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>>164156840
everyone who uses D3's auction house as an example of an in game trade system never working is literally an underaged faggot.

D3's AH didn't work because its a shell of a game and they allowed RMAH which incentivized botting.

There is literally no legitimate reason to prevent an automated item listing in-game other than to prevent GGG losing money from RMT.

Botters would gain the ability to flip items easier for "pixel currency" but RMT would be entirely eliminated because player to player trade would be gone, and there would be no sure way to cheat the trade system by giving away items for free.

1. Eliminate player to player trading. Dropped items are only able to be picked up by the player who dropped them

2. All items for sale must be listed and kept on the marketplace for 72 hrs to prevent item flipping

DONE
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>>164156917
Player interaction, how static it might be are still a huge unknown variable that are harder to program around than a simple press of a button to buy an item. Not only will the bot be harder to program and account for all kinds of situations, it will be on a whole different level of effectiveness.

I don't think you ever experienced games that have a bot dominated auction house, it's on a whole different level than the shit that happens in poe.
>>
>corrupt a jewel for muh achievements
>get a corrupt jewel you've already gotten

Fuck
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>>164157372
>>1. Eliminate player to player trading. Dropped items are only able to be picked up by the player who dropped them
>
>2. All items for sale must be listed and kept on the marketplace for 72 hrs to prevent item flipping
ooooooooo baby
What the fuck does 2. even mean though? You mean just you can't cancel and keep changing the price ?
>>
>>164157372
Restricting player trade worked really well for Runescape when they took that stance
>>
is the live update broken on poetrade. It keeps spamming disconnected and connected
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>>164157534
Exactly. List the item for sale. It gets sold at that price and cant be changed for 72 hours.

That means no goobing people out of their items by faking a low price but never intending to sell
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>>164157372
This is the most retarded post i've read in the past 20 threads.

First of all nobody is talking about D3, like 90% of the MMOs that had player trade had an auction house in the past 10 years. Pretty much all of them were easy to bot and were eventually dominated by bots. Besides that the argument that face to face trade adds a certain flavor to the game is easily ridiculed but still valid.
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>>164157723
Even without doing the first point, you could still implement a live in game market listing that prevents item flipping by discouraging frequent price changes by setting a tax on listings or preventing items from being removed by the seller within a certain time frame
>>
>muh INTERACTIVE TRADING EXPERIENCE
literally kys
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>>164158041
Eve online does perfectly fine with an online trade system and isn't reliant on player to player trade. It's actually one of the most robust and intricate trade systems ever to exist in a video game
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>>164157794
buy more tabs

call your isp
>>
>have ~40 stash tab
>still didnt get a card tab
I need to stop spending, I've gave ~300$ to GGG so far since I started in closed beta
send help
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>>164158041
name literally one other "MMO" that had an auction house that failed if your gold standard for the failure isn't D3
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>>164158524
This isn't an MMO dude
lmao
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>>164158329
not him, but EVE is such a vastly different game from PoE that comparing the trade systems in a vacuum doesn't make much sense

also EVE is plagued by bots like crazy, which in combination with the automated trade results in massive oversupply of certain goods, which in turn makes some activities super inefficient for players
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>>164158604
did you miss my quotation marks you fucking imbecile?

>>164158812
Yeah if you are talking about mining being super inefficient for players sure, but no one gives a FUCK about that, its a boring mini game.

Picture this: Players that list items for sale must pay a tax based on the total worth of the items listed for sale. Other players may then post a trade and undercut your price. You cannot respond to this undercutting quickly, you must wait (24-72 hours could be fudged with).

everytime you change the price on your listed item, you pay the currency tax again.

This disensitivzes bot trading in bulk because their items can easily be undercut, and they would fail to profit

You guys are creatively fucking bankrupt if you can't see the good a system like this would do for this trade system of autistic item flippers and RMT
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>>164157372
>wanna give your buddy 30 maps to roll so you can chain em together
>suddenly you can't because retarded anon #13465434875 """""fixed""""" the trading system

Gee, thanks!
>>
>>164157980
A 72 hour time limit wouldn't do that. Enforcing selling the item at the listed price would.

Also there's nothing wrong with listing an item for a bit lower, then buying it from retards who try to undercut/match you
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>>164157372
/poeg/ balance team hard at work again I see
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>>164159340
no there certainly isnt anything wrong with doing that. But in the current system, it involves no risk.

It should be risky to attempt price manipulation such that people who catch on could by your items and relist them if you undercut like a fool with no intention to sell
>>
if you can guess this fuckin meme of a build i'll give you something
poeurl.com/Yia
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>>164159915
>tfw I already doing that buying all of a specific item under a certain price and listing for higher
>>
>>164159920
its a fucking retarded lightning to fire conversion build with god knows what spell.

either that or you're attempting wild strike or elemental hit and are fucking retarded.

either way your builds fucking garbo
>>
>>164159920
nice attempt at some sort of elemental hit build

it's not a spell though
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>>164160179
>>164160215
it's
scorching ray cwc gmp arctic breath ball lightning
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are those skeleton mages even worth spending 2 extra points on +20 intellect?
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>>164160359
you understand that only one of those spells procs at anyone time under the 300ms cooldown right?

CWC is good for slowly cast spells like firestorm, or bladefall not some retarded CoC substitute touhou build
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>>164160432
Not unless you wanna meme yourself
>>
>>164160538
game sux
>>
no u sux
>>
>>164160432

They cant be supported with melee splash or multistrike.
>>
no bully please i never played any game from this genre
can i play this game without trading, casually?
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>>164162209
Yes but you will probably not have fun.

You can play this game with trading, casually.
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>>164162209

Absolutely. You'd want to learn how to craft and shit though when you get to end game.
>>
>>164162149
>>164160660
thanks. memed myself
>>
>>164162290
>>164162545
thank you anons
>>
>>164162209
there are some builds that are solo friendly. I like the game and I run solo only myself. Feels more rewarding when you finally find that 3% upgrade after 300 hours
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>>164162209
You won't make it to the actual endgame, but if you're playing casually you probably won't want/need to.

Your build choices are very limited

Just bite the fucking bullet and trade

>copy paste the automated trade message on the item you want
>accept party invite
>go to seller's hideout
>trade currency for item/currency
>'ty'
>leave party
>leave hideout

That's literally it. If a bot can do it, you can do it.
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>>164162209
>can i play this game without trading, casually?
yes you can.
you (probably) won't be able to play advanced builds that are tailored around specific uniques, and you will struggle to accumulate high-end equipment in the late endgame, but you can experience and clear like 98% of the game's content playing solo and self-found.

also, at some point you will get over your initial aversion to trading and discover that it makes the poe experience a LOT more enjoyable. and as a beginner you won't be using all the currency you accumulate in your stash for anything else anyway.
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>>164162209
Trading isn't even bad though. You just search the item you want and click whisper and copy paste it in game. IF you have items you want to sell just toss them in a public stash tab and set a price
>>
Anyone playing hybrid? How will I fare in late maps with 2k HP at capped chaos res?
>>
>allow looping damage conversion
>remove or restrict "added as" modifier (because loops with it would not converge)
y/n?
>>
Any summoner bros on?
I am dumping all my currency into a summoner for my last build and I need to know which spectres are usable.
I have been using revenants in early merc now and they are ok, I will have a 5L next level and 4 spectres.
If I need to relevel gems because descendants are shit I would like to know now.

Any tips?
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>>164164825
buying items off poe.trade is easy and accessible as fuck
but selling items is annoying if you dont have premium stash tabs. you have to download 3rd party tools, make forum threads, set all the shit up to work properly... that's a fucking hassle to go through.
still worth doing though - recently got a skin of the loyal from my 2nd ever chayula breach, sold it for 120c. without trading this thing would have been completely worthless to me.
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>>164165074
for what purpose
>>164165081
those ribbons that shoot gmp fireballs make for top tier spectres
they spawn in t10 colonnade map
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>>164165243
No particular reason, just a random idea. Perhaps there would be more possibilities to play around damage conversion.
>>
what's a fun cold based build
no conversion memes pls
>>
Peep this my dude
Google poe necronomicon and click the poe forums link should say 2.5 necronomicon. It has a lot of information about summons and the op answers questions fast.
>>
>>164166156
WI convert to fire for double dip XD :)
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>>164166214
>>164165081
Meant for
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>>164166305
just couldn't contain yourself, could you
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>>164166418
No :)
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>Pacifism
>Fragility
>Self-Flagellation
>Brittle Barrier
>Powerlessness
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>>164166496
>blood sacrifice
>blood sacrifice
>blood sacrifice
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>>164165243
>>164166365
Thanks my dudes
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>>164149598
>scion evasion wheel
>conduit
>pain attunement
>7 points spent on getting one 8% cold damage node
>getting that one templar start node
>a mix of life/evasion and energy shield
>taking projectile damage, two handed melee damage ,duel wield damage and shield nodes
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>>164165130
>hassle
You can go from absolute nothing to having a running shop in under 2 minutes, and that allows 1 minute to download Acquisition.

Download acquisition, make a thread, paste thread ID in to acquisition. Done.
Optional: Get your poe.trade online ID and paste it in to acquisition

I don't understand what part there makes it seem like a hassle. It's incredibly streamlined
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ah, poetards?
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>>164167787
nice cheats cheater
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>>164166496
whats the point of minus 1 charge jewels anyway
Brittle Barrier I can see being some hot meme jewel and Self Flagellation a bit less so but it still has a clear bonus

The only use I've seen is the minus frenzy charges to have 0 max frenzy charges and always get the permanent bonuses from raider ascendancy but you have to commit 3 jewel sockets and it bricks half the ascendancy making it super inefficient
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i want to make a scorching ray cwc flame surge build
someone help me
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>>164167687
>You can go from absolute nothing to having a running shop in under 2 minutes, and that allows 1 minute to download Acquisition.

i know because that's literally what i did myself a few weeks ago.

i call it a hassle because it's unintuitive and clunky as fuck.
>download obscure program
>have to input your login and password, or extract some weird cookie from your browser to substitute for it
>have to create shop thread in a "trade" forum that apparently literally only exists for automated half-botted shop threads
>have to PM a bot on the forum to get a special key to input in my dubious program
not to mention that it takes a bunch of digging through old ass guides and forum posts until you find all that information.
i still maintain that putting their own public stash trading functionality behind a fucking paywall is a really scummy move from GGG.
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>>164167787
>>164167872
wait a minute
this guy is a cheater
hey everyone this guy is a cheater
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>>164167924
I want to steal this
someone help him
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Do howaa builds shock?
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>>164168132
r u retarded lmao
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>>164165081
Flame sentinels might be the best for clearing.

Go to the map room in A3 and cast desecrate a few times to get their copses'. Link them up with GMP, spell echo, and whatever else you want and your screen will be filled with fireballs
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>drag out Chayula literally first try
>can't drag out fucking TUL
He's the only one left from that challenge.
Any tips ? Quick farming strategies ?
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Is this build good? www.poeurl.com/YiH
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>>164168376
yeah its great
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>>164168336
don't get hit
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>>164168376
i can see how this is going to be meta soon
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>>164168448
sorry I guess I wasn't specific
I meant THIS challenge
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lets all hope the next op wont be so bad
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how do i make fun build
i feel like killing myself playing BF or pizza
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>>164168743
gladiator bf with the surrender is pretty fun and stronk, IF you like bf
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>>164168852
>feel like killing myself playing BF
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>>164168981
Yeah glad doesnmt use bladefall
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>>164168613
i didn't get tul until i leveled two chars to 90+
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>>164168725
cancer
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>>164168981
oh you meant that you ARE playing bf and pizza, and that makes you want to kill yourself

i took it as "i WANT to play bf or pizza even though I know it will make me want to kill myself"
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>>164168725
witch feet and golden muff is best op
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>>164169190
>still on my 1st
>Lv84
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>>164169232
all g famalamalam
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>>164169348
im on my 8th character this league but i never go above 85 because i hate mapping
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>>164169563
how do you fund shit if you only play each character for a day
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>>164169663
i farmed uber lab for 4 days and made 25ex, my characters are never worth more than 2 ex because im a jew and prefer playing a toned down version of the build
>for a day
i wish, it takes me 2 or 3 days to get to 85
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dead thread lmao
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we're all busy playing
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i got +4 weapon range total and a bunch of increases to AOE

does weapon range scale off of AOE increases ? im using cyclone
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>>164167873
Snakebites with 0 frenzies mean you poison on attacks always. It's still quite a big investment to poison reliably.
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stop posting

thread is dead
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>>164172964
yes for cyclone
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i refuse to spend money on this game until GGG fixes the trade system
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>>164173171
sorry a big dummy

so getting weapon range isnt just a flat range increase since im scaling from AOE too. hmm seems balanced
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How do i level to transition into explosive arrow chieftain? never done an EA build and theres fuck all 2.5 guides out there
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>>164172964
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>>164173306
+% AoE increases your base weapon range for Cyclone.

So if you're using a 2h axe for a base of 11, the duelist node for +2, and Warlord's Reach for +1, you have a base of 14. You have 50% Increased AoE, so you have 21 unit range for Cyclone.

It's pretty balanced actually. 22 cyclone range is -just- enough to cover the entire breadth of most packs.
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>>164173286
I seem to be able to buy and sell the items that I need. What's broken for you?
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>>164174082
>Every AoE node
>Dying Sun
>Carcass Jack

That wasn't an actual build, just a show-off of the highest cyclone range.

I mean, cyclone is pretty mechanically strong so that would probably clear just fine anyway, but single target has always been cyclone's issue anyway.
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>>164174325
>That wasn't an actual build
building and gearing for AoE isn't building??

>but single target has always been cyclone's issue anyway

eh, cyclone completely breaks big enemies / bosses when you have high movespeed and are just phasing through them constantly, izaro in particular
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>>164174239
do not reply to me!!!!!!!!!
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>>164174082
>using vinktars
>no shock immunity flask
????
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>>164174564
I mean it's a meme build. It skips on a lot of stuff that would otherwise be vastly more efficient to get more AoE so that the person who made it could show off what max AoE cyclone looks like.

But you knew that, you're just being facetious
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>tfw I accidentally buy an alchemist's flask instead of a chemist's flask
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>realise i never heard a4 music because i never turn game music on
>pick up a leveling char and run through a4
>pop a semi at grand arena theme

I liked it so much i made a video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJMi8mkT0-Q
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Why does Precinct get shat on so much?

Pack density is great, boss is easy
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map
>>164175140
>>164175140
>>164175140
>>164175140
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>>164175179
shit layout
have to go all over the place
you're right though its underrated especially when there are 6 exiles
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>>164175329
I get so many returns from that exile pack

And the layout is basically a loop with two bridges that connect to a smaller area with the boss pack, and 1-2 other short offshoots. It's not nearly as bad as people said it was.
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