/fog/ - Fallout General

Dead general. Dead game. Dead thread.

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what is your current and/or go-to starting SPECIAL in FO4?

pic related

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I've told you guys several times that extended periods of time with no posts will 404 the general

>thread 404ing a little over a year after a new game came out

FO4 is the biggest video game disappointment since FO3

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>>164020904
no fucking shit, anon?

>reminder
TTW 3.0 s o o n
https://taleoftwowastelands.com/content/ttws-public-dev-log

Went to sleep and didn't do my usual playthrough during the dead hours since I was trying to fix my schedule a bit. Whoops.

>>164021315
no anon, you should kys as your screens add nothing to the general as proven by our slightly under 400 post short thread

: ^ )

>>164021474
Went through the old thread and saw a new tripfag and two or three of the replies to his post were basically
>loltripfag gtfo

what kind of area would the glowing sea have been before the nuking? I don't mean where is it on a IRL map, but if it was wooded, industrial, suburban etc., with the underground labs and the like, I'm inclined to think it was a typical suburban area (churches and such) with an industrial estate nearby which housed secret labs, too

I also hate how the glowing sea is even a thing, but in DC the landmarks haven't even toppled over, but hey
>Bethesda
so I shouldn't expect a genuine attempt at world building, I know

I'll save this general. Don't worry.

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how do i make 4 not run like trash?
also if aiming weird or is that just me

>>164020723
For some reason I always go with the lady killer perk first. As far as stats, CHA is maxed and INT is at 7. Luck will always stay at 1

>>164021185
i'm hyped for this, but having to restart my game will be a major pain

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>Don't spam the thread with pics! You namefags are the ruin of these threads

Yeah, well.

We've been exploring the National Guard Training Yard for the whole night, looking for a distress signal. All we found is a whole lotta ghouls, more ammo than I'd expected to found and a X-01 inside a bunker.
This is...good. Now, time to report back to Paladin "DENSE" Danse

If fallout 4 has taught me anything it's that the enclave might be right

>>164022139
>I also hate how the glowing sea is even a thing, but in DC the landmarks haven't even toppled over, but hey
Are you mentally deficient anon?

The glowing sea was created by a high yield megaton+ size nuclear bomb, most all of which had been decommissioned long before the war in favor of smaller yield bombs that produced more radiation.

>>164025009
Ay-you-tism

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Can't seem to be able to fix this. Type 3 work just fine, but Type 6 isn't and give me unmatching textures.

>>164024534
>not having a never ending amount of 30 - 50 hour playthroughs

step it up

>>164026636
>use super nuke because lol
>don't use any nukes at all on city, even though that doesn't mesh with what we know about the series

Whether he's wrong or not, it's still retarded.

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>>164027912
>tfw fallout games will never remain as fun past the initial 5-10 hours

I want to marry KLE0!

>>164028218
You sunk the previous thread. I hope you're happy.

>>164028032
>use super nuke because lol
Again, are you mentally handicapped anon?

Did you miss that super important military instillation in the Glowing Sea?

Do you not know what the Minutemen Sentinel defense system project was?

>don't use any nukes at all on city, even though that doesn't mesh with what we know about the series
Except they nuked the city twice

Once was in Cambridge, another was the big ass nuke we see at the beginning of the game that hit right next to downtown.

Did you play this game at all anon?

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>>164027093
Role-pla-(you)-ing at its finest

>>164025009
We spent the night at Cambridge Police Station, trying to sleep a little even if there's a giant douche in the other room, walking with a PA while everyone in the building, including his companions, are trying to get some rest.

Everyone sleeps except for him, oh poor Paladinsyth Danse

>>164021185
once this comes out, I'll finally get around to making a wee mod that removes the train stations and places a caravan "going west" that you can tag along with for a 'three years later...' instead of changing the years the game starts and it being nine years that first transition.

one way trip, because that shit is long.

>>164028294
>another was the big ass nuke we see at the beginning of the game that hit right next to downtown.
the nuke you see at the start is the glowing sea nuke, senpai.

>>164028294
The one that hits in the opening cutscene is the Crater of Atom seen in the Glowing Sea, not the ones in Cambridge. The sinkhole also isn't a crater, unless you're referencing something else. I'm not sure if it's explicitly stated that the Cambridge crater is a nuclear warhead or just a crater resulting from some form of collapse.

>>164028291
I am super upset nobody joined in my metal fever.

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>>164028957
I doubt the crater in Cambridge was created from the impact of a nuclear warhead, the whole place should be flat as the glowing sea. Maybe something exploded underground, maybe some piece of fallout fell from the sky after the blast, hence the huge rads in the area.

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>>164028910
>>164028957
Wrong, if you actually look at the direction the nuke hits, its the nuke that causes the big crater in downtown Boston

>>164028957
>>164029575
Its explicitly stated the cambridge crater is the result of a tactical nuke hitting the area

>>164024117
4 has the best gunplay outside of vats

>>164029986
anon, it's not. The nuke at the start of the game was trying to hit the Sentinel Project site and caused the Glowing Sea.

>>164029986
Regardless of how it's represented and shown, Todd Howard has stated in interviews that the Glowing Sea is the result of the bombing shown in the opening cutscene. As the others have said, in lore, it can be explained as the Chinese aiming for the Sentinel site.

Where did you see the Cambridge crater being stated as the result of a tactical nuke?

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>>164030201

Except it very clearly wasn't as, if you look at the direction the nuke hits at, and compare it to the in-game map, it hits nowhere near the glowing sea, and, in fact, hit where we see it hit, aka, the downtown crater shows previously.

I find it baffling people still think the intro nuke was the glowing sea nuke when it was pretty well confirmed after the game came out that it wasn't.

But you always end up getting these kind of people cropping up after the game has been out for awhile, but who weren't there when everything was being discovered, so they are behind the curve

>>164030201
>Where did you see the Cambridge crater being stated as the result of a tactical nuke?
Its stated in the offical guide and by Arlen Glass(whose wife and child lived in that area and were killed by the nuke)

>>164030627
It doesn't really matter how it's represented in the game if Todd Howard himself stated on record in interviews that it's the one shown in the Glowing Sea. The Glowing Sea crater is directly south/southwest of Vault 111, so yes, it doesn't make sense going by the cutscene, but the nuclear warhead seen in the intro was devastating enough to cause the eradication of everyone on the surface above the Vault. That fits with the environment around the Glowing Sea, not the craters shown in Boston, Cambridge, and elsewhere.

>>164030843
>by the nuke
I think I have the guide somewhere, but I'd have to pull it out and comb through it. 'The nuke' seems to refer to the Glowing Sea detonation, but I imagine smaller yield warheads could have hit the Commonwealth, like the ones launched by the Yangtze. Though, as the other person said, I would think even a small warhead would cause more devastating effects than a sinkhole and some fallen buildings.

>>164030627
>getting up on your own high horse after being btfo

baka

>>164031074
>I would think even a small warhead would cause more devastating effects than a sinkhole and some fallen buildings.
Honest question, but have you played any of the previous fallout games?

Like, even as far back as Fallout 1 the devs have said that nukes in Fallout were designed to cause very little if any actual physical damage, which is why cities like Los Angeles, Bakersfield, and San Francisco still stood in pretty good condition despite the fact they all got hit.

Seriously, this is Fallout 1 era lore here.

> 'The nuke' seems to refer to the Glowing Sea detonation
No, Arlen Glass mentions he lived in Cambridge, and that after the war he went to go find his house only to find hit had been entirely destroyed by a nuke hitting it.

>It doesn't really matter how it's represented in the game if Todd Howard himself stated on record in interviews that it's the one shown in the Glowing Sea.
Todd said a lot of things that were later disproven by the game.

>>164031392
My mention of 'the nuke' is referring to your specific language, because calling something The Nuke, in my mind, refers to the large warhead used that caused the opening cutscene, as opposed to simply a nuke, which could be any number of smaller yield warheads. For example, think of the warhead you detonate in Megaton, and the effect it has on the entire city. That's a nuke, but that's nowhere near the damage shown by the one in Fallout 4's opening cutscene.

As far as the Todd Howard telling lies thing, yeah, mechanically of course nearly everything he says is easy to show he's lying or exaggerating, but something straightforward like their design logic or placement of things like the Glowing Sea it seems more reasonable to take at face value and chalking up any flaws or mistakes as developer oversight.

>>164029986
Dude, I mean..look at the Glowing Sea, and then look at the Cambridge crater. They seem very different. Obviously, the chinese tried to bomb the Sentinel Site, and failed: the pyramid is still there, 200 years later, all the nukes are intact.

Now, the Cambridge crater..that could be huge, radioactive parts of building and structures around Boston that fell to ground after being blown in the sky by the explosion...y'know, a proper "fallout".

I'm still having troubles trying to understand how nukes work in FO (for example, Liberty Prime goes around Boston throwing nukes, and it's just like granades, so..).
Ofc, the Yangtzee bombed several parts of Boston, but I think those were smaller warheads, like the ones LP uses.

Arlen Glass said "the bombs destroyed our home", but that could be a rethorical figure...not the fact that an actual missile fell on his house.
But then again, like
>>164031392
said,
nukes in FO universe work...differently.


What we know for sure is that the Crater of Atom is the place where the first nuke fell, and it's the one we see in the intro.
Also, we nuke the institute but that doesn't blow away the whole Boston area, so..

>>164031780
>Dude, I mean..look at the Glowing Sea, and then look at the Cambridge crater. They seem very different.
OFC they are.

The glowing sea was caused by a megaton+ sized nuclear bomb, which was basically unheard of in Fallout's unvierse.

The Cambridge crater was caused by the same kind of tactical nukes that fell on places like LA, San Fran, D.C., Bakersfield, and others.

>I'm still having troubles trying to understand how nukes work in FO
The work exactly like they always have.

Very low physical damage, high radiation output, which is why the Cambridge crater is still highly radioactive after 200 years, as is the downtown crater.

>>164031667
These are the same people who called Auriel's Bow a daedric artifact when talking about the Dawnguard DLC.

If Bethesda didn't want to imply that the nuke that caused the downtown crater was the intro nuke, they wouldn't have put a nuke crater there and matched it up.

>add mod using NMM
>it doesn't show up on the list
>this keeps happening and some mods refuse to be added
why

>>164032496
How do you fuck up installing something with NMM?

>>164021185
>big update
might get around to installing those games again

I forget how compatible TTW was with other mods. Do you still need lots of compatibility patches?

>>164032662
I've got 200 mods. There's always been a few that when you add them don't show up as listed on the mod page. It's some bug on their side.

I should have never switched to this thing.

>there are people here who think fallout 3/4 is good enough for multiple playthroughs but fallout 1/2 are not

liberals were a mistake

>>164032815
I've literally never had this problem when installing mods using NMM

>>164033029
Great for you.

>>164032846
Shouldn't you be on /pol/?

Does anyone have roleplay ideas for a female character joining the Legion?

>>164032496

Did you look at the download manager at the bottom and see if it completed successfully?

Was it a new file? It could still be being scanned on their servers.

>>164033127
go away bethbabby

>>164033135
Breeding slave? Basically the only thing the Legion uses woman for.

>>164033135
They only thing I can think of is something along the lies of a mother/helper archetype like Athena and the Greek heroes she helps or St. Helena and Constantine. It fits the Greco-Roman theme the Legion has.

>>164033209
>Anyone who comments negatively on my broad political statement must be a bethbabby!
Ohhh, you're one of THOSE kinds of shitposters.

>>164033160
That actually helped with the current two giving me problems, so thank you!

Any chance you know why some sit in the download manager as paused? It only started happening after one of the NMM updates and I download the files first before adding them.

>>164033432
They'd still rape you and not let you do boy stuff.

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>>164031989

Yeah, I meant more in a "scientific" way: you can't actually have huge amouts of rads, and little physical damage, at least when it comes to nukes IRL.

Yeah, the glowing sea was hit with something similar to a tsar bomb, while all the other "nukes" seem to be more like "dirty warheads".

>>164033885
Sometimes you gotta deal with a bit of rape and bite your cheek to play the heroine.

Even assuming the Legion isn't as misogynistic as portrayed in FNV, there aren't many places for women within the actual Legion, so you'll ultimately have to play the role of the breeder, or you'll have to be a merchant or caravan owner who is protected by the Legion, effectively not joining the Legion itself.

>>164033135
>The one major public role reserved solely for women was in the sphere of religion: the priestly office of the Vestals. Freed of any obligation to marry or have children, the Vestals devoted themselves to the study and correct observance of rituals which were deemed necessary for the security and survival of Rome but which could not be performed by the male colleges of priests.

A sort of cleric/child of atom...even if there's no such thing in NV.

>>164034041
why wouldn't they be as misogynistic? women are only slaves in their camps used for popping out kids. they might actually be worse than muslims.

>>164033135
Mulan: Roman Edition.

You would need some kind of flat or chest binding armor mod(s) to pass as a man in the Legion.

>>164033718
No clue, I've only ever had files "fail to complete" or something of the like. Usually only needed to retry or if it failed a second time, manual download then use the Add from File function.

>>164033434
>defending bethesda in 2016

>>164026625
Enclave-Institute alliance when?

>>164026625
I want a mod to turn the Brotherhood into the Enclave so I can be there god damn friend for once.

>>164035169
>Implying I said anything about Bethesda
Is this bait?

>>164035221
>Implying The Enclave would ally with muties

>>164035424
the alliance would probably involve either taking over the institute or kidnapping top scientists and stealing technology to give themselves an edge

then maybe blowing them up

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>>164035221
The only reasonalbe ending is for the SS to take over the Institute, cut all the synth crap and flood the commonwealth with synthetic food,genetically breed livestocks and other useful stuff. he/she would literally become a god among men.

>>164035569
Or you could not be a pussy and blow them up.

>>164035569
>The only reasonalbe ending is for the SS to take over the Institute, cut all the synth crap and flood the commonwealth with synthetic food
Except the Institute doesn't make synthetic food, they grow it normally.

Nor does anything suggest they have the ability to actually make synthetic food.

>>164035719
I think he means synthetic gorilla meat.

Can you cannibalize synths?

>>164036009
In theory I guess.

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>>164031074
>Though, as the other person said, I would think even a small warhead would cause more devastating effects than a sinkhole and some fallen buildings.
It depends if it is an air burst or a ground burst. From a military perspective, you don't need to vaporize buildings. They just have to get enough damage to be useless.

The adavantage of air bursts are that you can let the mach waves work to your advantage, effectively increasing the blast radius of the nuke. (Then there's faggotry about the triple point, where the reflected wave hits the primary wave, but that increases in height the farther away you get. So let's keep that to another lesson.)

The advantage of ground bursts are that you can crack tougher targets. The obvious disadvantage is increased fallout, as the hard radiation can make the dust radioactive.

The most "clean" nukes are hydrogen nukes, because the fire ball doesn't have to touch the ground.

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>>164036097
since they're not technically human everyone could ethically eat synths

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>>164035719
Yeah

>>164036009
No, I meant what I said: a food synthesizer like pic related
And, gen3 synths, probably. They're made of flesh and bones, after all.

>>164035617
I know, every ending in FO brings death and destruction because "war never changes"
But wasting a huge amount of tech..hell, the BoS might find something useful, other than Dr. Li

But no, we must blow up the entire place because of one shitty department.

>>164036343
>But wasting a huge amount of tech
Not him, but the Institute really only made synths, and used FEV on people to develop synths.

Besides that, their other technologies like the teleporter and the nuclear generator couldn't e moved.

>>164036343
I'd rather release the institute folk into the real world. The non-shitty ones that survive will end up in science jobs anyways and work on something helpful.

Food isn't a major issue, it's not getting murdered by things. People can farm and raise animals but raiders and super mutants make that hard. More folks die to physical threats and radiation than starvation.

>>164027664
you need to manually add the type 3 textures

T6m doesn't come with any

theres a gorillion of them on nexus so pick your poison, reember to grab them for raiders and ghouls too

>>164036489
>Besides that, their other technologies like the teleporter and the nuclear generator couldn't e moved.
so just move in and put some BoS banners up on the walls

>>164036661
I don't think they needed that technology that badly. That's something the Enclave would be more likely to do.

>>164036661
Maxson's BoS only has around 500 people in it, and the force needed to properly secure The whole Institute facility would put a massive drain on his troop numbers.

Not to mention that, if he doesn't properly secure it, that just allows people who got out the chance to take it back, and refortify it, fixing the failures in their defenses that allowed the BoS to get in the first time, thus starting the whole cycle over again.

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>>164036343
why would I want a shitty vending machine like the one in your pic when I could have [pic]

>>164036818
it would also mean they'd have to settle down in the area and set up another big base just for the sake of a teleporter and electricity source

>>164037015
>just for the sake of a teleporter and electricity source
>JUST for
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>>164037015
This too.

While they will easily be able to maintain the Boston-Logan airport base, adding The Institute on top of that would be a massive drain.

Not to mention the teleporter only works in The Commonwealth region unless you spend a long time charging it up to reach someplace like Far Harbor.

It's really not all that effective for the BoS's coast spanning operations

>>164037109
it's not that big of a deal when you could also just fly to a place, and has ranged capabilities

the alien one was good, there's is kind of shitty

try and remember this is a fantasy high tech world.

>>164037193
That DLC from NV also had a teleporter if I remember. It was more of a back to base thing, but if the BOS wanted a teleporter it would just be for moving stuff they found back to a base. There's a few instances of teleportation in this universe, and it won't be the last. The Institute wasn't really special for creating that. With its limits and upkeep, it doesn't seem worth the amount of resources to maintain.

>>164037565
The Big MT teleporter actually has a smaller range then The Institute's.

Big MT.s is a stones throw from Vegas, and, IIRC, the transportalponder doesn't work in other DLC areas like Zion.

The Institute's teleporter requires some charge up, but it can go much father once it is.

>>164037835
so they're both shitty

>>164037565
The Institute has pretty shit tech now that I think about it.
Worst laser weapons, worst teleporter, shit robots.
Only thing they've got going for them is gen 1/2 synths and the gorillas.

>>164021025
>anon
>replying to a tripfag

>>164032846
>Not being liberal
Get a load of this asshole. Go back to reading Ayn Rand and jacking off, you fucking embarrassment.

>>164038057
like a lot of people, I use an extension that anon's everyone, anon.

>>164035424
Only liberals get triggered by /pol/. Only liberals care about bethesda games.

kys

>>164037929
> worst teleporter
Actually its better
>>164037835

> shit robots.
They don't make robots.

And Gen 3 synths are actually far superior to normal robots because the FEV used in their creation makes them basically unable to break down, and their near human intelligence allows them to adapt to situations unlike older robots like Mr Handy bots who get stuck in order loops that no longer serve an obvious purpose.

>>164037929
Gorillas even survived the war based on the Nuka World DLC. Odds are that was lazy asset use from the devs, but still.

Their homebase was very shiny and clean but not that impressive. And once people figured out where they were they were quite vulnerable due to lack of defenses. It would be cool if the Enclave or someone took over and used their resources better but they seemed very reliant on slave-labour to maintain their lifestyle and resources.

>>164038198
>They don't make robots
Yeah, they do.
Then they get frustrated when they attain free will, technophobe.
Just because a robot has flesh and can think for itself doesn't mean it's not a robot.

>>164038294
>due to lack of defenses
They were buried underground, with armor plating so thick it required the worlds greatest nuke throwing super weapon to breach even the top most level of the place.

They also had no surface entrances expect a very hidden water intake pipe that was guarded by everything from feral ghouls, to mounted lasers, to synths, to hidden walls, and other shit.

They had so many defenses they make most Bond villains look defenseless.

>>164038317
Except Gen 3's are literally not robots, they are cloned humans with a chip in their brain.

-Test tube babes =/= robots
-People with chips in them =/= robots

>>164038446
in a world with lots of nukes, it's not that great. there's lots of abandoned buildings in the area so someone could just tunnel in quietly over time and they wouldn't know the wiser.

>>164038583
They're manufactured, dude.
They're physically created with assembly machinery.
They're robots.

>>164038646
>in a world with lots of nukes, it's not that great.
Except its made pretty clear that LP's nukes are not normal nukes, that's why you need to go to go the missile site to get more.

They are military grade tactical nuke warheads far stronger then anything any other idiot has.

>there's lots of abandoned buildings in the area so someone could just tunnel in quietly over time and they wouldn't know the wiser.
You are aware that trying to tunnel underground into The Institute wouldn't work due to the water table right?

>>164038862
anon, the railroad shits and minutemen can destroy the institute

their "james bond villain" defenses are actually pretty shitty.

>>164038974
Have you played the game to actually know how both the Railraod and Minutemen get into The Institute?

Both require YOU, the player character Jesus incarnate Gary Stu break in yourself, and teleport them in, because they are un able to do it themselves.

>>164038974
the railroad and minutemen don't do fuck all, it's the protagonist

same way NCR wouldn't exist as-is in 2281 without the help of two protagonists

>>164038974
They only are able to destroy the Institute because they've found out where it is.

Digging around blindly would achieve nothing.

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Why is he such a manchild cunt? Everywhere else too like on his modpage he's so full of himself and self-aggrandizing

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>>164036957
But it's not a vending machine, jeez

>>164036534
Yeah, or maybe recruit them in your faction: I mean, we as the player can become the leader of the institue and work as a double agent: it'd make more sense to gather all the "rotten apples" in one place, and kill them all, and then "open" the Institute to the overworld.

There's a few NPCs who could work in the Institute, like those two nerds in Diamond City, or Curie: and it would also work the other way around, too, with scientist from the institute going to places like Vault 81, helping farmers in various settlements around the wasteland, maybe even travel to the Capital Wasteland

So I am trying to make F4 styled chems for FNV/TTW, with effects like lowering prices during bartering and highlighting enemies in combat

Anybody got any scripts or mods that add those scripts as effects to give to chems?

>>164039147
Pretty much. The Railroad are on their last legs before you come along, and the only reason the Minutemen exists again is because of your character doing literally everything for them despite being the "General".

Two of the worst factions in all of Fallout as well. I massacre the Railroad in all my playthroughs after getting ballistic weave.

>>164041929
>
There's a few NPCs who could work in the Institute, like those two nerds in Diamond City, or Curie: and it would also work the other way around, too, with scientist from the institute going to places like Vault 81, helping farmers in various settlements around the wasteland, maybe even travel to the Capital Wasteland
This would never happen.

Institute fags hate wastelanders too much to help them.

And theres not enough wastelanders with the technical knowledge to get shit done in The Institute.

>>164028068
>tfw when I genuinely dont start to enjoy my playthroughs until 30+ hours

I like feeling like a post apocolyptic operator, not a half thawed/still wet behind the ears with placenta/invalid fresh out of a coma

>>164042236
>Pretty much. The Railroad are on their last legs before you come along
Not really.

The just survived a massive attack, but they have numerous safehouses and operations stretching all the way down to the Capital Wasteland

>Sparrowprince got banned from nexus
I wonder what 4?

>>164042236
>get btfo out of Slocoms Joe base
>Still have key players and leadership in place despite sustaining heavy losses
>still have tourists operating
>still have agents operating even though they seem to get killed every other fetch mission
>still harriet tubmanning synths through the common wealth
>last legs

I dunno. The protagonist does, as with evey faction, do fucking everything for them, but they seem to be doing alright. A fuckton better than the minutemen when you first find preston who is LITERALLY the last operating minute man until he up and just gives you the title of general after knowing you for like a half hour

>>164042236
The Minutemen are more of a loosely organised militia than a strict military. To me, the rank of General means nothing more than "this guy does way more fucking work than the rest of you lazy assholes."

>>164045574
The General is really just a political icon figure used to rally people together.

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>>164042890
>what is "learning"

Dude, seriously.
Most of the higher leaders in the Institute hate the wastelanders, for sure, but also most of the other people would eventually accept the idea of working to better humanity, via actually doing something for the people up there, not for "a bright, but remote, future": they have the means and the technology, they just don't have anyone who could.."test" their research.

If the SS will be the next Father, I'm sure he would be able to change a thing or two, especially considering the SS could be a trust-worthy figure, being the General of the MM, an affiliate of the RR and a soldier for the BoS.
He could help the synth, explain everyone why the Institute did what they did and why it was wrong: explaing how now everything will be different, that this new technology will be used for a greater good: in the beginning everyone will doubt, but eventually, when the results will be under everyone's eyes, maybe things could change at that point.

too bad FO lore revolves around destruction and death, instead of rebuilding a new world..a new Rapture, a new Columbia! Just like in Bioshock

>>164045796
>Most of the higher leaders in the Institute hate the wastelanders, for sure, but also most of the other people would eventually accept the idea of working to better humanity
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

How fucking naive are you?

>He could help the synth, explain everyone why the Institute did what they did and why it was wrong
The Institute didn't do anything wrong besides not have 100% complete and total control over how far their synths minds developed which was honestly something they never really oculd have had complete control over.

>>164045796
>actually wanting to work with the institute
No one in their right minds would want to work with people who live like hermits and kidnap people for "muh greater good." If their only value to the Commonwealth was their tech, then the right approach would be to just take it, or destroy it.

>>164046226
People who hate the institute don't understand them, I find them, just like people who hate trump and scream DRUMPF are usually idiots who only listen to their left leaning news station and hangout on reddit

still, they could have developed the MIT further

>>164046351
>No one in their right minds would want to work with people who live like hermits and kidnap people for "muh greater good."

The greater good being the benefit of all mankind. Being lifted out of the wasteland and into post-scarcity civilization. Surely there exists a being in the wasteland without a narrow and myopic viewpoint as to help them on their quest.

>>164046747
Not him, but the only people The Institute considered part of the greater good was themselves.

They were perfectly willing to let the rest of humanity rot while they lived in their own utopia underground.

>>164046849
considering that they have done jack shit for 200 years while I was building farms and settlements from ground up straight out of cryostasis, they might be right

>>164046747
>Surely there exists a being in the wasteland without a narrow and myopic viewpoint as to help them on their quest.
Yeah, and that Wastelander made the only right choice and joined the BoS. Besides synthetic food and cleaner living arrangements, the Institute wasn't some utopia they claimed it was. There are no shortcuts in rebuilding a world, and that includes the philosophies being re-forged.

The Institute are glorified slavers and the Brotherhood of Steel are genocidal maniacs. Railroad and Minuteman alliance is the only true path to victory.

>>164046972
>Yeah, and that Wastelander made the only right choice and joined the BoS.

Literally the posterboys for shortsighted and narrowminded thinking.

>>164046947
Uhh they established Diamond City, Goodneighbor, Bunker Hill, Covenant, The Slog, and other places like University Point, Salem, and Quincy, all of which were rather large settlements.

On top of smaller farming settlement likes the Abernathy, Finch, and Warwich homesteads, as well as places like Oberland Stations, Tenpines Bluff, County Crossing, and other small settlements.

Not to mention well established and organized trade routes going to most veery major settlement in The commonwealth, and all up and down the coast to places like D.C., and Ronto

But yeah, they have done nothing for 200 years

>>164047170
>The Institute are glorified slavers

And so are you I guess for using whatever tech you have as the tool it is.

>>164043021
>stretching all the way down to the Capital Wasteland
rly?

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>there are people in this very thread that trust the Institute
Disgusting.

>>164047217
compared to what the NCR did in california in about 100 years? Yeah, nothing

Commonwealth is no capital wasteland, but after 200 years, it shouldn't be a backwoods shithole. Bunker hill and Diamond city are the only places with civilization left in it

>>164047173
shaun pls

>>164047359
They have one operative in the Capital Wastes.

>>164047359
sorry, I misread and thought you were discussing Minutemen and not the RR. Carry on.

>>164047373
The NCR only got as far as it did because it had multiple GECKs to jumpstart development, and got saved from the hordes of super mutants and groups like the Enclave, by Gary Stu protags while the people of The commonwealth had to fight them off themselves for 200 years.

>>164047359
Its mentioned in both Fallout 3 and 4 that there are trade routes going all the way from the Commonwealth, to The Capital Wasteland, and down south to the Broken Banks.

Both on land and by boat.

>>164047346
Stop being obtuse.

>>164047494
>They have one operative in the Capital Wastes.
Actually they have more then 5

Herbet Dashwood, Manya Vargas, Tulip, and Father Clifford are all railroad members, not to mention Vicrotia Watts.

We can also hear via morse code messages in the Railroad HQ that they have synth smuggling operations going on down there still by the time of Fallout 3

>>164047346
Bro let me know if you got a sentient hammer lying around.

>>164047373
>compared to what two protagonists and a few GECKs did in california in about 100 years?
and then the Mojave was barely nuked; Vegas not at all.

Commonwealth addmititedly hasn't a hope in hell of being as well off as the South West, but yh, it should definitely be doing better than one stadium; one monument; one jarring tiny walled suburb and an alley/half a street for its cities/towns/hubs

>>164046972
>quasi religious organisation that know they are right about everything and are determined to prove it while they trample the masses with blind loyalty and consume anything they see fit ad victorium

nah fuck BoS

>>164047737
> Fallout 3
Fallout 4*

>>164047605
Actually, they got that far by being organized and expanding borders

They actually did something with themselves while people of the commonwealth seem to be content living in their own filth. They have few farms here and there and like 2 or 3 towns, that's about it.

What the protagonists did or didn't do doesn't matter, because if the enclave/master weren't stopped, the whole timeline would have changed anyways, so that's a non argument, people of the commonwealth are still lazy niggers. Not like they don't have the tech or the capability, they just don't care, the MIT has every reason to be disgusted and treat them like degenerates

>>164047785
> one stadium; one monument; one jarring tiny walled suburb and an alley/half a street for its cities/towns/hubs
Did you forget they also had large settlements in Salem, Quincy, and University Point before they were all destroyed in the last few years by Gunners, Synths, and an invasion of Mirelurks?

Not to mention Vault 81 and The Institute

>>164047993
well, they were shit settlements, then

>>164047970
>Actually, they got that far by being organized and expanding borders
And if you played Fallout 2 you would know that every single major settlement they took in northern California was done so because The Chosen One set up all the deal and shit for them.

>They actually did something with themselves while people of the commonwealth seem to be content living in their own filth.
Did you forget that the people of The Commonwealth tried to come together to form the CPG over 100 years ago? and that, since the CPG collapsed, The Institute has been systematically ruining any other attempt to organize?

>What the protagonists did or didn't do doesn't matter
Except becuase every major political gain made by the NCR in both Fallout 2 and NV was directly set up by the Chosen One/Courier.

The NCr is 100% unable to do ANYTHING on its own

>>164048117
Yeah, and by that logic all the settlements in Fallout 1/2 are shit because they would have all fallen to either the Master's horde or the Enclave had the Vault Dweller/Chosen One not been around to stop them.

>>164047831
>hating the BoS for being the beacon of humanity and the only defense against tyrannical forces such as the Institute
It's like you hate heroes or something

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>>164047367
I don't trust them, I hate most of their memebers and I think they're cunts, especially Shaun, because like this guy said
>>164046226
I'm naive enough to think that with this kind of technology, the Institute could really help the "normal" people up there: instead, after gaining autarchy and self-consciousness, they decided that creating synth and using them to "experiment" with other people's lives, and eventually fucking everything up, was the right choice.

But what I'm trying to say is that, the Institute is seen as the boogeyman for the right reason: but this doesn't necessarily mean you can't change that, by helping people, when you're in charge of the institute.

>>164047831
it's "ad victoriam", "victoria", victory, is a female noun

Also,

>>164046226
kidnapping and substituting human beings with robotic counterparts isn't exactly a good thing: also, it doesn't really make much sense, on a "scientific" standpoint: since Shaun talks all the time about "a better future fo all humanity", how the replication of the human personality inside a mechanical vessel could improve someone's life? especially considering we're talking about a post-apocalyptic world, non some bright futuristic utopia à la Steven Spielberg

>>164048332
there's a difference between a horde of super mutants/the Enclave and some regular human bean mercs/crabs

synths is legit

>>164048513
The Gunners have enough firepower to have leveled any settlement in Fallout 1/2s time except Lost Hills.

>>164048207
>The NCr is 100% unable to do ANYTHING on its own
Except that Shady Sands was the most civilized place in the wasteland, most likely the world, even before chosen one set foot in the place. It's even implied they have working cars there, And he didn't "Do everything" for them, he was a political agent that tipped scales in their favor.

You don't seem to have basic grasps on politics, economy, or fallout lore, which explains why you hate the institute without a reason

Just another reason to never listen to idiots like you, the fate of humankind belongs to people competent enough to manage it, not pseudo intellectuals who think they got it all figured out

>>164048513
Legit trash. What benefit is mass producing robots that can't even be controlled? They can't even breed or grow old. If we're mass producing robots, just make them like the clones in Star Wars and send them into battles.

>>164048627
>this faction has enough firepower to level cities at X locations five decades ago

lol

I'd like to see them fly into NCR and level those places now

>>164048774
>Just another reason to never listen to idiots like you, the fate of humankind belongs to people competent enough to manage it, not pseudo intellectuals who think they got it all figured out
You just described why the Commonwealth should not put their faith in the Institute.

>>164048774
>Except that Shady Sands was the most civilized place in the wasteland, most likely the world, even before chosen one set foot in the place.
And Shady Sands was built using two GECKs.

>You don't seem to have basic grasps on politics, economy, or fallout lore, which explains why you hate the institute without a reason
I don't hate The Institute at all, are you sure you don't have me confused for another anon?

>>164046747
You don't improve mankind by shutting yourself and your accomplishments off from the rest of world because "muh rads muthafucka." Or dump fucking super mutants and synths on the surface and wonder why people can't rebuild when their settlements keep getting scrapped or destroyed.

>>164048784
> They can't even breed or grow old
That is a good thing you dingus.

Not being able to breed means you can control their numbers.

and not being able to grow old means they are always at their prime/most useful

>>164048976
>And Shady Sands was built using two GECKs
I thought that was Vault City.

>>164047762
I'm sure it's trying to escape my villainous clutches as we speak.

>>164049131
yes, that WAS vault city. Shady sands was built from ground up by farmers

Like I said, it's just some moron talking bull

>>164049131
Vault city was build using a GECK, but its stated in Fallout 1/2 that Shady Sands was built using two GECKs from V15

http://fallout.gamepedia.com/Shady_Sands#cite_note-5
>A GECK? Well, that's old history, so what the hell. You mean the old Garden of Eden Kit. We had one - I mean our grandparents had one. Used it when they came out of Vault 15. Got this place started, they say. It's all used up now.

>GECK, eh? Back when I was studying Vault tech, I read about those. Supposedly every vault got one and it was supposed to be the first thing used once a vault got opened. They say that's how Shady Sands got its start - from a GECK. That help at all?

>>164048371
>hating the Jihadists for being the beacon of Islam and the only defense against tyrranical forces such as the Christians and Jews
It's like you hate heroes or something

>>164048470
Forgive my lack of knowledge of latin despite it being a dead language

>>164049265
>Shady sands was built from ground up by farmers
Wrong, see
>>164049286

For a guy who likes to say others don't know Fallout lore, you don't seem to know it yourself.

>>164049117
>Not being able to breed means you can control their numbers.
>Institute proceeds to shit a new synth out every 30 seconds with no indication of stopping

>>164049410
>For a guy who likes to say others don't know Fallout lore, you don't seem to know it yourself.
/fog/ in a nutshell.
Trying to talk lore here is like pulling teeth

>>164049117
>Not being able to breed means you can control their numbers.
Until they start wondering they can't make a baby, love it, and raise it. You're actively robbing them of that pleasure and the virtue to love.

>and not being able to grow old means they are always at their prime/most useful
Until they start wondering if there is more to life. There's no future for them.

>>164049293
>BoS are jihadists
>Not fundamentally understanding religion and just blindly use it as an analogy for a videogame
?

>>164049497
>Institute proceeds to shit a new synth out every 30 seconds with no indication of stopping
>Using the in-game animation as evidence of anything
>ignoring the terminal nearby that lists only a handful of synths as being scheduled for production
Please tell me you aren't this retarded.

>>164049561
> You're actively robbing them of that pleasure and the virtue to love.
Synths are designed to not feel emotions, or have self awareness, that some develop it is the bigger problem then the small handful who do and are deprived of love or w/e

>>164049410
It's been a long time since I played F2, I don't remember them mentioning it, or I must have forgot it

That doesn't change anything tho, there are plenty of farmers making due in the commonwealth without a fucking GECK, where there is will, there is work done. GECK didn't do anything for shady sands but provide them with basic resources from the start, they still decided to expand and become a nation instead of some squabbling town, GECK or not.

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>>164049502
>tfw there are people on this general who genuinely believe Fallout 3 and 4 had good lore and storylines

>>164049583
>Taking anything the Institute terminals say about synths seriously when they're unable to even track the ones they lose

>>164049583
And yet it just keeps producing them.
For this to make sense it would have to be a 1 time thing with the machine being powered down, scheduled for maintenance and not operative until the next cycle.

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This robot is awesome.

I can't wait to see them zooming about the ocean, protecting america.

>>164049736
>Implying that has any bearing on how accurate their production schedule is

>>164049762
That is rather unnecessary given that 99.99% of gamers are aware enough of "it being a game" to not take it at face value.

That you are part of the .01% that doesn't understand games are not real life is the bigger issue here

>>164049687
Then why substitute humans with synths and cause confusion and despair for the Commonwealth? What benefit does it serve? Scouting? Because you can't build a true colony if everyone is a robot and some aren't even aware of it.

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Why is Fahrenheit so cute.

>>164049561
I used it as an analogy to illustrate the point that people who believe they are right and will do anything to achieve their goals with blind loyalty can be dangerous

The hyperbole may have been unneccesary, but it doesnt change the fact that perspective changes heroes to villains and dictators into saints and thats the important point to understand

>>164049895
Except taken at face value it's apparent that there's no stop in the production of synths. Trying to signal that you're "smarter" for being in an imagined majority who believe otherwise is pretty hilarious though.

>>164049895
>That you are part of the .01% that doesn't understand games are not real life is the bigger issue here
No, the real issue is you trying to act like you're better than him because he wants consistency in a videogame.
Woah, stop the fucking presses, someone wants something to make sense.
Shit, better pretend he can't separate reality from fiction.
Nah, that doesn't make you look like a pretentious cunt at all.

>>164050002
Because after the fall of the CPG everyone started blaming The Institute for every little thing that went wrong in their lives, even if The Institute wasn't behind it.

The Institute started replacing people, such as the mayor of Diamond City, as a means to control the populace and prevent them from uniting and using their paranoia as a means to attack The Institute.

If The Institute did nothing the people would still blame them for everything due to the CPG and Broken Mask Incidents, but those people would be able to come together and possibly attack/destroy The Institute.

IT was self preservation from the paranoia of backwards wastelander hicks who were blaming them for everything anyways

>>164049770
Godspeed Cap

>>164050183
>Consistency
>in video games
This is by far the most retarded argument you could ever pull ever.

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>>164050291
The Institute didn't exactly help their reputation when they started actually pulling the shit people claimed they were doing.

It feels like half the issues the Institute faced because of paranoid rumors would have never happened had they just not made their machines look human. Humanoid is fine, but making them look human reeks of deception even if none is intended.

>>164050593
Actually good video games tend to have a lot of consistency. You're retarded for insinuating otherwise.

>>164050593
You mean because it never happens because devs are fucking lazy shits?

But no, you mean because "haha just chill bro videogames are for nerds anyway lmao".
Fuck off, faggot.
Internal consistency is more important than your faggy robots.

>>164050593
Confirmed for trolling please ignore

>>164050593
t. Pete Hines

>>164050728
>The Institute didn't exactly help their reputation when they started actually pulling the shit people claimed they were doing.
Their reputation was already shot beyond repair before they even started doing anything though.

The CPG fell 100+ years ago, and they spent several decades trying to just stay underground, and avoid people, but then the Broken Mask Incident happened, which only made the problem even worse, and forced them to take action.

> Humanoid is fine, but making them look human reeks of deception even if none is intended.
And why should they care?

The whole point of Gen 3 synths is that they are made sing a perfected form of FEV that gives those synths quasi immortality, making them the perfect labor force that basically never break down like normal robots do.

>>164050732
No, it never happens because the devs don't expect you to stand around in the room and watch it play for days on end. Because no one actually playing the game would.

The animation plays when you are in the room so you can see how it works.

The other 99% of the game when you aren't in the room is when you can assume they have it turned off.

Plenty of games do this exact same shit and it bothers no one except the small handful of people who unrealistically just stand in one room for days trying to find faults with the game would ever be in the room long enough for it to play so many times that it becomes unrealistic.

>>164051004
>that basically never break down
Except that pesky unwanted sentience that causes large amounts of death, both intentionally and accidentally, even before the Railfags come into the picture.

>>164051004
Which likely took way more effort and resources than just finding a way to make nanobots that can support and maintain a regular robot workforce.

>>164051156
>not erecting the /k/ube

for shame

>>164051215
Go into the room right and talk to everyone, preferably with the machine in the background.
Don't skip through the dialog like some ADHD child, but let the people speak.

Time it and tell me how many synths are made.

>>164049770
>Kamala

what an ugly name

>>164051351
>Time it and tell me how many synths are made.
Less then 100.

>>164051272
Nanobots aren't possible in Fallout because technological miniaturization on that level doesn't exist.

Nonobots also don't solve the problem of limit robot AI which causes problems like My Handy bots like Codsworth and Curie being stuck doing tasks like cleaning the house, and waiting for authorization to leave the room, long after after they have stopped being useful.

>>164051225
Gen 3's synths don't actually kill that many people though.

The only large Gen 3 killer is Gabriel, who was the Railroad's fault.

>>164033135
Misinformed and truly believes of she shows her prowess in combat and diplomacy she will be elevated to her own godlike myth. Delusional with a god complex and has a strict set of morals, and does not hesitate. Intelligence and strength should be high, tag unarmed/melee and speech.

>>164051351
just in case this doesnt go anywhere, whats the time frame and how many synths are made? If you've done it that is. You've really piqued my curiosity

>>164051887
These people made a teleporter that dematerialises and rematerialises people perfectly in any location they want, and created living, breathing machines indistinguishable from humans. In 100 years they could have absolutely miniaturised robots had they just focused on that aspect.

>>164052232
>In 100 years they could have absolutely miniaturised robots had they just focused on that aspect.
You say that as if Fallout's unvierse isn't highly limited by 1950's scifi cliches.

>>164051921
More than one, is my point.
Just a quick search of the room is enough to make two full synths and anyone with an even halfway functioning brain comes to the conclusion "shit, they make a lot of fucking synths".
If Bethesda wanted to show them only making a few, why leaving the machine on loop?

>>164051887
>Less then 100.
And when you fast travel across the map, how many more are made?
I'm not entirely sure if using the teleporter takes time but fast travel back to the Institute and, again, how many more are made?
This isn't looking too far into something, this is literally just going with what they've shown.

It's like how the BoS and, arguably, Minutemen are the only factions to actually do something.
You can't show something in-game and then pretend it's the opposite.

>>164052318
>And when you fast travel across the map, how many more are made?
Depends, is the machine on or off when you are fast traveling?

You aren't in the room to see it on, so they could have turned it off.

>I'm not entirely sure if using the teleporter takes time
Like a minute.

>>164052447
>Depends, is the machine on or off when you are fast traveling?
Considering it's always on, I'm going to have to guess on.

Still, even having it on five minutes a day would create hundreds, even thousands, in a very short time.

>>164052647
>Considering it's always on
[citation needed]

>>164052647
Even is we assume its on all day(which is total bullshit), accounting for the game's time scale, it takes anywhere from 15-20 minutes(in game) to make a synth.

At this rate, they could make 72-96 synths a day.

>>164052690
The game shows you it on, you can come in any time and it's on, you can wait in the room for years in game and it'll be on.
That's citation enough, faggot, but if you don't believe me, you're welcome to test it out yourself.
You've got the game after all.

Why don't you count how many synths are made during that time while you're at it?

>>164032734
for FO3 mods, it's usually a pretty big pain (especially stuff like unique uniques) but nothing you can't do with a little FNVedit/geck
for FNV mods, you might have to fuck around levelled lists, but other than that there's no big issues

>>164052870
>The game shows you it on, you can come in any time and it's on, you can wait in the room for years in game and it'll be on.
And you can follow an NPC around all day and never see them take a shit, does that mean no one ever takes a shit in Fallout?

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>>164049293
If you don't know it, don't speak it then: you won't impress anyone, using big words, if you can't spell them right.
But, yes, maybe I'm just triggered because here in italy latin is pretty important.

>>164049702
dat smug Krennick

>>164052997
Yes.

>>164052997
>If I put an item in a box and close it, is the item still in the box?

This is you.

>>164053094
>here in italy latin is pretty important.
And in any academic field.

>>164053102
Then you are retarded.

Just like Iguanas have been a meal time staple of Fallout since the first game, but have ever been seen in-game, does not mean they do not exist.

People not taking a shit in-game does not mean people do not take a shit in lore.

The synth maker not ever turning off while you are in the room does not mean they don't turn it off (and the terminals nearby prove they only make a handful)

I always find it funny how shit games have done for decades is alright when everyone else does it, but the second it happens in a Fallout/TEs game its WRONG!

>>164053441
>and the terminals nearby prove they only make a handful
What about the large amount throughout the wasteland?
Spies, copycats, synth settlers.
The Institute is just lies, through and through, even to themselves.
It's like Shaun making kid Shaun to fuck, but not telling anyone he wanted to do himself as a kid.
Lies upon lies, you intentionally obtuse faggot.

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>>164053441
>iguanas
Boy have I got some iguanas to sell you

>>164053441
>but the second it happens in a Fallout/TEs game its WRONG!
That might be because we're in the Fallout general, anon.
This seems like the logical place for criticism, rather than blind praise.
In fact, if you want blind praise of the game, there are a lot of websites more suited to you.

>>164053675
>What about the large amount throughout the wasteland?
The only synths we see frequently in the waseland are Gen 1/2's, and even those are uncommon.

Out of the thousands of NPCs in the Commonwealth, theres less then 20 actual Gen 3 synths in the wasteland

>>164053820
No one expect blind praise anon.

Pointing out that bitching about a common minor details that games have avoided showing for basic reasons for decades =/= I expect blind praise.

It just means you are being an idiot.

>>164053851
>theres less then 20 actual Gen 3 synths in the wasteland
Is that including the replacement settlers?
What about all the synths in the Railroad quests?
There's a fucking lot of synths out there, a terminal entry doesn't change that.

Funnily enough, for some reason, I'd bet you think Jet is pre-war.

>>164053976
>it's been happening for decades so it's a good and/or acceptable thing
I don't even care about lore but that's just stupid

>>164054031
>What about all the synths in the Railroad quests?
Almost all of those are ones that recently escaped.

>There's a fucking lot of synths out there, a terminal entry doesn't change that.
Not really
-Sturges
-Glory
-Magnolia
-Danse
-Art
-H2-22
-That one you find while tracking down the Courser
-Those 4 in bunker Hill
-Amelia Stockton
-Mayor Mcfuckface
-That guy who gets killed in Goodneighbor
-Roger Warwick
-Gabriel

Not even 20

>>164054031
>Funnily enough, for some reason, I'd bet you think Jet is pre-war.

http://www.sugarbombed.com/forums/threads/chris-avellone-interview-part-1.21018/

SB: One last Fallout 4 related question. Bethesda, specifically the lead BGS writer Emil Pagularo, have taken some heat for multiple lore inconsistencies found in Fallout 4. For example, according to Fallout 4, jet was available pre-war and not created by Myron in Fallout 2. Also, there is an Enclave Power Armor suit at Nuka World that was also made pre-war (when it explicitly states in the game it was created post war), among other inconsistencies. How much is making sure all the lore in your games adds up and is consistent something you focus on in your games? And do you take issue with Bethesda at all for these lore inconsistencies?

CA: Do I take issue with them? No. (And considering what jet was originally made from, that lore point should make a lot of players happy.)

>>164053369
>any academic field

HE'S WITH THE INSTITUTE, TAKE HIM!

I know, biology, chemistry, been there done that. it's not that useless they also taught me ancient greek which could be even more useless and important at the same time
F4 is full of inconsistencies anyway, so..what do you guys enjoyed the most in this game?

>>164054031
But Jet IS pre-war, even in FO2 it was pre-war.
It's just a meme reference to the time period anyway, why do people take issue with it,.

>>164054031
To be entirely fair, Jet probably was prewar. I mean its not like Myron discovered the ability to ferment and huff shit fumes.

>>164054603
>F4 is full of inconsistencies anyway,
Not really.

The most commonly cited "inconstancy" is with ghouls, which ignores that ferals are feral, driven by primal actions, such as the need to feed, even if they don't HAVE to eat.

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>>164050003
>when you interrupt a super mutant cooking on a patio

>>164054678
Myron even states in Fallout 2 that the protien extract that gave cows shit the potentcy is does was made pre-war, fed to the cows pre-war, and, he also states that its so potent, that people post-war are getting high just by being near brahmin shit, even if they aren't directly huffing it.

The likelihood that no one discovered that same level of power in cow shit pre-war is zero.

Even ignoring Fallout 4, and just going by what Myron himself states in Fallout 2.

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>>164054762
>approach super mutant base
>beep beep beep beep

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>>164054989
>target right arm in vats
>fire 6 shots
>they all miss

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Robo-skeletons>lame clone humans with chiped brains

>>164053094
I was using it in context with the brotherhood, who explain verbatim what it means, to illustrate a point. You knew exactly what I meant and so would anyone else familiar with the BoS.

You, taking the time to demonstrate your grammatical pedantry and then to slide further up your high horse, just look like a pretentious wop cunt

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>>164054762
>>164055062
Bank that critical to save your ass in situations like that.

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>>164055062
>last vat shot
>reloads weapon

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>caeser's legion
>leader surrounds himself with yes-men
>gets revered like a god
>uses child soldiers

>fo4 bos
>leader surrounds himself with yes-men
>gets revered like a god
>uses child soldiers

really lights up the ol brain pan

>>164055287
Or he was just trying to help you learn something so you didn't look like an idiot next time.
Rather than just saying "ad victoriam*", which you'd get pissy about anyway, he explained to you what it meant.
Christ, what's with kids and hating learning anything?
Why does it always, always have to be taken as a personal attack?
inb4 "im not a kid". If you don't want to have people perceive you as a child, don't fucking act like one.

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>>164054707
Ok

>>164054989
>>164055062

FUCK those things

>>164055287
It wasn't even correct in that context, you wanted to sound cool using strange words. I corrected you, yes on this day someone on the internet tried to teach you something, oh my god.
And I didn't even have to rely on racism to prove my point.


>>164055330
Yeah I usually do this, beacause also I never hit a damn thing without a CRIT

>>164055330
Looks like he's in the middle of some retarded modern dance move.

>>164055576
no. I knew what it meant. I mispelled it. Does reading comprehension come second to bitching about millenials for you?

honestly theres a decent chance I'm older than you anyway

>>164055794
Probably Nick's stun baton stunning and killing the Super Mutant at the same time.

>>164054707
Yea. That's one of the things that pissed me off about Fallout 4. The dormant ghouls. Like I walked past a cemetery downtown and 6 of those fuckers rose out of the ground like zombies. Holy shit fuck whoever redesigned ghouls.

>>164055751
>to victory

how does that not make sense when thats literally what they say after everything as their creed and motto?

>>164055809
>I mispelled it
And you expected him to know that?
No wonder you got pissy, people aren't psychic, especially over the internet.

>bitching about millenials
Getting frustrated with children*

>honestly theres a decent chance I'm older than you anyway
I sincerely doubt that, but even if I told you, you'd claim to be older, as if acting like a child older than I am is something to be proud of.
Seriously, grow up.
He was trying to help you learn, that's a positive thing at any age.

>>164055942
No, Nick's stance is the retarded modern dance move.

>>164055435
Are there any mods that make your actions in VATS faster? Not the time slow of aiming in VATS, but the execution of your attacks.

Make it feel like Red Dead Redemption's Dead Eye or something.

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>>164055330
>>164056150
Oh, yeah, that's just the dumb melee animation swing, though. Can't do much about that.

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>>164055964
Ok so take this guy right here
>>164055809
since he cares so much about reading comprehension, and kindly ask him to teach you the difference between "it doesn't make sense" and "this phrase is used outside of context".

I know "ad victoriam" is BoS' motto, thanks. I also understand what a motto is.

What the anon posted was, replacing "ad victoriam" with it's literal translation,
>quasi religious organisation that know they are right about everything and are determined to prove it while they trample the masses with blind loyalty and consume anything they see fit, to victory!

Now, since "ad victoriam" is an exhortation, (like "let's win this, c'mon!" it doesn't make much sense at the end of that sentence, hence why I said "it's out of context" rather than "it does not make any sense".

Now, since I'm 26 and apparently age has somethng to do with intelligence rather than maturity, I think I've earned the right to correct somebody making a little mistake.

Yes, I undesrtand
>>164055809
You mispelled, that's why I simply told you how to write it, in case you didn't know. Also, you seem to be fond of using fancy words, just like you did in this post
>>164055287
using the word "verbatim"; but then again, in this other post
>>164049293
you seem to disdain the use of latin, since it's "a dead language". You seem confused anon. I just wanted to help you, but since this is /fog/ and not /latingrammar/ I think we should move on

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This is exactly what I think of when I think of Nexus Waifus.

Except her waist isn't quite thin enough.

>>164054371
All this tells me is that Chris no longer has any passion for the worlds he creates and is involved in.

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>>164038674

They're still organic

The Institute clearly doesn't realize what they've actually made

>>164056828
I appreciate the effort you put into telling him what's what, namefag.
My guess is he'll still bitch because he's an immature shit who takes any criticism as a personal attack. Remember, can't let any think they're less than perfect, awards for mediocrity or worse, etc.

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>>164056547
>when the AI is so dumb you almost miss that there's a raider sitting next to you
I think one of my mods affecting the interior fogs appears to be messing up here. Serious white washing going on.

>>164038674
If I sew a shirt with a needle and thread or a sewing machine, it is a shirt nonetheless.

So why the FUCK can I not buy the ultimate edition of new vegas on steam? It says I already own it, I only own the standard version. Have no dlc. I want the ultimate for the dlc. Buying all the dlc individually for my standard costs more then buying the ultimate edition. But steam won't let me buy the ultimate because it thinks it's the same thing. This is so stupid. AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH I FUCKING HATE PC GAMING SOMETIMES

>>164057350
Library > New Vegas > Support > Remove Game From Account

Buy Ultimate Edition

>>164057448
Oh cool. Thanks friendo.

>>164057092
My main and only issue is trying to explain myself in the most accurate way, since english is not my main language. If someones (and this has happened a lot of times already) corrects me about what I'm writing, I'd be pleased to acknowledge my mistakes, preventing myself from doing it again the next time. Maybe it's just me.


And maybe it's just THIS FUCKING BUGGED GAME that pisses me off so much, why can't I assign a "maxed-out-affinity" companion to a goddamn bed now

>Playing NV
>Trying to blow up caves under Vault 19 (quest Why can't we be friends?)
>No option to do so.

Is this a bug? The wikia page for the quest lists no bug related to this. When I interact with the rocks, it doesn't show a menu, doesn't show requirements, nothing.

>>164057573
>Maybe it's just me
It just comes from you having to put in conscious effort to learn English, non nigger-tier foreigners tend to have a similar mindset.
If you'd never mentioned it wasn't your native tongue, I wouldn't have known.
You're doing a good job, keep it up, namefag.

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>>164057069
>tfw there never was a quest to make your own custom synth waifu

>>164057020
>All this tells me is that Chris no longer has any passion for the worlds he creates and is involved in.
All this tells me is that Chris is like every other single video game developer and cares more about creating a fun game then some handful of autists who care about shit like if jet is pre-war or not.

Fallout 4 is the finest game of all. It can be whatever you want.

I mean, what other game can you mod so that all of your faction are muscular women wearing bikinis?

>>164058425
All this tells me is that Chris is like every other single video game developer and cares more about getting money from whoever is paying best.
FTFY

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>>164058406

I guess you could:
>Change Synth Curie's appearance
>download Synth Ada mod and change her to how you like
>download Synth Nora mod and change her to how you like

Unless you mean custom voice too

>>164058479
Fallout 3, Fallout: New Vegas, Skyrim, Oblivion, Morrowind, probably some more.

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>>164058479
God bless musclegirls

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>>164057284
Don't think I ever used Drinkin' Buddy in my first playthrough and probably won't use him this one either,, but I think I'll keep him just to spite Rufus.

>>164058770
Fine, you cvan mod muscular bikini women into those too.

Bit the graphics wouldnn't be as good;

>>164059010
Skyrim is arguably better looking.
You can actually fuck them in Skyrim, so it's got Fallout 4 beat.

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>>164058406
There's a mod that allows you to build a "custom companion" you could give her a synth body and that's it.

Hell, the mod gives you an item so you can change your appearence: downlaod that mod, along with one of the few "custom synth follower" and you're done.

>>164058934
Have you updated your ENB perhaps?

>>164059010
Yes, you're right
Oldrim is better

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>>164058746
>Synth Ada mod
>Synth Ada mod
>Synth Ada mod
NO NO NO

>>164024117
Is this Pilot?

>Fireworks captcha
stop now REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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I really wish Nuka World added a raider ending. Would have been perfect for Punished Nora. Can't even do Minutemen while being a raider. Shit's gay as fuck.

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New Fallout when guise

FO4 is dead as fuck

>>164059225

I don't even see synth Ada on Nexus anymore

I guess it got hidden because of his feelios

>>164059593
>Cait will never get drunk and put you in a headlock
Why am I even alive?

>>164059593
Two years.

They'll do another elder scrolls next.

I hope it's in the Summerset Isles. Fucking lovr the Altmer.

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>>164059593
Funny, I was about to post the very same pic


Anyway, I can't assign any companion to a bed, or a job, after I maxed out their affinity. Is there a way to fix this, or I need to be a bad girl until they hate so they can finally sleep int their beds?

..this doesn't really make sense.

>>164059779
But Skyrim came out in 2011, and TESO doesn't really count. I'd say..more 4 years?

>>164059593
>Fallout 5
>remove AP
>adding QTE everywhere
>more Danse (and you can play as Danse)

>>164059593
>>164059779

Fallout 4 VR has yet to come out

>>164059942
Just give me Altmer.

I want to be an Altmer on Altmer island and win qith all of the Altmer.

>>164059779
Fuck off, knife ear.
Only thing the Altmer did that was worthwhile is rape the Bretons into existence.

>>164059779
>I hope it's in the Summerset Isles.
1. Its Alinor, they renamed it in Skyrim
2. It would never be in Alinor because the Altmer are piss skins and don't et anyone else onto thier island.

If anything, it will be Hammerfell or Valenwood

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>>164060052
You Altmer scum!

I legitimately enjoy /fog/ turning into /tesg/, maybe we won't 404 after 300 posts.

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>>164059758
>ywn wrestle with Cait and get beaten up by her dirty fighting tactics

>>164059973
Please no

>>164033135
Brain damage.

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>>164060512
>she will never say to you "too bad we can't make it a threesome" before going into the tent with Piper, leaving you outside all alone

I want to buy Fallout New Vegas on Steam, but I'm very stingy.

What are some good points that would convince me to buy it?
And are there a lot of good mods for the game to keep it interesting once I finish it?

>>164059593
In another seven years. Ded thread until 2022.

>>164060102
>2. It would never be in Alinor because the Altmer are piss skins and don't et anyone else onto thier island.
Just like how Cyrodil was a jungle eh friend

>>164061036
>buying New Vegas
>$1 goes to Bethesda
I just can't

>>164060102
>don't et anyone else onto thier island.
Maybe as slaves?

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>>164060973
Well, either Danse is trying to hit on me, or I may have some bug with NPCs right now..

>>164061036
>What are some good points that would convince me to buy it?
If you're interested in it, pirate it and then buy it later if you enjoy it.
Although, I'd recommend NOT buying it unless you really want to give Bethesda full profits for a game they didn't make.
>And are there a lot of good mods for the game to keep it interesting once I finish it?
That's not a difficult question.
In fact, it's so easy a very simple Google search would have brought up those answers for you.
The answer is yes.

>>164061242
Pirate Fallout 4 to balance it out. Piracy causes actual money to be removed the company's actual bank account.

>>164060102
> Altmer are piss skins and don't et anyone else onto thier island.
Just like how Skyrim Nords wont allow cats and lizards in their cities and theennnnn

>>164061323
>Pirating
I don't think I want to, even though it would be the preferred option.
I'm pretty paranoid about the government catching me doing anything illegal and having any more beef on me so I'd really rather not.

You're right about the googling though, that was pretty stupid of me.

>>164061302
I doubt he's trying to hit on you, you look like a crack whore.

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>>164061302
Replying to (you) because this might help somebody else:

the problem seems to be caused by the mod "Combat Zone Overhaul"


>>164061715
B-but mom said I'm pretty

>>164061664
Just use a proxy.

>>164061356
I'm not reinstalling that piece of shit, and this won't give me back the $1 I would give to Bethesda.

>>164020492
4>Modded NV>3>NV
Irrelevant: 1,2.

>>164061831
Not sure how that works, and I'm not sure if I want to risk it. But thanks for the suggestion, I'll google around and learn how a proxy works.

One more question about New Vegas, are the DLCs good? FO 4's DLC were pretty disappointing and definitely not worth the season pass. I still feel pretty fucking cheated on it.

If I do end up just buying the game, is it worth paying extra for all the dlc or should I just go cheap and buy the base game?

>>164061664
The only way you'd ever be caught for piracy is by seeding for hours on end and even then that's just an infraction on your net account that you can fight off if you even want to. Just cut and run.

>>164062234
Just get the complete edition.
The DLC are worth it and the complete edition is commonly on sale for $5.
Don't be a heeb.

>>164062546
Then why it's $9.99
It's retarded games should be cheaper as time passes.

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>>164062234
They're all pretty good, new weapons, maps and stuff, and it's cheap nowadays

>>164062934
Because sales aren't always the same.
Is this your first time buying anything ever?

>>164063048
This is a nice drawing
I like this drawing

Why does Piper call me Blue? Or am I mishearing her?

>>164063048
>nobody will ever port Cass and her new caravan to Fallout 4
WHY AM I ALIIIIIIIIIIVE

>>164063167
Because DUDE VAULTS LMAO

>>164063167
because Todd though it would be cool

>>164063157
it's a shit drawing idiot

Is there a way to scrap things in the field? Now that I don't need to pick up people's weapons to repair my own, I don't want to have to haul a truck full of pipe guns back to a settlement to find some screws.

>>164061648
Except its explicitly stated in Skyrim that they only don't allow the Khajiit CARAVANS into the city, not Khajiit in general.