/dsg/

What are you favorite pyro strats?

thanks for creating the thread lucy :0)

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>>163946587

spamming Sacred Flame and Lifedrain until it hits

Why want to ______ Priscilla's feet!

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i-is this the end?

>>163947094
put legos under

>>163946472
>not "(You) died" edition
you had literally one job. way to fucking go

>>163947094
chop off

>>163946684
This faggot needs a job or a hobby outside of video games.

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___Cute___

>>163947174
yesfor the base game

>>163947174
yes it is
do the DLC's NOW if you haven't already, or else they become nearly impossible

>>163947239
>>163947197
Mean!

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>>163947328
>>163947353
damn thats pretty worth then.
Ive only been playing for 6 days

I still want to kill the king, do the dlc, and then get all the achievements if I can.
sucks I cant get boss weapons because I accidentally got the lady petrified.

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>>163947202
Why would I do that?

>>163947727
H O W
O
W

>>163947635

What the fuck does versatality even mean in this context and why is something like Darkdrift more versatile then most straight swords?

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>>163947727
>implying
for 4chan itself, it is gone

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Send help.

>>163947886
>being this new

>>163947935
>browing 4chan with no outside programs

You only have yourself to blames. If you want to be attention whores like him, go download what you need

>>163947635
Needs bigger blocks, it's a bit hard to read
All of them should have DaS3 art, this is a DaS3 chart.

And desu I think it easier to read when you put it like
Viability x SkillRequired like before

>>163947678
You will most likely need another playthrough to get all achievements because guessing from your number of locked achievements you messed up some npc quest lines.
>>163947886
>browsing 4chins without a utility userscript
how horrifying

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>tfw no Sanctum Crossbow in DS3

>>163948046
>If you want to be attention whores like him
what the hell implies that, you moron?

>>163947886
4chanX + Oneechan

>>163948220
Why else would you need your (you)s?
You can check replies to your posts just fine even if you don't use anything.

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top kek he cant get in.
he keeps spamming the come here emote, what do ?

>>163948335
Seduce him

>>163948182
We have actual crossbows in DS3 that work like crossbows, not only that one dark orb launcher, thankfully.

>>163948182
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNXBrGd3Nc4
thank god

>>163947925
I think it means "number of things it can do", not "number of things it can do well".

Okay /dsg/, I want a real answer to this question. Let's settle it once and for all. Is Dark Souls 2 a good video game?

>>163948334
first of all, as it should be obvious in >>163947935, i have my (You)s
the reason i want them is because i don't want to wait over the thread for when someone replies to me, i do other stuff inbetween
and finally, the point isn't for me to get my (You)s, it's for the joke to be made.
you fucking retard

>>163948742
It's a shitty joke and I'm glad it's gone.
(you)s had become thumbs up or whatever.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xstUOfuh5gY&t=0s

>>163948842
Not him, but yeah man leave it to 4chan to turn a basic useful tool, like an indicator that a faggot was replying to something you wrote and not somebody else, and turn it into a meme so cringy that Chinese moot had to turn it off.

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>>163948513

>we have this weapon class where all of them work exactly the same except for one and they all share the same shitty WA that nobody uses, instead of varied weapons with unique and useful attacks, thankfully

>>163948513
>being thankful for a painfully boring game

>>163949016

You can apply that to almost every weapon class in DS3 actually.

And the ones that are actually unique are fucking useless most of the time.

>>163948859
ok that was funny

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>>163949016
DS2 crossbows were nerfed into uselessness.
DS3 crossbows are a top tier support weapon class and bleed/exploding/lighting rounds add more utility to them than all DS2 crossbows.

>>163949016
>unique
>useful
>in the souls series

Pick one

>>163949016
>literal dark orb slapped on top of crossbow
>useful
>when this class of weapon itself in ds2 is liquid shit past avelyn nerf

>>163949959

Dark Souls 2

>>163950173
>longsword beats most "unique useful" weapons

>can't slide up ladders

remind me - why do people play this game again?

>>163950256

Wow, just like DS3

>>163950317

How am I supposed to slide up something? I've never seen that.

>>163950449
it's like sliding down a ladder but in the opposite direction

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>beat some guy pretty convincingly in arena
>he sends me this
What did he mean by it?

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>tfw no Souls game where you have to fight the demons of the Ars Goetia and kill the kings of hell

>>163947353
>or else they become nearly impossible
why is that? genuinely curious because I might be in that boat right now

>>163950663
Wow, it would be like fighting the Taurus/Capra demon the entire game because they make up 70% of the bossfights

>>163950780
They don't, nothing changes in the DLC if you beat the base game first. They could mean going into NG+, but it's sort of hard to do that accidentally

>>163950780
It's not, that guy seems retarded.

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> yfw you buy DaSIII after 4 years of playing the first two games.

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>there are people that think of themselves as as a Souls fan while only having played barely over half 3 out of 5, 60%) of the series

>>163952113

>there are people that think of themselves as more than trash while having a PS4

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>>163949462
neat

Best way to get the black knight to drop his halberd in darkroot basin?

What item dics should I have to effectively farm the items for aldrich covenant?
Because fuck the invasions, its either gank squads or hacker...

>>163952963
Ten humanity and gold covetous serpent ring. It's all up to luck beyond that.

>>163952963
ascetics, oh wait

>>163952963
Finish asylum in 2 minutes, go through valley of drakes to the knight. Create the new character if it doesn't drop.

>>163953192

He should pop a humanity or two as well.

>>163953637
When the whole thing takes 5 minutes it's just a waste of time.

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>tfw going back to Scholar after many months
>coming back to Heide's Tower of Flame
yes

>>163953695

It doesn't take any more time if he pops them on the elevators.

>>163951782
so what do you think?

>>163953192
>>163952963
You could also turn off the game right before you kill him and turn off the game fast every time you dont get it

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>a free mobile spin-off is better than the game it was promoting

sasuga From

>>163954086
Both of them were total shit

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>mfw i just realized now is the perfect time to go invading again because of all of the winter sale steam shitters

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>>163950582

>>163954696
Make sure you do it in early-game areas. Newfriends haven't gotten very far yet.

>>163950582
It looks like they have lewds. Join it anyway.

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>tfw you can't use any of the Pinwheel masks for fashion because each of them are big neon signs saying "SHITTER"

>>163955617
The only one that looks any good is the father mask with giants armor anyway

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>in das1 at 16 str 14 dex, gargolye halberd +5 has more ar than a lifehunt scythe+0
The base damage on this thing is insane.

>>163955707
I have to find armor that looks good with the other masks. Mom mask looks pretty rad with Eastern armor.

>>163955445
I declined already, sorry I'm not a faggot.

How do I git gud at manus, all his attacks oneshot me, and he can turn midair to hit me where I was rolling.

This is hard.

>>163956034
Mask of the Child + Chainmail Armor

>>163956194
>stay in front of him
>he starts slamming his fists on the ground
>roll away
>punish
>keep silver pendant ready

>>163956194
You just have to learn the roll timings.

I gave up on learning the ones for the dark magic, the talisman is too good for that.

>>163956194
just fucking shoot him with bow before the fog gate
that's the ultimate mlg method

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What am I in for?

running a 60int mage build

I'd like to carry a dagger as a backup weapon and get fast rolls, but to do so I'd need to respec into vitality

I'd like to reduce my ATN to 32 (currently 34) and invest in Vitality

Good idea y/n ? Mostly use offensive spells

>>163956671
worst pokey weapon in the game that should be called branding iron but from is retarded

>>163956671
It doesn't prevent estus drinking like the description says it does

>>163956671
Something somehow worse than the greatlance

Why ultras are the only weapon class that need a backup faster weapon or they just don't work?

>>163956619
I am aware that you can see him sitting there, but I am not going to start cheating because one boss turns out to be hard.

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This seems like a fun twink build.
Rate?

>>163957028
UGS can fight without crutches unlike the rest.

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>Literal Dark Soul

?

>>163955793

>+5 weapon has more AR than +0 weapon

Stop the fucking presses

>>163957192
There are secret invisible hollows sitting around the world. Kill them for goodies.

>>163957192
Your game is haunted, turn off the console now!

>>163957105
ugs are literally worse gs

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>>163957086
what are you even trying to do?

>there STILL hasn't been a remaster of DS1 released for this gen
what the fuck, from?

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>>163957421
>>163957449

First time playing this version
Who is that supposed to be and what am I missing?

>>163957515
be a spooky grave boy

>>163957456
and gs are worse ss
when you're a fucking shitter

>>163957641
DS1 is on Xbone

>>163957646
>Who is that supposed to be and what am I missing?
literally noone and nothing. these were only add as extra "secrets", since the game severely lacked them. if you wanna put some lore behind them, say aldia made them in an attempt to make better assassins or something

Playing bloodborne made me realize how much ds3 feels like its leftovers

>>163956705
Why 60 and not 50? Wouldn't the extra ten be better in vig or end? Granted I've never made a mage build in DS3

>>163958050
thats the real curse

>>163957897
Does it run any better than on 360? From what I've seen some backward compatible games run worse than on original hardware.

>>163958151
no, because from in their infinite wisdom made magic balanced around 60 int and 3 fucking ring slot, anything below that will yield bad result.

Basically, go 60 int or go full quality, there is no middle ground

>>163958151
The magic actually scales pretty well until 60. You do see a noticable difference.

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>>163958050
>tfw no tophats in DS3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3V9zxXN1rx0

>>163947678
Kill the king first before proceeding to the throne.

>>163948182
Did you get your whip Samus-bro?

>>163948605
Ah yes, sanctum crossbow before the hex nerf, back before people knew how to stack elemental defense.

>>163948683
>>163947925

Versatility: Number of things it can do
Viability: How well does it do those things?

>>163959029
the only thing WP can do well is that running attack, CCS and FS have way more versatility

as well as lucerne

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>>163957086
>HSWC on a twink
it will look like a complete shit

What's the closest thing to the cracked round shield in DS3?
I'm torn between the Hawkwood or Ghru Rotshield.
Gotta make that Laurentius build.

>>163959310
>lucerne
>being any different from other halberds
>WP
>not having a great WA, okay R1s to use once for phantom range and okay roll attack

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Gehrman cosplay?

Nothing else has the big popped collar except the BK armor, but ehh

>>163959541
I bet you're gonna just spam dark serpent and black flame like every pyro scum you fag

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If you fucked up the boss fights with this bitch, can you still get the achievement if you help another player and he summons her?

>>163959725
I was actually thinking more along the lines of profaned flame and some fireballs.
Maybe a great combustion if needed.
It is a cosplay build after all.

>>163959589
>WP
>being any different from other katanas
>Lucerne
>not having great WA, okay hyperarmor and being able to outrade eveything in the game

>>163959791
I don't believe you

the second you start to lose you'll wip out a follower sabre/balanced pole and spam dark serpent.

>>163958151
Not at all, for some retarded reason the Court Sorcerer's Staff only really starts picking up the scaling pace past 50, reaching 238 spell buff at 60int

>>163959676
>no WotG

Disappointed. Also, the blade is closer to a small CGS. At least use falchion since it has a bigger blade than scimitar

>>163960085
Using Scimitar since the blade looks more identical to the Lifehunt's blade.

>>163959746
no, but you can ascetic some boss to fight with her

>>163960013
I already have a hand axe as my main weapon and full conjurator set.
I really do just need help deciding between Hawkwood's shield and the Rotshield for what comes closer to the cracked wooden shield.
I also need help on how to just cheat engine this shit so I can stop playing through DS3 repeatedly, this is like the 7th time.

So here is my plan for this after christmas steam sale

>das1
>dress up as a spooky skeleton with fog ring
>invade depths and parish
>follow noobs around with the skull lanturn until they notice me
>if they attack me, spam gravelord sword dances until one of us dies

What should i do if they just run away?

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>>163958050
DS3 is a really good game but the level/world design is pretty shite in conparison to BB.

But I bet they designed the levels with only one main bonfire in mind and then the Bamco fags forced from to shit up the levels with extra bonfires for no real reason.

Committing to the healing system of DaS2, as good as it was in terms of helping the player feel like there was constant progress, was probably another culprit as to why the devs shat bonfires everywhere. Bloodborne has the perfect compromise between having "limited" heals that you pay for/have to farm of DeS and the infinitely replenishable Estus of DS while having a reasonable maximum you can carry on your person at once.

The DeS style hub system where you only warp TO the Dream or FROM it probably also incentivized for better world connections.

I really really wish next From project allows them to use Japan Studio's talents but I guess there's no way for that if they don't want to have another exclusive.

>>163959676
hey remember when Gehrman had a mask with a big shit-eating grin on it and used a bigass steel armor

>>163960543
It's the only tophat in the game

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How do you mod Dark Souls 3? I want Cinematic FX.

>>163960542
>level
In terms of individual levels BB loses steam completely in first third and later only packs a punch with upper cathedral ward which is tiny and empty albeit with a godly atmosphere, DS3 has much larger and much more well-designed levels all the way in.

>>163960293
doesnt matter what point of the game I am in?

>>163960737
u wot m8

>>163960804
well, you're already past the last encounter, i don't think you can do anything before ng+. otherwise you should be good

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>>163960737
In terms of connections to other levels and shortcuts within levels BB blows DS3 out of the water sorry.

DS3 has good levels but wastes a lot of the potential by shitting out bonfires instead of creating physical connections within the world which sucks because it had the potential to be a tenouttaten game like BB but instead it stays at 8.5/10. DaS is 9, DeS is 8 and DaS2 is 7, with Scholar rising to 8.

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Lady Maria kosplay for Scholar.
I think I did pretty well.

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can someone help me kill this guy

Sotfs, pc

>>163961223
>connections to other levels
There's a single case of actual area interconnectedness in BB's world and it's Forbidden Woods shortcut leading into the clinic. Aside from that the world of BB is even more linear than DS3 which always has more progression forks and more side areas.
>shortcuts within levels
DS3 has like twice as much shortcuts per level as any BB level. It also has cat ring and spook integrated into level design, allowing you to skip HUGE chunks of level you otherwise would not be able to (like 90% of the level in case of Settlement). BB loses because it has no cat ring already.
>shitting out bonfires instead of creating physical connections
It actually has both.
They surely went overboard with bonfires in some levels, but it's as much of a problem as in BB, especially given that in BB you get 20 vials right off the bat and in DS3 you start with 4 hilariously weak estus flasks.

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>>163952113
Bloodborne isn't purely technically a Souls game and Demon's Souls is outdated, janky shit that is outdone by the later games and the only reason to play DeS at this stage is for the atmosphere.

Actually, out of the 5 souls games, 4 are available on pc (DeS , DaS , DaS2/Scholar , Slashy Souls and Dark Souls 3)

Every Souls fan should still check out BB because it's fan fucking tastic.

>>163952346
BB is fun and I'm legit sorry you can't play it.

>>163962013
Honestly, he's a lot easier by yourself. He gets buggy with multiple people.

Just just alternate running from his front leg to out in front of his nose and exploit the fact he does the same two attacks over and over.

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>>163962080
>in bb you get 20 vials
Which are finite like DeS grasses so if you keep sucking at an area/boss, you'll soon have to go farm for that shit.

DaS3 has cool areas but a lot of them would have so much better atmosphere if the devs had nutted up and given bonfires only in the start of the level or in a cental location like CotD / Grand Archives.

>>163961683
or some say kosmplay

Does the MLGS beams count as sorceries for ring buffs?

Is Friede resistant to dark or fire in her last phase?

>>163959310
WP can use the running attack and WA to bat away basically everything and the game

When you infuse it, it destroys turtles with Dark Damage while still being xboxhuge

>>163962636
>Which are finite like DeS grasses
Which you can also easily farm in the very beginning of the game. This is not a problem ever and becomes even less significant when you wreck Gascan already thus unlocking the second best vial farm method.
>atmosphere
Atmosphere has nothing to do with bonfire count. Yahar'gul's revisit completely breaks the difficulty of the level with a second, completely unnecessary lamp post yet it's one of the most atmospheric levels in the game. Same with Mensis and its retarded lamp post placement. Same with Lothric Castle or Irithyll.

>>163962905
Don't think so. I think it's treated as a weapon attack.

>>163947925
The lunge is really efficient at roll catching and pressuring

It's shit against shields though

>>163963131
She just has like the biggest amount of HP ever

Fuck Friede

>>163963540
>Fuck Friede
i wish

>>163963257
>atmosphere
I should've said tension.
>Irithyll
Remove Distant Manor and the start of Irithyll bonfires and the area is fine.

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>>163961223
Everytime

>>163962636
>which are finite like DeS grasses
But both are trivially easy to farm and then abuse

>>163963540
I may not bother beating her. I'm sick of spending so much time on such a tiny DLC

Is the fashion souls app for das2 dead? I am planning a new character for it on my phoneand i want to sample some fashion.

>>163962905
no, but it does count as magical damage for clutch ring

>>163962443
i cant beat him

I am trying to beat the king now

>>163963912
Stand between his back toes and alternate

Gowers ring will protect you against the fire if you fuck up on running away

>>163960737
Agreed. After Shadows of Yharnam, the mandatory bosses before Gehrman are
-Rom
-One Reborn
-Micolash
-Wet Nurse
All of these more or less suck, and the areas they're in don't make up for it. Cainhurst and Upper Cathedral Ward are good, but most won't find either on a blind playthrough.

BB would be below DaS3 if it wasn't for the Old Hunters.

waifuposting should be considered avatarfagging and be permanently banned from this website

>>163963585
>Remove Distant Manor
This will achieve absolutely nothing as there's no threatening enemies between Church of Yorshka and Dungeon bonfire or entrance to the sewers.

Actually, probably the only big change to bonfire placement in 3 i would do is removing all bonfires in entire farron swamp area past halfway fortress. On top of that i would allow watchdogs to be summoned into the lower swamp because fuck you.

>>163963667
They're less "abusable" than Dark Souls estus which gives you infinite retries without having to go farming and unlike DeS the stack size is limited.

Still, I think DaS3 and BB are almost tied between which game has the best health system.

>>163963747
Just summon Gael.

>>163964365
>Just summon Gael.
Hell no. I'm not using a summon.

>>163964263
Old Hunters has its own share of problems they fixed in AoA, honestly. Mostly the way they lock majority of fun equipment in TOH behind bosses. Bloodletter and Kos Parasite are the worst fucking offenders though the fact i can't really make a full playthrough with something like Church Pick because it's locked after Ludwig is infuriating as well.

In AoA i can get like 90% of equipment just after reaching the CotD. This may seem insignificant, but after replaying BB not a long time ago this was a major source of irritation for me, especially because how sparse the upgrade mats in BB are, forcing you to specialize in one weapon till you can buy them.

>>163964750
You're not wrong. I found it really challenging to rush weapons like the bloodletter though, long past the point when BB should be challenging without gimping myself.

>>163964750
You can only kill 4 bosses for the pick.

Would BB have more online longevity if trading was a feature?

PLEASE
HELP ME

>>163964965
Killing Ludwig on low levels is boring as fuck. This battle really should be experienced at least on BL60-70 with decently upgraded weapons, below that it's a fucking autism zone where you hit like wet paper even with serrated weapons and BBP.

I feel like DaS1 is more comfortable to play through because when you know what you're doing it's a cakewalk. Same with BB, or DaS2.

In DaS3 even when I put stats in the right places I have trouble with some late game bosses, which starts getting old pretty quick.

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>>163965205
It may just be me, but it feels like Dark Souls 3 enemies hit like 3x harder than the other games.

>>163965205
One thing I really like about DaS3 is it's the only game in the series out of the 4/5 that I've played that contains no areas that I despise going through.

Although maybe this can be attributed to the fact that there are a lot of super short zones in DaS3

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>>163964995
BB is too fucked for its online to have any longevity, unfortunately.
I'm telling you this as someone who invaded the fuck out of the game and enjoyed it a lot.

>>163965512

Call From Beyond is the best spell ever.

>>163965496
The only really short area imo is Catacombs and even that might take some time your first time through.

At obscenely high soul levels in DaS2, will I get better mileage out of sorcery or miracles/hexes?

>>163965496
The way to Farron gets pretty bad. I don't like going through Irrithyl Dungeon anymore. I hate a lot of the early game bosses. I'm also just getting tired of the Souls formula.

>>163965973
The noose gets way more viable at higher Soul Memory

>>163964750
Well, you can get to the Old Hunters in two bosses.
From there, the cutter, saif, gatling gun, amy arm, and if you're brave the bowblade can be reached without killing any bosses. So there's at least a few early on.
But if the point is getting the bloodletter and kos parasite, then yes those take fucking forever.
There's always been weapons that take way too long to get in these games (I made the mistake of a Great Lord Greatsword character offline once), but I think it feels way worse in Bloodborne on account of there being far fewer weapons, and each of them being unique enough to want to make a build for.
The inability to drop weapons/items just makes it even more tedious.

>>163965051
DEMON'S SOUL ?

Fuck. I don't know what to do now. It's Dark Souls time, but since I finally beat DS1 this morning, I don't know if I should do NG+, try my noob sorcerer in a new playthrough, or movie on to DS2 or DS3!

Worst bosses:
1) Nashandra
2) Bed of Chaos
3) Royal Rat Authority
4) One Reborn
5) Vendrick
6) Curse Rotted Greatwood
7) Leechmonger
8) Ancient Dragon
9) Wolnir
10) Prowling Magus

Any DSCM users here? I'm trying to co-op DaS1 with a buddy. We've got each others Steam64 IDs, we see the summon signs instantly, but it's "summon failed" 90% of the time. Whether or not it connects seems to be completely random.

>>163965973
I believe Crystal Soul Spear is the most effective spell in the game at stupidly high levels.

>>163964750
>i can't really make a full playthrough with something like Church Pick
Why does everyone ignore NG+. That's where the real game starts. NG is just for gathering equipment and setting yourself up.

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>>163966183
The thing that makes bloodletter and parasite's late acquisition extremely annoying is the fact they are super niche weapons. There's no other dedicated native pure arc or str/blt right hand weapons. So for 90% of the game my STR/BLT was a simple shitty STR barely able to shoot for any good damage. Same shit with chikage, really, though ability to kill Simon for bowblade early is nice.

At least Miyazaki learned something in DS3, especially with AoA. You can get onyx blade or quills in like a hour after starting the game, and without needing to kill boss designed for endgame.

>>163966525
>Why does everyone ignore NG+
BB's NG+ is ridiculously pointless. It only gives 2 blood rocks for fuck's sake, virtually nothing else of value and it's easier to grind those rocks in chalice dungeons. It's also way easier than actual ng progression and doesn't have the same feeling of building your character.

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>>163966779
It also unlocks items for chalices

>>163966836
Literally just stand behind him and sometimes roll

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Its time to get edgy

>>163966992
You can go further.

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>>163966860
By the time you get to ng+ those materials not needed anymore because you can already ride on pwmf22gu day and night for all your needs.

>>163966779
>doesn't have the same feeling of building your character
True, but there are a lot of builds in BB that are shit until a certain point. Being able to start the game with every option available is more fun than having to get through 60% of the game with a Saw Spear before your build even starts. Plus you can't use the Burial Blade in NG, and the Burial Blade is fucking amazing.

I'm up to about NG+10 on one character because I don't give a fuck about PVP and the early game is so much goddamn fun to replay.

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>>163966992
pffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffft

>>163966525
>Why does everyone ignore NG+.
Because those are shit in these games. Now if they learned something from DaS2 and changed shit like higher item tiers it would be different.

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How do we stop the Eternal Serpent and make Humanity Great Again, /dsg/?

I for one hate NG is the souls series. Especially the fact you have to play trough the game three times to get the best rings. Why can't I just upgrade them? This makes me angry.

>invading in das2
https://youtu.be/lJBmEP4mv14

>>163967543
This is only the case in the shitty games though.

>>163967543
You only had two in Das 3.you can at least buff bonfires for them in Dark Souls 2

>>163965973
Hexes, Mostly because you can utilize climax and dark orb to their fullest. Hexes will also give you the versaility to use other buffs like great magic shield and great magic barrier.

>>163966618
I mean, I think I get the idea they had, putting the most unique weapons in the most challenging places to make it feel like an achievement to finally get them, but it really just makes it hell to make a character that's actually intended to use them.
I had a bloodletter character too, I know how shitty it was.
The choice to have one huge, sprawling level instead of a series of levels that you complete in order made rushing weapons a million times more bearable, yeah.
Unless you want Freide's Scythe, but even then your secondary weapon choices weren't as limited as they were in Bloodborne.

>>163967550
Dunno how people actually feel safe doing that. Even in pve I can't stand the feeling of shield tanking stuff and just don't even use them in both DaS2 and 3.

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>>163967410
Changing shit doesn't really guarantees good ng+ experience. I would rather kill myself than go through DS2 after a single playthrough, by the end of it i usually hate my character and game itself more than ever.

Now DS3 is really enjoyable to ng+ in for me. You actually get important finite resources (slabs, siegbrau, blessings, infusion mats if you're lazy), you reset Rosaria, you open up some new possibilities for level exploration (cat ring in Settlement or CotD), you can do dried finger run which nearly guarantees at least one invader in your world in each area which is fun as fuck. It's the only Fromsoft game where i actually bothered going to ng+7 with multiple characters and i got a whole fuckload of weird and fun situations out of it.

>>163967773
I agree. Especially with how shitty shields became after das1.

>>163966349
NG+ is not really worth it in DS1.

Do DS1's DLC if you haven't yet. It would be fun to re-do DS1 using a different set of weapons, strength vs dex vs magic vs faith and such, it changes gameplay a lot.

But if you've done DS1's DLC, then go on to DS2. Just understand that the game is -very- different and will require learning some new things.

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>>163966349
start invading ds1

join me in making life miserable for these fags

>>163967983
Shields are pretty broken in 1 and 2's PvP.

>>163967640
>DaS1 has you go through multiple NG's as a mage
The shittiest game of them all;^)

Ugliest or most obnoxious view models
1) Smelter Hammer
2) Dragon Greatsword
3) King's Ultra Greatsword
4) Dragon King Greataxe
5) Greatsword of the Forlorn
6) Server
7) Northern Regalia
8) Old Knight Pike
9) Drake Sword
10) DaS3 Morion Blade

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>connection fix in DS1 allows me to reliably force low-level griefers to invade the world of my SL250 forest crystal weapons giantmom

>>163968219
das1 online is beyond post-dead

might as well CE max level

>>163968137
Shields are more of a liability in DS2 than not because of shield break ripostes.

>>163968034
Kek

My favorite thing to do is invade people, hit them with the dark hand's grab attack, run away, and then dark crystal out with all their humanity

>>163968174
>King's Ultra Greatsword

That one sure was weird. Every other bit of Vendrick's equipment is super sleek and looks awesome, but then there's this huge fuck you slab of stone

>>163968219
is this furry porn

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>>163968284
DS1's online is more than alive thanks to connection fix. I invade faster than i did in 2013 because ip pool actually fucking works as intended.

>>163967835
>Changing shit doesn't really guarantees good ng+ experience.
Just as having Miyazaki direct doesn't guarantee a good game, see DaS3 or BB.
Now kill yourself fuckboi.

>>163968297
You just need to use them properly. Full elemental resist ones help a lot, as do turtling ones.

>>163968297
A good DS2 turtle will never allow himself to get guard broken.

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>>163967497

>>163967835
>I would rather kill myself than go through DS2 after a single playthrough, by the end of it i usually hate my character and game itself more than ever.
But it has the best NG+ experience by far. Though yeah if you hate the base game it won't fix that.

>>163968468
Hey, why all DS2 fans are this assblasted? Do you have some enormous inferiority complex or people just bully you too much?

>>163968590
Then there are a lot of shitty turtles in Das2

Most Esthetic
1) Bewitched Alonne Sword
2) Kilij
3) BB Holy Moonlight Sword
4) Blueblood Sword
5) Dragonslayer Swordspear
6) Repeating Pistol
7) Lost Sinner Sword
8) Great Mace
9) Boom Hammer
10) Yorgh's Spear

Playing sotfs for the first time, now on eleum loyce. What soul bracket are people playing on for the most part? It's been such an empty journey.

>>163968462
>>163968284

DS1 went from "completely dead" to "playable". It's not active but at least the multiplayer isn't nonexistent.

>>163968590
There's no reason to ever put points in vigor because a good player will never allow himself to be hit, yet people still do it.

>>163968792
Your soul memory probably balled out of control and now you're playing is pseudo offline mode.

Or maybe you got softbanned

>>163968721
Best NG+ experience doesn't mean shit when playing the game itself is like trying to eat a broken glass.

>>163968875
I'm at 3 million soul memory and I have never done anything to get softbanned. What are the pvp spots and at what soul memory bracket?

>>163968642
>good human! Enter the way fo white and serve the gods! They are the benevolen shepherd and you their sheep! RRRROOOOARRGH
kys

>>163967410
NG+ existing is a great way to gey SOME fucking usage out of your super powerful gear.

I hate it in games where you get a really fun weapon at the lategame and don't get chances to really utilize them.

>>163968792
For summoning or invading: 6m to 2m after drangleic castle, 100k to 500k before drangleic.

For putting down red signs, 3m, softcap at 5m, hardcap at 9m

For picking up red signs, 5m, softcap at 20m, hardcap at 45m

>>163968468
>DaS3 or BB
>or BB

lmao

>>163968924
DS2 killed my father and raped my mother.

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>>163968837
This is one really retarded analogue simply because the only 100% guard break is an immensely telegraphed bitch slap which is easy as fuck to just r1r1 punish.

>>163968792
I think most people hit the DLC at about 1.5 to 2.5 million depending on how many times they died, or how many side bosses they did before hand I would imagine it's probably somewhere between like tier 28 and 32, if I am remembering my values correctly.

Personally I usually agape at tier 31-36

>>163969124
>he lets himself get hit
I'm laffin

>>163969123
No, it's just a bad game.

>>163968924
>like trying to eat a broken glass

have you ever played an actually bad game?

>DS2 STOLE MY WIFE AND MOLESTED MY KIDS
>IT GAVE ME CANCER AND BLEW UP MY HOUSE
>WAAAH WAAAH WAAAH

I can't imagine how bad you would feel if you played an actual 2/10 game.

>>163969112
I see you really enjoyed those chalice dungeons. Let it Die might be something for you m8.
lol

Why can't they just patch out Soul Memory?

>>163969294
Or even a mediocre one like a recent Bethesda title.

>>163969086
*600k to 2m after drangleic castle

>>163968721
Changing things in NG+ doesn't really add to the game. Just look at how many people actually go to NG+ instead of just using ascetics where they need.

The truth is, they don't need to add anything to NG+, as long as the game itself was interesting to play through once, people will do it again.

>>163969294
>have you ever played an actually bad game?
Yes, i did. Some of other bad games are made by fromsoft as well. And you know what, one of the most notably bad games they ever did also shares the director with DS2! It was so bad they never bothered to release it on West.

>>163969337
They had great bosses, although they certainly could be executed better. It doesn't make the game any less than outstanding. Let me guess, you're one of those salty poorfags who can only own a single gaming platform, right?

1) Demon's 3-1
2) Ash Lake
3) Fishing Hamlet
4) Upper Cathedral Ward
5) Shulva
6) DaS2 Foggy Woods with Spooky Phantoms
7) Central Yharnam
8) Demon's 5-2
9) Cathedral of the Deep
10) Undead Parish

>>163969412
SM is so sad because das2 had so many options for a 100-125 meta. The spell spices would have prevented magic from being obsolete at such a low level.

>>163969449
>instead of just using ascetics where they need.
That's basically the same thing in DS2.

>The truth is, they don't need to add anything to NG+, as long as the game itself was interesting to play through once, people will do it again.
They don't HAVE to but it increases the attractiveness of another playthrough with the same character. But in essence you're right yes.

>>163969412
Probably because it was extremely ingrained in the online connectivity. Plus it's not often that devs would admit to being wrong with something like that and actually changing it

>>163969294
A hastily scrapped together bunch of unfinished assets is a bad game indeed, anon. If Dragon Age 2 is considered a terrible game by majority of players, so is DS2.

>>163969631
I still think 150 is best meta but I can see your side too.

>>163968000
I did the expansion already. Maybe I'll enjoy more DS1 after I come back to it, and move on to DS2.

>>163968034
Nah, I enjoy helping people not bullying them, I'll stick with just Jolly Co-Op. Though I don't think I can help people a lot once I go NG+ I guess.

>>163969412
Because soul memory actually works at keeping invaders from being too powerful. everything in the game costs souls and leveling up isn't the best way to get powerful anymore, so why would they make it based on just SL? That just allows more twinking and unfair invasions.

You know what their response to 'fixing' soul memory was? Giving hosts advantages and letting them summon/resummon 2-3 white phantoms and blue phantoms. If you would rather play like that, go ahead, and play DS3 instead.

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>>163969876
>Giving hosts advantages and letting them summon/resummon 2-3 white phantoms and blue phantoms
That's literally the same in DS2.

>>163969787
DA2 is way worse than DS2. There is literally nothing good about any of it and I actually felt insulted while playing it. There's a difference between rough/obviously unfinished and "god damn train wreck".

>>163969876
>being so terrified of losing you have to sabotage the entire online experience for everyone
I can kinda see that group that hate everyone but DS1's point now

>>163969602
As much as I love Ash Lake, the level itself isn't that great seeing as it's more or less a short, straight line with one extremely small detour.
If this is purely visual design/AESTHETICS though, then never mind.
No Shrine of Storms though?

>>163969631
>>163969814

100-125 makes no sense in DS2 because of ADP and soft caps. SL150 DS2 = SL100 DS1.

>>163969947
In SotfS it was changed to only do its gay little setpiece thing after you light all the sconces in the area

>>163968837
>a good player will never allow himself to be hit
That's not true at all though; a good player will go for advantages trades if they have the health to afford it. Being able to win trades means you have an option your opponent doesn't. Stop using the phrase "a good player" until you are one. It's beyond easy to avoid guardbreaks in ds2.

>>163969963
Yeah but DS2 had a better balance since healing was more punishable and phantoms couldn't chug during an invasion. I'm ok with the odds being stacked in the host's favor a bit since the host is almost certainly a worse player and not prepared for an invasion, it's DS3 that takes it too far.

>>163969987
Ash lake is a good example of atmosphere making up for a very shitty level. It's almost just a straight line and if you got rid of the music it would be one of the lamest areas in the game

>>163970106
>That's not true at all though; a good player will go for advantages trades if they have the health to afford it.
having to rely on trades is a crutch and artificial goodness

>>163970134
Phantoms don't need to chug in DS2 to be overpowered. They can just cover each other's asses or simply cast warmth and turtle on that spot, r1 mashing you out. In fact, i consider it to be way more broken system than anything in DS3 invasions.

Fuck DS2 for introducing 3 phantom limit also.

>>163969963
Oh, I guess all the webms and videos of DS3 invaders getting

DS2 only has white phantoms when it's a 1 out of 100 gank squad, otherwise it's always a 1v1. If you invade anywhere outside of a dedicated PvP area, you won't encounter white phantoms. If you invade in a PvP area, you only encounter phantoms if they are fishing for invaders. Just black crystal out.

DS2 is built around consensual invasions DS3 gave you guys nonconsensual invasions again but just make them insanely unfair.

I think both work, just for different reasons. If I'm invading, I'm playing DS3. If I want to actually fight people and experiment/tweak, DS2. If I want a nostalgia trip, DS1.

>>163963747
>complains about dlc taking too much time
>complains about dlc being tiny

How the fuck to I even get past the pillars to break to kill Dragon God
He always one shot me before I can break the second pillar

What's a nice spellsword build for SoTFS level 185~200?

>>163969987
I actually meant 4-2 instead of 5-2

>>163969664
Ascetics actually just showed that no one truly likes to replay their games fully, which is why I think putting anything exclusive to NG+ (except multiple copies of one time weapons, I guess) actually harms the game.
What should be the only NG+ change would be to allow players to skip areas, like master key or the SM gate do.

>>163970260
This is one of those posts that makes me wonder if the people that hate literally everything about DAS2 even played it

What's the earliest INT-scaling weapon one can get in DS1?

>>163970264
>DS2 only has white phantoms when it's a 1 out of 100 gank squad
I did my last playthrough of ds2 two weeks ago and 70% of hosts either had real player helpers or, which is worse, those overpowered NPC that hit like a fucking truck and have 10k HP.
Nothing in DS3 is this infuriating.

>>163969971
>7/10 game vs 8/10 game
>trainwreck

stop memeing. Just because you don't like DS2 doesn't make it a trainwreck.

Honestly every souls game is a development/coding/multiplayer trainwreck compared to any other AAA game. DS2 just tried something different and that pissed off fans. Just like every from soft game that tries something different and pisses off fans.

>>163970414
Wasn't like that for me a couple months ago. I'd occasionally run into the NPC phantoms in sme places but they were pretty easy to avoid because they're stupid.

>>163970380
Played it more than you, buddy. Invaded everywhere, at all SM tiers. I saw such depth of cowardice in DS2 i can't imagine even in DS3.

>>163969449
bullshit

>>163970257
>having to rely on trades is a crutch and artificial goodness
having to rely on iframes is a crutch and artificial goodness
using anything other than the broken straight sword is a crutch and artificial goodness

You can try to keep this up all you like anon, but the fact of the matter is that you have to call things "fake good" and expect people not to play them since DS2s weapon balance goes to shit the instant anyone who's playing to win touches it. We're talking about the actual meta, not all of those indie "banned: (you)" fightclubs where everyone gimps themselves to make the game look better.

>>163970264
How are Dark Souls 2 invasions any more consensual the Dark Souls 3? You can only be invaded when embered in 3, similar to das1

In Dark Souls 2 you can be invaded anytime unless you burn an effigy which no one did.

>>163970420
>stop memeing. Just because you don't like DS2 doesn't make it a trainwreck.
I was calling Dragon Age 2 a trainwreck. I like DS2.

>>163970538
Well I played it in beta and invaded B-team faggot

>>163970260
>playing well means that DS2 phantoms are more overpowered than DS3 phantoms

So in other words, you're just saying that DS2 players are better, because they can strategize and use teamwork and that makes invasions less 'fair' than DS3?

Are the White Hair Talisman, Crystal Chime, and the other Hybrid Int/Fai/Pyro etc. catalysts worth it?

Is there a chance that more luck-based weapons will get added in the DLC?

>>163970557
>he has to use the meta to win
lmfao

>>163970765
>anyone who points out that the meta in 2 is terrible is just crutching!
>also, I have no rebuttal at all!
gg ez

Can anyone link me the retards guide to dark souls that all the complete fucktards use that tells them to get darksword for easymode so I can find them irl and fucking assassinate them out from this earth

Worst Areas, Ignoring Bosses:
1) Lost Izalith
2) Memory of the Old Iron King
3) Black Gulch
4) Crystal Cave
5) Frigid Outskirts
6) Farron Swamp
7) Nightmare Frontier
8) Tomb of the Giants
9) Demon's 2-2
10) Demon's 5-1

>>163970260
>Fuck DS2 for introducing the 3 phantom limit
Actually Demon's Souls did that.
DaS1 was the odd one out that didn't have capacity for 3 co-op phantoms but pcucks only played the non-exclusives :^)

>>163970640
Dark Souls 2 invasions have to rely on red sign soapstone or arenas. There's no full eye orb, so for every non-consensual invasion there are at least 1 successful consensual invasion.

Having varying progression paths also means that player's are distributed wider SM wise in early game, so there are no obvious, dedicated areas where players can't "avoid" being invaded.

Arguably the only reason DS2 invasions might be less consensual is because staying hollow has more of a penalty.

Also, cracked eye orb has a very narrow range, mostly upward.

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In sotfs, can i use CE to change pretty much anything (as long as its not impossible to get in game and i do it offline) and not get softbanned?

Also, will the recolored weapons get me softbanned? I want a golden greataxe.

>>163970640
>In Dark Souls 2 you can be invaded anytime unless you burn an effigy which no one did.
It's pretty rare to be invaded while hollow though, especially these days. Also SOTFS gives you an auto effigy burn after killing a boss.

>>163970692
>strategize and use teamwork
"Sticking together and protecting butt buddies" is the most obvious retard tactic possible, anon.

>>163970913

Seriously why even play this game if you're just going to look up the guide for most op ez wepon to kill da bosses wit

>>163970943
Replace Farron Swamp with Smouldering lake.

And Tomb of yhe Giants is a legit good level.

>>163971050
But in Das 2 you can still get invaded while hollow unless you burn an effegy

>>163970906
>he has to use acronyms to reply to a post
lol

>>163970943
Literally just went through frigid outskirts for the first time ever and it was fun as fuck. The double horses were kinda bullshit but it's ok.

>>163970943
The great hollow should be in the top 3, possibly even worse than Izalith if not for the fact it is a totally optional area

>>163971194
Some people are so afraid of losing at anything that they can no longer have fun. They're sick, lonely people.

>>163970257
>>163970765
>"Guys dark souls II has no gay porn in it whatsoever, it's tottaly homo free, trust me!"
> anon looks inside the game
>"but anon, this game is clearly filled with gay porn, you can see it right here"
>"HAHA WOW WHAT A FAG WHY WOULD YOU LOOK AT THAT, ONLY A FAG WOULD THINK THERE'S GAY PORN HERE, YOU'RE A FAG FOR IDENTIFYING THAT THE THING I DEEPLY ENJOY IS FULL OF GAY PORN"

You're litteraly "lalala-I can't hear you!-lalala": the poster

>>163971256
The chance to get invaded in DS2 is impossibly small and gets smaller with each passing day.

>>163971110
No. You will get soft banned for any change that affects your save file. This includes names, covenants, which bonfires are unlocked, item spawning, etc.

If you spawn items, you will be softbanned once you log back in. It might take a while (up to 2 weeks) for it to detect it, but it will happen.

I think if you want a golden greataxe you have to have someone else spawn in on a character, then drop it to you, and then they have to use family share on that account to avoid the softban that they would get for spawning the item.

What you -can- do however are non-permanent cheats in offline mode, anything that doesn't affect the save file.

Obviously you can do whatever you want and might not get banned, but any changes to the save file is likely to cause a ban.

>>163971202
Farron Swamp still deserves to be on there, although Smoldering Lake is also terrible.

>>163971284
It's neat and pretty original, but it got horribly tiresome.

>>163971290
You're right.

>dastards are so hardcore about hating DaS2 that they don't want extended NG+s to challenge their builds and skill

>>163971158
Yeah, and you can do it in both DS2 and DS3.

How does that make DS2 invasions more unfair?

Does that tool where you could preview DaS2 gear on 3D model still exist? Did it have the option to change the character physique as well?

>>163971492
Jesus I wanted to see how far I could take it before you'd realize I was just memeing and meant absolutely nothing I said but this is just sad. What kind of thread is this where my posts could so easily be taken seriously?

>>163971537
So basically most of the harmless cheat engine stuff you would do to get a PVP character up fast or change my character appearances like haircolor gets you banned we're like the temporary infinite HP and faster projectile speed/spam and shit doesnt.

Great.

>>163971492
isn't it usually:

>"Guys, DS2 is full of gay porn, it's a shit game."
>anon looks inside the game
>"But anon, there is no gay porn here."
>"HAHA WOW WHAT A FAG WHY WOULD YOU LOOK AT THAT, ONLY A FAG WOULD THINK THERE'S GAY PORN HERE, YOU'RE A FAG FOR IDENTIFYING THAT THE THING I DEEPLY HATE HAS NO GAY PORN"

>>163971663
>ds2tards would rather have parts of the game locked behind ng cycles because they're autistic enough to like doing the same thing over and over again

>>163971810
>dstards play video games like children

>>163971810
>what is a bonfire aesthetic

>>163971805
>uhhh well uhhh I know what you are but what am I!
nope

and you didn't even do it right

>>163971537
I've done lots of item spawning and covenant rank edits for a long time and still don't appear to be soft banned

>>163971810
>doesn't even know that DaS2 had all items available in NG thanks to ascetics while DaS1 and DaS3 actually had items locked away
Bravo.

>>163971948
Bonfire ascetics are a good change. NG+ exclusive things are not.
Would you actually play 2's NG+ fully? Every single area where something changed?

I'm level 55, using a Raw Astora Sword+4. Is there anything better or am I good with this sword still? (229 physical)

DS3

>>163971948
an item that requires you to play through an area before use, and upon use lets you replay the area

so basically what I just said, retard

>>163972049
It still requires you to play through the area anyway

>>163971663
The NG+ changes in DS2 were pretty cool, especially the black phantoms, but I didn't see much of them because after I built my character I pvp'd with it or made another, I didn't keep playing through the game.

That and the game was shit and willfully exposing myself to more of it would have led the white coats to come take me away.

>>163972049
>500 wins for GCFB/150 for WotG

>>163971801
If you want to get a PvP character up to level fast:

>burn bonfire ascetics at FFG Cardinal Tower bonfire to farm 3 titanite chunks
>use tseldora set and CSSR
>get to ~2m SM, back up your save, equip agape ring, open shrine of winter and start collecting all the goodies around the game and DLC.
>farm upgrade equipment with bonfire ascetics at dragon aerie. Same with Soul of a Great Hero, which you can use to raise your level on the PvP character after backing up the save.
>maybe create a 500k SM agape ring character for low level invasions, if that's your thing. Gonna a
>burn bonfire ascetics to farm spices from belfry sol
>have at least one soul vessel.

Do all that once and you never have to play through the main game ever again to make any PvP build you want.

>>163972098
>b-but
a few minutes vs having all your bonfires, keys and vendors stripped away

>>163972098
>replay the area

>>163972080
For the most part no, at least as far as stat efficiency goes. There are probably some things that are at least equally efficient though, but you won't be able to use them effectively until you invest a certain amount into attack stats.

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can't we just talk about ds3 and bb
ds2's rabid fanboys are ruining this general so fucking much

>>163972098
>It still requires you to play through the area anyway

Shortcuts remain open. So no. All it does is make the existing enemies stronger and respawn ones that you autistically killed 15-20 times already.

>>163972197
OH NO ACTUAL REWARDS FOR A WEEKEND OF PLAYING GUD

Best bow at 40 Dex in DaS1?

>>163972412
So? Still the same in practice. It's a means of repetition. The only advantage it offers is that you get to spend less time playing DS2. Unless you admit to enjoying being able to play less DS2 (because it's overall a shit game), you've got no reason to praise bonfire aesthetics.

>>163972418
>put what he said in greentext

>>163972197
Its more than 500 wins. Its 500 net wins.

>>163972632
composite bow, always