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/pso2g/ - Phantasy Star Online 2 General #1205

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Previous thread: >>163717963
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New shit 4 team when? We can rebuild it. We have the technology.
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second for RAPPIES
post rappies
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>alone forever
You're my only friend, pso2g.
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>>163901195
>We have to leave out Luther so he doesn't win male poll again
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why do so many people including sofa and the discucks have a hate boner for lilith and socks being in Night Arks?
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>>163903678
Someone already tried that and he was the only person in his own team for several months. It ain't happening. Now post Lisa. I just wanna fukin' kiss er' face.

>>163903758
You don't say post rappies and then post cropped pornography like that. Rappies are innocent and to even be mentioned along with that picture is blasphemy. So now you gotta post casts and caseals.

Preferably Lisa.
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>>163903759
You deserve to be alone, loser!
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>>163904051
i thought this was moonbase alpha
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>>163904051
I wonder what the Mother Cluster did with the bags of shit NASA left there
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>>163904101
aeiou
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>>163904101
ジョン・マッデン
ジョン・マッデン
ジョン・マッデン
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>>163903905
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>>163904113
Ate them for sustenance.
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this will be quna's year
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>>163904240
This kinda makes me want an Ionia variant without those ridiculous shoulders
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>>163903860
Sofa got rejected by NA.
No idea about socks, probably some erp drama considering the kind of people that come here.
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>>163904508
LMAO why did Sofa get rejected? Shit gear?
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>>163904508
how about lilith? I thought everyone in the EN community hated him or is it just the majority of people from the threads here including the avatarfags? there was that one time trannyguru tried shit on him parsing bad on magatsu in here before
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>>163904612
apparently he shittalked NA and afk'd whenever they did TD
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>>163904612
trash talking, afking in mpas
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>>163904612
Afk leeching in some eq, I think? It's in the NA sheet.
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>>163904508
sole reason he wants to get into any mpa is to parse others. no one wants to deal with that shit.
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>>163904429
The shoulders make the outfit, they're like spiked shoulder pads, perfect for gouging the enemy.
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serbers up
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>>163904641
Lilith only pissed kayleth and his shitposting circlejerk, since he took all of the thread's attention for himself and left the resident avatarfags behind.
Only sheep that can't think for themselves would hate someone based on angry shitposts made by attention thirsty shitposters.
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>>163905129
>left the resident avatarfags behind
what do you mean?
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>>163905129
>only
Nah I've seen them in game and I hate them from that experience
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>>163905046
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>>163905268
what did he do to you in game be a mute or something?
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>>163905254
In their twisted minds, this is a high school popularity contest, and the one with more (you)s win. Lilith got lots of (you)s.
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>>163905370
The exact opposite
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>>163903860
>>163904641
>>163905254
>>163905370
samefag stop talking about yourself you said you were gone lmao
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>>163905464
How the fuck was he able to amass that many (you)s?

>>163905601
>asking about lilith means your lilith samefagging

(you)
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Guys, how do I make faggots like Red and 40Columns leave the game?
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>>163905761
>red
redfox?
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>>163905728
By being smarter than the resident avatarfags.
Lilith is dumb as a door, so that tells how dumb the others are.
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>>163905275
stfu and do ur tacos slave
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>>163905835
going by the logic shouldn't it be the other way around? as in the residents outsmarting him
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>>163905981
Nope, he got the (you)s and left. The residents will still be butthurt in 2018.
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>>163906061
so that means he's not as dumb as the majority of this general paints him out to be then and that the only times he was an annoying fuck was in this general and anything pertaining to b31/47 like >>163905268
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>>163906185
He's dumb as fuck.
People that hate him for no real reason are just dumber.
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>>163906280
>people hating on a literal retard that can be ignored

no offense to the users who have common sense here but this will never not be funny as fuck. how can you guys deal with this kind of retardation
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Where can I see the previous years' character/enemy poll results?
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>>163906280
Didn't clover do the same thing too?
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>>163906778
wasn't clover rayles
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>>163906986
no
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Idk what you guys talking bout, but Luna is sweet
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>>163903905
And do you know the entire eason why? People were all MUH TREE and the thought of having to actually do team orders to raise a new one, which in turn required actually playing the game rather than just logging in for an eq, taking a tree boost, finishing said eq, and logging off offended them.
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>>163793268
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>>163904396
Quna and Katori have residual popularity and should rank okay. Got in the top 3 last time.
Matoi and Hitsugi, the latter that has had more scenes than probably almost every other character combined for this episode, are the characters to beat. I'm unsure of how most people feel about the MC hijack and if they're stupid enough to buy into all the uninteresting anime high school shit we were forced to sit through this episode.

Lisa will probably do fine as well due to getting a lot of cameo scenes and also ranking well last time despite not doing anything important along with most of the non-earth characters.

The male section is a lot more debatable.

Not sure how I feel about them not including the anime characters, on one hand I get to see them a lot less, and on the other we don't get to see them blown the fuck out into the bottom of the charts by the actual PSO2 characters/there's less characters to take up "trash slots."
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Downloading like 34,462 files cuz I haven't played in like 2 years. What have I missed?
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>>163907223
huey will win
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>>163907314
not shit. finally 14*s kek
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>>163907314
Two years worth of content which is far too much to explain

Basically though, Ultimate Quests, Challenge Quests, like 4 new raid bosses, and TD4
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just once i wish they would at least take their work seriously.
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>Voting
I don't think they will do well this year, but I will still give them all of my votes.

Guess I should be happy that they got any scenes at all with how many characters practically stopped existing this episode.
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>>163905275
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>>163907212
Go away. Don't you have more private conversations to share with your little circlejerk?
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>>163908689
>things that never happened
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>>163907785
they really want to cater to the lower common denominator audience
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>>163905728
bro you do what you want, but don't act like your typing mannerisms are that hard to detect though, I somehow think people are dumb enough to think that these posts aren't you, so I just have to say it for them.
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http://pso2.jp/players/event/newyear2017/charavote/

If you don't vote for Phul, you are a fool!
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>>163907178
I don't think anyone was offended, you just said the reason. They had a tree and didn't want to start from scratch. Pretty valid reason. It's not like anyone brand, spanking new would join it over any of the already established teams anyway.
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>>163910013
I don't even understand why she's in the contest.
She had like a total of 3 scenes and then died.
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This is what would happen if you somehow managed to make it popular:
>team magically becomes more popular than OH
>everyone from OH joins it and history repeats itself
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KAYLETH! PLEASE POST KAYLETH IN NUDE MOD SO I CAN FAP!
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>>163910013
I vote her and Xiera
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>>163910247
It's simple, just don't let kayleth in.
He's the one that caused drama in ship 2, he's the one causing drama in OH.
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>>163910247
Nobody has the balls to namedrop the people causing problems in OH so the situation will never be resolved.
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>>163910013
Something something ghost.
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What is Gunner damage like these days?
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>>163912109
slightly above average.
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>>163910013
Kohri/pacento here
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>>163910013
Don't forget you're not voting for the girl with the perkiest tits. You're voting for a set of equipment inspired by that NPC or enemy.
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>>163913165
gib more matoi stuffs
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>>163912006
>>163911914
There's no drama in OH, just complete disinterest
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>[pso2h] ./Plugins/PSO2TitleTranslator.dll is not a DLL, skipping
>[pso2h] ./Plugins/translator.dll is not a DLL, skipping
Fucking what?
Can someone explain what the fuck is going on here?
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>>163913165
Really want Mudder's outfit but that will probably come anyway
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>>163913298
>one dude asking team leader to kick red
>other dude shitalking about red because he joined him for EQ
>They all shittalk about him at the first opportunity
The team is shit because half of teams cry and wont join for anything because there that other guy who they hate.
Also there other people who in a team just for cucktree and don't give a shit about anything else.
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>>163914239
What did red do? Last time I played in OH he seemed to be one of the few active people.
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Reminder that katana is literal deadweight on mother and you should be ashamed of using it.
Su > Gu > Ra = Te > Fi = Hu > Bo = Fo >> Br
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>>163914548
Why is FO that low and how do FI stance work on mother?
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>>163914375
He blog post in team chat or something like that.
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>>163914647

The only stance you want on Fighter is Brave, and it works just fine as you're attacking from the front for the majority of the fight.

>>163914548

Fighter is right behind Summoner in damage. Gunner is middle of the pack, while Techer and Bouncer are just ahead of Gunner. In reality, it should be; Su > Fi > Bo = Te > Gu > Ra > Hu > Fo > Br
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>>163914239
He's one of the last remaining players who still treats OH like a community, tries to get people to join MPAs, talks in team chat and does quests with people. The day he gets kicked out of OH is the day me and my shitty clique leaves OH too.
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>le redownloading the game face
thanks
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>FOs not using Zan on mother
baka
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>>163914797
>treats OH like a community
You mean a dumping ground for everything he thinks?

>tries to get people to join MPAs
Yeah, but not going out of his way to.

>talks in team chat
See the first, he just dumps whatever comes to mind at the first moment he can.

>does quests with people
Yeah, by joining them uninvited.

You can get the fuck out of OH too.
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>>163914763
>Gunner is middle of the pack
Nah, it's actually one of the best classes for Mother. Big thing is that the damage done to Mother's core while she's down is way more important than the damage done to the arms.
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>>163914797

Red is the reason why Saw and a few others no longer log in as much.
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>>163914763
Can we at least agree on the extremes and the work the middle ground?
Su is the go-to class and katanas should be purged.
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>>163907405
>>163907223
Previous #1s usually drop out of the top 3, at least if they're even included in the next. There just isn't as much enthusiasm afterwards

Although Huey is a bit of an exception, he's usually #3, except for when he won two years ago
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>>163914763
It's okay you can admit you have no idea what is and is not good on Mother.
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>>163907906
They usually both end up in the top ten, although last year they slipped to 10th and 11th.

Obviously they're much stronger as a pair
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>>163915116

Once you do, sure. But it's pretty obvious that you're dogshit at this game while getting carried through the content. Please, just leave.
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>>163915438
Except that I parse every run I do and know that's not true at all. Force is up there in the top 3 for mother thanks to compound techs and talis
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>36% a run
nice
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them cutscenes sure are good for cool screenshots
haha yup
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>rideroid
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>>163915871
best part of the eq
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>>163877738
>shitting on Power and PP Save Bullet
>Moving Snipe
>11 points in RAtk Up when RA doesn't even have enough points to cap their good skills
Wow, you are fucking retarded.

>>163872116
Remove Poison Trap, get 1 in Stun Grenade and Upper Trap, rest is good. Can take 1 point out of Killing Bonus for Weak Hit Blast Bonus if you like but either works perfectly fine.
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When the fuck is she going to drop a unit
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>>163915937
omg. Please put kitty on a diet.
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>start eq 20 minutes late
>eq ends right as I 630
I'm done
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>>163916203
I already lost 5 phoTONs, what more do you want from me John. I'll be skin and bones at this rate.
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>>163915909
>18 minutes
AHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>163914942
Why would we?
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>>163916356
actually it was 14min run
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>>163915998
>Moving Snipe

There will be a lot of times where you will be moving and a lot of the times when you are solo, it's decent.

>shitting on Power and PP Save Bullet
I honestly don't know about this one. It honestly doesn't seem like it would be good and just feels like ship2 advice.
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>>163914942
gold ol' ragrants spam works just fine
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>>163916349
I weigh less on the moon, John. Now where's the lasagna?
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>>163916349
Did you lose it from the top or something? I remember you looking a lot cuter before. Your thighs and bum are just a little bit too big. I love your big fluffy kitty but she just needs a little more proportion?
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>>163916486
>-20% PP Cost
>It honestly doesn't seem like it would be good
Please, it basically gets you an extra PA every 5 actions while you have WB loaded, which is almost always unless you are fighting multiple bosses at once. It's really fucking good.
So is Killing Bonus by the way, it procs off of a lot of things you wouldn't expect it to. Hands during the Mother fight for example.
Moving Snipe is pretty garbage in my opinion, you only really do basic attacks while moving around so who the fuck cares. I'd much rather use those points to get more PP to spam more as soon as I have my Standing Snipe bonus again.
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>>163916669
>you only really do basic attacks

You don't use crafted parallel slider or the shotgun move? Do you just spam end attraction all day?
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>>163916765
As long as you start Parallel when Standing Snipe is active, you'll get the damage buff until you're finished.
Or that's how I understand it at least.
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>>163916765
When I have to move I usually just Dive Roll Attack to recover PP.
Parallel Slider still gets the Standing Snipe bonus if SS was active when you execute it anyways, but I haven't used it for anything but its iframes in a long time.
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>>163916765
>I don't know how standing snipe works
Sasuga non ship2
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>>163909062
Oh right. Because you never brag about who you erped with in Discord.
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>>163916765
do you even understand when the game checks for standing snipe
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>>163915998
>shitting on Power and PP Save Bullet
PP save bullet can be good but power bullet is fucking trash. It only stays active for 20(30?) seconds after loading the bullet and isn't close to a big enough damage boost to justify the points put into it
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>>163916992
>more things that never happened
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>>163916765
Maybe if you can't even remember the name of one of its PAs you shouldn't be talking about how to play a class.
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>>163917003
>>163916897
I don't have the ring, so I wouldn't know. Just stand still and you'll get it, right?
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>>163917205
>standing snipe ring
Now you're just being retarded.
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>>163916668
Not sure what crazy parallel timelime you went to John, but not much has changed topside besides breasts being SLIGHTLY below max on the vertical now. Hips got a bit bigger thanks to all the Christmas lasaga but body slider is less WIDE hence the weight loss, maybe you need to show me photos of this alternate version of me.
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>>163917192
You want that guy to muck up his build? Go right ahead.
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>>163917205
The game only checks if the standing snipe condition is met when you initiate the attack. It doesn't break during the attack even if it involves movement. Things like rodeo drive or parallel slider work perfectly fine with standing snipe.
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>>163917058
It's 30s, but yes, you mostly only take it to get to PP Save Bullet.
Even without that it'd still be a much better investment point for point than RAtk Up though, there is honestly no reason to ever put points into that on RA main.
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>>163917347
>It's 30s
That's what I thought, but when I checked on swiki there was a note saying that it was actually 20s now? I could have just been misreading it though.
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>>163917237
I wish I had saved them! Just a little off the hips I think would look nice. Just to make your booty and thighs a little less wide.
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>>163917279
Except that you are also giving very bad advice and obviously don't know how a lot of ranger mechanics work.
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>>163917773
I can see the validity of using that PP Save Bullet skill but it just seems like too big of a point investment and Killing Bonus doesn't seem that great when you can get your PP back through proper trap management.
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>>163918145
Yeah, stop trying to talk about ranger then.
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>>163918209
No
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>>163918145
>It just seems like too big of a point investment
>throws 11 points into RAtk Up
weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeew
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>>163918308
What is wrong with raw power?
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>>163918145
>>163916765
This must be someone falseflagging retardation.
It's a ploy from psow/reddit/discord to make people think the advice given here is from people that are totally clueless.
This person is faking retardation on purpose, nobody this clueless would give advice with a straight face.
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>lvl 80 next year
>no single mention of new skills/skill revamps or anything that alludes to it
ohh boy cant wait to spend those extra 5 points on figuratively nothing i want
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>>163918478
>psow/reddit/discord

No, I'm actually from here. Maybe you guys just give really poor advice.
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>>163918556
I SEE THROUGH YOUR LIES
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>>163918473
You realize that 5 points in Power Bullet is equivalent to 8 points of Shooting Up 1, right? The value is even better if you only take the 3 points in Power Bullet that you need to get to PP Save Bullet.
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>>163918583
I'm 100% serious. Maybe I was taught poorly as a joke.

>>163918604
That's only for 30 seconds of 90 seconds.
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>>163918674
STOP
LYING
YOU SCHEME HAVE BEEN REVEALED
NOBODY IS THIS BAD
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http://arks-layer.com/skillsim/skillcalc.php?11IAbxIobxIobxIobxIobxIobxIobxIobxIobxIo0jdodBIb000000000doIn0000000jebboIbIdboInIbcFfkkJhdxdo00000fdo0000000Io00000000ioIn00000000IbIo0000000jdoIb0000000lo000000j
speaking of RA trees heres what im planning, any opinions?
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>>163918492
If you played Fo/Te you would be really excited!
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>>163914797

Yeah, pretty much.

Veillantif's one of the last remaining players who still treats OH like a community, tries to get people to join MPAs, talks in team chat and does quests with people.
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>>163918726
Put the three points from dive roll advance in pp save bullet, get the point from moving snipe into massive bullet.
If you really need the dive roll advance just use the crutch ring instead.
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>>163918720
First Hit only works for solo shit. I still think PP Bullet Save is too big of an investment. You seem to have forgot a point in Stun grenade and Weak hit Blast. Why do you only have one point in moving snipe?
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>>163918674
>That's only for 30 seconds of 90 seconds.
Are you really that retarded or are you just trolling at this point?

You get 50 RAtk with 33% uptime for 1 point in Power Bullet, since you use WB on CD, which is something you most definitely do, you get 16.66 RAtk for that 1 skill point at all times. Meanwhile 1 point in Shooting Up 1 gets you 3 RAtk. 16.66 > 3. It's not hard.
You can even increase the value further by taking another Special Bullet skill like Panic Shot to ensure you always have the PP Reduction going, you know doubled the value of your Power Bullet points and increased the uptime to 66%.
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>>163918775
Yeah man gotta fill in photon flare a bit more across all 3 fo trees i have so exciting
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>>163918843
STOP TRYING TO GIVE ADVICE
YOU'RE AS GOOD AT RA AS YOU'RE AT QUOTING
GO BACK TO THE HOLE YOU CAME FROM
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>>163918838
ive heard that moving snipe helps trigger standing snipe faster, does that not work anymore?
which ring is the crutch ring?
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>>163918964
>moving snipe helps trigger standing snipe faster
Never heard of it. As far as I know the only way to trigger standing snipe faster is getting a better connection.
Use the slow dive roll ring if you're bad at dodging.
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>>163914239
Hue, am I the reason it fell apart?

>>163914710
I do talk too much sometimes but I wouldn't say it is blogging.

>>163914987
That's pretty funny. What a bunch of wimps.

>>163914959
I just want to try and socialize.
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>>163918964
That's bullshit.
To activate Standing Snipe the server has to realize you are standing still, you can force that by doing any action that locks you into place which can be useful if you have huge latency, once upon people used to use Crazy Swing for that but I'm not sure that's still ideal. Moving Snipe is a huge waste and does nothing to that effect.
They are probably talking about the Slow Dive Ring. It makes Dive Rolling super lenient, almost to the point of Mirage Dodge, but your damage is obviously going to suffer a tiny bit
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>>163918831
Too bad Star a shit
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>>163919031
>Hue, am I the reason it fell apart?
Not really, they would just shit talk about someone else if you wasn't in OH.
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>>163919441
What a nice group of people.
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>OH
>ship 4
Not even once.
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>Earthquake in tokyo
>Shitters complain about lag
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>>163919526
still better than ship2
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>>163919851
>ship2 is worst than what I've seen on ship4

I cannot fathom this.
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>tfw just hit 10k hours of playtime
Am I cool yet?
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>>163921117
damn, I'm only 4k. That's impressive.
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>>163920235
I can. All the OH stuff is a bit overblown, but ship2 awfulness was not as much.
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>>163921474

This is why I joined EDF
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>>163921474
Why is it that shit 4 always has to bring up great 2 whenever people talk about how awful they are? You can tell it's really bad if the only positive thing they can say is 'atleast we're better than ship 2 because I say so'.
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What's the easiest combination of boosts to have for Mother to give 25% collect file completion per kill?
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>>163921818
just go the extra mile and stack more shit and go for 33% per kill with the 100% RDR week
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>>163921818
with the current 100% boost you can easily get 25% with just a 250 +30 daily boost
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>>163921650
>ship 4 is great, those few cancers are isolated cases
>at least we are not like ship 2 where everyone is cancer, look at these few cases
Textbook example of out-group homogeneity.
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Daily reminder that Hunter is considered the best class in PSO2 by the Japanese community.
Daily reminder that Braver is dumpster tier damage and regularly kicked from parties or causes MPAs to disband.
Daily reminder that Fighter is the highest potential damage dealer.
Daily reminder that Force is still useless.
Daily reminder that Techer is a better Force.
Daily reminder that Bouncer is only good with Jet Boots and Dual Blades is for killing yourself.
Daily reminder that Summoner is the most worthless addition to this game, as far as classes are concerned.
Daily reminder that Ranger doesn't exist, just Weak Bullet.
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>>163918847
Power bullet is pretty crap, it's 30 seconds after you load the bullet, and you often load it in advance so you might not even get to take advantage of it. In addition, 4 bullets may last you more than 90 seconds
PP save bullet is ok if you don't have a lot of pp though I guess
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>>163922615
What's GU?
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>>163922652
It's the opposite. PP save bullet gets better the more PP you have since it increases your effective PP pool by 25% while not making it take longer to refill.
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>>163922726
Literally who?
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>>163922848
There are very few occasions where you would actually empty your entire PP bar if you have a decent amount, so you're missing the point
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>>163923197
It happens all the time in boss eqs, unless you're doing Br/Gu runs where you might aswell go afk after you shot the wb.
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>>163922652
If you still have WBs left after 90s you aren't playing optimally. You should be using WB on CD, anything else is a waste.
Also the PP Save is amazing, what the fuck are you talking about? PP is literally the only thing holding back your damage as main RA, you burn through it like a motherfucker. I have 192PP now and it's still nowhere even remotely enough.
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Should i accept an invite from a random team i've never heard of

I've been teamless for about a year now and honestly i dont even remember what its like being in one, since i've just been playing solo

Does the master get a notification if i leave?
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>>163923894
You should join a team just for the tree buffs.
You can pick up a +20% Atk, +10% Exp, or +10% Rare Drops Boost for free that lasts 2 hours if you visit your Team Room.
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Hey there, Team Leader of Decision (Ship 2) here. Could you all stop going to Block 47 and just idling there? Lately, the block has been filling up with our team for MPAs, but there's a chunk of you guys just idling and wasting space. It's not cool, okay?

Find somewhere else to idle, but 47 is our block. If you have a problem with this, look me up in-game and whine there. Later!
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>>163924695
Buy premium you cuck.
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>>163924695
shut up
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>>163924695
It's our turf now, kiddo. You got a problem with that?
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>>163924695
What a bitch.
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>>163924695
This is obviously somebody trying to frame and start drama with that team or person leading it.

Nice try, Shadow council. You are not as smart as you think you are.
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>>163924695
You and your team are gonna get DUNKED son. JUST YOU WAIT KIDDO. THIS IS OUR HOOD NOW BITCH.
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>>163924795
>>163924836
>>163924863
>>163925263

Got a problem? Message MiPHISTo in game or shut up. Decision owns Block 47 now, deal with it.
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>>163925781
>Give me attention!
>Make me relevant in front of all my friends pesohtwogee!

Fuck off cuck.
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>>163925781
And I bet as soon as I message this person that they are going to have no idea what is going on right?
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>>163901382
attitude nothing. three and a half years trying to snag an elder pain, even to just put it up in my room as a trophy, with no sucess has shown me that RNGesus has absolutely zero intention of being nice regardless of drop boosts.
or the months of spamming the fuck out of demise through various degrees of boost and never having an orbit unit drop and the only weapon that ever dropped wasn't even for a class I play. or the months spamming PD without seeing an invade unit drop, even after they added the option to make them into austere units, or any 13* weapons.

you want to play optimist, go ahead, but be ready for the crushing disappointment when RNGesus trolls the shit out of you.
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http://www.4gamer.net/games/120/G012075/20161219114/

Apparently Kimura doesn't think gunners need a buff.
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does anyone have the huge picture of all the threadposters/redroomers fails/etc.?

examples of things in it were solus dying cause turret fail on rodos, ignition td4 fail, boylover69 or whatever his name was
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>>163926640
Gunner is pretty good! Until you get hit...
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How long is the S Roll iFrame window on Gunner? It feels extremely tiny, or I'm just not good enough yet. I've been practicing on Ex Dragon and I'm getting slapped 2/3 times when I'm pretty sure I'm hitting the timing right.
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Meanwhile on ship 4...
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>>163916486
>There will be a lot of times where you will be moving
and none of those times are times sega wants rangers attacking. that 5% isn't even shit compared to standing snipe's 15%x15%, and if you're moving you're most likely not aiming and getting WHA, so unless you're using launcher you're doing jack shit for damage (and probably still are because of the lack of triggering standing snipe).

people need to learn to live with it that sega wants RA to be a turret even when they've made situations that are not conducive to being a turret.

SS and WHA are too big, and r-atk weapons that aren't bows have far too many shit modifiers when you can't get a weakpoint. rebalance fucking WHEN?!
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>>163927054
I unironically hate characters who wear bikinis outside of Coast because they think it looks attractive but it really doesn't and is just completely out of place
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>>163916765
>end attraction
>attraction
the PA is End Attract, anon. clean agrajag's self-aggrandizational jizz out of your eyes and ears.
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What's the best way to get an arm 12* unit
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>>163927252
I thought they wear it because the nude mod makes it invisible? Maybe I am wrong.
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>>163927404
That's even worse

The models in this game are pretty bad desu
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>>163927285
Forgive me
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>>163927054
block?
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>>163927321

Doing Ultimate Amdu gives you a 12* Gix Arm the first time.
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>>163927498
47 and they're still there.
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>>163903532
Is anyone able to play this on PS4? I am dying to play this but only have PS4, computer not powerful enough to run it.
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How do I update Arks Mod tool /pso2g/? I want to take creepshots asap. I got the pso2.mem, how do I look at the values in there?
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>>163927321
Get an S Rank on Ult Amduscia for the Gix Arm.
Coincidentally it's also the best 12* Arm Unit you can get.
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>>163926743
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>>163926640
kimura is a retard, news at 11!

this is the guy who thinks that slaving for months aiming at rare drops and not getting them before they become irrelevant is something people enjoy. this is the guy that made the vegas CFs such a pain in the ass with the illusia spawn rate and low gain %s because he was butthurt that people were finishing yamato CFs at a good rate, completely ignoring the fact that yamato was also being put up several times a day during boost week when it came out so OF FUCKING COURSE people were finishing quickly.

it's totally unsuprising for him to be behind GU's obnoxious waffling between "trash" and "god" depending on whether or not the raid of the moment is conducive to chain. I wish they'd fire him, but I have no expectation of them ever doing so because SEGA.
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>>163927770
Really? This is the cunt that made Vegas collection file so unbearable that I ended up not even bothering with it.
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>>163927770
This Kimura hate-viagra boner of yours has lasted for months now, I think it's past time to seek medical attention.
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>>163927939
That guy probably blames Kimura for Trump getting elected. He has no idea what he's talking about.

They changed RQs anyway and extended the Vegas files several times, so if you didn't complete them it's pretty much on you.
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>>163926640
>I I'd like to still fuck. There is nothing I can not do .... I will not do it (laugh)
oh kimura you so ecchi
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>>163927762
>>163927516
Thanks
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>>163927516
>First time

what did he mean by this
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did japanese moot remove (you)s?
all i get are the underlines being dotted now..
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>>163928670
Watch me crank that soulja boy then super man that hoe now watch me youuuuuuuuu!
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>>163928989
You're such a dork.
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>>163928989
lol
seriously though is this just something on my pc or did japanese moot fuck us
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>>163929576
check your 4chan x settings?
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>>163929749
i dont have that
this is what it looks like it just changed randomly today i did not do anything
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>>163927765
So many solus deaths, and this doesn't even have him dying to the tank.
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>>163929829
This was on by default for me, I'm sure even vanilla 4chan does it now.
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>>163930013
that's nothing

just the tip of the iceberg

>>163910415
delete this
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So what're the chances of Sega actually letting people know what's going on with the localization of the game in the coming year?
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>>163930650
hahahaha
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>>163930650
>localization of the game in the coming year
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>>163930650
I hope they don't. It will just be a waste of time now.
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>>163930816
As in a confirmation of cancellation
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>>163930650
it's time to let go
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>>163930392
Looks like you need to modfarm to fix your death ratio.
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>>163930650
http://www.pso2.com/us/

Why haven't they even taken down the site?
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>>163931075
i have classes from 8 AM to 5 PM the coming semester for about four days a week

you expect too much
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>>163931196
>it's been 4 years
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>>163931196
Wow, I forgot this exists.
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>>163928589
>>163927516
It's actually from getting a S-rank and it's a title
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>Forgot to bring 250%s to 2falz
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Does anyone want to do VHAQs, on Ship 2, before I kill myself.

Just curious.
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What are the best units for Fo/Te?
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>>163927573
Yes, there should be a guide on bumped.org I think
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>>163932856
Anything with t attack
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How much does the rare drop bonus5 timed ability increase rare drop rate by?
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>>163918964
>moving snipe helps trigger standing snipe faster
This was a thing for like 2 weeks after moving snipe was introduced. It's been gone for a long time.
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>>163934372
Lvl 5 by 5% verified via collection files
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>>163934372
Lv5 is 12% each, so 36% if you put it on all your units.
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>>163903758
Your wish is my command.
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>>163934985
>Talking out of your ass
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are form boots good? where do they sit compared to the other 13* boots?
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>>163932768
Ask in team chat.
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>Need Casino Coins for SG
>Want to do Black Nyack
>It's dead 90% of the time

I don't want to face the cheating rat by myself.
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>>163936597

Not in a team.
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>>163938016
Time to join one.
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>>163937432
But it's faster solo.
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>>163938198
True but I like seeing the plays people make.
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>>163924695
OOGA BOOGA BIX NOOD OUR NEIGHBORHOOD NOW WHITEY AND/OR YELLOWY
OOGA BOOGA KILL WHITEY AND YELLOWY
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>>163938198
Nyau is more likely to bust himself with more people
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>>163938998
But every game takes like 5 times as long, so while you on average might win more rounds you get less wins in total in the same time.
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Anyone know where I can get up to date character saves?
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>>163939360
>But every game takes like 5 times as long
Not really
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If my collect file sheet resets in the middle of an EQ time-wise do i still get the % for it?
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>>163939467
Every round takes at least an extra 10-15 seconds per player longer than if you are doing it solo.
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>>163934513
a shame really.

but that's how sega does things. if it benefits the players it has to be "fixed" quickly.
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>>163940472
To be honest that was a legitimate bug though. Standing snipe would activate the frame you stopped moving, which is kind of broken.
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>>163939660
Faster worst pay or longer better pay, pick a poison.
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Worth it?
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>>163941538
no
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>>163941538
The 125? Given how common SGs are nowadays, yeah imo
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So is there a summary for chapter 127-D or something? I'm curious what the details of Ithe were when it came to Sierra models and Xiao.
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someone please stop me
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>>163941538
No, you should be saving for the collection extensions.
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>>163940658
you mean "kind of made SS not be a ball and chain". it wasn't intended but it fixed one of the things that makes playing ranger a chore once you get out of the babby levels. but since one of sega's longstanding things is FUCK RANGERS, of course they "fixed" it.

>and then years later they made a misleading ring to show about SS kicking in that does literally nothing but display an effect that they could have just stapled onto the fucking skill if they wanted to be that fucking worthless

and sega doesn't like to admit they fucked up. just look at hunter gear boost and L/hunter gear save. both of these were made mostly to avoid just fucking fixing swordgear's gain/loss rates. they assist partizan and wired lance, but in the end it's sword that needed and benefits from them most.
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>>163941817
buy it via es for 70 medals.
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>>163941623
>>163941658
>>163942035
What about this then
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>>163942107
how
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>>163941710
look up kazanboshi on youtube, he's been subbing ep4. his translations are... well, they and the story patch are both pretty bad but you can get the gist of it.
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>>163942359
If you don't know don't bother.
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>>163936426
It's a utility weapon first and shouldn't be compared to high-tier general use ones like Astra. Has its uses for cleaning out low-HP content
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>>163942174
Definitely, get those 14*s.
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>>163942174
only if you are 150% sure you dont ever want anything from there for looks or whatnot.

placebo up is just that, but fashion is forever.
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>>163942174
Wow, I felt my blood pressure rise at looking at that. Don't you fucking dare.
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>>163942846
>placebo
This meme is literal cancer
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>>163942107
explain.
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>>163942497
Oh wow, that helps a lot! Greatly appreciate the tip!

Looks like I'll be watching stuff all new years night now. Thanks again!
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>>163942914
All the PSO stuff is just low res undetailed garbo anyway
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>>163939474
Anyone?
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>>163942107
>>163942516
you cant just say this then NOT explain
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>>163943174
Fuck you, I want the Hunewearl outfit.
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>>163943000
>>163943653
http://pso2.jp/es/players/news/?id=3337
you wont get them immediately, but you'll get them eventually.
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>>163943694
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>>163944227
>top line literally translates to "AC/iAC purchase campaign"
>buy AC and get a reward upon campaign completion
>you don't know what this is
Deleted your post out of shame, I see.
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>>163944047
You son of a whore. You wouldn't dare.
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>>163943963
wew, you're a bit slow in the head, aren't you?
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>>163926640
>"You need to git gud with Gunner"
>Absolute zenith of damage is mid-tier
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>3 Bonus keys today
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So just downloaded the tweaker, patches and all. EN patch, Large files, and Story patch all done, so why is everything still in moon? Some quests have English so that's fine but when it comes to items I get nothing but moon. Can anyone explain?
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>>163947869
Did you go into plugins and check item translations?
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>>163945254
You're actually wrong and gunner is fucking godlike in raid bosses if played well.
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Reminder that you should be ashamed of yourself if you are bringing a katana to the mother eq.
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>>163949489
you need some new bait senpai, this one is old.
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How do I get good at this game? I'd like to learn how to actually do silly things.
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>>163949489
I feel no shame
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>>163949489
But during cube phase i activate katana combat and save the whole mpa so why would i be ashamed
>>
>>163950209
Switch to keyboard+mouse if you aren't using it already, learn how to do all the different cancels for movement, and then just clock in the hours. Trying to optimize Time Attacks will help you get the fundamentals for playing and moving around properly too.
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This is why I can't get into a lower end block because you gay mofos have to idle and not play the game. Fuckin' make some room so I can do something you losers.
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>>163950396
>Time attack strats
>Useful in real EQs where you actually need to do good damage and not hit an enemy that dies in one hit

Yeah man, all that extreme dashing is gonna help you dps hard
>>
>>163950396
Any advice on teams or anything to move up in the world? Mine is pretty much dead as far as I know.
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>>163950710
Hate to break it to you but getting good at basic time attack strats will transfer over into skill in the rest of the game.
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>>163950710
Trying to do TAs optimally teaches you how to move properly which you can use absolutely everywhere in the game. There is a lot of depth to character movement that's not readily apparent by just playing normally and getting consistent enough at the harder cancels to use them in combat takes a lot of practice and muscle memory, TAs help with that quite a bit and give you an easy way to measure your improvements.
There is more to being good than just knowing boss patterns you know
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>>163950987
But its not necessary to bore yourself to death to get good at playing a low skill ceiling game like this

You can get good at the game by just playing the game and watching videos on the side to see how others play and making changes to your own play style when you can

And of course, even if you reach some amazing skill level, it means nothing if the other 11 people are awful
>>
>thinking there is an UP to the world in pso2
>acting like the little cancels really mean anything
if you want to "move up" you need to live in japan for starters.

i dont know why all you wannabe tryhards try so hard at trying hard when it does not even matter, like really. there is no point to it because to get to the level where where IS a point to it, just isnt gonna happen (doing the actual TA crap at their events IRL or some such)
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>>163951360
>low skill ceiling game like this
You're just wrong about that.
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>>163950987
Sorry to break it to you but there is not a single person here good at time attacks.
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>>163951504
>if you want to "move up" you need to live in japan for starters.
This is a myth. It helps but it isn't a major barrier unless you have an absolute shit connection.
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>>163951360
That's not what he wanted to know though. He asked how to best get good, this is a big part of how you get good.
I'm not saying everyone has to do it, but there's a pretty clear difference between the guys that just do their EQs, maybe look at some videos occasionally to see if there is a better way to deal with bosses, and the people that optimize their play from the ground up and thrive on doing things even just a little bit better and more optimally.

>>163951504
A lot of the TA records were actually held by English players last I checked.
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>>163951580
Noko and their tryhard group?
>>
is it really worth getting 2 extra of the same 13* to grind to 35? I'm not really interested in the factors but is the extra attack going to make any real difference?
>>
Who cares about time attacks, they aren't a good showcase of anything and you have to be easily impressed to think they're anything special.
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>>163952009
Nah.
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>>163951768
>invalid since shitlith is in that team
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>>163952054
>Trying to validate wasting all of that time on time attacks alone over and over for 20 second faster EQs

Gettin real desperate here TA-kun
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>>163952069
But they're the only night arks in that group, the rest are sees
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>>163952009
>I could do it if I wanted to :)
lmao
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>>163952054
Wow, "Nah" you really convinced me otherwise dude you're the man! You've done it! This guy's a God at TA's man I'm so impressed now lamo
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>>163952530
ignore them. they're just one of the discucks that has a hateboner for lilith and the fact he joined night arks
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>>163950987
doing TA's will only get you gud at TA's. you are deluded wannbe tryhard underage if you think otherwise.
>>163951140
the hell do you even mean by movement? canceling your shit? there isn't any depth here at all. and you better play ultimate solo if wanna practice dodging mobs. do you niggas even played devil may cry? a game where combat has actual real depth and not some meme tier baby mode pisso2 combat.
>>163952009
exactly. beating a good time even require you to make a special snowflake skill tree that you'll never use outside of ta. being good at ta =/= being good everywhere
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>>163951631
i'm talking about making something of the TA records, holding them does not really mean shit.
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>>163953095
Record some footage of you doing whatever if you are so good, I guarantee you I can point out a dozen things you could do better movement wise.
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You guys rated the Mother weapons a 1 in the survey right

because they look like garbage
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>>163953095
>beating a good time even require you to make a special snowflake skill tree that you'll never use outside of ta
I use exactly the same tree I use in TA pretty much everywhere else.
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>>163953104
I'm confused, what do you mean by this?
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>>163953406
"This movie is awful dude."
"Yeah, well why don't you direct a movie if you think you're so good."

You're going to say this is a bad analogy, but this is exactly you. It's like people aren't allowed to criticize based off of know how and experience.

>>163953447
A lot of people have trees DEDICATED to TAs to get quick solo times.
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>>163953420
I gave them a 5. The cube effect is fantastic.
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>>163953420
They look better than gix and are recolourable.
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>>163953621
Except you are the one making a retarded claim and I'm asking you to back it up.
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Ride HemorRhoid
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>>163953659
The cube effect is nice yes, but compared to Austere/Orbit/Ray/Ares they look really tacky
>>163953661
Being better than Gyx doesnt take much
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>>163955028
mpa oh nice
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>no 2nd cube attack
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>>163953420
Not all of them. Dual blades look great
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>>163953827
I wasn't even the same guy you were replying to retard. What claim are you even referring to for him? Doesn't matter, TA's are all about damage. Who cares to watch that?
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WELL?

AM I GOOD?
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>>163951580
Neek?
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>>163956909
Why are FOs such leeches?
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>>163956909
>still using parser when sega told you to hang yourself
yare yare daze
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>>163956909
>separate zanverse

nope
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>>163924695
47 was ours long before you faggots started shitting up the place. gtfo.
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>>163956909
Considering how you had to down Mother at least twice for each arm phase in order to get that long of a time, not really no.
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>>163957018
Time attacks are SHITTTT. No one CARRRESSS about time atttaacckkss. You wanna impress me you need to play a different GAMEEE
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>>163956909
>DB Snatch Step
>38000

huh
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>>163927765
zext is so gay
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>>163957364
Yes, it hits fucking hard unlike the normal snatch step, and I guess it's the top hit because BO's PAs are multi-hit rather than big single attacks
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>>163956909
>having your name highlighted
>namefagging
oh boy
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>>163956909
if this is SEES than this parse looks pretty bad
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>>163957645
SEES didn't MPA this Mother.
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>>163957645
ebin name drop desu famalam ayy lmao shucky ducky quack quack
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>>163957645
it's just a PUG
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>>163957364
db snatch step ring makes it really fucking strong.
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>>163957883
YOU'RE JUST A PUG
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>>163956909
How much is that in DPS?
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What rings should I use as RA/HU?
I heard about the Slow Roll Ring but I don't think I'd need that, what else is there? P Keeper RAtk?
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>>163957018
neek is dead
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>>163958351
29k, literally trash. Br does 37k lolololol
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>>163957205
>that "long" of a time
>still 4min faster than most pubbie runs
>even the best runs I've seen still need to down her multiple times for some phases because she sometimes pops back up nearly as fast as she went down
(you) faggots... have some very strange and unrealistic ideas.
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>>163958373
L/Non Weak bonus
R/PP Convert or Crit/Perfect
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>>163958687
You realize that's over 11 minutes for the on foot part only, right?
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>>163958687
My shitty 2nd pub run was 9:37 on the on-foot fight. 11:41 is a super long time for just phase 2.
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Someone reply to this post please.
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I could use a hand with this. I tried fixing this on my laptop, and now its happening on my desktop.
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I DIDN:T

HAVE

A RANGER
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>>163959025
>tweaker
Found your problem.
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>>163959056
most the faggots that love to go omg its slow probably had one or two really good runs and then just assume thats what everyone should have and the rest is shit and slow

thats not how it works

or even worse are comparing mpa times to random pug times

its almost like PUGS are RANDOM in quality
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>>163958557
It's not that bad for a pub, considering he probably wasn't using attack team buff and weak drink.
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>>163959205
well if I could do it manually again I'd rather do that.
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>>163959212
>>163959056
My point was that getting top damage in a bad MPA doesn't mean much other than being (above)average
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>>163959212
It was really slow because there were 3 people doing less damage than the Te with wandhit only.
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>>163958951
wanna erp?
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>>163959410
Thanks for replying to my post.
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>>163959406
They were probably all zanverse spec'd, given that zanverse was separated.
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>>163959509
according to the .txt file only one guy was doing all the zanversing

the guy doing all the wand hits
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>>163959509
Oh man you're probably right. That's the second saddest thing I've ever seen.
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>>163957205
I'm confused, you can go straight to the cube attack and actual mother after downing her once?
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>>163959834
No, but if you fail to do enough damage to mother while she's downed you repeat the same arms phase. A good MPA can make her go to fighting you directly in 3 downs, a bad one could take 3 downs to move on to the 2nd arms phase.
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Are there any accessories that look like the mask from this hairstyle? I do really want this one but it's SG Scratch so I will probably never get it, is there anything I can buy that looks vaguely similar?
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>>163960551
that's not an accessory unfortunately. its TIED to the hairstyle because sega is FUCKING DUMB.

but there is something similar, gilias visor. fucking ancient though so lmao
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>>163960656
Yeah, I know it's tied to the hair in that case. I just want something that hides the face like that.
Gonna check that visor out thanks. I don't mind farming my ass off if I can just buy it somehow, this SG stuff being untradeable is fucking disgusting
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>>163960782
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>>163960656
Gilias doesn't quite work. It's too bulky and doesn't look right.
Gonna sink more SG into the scratch I guess, if I recycled everything I've gotten so far I would be almost halfway to just buying it with recycle badges.
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>>163962024
you can try adjusting the accessory sliders, or keep going for it in SG.

I have some crap in SG I am also aiming for and the no trade part is so fucking awful, on top of stupidly high recycle amount. It makes me hate that I want anything in it
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I'm lonely
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>>163964930
we all are, get over it you bitch.
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Can you still get the head riding luther accessory? I forgot all about it.
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>>163966164
just buy one in the shop
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whats a good unit affix for all 3 types of attack? money isn't too big of an issue but I would prefer not to go past 100m
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>>163967264
apprentice/mod/doombreak/mut2/spirita4(stigma/pp boost//noble stamina/elegant stamina)
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>>163967754
>apprentice
Apprentice is a pretty bad soul. Ult souls/x the soul are significantly better.
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>>163967908
Anon, I...
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>>163967908
It isn't bad if you want all three types of attack.
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Is Braver good yet?

Or does it still rely on nothing but Guren and Memebows?
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>>163956909
Pretty gud for a flatty.
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when is high grade appraisal worth the cost?
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>>163976385
when you have a 13* you want to actually use
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Oh shit, pso3 at comiket
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>>163976516
so not for a weapon i found at 20 got it
>>163976747
you got any sources for that claim?
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>>163976747
>>163976909
>comiket
not even
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>>163976909
It's right there
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>>163977468
Oh shit I can see Sakai's bald head over there
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>>163977468
that's alot of glare, can you get us a better picture of the pso3 thing
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>>163977875
Too late, the meatotakus are smashing the place up
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>>163978932
The only PSO related thing I can make out is what appears to be a scene of Amduscia's floating continent. Are you sure it's not just some content for PSO2 or another spinoff like Nova?
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>>163979131
You ever stop and think that maybe he's just totally full of shit and that's why he's not posting actually decent photos
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>>163980490
If you can't trust your friends in this thread then who can you trust?
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what was the chat command for hiding everything on screen again?
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>>163981519
/uioff ###
I forget if the number is in seconds or whatever or what the default was if you omit it
It's also canceled by opening the menu
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>PSO3 ever happening

PSO2 is Sega's TF2/DOTA

Why make a new game when good goyim will just keep paying truckloads of money for cosmetics and legal gambling?
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>>163981704
thx m8
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>>163982282
If something called "PSO3" were to be released within the next one or two years it'd probably essentially be a new episode of PSO2, but a bigger overhaul.

More or less an excuse to actually shed some old things, radically alter some of the game's fundamental systems without that baggage, etc. and maybe you'd be able to bring some cosmetic things with you.

This is something they were able to get away with moving PSO from platform to platform, and when PSU jumped from PC/PS2 to PSP

With all that said, though, I don't actually think it's all that likely. PSO2's development right now is too active and they seemed to have settled more into the more common piecemeal MMO approach, with occasional refactoring but with more emphasis on putting new systems on top of old ones, rather than doing a reset like that again
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>>163982282
Sega wishes it had 500k people playing shit2 at a time
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>>163983649
I like the idea but it doesn't sound like it will happen. I also doubt my toaster would be able to run it.
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>>163985545
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>>163985545
whos the thicc on the far right
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>>163984091
Computers are so fucking affordable that there's no excuse for having a toaster these days.
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>>163985545
UNG FICKER
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>>163986509
How much would you consider is affordable?
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>>163985545
>>163986153
nice mpa oh
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>>163986634
You can build a pretty decent rig for around 500.
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>>163986634
just buy a FX8350 and two RX480's
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>>163986781
You should add a picture to your joke to try and make it amusing.
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>>163986634
You could probably put together something that runs this at max settings @ 60 FPS for less than $400, before a monitor and all that anyway

Of course you'd probably want it to be able to run other games too, so you'd probably want a little more oomph than that
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>>163985545
Is that meant to be Mother if she cosplaying as Xion and she started subsisting entirely on nothing but cake?
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>>163986153
ナイスマルチOH
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>>163987148
Really? My current budget computer cost about that much five years ago.
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>>163987486
That's because processing technology is advancing a stupidly retarded fast rate.
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>>163987626
>stupidly retarded fast rate
I'm not really sure about that, but even if it was incremental progress from year to year, it's been five years
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>>163987813
Go look at cards released over the past 5 years. Each year processing power took a huge leap with power consumption going down by a lot each time.

A single 970 that I bought for less than 300 bucks completely shits on my GTX 570 SLI setup that I paid almost 700 dollars for 5 years ago while using less than 1/3rd of the power.
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>>163981070
>4chan
>Friends
Do you really think that senpai?
Day 1 shit.
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>>163988704
Any smut where Afin plows his sister?
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>>163988704
are there any with hug rappies?
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>>163988704
Can you upload that R18 Doujin plz plz plz?
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>>163985545
>>163986153
literal dead game
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>>163988704
I would pay you in meseta for a good quality scan of many of what you've bought with a catch of I wouldn't upload them for others.
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>>163989097
>wouldn't upload for others
and this is why nothing nice ever happens here. literally kill yourself
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>>163988704
Don't show shit if you're not going to upload anything like last time Steve Irwin, or I'll personally visit you.
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>>163988704
and mondo will still never scan these
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>>163989254
Stop being fucking poor then.
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>>163988704
>muryou
pls scan that, screw everything else
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>There are people unironically voting for non-ARKS characters
I guess the faggots are going to love when the earth characters stick around and push the characters that aren't generic anime high school girls even further into the background.
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How do you feel about psow and reddit getting 14* first?
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>>163989556
>not voting lisa every time
crazy bot is best bot
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>>163989556
The Earthicans actually better characters than the ARKS characters
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>>163991380
they'll just make some ray rifle lookalike

LAME

>>163991441
NO
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>>163991380
>implying I'm not tossing a few votes her way
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>>163991380
>>163992270
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>>163991380
Her name is Risa
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>>163992835
Lisa sounds cuter.
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>>163993841
No it doesn't
It sounds like some kind of flesh-eating virus
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>>163989556
You're voting for item designs based on the characters you choose. Good job voting for your favourite bimbo so we're doomed to get another bow shooting pink hearts or similar garbage.
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>>163993872
That kind of suits her.
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>>163994327
This why everyone should vote for Mother, that way we all get a free Astra weapon
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>>163989521
kill yourself
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>>163988704
Anything with cute little boys?
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Is there a weapon with a potential that makes Shiftas or Debands stronger? Or Zondeels?
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>>163994327
That's okay, the JPs will mass-vote for Matoi again anyways.
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>>163995693
>Shiftas or Debands stronger
No.

>Zondeels
Anything that boosts lightning technique damage would make a triggered Zondeel deal more damage but no weapon potentials will modify the suction effect
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Alright. Last time I played was in Jan 2014. I was hoping someone would answer just a few questions because I really want to try it again - I got to like 54 and some life things happened.

Has the English patch progressed any noticeable amount? It was mostly for core core core things back then if I remember right.

Are they really banning English players more readily now? Is it safer to just not type in English?

In your opinion, would it be better to just start over from a fresh character since it's been so long and my character is 54? I feel as though I would need too much time to remember shit.

I really appreciate it if someone answers.
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Shame they didn't finish this picture last thread when it would have been a fuckload more relevant to the parse discussion.
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>>163994327
So vote Koori for a gram camo
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>>163998453
>Has the English patch progressed any noticeable amount? It was mostly for core core core things back then if I remember right.

I'd say it's about 50%. Tutorial messages are still not translated, but a lot of menus, system messages, and some flavor text is all good. There's also an item translation that's mostly done, too.

>Are they really banning English players more readily now? Is it safer to just not type in English?

I haven't heard of any english speaking players getting banned that haven't done stupid shit. It's generally safer to avoid speaking English in public. If you have to do so, try to keep it in team or party chat.

>In your opinion, would it be better to just start over from a fresh character since it's been so long and my character is 54? I feel as though I would need too much time to remember shit.

That's up to you, I'd say. You can level pretty damn fast now thanks to all the shit they give you like bonus keys and boosters.
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>>163998971
If you vote Koori you're getting a Hitsugi daki.
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Sega doesn't provide any official support for foreigners and that's where their xenophobia ends. You won't get banned for speaking English unless you're exceedingly disruptive, to the point where multiple people will actually bother reporting you, but at that point it wouldn't make a difference if you were speaking Japanese.
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Good times . 3.
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>>164001198
>english single-word names
ughhhhh
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>>164001198
where u go
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>>163992835
her name is "psychotic deathmachine that should have been scrapped years ago"
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Explain this
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>>164002028
His marons were dead.
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>>164001495
real life man, school, work, friends etc.. and pso2 is DEAD. no coming back, all my shits sold and rmtd . 3.
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>Night Arks Mother EQ MPA falls apart due to in-fighting

This is going to be a good night for drama.
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>>164002569
Do share anon, I'm bored.
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>>164002490
disgusting
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>>163988704
Do tey have penises though?
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>>164002569
>Being this full of shit
>>
So far, not much. I've just been told that Cheeto and Leori got into some fight on Discord about weeding out "bad" players, and it caused the Mother MPA to be delayed by a few minutes. Stormfire ended up dropping the MPA soon after and said he was taking a break from "childish bickering."

I've known for a while that Cheeto has been anal as hell with recruitment, to the point that Night Arks has been struggling getting MPAs to fill some days.
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>>164003116
>Cheeto
Nobody calls them this though
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>>164003290

Uh, but they do?
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>>164003116
>struggling getting MPAs to fill some days
You mean the third mpa?
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>>164003445

Are you out of the loop? Night Arks hasn't been able to fill out a second MPA for a while now. Tonight they only had one and told everyone else to find pubs. They're bleeding active players badly and Mother EQ hasn't solved that problem. Leori wanted to lighten the recruitment restrictions and Cheeto pretty much spazzed the fuck out on them for merely suggesting it.
>>
Hu/Fi or Hu/Br?
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>>164003732
We just filled 2 mpas in 5 minutes, though.
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>>164003868

No, you didn't. Stop trying to conceal this drama. Night Arks deserves to fall apart.
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>>164003952
?
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>>164003952
But we did, and there`s no drama in team chat.
I just woke up, though.
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>>164004126

Nice old Google Doc. Not going to fool anyone. I'll post a Steam chatlog in a bit.
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>>164004126
That braver should feel ashamed of himself.
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Red, when will you be taking over and saving OH?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ggmiEypUPNg

Someone tell me if these are nVidia Inspector settings or ReShade.
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>>164004420
Never. He didn't and can't save OH. He destroyed it.
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>>164004126
>su/gu
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Oh, I knew they were raising the daily boost cap to 50% but I didn't know that the amount of % earned per CO was also going up to 5%

I suppose that means the decay rate is going up to 5% per 24 hours too?
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>>163998781
Is this what shitters actually believe? Nice reddit tier image though.
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http://pastebin.com/v8wD1Ymz

Night Arks drama.
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>>164004420
You flatter me.

>>164005120
I did not ask for this.
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>>164005580
And why would kayleth know anything about NA drama?
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>>164005580
>Fw
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>164004420
Fuck off 40Columns
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>>164001198
>Akmed the terrorist is back
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>>164005686
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>>164007173
nice mpa oh-chan
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>>164007173
nice mpa oh
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Does the first phase mother count towards the collection file rate?
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>>164007324
I don't believe so but it is something I haven't considered.
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>>164007173
>savior of OH now saving Earth
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Just blocked my former best friend for playing FFXIV instead of PSO2, feels great to get rid of human garbage like that.
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If there's one thing sega did right with the mother EQ it's making non su not get egg rewards.
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>>164007443
>Destroyer of OH
FTFY
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Why would you do this to yourself in a pub? You're basically leeching if there is anyone else zanversing aswell.
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>>164008297
Okay Spicey
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>>164007684
Is this you
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>>164009126
He's probably Spicey, king of talking shit behind others backs.
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>>164009205
>king of talking shit behind others backs.
No that's me.
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>>164009416
We know Spicy
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>>164004126
>filled with useless melees
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just kill me already
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>>163994327
I voted for mother because she is alone and friendless just like me..
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Soo..

Does anyone here actually play the game?
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>>163998781
Going by the file name and that thing described with the TD, I'm trying to think of who "FAGGOT" is because I'm sure it's a stand-in for someone. Everything but that specifically sounds like it could be any of the more obnoxious and condescending of the tryhard parse types.
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>>163998781
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>>164013431
>I'm too retarded to know how to use an OCR
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>>164014987
Huh? I'm not an EOP cuck like you.
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>>164003732
Isn't Cheeto the one who keeps inviting and accepting shit into the team?

>>164003116
desu stormfire should just ditch that rotting rathole already.
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>>164015219
Okay spicy, go back to screaming "Allah Akbar"
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>>163989371
Just wait till day 3 bucko'
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>Playing through PD again
>Noticed most people becomes semi-retarded dying left and right on premium block
Was mother a mistake?
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>>164018974
Maybe people got tired of PD since it doesn't give anything good anymore and started just playing around instead of tryharding it.
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>>164018553
Not that anon, but please don't get my hopes up.
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>>164018974
>premium block
I decided to run on a regular XH block today. I maxed my FUN points by the end of the run.
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>>164019757
Used more than 5 moons huh? So you died and went back to campship to buy at least 15 more moons. Good job.
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>>164019916
No I asked people in allchat to drop moons and they actually did.
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>>164013431
Mine is > 1600.
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>>164024415
Compared to a katana found in the west.
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>>164024415
I dont know why people are upset with this weapon

12% damage boost and infinite katana gear active are pretty good
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>>164024594
Because if you were playing properly you already had Katana Gear going almost all the time and 12% is exactly what Astra gives you.
It's just disappointing compared to how ridiculous the rod is, really. The rifle is in the same.
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>kayleth stirring up shit about night cucks
>resident avatarfags still doing that lilith posting bullshit and name dropping them constantly
>constant erp shit not in the containment channel

I know it's discord and all but this is jus5tt depressing as fuck

>>164024594
Compared to the pot on EPD katana and rifle pots are underwhelming even moreso for the rifle
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>>164025895
>kayleth stirring up shit about night cucks
It's sad to see some of the ship 4 players being so jealous of great 2 that they now attempt to spread their drama cancer over here too.
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>>164024594
>infinite gear
Nope. It just drops a lot slower. Takes ~60 seconds to drain gear if you're doing nothing, compared to ~20 seconds
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>>164025895
>kayleth stirring up shit about night cucks
wut
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>>164026183

Ship 4 used to be fine. Then TD4 came out and things started to change, with a select group of OH players pushing more circlejerks and omitting players they didn't like or didn't have "the best" gear. MPAs never had problems and the Google Doc worked, but then it started getting edited, people started being left out and it caused a good chunk of active OH players to walk out over time. Losing Saw was a huge kick in the gut, honestly, and the final straw for many. Ship 2 is still garbage though. I moved to 10.
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>>164026529
Are we taking into account rings and such?
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>tfw we haven't had an mpa for mother yet
moving to shit 2 next week, what's a good team to join?
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>>164026912
night arks
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>>164026657
>I moved to 10
Are you aware that 10 is considered to be the actual worst ship by most people in the japanese community? Even many gaijin hating nips admit it's worse than 2. At this point you're just being a hipster.
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>>164026770
Nope. Just the baseline. You also get no power boost if your gear isn't active. From the sound of it, guard gear ring is still quite worthless even with Kazami.
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>>164026183
I miss Skengs and Lilith shitposting... At least both went back to /a/ before they became as unbearable as the discucks
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>>164027186

Except it isn't, that would be Ship 7.
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>>164026912
name? I want to know who I'll miss.
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>>164027417
Pretty sure that's just the inofficial 'roleplaying' ship. That's bad in a different sense.
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>>164025895
>kayleth knowing anything about NA
>'resident avatarfags' when the discord's been the most quiet it's been in ages
>enju actually behaving himself for once by talking about video games

really makes you think
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>>164028016
>lying on the internet

it really oodles the noodles
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>>164025551
>Because if you were playing properly you already had Katana Gear going almost all the time
(you)
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>>164028126
or do you want me to avatarfag so you know who to make shit up about next time
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>>164028161
But he's pretty much right. In the mother EQ, once I get katana gear active I never lose it for the remainder of the fight.
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>>164028264
nice photoshop
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>>164028161
During bosses, yes you did. It's easy as shit to get your gear going when you are fighting something and there aren't any breaks in any fight other than PD long enough to make you lose it.
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Is it possible to generate a symbol art from an image?
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>>164028367
No, everyone is actually using those awkward colored shapes to draw their cute waifu symbol art.
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>>164028447
A testament to the skill of some of these nips.
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>>164025551
>ITZ MODIFIER ISN'T TWICE THE SIZE OF ASTRA WAAAH
>weapon has ~15% more raw power to feed through that 12% modifier that's the same as astra
>implying this isn't already going to be noticably stronger with the way the modifier stack works

oh, I'm so very very sorry for you that the first 14* katana isn't the most powerful weapon that will ever be released to the point of never having another item to release despite sega having had plans to go to 15* from day one.

CRY SOM MOAR YOU LITTLE BABBY.

(editor's note - it's still bullshit how powerful EPD is. sega's abject refusal to balance FO/TE and boner for trying to "correct" the "problem" they see of "not enough people" playing it by making it more and more broken which clearly ain't making people want to play FO/TE is simply disgusting.)

the part that's really fucking funny here is that for four years people have been whining about wanting weapons that had more distinction between one another besides looks and stats, and now that sega's throwing you a bone you're whining because it's not the most broken shit ever released.
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>Mother Falz collect file is good until mid April
The hell? Was it always like that? I guess I don't have to waste too many stargems to get everything I want.
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>waifu logs in
>logs out right after login bonus
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>>164029971
>No waifu
>Login
>Check DOs
>Maybe someone would play this EQ with me?
>No one does
>Alt+f4 in middle of EQ
>Get drunk
>Go to sleep
>Repeat
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>>164029971
source on picture please
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>>164029865
It's weaker than gix. Katana is the one weapon that has nearly no drawback at all to using gix.
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>>164025551
i wanted a better gimmick, the pot only caters to inexperienced players who have trouble keeping gear in the "run around" type eqs. it really wasn't a problem, can use skull katana to lower kazan's cost if you want, when you la guren or even normal attack guren the gear barely moves. the only small benefit i see this having is that you can keep gear from double to pd, can't even say elder to loser cause kazan could do that lol

>>164029865
they did that with summoner too, no one played that shit so they made it OP, its unbeatable in the right hands. i don't worry though, i've learned that the balance in these types of games are always changing, just play what you enjoy the most
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>>164031350
Did you even put it through the calculator? It's stronger than gix.
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>>164031374
>can use skull katana to lower kazan's cost if you want
That doesn't make the gear gauge go up any faster, which is the main problem because kazan is slow as fuck.
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>>164031350
Astra is preferable to Gix for bossing, the extra PP makes more than up for the relatively small amount of damage you will lose. The longer the fight the closer Gix gets to Astra, but for what we have Astra is easily the better option.
If you are just doing run and loot EQs then sure, stick to Gix.

14* obviously shits on both of them though, that's not even remotely a competition.
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>>164031643
Farming Astra doesn't make me want to kill myself like farming Gix.
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>>164031506
I did. http://4rt.info/psod/?ub59S

Even if you add in the standard 1.2x elemental weakness kasami doesn't win.

>>164031643
No it isn't. Like I said katana is the one weapon that has little to no drawback when using gix, also
>relatively small amount of damage you will lose
It's a 9-10% damage difference man. 40% attack pp regen isn't going to beat that when bossing especially if you're using the pp convert ring and taking advantage of snatch ja.
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>>164031792
>40% attack pp regen isn't going to beat that
It is though. I don't think you realize how huge 40% actually is for a pot like that.
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>>164031992
No, it really won't. Do you not know how to use snatch JA and ppc/kproi to regen pp insanely fast without doing anything but using PAs?
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>>164031792
It's not a 9-10% damage difference if you take into account the ramp up time and how short all the current boss EQs are.
Katana has tons of PP issues, even with Snatch JA. Convert isn't worth it at all either, you are much better off using P Keeper in that slot.
You clearly have no idea what you are talking about and the fact that you think the single hit you did that damage comparison for means anything is laughable.
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>>164032068
>Bringing up Ketus Proi
Wew, are you just trolling now?
It's largely irrelevant since the only fight you can even fill it during is PD and even there it only comes up at the very, very, end right before the boss dies.
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>>164032068
>ketos proi
No way you're going to get that charged in a boss eq unless you get hit constantly and PPC ring has huge downtime, while you can burn through your entire PP pool in less than 10 seconds. I have no idea why you're bringing up snatch JA in relation to PP restoration though.
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>>164032094
>It's not a 9-10% damage difference if you take into account the ramp up time and how short all the current boss EQs are.
True, I didn't think of that. Still though, it depends on how long the fight is.
>Convert isn't worth it at all either, you are much better off using P Keeper in that slot
You can switch rings with a chat command, no reason at all to not use both.

>>164032221
I meant kproi more for stuff like ult and anga, for EQ bosses you'd just use ppc (also as I'm sure many people are aware it is in fact possible to charge your pb on mother as well).
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>>164031118
>Soukou Akki Muramasa

Polish your google skills
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>>164032328
If you cancel a hatou or any other pa with a step and use step ja to use another PA, there's a small window where you regenerate PP during the step. When there's something boosting your PP recovery this is a pretty big boost and can keep you going much longer without using a normal attack.
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>>164032328
>>164032221
>>164032094
Also, something I completely neglected
>Bringing katana to a boss EQ
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>>164031792
Wonder how you get that, I get this.
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>>164032350
Ult falls under run and loot shenanigans, so I agree there, you'd be better off with Gix.
I didn't actually think of switching rings mid-fight, but with the CD on it I can't imagine it'd help all that much overall. I'll give it a shot next Mother. Do you have to keep the PCC Ring equipped for the entire duration of the buff or can you switch back to PKeeper straight after activation?
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>>164032679
Do you have the link to your calc?
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>>164032490
is there a video of this? never heard of this
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>>164032751
>or can you switch back to PKeeper straight after activation?
I never actually thought of that, so I dunno.
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>>164032490
Oh that, I remember reading about that and just discarding it because it's like a 100 DPS (~9% relative DPS) loss to regain 1-2 PP every time you do it. I guess it might be worth doing now if you're using the PPC ring or under ketos though.
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>Come back to game
>Shiftabot friend partner removed me
Fuck you
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>>164032754
Nope, I closed it after taking the picture. Even if you go with absolutely no stats and just stick in the raw values, the 14* comes out ontop of the 20% gix.
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Is there a reason why i see bravers hiding far back during cube phase while other classes just try their best hitting them?
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>>164034497
They are conserving PP to kill Mother quicker.
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>not using Julius nifta and a pp mag
Costs several stacks of cubes depending on the Atk type you want
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>>164034704
Aren't PP Mags a meme? I thought all the cool kids run with Stat Boosters
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>>164026912
who u

if you are leaving and not memeing it should not matter anyway
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>>164034948
Stat boosters are literally just a 15 second shifta/deband though.
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>>164034323
>Even if you go with absolutely no stats and just stick in the raw values, the 14* comes out ontop of the 20% gix.
A 14* would have an advantage over gix if you just used the default stat values.

http://4rt.info/psod/?ub59S is the link to my calc, as far as I can see there's no problem with it.
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>>164035354
20 seconds, isn't it? And they trigger sequentially so you can get like 30-40% uptime if you stack them
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>>164035483
Yes but shifta and deband are meaningless when every single tech using class or just anyone with the right pair of boots can cast them
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Reminder that you should be ashamed of yourself if you ever considered bringing a katana to mother.
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>>164035590
What else are you gonna use though? With Stat Boosters you at least get something out of your MAG actions every now and then.
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>>164035369
>3092 barehanded atp
What the fuck dude, you are aware that's supposed to be without weapon, right?
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>>164035239
It's just shitposint.
If someone wanted go to ship2 because no team EQs they would move years ago.
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>>164035837
Yes, I am. That's my buffed barehanded attack, meaning that I include the stat buff from katana gear there as well.
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>>164035907
So you have literally 300 Atk on each of your units?
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>>164035907
>including a stat that's tied to having a weapon equipped
That's not barehanded you fuckknuckle.
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>>164036107
Except it actually is, you just take your normal barehanded buffed attack and multiply it by 1.3

>>164036084
120 units. Do you not have satk up 1-3 maxed?
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>>164036242
You are full of shit.
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>>164036242
>Do you not have satk up 1-3 maxed
Oh nevermind, you're that guy. Carry on then.
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>>164036358
No, i'm not. Swiki's notes on katana gear:
>The batting status total value excluding the weapon attack power is increased by 30%, and the critical rate is increased by about 50%.
>* Although it was stated as basic impact power which does not include correction by the equipment and special ability before, this is an error

So, take my unarmed buffed satk (2,379) and multiply it by 1.3 and you get 3,092.7

>>164036548
Huh?
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>>164037147
That guy that maxes all 3 stat ups instead of getting the highest value per point by maxing only the last one and never uses bows. I assume there is only one guy that does that anyway.
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>>164037387
There are several people who do that, mostly because bows are lackluster on most relevant stuff other than like EQ bosses, which you shouldn't bring Br/Hu to.
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>>164037147
Except you're still full of shit, thits showing that you've never actually directly compared numbers yourself.
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>>164037556
>which you shouldn't bring Br/Hu to
I agree with that, but bows are definitely better for the various boss spawns in mobbing EQs aswell. Not to mention that if you start arguing like that, you shouldn't bring Br/Hu to anything because there is always something more optimal than that.
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>>164037795
What do you mean?
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>>164037556
>>164037827
Its a slippery slope of bullshit where the only thing that becomes "optimal" is 10 fo, a te and a wb slave or some shit.

"Dont bring br/hu to mother" yeah and might as well just kill yourself, dont play whats fun guys, only whats fastest, fun be fucked.
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>All that PD EQ on the schedule

What a waste
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>pso2g memeplay discussion
cute.
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>>164037941
>10 fo, a te and a wb slave
That's never optimal aswell, but I agree with your point anyway. Also people seriously overvalue the difference between classes. I wish more people would play Br on something like PD so I wouldn't have to see all these 19k dps Forces. Sure Force will do better, but that's only if you can actually play both classes eually well, which most people clearly can't.
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>>164037827
Br/Hu is actually pretty top tier for a lot of stuff like ultimate or guruguru quests where not everything is fire weak. While theoretically bows beat katanas for most bosses, in practice it doesn't always end up like that. Kamikaze can very easily miss a weak point or WB due to a boss suddenly moving, which most aggressive bosses do. There's also shit like mobs jumping in front of your shots, which greatly lowers your actual dps. Basically, the only times kamikaze is king is when you're fighting a lone boss that stays still for a good bit of time, which isn't very realistic for most content.
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>>164038316
NA can
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>>164038490
NA MPAs is actually where I see those 19k DPS forces.
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>>164038559
Post NA parses.
With socks and lilith. I bet those two leech like the fucks they are.
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>>164038756
socks doesnt leech. lilith on the other hand does when they something thatn isnt Summoner. for whatever reasons lazy fuck does better as Su then any melee class he plays
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>>164039258
Post the parse.
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Anyone got a list of recommended tech crafts? Just started playing FO and I'm lost on it
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>>164038283
ok spicy
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>>164039414
Unless you are ridiculously rich and have 500+ PP you should always go for the crafts with the highest power modifiers since they are generally much more PP efficient overall even if they increase the PP costs slightly. If you do have more PP than you know what to do with you will want the quick charging but weaker techs and go to town
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>>164039773
This is bad advice

>>164039414
This list here is a bit old but still mostly accurate http://www.pso-world.com/forums/showthread.php?225884-Force-Discussion&p=3311837#post3311837 (There is some wrong stuff like recommending blazing nafoie over concentrated and brilliant ilgrants over swift, though)
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>>164040337
This is way outdated and has been proven numerous times to not be ideal.
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>>164038756
Not gonna namedrop so you'll have to believe me that this is a NA parse. Note that the run was pretty fucked because of PD giving a bullshit pattern (starting by throwing up 4 walls, then flying around, ramming the platform, throwing debris etc. for a solid 2 minutes), which is why even the top 4 DPS is pretty bad for a Fo/Te. At any rate, second place is the zanverse, second to last is someone trying Su/Gu, which failed horribly because of the bullshit pattern and basically no support for it (NA doesn't panic despite stacking force) and somewhere in there are 2 Ra/Hu, the rest is Fo/Te. Not sure about the last guy, I think he just dc'd. My point isn't shitting on NA members though, I just don't like this le force stacking is OP bullshit they do, which is why I usually refuse running PD with them. I think many of these people would have done better if they were allowed to play what they actually like playing. Atleast they're doing something different for mother now, so maybe there is still hope for them.
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>>164040451
I did mention that a good few of them are wrong, but the big important ones are in fact correct.
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>>164040472
Nice pug parse.
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>>164040472
Night arks does a lot of this theorycrafting shit and refuses to correct it when it turns out it doesn't actually work unless you get people who are good at whatever you're doing.
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>>163998781
This is a good image. Really fits my idea of people who are obsessed with parsing. What should have been a gauge for how well you are doing has turned into a shit show for people to gloat about how much incredible damage they did in fucking beach wars. (People have done this before.)

Sega needs to BAN your asses, I swear. That other guy was right, it really does bring out the worst in people.
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>>164041595
>Some people are douchebags with a thing (and would have been douchebags anyways)
>Everyone who uses that thing should be banned
Okay.
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>>164041762
Yes, this is exactly what I'm saying. One bad egg has spoiled the milk, it's time to let go. None of you deserve this tool. As a collective, you're all guilty. Sorry, if your friend just shot a cop and you're in the passenger seat, you're a liability. That's the way the cookie crumbles.
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>>164042036
What
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>>164040472
this is why i laugh at any cucks wanting to join le best epik team and tryhards in this fucking game. its not a game meant for that, and the types to get obsessed with parse or best setup at the cost of playing what they want to play, is who should avoid.

>Were allowed to play what they actually liked playing

They cant even bring what they want, lmoa.

i also dont know why you care about not namedropping, you shit 2 do it all the time already anyway. why are you even here, but on THAT ship?

>>164041762
no really, but douchebags do not take it so far and are not always douchebags if you dont give them the fucking TOOLS to do so
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>>164042036
Oh, you discovered that a distant relative of yours killed someone? Guess the entire family should hang! Justice! Deserved!
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>>164042076
>but douchebags do not take it so far
Oh yes they do. Plenty of JPs go really far when it comes to name and shame for even slightly subpar equipment.
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>>164042296
The king of EN name and shame is back. Spicy the Mudslime.
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>>164038414
>He doesn't recognize boss patterns to let kamikaze go and hit 100%
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>>164042625
Except that means you spend time waiting for the boss to be open, and in that time doing 0 DPS.
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>>164042070
Are you daft? Are analogies too hard for you?

>>164042245
Way to blow it out of proportion and you didn't even do it right. By association, you are guilty for using the tool. If something is illegal you don't do it or you get in trouble. You use the parser? You should go to the gallows. Simple as that. Why are parse users so annoying? You are only confirming my beliefs towards yourselves.
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The game isn't just about numbers

As long as ur havin fun then is al ok
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>>164043013
The analogy isn't even close to being comparable
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>>164043028
>implying getting better and seeing numerical progress for your effort isn't fun
just go back to playing your super mario games, mmos arent for you
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>>164043013
>you replied to me therefore you must be using parser!

I don't have to blow it out of proportion. I am mocking you for simplifying the way you pass judgement on people because complexity is just not your strong point.

You basically give up and choose the simple-minded answer that covers a group of people that you are unable to judge individually.
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>>164043163
yeah by playing what you find fun and maybe eventually getting better gear or affixes, while also getting nice cosmetics to play with as well. not lmoa parses play dis class only, muh autism TA times or whatnot.

you know theres more than just YOUR way of playing an mmo, yeah? and no, the other way other than yours isnt immediately "must be a shitter"
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>>164043163
As long as im enjoying myself who cares about what you think
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>>164043445
evidently you anti-parser do care what others think quite a bit, if you dont care then why do you give a fuck if someone uses a parser and knows you are leeching
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>>164043594
>and knows you are leeching
???
Being anti parser MUST mean I'm leeching?
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>>164043594
When did i ever say anything about parses?

You can use a parser all you want and get frustrated over it but im having fun just playing the quests
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Is fighter unheard of in night arks? It's funny out parsing forces as fighter
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>parserfags still here when sega told them to jump of a building
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>parserhackers still here after sega told them to hit the road
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>>164044092
>>164044437
>you're still here after we told you to fuck off
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Fi/Hu or Fi/Br
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>>164044901
Su/Fi
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>>164044989
how would that even work???
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>>164044901
>m-muh fi
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>>164045024
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c-shIOFYCRU
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>>164044901
is this even a question? Fi/Hu is the inly option for Fi main
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>>164043140
You say it isn't and I say it is. So looks like we're at a stand still aren't we.

>>164043285
There are no complexities to the situation. If I feel as though that the parser is everything this game doesn't stand for, then I made it my point and I made it evident in my own words. You're not deep. I didn't choose the "simple-minded" answer as you so condescendingly described, I chose to go towards what makes sense based off of viable evidence that people can't use this tool for good. I never "give up." I gave in to logic and logic prevails.

Parsing is a plague and defending it tells me you have the virus, you must be purged.
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>>164044437
>parserhackers
That was my favorite meme. Can we go back to calling parsers equivalent to hacking? Also do you think Putin parsed the american elections?
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>>164044901
FI/HU, FI/BR is a meme and not a very good one.
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>>164045116
i dont understand
the trees dont look like they synergise at all

>>164045139
i thought Fi/Br limit brake katanas were a big meme a year ago
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>>164045352
>access data that shouldn't be accessed
>not hacking
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>>164045240
It's time to freaking die!!!
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>parserfags still here because they're too fat to gtfo
lmoa@urlife
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>>164045459
>the trees dont look like they synergise at all
Fi is arguably the best sub for summoner for general use.
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>>164045743
people keep saying Br was better sub since you dont have to deal with positioning
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>>164045240
You aren't thorough enough in your analysis before providing your limp-wristed analogies. You should learn to articulate your thoughts without them, because they seem to be used in lieu of actual substance to your argument.

For example, how are parserfags close enough to milk or cookies? They have no specific community to share their thoughts together, and only one guy produces Overparse. They don't work together enough to produce an aggregate that can be considered a collective. On the other hand, all the Anonymous here can be considered a collective that is more united that parserfags, yet are you guilty of any crimes conducted by 4channers? No.

The strongest argument you can have by far is how you are forbidden from using the tools by Sega's ruleset. However, all analogies produced so far are weak and insufficient and ought to be avoided from the discussion.

That's the only thing triggering me.
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>>164045743
general use doesn't sound useful in XH
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>>164045709
It's okay spicy, no one liked you anyway.
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>>164043445
>ship 4.jpg
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>>164045902
>>164045976
I can tell it works wonderful in XH.
You'll only want to sub gu on raid bosses.
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>>164046024
you mean ship2

seriously get your memes right, ship4 was the "elitist" ship because didnt want to be on the same place as reddit/psow filth

if gonna meme do it right
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>>164045941
You're splitting hairs now, this isn't even about parsing any more. You're upset at my goof ball analogies? Okay, you have deeper underlying issues beyond that. You're not even on the original point so I don't have any reason to reply to you seriously. You've proven you aren't worth that so I'll give you another fun analogy.

A dog to a bone, much like a nerd to complaining about analogies on 4chan.
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>>164046431
But that's literally, "Who needs friends when I can have fun by myself." If they want to avoid others they CLEARLY do not want to have friends. I think it is you who needs to meme right.
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>>164046531
Absolutely not. The basis of my argument is that your analogies fail to effectively lump together parserfags. In doing so, I am disrupting what your entire argument has hinged on to produce your conclusion. This is why you never bring analogies ever into a discussion.
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>>164046691
except ship4 was chosen for vg to hang out with itself while avoiding the other emoticon allchat cutin meme cancer that was either more normies (somehow) or other awful non 4chin weebs. not to play by itself, that would be any other ship than 2 or 4.
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>He said he likes to parse because he wants to better his damage?
>Ehhh, kimoi. How lame!
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>>164046772
You did not disrupt anything. I never was "arguing" with anyone. I know keyboard warriors like to think they're winning internet fights, but you already lost that one by taking that post as anything more than playful pulling. I can bring analogies all I want and will continue to do so because I can.

"The basis of my argument" Your basis is shallow and tweezed because something I said didn't fit your bills.

Also

Again

No one is arguing.

Pathetic.
>>
>>164047057
But that doesn't happen any more. You're not up to date are you? Teams on ship 4 can't even amass MPAs any more. Get with the times. No one plays together...
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>>164047061
>he thinks parsing makes his damage better
>>
I just got a Tokyo Gold key, should I use it now or wait until I'm higher level?
I'm only level 34 right now and I heard they scale and give really good exp
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>>164047735
expiration date
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You guys want some OH parse logs? What you see might shock you...
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>>164047061
Show me the pso2 version of fflogs where you can use it to see what you're fucking up, I'll wait.
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>>164047650
>He parses
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>>164047061
>Parsing in the most casual current mmo to date
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>>164047890
If you dont know someone is messing up then wouldn't you be happier

Ignorance is bliss after all
>>
>>164047510
That's not my basis, that's just my reason. A basis would be clause in my argument. Your analogies simply did not fit and I'm glad you admitted it by telling me you were "merely pretending" that they would ever come close to convincing.
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>>164047770
Leveling seems pretty quick so I'm not worried about waiting a bit. If I use it now will it get me like 10+ levels or something?
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>>164048353
1-3 probably
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>>164048091
I wasn't "merely pretending" you harebrained oaf. You've projected and inserted your own ideals into my words because you were upset by them. Also that is 100 percent your basis, it is the only thing you keep hinging on, you're sitting here at your computer insistently replying to me because it has upset you so much. Never once did I say I wanted to "convince" someone, convince them of what? I don't even know what you're talking about any more. Are you following this string of conversation any more? You're not good at this internet dialogue thing.
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>>164048431
okay lilith
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You guys want to see some Hyperion logs? What you see might surprise you...
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>>164048508
No, I'm not that guy. Namedropping is poor etiquette.
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Parse THIS

*unzips kazan nadeshiko*
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>>164047874
Post em
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>>164048431
Sorry but the just "playful pulling" is the same as "merely pretending" as it gets. Although the connection to what you were saying was pretty clear when you said parserfags were a collective. They aren't even close to one. That can't be an analogy can it? And it's utterly false, too.
>>
>>164047638
no MPA ≠ people not playing together. People still party, there is just no real reason to MPA as its not like td4 where the failure of pubs was a thing, nor magatsu where you wanted an MPA to have some extra time.

It would be nice to I guess, but a lot of the team seems indifferent/doesn't care.
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>>164048791
Don't tell Ly about this one...
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You guys want to see some oak logs? What you see might make your dick implode...
>>
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>>164049172
Looks legit
>>
Who is the most pathetic lonely fag on pso2g?
I am looking for some beta fag who will only think about how to please me while we play this shitty game together.
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>>164049429
Me.
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>>164049429
>Who is the most pathetic lonely fag on pso2g?
me
>I am looking for some beta fag who will only think about how to please me while we play this shitty game together.
fuck that lmao
>>
>>164049429
are you a cute girl or will at least pretend to be one?
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>and the he said "I parse to improve my damage"
>>
>>164049568
Name drop yourself retard
>>164049934
It doesn't matter.
What matter is that you are alone and you have nothing better to do.
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>>164050540
Post your gear first.
I ain't pleasing a shitter.
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>>164049172
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>And then he told me THIS is how large his parser damage is
>Pfft, are you serious?!
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>>164050746
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>mfw applied to "NO"
>no response yet
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>>164050708
I see you are implying sexual pleasure which is isn't what I am looking for.
I am looking for someone who could become obsessed with me, someone autistic enough to have feelings for someone from internet I hope you understand.
Sure one thing leads to other, but "just" ERP with a slut who is hungry for cocks isn't something I enjoy, especially if she is this fat.
>>
>>164050708
Not him but can I be your friend?
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>>164052208
You always can join OH without any bullshit.
>>
>>164052208
I wouldnt join that team if I were you
>>
Anyone want to run td4 on ship4 with me?
I don't even know why I am logging in to do this shit...
>>
>>164053017
He said fat
>>
>>164052634
>>164052913
>OH being this desperate for fresh blood
At least "NO" gets team MPA's and is not just a bunch of autists scared of playing with their own team.
>>
>>164053129
I don't even know who you are. don't bother, just do mother instead
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>>164052614
Absolutely, do you like Lisa?
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>>164053252
Oh that's even worse... my not 20/20 vision is very good
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>>164053410
yeah she random DEWA DEWA DEWA LISA NEEDS BRACES XDDDADadasd
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>>164053786
Your irony doesn't sway my appreciation for her. Robots are fantastic and she's the saving grace for this game as far as NPCs go.
>>
>>164050708
>>164053017
Kill yourself already Nhite, no one actually likes you.
>>
>>164053279
4hours for mom
What the I am going to do for 4hours?
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>>164050708
>>164053017
>removed for being fat
>>
>>164054386
You're right...I always knew they didn't...

https://my.mixtape.moe/qllbw.webm
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>>164048934
But they are. Sega made it very clear that parsing is not allowed and everone using it is collectively breaking those rules.
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>>164056492
>404
Gee wiz it really is true
>>
>>164053410
Shes one of my favorites along with PATTYCHAN DESU YOOOO. I sent you friend request but its sleep time for me probably will never see you cuz timezone.
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>>164052208
>>164052634
>>164053275
Sadness
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>>164056653
They're not. They don't recognize themselves as a collective no more than the people who connect from terminals outside of Japan are willing to lump themselves together to create a singular identifiable function.
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>>164058760
Good reply chain, I love you guys. Reminded of better days.
>>
>>164053786
>>164057024
How many characters can be summarized in meme? A question that should be discussed in the next thread.
>>
make a new thread you lazy cunts
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>>164060029
but i made the last one..
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>>164060029
nah you a cunt mate
>>
>>164059643
Pietro, Io, Katori/Sagas bit, Marlu/Ohza, probably more I haven't listed.
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>>164060429
>Marlu/Ohza
Really had forgotten they existed
>>
>>164060747
>>164060429
Marlu and Ohza are a cute couple, is it really hard to forget about them? I would've forgot about the anime shits had they not kept ramming them down our throats.
>>
NEw thread
>>164060732
>>164060732
>>164060732
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