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Under construction edition.

*****NEW TO THE GAME?*****
Tell us your server and get a referral code from a fellow /wowsg/ to get extra bonus credits/flags/XP and two free premium ships (one instantly, one after you research a T6 ship).

>Mostly updated guide (Awaiting German DDs):
http://pastebin.com/mAat47Cb (embed) (embed)

>5.16 LIVE
http://worldofwarships.com/en/news/common/update-notes-0516/

>2017 Preview
http://worldofwarships.com/en/news/common/whatsinthebox/

>Christmas Missions for NA + New Year Medals
https://worldofwarships.com/en/news/common/shippy-ki-yay/
http://forum.worldofwarships.com/index.php?/topic/108298-christmas-hidden-achievements/

>Christmas Luckboxes (Chance for premiums or show love for your favourite /wowsg/)
https://santa.worldofwarships.com/en/#/
https://santa.worldofwarships.eu/en/#/

>Leaked info on new Premiums, including Musashi and Mutsu
https://thearmoredpatrol.com/2016/12/22/wows-tap-insider-news-22-xii-2016/

>Graf Spee and Tier 6 camo+ship missions (Missions are not for EU)
https://worldofwarships.com/en/news/common/bobbarkersfaveship/#santa
WG EU addresses the outrage:
http://forum.worldofwarships.eu/index.php?/topic/69278-where-are-the-christmas-convoy-missions/page__pid__1516981__st__840

>Statistic tracker - Stalk your favourite /wowsg/!:
http://warships.today
http://wows-numbers.com/
http://www.wowstats.org/
http://maplesyrup.sweet.coocan.jp/wows/index.html

>In-game chat channel:
NA Channel: Search for '/vg/' channel by Antibully_ranger
EU Channel: "Official /vg/ channel", password is "vidya"
SEA Channel: /vg/

>Clans
[BOTES] on NA Contact Precisionista Full At the moment
[BOTES] on SEA Contact Benisquare :DDD
[HOTEL] on EU Contact Rex1121

Last Thread: >>163770341
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summoning meaning in life
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Kaga for first
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Hotel: Literally, the QTest.
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>>163866058
The number 12

Your welcome
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>>163866058
To unlock all ships in game of course tovarsch )))))
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>>163866058
Cute botes.
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The Kawachi and Miyogi seem to have such godawful stock grinds that I'm thinking it might be faster to grind through their modules in co-op. Thoughts? Would that be potentially less painful?
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>>163866543
Skipping them entirely?
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>>163866543
wait until you get the stock Fuso
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>>163866058
Playing QT botes with nice people who also like botes.
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>>163866543
All jap BBs have awful stock grinds. Stock Fuso is basically Kawachi in T6 games.

Keep free XP to blast through that shit as soon as you buy the ship.
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Lebe!
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>>163866860
show us her penis
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>French BB line still not announced
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>>163867040
>thinking it's going to happen before RN BBs

Just stop Anon you're only hurting yourself
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>>163866639
>not saving free XP to get past stock hulls on ships
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>>163866543
Don't waste your time unlocking modules not needed to progress.

>>163866807
Stock Kongo is fine.
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>>163867254
I gotta save it for the Missouri
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>RN BB line still not announced
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>Soviet BB line will be introduced
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>>163867512
I can't wait.
I'd love it to come before the RN BB line too just for sheer comedy value.
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>>163867325
You know I have seen other BBs have the same thing done to them, this is not special to this one bote
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>>163867512
Too many paper ships. Maybe after they split battlecruisers.
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>>163867642
I know, it happened the same way to my full hp Bismarck the same day. still funny tho
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>>163861558
>>163861558
Lmao so this is the dude sperging over anons playing with friends while at the same time begging for divisions in the /vg/ chat every day? Let's hear your explanation V4L.
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>>163867862
Please stop this, he might kill himself.
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>>163867862
He had a breakdown cause he was being bullied by wavebave.
He dindu nuffin.
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>>163866612
>>163866639
>>163866807
>>163867316
Aww man. I hardly have any free xp.
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>>163868450
Do it in co-op you retard.
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>play ijn cv t5
>get decent damage every game but get destroyed by the occasional as bogue

>decide to play as bogue to see how to fight it
>feel like cancer
>shoot down 20+ planes each game

help
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>>163867512
proofs?
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>>163868321
Be a good boy, dindu nuffin. Oh papa dindu ~ nuffin. Oh papa dindu niffun ~. White cop must have planted something.
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>>163868483
do people actually play co-op unironically? what's the point?
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>>163868579
sekret documetns. cant show u yet tovarisch ))))))))
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>>163868664
Yeah I do to get necessary modules/be done with low tier ships.

What of it?
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>>163865861
hello i am a professional funposter and id like to show you my latest magnus opus

>>163860559

thank you for your time
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>>163868831
I always though Co-op gave lower exp than random battles did, so it seemed just like a waste.
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>>163868051
>>163868321
>>163867862
L M A O
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>>163868925
Not him, but it does. I do find it fun though.
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>>163868909
whooops
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>>163868925
I guess some people don't want to wreck their winrate/wtr because of STATS.

I heard some unicums play without modules and upgrades because they don't want to spend the credits.
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>>163868925
No it's pretty good.
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>>163868483
I -am- a bit impatient, and that seems like a lot of free xp. I'm just trying to get to the CV line, so maybe I'll do that, I guess. Thanks, anon.
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>>163868925
If you don't have more than 300 100% XP camos at this point, you must be doing something very fucking wrong and you can squeeze out 1500/2000 XP after modifiers in co-op without doing anything at all while alt tabbing.

>>163869105
It's called being financially set for high tiers :^)
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SUMMONING V4L1UM
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>>163869105
thank God I already bought all the ships that I need, Now I can just watch the credits grow and just worry about paying the premium consumables.
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>>163866860
The design is so god damn boring.
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>>163869315
I hear if you gloat hard enough 3 times, he will appear
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>>163869464
EMBARASSING ME
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I haven't hit a citadel once vs a New Orleans, fucking typical that I finished my grind in it once they buffed the armour
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>>163869632
>letting a Mogami burn you from full health in a baBBie
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>>163869464
YEAH I'M SO GREAT
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>>163869464
YOU LOST MY RESPECT NIGGA
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>>163869740
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T-22 a fat liquid shit
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>>163857552
If you want to link your replays here I'd be happy to see wtf you're doing to get such an atrocious winrate (no offense)

I mean really 41%, like goddam
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>>163870198
I gave him advice, some of my replays and he didn't bother replying back or even say "thank you".
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>>163870116
T-22-chan is cute! Cute!!
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>>163870294
Might be more open to criticism now, idk

Genuinely interested in seeing his play because he's a literal detriment to his team, it's like impossible to get below 45-46 percent
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>>163870379
she's fat and her dad was a fishing trawler
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>>163870198
@ original poster

Stop being a trainwreck and git gud; you don't get abs like mine by being a slouch.
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>>163870440
No he added me and I gave him advice, he just signed off and is back to whine some more. 41% is literally troll winrate, you don't get that even if you're a bot.
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>Graf's Pee in both teams
>some guy in my team asks why people buy a free boat
>our Graf starts shooting him
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>>163870440
>impossible to get below 45%

Hi :^)
http://wows-numbers.com/player/533743822,Ammiraglio_VB/

It's real, i even met him in a random battle.
He was in the enemy team fortunately.
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>>163871318
I have stared into the abyss.
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DD's and Cruisers are such shits I hate them, their rate of fire and fires leave me alone stop bullying me in my BB!!!!! it's not my fault I'm slow and fat!!!!
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>>163870743
[muffled genuine laughter]
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>>163871448
fuck off autispara
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>>163871448
I want to make Spooping_Mako my sexual slave
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>tashkent refuses to enter caps because he doesn't want to get outspotted by the enemy IJN DDs
>akatsuki says he's spotting and so he drives right past all the caps and gets caught between several cruisers
When will Wargaming add a feature to let a bot take over your ship as soon as you realize the battle is lost?
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>>163871448
>Mako is dogshit with cruisers and destroyers
>Mako never gets set on fire when he plays baBBies because he lets him team be his shield
>Mako wants to nerf baBBies and buff cruisers and destroyers
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Bought a collection of U.S. Army-Navy Journal of Recognition (from 1943) a few days ago in a used bookstore. Among its contents, it features a two-page spread of Duck. Since it's from 1943, the information contained is the best that military intelligence had to offer at the time, i.e. it was hilariously wrong.

>capable of great speeds
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>>163872139
Mako doesn't play anymore kiddo
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>>163872518
Why did he quit?
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>>163872513
damn, that's neat as fuck
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I have just about enough gold after santa stuff to free XP Missouri, is it worth it? If not I could use it to skip the rest of Izumo and get Yamato and such.
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>>163872790
Why not wait for a free xp event?
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>>163872609
Slay is on vacation and Lunatic went back to SEA.

/wowsg/ is too shit to div with Mako apparently.
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>>163872849
I have in the past, but I don't really see them doing it again though, it's an effective 30% off their gold take for Missouri.
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>>163870571
>implying that you actually do have great abs
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>>163872861
>people complain about unicums that do actually div with /wowsg/ when people like this exist
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>Make post
>People start calling me a name of someone that I am not

This thread truly can not be saved.
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http://www.strawpoll.me/11969811/r

http://www.strawpoll.me/11969811/r

http://www.strawpoll.me/11969811/r
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>>163873018
At least i can see my feet if i look down.
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>>163873158
155mm -> 139mm Captain nerfs made them buff Kutuzov.

>That security prem will never get worse
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>>163873015
I doubt Missouri's going to be the only one of its kind. Surveys after its release kind of hinted at it. Musashi's likely going to be sold the same way, and the Black has been sitting around forever despite being a Fletcher clone. They're already being really generous with free exp and I don't see the events stopping. These new years camos give nothing but it.
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If i were a bote, i'd have sex with unicum anons, EU ones are preferred due to their bigger sizes and elegant charm.
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>>163873401
Why would you wantt worst Hotel for?
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>>163873675
>EU ones
>EU unicums
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>>163873675
Ficki Ficki!?
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>>163873812
It's okay raptor, maybe bluenicums will get a handjob or something.
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>>163873951
post your stats kid, I want to laugh at you harder
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>>163874119
Y-you too!
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>>163867316
>He doesn't elite every ship out of principle.
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>>163873401
likely we will also see a german and a bong equivalent of this as well

fuck, we might even get richelieu like this
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>>163874536
>won't post his stats
>will never post his stats
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>>163874596
>fuck, we might even get richelieu like this

Jean Bart and Rodney will get this. Mark my words.
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>>163874596
Doubt it for Richelieu
She'll likely be the tech tree ship with the Jean Bart as a regular premium if either of them, maybe with US AA or something as a gimmick.
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What is this thing and what is it doing on my team?
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>>163874872
Probably not. They might be regular premiums, but that's because they're T7, well within the regular premium range.
The giant free XP cost ships look like they're going to be for the T9/10 sister ships like the Iowas and Musashi, and maybe the Fletcher clone, and it's specifically because they can say that they're not really selling top tier ships because you can get them for free and you still have to grind out the XP somewhere (even if they really do just want you to shekel it out) and as more of a "long term endgame goal for experienced players", while they can also justify charging a bunch of money if you actually did want to just buy them.
I really don't think we're going to be seeing them replace regular premiums so much as a way to get around them saying they'd never "sell" premiums above T8.
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I blame you for this loss, One Eyed
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Why can i not log in to this fucking game, do I need to redownload the client?
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>>163874872
Jean Bart and Rodney are gone probably be T8 and T7 respectively, they will probably be standard premiums
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Gneisenau makes me happy!
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>>163876118
I am convinced that whenever I div with you and Spud specifically, madness occurs. :^)
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how does this make you feel?
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>>163876698
>chinkshit
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>>163877003
That I spent money on a prostitute and some food?
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>>163877003
Sounds like shit taste desu.
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>>163876698
>blitz the 80k to Gneisenau in 2 days
>unlock her
>realize I don't have the money to buy her

What's the best Tier VI BB, anons? I can't decide.
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128 or 150 on german DDs that get the option?
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>>163877269
Arizona
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>>163877116
No bully!
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>>163877269
Arizona or Fuso.
I've been enjoying the Bayern lately too though.
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>>163877269
Fuso
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>>163877269
Dunkerque
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>tfw it's my birthday in 4 days and I only want 30 premium days
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>Yamato
>Ships in series: 4

Uh
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>>163877637
who r u
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>>163877650
Yamato
Musashi
Shinano
Scrap
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>>163877650
Yamato
Musashi
Shinano
Unnamed keel laid down but later scrapped while under construction.
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>>163877650
Yamato, Musashi, Shinano, ???
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How the hell is Myoko balanced?She get Atago's guns minus some fire-chance with the best MM possible ,literally the only bad things about it are turret traverse and torp arcs
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>>163877712
Would you really do it if I said who I am? Nobody would believe me anyway but if someone out there is nice enough to help me and not be an ass, I'd tell you in private
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>>163877753
>>163877796
>>163877816

I wouldn't really count ships that were never completed or converted to something else prior to launching, but whatever. I guess if four were laid down, then there were four Yamato class, even if one was turned into a target barge and the other got scrapped.
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>>163872513
>terutsuki

ok memes aside

Design-wise, do you people prefer Japanese ships or American ships?

I'm all for the nips, their ships are just sexy as fuck.
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>>163877949
Poor turret rotation, reduced gun range, bad concealment. 4x3 instead of 4x4
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>>163878275
I can see why they count them, they did work on building 4 of them, even if they weren't all completed as intended.
Although what makes me curious is why they don't also count other ships like the Ibuki that did actually exist in a similar way (converted to a CV but not finished) as a ship in the series.
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I forgot to make the new thread again
I'm sorry /wowsg/, it's been a few of those days recently
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>>163877307
please respond
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>game freezes on loading
>join halfway through the game
>Nurnberg is firing at me
>pop smoke and drop torps
>the idiot keeps sailing in a straigt line when theres a DD less than 10km away from him
>eats 4 torps and sinks
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>>163878745
mosh you are a special kind of autist

>found out about 4chan via arlios in october
>thinks you're in a position to write guides and theory craft when you're mediocre
>avatarfags
>attention whores
>unironically screams "bully" when people tell you to fuck off because you're insufferable
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>>163878745
It's okay, I'm happy to make them when they pass the bump limit and it doesn't seem like anyone else wants to.
Gives me an opportunity to post cute Hotels.
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>>163879279
I don't mind mosh but the whole "posts a pastebin for the new thread" is pretty annoying Tbh
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>>163879279
That first one isn't true, I got to the game from my friend recommending
The second is mostly untrue, I added German BB's into the guides but nothing else
The next two I can't comment on, that'd be you thinking it
And the last isn't people telling me to go away, it's just playful banter, not once has anyone told me to, in the first place

>>163879438
Sometimes the new thread happens at 4 in the morning for me, so I post it in case I need sleep in the hopes that someone sees it so making it is easy
Sorry if you found it simply annoying and nothing else, anon
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>>163877949
>She get Atago's guns plus rate of fire
FTFY
IJN CAs all have the same fire chance, Zao excepted.
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>>163879596
Yeah it's just banter when people call you insufferable since you always avatarfag and beg for attention every day.

jesus christ
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>>163879279
>there are so many newfags coming in and out
>meanwhile I've been on the site for 10 years
Kill me. End my misery.
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Anyone else having issues when you click on the image but it tells you "File not found(404)"? It's been doing this to me for the last few days.
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Neorussia sounds like a fun guy to division with.
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>>163879681
every day, that's why I haven't posted since christmas eve
anon, there's pointing out flaws in the hopes that they improve, and then there's being a contrarian asshole
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Name the best non-premium money printer.
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>>163879960
Clemson. If you're not racking in 150k credits in profit a game, you're doin something wrong.
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>>163879960
Kuma
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>>163879874
ok my dude you haven't done it since christmas eve but every day before it and today

seriously go the fuck away
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What's the second hull on the Bayern even based on? The ship was sunk with her stock hull, and had no planned retrofit that I can find. Did WG just sekrit document ))) this shit?
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>>163879960
Nassau, if you don't mind how lovingly slow it is

>>163880256
sure anon, I'll just pack my stuff and leave because you told me to
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>>163880407
>Did WG just sekrit document ))) this shit?
Yes
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Hah.
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>>163881085
I hate the Kamikaze R
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>>163881085
You forgot to censor your name :)
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tfw
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>>163881085
Look how short it is compared to Iowas though.

Plus less rudder shift time and

710
1
0

meter turning radius
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>>163881489
Still same citadel hitbox)))))))))))))))))))))))
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>>163881489
>710 meter turning radius
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how the fuck do i mess with warsips today to see only my daily rate?

>>163881150
its sisters are the last testaments that IJN DD didnt used to be shit.

press F to pay respect, motherfucker.
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>>163881489
>710 meter turning radius
>better than equivalent tier cruisers
very ebin

>>163881838
it's supposed to show you daily stats but it's broken right now
>>
>in Bismarck
>shoot Kurfurst above his belt at 9km
>citpen

HOL UP
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>>163881947
fuck. i guess this will do.

how was your last week /wowsg/?

i just discovered ill take a trip friday with my family so i might not get the past ARP stage.
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>>163882259
Reminder that Kurfurst can be citadel'd by a Fuso.
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>>163880478
well that sets a precedent for other BB's in the future, like the possible RN T10 BB Lion
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>>163882328
I came back to the game for the first time since the beta and things are a lot different.
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>>163873675
>Be unicum
>Get fulltime access to her boilers and secret place
Best feel.
>>
>>163883935
You're not unicum khan.
>>
>Every Russian late tier ship is huge
I can't wait for the Russian Tier X BB that will be a floating fortress that can be spotted from space and lit on fire continuously.
>>
>>163884503
like kurfust?
>>
>>163884053
There are more Hotelfags here than just me, I don't think I'm a unicum.
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>>163884503
But Stalingrad doesn't have anything you can set on fire Anon((
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>>163884503
>Every Russian ship is a time traveller.
Gotta use those 1960s ships to fight 1930s ones.
>>
>>163879279
>autist
>>found out about 4chan via arlios in october
>>thinks you're in a position to write guides and theory craft when you're mediocre
>>avatarfags
>>attention whores
>>unironically screams "bully" when people tell you to fuck off because you're insufferable
These aren't autism symptoms or even close to it.
>>
>>163885307
Just wait; they'll introduce Slavas and Kirovs.
>>
>>163884503
T10 is probably gonna be Project 24, aka post war Sovetsky Soyuz.
450mm belt around magazines, 410mm around machinery ))))))))
Either 457mm, or 406mm. The engineers wanted 18", Stalin later restricted the guns to 16"
>>
>>163874698
>>won't post his stats
>Results of sealclubbing, RNG, aimbots and ISP shitting itself occassionally
Statwhores are really grasping for straws now.
>>
>>163885705
>These aren't autism symptoms or even close to it

Continuously posting in this general is a sheer sign of autism though, and it looks like everyone has it.
>>
>>163882328
I started playing again after release and didn't realize I could use a invite code for sweet sweet free exp. I'll have to try and remember next time I quit for months.
>>
>>163885861
interesting how soviet BB's have very few secondaries
>>
>>163886090
dont need secondaries when nothing resembling planes and DDs can pen the ship anyway))))
>>
>have to solo because no-one to play with

Suffering.
>>
>>163885982
>anyone with better stats than me cheated and got lucky
kek
>>
>>163870546
>she's fat and her dad was a fishing trawler
It's as if you don't like cute chubby shipgirls.
>>
>>163886090
4*3 180mm
8*2 130mm Dual purpose

Specifications of the 18" guns are complete wetdream

1580-1700kg shell propelled by by 620kg charge fired at 820-850m/s
Compare this with Yamato which has 1460kg propelled by 360kg charge firing at 780m/s.

Best part is, Yamato will still be king for penetrating the bow pussy, 32x14.3=457.6.
Unless WG can find sekrit documents that this gun was a 457.8, or they change overmatch mechanic, Yamato will still be king of bow tanking.
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>>163887356
Basically you have a Donskoi and 2 Khab strabbed to you as secondaries))))))))))))))
>>
>>163868549
>>feel like cancer
Why would you ? I have both langley and Zuiho and I don't care.

Btw I hope you get to enjoy cancer yourself in your life as you like to use that word as a joke.
>>
>>163867862
>Lmao so this is the dude sperging over anons playing with friends while at the same time begging for divisions in the /vg/ chat every day

Please learn grammar. You're depressing me.
>>
>>163887356
oh damn, didn't even know there were triple 180mm secondaries, I though it just had a few 4 double 130mm DP guns
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>>163866543
>Thoughts?
Get fucking good scrub. The Myogi is a fine bote.
>>
>IJN Gunboat line
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>>163886030
>Continuously posting
As we don't have id's here like /qst you can't check and are just pulling things out of your ass, apart from having no fucking clue what autism actually is.
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>>163887356
rounded up to 458mm guns)))
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>>163887356
Who needs Montana))))))
>>
Anyone know if buying boxes meets the requirement for the >open 17 boxes achievement?
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>>163888590
It does.
>>
>>163888590
You'd think it would since it encourages you to be a good little goy.
>>
>>163880407
Its based on what a reconstruction would theoretically look like had it been done.

Does that trigger you?
>>
>>163889939
No, actually I really like it.
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>>163890008
Oh good I thought we had a problem there

too bad T6 MM is fucked ;_; She's so comfy and fun and good looking
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>>163888471
This disgusts me.
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Lexington battlecruiser when?
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Welp, recieved some admiral's presents as a gift and picked myself up some on top of that today.
>Marblehead
>Arizona
>Atlanta
>Gremyashchy
>Tirpitz
>Warspite
>>
>>163891118
>american bongo

sounds like fun
>>
>>163891830
Did Jake ever send the remaining captain presents?
>>
>tfw all these anons getting great botes
>all I got was a marblehead and an emden
>>
>>163891916
I think he said yesterday that the site was still refusing to let him buy anything.
>>
>>163891937
At least you got a bote. I spent 70$ and all I got was fucking camo and flags.
>>
>>163891916
No clue, this was 10x xmas gift from the gf, and another 10x self-gift.
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>>163892101
normies get out reeeeeeeeeee
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>>163891856
American Amagi, but you're right otherwise
>>
>push a side with a fellow T8 BB in a T10 game
>"it's okay, we got a Khab and Udaloi backing us up"
>Khab managed to get himself stuck on a rock 7km behind us
>Udaloi turns around to go push him off
And that is how you make a Bismarck and Amagi very sad.
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>Get a whole lot of premiums in boxes including Atago, Kutuzov and Prinz
>Friend gets nothing
>I can't feel good like this
>>
>>163893401
I'm sure your friend is happy for you anon, I know I would be.
>>
>Update for the WoWs EU client
What could it be?
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>tfw no qt inn premium
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>>163893554
You probably won't have to wait long.
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>>163893401
>same shit happens to me and a bud
>buy friend like $30 of crates out of pity
>still doesn't get anything besides premium time and camo
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>>163893401
iktff

The RNG distribution is not fair.
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She's ok.
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>>163893554
>Wanting the inferior sister
>>
Been out of the loop for a while, does anyone have the latest stats-kun stats?
>>
>>163895540
Be careful or the kancancer fanboy will assume you're talking about the anime character and not the ship itself in a general about World of Warships.
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Wait, what?
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>>163895803
>the kancancer
>the
>>
summoning S~P~U~D
>>
>>163896625
ded
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>>163896625
>>
>>163895845
Nawlins is a gud bote

Only shitters say otherwise
>>
Official song of the thread:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RyyuDHofzUU
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>>163897272
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlxPShju39I&index=4&list=FLlVpfCH0lWmU0b-Ih13I8Ew
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>>163895803
Isn't she still inferior to Yamato, even in their game?

Either way why would anyone want a nerfed tier 10 as a prem tier 9? The Missouri makes at least some sense, seeing how her sister is the same tier as her.
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>>163897893
I don't know why but listening to that song and watching the video reminded me of SEA shitposters.
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>>163893401
>friends have 0 interest in WoWS
>the closest I can get them is WoT
>I'm a fucking Tomato without a single tank above T5
>>
What's a good T4 skill for britbongs? I'm thinking AFT, but how does that greatly help the bongbotes?
>>
>>163898384
Your imaginary friend across the globe isn't a friend, Khan.
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>>163898629
I'm one of the Texas Anons you stupid paranoid fuck
>>
>>163895369

Do you use the 150's wave?
>>
>>163898629
Are you just posting my name to random posts now?
Anyway I was a tomato all the way to T10 back when I played on SEA :^)
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name that ship
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Why doesn't Scharn have hydro?
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>>163899146
Some German thing
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>>163899168
balanse))))
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>>163899146
>187 secondary hits
>>163899365
No
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>>163899168
Why doesn't Tirpitz have hyrdo?
>>
>>163899146
Bismarck or Freddy.

Stop with this guess shit, it's just for (You)s
>>
Power Overwhelming

https://youtu.be/W7I5dJcuQ70
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>>163899793
is that you
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>>163899709
wrong. It was the QTest of the fleet, Hotel
>>
>>163899830
no its shooped, found it on a fb group
>>
I saw a video with a mod that shows the angle of enemy ships retaliative to yours does anyone know what it is or have link?
>>
>>163900337
It's called Navigator.
Right now it's out of commission, but expect an update in a few days.
For a download link, search a little harder
>>
I have a matchmaking question. I know that if I have a ship with premium matchmaking and div up with a higher tier ship, they'll pull me up. What happens if they are the same tier as me? Do I get pulled up anyway since they can see +2, or do I hold them at my tier?
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Guess that bote!

>14 fires and 17 base defense ribbons in a BB
wew
lad
>>
>>163900759
Never tested it in botes, but in tonks, same-tier non-pref MM pulls up the platoonmate with pref-MM
>>
>>163900759
>a ship with premium matchmaking
I don't think that exists. Premium ships all put up with the same crappy matchmaking normal ships do.
>>
>>163900759
The ship with the highest tier decides where MM places you.

Also,
>>163901186
>>
>>163898051
No such thing, they're all officially NA now. Stats-kun's definition is the official definition.
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>>163901475
Aren't only 2 formerly SEA players NA now?
There's still a bunch on SEA that play there and are counted as SEA.
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>tfw no qt hotel jif
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>>163901186
>>163901432
Arkansas Beta never sees higher than tier five.
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>>163901794
;_;
pls
>>
>>163901812
She will if you put her with a T5.
>>
>Finally can start on Mission 2 for Graf
This is pretty troublesome with the time limits and timed unlocks for final missions. I know Graf Spee isn't worth money but is it even worth this?
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>>163901812
Neither does any other tier 4 ship.
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>>163901932
I bet you didn't get 260 pearls to get Kamikaze, either, fag.
>>
>>163901932
The whole thing is going to take about 171k experience. You have a month to do it. That's roughly 6k per day. All post-modifiers. It's really not going to take any more than casual play to unlock. Getting it in time to finish the other campaign is a bit tougher, but still totally doable.
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>>163900858
biz markie?
>>
I have calculated that I have ground through approximately 61% of the total tech tree ships in the game.

How about you, /wowsg/?
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>>163901992
I did, but I never play her.
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>>163893401
>wanted atago
>still no atago
>got most other ships, even gremy and nikolai
>>
>>163895845
Stop carrying the other team Spud.
>>
>>163901932
Can any good goys confirm if the credit gain objectives of the santa convoy include prem?
>>
>>163893401
>all I really want is an Atlanta or maybe a Nickolai
>would be happy with 3k or so dubloons so I can buy just Atlanta
>twenty boxes later, nothing but camo.
>>
>those games where everything goes right
>>
>>163897949
I don't know, why is the Yamato the best tier ten BB despite never sinking another ship and losing the only stand up fight it ever took part in to a DE?
>>
>>163903203
Probably because it's the only real T10 BB :^)
>>
>>163903246
damn ameriboos on fucking suicide watch
>>
>lower settings to stop chugging all the time
>get 60+ FPS but everything looks ugly
using a computer from 2012 is suffering
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>>163903203
>Yamato
>best BB

kek
>>
>Devastating strike with torpedoes on a Prinz that had you spotted with sonar when you launched them
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>it's a "US DDs won't spot and you're forced to fight against 5 DDs on your own" episode
>>
>>163902412
For me, it's 76 out of 128, or 59.38%.

I'm not touching the UK CL line any more until I finish the Graf Spee missions, so that I can directly skip to the Leander.
>>
>>163903556
>It's a "All your DDs run in and die and all theirs live" episode.
>>
>>163902932
trash girl
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>just got into wows
>no chance to catch up to graf spee
>and it looks pretty cool too
>>
>>163905459
You can easily get it family, you've got a full week to do the first two parts of the campaign, then you'll be on the same foot as everyone else, the first parts are easy anyway.
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>>163903671
Are we posting trees?
>>
>>163905459
The stages for the Graf Spew event have time gated capstones. The first one opened today, the next one I dont think opens until the first? Anyway, the even goes like halfway into January, I think? Plenty of time to grind up to a tier five and do the missions. What tier are you at now?
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>>163906283
>>163905650
I'm only getting to T5 now. On second thought, I think I could do it, but it means playing just one or two lines of ships all day erry day. I'll give it a shot anyway, thanks guys.
>>
>>163907334
What server are you on?
>>
>>163907381
EU
>>
>>163907452
Godspeed then, anon.
>>
I have not doe so well since breaching tier eight. I haven't been deleted yet, but tier ten guns hurt a lot. I'm trying to abuse the spotting system, but I'm having issues hitting my targets. When I do hit, I mostly bounce or shatter. I finally tried to actually close the distance, but it only helped my accuracy/damage marginally while ensuring that cruisers and destroyers eat me alive. Oddly, I'm mostly ignored by other BBs until it becomes clear to them that I intend to brawl.
>>
>>163907334
Remember to check the dates on those capstones. I unlocked the first capstone the first day of the event then had to wait for the time gate to open. You can probably do the event and still have plenty of time to grind other stuff.
>>
>>163908036
I just wanted a mildly intense game to play when listening to music and podcasts and shit, I'll be playing way more than I intended just catching up. Dunno if I'll feel like speeding through the tasks and then doing even more grind afterwards.
>>
>>163908653
Actually, I haven't used the in game option to listen to my own music. How does it work?
>>
I've had something like 3 games in the Fletcher in a row with between 9 to 16 torpedo hits... 180-220k damage a pop, all fucking losses.

I can't keep this up. I love this ship, but sometimes you just can't carry hard enough with 'merely' solo deleting 3 enemies.
>>
>>163908745
Hell if I know, I just use foobar.
>>
>>163903973
Maybe if you start shooting the enemy DDs, your DDs would have lived.
>>
How the fuck am I supposed to use the Lo Yang
>>
>be good goy
>buy 10 boxes
>get prinz and warspite.

Why did I ever go up the RN cruiser line? German AP is so good.

I got 4 kills in my first game with the Warspite. I never found BBs that fun but the Warspite seems actually entertaining.
>>
Should I go for KM cruisers?

I'm mostly looking for Cruisers that have strong T7 and upwards, because that's where you spend most time.
>>
>>163909013
Use hydrophones and the short range, faster torps. Go destroyer hunting.

Also get deleted constantly because it seems like four out of five cruisers in this game have radar.
>>
>>163909107
But warspite is worst boat
>>
>>163909401
There need to be more ships with radar and hydro.
>>
>>163909520
I disagree, especially when they see through islands and mountains. That plus WarGaming talking about a captain skill that points to the nearest hidden enemy amd removing stealthfiring makes me worried about the future of DDs in this game.
>>
>>163909931
Who cares about DDs?
>>
Arty plotting 2 or man battery 3 for iowa?
>>
>>163909401
This is perhaps the worst boat I've played
>>
>>163910039
People who would prefer this not to become world of battleships? People who are concerned about balance? People who don't understand why WG would continuously need the weakest, most underperforming class in the game? People who just like DDs?
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>play one last battle before bed to get muh container
>off by one

JUST
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>>163910686
It is surprisingly difficult to do well in. I'm reserving judgement until I get concealment expert in about a point and a half. As of right now, my detection range is .4km longer than my torp range. Honestly, it'd be okay if it wasn't for being lit up by radar all the god damn time. The most fun is sneaking into other DDs' smoke screens and ambushing them with the hydrophones.
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Would WoWS be better if they used realistic numbers?
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>>163910767
There's still cruisers and CVs in the game. And I don't think there's anyone who mains DD.
>>
>>163911219
>CV
Who?
>cruisers
>being anything other than BB food.
>>
>>163911364
And that's how the game should be. :^)
>>
Bismarck is a comfy boat.
>>
>>163909107
>Prinz
What boxes did you buy?
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>>163909485

truely, a worst bote amirite
>>
>>163911217
Like CV that was able to launch all their planes?
No.
>>
>>163911565
I got rammed by a Warspite a few games back. Fucking Warspites.
>>
>still no crates from Jake
>>
>>163911217
We had this discussion a thread ir two ago. Realistic numbers means a single torpedo can sink your battleship, battleships have <5% hit rates, among other things.

>>163911219
I got into this game specifically for BBs. Early on though, I fell in love with DDs.
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I can never decide between PropMod2 or Steering Gears 2
>>
>>163911991
He got banned, you're not getting them.
>>
>>163912481
Proof?
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>Mutsu will have 16 inch guns at Tier VI
How shit will her MM be?
>>
>>163911991
What are you talking about? We all got ours. He must not like you.
>>
>>163912652
He couldn't gift it to 7 other anons and said he'd take care of it later. Stop trying to be a bigger retard, Lunatic.
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He was playing Atlanta.
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>>163912618
Who cares? More importantly: https://thedailybounce.net/2016/12/20/world-of-warships-some-information-from-russian-server-7/

>The developers are looking for ways of giving the IJN Kitakami to experienced players, without enraging beginners.
>>
>had lotsa fun in the Bismarck with great games
>get Friedrich
>"Oh boy, it's gonna be like the Bismarck but bigger and better!"
>...
>overpen galore
>not even using the big guns yet
>>
>>163913137
Then you're not aiming right.
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Anyone got a video of the new intro with Yamato?
>>
>>163913209
>your shells land football fields apart from each other

Uh huh, I should improve my aim.
>>
Is LordMotochika and HP_Lovesauce the biggest beggers here? Are they slowly becoming the new F22xRaptor?
>>
>>163912618
What her guns can pen, that 380mm of Bayern/Warspite cannot?
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>>163913391
>caring about players
>remembering their names
Sad
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>>163913969
Not him but those two always appear in giveaways, literally every single one. Sad!
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>>163914146
What giveaways?
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>lunatic shitposting on the forum
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>>163914936

All he does, and false flag.
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Aren't we spoiling you a bit too much?
:^)
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>>163915157
>Family affairs
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Which nation has the most fun cruisers tier 7 and up?
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>>163915510
Russia or germany.
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>>163911995
>Single torpedos sink battleships
>Scharnhorst took 11 torpedos + over 100 of hits from naval gun armament before she sunk
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How do I have better survival rate in DDs?
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>>163913534
They will probably be worse since they use Type 88 shells.
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>>163915827
Play like a coward. Don't contest cap.
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>>163915510
Germany gets better reportedly, but have fun suffering through Karlsruhe and beyond until you finally get to Hipper
Moskva is truest balans, but you have a long line of no armour HE spammers to get there
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>5x $3 boxs
>ishizuchi and murmansk

how'd i do?
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>>163916058
>unarmoured BB and good cruiser which unfortunately will face off against tier 7 most of the time.

Sorry kiddo
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I'll make a deal. Gift me ten of crates and if I get Gremy, I'll buy you 25 crates.

If I don't get any Gremy from the ten crates, you ain't getting shit back. I'll stream it.

Anyone interested?
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>>163915864
>>163915754

No love for IJN?
I played the on the test server and the long-distance HE spam seemed really boring.
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>>163916209
sent ;^)
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>>163916215
I played the Kutuzov*
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>>163916130
ok i'll buy more boxes
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>>163916209
How about I sell you my account which has a Gremy among others? World of Tanks also contains a Type 59.
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>>163912618
she has no AAA but has torps. turns faster that many t6 bbs. she might be THE sealclubbing BB for tier 6, capable to brawl and snipe as well.

>>163915847
she might still have excellent dispersion and 8 barrels, her range is second only to fusou. tbqh i dont think poor shell pen will matter as much as dispersion.
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Daily reminder most 20th century ships were lost due to fires and not heavy hull damage or critical module destruction.
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>>163911995
several dreadnought had no torpedo protection or sealed chambers to prevent them from sinking from a single torp hit. those, when hit by a torp, really have the severe risk of just floooding till sunk.

several modern bbs including some of ww1 already had compartments built in so the flooding at worse of the conditions is restricted to parts of the ship, wich would significantly slow the ship but not sink it.

tbqh shells have a 50% speed buff. why not give that to torps?
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>>163905904
Do you love the TrashKan as much as I do? This thing is fun.
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>>163916643
Forgot image
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>>163913264
It's nothing that hasn't already been shown in the Naval Legends series they do.
Ten-Go, sailing alongside a couple of cruisers and destroyers, Essex and it's 11 carrier companions shooting out all their planes, then cut to air attack.
After that, we get a suddent switch to different nationality botes fighting.
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>tfw you were about to compliment a guy bet then he started playing like a retard
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>>163916969
>tfw someone complements you and while you're embarrassed and trying to type a reply you crash into an island and get killed
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>>163903671
Leander is a good girl
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>>163915510
Similar question: which nation has the most fun cruisers on tiers 6-8?
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>>163916969
>friendly BB in need against CA
>smoke him
>starts calling the CA scum for abusing a lagger
>doesn't even thank me for the smoke
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>>163917147
tier 6 to 8 cruisers is not fun

try dds. cruiser stop being fun at tier 5. it might return at tier 9.
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>shells half the size of a DD don't instantly delete it because overpen
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>>163917107
She is, and she's why I bought Perth.
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>>163917453
Kill yourself baBBy
BB guns already delete half a DD health in a slavo
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>>163917197
>tier 6 to 8 cruisers is not fun
Literally untrue, from stealthfiring with Aoba to killing sprees with the Leander.
Cleveland is a difficult bote to play though.
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>>163917694
>and she's why I bought Perth.
You dun goofed. Perth can't contribute well enough unless she gets in sec range. Even her aa is shit.
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>>163917838
That's funny because I do amazing in Perth.
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>drop torps
>hear splash
>die
>no torps launched
>>
>CV crossdropping your BB
>oh no
>drops too close to bb that torps don't arm
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>Doing the Graf missions
>Feeling sinks over that when everyone unlocks Graf there'll be a rush to complete the Graf exclusive mission
>6v6 Graf Spees all day every day
This is going to be horrible.
>>
>>163917147
IJN:
>Aoba
>Myoko
>Mogami 155mm

RN:
>Leander
>Fiji
>Edinburgh

RU:
>Budyonny

USN
>"""Fun"""
>>
>Things that should never happen
>Be bow on in Scharnhorst against a Nagato
>Get double citadeled through the bow
>look at shell holes
>he literally hit the only flat area of the bow, twice

And my match is ruined, fucking RNG
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>>163918249
A bright time to sealclub T6 ships anon
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>>163918354
There will be nothing but Graf Spees come January 9th.
Now I'm thinking of just buying Graf and skipping that shit.
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>>163918249
>Spoiled americucks complaining

Kill yourself
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>>163917838
>I can't make Perth work
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>>163917705
>only half health
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>>163918403
Tfw I had to goy out and buy it because wont be able to play in a while.

At least I get to buy a second prem out of it and repurchase a few ships.

And get a few t6 botes out of it before I leave.

Fuck
>>
>indy loses all his planes to a RJ
>>
I'm having serious trouble actually hitting ships in my NC. Don't know what I'm doing wrong.
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>>163918249
Not really.

The middle missions can be done with any V-X ship. 30k total and 10k base is easy. Plus if you can earn 500k in one match, missions done.

I know since I bought the spee. Only used it to unlock the middle missions.
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>shoot enemy cruisers 50 times
>shoot scharnhorst 100 times
>doesn't count
ffs
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>>163918681
stop sniping faggot
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>>163918681
SLOW
ULTRA
HEAVY
SHELLS
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>I bought the Graf Spee
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>>163918681
If you overshoot: Aim where you normally would divided by 2.

If you hit behind the ship: Aim where you normally would multiplied by 2.

Eventually you get used to the shell velocity.
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>>163918919
Tungsten shell deep fried and then covered in maple syrup
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>>163918614
I would wait for the cheapest bundle in a week.
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>>163918287
didnt the mogami 155mm get nerfed?
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>>163917838
>be Perth
>casually stroll into open waters hidden in smoke for 1min plus while everyrhing around you melts
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>>163919489
it was never buffed and its bug was fixed with kraut dds.

on kraut dds i mean, mogami is still bugged. woo.
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>>163919810
its more like

>be RN CL repurposed for allied country
>dont explode
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A ship for thinking men.
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>>163920587
>apex plon remover
>notorious HE spammer
>glorious AP purger when the right time comes
>mortar arcs for ultimate shooting over isles cuntery
>unmatched DPM
Oh, say, can you see, by the dawn's early light
What so proudly we hailed at the twilight's lasted gleaming?
Whose broad stripes and bright stars, through the perilous fight
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>>163920587
not better that zao the volcano or minnie tour the rainmaker
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>>163918437
>Ass blasted Yuropoor detected

Lmao @ ur life kiddo
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fucking kikes
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>>163920587
>>163921010
>>163921018
Moskva > DM > Moskva-lite > Minoturd > Hindenburg
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Gee guys I don't think I can complete this 5k secondary damage mission on EU ,I don't have any ship with good enough secondaries ,if only I could just buy the rewards.....
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>>163919489
>Mogami got nerfed

Of course Mogami got nerfed, but that doesn't imply that the ship is a beast if you know how to use it.
100k games are not that strange.
>>
I want to sail Bismarck!
>>
Good morning /wowsg/.
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I want to fucking die
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>>163921321
Ahaha, a shitter who couldn't use Hindenburg.
Hindi is as good as Zao.
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>>163922585
Me too anon, me too.
>tfw you will never go down with your favorite bote
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>>163918249
>T6 games full of cruisers that have guns too big to hit a DD
Oh how awful that will be...
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>>163922212
Good morning anon.
Good morning /wowsg/
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>>163922915
Thanks.
Have a good day Hotelposter!
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I'm enjoying the RN cruisers...
For some reason I hate using HE
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>>163923072
I hated HE after the IJN Cruiser line
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>>163923072
Fire mechanic is broken as fuck.
I cherish the times when I can reliably use AP in Cleaveland.
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>>163922636
That's true, since the Zao is pretty shit too.
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>>163923709
>Zao
>shit
>>
What equipment for Aoba?
>>
>>163923358
HE is easy mode. AP takes skill and patience.
>>
Hotel is a badly-built slut of a boat.

The Great Chancellor is the best boot.
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>>163924156
Main battery survival, accuracy, steering, rudder shift
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>>163924309
>it's always this same guy being rude about Hotel and talking about how much more he likes Bisko
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>>163924465
Thanks, it might be a little more enjoyable now.
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>>163924568
Aoba bow is pretty good so don't be afraid to bow on meme against 14in guns - don't try this against 15in and above tho

And don't just bow on 1/4, wiggle a lot and change your speed constantly, all the while firing your memetastic 4 frontal guns every 10s
>>
>>163924309
>>163924521
Iowa is better overall anyways :^)
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>>163924238
It's also boring when you rely more on fire damage than direct damage. With AP you get that instantaneous rewarding feeling when you citadel.

With HE, it's starting multiple fires, which is far less satisfactory.
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>>163924860
Tbh you have good taste because Iowa is great too,
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>>163924881
Fire is for pissing off people.

Sure i could use AP in some cases like at less than 10km to a broadsiding baboon and it works but half the time i use HE for that fire and sure chance of damage.

Though since i got a Kutzov out of a santa crate i have been having mass fun with fire.
>>
Say something nice about a ship you loathe.
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>>163925059
Nelrod's castle is pretty nice.
>>
>>163925059
Bismarck, you're a good girl with your secondaries and HAS. I just wish your main guns weren't absolute ass and you wouldn't take full pen damage to your super structure every salvo.
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>>163925059
Yamato is a pretty good bow on sniper.
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>>163925059
The Montana sells for a lot of credits.
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>>163924775
Just had a pretty decent game. Five citadels, four of which on a Molotov who got instadeleted. Felt good man for once in this bote.
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>>163925059
Wyoming has a lot of guns.
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>>163925059
Pensacola has good guns.
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>>163925059
Yamato has nice caliber shells.
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>>163925059
Destroyers are good at scouting.
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>>163925230
I prefer Bismarck's guns over her contemporaries under 12km.
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>>163918439
>>I can't make Perth work
Seems you don't like facts, that's ok.
I at least, see my shipfu as she really is, with all her strengths and weaknesses.
>>
Say something nice about a /wowsg/ you've played with.
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>>163925727
>shoot bisko's guns at brodisiding scrub at less than 10km
>all shells hit the water
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>>163925823
>Say something nice about a /wowsg/ you've played with.
That guy from HOTEL gave me a nice chase when he ran away from me.
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>>163925535
>>163925264
Yamato is the perfect ship. If you think something is wrong then you're the problem. Keep your casual hands off QTest hotel.
>>
Dispersion buff or the ROF buff for the 3 bazillion credits mod for museum?
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>>163925059
Lots of niggers died in New Orleans 2005.
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>>163926175
What do you hate about the New Orleans?
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>>163925823
It's always fun to go Full Russian with Sandwich and rush B :^)
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>>163868909
Always loved that abyssal pic that's from.
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looks like we will be able to respec without gold
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>>163926352
well, it has no strong points. Average range, no camo, bad AA.

Tier 8 is pretty bad for cruisers anyway. BBs are generally as fast as cruisers now so you can't even run away.
German BBs just can't be light up and AP is useless against them too. Did I say no torpedoes either.
Radar is very situational. It can sometimes flush DD out of smoke but it's too short it kill it alone so it need all team shooting at that DD.
And in general heavy cruisers are not good counter to DDs.
It would be death weight for team if MM didn't put 1 cruiser to opposing team too.
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>>163927990
about fucking time
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>>163928006
And I averaged 58% wins, 2.03 K/D in Pensacola that's supposed to be underpowered too.

I played over 100 battles with NO while grinding missions and ended with 43%, 0.64. I could have suicided on start of each battle and had same winrate.
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>>163927990
any pro cvnt skill sets?
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>>163928006
>German BBs just can't be light up
They are the easiest ships in the game to hit and damage with HE if you can't set them on fire you can't set anything on fire.
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>>163928006
>German BBs just can't be light up and AP is useless against them too

is dis nigga srs
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>>163917785
>stealthfiring with Aoba
What did he mean by this?

>>163920213
What bug?
>>
how propellers are at back and ship goes forward?
Explain this atheists!
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>>163928006
Is it really that bad? I played the Hipper and liked it, the New Orleans looks like it has a nice gun layout compared to the Hipper. On the Pepsi right now and I don't think its too bad either.
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>>163930473
back to /wtg/ with you, planefag
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>>163930568
I have the cleaveland, I don't even want to buy the Pepsicola because it has worse concealment than an active volcano. I've heard the New Orleans will be spending as much time underwater as the city she's named after.

I got Jap cruisers instead. At Tier 8 Mogami is a good bote.

Spam HE at baBBies. Delete baDDies in 2 salvos. 10.5km concealment so you can top firing and cloak up like a klingon warbird even without CE. If you have to run you can shit a massive wall of torps out of your ass for your pursuers to run into.

Only downside is slow turret traverse, like Battleship slow, but you get used to that in Jap cruisers.
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>>163930568
It isn't. Ignore the ramblings of shitters whoget cold feet at the mere thought of using the Nawlins. It's got a good turret layout, decent armor and good AP. It's not great like the Atago, but as long as you play around the ship's quirks like the orbital arcs, you'll do fine.
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>>163933314
>orbital arcs
They're just the same as IJN. Nothing wrong with them at all.
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Say something nice about Melon-chan
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Well fuck you too supercontainer
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>>163934269
>melon
>that size
more like grapefruit
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>>163934269
She has a nice stern
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>Any ship of Tier VI or higher
>Conditions - In a single battle:
>Hit enemy ships 10 times with ship torpedoes
>Deal 100,000 damage to enemy ships with ship torpedoes
>Finish the battle in the Top 3 in your team by damage dealt
Thank you for saving me from the difficult Convoy missions WG-EU))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
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>>163934269
She's the cutest of all the cruisers!
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>>163881720
Going to be the Warspite of T8.
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>>163934809
easy ))))))))
just ask your BBs to shoot HE at enemy BBs rudders so you can hit them)))))))
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>>163934809
IJN DD got this easily.
>>
>>163927990
So how much did the skills change from what we got in the leak?
Why is the "reduce fire chance by 0.3%" skill still 3 points?
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>>163935852
Prove it. I give you two hours.
>>
WHAT HAPPENED TO ALL THE (YOU)'s?
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>>163936708
4chin gold account only )))))))))
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>>163936708
>not using 4chanX
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>Looking through captains to see how many will have enough points to play around with when 6.0.0 hits the live server
>10 point Nikolai captain in reserve
>wait, then who the fuck is in the NIkolai right now?
>10 points and change captain specialized in Nikolai
I have been balans)))) this Christmas
>>
>tfw Budyonny
>dat turret layout
>tweaked MM be damned, setting fires to everything with that nice 7.5 second reload anyway
>everything is melting

why is he such a good boy
>>
>>163937763
>Russia has strong anti-gay laws
>Russian ships are male
I can see how they are all just a bunch of closet fags.
>>
>>163936203
Im not on it yet, though its the only DD which can do it and i have to do the rest of the missions which i have not looked through.
>>
>enemy player in a langley says its his first match in a CV
>immediately target and strafe all his planes in one go, then do the same to his meager replacements

who /bully/ here?
>>
>>163938087
>back when fail divs were still a thing
>summarily executed every Erie in my Cleveland
>hurr I just wanted to show them what higher tiers are like

These idiots deserve no mercy.
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Why it doesn't let me activate the task?
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>>163938625
28th December 23:59)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))
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>>163938795
??????????
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>>163938623

but this guy was in t4, undivisioned.
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>>163927990
>After receiving the 19th skill point (which in the new version has an adequate cost, and not the previous 9,999,999 XP), a Commander starts earning special, Elite Experience. It can be spent profitably: upgrading other commanders, quick retraining, or redistributing skills.
This sounds too good to be true. I'm guessing it'll be like free exp and only a fraction will be usable without paying.
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>>163924881
i dont know, setting an entire ship on fire just after they repaired is pretty satisfying
>>
Why does the Friedrich's plane spawn off the right side not even attached to the catapult, you can't even see it on the ship when its ready to launch
>>
>>163939536
No idea.

For some reason Bismarck seems to have no plane in port, though I'm pretty sure Tirpitz has one.
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>>163939342
Shut the fuck up fag, I'm sharing MY story now
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>>163938056
You don't need WG's permission to get 10 torp hits and 100 000 torp damage in a single battle. If it's easy go ahead and do it.
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>>163938087
>people bitch at me for my name
>ask in all chat how to do manual drops with my ranger.
>enemy team laughs
>teammate rages.
*game starts*
>utterly devastate DDs and BBs
>Get 6 kills in the end.

itwasallaruse.jpg
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>strike ranger
>get bombers ready
>fighters fucking everywhere.
>Enemy CVs are AS Ranger and AS Saipan
Just...
>End up killing 3 ships still.
>Enemy CVs were potatoes.
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>>163940770
Friend or foe, I always make sure to mock AS CVs that allow one of their allies to sink
especially if It's me that gets sunk
>>
Sharing videos from past few days... plz no bully.

t. ussdonaldjtrump

https://youtu.be/Z-oQNJOTCWk
https://youtu.be/fK-pvTcvPRI
https://youtu.be/d5UD5jUG6wM
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>>163941090
lel

saved.
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Am I doing this right?

I wanna use this for Atago/Zao
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>>163941643
link pls
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>>163925059
kawaaichi has good secondaries and sufficient primary guns to do good in the right hands
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>>163941904
https://sea-group.org/?p=1869&lang=en
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>>163942172
>Fiery Takeoff
>Fog for the Fog God

What lovely perks :^)
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>play Scharny with secondary memes
>rush an Atlanta, a Blyadcyka, Leningrad, Kirov and a Scharnhorst
>assrape the overconfident Blyadcyka with both main guns and secondaries after having dodged all his torps
>close distance with panicking Atlanta and send shells in her citpucci, destroying her
>knife fight Scharnhorst that closed the distance in the meantime
>dodge her torps and send a spread right into her side at 3 km
>finish him off with guns and secondaries
>just a few seconds later, humiliate the leningrad that had surpassed me and was chasing me too close to my secondaries
>as i am burning and flooding get within 8 km of a broadside kirov, 1 full salvo hits thus instadeleting the soviet pest

HC, Double Strike, Devastating Strike, Confederate and 123k damage done in the most intense 5 minutes of battle i have got in the last month.
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>>163942172
danke schon.
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>>163925059
she has her moments, where with the right support you can get a lot done
>>
>>163941643

I think that On the Mark is a better skill for gun focused, for gun focused ships (that aren't overly squishy) then Preventative maintenance since how often do engines and guns get knocked out honestly? Plus, you can use upgrade slots to fill that need if necessary, but no upgrade does what On the Mark does.
>>
>>163929128

All ships catch fire the same way at a particular tier:

http://wiki.wargaming.net/en/Ship:Fire
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>>163942773
Can you show us the detailed report? Did you get 100 000 torp damage?
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>>163943393
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>>163943485
looking at this now if i didnt have SE i would have died in this match
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G7es_torpedo

when?
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>>163943865
>there were at least two unconfirmed instances of U-boats (U-972 in December 1943 and U-377 in January 1944) sinking after being hit by their own torpedo.

U-bote only too.
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>>163944054
look up the USS Tang
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>>163944054
we have napkin ships so this wouldn't be the most far fetched thing in the game
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>>163942172
>BFT is now a 3-point skill
>Can't take SI and Vigilance anymore as a USN DD

Not even gunbotes are safe from WG's ongoing DD fuckery. I take vigilance to scout out torp waves more effectively while I picket in front of the main group, and while my allies sit inside my smoke screen. No more though.
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>>163944226
>>163944608
To counter it just shut off your engines)))))))
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>>163944703
Been out of the loop, do you still need to take a skill in the preceding tier for each skill tree?
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>>163944703
To get my current 15 point BB captain to the same way he is now I have to spend 16 points now instead of 15, I don't know about this new skill re-balance
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>>163944972
Yes.

Main difference is that there are no longer T5 skills, and a bunch of T1's were made into T3's just to fuck up with people's builds.
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>>163945060
But with the patch, your 15pt captain is now a 16/17pt captain.
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Okay wait. Why can't I do the Graf Spee mission today? It says I need a third pin but there's no way to get one...
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>>163945374
just do one of the tasks again
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R8 my Hotel captain.

Disclaimer:
- I'm already running a stealth build, without Vigilance because my captain hasn't reached 18 points yet.
- Preventive maintainance still seems rather unappealing since losing important BB modules is rather rare these days.
- No vigilance since I've managed ok so far without it, and:
- Having two fighter planes orbiting faster around me should help out with torp detection.
- Haven't run the numbers on Last chance, but the decreased reload times in exchange for HP sounds rather appealing when you're already sailing in a punchbag.
- Keen intuition sounds way more helpful in active DD-killers like DM's, Gearings and russian cruisers. Basic preventive maneuvers keep me safe from torps already, so I chose to go Stealth build again with AFT for increased AA.
- Maybe manual AA instead of AFT?
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>>163945171
Ah, didn't see that, that's good to know then.

So all my 10 point captains will be a 11/12 point captain as well?
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>>163945651
>Last chance..
>10% reload improvement when you are on 1hp
No swap it for something else.
Swap it out with High Alert, 10% on BB Damage control is significant.
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>AFT is now a 5 point skill

Fuggggg
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>>163945651

>>163945171

Since it is relevant, assuming the leak was correct (as they seem to always be), a 19 Point Commander, come 0.6.0, is equal to a NOW current 15 Point Commander + 193,000 XP. So if you have a 15 Point commander, This morning, and he has 193,000 XP on him, or more, on the morning of 0.6.0 he will be bumped up to a 19 point one.
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>>163946091
I thought the new version scales with remaining HP. Did they revert that?
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>>163945651

Never take Manual AA. It only effects a few guns on ships (high caliber ones).
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r8 my burger dd build
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Bisko?
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>>163946340
Your reload reduces by 0.1% for every 1% health
That means your max reload decrease is 10%

Way better for High alert to get your DCP down on a BB, which makes you act better as a damage sponge, and it is always 10%
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>>163946643
>no ST

Going to be rough on those pushes
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>>163946275
Question is, what will happen to the excess XP on a 16-18pt captain.
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>>163946643
Best 1 point skill for BB is 2 planes.
You get 2 fighters which orbit faster, basically 5 minute of hobo hydro.
Replace BFT with SI

Remaining 5 points,
High Alert and BoS (recomended)
Or CE (for 1.5km secondary window) + Prev Maintenance, or possibly On the Mark to know when you are being focused
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>>163946905
>ST
the fuck kind of abbreviations are you using retard
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>>163946919
sounds like it's getting banked for use to speed up retraining or to convert to captain-free XP for gold
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Rate my fuck DD build
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>>163947501
ST=Superintendent

How new are you kiddo?
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>>163946267
it only need 4 points
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>every region gets free captain reset
>EU gets a pop up offer 33% discount
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>>163947736
>ST
>not Supertester
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Is there anything bad about the Russian cruisers besides armor?
Let's be honest, pretty much all cruisers can be instantly deleted if they don't angle, so I don't see how the Russians are worse.
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>>163946905
>>163947058
Improved Bisko
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>>163946919

I dont understand the question? You mean if you have a 16 Point commander today (which is approximately an excess of 40k XP) what happens to that extra 40k+ XP? It's unclear how EXACTLY they are gona handle it on live but from what we know so far it seems excess XP gets converted into what's called "Elite" XP, which, we assume (so take it for that value) is handled the same way Elite Ship XP is handled (I.E. a ship that's been fully researched gains elite ship XP) and will be convertible at a set rate. Gut says it will be the same 1:25 rate of standard XP and will likely be converted to free XP as well.

The image shown is one provided in the leak over a month ago from here:

https://thedailybounce.net/2016/11/15/world-of-warships-more-information-on-captain-skill-changes/

Again bear in mind that while it is a leak, so far they are almost 100% accurate every leak.

What we're unsure of is that if converted Elite Captain XP goes into the same pool as free XP, or a separate pool. It would be great if you could use the Elite Captain XP for free, but only on other Captains, and there is even an economic intensive for WGing to do this (as it means you could get a large number of 19 pt Captains, which means a need for more Captain Slots, which costs money).
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>>163947736
ST is Supertester
SI is Superintendent
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Would the 4 point HEAP skill benefit RN CLs?
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>>163948308
what?
how would it?
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>>163947930

cont'

The way *I* think it is gona work (so yeah, assume) is that, for example, my NC captain is a 17 pointer + about 220,000 XP right now. Come 6.0.0 he's WELL within the range to be a 19 pointer. So lets say he's about 350,000 over the 19 Point threshold. Those 350,000 points go into a separate pool of Elite Commander XP (denoted by that little Captain XP symbol in the image) I can then take that excess 350,000 points and apply it to a new Captain, and bring him from 0 to 350,000 Captain XP right away, for free. If I Wanted, I could otherwise pay 1:25 to convert that 350,000 to free XP.
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>>163948353
Never mind, HE shells only, thought it also covered AP shells
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>>163948308

Are you retarded... I mean the Belfast would sure but... can you not read?
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Here's my tentative IJN bullying burger DD build

>>163946267
>5 point skill
What did he mean by this?

>>163946585
>Expert Marksman
u avin a giggle?

>>163947917
Personally I would take Vig over HA, particularly as Bismarck has Hydro. I think HEAP might be better than MFCfSA too. I might check it out on the PT.

>>163948308
>>163948353
It will make your secondaries stronger)))))))))))))))))))))))))000
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>>163948518

>What did he mean by this?

He's retarded, ignore him.
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Nice i always wanted to kill one of these overpowered fucks
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>>163948510
Won't help the botes in the tech tree

>>163948712
Ignore yourself
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Does anyone have the VOD of the semi finals in the last season's SL?
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>>163948518
>I think HEAP might be better than MFCfSA too.
That difference in dispersion though. You would never hit a DD enough for it to matter
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HEAP is a huge unknown quantity of the new skills. Consider that the increase of the penetration of some calibres may not be sufficient to penetrate any additional thicknesses of plating. Is there a list of all of the gun calibres in the game somewhere (ideally ordered)? I'd like to make a spreadsheet which explores this.

>>163948952
The fear factor would remain though. If the increase in pen results in more damage dealt to other BBs it may be worth it.
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>first sooopacontainer
>250 15% flooding 5% det
>second
>exact same shit
>decide to swear off them for good
>fuck it, its the end of the year
>another SC from TYL
>oh god, it couldnt be a excellent end of the year, my luck wouldnt let me
>250 anti det flags
>okay.jpg
>tin can cheevo
>24 hour of prem free
and i think ill have a excellent end of the year plus ill get just enought time to finish ARP missions
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>>163949108
HEAP is not worth it.
You won't gain enough to penetrate something that you couldn't before.
E.g. 130mm on Khaba, penetration goes from 21mm to 27mm
You still can't penetrate 32mm upper plate of T10 BBs like Montana and Yamato and still rely on getting damage largely from superstructure and fires.
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>>163949569
tbqh we would have HEAP as a ammo option

if they fixed fire chances on HEAP it would work out okay as gold ammo

no raisin to have it any more valuable that a one point skill. its about as useful as EL.
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>>163949108

It's been calculated already. We had this whole thing last month when the skills were first leaked. (You guys are late to the party). BB guns (that is, 305mm and up) will benefit most from this, as it will allow penetrations on all DD's w/o Over pens (baring 410mm barrels and up, which will over pen with HEAP). Barrels 356 mm and over will be able to cit CL's up to and including the Neptune (102mm) and any armor on CA's less than 105 mm. Notice these are *cits* at that level, not normal pens. Normal pens will be possible by 405mm guns and up on all CA's including the Zao. In short, this benefits BB's. That skill, more than anything, is a BB buff.

In the reverse direction, it won't make a huge difference. The 128mm guns on most DD's will only gain a fractional amount of penetration, basically making them able to det each other far more regularly. CL's get approximately the same treatment. 203mm gunned CA's will be able to get cits on CA/CL's with <76mm of armor. The CA with the most benefit is the Moskva which gains penetration levels with HE of about 98mm. Not enough to cit most CL's but could come close.
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>>163949671
Fuck off.

Gold ammo ruined WOT just as much as shitty balancing.
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>>163949870
>Gold ammo ruined WOT
lel, shitter
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>>163949671
>as gold ammo
gold ammo is cancer
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>>163949754
HE cannot overpen, nor ricochet
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>Play Bayern
>Be only battleship on our flank
>Graf Spee and Aoba are my allies
>Have to old it against Fuso, two Bayerns, a Dunkerque and a slav DD that is cheeki breeking around the cap
>We inevitably get rolled up
>Die after 70k
>Look around
>Full health Bayern and NM are camping the base
>They pick off a warspite who can't shoot for shit and some wounded BBs but eventually get overwhelmed and die too
>They get top of the scoreboard for losing us the game

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>tfw I rp in the middle of battles
>tfw someone joins in
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>>163950058

This is HEAP, not HE. HEAP *CAN* overpen. Also HE can ricochet, rather break, on contact. Go test it yourself. Take a 5 inch gunned Destroyer and shoot HE on the side plate of a Yamato. It breaks on contact. Likewise you can get an overpen with HE*AP* because it basically has a delayed fuse, allow some penetration, and, if the ship is small enough in beam, and the gun big enough, over pens. Put exactly, the 18" on a Yamato, armed with HEAP, will overpen a Clemson. Not enough armor or distance to cause the shell to detonate inside.
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>mfw I gave in and bought the $75 Graf Spee bundle
I'm afraid I won't be able to grind the convoy missions in the last week due to a number of issues which might keep me busy.
And the 7500 doubloons, plus the 3k or whatever the Graf Spee is worth when I get refunded by the mission, are kind of nice and offset a bit the costs.
I wasn't strong enough ;_;
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>>163950501
Anon...
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>>163949108

Also, when I did the spreedsheet, I just dragged down from all calibers of guns from 1mm to 500mm in increments of 1mm. Obviously you ignore the hypothetical calibers but it made making the sheet easier.
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>>163949961
kek, scrub needs gold ammo because they cant aim.

Fucking scrubs
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>>163950376
Yeah HE shatters if it hits plate it cannot pen (i.e. 1/6th of shell caliber, 1/4 for Germany).
HE cannot ricochet (which is a AP only mechanic).
HEAP not a different round, it is a skill, it is a modifier applied to HE which increases penetration by 25% trading a lot of fire chance.
HE cannot overpen, overpen relies on 2 ingame mechanics that apply to AP only.
1) Armor being penetrated is under 1/6 of caliber
2) If armor is over this, there is a fuse delay timer (for most battlesips it is 0.033s), when this time passes, and the shell is still inside the ship, then penetration or citadel damage will occur, if the shell passes through the ship in this time, overpen, even if shell trajectory went through citadel.
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>>163949754
not all CL and CA have citadels touching the outer armor plating, HEAP in BB is not a guaranteed citpen on CA. damage is also lower that AP so no real reason to use HEAP over AP.

it also doesnt affect secondaries
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>>163950934
>>163950934
Does this mean HEAP will be good on 203mm? (especially germans)
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>ishizuchi
>danae comes up for some retarded torp run
>fire HE and break everything
>uses damage control, turns to run away
>fire HE again and break everything, plus 3 fires
>mfw
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>>163950934

Except that's not how HEAP will work. Also you *can* OP with current in game HE, as it works mechanically the same way (fuze wise) as AP. You can test this out yourself. You can get underwater shatters on the side of a ship with HE. It must land VERY close (a meter or so) to the ship but it wont just detonate in the water, you will register the hit. This shows they do in fact have a very short fuze. If it has a fuze, that means time of impact + fuze time exists. If that time is > that the time it takes to travel through the ship's hull, it over pens. As it stands, no ship has a small enough body to cause this, however given the higher Penetration values for very high caliber guns under HEAP, 410mm guns and up will overpen MOST DD's in the game (math was done prior to the specs of German DD's).
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>>163951281
>Except that's not how HEAP will work.
Source?
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>>163950376
thats just armor inutilizing the HE round.

HE has a fuse that needs to be contacted. if the game would be absurdly realistic some shots of HE on the ~10 degree angle would bounce because the fuse was not activated.

i cant find anything on HEAP. i think im confusing it with HESH, but im certain that HEAP isnt capable of overpenning like AP.
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>>163951107
no because anything it would pen, HE would also pen and would have better fire chances

quite literally its a baBBy skill since it doesnt affect secondaries. akisuki could use HEAP, so would many 100mm and 127mm secondaries
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>>163951396
not him but ))))))))))) coding suggests HEAP will indeed be HE with added pen and less fire chances.

it would be really nice to get HEAP as a regular ammo.
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>>163951396

It was in a leak post on either the Bounce or SEA, at least a month ago.

>>163951492

HEAP will overpen, in VERY isolated cases. Only 3 ships in the game currently (YamCan, KF, and Izumo) will be able to cause OP's, and only on DD's. That said, HEAP will benefit those three ships greatly as well, as they will be able to side cit most CA's in the game with ease. They may end up being more reliant damage dealers against CA's than AP since OP on a CA will be impossible for even the biggest in game guns.

Alot of people are calling these skills overall a nerf to BB's but a few of them will be HUGE buffs to BB's, least of which is HEAP. CL/CA's are who suffered the most as few, if any, of these skills will directly benefit them in a way in which they were not already fine in (For example, many have Radar/Hydro that helped with DD detection anyway).

Worth mentioning, these calculations were done at 90 degree angles.
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>>163951107
Your pen goes from 50mm to 63mm with German HE. Not really worth it imo in trade of massive Fire penalty

>>163951281
There is no fuze delay on HE in the game. It explodes on contact regardless of angle or armor thickness.
The only calculation that is done is if HE pen is greater or less then the armor it is in contact, if yes pen (or citadel) damage; if no, shatter.
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HEAP should overpen

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armor-piercing_shell
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>>163951902
I don't see how you say it will overpen, when HEAP skill doesn't change fuze timers, it only changes HE pen and fire chance.
If you do penetration damage to Shimakaze now with HE, you will still do penetration damage with HEAP
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>>163952192

As long as the gun is <410mm, yes.
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>>163952189
That isn't HEAP.
All of the AP shells ingame are technically APHE, since pretty much all naval armor piercing had bursting charges for more interior damage.

That is what is represented by the penetration/overpen mechanic in the game with the fuze delay
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>>163950773
That just won't do!
desu I'm wondering if I should've done this backwards, i.e.: as a function of plate thickness

>>163951072
>it also doesnt affect secondaries
Where are the proofs?
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>>163951945
>There is no fuze delay on HE in the game.

Yes there is. It's 0.00105 secs.
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>Start on the new DD line

Christ, it's like seal clubbing

Those poor BBs don't even change direction after getting a whole torp salvo up their sides
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>>163952504
And does HEAP change that?
Because that is what will make HEAP skill overpen DDs.
But if it is the same, it doesn't change anything, you will still do penetration damage as you would without the skill.
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has anyone even tested how HEAP works on the PTS then
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>>163952801

No, everything we know so far is from leaks. We'll know for sure tomorrow afternoon when it goes on the testing server. Getting a training room slot is gona be a bitch.
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>>163918287
I-is the Cleveland fun at least?
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>>163953565

>>163953565

Clevelands okay, but the range nerf from when they altered AFT hurt it hard, as it's buffer range of sighted/range is very low and basically necessitates a 15 pt commander with CE. Likewise the huge flight time can be a pain.

That all said, she's the best USN CL/CA at tier other than the St. Lo. Every other CL/CA is eclipsed, at tier, by at least 1 other countries CA/CL. Overall the Aoba is better, but in a very minuscule way and requires a very different playstyle. And the tankyness of the Cleve makes up for other shortcomings.
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>>163950934
Wait so German HE will pen more armor than other HE?
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>>163954065
Yes, 50% more for the same caliber
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>>163927990
Just because they changed the name from Keen Intuition to Radio Position Finding doesn't make it any less cancerous. Basically means that unless the other player is a total potato, ambushes are impossible. Even from around islands.
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>>163954026
>Implying Louise isn't outclassed by Bogatyr
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>>163954026
Good to know.

Right now I'm on the Omaha, which I am enjoying but I wish it had a little bit more survivability. I do like how it is very maneuverable though, and the guns seem accurate (plus I like the look of the box turrets; they're cute). Maybe the B hull will help some.
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>>163954307
I found St. Louis to be more fun but to each their own.
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>>163954267

Okay, do people not get how this works? Cause the leaker explained it like 2 weeks ago. KI doesn't SHOW you the closest enemy on screen. That is. a DD with concealment at like 12 km doesn't pop into view instantly. It shows up on the minimap in the same way as ships spotted beyond your sight range do but are spotted by other ships (hollow symbol, commonly seen during storms). It just means you will know WHERE it is, you won't be able to hit it reliably.
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>>163954750
What about the post you replied to suggests that he didn't know what you posted?
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>>163954750

further thought;

KI will hurt CA's WAY more than DD's, since CA's rely on sneaking up, either for torp runs or to rain fire from a safe hidden spot, and often stop to do so. This will make targetting them SUPER easy.

These skills benefit all classes in the game, other than Cruisers.
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>>163954924
fuck baBBy
I'd unironically upvote if I had account
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>>163954065
Is this valid for german BBs or also CAs?
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>>163956119

Dude it's 6% more. Look at the max pen and add 6%.
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>>163956119
AFAIK all German ships have German HE, with less damage but more pen, and German AP with low Krupp but higher damage.
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>>163954862
A cruiser is rarely the closest target though.
I'm assuming this skill just show the position of the closest target but i don't remember if that's correct.
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>>163954924
Torps are cancer anyways. get fucked baDDies
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>>163956472

I does but in a BB, getting rained on by say a Kutz is infuriating and yes, usually it wont be the closest, but often times it is and this will go in a far way to help.

The other way this update hurts is that CA's rely on Fire to do damage and DE is being nerfed.
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>>163954924
The way radio position finding works is that it highlights the sector of the map the closest enemy is in. There's no longer even an arrow pointing in their direction. If they nerfed it any further they'd just have to completely remove the skill. though that might be the best option. But it remains to be seen if it's worth giving up other tier 4 skills for.
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>>163956321
What does this has to do with my question?
>>163956337
Strange, i have a lot of HE shattering in my german cruisers, though can't say if it's more or less than the other nations.
Russian HE is probably even less reliable on this regard, but it racks up a lot of damage due to fires.
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>>163954924
>muh torpedo soup fun
>muh high skill long lance gameplay
>muh shimakaze
>how come DD's can't go back to the easy, lazy, afk gameplay days of early release?

lmao
git fucked baDDies. I'll keep laughing over here from my 70% WR gunboat DDs
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>>163956647
>DE nerf
Didn't hear of that, what are they changing?
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>>163956869
At certain ranges your shells impact at angels where they will shatter even against 'unarmored' parts (25 mm steel).

And many German BBs have a deck that is essentially immune to plunging HE shells.
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>>163956869
Russian HE is a bit weird because they have CL guns long after everyone else gets CA guns, so you're going to get a lot more shatters but just more hits in general.
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>>163956612
>>163957016
God, why is this place so full of shitters who cannot avoid torps?
The most dangerous threat for a BB is in fact, another BB, except rare case where CAs can spam without being focused or DDs can sneak really close unnoticed.
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>>163957052
Dropped from 3% to 2%
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>>163954924
BaDDies BTFO
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>>163957327

>the most dangerous threat for a BB is in fact, another BB
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>>163957521
Welp, i will be getting 14 fires instead of 16 per match.
Not so dramatic after all.
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Post kill count
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>>163957851
Yeah, stats don't lie, unlike baBBies perception.
The first cause of damage to BBs is other BBs AP shells.
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>>163957521
Source?
Haven't seen that mentioned.
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Hm

Looks like I underestimated the Königsberg
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ok CAsuals
give me a skill tree using the new skills for Moskva/Zao/Minotaur/Hindenburg/DesMoines ASAP
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>>163957521
BULLSHIT
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>>163958605
see>>163941643
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>get prinz
>no reason to go down DE CA line
>get Indy
>no reason to go down USN CA line
>get Atago
>slight reason to go down IJN CA line(zao sounds p good)
Is this what I get for being a good goy?
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Does anyone have Lunatic's fake edition of stats-kun chart
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>>163958516
>>163958842
https://sea-group.org/?p=1869&lang=en
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>>163958605
This is close to the generic TX CA build we have currently. There are a few swaps you could make according to preference. In particular, you might swap DE and PM for Keen Intuition (or whatever they end up calling it) if you plan on going DD hunting.
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>>163959963
>Preventative Maintenance over Two is Better
Explain?
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>>163958972
Now anon, you use those ships to get free exp, then you buy some doubloons to convert it to go down said lines, make sure to buy some more prem, while your at it pick up some flags from the prem shop to get you started, also don't forget some prem camo for ships either, a wise investment indeed my friend :^)
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>>163950501
If I were you I would have at least waited till January 2nd for the $50, but that's just me, you might have WAY more disposable income than me.

Hope you have fun with Graf anon
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>>163960114
2*0 = 0 buddy
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>tfw WG banned Jake from gifting more crates
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>>163950846
>I just had to aim at your general hull to kill you
>You had to aim at my weakspots that I wiggle around to further throw your aim

>A-at least I can do this really easy aiming thing!
If it makes you sleep better you shitter. Aiming isn't hard, but maybe it is for you. At least your e-honor is intact too.
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>>163960139
I literally have over 4000 signals, and over 1000 camos, but thanks for the advice merchant I will keep it in mind
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>>163959963
I'd take BFT over preventive maintenance and last stand, considering i rarely get my rudder or engine disabled
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>>163960524
Explain further
The only T10 CAs I couldn't find catapults on are the Moskva and the Minotaur. Do T10 CAs just not have access to catapult fighters for some reason?
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>>163960904
Only Zao and Hindenburg use float planes.
Des Moines has to give it up for RADAR so literally no one uses it.
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>>163960798
>your e-honor is intact
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>>163960904
Generally you get the spotter plane.
I take spotter plane my hindenburg even though i have range mod installed.
Setting fires at the match start is useful to piss off baBBies and makes them waste a heal early on.
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>>163961014
>>163961110
Right, thanks.
I wonder what the appeal of Two is Better is, then? Is it supposed to be a BB skill?
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>>163950501
Anon no ;_;
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>>163961381
I have yet to understand if the planes stay in formation or if they rotate in two different positions.
The latter could be useful to have a better coverage of torpedoes.
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>>163946461
It would actally be helpful on the Yamato since it has so many of them and the rest of its AA guns are shit
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>>163962890

I still wouldnt take manual AA, not when there are infinity better skills at tier 4 for a Yamato.
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Fuck nagato. What a piece of shit.
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Got her!
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>>163963237
It's a shame too, I'd like to take it on the new skills to actually get some not-terrible AA, but between CE, AFT, and Manual Secondaries there's not really any room to.
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>>163963338
Haruna pls, you are just a shitter.
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>Drive in a straight line
>Teammate crashes into me, full on T-bone, three times
>Calls me an idiot

Boy I sure love this game.
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>>163963491
kek
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>>163963491
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>>163963338
If you don't like Nagato, Amagi is gonna be tough.
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have some OC
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>>163963412
>184,567,453 credits
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Uhh, I guess this is supposed to just be a single module?
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>>163963338
Dude git gud lmao
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>>163963412

>510,000 free exp
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>>163963954
Why don't you have 500k+ free XP? Are you not a God like Abrach at this game?
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>>163963338
Possibly best tier-for-tier battleship in game
>piece of shit
Lol OK.
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Why isn't I401 showing in port
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>>163963857

It's 50

http://wiki.wargaming.net/en/Ship:Honorable_Service
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>>163963338
Fuck you, you stupid gimp.
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>>163963857

BTW if you're just going for pipes (and don't care about the particular rewards, the 3000 XP in a single match is the easiest to get. It counts modifiers so if youre on prem time you can get it on a loss with a 100% camo + flags. For me at least that final stage was the fastest stage to do.
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>>163964559
>module isn't plural
>turns out it's 50
Good job WG I guess.

>>163964702
That's all I'm going to bother running. That and probably the 500k damage one. Shouldn't take too long.
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>>163963338
type 88
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>>163964419
They ended the collaboration, we won't be getting any more ARP stuff. ;_; goodbye Yamato
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>>163963954
I have 600+ free exp lying around, but he's got me beat in credits though
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>>163963530
>>163963703
>>163964661
>>163964997
I wonder who could be behind these posts.
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>10 $3 crates
>atago, prinz and lo yang

I'm done with this game.
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>>163963338
>not being able to do well in a great ships
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>>163965201
Sell account. Make profit.
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>>163964943

I did it in 4 matches, getting 3000 xp after modifiers is a joke, especially at tier 8. That said, you're gona be disappointed in the reward boat. It's got 8km torps and the turrets are fucking powered by snails. It plays like a stock (current) fub. The 11 pt commander is quite frankly more useful.
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>>163965105
Not shitters?
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>>163963412
I WANT TO CUM IN THOSE POTATO TURRETS!
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>>163964145
Nice cropping. Are you afraid of being made fun of for being an autist?
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>>163965575
Please anon, i don't need bullies in my videogames too.
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>>163965389
I don't even care desu, I have plenty of good T6s to play already and I just like getting another nice looking bote for free. The free captain will be nice to have just for when I get further down the IJN DD line anyway.
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>>163965575
People with money is autistic... you sure got us poorfag.
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Which Russian line is the meme-tier fire starters?
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It's not a bad commerce raider.
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>>163966201
>67k
I get that in T4
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>need daily bonus on Akatsuki
>do fucking five games where I top the scoreboard with around ten torp hits each and around 70-100k damage but lose each time because of retarded team mates
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>>163966201
That pretty poor, actually. Don't tell me thats the best you can do anon.
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>>163966359
I was more highlighting the credit earning instead of how little damage I did.
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>>163966538
I'm not as good as you Abrach, please don't mock me ;_;
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>>163966690
>non Hotel picture
>Abrach
That's not how it works.
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>>163966538

can you consistently pump out 80-100k in a t6 cruiser, luger?
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>You can now launch 2 fighters
How butthurt is Anu?
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>>163967663
REEEEEEEEEEE/10
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>>163967663

Its always been 2. Now its three. Just get Air supremacy.
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>>163967663
Anu believes cruisers have 15 km AA range. He won't notice more fighter planes.
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>>163967536
Sometimes I cant, sure. But those times I don't post results on the thread.
>>163966690
Not Abrach famalan.
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>>163967950
>>163966538
Graf is garbo
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>>163967950
You mean you can't at all. There's a reason why you always want to be in a division.
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Why is the amagi such shit like holy fuck this thing is awful

the only thing it has over the NC is that its slightly faster and has a 10th shell

but the accuracy is ASS, the range is ASS I don't care if the NC has slower shells this thing is ASS
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What ship is the best for farming citadel hits with a T4 ship?
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>>163970570

That Nip Premium BB
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>>163970570
Wyoming.
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>>163970691
>>163970698
Ok, serious advice please
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shes back goys, sexist, misogynist bullies pls go..
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>>163970563
>but the accuracy is ASS
It has better accuracy than the NC.
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>>163970759

>wants to farm Cits on a T4
>serious advise only guise!
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>>163970885
who?
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>>163970563
Have you upgraded it? The grind is real, but once you get there it can work some magic.
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>>163970972
No it obviously doesn't because this thing can't hit shit at sub 9 or way out to 18

it hits max dispersion so early on its ridiculous. Something is obviously up because I get WAY more hits on all sorts of shit with the NC than the amagi
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>>163970885

Just fucking put the bitch out of her cumslut misery.
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>>163970885
I wonder who's behind this post.

You're a creep at this point.
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>>163971138
If you can't hit anything at those ranges the problem isn't the ship. Her accuracy is great once you get out of the stock hull.
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>>163971105
I'm on tier 2 hull

seriouisly 18km range is awful for T8
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>>163970885
I have no idea who that is. Why should I care? Should I care? Probably not.
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>>163971267
I'm out of the stock hull and I'm on B hull now and the accuracy is still way worse than NC
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>>163971319
>tfw too American to understand what's so good about a table with a heater under it
I will never be a true weeaboo. I just like cute anime girls
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>>163971415
Once you get the range module after C things get good. Engine helps too. I have mostly 100k+ games with me cruising around taking shots along the way. Nearly no one will focus you and you can keep the shots raining down. Sub 15km you feel like a sniper.
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Sara premium after CV fix, please.
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>>163971812
too late just sold it, amagi a shit
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>>163963530
Apparently Haruna is a male name in Nigeria.

The more you know.
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>>163971783

Imagine a table you can get comfy at and always be warm at.
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how was your grind today /wowsg/?

how are your end of year plans moving?

now shown, a detonation that took me to green on the next game
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>>163971415
I don't know what you're doing wrong then.
I have no trouble landing salvos in mine, it's probably my favorite main battery in the game because 10 x 41cm and it's accurate as fuck, and I don't like fighting at +20km anyway.
It's just stupidly accurate compared to the NC.
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What website do we use to measure stats now that wowstats is down?
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My experience with the Hatsuharu after the patch
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>>163972079
>>163972431
https://na.warships.today/

its not working that well but it still track your stat
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>>163972085
I just tried to fire at a bismark at 12km and it just missed SO many shells it was unbelievable how many spashed before and went way over
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>>163972431
warships.today is working fine again now
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>>163972480
german DDs are kinda like that too
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>>163972079
I had a shit morning and played like a total potato while in a div
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How I get good?
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So how the fuck do you farm free XP? Seems even with premium it's like 100 per match or so.
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>>163973057
play gaem instead of funposting

im the cancercolle anon and i can attest it works
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Am I getting good? What should I work on?

https://na.warships.today/player/1015093942/Mike1Juliet
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>>163973179
new year camo, papa papa flag, daily first wins
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>>163973179
Premium, +100% XP camo, FWotD, ESCL, PP
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>>163973473
stop playing mid tiers
secure more kills
give up on babby cancer and attempt to learn CVcking
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>>163973779
>stop playing mid tiers
what is a mid tier? I've been playing more T7 and T8 because those are my highest

>secure more kills
?

>learn CV
no I don't like to play CV its a totally different game
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>>163973181
>i can attest it works
Alright, sempai.
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New Thread!

>>163974002
>>163974002
>>163974002
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>>163972079
Not bad, but had connection problem while playing dds
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