XCOM General - /xcg/

pistols are useful

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It can't be...

>>163858984
Fucking Fag Leng, GTFO my spess oprah.

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next /vg/ cup when?

>>163859807
half a year probably

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Hey I cleared the first deck haha. I'm not confident I'm going to survive the next stage.

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>>163862065
I have 10 soldiers left, 4 KIA, 1 wounded. Unlike the first level, I think I'm down to only close quarters which is going to be a nightmare, and I'm not familiar with ship map layouts at all. Time to put my best foot forward and hope for the best.

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Archangel Armor WHEN?!

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>>163862886
>press f10 to save a first person screenshot
What the hell

>>163863408
Never ever, flying is no longer a mechanic.

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>>163864579
So apparently openxcom extended is experimenting with a function that takes a screenshot from your selected soldiers pov, though it only shows basic geometry right now. Kinda cool I guess. Maybe eventually it could look like Doom screenshots.

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Hey, recently i remebered a blast from the past, namely Soldiers of Anarchy and i just realized how much its like xcom: small team on commados like missions, base managment between missions, inventory fuckery during missions, with the added cherry of vheicles you can jum in and out of, capture if you are lucky. (Pic related is minutes before the final cutscene, but holy shit i cant even man 1/5 of these things, and normaly having 1-2 of these is gg), all in glorious russia area post apocaliptic tone (Entire world is fucked by a virus, 6 chumps hole up in a bunker then after 10 years reemerge to gauge the damage) with multiple endings and chocices taht change missions.
It even has a scriptable mission editor.

After replaying it (with the patch that adds a pause function), aside from the atrocious pathfinding, it holds up pretty well still. I would recommed if you are looking for something xcom like.

TL:DR: Soldiers of Anarchy, anyone knows it?

>Go to recruit new soldiers
>Two frenchies available
>Both black
NICE GAME XCOMBABS

>>163865130
lmao who cares

>>163862886
Using explosives in the tight confines of this ship is dicey, but I don't have much of choice. I'm taking casualties, but I'm also been slaying away a good deal of ayys. Maybe I can make it. The good news is that it turns out that I can use the sonic canons I find on enemies since I researched it, even though I haven't researched the clip yet. Pretty useful since the pack a punch, but they don't have auto fire unfortunately. Probably should have gone for the rifle.

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>>163858984

Nice thread theme.

>>163865946
>Captain Crunch
>Good theme
howaboutno.exe

Never liked how you didn't had a choice on what to make your rookie, any mod that allows me to choose?

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>>163865620
>tfw no medkits

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>>163867621

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>>163868048
Welp, finished the boat. That was ugly. Good news is I got a live Tasoth squad leader which I believe means I can start working towards psionics. I lost at least 4 of those soldier to fatal wounds, so I definitely need the medkits.

>>163868815
Good month, though Austrailia is still crying. I have a base being built down there, but it's not finished yet. I am also getting very few mission, which is a bit worrying. I could use the extra cash and experience from some other missions that aren't cruise ship nightmares.

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>>163869576
Yet another cruise line terror ship. I gotta admit, I actually had fun in the last one (been awhile since I was actually scared I wouldn't be able to complete a mission), but I don't have the heart to do another taxing two stage mission again. I'll come back to it later. It is now month 5, and things are going pretty well I would say. Unfortunately, I discovered I knew to research a live terror unit before I can get psi, so I guess that is my next goal.

>163821708

No, sadly, had to enable the console and type GiveTech mechanizedwarfare after i did gatecrasher. Or something like that. If you need more details I'll try harder to remember.

I started playing X-COM 2 for the first time.

>my soldiers in X-COM EW take a plasma shot to the face
>walk it off and a day in the spa and they're fine

>my soldier in X-COM 2 graze their knee
>gravely wounded (shaken) 29 days

At least it sorta solves the problem with my A Team just doing every mission because they're the best and I have no reason to build an entire B Team. But I tried the Vahlen mission and all I had was a scout with PTSD, Central and 3 rookies. It didn't snek so good. I think I'll leave that til later.

Vahlen deserved her painful death

>>163870657
>implying
Anyway, for most dlc missions it's recommended to at least have gauss just so you know.

>>163871048
Maybe if she didn't want to get pooped out by a big snek she shouldn't have been playing with their genes.

>>163871201
>implying

>>163871201
Joke's on you, vore is her fetish

>>163872572
So she was a deviant as well as an idiot? At least she died the way she wanted.

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>>163872572
>>163873420
Degeneracy aside, is X-COM 2 going to get an Enemy Within type DLC?

>>163873762
Expansion? Yes, maybe. There's been no official news besides some hints at release.

Any mod to make Kevlar armor pieces work like mods where you can use them as props?

Is this acceptable difficulty for Grimy's Loot?

Also, suggestions.

>>163874525
Forgot link
http://steamcommunity.com/id/Blaximus/myworkshopfiles/?appid=268500&browsefilter=mysubscriptions

Finished XCOM 2 for the first time today, that final fight is a clusterfuck.

It ended too soon, is there any long war-esque firefight and geoscape length enhancing mods?

>>163864767

M-Mods will fix it!

Guys, how do I stop playing XCOM? Every time I start a new game I'll get maybe 2-3 hours in before it loses my interest, and then later I'll contemplate starting another campaign. Do I have autism? Is it love?

Anyone played the console port of X2? Did it fix any of the performance issues it had at launch in Feb?

When are done jerkdicks gonna port Ana from Overwatch to XCom 2?

>>163874647
we cant look at your subs unless you make a collection and share it

>>163881965
the hell is that
I see reapers, lids, and bio drones

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Whats under the mask /xcg/?

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>>163882836

>>163882223

DeviantArt

Anybody ever played Apocalypse? I got it on Steam for stupid cheap. Can't tell what's going on yet.

What's the worst mission that you have completed?

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>>163888507
You tell me senpai
AHHHHHHHHHHH

>>163888507
pretty standard but I beat a night terror mission in openxcom with zero casualties.

>>163888507

Having EXALT swarming you early on and only having a couple of operatives (and the covert agent) surviving the mission.

>>163886954
Yea I played it a bit. Haven't sat down to finish it, but if you have some basic questions, I might be able to help. I know at least one anon here finished it.

>>163888507
Well I just finished that TFTD cruise liner, that was pretty rough. But probably one of the toughest missions I completed was an early game superhuman landed battleship vs. sectoids. Just laser rifles and personal armor. I probably would go with that one considering I squad wiped in the same campaign on the same mission later on.

Should I buy:

XCOM: Enemy Unknown

XCOM: Enemy Within

XCOM 2

or

XCOM: UFO Defense?

>>163891131
Get x-com and XCOM EW on sale for sure. If you enjoy XCOM EW, you will enjoy XCOM 2.

>>163891131

All of them. But Xcom2 is probably more bang for your buck since it has a modding community. I don't remember if Enemy Within is standalone or if it needs EU, if it's standalone get that too.

>>163891131
XCOM: Enemy Within (with unknown included)

then

XCOM: Enemy Within with long war

then

XCOM 2

>>163890936

Do you know any good guides for just the first steps to take? I feel like there's probably some crucial stuff you have to do early game to avoid it biting you in the ass later.

>>163894730
Ehhh, I'm not that familiar, but if you go to ufopaedia.org there are three different beginners guides on the apocalypse page.

I need your guys advice. When I played Xcom I barely got far before I stopped. Then I jumped back on with mods(long war, skins, tweaks, etc). For Xcom 2, should I play it vanilla first? Or can I just get and install the mods I want to help customize the game to how I want it to be played?

tldr: Play xcom 2 vanilla or mods first?

>>163898478
I'd say mod the hell out of it, especially if you like customizing soldiers. Find quality of life stuff like Evac All and that free-rotation camera mod.

Additional Mission Types mod hurts like hell in my experience but can be fun if not stressful.

>>163898687
I kind of wanted to get the ODST mod and weapons. Are there any gameplay mods that help enhance or build upon the concealment stuff? I kind of want to recreate the feeling of Halo:ODST where you are a weak soldier that has to sneak around the bigger and tougher enemies.

Also in general, what are some good QoL/Tweaks mods that you would recommend that you have not mentioned already?

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>>163888507
Hacking a Work Station for me, had to to do it while replacing 3 dead A-Team members that got bodied by the Snek King
City Tile Set, sneaking along the edge of the building to a window that would have the angle for the hack. There was no hard cover on the street and other side of the road was the map edge.
>"Wow I hope hacking this thing wont break concealment" - me
Concealment's gone and I shit you not 4 pods wake up, 2 at each end of the street and a dropship was called down on my position. Spent the next 5-ish turn fighting off what.. 16 guys? Which by the way had almost permanent flanking shots, thank fuck I had Smoke Flashes and Medic Specialist. That Specialist died in the end, went out reviving and healing the rookies and corporals I had to take along. My first Colonel, pic related, that's him after hacking the work station.

>>163898940
guerria war might be a decent place to start ask again when more people are on

>>163901025
Just so I have some background info, do you mean this mod? https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=669383499

>>163891619

This is the correct order.

>>163901818
Generally stealth in XCOM 2 is focused on one single scout character, while your squad moved up behind him. You COULD try and sneak past enemies to get to the objective, but then you'll be surrounded by them when they're alerted to you. If you want to fight a more difficult enemy thatn ABA 2 and Additional mission types
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=647242867&searchtext=mission
make the game much more threatening. Also check out class mods for some real stealth classes, either Paragon Classes or Shadow ops

>>163901818
yeah its a start if you need to you can edit its settings in the mods ini files

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>>163882836

My hard drive recently died.

Post your xcom memes and webms.

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>>163906220
shit post from the battlefield

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Best ayylien

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>>163906628
wrong

>>163864767
It can't even be modded in? Can't Archons fly already? I can understand, flying was rather clunky and not well done in EU but come on I still liked it

>>163911143
Archons and other "flying" enemies cannot end their turns in the air like in EU, they just get unobstructed movement. Blazing Pinions is just special.

>>163910578
>Shocking imagery of XCOM Terrorists opening fire on ADVENT Peace Keepers as they escort Alien Dignitary's through a City Centre

>>163910578
>>163912215
>sectoid looking in through the window
That squad is obviously trying to find women's changing room to peek on them. The person on the roof is just chasing away the perverts.

>>163912215
I dont feel safe in my own home anymore did you see the death toll after xcoms last terror attack.

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>bought xcom:ew through the sale
>reached a mission where we had to extract a vip
>almost on our way to extraction site; only things standing between vip and site are two thin men
>put vip behind full cover; head down
>thin man somehow lands ohk on vip
>mission failed, no reward, panic goes up

So THIS is the true power.....of XCOM....

>>163913576
sounds about right when ever dealing with thinmen

>>163913372
>>xcoms last terror attack

In the end we didn't get those kind of missions (and the Ayys keep theirs somehow...) but we cal always bring 3 Grenadiers to town anytime so its a wash.

>>163913576
tfw they don't tell you that vips and civs have a hidden -1000 defense stat
break los

Anyone experienced with armor modding know how much is too much, poly-budget-wise?

>>163917257

Pretty sure it says what the budget they used was in one of the pdfs that came with the sdk, or you could compare it with the armor from the game in whatever program you're using. I don't remember off the top of my head.

>>163917887
Ah, I didn't realize there were PDFs included. Time to redownload the SDK.

...See you in a month.

>>163918350

Well i checked, the pdfs don't tell you the poly budget, at least i didn't find it. I can tell you that an advent stunlancer is 7,446 tris though. Not counting the face, eyes and so on, just the armor.

Is this gen now ded-er than pre-X2 LW era?

>>163861226
actually chuckled

>>163862886
Jesus christ with all those boxes that looks like a nightmare

>>163867621
Sad!

>>163868048
What the fuck is that?

Are ADVENT burgers only available to ADVENT officers or do they sell it to civilians too?

>>163923540
Tygan wasn't an officer and still got some, so they seem to be available to civs.

>>163923540
Getting them must be easy since Bradford complains about finding too many of their wrapping papers hidden under the command consoles.

What changes would you make for the next XCOM game?

>>163925286
Make it actually optimized

>>163925286

Optimization. I'm pretty happy with Xcom2, i just want more of the same, more aliens, more customization, more mission types, more weapons, more maps, more, more, more.

The only other thing would be a better strategic layer but i don't know how to make it better just off the top of my head.

>>163925286
>BRUTAL AI.
>Items loss from death.
>Pods that are weaker has 5-6 units.
>Pods that are stronger has 2-4 units.

>>163925286

Every pod leader has ruler reactions.

>>163925286
Prox mines need a turn to arm after they're planted

Alright /xcg/ balance idea:

>shots can't crit through full cover

Thoughts?

>>163928642
I like it, but it would need upward number tweaking on Ayys aim.

>>163928642
If the shot crits through high cover, instead of dealing extra damage make it break the high cover into low cover.

>>163928939
Oooh, that's even better.

>>163928642
Beagle it's been years.

Accept that Frag died to a full cover crit and move on.

>>163928939
>Take a shot with a basic pistol against an enemy near a high cover
>Pistol crits
>A pistol shot destroys half of a wall somehow

>>163929507
That's XCOM, baby.

So I got Xcom: EU and EW since the pack was out there. What journey I'm jumping on? What I know is that rng will prefer miss chance over hit chance.

>>163929649
EW is EU with some shit added, it's not a different campaign or anything. There is no reason to play EU

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All right folks. What did The Bureau do right? & what would have made it a better game in your opinion without scrapping it entirely?

Is there a mod to summon reinforcements? Like if some of your guys get downed you can shoot a flare or throw smoke and they arrive droppod odst style?

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Why are ADVENT news anchors so good looking???

I really wish we get a non-covertly-evil ADVENT invasion IRL, gene-modding is good stuff.

>>163935828
We could develop gene modding, we don't need aliens for that. Just m-muh morals and m-muh experimenting on people is evil that stops us from progress.

>>163929507
You can already blow up gas stations with a pistol, being able to destroy the walls of a landed ufo with a pistol or a sword is the logical next step.

>>163929875
didnt play it i cant really comment

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>sectoid makes my soldier panic
>in her panic, she shoots and kills the sectoid
>its face when
That's XCOM, baby.

>>163937223
And then only the rich or connected people get them, because capitalism.

>>163938359
And then it gets cheap and everyone can get it. That's how progress works.

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>>163938605
Yeah, because basic healthcare in the USA is becoming cheaper by the year, right?

>>163938667
Well I thought we're talking about 1st world countries aka Europe.

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>>163938359
>>163938605
>>163938667
>>163938816

>>163938816
i dont know about that

>>163938667
Thanks Obama.

>>163938816
But Merkel is turning Europe into a 3rd world continent.

>>163938990
>someone paid money for this asylum demon knock-off

>>163941202
I would try modding it as a Muton if it was a 3d sfm model

>>163941352
Is it fairly easy to get stuff from sfm in xcom?

>>163941697
Googling says it's so, never done it myself though

>>163942243
THIS MEANS WE CAN GET DOOM SHIT

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Bradford will be president in XCOM 3.

>>163942727
Nah, alcohol poisioning will get him before XCOM3 starts

>>163942727
>he's been swallowing Meld to become stronger
TRY UNIVERSITY OF TEXAS

>>163942913
Shen will transfer Bradford's consciousness to Avenger's AI when he dies.

>>163942913
>implying he doesn't instantly revert to his former sweater wearing persona immediately after XCOM 2

>>163922902
It's a pre-historic dinosaur with twin mounted sonic canons. Fortunately it's not really that hardy and goes down to explosive damage pretty easily.

>>163929875
I actually kinda like the squad pause control function, even if it's mostly straight ripped Mass Effect. I think if you expanded on it with some birds eye view perspectives and more squad mates, it could actually be pretty good, sort of like Apocalypse real time, but you have the first person view available. The main thing though is that the Squad mate AI needs to be significanlty improved. Either they need to put in alot of effort so they aren't constantly doing dumb shit and getting themselves killed, or make it so they don't do any big actions without you telling them so that they actually stay in the cover you put them. Maybe toss in some larger battlefields with lots of cover so that their is actually more than one way to position during fights.

>>163942727
We already took a vote on this, and the Councilman won by a landslide.

>>163944487
>councilman
>alive
anon...

>>163944572
>councilman
>dead
anon...

>>163944572
Wrong

>>163945170
>>163945395
i saw him die with my own eyes

rip shadowy baldface

>>163944572
Optimus Prime comes back to life all the time.

>>163945543
No you didn't. You saw him maybe get grazed. You saw him die the same way the Speaker "died." I'll be waiting till they produce a body.

>>163944572
>councilman comes back
>but his fight with ADVENT left him crippled and near death, so he's now hooked too his own floating wheelchair/life-support system
He get's to keep his voice, though.

>>163945743
Yeah but they have all that fantastic medical tech.

Are we at least agreed that Lily Shen shouldn't exist and Robo-Shen would've been better?

32 campaigns in and I still haven't won
I think my biggest problem why I suck at Xcom 2 is that I was great at EW, there's quite a difficulty/bullshit gap between EW and X2
EW
>you can be slow moving or even stationary and it's a viable tactic
>overwatch traps and hunker effective
>less bullshit from the aliens
X2
>even without timers you have to keep moving and wasting turns
>overwatch traps aren't as effective and hunker is useless
>aliens like to insta kill +12 critical your guy who are in high cover hunkered on higher elevation from across the map

>>163945839
Sure, but you have to unplug him from his life-support to apply it and he dies to quick to heal him with it.

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rip

>>163904336
>>163904120
When reading the pastebin of all the recommended or advertised mods, I don't think guerilla war was part of it. Are the mods not compatible with it?

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>>163946094
Whos responsible for this tragedy ?

Is it more effective to take countries as your able to or wait untill a facility pops up and grab the ones on the way there?
Half the time I grab a country 90% of the time a facility pops up far away from me as possible and im out of relays and power

>>163946819
Grabbing sectors should be pretty much always tailored towards getting to the next facility. I think they are also set to always sqawn a certain distance away depending on difficulty.

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>>163946094
pir

>>163946819
That could be because of your facility building priorities. What mods are you using, on which difficulty you're on and on which order are you building faciltiies?

>>163946504
those xcom extremists have done too far

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>>163946027
Git gud
>>163946819
Try to capture whole countries if you can but wait for facilities to pop up to start going other countries
It's why starting in the US is easy but starting in Russia is a pain
Taking north and South America opens you up routes to half the map, Russia is the opposite
>tfw I start on Russia almost every single campaign

Lily is cute. CUTE.

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>>163947341
She's not, and that's the worst part about her.

>>163946424
Also as a side note, taking objectives break concealment? Is there a way or mod that prevents that? Even a mod that adds a silent hack perk to hack things without breaking concealment?

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>>163947436

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>>163947687

I know the mod is out there but I can't find it so I could use some help
It's a mod that lets soldiers gain more and more exp in missions past the first promotion

>>163947939
>It's a mod that lets soldiers gain more and more exp in missions past the first promotion
I'm not sure what you mean

>>163948389
Soldiers can only be promoted once per mission so what this mod did is that if your soldier gained enough experience for two promotions in a single mission they would be allowed both promotions instead of being limited to one

>>163948541
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=785522241
Got you senpai

>>163948628
God send anon

>>163948628
I didn't even know I wanted this mod. Thanks anons.

>>163920564
the general couldn't even sustain itself pre-LW era, all you had were threads on /v/ from time to time. when EW came out /xcg/ came back for about 2 months before fizzling out for another couple months when LW betas started releasing for EW.

i'd be posting and playing a lot more if my rig wasn't on the brink of death, EU being a toaster-tier game helped its audience reach a lot.

XCOM 2 seems to love giving successful, 24% through heavy cover shots to the enemy.

Is the game just that much of a dick or is perfect info lying?

>>163950363
Might be an issue with some mod. In my current campaign both aliens and my soldiers have missed 100% shots. No graze, just miss.

>>163950363
24% isn't 0%, maybe you're just unlucky or there's some mod conflict. Does it always say 24%?

>>163950765
>>163950672
No it can be 20-40. And yeah, it isn't 0 but the consistency of it is annoying.

Red Fog doesn't seem to be working right for aliens either as it didn't affect the aim % of a Advent grunt who was at 25% health.

Holy shit, all the civs on the first retaliation mission were replaced with faceless. I don't know what I changed in ABA2 to get this result. Anyone had similar happen?

>>163951078
Wait no I know exactly what it might be

Not Created Equally gave two of my guys -6 & -8 armor and some other mod was conflicting with showing that in the roster.

I guess there was some internal calc that makes lower aimed shot hit when defense is so low.

>>163951078
Yeah, I can't really give you any advice other than try to get good activations. If it's too early in the game for conceal assaults, buy a flashbang.
>>163951709
<0 defense should show up in aim calculations though.

Just saying, in XCOM 3, you should be allowed to recruit aliens.

>>163953060
only if they`re qt ayys.

>>163929875
I stopped playing when I lost control over the protag. It just felt like a big fuck you from the developers, somehow. So change that.

>>163949836
All I knew about back in the day (pre-April 2015) were occasional /tg/ threads (since I didn't frequent /v/). Then someone mentioned /xcg/ in a /tg/ thread and I was thrilled. Two months later, XCOM 2 was announced, and this place exploded in activity. It died down a few weeks after XCOM 2 was released.

It was on the brink of death a few weeks ago; I have no idea what revived it. Steam sales?

>/v/ is snek posting again.

When will it stop?

>>163953464
That's like, the best part.

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>>163953734
I hope never

>>163953492
it was 50% off during Black Friday and the current Steam sale, so yes. anecdotally i know 3 people that just got it for Christmas. i think a lot of people are just waiting around for an expansion right now, like i said, EU discussion didn't last long, it only got sustainable when LW betas started for EW and beagle was peaking in popularity.

Was just crit through heavy cover by a Stun lancer who had a 24% chance to hit. I couldn't see the crit chance.

What the hell? Is this ABA2?

>>163956227
It immediately happened again but I caught it this time

Heavy cover, 13% chance to hit, 2% chance to crit, hit for a 5 crit. On the second mission. This is fucked up.

>>163956382
13 and 2 are not 0. If this continues, uninstall mods one by one until it's fixed.

>>163956382
>i'its wasn't 100% 100% why did it hit ;-;?
fuck off

>>163956510
>>163956465
Children. Why would I expect any different

>>163953734
When we give them free Skyranger rides

>>163956382
XCOM 2 hit rolls hit and crit at the same time. That means when there is a 10% to hit 2% to crit, it it hits then 20% of the time it will crit.
In other words, don't get hit. Also 13% is not 0%, get used to it.

>>163956382
THAT'S
XCOM
BABY

>>163959228
Thanks. That's a huge difference from EU. I'll have to experiment to see if I should change it or not.

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>>163870486
I really want to know why these ships are all packed full of highly flammable/explosive material

>>163962085
Maybe their back up plan was to ram the ship into a city and blow it up.

>>163962894
But these are civilian ships. It's not like the aliens are stocking it.

>>163963047
Oh whoops.

>>163962085
I took 4 KIA clearing the first deck again, so 10 soldiers for the second deck. Still feeling more confident since I'm packing the sonic canons which have shown they can take down bio-drones in one hit. Also I lost two men trying to capture an ayy, so I was doing better in the first stage as well up until that point. Time to clear the under deck.

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>>163963580

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>>163963740
Also looks like a lucked out and got a mixed crew, so some of the tougher ayys have been replaced with whimpy aquatoids.

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>>163963883
Just had a chain reaction of explosions go off from stray alien fire somewhere midship. It took about 30-60 seconds for all the explosion animations to play out, and then an unknown amount of aliens and civs died once it was over. Seriously, what are they packing on these ships?

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>>163964326
Poor chap, I doubt he'll make it.

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(worry)

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>>163964604
Aftermath of whatever they had down here that went off like a powder keg.

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>>163965165
Still pretty ugly, but only 6 KIA vs. last mission 10 KIA, and a better score to boot. Another Cruiseliner or whatever the hell this ship is has been secured to limp back to port, not much more than a burnt out husk.

>>163966143
Also picked up a live terror unit, so that will definitely be useful for advancing my research.

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>>163966280
Second base is finally up. Hopefully I can figure out whatever the aliens have been up to here that has made Australia so unhappy.

>>163966509
My research into the Tasoth squad leader and a live terror unit is yielding its firsts fruits. Time to get the psi ball rolling.

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>>163966775

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>>163966962
This looks serious. I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure a ship like this is going to have tencaluts.

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>>163967153
Unfortunately it landed opposite of where my main base was so I couldn't reach it. The Aussies aren't gonna be too happy. In the mean time though, some good news.

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>>163967797
Another good month, but the Aussies are still pissed. Looks like I'm gonna need a Down Under B-Team.

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>>163967994
Another Cruise liner. Sure wish the game would generate some other missions to go on. Oh well, think I'll go on break again.

>>163968362
Ouch

>>163959986
There is actually a mod that uses EU rolls for hit and crit.

I'm not 100% sure how it interacts with dodge now though.

Why so many people complain about Alpha striking in XCOM 2 but not in XCOM EW?

What makes it different?

I do recall alpha striking in EW as much as i do in 2.

>>163969801
Alpha striking is more important in 2 due to how injuries work, mainly that soldiers will get hospitalized for a few days for even 1 point of damage while wearing Warden armour. Usually that won't matter too much since they'll be up and running in time for the next mission but god damn it.

>>163969801
Alien ablities, wound times, and mission timers. A good example would be the stun lancer. In EW these guys wouldn't be that big of deal, sure they could wound a guy now and then, or even knock em out, but really not too big a deal.

Now in X2, a stun lancer hits someone, and if it's a rough mission, that turn stun could mean you don't complete the objective in time, or you don't evac in time. Even worse, he could just completely knock somone unconsious, which once again in EW woudln't be a big deal, but this is X2, so you are in a rush. Same thing for sneks even, they have similary posion as thinman, except now every mission is like a bomb mission where mobility and moving fast is essential. Not Alpha striking also means you aren't moving through the mission as efficiently as possible. It all kind of adds up.

But I do agree that alpha striking is nothing new, and still the dominant engagement method in X1. However, if you didn't think you could wipe a pod, you actually had the option of falling back and hiding, or hunkering everyone for a couple of turns. Can't do that in X2 because you always need to be advancing.

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worst thing is that the granadier was the one in the middle of shit most of the time

>>163973592
seems like you got off lightly considering the wounds

>>163973592
Everyone knows Refrigerators grant explorers immunity to all harm

He's Indiana Jones in disguise

>>163929875
Keep it like it was originally going to be, this weird non-linear X-COM squad shooter.

>>163961015
>Be ADVENT Trooper
>Captain Kag'lont asks for volunteers for light body guard work
>Brain implant Volunteers me and I eagerly ask where I'm going
>Some environmental scientist types need some cover from local wildlife while they do their thing
>Arrive on scene and start my patrol
>Walking along a rock formation something smashes into your armour throwing off the ledge
>Last thoughts as you fade out is why the grass is turning Orange

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>>163973592
>two sharpshooters

>>163976829
Rest of my squad was injured as well and the terror mission just happened after I did the Vial mission
Really missed a proper vanguard

guys.

guys.

where's teh ayy lmao mod for EW:LW? it's not on either pastebin

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>>163983682

wait wat

What's that?

>>163984895
the Scope mod for the SVD, for some reason it's using this awful model

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>>163986276
>>163984895
>>163983682
Well I'd be damn
I thought it was just some weird bug but it's a real fucking scope
It ruins the gun apperance so bad

>>163983682

That's a big scope.

Just bought XCOM 2, installing now.

Is the general consensus to play the game vanilla, then replay with a shit ton of mods after?

>>163989223

Yes.

But the general consensus is WROOOOOOOOOOOONG. Just do whatever you want, if you still want to have a "vanilla" experience for whatever reason then i recommend you look at the OP modlist and look at the quality of life and cosmetics options at least.

Who should I put my first EXO suit on? Who uses it best? Should I have my entire team in one?

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>>163906220

>>163929875
I'd play the shit out of it if it was the normal XCOM gameplay in the same setting and technology. A lot of the early heat on it was because people wanted another XCOM game not a spinoff, it isn't that bad actually. The levels are a bit linear and there isn't actually much to do in them other then move along though.

>>163976576
Xcom cant keep getting away with this

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>>163906220
>that moment when my hard drive could die any minute
I should backup my meme folder.

Question about "Improved AI" and "A Better AI". The pastebin does not say it but do they stack or do you have to choose one over the other? If so, which one do you guys recommend?

>>163990135
Whoever doesn't need their second item slot is a pretty good candidate. Honestly anyone can use them well. I do tend to put my spare ones on rangers.

>>163996109
Get yourself an external drive and go to town. It's also nice, because once you are done, any computer you are using is kind of your own computer. I know it just saved me big time when my laptop hard drive was failing.

>>163951181
It's because humans have already gone extinct. Everyone is a faceless now. Even Avenger crew.
Bradford saved the commander just so the ethereals could take bets on how far he will get.

>>163997678
Then why did my scanner ball only reveal one of them....

>>163989416
>>163989223
I always support vanilla (gameplay) first, because then you actually know how the game plays, and what you want to change for your second campaign. It also gives you a point of common reference to relate to everyone else.
Until a game is mature enough where the community has really nailed down exactly what changes are just a straight improvement, I think heavy gameplay modding is a pretty bad idea. Can't fix what you don't know isn't broken, and likewise things that may on the surface be unappealing might actually be really solid or core parts of the game that shouldn't be modified or removed.

>>163997808
The faceless made the scanner ball obviously.

>>163996704

That depends, if you use A better Advent 2 you don't need either(ABAI now comes with it). If you don't use A better advent 2 then just pick one or the other. I play with ABA2 so i guess i recommend ABAI.

>>163998382
I've tried using ABA2, but so far it's been nothing but a headache. Some mods require .ini changes because they change reinforcements and ABA2 overwrites them. Some missions in the additional mission types mod needed changed because of mission schedules and now all my civs are faceless all the time.

I'm sad because ABA 1 was really good, but now it just seems to refuse to work.

If anyone can explain why retaliation missions are bugging out, I would be really thankful.

>>163998937
>Some mods require .ini changes because they change reinforcements and ABA2 overwrites them
You don't even need to do edits, you just delete some parts of ini. I have shitload of enemy mods and it didn't even take two minutes to make them compatible with ABA 2. Can't talk about additional mission types though

Does anyone have a link for that early stages xcom eu?

Those with the mid-turn shot-trading and all.

>>164000278
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8ke_Wv8UIU

>>163999985
It's a few lines. I got missions and reinforcements working just fine. Couldn't figure out this faceless thing though and it's killing the mod for me. LW Alien pack doesn't have these issues.

Using only a handful of the enemy mods that needed changed, a few cosmetics and quality of life mods and the LW mods aside from Alien pack. I can't figure out what is causing this shit. Nothing in Additional Mission Types changes retaliation, nothing changes force levels aside from ABA2.

Wait a second. Didn't the author NERF the retaliation missions because he added more enemies with the default settings. Are you using the default .ini for pods, because I used the reduced one.

I will laugh my ass off if there was an error in that .ini about the changes he made for the retaliations.

>>164000441
thanks famalamagamadamasama

>>164000675
how would retaliation missions work if everyone you tried to save was faceless

>>164000931
It doesn't. After the first civ was killed, there was no one left to save. At first I just thought that I had gotten unlucky with a faceless off the bat, but then I noticed there was only one real civ by the count remaining.

I honestly can't believe that I 'beat' that mission. Seven faceless by the end of it. I wouldn't have beat them if I didn't have that gas grenade. But yeah, he changed it. He added 3 more civs. I'm guessing something glitched in the .ini file between an update and I didn't refresh them.

Going to try this shit one more time. Hopefully it works or I think I'm just going to wait until LWS comes out with the strategy layer mod.

They hinted what they were doing with that yet?

>>164000441
I will always think that mid-turn firefights would be amazing.

>>164001481
Yeah, though I also get their point about how it would have looked really confusing once you have six dudes and then all the ayys all firing back and forth. Add that on too overwatch and suppression, and you get a pretty confusing skirmish going.

>>164001187
Ok, this is still weird. Does anyone know how the game handles putting faceless in Terror missions? Because looking through ABA2's config on how it changes pods, there is nothing there for faceless that spawn in these missions. Just the ones that come in the last mission through the psi gates.

So strange. I can only hope it was config weirdness from disabling and enabling mods and that a regen will fix it.

>>164002227
>you get a pretty confusing skirmish going.

Yeah stuff like supression or overwatch would fuck you up.
t would've been super cool though. It would give it a feeling of actually fighting battles instead of super complicated chess where all the pieces have shotguns or plasma rifles.

Playing with ABA2, Paragon classes, more mission types, and base squad size 6

The only missions that are difficult are the more mission types missions, how do I make every mission as intense as those?

>>164004085
Increase the number of enemies in a pod

>>164002272
Yup, that fixed it. Thank god. I think ABA2 handles things a bit better then LW alien pack and didn't want to switch.

No idea how the hell .ini files could have done that to all the civs, but it happened.

Maybe tommorow I can finally have fun with this shit instead of wondering why my game is shitting itself.

>Reinstall Xcom2
>Install loads of mods, but nothing that changes actual missions
>Get to the first rebel base attack
>"Okay time to go save people and kill Faceless"
>Start off with 7 people instead of 4
>No people to save, just says evacuation in 11 turns
>Every turn another new private appears on the bridge under my command
>Have like 11 people now and enemies just keep dropping

What the shit? What happened here and how do I fix it? Did one of the LW mods get rid of the missions where you run around saving people? I really liked those missions...

>>164007829
Try reading the descriptions of the mods you install next time

>>164008012
But I did.
I only installed map packs, voice packs, clothing and LW stuff.
None of them said anything about completely changing how missions worked.

>>164008240
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=647242867
>Haven Siege - The local resistance fighters has managed to hold off ADVENT in time for XCOM to arrive, but have been whittled down to their last line of defence. Hold off ADVENT's siege long enough for the non-combatants to evacuate. Any surviving fighters will join up with XCOM afterwards.

>Afterwards, you can try to secure the area after denying ADVENT their goal, or you can just evac the area right afterwards.

>Effectively an attempt at bringing over EU's style of Base Defence as a mission type. The reinforcements will come whether you're done with the current group or not, and you got a whole bunch of enemies you're going need to deal with at the start. (Starting missions should be around the low 40s.)

>The turns required for 2 pods per every other turn and the number of resistance fighters on Haven Sieges can be customized in XComHavenSiege.ini.

>>164007829
>Says nothing that changes actual missions
>Describes a mission type from Additional Mission Types

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>>164008365
>>164009614
Fuck

Is there a mod that stops the prevention of swapping characters once you've selected a move that will trigger a pod?

Every time my Tab button stops working I get a minor panic attack, and it ruins the surprise

>>164010748
Even if there was one you still wouldnt be able to move, besides mashing tab in rage and fear is part of the appeal

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>>163986276
>>163988247

Some people just want to go over the top.

We need a mod which integrates an assault rifle into sniper rifle's scope as a weapon upgrade. And gives the regular aim bonus you get from attaching a scope.

>Legendary Ironman run
>First terror mission
>Kill first pod ez
>Second and third pod are right on top of each other and get activated through a wall
>Also an infiltrator that was behind an entire building that I couldn't see decides to activate
>Runs to my dudes and takes a swing
>Every tree within 10 squares just explodes
>My dudes who were all previously in full cover are now in the open

This game can be silly on occasion.

You shouldn't be able to put scope on minigun desu, doesn't make any sense

BATTLEFIELD 1 PORTS WHEN

>>164018659
I'm more interested in DOOM demons as enemies.

>>164018659
I want Sims ports. I just want more customization

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Consider
>Class restrictions on weapons and gadgets removed

Dark Souls dogs as a pre-stunlancer melee enemy.

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I offer up my prayers to the Armorbro, in the hopes that he hears my plea...

Metro 2033 ports when? Weapons and armor would be awesome.

>terror mission
>flashbang a civilian at the end of a fight, thinking he might be a faceless
>turns out he is
>the faceless isn't actually flashbanged
>he easily reaches my team, swipes a dude beside a car and kills 3 units

alright then

ded thred

>>164022901
get scanners, you get 2 charges and it reveals faceless

>>163976829
>not running a 2 sharpshooter, 3 grenadier, 1 ranger team

>>164024640
>no healer priest
>no mage
shit comp

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>>163997678
Genius!

>>163997808
Scanner balls don't actually work, one Faceless just chooses to play along every time you throw one to keep up the charade.

>>163997664
Are external drives as fast as internal drives now? I had one a while back but it was USB 2.0, and also it died before any of my other internal drives, so that left me with a somewhat dim view of them.

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=829018562
I haven't use that mod so I don't know, but doesn't Instant Avenger Menus do this already?

Is there any reason I wouldn't be able to revival protocol a stunned soldier? I have LoS and a medikit use still. Is my game just fucking bugged? Because now I'm going to fail a UFO assault (Xcom 2 BTW) because I can't revive the guy who can reach the distress beacon. This is ironman, soi can't restart :(

>>164028958
Kill your dude with grenades and hope he doesnt die or just say fuck it and accept your losses.

>>164029095
So a grenade hit will remove the stun effect?

>>164028958
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=821147079

>>164029272
You will hopefully kill him and make him bleed out and then you will be able to stabilize him and carry him out of there

>>164029387
Fuck, I would have been able to stop the beacon and win the mission if not for this.
>>164029278
Thankyou, but I'm on ps4

>>164019323
>Everyone gets grenade launchers

If I make an ini change to a mod, do I have to restart the game for that to take effect or would going to a mission and returning to Avenger make it active?

Page 10.

>>164030339
Restart game

First time xcom 2 player here. Did the berserker royal glitch or is it supposed to stand still and die after 1 turn? I launched an ice, acid and incendiary bomb at it and it didn't even move once or attack after it thawed out.

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STOP RIGHT THERE COMMANDER!
Show me your infiltration unit

>>164035636
>goofy hat
>goofy glasses
>goofy face
He looks like you just asked him to lick your asshole

>>164035636
I didn't know X2 had Latvian flags as a customization option, that a mod?

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>>164036367
It doesn't, I got a bunch of customization mods

>still no face packs for X2

All this samefacing. X2 is anime.

>drop $40 dollarydoos on Dishonored 2
>drop another $40 on Titanfall 2
>buy half the stuff on my wishlist because Winter Sale
>still playing XCOM:EW

Somebody take this from me

>>164038892
>Having your soldiers face uncovered in the middle of a war with ayliums with noxious gases and shit.

Sasuga

>>164039282
None of the aliens wear helm, it can't be that bad

>>164039282
Lancers and Troopers where helmets and are the easiest to kill. Pectoids and sneks don't where any headgear and are a pain in the ass.

>>164039601
Yes, the old Gears of War and Warhammer rules of survivability. No helmet = important dude = more survivable.

>>164039895
>>164039601
It's like a red shirt in Star Trek.

Fuck Gatecrasher.

>>163925286
Twenty man squads like the original

How 2 kill archon king w/o repeater?

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Unused Psy ability: Pyro-Kinesis

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>>164043521

Did the LW team ever made use of this?

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>>164043521
>>164043679
Yes

>Beta 15e (June 20, 2015)
Stood up Pyrokinesis perk, a level 4 psi perk. It allows you to ignite fires over multiple tiles anywhere within sight range.

http://ufopaedia.org/index.php/Psionic_(Long_War)

>>164025447
>Are external drives as fast as internal drives now
I have no idea, but mine is USB 3.0 and for just backing up all my files, pics, music, vids, etc. it is definitely very satisfactory. I guess it depends what you want to do with it. Sometimes I play old games off it like Masters of Orion 2 or x-com.

>>164043521
I never figured out what the hell lighting some tiles on fire would accomplish. Is it a mini flamethrower?

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who else /power rangers/ here?

>>164044128
Enemies cannot move over tiles that are on fire.

>>164044128

Flush them out of cover.

>>164044245
>>164044319
Oh ok

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>>164044149

>no black ranger

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I've just started playing XCOM 2, is there a way or mod to see the biome / environment I am working in before I deploy my squad for a mission?

BUREAU PORTS WHEN

>>164046325
.http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=626291285
I think that the Uniform Manager comes with this feature. I believe it is just what you are looking for.

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>>164045651

>>164053398
life after xcom is rough

Just bought Enemy Unknown. What difficulty would you all suggest for a first playthrough?

I've played some other TBS games, but I'm no strategic mastermind.

>>164054652
Classic.

>>164054652
normal is a good starting point
but eventually you will want to go to classic

>>164055254
So start at Normal and then bump it up to Classic? Or just flat-out start at Classic?