Ace Combat General #275 - /aceg/

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1st for slav shit best shit

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>half want to sperg out and do a bunch of edits to wikia
>remember registration for sites is a pain in the ass.
>remember it's lead by an egomaniac and all wikis are bureaucratic nightmares that appeal only to those with a deep sense of nostalgia for the USSR (but much like formation flying in a sim, where depth-perception is restricted-to-gone, much worse in simulacrum than reality.)
A deep seated need to be useful in combination with not being particularly bright or creative and a refusal to mire oneself in egotism are not a good combination of events. Balancing the soldier route is tedious.

Abandon Hoffnung. image kindly sourced from wikia :^)

>>163835310
wat

>>163835498
"Wikias (including the AC one) suck, even though in theory contributing to one would be nice, therefore [i] abandon hope."
(As you'll remember from German classes nobody actually takes, "Hoffnung" is "Hope" in German, which was the symbolism of the whole burning it to the ground thing in AC:0, where the war turned from being essentially a good defensive war to a more morally grey one.)

Consider it boredposting.

As a thought experiment, I made up an Ace Combat prequel set in the Strangereal equivalent of the Vietnam War. Except there's 3 sides so you have American planes, European planes and Russian planes from that era.

>>163834891
>Ports never (ever)
So, the multiplatform possibility statement is a ruse, then?
http://gamingbolt.com/kazutoki-kono-on-ace-combat-7-xbox-one-not-closing-doors-on-multiplatform-release

>>163836038
It's probably a PS4 timed exclusive.

When will they port AC6 outside of 360?

>>163835982
There're some people as well on AC wikia who tend to reply with "just wait", "no point in guessing now. Be patient", or other similar shit.

>>163836132
Yeah, even if it doesn't come to PS3 I'd still remain hopeful of it getting a remaster alongside the Holy Trinity to current gen consoles and maybe PC as well.

>>163836232
Fucking AC3 Electrosphere remake when Namco you fucks?

>>163836029
Here's not-South Vietnam. HAAM is Heavy Anti Air Missile. It's like a 1-hit kill missile with bad maneuverability, like an AIM-4 Falcon.

F-100D Super Sabre
Weapons - RCL(8), UGB(8), GPD(8)
F-104S Starfighter
Weapons - SAAM(8), RCL(8), HAAM(8)
F-8E Crusader
Weapons - RCL(8), AGM(8), SAAM(8)
F-105G Thunderchief
Weapons - UGB(16), MPM(8), FAEB(8)
F-5E Tiger II
Weapons - QAAM(8), GPD(8), AGM(8)
A-6E Intruder
Weapons - LASM(8), UGB(16), LGB(8)
F-106A Delta Dart
Weapons - HAAM(12), RCL(12), NCLR(4)
A-7E Corsair II
Weapons - RCL(12), AGM(8), MPM(8)
F-111F Aardvark
Weapons - LGB(12), FAEB(8), LASM(8)
A-5C Vigilante
Weapons - NCLB(2), UGB(12), FAEB(8)
F-4E Phantom II
Weapons - SAAM(12), UGB(12) MPM(10)
F-14A Tomcat
Weapons - QAAM(16), XMAA(8), XLAA(8)
F-15A Eagle
Weapons - SAAM(12), QAAM(16), XMAA(8)
F-16A Fighting Falcon
Weapons - MPM(10), QAAM(16), GPD(12)
A-10A Thunderbolt II
Weapons - XAGM(16), LGB(12), MPM(10)

>>163836029
Not-North Vietnam. NCLR, NCLM and NCLB and Nuclear Rocket, Missile and Bomb.

MiG-19SF "Farmer"
Weapons - RCL(8), AGM(8), SAAM(8)
Su-7BM "Fitter"
Weapons - UGB(8), RCL(8), GPD(8)
MiG-21bis "Fishbed"
Weapons - SAAM(8), UGB(8), RCL(8)
Su-15TM "Flagon"
Weapons - SAAM(8), HAAM(8), GPD(12)
MiG-23MLD "Flogger"
Weapons - HAAM(8), UGB(8), SAAM(8)
Su-17M4 "Fitter"
Weapons - UGB(12), MPM(8), LGB(8)
Yak-38M "Forger"
Weapons - UGB(8), RCL(8), LASM(8)
MiG-27K "Flogger-J2"
Weapons - RCL(12), AGM(8), FAEB(8)
Su-24MK "Fencer"
Weapons - NCLB(2), LASM(8), MPM(10)
MiG-25P "Foxbat"
Weapons - SAAM(12), GPD(12), NCLR(4)
Su-25TM "Frogfoot"
Weapons - LGB(12), XAGM(16), FAEB(8)
MiG-29S "Fulcrum"
Weapons - QAAM(16), XMAA(8), AGM(10)
Su-27S "Flanker"
Weapons - SAAM(12), QAAM(16), XMAA(8)
MiG-31E "Foxhound"
Weapons - SAAM(12), MPM(10), XLAA(8)

>>163836029
Not-Laos/Cambodia.

Super Mystere
Weapons - RCL(8), UGB(8), AGM(8)
Lightning F.6
Weapons - HAAM(8), UGB(8), RCL(8)
J35J Draken
Weapons - GPD(8), SAAM(8), HAAM(8)
Mirage IIIE
Weapons - SAAM(8), RCL(8), HAAM(8)
Super Etendard
Weapons - AGM(8), LGB(8), LASM(8)
Mirage IVA
Weapons - NCLB(2), NCLR(4), AGM(12)
Mirage F1C
Weapons - SAAM(8), HAAM(8), MPM(8)
Harrier GR.3
Weapons - LGB(8), QAAM(8), AGM(12)
F-1 Kaizen
Weapons - LASM(8), MPM(10) QAAM(8)
JA37 Viggen
Weapons - QAAM(16), AGM(12), XMAA(8)
Mirage 2000
Weapons - XMAA(8), SAAM(12), MPM(10)
Tornado IDS
Weapons - XAGM(16), LASM(8), LGB(12)

>>163836029
Superweapon planes.

YF-12 Blackbird
Weapons - XMAA(12), XLAA(8), NCLM(2)
XFB/001 Mercurius
Weapons - NCLB(2), NCLR(4), NCLM(2)

>9

>>163812985
>>doesn't know that the opening cutscene of ac04 is in-engine

>>163839585
AC4 has the most boring intro anyways who the fuck cares

>>163839585
Does that include the birds?

Is Third Aerial Girls Squad OVA basically Ace Combat mixed with Sailor Moon?

>>163836038
There's a big difference between 'yeah, maybe we'll do a port in the future, who knows' and 'absolutely yes port'

REX

REX TREMENDAE

>>163844081
Yeah, because one time I tried emulating it and the birds ended up all messed up

>10

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I hope AC7 gets a puchim@s and egg planes crossover

Ded.

Who is even alive?

>>163854041
nobody

Strim's up, today we're going to whack some asses with Uncle Dante.

A salute for Carrie Fisher

no it's fine guys don't bump the thread or anything

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preliminary smoke system up and running. kinda shitty but gets the idea across and can be modified for burning scenery too

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>>163863661
Hard to say much if it's just a placeholder thing.

If anything it doesn't look 3d enough.

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Post what you're listening to
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KX1xt5BefRs

Also gore coming through
https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1482102800138.webm

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>>163864761
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNr1-mXY6fU
No clue why I remembered this thing today.

>>163836029
Would play. It's a bit heavy on atg planes and weapons though. The strangereal equivalent would have more ata combat than Vietnam did. Mig alley type missions and the like.

Also, maybe make sams more difficult to identify and more deadly.

>>163864761
www.youtube.com/watch?v=8BglEyv5O2Y

>>163864761
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lcm9qqo_qB0

>>163854041
Aces are too busy having a life during the holidays!

>>163864761

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9PzPToYLaA0&feature=youtu.be

ded

Liv
Its time for '' i accidentally the apocalypse''

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It's more ded than usual these days.

It's the holidays and most of us are normies.

>>163874805
Meant for >>163874646

>>163874646
Some of us here are desperate for more AC7 news.

>>163875348
Hi, puchifag. Ban-evading again?

>>163876680
You're a fucking moron.

If you didn't get triggered so hard and give the puchishitposter all the Yous he wanted, if you weren't such a dumb fucking retard and could follow the basic rules of report and hide, we wouldn't even have this problem.

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>>163875724
>>163875946
>>163876512

>>163878953
I have no problems with the normal human idols, though.

>tfw sick

What did you buddies get on steam this holiday?

>>163879902
>sick

You're not as cool as you think you are.

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>>163879902
I bought myself Turok: The Dinosaur Hunter because I'm a nostalgia fag.
Get better, you meme.

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Hard at work in the meme-mines.

>>163879902
Vampire the Masquerade: Bloodlines and Near Death.

>>163876680
>this post

imagine being this retarded

LIVE, for Project Nemo has completed!
http://useatoday.blogspot.com/2016/12/ac3-e-ie-discs-22-h-e-v-e-n-n-d-e-r-t-h.html#more

>>163883506
It's been complete for almost two weeks dude

>>163883683
It has? Then sorry, I just learnt of it, and i had to tell someone, not thinking if i was selling old fish.

>>163883904
Look in the OP, there are some resources for emulating and patching it.

don't fall for the sublimation meme

ded

>>163885523
>mods
>fair

Pick one and only one

Jesus christ, like ten posts just got deleted

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>>163878953
Wait wat? are puchis kill now? no. More on topic than cena and the pats ffs.

and who else needs one coin to get a 200 tier plane?

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>http://mirror.uncyc.org/wiki/Belka
>All the sticks that kids have dropped in rivers

What the hell is this and which one of you made it? I laughed.

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>>163889470

Don't die!

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I just got a new PS3.

How long until Ace Combat Infinity gets shut down like Tekken Revolution and Soul Calibur Lost Swords?

>>163894354
I've just taken my hangar slots to 40, so soon.

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>>163894354
Perhaps sometime after the release of AC7

>>163888883
>>163894354
MODS, THESE PICTURES ARE NOT RELATED TO VIDEO GAMES.
THEY ARE ALSO VIOLATING THE RULE ABOUT AVATARPOSTING.

>>163897728
Puchi >im@s

How is YOUR post related to video games?

Can't find a good crew for WBA hard got you down?

>>163898316
>Defending puchis this hard
No. Only the Idolm@ster is related to video games.
Puchim@s is not.

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>>163898510
>no answer about your non-vidya post

Typical.

You know is is easily triggered anons like you is why bronies took off, right?

And, you are still trying to do WBA Hard S rank right? Too many guys wanting to combo the MPBM challenge eh?

>>163880676
>turok
Fps? Is it any good?
>>163880878
Lmao, isn't the vampire one a VN?

>>163898950
Kill yourself. Please. You and I both know that you don't give a shit about this general's quality, or you wouldn't be posting these dumb pictures that piss everybody off. Seriously, you're fooling nobody. Everyone that gives you (you)s knows that you're full of shit, and only post those images while giggling like a retarded middleschooler that you're annoying people.

You're not funny. Nobody else is laughing. You are an annoyance, and you know it. You do not care about this general's quality. You post here to shitpost. Stop lying, because nobody is falling for it, except maybe you.

Anyway, no stream of AC3 tonight - it's rather late - but I gotta say, I have some mixed feelings about this game. On the one hand the way the storyline has a bunch of different branches certainly makes it fun to play - your choices actually have real meaning other than just a coin flip between 2 missions. However I don't know how much I like the weird plane handling and high stall speeds. They're different sure, but good different? Not so sure. In addition, the story is kinda awkwardly told.

>>163900168
>only one was me

It's all you. Don't lie.

Can the mods do us all a favor and just fucking nuke this thread?

Yet again, shitposter-kun has done his utmost to ensure that no one enjoys themselves.

Because of problems in his own life? We may never know.

>>163900168
>xd triggered
>xd ur mad bro
Are you a small child? The only people that find posting stupid shit with the express purpose of annoying people (and doing nothing more) funny have the emotional maturity of a 12 year old.

Not to mention, why on earth are you shitting up an actually nice community, of all places? If you enjoy watching places burn post in /sc2g/ (if it still exists) or /srg/ or something. Your retarded posts won't look out of place there, and you'll be contributing to wiping a shitty general off the board at that. Is it autism, an acknowledgement that you lack the ability and resolve to shit up a larger general that will actually fight back, or is it just hatred that people enjoy a game series that you dislike? I'm actually curious.

>>163900168
Oh also, no one plays AC:I anymore

(except for your own pathetic self, of course)

>>163900516
You should already know that all you're going to get is more bait, not an actual post, anon

>>163900564
I still do. What's your fucking problem, man?

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>>163900662
I'm fully aware.

Honestly I think that the only thing that will improve this board is deletion, mods take 15+ hours most of the time to remove off topic baitposts, not to mention people that appear on a superficial level to be on topic but are actually just shitposting. Whatever, fuck em. Have a picture of AC3.

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>>163900796

>>163900796
>>163900913
That's the ticket, let's see some screenshots.

How many of you have finished all the paths in 3?

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Time to go to bed

>>163899907
Look at some videos on YouTube, you swine. Of course I'll say it's good.
The first and its sequel are the only ones worth taking about somewhere not here.

>messed up a spoiler somwhere

>>163900796
Remember that mods and janitors, however many or few they may be, have to handle every single report, even the bullshit blanket bombing ones, across this entire ten page high speed board. Can you reasonably expect them to always have instant response times, pinpoint accuracy, and the ability to know what each and every general, hell each and every person in the generals, considers shitposting?

>>163902362
Hell no, I know it's an unsolvable problem. It's not something I expect to be fixed because it's not reasonable considering the scope of the site. It just depresses me that edgy little teenage shitheads can ruin nice and comfy places like this just through sheer will of autism.

>>163902437
And now you know why society can be a shitshow sometimes
Just replace edgy shitheads with your vocal segment of choice

Can you imagine being this butthurt?

>>163902865
>people have community they like
>one person makes it his singular purpose to destroy community
>people are mad

Gee, people sure are weird. aren't they?

>9

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Post old hags.

>>163880678
Shouldn't that be Keith?

Sleep tight /aceg/

>try to sleep
>stomach hurts
>cant sleep
guess I can bump the thread though

>>163894354
>>163912010

desu I kinda wish metal gear solid 3 was released on PC, I'd love to play that game with a mouse and keyboard.

Too bad we'll never get a remake :^(

too bad the nips like pachinko more than actual fucking video games

how can one country simultaneously make such great games yet have such bad fucking taste

>>163913164
After AC7 we'll get Ace Combat PC, with PC stands for PaChinko and is exclusive for Steam.

>>163866378
How about this?

>Not-South Vietnam
F-101C Voodoo
Weapons - HAAM(8), MPM(8), NCLR(2)

>Not-Laos/Cambodia
CF-105 Arrow
Weapons - HAAM(12), SAAM(10), NCLR(2)
Tornado ADV
Weapons - QAAM(12), SAAM(12), XMAA(12)
>There weren't enough non-US/Russian planes

>Not-North Vietnam
Su-11-8M "Fishpot"
Weapons - HAAM(8), RCL(8), SAAM(8)

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Say, it's been a while since the Project Wingman developer shared us his latest development progress.
I surely hope he hasn't abandoned his awesome and promising indie Ace Combat-styled game project.
Pity about what's happening with Vector Thrust right now.

>buy crypt of the necrodancer
>be horribly bad
Ace combat. Also do we have some streaers doing blind plays of the games ? I saw some guys from DS doing it

>>163919308
Flash is doing a blind play of Darksiders.
Thunder is doing a blind play of Xenogears.

>>163919926
I meant AC blind playthroughs, and not from the thread
Might tune in tho

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>>163915398
>right now
Is there something happening other than it's kinda ded?

>>163921458
Nah, just some players complaining about bugs on Steam and asking suggestions there and on ModDB/IndieDB without getting any reply from the dev.
Well, I'm just explaining none other than the details of the game being ded, anyway.
At least the dev should've told his customers why he is on hiatus right now.

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>>163923127
Dump

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>>163923237
Thats all for now

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>>163923237
>>163923332

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>>163923332

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>>163923374
I got these two.

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>>163923374
>>163923420

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;_;

>>163925753
Oh, the irony.

>>163925753
>playing 5
>posting bait
Is that line triggered when the AI fucks up and gets hit?

>>163926073
I was looking through some aceg pics and forgot I had it

I would've really thought they would've removed that line, the forshadowing is too much

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>>163926410

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>>163925753
Poor fuck.

>>163927608
Where is the Osean National Cemetery where Chopper's remains is buried with full honor located?

>peek-a-boom still crashes on the neucom entry among others
hahaha.

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>"Neucom used to be EASA"

Megafloat was built by Neucom. Its construction began sometime around 2004, when AC4 takes place.

The first floating platforms can be seen near Rocky Islands in AC4, to the far East of Usea.

This shows that not only Neucom already existed since at least 2004, it seemed to already exist along with EASA, therefore not being an Erusean company, as Erusea is situated to the West of Usea, which separates it from Megafloat's location.

It should also be noted that Megafloat was built to be a massive research & military installation, and secondly, a city. Usea would've never let it be built during wartime if it were an Erusean project.

Neucom is its own company.

>>163925753
wew

>(You)s disabled

cool/10

>>163931472
kekekkekeke, just when we thought we couldn't go any lower, but I like this change

>>163931472
>>163932950
Outside of removing (you) memery it's just harder to find replies to your posts in a fast or long thread now.

But sure, who cares.

>>163932950
Now shitposters have no currency to work for. I wonder what new method they'll resort to to shit up threads?

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>>163933427
Nevermind, I'm a retard, it adds dots under the numbers instead of a full line.

>>163933589
NOBODY DOT THE PUCHIFAG

>>163933912
>dot
And everything is back to normal.

>>163933589
No sweat, I missed it at first too.

>think Infinity is bad
>start playing Overwatch

God forgive me but I miss the clubbers

>>163936463
Is it any good?

>>163936673
Played for like 2h but it was fun. Even a useless scrub like me can be useful to the team in a support role (love that girl that puts turrets around) provided they stick to their roles. But it never happens. Think fighters groundpounding in Infinity, every single match. And blaming you for being a bad healer or support when team loses just because you didn't get any help.

>>163936673
ids bad

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>>163930723
I want you to know that I've seen you're post and that I'm reday to debate.

But I'm gonna take the short road this tiem.

According to one of the two Search documents on Neucom, the EASA got underwent privatization and after a number of acquisitions in the air-line and space sectors, it became Neucom. There's no date given to either this or when the Megafloat project began which tells me that the info from AC04 posted by you is compatible with what's said in AC3.

I have sources in English (not google translate) and in Russian, but I won't link them because I'm an asshole. An asshole yes, but not a liar, so if you look for them on google, you'll find them.

>>163930723
>>163937759
Is it not entirely possible the case is both?
Real life had a Megafloat too (though IIRC the under-construction megafloat only appears in a challenge mission and may not be canon.) so hypothetically you could have the Pan-USEA megafloat experiment or what have you, just to see if building a big island is viable, then when EASA is privatised it looks around and goes "Right, they look like a clever bunch, let's buy them out."

Having Googled, I can't find the translated search files nor are they in the readme of the translation patch (I was lied to!) but that's irrelevant to my lazy speculation.


What is the nature of Usea anyway? I've always considered it a continent, but occasionally it seems to be discussed in more EU-style terms. By AC3 I presume it's one united nation, but AC2 happening across multiple different countries seems very odd indeed.

What was with the Geofront anyway?

Were the structures inside it (during the tunnel flight) for computers, etc, or were some of those inhabited? How would one travel inside the geofront to begin with? (rail, car, etc. i assume most people don't take an R-103), when you destroy the support beams is it going to collapse and kill everyone in it (hey, we already did megafloat or just weaken the structure such that someone's going to have to send down a repair team because maybe the roof is outside structural tolerances now.

Was it a general use-city or a research facility like Megafloat? Was it owned by General, Neucom, or the civilian government?

Is any of this written anywhere, or am I overthinking "it's a big cool tunnel area where you get to fight now shut up"

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>>163941427
I have no clue, but with how little supports where were I don't think you could collapse it by destroying those. How exactly the ceiling holds up though, no clue.

That said I figured it was just an underground city, possibly coupled with a source for those generators that powered the Night Raven.

The tunnel was probably also just a load of buildings and stuff, given how odd it got towards the end with all the walkways and stuff.

>>163937759
>I have sources to support my argument, but I won't show them
That's not how you debate something.

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>>163941427
>What was with the Geofront anyway?

From the japanese wiki, google translate:

"Huge underground city of general resource. It is built in the city of St. Arc in the northeastern USEA, which was destroyed by the fall of the meteorite. Geo Front is the meaning of an underground city. It is connected to the ground with an underground tunnel called a geo front pass, and maintains its structure with many shafts (struts). The shaft incorporates an urban detonation system that is used to prevent technical outflows during emergencies such as disasters, and in the unlikely event it is possible for the entire city to collapse by blasting of the struts. Because of the nature of the underground city, many aeon generators are installed as air purification system."

Seems to be a full-fledged city but I refuse to believe GR kills who knows how without anyone saying anything about it, so they either evacuated everyone or still uninhabited. The wiki also talks about an intercontinental road which or may not be related to Geofront. Maybe it's the road which connects the mainland to the Geofront.

Neucom's Megafloat was also meant to be a moving city in addition to harboring their naval fleet (maybe even a research facility since Neucom is all about science) but on this wiki it says that it's just for or mostly for Neucom employees at first. So I guess it's just Neucom people during the game.

>>163928339
Think some of that stuff will be revealed? I hope.
I mean, doesn't AC7 take place 10 years after AC5, when all the classified info about that war is finally released?

Wait, is it said in game that the info was only released 10 after the war, or is this fan made shit?

>>163942996
>Wait, is it said in game that the info was only released 10 after the war, or is this fan made shit?

It's in the ending cut-scene, saw it on reddit. It's real.

The question is if the team behind 7 is gonna follow up on this or if it's just 10 years later.

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>>163942996

>>163943205
Alright. Thanks man. I always skipped the ending cut-scenes. Guess I should stop doing that

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I've gotta say, after trying it out a bit now, coding is kinda fun but also frustrating.

>>163936673
I played overwatch for like 80 hours and enjoyed maybe 30 of it. It's not a well thought out game and its painfully obvious this is blizzard's first fps. If you actually like fpses you might like it but you also might not. If you like the idea of fpses but don't like the things that make an fps an fps (aiming, positioning, working with a team) then you'll probably love overwatch.

Wondering: If the EASA are testing the SU-30 thing near Stonehenge, why?

Stonehenge is outside Erusea in San Salvacion isn't it?

Comfy Bitcher strim soon

so were the guys who blew up dision and yoko general resource ones (because of ideological opposition to the research or such) or just random terrorists?

>>163950414
GR operatives with the mission to destroy any traces of sublimation research

>>163948769
http://pastebin.com/iauUSHK3
We liv, get in lads

Also, uhhhh

About dision. When did we go from "dision in the sim has a real body" to "dision is the product of IRL sublimation who has infiltrated the sim"?

>>163951160
Wait, I always thought Dision was just part of the simulation like everyone else. He just got dealt an even shittier hand than the rest.

>>163951160
It's a long story.

GR was working on the Darkness of Enigma project, which is basically a secret research to connect pilots straight to their planes directly through their brains so they'll be better pilots. Yoko was one of the researchers who was working on this.

Simon used to work for GR (presumably in the same project) and he fell in love with Yoko during his time there, but (the real) Dision showed up and cucked him, snatching Yoko away.

Simon then transfered to Neucom, and began to think about how he could take Yoko back. That's when he came up with the AC3 simulation to find a way to wipe Dision off the map without taking the blame. Given he had a doctorade in AI development, he created an AI - Nemo - to operate it rather than having to do it himself or ask anyone else to do it.

His simulation suggests that Yoko manages to sublimate Dision before GR black ops blow them the fuck up (this is a plot point created by the simulation). It also suggests that, in order to AI Dision go apeshit, somebody has to frame GR so they'll blow Yoko the fuck up.

The answer to that would be Rena, the ambiguous retard who thinks Dision is her friend. The simulation considers that she's convinced (by someone) that Dision and GR were just using her as a guinea pig for the DOE project, and when she finds out it's true, she transfers to UPEO and tells everyone about it.

People find out about it and start bashing GR for human ethics. GR covers it up by blowing Yoko and everyone else invoved with DOE to hell (hence why Simon transfered to Neucom), and AI Dision goes apeshit, ultimately making him a villain and a target.

As the secret ending shows, regardless of what happens after Rena tells the world what GR was doing, Nemo fights and erases AI Dision from the electrosphere.

1/2

>>163953829
>>163951160

Unlike simulated "real" Dision, AI Dision isn't just a "character" who only appears in a few cutscenes like the others like an NPC with pre-made speeches and actions. Unlike the others, he is made into an actual AI by the simulation to fight Nemo over and over in every ending. And in order for that to happen, his data has to be kept as is instead of being reset, as he fights Nemo for multiple reasons in every ending.

As he was an AI, he could presumably do everything Nemo could, instead of being chained to what the simulation dictates. He had to be there the whole time after he came into play. In the game, "real" characters either die off or get a specific ending and that's it, but not AI Dision. He gets to travel in the electrosphere just like Nemo and spy on everything, gradually learning more things after each ending.

In short, it can be assumed that AI Dision attained enough information in the simulation to develop self-awareness and realize he was an AI, just like in an actual machine-learning proccess (i.e. the "training" simulation Nemo is going through.)

AI Dision didn't infiltrate the sim. Simon accidentally created another AI in the AC3 simulation, which is, theoratically, possible.

Sky Rogue worth it? I remember the demo being kinda fun ages ago, but it's somehow still in EA.

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>>163953829
>>163954582

>>163954715
I have it and it's pretty fun, especially for the $7 it is now.

I don't think it's being worked on very heavily sadly. But it's fun now, IMO.

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>>163953829
Simon can't take her back, she died aged 30 along with Dision.

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who wants to see a 20 year old game upscaled to look like a 15 year old game?

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>>163956919
this is 2x res

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>>163957082
this is 4x
honestly 2x looks like an early ps2 game, it's very impressive what they managed to pull off on the PS1.

>Ace Combat 04: Shattered Skies development artwork shows that Strangereal was originally much more similar to our world, with Usea situated in the northern Pacific Ocean.
This is in acecombat wikia. Anyone got a sauce on what they're talking about?

I don't assume it's total nonsense because some AC3 press-release material gave various characters real-world birth locations, but I'm interested as to what the AC4 development stuff is.
(Also it's interesting to note that despite this, the real world basically isn't mentioned at all in the games themselves.)

>>163957257
The PS1's main issue with graphics is just the weird texture warping thing.

At least from what I remember playing on it. The games looked pretty good other than that.

>>163955317
I might just get it because it's been on my wishlist forever. I read it's based on days/missions?

Any way to also just use a mission editor or something given that it's got workshop/mod support IIRC?

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>>163957257
and 8x just for funsies
8x for the PS1 is actually 2560x1920 (technically 2560x1792) which is hilariously large

>>163957323
I think AC5 is around when they decided to run with 'its a world just like ours except not', yeah?

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>>163957323
F5'd page and pic-related was on it:

But this isn't quite our world. (I like how New Zealand survived into the Strangereal we all know and love, though.)

>>163956641
It doesn't make sense for her to be dead in real life or else the corporate war would already be happening. Unless Simon was just training Nemo to kill Dision before launching him into the world to end the ongoing war.

>>163957323
>>163957516
Didn't they origionally just flip some oceans around?

>>163957625
Exactly, in every single scenario, Dision -always- dies at the end, and that's what Simon is after, to get revenge for getting Yoko killed.

>>163958026
>tfw no ending where you sit down with Dision and decide to both go fuck up Simon for being a cunt

>>163958026
But he doesn't even know if Dision was involved in her death. GR marked her for death after Rena told the world about DOE. All Dision did was cuck him. That leads me to believe he's just mad for being cucked. If he wanted revenge on someone, it'd have to be Rena for not keeping her mouth shut, or GR for killing Yoko.

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>>163957625
She's officially dead.

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>>163958867
Also, it wasn't Rena's fault. GR chose not to keep the project secret, let her take part in interviews and gain fame. When the press started putting the whole thing into question, GR pulled the plug on its questionable projects, in Yoko's case very violently with one as collateral damage (GR's ace, Dision). Simon only blames Dision for taking her heart, not her life.

>>163958890
>((Cohen))
>Literally masterminded this 2045nd dimensional chess game
Even in Strangereal you can't get away from them.

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>S.O.C Project "Nemo" Archive Disc.1
>S.O.C Project "Nemo" Archive Disc.2
>S.O.C document
>Simon
>Orestes
>Cohen

idea: some of the countries that wanted to join Osea in AHL eventually did so, now Osea is going to OPERATION IRAQI LIBERATION the fuck out of Erusea.

Even though Erusea have a non fascist government now. Osea can't hear you over all this F R E E D O M (plus that kindly man speaking about the untermensch told us you have chemical weapons.)

Fortunately heroic mujahideen refugees that Erusea was forced to belatedly take drive out Osea from the continent, setting the stage for Ace Combat 3 and rendering all of the nonsense within this spoiler technically canon until proven otherwise.

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Robots Vs. Dinosaurs strim is live

Get in here, buddies

http://pastebin.com/xbsdSPa1

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Looks like Nagase is in ac4 too, rip my ears.

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>>163964510
and 3

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>>163964753
>mfw she fell for the sublimation meme

>>163964925
Well, there's no war in the Electrosphere, so M U H
P E A C E

>>163965156
>there's no war in the Electrosphere
>He didn't get all the endings

>>163965234
Yea she's alive, we can save her!

>>163965156
Even without >>163965234 it's just a glorified internet. What the fuck do you think people on there will do?

>>163965763
Cyberwar, like what's about to happen between russia and the US soon.

>>163965963
>euphoric innernet haxx0rs become special forces

wewc

>>163965649
>not saving Rena

>>163965963
Don't start World War 3 just because you memed someone into presidency guys.

>>163965963
>implying
If trump were any more of a putin lapdog he'd have Russian cock down his throat 24/7. A war between the US and Russia is not likely, not in the least because Putin probably has some blackmail on Trump.

>>163966184
show proof

>last night it was puchis
>now it's the same political situations that were already discussed in November

Is daily shitposting going to become a thing now?

>9

>>163964162

We comfy strim now.

>>163974985
kill yourself

>>163975162
REPORT AND IGNORE

THE PROCEDURE IS UNCHANGED

>>163975162
DON'T DOT DA MADAFAKA!!!!!!!!!11111oneoneonoene

>>163976379
kill yourself

>>163976452
see >>163975330

>>163976452
youre just as dumb you know that? like wow

>>163977034
>>163976452
>>163975162
Kill yourself

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>>163975162
>>163976452
>>163977034
>>163977454

Better than >10

>>163977835
shut yer frog cakehole tsuyu

>>163977835
Worst girl.

Post what you're listening to.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_XxWkgL1iQg&index=2&list=PLtN4dmtHgNq6AhEVIGHKUjGrf2qGz21c9

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>>163980776
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9mJuqBipE0

>>163980776
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjlu4SzdD3s

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>yfw 30gb of AC7 is reserved for in-game ally chatter

>10

>>163980776
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BnTW6fZz-1E

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>>163985791

>>163980776
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y1PVmANeyAg

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<<C'MON NUGGETS, CLIMB! CLIMB!>>

>>163996414
Nah

>>163999460
Han

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*muffled hacking sounds

Is the Ace Combat game on Steam any good? I kind of want to buy a stick and play some sick aerial combat.

>>164007963
assault horizon is fucking garbage

>>164009415
The gameplay is that bad?

>>164010017
It's nothing like typical Ace Combat. It's very tryhard cinematic, too much shaky cam with oil spraying all over the place and shit trying to be all 'this is what REAL war is like' (see link related), it forces the on-rails segments on you, the writing is bad, the villain is lame, there are a whole plethora of problems with the game that make it really not worth the money. AH is a try-at-your-own-risk sort of thing.

https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1482943188528.webm

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>>164013372
>tfw the only AC on Steam is the shittiest one
At this rate I wish that someday they'll bring AC7 to Steam after the PS4 build is released.

>>164014035
Frankly, if you have a decent computer, you're much better off emulating the PS2 games, if legit AC gameplay is what you're after.

>>164014778
Well, I have an average gaming laptop and have emulated the PS2 games albeit still having to depend on frameskip during certain parts, even on HW rendering. Too bad the HW mode for AC04 emulation is still buggy with the textureless player's jets.

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>>164014035
I'm pretty sure there's at least two or three clones floating around on Steam.

Vector Thrust is one, fun for the challenge mode and mission editor, albeit it's kinda dead now.

Raider's Sphere 4th or whatever is apparently a good clone. The art looks horrible though and the plane designs aren't great.

Sky Rogue is some RL thing.

Other than that it's really only emulation or AH.

Will there be graphic violence and sexual content in AC7?

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>>164017573
>sexual content

>>164017573
In Assault Horizon 2 (Q4 2019) there's a POV QTE sex scene in VR.

"Shit."

"Damn."

"GUTS."

>>164014035
I didn't know that AC Advance was on Steam.

is it me or is AC3 more a movie than a game?
it sort of feels like it. most of the time you can ignore everything but TGTs with no penalty since planes are just handed to you anyway and missions tend to only have a small number of TGTs, the average mission seems to last ~2-3 min

I still love it, but gameplay wise 3 is a downgrade from 2. (although it's beautiful and as far as i know actually uses a semi-proper physics engine which is the reason planes are so sluggish compared to 2.)

>>164019565
AC3 doesn't feel like AC at all to me. It feels like you're playing a game adaptation of some late 90s sci-fi anime.

>>164019651
i think the highly artificial nature of the conflict is (by intent or by accident) portrayed too well, which makes it more difficult to get invested in it
was it Cynthia who called out Dision for basically just stating mock battles? that's how large parts of the war feel. Towards the end when you notice little details (like some of the non-target enemies being UPEO and some being GR/Neucom/Ouroboros, with the non-Ouroboros ones basically ignoring you.) that make it feel like the war is really stepping up, but since most of the time you're just blowing up corporate hardware miles away from anything important it doesn't really have the feeling of success you get when you're liberating San Salvacion/Directus/Griswall/Gracemeria fuck yeah. It's more of a background event.

Whether that's just a side-effect of sperging out and focusing on the world over the characters, or an intentional portrayal of a corporate war that - for the average person - amount to an occasional R-101 crashing into the streets on the news until suddenly the internet starts telling you to kill your mailman then upload yourself, i don't know.

"Broken Truce" is one of the most comfortable missions in AC history, though. That soundtrack, that rain.

>>164020234
The most comfy mission for me will always be either Breaking Arrows or Gracemaria Patrol (Until your wingman really brings it down.)

>>164020579
Free Flight mode is always the most comfy mission for me.

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Oh hey, looking through AC3 world and view I found that Neucom did used to be EASA

HOWEVER

EASA = Euro-Asia Space Administration, not Erusian Air and Space Association. (Which makes their ownership of Comona far more understandable.)


More interesting it also gives you some TAC codes. For GR (page 40) Abyss (Dision?) Madcap (I assume Keith, as I've seen him referred to as Mudcap... somewhere.) And "Hopeful" (..?)

Now, interesting point: in the AC3 English intro you get a woman's voice saying something like "Controller, this is Hopeful on final approach" at ~0:30. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bf0VcCNi-0s

Neucom codes are "Priest" (Cynthia) "Sister" (Fiona) and Fireman (Nemo? But then Hopeful is presumably Nemo. Or maybe they're AWACS or something I DON'T KNOW.)

>>164019651
Possibly because they were trying to cash in on the cyberpunk hype and GitS thing going on at the time. Or at least so I've heard.

It's an odd entry, but at least it's fun to play.

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Ha. The UPEO TAC names are "SARF - [Number]"

Also using some inference maybe Hopeful, Fireman and SARF-4 ARE all Nemo. I don't speak Japanese but the characters appear to be the same.

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And just for completion, the GRDF page.
So that raises some questions, since Nemo doesn't speak and Simon refers to him in male terms.
If Hopeful was a Neucom or UPEO code it would make more sense (as Fiona/Cynthia could be speaking on behalf of Nemo.) but General? Who knows.

Or maybe the Story was always planned for radical alteration.

>>164020234
Speaking of Cynthia of Neucom, what is her bra size, the color of her panties, and her sexual orientation?

>>164023462
None none and none, because the only moral route through the game is to stick to Fiona like glue which means Cynthia is computer data only now. Her body is a mangled mess of skin stuck to airship parts 1000ft under water in the gulf of St. Ark.

which means any filthy fanart you dig up is canon!

>>164023834
>the Fiona poster is back
I almost missed you.

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/aceg/, post your AC7 pics. I'll start

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>>164023834
Cynthia a cute

T H I C C

Now keep in mind, I'm saying nothing about her actions or her personality, all I'm saying is that she's physically attractive.

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>>164024289

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>>164024289
Based Su-30SM coming through.

>>164024132
Alas, I'm not Fionaposter. If it was Erich in the R505 then I'd be Erichposter. It really is the only moral way to play. (Well, I guess you can let Rena shoot the R505 down but that's not very nice either. Gabriel W. Clarkson did nothing wrong and one look at Park will tell you he's a baddie.)
Then once you've gone to Neucom you can hardly justify defecting to a terrorist group, so you're stuck with them to the end. Press F. to pay respects to Cynthia and Megafloat.

p.s. Dision really isn't very nice. ("From the way you [Cynthia] speak about the Electrosphere, you'd think you thought it was a heaven... If you want to go to heaven you should join your sister [Fiona, killed in an 'accident' at a Neucom base.]")

Which reminds me to ask: Did Dision ever actually believe in sublimation (well, after the start of the game - presumably he did as part of DOE), or did he just want to goad people into blowing shit up because being trapped on the internet for decades would put any man crazy? (I should know.)
OR did he sublimate people specifically because he thought it was awful and wanted them to suffer too? Dision is very confusing. He laughs at Cynthia wanting sublimated in her route, but (forcibly?) Sublimates people in that General Resource mission with all the screaming.

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>>164024289
Could this be Simon?

>>164024834
Simon is 40 in AC3 (which is 2045, right?), do we have an actual date for AC7 yet?

>>164024971
according to the pastebin Tom put in the OP, 2020.

>>164024382
>physically attractive
So, what is the answer to >>164023462?

>>164024971
10 years after ace combat 5. AC5 started 2005 if im not mistaken. In AC7, that guy is probably in his early 20s

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>>164025104
AC5 takes place in September thru New Years of 2010.

>>164025080
She sublimated, which means dat ass will last forever.

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>>164025214
*New Years Eve

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>>164024289

>>164025050
So it takes place at the same time as AC6?

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>>164025472
AC6 is 2016. ACX takes place in 2020.

>>164025659
I meant X. I don't know why I said 6.

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>>164025743
It's Dision, he's fucking with your keyboard.

>>164020834
Clearly you don't free flight in the A-10 Kotori

>>164025813
>scar on his face
>Su-3X
really gets the noggin joggin

>>164018523
Actual depiction of ACAH ingame chatter

>>164027137
He finally got a grip.

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>>164020579
I always thought Emancipation was extremely comfy, but that could be due to the music. Also Jewel Box from AC2, and Ice Cage from AC5, because in spite of Nagase's autism in that mission, driving snow storms are comfy as fucc.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zxh0BvHY6KQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YwDFd6E-CM0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=de-rQLsX8a8

Also post mission OSTs you like.
AC7 dump continuing.

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>>164027245
Goddamnit its giving me flashbacks

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>>164027328
Alright
https://youtu.be/dKdqr6WXCK0

>>164025813
Let me guess:
If they guy in the picture is an antagonist of AC7, then the only way to defeat him in a dogfight is to aim for his oxygen supply, right?

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>>164021004
>Euro-Asia = Erusea

>>164024834
No. He looks younger in AC3.

>>164030285
Condsidering most cannons are shooting 20-37mm shells, I doubt that kind of precision would be necessary.

i wish i was a weeb so i'd be motivated enough to learn japanese

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><< Wardog 4, helloooooo! Can you hear me, kid? You better be markin' our tail, son! >>

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>>164033931
What for?

[AC0 assault record for Indigo 3]
> After the war, he immigrated to Osea where he was headhunted by the Osean Space Agency and engaged in training to become an astronaut. The following year, he enrolled in the Liberty Seven Project where he established a new record for continuous space flight of 72hrs. 52min.

That's an interesting footnote (Unless there was something special about the flight not in the record, we'd outdone that record in the 1960s. Can one presume that at least in 1995, there'd been no Strangereal moon landing? I suppose it's reasonable. The minute you show a rocket can get to the moon a Belka-Erusea-Leasath-Estovakia coalition is strapping fucking boosters to the thing to kick off Ulysses 2:Fuck you boogaloo )

>>164014035
AH's only redeeming element is the music.

>>164039930
White Devil and that rocket chase music were pretty neat.

Goddammit, I forgot how well paced the first few missions of AC5 are. everytime I just want want to have fun and fly planes, I boot up AC0, but every time I start playing AC5, I want to play through the whole game again.

There's something so cool and innocent about that game as a whole.

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>>164045339
It's fun, but I've not played it in a while, I tend to just boot up Zero most of the time.

The aircraft unlocking was kinda meh in 5.

>>164045909
Yeah I usually boot up Zero when I want to scratch the AC itch, but I just get this insane urge to play AC5 every once in a while, and I just end up going through the entire campaign when I do so.

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>>164045339
>but every time I start playing AC5, I want to play through the whole game again.
This is why I like AC5 better than AC0. I just have more fun with 5.

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>>164046221
>Two people in a row saying 5 is fun
Alright who are you and what did you do with the original Anons of the thread?

>>164046505
I put AC5 in the same basket as MGS3. Two games so insanely campy and good that I can just play through them in a lazy saturday afternoon and still have the same good old time I had ten years ago.

There's something so great about japanese people trying to write about americanized soldiers. It has a special charm.

>>164045339
It's a shame that every AC game has "those" missions that just trip you up and ruin the flow of things.

It's all fun and games until they expect you to escort that C-5 through the radar network.

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>>164046505
S-so what if I have shit taste for preferring 5 over 0?
I don't want to get into the whole AC5 IS THE WORST argument.
Just let me enjoy 5 over 0 in PEACE anon. Please.

>>164046816
That mission never gave me any trouble. I'll never understand why people had so much trouble with it.

Sinking the hrimfaxi was to me the hardest thing in that game the first few times through.

>>164047020
I never understood the trouble people had with the 4 horsemen mission.
I've played that mission on every difficulty without issue, even with Chopper messing up the timing and staring over.

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>>164046798
>MGS3
That shit was great. Too bad none of the other entries in the series feel like it.

>>164046912
But anon I unironically the story and missions of 5

I ultimately prefer 0 though, if only because it was my first PS2 AC.

>>164047020
>Hrimfaxi
Speaking of that thing. There is a scene at around 14:20 here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDANkzaHY8k

Is that the sub sinking or is that the sister ship fleeing from the battle? I think it's the one sinking, albeit now the angle seems off. But why would the sister ship be around and not helping?

My friend and I have been in an argument about this for a while.

>>164047020
It's not hard, it's just tedious.
You go from all that excitement and destruction to "Okay, now you're going to spend 10 minutes ensuring a very slow plane inaccurately reproduces your flight-path through a SAM site."

Worst of all is that generally shortcut routes just get it shot down so you've got to take the longest and most tedious way.

>>164047851
>You go from all that excitement and destruction to "Okay, now you're going to spend 10 minutes ensuring a very slow plane inaccurately reproduces your flight-path through a SAM site."

It's supposed to be the downtime though. AC5 actually follow very closely to another favorite of mine from that era, DMC3, on the pacing department.

It has steady highs and lows. I had a jpg image comparing the pacing of the two games that I lost a while ago.

>>164047020
>Sinking the hrimfaxi was to me the hardest thing
The Demons of Razgriz mission? I've never been able to S-rank that mission. I never get all those mini subs in time and a transport sub that escapes or something

>there are people in this general RIGHT NOW that think AC5 was good
even though its the worst of the ps2 games it's still a damn good game tbqh

>>164047020
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>>164046816
>>164047192
The only hard mission in AC5 is 8492 really.

>>164049052
There are no hard missions, but tedious missions can get to fuck

Harling, meet RIM-67 Standard.
Nagase, I hope you enjoy the Snow because we're ditching you.
We don't need to photo those transports for proof, I'll tear out the throat of every Belkan with my bare hands.

>>164049193
I forgot to mention 8492 is only hard if you don't play NG+ with unlocked planes and try to fight them instead of running away.

It was the only time when my squadron actually helped me by getting the fuckers off my back.

>>164049193
>White Noise
I only recall that one being bad because the transport helo would keep getting shot down.

Shit like that is annoying, especially because I don't think you could establish air superiority during the search.

>>164049052
Yeah, that mission can be a bitch even on NG+

>>164049417
You have to take out all ground SAM and AA units on the heli's path. Took me a few tries to realize that.

>>164049052
T-the only hard mission for me is ACES
I've only actually done it once. That fucking tunnel. I have my brother do the tunnel part every time.

>>164049596
AC5's tunnel is the easiest of the series though

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Did a quick ac4 run yesterday, the effect when stonehenge fires is pretty weird.

>>164049665
Wot?
Closing/opening tunnels, spawing F-18s, Hamilton, badly placed barriers, and it's the easiest?
A-Alright

>>164024802
noice

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>>164049665
Easiest tunnel in the series is 4's by a long shot.

>>164049843
It is.

AC3's tunnels are wide, there's 3 to choose from (which close at random), mixed in with tight tunnels full of support beams and shit everywhere.

ACX2's tunnels go fucking vertical since they're actually nuke silos instead of tunnels.

ACZ's tunnel is the least straight one of all the games with sharp turns everywhere, a shitload of V2 hatches which require ~3 gunruns unless you're using large dumb bombs or the morgan's SPW, and you gotta do it all under 3 minutes.

All of this comes after you survive an onslaught of SAMs firing a missile per second at near point blank, followed by jets chasing after you.

>>164050135
I don't remember how 4's played out.

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>>164049596
>Play AC5 for the first time
>get to that tunnel
>try a million times
>finally get through
>PS2 crashes
>gotta do it again
In hindsight it's not that bad, AC3 had a worse run.

>>164049665
I guess it's just the longest, and those cranes and whatnot can fuck you up the first few times around.

What are the other ones though?

Avalon is easy and Megalith and Chandellier are barely tunnels. The one to Geofront qualifies and maybe that missile silo from Joint Assault. But I don't remember the latter too well.

>>164045339
>Well paced

The first 3-4 missions in 5 are garbage.

>>164051567
What a pleb

>>164050327
In 4 you have to fly through 3 not-very-long tunnels to destroy each missile, and then the fourth tunnel opens and you have to destroy the last missile.

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Ded.

>>164054016
>Y-Wing
>It has no wings
THANKS GEORGE LUCAS YOU FUCKING HACK

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>>164054725
Rebels are just lazy hacks that don't know how to put panels back on their ships.

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>>164054950
Apparently, that's official.

>>164038443
This is actually a very interesting observation on the setting. They never designed rockets that would alow them to go to the moon, yet they designed low orbit spacecraft by 1995 (Arkbird) and by AC7 (2020?) they have built a space elevator, which presumably disapears by 2040, or will be retconned as ignored.
Bringing down the elevator might be a plot point.

>>164055550
The explanation given by the Rebels show is that they stole the Y-Wings from the Empire halfway through decomission, where a lot of them were being scrapped and thuds didn't have all their panels or armour installed anymore.

If the lazy engineers are still canon, noone knows. But I like to believe it because it's just so silly.

>>164055614
Strangereal might be too busy with big wars to go to the moon for all we know.

But yeah I can imagine that killing the elevator or protecting it could be the focus of a mission or so.