/dsg/ - Demon's and Dark Souls General

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>>9799445
Not even the Gaping Dragon is free from rule34

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Any suggestions for improving this graphics mod?

I don't know if I want to try to emulate the TGS/E3 demo (strong player glow, everything else is dark, limited field of vision) or go for a more realistic looking style (little/no player glow, dark shadows, bright light sources).

The demo might feel more atmospheric, but be impossible to play due to limited visibility.

Suggestions of areas that would be good to test around at?

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First for kekstralife

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>>163742867
Same approach as before, this time showing bonfire vs sunlight lighting.

>>163742840
Which Souls characters ARE?

Anyone got a spare Anri's Straight Sword?

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Nth for the Supreme Goddess

>ds3 will never be what it could fully be
HOW DOES IT FEEL BROS
HOW DOES IT FEEL

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What other greatswords have sheathes like this? I figured all greatswords would but nope

>Farron Greatsword, a long, straight sword with a thrusting point, which we first see being used to impale someone, only has one thrusting attack in its entire moveset and it's a fucking rolling attack, while all other swords have a thrust as their R2
This is a travesty

>>163743378
claymore has the hollowslayer one
executioner and drakeblood have their respective special sheaths
That's all I'm aware of

bb is shit i dont give a fuck

>keep getting summoned as blue liek crazy

Did they patch something?

https://www.amazon.com/clouddrive/share/RT6obNAXlI3QAjIq30boJRqLZbkioF5qsjatxQxCl1

why we so dead?

>>163744508
what

>>163744975
present :>

>>163744508
Is this dolphin porn?

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Can anyone make a prettier char?

>>163744508
FUG THANK YOU

>>163744508

>696 mb

hm...

>>163745121
t-thanks

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>>163745179

>>163745443

>le side profile meme

try a frontal pic big boi

>>163744508
WHAT IS THIS

>>163744508
>700mb file from a Mongolian basket weaving website
That's scary as fuck

>>163744508
700mb random download from a stranger online?

Yeah no thank you, someone verify this please

>>163745553
it's an h-game

>>163745473
What? It's 3/4ths, and 3/4ths is the standard since you get an idea what they look like from the front and the side. Front or side views are the memes because you can't tell if their faces are scrunched or spaced oddly.

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>liking miyasucky games

>>163745736
ds2 is artificial fun

it's that easy

>>163745798
>no ur wrong
>it's that easy

Oi, I'm going in blind into DaS3, is there anything I should know before starting?

>>163745736
What, wasn't 4A considered a huge step up and widely loved?

I know people loved DaS1 even after DeS, same with BB. DaS2 was just garbage, and DaS3 was damage control.

>>163745961
le prepare 2 die XDDD

>>163745961
don't use elemental infusions unless you plan on going full caster
don't summon for abysswatchers
rolls are free
_________________________________have fun

>>163746053
I'm disappointed by your ironic shitposting
>>163746062
Thanks a bunch

>>163745798
>>163745863
>>163745736
I think the point is committing to personal taste as your measure of the games quality is just setting yourself up for disappointment, because there will always be fans who disagree, the games are just too inconsistent and appeal to different people.

So the only way to not be disappointed is to like all of the games, or none.

>>163746157
Sorry, I'm Australian. It's like a nervous tick

>>163746162
DaS1 > DeS >= BB > DaS3 > > > > > DaS2

There are people that would swap DeS's and BB's position, and I can respect that. However, this list is pretty much universally agreed upon, except by trolls and retarded DaS2-kiddies.

>>163745736
You know what's even worse than Miyazaki games, though?
Dark Souls 2.

>>163745967
Nah, DaS1 was garbage compared to DeS.
I remember you and korba cry git gud whenever people pointed out how broken the mechanics were. BB has some merit, but no replayability.

>>163746448
Such as?

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Dragonsis here? Please respond, I just need to know you're still here.

>>163742953
PC?

>>163746498
poise, undodgable backstabs, no direct hits, estus healing phantoms, no from of respec, super slow movement, no warping till the end, extreme linearity without masterkey, timewasting dead ends with masterkey, mind numbingly boring bosses especially in the second half, >second half, etc

>>163746723
yup

>>163742840
>gaping dragon
>almost no dragon girl anal pics
Wasted opportunity.

>>163745967
AC4 and ACFA share a demon's souls-dark souls relationship.

ACFA removed all the amazing atmosphere, strategy, balance, and cohesive style in AC4, and replaced it with WORSE graphics (looks works and runs worse), dumbed down AI, increased speed that makes hitting people online impossible, and a lot of variance.

But AC4 also had almost no content, extremely bad translations, terrible menu systems, and awful voice acting. ACFA replaced that with longer missions, amazing translation and voice acting jobs, a better menu system, and a generally better story with more memorable characters.

So you can see why ACFA is considered superior to AC4. It got rid of the subtle atmospheric benefits of AC4, in exchange for some hard-hitting value propositions like story and ease of use.

But just like those games, FA is better but only by a SLIM margin. For a lot of the players, FA ruined everything that was good about AC4 by dumbing everything down and trivializing the strategy and positioning of the previous games in favor of pure speed.

I think the only AC game that you couldn't make an argument for being top 5 (out of 15) in the franchise is ACV or Ninebreaker. There are too many pros and cons to each game, too many varying styles and preferences, that it's very hard to say one is 'truly' better than the other.

I think that is true too. I mean, a lot of people understand that ACV was a dumpster fire development hell product (WAY worse than DS2. It was delayed for 2 years and required day 1 patches to stop crashing consoles!) yet there's a large chunk of the fanbase that think it is a better, more replayable, exciting, and better PvP game than ACVD, a game which was widely considered by critics to be the best AC game since the PS2 era.

From isn't consistent. Whatever the game you hate is, you'll eventually find a fan who loves it more than anything else, and they will have damn good reasons why.

>>163746817
Place/pass?

>>163746856

oh
Tower on the wall/dsg

What covenants in DS3 benefit a melee character? It's all fuckin magic related rewards

>>163746843
Oh also, ACFA's benefits really had little to do with Miyazaki. It was entirely the product of Ubisoft's excellent localization job (compared to Sega, at least). They're also the ones who probably demanded the graphical downgrades so larger, faster maps were possible. It still runs like shit though, even on X360.

>>163746885
My sign's down

>>163745736
>>163745798
>>163745967
>>163746407


I think miyazaki makes good games. He's got a good track record and definitely adds atmosphere and creative imagery when he's involved.

But none of their 'best' games are so good that they trivialize their 'worst' games. DS3 will never replace or erase DS2, because it doesn't do what DS2 did best nearly as well. It does other things better, sure, but at the cost of doing some things worse. And some people really like those things.

DS3 can't replace DS2. DS2 couldn't replace DS1. etc. and so on.

>>163747120
Woo
Thanks dude!

>>163746808
Poise was amazing and everyone loved it at first. People didn't start hating on it until Havel's shit got popular.

>estus healing phantoms
Annoying, but people thought it was still better than the endless grass spam.

>super slow movement
Not a deal breaker, and no one claimed it was. It wasn't as stark a contrast as with DaS2, which feels like it is in slow motion.

>no warping till the end,
Literally, no one complained about this except when they did stupid shit like getting going through TotG early.

>extreme linearity without masterkey
No one complained about this either because the game was still new to us all, so everything felt new. Once we knew enough to know, we knew there was no reason to chose anything other than the master key anyway. We also knew about the skips that removed linearity.

The only complaints about the second half was that it was too short, especially lost Izalith, and the BoC boss.

>no from of respec
Literally, no one complained about this either.

Your complaints are just shit people that played DaS2 first bitch about. It has nothing to do with the complaints that were actually around during DaS1's launch. The things that people bitched about near the launch of DaS1 were things like the Fog Ring, and that was quickly addressed.

>>163746843
>pure speed.
That's what made it fun though. The online fights were cuhrazey. It's just if you lacked skill then you were going to get boat murdered.

>>163747126
What did DaS2 do best?

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>>163747227
You're welcome

>>163747126
>DS3 will never replace or erase DS2, because it doesn't do what DS2 did best nearly as well.
WHY DID THEY HAVE TO NEUTER DUAL WIELDING, WEAPON PARRIES AND SWEET SPOTS
I fuckng hate DaS3 for that.

>>163747309

Cute.

>>163745736
DS1 was good
BB was good
DS3 was good
DS2 wasn't
Your copypasta is shit.
You're autistic.

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>>163747348
>NEUTER DUAL WIELDING
Actual powerstance movesets in DS2 were garbage compared to paired weapons. They also had no unique running or rolling attacks, their L2s were a single attack without any followups and their L1s were two-hit combos instead of 3-hit combos in DS3.
Nothing of value was lost except for ability for STR fags to keep an estoc or an axe in left hand in addition to their oversized dildo then brag about how good DS2 ultras were when majority of work was done with their left hand weapon.

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>>163747350
Cute!

>>163747273
>no one
Just because you had no problem with it doesn't mean no one had a problem with it.
In fact the japs had problems with it, that's why they changed it in the later games.

>>163747523
You know I have been in these threads since Day 1, right?

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>>163747487

>>163747574

Post pics of yourself irl?

>>163747597
>pus of man mode never
>you will never transform your arm into a fucklong snake that acts like a combo of fist and whip weapon but has a heavy HA on each attack

>>163747597
more like PUSSY OF MANHOOD XD

>>163747486
>dastard doesn't realize that dual wielding refers to full offhand weapons movesets
>dastard doesn't even realize that it wasn't a fault of powerstancing that they implemented boring moves

>>163747273
>It's just if you lacked skill then you were going to get boat murdered.

It was sort of the opposite. AC4 actually punished you for spamming quickboost or building a perma-flight AC. ACFA didn't, it's like dark souls but with infinite stamina. Sure all the rolling (quick boost) looks cool but it eliminates the need for using cover or strategy and makes fighting in anywhere other than a flat desert completely annoying. FA's indoor stages suffer from sonic-the-hedgehog syndrome (they play awful unless you're always at max speed, which is impossible to maintain indoors) in ways that AC4 didn't.

ACFA lost as much as it gained over AC4, and that's about par for the course. What killed AC4 was mostly the fact that it only had a year of active online vs FA having 3-4, and the single player wasn't long enough to make up for that. But it doesn't make it a -bad- game for what it is, that just weighs fan opinions more favorably toward ACFA because they had more active time playing it.

If they had kept AC4's mechanics and graphics, level design, and atmosphere with ACFA's story, menus, missions and characters, it would be far better than either game was on its own.

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>>163747348
>WEAPON PARRIES
all weapon parries in ds2 had such a fucklong startup time they could as well not exist at all
katana stance parry in ds3 has excellent frames and gives you damage reduction if you fuck up

>>163747574
Me too and you're dirty liar for most of the time.
Go heal against a zweihander user while using a spear in a duel or something. You're not wanted here.

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>>163747745

>>163747348
>>163747746
Not to mention that losing access to parries should be a down side to two-handing, otherwise, there is really no reason not to just two hand constantly.

>>163747713
The strategy was be fast. And yeah, it looked cool as shit.

>>163747815
The content of your posts implies otherwise, plus you are just an anon so there is no way for you to back up your claims. I have been using the same trip since the start.

>>163747273
>What did DaS2 do best?

>Actually good / useful Duel Wielding
>largest explorable world
>most viable pvp build varieties
>more variations between weapons in stats and scaling, without resorting to one-off gimmicks (there are lots of weapons with the same moveset, but different scaling, so you can use different builds and still have a viable weapon in that class)
>respawnable bosses / easy item farming (bonfire ascetics)
>lots of NG+ content, including improved AI
>torches actually useful

There's a few other things that might be more up to taste, but those are all mechanics a person could legitimately love, and then be highly disappointed that they were removed in DS3. Especially since some of those things had no real reason to be removed (power stance and bonfire ascetics...)

It feels too much like DS3 is a sideways movement to a different set of benefits, but with more gloss on it, rather than a true universal improvement.

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Merry Christmas /dsg/, I've decided to replay DS2, but I am not sure how. How did you do your second playtrough?

I have a high soul level character near the middle of NG+, one whom I have finished all the DLCs with, and painstakingly farmed the Mad Warrior set. Should I go with that one, using an exotic build with an exotic weapon, trying to get Benheart's and Lucatiel's stuff which I missed on my first run, or make a completely new character, and try to make it with another stat-based build? For example, I never finished this game with a sorcerer, or a successful battle-cleric (it always felt like I am wasting points on faith instead of other pure-melee stats)

>>163747746
Parrying becomes predictable if only a handful of things can do it.

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>>163747820
Very cute, anon!

>>163747948
I crave more areas like Frozen outskirts. Large, open, explorable, desolate, no walls to follow and no 'level design' holding your hand. Just a pure open world where you could die anywhere and get lost easily. I loved the sheer sense of terror that it filled me with the first time I ended up there.

>>163747746
>onee-chan

don;t you feel bad

>>163747957
Make a new character, and this time burn bonfire ascetics when you can. It will make the game hard enough that you will have to actually explore and seek out easier areas instead of just going linearly.

Ideally, burn them at forest of the fallen giant's cardinal tower bonfire, you can get titanite chunks early that way and it respawns both area bosses. Then get to iron keep ASAP, so you can pick up 3 more and burn them for the harder bosses (old iron king, lost sinner).

At the same time, try to keep up with the summon questlines.

Also, turn your brightness all the way down. It makes the torch areas a lot more fun.

>>163748114
>>163747957
Oh, and you can get 10 more ascetics from Navlaan and Grandahl, so after you clear Drangleic castle, you can basically burn them indefinitely for the rest of the game and go back and get all the bosses at intensity 2.

Are there swords that shoot lightning in DaS3?
think thorned GS

>>163748191
There's a spear and a sword/spear hybrid that shoot lightning and summon a bolt from the sky, respectively

>>163747948
>Actually good / useful Duel Wielding
>>163747486
>largest explorable world
The problem is that DS2's world is pure trash. It has by far the worst level design in all fromsoft games since shadow tower abyss and that's another Tanimura game. Worst detalization, worst encounter design, entire journey feels like an absolute slog compared both to semi-open world of DS1 and enormous individual levels of DS3.
>most viable pvp build varieties
Lies, DS2 has the most retarded and strict meta in series with largest amount of retarded metafaggot gear like jester's top.
Giving all weapons counter modifiers was an enormous mistake. Especially to already gamebreaking shit like warped sword.
>more variations between weapons in stats and scaling, without resorting to one-off gimmicks (there are lots of weapons with the same moveset, but different scaling, so you can use different builds and still have a viable weapon in that class)
DS2 weapon pool was incredibly inflated and with virtually zero unique things in it prior to DLCs and even they did almost nothing to change the situation.
>respawnable bosses / easy item farming (bonfire ascetics)
DS2 has the largest amount of most braindead, MMO-tier farming with literally 1% chance drops. Ascetics is a retarded idea which made NG+ barren as fuck back when ng and ng+ playerbases were still separated.
>lots of NG+ content, including improved AI
A few enemies here and there and changed items in same chests is not a "lots" of content.
Improved AI is just another lie.
>torches actually useful
AHAAAAAAAAAAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Do you understand that the most common complains about release version of DS2 is that it made torches which were advertised into oblivion completely useless because of the gutted lighting system, yes?

Does anyone have 12 titanite scales they can spare so I can upgrade my FGS before fucking end-game? Is it possible to summon someone who can drop shit in your world for you to pick up?

>>163748323
You missed the entire point. These are not reasons why DS2 is better than DS3. These are things that a person might really, really like about DS2, and end up disappointed when they are not present in DS3.

All of your responses are opinion vs opinion, it doesn't invalidate someone who legitimately cares about those things from liking DS2.

Playing DS3, I'm almost ready to go into NG+.

I want to use a different weapon (been using the Black Knight Sword) for my next playthrough, but I'm not sure what. Have 40 dex/str.

I was going to use the Exile Greatsword but it's a little slow for me.

>>163748114
>turn your brightness all the way down. It makes the torch areas a lot more fun
Ouch, yes. I remember I was too much of a pussy at first, so I kept the lights on normal and the torch was just an aesthetic extra. Will definitely do that.

But what build should I use? Go full melee again? If so, dex or str? My first playtrough was more fore Str

>>163747948
Dual wielding was as shit as always. Power stance started semi-useful but was nerfed to death.

Quality > Quantity

99 in every stat is not Variety.

Weapons playing the same but being stat upgrades of one another is not variety. BB has the most weapon variety.

Enemy extinction. Single spawning enemies without guaranteed drops.

A few extra enemies tossed around haphazardly and locking items behind NG++ is not a good thing.

>torches actually useful
You're retarded if you believe that. They just had a few gimmicks. The other games did too. The only game that I felt the need to use a torch to see was BB's chalices.

>>163748479
No, you missed the point. The question was literally, "What did DaS2 do best?" In other words, what does DaS2 do better than the other SoulsBorne games?

>>163748530
only fashion matters

>>163748323
>>163748479
>>163748591

A good game = What you get out of it > What you have to put into it

If you care about the things on that list a lot, then you'll get more out of DS2 for your time than DS3. Most people are gonna get more out of DS3 than DS2. But not those things.

Whether or not DS2 is good or bad depends entirely on how much you value things like that over the benefits of DS3: graphics, textures, flashy movesets, lots of lore/fanservice, boss transformations, etc. If you value DS3's benefits (and there are a lot of them) more, then DS3 is going to be worth more of your time than DS2.

>>163747948
Powerstancing was cool.
The torches would've been interesting if the lighting engine hadn't been gutted.

>>163748771
Seriously, what was up with lightning in das2? Why is it so hilariously bland compared to even das1?

>>163748756
>maximum damage control
Another day, another DaS2 babby

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>>163748802

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>>163748802
they were forced to gut the game like a pig to make it run on ps3/360

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>>163742913

I'm looking for an ultra greatsword / greathammer to carry as a side weapon on my STR / FAI (40/40) character. PvE / PvP

Why is the Cathedral Knight GS considered one of the worst ultras? How good would a Zweihander be instead?

>>163748802
>>163748854
Too high default brightness setting.
Fun fact, if you follow the instruction to make the dragon disappear it looks fine again and makes torches useful. But most shitposter were too lazy to do that.

>>163748698
>asks what DS2 did best
>gets a list
>says that he doesn't like those things
>ignores the fact that they are done worse in the other games, which was the point

DS2 has larger explorable areas. Just because you think they are shit areas doesn't change that fact. They are larger. They can be explored more. No amount of rationalization will change that. If you like size more than you care about graphics or miyzaki's level design (which, honestly, can be annoying as fuck at times) then DS2 is going to be better than DS3 for you.

You need to at least try to understand how other people think before you start spouting bullshit about how they should think.

Or in other words:

You're a fucking idiot for thinking your opinion represents the opinion of the entire community. You're a fucking idiot for hating a game for reasons that don't reflect most people's playthrough experience. You're a fucking idiot for going back to the same dumb memes (99 in every stat! lied upon release! DaS2 babby!) instead of defending your actual beliefs with reasonable explanations.

And worst of all, you're a fucking idiot for spreading this shit so much that you end up acting like DS2 molested you as a kid and now you have to go on a personal vendetta against anyone who likes any piece of it.

You're the worst kind of attention whore. Get off the internet, jerk off, go play something other than dark souls.

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>>163749041
and buff with lighting blade when neccesary

>>163749081
There are a few other little changes. The player glow spreads out a lot wider than in the demo, basically you get a weaker torch around you constantly, so the player will cast light on most of the room they're in. Disable player glow, and most rooms are very dark, even if the default brightness.

>>163749132
That weight tho. Also lacking the dex for it

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>>163749017
>using yotsuba
>almost 2017
how horrifying

>>163749097
I asked for a list of what DaS2 did "best." I was given a shit list, and I told you exactly why DaS2 does NOT do the things on that list best.

The areas maybe larger, but that doesn't make the areas better, let alone the best.

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So.. where do miracles come from, and how are they different from sorceries? I mean they say it is from the gods, but they really outlived the gods themselves.

>>163749227
Player glow was a mistake. It made sense in DeS because you literally had a glowing rock on you, but the other games starting with DaS1 had lanterns/torches making it redundant.

>>163749367
It's what little magic there's left in the world

Just as there's some fire around

>>163749269
Only Astora GS is light, I don't know what did you expect from literal slabs of steel. I would recommend Earth Seeker but you seem like a [spoile]pussiboi[/spoiler]

>>163749367
Which explains why they are so weak in DaS3.

>>163749097
>community
it was a good post up until this """""word""""".
stopped reading right there.

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>>163742702
What bosses in DS3 are the most in need of jolly help?

>>163749346
>>163749097

The problem with luci is that he doesn't care about being right or making sense, he just cares about getting (you)s

hating DaS2 is a great way to get attention

>>163749367
>literally was asked in the last thread

Miracles are just a form of magic, which comes from the power of souls. All the god shit is just a ruse.

>>163749552
NK, Friede since new boss DLC fun stuff, Space Pope, Final Boss

>>163749386

See:
>>163742930
>>163742867

>>163749346
Gutter/Black Gulch, Shaded Woods, No Mans Wharf, Harvest Valley/Earthen Peak, Forest of the Fallen Giants, Huntmans Copse, Shrine of Amana, Tseldora, Shulva and Brume Tower are all pretty good areas.
It doesn't beat DeS were everything but 1-2 was fantstic, but it sure beats DaS1 were everything but Painted World, Catacombs, Sens Fortress and New Londo was pure shit.
Come at me with your dishonest >opinions

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>>163749553
Nah, if I want >(you)s I just post this. Shreking the boss that DaS2 babbies touted as the hardest boss ever always triggers them.

DaS2 is really shit. I would still be able to accept if it did something well. The problem is that it doesn't. Everything that it did well was either nerf, or had a fatal flaw which DaS3 fixed.

>>163749623
I just recently got into 3 after spending a shitton in 1 and 2. Pope is Pontiff?

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>>163749708

>>163749470
Zweihander?

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>>163749676
>Shaded Woods
>Harvest Valley/Earthen Peak
>Shrine of Amana
>Tseldora
>pretty good areas
i give no shit about your dispute with that tripfag but please remove yourself from this place immediately

>>163749802
Trash damage all around.

>>163749676
>everything but 1-2 was fantastic
I hate Stonefang Tunnel.
>cramped corridors which cause the shit camera to spazz out
>jumping puzzles with floaty DeS controls
>boring as shit enemies like pillbugs
>Dragon God
>eye-searing lava

Is anyone else experiencing lag and connection issues on PC?
I've run some tests and I don't think it's me. DS use steam servers and they might be overloaded because of the sales, but I don't know for sure.

Got DaS and DaS2 as stocking fillers for Christmas chaps.

Just killed the Crestfallen Knight after a dozen reloads at the first bonfire after the asylum though. Was that a daft idea?

>>163750114
He tells you what you're supposed to do in the first half of the game. Don't come here bitching about how shit the game is because you don't know what to do now. You brought it on yourself.

>>163749702
You ran out of smart things to say about DS2 a year ago. Just stop and leave the rest of this up to the professionals.

anyone can use your same shitty tactics to make an "argument" about why a game is shit.

Let me try:

Dark souls 1 is really shit. If I want (you)s I'll just post a webm of the Low Framerate Wolf. I would still be able to accept it if it did something well, the problem is that it doesn't.

>DS1 poise was fun
except it wasn't, it ruined pvp, hyperarmor makes so much more sense. If you like DS1 poise you're just an invader fag who is playing the game wrong

DS1 had the worst level design, here's an opinion why that you can't argue against because it's just my opinion

DS1 movesets were shit, weapon arts are so much better, even if you don't like weapon arts.

All of DS1's quality doesn't matter when there are too few weapons that are actually worth using

maximum DS1 damage control. Another day, another DS1 babby.

See? I can do it too!

Pull your own dick out of your ass.

>>163750153

No it was pretty funny, I attacked him out of curiosity but of course dying doesn't reset the game, so I had no choice other than to try to lead him off a cliff.

>>163750114
You're doing god's work. Taking the initiative to kill crestfallen right away, and being able to pull it off, is a sign you don't need his help to succeed in the game.

>>163750114
I don't know why you killed him but it wasn't a bad thing either way.

>>163749846
I think his criteria is "unique or unusual mechanics/gimmics", which would make sense given his picks. Shaded woods had fog and petrified statues, amana had the water, road, and casters, Tseldora had a fucking insane progression path and was deliberately easy to get lost in.

Not sure if that makes those areas good... but they were clearly planned out and interesting.

>>163750114
He is fairly unimportant, but you should avoid killing NPCs for the most part, else you will screw yourself over. If you want their drops, kill them right before NG+.

>>163750175
>except it wasn't, it ruined pvp, hyperarmor makes so much more sense
This is wrong, because HA only allows for trading hits while poise allows for a whole range of tactics.

>>163750318
haha holy shit you're still doing it

grow the fuck up.

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>>163750374
>I state a point and actually back it up
>retorts with a shit post and says I am the one that needs to grow up

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God there's so much hostility here. You guys really need to just fuck the shit out of each other and get it over with.

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>>163750307
Tseldora was sure as fuck not planned out in the slightest. That garbage even lacks a way to return to the second bonfire from lowest level, and all actually good vertical locations in fromsoft games like DS1 Catacombs or Great Archives exploit verticality to the fullest.

It's also the only place in franchise where you can get murdered before you reach the vendor unless you cut down myriad of spiders and snipe down obnoxious as shit magic snipers which is extremely irritating.

Yeah the other knight guy started attacking me for not backing off, and he doesn't seem as keen to jump off a cliff for me. Restart it is.

>>163750496
>lacks a way to return to the second bonfire from lowest level
warping is part of the game, doofus

I would kill for a DS1 Remake, DS2 and DS3 are just so bland in comparison

>>163750496
Getting to her was awful. I pissed away a bunch of souls trying to get to her.

And for the second game in the row, I put so much effort into getting that Dragonhunter Spear I think is so cool looking, just to find my divine claymore was better. So obnoxious.

>>163750721
Having to warp to travel through an area is shit design. The only ones that are justifiable are the ones after the arc demons, or whatever they were called in DaS2.

>>163750474
Bend over.

>people S T I L L reply to tripfags

jesus

>>163751010
What, no foreplay? Well aren't we eager

>>163751079
This kills the dsg

>>163750728
I've love a Demon's Souls remake on the ps4 because you can still play DS1 on pc and buying a ps3 for one game is a huge waste of money given how expensive the console is.

>>163751193
DeS is unlikely to every happen though. The rights are a fuster cluck.

>>163751179
I have been around longer than /dsg/ and was in the very first one and most of the following ones. Face it, I am a core part of /dsg/.

>>163751179

Not really.

I unironically think it should be in the OP of every thread on /vg/: ''KEEP IN MIND TO NEVER REPLY TO TRIPFAGS'', since many people seem to forget it.

>>163750921
>Having to warp to travel through an area is shit design.
You can travel through the area just fine, you just can't see everything in one go (unless you have the resources).

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>>163745179
That is a prime waifu

>>163742867
Does doing this still set you up for a softban?

>>163751316
RIP.
I'm not buying a dead console for a single game unless I get the whole package under 100$.

>>163750921
Old Ones.

And yes, I agree. Having warp from the start incentivizes shitty level design because devs are like "lol, we can make the player just warp between bonfires". DaS dodges that by not having the warp available at the start and DeS/BB dodge it by making so that you can only warp to and from the Nexus / Hunter's dream and when you're traveling in the game world you want to make use of the shortcuts instead of resting on a bonfire.

In Dark Souls games, resting on the bonfire gives you full flasks and so on so there's no reason to not do it if you can, but in DeS / BB it just basically gives you a loading screen.

>>163742702
can I change class with CE in DS3?

How did From fuck up the lighting in DS2 so much?

>>163752180
it works for me.

>>163743013
>another AAA title fails to live up to the communitys' expectations when the developer doesnt deliver on all the promises they made

unfortunately this is run of the mill so it doesnt feel like anything. Im a pessimist, so I'm never dissapointed while sometimes being pleasantly surprised

>>163751521
You can have shitty level design without warping, see Ash Lake. They really missed the opportunity to connect it to Tomb of Giants and Demon Ruins which are shit as well.
I'd rather have a warping system from the getgo, than deal with all this time wasting ever again.

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>>163752374
>see Ash Lake
Intended to be a secret level.

>Tomb of the Giants
Meant to be an "end of the line".

>Demon ruins
Ran out of time. It was a fucking shite level though so I'm not gonna defend it much.

>almost 2017
>people still upset that some people had fun with DaS2 for some reason
Maybe it's the depression, but I wish I had the energy to get upset about something so asinine.

>>163743013
DS3 was a good game.

>>163752536
>putting garbage into the game that ruins the experience is fine as long it is a ''secret'' no matter how obvious
k

>>163744424
Same. I guess there's less blues running around

Can someone tell me why I cant see any summon signs at all? Not even being summoed either.
SL65 weapon upgrade at +2.
I've checked 4 different locations and waited there with a summon sign for a good 15 minutes each.

>>163753243
>SL65 weapon upgrade at +2.
hmm

>>163752821
Ash Lake isn't really garbage, it's a very atmospheric area and if you haven't tagged the bonfire there it's not like you can't just homeward boner out of there.

Anyone has that image with a comparison of DS3 healing spells/skills?

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>>163753243
>SL65 weapon upgrade at +2.

>>163753338
I didn't upgrade much because on my previous character, all summoning stopped after I've upgraded to +10.
So what now? Should I up the SL or the weapon?

>>163753939
>SL65 +2
>Should I up the SL even more?

I love sales.

By 65 you should probably have a +7 or so weapon. Or said another way, you shouldn't have had a +2 anymore by the time you hit 30.

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Is it worth to keep upgrading this sword I got at the beginning of the game?

>>163754082
any weapon that obviously isn't terrible is more than capable of carrying you through the game

>>163754082
No. Longswords in Dark Souls 2 are bad.

>>163754153
Should I use Richard Rapier?

>>163754082
If you like the moveset then feel free to do that.

>>163754076
+2 or +3 is fine if the weapon caps at +5.

>>163754201
No, rapiers and the Estoc especially are even worse.

>>163754250
damn it looks really fun to use

>>163754321
Yep. Them's the breaks.

>>163754250
What? Craftsman Hammer and Estoc were all I ever needed for DaS2.

>>163754201
Upgrade any weapon you like swinging with and don't listen to people trying to ruse you.

>>163753848
What's this? Sounds like something I'd like to see as well.

>>163754082
I think this >>163754207 is one of the better sets of advice.

I like spears a lot but I simply find that in a lot of scenarios they are an inferior weapon to something with a solid horizontal swing. So I end up with claymores and similar just due to the move set.

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>>163753848
>>163754481

>>163754818
Many thanks. I'll save it this time.

>>163754818
That is terrific, thanks!

I'm very new to DS3 what is that "Blessed Weapon" effect in the Regen group? Is it a weapon art or something? I thought the blessed weapons just gave slow regen like in the bottom section listing.

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Gargoyles are literally harder than fume knight.
Multiple bosses will always be harder than singular boss.

>>163755353
It's a miracle, adds % based physical damage and slow regen.

>>163755353
It's a miracle that you buff your weapon with.

>>163755473
>>163755479
Ah ha, thanks!

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>>163755384
nvm just beat them so they're easy now.

Im being murdered over and over by the demon in iron keep.

Merry frickin christmas.

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>>163756161
Forgot pic

>>163756161
How? It's one of the easiest fights in the game.

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Why aren't you using a Mace and seeing your enemies driven before you?

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POST WEBMS

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>>163756505
Im terrible at timing the rolls once he flames on, i either delay too much and get hit or roll too soon and get hit, i cant seem to keep up the well timed rolls for long. Just alittle while ago when i almost killed him i waited for him to do something so i could heal and once i used my flask he did some sort of animation cancel and leapt at me and killed me, that was fun :^)

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How does one deal with this shit hole?

>>163756716
Oh you mean that one . I thought you meant the last boss of the area.

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>>163756840
Run through

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>>163756715

>>163756840
Fight them one at a time. Just keep looping around the area. Once you are down to one or two left, bait out their attacks near the wood planks to get the loot.

>>163756840
>run and aggro all fat rapists
>run to the hallway on the right
>pick out the fatties that can't fit through the hallway one by one

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>>163756715
>>163756660

Pt. 2: Blues are still useless edition

>>163749702
except fume is objectively an overtuned boss

he's not hard mechanically, it's just that you have virtually no room for error when fighting the nigger. the smallest screwup will cost you your life

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>light all the braziers(?)
>go ng+
>none of them are lit

>>163757293
Not really. He is just a "don't try to block" boss. Nothing more. I only took as much damage as I did because it was time I fought him and I wasn't expecting the bullet hell attack.

How easy is it to coop with dsg bros in DaS 1? I feel like another playthrough.

>>163758035
We don't want to play with you

>>163758035
How much are you willing to pay?

>>163743378
GSoJ has one and it's really ugly. Almost like it's applied to the wrong sword. Completely ruins my clean cut spellsword build.

>>163758035

You have to ask and you have to use DSCM if you're on PC.

>>163758609

What's DSCM?

>>163757347
>kill all the bosses
>go NG+
>none of them are dead

Wow wtf dark souls, why you gotta do me like that?

>>163758661
not the same thing kys

>>163758642

Dark Souls Connection Mod. It makes it easier to connect to other players.

>>163758715
You're right, having to kill bosses is actually fucking relevant, the entire world got reset and you're crying because it's a bit dark in places.

>>163756969
Did you vote for Hillary or Donald Trump?

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Finished my firstperson mod run not too long ago and now doing one with tiny mod. Any other mods that make another playthrough worth it?

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Hey, i'm getting destroyed by the twin princes on PC.

Any kind souls out there willing to lend me their hand?

Password: dsg

Bonfire: Grand Archives Bonfire, right after Dragonslayer Armor

>>163758992
Sent

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what do?

>>163759084
Learn gesture and agape ring at a reliable sm range.

>>163759084
Close the game and uninstall it

>>163759084
Stop playing Dark Souls 2

>>163759054
i don't see your sign. where is it?

>>163758872
Kindled bonfires stayed kindled in DS1.
It would be nice to feel like you actually did something by lighting the braziers.

>>163759084
>playing ds2
fucking piece of shit

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>>163759084
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>DORK SOULS 2
LMAO

>>163759084
Quit playing.

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>>163759084
>he plays ds2
>b-b-b-b-b-b-b-but its incompleteeeee
>bloodborne ruined it!!111!
kys

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Dark Souls II

>>163759054
REKT. Thanks Nana.

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>fuckboi
DS2 players amirite?

>>163759795
His face looks like he just ate shit.
Oh wait, he's playing in DS2.

>>163759243
You did do something, you lit a brazier, it illuminated the area and acted as a guidepost to see where you'd been, optionally you incited the wrath of some faceless invader who gave you neat stuff.
Two of these uses wouldn't work if they stayed lit between cycles.
Kindled bonfires remaining is different since you spent a resource on them, and you still had to reach them again to reap the benefits.

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>>163759743
You're welcome

>>163754082
Whats the drop rate on the foot soldier sword? looks fucking dope but ive never had it drop

>>163760369
its 0.00 stop playing this shitty game you loser

>>163758992
Still struggling? What SL?

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I have linked the flame.

>>163760516
Im not playing it im talking about it

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>replaying DS1
>that sudden understanding that firedrake actually guards the statue of Firstborn who became their ally
>that subtle connection between New Londo and Painted World

>all those samefag dasturds
LUL

>>163760746
Cuck.

>>163760785
t. headcanon :^)

>>163760814
>PCuck on damage control
kek

>>163761042
Fanfic is all there is to Souls ''story''.

is Solaire the best souls husbando?

>>163761289
No, Seath is

why is this thread filled with /v/edditors all of the sudden?

winter break from high school?

>>163761434
basically

>>163761289
No, Tarkus is

>>163761289
No, Pontiff is

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FINALLY, Now I just need the silver knight armour and the shield.

>>163761591
Go farm for ears.

>>163761536
Pontiff is an ugly withered hungry skelly lord

>>163761712

t. gwyndolin

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>>163761675
I'm so glad I don't need the miracles for my silver knight build.

What are the best arrows for the Millwood Greatbow?
Is there really that big of a difference between them?

who is best non-levelup girl souls waifu?

>>163761912
Gwyndolin

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>>163761912
Souls is pretty shit for waifus but I'd say maybe Priscilla?

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Drop me my fucking OLD WHIP YOU FUCKING CROWS

REEEEEEE

>>163760785
>connection between New Londo and Painted World
?????

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>>163756161
>>163756716
I FUGGIN DONE IT, I feel like ive become a better player because of this cunt boss, i gibbed pursuer right after without taking a hit.

>>163762080
but the CU had Anastacia

>>163762014
>boy
>waifu
come out of the closet, anon

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>>163762208
Anastacia doesn't even want to talk to the CU lmao.

>>163762292
How about you come into the closet with me~?

>>163762168
Same statue of a woman and child can be encountered in DS1 in both New Londo and Painted World and in DS3's Ariandel, albeit ruined.

>>163762080
Chosen Undead has Snuggly.

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>>163762454
Lmao you don't even see Snuggly.

>>163762386
that same statue can also be found in the Undead Parish and in Anor Londo, what's your point? it's a common religious icon for the WoW

>>163762512
What's your point?

PLEASE
HELP ME

>>163762336
CU has Quelana, who is the best teacher waifu in the series

>>163762604
FREE ME FROM THIS PLACE... BEFORE I GO MAD...

PLEASE... HELP ME... I KNOW I'M GUILTY, BUT I WON'T DO IT AGAIN, I PROMISE! THE DARKNESS, IT FRIGHTENS ME... AND WHAT RISES FROM ITS' VERY DEPTHS!

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>tfw you worry about the future of the Souls series.

BORN TO FARM
DMB IS A FUCK
Stab Em All 2016
I am mimic man
469351395368 dead silver knights

>>163762515
>that same statue can also be found in the Undead Parish and in Anor Londo
Nope.
> it's a common religious icon
A common religious icon ain't getting smashed all over the painted world and all paintings of her ain't confiscated and stored in Friede's room.

>>163762515
It's not the same though. Pay closer attention

>>163762813
>>163763061
you guys are welcome to post pics to prove your point

>>163762336
Who the fuck draws these
Where can I find more

>>163762607
>CU has Quelana
Quelana dumps him when he learns all from her then goes to her sister and dies alongside her.

CU is just hopeless. He's a tool in a game of powerful beings, forever alone and always loses no matter what in the end.

>>163763097
How about you posting pics of parish and al statues first to prove your point.

Do we already know what determines if Millwood gets to WA-R1?

>>163763225
the guy making the original claim is the one who has to prove his point, fucker, you wanna show identical statues in the Painted World and in New Londo that are found nowhere else, post pics or shut up

anyone else has to end the ds3 process multiple times before the game actually opens up? im tired of that shit

>>163763143
He gets to fuck wrinkly mouldy Moss Merchant pussy
Dusk too, I guess?

why does no one in these threads like Rhea?

>>163763097
I'm on mobile and far away from any PC with dark souls. If no one else has by then, I will post pics in 20 hours. However, you are the one who claimed they are the same, technically we are only obligated to show that the new londo and painted world statues are the same.

So, replaying DeS since forever, and the royalty starting class has me thinking about DaS3:
>Simple ring: spells cost 50% more to cast, cast speed reduced, but regen magic power slowly
Yea? No?

>>163763143
yeah but they still fucked, right?

>>163763409
Astraea knockoff and pretentious little cunt. Bitch acts high and mighty because she was born with a certain name. If she didn't sell some good shit, she'd get her face punched all the way in right after Capra every time

>>163763409
Because she goes hollow

>>163763598
I just want the circlet head gear back.

>>163763108

Setz.

>>163763598
Either becomes mandatory in place of sage or it's useless and everyone just ringswaps it when they are saf to regen

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>>163763225
>>163763329
holy fucking shit you bunch of spergs and autists unable to spend 2 seconds in google
be glad that i was around the same areas

>>163762192
What sword is that?

>>163764049
mastodon greatsword

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>all these mad DS3 cucks because DS2 is a better game

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>>163764257
>DS2 is a better game

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>>163762118
>samus build

>>163742702
Struggling with 4 kangz as a warrior. How am I supposed to avoid that magic attack that follows you? ad I supposed to run until it goes because that takes forever, do people use shields on it? ( I never use shields)

I know he's doable but it seems to depend on what moves they feel like doing. Him and nito have been the only bosses I've struggled with so far, though I could have went to nito after doing other areas first making him much easier.

>>163764257
/dsg/ noob here to tell you that both are great but 3 is slightly better.

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>>163764257

>>163764257
>DaS2fags this delusional

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>>163764407

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>>163764340

I just wish I could match other helmets with the alonne captain armor but I can't because it's fucking purple

Good thing Samus is purple too

>>163764041
isn't that Velka or something?

>>163764493
>/dsg/ noob

>>163764595
Just tried it and it barely helped, exactly the same as when someone recommended it against nit. I don't get the recommendation.

To be fair I haven't upgraded my flask once on this game because I don't know how to. That obviously isn't helping at this stage.

>>163764257
>DS2/3
>Good
Neither of them should exist

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>>163764802
Yes, most likely.
And if Velka is really connected to New Londo, girl with her is probably Painter as she's a crossbreed with eyes of primordial serpents.

This would also explain how Friede learned about painted world in first place and why she is so jealous of her, to a point of confiscating all paintings of her and stacking them all in this room and destroying all statues of her.

what is DLC 2 going to be about?

Why do the dogs teleport

>>163765187
Angels and Dark Soul of Man probably.

>>163765096
Talk to the firekeeper below the Firelink Shrine bonfire, using fire keeper souls, and if you've Killed pinwheel, you can kindle bonfires with humanity, giving you 5 estus per kindlement

>invade crux woods and cathedral at low level
>using a raw build with END gouging
>no one is prepared for when I swing on them like 6 times with a GS

never gets old :^)

>>163765109
If DaS2 had another name it would be great.
DaS3 is shit no matter what.

is it possible to do anything with the extra kindle item you get in ds1? i never figured it out

>>163765176
who keeps popping out all these damn crossbreeds?

also, why would Velka take an interest in Hollows/New Londo/Londor?

most bosses in ds3 should have had more health. like at least twice as much.

>>163765461
Maybe she likes them because Hollows, having no mind cannot consciously sin

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Is it easy to find your friends in dark souls 2 and 3 PC? Can you use some sort of program like in DS1 or isn't it needed?

>>163765310
There's only a cage and it says 'dead' so that means I can't even upgrade it now?

I killed that boss. Are you talking about the boost from 5 flasks to 10 because I've already been doing that. God this game is good but fucking retarded compared to the others.

>>163765660
it's not needed, in ds3 you can just use a pass, in ds2 you can use a ring i think but it's optional. no mods needed

>>163765461
>who keeps popping out all these damn crossbreeds?
Powerful beings who live too long and develop kinky fetishes.
>also, why would Velka take an interest in Hollows/New Londo/Londor?
Because she governs all sin which is a domain of humans and Londo/Londor's ideology is aimed at preserving humans above all else, even if they go hollows.
She also seems to be into occult shit in general given that her corvians drop sinner's ears in DS1 and Ariamis has a shitload of occult items like occult ember.

>>163765709
Did you find a black eye orb on it?
if so it's time to take another visit to anor londo

>>163765754
>sin is a domain of humans and so she likes Londor because they aim to Make Humanity Great Again
back up and explain your reasoning here

>she's into Occult shit
well yeah that part makes sense, since the Gods have sinned a ton and they all deserve punishment