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>Gobbo Archers
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>>163734964

absolutely
HERETICAL
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I came down from karak norn one day looking to sell some arrows to some guy I knew in some Brettonian shithole, when I noticed a light coming from somewhere out in the woods alongside the path I was on. Being the inquisitive dawi I am I went to go investigate, and stumbled upon a tranquil little pond I had never seen before. The glow was coming from the pond itself, and I was ready to leave and write it off as elf non-sense when all of the sudden, this tall beautiful woman rose from the pond, butt-ass naked, with long perfect hair that just barely covered her tits - now I usually like my woman short and hairy, but this was an opportunity I could not pass up. So this lady just pounces on me, still covered in pondwater, and starts ripping me armor off! Next thing you know I'm shoving my huge, thick 4 inch dwarven cock into this lady's asshole (she said she was saving her virginity for some wazzock named leon). After about 4 hours of violating her tight pink asshole (dawi are known for their endurances), I pull out and spray her supple tits with a massive load of my mineral-rich seed. As I'm getting dressed and getting ready to leave the lady (as she calls herself) sinks back into her little pond, but not before giving me a piece of parchment with the address of some place in athel loren so that we can meet up later and shag again. As I put the paper in my pocket, I noticed my az was gone, replaced by an umgi-sized blade that was surrounded by this magical pale flame, just like those horse-knights use.

Long story short, I'm now eskimo brothers with every single grail knight in brettonia
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>>163735110

Do your worst foul beasts, for we are willing to die for Our Lady if we must!

Praise the Lady!

THE LADY IS GREAT
THE LADY IS GREAT
THE LADY IS GREAT
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>>163735210
YO HO HO
YO HO
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Day 216
Warhammer is still shit.
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rate my army comp lads
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>>163735213

Our only strategy is to PRAISE THE LADY
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>>163735253
https://youtu.be/4IU7ia0XIGg
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>>163735323
>warrior priest of sigmar praising the lady

I think not, foul pretender.
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Rejoice! For a Knight of Bretonnia provides your shield.
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http://store.steampowered.com/app/201274/

>The Obama Faction
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>>163659851
Well I got kemmler. I already did a campaign with him but that was before The King The Warlord dlc. Should I bother doing it again? Has his campaign gotten any better?
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>>163735323

THE LADY DID NOT PREPARE ME FOR THIS, BUT I SHALL REMAIN STRONG
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Should I play vanilla third age or DAC?
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>>163735471
They're actually pretty good

>Great starting area, similar to the Ikko Ikki, with blacksmithing, high fertility and chokepoints
>dat income and repression bonus
>also le haha obama wuz da president n shieet
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>>163735595

Same fucking turn.

I've never fought beastmen before, fuck these niggers.
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do you try to complete chapter side objectives? I know burning through the chapters makes chaos spawn faster, but some of the objectives are fucking impossible.
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>>163735827
That lord will pretty much solo your army.
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Can you fuck a Harpy?
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>>163736152
I try as much as possible because it feels better and the gold bonus is nice. I wish the main objectives were more detailed like the side objectives, capture/raze/sack 20 villages is such a lame main objective.
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>>163736152
Their talons would be extremely painful.
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>>163736651
perhaps he is wondering why she would claw a man before dropping him from such a height
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>>163736651
>>163736542
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Why the fuck do soldiers in my armies keep defecting when trying to start a battle? (FOTS)
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>>163736968
loyalty of general
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Should I declare war on the Pope? He keeps breaking my balls over Ravenna and calling Charlie to come in and fuck me up for him. I'm sick of his passive aggressive shit, but I also don't know what the consequences are like.
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>>163737194
unless you are on legendary you should create a save and then just go for it
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>>163737194
Excommunication and severe diplomatic penalty with all Christian factions.

Attack the pope you pussy.
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>>163737395
Fuck the lily white bastard. I'll put in my own fucking pope.
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>>163737498
now rename your best army "the papal bulls"
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How you like me now?

Going north now to find Charlie.
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I wish the theme of sicily mod didn't make them so overpowered, its like the guy copy pasted stats from the grand campaign without realising that they work differently in AoC, its like missile damage, all units have 39, except avars, but he gave all ERE archers 49 which makes them extremely strong, and the 75 damage on xbows is insane by AoC standards, it should be 60 max
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vintage carpet
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guys which tw should i buy for the mad mawds, atilla or Rome 2?
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>>163738459
not sure why the sprites are so blurry in some of these screenshots might have to mess with AGP memory
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Gentlemen, how do we make Beastmen fun?
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>>163738614
I love playing as Beastie Boyz
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>>163738481
Rome 2 is terrible and has only one noteworthy mod.
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>>163739074
fuck off radious
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>>163738459
>>163738541
Makes me want to play Myth 2
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If a lord has a skill that increases his...reinforcement range does that increase the area of control he has to catch enemy forces in an ambush?
I've got this general who in my head is just the absolute master of gorilla warfare, he's got a bunch of ambush skills, and whose current purpose in life is recreating 'Nam in Athel Loren against the Knife Eared Charlie.

Of course the AI cheats and i'm sure will just pixel walk past somehow, but If I could close off this choke that would be great.

Also what would be the best ambushing forces for the Empire or Brettonia (I plan to have one general once Bretonnia is released similar to that pissed off Englishman from the Patriot)
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Gentlemen, how do we make Greenskins survive?
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Charlie finally showed up. This isn't going to end well for him.
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>>163739483
>the papal bulls
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>>163739687
It was the army that took Rome as well.
My elderly king died during the battle, but Charlie and his frankish fuckboys were thoroughly destroyed.
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>mfw it's stabby time
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>>163739885
you fukt up
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>>163739948
How so?
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>>163739979
by losing your king
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>>163740006
He was blind, flaccid and sterile, as well as being 80something years old. It's no great loss.
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After losing Lyon to my forces Charlie starts to get second thoughts.
It is not yet time to come to the bargaining table though.
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The Everchosen? More like the Evergay
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>enemy generals face when their wooden shitships blown up by foreign ironclad
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>>163740931
More like the Eversmug
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>>163740521
>Has a Dislikes Lombards trait
>Not a Dislikes Saxons trait

Why though?
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>>163740046
thats a glorious ending anon, you did well
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>>163735175
I like this pasta
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>>163740931
Fuck off shitmarite
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>>163741682
When will the Chaos Gods replace this shit-tier Everchosen with Attila?
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>>163741289
Because the Pope paid him off, the backstabbing fucker.

How do I fix this fucking mess? I have one person in my family that I can actually use to do anything and he's got jack shit for influence. I have to constantly secure loyalty of my generals and governors or they keep going rogue. The old king wasn't any better either.
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now this is horsefuckery! have a taste of your own medicine northman scum.
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>>163741862
Whoops, forgot pic.
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>>163741929
you should have adopted a few of the generals, also governor role gives a lot of influence eventually, so thats something you should have in your family
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>>163742664
Good to know. I've started suiciding my generals during battles to rid myself of the troublesome ones. I'm going to get my new king married off asap and then start adopting.

In the meantime, fucking vassals getting into all sorts of silly shit.
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> Tomb Kings still not announced
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>>163742803
Ah, the old age tactic of sending generals alone against armies so they die. I perfected during Rome to get rid of sons who simply did not make the cut. Many won glory.
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>>163742803
>I've started suiciding my generals during battles to rid myself of the troublesome ones

over 200 hours and this never once occurred to me
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>>163743050
I did it alot in Rome and Shogun 2. Shogun to get rid of dudes who had low loyalty and at least slow down stacks and in Rome to get rid of Generals that had bad traits, like impotent and the like. Once I even had a guy actually win against barbars and then I decided to keep using him (not alone) until he was a perfect heir.

He was a good friend.
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>>163743171
How did you even manage to get disloyal generals in Shogun 2?
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>>163743320
They weren't exactly disloyal, they had lvl 3 loyalty and that wasn't enough for me, I guess. I haven't played it in a long time, I've actually been enjoying Rome 2 for some reason.
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>>163743320
By letting your daimyo have fewer stars than your generals; adopting sons for family generals, and promoting new generals for non-family generals.

Also by having a dishonorable daimyo you don't get that +2 loyalty bonus.

>>163743404
How did you even get a general with level 3 loyalty? In the lategame the bonus from honor alone kept most of them above 4, and the game throws Trait:Loyal at you for free.
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OUR HORSES LOVE BLOOD
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>>163743468
I don't think I did at late game, I did in the beginning of campaigns or middle if I remember correctly. I dunno, I never put much thought into it I guess.
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>>163743601
WE WILL PIERCE THEIR HEARTS
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>>163743747
I want a bearded barbar cupid drawing with that line
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>>163741682

>Hates the gods
>plays right into their hands by destroying the world

DAMAGED
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>>163742803
you don't need to be married to adopt actually, also why is it Byzantine Empire and not Theme of Sicily?
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>>163744418
The marriage was to try and pump out some spawn as quickly as i could. I tried adopting but must have had bad luck or something, never worked.
I think it's one of the mods I have on. There's a big AoC unit mod which I think changes it.
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>>163744619
>There's a big AoC unit mod which I think changes it.
I'll have to check them out, the tiny unit variety is a major turn of despite the overall campaign being really fun

I also remembered another way to raise power - make sure its you who is occupying various office spots, in AoC office holders get a large influence per turn bonus, as opposed to the main campaign where it actually lowers your influence too much

also try using the gather support option
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>>163744921
It's this one http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=577840158

but I also had this as well to further bulk it out even further
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=576108597
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What fucking difference does it make that the lady of the lake was Lileath to the Bretonnians. How does that make her any less the lady of the lake?
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>>163735086
Will CA finally notice this meme and do something about it?
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DLC when?
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>>163745554
Isn't Age of Sigmar the game where if you pretend you're riding a horse you gain a bonus or something?
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>>163745237
Yeah I never knew why it really mattered. I read the end times passage and in there she's cold but then again so are most gods. It's not like humans have never had non human formed gods. She could have had more tact, but Jerrod went full fucking autistic in the whole whaaaah knife ears not round ears idea. Like what the fuck just save the world dude.

It's especially funny at his horror of being turned into eternal ghost warriors to defend lillieths realm, when fuck signature does the exact same thing to the storm cast eternals in age of sigmar. She's literally no different from sigmar except tits, pussy, being a QT and knife ears.
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>>163745601
The game has a few jokes in its legacy unit rules yeah.
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>mfw cut content
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Can I pirate DLC?
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>>163745237
because the brettonians hate elves, and if the peasants were to find out that they are kept in extreme poverty not to serve the benevolent protectors of the realm who provide their shield, but some knife-eared whore's fucktoys, shit would hit the fan
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>>163745717
Rome 2 faces in battles are great, aren't they?
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>>163745718
No
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>All I am surrounded by is fear
>and manlets
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If dwarfs hate elves so much, why dont they just take an armada of gyrocopters and go Vietnam on the forest?
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>>163745828
They don't hate elves. On 5th edition Bret's and woodies got along well. And after that the Bret's are at most uneasy about elves when they live next to the wood
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>>163746085
Because they would get sniped by magical archers
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>>163746028
>turbo manlets
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>>163746085
>implying they didn't do it
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>>163746085
Eagles and dragons will fuck up a gyrocopter
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Who would win, the entire armed forces of the dwarves or a bunch of elves with bows
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>>163746208
Elves.
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So how's the game since the Beastmen/Wood Elves launched?

All these new units look pretty schnazy.
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>>163746119
>not hating the immortal xenophobic race that constantly kidnaps your children & murders your citizens
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>>163745919
Gay
This shit isn't even on a sale, they are going full jew
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So any sound tactics for dwarves? I'm noobboxing the hell out of my game, substituting lack of cavalry with artillery hellfire. All of my enemies bring lots of cavalry, especially elves and orcs
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>>163746425
unfortunately most successful tactics require being taller than 4'
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>>163746375
BUY THE DLC ALREADY YOU FUCKER
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>>163746473
>lanklets in charge of giving out tactical advice
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overhauls like Steel Faith?
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>>163746570
Radious
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>>163746570
Lorehammer.
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>>163746681
>Two Handed Goblin (Shield) (Frenzy) (Warpaint) (Slug Skin) (Edgy)
No thanks
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>>163746681
>Radious
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>>163746762
>>163746791
Superficially, Radious mod appears to be a mod which caters to the most proletarian among men; aloof critics dismiss it as such often without a second thought. As complacent as these self-proclaimed "understanders of strategy" are, they fail to realize that Radious mod is a cult classic, a chef d'oeuvrea buried under false preconceptions and unfounded criticism. This gem is hidden because it does not shine; it is buried because its tone is that of abyssal black. Radious mod pries into to the darkest corners of our subconscious, the most visceral of our cognition, the most carnal of our urges, and the most primal of our instincts.

As brilliantly put by Cattalus, "Pedicabo ego vos et irrumabo"; to describe the artistic qualia of Radious mod would be to describe music to the deaf, color to the blind or beauty to the philistine. The painting speaks for itself, and it is up to the player to fully absorb its depth. Its sublimity will ever be debated yet always remain objectively irrefutable; the fundamental insight it provides into human and perhaps animalistic nature may shape the basis of Total War modding for centuries to come.
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>>163746119
>5th Ed
This is why we hate fantasy fags on /tg, you just refuse to accept canon and go all MUH personal specific, sum of all canon, head canon is official
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>>163746890
Isn't that the mod that puts the upkeep of armies so low that there are suddenly dozens of armies per faction?
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>>163746760
This doesn't look updated
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>>163746909
How do I enable mods if I'm already subbed to them on the workshop
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>>163746954
Yes. Also the new units are basically garbage that make every faction as similar as possible.

Also it doesn't work anymore because the maker quit modding a few months ago.
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>>163747074
Radious for Shogun 2 was fucking retarded. Samurai units had like, 50 upkeep. Stacks, OVERFLOWING THROUGH ME
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>>163735281
I've been using pic related as my basic army composition so far in shogun 2, is there anything I should be changing anons?
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>>163747216
MORE ARCHERS
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>tree hitler declares war the moment he finds out that I exist on the other side of the mountains
This is silly
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>>163747216
Nowhere near enough archers for Chosokabe.
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>>163747251
Rome posting is best posting
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>>163747251
No, this is TOTAL WAR
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>Warhammer has terrible battle maps compared to Shogun
How does this happen?
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>>163747406
>one battle map for one region
>maps aren't generated based on army location and terrain
That's why
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>finally get alternate loading screens working
>screen goes black
Well this is gonna be a fun day
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>>163747406
Opinions I guess. I like them. I wish they were slightly slower though. All that is moddable anyway.
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>>163747546
unsubbed from SFO, hopefully my campaign wasn't already running on that
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>>163747349
If it's so good, how come it didn't keep the empire alive?
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>>163747406
>Warhammer has terrible battle maps compared to Shogun

Spot the non-trash battle map
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>>163747406
maps don't make sense either. reinforcements seem to sometimes come in the opposite of where they would from the campaign map, the defending team should always have the high ground or at least more defensible terrain, unless they are forced march, in which case they should at least have the worst terrain and probably should be getting ambushed instead.

sallying out to attack a sieger should also give you the terrain advantage, because if you are doing it right the only defensible location around a town should be the town itself. trees should be cut down, hills flattened, whatever you can do to make sure there isn't a spot for an enemy army to camp out on while waiting for you to starve to death.
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>>163747982
Can Attila do literally anything wrong?
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>>163747982

I want to play Attila now but I have to study ;_;
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>>163748028
Yeah, the setting
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>>163748113
well that's just like, your opinion man
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>>163748028
Rarely a late game rival empire to deal with because everything is razed and the AI starves itself to death all the time.

Also all spearmen AI armies all day.
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>>163748153
As opposed to yours I guess
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>>163748229
ya I like the setting, the only real problem is there isn't much of a diversity in units, but I love shogun 2 and that is much worse in terms of variety. and I think they did a good job of creating and sticking to the theme that the world is ending. I wish they could recreate that a bit better with the chaos invasion in warhammer, because as it stands it just feels like a small little force whose main challenge is just chasing them down and pinning them.

maybe instead of the cinematic playing when they spawn, it should play when you first see archaeon on the map, making it a bit of a surprise when he shows up, with the only hints the sudden increase in factions north of you being destroyed. Or maybe just spawning chaos rebels tied to how corrupt your lands are instead of public order so having a few taverns doesn't just negate the apocalypse.
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Didn't help that everyone blobbed around the handgunners when the vargheists charge but it was alright and can recruit more now I have Waldenhof
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>>163746890
go away radious no one likes you here
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So what is this meme with the incredibly strong welfs, we are on turn 90 and I have never fought them.
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I finished every campaign, except the Beastmen and Welfs, on legendary. What should I do now?
Is Kraka Drak any good?
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>>163748981
i also don't understand this. I've done 3 campaigns since and haven't experienced an issue with WE's steamrolling. maybe its a normie difficulty thing?
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>>163749002
I had a lot of fun playing them, especially with the ability to conquer anywhere. After beating chaos I decided everyone else had to be grudged for not helping out enough and had a massive war with everyone who was left.
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>>163748981
>>163749038

In most games they immediately blob hard into Bretonnia and, after a little bit, will declare war on Angrund and start blobbing out that way.

In my current Very Hard Empire campaign I'm on turn 112 and haven't fought them at all, but despite me having a bunch of full late-game stacks the Elves are still Strength Rating 1 with me at 2
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I get about 60 turns into the Chaos campaign and lose all will to keep going.

If I defeat big bird do I get him as a recruitable general afterwards? That might help me keep going if that is the case.
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>>163749121
They will come for your anal bro.
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>>163749237

Unfortunately Chaos is a whole lot of no fun at all.
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Somehow Templefhof survived but they don't have a general
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>>163749301
It's sad, they have a great roster as well
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>>163749339

They do, generals can be hidden behind question marks like normal troops.
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GIVE ME GLORY
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>>163749538

rerolling because I already did a Wurrzag
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>>163749538
Show me VC
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>>163748981
In most cases on easy or medium the AI won't stomp you. There are also lucky and unlucky starts regardless of the difficulty. For example my recent Dwarf legendary campaign was boring because the purple dwarfs destroyed Grimgor and conquered the badlands.
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>People in ancient times thought people with blue eyes were untrustworthy

Poor snowniggers victim of discrimination
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>>163749538

Looking at this chart, are there any other races that they will add which will be hordes? I think they've done all the horde-esque factions so far and I can't think of anymore.
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AHH ROME
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Why are Vargheists so easily stuck in CC, as apart from that the battle went just fine
>>163749803
skaven? DE will be raiding parties certainly, so maybe like the roman expedition in atilla
>>163749758
nords thought blonde hair blue eyed people were closer to the gods so only they could do magic and thus it was more permissable if they caught sucking someone off as they were just doing what odin had done for thousands of times before
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>>163749842

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Rome....
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>>163749870
And they still fucking survive WADDAFUYCK
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>>163749879
I have seen the end of days, and years from now men will say:

HERE BEGAN THE FALL OF ROME

[muffled throat singing]
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>>163735049
How good is Age of Charlememe, really?

Got it ages ago but I don't think I actually played it. How different from Vanilla Attila will it be?
I generally play as a British faction
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>>163746284
Fucked if you're not playing as elves. Make sure you stay friendly with them or have fun facing 5+ stacks of top-tier units by turn 50 that will ignore every other threat and chase you down like a fucking heat seeking missile.

I've heard stories of people playing chaos campaigns and winning by just camping in the north doing some occasional raiding. The Wood Elves shit all over brettonia every time and often the empire as well. I've yet to play a game where they're not #1 in strength.

Honestly I could deal with this shit if it wasn't for the fact that wood elf armies are insanely powerful against your average infantry rank and file. You need stacks of pure late-game cavalry, flyers and anti-large to stand any sort of chance against them.
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>>163750290
>I've heard stories of people playing chaos campaigns and winning by just camping in the north doing some occasional raiding.

I can confirm this. I won the short campaign last night because the Wood Elves destroyed the Empire and Brettonia.
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>>163750290
>>163750394
Does that make the campaign a lot faster? On release I quite enjoyed sitting in Sylvania as VC and playing politics while preparing for the Chaos invasion, they sound worse?
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>>163750156
Brilliant. It'll make you want Medieval 3 more than anything though.
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i've never had anyone to play the total war series with, ever.. so i've allways played alone. then get invited to a gathering with some friends. there i meet this guy who's into warhammer like me. and now we're doing multiplayer battles and campaigns. Is this real life?
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>>163750471
Yes, in a way. Basically there is two invasions now, one from the north and one from the west.
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>>163750498
I already do ;_;
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>>163749616
I'll show you my dick, dude.
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>>163750038
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dh9HI4eudR8
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>>163750536
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What happened with Gook? Anyone remebers him?
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>>163750870
Someone came on a picture of his face and he stopped posting.
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>>163750870
He commited sudoku because of>>163750906
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>>163749616
Best start settling EVERY GROODGE.
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As anyone noticed than in warhammer the units look samey? I don't mean armie comp or anything like that, I mean in the same unit everyone seems the same. In Rome 2 and Attila they looked very different.
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>>163750671
Attila's music is pretty great.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UfYOLJqt4OU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0E2bT2zKXo0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYUZsy_U8IE
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>>163750471

>Does that make the campaign a lot faster?

Not really, Wood Elves add some much needed late-game challenge to the game, previous to the inclusion you would basically always have won the game by the time the Chaos invasion was over, with everything that remained being mindless busywork.

Wood Elves actually put up a fight
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>>163749538
rollin up
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I wish Attilas voice acting was better.
Bit annoying playing slavs and hearing some warrior yell out 'FOR THE TRIBE!' in an American accent.
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>>163751054
WE HUNGAH FOR BLUD AND BATTAL
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>>163751054
Well, Americans are barbarians, so that's as accurate as you can get.
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>>163751225

>Posted from my sharia compliant cuckshed while giving sons and daughters to shitskins.
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>>163749538
Finished long quest yesterday with the empire. looking forward to playing other races.
>tfw Kislev dont want to trade you :(
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>>163751470
>60%
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>>163751054
Sometimes, in Rome 2 as the Iberians, your units will shout things as if they were Roman.
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>>163751549

>clappingterroristclockman.png
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>>163751470
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I want to be dominated by a best elf!
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Whats a good magic overhaul mod that makes magic useful and fun?
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>>163749870
>Why are Vargheists so easily stuck in CC
CA changed the takeoff timer :*(
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>>163751738
There's only one of note at present.
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>>163751470
>getting triggered this easily
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>>163751054
AT THE DOUBLE
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Tomb kings fucking WHEN
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>>163751998
Shogun 2 Engrish voice acting was fun
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>>163752012

Ogre Kings fucking WHEN
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HORSES
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>>163752185
Can't wait to make my swamp great again
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>>163745237
because she wasn't their special goddess.
She used them, gave them no peace in the afterlife and their entire society which was built around fealty to the lady for a better afterlife was false.
All those crusades? yeah, the lady didn't will it, she was off playing minecraft.
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>oh, this unit is climbing over my walls
>I'll send my General's cav charging into it, I've basically won this battle anyways
>yari infantry, still crush them but lose everything except for 5 horses
I really need to start reading these things.
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>drawn out siege against VC, no Crossbowmen
>lots of luring and fucking around with Gunners at the gates
>send Franz into an almost wiped unit of GG on the walls
>Deathclaw crushes into the wall, he slides down in a straight line
>Curses, our lord has been wounded
>Alt F4

I really don't feel like going back to this campaign, what the fuck
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I know it is autistic but it would be a thousand times less immersion breaking if units used ropes and grappling hooks to climb walls in warhammer instead of magical ladders from hammerspace

also, multiple wall sieges WHEN
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>>163753293
yare yare daze...

gitu good faggoto
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TWW just makes me want to play Attila/Shogun 2 desu
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>>163753379
kill the necromancer, stop the one who moves the dead.
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>>163753518
It's because of the samey units. Seriously, zooming in in Warhammer ain't as fun as in Rome, Shogun or Attila.
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fucking ikkifags had a bunch of missionaries spamming their retarded actions for their meme religion which made the last turns take way longer than they should have

Having bows that were basically rine infantry was pretty ebin, but the post-realm divide naval stuff was a massive pain in the ass. Constant 1-2 ship fleets fucking around blockading random ports being a pain in the ass.

Do I do RotS or a different faction for the Grand Campaign next?
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>>163753731
RotS isn't that fun, but if you never tried it go for it. Get ready for alot of men dying though. Oh, and your ally backstabbing you in turn 6 for some reason.
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>>163736651
You're a big guy
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>>163751029
>Late-game
If you call turn 50 late game I envy you.
In my empire Campaign I barely had the time to annex Marienburg and the pointy-ears were already strolling towards Nuln, razing or annexing everything on their path.
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>>163750998
>>163749616
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Is there a way to increase labour force? On the TWC forums I read some guy talk about how it's calculated from the siege length (wut) so could I get my siege engines quicker if the lord/hero specialized in attrition?

Having to wait four turns to construct 4 siege towers with a full stack is annoying

>>163735827
I think that dude counts as a large, fight him in the forest
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>>163753894
yeah is this intentional? it seems to me that the elfs are just out of control yo

>>163753932
bring a monster unit so it can beat down the door. i got a trait (or he allways had it dunno) that makes it possible to start a siege battle instantly, vlad just go mad at the door then kills everything inside.
i wish vlad could regen forever in campaign
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SKAVEN WHEN?
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I haven't bought a new TW game since Shogun 2. Are they worth it/OK now? I am looking at Attila and Rome 2 since they are on sale and Warhammer is a bit expensive for me. Do I NEED the DLCs with either game as well?
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>>163753731
Fall of the Samurai
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>>163745554
Fuck off.
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>Playing vampire counts
>beat chaos, beat the northmen and now dwarfs declare war on me
>their armies are 50% ironbreakers
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>>163754035
It's not intentional. WE have a great bonus to auto-resolves (probably thanks to units having a lot of value both in melee and at range) which makes them stroll trought the AI armies.
They're also a pain in the ass to fight at higher difficulties because their "frail" line units become unbreakables and their ranged units murder everything with indirect fire.
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>>163749538
Sure hope I don't get Empire again.
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>>163754142
I've heard nothing but good things about Attila and nothing but bad things about Rome 2. I like Warhammer the best because dat fantasy boner but if it's too expensive pick up Attila and call it a day.
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When a province is maxed out, the population surplus just keeps growing. Is there some benefit to it? Will they flock to neighboring provinces? Or should I just dismantle these fields and build something else?

Also, what hero/lord units counts as large? That minotaur lord is large since minotaurs are too, right?
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>>163754450
Primarily unit size affects auto resolve quality
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>>163753381
Chaos had a unit for exactly that too.
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New to TW series, should I get TWE? I bought Napoleon and thought it was pretty good so far, but I've heard that a lot of stuff in Empire is imbalanced or just plain broken.
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>>163754875

Grappling hooks are sick.
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>>163741682

Nice spurdo, but the everchoosen is best chaos because he hate the chaos gods.
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>>163754579
Rome 2 isn't very very good, but right now it's actually good. The campaigns have a bit more personality, especially with mods like 4 turns (with research and build times) per turn and the like. The battles last, usually, between 5 and 10 minutes, some mods can make them last longer.

The performance ain't that bad either.
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>>163754997
Modded empire is nice. Napoleon is fun for its unique charm
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Warhammer is to edgy for me.

Like, why would you want to join stupid vampire that have no noses, no dick?

Or chaos that are a bunch of homosexual bears addicted to buttsex?

Too much edginess in one lore and game.

Also, how does rape works in this lore? Chaos, beasts, vampires, when they kill and pillage cities what do they do to women and children? If you want to be dark there's should be a mention to what they do to women.

Pathetic game, pathetic lore. We have game of thrones, lord of the rings, even starcraft brood war have nice books. I really dont understand how can anyone enjoy this pile of garbage

Going to finish this piece of shit game as the empire and never touch again. I cant stand these chaos and vampires thinking they are tough when they dont even have sex.
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>>163755887
So sex makes you tough?
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>>163755887
>EDGY GUYS
ok then.
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>>163751054
>american
But Anon CA is british
>>163751470
50%
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>>163755997
>>163756543

Typical warhammer autist fans

The lore is for kiddies.

Go listen to doom metal friend.
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>>163756630
What is the meaning of the 60%/50% thing?

>>163756684
Yeah, it's for kiddies. Just like video games.
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>>163755997
I think this anon is doing a little roleplay in his head each time he conquers a city in a TW game, where he forcefully thrusts his hips up, licking his lips and mumbling about rape and wenches under his breath.

How this is not edgy but Warhammer on the other hand is TOO edgy I really don't know. The thing about his post is that its almost not weird enough to be obvious shitposting but rather believable enough that I can see some guy from this thread doing this.
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>>163749538
Rolling for next campaign
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>>163756735
only 50% are """""white"""" if you don't count latinos
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>>163756684
>autist fans.
But fans can't be autistic, they're inanimate objects.
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>>163756684
This is some lazy bait anon.
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>>163756743
I mean, I get it, people used to rape and pillage and all of that, but it seriously doesn't help my immersion if the game reminds me about rape 24/7. I don't even think it's important, I mean, isn't killing people a bit more "edgy" then?

Also, wouldn't the only rapists be Slaaneshi demons in the haos armies? I don't think Khorn or Tzeentch or Nurgle would give a flying fuck about it.

What the fuck does it accomplish anyway, I just want to see my dudes make funny faces when they get to kill other little dudes.

>>163756887
Thanks friendo.
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>>163755887
>>163756684

Dumb frogposter
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>>163756684
>doom metal
BITCH CUNT FAGGOT POURING BLOOD OVER MY FORESKIN MY FOREEEEEESKINNNNN MAAAAAH FOREEESKIN adult enough for you now?
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I'm doing hardware shopping for post-Christmas. Please post your specs(cpu/gpu/resolution/ssd - yes or no) and framerates you get in Warhammer/Attila.
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>>163755887
>If you want to be dark there's should be a mention to what they do to women.

Sacrifice them for more power.

Chaos and Vampires are like /fit/, they become so focused on their goal they forget about women.
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>>163756923

I'm just mad i bought this game and its all about too spooky for me. Like theres no redemption, no lessons, not even demonic shit like doom.

Its just a pile of edginess with no depth.
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>>163757072
Have you read any of the fluff
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>>163757072
The only lessons I learned from the past Total Wars is that you should always carry artillery in your armies.

That and hammer and anvil.

And that horses love blood.

And that Gods...I hate Gauls. My grandfather hated them too, even before they put out his eyes. Did you think I'd be out here on the frontier without good reason? Yes, Rome needs a strong frontier. No, Rome doesn't need unwashed barbarians at her gates! So, that's why I'm here, the leader of the Julii: to bring Roman order to stinking Gauls. Revenge? That'd be good too. This war against the Gauls won't last long, and when it's done, I've got plans. This is all about power, power in Rome. Going down that road means dealing with all my rivals: the Senate, the Greeks, those Carthaginian elephant-riders, the Scipii and the Brutii families too. After all, the man who controls Rome rules the world...and one day, I will be Emperor.
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How in the fuck do I build a competent VC army, the lack of ranged is kinda annoying to deal with.
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>>163757165
More like Markus von Bantsler
How could Manlet ever recover?
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>>163757165
Yo dawg we heard you like unlocking graveguard so we made a building unlock grave guard whilst you were unlocking grave guard
>>163757251
4 ghouls
5 zombies
2 spear skellies
2 corpse cart
strigoi ghoul king
2 necromancers
4 grave guard with great weapons
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>>163757446
Woah great, half the army is useless shit and there's pretty much zero killing power in there.
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>>163757553
zombies absorb any charge bonuses
corpse cart keeps them alive
spears kill anuy cav the zombies caught
grave guard form a wall to fall back on
ghouls are your hammer
or is it too advanced for little baby
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>>163757678
You spend half the army to catch and fight off cav charges which is usless since the AI hardly uses any cav. So you have 4 GG to actually kill and fight the enemy infantry.
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>>163757678
even if this wasn't viable, which it is, it is really really fun to just watch the enemy army tire itself fighting what seems like an endless line of zombies, letting your good troops come in and finish off a weakened, tired mass of spooked out opponents.
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>>163757251
>GW graveguard mainline
>blood knights/BK with lances for some H&A action
>terrorgheists to shut down scirmishers
>two giant mutated vampire thingymajiggy (vargulf or varghulf or varghelf whateverthefuck) to punch through enemy lines and fuck up big targets
>lord with invocation

There, you just won the game
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>>163757943
>10k army upkeep

Who needs an economy, lets take out some loans like the big boys.
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>>163757165
>Steadfast

Out of all the things in TW:Warhammer that the AI gets away with but the player does otherwise is this stuff. Mannfred is literally the #1 Schemer EU but if you don't play him like you're a fucking lawyer it just doesn't work.
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>>163758045
>he has no economy as VC
How? You swim in dosh as everything but Angrund and Greenskin
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>>163758081
I have no idea what you're talking about.
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>>163757446

> He plays disgusting vampires

damn..
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>>163757867
The zombies absorb all charges not just cav, and having 2 to fight off cav is fine I think
>>163758081
I know Manfred is THE starscream but playing as Vlad 'serve me in life or be enslaved in the afterlife' Can't wait till TK come out to play as virtous undead some more
Manfred is the one that takes the thief to Vlad's coffin and lets him steal the ring. So really it's all Manfred's fault
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>>163755887
>beastmen rape everything.
>chaos rapes everything
>slaanesh a fuckin god of rape
>fimir a retconned race that did nothing but rape.

boy if youre trolling I dun fell for it
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>>163755887
>>163755887
None of those settings you mentioned has a total war game though.
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What Naggy-boy model will we get? Rad as fuck end times one or the goofy one?
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>>163757072
>has read nothing about the lore
>"no depth"
mhmmm
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>>163758239
I really hope CA doesn't act like a bunch of lazy fucks and mashes Settra together with Nagash or whatever. I want to go around conquering like a true civilization and build glorious temples, not shit corrupting bat guano everywhere and build cages.
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>>163758221
Empire was too little or too much to govern due to confederation, what can I say
>>163758246
Forgeworld are selling Fimir again so that's canon but just not broadcast as being so
>>163758370
They're not doing end times in this Triology so probably won't get him.
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>>163758402
Nagash was weak, witness true guano
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>>163758370
probably end times. If we even see Nagash it will likely be because some sort of end times scenario is being developed in game
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Guys which submod for Third Age? It's been a while since I played and I forgot what they're called.

Would appreciate help.
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>>163758415
>>163758453
They are most probably going to dip their dev dicks into the end times line for chaos deamons and chaos warriors. I just hope that my boi, makes it into the game.
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>>163758402
You do know Settra doesn't kill Nagash, the man who ruined his hopes and dreams, literally to prove his point he serves no one when he could have killed all of chaos afterwards?
They'll probably have Settra fight a tonne of sub factions, and you'll have VC hordes like the roman expedition in TW:A that are trying to find Arhkan the black and Nagash's pyarimds. Hoping for a mini- camapaign but as long as there's enough distance between Nehekhara and the BadLands I don't mind
>>163758646
8th ed chaos has plenty of units, especially if they make it hordes of chaos again and bring back Pestigors, Goregors, breastigors and Tzaangors, so they don't need to do end times, and sans Vlad I think it's based off storm of chaos ATM
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>>163758370
I'm hoping for a balanced one, like pic related.

More like his original model but still spooky and powerful looking.
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>>163758370
Will he be a LL for VC or Kangz?
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>>163758761
I'm confused, what does that have to do with my post? I'm saying Settra should never be lumped with Nagash, as Settra would never serve Nagash - or anyone (hence why he turned down their offer, he's not Archaon).
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>>163758886
If they do his End Times model then you'll be able to confederate into the Grand Alliances, order, chaos, destruction and death. So initially VC but then TK once confederated.
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>>163758886
TK most likely
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SO how exactly does this work, vampire clans visiting, or petty mortals fleeing chaos. Either way the reduced recruitment cost is clearly because they're BLOODY IMMIGRANTS STEALING MA JOB
>>163759002
You do know which faction the current model was first released for right?
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>>163758997
>he's not Archaon
And look where it got him
>be Settra
>die
And now let's look at the EverChosen
>be Archaon
>Empire betray you
>get chaos gods to help you
>get your gang of /fit/ bros together
>fuck everyone's shit up
>overthrown chaos gods
>chill in your /fit/ fortress with your CHOSEN /fit/bros
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What's the best faction for learning Attila?
It's been a while since I last played any TW game.
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>>163758508
Divide and Conquer for lots of smaller factions.

And MOS for lots of content.
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>>163759281
Barbar kingdoms.
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>>163759221
>empire betray you
He literally just reads a book which has his name in and goes to the Northern wastes to become a lord
>>163759281
Franks for micro
Sassanids for macro
Huns for proving your skills and reflexes
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anti large vs anti infantry (large units)
which ones wins? yes i am aware that units are different, but i am asking in general. if i have anti infantry cav and i see some shitty eternal guards. can i kill them?
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>>163759281
One of the factions in the UK because you're isolated.
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>>163759221
It got him a headbutt from Grimgor in one BADEND and godhood in another. A 50% success rate at immortality is pretty good but not perfect.
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>>163759392
Depends on the units, but I'm pretty sure anti-large would win most of the time.
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>>163757553
>he doesn't utilize zombie meatshields
>he doesn't utilize the great VC support vehicles
>he doesn't spam Invocation of Nehek
Aaaaaaand that is why you suck at VC, my dude.
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>>163759486
To be fair, he got BTFO'd by Grimgor.
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>>163759392
probably whichever unit has more models in it. the anti bonuses will basically equal out the combat so whoever there is more of will win.
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>>163759392
Eternal Guard are pretty good anti-large troops
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>>163759392
The one with spears will always win
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>>163747484
To be fair it was also a reference to how S1 handled maps
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>>163759159
So got manfred and a strigoi using the list I posted earlier sans 2 necromancers, and coming to the rescue of Leitdorf and Averland by taking out those damn Stirlanders
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Time Commanders when?
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Wish there were black and armor smith buildings in WH like Shogun2
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>>163760525
9 or 8pm gmt?
And it's the battle of atilla vs the visigoth roman alliance
>>163760547
unit experience? Regiments of renown, skill trees?
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>>163760525
Just under 4 hours, 9pm GMT.
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Is anybody actually playing Beastmen in the campaign, it seems like nobody ever talks about them. Are they that shit?
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>>163760852
they are the easiest legendary campaign, beastmen hide encampment makes it almost impossible to lose, MINOTAURSSS, make everything fun

they are great but dlc is still overpriced as the minicampaign for beast is lacklustre
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>install army composition mod
>having a fucking blast
>reach welves
>army consists of fucking glade guard and 8 heroes
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>>163761018
what care the best army comp mods, I'm having fine just in vanilla with Vc vs empire
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How do you successfully siege as the VC when you don't have archers or artillery (this is the worst shit ever)?
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>>163761586
I usually blob a door and win through attrition with heal spells, summoning skellies behind the blob, and attack archers on the wall with flying units
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>>163758370
>>163758886

If CA made him, he will probably appear in his end times look and will be his own faction, and will work as the chaos invasion, but for the DLC/expension that will bring the TK, and the TK will have to stop him and his little flying pyramid
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>>163761586
What mortals don't understand is that being freed from the bondage of reliance on ranged units like archers and artillery allows the vnderstander to grasp the very essence of strategy.

The chaff can assault the walls at will along a concentrated point, usually around a door, while monsters and cavalry break down the gates. Certain heroes and corpse-drawn wagons will buff and heal your troops on the walls, and once their archers are engaged the flyers can move in to silence enemy artillery or shatter the defenders on the walls. Well-placed spells can refresh your units, summon new ones to the field, or break the defenders in a key location.

It's importance to make your attack on a area small enough to not overstretch your forces, but also large enough to bring your full strength to bear.
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>>163761586
When you can raise the dead from your graves anything is possible
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>>163762406
>Sollander

;_;7
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>>163761154
>>163762265
>>163762406
corpse cart and necromancer aoe heal can make even zombies dangerous vs low tier units.
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How worth it is total warhammer? I want to it, but with all of the dlcs not being on sale as well, I'm not sure if I want to spend the $100 or so to get all the dlc that is currently out. Minus the blood splatter one of course
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>>163760852
its kind of hell right now with elfs confederating in 15 turns

You have to veer off from the start or you will be surprised by 4 stacks of elfs with high tier units
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Just installed Europa Perdita and Fall Of The Eagles what am I in for?
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Can anyone post the Attila roll chart
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>>163762406
Was hellish to fight but that's to be expected.
Notetoself You really need a necromancer when assaulting walls as a strigoi as zombies are hella useful to get behind the archers
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>>163763535
Praise the Dawi for busying Stirland so I could grab some land for myself
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>>163762987
The sale was kinda shit, but your get a decent amount of free content. You get Bretonnia for free to later on(and maybe Middenland and so on)
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>>163763535
VC are so fucking bad jesus christ
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>>163748028
still uses a rome 2 style campaign map
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>Get King and Warlord DLC
>Belegar looks fun, even gets ghost dads
> 50 percent upkeep increase until karak eight peaks is back
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>>163764357
And now you also get Wood Elves to fuck up everything around you, if not just fuck YOU up directly.
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>>163764357
GRUDGES WILL BE SETTLED
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>>163760362
With Shogun and Medieval there was a different map type crossing regions so there was actually a lot of variety. That might just be Medieval since it's been a while since I've played STW but I think it was the same. You can right click a region and mouse over nearby ones to find out.
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>>163764186
Looks better than Attila's battle maps.
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>>163749538
rollll
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>>163764459
yeah... and the dwarves around me keep asking me to join in a war against them and with the empire for some reason.
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Is a Bloody Handz campaign fun or just dogshit?
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I think, not 100% sure yet, that Sparta will be a problem.
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>>163764676
>that little roman province between carthage and sparta
Thats like the roman republics worst nightmare.
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>>163743601
SPEEEEER BRUDDERS!
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>>163763656
So how is the core game then? TW hasn't been steller out of the gate
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>>163749538
Rollan
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>>163764925
Dumbed down on all fronts.
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>>163764925
It's pretty fun. It plays really well and the factions are diverse. It had a mostly smooth release.
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>>163764785
Sparta freed them, IIRC. They were under Athens control before. Sparta also ressurected Carthage.
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How do I build Vlad so he doesn't suck, seems like there's alot of good shit to go for. And how come he is not faction leader, they should have demoted Manfred.
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>>163743601
EAGER FOR BATTLE
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So, in Europe I have to worry about the fucking Spartans flipping a switch and attacking me. In Africa and the Middle East I have the new Seleucid Empire blobbing, and then Parthia, Baktria and Pontus hating me. Egypt is also still present.
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>>163765515
I'm gonna hunker down for some turns and build up my provinces so that I at least have money when everyone shits on me.
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Oh no. It's gonna start.
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>>163765515
Your map reminds me of mine in my recent Rome campaign
>how do you want your Middle-East senpai?
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>>163766118
Slaughter them all
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Rome 2 or Attila, friends? In an ideal world I'd grab both, but DLC is fucking expensive.
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>>163766649
rome 2, because once you play attila you will likely never play rome 2 again
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>>163766649
Rome2 is shit on a design level and can never be fixed by mods. The AI still shits itself in sieges. Attila is an improvement over Rome 2 in just about every aspect.
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>>163749538
Sigvald pls
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Warhammer's campaign at present is fucking trash. So I ended up buying Age of Charliebrown and was surprised to find it's literally the best TW campaign presently available.
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2017
AE
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>>163765143
not demoted as the manlet has too many fans and they'd have to redo the faction intro
bascially corpsecart, zombies and grave guard to rush the opponent as you spawn as close as possible
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Help
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So let me see if I'm understanding this, Total War: Warhammer is a fantasy game so things like sanitation, food, migration, physical trade routes, war fatigue, soil quality and so on are pointless because it's supposed to be """"""arcadey"""""".

Then why have public order?
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>>163767438
B E S T K I N G
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was this an overpriced early access game?

>no unique city visuals
>no roads
>no little caravans on the campaign map
>4 factions
>limited building trees
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>>163767438
I wouldn't call it the best but more of a return to form. Jack Lusted is one of the few people at CA that cares about TW.
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>>163767438
ASTURIAS STRONK!


>>163767819
>Then why have public order?
Rebellions I guess
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>>163767819

Yes it makes perfect sense because and, but also keep in mind that however in conclusion you see.
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>>163767976
5 factions ;^)
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>VC produce tons of wine
>no faction ever wants to trade with them

Just why
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>>163767976
Yes. On the upside it didn't completely explode on launch and ran fairly well for alot of people.
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>>163767976
>city model just lazily clipped into the terrain below it

lol oh my god, fantasy fags just eat whatever ca shits on their plate
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>>163768202
public order m8 so shit like this doesn't happen
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These are really fast.
>>163768202
It's also one of the best trade resources kek. You might get some dwarf trade partners with some work.
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>order a unit to attack
>enemy shifts another unit and front and retreats the first unit
>rather than fight the new unit, they run through it towards the one i ordered the attack on
this is seriously fucked and needs to be fixed
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>>163767438
>No playable Pictland
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>>163768313
That happens in Rome 2 and Attila to be honest. Lots of clipping and a clusterfuck of buildings.
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>>163767976
Does that mean Shogun 2 was a early access game? I don't get it. Does roads make a game?
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Lombards
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>>163767976

>Has more actual content than any of the modern total war games
>"But muh meaningless, cosmetic quality of life features and copy-pasted sub-factions!"

Kill yourself my man
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>>163768316
>Fedorin
>Taal
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>>163768632

Fun faction traits.

>Your late game lombard army has welsh longobowmen and papal guardsmen.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NcfdoSuC6MI
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>>163768632
angry
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Why is the Altdorf the only starting capital that doesn't produce a valuable resource? They get fucking pottery, that makes you less money than just building their default economic building.

>Dwarfs get gems
>Cunts get gold
>Greenskins gold
>Tree Nazis just print money

???
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are you talking about real life lombard armies or charlemagne's?
I usually play with the roster enhancer mod
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>when you practice olypic gymnastics with your bros
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>>163769029
The resource has additional value in trade(it's one of the lower ones though). It's just an option I guess. At least you get three easy to get settlements in that province.
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is it ever worth it to keep some roman buildings in attila?
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>10k repair bill every time the fucking endless hordes of enemy agents damage my capital
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>>163768895
Grombrindal and that guy should team up.
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>>163768316
The lust for absolute dominion has corrupted this realm
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>declare war, fight and sack 3 cities
>enemy offers peace and pays for it, take the offer
>untrustworthy

what
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Why can't I have a comfy EZ mode ERE campaign lads?
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was is hell
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>>163769318
What true king goes to war to secure mere land and not for the glory of his fore-fathers
>>163769389
?
Whut jewish interest makes you win
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>>163769318
Any treaties with them beforehand?
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Are there any mods for Warham that change the lighting on the campaign map to be a bit brighter? Early screenshots looked really good but the game feels a bit drowned out and lacking contrast.

Pic related, straight from the Steam store page. Also the textures look sharper too.
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Its pretty fun running over everyone with Vokmars truck
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>>163769318
Do you have any military allies you dragged into the war too?
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>>163769438
No I was steadfast before the war and during but bumped down to untrustworthy after taking a peace they offered.

>>163769480
No

Any of the VC hero units worth dragging around?
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>>163769242
As the Ostrogoths yes. And if that one roman sanitation building is better than anything you can build at the moment.
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>>163769545
Wights are very tanky, but not that good at countering enemy lords and heroes. Vampire is pretty useful.
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>>163769427
b-but huns and barbars
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>>163761586

What are you talking about, sieges are a piece of piss for VC.

At first I thought the lack of ranged units would be a hindrance, but then I realised what a liberation it is. You don't have the paper part of the equation to worry about, so you have a shit ton more rock and scissor to work with.
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so how long can this go on? I feel like my best chances at long term survival are if I break the alliance and just let the WRE fall so I don't get swarmed with barbars
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>>163749538
Roll
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>>163770007
this is my first ampaign as the ERE if it matters
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>>163767976
>no roads
>no little caravans on the campaign map
Do Rome 2 or Attila have these?
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Why is there diplomacy and trading even in totalwar let alone warhammer? like does it EVER work? warhammer is even worse but I remember Attila being bad too.

What the fuck is wrong with CA.
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>>163770007

need to break the alliance with them on the first sign of trouble.

those fucks are nothing but trouble
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>>163767438
>was surprised to find it's literally the best TW campaign presently available.
>Not Med 1 or Med 2
ok
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>>163767976
Why does warhammer ... not look really all that good.
like idk its really muddy and it takes forever to load even though it doesn't look that good and I have a good computer.
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>>163769943
I'm talking offensive sieges, I really don't see how they are easy as the VC.
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>>163770007
break and reconquer the west
trying to defend them is only a headache
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>>163769029
Altdorfs province also has 4 settlements as opposed to 3 or 1
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>dwarfs help me eliminate stirland
>get ready to attack Ostermark for Vlad's quest
>lol nope we war now
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>>163770656
Never trust Karak Hirn
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>>163770656
I fucking hate all those randy dwarfs who are they even meant to be and they even canon.

I'm playing vc too and finally defeated chaos and now have to kill varg and the other one. can you destroy their cities?
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>>163770565
>it takes forever to load
don't know what it is but all the newer TW always take forever to load for me.
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>>163770608
>300 turns in
>literally no siege attacks since the first 5 turns
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>>163770656
>dwarfs razed settlement long ago
>finally have free army to colonise ut
>LOL NOPE no monies
>Wissenland colonises it
>wissenland is allied with Karak Hirn
Oh this is gonna be fun
>>163770796
read the 1d page on them
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Also Is it normal I saved the south ( dwarfs,elves,etc) for after chaos? the elves and chaos actually basically helped me get all of the empire and the human lands. I hopefully will own all of the middle and north area. then going south. Are elves hard to fight, should I fight the dwarfs first.
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>>163770451
>>163770630
will do senpai


any other must know ERE tips? I've spent most of the first 20 or so turns managing my territory and making peace wth the visigoths and the alani, as well as trying to fight off the garamantians in North Africa
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>>163771010
what army?
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>>163770608

>offensive sieges

attacking walls isn't hard as VC since you can send a vanguard of Terrorgheist + mannfred on dragon + vargheists too completely fuck defenders over.

That + all the bullshit regeneration the VC get means they can win any attrition battle on walls and still have most of their health intact.
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>>163770843
Yeah this shouldn't be a thing I have a 4690k devil's canyon and a 980.
>>163771109
VC
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>>163770390
I liked how trading worked in Medieval 1, 2, and Shogun 2. In the newer games i just make trade agreements with everyone for free money.
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>>163771106

make peace with the huns and throw money at them to go kill other barbars for you.

just making peace is good enough since you can't kill the huns for a long ass time but sicking them on other barbars is effectively killing two birds with 1 stone as it weakens the huns and usually they will nuke a few tribes before Attila comes and wants to rape everything that moves.
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>>163753897

12.

Put a "you must be this tall to enter" sign in front of their hold while the army is out on campaign.
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>>163770608

So am I. It's like this:

Send your disposable infantry at them.

Send a monster or battering ram to open the gates.

Send your Vargheists at them.

Send your Varghulf/Crypt Horrors/etc at them.

Summon more disposable infantry.

Then wait til you've won.

You're probably only finding it hard if you are trying to play them as a conventional side that cares about losses- Treat your infantry as disposable. Literally disposable. Because they are. That's the whole point.
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>>163767819
It's just lazyness and catering to a larger audience. Dominions is fantasy and has way more depth than TW because the fanbase expects it while CA apologists defend cornercutting everywhere.
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>>163770390
It's ok in TWW. It's important that you always project enough force. Taking serious losses can cause a random ai faction to declare war on you because you are in a weak state then.
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Reminder that auto replenishment killed any sort of strategy in TW since as long as 10 or so men are alive in a unit you get them back in a few turns. Also it killed veterancy being meaningful since replenished units lose experience.
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>>163771941
I agree, makes attacking enemy armies in their territory pointless unless you know you'll crush them. No more thinning their numbers.
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>>163771631
Dominions doesn't really have that much in common with total war aside from being a turn based strategy game. It's probably true that dominions has more depth than TWW, but that would go for every other total war game, too.
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>>163772624
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>>163772791
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>Use a occupy anywhere mod for the greenskins
>Use another that prevent confederation for anyone but them
>They actually become a threat, there's an actual fight in the badlands.
This is good.
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>>163771941
It breaks the immersion for special units in Warhammer like KotBS - who are supposed to be turbo elite bodyguards, who easily get any casualties auto-replen'd after a couple turns even if you only got a dozen guys left.

This is why I like the M2 mods better than TW, makes the elite and specialist units feel so much more important and cautious to keep them alive.
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>>163772961
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what are the best AoC mods?
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>>163773103
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>>163773103
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Man ERE with Fall of Eagles is pretty awesome
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>>163773306
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>>163771631
>Comparing Dominions to TW
why can't I control my units in real time though?
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>>163771941
absolutely correct, they try to justify it by not lowering wages which represents recruitment costs (in older titles if half the unit is dead, you paid half the upkeep) empire recruitment at least required you to pay a lot, so while it was automatic it was still costly

but its still retarded, only shit tier levies/militia and such should have auto-replenishment
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>>163773446
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>Dorf warrior unit broke only after being reduced to 4 models with 20hp left, routing 3 orc boyz before that.

but game i really want to use the boyz and not just big'uns and black orc spam
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>>163761586

Should probably point out Banshees with the ability can blow their walls open like a spooky air strike from the campaign map.
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>>163749538
I would do anything for Sigmar ;)
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>>163773534
because it uses a WEGO system
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>Get a faction unlocker and decide to start up a game as Middenland
>Take a look at my stats screen on Boris the bringer

I mean, they're not wrong.
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>>163771941
>Also it killed veterancy being meaningful since replenished units lose experience
If anything it was retarded that you could take a 20 men gold chevron unit and get it at full strength with no exp loss
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>>163773892
Combat mission uses WEGO, doesn't dominions use preplanned strategies like gratuitous space battles?
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>>163774182
you preplan your strategies and your formation ahead of time then the battle is calculated after all players send their turn in
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>>163773912
How strong is Boris lorewise
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>>163774275
So, like I said?
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>>163774275
>>163773892
so not like TW at all then? So why are people comparing theses two game again?
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>>163774686
because it has a magic system and artifact system that isnt shit
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>>163774440
Strong enough to fuck up Khazrak and get fucked up by Khazrak
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>>163774686
Dude TURN-BASED CAMPAIGN LMAO!! XD
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>>163774765
Khazrak is a babby manlet beastie

That doesnt tell me much
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>>163774440
He's a pretty tough motherfucker. Obviously he's got a runefang on his side for one thing, but he's always been a very hands-on leader and led his dudes personally in smiting beastmemes and chaos. He was also the only count that shot down the prospect of Karl as the next emperor, but after seeing he could really lead and wasn't a bitchboy, Boris became one of his most reliable guys as well.

He also saved multiple states asses all at once before.

"Boris Todbringer was instrumental in the defense of the city of Middenheim and the province of Middenland when Asavar Kul and his followers invaded Kislev and the Empire. The armies of Ostland and Middenland, along with troops from Hochland and Kislev, fell back to Middenland where Boris Todbringer led the soldiers of the Empire in the defense until the Emperor relieved the city."
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Hi,

Is there a waifu mod for welves?

That is to say, either a replacement of the male welf units or an addition of female standins for the male units.

I already have the mod that replaces Orion with a generic female glade lord but the rest of the army must compose of only female welfs too.

Thanks.
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>>163774686
Laziness. It's a lazy comparison. /Lazy Town General/
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>>163774749
Artifacts are usually garbage in Dominions
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>>163774686
When people compare the two they don't compare the raw mechanics running the game but rather the viewscope and capabilities presented. Both allow you to control large armies, move them across territories, control generals, develop your provinces, etc.

In the case of comparing Warhammer to Dominions, there are even more similarities. Magic and fantasy elements come to mind.
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>>163775260
But the total war battles are a very important part of total war(maybe the most important part). Total War is way more capable when it comes to controlling battles. Dominions can't even do the most basic thing in total war battles. Is that laziness?
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>>163773173
bls resbond
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Opening moves for Vampire Counts? I heard you can destroy Templehof in one turn, is that true?
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>>163775260
Why not compare it to Age of Wonders 3 or Fallen Enchantress then?

>>163774971
>/Lazy Town General/
WE ARE NUMBER ONE
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>>163776062
>destroy Templehof in one turn
Impossible. Schwartzhafen, maybe.
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>>163776062
No, but you can take castle templehof turn 1 or 2 which completely neuters them, allowing you to easily clean them up.
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>>163776062
You can do it in 2 if you raise a second lord turn 1 and raise dead whenever you can
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Is there a better feeling than liberating Brettonia peasants from tyranny as the Empire?
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>>163771572
this is a good one
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>>163776517
Peasants exist solely to be oppressed, hoveldorf.
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>>163775978
I'd like to know as well desu
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>>163775978
wait elephants?
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>>163776705
Not in my empire, they'll be joining my army.
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I really don't know how to control and properly use my guys whatsoever. Like fights that are maybe 70% positive on the autoresolve bar I lose trying to control myself, shit's arcane as my first game of this type.
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>>163776853
I am a very thorough meme poster, so I provoked a rebellion in my eastern province, puppeted the rebels, waited until they get elephants and then took the pic
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>>163776919
Which game?
Doesn't really matter. Just hammer and anvil all day every day and you're good
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Thanks Chaos.

Guess I'll just be putting walls on every single settlement to ensure it doesn't get razed to the fucking ground as soon as I move an army more than 3 feet away from it.

Where is the strategy in this shit.
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>Savage Orc Boar Boy Big Uns
man that's a mouthful
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>>163762987

> game is a little shitty

Too many dlc
edgy stupid lore
too many corruption shit fucking your troops, gets annoying and unlogic
Shitty graphics

Buy shogun 2 and be happy
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>>163777281
Building walls to buy you time is a strategy I guess
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>>163775734
Dominions is hands off battles though
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Great design guys
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Total war: Future when?
I need some laser beams and swords
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>>163777508
Thankfully never.
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>>163777281

I know right

Faggots just run away from you and behave like little bitches

I hate this shitty faction full of bears fags buttsexing my territory
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>>163777463
Total War is battle focused though.

>>163777475
Kek. You better get to it then. That quest might change next turn though. Some of them do if a faction is already destroyed and so on.
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>>163777475
>doing it so late
Great play, guy.
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>>163777281
Get the mod that makes march/forced march require 100% movement, I don't care if it's even the smallest bit cheat-y, the ebib yakkety sax march attack march shit got old literally day 1.
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>>163777475
Guess I shouldn't have doubted you guys
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Guys what is the point of the corpse cart, it only seems to provide regeneration to itself. Only the Mortis Engine has mass regeneration.
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>>163778158
It buffs zombies nearby, so put 2 of them next to your block of 5 and march them all up
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>>163777848
Why the already bad relations?
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>>163778158

The normal cart is only good for the melee attack buff

The Unholy Lodestone cart provides mass regen like a Mortis Engine
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>>163778158

necromancer heroes with unholy lodestone carts are insane value.
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>>163743031
Literally DEAD faction.
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>>163778158
The Corpse Cart has three variations. The basic version only has the basic self-regen and melee attack/defense aura. Only the Unholy Lodestone version has a regeneration aura on top of the skills the default has access to.
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>>163778526
>skeletons
>dead
Anon, I...
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CA, please give Brets stakes(or at least fire arrows) together with the supposedly planned peasant nerf.
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Why are humans so hardy, they're facing the fucking undead and encircled why don't they rout
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>>163779319

The Empire endures ;^)
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Wait what the fuck happened to Time Commanders?
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>>163779395
WAIT FUCK IT'S MONDAY
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>>163779395
Only three episodes were greenlit. Based on the positive response they'll probably get another season.
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>capture a tower
>collapses and kills my men who captured it
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>>163779319
Empire infantry got decent leadership, but they should buckle under all the fear debuffs from Vamps
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>>163779519
The third episode should have been today.
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>>163779469
>>163779609
>>163779395

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b08653wx

It's tomorrow for some reason. Thank god I didn't miss it.
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>>163779319

Because humans wants to live faggy vampire

Stop playing this shitty no dick no nose faction asshole
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>>163773614
DID'YA WAAAGH LAUD ENUF?

NO YAS DI'NT YA GIT

WAAAGH!
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So what should I do to the wood elves, save the empire or conquer the empire for myslef and try to be bff''s
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Anyone familiar with Third Age + MOS able to give some advice for Eriador?

I can't get my opening moves and strategy right - I rush to secure the south up to Tharbad and spread along the river, along with getting trade rights + an alliance with Dunland, but fighting back the Orcs of Gundabad is a nightmare.

I just can't improve my economy and create troops fast enough.
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>Rome 1, M2 broken public order mechanics
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>>163782057
you become god tier once you remake arnor
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>>163781730
Wood elves are literally worse than Chaos. There's no reasoning with them, there's no promise of friendship or peace, they have to be destroyed.
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is there any way to get the warhammer dlc for free? or do i really have to pay for shit that should have been in the game in the first place?
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>>163782258
>or do i really have to pay for shit that should have been in the game in the first place?
here we go again
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>>163782153
>incur rebellion
>EXTERMINATUS
There.

>>163782057
Aggressive expansion is always the key in TW imo. Fuck the economy until you're secure. And forget elite troops too.
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>>163782258
Are you being serious or just meming?
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>>163782258
you wait until all the DLC comes out and the chinks crack the game again
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>>163782324
Bullshit dude! This is nonsense! What is exactly the plan here? Kill civilians without end? An increased population should not harm my empire. Glad the other games got rid of it
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SHOCK CAVALRY ONLY PARTY
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aggressive expansion will get you fucked in medieval because every unit takes 2 turns minimum to recruit and public order can't be gamed like M2TW
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>>163782258
Just wait for Bretonnia and other free stuff.
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Anyone working on some shitty meme paragraph like that faggot or faggots who spammed the "Wood Elves soon/confirmed"?

Empire has "SUMMON"
VC has Mannlet
Dawi have Grudge memes
Urgi have "GOBBOS/ Gobbo archers

What are the hot memes for Chaos, Beastmen, Wood Elves, and Brettonia?
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GOTTA GO FAST
GOTTA HIT HARD AND ONCE
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>tfw too scared to manually fight orions stack so autoresolve and you win but it just feels empty inside as you clicked buttons and not fought the battle using tactics to get better for next time
Well at least I have all the DLC for multiplayer now
here's to 4 stacks appearing next turn and killing off my strigoi king one turn before he would've got a terrorgheist
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>>163782659
>Bretonnia
Rejoice! and peasant oppression.
The rest don't get spiffy memes, since they're shit factions.
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>>163782787
knights > cataphracts
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How does the VC get those upgraded monsters of the basic version? Like Zombie -> Tithe. Is that exclusive to VC, or are those given from a quest or something?

>>163782659
Spoonfeed SUMMON and GOBBOS to me please.
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My favourite thing about Rome 2 is the unit flags not being taller than trees so I never know who the fuck is where in a forest in the midst of a battle
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DID SOMEONE SAY CAVALRY CHARGES
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>>163782930
The tithe is a regiment of renown, you just need a lord of a high enough level to unlock them
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>>163782931
subtle
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What are the Dwarven names for the various races in Warhammer?

I know they call themselves Dawi and Goblins Grobi, what are the names for any of the other factions.
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>>163782258

>do i really have to pay for shit that should have been in the game in the first place?

Back to the Steam forums with you.
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>>163783094
humans = umgi
Elves = elgi
Skaven = Raki
vampires = zangunaz
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>>163782931
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shock cavalry fags are the worst
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>>163783094
Humans are Umgi
Elves are Elgi
Undead are Uzkular, or when referring to Vampires, Zangunas
And >>163783182
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Broke af. Want a Warhammer DLC. Which is the best one?
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>>163783343

Wood Elves if you want a race DLC

The King and the Warlord if you want not a race DLC
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>>163783343
wood elves are fun, chaos is meh, the rest are shit
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>>163783343
King and Warlord.
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>>163777397
the corruption shit is legit bullshit and yeah the graphics suck for some reason even though it loads like ass
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>>163783219
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>>163783094
>>163783182
>>163783279
Welves specifically are wutelgi as well.
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>>163777558
>>163777281
Yeah I just beat them last night actually. FUCK that bird wtf is he anyway man.

they have to be the worst part of the game though.
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>>163782209
Not him but shit really, I just beat chaos and they are in my area if I go to war will these armies just attack me.
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Patch to re-nerf the welves when, they really do make the campaign retarded being as strong and ridiculously expansionist as they are.
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>>163783725
hes Tzeentch Big Bird.
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>>163784250

Fuck no, the game finally has some decent challenge to it.
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>>163784308
>removing the faction variety makes it harder
ebin
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After the fall of the Seleucid Empire, the Iberians continued their advance deep into Arabia. Next were the Saba, who thought themselves protected from the peninsular barbarians by their walls.

However years of fighting far better equiped opponents had taught the Iberians how important siege weapons were.
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>>163783474
>even though it loads like ass

SSD helps a lot.
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>>163782659
Well the beasties have poopoopeepee
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>>163784816
And so, the assault began. It did not take much time until the Sabians saw how outclassed they were.
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>>163784308
It's a boring challenge, it just turns into The World v Wood Elf and they're not fun to fight either.
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>>163769029
you also get a port. you are incentivized to confed or take over marienburg quickly.
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>>163784995
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>>163784816
>Iberians and other "barbarian" tribes conquering the world


It's so silly it almost makes them unplayable. Fuck my autism. Glad Total War gives me the opportunity though.
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>>163785669
Soon, the Iberians took advantage of the breach to get into the town itself. Now the bloodshed would begin in earnest.
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>naming legions after regions you have them set to defend or conquer
Any other ways to make the ERE campaign comfy?
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>>163785801
Battle raged on the streets as the levies attempted to stop the Iberians. However these were veterans of the wars against Egypt, Seleucia, Parthia and Baktria. They had been tested far too many times, against too many opponents to be stopped by simple levies, no matter how brave these were.
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>>163786065
One of the Sabai generals, fearing the worst, charged the iberians in the hopes of turning them back, only to be stopped by a blade to his gut. He did not die until the city started screaming, fully aware of his failure to protect those he held most dear.
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>>163786361
You're making your guys sound like some great big shitty faggots.
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>>163786361
The Iberians suddenly found themselves face to face with a new kind of beast. They had heard about these strange horses, but they had never encountered them before. They had already fought the dreadnaughts known as elephants, but this new beast might prove troublesome.
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>playing as the ERE
>pretty cordial with the Sassanids
>Bosrau, their king, is pretty passive and agreeable
>he apparently dies and is replaced by his son
Didn't take a screenshot but he ended the NAP and has traits like 'aggerssive' 'expansionist' 'hates rival empires'
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>>163786515
Then again, this is why you always brought spearmen.
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>>163786780
Reaching the city center, the final stand began.
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HOW THE FUCK DO I GET RID OF CHAOS ARMIES THAT ARE CONSTANTLY JUST BEING PUSSY BITCHES AND FUCK OFF BACK TO AN UNREACHABLE SPOT EVERY FUCKING TURN THESE KITING FUCKING NIGGERS JESUS CHRIST IS THIS GAME BROKEN OR WHAT FUCK
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Nakashama was the only one left against this endless tide of long haired barbarians. The gods, he felt, had forsaken him and his town. The only thing left for him was to die as a man and not as the craven masses that had deserted him.
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>>163787128
An agent with misdirection
Ambush stance
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>>163786065
Keep this up it's good writing
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>>163787128
Send allies after them
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>>163786565
Welcome to real life, clearly the new king is a populist, his career will not last long
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>>163787220
He fought as bravely as you could ask of any man. He blocked, he stabbed, he cut. But they were too many, there were too many spears around him, he felt too many bumps, not only from the men behind him but also from the Iberians as they closed the noose around his men. He could smell the fear around him, the familiar smells of piss and shit as men screamed, begged and whimpered all around him.
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>>163787360
a literal trump hitler arab
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man I wish I knew basic modding, there are two unit packs for AoC that I use, and for one of them I want to remove most of the extra units, but I have no idea how to do that
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Suddenly, he heard the quick clatter of hoofs on the ground. Thank the gods, the riders had came back! Maybe they could still turn them back, a charge, some valour and the Iberians would be pushed back! He felt his men regain their courage all around him!
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I'm into warhammer but I haven't played total war in ages. The last TW game I played was FotS, loved that one, I don't like the setting but the battle system is good in my opinion.

Is total warhammer+dlc worth 100€? Isn't it a bit too expensive? I might get attila instead, I heard it's the best TW game so far.
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>>163787128
Use your agents.
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>>163788121
Get the base game and the two unit packs, this will cost you around the price of a AAA title at release. Skip the Beastmen and Woodelfs as they're just too expensive without a sale and not that great to play as.
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>>163779319
>vampire underastimating humans
We should really start counting every vampire dying because of that
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>>163788121
Don't buy dlc yet. The base game sale could be better, but you get a decent amount of free dlc and Bretonnia soon.

You can always refund.
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>>163787937
But suddenly he felt all his strenght escaping him. Someone had stabbed him from behind and he felt his legs giving. Falling to his knees he began to hear the cheers of the barbarians and the cries of his men as they saw their only salvation fall.

History would have remembered him, but his name was quickly forgotten as the Iberians settled into his city.
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>>163788121
It's definitely not worth the DLC and it's far from being the best TW game.
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>>163788121
Just get the base game and wait for a future bundle deal or sale to get the DLC.

With unit variety, particularly if you've come from Shogun 2/FotS, in Warhammer, you'll get a shit load of replayability even without the DLC.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJhYB_OWCQ8
D A N S E M A C A B R E
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>>163743031
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>>163788304
>>163787232

Cheers guys, I kinda forgot that was a thing since I'd just been using my agents for their deploy bonuses for about a hundred turns now. Also the unit cards are terrible at letting you know which agent does what so it was trial and error finding out.

Time to beat down on these cunts.
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>>163788121
I'd say it's worth getting if you like Warhmmer. Just not all the DLC, like I'd say just pick up what you're interested in if you're going to get any. The most worth while pack is probably "The King and the Warlord"(But if you don't care for Dwarfs or Orcs this is a bit mute) and I hate to say it but the Blood and gore pack really does change how the game feels. but like the DLC isn't on sale anyway so it's not a big deal if you don't pick those up.

Attila Is the best in a "It's the most recent so has all the nice little updates" But runs like a hog if you don't have the right rig. Plus it really depends if you're into the setting or not because it does suffer from a lack of faction diversity.
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>>163789302
Yeah they really need to break down what each agent is actually good at.

As it is they all seem to do about the same jobs out side certain bonuses.
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Sieges are always so, so messy
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>>163778526
Rules are still readily available and I know lots of people that play them. I wouldn't say they're dead just because you can't buy their models.
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>>163790294
>just because you can't buy their models.

D E D
E
D
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>>163788121

Depends on what part of Total War you like.

Some folks bitch that the campaign map lacks depth, but IMO that's fine for a Warhammer game. The important part is that the battles have captured the essence of the tabletop counterparts. It just works really well, like playing a game of the tabletop without having to roll dice every five minutes.

It feels like a Warhammer game should, basically, but if you're expecting a lot of strategic planning and building/resource management on the campaign map, you'll probably be disappointed compared to other Total War games. It's less of a grand-strategy, and more of a series of cool battles connected by a dramatic campaign backdrop.

TL;DR If you're the kind of player who auto-resolves every battle, then don't even bother with it, it's the worst ever. If you're the kind of player who never touches the diplomacy panel, get it, you'll think it's the best ever.

DLC is naturally a rip off though, don't get it. They're milking that shit so hard I'm surprised you don't have to recruit individual units in game via micro-transaction.
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>>163790496
>models is everything

You sound like a GW shill
>>
>Chaos got annihilated in less than 10 turns
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>163790539
Shadow of the Horned Rat and Dark Omen are both better than TW: Warhammer
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>>163790539

Actually I would say it's perhaps worth a couple bux for the silly gore. But that's it, and even then you should feel dirty after buying it.

Pic related.
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>>163749538
Killin; time
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why are the wood elves the most hostile cunts on the fucking map next to chaos?
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>>163790839
>feel dirty after buying it.
For me I felt more guilty buying a prepaid credit card than buying the DLC.
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Why are there no fucking faction unlockers that just do what they say in the name, every time I find one that finally sounds decent, it's another one that does a bunch of extra bullshit and is trying to make everything it opens up into some big fully featured group of their own. I just wanna play Mousillon, stop trying to add Krell and Kemmler and fucking with how Red Duke looks, I just wanna mess with Border Princes and guys around there, quit adding a bunch of weird shit to them that makes it goofy, auuuugggghhh.
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>>163790750
No
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>>163791014
Athel Loren ain't free. the world roots gotta be littered with the blood of factions
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>>163791591
Yes
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>>163790539
>series of cool battles connected by a dramatic campaign backdrop.


That is total war in essence to be honest. You go for other games to get the deep political map.

Campaign map was made to give battles some context.

t. Making of Total War
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>>163791707
No
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>>163791804
Yes
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>>163790839
It felt dirty when buying it for Shogun 2. Now I am over it.
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>>163791879
No
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>>163791014
DONT COME NEAR TO MY WOODS REEEEEEEE
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>>163792172
Yes. It doesn't bog you down with a joke of a campaign map either.
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Why do people praise Medieval 2 for having formation abilities when it only hade useless ones like schiltron and wedge?
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>>163792574
DUDE """""COMPLEXITY"""""" LMAO
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>>163791014
beside winning autoresolve a lot they confederate in 15 turns
game's pretty much broken because of that
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>>163792510
No. Old games aren't good by virtue of being old, those games aged terribly.
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>>163792645
Even Rome 1 didn't any of note.
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>>163792778
aged terribly is a term used by children when they can't actually critique a game's flaws
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campaign fucking when
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>>163792820
Nostalgia google prevent one to genuinely see a game for what it is.
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>>163792796
Loose formation has always been reasonably useful, although I can't remember if Rome 1 had it or not
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>>163792897
Comfy Roman box
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>>163793074
Well, most of the newer games have that.
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>>163792897
>VIIII
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>>163792919
A better game than TWW.
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>>163792574
Because the few formations it has already makes it vastly superior to Warhammer. Things like shield wall and spear wall which work great for halberdiers. You can't even set troops into loose formation in Warhammer.
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>>163793598
B-b-but the game does it automatically for you!

Nobody has time to click buttons! it's too complex and unintuitive!
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>>163793713
But they already added a bunch of buttons to press if you're using hero abilities and magic
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>>163793598
>Things like shield wall and spear wall which work great for halberdiers

Those aren't in vanilla to be honest. Spear Wall actually doesn't do much for halbardiers in that mod.
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HAHAHHA here we GO again, another round of stale memes and shitposting.
another round of tomb kangz,meme rats, meme elves, meme goblins, meme squigs, AHHHH rome, le ebin vlad, and etcetera.

I'm fucking tired of this general, you autists are the absolute bane of this board, holy shit I would stomp every single one of you meme spouting neckbeards in a second with my bare hands.
For the love of god stop posting these memes, I'm tired, I just want to discuss Total War and not have to scroll trough a wall of memes.
Enough is enough.
>>
SUMMON
>>
PONTUS
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>>163793356
Objectively false
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>>163793356
Depends I guess. I really enjoy the better functionality of the modern total war battles. Pretty responsive.
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>>163793997
They are in vanilla to be honest.
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>that feel when you know some crazy shits about to go down
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>>163794398
Barely. Most spear units have the useless spear ring ability and the halberd units are near extinct.
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craziest siege battle i ever had

from the vault of my campaign historys
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>>163794876
Got any more?
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>>163794901
did you save my screenshot?
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>>163794876
Noice

>>163794901
What. Pretty sure they can't do that.
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>>163795142
oh but they can
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>>163795142
Why isnt there a lore of metal wizard hero?
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>>163794876
Is this XC or RTR?
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>tfw all the good mods come out so late after a total war release
>Shogun 2 got some really good mods WAY after release
>The really good ones aren't even done for Attila yet.
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>>163794948

crazy battle i had in a gallic campaign, didn't screenshot most of it so i drew the battle maneuvers from memory lol

>>163795246

rtr 1.9
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>>163795225
because all Gold Wizards commited suicide after realizing how shit Lore of Metal is
>>
>>163795026
No sir, that was taken minutes ago in my very own Middenland campaign.
>>
>>163753381
still can't get past the fact that they were too fucking lazy to FUCKING ANIMATE A CRUMBLING CITY WALL.I mean really?fine, make sieges less interesting, spawn ladders out the ass, but the wall is destroyed and all i see is a bit of mist and poof!it's gone!
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>>163795142
You can't, but the AI can.
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>>163795591
Oh well. I guess it's so they have a chance to confederate and actually become a threat.
>>
i think largest battle I've ever had in rome 1

16,000 men give or take
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>>163754875
>no units with the ability to free scale the wall

It guess it would be too much fun rushing the walls with an army of spiders that traverse them like they are nothing and eat the defenders.
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>>163795751
>End Battle
>Ctd
>>
>Aksum declares war
>begin raising a fleet at Berenice
>just as it's finishing they offer peace and demand money

Should I raze their ports or just sack them?
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>>163795913
You should accept the peace before they introduce the BIG AKSUM COCK to your wives and daughters.
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Well this is going to be a fucking ball-tightening one chaps.

Think I'm just going to try hammer all my 'ardest dudes against Archaon, hope he dies/is wounded, and hope that my infantry line holds out until that happens.
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>>163795845

all those hard won battles........like tears in rain
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>>163795991
Youre gonna lose
>>
>>163793598
>spear wall which work great for halberdiers
I was told to not use that for the halberds since it fucks with their animations apparently.
>>
Would Europa Barbarorum 2 work with a pirated copy of Rome Total War 2? I don't want to give CA money because their games are shit now but the mod looks good.
>>
GONNA _______!
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ive only ever seen this happen once in all my campaigns
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>>163762265
why did i read that in Manlet's voice?
>>
>>163795845
>End Battle
>Ctd
welcome to Call of Warhammer
>>
>>163796224
No but it would work with a pirated copy of Medieval 2 Total War.
>>
>>163796410
fugg

That's what I meant god damn it. Looks like the real CA....was me...
>>
>>163796142

All those trolls are going to push my shit up, I know it, but it's not like retreat is a realistic option. All these fucking doomstacks just out of nowhere ;_;
>>
>>163796375
The Count is a pretty smart dude you know, even if things turned out in the worst way for him.
>>
Why are M2 people such spergy faggots. Like I still count it as probably one of my favorites, but what is it about it that attracts the autismos that have to constantly whinge about "new" games.
>>
>>163796850
Nothing, you just have a persecution complex and think anyone that dislikes Warhammer is an M2 faggot.
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>>163795845
I feel your pain my man.
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Oh my, well that's just awkward
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>>163796850
They have mostly stopped. They became more humble after Attila and so on I guess.
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Anything I should know about these guys before I start? Bumping up difficulty should go fine based on how easy the chosokabe campaign was, but I might regret it later based on how much I dislike the agent portion of the game

Goal based on what their faction description says about them is to meme on all of the Buddhist losers with matchrocks - also saw they had tercos in custom battle so perhaps some t. alberto barbosa action
>>
>>163796917
They were doing it about Rome 2 and Shogun 2 also though, I specifically remember people being giant gaylords even then in both cases.
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> Warhammer Total War has the best diplomacy of a Total War game

Well this is a nice surprise....
>>
>>163797526
It's kinda weird sometimes, but the AI is more predictable after learning all the "mechanics".
>>
>>163797343
Build lots of Nanban trade ships and you'll never have to worry about naval battles ever again

Also move your nanban trade port to the accuracy province so you can build max accuracy tercos
>>
>>163797526
>ai is impossible to work with until chaos comes
>after chaos comes it will do literally anything you want it to if you are playing as a good faction
>best diplomacy in the series

this has to be bait
>>
>>163797526
>>163797949
>>163797654
It's nicer than some previous total wars such as shogun which the AI would betray you constantly, not sure if I would say it was the best though and it seems ok to me.
>>
>>163797346
Rome 2 is a piece of shit and Shogun 2 is the most arcadey game in the series so it's not surprising that people dislike it.
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>turn 2
>>
>>163797949
>>ai is impossible to work with until chaos comes

Now that is wrong. I guess it depends on the faction though.

Diplomacy is totally viable and doable as the Empire.


>>163798218
The most annoying thing about diplomacy in Shogun 2 was when your allies(or weak neutral factions) would declare war on your tiny vassal. The AI can't see that the vassal is part of your fuck huge domain.
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>>163796350
STAB
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Why even play Shitpacker instead of a better game like Shogun 2 or Attila?
>>
>>163798645
>Shitpacker


?????
>>
>>163795991
It's easy as fuck
>one flyer takes out hellcannon
>manlet takes out Chosen
>Vargulf sits on archaon
>hammer and anvil the rest of the army with cav and infantry
>>
How the fuck are you meant to deal with Wood Elves as Undead?
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Zombie pirates of the Vampire Coast when?
>>
>>163799714
KILL THEM
RAISE THEM
>>
>>163799714
Their range units shouldn't be a problem with all the tools you have(bats, hounds and raise dead). Surrounded them.
>>
Was there going to be some tiny free dlc stuff or whatever around new year for TWW?


Wonder what the new Attila content will be.
>>
>>163799962
>Attila
>New Content
>>
>>163798753
warhammer
>>
>>163800093
They said it's a possibility, since the next historical title is so far off. New Attila content may release in order to close the gap.
>>
should i put khazrak on a chariot in campaign?
>>
>>163799714
Shielded Crypt guards, cavalry, Vargheist.

Dealing with 3 dragons in one army is a pain in the fucking ass though.
>>
>>163801117
No. He's much better on foot, in the thick of combat.
>>
>>163800403
>A possibility
>>
>>163801117
A simple guide to Lords, Heroes, and mounts.

>Are they melee-focused or magic-focused?
>Melee: Do not put them on a fucking mount.
>Magic: Put them on a mount so that they can move where you need them to be faster
>>
QUICK, I NEED MANNLET MEMES
>>
>>163801650
What if the mount make them better at melee?
>>
How are the carpets going /twg/? Why can you not turn off city towers from firing 70% of my casualties were from my own arrows hitting my men waiting in the docks for the enemy.
>>
>>163802159
Yeah, and now third of the entire unit roster in this game deals more damage to you.
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>>163802182
You could control arrow towers in Shogun 2 iirc.
>>
>>163801117
Sure, as long as you're alright with him zooming around everywhere and charging through enemies constantly instead of getting stuck in melee.

It requires more micro but he'll get way more kills.
>>
>>163802019
>>
new thread >>163802821
new thread >>163802821
new thread >>163802821
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>>163802879
>22 posts early
retard
>>
>>163802182
I'm laffin
>>
>>163801650
>not putting Karl Franz on Deathclaw
>ignoring Louen on Beaquis

pathetic
>>
>>163749538
rolling
>>
>>163799601

>chaos has as many monsters as vamps have infantry
>skellies lasting more than ten seconds against any of that stuff

20 turns on and I've conceded two provinces, resorted to stomping around with stacks consisting of purely of grave guards, crypt horrors, varghulfs and terrorgheists.
>>
>>163801650

>not giving warbosses the boar for some quick early ap to fuck dorfs with

shit guide kid
>>
>>163797949
On what difficulty? I've never had trouble as VC teaming up with Empire/Dwarves, Orcs being easy, all for some early game fun before Chaos comes.
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G O B L I N S
>>
Picking up Attila, what's the best DLC? I usually don't play anything other than the grand campaign, so I assume the campaign packs aren't worth much to me.

In that case, would it be the Blood pack, Empires of Sand, and possibly the Vikings + Celts?
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>>163779319
>this triggers the vampire
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>>163796353
>Be playing H/H WRE in R1 Barbarian invasion expansion
>Create a new super duper legion with the best units to go crush the Alemanni finally.
>Get ready for the doom stack, swiss scum
>As soon as I'm outside my territory my emperor who has no loyalty disbands the entire army.

Fuck, I was fucking mad. All those misspent sheckles.

I like to think he meet some cute barbarian girl. He disbands the army and runs off to live a long happy life with her. At the cost of the fucking empire though, cunt.
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>>163744270
He's the Warhammer Fantasy version of the Emperor from 40k.

He wants to kill everyone to deprive the gods of their power.
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I didn't really like total war games after Rome, but I'm about to cave and buy Warhammer.

Please talk me out of it.
>>
>>163830490

I don't care what you do
>>
>>163735175
SHAGGING AN ELF?

TAKE THE OATH!!
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