/civ4xg/ - Civilization, Stellaris, Endless and 4X Games General:

I played some of the new Master of Orion. It's definitely got a lot of chrome up front.

What do you think of how ES2 ties its system level and luxury resource systems together?

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So did the latest patch fuck with ship AI? because my cruisers all charge ahead of corvettes despite being slow as fuck. And my battleships keeps acting retarded, 1 will charge forward while the other sits back waaaay out of range and doesn't fire weapons and both of them are the same class.

>starts reading a Distant Worlds fanfic
>guys starts by creating 14 battalions on his homeworld
>adds soldiers quarters on his ships
I am shit.

>>163712786
>fanfic
I mean Let's Play.

>>163712071
What game?

If it's Stellaris, the combat AI has always been retarded.

was buying endless legends with all the dlc a good idea

>>163714998
Very good idea

>>163712045
Makes sense. Civilization tends to develop with wealth. Gives luxury resources more meaning as well.

>>163714998
Probably the best purchase you made honestly.
Amplitude is like paradox where they have the base game that's kinda meh but the DLC's are really fucking good.
Except in Amplitude's case the base game is actually fairly good in its own right, but still the DLC's add so much stuff its great.
>Espionage.
>Pearl system for getting bonuses.
>Seabases that provide resource bonuses.
>PILLAGING
Not to mention three fundamentally different factions that excel at their expansion's added mechanic.

>>163712786
>>163713227
Link it faggot.

>>163715219
Civilizations also fall thanks to wealth.

>>163716052
True, but I still don't think tying system level to luxury resources is a bad decision.

Civ 6 Deluxe or standard edition?

is 6 even good? I liked 5 with the expansions

>>163715402
I personally don't care for the pillaging in EL, I've never found a use for it. What exactly am i missing out on?

>>163711076
What should I get from the steam winter sale?

>>163721890
I have 40 of my 100 left. I'm thinking of getting the steamlink and steam controller for maximun 4x comfy

>>163721007
I think Civ6 is great, and it will be far better than civ5 once it gets some more balancing done.

Kinda regret not buying the deluxe edition myself, since I want the additional DLCs you get down the line that are included in the deluxe.

>>163722204
It's only the first 4 DLC for the deluxe

>>163722449
Yeah, I want those.

The poland DLC in particular.

>>163722549
DO you have a crush on her?

>>163722678
No, but they have a unique commercial hub!

And insane tile expansion!

>>163721376
It was more the situation at the time that made it good.
>Be playing wild walkers to learn the ropes.
>Got this sweet ass archer blueprint that shits on everything in its current era but needs 10 glassteel 10 titanium.
>Glassteel isn't an issue but I'm fucking hurting for titanium, especially after spending a bunch on lumber mills and apprentice registry's for non-pop industry boosts.
>Don't have coinage researched yet because my research was going slow as fuck that game.
>Only other nation next to me on my lonesome continent is the broken lords.
>Compliment them to keep relations decent and open opportunity to get along with you because I'm just looking to expand right now.
>Declares war on me the turn after I compliment them.
>K
>Go to war and kick their ass back to their capital with the two sweet ass archers I got going (along with a couple urces for tanking stalwarts).
>They have a titanium extractor in the outskirts.
>Pillage extractor while my spy gets some infiltration points on their cap.
>Two turns to pillage for a fat 15 titanium bonus along with some dust.
Felt pretty fucking good.

>>163722028
Anyone else play games with the steam controller? Is it any good?

>>163721890
probably bnw if you don't have it.

I thought, yea I might as well buy it this sale.
I bought vanilla at launch, then never bought any dlc.
But as I was about to buy it I realized that I bought it at -92% last year.

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What did the new Cossacks patch do?

>>163726430
What is bnw?

>>163726975
Brevarru New Wordu

>>163726430
>I was about to buy it but I realized I had it already.
Must not be that great if the experience is that fucking forgetful.

>>163727105
I played it for years pirated.
Then I thought, well I should finally buy the rest of it.

I played vanilla back in 2010 on a pirated version for two weeks and then bought a real version, without a sale.

>>163714707
Yeah it's Stellaris. For some reason my cruisers and battleships act retarded instead of battling the way they should. My Corvettes have 3.0 for speed and yet my cruisers just blast past them to be the first to fight despite being slow as fuck.

In stellaris, there's no way to ask for a faction to open it's borders? I'm doing the exotic creature quest and my "defense pact +115 trust" friend closed his borders with me.

Why'd you ever buy an amplitude game, now? They were bought by Sega this summer; don't give those pigs money.

>>163716052
http://lparchive.org/Distant-Worlds-Legends/

Same guy also did a Crusader Kings 2, Europa Universalis IV, Victoria II, Distant Worlds Let's Play.

>>163730425
Well, Sega has actually release a few good products, look at Total War Warhammer and Alien Isolation, and we already know Amplitude can make great games by having near perfect tracl record from Endless Space to Endless Legend. ES1 is kinda simple in that regard, but it was their first game and they needed to find out what they wanted to do and how to do it which became really good in EL.
ES2 seems to become a really interestning game aswell.

Give them the money so Sega knows this is a company worth investing in.

Inb4 shill. I just love EL a lot

>>163732963
>Alien Isolation
>good
No.

>>163729886
you can go to war with them and demand they open their borders :^)
Such a diplomatic way to ask for passage through their territory :^)

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Is ES2 worth buying into? I've enjoyed ES1 and EL, hell I've got a good few hours in all of their games.
I'm probably going to buy it eventually, I'm just wondering if its worth it so far in its current state.

>>163733946
Still EA.

>>163733149
Paradox made Europa Universalis right? Why is the diplomacy so terrible in Stellaris.

>>163734021
Eh, I've bought EA games before. Some ended up great like CotN, and then starbound. I've seen both sides of what comes out of that shit.
I just want to know if its potential is currently there and amplitude IS working on it during EA as is the purpose of the entire system.

>>163734057
It is a mystery. Even I managed to have fun with Europa Universalis IV. How they could fuck up Stellaris this bad is a complete mystery.

>>163734057
>>163734180
Stellaris is Paradox's first attempt at a 4x game, in which I really believe they were trying to copy off of SoSE (in which they failed miserably).
I guess they thought that because its a 4x that means it doesn't need that good a diplomacy, which makes no fucking sense but whatever.

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I wish i could build a city here.

Also question just cause im curious. Which world wonder gives the most Science when you use Darwin on it?

>>163734256
Anyone with some experience in marketing could've told them that people buy paradox games for the grand aspect.
So unless they tried to casualize their game to bring a new fanbase, I don't see why Stellaris is so simple compared to Crusader "Eugenism" Kings 2 or Europa "MANA" universalis 4.

>>163729886
Nope. If they have enough reason to close their borders to you then they will remain closed until you force them open with war. The AI suffers from a serious lack of pragmatism. It seems to make all diplomatic decisions based on their ethics and economic or strategic advantages do not factor in at all. So even if a deal would be extremely beneficial to them in short and/or long term they will refuse it purely because they don't like your empire's policy on, say, AI servitude.

>>163734349
Civilization never got mountain-tunnels?

>>163734256
>I really believe they were trying to copy off of SoSE
It does feel like that, but lately they seem to be copying off Civ V with the traditions thing they're implementing in 1.5. Which I guess is a good thing since it adds more depth to things, but it doesn't really fix any of the systemic issues with gameplay.

Is Stellaris all about doom stack fleets or is there any strategy to fleet-building?

>>163733946
If you're going to buy it eventually, buy it now then since it is discounted compared to the full release.

>>163734868
There's a dominant meta for weapon types and you can't deviate from it too much or you won't get anywhere. You're better off having one mega fleet because the way battles work even if you have multiple smaller fleets whose combined power is greater than the enemy they will still win if their power is greater than the individual fleets they engage against. It's retarded.

>>163729886
besides war, none
or wait endgame crisis, they will all open their borders and let it that way forever, even those -1000 fanatical purifiers

>still reading the Distant Worlds LP
>the guy refused to pay pirates and went to fight them immediately
i have really been playing this game wrong, doing nothing but fatten them pirates.

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>literally taking a month to achieve 1% of upgrades on my fleet

>>163736832
Aizawa-San?

>>163736341
the guy got his shit pushed in for the next 300 years

>>163738350
At least he survived longer than I did.

>>163724936
I was surprised by the steam controller in a good way. Haptic feedback touch pads are responsive and let me move cursors with enough accuracy for me to play Distant Worlds from my couch.
Single player shooters are also comfy as fuck to play with a controller.
Another thing to note is that a game doesn't have to have controller support to have a good control scheme. More often than not there are decent community made control configurations for games without dedicated controller support.
All that said, I wish they'd make a 2.0 version already. Tons of little not-picky things that could be improved.

>>163739786
>playing Distant Worlds
>with a controller
Huh.

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>>163740030
It makes me feel like a captain sitting in my commander chair.

>>163740504
>no friends
I feel sorry for you.
>Cortex Command
I feel even sorrier for you.
>Risk of Rain
>Star Ruler 2
Decent taste senpai.

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So is Civ VI good now? Also when is Poland coming out since Firaxis recently released the leader preview?

Thinking about getting Stellaris in Steam Winter sale

Is it worth it?

>>163741405
If it's 50 or 75%, yeah. otherwise, no.

>>163712786
Troop bays on warships is both good and bad.

Good b/c you can snipe-invade independants with a small task force and have some ready made defence in position immediately.

Bad b/c a dedicated troop ship is better at carrying shooty mans, and bays take up space you could use for guns or fuel, and you're paying maint. for something you'll barely use.

If you *have* to have troops on a warship use boarding pods, they are better in 99% of cases.
Use dedicated troop ships for your spess adventurism.
Build a supply ship with the bare minimum mission equipment to qualify the design and fill the rest of the space with troop bays, then pick up your entire homeworld garrison and drop it someone who's been giving you shit. whoslaughingnow.txt

>>163736341
Yes. There have been several people saying the same thing for a while now.
Give pirates nothing, and kick them in dick repeatedly until they become irrelevant. Repeat.

There are only 3 occaisons where pirates are an actual threat you have to give a shit about:

A pirate gang gets lucky enough to have enough money to build a collossal fleet of bees. Individual ships are weak but there's so many of them they are a complete pain to fight.

A pirate gang gets lucky enough to have a spy character with decent sabotage skills.
Sabotage missions have a decent chance for success, and skills boost it further.
Annoying as fuck replacing random stations, but acts as a good motivator to stomp on thier heads until they stop moving.

You have disasters turned on, and you've run the game long enough to spawn a 'dread pirate' gang.
These guys don't fuck about and behave actually competantly, attacking things with a fleet instead of odd ships.

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>>163740841
>no friends
I usually keep steam in offline mode unless I play multiplayer
>Cortex Command
Yeah you've got me there. Neat for what it is, but something feels lacking.

Anyways, found a colony ship full of bugs. Think I'm going to give them the benefit of the doubt and let them live. Give 'em a fighting chance, it's the least we can do for a ship of what practically amounts to refugees.

>>163742097
>kick them in dick
Even since I started playing Metroid prime, I have enjoyed kicking pirates in the dick.

>>163742197
REMOVE BUGS REMOVE BUGS

>>163742197
Stranded colony ships are one of the better things you can find.
Especially if it contains a race who can colonise a type of planet currently unavailable to you.
If you can keep a majority population wherever you settle them, you can build more colony ships (and troops) of that race.

The only downside is that if your race is one that the bugs naturally rival, then you'll have a happiness penalty on any planet with the bugs on it. Not huge, just means lower taxes.

HUG THE BUGS.

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>>163742290
>REMOVE BUGS REMOVE BUGS
>>163742551
>HUG THE BUGS.

They immediately rebelled. I'm hoping not much will come of it. Nothing to do but ride it out.
On the upside a second colony ship full of Kiadians has been picked up by explorers. Hoping they'll be a tad bit more agreeable to their defrosting.

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>>163742923
>They immediately rebelled.
Thats what you get for trusting xenos.

Suffer not xeno to live.

>>163742923
>They immediately rebelled. I'm hoping not much will come of it. Nothing to do but ride it out.
They're just upset b/c the planet has zero resources on it. Just zero the taxes, and wait for some frieghters turn up, you'll be fine.

You can hurry things a little if you order a small port to built, as ports are priority projects and attract transports from all over.
Make sure to put a medical and recreation bay on it to get a bit of extra happy.

>>163743053
Shush.
HUGS followed by gentle exploitation

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>>163743053
>Suffer not xeno to live.
Relax, warrior. There will come a day in this galaxy where your fervor for battle will be called upon against greater foes than these.
Besides, they've settled down now, much like how >>163743153 predicted. Just some growing pains is all.
The interesting development is a proposal to dump the colony ship full of Kiadians onto an independent world populated by Gizureans. I'm going to have to give this one a pass.

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>>163743664
>not playing on full manual

Disgusting heretic

>>163743664
>volcanic planet
NAME IT MUSTAPHAR

>>163743664
You WANT that Gizurean world if you can get it.
The ability to colonise volcanic worlds this early in a Human game is big. (And thier maintenance saving skill won't hurt either.)

Colony ships can work, but it's not likley as they are naturally hostile.
Not worth potentially wasting the Kiadans on that.

>>163743927
I'm not actually following these suggestions. They're there as reminders only. Though I will freely admit to some habits that could be described as lazy, perhaps.
>>163744025
>The ability to colonise volcanic worlds this early in a Human game is big. (And thier maintenance saving skill won't hurt either.)
You gain colonization techs by absorbing other species?

>>163744314
>You gain colonization techs by absorbing other species?
If you load up colony ship with THEIR species you can colonize their planets.
You still need tech to colonize something with you main race.

IIRC

>>163734349
I'm guessing the white cliffs of Dover

>>163744314
>>163744382
>You gain colonization techs by absorbing other species?
Not directly.
But any world uses the majority population to fill colony ships built there, and create troops raised there.

So if you control that volcanic world, it will likely have a majority Gizurean population forever, and any colony ships you build there will use Gizurean pop which can colonise volcanic worlds by default.

The only downside is the happiness penalty, which as you've seen is managable.

is there a 'how to play' pdf/guide for aurora 4x?

>>163744735
http://aurorawiki.pentarch.org
Closest thing I can think of.

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NATO continue its expansion into space.

New batch of survey ships have been ordered to speed up the scouting process of the nearby systems.

New generation of sensors suited for warships is being researched and i predict that in 5 years i will have first warships rolling of the shipyards.

>>163744735
There is none.
Use wiki, LP on Youtube and trails and error.

>>163744957
DUDE DATA ENTRY LMAO

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It's not all fun and games. These bugs may be pissed now, but we do this for their own good. Namely, keeping humans happy.

Is poland really op again?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QqE0hFU7_-o

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>>163744957
First batch of Defiant class DE's will be rolling off shipyard in two years, that is on 30 January 2037.

Additional Athena class DD have been designed but shipyard that is meant to build her is still being expanded to appropriate size ( bitch is almost 10k tons heavier than Defiants thanks to more MAC's, Rakshasa launchers, magazines and additional FC )

>>163745649
Im sorry what ?

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>>163746525
And here it is the Athena class.
Sexy bitch.

>>163746318
>troop transport 001
>battleaxe 002

My autism cant handle it ... ;/

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>>163746639
More good news from the Eden system.
Eden A-IV has just become breathable, temp is still in huge minus C but at least atmo is good for humans.

And those new sweet mineral deposits <3

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>>163746639
>>troop transport 001
>>battleaxe 002
>
>My autism cant handle it ... ;/

You'll be ok.

>>163747207
>those classes names

>falls to the floor frothing like rabid dog

Plz staph..

>>163747392
Even better, when you build escorts, frigates and destroyers they just get sequential numbers appended to them.

Only cruisers and larger get actual names.

>>163747718
I know but you can rename them yourself nigguh...

>>163733946
Unless you absolutely adore the setting of the endless games, hold off on it for a bit. It's getting there, but there are still balance issues, some minor niggling things with missions, and performance/stability problems as the game goes on.

UE is boss and OP as fuck right now. They're pretty much on par with the cravers as production goes thanks to their bonuses, don't suffer from overconsumption, and while they field fewer ships in a fleet than the cravers, their ships get extra gun mounts at the cost of defense which is disgusting early game because they can just sit at maximum range and shit lasers at anything until it dies.

Every other race feels really shitty compared to the UE.

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I can always come up with fancy designations and classifications for ships later, after I specialize them a bit. For now, avoiding conflict is the name of the game.
Also, 72k for civilian sector? I don't claim to know anything about this damn game but that seems a little low to me.

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>>163747113
First Athena is to be complete in 2 years, meanwhile two shipyards will plop out a decent number of Deiants.

What do you think of Civilization VI? Is it good? Would you recommend it?

>>163748193
haven't had a chance to play it that much sadly

districts and aoe effects made city planning more fun for me

>>163747980
That is low. Civvies are usually rolling in cash.
Although you hardly have any pop at all - 9B is tiny, and spread over 6 worlds means your infrastructure (planetary developmet rating) is going to be low so the economy is hardly moving b/c there isn't enough development to drive it.

Lower taxes and grow that pop.
Easier said than done with a red balance...
See if you're missing any resources (especially luxuries) and try to get a mine on them as soon as you find a free source. That will drive up the dev. rating.

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>tfw on my third day of the same Stellaris campaign

Guys I think I underestimated how big space can be

>>163749045
nigger it takes me something like 2 weeks to finish a single stellaris game

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When the spawn is juuust right

Does anyone have the digs on the latest developments of GalCiv3? I know there was a recent patch and I got the itch; I played it a bit on release - the performance issues didn't matter too much for me, but the game itself felt kind of unbalanced and wonky. Is it more interesting, now?

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>>163749045
>>163749248
Thats fucking great.
Leave 4 hour cammpaigns for Call of Battlefield.

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>>163750315
juuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuust right

>>163749045
Yes it is. Space is bigger than you can imagine.
It's literally beyond your understanding. You can calculate it, you can get numbers, but you can't truly comprehend it.

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>>163748065
Fuck yeah, first batch of ships is ready.

Time to upgrade armour and build MKII's.

>extended DW with better AI mod
>pirates so buffed they start fighting multi sided battles against eachother and the ancient guardians over indie planets with the ancient cruisers they scavenged
>in the middle of the battle my and three other empires colony ships rush to the contested planet to try settling there to grab the precious reserves of opals
This is getting intense

>>163748638
Yeah I think I tried to expand a bit too quickly. I've got colony ships queued up but they're being built so slowly their targets are being settled by other empires.
At this point its as you've said, just let the colonies grow while the budget goes a little loopy. Or savescum. Can't deny how tempting that is.

Tfw Defender of Faith Theocracy with 4000 faith and someone decalres war on me
I hope they hurry up with the mod tools for civ 6 because it could be pretty damn fun.

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>>163751845
UNS Neil Armstrong discovered new system ... with completely habitable planet ..

PANIC.jpg

Time to approach it vewy vewy slowly.

>barely any game shows how the planet changes with built improvements and population

>>163748065
>>163751845
>>163752932
this game looks fun

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>>163752932
Aaaaaand of course i jinxed it ...

So im in for a good old First Contact war on top of guarding against Soviets on Earth ..

This gonna be fun .

>>163741059
poland is already out
as DLC

>>163753347
Aliens population EM signature : 269k
Earth EM signature : 203k

Welp, i will have to overrun both Russians and South American Alliance ...

Tough times require tough choices i guess..

>>163753723
I got it for free when I bought it I guess.
Shes cute. Thats all I remember about her.

>>163753723
>>163741059
>>163753885
Poland is the most aggressive forward settler. She drops an ecampment and then just staright up takes your land and fucks your women

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>>163753806
War again ...

Before we could even communicate with them, Paris aliens opened fire on UNS Neil Armstrong destroying it and killing its CO Commodore Naomi Power and 61 crewmen ...

NATO is now at war with the first encoutered alien species and probably so are Soviets and South Americans because its doubtful that aliens care about difference between human nations ...

Semper Humanis you xeno motherfuckers.

>>163730425
I am fond of pigs

>>163755069
Ya know i actually liked that line the first time
the other 300...

>>163746482
Goodness, yes.

>>163750436

Too bad its going to be a samey, easy, boring slog every single time after. We have all been there bro, the first playthrough seems amazing and the exploration is great but there is nothing behind it.

>>163746482
They can instantly convert your city to their religion just by dropping a fort near it. Which can be +10 or someodd strength to every one of their units with certain religion things.

I want to fug Jadwiga

>>163756135
>Download bigger galaxy mod
>start with something other than min-maxed build
>higher difficulty level
>try different playtroughs ( genocidal maniac, extereme pacifist etc )

Spice it up nigga, keep it fresh.

Or switch to Aurora or DW.

>>163756328

>Download bigger galaxy mod

make it an even longer and laggier slog?

>start with something other than min-maxed build

playing like shit on purpose? like I'm on SWTOR forums in 2012 again

>higher difficulty level

I play it on insane/agressive/iron man and the AI still folds like wet paper because its so dumb it literally cant manage planets. Like enslaved thrifty race scientists on an ultra rich+asteroid belt planet.

>try different playtroughs ( genocidal maniac, extereme pacifist etc )

Its L I T E R A L L Y the fucking same! Sitting on your ass waiting truces to expire before you fight long, boring and completely unchallanging wars because you after you smash the AI doomfleet and destroyed their level 5-6 stations they will never be a threat again.

>>163756260
get in line

>>163757935
>playing on ironman
How do you stomach the game hiccuping every four seconds to save? Just don't savescum nigga

>>163757935
>playing like shit on purpose?
No, it means playing on something other than ubershit traits and ethics.

Did they fix the AI or something? I played three games and in all of those an AI got close to winning science victory.

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Why is Endless Legend the best 4x game since Civ IV? What went right?

>>163755069
Pigs do get an unwarranted bad reputation due to capitalists, yes.

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>>163760648
In my opinion it is the best 4X that has ever been released so far.

I find it more fun than SMAC, DW, Stellaris and Civ IV.

Right now I hope Endless Space 2 will turn out to be another masterpiece, but I guess that will require a few expansions like all 4X games do.

Redpill me on VI, /civ4xg/.

Is it worth buying yet?

Also why did they not bring back the badass zoomed out globe view from IV?

>>163762546
Apparently its shit
I liked it when I pirated it but only for a couple hours

>>163762741

Yea I also pirated it to check it out but I'm too lazy to actually play it long enough to get a sense of how it measures up.

If it's actually good I would buy it.

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>>163760648
The best ingame music for a comfy 4X game so far. I even find it more immersive than the music in StarCraft 1 which is still really good.

The diversity of tech which gives you different options on how to deal with roaming armies, tech, wonders, equipment for units and heroes etc..

The diverse feel between all of the factions which multiplies replayability by a billion and makes it more fun to play with friends where you all obtain tech and resources differently in most cases.

Great graphics where everything really fit the setting.

There is always something fun to do, quests, ruins, infiltration, level up armies and heroes, designing units etc..

Fun D&D'ish initiative based combat.

Every faction can buy heroes from whatever faction type they want to get that exact type of boosts to their army, cities etc..

That you can choose what your heroes shall be, spies, gouvernors, generals etc..

All units in the game are quite different and it requires you to actually plan your army compositions.

Just everything is great.

Yeah I know all of the boards here require you to bash at least 50% of the game you're talking about to make your opinion seem genuine so I'll try to find a few flaws.

Flaw 1. In some rare cases, the initiative system may do some weird quirks in combat, but that's really rare and only apply to a certain unit IIRC.

Flaw 2. I dont think there will be more expansions because they are working on ES2, and next will be ES2 expansions and then maybe EL2.

Flaw 3.

>>163763043
Flaw 3 would be that in multiplayer it will say that you and your buddies are out of sync mid game, but just dismiss the message. Also, sometimes when you enter a new Tech Era, you will get an error message, just click continue, both errors are wrong.

>>163763043
The only problem I have with EL is that I suck massive dicks with the dosh lords and cannot ever seem to play them right.

>>163763014
I'd wait until you have time to get a few full games going.
Maybe an expansion.

From what I've played it seems fine, but I see a lot of complaints.
I think it may boil down to lack of polish which could be fixed with patches even.
pun not intended

Endless space is a joke, I can't progress anywhere because by turn 50 someone has declared war on me and I can't even compete... How am I meant to play this?

>>163763891
>The only problem I have with EL is that I suck massive dicks
That's a personal problem, Anon. Don't blame EL for your dick-sucking tendencies.

>>163762546
Yes, buy pls

civ 6 mods when?

>>163763891
Just settle your first city in a place with a lot of money. Put a dust lord gouvernor there and just amass money.

Also, I advice to create a custom faction where you add Celulose Mutation to them which makes them the best Faction in game.

My favorite factions are Forgotten, Morgawr and Necrophages because they play so very differently.

>>163763891
Also, remember to tech Language sqare and do quests all the time for huge amounts of dust.

Catspaw is a good trait to have aswell for getting some untis early game by the use of influence to kill of those quest mobs while letting your cities focus on the long term plan.

i'm about to play endless legend for first time, any good guides or tips for beginners?

>>163766825
Play as roving clans and wreck all your enemies asap.

>>163766825

https://steamcommunity.com/app/289130/guides/?searchText=&browsefilter=trend&browsesort=creationorder&requiredtags%5B%5D=Gameplay+Basics&requiredtags%5B%5D=-1#scrollTop=0

Start with the basics.
Learn the build order for your faction and how to build your heroes.

I suggest starting with either Wild Walkers or Vaulters because they are the most basic and have really strong units.


Random learn to play video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYRtyDNcBcs

>>163762546
Wait til at least the first expansion because the base game of VI contains more than the base game of V, so I guess the first expansion may make it as good as V.

BUT, I dont really care. EL, ES2 and Stellaris is where it's at because they all do everything better than Civ.

Civ has become "babbys first" 4X.

The only Civilization games you want are heavly modded IV or V. Without mods, they are too plain.

>>163767510

>The only Civilization games you want
>V

Is this fucking bait? V and VI are exactly the same and use the same shitty mechanics.

>>163768415
V is ok with MODS,.
No mods for VI yet, not sure how much we can mod it either.

>>163766825
Play as cultists, they're by far the easiest faction.

Star Ruler is nice , why its so combat oriented? Coulda have been a good all around 4x.

Tried space empires iv, couldn't handle the graphics.

>>163767510

I'm thinking of getting endless legend on sale

Are the endless space games good? I already have Stellaris.

>>163770783
Endless Space is fun, but the AI is brutal and cheats, and the combat is frustrating.
Endless Legend is even better, but the combat is even more frustrating.
Endless Space 2 looks like Gratuitous Space Battles with a 4X dimension.

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>>163770454
>Star Ruler is nice
More like complete trash.

>Tried space empires iv
Try 5, way better but runs like crap at anything other than win XP.

>>163771465
Im downloading aurora and will try to channel my inner autism and learn to play it

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>>163771051
>Frustrating combat

Are you bad, or are you the most unlucky person in the world who may experience the initative bug once a day?

I find the combat to be really good with how to place yourself.

TIPS:

Change the stance on your units to hold position if you dont want them to jump around and put themselves into stupid positions.

You can hold down SHIFT to assign a move and attack order after each other for perfect placements in case of beam attacks etc..

Auto Resolve combat calculates sometimes really weird in fights you should have easly won.

Do manual combat for much better results in some cases.
I've also noticed a few cases where auto combat has given better results than I've could have dreamed of by doing manual.

>>163771882
>"how dare you disagree with me"
Nah, fuck off.

>>163770783
Endless Space is quite simple. It was Amplitudes first game.

Get Endless Legend. It's the best they have done.

Endless Space 2 may become a really good game too, but it wont get most of its features until february/march which is the estimated release date.

>>163771882
>You can shift queue combat commands.
Holy shit the tutorial doesn't explain shit does it.

>>163771635
Have fun.

>>163772070
>expecting a tutorial to hold your hand
Get good.

>>163771465
Star ruler is golden. You are just a autistic plebeian who thinks complexity=good and would play any shit as long as you need hours of dedication to overcome the myriad of bugs and bad design decisions just too look smart.

>>163772135
1 or 2?

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>>163771992
I gave arguments for why it's good.

You just say it's shit without telling us why.

Something tells me you just lack some skill at strategy, because I can assure you after houndreds of ours into it, that the combat is good.

>>163772184
Both you shitstick

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>>163772135
>Star ruler is golden

Yeah if you like the game that basically boils down to "click faster than korean in Starcraft and have your entire empire on auto if you wish to keep up with the enemy", then yeah its fucking golden.
To us, people with taste - its shit.

>>163772267
no bully

>>163772093
>>163772202
>"your just shit"
Nah, fuck off.

>>163772070

This is the reason why people don't like the combat. They just right click attack everything without positioning themselves correctly when you meet units with beam attacks and the like.

People need to learn how to play before they whine.

>>163772410
Yeah.
It's totally not because combats are tedious, that units can blocks each others, that you can't order an order to move where another unit is currently standing, or because it's just boring.

No sir, people are just shit.

>>163772879
Learn to plan your game mate.
Think outside the box.

>>163772332
Taste for what? Cum? Because you sound like a passive agressive little bitch

>>163773064
The Aurorafag is interesting, but the moment you speak of any other games, he begins being really annoying.

>>163742097
If you have good relations with a pirate faction when the super pirates show up, there's a pretty good chance the gfriendly pirates will beg to join your empire. Not that this is a huge boost or anything, but just to point out there is at least one reason to buy off pirates.
I usually buy them off as early as possible , to get the cheapest protection rates, and then buy a secret or two off of them. don't bother buying info from them if they are too far away, they'll just tell you about some awesome ship graveyard or superweapon far beyond your range that NPCs are getting to harvest.
BTW said items are the biggest unbalanced facotr in the game. Some shitter podunk alien race spawns near a bunch of abandoned ships and get catapulted to a military superpower, and there's very little you can do about it, unless you are close enough to horn in on the scavenging.

>>163773107
>>163773064
Fuck you nigga, i like GOOD space 4x like DW or Aurora. Retarded "who builds more" clickfests like Star Ruler are not in that category.

>>163773304
There's better criticism than just saying "it's a clickfest". I don't remember Aurora being playable without a mouse...

>>163773436
Yeah but there is a difference between game that is a "clickfest" like some shitty korean e-sport strategy and game that simply requires mouse to play.

Dont act dumber that you really are.

>>163773615
This is why nobody like you.
You're comparing Starcraft 2 and Star Ruler 2, and you act all condescending and insulting when people disagree with you.

>>163773737
Im not comparing it you dense tard, im saying that for a supposed space 4x Star Ruler is devolved to "who clicks faster " bullshit just like supposed strategy game like Starcraft 2 or any other rts.

>>163773862
More childish insults.
You're doing of fine job of making yourself even more unsufferable. At this rate, Aurora will become unwelcome here, and it'll be all your fault.

>>163771465
>>163770454
I love space empires iv (v is okay), but the AI runs off a script and eventually it just stops doing anything at all. It isnt even an AI.

and no one plays it online, sooooo

>all this thread drama
fuck off /gsg/

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>>163774095
M-m-mommy he hurt my feewlings !!

Fuck off.

>>163774129
Yeah its a shame. I liked more V, it had separation of ordnance and supplies, cool 3d engine ( man those ship sets were awesome ).
Shame that those performance and overall bugs killed that game.
>tfw there wil never be SE VI

Ha shit.
I thought "regenerating ressources" in DW:U meant unlimited ressources.
Shit.

>>163711883
Do you think it's worth pirating? (is the DLC even piratable yet?)
Is it popular as a game (not CIv-like popularity of course, but still popular) or is it played by very few people like Distant Worlds?

>drama about star ruler 2 in the thread
As someone who bought it a few days ago and has since logged ~10 hours playing it, allow me to throw in my 2 cents.

I don't think it's a 4x game. Really, I don't. The entire game is focused around one thing, building up a flagship with more supply in order to have a bigger fleet than the other guy. The tech tree is so awful that it seems almost pointless, and diplomacy might as well not even be there. The Senate is an interesting gimmick that ultimate does nothing. You could attempt to use it to peacefully annex systems, but if you piss off an AI stronger than you, then they'll just declare war and take them back anyways.

There are several types of FTL travel, but again, why bother when it's barely faster than non-ftl travel?

The planet resource system had genuine potential, but it's mostly untapped. Ditto for ringworlds, which are so annoying to make that you might as well just not bother.

Does anyone here still play Master of Orion 2? I'd like to try it instead of the 50+ bucks prettier Masters of Orion + DLC and would like some tips for someone who never approached Master of orion at all.

>>163776349
Yes. It's fun, but I don't think you want any tips from me. I never played against other people, so all I could tell you is how to beat the AI on hard.

Colonizing traits > research traits. Your ships being garbage doesn't matter that much if you can make a lot more of them.

>>163776049
There's no drama. Just an autist who insists on calling it a clickfest.

>>163774239
Hey, the bantz keeps the thread alive. Gotta have bad times to appreciate the good and all that shit. Let the kids work some steam off.

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This is how an AI homeworld looks over 100 years into the game.

Stellaris AI is a joke

>>163774239
/gsg/ is dying. they have their threads die off more than /civ4x lately. The autism is so weaponized they won't talk about HoI 4 there.
Ergo, the trolls and shitposters are slowly migrating here.

>>163778249
And the worst part about Stellaris AI is that in order to expand you HAVE to commit your already-developed planets to the AI, and since expansion is so stupidly key to everything IN Stellaris there's no way to avoid it.

>>163778368
>/gsg/ is dying
That's what they get for being so damn autistic about what is and isn't included.

>science breakthrough on precursor warp drive
YES!
YES!!

This time, I won't forget putting it on every civilian ship.

>another breakthrough
>on enhanced gravitic beam
I AM SO ERECT THAT I COULD PENETRATE A LAND RAIDER EXHAUST PORT WITH MY DICK

I seriously need some new music for Stellaris. Already exhausted the Interstellar soundtrack

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Trying to get the ball rolling on the good ol' space empire but I'm in a bit of a rough spot. Any tips for invigorating the private sector? I've got a lot of colony ships I want built in not a lot of time. Current administration doesn't really help matters, what with giving negatives to everything important to to growth of the empire. How bad would it be if he were to "step down" from their position?

Also, if it possible to build colony ships on their own? I see no option to build them under the build order tab. The only other place I know of to queue their construction is in the expansion planner.

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Is this OK? Or just is it too generic? Do you ever bother with describing the story of the species?

What are some /4xg/ I should get for the sale?

>wrong research for colonization
HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Holy cow, putting hyperdrive on freighters makes trade SO FUCKING FAST.

>>163779149
>just doing generic space insects

bruh

>>163779487
Endless games are generally good recommendations.
You can get all of EL for $28 (base game + DLC's) or if you're willing to part with another $10 get ES1 and Dungeon of the Endless (not a 4x but a great game in its own right) in addition.
EL base game is $7-8 and ES plus its single DLC is $8.

>>163773260
Iit's not a bad reason to be honest, but it's more satisfying and costs less to murder them.
And you still get a chance for them to join you when you kick in a pirate base.

Other things you can get from applying lasers to pirate faces:
>Locations for indy colonies
>Locations for abandoned ships and bases
>A pile of money
>If the pirate gang is 'defeated' any mines, mining ships and constructors are left abandoned in space

And don't harsh on the shipwreck fields man.
They call to my inner magpie, for they are shiny. So very very shiny.
*CAW*

>>163775073
All resources in DW are infinte.
With 1 exception: Res on a colony can be depleted and disappear.
You can also find new res on a colony

>>163776349
Yes.
Population = Production = Victory. You want as much pop as you can squeeze onto your worlds.

As tempting as using the biggest and newest toys is, it is almost always more effective to use an older tech with added mods.
eg; Picking the battle scanner tech and combining it with any auto fire weapon means you become almost immune to missiles & fighters.

Missiles rule the early game, cheap disposable x2 launchers give you a decent punch for little investment.
While beams rule the late game with all the accuracy bonuses and power multipliers.

>>163778249
Haha oh wow. Not only is the AI total shit at making decisions it can't even play the fucking game.

>>163780935
What's Res?

>>163779065
You can build colony ships if you select a colony and open the build pane at the bottom under the planet display, there you have buttons for the various ports, along with constructors and colony ships.

That leader is so confused.
Some minor money bonuses, but growth and happiness penalties.Not sure what happens if you bin him, I've never done that.
I'd imagine if you're running a 'voting' type government then you'd just trigger an new election.

Private sector needs resources.
Look in your expansion planner at the top, you'll see a list of all the resources in the game and how many sources of them you have etc.
Look for any res you don't have sources for and try to fill in the gaps.
THEN look in that same list for your empire 'unfulfiled' requests, and see if you can find any more of those res anywhere.
Once your planets get a steady stream of materials coming in, thier development will start to climb and thier growth rate will increase.

Sometimes resources just spawn in crap locations so you have to bus materials right accross your empire and end up with shortages and low development.

>>163781104
Any. All. If it's on an inhabited world it has a chance to just disappear from 'overuse' because RNG is fun or something.

>>163781104
>>163782315
Sorry. I'm a retard.
Resources.

>>163782556
Wait, so ressources are limited except when they're not?
I must be really tired.

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>>163779149
Nah man, if you do space bugs do something like this that is less cliche and more designed to be super annoying.

>>163780875
Because of how the resource system works, DotE gets much easier with each additional player.

>>163782642
All resources are functionally unlimited. They never run out or diminish etc.

But if you're unlucky and/or RNGeesus hates you, you can get a random event that picks one of your colonies, then picks one of the resources on that colony and says "nope, you're having any more of that" and it disappears.
You still keep any stock you already mined, but you can't get any more b/c it's not there any more.

So no you're not tired, it's just DW being DW.

>>163782664
Those space bugs are maximum adorbs.
I want to stroke that soft fuzzy.... Fuzzy bit.

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>>163782664
>>163783341
>xenophile
>deviants

>>163783107
So if I find a good planets filled with ressources, I must not colonize it but mine it.

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/gsg/ tourist here

So how does the stellaris mod archive work in the OP? Where do you extract these folders, and how do you even tell which ones to grab? Do you just grab all of them?

>>163782664

Can I steal this one?

>>163783649
A colony is worth more than a resource.
The event is not common enough to worry about that much. It's just something to be aware of.

The event also works in reverse. A colony can 'find' a new resource it didn't have before.

>>163784037
I dunno, I keep getting alerts that I miss Helium to retrofit all my ships.

Which is the best form of FTL in Stellaris?

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>>163783950
Go ahead. I have lots of ideas for factions I never play, but I have them set to force-spawn in games cause it's fun to run into them. Just wish the AI wasn't so shit at playing some of them. Like these guys.

>>163784307
That sounds like a shortage.
Either you don't have a supply of helium, or it's in an awkward place your transports are having difficulty getting to.

If you don't have any helium mines, find a gas giant or nebula and start mining.

If you do have some mines already, just have a look and see how far away from your port it is.
And then compare that distance to the range of your transport designs.
You want 1 design to have enough range to reach that source, don't worry about the return trip they'll limp back just fine (for now).
If the range falls short upgrade the design with more fuel tanks and they should refit and start ferrying it over. (Fuel tanks don't need helium.)

I usually use the small transport and turn it into a courier - tiny cargo bay, but huge fuel tanks.
2 or 3 cargo bays.
As close to 10 fuel tanks as your size limit will allow.
With any warp drive that isn't the stupid bubble thing you should have enough range to reach your goal.

>>163778249
Is that it's only planet?
What did it invest in otherwise?

Downloaded aurora but the text glitches on me, i have installed the dlls and everything.
Welp its not for me.

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>>163786510
More importantly, What about the other Empires in the Game? How are they doing.

I'm betting that you picked a empire that's been fucked over or has just ascended from being primitive. Looking at empires in my game at 2295 they look like they are fine to me.

Is there any mod that fixes the AI of Stellaris?

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>>163787027
I've been looking at these empires through console commands, so you can see their resources as well as the capital.

>>163778249
So stop being a shit and misleading people.

Okay, so in DW:U, I pay to build the mining stations, but the private sector pays for the upkeep, right?

>>163787027

It was the capital world of a 3 planet empire I diplovassalized. It was never not independent. Also, its insane dfficully

Dont even try to imply its normal to have unemployed pops and tile blockers on your capital that late.

>>163787175

save that for paradox forums bub, from the same game I have an awakened FE declaring war on a bordering one-planet empire and not doing anything in almost 20 years now,

>>163787354
Yes, but don't quote me on that.

What kind of weapons should I put on my ships in Stellaris? Which is the ideal ratio for different ships classes (corvette, destroyer, cruiser...)?

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>>163787395
I've haven't experienced AI being that bad at all. Here is a single planet vassal that started at 2270ish

As is observable there are parts missing on normal. If you really aren't pissing us about you have somehow managed to fuck up your game's AI.

My FE's Chew up the local galaxy just fine as well. So it's probably something to do with starting a game in 1.3 going to 1.4 or Insane AI is bugged.

>>163783854

the numbers are the url of the steam page about each mod

HOW TO INSTALL MODS

Unpack mod folder in
C:\Users\*Username*\Documents\Paradox Interactive\Stellaris\workshop\content\281990\

Unpack .mod file in
C:\Users\*Username*\Documents\Paradox Interactive\Stellaris\mod

Enable desired mods from the launcher, and click Play button.

inside each mod there is a file that opens with media player but you need to open it with notepad

they look like this

name="Increased Research Window Size"
>archive="workshop/content/281990/681894160/techwindowsize.zip"
tags={
"Graphics"
}
picture="thumb.jpg"
remote_file_id="681894160"
supported_version="1.0.*"

the part in greentext needs to lead to the folder where the files are or else it wont work even if it appears in the launcher

Jesus, putting hyperdrive on civilians ships make your game 99,99% easier.

>>163787354
>>163787803
Yes.
Mines have a failsafe as well: You can build mines even with a negative balance by selecting the planet and the pressing the build mine button.
This will allow you to recover from debt.

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Why the fuck can't I make a national park here? All 4 tiles belong to the same city, all 4 are charming/breathtaking (the tile above marble which the game recommends is 'charming (2)' too, so having (2) value is not the issue), mountains can be a part of national parks (done it before the patch and says so in the civilopedia), and it's vertical diamond.

>>163789424
>Mines have a failsafe as well: You can build mines even with a negative balance by selecting the planet and the pressing the build mine button.
This will allow you to recover from debt.
This is very good to know. Hopefully I can get these mines all queued up and spit out some colony ships.
What determines the speed at which ships are constructed?

>>163789726
The plants you have on the space port, I guess.

>>163789670
Only America can make National Parks

Just bought Civ IV, never played a Civ game before. Did I do well?

>>163789939
What are you talking about? I've built national parks with other civs in my previous games.

>>163789939
wrong

>>163789726
>What determines the speed at which ships are constructed?
Population covers the speed of 'large' builds which are built directly by the planet, like ports, supply ships, constructors and colony ships.
The more people, the faster the build.

All other ships are built by ports, and they a governed by your construction tech level.
You'll see along with the increases in the size cap, there is also an increase for construction speed. This is the only guaranteed way to speed up port construction.

The other way is having the 'Brakuras Shipyards' wonder, which gives you x3 build rate on that colony and any associated port.

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>>163782664
>Rapid breeders
>Nomadic
>Adaptive
>Deviants
>Xenophile

Dear God.....

MAXIMUM PURGE

>>163791148
What's not to like about a species that spreads quickly to other worlds, populating them swiftly, then immediately splinters into numerous factions none of which are useful for hard labor?

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>>163783854

Please respond some kind anon

>>163791897
You already got an answer, imbecile.

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>>163791719
People like you are the reason I'm a militarist xenophobe.

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>>163792246
[FIRST ORDER INTENSIFIES]

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>tfw you are 3/4th of the way to winning your first EL campaign
>tfw near eternal winter has arrived

I've been holding off on grabbing VI. Is it worth it? I didn't play V much but liked it well enough.

>>163734404
Basically trying to nail down base 4x game-play was harder than Paradox thought it would be.

Diplomacy, internal and external was pushed to latter patches and expansion sine Pdox knew they had the experience to make them the right way.

>>163792815
no

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>>163782664
>Be emerging empire.
>Plan to establish a good economy and become a renowned power.
>Find out there's another sentient race not three systems away.
>Introduce themselves as the Fitari.
>Pacifist, so shouldn't be a problem for me.
>Start expanding north.
>Right as I'm about to place an outpost I'm forced out of space.
>Fitari just colonized the system I was going to grab with that outpost.
>Fine then I'll go south.
>They beat me to the punch again.
>Fast forward 40 years.
>Boxed in from all sides by Fitari.
>Literally cannot expand anywhere because all reachable systems are under their control.
>Can't get open borders because they don't trust me enough.
>Barely any military, but big enough that I can't war them because I'm starved.
>Every nation with a sizeable force looking to take over their territory.
>Accept a Fitari migration policy in the hopes that they'll eventually like us enough to let us through.
>Fitari flood my one world faster than I can realize what's going on.
>My empire is now Fitari.
>Production plummets even further than it was.
>Next election comes up.
>All Fitari leaders with charismatic and champion of the people.
>All is not Fitari.
>Actual Fitari empire still hasn't bothered to build enough military to stave off the wild pack of hounds that is the universe.
>mfw this is how I die.

>>163788794
Used to be 1:2:3:4 big to small, current meta seems to be equal amounts of all hull sizes.

As for weapons try focus on 2, one that's good against armor, the other shields. Missiles are a good jack-of-all-trades but be sure to keep another weapon tech up to date in case the AI starts fielding Point Defense.

I have some Civ 6 questions real quick as I'm learning to play.

When you place a wonder or a district on top of a tile does that tile still produce its base food/production? What if you place the wonder/district on a special resource does it produce the special resource or do you lose it?

>>163789992
You did ok I guess, but you should have bought Endless Legend instead much deeper and always presents you with interestning things to do, like doing quests midgame to obtain heroes and gear for heroes and units.

>>163793020
why not?

>>163795293
it's shit

>>163795293
the mountains don't have wifi

>>163782664
>that species

You monster

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>>163793327
>Pacifist Ayys only three systems away
>Didn't annex them with extreme predjudice at the first opportunity

Got what you deserved.

who FANATIC MILITARIST/INDIVIDUALIST here?

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>>163797178
>Can't purge

No thanks. What happens when you all-conquering armies encounter something like this; >>163782664

Soldiers > Warriors too. Obedience is a greater martial virtue than courage.

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Got the Nomads event, they naturally picked the Holy World that's right next to the Holy Protector fallen ascendant empire. Let them take it because I'm curious to see what happens.

>>163795903
care to elaborate?

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Well. That didn't take long.

>>163792815
>>163798282
Not that guy but it's a modern Civilization game. Wait until all the DLC is out for them to "finish" it. Meanwhile Endless Legend or Age of Wonders 3 are pretty good.

>>163791897
get out

The maniacs. They even renamed "Prophet's Reteat" to some weird alien name.

>>163798132
>inb4 Holy Protectors blame you for encouraging space-storks to squat on their sacred dirt and demand your leader's head

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>>163798547
I'm in the clear, gave them a 30 year tech assistance treaty for 500 energy credits but nothing that would tie them to my empire, a week later a giant Fallen Empire fleet came by and purged them. Win Win I say.

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DIMENSIONAL HORROR

I'm scared

>>163799685
Is that portrait a mod or default?

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Finally got the resource shortages under control. Civvies now have have access to everything, so all these colony ships waiting in construction bays can get the hell on their way.
This still requires quite a bit of waiting about for deliveries, so there exist additional policies of expansion. Namely the spreading of the name of the Republic to all sentient creatures.
Two rambunctious colonies of bugs to the galactic NW, and a soon to be new addition to the tax base in the form of Talos practically directly east of the home sector.

>>163799815
mod called Humans Plus, it's not that good just a few different outfits and you can have all white humans or all females etc. too

>>163800371
Thanks.

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>>163799685
spooky horror BTFO

Finally decided to try Distant Worlds, any important newbie tips before I fuck up everything horribly?

Dang, Jafar has nomads as well.
I was hoping he only had gnolls.

Gnolls don't have a lot of advanced structure so they're more limited further into the game, while nomads have access to cathedrals and universities.

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>>163802650

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Bank in my cap increased my income by like 40.
Also discovered a new island.

Currently on housing on my two newest cities(#4 and #5) that I planted after razing one of Rjaks cities.

city #2 has alchemists guild and is producing longbowmen every other turn.

Cap is on infrastructure, going for ships and maybe merchants guild for more dosh.

City #3 is slowly producing buidlings since all of its pops are farmers atm. I purchase the rest ofthe production with gold though.

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>>163798132

>>163803306
Just want to say, godspeed. MoM is a great game.

What's your wizard look like?

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>>163803612
I went with Ariels face and name.

I think I use Rjak, Freya and Ssra the most.
I've been Rjak so much that I think this might be the first time I face him.
I think the AIs may have mistaken AI Rjak for player Rjak since they really hate him.

>>163803863
>not playing as Merlin all the time
Ariel is my second favourite though. Biased towards the humans though.

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Dispel Evil failed on demon and the demon almost killed Kazura.
Half the monster army had Missile Immunity so the longbowmen mostly tried to block off the skeletons from entering the town area.
Still one skeleton got through and killed a thousand inhabitants.
Blessed Shura and Gunther so they could fight the last skeletons off.

Should work on getting Elven Lords.

>>163804328
>Biased towards the humans though.
Ssra is good to pick for cheesy reasons.
More likely to be alone on Myrror if you pick Myrran with Ssras portrait.

So, Beyond Earth is on sale. Should I get it?

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Holy shit these guys really want some fucking boarding vessels.
No matter what I slap onto the deal their approval stays maxed.

>>163806102
No it's shite.

>start my very first game as pre warp in Distant World
>finish research for FTL
>watch my economy skyrocket as ships can now transport resources between stations near instantly
Oh wow that felt good to accomplish. Next stop new colonies.

>>163809198
Murder-o-tron.

>>163809404
The feeling of entering a new era as hyper drives become standard on civ or ships is something else. Even later hyperdrive tiers are almost their own ages.

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Not really worried about Freya.


Jafar has Sorcery and there are some really annoying spells there. Like Time Stop and Suppress magic, he's also very close to me so he's a bit of a threat.

Raven is alone on Myrror afaik, Theurgist objective means he's more likely to go for Spell of Mastery.
Currently scouting with 2 guardian spirits, they're both buffed with Endurance.

Guardian spirits are non corporeal so they only spend half a movement to move, and endurance gives them an extra move.
I think I'll planeshift them over to myrror to do scouting.

There's still a neutral orc city on ariels continent.
Interested in grabbing it and colonizing spots with lower pop potential with orcs.
Also interested in getting Dark Elves or other Myrran races in my empire. I'd stop expanding with high elves if I got my hands on them.
Unrest won't be a problem even with dark elves since I enchant my cities with Stream of Life which removes all unrest in the city.

After my war college is done in my cap I'll produce elven lords from it, when they're done I'll probably planeshift them over to Myrror to war with Raven.

>>163812716
I'd be worried if I were you.

Is slavery desirable in Stellaris or something you do to be "I'm evil"?

>>163814436
It's convenient if you don't mind being a total asshole.

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>>163814436
Basically, free droids with food upkeep.

>>163814486
t. Republican scum

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Jafar has pushed into Myrror and has access to Beastmen now as well.
I've found a neutral dark elf city that I can easily planeshift an army over to.

>>163815274
What game is this?

>>163815740
Master of Magic

>>163815814
Looks fun as fuck

>>163816090
You can grab it on GOG for like $6.

>>163816090
It's pretty fun, but a lot more complicated than it seems. It's one of these old games where you're supposed to figure stuff by yourself. Terrain yield isn't shown on screen unless you use a special map, for example.

>create pacifistic, materialistic, xeno fetishist space elves who just want to fuck each other and alien and eat grapes
>spawn in between fanatic xenophobic dictatorship and xenophobic evangelicals
>both declare war on me with 15 days of each other
>get spit roasted in two front war
Fucking Stellaris.

>>163812716
Lawful: Will react violently to a broken treaty
Expansionist: Will try to spread as much as possible, build wide.
Freya will probably not be a threat but she will be annoying since she's expansionist and has access to lizardmen so I'd expect crappy little lizardmen outposts everywhere.

>>163816445
Doesn't Stellaris always spawn you next to empires that have differents ethics than yours?

>>163816445
>turn off clustered spawns
>still spawns me right next to a fanatical purifier

>>163816352
Anywhere else for cheap? Is it really worth $6?

>>163816352
it's also on abandonia

>>163816524

True , that's why collectivist gets hard
all your neighbors will be individualistic and will form federations against you

collectivist neighbors wont necessarily like you either

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>>163816372
>It's pretty fun, but a lot more complicated than it seems.

Master of Magic: The Official Strategy Guide Paperback
Paperback: 480 pages
Publisher: Prima Games (March 22 1995)
Language: English
ISBN-10: 1559587229
ISBN-13: 978-1559587228
Product Dimensions: 3.2 x 18.4 x 23.5 cm

I actually have this thing somewhere, goes into a lot of detail about the mechanics but still surprised there's 480 pages worth of material to talk about some early 90's strategy game.

>>163816524
>>163816620
You can set it to random spawn instead of clustered spawn.

>>163816647
>but still surprised there's 480 pages worth of material to talk about some early 90's strategy game
Lords of Magic has a guide that's around 250 pages. I guess back in the 90s they just thought people were willing to do lots of reading for games like these. Or maybe it's just a trait of fantasy nerds.

is Civ 6 good yet?

>>163816793
People actually took pride in what they made, unlike with some games today where it seems half assed and you have to figure shit that should be told on your own.

>>163816840
no