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>Character Planner
https://www.mugenmonkey.com/

>DARK SOULS 3
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1u8Mak1goSv4g73g16XsWV4sJelDQUatWkP2kcO6GVAA/pub

>DARK SOULS 2
http://pastebin.com/CAx8Yc8v

>DARK SOULS
http://pastebin.com/eNY3su63

>DEMON'S SOULS
http://pastebin.com/RjpF5s7a

>BLOODBORNE
http://pastebin.com/WdLBWD8n

>Community & Fanart
http://pastebin.com/vVWz9pJm

>Old
>>163594065
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first for Yukas
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>haven't played dark souls in more than a month
>come back, first thing I see is zullie finally finished the tiny mod
Ho ho ho, guess what my next playthrough will be.
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Merry Christmas lads, hope your having a comfy day playing dark souls.
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>>163670103
>tiny mod
Does this do what I think it does?
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>>163670258
Lol didn't play Souls in 2 and a half months
I'm just here to shitpost
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Remember that DaS3 is not a bad game, it's just not as good as DaS2 or DeS.
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>>163670351
Anyone calling any souls game or bloodborne outright bad is full of shit
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>>163670449
>full of shit
Welcome to /dsg/.
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>>163670351
DaS1 > DeS >= BB > DaS3 > > > > > DaS2

>>163670449
Nah, DaS2 is a bad Souls game. Taken on its own, it is still mediocre.
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>>163670258
Thanks friend, hope you and everyone else on /dsg/ have a good day today
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>>163670521
and there comes the turd
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>>163670521
DeS>BB>DaS2>>DaS1>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>DaS3
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>>163670670
What, specifically, do you think makes DaS2 better than DaS1?
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The definitive list:

DeS ≥ BB > DaS1 > DaS3 > Ride to Hell: Retribution > DaS2
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>>163670716
>better poise system
>better BS system
>dual wielding
>better balanced weapons
>better balanced attire
>viable magic
>toned down grinding for upgrade materials thanks to ascetics
>pvp still works in cleared areas
>stamina managment
>no infinite iframes
>animation cancelling
>meaningful durability system
>checkpoints can be activated when invaded
>no infinite fogwall/disabled bonfire bug
>no queue bug
>sweetspots on weapons
>plenty fun level gimmicks like the poison statues, curse pots, dark areas
>respec in the starting area
>NG+ additions
>playable performance on all systems
>short loading times
>punishable healing
>better community
>makes Luce maaaad
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which other areas besides smouldering lake did i miss?
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>>163671086
Which areas have you been to?
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>>163670962
>better poise system
No Poise system. Two-hit system that was a terrible attempt at balancing slow weapons.
>better BS system
Game is still BSSouls
>dual wielding
I agree, actually.
>better balanced weapons
No.
>better balanced attire
No.
>viable magic
Implying it isn't wasn't viable before.
>toned down grinding for upgrade materials thanks to ascetics
"Grinding ascetics to grind mats = toned down grinding"
DaS2 player logic, everyone.
>pvp still works in cleared areas
At least some people will see this as a negative, but ok I see the appeal for FCs.
>stamina managment
If there is one thing I can credit DaS2 with, it is making managing stamina in other games easier, but I would hardly call DaS2's insanely slow stam regen a positive trait, much less a better-than-DaS trait.
>no infinite iframes
"Wahhh he roled through m,y attacks in DaS3! ;_;" Git gud.
>animation cancelling
No one liked bugs until it became one more thing to fill out a list of imaginary things DaS2 did better than DaS. I liked animation cancelling too, though
>meaningful durability system
No. DaS2's durability system, aside from being implemented wrong for months on PC, was a garbage system put in place to make the No Bonfire runs challenging. If you weren't actually doing a No Bonfire run, it was just a pain in the ass, like Homeward Bones not counting as resting at the Bonfire.
>checkpoints can be activated when invaded
Another casul thing no one would ever think to applaud DaS2 for unless they were scraping the bottom of the barrel But, again, it is a feature I happen to like..
1/2
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>>163670962
>>better poise system
You're full of shit right from the first. DaS1 is the only game in the series with a proper and functional poise system. Was it a little OP with the BS system? Sure, but that was a problem with BSes not poise.

>dual wielding
It was shit. It was semi-effective at launch but was nerfed into the dirt.

>>better balanced weapons
Lol. Nearly every weapon played exactly the same and were just straight statistical upgrades of one another.

>>viable magic
Only in the network test. It was the same shit in the release.

>toned down grinding for upgrade materials thanks to ascetics
Shit system, and was inconsistent as hell.

>>stamina managment
Yeah, standing around with your thumb up your ass waiting for your stamina to regen was so fun, amirite?

>no infinite fogwall/disabled bonfire bug
Because you never get invasions anyway. I got more invasions in BB and DaS3 than DaS2, and that is saying something.

>>sweetspots on weapons
Shit concept considering latency and such

etc.

>makes Luce maaaad
Let's be honest, you believing this is the only reason you actually defend this crap game.
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>>163670962
2/2
>no infinite fogwall/disabled bonfire bug
I experienced plenty of those.
>no queue bug
I don't even know what this is.
>sweetspots on weapons
DaS had those too.
>plenty fun level gimmicks like the poison statues, curse pots, dark areas
"Fun".
>respec in the starting area
Casul.
>NG+ additions
Manatory NG+/Ascetics for builds.
>playable performance on all systems
Clearly you never played the game on PS3.
>short loading times
Not any shorter than DaS'
>punishable healing
"Wahhh DaS3 rustled my jimmies again ;_;"
>better community
DaS2's community is the worst since the first influx of mustards in DaS.
>makes Luce maaaad
Caring about namefags.

Nah m8, you and DaS2 are both shit.
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>almost year of our lord gwyn 2017
>still haven't got lucy filtered
You brought this on yourselves.
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>>163671431
>>163671437
Nice opinions there m8s. I enjoyed DaS2 much more than the turd you prefer and there is nothing you can do about it.
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>>163671431
>>163671482
I like how majority of the rebuttals here are literally "no you're wrong cause i didnt like that"

>"Wahhh he roled through m,y attacks in DaS3! ;_;" Git gud.
>defending Ds3's zero cost busted rolls

How much does Miyazaki pay you
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>>163671437
>>163671482
>>163671431
How about YOU list what you specifically like about DaS1. I will totally not copy paste parts of your trash respones;^)
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why is killing gwynevere a sin if she's an illusion?
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>>163672130
Because removing those giant boobies from the world, illusion or not, is absolutely abhorrent
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>>163672129
Everything that wasn't blighttown or Izalith.
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>>163672130
I dunno. What's the deal with all the yukaslegion memes? Did something funny happen to him recently?
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>>163672203
>that
>yukas

>>>/reddit/
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>>163671482
>>163671431
>no
>no
>you're wrong
>git gud
>hurr ds3
>no
>no
>no you're wrong
>implying

I mean, you could also try and come up with real, actual arguments instead of shitposts
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>>163672262
Anyone with a brain knows damn well DaS2's weapons and armor is not any better balanced than any other game. Reply was already going to take two posts and it wasn't worth elaborating on.

Thanks for the free (You) though cherrypicking the couple parts of my post you didn't like, instead of responding to the rest.
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>>163672187
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3VJCDYtR9B8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emb9FSF3t08
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jdBIjCJ5QI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKNlBFqWMt0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E0oWQGJ_kvc
>being lazy
Don't expect me taking you serious until you countered all those point he makes.
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>>163672467
Don't expect my to take you seriously until you start making your own points instead of mindlessly parroting youtubers.
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>>163672564
Sure Mr. Matthewsclerosis.
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Mouse&Keyboard is the best way to play for casters, pyros, archers, and arbalests. It's also good for unlocked fighting. You can't beat the accuracy of a mouse boyyy
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>>163672393
>responding to the rest
there is literally no rest
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Have a very Merry Dark Souls Christmas, the lot of you!
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DANCER IS FOR __________!
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Any ideas or suggestions for a stealth focused build for invasions and pve? How do the various stealth items and rings work in pve?
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>>163673141
I usually move my hand to my mouse to aim great bows. I can definitely back this up for aiming at least.
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>>163673563
Celebrating Christmas with!
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>>163673563
mashing buttons
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>>163673563
FUCKING
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>>163673340
Here's to another year of childish bickering.
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>>163672203
Not really recently but he's a salty bitch in general and he's like the figurehead of all the salty bitches who get upset over "mean gestures":
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zBa1_-YOPk
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>>163674090
I BAN HIM I BAN HIM
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>>163674257
I could understand if he was hacking or something but a mean gesture?
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>>163674078
Fuck you faggot I don't childishly bicker.
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>>163674090
https://youtu.be/hLsjpFaiJCk?t=10m59s
timeless classic
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>>163669905
I just beat nito, the hyra and then the grey wolf, where the fuck am I supposed to go now?
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>>163674417
Back to your game to figure it out yourself
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>>163674417
Nito, 4kings, Bed of Chaos, Seath, then Firelink
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>>163673340
pretty!
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>>163674504
I need to do 4 kings then, do I need to speak to that guy on the roof in new londo?
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>>163674417
either continue past quelaags domain to meme ruins, go from Anor Londo to Duke's Archive or go to the New Londo and kill the 4 Kayingz. If you want to access the DLC, go to Duke's.
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>>163674627
Yes
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>>163674637
can I do 4 kangz then the dlc after? is it just the final boss after those?
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>>163674703
>is it just the final boss after those?

You can decide the order in which you want to do the Lord Soul bosses after you get the Lordvessel. In fact, you can kill 4 Kings before getting the Lordvessel actually.

But you'll have to at least go to the Duke's Archive first because the key to the DLC is found there inside the crystal golem. Then you need to go the Darkroot basin again, kill a gold golem and go from there.
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>>163674847
Cheers m8
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Is there any way to keep track of my kill count invading when it comes to working towards the ring of thorns +2 in DaS2?
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>>163670258
>he's not looking to the side
>he's looking at you
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>>163673340
is this actually in the game
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what's the best dark souls wiki
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I've never played magic playthroughs. Can anyone recommend me some decent intelligence builds that rely on spells? Any advice, especially for early game would be handy too.

I'm interested in doing every game over as a wizard, so whatever you've got for any of the games is appreciated.
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first playthrough
das 3 > das >>>> das 2

2nd playthrough and further
>das >>>> das 3 >>>> das 2
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>>163675860
Wikidot is fairly consistent and has all the basic info about pretty much everything, but often not a whole lot else.

Fextralife either has everything you want to know and more, or incomplete pages
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>>163675860
The wikidot wiki for the first Dark Souls and Demon's Souls.

Kekstralife is good if you're looking for a laugh.
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>>163675846
No, I edited the VFX of Great Magic Barrier and then set it to be applied to every NPC.
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>>163676004
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DaS2>DaS1>DaS3
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>>163676105
what's the lore on the porcine shield?
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>>163676236
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>>163676082
aw that's nice
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does ds3 also have all ng+ characters in the same multiplayer pool, and all ng players in a different multiplayer pool

also what is the agreed upon pvp sl?
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Wikidot uses male pronouns on Gwyndolin's page.

Fextralife uses female pronouns.

Which one is right?
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>>163676591
Ng cycles don't matter, only thing involved in matchmaking is soul level and maximum weapon upgrade. The ""meta"" SL is 120 unless you're that one french cunt that keeps coming to fight clubs with his SL200+ characters
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I'm not some amazing mechanical god at this game, but the allure of greatswords and ultra's make me want to play. how easy/difficult are they to use in 3? they seem very unusable in videos ive seen. i played two and had some fun, and never finished DS1, played through BB and demons souls though.
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>>163676943
>using kekstra
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>>163677051
Greatswords are really good and generally one of the most solid melee weapon choices. Ultra's require some care and positioning, but are very rewarding

Though if you're only talking about pvp, then I don't really know either way
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80th for Loo Cee Furry
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>>163676943
>there are still people claiming that Gwyndolin is trans
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is washing pole looked down upon in ds3?
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Can somebody help me with that underground pirate/viking place in D2S please?

I spent hours there yesterday, dying over and over, until I finally got a Human eff.

Im on steam
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>>163677904
no because it is weak as shit
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>>163678119
post ur char
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>>163678119
>playing chink souls at all
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>>163677904
if your only attack is running R1 then yes
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>>163678119
Vanilla or softs?
How much is your soul memery?
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>>163677904
Yes because it's a katana and anyone using a katana needs to jihad themselves

Unless your using the bloodlust
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>>163676943
wikidot
it's not even about mocking trannies, besides dressing like a girl (which his father forced him to do because muh moon), gwyndolin doesn't even consider himself female
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>>163678282
>>163678368
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Where is a good place to find people who trade? Still looking for that boltstone in DS2 PC
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>>163678472
go get the drangleic shield
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>>163678119
If you die to the pirates you need to git gud.
If you die to long armed monsters use a torch
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>>163678616
how and where
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>>163678654
>>163678654
scratch that
I have it in my inventory already


>>163678628
i am not dying to those, I die by ambushes in the tiny cabins with no room to dodge
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>>163678472
Scholar or vanilla?
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>>163677182
thanks
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>>163678740
scholar sorry
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>>163678809
Okay, I only have vanilla so soz.
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>>163678119
I struggled with that area too.

As mentioned, while you have a lit torch the long armed bleeding monsters won't attack. Pirates you just have to go slow and avoid being ganged up on.

Keep in mind you're looking for a level to ring bell in the highest houses area to summon the ship out.

I'd offer to help but am way outside your level range, and don't know how to get around it.
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who is this fello?

He never attacks me yet ive killed him countless times

>>163678873
damn thanks anyway

>>163678881
yeah I ran the bell already, I think I was almost done with the area, but then I went back to explore a little and ended up dying
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>>163678917
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>>163678472
You're that guy from yesterday who was askin what to level
good progress but god damn are you overlevelled
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>>163679046
what the fuck is this trash
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>>163678960
He is probably the nice zombie who follows you around with a torch.
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>>163679046

the end
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>>163679132
yeah its me

and everytime I get enough souls, I go level right away.

Is it bad I am overleveled?
I dont like carrying souls around because I die alot and sometimes cannot retreive my souls
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>>163679136

a nice ending to the age of fire
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>>163679356
No, it's fine. I imagine it's common on first play through. It complicates summoning and being summoned some but nothing to be concerned about.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1QQ_MxD9M0&feature=youtu.be
It works with more than just Sorcery
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>>163679457
maybe if you're 12 year old weeb then it is
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>>163679627

>Implying you wouldn't impregnate loli Gwyn
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>>163679619
literally the exact same glitch as in demon's souls and dark souls 1

from is unbelievable
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>using fextralife wiki ever
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>>163679763
literally the same engine reused
gamebryotier
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>>163673563
PONTIFF
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>>163677327
>>163678456
He has boobs though
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Which weapon in Dark Souls 1 would be good for a high INT, low STR/DEX character?
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>>163680296
MLGS was crazy good in DaS1.
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>>163679763
Didn't they fix it in DaS2?
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>>163680391
The only drawback is that I need a weapon to hold me over until after Seath.
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>>163680296
Cast speed scales with dex so just use gold tracer.
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>>163680529
Lightning/chaos claymore
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>>163680428
yes hence why i specifically did not say dark souls 2
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>>163680240
>Interviewer: Boobie Queen, Spider Princess, and *Otoko no Ko Gwyndolin each has their own covenants but why doesn't Priscilla chan have her own covenant? Boobie lover, mutant lover and otoko no ko lovers have covenants to vow to, but its wrong that we gentlemen have no place to vow
>Miyazaki: When its written this way it sounds like a date-sim game. Boobie Queen... oh Gwynevere. Spider queen and Otoko no ko... oh.
>Interviewer: (laughs)
>Miyazaki: The reason Priscilla doesn't have a covenant, well there are many. The inside story is she was initially the heroine. Now we have the fire keepers but that was her role. There was a time when she was the first heroine you meet, and it was like that for a while. And back then it wasn't about covenants but more like the fire keeper in the previous title. It was like that for a while. Then later on we couldn't make more covenants. There is a theme about big women, thats why Boobie Queen is so large. That's why Priscilla is big too. Kinda wanted to do a Big Girl Moe~. We couldn't do that though. Otoko no ko...
>Interviewer: (laughs) this is...
>Miyazaki: His voice is clearly male. I don't know why he called Otoko no Ko?
>Editor: That's what they thought of I guess...

Gwyndolin, at least from Miyazaki's perspective, is intended to be a male who has been forced into a female role.
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>>163680762
Adding sissification to the ever-growing list of fetishes that Miyazacki has put into the games.
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>>163680240
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>>163680762
He still has boobs

>>163680952
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Is worth becoming a sinner to obtain more than 3 firekeepers soul in DS1?
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>>163680903
>That Reflecting Pool
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>>163680732
Damn, it's one thing to never fix an issue, but fixing it and then discarding it is quite a feat.
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>>163681015
yes lol
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>>163681015
You can get 4 without, 6 with. But you can get 7 in NG+ anyway and +4 is fine for regular game
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>>163680985
>implying concept art is a viable source what's actually represented in the game
Do you believe that Dusk is an elf because she has pointy ears on concept art? which she doesn't have in game
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>>163680985
The ultimate irony of any SJW arguing that Gwyndolin MUST be trans is that they're saying "because this character has breasts they must be female", which flies in the face of their own rhetoric.
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>>163681158
DaS2 runs on a completely different engine than other soul games and that's why it works even on potato PCs with 60fps.
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>>163681280
Gwyndolin does have tits ingame though.
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>>163681296
He isn't trans, he's herm
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>>163681296
I never implied that he must be trans, just stating that he has boobs
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>>163681370
So they could have used a better engine as well. Holy shit.
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>>163681418
Intersex is the most you can confidently say. There's no canon depiction of Gwyndolin's genitals.
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>>163681413
has anyone cheated and tried to go to the end of that tunnel? if there is one that is
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>>163681842
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-OFYORl6Iyg
Gwyndolin just stops teleporting at the end of the hallway.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNkZSnJfTGk
Also relevant.
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>>163681552
Don't listen to lucifer. He shitposted a whole day about how gender != genitals
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gwyndolin is very cute!
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>>163682460
this we can agree on!
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>>163681552
Well he was a guy raised as a girl, which implies he has a snake down below.
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>>163682675
Which, combined with his feminine secondary sexual characteristics, would make him intersex. He's not a hermaphrodite unless he's got more than just snakes down there.
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>>163682460
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>>163682675
in a world of dragons, demons, ghosts and god, you don't think there would be a way to change that?
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>>163681536
>So they could have used a better engine as well. Holy shit.

It's arguable whether it's "better" since the lighting is absolute crap in the DS2 that we got. If we would've gotten the DS2 that was promised originally then maybe things would've been different but they gutted it.

DS1, BB and DS3 all run on a modified DeS engine.
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Anyone done a caestus run, claw run, or only bow run in DaS2 (pve)? Looking for something dumb that's still fun to do.

Or anything similar in DaS1? The most fun chars I had were a silver knight and a fatroll pyro, looking for a new idea.
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>>163683051
fist / claw weapon only is actually very doable in DaS 2
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>>163683051
Jackie Chan run. You are only allowed to kill required bosses, and only with the ladle -you don't want no trouble.
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You guys think getting Dark Souls III off the sale is worth it? Including the season pass, of course.
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>>163683587
Not really, it's pretty bad.
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>>163683587
Definitely worth it provided you have a great pc.

>>163683648
t. 1000 hours in and I hate it.
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>>163683587
Just wait for the inevitable rerelease that includes all the DLC.
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>>163683587
see
>>163683849
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>>163683849
They don't have any reason to do that on PC this game.
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If I use something to translate my gamepad inputs into keyboard inputs can I still get banned? Since it doesn't hook to the game, I assume I'd be fine but I don't know.
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>>163684143
Why would you want to do that in the first place?
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>>163683940
It's literally free money. Why wouldn't they do it when they've done it for every previous game?
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>invade a host and phantoms who are being passive turtling faggots
>fight them a bunch, do a bunch of damage to them and they hit me a few times
>run away
>they refuse to follow or progress in the level or get near any mobs
>get away and behind a tree and use the ember heal glitch
>return with full health and didn't use an estus, scrap with them again
>We do a bunch of damage to each other, when I get low I run away and heal to full again
>eventually kill them and win the war of attrition

Holy shit I hope they never patch this, this is the best counter to hosts and phantoms who are being passive faggots ever. Like sure I'll straight-up 1v3 your gank but in return I get to heal up to full every time I get to low life because you won't chase me down ever.
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>>163684350
They didn't "rerelease" any of them but DaS2, they just bundled the DLC with the game on one disc, which is really only something they "need" to do on consoles.
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>bleed-infused crow talons
>left and right eyes of the pontiff, knight slayer ring
>carthus rouge

I am now Beast Form + Beast Claws from BB, but bloodier and better.
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>>163683849
But won't that come out like a year after they release the final DLC?
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>>163684597
>ember heal glitch
que?
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>>163684285
I don't have an xbox controller (too poorfag for one rn), keyboard+mouse is horrible, and I wanna play online
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I keep upgrading the firesword i got in the fallen giants forrest

but its not getting noticeably stronger, should I get a new wep?
whats the best thing to infuse it with?
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Is Dark Souls 1 worth buying? Do people still play online?
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>>163684990
On PC, yeah. Can't say about consoles but I would doubt they're nearly as active. You do need a couple mods because the GFWL->Steamworks transition was totally botched, but the people are there. It's all in the pastebin in OP.
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>>163684597
>host gank
>unlike noob hosts we chase down invaders with bloodlusted poles/GFS and rouged avelyns
>heal in front of them with glitches they can't hope to stop
>point down as they think just hornet/combo fishing can beat glitches

It's a good life, hope they never patch it
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>>163683849
wont it be priced at 60 dollars too? why not get it now if it is same price?
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I don't get it.
Why do some bonfires require a firekeeper while others don't?
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>>163685641
the ones that have firekeepers come pre-kindled with 10 estus
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>>163684948
IIRC, the fire enchant in DaS2 makes your weapon scale off both INT and FAI. If you're not putting points into either of those, your sword will not grow any stronger in terms of scaling.

What are your stats?
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>>163685865
Yeah but some can't be used unless there's a firekeeper, yet there are bonfire with no firekeepers that you can use
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What weapon should I get in DS III and what build should I go to be reliable both in PvE and PvP? Cause ATM I'm being fucked all over the place especially in PvP, despite having some low level some nigger with Dark Sword and some high end set was parrying my attack from Sellsword twinbladed without any issues. Same when I get invaded, either enemy has some fast weapon that knock back me or slow but with long and wide range that stun/knockback me for half hour.
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>>163686302
I'm at Farros keep BTW.
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>>163686302

Carthus Curved Sword quality build.
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>>163684748

Are you healbuffing constantly or something? Sounds like a bother.
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>>163686016
>your sword will not grow any stronger in terms of scaling

well shit
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>>163686492
If you land the weapon art, you will heal for a good amount and your damage will shoot up, thanks to the Eyes of the Pontiff. Makes it feel like you're playing Bloodborne.
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>>163686578
Remove the fire enchant. The Longsword has strong STR/DEX scaling and without having split damage, you will hit a lot harder
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>>163686016
>scale
>DaS2
Yeah those 20 bonus damage points for 40-50 stat investment are sure as fuck worth it!
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Where should I go for decent invasions in DS1 at SL62? I was doing Painted World, but it sure does get boring fighting nothing but clueless idiots and clueless idiots with cheats. Is New Londo any good?
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>>163686589

I was talking about the whole
>bleed-infused
>carthus rouge
part.

Also you're forgetting the Old Wolf Curved Greatsword.
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>>163686414
First I need to reach catacombs and that ain't easy, especially with my shitty weapons like Uchigakatana and Sellsword twinblade.

ATM I can only get Pontif curved sword only.
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>>163686825

Catacombs are close. Git gud for a bit and get there.
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>>163686760
Try gank forest, the end game of DaS's PvP
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>>163686414
Is there a more boring build?
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>>163686814
oh, sorry my terminology isn't up to date. only recently came back to this game. but usually i can kill afucker before i need to buff again.

how is the OWCGS?
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>finally make it to Friede's 3rd phase using very little Estus
>die to a combo before I can even use any of it
I don't want to fight this boss anymore.
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>>163686993
Pretty hard when this location is big massive poison swamp.
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>>163687063

Anon you can't buff a Bleed-infused weapon with Carthus Rouge unless you're using the healbuffing glitch.

Also you can have the OWCGS in your off-hand or on your back, and its effects will work for your right hand weapon. It stacks with the Sulyvahn rings.
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>>163687110
Run to the left first and then follow the paths. Pretty straightforward. Don't even attack enemies.

>>163687058
No but he did say he wanted to win.
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>>163686760

Lost Izalith.
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>ds1 having sluttering on all fps, from 20 to 80
WAKE ME UP INSIDE
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>>163687475
>80FPS in DS1
madman
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>>163685237

people ask me why i use a simple infusion instead of blessed on my offhand, I just smile and say "it's for WA's, man"

HAHAHA
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>>163686760
Thanks to Miyazaki's genius decision to kill pvp in cleared areas you won't find much outside of Burg and Forest.
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>>163687541
its also sluttering with locked 30fps
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>>163687660

If you're using any overlays like the Steam overlay try disalbing them. Also try running the game in the windowed more if you're fullscreen, and fullscreen if you're windowed.
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>>163686693
More like 50 AR which get modified by 2 handing, heavy attacks, counters and instability damage. Shit adds up brah.
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just got this game for christmas

never played dark souls before

beat the first boss after my 8th try FeelsGoodMan

not sure I like the herald tho, might go back and start a pyromancer desu
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>>163687660
Are you running SLI or whatever AMD's dual GPU is called?
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>>163687827
I tried both of those things

>>163687968
No, but I do have amd. It was working normally some weeks ago. I don't really play anymore i just record stuff with cheat engine and stuff.
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>>163687961
Starting class does not matter
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>>163687924
>instability damage

Not him but I thought this didn't exist in DaS2?
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>>163687225
>look at my talons
>realized i put sharp on instead

my dumbass
well i'll try the OWCGS stacking. thanks for the tip, anon
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>>163685641
>>163686112

The special property of the Firekeeper bonfires was that you could warp to them while you couldn't warp to the others.

Also, the ones that aren't kept by firekeepers aren't burning. The Chosen Undead lights them, presumably with their humanity and sacrifice their own humanity to kindle the flame.
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>>163688087
Just fuck my teeth up, doc!
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des=das=bb=das3>das2

every game in the series is a 9 for me, whereas dark souls 2 is an 8.5
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Just started replaying Dark Souls 1 after a long time, is the any good builds revolving around the abyss greatsword?
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>>163689590
It's really only good for twinking because of how badly it scales, it has great damage around level 60 or so
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>>163689590

27/40 quality with base INT/FTH for it (18?).
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So I managed to delete my Dark Souls:Prepare to Die Edition save file today. Is there any save editor etc that works?

I was at Anor Londo, and I have the Steam edition.

SL 50, and I play offline also.
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>>163689309
des=bb>ds1>ds3>ds2
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>>163690417
Just use cheat engine to get your level/equipment back and open up the anor londo bonfire.
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>>163688374
If you're gonna use bleed you might as well infuse with Hollow to get the +5 or +10 Luck.
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>>163690491
>des=bb
That's an insult to BB.
BB is the best of DeS / DaS 1 in terms of mechanics, but DeS today is a clunky and floaty piece of ass.
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>>163690881
>DeS today is a clunky and floaty piece of ass.
delet this

have you even played des?
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>>163691047
have you? das1 and des may be good games but they have not aged well
take the tower of latria skip for example, it looks so janky and it highlights the weird physics
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Anyone want help ? I'm bored and don't know what to do.
I was supposed to play some other games tonight with my new graphic card but it turns out I won't install it before tomorrow
PC
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>>163691260
help with what scrub
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>>163691130
>take the tower of latria skip for example
that's a fucking bug dude
des looks like it have low gravity, yes, but that's it,doesn't make the game bad, ds1 and 2 were much slower, sluggish and clunky than des.
Also you are a fucking soul without a body for most of the time in des so the low gravity kinda makes sense.
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>>163691260
>>163691319
DaS3, forgot to specify
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>>163691434

Ok. Help in DS3 with what scrub?
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How do I enjoy DeS after countless of hours on DaS3 ?
It feels slow as shit, but I see why it is a good game. This slow speed bothers me more than I'd have though.
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>>163691514
Anything, I'm offering my help
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>>163691541
just fast roll?
ds3 is just too fast, it doesn't fit with the souls games. des is faster than ds1 and 2.
>>
Whats more important on a poison build, luck or str/dex?
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>>163691654
I'll remember that
I'm going to start a new playthrough, I'll be a light weight

What stats to upgrade first ?
>>
So the mace is pretty good, eh?
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>>163691925
dude fluted set is the best set ever, use at least the helmet pham
There's a ring that's like havel ring in demon's souls, that can be obtained on 1-1 under 2 dragons, it's tricky to get though, but you should try.
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>>163692032
>r1 spaming a fatrolling guy

At least post against something who tries fighting it
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>>163692032
>Mindless r1 spam combined with poisestacking
Almost as bad as carthus shitters honestly.
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>>163692156
hey... sometimes investing in END pays off. lol
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>>163692152
Thanks for the tips
How to get that set ?
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>>163692152
>>163692351
Nvm just noticed it is a starting set
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>>163692227
Thank you, first time using the mace. Everything small than a greatsword I poise through and everything at the same level or greater I outspeed, I feel like an unstoppable monster with this thing especially when using perseverance.

I think the mace is better than the warpick because perseverance is insane and strike damage is crazy. That's usually the one people lack most of the time, and you destroy shields ez.
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What's a DS3 build no one bitches about?
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>>163683051
I've done both bow and fist (no caestus/vanquisher's seal) and it's doable and pretty fun. i think fists are more fun, though. Bow turns into just pressing r1 for several hundred times for each boss towards the end, which is tiresome, but the challenge of the main level is nice. go for it. just don't forget your Gyrm Warrior hot pants, no Punchem McFisticuffs is complete without them
>>
DaS > BB > DeS > DaS3 >>>> DaS2
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i got invaded for the first time

he looked too strong to fight so i tried to run but he cornered me and threw me off a cliff

how do I make it so i dont get invaded?
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>>163692736
70 VIT.
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>>163692736
greataxe with offhand miracles
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>>163693142
>das2babies
lmao
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>>163692152
Why does DeS look so much better than the other games? Is it the color palette?
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>>163693142
>looked too strong
lol
cornered me and threw me off a cliff
deserved it
>how do I make it so i dont get invaded?
burn an effigy
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>>163693267
>>163693142
Also, stop holding your shield up like a retard. He can't hit you from there.
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>>163693142
Burn an effigy at the bonfire.
>>163693194
>dasdreck
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Since there are no FCs, anyone want to help me rush through NG++? Currently at Farron Keep. Still need to put out the flames. I basically just want all locations unlocked.
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DeS=BB>>DaS2>>>>>DaS1>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>DaS3
What the fuck happened and why are you rusing me. The Dark Souls series is garbo.
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>>163693392
PS4?
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Why did I pick Temple Knight as a starting class, whywhywhywhy
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>>163693238
I don't know
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>>163693392
>>163693587

Always forget. PC.
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>>163693313
>He can't hit you from there.
what is latency
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>>163693518
>DaS2>>>>>DaS1
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>>163693518
>DaS2>anything
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>>163693730
>>163693731
And there they are. The fuck is wrong with you?
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>>163693630
okay.jpg
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>>163693731
I preferred the PVP and combat mechanics reeeeeeeee
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>>163693669
>let me give you a rare example when it's still not worth doing it
>>
>dress in full scrublord gear for low level invasions (full fallen knight set, dark sword, grass crest shield)
>people think I'm a shitty newbie who will just r1 spam all day
>I'm actually really good at the game
>destroy everyone

Anyone else ever do this? Or just me? I thought this would be the most "obviously first playthrough of the game" than this setup.
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>>163694242
>dark sword
>destroy everyone
>really good at the game
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>>163693923
Spotted the delusional scrub.
With full stamina you have no reason not to block.
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>>163694475

I mean I don't just R1 spam people like most people expect from such a setup. Like, the kind of R1 spam that gets you parried.
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>>163694242
Add carthus flame arc, that's a huge noob tell as well
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>>163694762

Thanks for the suggestion, I'll look into that.
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>>163694625
1. You look retarded
2. You look like a noob
3. Probably ARE a noob
4. Kick
5. Can still backstab you
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>>163694895
steal his embers
no one will ever know
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>>163694705
You're still using a crutch. Why do people here always have to use minmaxing and meta weapons to kill "scrubs"?
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What are the ramifications of joining and not joining?
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>>163694895
>1. You look retarded
>2. You look like a noob
Guess you do ravioli steps to show them how kewl you are. I have several thousand hours in these games and playing good leads to wins, playing fancy will get you killed by me.
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>>163695229
Yes
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>>163695229
join:still get invaded by other bells, nothing changes
not join:miss out on some bad armor and spells
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>>163695254
>I have several thousand hours in these games
And you still can't block only when you need to to increase stamina regen and not look retarded
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>>163695254
>several thousand

Right. And you hold up your shield as you slowly walk towards them right?>
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>>163695417
*teleports behind you while holding up a shield*
psssh... nothing personell... kid
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>>163695417
I even spam R1 as long as it's save. It's to make the opponent react with predictable counters.
U mad?
>>
Anons, just so you know, you can use excessive shielding for mindgames.
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>>163695530
more like
*teleports behind you while holding up shield*
*waits 20 minutes for stamina to regenerate from teleporting*
*still holding up shield*
*gets hit by a tooth pick once*
*riposte AND DIES*

"NO FAIR I HAD MY SHIELD UP FUCKING HACKERS FROM PLEASE BAN THEM"

>>163695868
>several thousand hours
Riiiggghhhttt... And my uncle works at steam and verified that you are wrong
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>>163695905
B-but you don't look cool!
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>>163691047
DeS gameplay and especially the movement is a janky pile of garbage. It feels better than DaS2 but compared to actually good games pretty bad. the levels are good, and the atmosphere is decent, but the bosses are the worst in the series considering that even the better DS2 bosses blow them out of the water with the exception of false Allant and Maneaters.
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>>163696116
That's why you 2hand. Someone holding up a shield immediately makes them look like some turtling faggot, but no one cares if you hold up a weapon.
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>>163696097
>steam
Good players play on console. Explains how you're so bad.
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>>163696161
DeS doesn't have this big of bad bosses. Some are very bad like Dragon God, which are in every game, but the others are okay and fun
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>>163696296
Actually I lied, my uncle works at facebook and said that you had a picture of you playing on PC so that is probably why you are so bad.
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>>163696320
Yeah, but it doesn't have whole lot of gameplaywise engaging or challenging bosses.

Allant / Penetrator(if you solo) / Maneaters / Flamelurker are the good bosses.
>>
GUYS TURTLING MAKES YOU LOOK UNCOOL!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6jKj_3Zs9E
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>>163696723
My dad's best friend works at oculus and says that he saw you not turtling.

You're argument is false
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PLEASE
HELP ME

EUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUURRRRRRRRGGGGGGHHHHHHHHH
>>
Can i play 3 without playing 2?
>>
>>163696723
>"I'll show you a video of a turtle against a complete retard that gets backstabbed 20 times in a row! That will show them how cool turtling is!"
>thinking that even if this was a good player that it would look 'cool'

kill yourself
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>>163696907
You should.
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>>163696723
enisle isn't cool though
>>
>>163696640
>challenging bosses

There are better games for this really. DeS's bosses are interesting takes to how you approach them and there are few good gimmick bosses in the series not in the game. Fool's idol, Storm King or Tower knight are good but easy bosses or instance.
>>
what the fuck is with the graphics in ds1 and ds2? was that seriously the full power of last gen consoles? jesus christ, if you run the games in 480p it literally looks like an early ps2 games. even some ps2 games had better graphics at that res. holy FUCK.
>>
>>163696723

Enisle is a Legend.
>>
I'm using the great sword you get from beating the giant ass tree in DS3.Z I'm about to take on the Abyss Knight or w/e. Is there a better great sword I should be using? Also I'm using the fallen knight armor
>>
>>163697543
t. enisle

(You)
>>
>>163697562
>Also I'm using the fallen knight armor

lmao why does literally every noob wear this armor as soon as they "find" it
>>
>finally have steam money to get 2 and 3
>threads are already well past them
>/vg/ archives are all shit and dont work
>tfw will never live enjoying the games for the first time with the rest of the thread
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>>163696818
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>163697685
I dunno looks cool
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>>163697562
Homoslayer is probably the best Greatsword for PvE.
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I love the Dark Sword !
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>>163698283
You like your balls hairy i see
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>>163698338
Untrue, my sack is huge and hairy yet I prefer the Lothric SS

Dark sword is close to my heart though
>>
>>163698426
i'm talking about the balls you lick lol
>>
>>163698283
>invade in cleansing chapel yesterday
>see dark sword user host
>backstab his sunbro, he starts spamming me
>swings that shit what looks like 9 times into the animation

are these actual retards looking up strategy guides how to get a "good weapon"? why are all dark sword users literally idiots? who told them to level that much stamina?
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>tfw sotfs of the first sin is LITERALLY IMPOSSIBLE
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So I want to play Dark Souls 1, but I'm afraid I'm too spoiled on the game. In terms of story all I know are some details about Gwendoline, but it's gameplay spoilers I'm worried about.

Basically, I've been told the following:
>All the games besides Bloodbourne practically scream at you to play defensively, and that's why so many people think the games are hard, unfair, or just not fun. It's the worst possibly way to play.
>Playing aggressively and taking risks is the fastest and easiest way to git gud and actually start having fun with Souls games
>shields and magic are for wusses and the most boring humans on Earth. Don't even THINK about using them.[/spoiler.]

Is there a point in playing any Souls games if I already know this up front, or will I just not really have the proper experience?
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>>163698660
AHAHAHHAHH
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>>163697719
The threads were full of crying and autism. You missed nothing of value. Just be here for the next release.

desu I love the mindless hype for the games right before the disappointment
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FC where
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>>163698678
yes you sweaty fart, it's still worth playing and fun, just don't look more shit up.
except i will give you a great protip to make the game easy mode, just pick bandit and 2hand the starter axe, good job the game isn't anywhere near hard as every gaming website journalist shithole tells you
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So... mace is pretty good, huh?

d-does this count as them fighting back this time?
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>>163696640
harder=/=better
faggot
unique boss>>>>random hard big dude with a big weapon
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>first time playing DS3
>decide to farm all the covenant items before NG+
>realize I don't have the Symbol of Avarice
>go back and check if I've killed all the mimics
>I have

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
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item tables WHERE
i gotta recreate my characters from my old HD

>>163698864
nein
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>>163669905
Are they seriously charging 15 bucks for a 40 minute DLC?
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>>163698660
>sotfs of the first sin
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>>163698973
go down below lothric castle dragon mimic and it should be there

or just gimme the item tables and you can have 20
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>>163698979
>>163699093
stop cheating faggot
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>>163699079

Softs of the First Sin.
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>>163698660
DO YOU RIKE IT, YOUNG HORROW?
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>>163698958
Also, des levels were way harder than das levels. The souls series aren't all just about the bosses. In dark souls games, the levels are easy, and the bosses hard, in demon's souls it's the other way around.
Also, there are bonfires each 15 minutes in dark souls 1 and each 2 minutes in ds2/3.
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>>163670351
It still warms my heart that someone took it upon them selves to start reposting this on every thread.

You're doing god's work.
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>>163670449
I don't think the point was calling those games bad, just saying that the company doesn't pander to people's personal tastes. They will always put out games that half the fans hate and half the fans like, regardless of quality.
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I like DS3 more than DS so far
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>>163699630
everything is shit
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>>163699132
too late faggot i found it myself
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>Super best shitposters are doing a DS1 lp
>on PC
o bby
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>>163698678
If you've been told that there's only one way to enjoy souls games, you've been listening to some tryhard fag who's trying to force you into some retarded "git gud casul"-playstyle.

Defensive / reactive playstyles can be fun, especially since when you play a game for the first time you don't have any clue about the areas, where you can go fast and where you need to take it slow. Most the mlgprocheetostrat guys who go in naked and beat bosses to death with fists only usually take their first runs slowly and then after they've become comfortable with that playstyle, take off their armor and flip everywhere naked.

People recommending newfags to play the "right way" the first time they play the souls games are just producing the kind of people who will have a shit time with the game and then cry about the games being "unfair".

Take Lobosjr for example. When he's doing his "slow runs" into NG+7 and he isn't using his information about the game running past every fucking enemy into the boss fog, even he occasionally gets reked by enemies.

Tell your friend to go fuck himself and make decisions for yourself on how you want to play the game.
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>>163697471
The question is: why would you run a game at 480p on PC ?
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>mfw I grinded 6k to buy Claymore and it drops right away from the next blueeyed faggot
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>>163698958
>>163699414
>"h-harder = better amirite g-guise?"
>goes in the next post to brag about how DeS levels are hard
Lmao.
If you've got health problems in DeS I feel bad for you son, I've got 99 healing grasses but with this insane regen I didn't need a single one.
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Can someone explain the stupid shit majority of all players of DS1 did to make it """hard"""?

If you 2hand the bandit starter weapon you oneshot every single enemy all the way to undead parish. Armor is fucking worthless early on and just by testing removing it anyone with half a brain would notice how much faster and further they roll. And bosses melt from the bandit starter weapon even without any upgrades.

Less than an hour of playing you learn to lock onto bosses and just circling around them to avoid absolutely all attacks, very few bosses had attacks that countered this.

It's on the same difficulty as child friendly adventure playstation 2 games.

Did everyone just accidentally pick the worst class and play the worst way somehow? what the fuck is the chance for that.
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>>163672393
>any true Scotsman knows DS2 is shit
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DeS: Crescent Falchion
DaS: Enchanted Falchion
DaS2: Enchanted Falchion
DaS3: ???
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>>163700310
I didn't said that the levels of des were better for being harder, autist
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>>163700342
Not everyone picked Bandit and became an unhittable pro on their first playthrough.
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>>163700310
What good are 99 grass and regen when mobs wombo combo you?
DaS1 was designed around 10 estus and becomes a joke with infinitely farmable humanity.
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>>163700342
People don't understand that punishing =/= hard.
But you also don't know what it's like to not have played these games before and being used to action games with better responsiveness. In Souls games attacks require you to commit to them, and there's momentum in your attacks, so combined with narrow ledges, it can easily lead to a lot of deaths.

>Armor is fucking worthless early on and just by testing removing it anyone with half a brain would notice how much faster and further they roll

You're doing all your testing from the perspective of someone who knows the levels inside out and how many map units you travel with a roll, not from the perspective of someone who doesn't know which direction doesn't lead to INSTANT DEATH NOTHING I COULD DO.

>and just circling around them to avoid absolutely all attacks

Either you played Dark Souls 2 or don't know this approach flat out doesn't work on a lot of bosses or said bosses have wonky hitboxes.

You can't really prepare for some stuff in Souls, you just have to learn it the hard way.

"Haha, stupid noob, he didn't know that the player's hitbox lags behind him as he's dodging the Pursuer's stab lmao!"
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>>163698864
First guy who complained, I liked this one, good job anon.

What's your poise anyway? You're not even using wolf
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>>163700828
Which mobs wombo combo you again?
DeS mobs have often the exact same movements as their DaS equivalents.

>>163700593
>>163699414
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Anyone that wants to reupload the ds2 complete artwork? Pastebin link is dead
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>>163701098
almost all enemies, the worst are the dogs
there is no poise in des.
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>>163701187
>dogs
Literally in one level

>almost all enemies
We're not talking about the same game clearly

the blue eyed knights for example do the same thing as the black knights, they give you plenty of opportunities to backstab them.
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>>163701153

https://mega.nz/#!GFMCVBCK!xbszjII1Xd6hEqLeAOiEBYlwKgzrsQyJIFb4lLfcXX0
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>>163701098
All because there is no poise. 4-1 was pretty good at this. In DaS1 you can just start healing while getting attacked or just run through everything.
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>>163698998
You'll get more than an hour out of the arena alone.
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>>163675908
Did you do NG+ or the DLC for DS2?

It probably has the worst single player, but it does make up for it with the post-game content and PvP. I tend to care more about that then the first playthrough anyway, but I agree that just the vanilla single player game of DS2 is the weakest part.
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How high does faith need to be for miracles to be useful in DS1?
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>>163701768
Only if you like dueling forever. The only thing that was unique to the arena, 6 man FFAs, died out after the initial week of release. Now the arena is just a locus of faggotry.
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>>163702446
Depends on your talisman. You use very specific talismans for very specific amounts of faith
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>>163702546
Duels are the only thing that matters, Test your might.
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>>163702546
It's still content.

>>163698998
People who say this probably watched some faggot stream it before playing it themselves and knew immediately where to go lol.
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someone start an fc
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>>163702578
Weird. I went pyro so my faith is still 8. I probably won't really fuck with it with this character but figured I'd ask. Can you explain this though?
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>>163702613
Fuck you, now I've got the Mortal Kombat theme playing in my head.
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>>163702268
DLC alone can't save DS2 because 90% of the game is still fucked and DLC are overrated as fuck too.
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>>163697685
It's literally sitting in your path and you don't start with many sets. Why wouldn't they pick it up?
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>>163701768
There were already 2 arenas with 3 maps each in vanilla Dark Souls 2, having an arena doesn't justify the shitty DLC.
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>>163670521
das2 is not a bad souls game is just a bad game.
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>>163702805
>DLC are overrated as fuck too
this
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>>163702805
vanilla ds2 had less bs than the dlcs.
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>>163702789
Mission accomplished.

>>163702861
But DaS2 sucked, especially the PvP.
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>>163702613
Implying cut-and-dry duels test anything but ones patience. Dancing around doing nothing until my opponent takes a swing is braindead simple.

6 man FFAs, however, test your ability to take on several enemies at once, and fights actually occur. You fight a wide variety of strategies and tactics because it's not dominated by the meta. It feels hectic, and winning feels good.

Not that you'd know anything about winning or having fun, Lucy.
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>>163702710
Different talismans in DS1 have varying amounts of base spell adjustment compared to spell adjustment scaling

Basically, Talisman A has a spell casting rating of 130, but has barely any scaling, so at 50 faith it gains 5

Talisman B has a base spell casting rating of 90, but has gigantic scaling, so at 50 faith it gains 60 more. BUT if your faith is 25, you only gain 30, so it's weaker than Talisman A

Talisman B is way stronger, but ONLY if you have high faith. If you're below a certain amount of faith, Talisman A is stronger.
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>>163703296
Ah, this makes good sense. Thanks.
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>>163703207
I win all the time and have fun doing it. What's more, I don't need 5 other people to carry my ass to victory.
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>>163703334
There are several talismans in that linear 'path' of scaling, so you'd want to use the wikidot to find the one best for whatever faith you go for. Faith is super fucking good in DaS1 though, especially for PvE, so feel free to make a faith build
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>>163703518
>>163703334
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>>163697719
You've missed nothing. /dsg/ is now about how much DaS2 sucks, when DaS3 was new, it was all about how much better DaS2 was than DaS3.

Welcome to 4chan
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>>163671086
archdragon peak maybe?
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>>163678960
There are torch zombies that drop you torches for use around the game's dark areas.
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>>163703372
>I don't need 5 other people to carry my ass to victory
>FFA

Apparently you need someone to help you read.
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>>163697719
>>163703667

>DaS1 releases
>lmao DeS was the best DaS sucks
>DaS2 releases
>lmao DaS1 was the best DaS2 sucks
>Bloodborne releases
>crickets chirping because /bbg/ split from /dsg/
>DaS3 releases
>lmao DaS2 was the best DaS3 sucks

The short history of /dsg/
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>>163679356
You're doing fine. The only reason you're overleveled is because you don't really have a central focus of your build yet, so you've got a lot of stats in many different areas.

Your weapon upgrade level, spells, and armor matter more than your level, though.
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>>163703934
I have seen how these things go. It is usually a rape train, which the first person to make a move losing. They get raped then the person that got them gets it from behind and so on. Hell there are plenty gifs/webms of just that that get posted in these threads all the time.
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>>163678574
Still looking, no recommendations?
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>>163704079
other than
>lmao DaS2 was the best DaS3 sucks
they were right though
the only people that say that are pvp autists and people that had ds2 as their first souls games
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>>163704079
final edit of that image that was made
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>>163704079
Not really. When DaS1 released, people were hype as fuck. DaS2 really was bad. BB was so good it had to split because of all the anal pain it caused Mustards. BB is still better than DaS2 or 3 and is possibly on par with DeS after all the patches and the DLC.

DaS1 > DeS >= BB > DaS3 > > > > > DaS2.
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>>163704714
>ds2 was bad

Why?
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This place could've been like Shulva, if not better.
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>>163704714
I think Bloodborne is the best of all of them tbqh, but it was also my first, so I'm sure that has something to do with it.
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>>163704737
The blatant lies for one.
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>>163704397
I see now that you're truly a veteran of the arena after watching a few gifs and webms. Indeed, it would be most shameful to talk out of your ass, and certainly you don't have a reputation for doing just that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZb7uL8ddBw

:)
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>>163704737
ds2 sotfs is good, but day one ds2 was garbage
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>>163704498
If people set the baseline of expectation in DaS2 and judge the others based on that their opinion is as correct as that of another guy who started with DeS / DaS 1 or BB. I know people who started with BB yet liked DaS 2 a ton.

>>163704546
Ahh, /dsg/ classics
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Yhorm's shouldn't be parryable.
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>>163704758
Yeah, it felt kind of unfinished.
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>>163704798
Yeah, I can see that. I played them all in release order.
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>>163679763
>>163679995
All Dark Souls games use Havok for physics but not for graphics or gameplay.

It is VERY likely that BB and DS3 use Phrye engine for gameplay, and it's VERY likely that DS1 and DS2 use whatever Armored Core V's engine was. But I've never been able to confirm anything.
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>>163704801
Gameplay wise.

We should not care about the developers lying about what the game should be but what the game actually is.

It's like complaining that an orange isn't an apple.
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It's my 14th character and I still can't rush through the areas, I end up picking all the weapons and stuff I don't need for this run. At least I'm finally getting closer to the silver knights, then I'll finally be able to hide this guy's face.
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>>163680327
Even all the bad information aside, Fextralife also just has a shit UI.
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>>163704737
As someone who just started Dark Souls this year, going from 1 to 2 is a bit odd. They changed a bit of fundamental stuff that makes the early game a bit harder for no reason.
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>>163704864
>I know people who started with BB yet liked DaS 2 a ton.
i'm pretty sure most of them didn't
ds2 have nothing to do with BB.
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>>163704714
Bloodborne was good, but after two vanilla playthroughs plus one additional playthrough for a new character for the DLC I was tired of it, and the PvP sucked really hard, worst Souls PvP by far. Dark Souls 3, with its linearity and PvP flaws and all, lasted me for 6 playthroughs and I'm still playing its PvP to this day. Dark Souls 2 lasted me for 9 playthroughs and I played 2000 hours of it because of its PvP.
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>>163680327
>rude gestures

there are rude gestures in any of the games? what
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>>163704864
Requesting DaS 2 pre patch abusers of broken shit getting btfo
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>>163684948
You're fighting enemies in water. Water increases fire defense, drops damage by about 20%.

Swap to something else when it's raining/wet/walking in water.
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>>163704868
It isn't if you're not a cancerous off hand GA faggot
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FC in Nameless King arena when?
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>>163705029
It's running on a different engine.

It's more slippery movement and feels slower, but I want to know what is actually BAD about the game.

I've never actually seen someone say something that wasn't along the lines of:
>It's slower
>Slide movement
>Soul memory (I will give this a free pass for anyone, this was super fucking retarded and gay)
>Developers lied
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>>163704714
>possibly on par with DeS
It's much better

>>163705098
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>>163701028

idk like around 30 or so? Pretty sure the poise value for swing through medium weapon is 26, but I like this for fashion and damage absorption min/maxing to offset the prisoner's chain.

Still, you can perseverance though a fucking ultra weapon and win the trade, shit's crazy with simple infusion involved. You can use it so many times with even just base ATT for a knight, 2 whole mana bars to kill at least 1 phantom is a ton.

It's like a better black knight sword, because a BKS user almost certainly doesn't have enough poise to get through a 2H hammer blow, and I attack faster. You just run up, perseverance and chew through everyone. Perseverance also gives a huge boost to damage absorption so you take so little damage from hits.
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>>163684948
Lightning will do extra damage to enemies in water. If you need to get through No Man's Wharf (and Sinner's Rise, later) lightning is VERY useful.
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>>163704714
you are retarded and your opinion is garbage. DeS was shit and nobody liked or even played it. all success is from DS1 which was actually good.
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>>163704930
>I end up picking all the weapons and stuff I don't need for this run.
Same here senpai
On each of my chars I go to at least NG+3, and I pick up everything. I can't stand letting items laying somewhere else than in my inventory.

>tfw my NG+11 char's storage is full
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>>163704913
>We should not care about the developers lying about what the game should be but what the game actually is.

WRONG! They said game would be "x," so the game deserves to be judged based on "x." It is perfectly fine to complain what an orange is not an apple when you were promised and paid for an apple.

>>163705057
Nah, the Gems were unneeded, but it has some of the best PvP. Being able to parries heal alone was a game changer.

DaS1 gave me the most play throughs followed by BB.

I only completed DaS2 2. Once in vanilla and once in SotFS.

>>163705315
I don't know. The atmosphere in DeS was God Tier, and the world tendency changes blew the shit with insight out of the water.

>>163705396
KEK
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>>163686112
>>163685641
>>163688583

You're the firekeeper for all the other ones.
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>>163705434
filtered.
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>>163704913
>Gameplay wise.
it sucked, floaty shitty animations that feel awful, ADP, AGL, broken hitboxes, awful pvp latency(that was only fixed like 1 year after the release of the game) and the game is also way slower(or at least feel way slower) and more clunky than ds1.
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>>163690417
Just play again. You can get back to SL50 Anor Londo in ~5-10 hours.

If you can't get back there that fast, then you should replay anyway to get better.
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>>163705471
But firekeepers shall never meet
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>>163705273

Nothing cancerous about off-hand friend.
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OnlyAfro really hates us huh
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>>163693669
'latency'

what is lag

which DS2 has far less of than DS1 did. Still there, but only if you turn off region lock.
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>>163705615
What did he do now? I really like him

And he's a qt trap
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>>163705615
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>>163705428
I've only gone as far as NG+4 one my main character since I always want to do the Yoel part and I don't wanna go past SL120.
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>>163705571
>hitboxes
This was the worst. Most of the time, you were better off waddling out of the way of attacks instead of rolling, since rolling just made you easier to hit.

Plus the game was so dumbed down that you could literally drive every enemy in the level to extinction so that you could just casually stroll to the boss unmolested.

That's before you even get into the massively gamebreaking shit like parry stepping.
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>>163705434
WRONG.

I asked you what is wrong with the game currently as it is. You are complaining that an orange is not an apple. I don't want to know about how bad of an apple the orange is, I want to know how the orange tastes.

>>163705571
This person at least gave some actual examples. He knows why he doesn't like the game.

You shitpost on the other hand without any actual opinion besides "it's not what I thought it was going to be!"
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>>163705434
>WRONG! They said game would be "x," so the game deserves to be judged based on "x."

This is like seeing a sign that says "Apple", seeing a picture of an apple, asking your waiter what it is and they say "orange", then ordering it and being mad that you end up with an apple, even though the apple was totally worth the price anyway.

You're fucking dumb, petty, and ignorant. Learn to live with that fact.
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>>163678960
You should never kill the poor torch bearers.
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>>163705313
>>Soul memory (I will give this a free pass for anyone, this was super fucking retarded and gay)
This and max health loss is rubbish.
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>>163705949
You should ALWAYS kill the torch bearers, so you can get the torch drops.
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>>163705305
start it
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How active is DS2 on PS4 ?
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>>163680762
>Dark Souls was almost based around best size difference girl but was taken away at the last second.

Fuck.
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how do I save gwyndolin from the blob
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>>163705945
No, it is like a sign says it is an apple the menu says it is an apple, the waiter tells you it is an apple, the other customers are legally bound to not tell you the truth, then when they bring it to the table it is an orange.

Because that is exactly what happened with DaS2.
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>>163705807
You could do a PvE only char and go beyond NG+4, but that's only if you like doing the same thing over and over again, which gets boring after some time.
It started to bore me after 1000 hours
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>>163680240
doesn't means that he did surgery to get boobs or took hormones, neither of that existed.
and i also have boobs and i'm not trans
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>>163706094
Good.
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WAKE ME UP INSIDE

I cannot beat the Lost Sinnner, died for an hour now.

I bought out all the human eff's so I can't get help, and I dont have a torch to light the room

what do?
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>>163706134
YOU DON'T
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>>163681842
you just have to walk for 10 minutes and you reach the end of the tunne.

>>163682675
but also implies that he doesn't have a vagina, otherwise it would be mentioned.
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>>163706072
Surprisingly, I can still get instant duels at the BoB arena, but the other PvP hotspot, the Iron Keep bridge is pretty dead for me.
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>>163706265
I mean, I thought I'd get bored after my 3rd or 4th character, but I'm already at my 14th after my cosplay builds and enemy builds and I'm still not bored, so I guess I could try.
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>>163680762
someone have a sauce to this interview?
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>>163705696
None of the pictures you've seen of Afro are likely to be real.

>>163706307
Smough pls go, mantits are another thing entirely.
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>>163706250
Actually, if you know anything about game development, it would go like this.

Picture of apple cake, chef says he should be able to make an apple cake, waiter offers free samples to people in small doses, people like the samples, they expect a perfect apple cake with frosting, icing, 3 different apple flavors, candles, and a blowjob, chef says that they can't make a perfect apple cake that they wanted because their oven (ie consoles) can't bake them properly and it only worked because they were cooking such small amounts (ie demos). The customer is informed (alpha and beta), but still wants the apple cake. The cake cannot be made as they wanted so they have to cut out the icing, frosting, and some layers.

Then they try to make a good apple cake, but not a perfect one as they had initially planned.

That's what DS2 was. An apple cake that couldn't be cooked fully so they had to remove parts of the cake so they could get a cake to the customer.
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>>163706479
Go for it then!
And fear the dogs in NG+7
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so with the tens of millions dollars they made with ds3, could they be creating an absolutely masterpiece right now?
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>>163706545

http://soulslore.wikidot.com/das1-game-no-shokutaku
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>>163706615
The network tests were still on the old system, and that was what was promised to the consumer all the way up until after launch. Everyone that played the actual game was under a NDA to NOT share information about the actual state of the game before launch.
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>>163706554
>None of the pictures you've seen of Afro are likely to be real.
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>>163706730
Of course they could, but they sure won't
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>>163706554
No they aren't, tits are caused by female hormones and not just by being fat, both males and females have both male and female hormones, and gwyndolin is clearly androgynous, and it would be not really surprising at all if he had more estrogen than normal, this can be natural, because of gay moon magic or because of his diet.
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>>163706841
Actually, it was found they had to downgrade it in the beta.
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>>163706382
What's your problem? Are you trying to commit too much to doing a lot of damage at a time?

Also, your shield is a weakness. Sinner will fug you up if you try to shieldtank him. Two-hand that bad boy and run around the room without lock-on. When he goes for a leaping attack, dodge and punish that.
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>>163706554
>imblying
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99% of complains about DS2:

>DS1 Fan: "They added something different that, as a longtime player, I don't like!"
>From: "Yes, but this is for new players, to teach them how to play the game more gradually."
>DS1 Fan: "BUT I DON'T LIKE IT"
>From: "That's why we added these items so you don't have to deal with it." They point at Ring of Binding, Agape Ring, Name Engraved Ring, Red Sign Soapstone, Fragrant Branch of Yore, Lifegems, Torches, Estus Flask Shards
>DS1 Fan: "THAT DOESN'T COUNT I DON'T LIKE USING THOSE THINGS"
>From: "Then don't buy the game."
>DS1 Fan: "YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO MAKE GAMES *I* LIKE"
>From: "No, we make games that people like."
>DS1: Fan *foaming at the mouth*

The other 1%:

>DS1 Fan: "YOU LIED YOU SAID IT WOULD LOOK LIKE THIS"
>From: "That was 2 years ago. Shit happens. Bloodborne. Miyazaki. Sorry. It's still a 9/10 game though, right?"
>DS1 Fan: "NO I WANT A REFUND IT'S 1/10 BECAUSE YOU LIED"

>Watch dogs, No Man Sky, Witcher 3, Fallout 4, Skyrim, Alien: Isolation, Aliens: Colonial Marines, Forza 5, Project Cars, Bioshock Infinite, Killzone 2, Far Cry 4, Far Cry 3, Metal Gear Solid 5, Metal Gear Solid 4, Metal Gear Solid 2 (holy shit metal gear solid 2), Final Fantasy XIII, Halo 2, Halo 5, Halo Reach, Destiny, Mass Effect 2, Mass Effect 3, Every other Ubisoft Game Ever Made, Steel Batallion, Armored Core V, Armored Core 4, Armored Core For Answer, Armored Core Nexus... Dark Souls 2.

The list goes on
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>>163706072
Just started a new playthrough, put ~30 hrs in.

I've summoned or been summon about six times.
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>>163707038
That's his girlfriend.
Afro is like a skinny, slightly more pale Yukas. Sorry.
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>>163707090
>it's okay that dark souls 2 did it because other games also did it
Also I have never seen a game being so badly downgraded in my entire life like dark souls 2. it looks like complete shit and nothing like the e3.
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>>163706382
See >>163706924

You either go greatshield or no shield. I recently went through with a Tower Shield and the stability on it trivialized the fight.
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>>163707319
Blame bloodborne and consoles
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>>163707305
do you have anything that support this?
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>be me
>iron keep
>invaded
>destroy
>invaded
>destory
>start sweating
>INVADED BY A ACTUAL PLAYER
>wreckin this clearly high level nigger
>NIGGA DODGES ONE ATTACK AND ONE SHOTS ME WITH SOME BULLSHIT BOMB THAT BREAKS ALL MY ARMOR AND LITERALLY TICKS ME ALL MY HEALTH IN 4 FUCKING SECONDS

WHat a game it is to play to be wrecked by bullshit such as this, i like to think this game is hard and then cheap shit like this pulls me back to reality
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>>163707319
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>>163707319
Take the nice lighting away and you still have the same shit control, the same shit plot, the same shit VA, the same shit balance, the same shit.
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>>163707463
>>163707428
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>>163707319
>>163707428
Blame bloodborne and consoles. Having to Dev for both PS3 AND PS4 AND PC on a shoestring budget with half of your team and Bandai breathing down your neck.

It's not okay, but it doesn't make it a -bad- game. It doesn't make DS2 not worth playing just because it didn't live up to the unrealistic hype that it's demo had.
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>>163707525

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVROA_ef-ng
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>>163707440
>>163707305
>>163707038
>>163706554
>>163705696

kys
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>>163707441
That was probably a cheater throwing a large amount of corrosive urns at once.
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>>163707568

>>163707525
>>163707428

>>163707556
This guy understands. If it wasn't for bloodborne mainly we wouid have had much more people working on DS2 and it would be if not closer to what they had first envisioned.
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>>163707428
BB has nothing to do with that, and ps3/360 could run this better ds2 at 60fps.

>>163707482
but at least its a good looking shit
it's not just about the lighting tho, they changed the textures and models too, and this ruined the feeling of the game.
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How is the MGS?
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>>163706924
i keep losing sight of him because the room is too hard, and yeah hes been doing damage through my shield

right now I am trying to find some human effs and torches
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>>163707678
Bloodborne literally has EVERYTHING to do with it. From took over half the development team away from DS2 to work on it.

>ps3/xbox
>better ds2
>60 fps
>console
>60 fps
>SIXTY FRAMES PER SECOND

what.
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>>163707669
>implying that if bb didn't existed they would not downgrade the game to hell anyway because muh 60 fps
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Guys, I've been playing Dark Souls III for about 5/6 hours and I got to the fire demon by the arrow giant and while I was fighting the demon my controller unplugged, accidently directing a power attack to Siegfried of Catarina, killing him instantly. He and the fire demon are dead. Have I fucked up beyond repair? I read that he is helpful later in the game
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>>163707790
Consoles don't get 60 fps. What you said just now is that consoles held back DS2.

It was both bloodborne and consoles.
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The only reason ds2 was made into shit graphics and worse was because of xbox360 you fucktards. Blame micro$hit
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>>163707752
Go kill the Belfry gargoyles to get the key so you can light that shit up.

Sinner is one of the actually decent usages of lighting in DaS2 and I wish they would've done more of that.
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>>163707775
because the decision of making ds2 run at 60 fps has 100% to do with bloodborne, that don't even run at 60fps.
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>>163707678
> and ps3/360 could run this better ds2 at 60fps.

Haha

no.

PS3 can barely run any games at 60 fps. There's probably under 100 games ever released for that console that can run 60fps. 360 might be more generous, but it highly depends on the graphics involved and what engine the game is using.

Bloodborne has everything to do with it. That demo was developed by the bloodborne Devs, back in 2012 before Sony approached them and Miyazaki left. Did you really think that splitting the company workforce in two would have no repercussions on the development cycle?
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>>163707870
Not really. I didn't manage to complete his quest on my first run either and it wasn't really impacting my run. You missed one slab but that's about it basically.
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>>163707775
>>163708169
i typed wrong and only realized it now, i would say that it could run this better ds2 at 30fps.
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>>163704874
If it was finished. I would imagine we could have interconnected Pisa towers like the one bridging to Yhorm and several hallways where it's too narrow for great weapons and a jailor ambush. Hand monsters, other new monstrosities similar to Chaos eaters roaming near the palace with baited traps around piles of treasure while gargoyles are placed guarding the throne room. Even better if they had mechanisms similar to Shulva switches that changes the area layout and you have to solve a puzzle to get the right combination so you can open the path to Yhorm or whatever boss they had planned to be there. No use in speculating through. So much wasted potential because of early 2016 release demands and limited funding.
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>>163707752
Lost Sinner is a tough boss. You can try other areas and come back to him.

Dark Souls 2 basically has 4 paths, with 3 main bosses each.

You're on path 1.

Easiest:
path 1 boss 1 < Dragonrider, Pursuer, Last Giant
path 2 boss 1
path 3 boss 1
path 4 boss 1
path 1 boss 2 < Pursuer, Flexile Sentry, Ruin Sentinels, Bell Gargoyles
path 2 boss 2
path 3 boss 2
path 4 boss 2
path 1 boss 3 < Lost Sinner
path 2 boss 3
path 3 boss 3
path 4 boss 3

See how that works?
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>>163708000
I did that already, the problem is i dont have torches
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>>163707463
DaS2 fan boys will defend this.
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>>163708279
Can you imagine how annoying it would be to be a waiter in a Shulva restaurant?
>lmao the entire building is moving again i hope you have a good balance or all of those coffee cups are gonna fo flying
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>>163707463
>>163708462

Thanks microsoft and xbox360
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>>163708383
Farm torch hollows at cuntsman's hopse
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anyone wants some fc?
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What are we arguing about tonight gents?
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>>163708645
any place I can farm effies?

my hp bar is in the toiler and i could use some summons
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>>163707669
BB wasn't necessarily a bad thing for the franchise but it did have signs of negative influence on DS2's limited resources and basing DS3's development. On the otherhand, the game's a short but sweet masterpiece with some glaring flaws that blunt it's greatness such as poor pvp, covenants and limited replay-ability, not by a large margin nevertheless.
>>163708548
Those towers were probably designed to separate intruders from the main tower and create shortcuts and gauntlets to supply soldiers at the main front via Tower of Prayer. You still have a long way to get to the main temple from either direction you go albeit the ToP shortcut made it easier for entry.
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>>163708271
I doubt it. Those types of lighting and particle effects are notoriously bad on PS3. X360 has a better chance of running that demo version, and that's without adjusting for the downgrades necessary to make it run on most drivers and graphics cards. That's why DS1 runs worse on good PCs than consoles, optimizing for different hardware is a son of a bitch. Same reason Ubisoft gives for their demos, they claim that the demo versions are optimized for the intended console hardware but the final versions are optimized for all drivers and graphics cards, resulting in lower graphics.

Just because PCs have more 'powerful' cards doesn't mean they can run all games better, optimization matters a lot. Look at Nvidia vs AMD cards, AMD cards have more cores and suck more power and generate more heat usually but are far less optimized so they end up running about the same graphics capabilities despite that.
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>>163708830
Did you get the ring of binding? It's in a chest before the dragonrider. That will keep your HP up even when you're dead.
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>>163708860
DaS2 was just a rushed cash grab. Bamco forced it because they couldn't get their hands on BB.
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>>163701424
You're a god, thanks
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GOING BACK TO DaS FOR THE FIRST TIME IN A FUCK LONG TIME

I'M THINKING A BUILD BASED AROUND VELKA'S RAPIER

OR SUGGEST OTHER RETARDED SHIT TO TRY, IDK.
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>>163708830
Go to Heide and get the Ring of Binding. Instead of human effies you could get a life ring instead.
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>>163708998
>BB under Bamco
Howhorrifying.jpg
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>>163669985
No xbox tournaments allowed, sniffles.
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What's the best way to keep track of your NG+ level in DaS 1? In Bloodborne I use monoculars since you can only get 1 per run and they stack. Would Sanctuary Guardian soul work to the same effect?
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>>163709302
Claymores.
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>>163709198
>all of the marketing is just low fps video of terrible people dying over and over again set to some insipid pop song "LOL SO HARDCORE HARDEST GAME EVER 10/10 PLAY NOW"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNpLhv21BS0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pV5r4ePww8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ioo0ukZ6P-4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gpqRlyTtWGI

makes me fucking vomit
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>>163709773
well of course, they're marketing to americans. they did everything right and you're wrong
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>>163709890
>half of those ads were for european countries
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>>163709954
so? do you think there is a difference to a jap?
just read the youtube comments on all of those vids. their marketing worked perfectly.
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>>163709773
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pV5r4ePww8
>wog on the stone gs
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>over 6 months since release
>wii u pro controller still has to do the stupid shit with device manager disabling and enabling to work
>ironically this is a problem only in DaS1 and DaS3, never DaS2
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>>163709462
Those don't stack. Counting is effort.
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if souls games are so popular, why do they never get any mods? where's my mod that makes DaS3 dragons not look like shit?
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>>163711169
Dancer sure would be more interesting if she was actually that big
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>>163711280

Because modifying Souls art direction is great sacrilege.
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>>163673340
How has your Christmas been, /dsg/?
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>>163711280
Because all From Soft games are written in obtrusively obscure engines and code with no mod support, designed for consoles. It's amazing we have save file decrypters and CE tables, much less 'mods'. Only Dark souls 1 has a few graphics mods.

Also they also have VAC detection flagging mods for bans.
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>>163711630
Been helping people kill bosses for shiny rocks to trade to crows to get a boltstone so I can respec my stats.

Fortunately, helping people kill bosses is one of my favorite things. Unfortunately my like has been awful with the crows.
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>>163711827
DaS3 also have graphic mods, a few texture replacers.
You could get banned for it in DaS2, IIRC in DaS3 you can't be banned for it.
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>>163673340

That's very pretty and nice.

>>163711630

Just came back from visiting my family. How come we don't have a wintertime FC? I guess everyone is busy doing something else, no one even needs help with bosses or anything.
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>>163712360
We had but the host fell asleep midway since everyone stopped coming
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I've been trying to improve at Das2 PvP, mostly been fighting bellbro's, I beat a lot of them because I think I have a good idea of spacing and generally build fairly learn for the lower levels. But I think my fundamental skills are still bad, I have a lot of difficulty landing backstabs. I've mostly been using the estoc and drangelic shield, but I have a tough time against longer weapons that out trade me unless I can get a parry, is that a case where you want to go for rolling attacks?
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>>163711630
Playing Bloodborne and spending time with the senpai so pretty well.
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>>163712360
I could hots a FC at the painted world, but since I'm THE OVERLEVELED FRENCH FROG I would host with my beloved SL 405 char.
This is the only char who has a place available for a FC.
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>>163713671

Holy shit you autistic fucking retard if you want to pvp so badly make a normally leveled character already.

jesus christ
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>>163713671
could host*
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>>163711280
Go play Skyrim you fucking faggot furry.
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>>163713817
Did I trigger you ?
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>>163713671

Can I bring my 99 luck character?
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I'm thinking about reinstalling DaS3 after not having played since launch. I have some questions:

Is the balance between builds and weapons/spells better?

Is the PvP balance better? Last time I played, PvP combat was so defensive, and there was practically no punishment for rolling away and taking a sippy during a fight.

I'm looking at the patch notes, and it says something about greatswords, greathammers, and halberds increasing your physical defense when used. What's that all about?

Is the DLC worth buying? Why are its steam reviews so poor?
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>>163709302
Mail breakers in DS1.

>>163711210
Well how about Gwyn's Souls?
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>>163713671
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why is there a gigantic fucking triple crossbow that somehow knows to target and fuck me up deep in a cave beneath some catacombs
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>>163714251

Don't PD my BF!
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>>163714256
They were trying to nail the Carthus Sandworm.
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>>163714058
>Why are its steam reviews so poor?

because sl200 turbo spergs held dash button through all of it and didn't stop for a single second and were surprised they finished it in a hour
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>>163713956

And then people wonder why the pc fightclubs have such a horrible reputation and everyone avoids it like the plague.

kek
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>>163714058

>Why are its steam reviews so poor?

The DLC didn't work for a lot of people when it came out.
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>>163713989
I don't give a shit about SL desu

>>163714251
Only one can point down at me !

>>163714337
<3

>>163714469
Maybe you could stop being triggered over nothing and try to have, god forbid, fun/ ?
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>>163713956
yes, autism triggers me

everyone else manages to understand social cues and norms so effortlessly, when someone like you comes along and seems to manage to get quite literally everything wrong it shocks me
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>>163714621
Please stop, I hate how empty the clubs get because you guys keep driving them away.
Downscaling was a mistake
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>>163714621

Hahaha, just keep this up my man, soon you'll have no one left except that one other autist with an overleveled character that does nothing but fuck people over with CE.

Good luck to the two of you in your little club, have fun!
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>>163714058
>Is the balance between builds and weapons/spells better?
Quality 40/40 is still the cookie cutter build
>Is the PvP balance better?
no
>PvP combat was so defensive, and there was practically no punishment for rolling away and taking a sippy during a fight.
That's still true.
>I'm looking at the patch notes, and it says something about greatswords, greathammers, and halberds increasing your physical defense when used. What's that all about?
Patch notes are written by illiterates, they probably meant changing poise values.
>Is the DLC worth buying?
yes
>Why are its steam reviews so poor?
DLC didn't activate for people with season pass for couple hours so they went to steam store, shat on it and never changed the review after actually playing. Also turboniggers rushing into dlc meant for ~70SL characters with their 120+ ones and guessing why it's short it's actually longer than Artorias
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>>163714058
People slam the DLC for being "short" which is bullshit unless you went in with an overleveled character and summoned 3 buttbuddies to hold your hand throughout the experience.

Either that or they expected it to have been Old Hunters-tier which is ridiculous since TOH was 2 DLCs in one.

One legit criticism that I could give about the DLC is that the other bossfight of the DLC was nowhere near DLC boss quality and ended up being a stupid reference. Everything about the bossfight suggests that the other bossfight was supposed to be a LGK type of deal but instead you'll fight a naked clown and a recycled DaS2 boss.
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so is there a fc?
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>>163714642
>>163714693
>>163714853
>this much of samefagging
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>>163714925
>>Is the balance between builds and weapons/spells better?
>Quality 40/40 is still the cookie cutter build
>>Is the PvP balance better?
>no
>>PvP combat was so defensive, and there was practically no punishment for rolling away and taking a sippy during a fight.
>That's still true.

sounds like I shouldn't even bother then
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>>163713387
If you want to learn to backstab, fight Greatsword players.

Lock on
Roll behind their attack
Disable lock on
turn around and stab .

Playing unlocked really helps improve your backstabbing.

Backstabs aren't really that valuable in DS2, mostly because they don't bypass defenses. Shield break or parry Ripostes and getting counter damage is going to yield more success for the effort.
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>Outside Pontiff's
>Feeling bored, decide to summon a Dark Spirit for a fight
>Guy rolls up with a black knight shield and scythe
>Immediately runs away, lights up a miracle and starts throwing lightning at me
>Well alrighty then
>Fight him normally with my black blade and cathedral knight shield, as if I'm pure melee
>Turns out it's the Sister's scythe, because he whips out the little blue one and starts doing some fresh cool attacks with it
>Try to bait him by playing the bitch and hiding behind my greatshield
>Sure enough he takes the bait, I let him pound my shield to bits for a while, get frostbitten
>Finally he decides it's time to finish me off
>Runs away and then comes charging right at me with both scythes
>At this point, I whip out my pyromancy hand buffed with Witch ring and Swamp ring
>Throw a chaos fire orb into his face and smash out two thirds of his health in one hit
>He dives away and tries to estus, but to no avail, as my second fire orb smushes him again
>mfw his last sliver of health is wiped out by the lava burn as I Applause
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>>163709198
For all intense purposes, DAS3 was BB under Bamco.
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>>163715189
I mean you can try playing as pyro, sorc or poise monster and have success with it, but you're gonna still see a lot of lmao40/40 R1 spammers. That's just how the game was designed sadly.
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>>163715295
>for all intense purposes

For all intents and purposes.
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>>163715118
>le epin autismal frenchman continues to fail to understand simple human interaction

staggering
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>>163714058
DLC actually gave us some genuinely fun STR/DEX weapons
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>>163715451
>CHOOSE YOUR OWN DIFFICULTY
>Miyazaki jerking himself off for all time
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>>163714621
Anyone can point your ripe with souls ass.
>>
in the fucking labyrinth hallways in smouldering lake with lava everywhere, how do i safely walk on it?
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>>163715630
You don't
in the lava next to Tsorig though, point a shield at the far end of the wall, preferably the biggest you can get your hands on
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>>163715118
No, here's the thing, I host FCs sometimes, outside a few people that'll always FC and come no matter what, you people keep trying your best to make newcomers want to avoid FCs and admiting to being an overleveled fuck really isn't helping.
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>>163715552
Choose your levels of enjoyment too, because beating shitters with something not popular or orthodox is a great feeling.
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>>163715708
but there are items and i can't reach them. is it some spell or other thing i haven't found yet? i've looked through what i've got and it just kills too fast anyway
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>>163715630
Stack fire protection and Profuse Sweat pyromancy.
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Daily dose of Dark Souls is the best series ever

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzJDimvPW1Y
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I finally beat the the Last Sinner.

Where should I go now?
Shaded Woods?
Huntsman Corpse?
or should I try to kill the red Dragon again?
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>>163715806
It's probably a pyromancy called sacred flame
Don't try rolling or anything, just chug estus constantly and use your best fire gear
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>>163715901
Huntsman's Copse.
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>>163715901
The dragon is trivial as long as you can sprint beyond his fire cone before it begins
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>>163715901
Kill the red dragon with the bow
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>>163715486
>le ebin internet guy who gets triggered over a number continue giving me (you)s because he's upset

>>163715757
How does it even matter if I'm the one hosting, since apart from a few people everyone is around 120
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>>163715451
>>163715552
I wish you fucking hoopleheads would realize that the game has PvE and PvP at more SLs than muh 120 tryhard duels.

With the poise fix, pure STR/DEX is perfectly viable in the sub-80 SL PvP which carries you through PvE easily.

Also:
>people cry about Memezacki hating STR and FTH
>his signature weapon in the series has a B STR scaling and B FTH scaling
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What happend to lautrec in ds3? Did patches kick him into the pit with the two crocdogs?
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>>163715901
>lvl 78
>those stats

what the fuck, am i not seeing something? this doesn't add upp
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>>163716301
first time playing the series
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>>163716279
i'm pretty sure his body was simply eventually eaten by dogs after you wrecked him in his world in ds1
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>>163716330
no i don't mean like that, it just looks like stats are missing
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Why are clerics so fat?
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>>163716152
>he applies tangible value and feels genuine positive emotions from replies on an anoymous mongolian shadow puppet symposium and spends his spare time making truly abhorrent posts in order to get people to respond
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>>163716490
t. patches
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I'm really excited. Tried my best to avoid spoilers, want to play it as blind as possible
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>>163716614
Sigward kills Yhorm who turns out to be your father
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>>163716162
Even at sl 120 pure dex or str is a good option. You'll keep a good amount of points to put into vig/end/vit. Also, is vit any good on dex builds?
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>>163716614
snape kills dumbledore

DaS3 is not something to be super stoked about, especially if you waited this long to play it. It's a really mediocre entry by series standards.
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>>163716162

Nothing excuses INT being the worst stat in the game by far, like RES in DaS. Every level into INT in DaS3 gimps you.
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>>163716906
I have about 140 hours each in 1 and 2 I'm just excited to finish the series here and let me have my Christmas excitement damnit
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>>163716152
Because anyone can level up and start abusing it, they can even CE if they want.
140, which is still in 120's range, is able to complete pretty much any build with a lot of variety if someone wants that badly and still be in range.
There's no harm having overleveled characters, just don't bring them to FCs just because the system now allows it.
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Choose your starting class
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>>163716872
Vit is only really good on builds that rely on trading i.e mostly weapons with "str playstyle".
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>>163717018
Int isn't that bad in 3
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>>163717056
>not going 144SL for maximum fun
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>>163717121
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>>163717049
Dark souls 3 is quite a blast honestly. Most people hate it because its the latest entry in the series.
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>>163717121
>6 million
lmao
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>>163717121

I dont get silver bravepaw
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>>163717428
furry/brony archetype
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>>163716509
(you)

:^)
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>>163717394
Most people hate it for being mediocre despite being the last Dark Souls FROM will make. It doesn't help that most of it is literally "remember ds1/DeS?"
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>>163676004
This article is always a hoot for being so meta
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>>163717394
Cool!
Well it just finished downloading. I'll be disappearing into my basement now for the next two weeks, see y'all
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>>163717121
I want to see Allahu Akbar vs. 6 Million in a live broadcast sudden deathmatch.
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>>163717994
>inplying 6 million won't summon 3 gold phantoms Good Goyim to gank him
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guys help
i was waiting for invasions but had to take a mad dump so i ran off the the bathroom and then i heard the phantom summon sound so i quickly put my clothes back on but i accidentally put my dick on backwards in my haste and now im a girl
what the fuck do i do
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>>163718106
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9zW9jlrp9I
>implying he doesn't have couple of tricks on his own
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>>163717759
I can agree some of the callbacks have had detrimental effects on the game, but most of them were handeld alright. On the mediocrity the game really doesn't have any bad areas and it feels great. You even have a few great areas. It stays consistant and has a better feeling than ds1/2 where sometimes you don't look forward to certain areas. Also, the bosses and the games lore are top notch.
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>>163676004

did somebody say fextralife
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Anyone know where I can find the most up to date cheat table for SOTFS? Specially I'm talking about the lighting/filter table referenced here:

http://git.io/vkhlq

But I'm looking at the latest versions and there's no such thing as a "filters/lighting" table. And on top of that, the latest CE table just gives me 'dings' when trying to activate cheats in-game, so what the fuck is up with that? Is there a new version that needs to be updated in the pastebin? Did From update SOTFS and make CE no longer work?
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>>163718414
Also there's nothing there in the "Advanced options" named 'dynamic shadow toggle lock'.

I've tried both DarksoulsII.CT and SoFS LightBase.CT, both seem not to work.
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>Did From update SOTFS and make CE no longer work?
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>>163718735
I can't figure out what else would make the tables completely non functional.

The lighting table from the most recent version doesn't do anything in-game, and doesn't match the guide description.
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>>163716441
/dsg/ told me not to level certain states
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>>163718735
>>163718810
>>163718414
>>163718594

Trying to change any lighting value results in it defaulting back to "??" and getting a 'ping' noise.
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>>163697685
>doesn't look bad, in all honesty
>sitting right in front of the path to Farron Keep
>lightweight but has that knight aesthetic
>good stats
>probably the best looking set they've wandered around and gotten by Crucifixion Woods, finally get to change from starting class
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Is there some meme I'm missing?
>Be farming shackles for my pyro.
>get white summoned, kill npcs and invaders
>Plowed by host & co.
*point down*

But you summoned me?
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Stupid question /dsg/: If I buy the game off steam, should I still install DSFix?
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>>163719758
Of course.
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>>163719758
Yes.
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>>163719651
>not farming shekels with friendly anon that allows you to kill him 30 times
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>>163719651
>>163719994

>farming non-auto summon covenant items

Honestly, that is so pathetic you might as well kill yourself
>>
Any advice for first time going to New Londo in DS1?
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>>163720303
enjoy your ganks :^)
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>>163720303
I just want warmth.
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>>163720394
why, warmth needs the same fth as great heal but is far more shit
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>>163718735
>>163719163
Can someone just link me the most up-to-date table for DX11 SOTFS v1.02 c2.02?

The one in the pastebin doesn't work. All the values can't be found.
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>>163720365
Use transient curse and keep it selected on the hud so you'll know when the effect has ended and have to be recast. Other than that, watch your step and don't get spook'd.
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>>163720464
How else you're gonna heal people in FC? or get all achievements
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>>163720941
they have their own fucking estus
and completionism is dumb
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>>163720941
By not being so shit you can't kill 30 hosts
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>>163720690
How rough are the ghosts? They're easy as long as you get the transient curse running, yeah?
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>>163721854
it depends on when youre fighting them
if youre fresh out of the asylum theyll be tough
if you just got back from the rodeo youll be fine
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>>163721854
Not him, but I've never thought they were bad, but they come in large numbers. Take it slow and bring at least 10 curses if you hope to survive the first time.
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>>163721980
I think I've done everything doable and only have New Londo left to do.

>>163722038
Pretty sure I have over 10.
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Do whips suck in ds3 pve? I remember them being garbage in 1
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>>163722167
Just remember to take it slow. They'll come through the walls, the ceilings, the floors, everywhere. If you go too fast you'll aggro roughly 47 ghosts and it'll be a hell of a time.
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>>163722262

They're slightly better, still bad.
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Where is the dark soul in das3?
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420 PRAISE IT
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>>163722756
Deep inside Yuria's colon
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>>163722756
>>163723385
where is the 3 in dark souls 3, I found the dark soul in Yuria's colon

I want to get 100% completion
>>
Any place to summon once you kill all the bosses? Undead match sucks.
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>>163723848
yorshka has it
you have to do her sidequest, which requires both dlcs to complete
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Do you want the new DLC to add new covenants, like the Old Hunters did?
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>>163724352
They should make the old ones not fucking trash first
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>>163724352
Only if they're PvE oriented, anything else would be redundant
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what's the point of mad spirits or mound makers?
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Does anyone else think nohtml is kinda a cunt
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>>163724543
No, he's our guy
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>>163724543
I think he's just barely enough of a cunt to make it fun. He's also good at what he does
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>>163724530
Basically nothing since they can't hurt enemies as invaders.
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>>163724828
i really don't get it
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where the fc
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>>163724943
They aren't useful as wild cards since you have to manually summon them. If they can invade you in wild card status, that would really make them pure wild cards, adding to their chaos.
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I'm moving onto DS3 from Bloodborne; are there any specific builds or anything I should make for my first run?
I don't want to make a shit character then miss out on a bunch of stuff.
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>TBFP\Zaibatsu\Super Best Friends are now doing a full E M E R G E N C Y Let's Play of Dark Souls 1

This gun be gud

their channel is fucking dead after this
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>>163723004
>tfw quit dank for jobs
>ywn enjoy dark souls while high
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>>163724352
They should improve the old ones first. But hypothetically, if they do add more then what could compete with the ones we have currently? They should fix covenant summons or have one that actually mean something.
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>>163724695
>>163724780
I just find him whiny. A bit narcissistic, but it only comes out sometimes
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>>163724945
you tell us
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So, I'm on a laptop and DS3 is running slow as fuck, how can I speed the fps up? I've turned all the in-game settings down already. Also DS2 ran great so I thought this would be fine... Help please?
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Help please
Should I buy Dark Souls 3 now?
I'm not sure if it will run well enough. By the time I replace this laptop, DS3 will be cheaper anyway.

It ran DS2 SoTFS just fine in all areas
It ran DS1 just fine with stutter in Blighttown

How much more intensive is DS3?
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>>163726774
Hey, it's me >>163726431
And I'm running DS3 faster than I ran DS1, I would guess if the only place you had any problems was blighttown you'll probably be mostly okay. Also what are the specs on your laptop?
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What's a good one handed fast weapon to infuse with Chaos, preferably an axe? I'm doing a pyro build and I'm currently using a Fire thrall Axe until I can upgrade it to chaos. I'm not worried about pvp, it's a pve build.
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>>163726431
lulz nice timing anon
What are you laptop specs? I'm
>>163726774
>>163727030

I've got a 2.8 Ghz AMD quad core
(A8-3500M overclocked)
6750m video
4 gigs RAM (CANNOT BE UPGRADED)
No seriously, one of my RAM slots is bad. Not the card, the slot itself. So I only have one slot for RAM. I lost my other 2 gigs of RAM when that stupid thing died.
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>>163727145
Whatever you like
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>>163727341
Any personal recommendations, though?
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>>163727448
Thrall axe
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>>163727478
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What is this strategy called?
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>>163727650
Isn't that dead angling?
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where's the dark soul in ds3?
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r8 my /fa/ith /fa/shion
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>>163727650
Dead angling and I personally call the warcry charges R2Bait I also like to use warcried and charged roll r2s so people misjudge as an opening. If you charge attacks while warcry is on, the charge will stagger people+you poise through their attacks and land the full hit. But it's also a dangerous gambit since this move absolutely needs the other guy to come closer otherwise it will whiff in front of them and they will just bank it as a free hit. Super cool to pull off through.
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Hm....

Suggestions?
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>>163728069
yandere blood nun/10
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Am I a real invader yet?
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Do I need some special item to deal with all this poison shit?
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>>163728395
Is that a bastard sword?
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>>163728439
Yeah, poison moss. You can farm them in the darkroot garden.
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>>163728109
before:can see things
after:can't see anything
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post your very first (ds3) character's face
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>>163728395
get on my level
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>>163727247
AMD A10-7300 Radeon R6 1.7(?) GHz 8gigs RAM
Can't run DS1 for shit anymore, it was bearable for a while then it just stopped. I dunno why. DS3 is running at... Bearable. 15 fps maybe. But it hurts.
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This boss arena actually looks really cool after the sky changes.
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>>163728585
>that hud
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>>163728528
thats it?
theres no special armor or something that makes me impervious to it?
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>>163728849
You have to join the fart fetish covenant for that
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>>163728849
This isn't monster hunter.
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>>163728463
Yeah. The claymore is better in every way, I know. I like it, though. It's still a greatsword with the faster swing speed, so it still stunlocks poiselets, and the damage is just fine. Makes it all the more satisfying to see how scared these hosts and their phantoms are of me. They're seriously sitting at bonfires trying to summon each other just to deal with a man in knight armor wielding a bastard sword.
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>>163728849
Pyromancer clothes, spider shield, and poisonbite ring iirc. Also iirc Rusted Iron Ring is helpful for not making you walk slow in the swamp.
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>>163728752
It's pretty, don't be jealous.
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>>163729062
That's great. People shit on the bastard sword too much like it's a totally worthless weapon
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>>163728109
Here's another one.
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how does one kill 4 of these at once?
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>>163730420
Gitting bdder
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>>163730420
There's no situation where you have to. Take it slow and pull them one at a time. A few have shared aggros (if you pull one, you'll pull the other), but at no time should you be fighting 4. Maybe 3 if you're unlucky.
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>>163730420
don't be a mong and run right into them
pull one at a time
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>>163730420
You don't. Walk very slowly and only trigger/aggro one of them at a time, then walk back to a safe place to fight them.

If you aggro one too quickly, it will aggro the next and the next, etc, causing all four to attack at once.

To be safe, use a bow to aggro the closest one from a safe distance.

That area is also totally optional, BTW.
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lol it's fun messing with textures
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So I noticed some of the recent up and comers in the dark souls "trolling" community stage the fuck out of their videos.

Which ones do you think are legit?
>>
>>163731298
Fighter .PL definitely stages his videos, unless he means for you to believe he somehow successfully invaded the same guy at 6 different locations throughout the game and did the EXACT same thing to him each time, in one video.

He doesn't even try to hide it. Rainbow sushi also stages his shit as well.

Krazy is legit though, and so is lost my sanity, dude even streams his stuff from time to time.

other than that, I don't really know any other channels dedicated to trolling. the older the game gets, the more resistant it becomes to forward forcing people off of edges, except for when the game is on sale.
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>>163730420
I forgot how scary these fuckers were when they're on high pursuit. It took me a while until I realize you could draw them out one at a time.
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>>163730529
>That area is also totally optional

Thank you, you robbed me of the opportunity to stumble upon that myself.
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>>163731636
If you don't want to get spoiled, get the fuck out.
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>look through ds2 folder
>see navlaan, want to replay and make an arch mage who can use every form of magic again
>remember they butchered magic
>remember I never make it through FOFG without quitting because of the awful animations

I wish BB and DeS were on PC so I could play them more often
>>
>>163732146
>butchered magic
>DS2

What?

DS2 has the strongest magic in the franchise, it was straight-up OP before being patched, now it's just "powerful". Magic is easy mode for DS2.
>>
>Trying to play dark souls 3
>more confused in a souls game then i have ever been
they have really taken this "no hand holding" thing too far
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>>163732467
How the fuck are you confused in Normie Souls 3?
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>>163730420
>>163730420

Jesus christ, I accidentally ended up here after falling off the bridge.

Nearly shat myself.
>>
>>163732146
>every hex
>good warmth, flame snake, etc
>soul geyser, focus souls, etc
admittedly faith in 2 is awful, but it got overnerfed because lmao lightnigh speer
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>>163714123
Go on....
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>love the plague doctor mask on crystal sage hat
>arms constantly go through hat
reee
>>
>>163734752
>no hatless option whatsoever

Fuck From
>>
So, getting back into dark souls after a break. Never did a dex/pyro or dex/int build.

For pyro, I'm using the BSS, and will be grabbing the laito as well, and will probably get kellogs for the theme. For now, just rock my basic fireball until I save Laurentis in the depths, then start to pump some att for more spells slots?

For the int/dex, I'm using the winged spear (just got to the parish) and a longsword (depending on enemies, will make the longsword divine for the catacombs) until I can get a BSS. Have 2 soul arrow and 1 heavy soul arrow in my 3 slots. For my weapons, should I upgrade my BSS to +15 and buff it, upgrade it to enchanted to scale off of my int, or one of each so I don't get royally butfucked in dukes archives?
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>>163729262
It's because it's such a boring fucking weapon. Basically the only attack you will use with it is the 2HR1 and that's it, that's about all the Bastard Sword is good for and the same goes for pretty much all the greatswords with that sweep R2.
>>
Hey, I loved the shit out of DaS1 and tried to enjoy DaS2, but the lack of invasions and the soul memory system made it impossible.
In thinking about getting Dark Souls 3 on the sale right now. How does the online part of gameplay work this time?
>>
>>163736835
Did you play SOTFS? When did you play it?

The lack of invasions isn't due to soul memory., which allows a wider SL invasion range against players at your progression level, but a narrower one against players who are better / further along than you. When DS2 was active, it was far more active than DS1 because of this.

The reason you aren't being invaded by other players is because most people who want to fight other players are using the red sign soapstone and getting summoned, instead of cracked eye orbs (there's no full red eye orb anymore). So you will get fewer aggressive invaders/twinks and you will get more the invasion timer is also rather long. (30m in an area after you kill a boss, 5m between invasions)

Vanilla DS2 has no one playing right now, and SOTFS being mostly PvPers at the 1m - 3m - 5m soul memory tiers.

I still get invaded 3-4 times per playthrough, though, so it's probably your fault for having your SM too high so that you're not getting invaded anymore.

Learn how all this works and you can invade/get invaded rather regularly across a few areas.

If you're play dark souls purely for the invasions though, you're going to be disappointed no matter what. It's not the focus of the series and multiplayer in all souls games is rather fucked.

DS3 is Soul Level plus highest upgrade level of your weapon, sort of a compromise between SL and SM.
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>>163735576
+15 and buffed will do more damage than +15 enchanted for all soul levels and scaling.
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>>163737465
I did play SOTFS, around a month ago. The main problem I have with SM is that, unlike in DaS1, I can't just hang around one boss and keep helping people with a hard part of the game.

I've played for around 40 hours, haven't gotten invaded nor had my host get invaded once. also from time to time I got a weird connection, where apparently I didn't move on the host's side, even though I was halfway through the area on mine, got black crystsal'd a bunch of times that way. I think it might be something with my connection though.
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>>163735890
>ds2 players
>>
Whoo hoo, downed the spider bitch in Blighttown, slowly, I progress through these games.
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>>163738336

Enjoy the fun house. ;)
>>
>>163738336
Good job. Hope you like snakes.
>>
Yo, is the DaS3 DLC any good?
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>>163738948
it'short,but I liked it a lot.
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Wtf? I can't hit these ducking ghosts in New Londo
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>>163739023
You have to be cursed to hit ghosts. Don't worry, being at half health isn't THAT bad.
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>>163737949
You can still do that, you just have to be careful about what your SM is set at and which bosses players need help with. There's a lot fewer bosses in DS2 that really need co op and there's tons of NPC phantoms (and questlines for summoning them) so it's kinda rare to really need a player.

But if you want to do glorious co-op, Earthen Peak is where it's at.
>right after sun covenant
>TONS of secrets throughout the level to help players with
>boss is impossible unless you know the windmill trick
>2 fairly easy bosses in the same area, both good for farming sunlight medals

Drangleic castle is another good place, since you can get summoned for lots of bosses and at varied SM.

40 hours really isn't enough to judge DS2 fairly, since most of the early and main game is pretty shit. If you were able to beat the game and DLC in 40 hours, then you were almost certainly at too low of a SM to get invaded regularly.
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holy fucking shit
do i have to put every fucking point into vigor to not get one shot or combo'd to death by everysingle enemy in the game?
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>>163739092
Put points into endurance so you can avoid getting hit at all.
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>>163739057
>>163739023
Or use a Transient Curse item, which you get 2 of from the pot corpse right before the ghosts, or can buy from the undead merchant.
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And my fire keeper is dead up above? What the hell man? If I die here I have to run up all the way through Blighttown again.
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>>163739023

Either get cursed and be at half health, or pop a transient curse item to be able to hit them for a few minutes until it wears off.
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>>163739147

>He he he
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>>163739164
>>163739142
>>163739057
>>163739023

>hitting the ghosts

Just run REALLY FAST through the area until you get to Ingward. then decide how you want to get the key from him.
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>>163739207
You bloody cunt! I helped you!
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>>163739287

I always get fucked in that tunnel, where the two come from down below, one from the side, and one from up above.
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>>163739147
If you just beat Quelaag, you shouldn't be in New Londo yet. Go back to the Undead Parish where Andre is.
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>>163739359
Yeah, my friend just redirected me after I fell in the water. Sen's Fortress, right?
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Who started the meme that bosses keep getting harder past ng+7 in dark souls 3?

It caps after that
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>>163739415
Yeah. Make sure to explore the place a bit, you can find some great stuff in the chests.
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>>163739526
Like pressure plate traps and snake men...this is going to be fun, I can already tell
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>>163739589
Sen's is either your favorite DS1 area, or your most hated.
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>>163739589
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>>163739639
>tfw it's your favorite because of faith invading build with 3 copies of force
heh
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>>163739639
So far my most hated in Blight Town, seriously, fuck that whole place man
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>>163739657
you monster
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>>163739639

I hate the dukes archives. Enemy health takes a big jump, they hit much harder, and fucking channelers out the ass tossing soul arrows and buffing them further.
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>>163739657

>Some men just want to watch the world burn
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>>163739924
Duke's was the hardest for me my first time, but once I figured out the path and what order to kill people in, it became pleasantly challenging. I also absolutely love the level design, if it wasn't for that I would have found it a lot more frustrating.

Also, as someone who tends to run attack-heavy strength builds, I was still killing everyone in duke's in 1-2 hits anyway.
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Does parrying Sulyvahn make me a shitter?
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I've never done blighttown the real way.

I found the Valley of Drakes five second path long before I knew gaping dragon existed, and found it to be the easiest part of the game.

After hearing about the hellhole it apparently is the legit way, there's no way in fuck I ever will.
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>>163740261

No fuck that guy.
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>>163740261
If you parry bosses, you're a shitter
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>>163740318
I don't parry bosses, just Sulyvahn.
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>>163740261
he's hard as fucking balls if you don't

easily the hardest boss in the game, NK doesn't have shit considering how much NK whiffs every other attacks
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>>163740346
Sulyvahn is a boss.
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>>163740282
The Gutter and Black Gulch were both far worse than Blight Town
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>>163740395

I always need to use ultra greatswords against bosses and champ is the most annoying so I parry his ass

He gives me no opening in phase 2 and cancels his animation to fuck me up in ng maxed
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>>163740261

Isn't sully hardish to parry as it is? Maybe 1 attack of his is easily parried

Good thing riposting his ass does so much damage
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>>163740413
Yes, I am parrying a boss (Sulyvahn). But I do not parry bosses (plural).
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>>163740418
The gutter is god like, my dude
At least it doesnt have trudging through sludge and toxic darts.
it's also aesthetic af with the torches lit
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>>163740418
Black Gulch, yes. Gutter? Nah.

Gutter wasn't hard. It was just yet another "You're supposed to use a torch and light sconces throughout this level but no one did that because we turned the lighting up in fear of newbies freaking out in the dark" levels.

Gutter is actually pretty well designed if you use the torch to light your way so you know where you've been before. This is one reason why they added so many more torch sconces in the SOTFS version.
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>>163740537
>Isn't sully hardish to parry as it is?
Yes, just even harder without.
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>>163740418
not even close you giant retard

the gutter has barely any enemies and just has those poison statues that die in one hit and black gulch is short as fuck with a leechmonger tier boss
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>>163740594

Ehh sort of. My reaction time never got used to his bullshit. I never know when it's safe to attack since he switches shit up too much. I tend to keep my distance so he uses that easy parriably move
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>>163740395
I found NK hard as hell. I'd take Sully over him any day.
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When you think about it, did Sillyman do anything wrong?
>>
When/how did the primordial serpents even come into existence?
What does Frampt stand to gain by working with Gwyndolin to trick you into prolonging the age of fire?
What does Kaathe stand to gain by redpilling you into the age of dark?

This has to be what the last DaS3 DLC covers, right? It's by far the most important unexplained plot thread in the series.
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>>163740579
SOTFS version also has much better lighting in general so it looks far better, along with other areas
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>>163740557
>>163740579
Oh I'm not saying that it's a shut arena, it's not bot something that I enjoy doing, I'm just really put on edge my dark areas that are filled with easy to fall off catwalks.
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>>163740639
That's weird. NK is an absolute joke if you just back the fuck off and let him dive you, letting you get a million hits in while his slow ass whiff animation goes

Sully is fucking batshit and is the only boss in the series i can't beat without lucky parries or summons
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What area in DS2 with the worst lighting?

I'm messing around with a lighting mod and I want suggestions on where I could improve for some screenshots.
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>>163740639

Maybe because sully goes down fast in ng. Then you get to ng maxed and he 2 shots your ass while NK can be toyed with if you know his moves. I think you can dodge every slow ass move of his
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>>163740664
>What does Frampt stand to gain by working with Gwyndolin to trick you into prolonging the age of fire?
Motorboating from Gwynevere whenever he wants.

>What does Kaathe stand to gain by redpilling you into the age of dark?
Nothing, he's just a good guy and wants the best for everyone.

>This has to be what the last DaS3 DLC covers, right? It's by far the most important unexplained plot thread in the series.
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAaaaa
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>>163740664
Serpents were around since the age of the dragons, they're basically failed dragons, as the rings explain.

Kaathe wants a return to form and dominance over another lifeless age eventually now that the dragons are dead. Frampt is a fucking enigma with literally nothing to gain. Maybe he's just a good guy.
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>>163740681
DS2 was supposed to be entirely built around the torch mechanic. Almost every area has some unused torch-based gimmick or atmosphere that was ruined because they turned the player glow and ambient light up so high in the final version.
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>>163740740
>kaathe is just a good guy
>>163740813
>frampt is just a good guy
really made me think
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>>163740828
DS2 with brightness on minimum is a legitimately god tier horror game.

Bloodborne too for that matter.
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>>163740813
>Frampt is a fucking enigma with literally nothing to gain. Maybe he's just a good guy.

>prolonging the age of fire
>good
who could be behind this post
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>>163740920
>age of fire being prolonged is bad
>not better than every human being becoming a mindless mad hollow, whether it's the natural state or not
>>
Age of Fire, Age of Dark and Age of Dragons, is there a 4th age?
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>>163741035
>>not better than every human being becoming a mindless mad hollow, whether it's the natural state or not
That's not what the age of dark is fagget. That's happening because the Age of Fire is going too long and suppressing the darkness of the human soul.
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>>163741035
They go hollow because of the darksign. Humanity literally leaks out of that hole
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>>163741081

Age of humies
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>>163741081
Age of Dsg
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>>163740740
>>163740664
>>163740813

I always saw Frampt as a dumb simpleton who basically just thought Gwyn was a good guy and that linking the fire must be a good thing to do, whereas Kaathe was unnecessarily cynical.

That being said, the most likely thing for the next DLC to have is for the player to fight a proper, true dragon. It's the one thing that Miyazaki has teased us.

In DS1 you fight undead dragons, drakes, larger fire breathing drakes, a mutated (gaping) dragon, a scalless/weakened dragon (Seath). The plot revolves heavily around the aftermath of destroying the dragons. You also meet one of the last true dragons left.
In DS2 you fight a fake dragon (ancient dragon), larger flame drakes, and a small poisoned/tainted dragon (Sinh). The entire plot revolves around a scholar to a king who tried to recreate the dragons and ended up creating monsters.
In DS3 you fight the ancient wyvern, which isn't a true dragon, but is the closest we've seen so far.

What we have never gotten since the beginning of the franchise was a true, city-sized massive dragon battle, but it has been teased in almost every game multiple times that such dragons can exist.

If Ds2 is any indication, the final DLC would involve a boss that was basically only beatable with other players, like the Ivory King. A large scale dragon battle like what was teased in the DS1 intro would make complete sense.

Then again, who fucking knows. Miyazaki could do literally anything and people would still buy it, and he's been trying to distance himself from the series since DS1. I doubt he has any interest in delivering on his teases, and will just find whatever his fancy is this week to add.
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>>163741081
Age of the Deep Sea
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>>163741081
The Age of Kos. or some say, Kosm
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>>163740873

See:

>>163740714
>>163730151
>>163728109
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>>163741142
I thought the Deep was just the Dark.
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>>163741125
Kalameet was legitimately stated to be one of the last true ancient dragons, and we fought him just fine.
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>>163741125
>If Ds2 is any indication,
it's not

>a boss that was basically only beatable with other players, like the Ivory King
>like the Ivory King
lmao
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>>163741194
>Kalameet was legitimately stated to be one of the last true ancient dragons,
When?
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>>163741142
Is this a link to Bloodborne? Large bodies of water are said to be a bulwark for the old gods, or something like that, could that be in refrence to Dark Souls? An age long since past and forgotten?
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>>163741193
imo
Deep is to Dark as Chaos or the Profaned Flame is to the First Flame.
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>>163741112
Isn't that the Age of Dark though?
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>>163741194
I thought he was a child dragon, not yet full grown.

The Ancient Dragon in DS2 is closer to the scale of what mature dragons are supposed to be in the souls universe, but a little larger than that and with immortal, impenetrable scales.

Also, the DS3 dragon covenant head looks VERY similar to the nassuve dragons in the DS1 intro video.
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>>163741313
The Profaned Flame is chaos? I thought they just sort of cut everything involving it but a couple of item descriptions.
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>>163741091
It IS literally stated that the hollow is humanity's natural state and the sanity of fire is just a comforting facade.

Who knows what an age of dark would be like, but Londor seems to be doing just fine hollow, as do the shopkeeps in DaS1 in the burg, because they've given themselves a purpose and kept themselves busy.

>>163741248
>>163741350
Obsidian Greatsword description calls him the last of the ancient dragons, and Gough mentions that he was so tough even Gwyn wouldn't fuck with him.
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>>163741396
>It IS literally stated that the hollow is humanity's natural state
Yes, but being hollow is every non-dragon's natural state. The dark soul is as unnatural as the other souls from the flame.
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>>163741367
That's not what I meant.
I think the deep is basically a corrupted aspect of dark.

Dark and Light are polar opposites and they both have corruptions. Dark has the abyss and the deep while Light has chaos and the profaned flame.
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>>163741396
That might just be a case of lore not matching up with gameplay. Kalameet was pretty mediocre, even compared to other dragons in the franchise, especially Sinh and the ancient dragon.

It might mean that Miyazaki would feel less of a need for a proper massive dragon battle, though, if DS1's DLC was supposed to be a 'true' dragon.
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>>163741489
>Yes, but being hollow is every non-dragon's natural state.
yeah and it sucks shit

who the fuck wants to be in their natural state if it blows ass?

>>163741498
It's implied that Kalameet was special enough though, with his weird calamity shit he has going on. I just think different dragons have different abilities and sizes.

Sinh sucked though.
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>>163741602
In concept Sinh was pretty interesting, it was just lacking in execution.
A bit like the rest of the game really.
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>>163741602
>who the fuck wants to be in their natural state if it blows ass?
No one sane. But the Age of Dark is like the Age of Fire, filling up all those hollows with lord juice. Just, the Dark Soul instead of the others.
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>>163718369
Ayy lmao
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>>163742553
>Feeding items to Frampt can show some backstory in itself, primarily by looking at the soul value of various items.
>He seems to like Dragon equipment, anything related to Lord Gwyn, anything worn by females, and he seems to be friends with Havel the Rock.

Fucking perv
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>>163742662
And he's semi-eager to eat human shit too.
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>>163742702

>>163742702

>>163742702

>>163742702
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>>163740537
I parried Sully 3 times in a row on my first and second runs despite having absolutely horrible framerate issues in that fight.
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