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READY TO ROAST edition

>What's new?
Zul'jin (the Warcraft version, not the WoW version) to be released in a couple of weeks
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/heroes/zuljin/

>Which heroes should I buy?
Play all the heroes on free rotation and see who you like. Don't buy heroes just to get into ranked. It's not worth it.

>Where do I find you Odin-without-Master-Assassin-talenting faggots?
/join /vg/

>Current weekly brawl:
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20401307/heroes-brawl-of-the-week-the-mines-reopen-december-16-2016-12-15-2016

>Latest patch notes:
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20407399/heroes-of-the-storm-balance-update-december-20-2016-12-20-2016

>Official site, general news:
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en

>Hero rankings, various statistics, talent calculator:
http://www.hotslogs.com/Default
http://www.heroesfire.com/hots/talent-calculator

>For new players:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPk004vsjuE

>Tips and other useful resources:
http://heroesofthestorm.github.io/tips
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>>163630012
>Current weekly brawl
http://us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/20409786/heroes-brawl-of-the-week-december-23-2016-snow-brawl-12-22-2016
brawl in the OP is outdated, for whoever makes the next thread be sure to rectify this
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>>163630093
So a shitty Abathur clone.
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Since Dota 2 is unironically turning into HoTS I decided to pick up this game, is this F2P or do i have to pay for it?
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Reminder of reddit karma-whoring sell-out rats: https://www.reddit.com/r/heroesofthestorm/comments/4mh256/theres_a_guy_on_4chan_who_has_accurately_leaked/

https://www.reddit.com/user/SSJ5Gogetenks
>ponyfucker

They are in this thread RIGHT NOW!
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>>163630274
Free to play, but you need to unlock heroes either by paying ingame currency or real-life money.
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>>163630274
It's the LoL type of f2p.

You get one or two to start with, and some weekly poorfag handout rotations that go away if you don't own them. And 90% of the cosmetics are cash-only Basically like how Dota 2 has no free drops. All heroes are grindable with in-game gold though. Eventually.

Don't bother grinding heroes past lv 5 unless you're a maining autist.
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>>163630639

Actually lvl 9 is where the money is at.
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>>163630753

Yeah, but that's a sizable amount of time and effort, especially if you aren't stimmed.

>rip afk training u will be missed
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is the queue for ranked always so long
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How do I git gud as Kerrigan? Even when I land the combo, she seems to be able to do fuck all else to finish anyone off. I always get bursted down.

Also, I got placed in silver 2. How do I carry games?
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>>163632173

Most of my queues between Silver and Diamond were 1-3 minutes.
Placements were 8-10.
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Full-length brawls should favor heroes the player has that are at least level 5.
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>>163632535
Play with your team
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How's the current snow brawl? Some OP heroes/strategies?
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>>163632535
An easy way to carry games in lower leagues is waveclear and making sure lanes aren't going unsoaked. Make sure you still show up for objectives and stuff, though.
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finally....I can have my revengeance
*dives behind u*
pssst...nothing personel....kid
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>>163632790
>OP heroes/strategies?
A team that actually manages to coordinate
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>>163632790

Tracer is fucking BROKEN on that Brawl.

You can use the small snowballs to knock people through your gates and into towers, over terrain, into your team. Snowball also have next to no CD and you can fight around towers and spam murder people with them, especially the big ones. Big ones also do tons of siege damage.

Never pick Murky, he dies in one ball most of the time.
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>>163632535
>kerrigan

Don't play her. Too finicky.

>how carry

PvE until you have the mechanics to PvP.

>soak lanes
>clear minions
>siege structures
>try to avoid dying
>show up to objective, win/lose it then get back to lanes

Also, a few of the small things.

>focus on you
>don't argue with people, especially in-game
>try to avoid learning/playing too many heroes at once
>keep busy; try to always be doing something
>play easy heroes until you get a feel for things
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>last pick locks leoric when we have literally 0 cc
>we lose because we have literally 0 cc
>"sigh these teams -.-"
>"nobody asked me if i was ok tanking -.-"
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Why are Abathur players such self-important niggers?
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>>163635323

Just the nature of team-reliant Heroes, which Abathur has a reputation for being.
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>>163635323
Because they think they're accomplishing something, when in reality, the rest of the team ahs to carry the Abathur the majority of the time.
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>>163635323
Because they pay the most attention to what other people are doing and see you face checking bushes like an idiot and getting raped
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>>163635772
While accomplishing absolutely nothing themselves.
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>>163635809
That's why people pick Abathur even in "pro" games? To do nothing?
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>queue for snow brawl
>estimated wait time 72 seconds
>time in queue 310 seconds
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anyone wanna queue with me to do the nexus event?

I want to get the genji skin for overwatch; I'm level 40 tho.

NUDISTbeach#1444
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>>163635965
Does he or does he not just sit there like a shit worm 99% of the time and accomplish nothing. No soaking, no sieging, nothing.

He gets on the MVP listing for being a welfare nigger.
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>>163635965
The thing is, they have a team that will pick and play around them. Any other time outside of an environment like that, and Abathur is going to be nearly useless unless his teammates are going to be willing to step up and do something.

He "does nothing" in the sense that he essentially demands shit from your team otherwise he'll just be dead weight. A lot like Gazlowe and Nova to some extent, really. So he ends up being a detriment more often than not.
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>>163635965
>smurf placements, start off in low silver
>first pick hovering zeratul
>somebody questions it
>the pros always pick or ban him and hes s tier right now
>ends the game with the most deaths and less hero damage than the support

And there's a reason Abathur has had one of, if not the lowest winrate for such a long period of time.
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GET ME OUT OF THE ELO WHERE PEOPLE PICK CHROMIE INTO NOVA

GET ME OUT GET ME OUT GET ME OUT
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>>163635965
TEAM DEPENDENT

World of difference between a 5-stack pro team and a bunch of pubs.
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>>163635965
>what ten grandmaster players on coms do has anything to do with my silver solo queue

no
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>>163636820
>he is in silver
No wonder you hate Abathur
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>win one placement
>lose next three

oh well there's always next season
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>>163637329

No, I'm bouncing between high diamond and master because I'm shit.

Just like Abathur.
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>>163636550
OH WON'T YOU PLEASE GET ME OUT
YEAHYEAH
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>hurr durr abathur is bad
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>>163638559
>five quick match wins at an unspecified mmr

guys look he's viable
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>>163638742
new to game, but does ranked mmr determine quick match mmr as well?

ty
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>>163638742
>mmr

Hahahahaha. This game doesn't even use a proper MMR system. It goes by your team's overall average MMR. Which means (Not saying this DID happen, but that it COULD have happened) that the guy could have played against 1-2 good players, 3-4 bad players, or 4 good players and one bad which brought them down horribly, or his team was better than HE was, so they were fine on their own while he was free to do Abathur things, etc. Etc.
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>>163639000

Yes, trips
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>>163639000
I know QM MMR has an effect on HL MMR placements and what ranked you're placed at and whatnot, but I'm not unsure about the other way around.
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>>163638559
>GM here
I havent' seen an abathur in my last 20 games. Not even on Cursed Hollow which is a decent map for him.
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>>163639000

I think it's the other way around, not sure though.

>play 20-30 quick matches
>win slightly more than half
>placements, go 6-4
>diamond 3, 500 points

And another season of everything below Master meaning next to nothing.

>>163639040
>game doesn't have a proper mmr system

True. Bumped into a top 10 GM duo-queued with another GM on some level 28 vulture account. Quick Match is a bit of a coinflip.

I also won eight games in a row just farming up seasoned Marksman stacks on Jimmy.
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>>163634297
Did he at least go Tomb
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Murky buffs when
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Where the FUCK is Durotan????
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>>163641879
In my bed ;)
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>>163642070
why? is he tired?
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>>163641879
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>>163641567
never
fuck that dumb fish
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does blizzaed even have any decent cat characters?
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>>163644109
You're in that big ass cat vs dog thread, aren't you?
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>>163644109

Maybe we'll eventually get a Feral Druid.
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>>163633007
Is that THE worst Master skin the game? They just add so many unnecessary spikes its crazy.
They shouldve just made him his Frozen Throne counterpart, with the angry looking glaives and his wings.
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>>163644186

Yeah, and it definitely seems like one of the more popular ones. Sort if wish there were statistics to show the popularity of skins/mounts and their tints.
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>>163644186
Worst master imo goes to Diablo and Leoric. Diablo does not need a bunch of lame ass looking spikes and pads, and Leoric's majestic face and crown being covered up is a big fuck up.
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>finished eating dinner with the family
>opened gifts
>started playing as Auriel for the first time
>haven't enjoyed playing support until now

I really like Auriel. Is she good in the meta?
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>>163646013
hey you god damn degenerate it's the 24th it's not christmas yet
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>>163646013

Yes, she's S tier. Main only very good with a ranged Assassin on the team and countered against long range poke assassins/comps.
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>>163646485

It's the first night of Hanukkah what are you talking about?

>>163646634

Cool thanks. Been trying out different builds with her.
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>>163646013
Auriel is fucking great. I think right now the only "meh" supports are Uther, and Li Li. Auriel is one of the top support picks though, she's great.

I'd say maybe a little too great, the whole not having to rely on mana thing is fucked up. But maybe that's just me.
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>tfw 3-0 in placements right now
>severe anxiety about playing more because those 3 games were great and I don't want to be disappointed.
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>>163647095
>not knocking out as many games as u can til u lose 1

lmao you are fucking stupid
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>>1636470950
0-4 placement matches. Fuck this game's community of cucks and plebs.
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I'm so desperate for a pvp game, I'm even starting to enjoy this drivel...
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>>163652543
>when you play hots and wow arena so much you forget what fun feels like
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>>163652543

It's fun anon. Blizzard Smash Bros.
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>>163652701
meh, it'll pass the time until the next For Honor beta
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>>163652543
There's always Memewatch.
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>>163653283
can't aim

gotta play something where you don't shoot
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>>163653445
>gotta play something where you don't have to aim
There's always Memewatch.
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is he op yes or no be honest
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>>163653778

No.
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>master assassin + odin + stim

is this what war feels like
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>>163653653
you really have no idea how bad my aim is

I have 2.2k mmr on Overwatch
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>>163653952
Mei, Winston, Symmetra, Torb.
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>>163653952
>mmr
Hold you horses there buddy.
Do NOT even start comparing SR to MMR.
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>>163653778
>get back into the game because of him
>expect vanilla nostalgia
>all his stuff is based on cataclysm
>drop him like he's hot
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>>163653778
No but he's secretly more of a specialist than an assassin. Treat him as such.
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>>163653948
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=acdABwYJqks
this is what it feels like
pure ecstasy
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>>163653990
Only character of those I like is Torb, but playing the same hero all the time gets tiring and he's pretty shit on attack. I die often enough that I'm not gonna play a hero that doesn't appeal to me aesthetically. Plus there's always the sound effects and >chinese accent and >indian accent are a pretty big turnoff

>>163654037
I don't even care enough for you to explain me the difference
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>>163653778
Memes aside, yes. Molten Core and Lava Wave give him the best defense potential in the game; he can completely nullify some map objectives because of that. Even Sulfuras Smash is still insane. He's like a better Thrall.

Anybody who says he isn't OP just isn't taking Heroic Difficulty.
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>>163654087
This. He's also fucking more of a ranged Assassin than a melee. Q gives fuckall for healing unless specced into it, and even then it won't save you against all the burst in this game, so you generally just poke with your Meteor and give people your E until you can do anything.

UNLESS you spec for his W, then you just... do the same thing, but more effectively because your poke is now extremely great. They need to sort their shit out, and stop making melee assassins that need ranged capabilities to be viable.
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>>163653778
He tends to be very weak in the early game as he's a big, glowing target that everyone wants a piece of. Expect to be focused down more than your healer.
If you stick with it, he has many viable builds, but I recommend the regen talent at level 4 since that leads to a 25% damage reduction.
Late game Rag is an absolute beast, especially once you hit 20 and can get Heroic Difficulty.
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When should you switch to beast form as Greymane? I feel like I spend the vast majority of every match just shooting at range, and then using my E or ult for the last bit of damage to secure a kill, but I'm not sure if that's how he's mean to be played.
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>>163655692

To get the last hit. If you dive in too soon you're asking to die.
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>>163654729
I love any and all parodies of this scene
And yet, it is how the entirety of Warcraft started creating villains and its struggle war as a whole
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>>163655381
>Heroic Difficulty
Why does everyone love this talent?
The only reason I took it was the 50 second cooldown, which is insane on small maps.
Now at 70 seconds it doesn't feel all that meaningful since the damage increase was negligible, since you already pack enough punch to snipe low health heroes running away and anyone caught in your q is pretty much at the mercy of your team.
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>>163656643
It's basically the exclamation point on your victory. You can turn back a hard push from your enemies, or hop into one of the enemy keeps and help finish the core. It's a game-finisher.
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>>163656643

Submerge isn't good and the ult talents are shit.

Heroic Difficulty makes Ragnaros a true raid boss and will secure crucial teamfights and objectives, which the other talents at 20 won't.
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>>163654729
>I'm afk at fountain
lost it
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>>163656950
>iceblock that heals you for +60% isn't good
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>>163657034

>it's 40%
>it still isn't
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cum misha
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>>163656950
Submerge IS good, it's just more of an emergency pick for specific situations, USUALLY when you've built all Q or all E, you'll be in a real vulnerable spot trying to utilize those builds, and sometimes you really just need that stasis heal. Generally, Lava Wave's second charge is great in pretty much any situation but only if you feel you really need to ease up some pressure for your team, but otherwise, yeah, Heroic Difficulty is prrrooobably the more useful of them all.

They really did great with Rag's talents, they're nice and diverse. It's just his base numbers I have an issue with. Meteor is too good while I feel like Q and E builds are lacking in comparison.
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High King's Quest or Lion's Maw for Arms Varian?
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>>163657275
>They really did great with Rag's talents
Eh, they leave me wishing there were a couple more talents for Molten Core.
Hell, maybe even a full talent build for Molten Core so you could build him as a raid boss.
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Cho'Gall is good or bad hero?
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>>163657824
Here's a handy flowchart:

>Does the enemy team have %HP damage
>Yes: Good hero
>No: Shit hero
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>>163657757
I would have loved that too, but at the same time, he is so fucking easy to break out of MC, I feel it would have just ended up being as situational as like an E build, once people actually got used to Rag that is.
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>>163657902
Also

>Will you and your friend keep in mind that you are two people in one body, and are essentially the spine of the team and are willing to play accordingly
>Yes: Good hero
>No: Don't fucking play Cho'gall you fucking assholes
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>>163657902
I feel like you got that backwards
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>>163657824

>susceptable to CC
>extremely susceptable to % health damage
>fewer bodies, reduced map presence
>deaths twice as punishing

It's mostly that he's easy to draft against and usually easy to deal with.

Different case in Quick Match or Unranked where you've got two people on comms on a very poke-heavy hero playing against 5 pubs without sustain.
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>>163657824
Are Tychus and Leoric banned?
If yes, then he can be good.
If no, you're fucked.
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>>163658068
I did.
I guess this is my curse for being up at 5am on Christmas.
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>>163644342
>not liking spikey barney and buckethead
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>>163658245
>5am
7:30 am where I am casual scrub

insomnia is one hell of a drug
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Merry Christmas you bronzie bastards. I hope you guys have a really nice day.
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>You thought you were gonna run away from me? Nah, just gonna jump kick to you and splash keg to slow you for 40% infinitely.
>You thought you could hit me with some big attack? Nah, I'll just sit here and chug while I wait for my teammates to come over and fuck your ass.
>You thought I was almost dead? Nah, now I've got three times as much health.
Chen is fun.
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>>163659224
Right back at you and everyone else here.
Hopefully Christmas will get all of us a small win streak to go a rank up.
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>Lose because of absolutely moronic teammates throwing shit for no reason
>Still get MVP in the end

Such a bittersweet moment. The loss hurts, but in the end it's a great way of saying "You people are fucking idiots." without having to actually say anything.
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dont mind me.
just laying down my little earthquake to completely bumrush your backline while rehgar gives a short motivational speech.
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>>163668501
This combo is retardedly broken.
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>>163668501
What?
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>>163668501
>team clumped around keep trying to defend it
>suddenly Graviton polymorph
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>tfw u find a record that needs correcting
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Should I buy Gul'dan or Samuro?
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>>163674301
Guldank can GREENED people better with his Horrify and Fel Flames.
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met my first role player today.

she was kinda cute and her Tracer was pretty good.
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>>163675658
>Gold 1
>good Tracer
Haha! Good yoke there my fellow, any other amusing tales you want to share with us?
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>>163644186
I think it's one of the best
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>>163654087
I was actually surprised to find out he isn't a spec
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>>163676106
she said she started off at bronze 3, so considering that she's been winning like 20 games in a row i'd say she's gotten quite good at tracer.
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>win 3 games quest
>queue up
>my team is clearly shit
Reroll quests when? I don't want this cursed shit quest on my list and I'm not playing vs AI
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>almost 400 games on Abathur
>only level 18
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>>163659224
Morgan?
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>>163675658
>559 games as tracer
Holy fuck
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>>163674428
>Playing Shit Worm
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Knock-backs are so ugly in this game. Frequently as Diablo and Auriel when you knock an enemy into an object, instead of being stunned they'll just slide around/along the object, much like a Varian sliding to charge.

I've even seen knock-back of Auriel getting body-blocked by an ally (ally of Auriel) despite being very close to the wall.
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>>163675658
probably better than anyone that practically pve'd to diamond or played a joke pinata character like johanna to master.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w14beXiD4Cg
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>>163678461
That's not me. Take a list at the selectable heroes and guess who I am.

We also won, Fury Varian was super-hatted and the memeslug thankfully picked evolution.
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>>163680752
Waifu angel? Because if so, patrician taste.
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>this is the site the developers get most of the feedback from
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>>163681464
>The most white dude post I've seen on reddit
I didn't realize that being educated made you a white man, that's some blithe ignorance from either a thin-skinned liberal faggot or a negro.
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>>163681729
i wonder if they even realize that they're being racist
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>>163681729
>either a thin-skinned liberal faggot or a negro
try queer and trans furryrua jacobs
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>>163682139
>rua jacobs
thats my captcha 4 chan what are you doing
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>>163682101
>realize
that requires some ounce of thinking and active engagement with what you say or type

these people, who've been protected and censored have none of that
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>lose a brawl because my team had 0 map awareness whatsoever and went all mid
>against ragnaros
>all the enemy team did all game was have one person splitpush the sidelanes and have ragnaros lava wave down mid
I was the only person on the team who so much as stepped into a sidelane, and thats no exaggeration.
I'm never playing a Brawl again, jesus fucking christ.
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>>163677290
And then you get one that rewards only 200g and complain anyways
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>>163630012
need a light?
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What do people mean by "the meta"?
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>>163683187
GOOSE STATUS:
COOKED

>>163683584
Ban Rag
Pick Malf, get a Jo/ETC/Mura
Mix and match from various assassins depending on how the enemy comp is shaping up.
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>>163683584
It basically means the good characters in games like this. In other games it can mean other things.
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>>163683691
>ban rag
Only on certain maps, otherwise Thrall and Diablo are the go-tos.
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>>163683691
>not banning diablo
>not picking diablo
>picking jo
>not advising people to get good on dehaka
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>>163684137
I'm still playing like game like it's October
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What is /hotsg/ opinion on Cho-Gall?

I have some friends who will play them well on quickplay but I know the overall view is pretty negative.
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>>163684578
It's fun with friends.
Like friend-friends, not people who spend time with you who get salty about the game over your jolly co-operation.
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hi its yule (also known as christmas to the jews and desert dwellers) so u should unsilence me lol ho hho ho mery xmas where is ur xmas spirit haha :-)
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>>163684578
>>163684683
>have a lot of fun as cho
>my friend can't get the hang of how hard I go and sprints at the wrong times
He also fucks up Rune Bomb a lot too but I don't mind since that's hardly ever a factor in our losses.

I love going balls to the wall as a tank, and Cho lets you do all that with twice as much survivability and twice as many escape/utility options.
And have you ever been sick and tired of your dps not following you in?
WELL NOT ANYMORE
BECAUSE THAT FUCK IS STAPLED TO YOUR GOD DAMN BACK
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TIME FOR HYPOTHETICALS
You just queued into Quick match to finish up a quest real quick, the enemy team is a good Cho'Gall comp and your pub heroes are ill equipped to deal with it.
However it IS quick match so you might be able to pull through by the skin of your teeth.

Only one person on the enemy team is worth their salt and it's one of the ogres.
Which head do you prefer is the grandmaster and the other to be his diamondshiter friend?
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>>163683017
>win 3 games
>600 gold
You will gladly do this.

>play 3 games
>1000 gold
This is somehow hell to you?
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>>163685848
>play 3 games
>1000 gold

>play 50 games with one hero
>1250 gold
Something ain't right here.
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>>163685787
Cho gets himself and Gall killed if he's bad, and secures kills like mad if he isn't.
Gall will just miss a few skillshots that have no impact on any resource and all have a very low cooldown, resulting at most in a minor DPS loss.
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>>163685952
It's about the journey. Why would you play 50 games with a character if you don't enjoy them?
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Does knocking down side walls give XP or is it pointless?
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>>163686219

Removes lane vision for enemy team.
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>>163686219
>>163686347
Also not recommended if you got people with pathing dependent abilities like Dibbles, Auriel, Tassadar and kind of rag.
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>>163686505
It's also useful as an escape for heroes with enemy-targeted gapclosers like diablo, illidan, and chen.
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>>163686671
Don't forget it's free health for people that have lifegain aa shit.
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>>163682101
They more than likely don't, because it's only racism if it's a white person saying that to literally any other race. I mean shit, Redditors think Islam is a race.
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Which slut is next for HotS?
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>>163687969
I believe we already discussed that.
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>>163656643
> 50% damage increase
> neglible
> on SS
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>>163688119
>Blizzard ever adding Valeera
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>>163688119
I mean
OTHER
SLUT
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>>163689003
>blizzard ever adding an amalgamation of the ETC band
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>>163689262
She's not even an interesting character. The only reason why she'd be added is because she's the one Blood Elf who's actually an ally of Varian's as well as occasional lover
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>>163689506
>Varian's getting hot BELF pussy
>and has tapped his share of thicc human girls
>meanwhile you'd be lucky to get a pity fuck from a gnoll
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>>163689506
That's interesting enough, I can name plenty characters multitudes blander than her in the game.
Don't forget she's a portrait in HS as well.
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>>163689698
She's a waste of a portrait given that Edwin Van Cleef fucking existed long before she did.
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>>163690541
>Greetings Traveller.
>LAPDOGS
>ALL OF YOU
Would never get old.
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>>163688119
>another literally who from warcraft
yeah no thanks
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>>163690980
Rehgar was a literal who from that comic.
Varian is from that comic.
Broll is from that comic and got a skin.

The only one that's missing is Valeera. And she is NO literal who. She's a bonafide Hearthstone character :D
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I am so fucking sick and tired of meme slug pickers in QM. You accomplish nothing, you are nothing. Fuck off.
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>>163691371
Isnt Varian... yknow... the fucking king of Stormwind? His story mightve been from a comic but he isnt a literal who.
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>>163691540
>keep winning teamfights but my team is too dumb to manage to push
>slug sneaks our keeps
>have to clear waves before going to fight since everyone else on our team is ignoring our core being pushed in from all sides
>eventually lose to minions even though we won every objective
It happens maybe 1 out of 50 abathur games but god damn it is painful
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>>163691704
I literally just quit the game when I saw my team comp was another Abathur, Sylvanas, Jaina, Ragnaros, and Varian. No fucking game is worth that shitty of a team comp, especially because Abathur is basically the HotS equivalent of a welfare leeching nigger.
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>>163691617
That's why I didn't say he is a literal who? I'm just listing that all the characters have some sort of representation in HotS so far, except Valeera.
And she's a Hearthstone favorite, so it'd make sense to include her.

Hopefully she'll be OP and fun! Cause she kinda sucks in Hearthstone right now, but I'm positive Blizz wouldn't shit on her in another game, too :D
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>>163691924
Oh, I see.
I hear Miracle Rogue is actually pretty okay now though. People are just saying that its pretty much Hunter and Paladin that are bad right now, but at least theres Buffadin.
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>>163644186
I cannot agree more, what i think they should have done:
- remove lame horn helmet, shoulderpads.
- give him less flimsy pants with illidari themed sash.
- illidari theme hair ribbon.
- better glowing tats.
- different colors for glaives.

i am not sure about the ekstra spikt glaive add-on, it's kinda cool, but also kinda unnecessary.
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>>163692035
>pretty okay now though
Miracle Rogue has always been good, it just couldn't compete with Shaman.
Paladin was shit immediately before secrets and was even worse right after they cycled it out, it has N'zoth and Buff which are both fun to play but by no means viable.
Hunter has been in every single fucking meta since the inception of the game, it's about god damn time you can't spam skill command to rank 5

I love Hearthstone but the game is a grind and you get burned out easily on it.
Team 5 has no fucking clue what they're doing
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>>163691924
>She's a Hearthstone favorite
>When people only pick her to play Rogue, not because it's Valeera Sanguinar
I guarantee that if people had a choice between her, Moroes, Vanessa/Edwin Van Cleef or even Mathias Shaw they'd choose them over her.

Just like people tend to pick Tyrande over that faggot Anduin, just like people prefer Uther over Lady Liadrin because Michael McConnohie is still the best fucking voice actor at Blizzard.
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>>163692552
>Moroes
But he's already in the game :)
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>>163692706
I'm talking about undead Moroes you obtuse fuck. The one that actually still lives at Karazhan.
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>lack of hood shows off her hair
>bigger tits maybe?
-
>no midriff
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>>163694898
China dress Jain bestest Jaina.
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>>163694898
I want to impregnate Jaina so bad with those hips.
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how many quickmemes will I fuck up before I git gud with Medivh?
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Any Memeian players here? Been going smash every game 'till recently. Protection is surprisingly good.
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>>163695038
>that anatomy
JUST
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>>163697074
It's fanart. Can't expect much from it.
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>>163696778
too many
you also wont get any better
stop before its too late
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>tfw you start crying irl when you play non-complex shit heroes like Raynor, Malfurion, Illidan and Nova
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>>163698030
I recently grinded Raynor to 5 to get it over with and I swear playing that hero just saps your mental abilities
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>decide to stop worrying about picks/counterpicks and just lock in jimmy every game
>biggest win streak I've had in ages

feels comfy to just practice the basics again

on what feels like a slightly busted hero
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>>163698212
>Grinded Raynor to 5
Wow anon, you got a hero to level 5? You poor thing. What'd that take, 3 games?
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>>163698564
do you know how long 3 games is in Raynor years?
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>>163698212
>having the attention span of a gnat
condolences
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>>163698650
not much to think about when playing such basic heroes
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>>163698030
>shit heroes like Raynor, Malfurion
Does not compute.
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>>163698413

>Feels like a slightly busted hero

He's very busted, bugged infact, with any talents that increase his AA damage also increasing the damage of his Hyperion ultimate, leading to scenarios where a single ult can take down a keep and its tower, while simultaneously holding off the enemy team

One ult, one keep, on an ultra long range assassin with a survival ability as baseline and an ability that can both boost minion waves and mercenaries for even more siege potential or give your team a little boost in teamfights to go with the MASSIVE boost that your AA boosted Hyperion will be able to give

If played remotely well he's capable of topping both kills, assists, hero damage, siege damage AND healing if you don't have a healer on your team

He shouldn't be good, but the bug has currently boosted his potential significantly
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>>163699138
Even without the Hyperion bug he'd be fairly strong in the current meta as the best Diablo killer not named Tychus (while having better Bloodlust synergy than Tychus).
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>Dropping Sulfuras on fleeing people's heads for 1.5k damage when Heroic Mode Ragnaros
It makes me giddy. Tychus better move the fuck over and get a different ult because Odin is nothing compared to Molten Core
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I'm here to help!
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>>163702796

>our Diamond Jaina finds a way to die five times in the first five minutes
>master skin
>jaina most played hero
>jaina portrait
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>no one video for zuljin tints and warbear
>Not coming out today or tomorrow for sure

Suffering
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>>163703371
>tfw probably a whole week until we get to hear troll god's voice
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>>163699783
Even with Big Red Button? I haven't had a chance to face a Rag with BRB or been Rag against a Tychus who got BRB.
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>>163630012
Is anyone here from the Overwatch Oni Genji cross promotion thing?
I know a lot of people came in through that but are any of them here?
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>>163703087
whats wrong with liking it rough?
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>>163699138
his hyperion bug is blown out of proportion.
also hyperion deals no damage while raynor is blinded.
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>>163704790
After doing a brief test to see what BRB does, I can say Rag is still better in pretty much all respects. Meteor Shower just shits damage at 20, Explosive Rune does more damage than the nuke, and the Q is just fight winning because its a nigh unavoidable stun if theyre near you.
Odin's only advantage is you can move, which doesnt matter with the range Molten Core gives you, and it maybe lasts a little bit longer.
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>>163706113
For reference, the nuke was doing about 1k damage here on a 7 sec cd, but it also has a longer delay and is much more telegraphed.
Meteor shower does 900 per meteor, and Sulfuras Smash did 3000 at lvl 30.
Die insect indeed.
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>TFW queue dodging meme slug players in QM
Feels pretty good.
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I didn't like Artanis at all before he got reworked. In fact him and Cho'gall were the only two warriors I didn't own. I felt like had zero real CC and no playmaking potential, and the whole shield thing was pretty boring too.

How is he now?
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>>163708571
Bit more damage. Less survivability. 100x hooking potential. He requires a brain to play now. Pretty much a better Stitches.
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>>163708571
>I didn't like being unable to die
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>>163708571
From what Ive experienced fighting Artanis, what >>163708704 said. Hes got great sticking potential, is tanky enough to just start diving people, does good damage, and his dash prism combo is crazy to fight against because you dont even see the prism, you just see yourself suddenly fly backwards into the enemy team. He just cant 1v5 anymore.
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>playing the most toxic annoying team tilting murk i can on christmas
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>player's name is in full caps
>plays melee burst assassin
>goes full aggro every time he sees the enemy
>ends up 20 deaths at the end of the game
>"wtf retard team never followup"

every fucking time.
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>>163630012
OP is lacking a "previous thread" addition, remember to include it in the next thread
>>163466832
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>>163709530
>Illidan, Thrall, Valla, Kerrigan, Artanis, Uther and Cho'gall players

Worst fucking playerbsses
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Stimpacks sure make leveling a lot less painful.
I feel like they designed the exp gain to this level and then the top jews came in and said halve it and add a stimpack
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>>163708571
I liked him more before the rework, only change i actually like is the dash+relocate combo
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>>163709809
pure autism
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>>163711136
They're making the F2P model better soon (tm) So XP requirements past level (hero) 8 are lower.
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>>163711835
that's me the OP
just posting it as a reminder to the person who makes the next thread because I forgot to include it in this one
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>>163711136
People say shit like this, but I really don't think 10-10 is that bad. 9 feels a little sluggish, but it isn't so bad. Anything beyond 10 is terrible though. Can't wait for the new system.
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who should i buy for HL
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>>163712895

Brightwing and Tychus.
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>>163712187
But will the rewards get any better? Also didn't they say the max level would go up too?

>>163712263
I got 400 games with Abathur with maybe 30 of those with a stimpack, about to hit level 19. Reward for level 20 is just 2k gold
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>first win of the day
>12 minute steamroll
>get fuck all extra xp
Thanks Blizz
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>>163714301

>hammer in Vs. AI with AI teammates
>towers of doom
>capture two altars then just AFK on third in siege mode
>come back an hour late

had a two hour game on cursed hollow doing a similar thing just on my core after our keeps were all dead
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>>163713008
there really should be something for level 20, like a unique border for potrait or some shit.
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What is the point of Xul now that Ragnaros exists? Rag is objectively better in almost every metric.
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>>163714915
I've always liked the idea of unlocking a "Master tint" for all skins of that hero. Just a 4th variation that's a bit more higher quality, as most skin's 2nd and 3rd tints tent to just be 2 colors primarily or something.
Also, Ragnaros instantly became another favorite of mine, however I have to make the criticism that... well, he's an Elemental Lord, and he's squishy as fucking shit. I would imagine him to be much more durable than that. Even in boss form, he's taken down incredibly easy, what the fuck?
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>>163715252
Xul has a root
Xul can pretty much take half the health off an entire team with poison nova
Xul is generally just tankier than Rag and has more survivability and cc
His boomerang scythe thing is worse than empower sulfuras though
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So the HotS team said during Blizzcon that they might want to experience with a Hero Push gamemode for the game, but how can they really accomplish that when Hero Push games rely on leveling for skills, items, and managing your own units?
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>>163715252
More teamfight control with Skeles, Poison, and ATK speed slow, his survivability is much better than Rag's.

He's also a Necromancer, and as great as Ragnaros is, he's no Necromancer.

But in any case, you don't pick Xul for the damage, you pick him for the pushing and teamfight control.

So, Classic Xul when?
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>>163715357
>Implying a regular boss isnt piss easy in WoW, so Rag's regular Molten Core would have shit defense
He can only start to take a hit in Heroic Mode because thats when he actually gets tough
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>>163715502
>hero push game mode

What's this?

Forgive my potential retardation.
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>>163714301
>lose a 20min game
>get same amount of exp
Can they just make it a fixed amount of like 200k extra exp
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I've got 90k gold saved up. Which heroes are purely the most fun to play? I don't really mind which role.
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>>163716161

It wouldn't hurt knowing which heroes you already own, especially since that might make it easier to make recommendations off preferences.
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>>163716161
Abathur when your team isn't retarded
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>>163715821
It comes in a few different forms, but its a game mode where you control a hero and have a spawning building. You start out with a generic unit, but then can use gold or resources to upgrade them, upgrade the building, and change the units. They'll push down a lane and then fight other people who have the same setup. The idea is to win the push and then overwhelm the enemy to the point where you win. Its kindof one of the less popular map archetypes from Warcraft 3, but I dont know how they fared in SC or SC2. Its like the opposite of a Hero Defense, unless youre losing, in which case it becomes a Hero Defense. Usually you have an ally in this, and its usually 2v2v2v2.
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>>163715413
Those rare moments, where you get to hit the entire enemy team with nova, are also moments where you will get absolutely raped by the enemy team in seconds, unless you play against potatoes.
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>>163716542
This webm reminds me
Archimonde when?
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>>163716463
I own all the f2p heroes other than Gul'dan and Varian.
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>tfw your team caps literally 0 merc camps when you play a hero who can't solo merc camps
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>>163716869

I'd almost recommend Gul'dan, honestly.

>fun heroes

Personal preference, but I'm going to say Chen, Murky, Rehgar and Leoric.

At this point you're probably just best off buying whatever's been discounting recently, or rather just ones that aren't in danger of being discounted in the near future.

>leoric
>rexxar
>johanna
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>play tank varian
>cocky melee assassin tries to kill pur backline
>hit him with that charge stun+taunt combo
>faggot is stunlocked for 2.25 seconds
>team kills him while he's taunted

pretty fun
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>>163715567
I feel so sorry for you, knowing that it will never happen yet you still keep hoping.
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>>163717752
>play tank varian


So you mean to tell us you suck?
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>>163718054
>picking twin memes
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>>163718054
Prot' is actually good. Depends on team-comp etc of course. But if your team has some good follow-up, it's very good.

>taunt
>stun
>resistance banner
>dmg reduc' shout
Literally lamo at your enemies.
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>>163630012
tell me why Guldan is shit

I wreck face with him
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>>163719380

He isn't, though.
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>>163719496
cool

he's basically a WoW warlock and I was the best WoW warlock there was in vanilla
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Why are people praising the community of hots? its just as toxic as all the other moba's
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>>163719842

I don't know, actually. Being the underdog of the genre probably doesn't help, though.

Criticisms against the game are taken almost personally, even if it's regarding, like, the shitty reconnect system.
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>>163719842
>toxic
i hope you use that made up term ironically and this is just a shitpost

dont disappoint me
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>>163720124
>had a guy in draft say he'd afk or feed if anybody was toxic
>he gave first blood by facechecking the bush of death like a retard
>somebody said lol
>somebody pinged his body
>somebody pinged him on spawn
>fuck this community
>proceeded to run into towers for the rest of the game

Then again, I've seen similar things in League and WoW. People are weird.
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>>163718054
Tank varian is the most frustrating shit to go up against because you have to be aware of this nigger that can go divine shield on you for more than 3 seconds and can force your frontline to move the fuck away and be swiftly raped by their dps.
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>>163720301
>>somebody pinged him on spawn
OH NO

NOT PINGING HIM ON SPAWN

THE HUMANITY
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>>163719842
Because the League and OW shitters are moving to hots now filling it with cancer and "toxicity", wouldn't be surprised if some doto players moved in too
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>>163720301
>People are weird
took you 20+ years
congrats
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>tfw level 12 with the memeslug
Why is he so fun? Theres nothing better than use your teammate as bait and then clone them and turn the fight into a 2v1 and get a free kill + free lane push
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>>163720559

I wish we had an emote wheel, or missing ping.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mazguS7TJ8

or All Chat
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>tfw you're the reason your team lost
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Is gazlowe good if I want to break structures and ignore the other players?
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>>163721302
yah
although prepare to be hated by everyone on your team
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>>163721302
Yes, and at 20 you can pick the robo talent that makes you destroy anyone in a duel with a little footwork.
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>>163721302

Yeah, he's one of the best. Just take Robo at 10.
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>>163721387
>Team
What is that? I only break enemy structures.
What is best build?
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>>163721475
From what I've been playing with, extra tnt, quest for turret uptime, slow bullets, robo-goblin, extra turret, extra turret damage or extra xplodium charge and mechalord.
Wiggle around your turrets before trying to engage in a fight so you get the wind-up damage.
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>Bought Samuro on the 19th of December
>went from Bronze to Platinum
I don't even usually play melee assassins. My win streak isn't over yet, people in Plat are still too fucking retarded to check camps when I'm missing from lanes.
>first temple phase is over on Sky Temple
>immediately go do the enemy camp
>no one ever checks it
>shortly before 2nd temple phase is up, bruisers destroy the small tower next to the enemy fort before the retardos react to it
>they go kill the bruisers even though it's too early game for the camp to destroy the fort by themselves
>they lose the 2nd temple phase
this is my favorite thing
>>
>MFW playing Jaina
>MFW this faggot Diablo on my team can't even headbutt people into walls, or use his overpower
>Somehow it's my fault we lose teamfights because dumbass can't peel against Chromie, Li-Ming, or Thrall
It's not fucking rocket science trying to single somebody out as Diablo, fuck's sake.
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>>163722142
forgot pic
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Where I'm supposed to lane gaz?
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>>163716746
Archimonde, Mannaroth, Tichondrius need to be released fucking immediately.

I want nothing more than a Mannaroth MT
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>>163723005

Probably wherever you're least likely to get bullied out of lanes.
>>
What's up with all of the beaners and why do they all suck?
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>>163716161
Azmodan is pretty fun
>>
reminder that if you cant play melee assassins or tanks you're a shitter
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>>163724004
>Anub'arak is my favorite WC3 char
>He's shit
reeee
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>>163724109
>you're shit
have you considered fixing that?
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>>163724154
he's right
anub'arak is trash
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>>163724154
>Low as fuck winrate
>Not shit
Haven't played since 2 years ago or so
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>>163724109
>anub is shit
>can solo chen even with his out of jail ult
???
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>>163724693
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>>163724693
don't mind me just dumping some cringe
>diablo didn't die, we killed stitches too
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>>163723195
>I COME FROM THE DARKNESS OF THE PIT
>You know what burns my ass? A flame about this high.
I hope they give him a line to expand on the relationship he had in Jaina in the morning
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>just quick matches on NA
>the blue team won the game
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>>163726175

holy god that must be some kind of record
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>>163726175
The saddest thing about this webm is that blue kael is just as clueless about living bomb as the rest of his team.
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I have a free Jaina Proudmoor if anyone wants her
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>>163726624
I have her, but I have a friend that doesn't. if you want, mail her at bijoue400@gmail
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>>163726175
>That OH MY GOD at the end
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>>163726797
Will do
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Is Leoric bad?
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>>163726957

Nope, and I only imagine he's stronger now that Dibbles/Chadhaka are probably in every game.
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>>163705071
I am, why?
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>>163726957
Only in QM, because he can't protect shit alone, so you pray you get matched with another Warrior.
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>>163726797
got it, thanks
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>>163727441
Why are there so few quality[/spolier] lewds for this game?
Feels bad.
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>>163726797
Let your friend know that I sent it
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>>163728303
Thanks for the gold!

Edit: Wow, front page!
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>>163729014
This is actually for real. I really did just give a total stranger a free code for this game
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>>163727867
Have you tried searching for generic WoW porn?
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This is Jimmy
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>have 11k gold
>wat do
>think nova might be fun
>buy her
>she's fun
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>>163729941
he's a giant faggot
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>>163731405
In the lore or in the gameplay?
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>It's a "HotS takes the thought away from players by lighting up the map and tricking people into thinking they need to actually go to it" episode

>HotS will never contain anything more than the lowest common denominator because the only people that realize they can just walk in the front door and end the game instead of going to this particular objective are players from other mobas

>Everyone from other mobas moves on after fucking around for a week or two
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>No one to party with.
>Friends have it done.
>Can only play late night/early morning.
>No one in the looking for group shit

I just want my shit.
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How do I into assassin?
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>>163733617
How do you not?

Just kill heroes famalamalama
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>>163732667
Can confirm.
It's still something fun to occasionally check back on to see the most recent hero, map or idea, though.

>>163733617
>raynor
>don't die
>right-click things
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>>163733649
>>163733716
I just never score as many role points as I do with other types.
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>>163733789
what
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>>163733789
Points are irrelevant and trick people into thinking they're important.

You can sit in a lane all game and have most XP/siege damage/0 deaths, think you're the shit, and still actually be the most worthless piece of trash in the match.

i.e. Sylvanas players that don't come from another moba and realize what she's actually useful for.
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>>163734238
teach me how to sylvanas senpai
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>>163733603
Post b.net
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I don't understand; why would I ever take March of the Black King over Entomb?
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>>163733603
I just finished my shit at 4:30am with a group of 4 other people all staying up till the same late night hours
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>>163735465
Yeah, why would you.
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What is the best situational talent and why is it Superstition?

>Get wrecked levels 1-9 trying to get voodoo stacks up.
>Look at talents level 10 and see that the only person on a team of Artanis, Alarak, Zarya, Sylvanas, and Ragnaros that went autoattack damage is Artanis.
>Artanis continues to target me with Purity Beam every time it's off cooldown.
>Ragnaros thinks that I care that I'm standing in Lava Wave while healing 14% health/mana from a minion wave.
>Sylvanas's thinks I give a shit about withering fire and dagger as I blast her in the butt with five toads.
>Zarya went grenade build because STRONGEEST WOMON oh shit better run away.

Fuck you, the gingerbread man is in town. Nevermind that I use the master skin with a cyberspider mount.
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>>163737757
I really want GingerNazeebo skin but I don't want to pay 20+ bucks for it.
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>>163737757
Situational talent my ass, Superstition is good the majority of the time because HotS is all about burst damage and it's all ability damage.
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>>163733617
Play this guy. >>163737757
Toad build if you can handle it
(E -> passive upgrade of choice, though I prefer option 3 most of the time -> E -> ult of choice, usually garg -> superstition for nuke heavy games, ice block for melee heavy games, resistant toads for mix -> Soul Harvest or Ring of Poison -> Vile Infection

or Spider Build
Q -> Q -> Q -> Ult -> Defensive ability -> Q -> upgrade of choice, though stacking voodoo with spiderganker sucks and Fury/ult upgrade might be better.

Congratulations, you are now a late game assassin instead of a specialist.
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>>163726175
This type of shit is why I take infinite spread at 20, even if I'm going Q build.
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>>163737898
Mostly, until you realize Samuro and the occasional smart Nova/Zeratul exist and are extremely frequently chosen.
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>>163737757
>while healing 14% health/mana from a minion wave.
Wrong talent, bucko.
Take the one that doubles your voodoo bonuses.
>five toads
Nevermind you're a toadshitter.
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>>163726175
Typical BNet users standing in fire.

Actual news at 11.
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>no missing ping

z
z
z

danger ping just isn't the same
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>>163738187
>Acknowledge "Toadshitting" makes you a punching bag early game.
>Hitting 40 Pandemic stacks makes the enemy team eat shit.

You're not doctoring hard enough, and you haven't lived until you've nuked a level 20 Diablo to imminent death point blank before even throwing your spiders or zombos out.
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My biggest problem with toads is how large the window for recovery is, feels like they've got too much time to heal up or get a shield or whatever.
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>>163737915
Or the real nigga Naz build
>Thing of the Deep
>Big Voodoo (you're playin for level 20 boy or you pick a hero not named Nazeebo) (Blood Ritual is alright situationally if you badly need the sustain)
>Dead Rush
>Garg (bliz pls buff spirit)
>Superstition most of the time, Guardian Toads if they have an AAer you're scared of, Ice Block if they have an AAer you're scared of and a big dick skill you want to mitigate (i.e. The Hunt) (generally go toads/superstition though)
>Ring of Poison
>Vile Infection
Play to stall the game out to 20 (although don't gimp your team doing this), try and keep your stacks going, and become one of the strongest heroes in the game with your massive level 20 power spike.

Git fucking good at landing Zombies and remember that you can get a lot of value out of NOT trapping opponents inside too by placing it in an escape route. Of if you're feeling really fucking pro, try and get an Auriel/Diablo to stun someone on it. It is still a wall after all.

With Superstition/Guardian Toads and Big Voodoo, Naz is really fucking tanky and people usually don't realize it.
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>tfw dota 2 turned into LoL 2

How is Hots, lads?
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>>163739081
A fun game if you treat it as such, so don't you fucking dare bring shitty DOTA or LoL attitude in here.
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>>163739081
It's less complex than Dota and more """casual fun""" without having the retardedly limited hero design that League has.

Current meta isn't too bad either outside of Diablo/Thrall/Dehaka.
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Even if the other mobas are more popular and are more complex than HotS, take respite in knowing that none of them have a character as fun as Ragnaros. Instantly killing someone with Sulfuras Smash when theyre above 80% hp with Heroic Molten Core is a thing of beauty.
Techies comes close, but its more of a manic happiness, and he falls off a bit in the lategame.
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I love Sylvanass!
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>Start weekend as Silver 3
>End as Close to Demotion Bronze 5

Is there anything I can do?

Can I submit a ticket to B.net and force them to reset my season due to Chrismtas vacation shitters?
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>>163742653
But anon, you are the shitter.
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>forcing the specialist to solo lane
such is life in golden shit league
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>>163743457
>he can't solo lane as a specialist
t. Bronze
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I've been watching horsepants too much.
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>>163744781
Also always remember to protect your bots!
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>>163744837
>the Nova doesn't even bother chasing her target and lets him walk away even though nobody's going to stop her
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>>163745065
I mean, yeah she was retarded, but she still wouldn't have gotten the kill if she chased. Her slow had worn off and rehgar had wolf up and was out of her range already, so she wasn't catching up to him.

If she had been stutter stepping from the start, though, she probably would've gotten the kill. She would've died right after, though. A full health artanis and varian were right there in range.
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>>163745065
If anyone asked, I'd assume the Nova was the bot that game
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>>163720645
Had some players complaining of having no ss holy shit so it's true.
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>>163746249
What is SS?
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>>163746317
schutzstaffel

I'd be mad too about no SS.
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>>163746317
stay safe
ss mid implies "stay safe, mid's missing"
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>>163746765
Oh, so like a fucking danger ping?
Christ, what the hell is the problem then? Just ping Danger to your squishier teammates in side lanes.
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>>163747163
nowadays it's pretty useless but to be fair it originated from the days of wc3 so they didn't really have a choice
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>>163746584
We'll get it one day.
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>>163706075
>his hyperion bug is blown out of proportion
Very much this.
Seasoned Marksman and Lifesteal are the only ones that apply to Hyperion, and the lifesteal is only applied to the damage dealt by the seasoned marksmasn (a maximum of 40) meaning that you'll only be gaining 1 health per shot, so it does almost nothing.
Executioner also does nothing for the baseline damage, but it might increase the 40 damage dealt by SM
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Hyperion also seems to get Focused Attack.
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holy heck this brawl is fun
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I bought Sylvanas recently and I have absolutely no clue how to play with her. Any basic tipps to get me started?
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>>163749016
>bought a hero
>no idea about them
sasuga
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>>163747278
Doesn't GK apply to it too?
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>>163730154
>think Medivh might be fun
>buy him
>he's fun

except when people don't USE MY FUCKING PORTALS JESUS H CHRIST
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>>163749587
>wonder if Anub is still fun
>he's great
>but no one follows up on stuns or web
>don't have the sustain/damage to be a real threat by myself
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>>163750837
>take web as anub
>pub retard cries that i didn't take meme swarm
epic

>play as 5
>take web
>make fights into a 4v5 instantly and win every time
makes you wonder
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>>163749016

Think of her as an assassin with a hard group pushing potential. I see many people thinking of her as a solo laner but she's far from it.

Her Q is decent burst but her auto attacks kinda suck, and once you pick Cold Embrace at 16 make sure to target the enemy your team is focusing on with your W, or the closest one to you if you're alone so you use your Q burst better.
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>>163731405
Time to man up.
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Dead thread.

Fucking normies celebrating Christmas.
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>introduce friend to hots to play the new hero league
>come up with idea to only play Chogall during hero league
>win 9 out 10 games
>get placed in diamond 3

I'm pretty sure we could have went 10 wins during placements but some asshole in our queue first forgets to ban and they grab rag, then when he sees that we want to play Chogall calls us trolls and bans him. Needless to say I picked murky and friend picked abathur for the first time.

Fuck faggots that literally ban who you want to play I'm glad he deserved instant loss.
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>>163754287
>half the post is sucking his husbando's dick
>the other half of the post is crying about a teammate

I've had teammates they fight like that, it's fucking awful when you throw they game just because you want to be a petty faggot to that one guy.
They spent the entire game sitting next to forts and typing at each other.
Please remember you have other teammates as well.
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>>163754456
No, fuck off. I can talk to people like I want and you've got no right to attack me for that, bitch. Go carry me instead you hypocrite, and don't waste my time with your talking to me about not shittalking the weakest link.
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>>163754784
Think about it
For every shitpost, ironic or not, there's at least one person out there who actually thinks like that.
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>>163754456
Chogall was viable they didn't have a tychus or any counter to him. It's just dumb shitters trying to control who you play. If they start out toxic in pick and ban phase they deserve the lose.

Also your fucking weird husbando? There nothing gay playing games with a friend. Stop being a faggot.
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>it's another "last pick is a shitter who can't play supports to save his life but instead of saying something in draft chat he just picks solo heal tyande" episode
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>>163751028
Thanks m8.
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>>163735465

Sometimes it's nice to not die.

The 20 upgrade is good against dual tank teams
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>>163732667

>"Stop liking what I don't like"
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>>163755508
>first three picks are two assassins and a specialist
>other team already grabbed a support and a good warrior
>most other supports and good warriors are banned
>you weren't one of the first three picks

granted, I like playing warriors and certain healers, but it's annoying when the rest of your team is selfish and by the time you pick your options are really limited
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>>163756790
>t-they picked assassins and specialists!!! they're so selfish!
kys retard, you're supposed to start the draft with assassins and specialists
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>>163757046

>thinking this

t.Gold
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>>163757046
says who you fucking cocksucker? Im not saying they have to be last pick but I would think that you should grab at least one warrior or your support in the first three picks
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>>163756050
But if you don't die, you never make use of your trait.
r u nub?
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>>163757270
>picking support or tank early
yeah who needs to know what you should be countering anyway?
literally K Y S
>herp derp we'll pick diablo first!!
>zeratul gets banned
>zagara is picked on the enemy team
>malfurion is banned / picked on the enemy team
>GUYS WHY ISNT OUR STRATEGY WORKING????
that's plat shitters for you
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>>163757467
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>>163757467
>pick Illidan and Butcher first
>WAAAAH WHY DO THEY HAVE BLINDS AND STUNS
>WAAAAH WHY IS OUR CHEN SO SHIT WHAT THE FUCK WHY DID YOU NOT PICK MURA
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>>163757570
>first picking niche heroes that aren't even in the meta
>T W O of them
might as well kys
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>>163757704
>muh meta
Doesn't matter, both can wreck if the draft allows it. NOT if you're you're an assassin first picking cunt.
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>>163757928
>he unironically says that it's a good idea to draft both illidan and butcher
literally kys
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>>163726175
>>163724693
>the living bomb shenanigans happened on NA, in bronze league
>this shit happened today on EU, IN PLATINUM
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>>163758137
Plat is glorified silver.
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@163757972
>he unironically can't into grade school reading comprehension and misinterprets simple stuff to shitpost
>on fucking Christmas
I'm having some real laughing hours here, matey.
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>>163758442
Silver doesn't get a shitty mount though.
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>>163757972
>>163757704
>>163757467
>kys
kill yourself faggot
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losing 7 placements because of shit teammates is reminding me why I quit LoL/ranked

>inb4 retards telling me I should be able to carry a silver thrall who tries to 1v1 samuro while he's golding all our doubloons
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>nuke map
>4 nukes spawn
>your team just sits on lane
>enemy picks up all nukes uncontested
That's when I tunneled back home and came to type this. What's up with all these retards
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>>163759758

>instalock gazlowe

8 placements lost now lads
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>>163760068
just dodge when shit like that happens
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>>163759758
>that pic
/dng/?
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>>163761210
No, internet you fucking homolord.
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The level of your hero affects matchmaking right?
Does it throw me a team of shitters when I queue with my level 20 hero and expect me to carry them?
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>>163761501
No. The game is far far too dead for anything as stupid as that anyway.

>hero level means anything outside of time played
Fucking kek. How delusional.
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>>163761501
If you get shitters on your team, it's because you're a shitter, too.
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>queue up for a nice game as Boner King
>computer forcibly restarts right as the game begins, due to me updating some things earlier this morning
>get back in hots, 15 minutes behind the server
>takes another 5 for me to catch up
>our core was under attack at least once during this period
>finally load in, we're in the middle of a team fight and I have half health
>turn the fight around, kill 4 of them
>get the shrines
>get the dragon
>plow through 2 mid forts
>get core and win
>all this in the span of about 3 minutes
>no abandon penalty
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>>163762379
Fascinating fairy tale, my friendo.
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>>163763794
just for you

forgot to mention Rag kept disconnecting too
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>>163764187
>no talents picked
That's no game a bot played for you, friendo.
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>>163764287
yeah, until I came back and we won, which is the point of the story, my mango
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>>163764391
20 minutes into the game, you were already like level 16-20. The bot would have chosen all the talents already.
As I said, fairy tale.
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>tfw too intelligent to play non-complex shit heroes
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>>163765393
>tfw too intelligent to play anyone but seasoned marksman afk lane farmer heroes to destroy lategame
It's a curse, I tell you. I try to switch it up every now and then, but I just zone out and miss everything.
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>>163764957
The bot did choose talents, the only one you see there is the one I picked, and it's the same for Rag. What's your next theory?
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>>163765727
That you're a prancy lala homo faggot. Good luck trying to disprove that though :)
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>>163765790
the burden of proof lies with you my friend.
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>>163759758
>>163760068

lmao what are you playing i was recently in bronze silver and gold and the players practically killed themselves

also friendly reminder you can dodge placements and only have to play a quick brawl or something to re-queue, no ranked point loss or anything
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>>163765790
I'll prove it by putting it in your ass :^)))
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>>163765920
You're playing Leoric, a male character, instead of a fertile girl like Jaina or Li-Ming. That proves you're a massive faggot.

Your go.
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>tfw your team is filled with russians and polaks
Guess I'll stop playing this if it's just going to be filled with 3rd worlder shitters with 60 IQ and no English skills
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>When you Haymaker Valla into your entire team
>When you Haymaker Kerrigan away from your dying Jaina
>When you Haymaker some retard behind your wall
>When you Haymaker someone out of the teamfight just long enough for your team to get the advantage

This is so great; why would I pick Avatar over this?
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>vs ai
>everybody always rushes mid, not boss lanes
>gets the random objective and shit that doesn't push mid
>takes 10 minutes to end
>nobody just wants to push the fucking boss lane then boss at 3:00
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>>163759758
Isnt Thrall kinda a counter to Samuro though? Ive at least had good experience in that matchup
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What hero do I use to pve to diamond like everyone memes about? A decent wave clear assassin like Valla or Kael? Or a specialist like Xul?
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>>163771040
bruisers / off tanks

you can control the fights better, have good tank to survive, deal good damage, cap mercs, etc.
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>>163771040
Azmo
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>>163771040
Xul can work, not every map but on some maps he can be an amazing pick, he's also good in team fights plus he has swagger.
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>>163768996
>not just pushing through mid and ending the game in 2 minutes
>playing vs AI in the first place
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>>163771040
play thrall
he has only one build that is optimal against everything
earthquake takes no skill to use
punishes a bad positioned backline hard
is one of the best if not the best solo laner in the game
high winrate on hotdogs if you believe in such incomplete data
melee damage dealer is the most unplayed type of hero in the lower leagues
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>>163772885
>pick slug
>burrow into bush need fort/keep
>literally afk or alt-tab

Comfy way of getting the 800 gold quest done.
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>kill all five enemy players
>no personal kill announcement
>no pentakill
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I like that in single player versus AI games, blizzard sometimes gives you partners that are literally worthless and you'll easily do double or triple their numbers (all of them), and still lose since you're playing abathur and can't do objectives or solo the bone golems

It's a good emulation of the retards you'll have to play with in real life
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>You will NEVER be this dedicated
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>>163773431

He likes fun.

Nothing wrong with liking fun.
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>>163773416
>lose
>vs AI
What the fuck
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>>163773786
It was my first ever loss versus AI, and first game versus AI to take more than 30 minutes

I'd consider suicide, if I didn't normally stomp the AI into the dirt with any other hero that can at least walk around the map and poke people a little bit. I know I'm not entirely beyond help
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>>163774007
You could have just made a copy of one of your allies heroes and 1v5 the enemy team
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>>163774108
I picked monstrosity, oops
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>>163773786

It's definitely possible on a couple Heroes if set to Elite, although not common.

>>163774108

>tassadar
>tyrande
>diablo
>tracer

Five bots with a reasonable composition sieging into a keep with 2-3 teammates dead. It has the potential to be rough. If you aren't AFK it usually doesn't get to this point, though. Slug is just too convenient for getting dailies done in Vs. AI, preferably with real teammates. They usually don't even notice.

>literally afk on slug
>come back to one person calling me afk
>three other players calling him a shit bronze for not knowing how abathur works

kek
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>>163773361
Hyper casual game designed to make people FEEL important so they'll spend shekels. They're important on this game. They were first on XP and siege damage that match, they can prove to these toxic people yelling at them that they were playing great. Just look at the stats. There's no reason not to drop a little money on this new character since they're good at this game.

see
>>163734238

The fact that half the time you'll see people IN THIS THREAD tell new players to "focus on PvE" at first shows you exactly what kind of unskilled garbage with no idea how the strategy works that this game produces.
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>>163756134
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>Stinpack runs out right as I'm halfway to 10 with Samuro.

Suffering.
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>>163774397

That actually makes some sense. I've literally never met somebody that didn't point at the stat screen when called out on bullshit.

>muh siege
>muh hero damage
>muh deaths
>muh exp
>muh teammates


>>163774662

Hey, do they still have that Conquer bundle that comes with a stim that lasts a week that's like a dollar if you own most of the Heroes?
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Speaking of vs AI, how is the AI compared to bronze/silver/gold/etc.?
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>>163775048
>average is somewhere between nice looking and hot
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>>163775048
I own all the heroes so they don't let me buy it.
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tfw is plat and above include 1/4th of the entire playerbase

tfw your league/rank/whatever the fuck still doesn't mean crap because Blizzard wants you to "feel good" and not "get good"
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>>163775097

I was also curious about this. Only played a dozen or two games between Bronze and Gold, but the players down there felt significantly worse than Elite AI.
Questionable sample size, though. Might take a trip back down there again this season, see how things are.

It was pretty funny, honestly. 1v2 lane on Jimmy against Li-Ming and Malfurion. Somehow killed them both because they were both aggressive because...2v1? and they both missed all their shit.

>>163775270

Yeah, if 70 or 80% were in Bronze/Silver like in League I bet fewer people would play. Least they supposidly made an attempt to cut Diamond in half.
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is double support dead already

team got pissy with me for picking monk when we already had brightwing
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>>163775828

No, that's fine. Isn't that ideally how Khara is played now?
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>Ragnaros no longer consistently labeled with "Higher than average wait time" in QM
>Varian still is

What the fuck? Did everyone get bored of Ragnaros or something? Why?
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>>163776059
lava wave nerfed
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>>163776106
Meh. I never used it anyway.
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>>163776106
1) It's still good

2) That can't fucking be it, because Sulfuras is the more fun ultimate anyway.
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>DW IM PRO GREYMANE
>dies eight times trying to 1v2 valla/diablo
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>>163777521
i dont blame the dude
it used to be possible
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>>163777521
>Varian you're our only Warrior, you ARE going Prot right?
>"nah arms better"
>dies 9 times in 12 minutes
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>>163766558
>skeleton
>male

Did you just assume my fucking gender, faggotshitlord?
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>>163777959
He was shit then

Taunt is a garbage spec and you should almost never die on Varian because he can immune everything almost constantly
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>>163779952
lmao now you're going to say fury is good
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>"dont contest our immortal just burn theirs we win dps race"
>rest of the team agrees

>li ming, heal khara, thrall, sylv, tank varian
vs
>tychus, valla, artanis, bwing, johanna

honest to god how fucking retarded to you have to be to believe this for even a fraction of a second

"elo hell isn't real" - dumb apes
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>>163766558
You can blame him?
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>>163776059
Lots of wow players came to try ragnaros because he's such a popular character
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>be samuro
>enemy team: dehaka, artanis, li ming, rehgar, valla
>we actually won
teamfights were fucking hell, couldn't be close to anyone for more than 3s, but we won through stolen siege camps and a lucky huge ass enemy burst on one of my illusions

i fucking love illusions.
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Gul'dan is a better Gazlowe. I just realized.

Jesus christ. Why don't they give a shit about certain heroes?
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>>163780924
Your mom is a better cumdumpster. I just realized.

Jesus Christ. Why don't they give a shit about the poor?
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>>163780924
Gazlowe is good force multiplier hero
if you have solid CC team comp, he makes it a guarantee that you win with his combo

if he doesn't and you have no CC or even zoning control, it's gonna be shit
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>>163780924
Never played him but is Gul'Dan even playable without a healer?
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>>163775973
Kharazim got nerfed the very moment he got meta as an off support.
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>>163781680

Oh, that's sad. He always felt a little bit niche to me as a solo-support, but I never got to a terribly high level of play.
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>>163781237
why would a skeleton have hair when the skin holding onto the hair has already decomposed
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>>163780667
Valla and Li should be easy pickings for you. If worst comes to worst flank with your clones and swap with one when you see an opening.

With the clone talent at 13 and Press the attack on 16 they are always up and can delete back lines.
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>>163782298
its beyond sad because blizzard straight out said that they are happy that people finally catched on that damage kharazim is strong because it now allowed them to nerf the damage a little like wtf is going on inside their heads.
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>>163783285
I often wonder how the fuck one becomes a game balance dev, because I feel like some of us here qualify for the job, according to their apparent standards.
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>>163783285
>blizzard wanting every support to simply be a healslut

I love this game but wish there wasn't a fucking healbot on every team goddamn.
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>>163782321
Is a wig.
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>>163783618
Know someone high up at Blizzard and ask for a job
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>23 days of stimpack left
>all heroes level 5 or above
>favorites are mostly level 9 or above
>70k gold and no heroes I want to buy
Should I still get these level 7/8 heroes to 9?
Go for 15 or 20 on my favorites?
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>first pick ragnaros on dragon shire
>k looks good, go afk for a bit
>come back
>our team comp: ragnaros, zeratul, nova, li ming, kharazim
>we got 1 kill, from my molten core
fun game
i sure love playing hero league in plat
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>>163785379
>i can't tank
>i can't support

like who and what are these people

>johanna walk into enemy team and press all your buttons
>malfurion just hit whatever bonus points if you root somebody
>brightwing just fucking float near us
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>>163785379
HL is a trap, anon.
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which hero has the best strut and why is it Leoric?
>tfw click right somewhere and immediately feel like a badass
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>>163786615
>still haven't found somebody in hots I find as satisfying to play
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>>163785775
They are people who are legally retarded and this game has lots of them
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>>163786875
>tfw tried him out when I tried LeL again after quitting for ~2 years and playing it for 4k hours
He's so fucking based. Such a shame LeL as a whole is a terrible game, it has some god-tier characters. Based fucking JHIN being one of few.

DotA has my Rubick and Teggies as well. Might actually play DotA again soon.
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>>163773361
>no pentakill
They call it MEGAKILL

If you didn't even get that, you were too slow.
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>>163785331
You'll probably keep playing your favourites so they'll hit 20 eventually without help.
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>play Abathur in QM
>constantly get that great job medal thing for dying less than the average
>average deaths is like 0.7
Doesn't really feel good getting that one
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>>163787478
Valve killing off Boner King in Dota 2 because of the Chinese was a mistake.

I miss him.
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>>163788163
>killing blows is a statistic
>shitty mvp screen is a thing
>personal kill streaks aren't
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>>163788601
Yeah that's total aids. They have a Chinese client that hides skulls and blood. But they ruin SK. Nice consistency and logic, volvo.
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When can we get Memnaros' stupid fucking wave nerfed?
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>>163789391
Read the patch notes, fuccboi.
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How come double support only works well when the enemy team does it?
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>>163758137

LET THE MEMES BEGIN.

I literally only played medivh when samuro first came out for this very reason. It was the greatest time of my hots life.
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So where do we get the news now that Nexus is dead?
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>>163792018
reddit:^)
the op post
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>>163789515
>three people only want to play tanks
>one person only wants to play support

It was a weird game.

>muradin
>artanis
>anub'arak
>rehgar
>brightwing

Easily the weirdest game. We had so much sustain we killed them like 15 times on the first objective before realizing "Hey, maybe we can just end".

Final kill score was like 38-1 in a <20 minute game.
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>playing high level hero league
>grandmaster #75 zeratul fucks off level 23 to 21 to split soak

not even NA
im baffled
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>>163792447
I can't think of a game with a more inaccurate representation of one's skill with their rank system than HotS.
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>>163792554
i agree, it should be more like this
bronze to grandmaster #20 - bronze
grandmaster #20-#5 - diamond
grandmaster #5 4 3 2 1 - grandmaster
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>>163792748
>>163792554

How many people are in Bronze and Silver anyways?

Seems like every retard is at least Platinum, not that Diamond has any shortage because god bless Diamond III placements.
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>>163793069
This is the only statistic they've let us see, and it's from Season 1.
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>7k

Should I save for Alarak? He seems fun/effective but requiring lots of practice. I was also thinking Medivh or maybe Rexxar but I have lots of warriors.
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>>163793989
alarak is a top-tier pick if you're a good enough player, go for it
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>pick rehgar early
>team then drafts lili AND kharazim

you deserve the rank you're in XD

elo hell doesn't exist XD
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>>163794674
only constant! you're a shitter! rank is an accurate representation of where you should be!!!
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Somebody please teach me how to play Sylvanas I swear I feel worthless with her.
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>Need 3 Snow Brawls to get paid
>Each one takes 40 minutes

Okay yeah sure.

No winter event this year is any fun
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>>163795569
Just spam snowballs and laugh at how easy it is to win

Also helps if you explain to your team how the snowballs work when the game is starting
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>>163795569
I just did a snowbrawl with all Lunaras. Was fun. Even if all I learned was that I suck with Lunara.
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>>163792554
Agreed. Rank means next to nothing for a magnitude of reasons (as they've been explained over and over)
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/hotsg/, who is that hero you suck balls with but see others wreck shit with?

Used to be Tychus for me, but now I found how easy and strong he is.

Currently for me it's Lunara. When I play her, no matter how safe or aggressive I am, I do next to no damage. Yet everybody else it's "haha I do 300% of your life over 5 seconds while being faster than everybody everytime" Surprised she's hardly played. Insanely strong with a competent player.
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>>163797390
Leoric. I don't get what my problem is but I can't play him for shit.

And this is coming from a guy whose best and most comfortable Warrior is Rexxar.
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>>163797270
>get placed diamond
>feel like shitter out of depth
>play a bit and get master
>still feel like shitter
>talk to others about hots
>nobody believes am master because am pessimistic about game
>people thinking diamond and master are some kind of accomplishment
>things have probably changed since then but blehh

ugh wish i could go back to first discovering the game
it was so fresh and fun
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>>163797390
I don't understand how Kerrigan or Diablo are supposed to be strong picks.

Kerrigan seems like a melee Nova where most of her strength seems to come from just chain-killing people in a teamfight and isn't that great solo or with less than 3-4 teammates with her.

I don't even know what Diablog is good for. I see that you can build up his HP a lot but there's no damage, lifesteal talents seem to suck, and his flamethrower is a gamble on early game finishes while the other heroic seems to be a 1 second teamfight skill that doesn't complement any of his other talents and requires some wombo combo from his teammates to get any use out of it.
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>>163797632
I was very similar, then I just "let go" I still play properly and am not an asshole to people, but I don't care so much about the stupid shit over this joke of a game. Rank and MMR mean and do next to nothing (G/M constantly get put with/against bronze/silver) and the average player is legitimately terrible at the game. So eh, fuck it. Find the balance.
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>>163797390
Pretty much all melee heroes and short range heroes
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When will he rise again, you guys?

Crypt Lord was my favorite hero unit in WC3. It hurts.
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>>163797390
Chromie, I literally don't understand how I always get hit by her shit but unless I go Aether build with her, I'm like a fucking Stormtrooper.
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>My last 4 quick matches have been unwinnable comps
Just fuck me because we totally have any chance with double support, a leoric, and medivh, plus one assassin

Totally won't get fucked over in any team fight because we have no damage
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>>163800798
You have to predict the enemy movement which is unique for every player you play against. Some people actually pay attention to you and you can't just rain it on them directly, some even know to look at where your character is facing to dodge your sand blasts

It's the most fun when people are being idiots and sit in middle of their own creep waves so you can kill the whole wave and take off half their hp with a single combo
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Whoever gave the ok to the diablo buff should be shot. He's outdamaging some of the best assassins in the game and has almost as much health as Cho'Gall
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>>163804276
How does diablo even deal damage?
It doesn't feel like he is doing any damage
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>playing lost vikings in quick play
>pushing the hell out of every lane when I get the chance
>got 50 percent of my teams XP and we had a 4 level lead on the other team at one point
>was capturing the merc camps almost as fast as they were respawning
>retards on my team go full retard and throw and charge into teamfights one at a time
>some guy starts blaming me for us losing and tells me to"go back to raynor because vikings are too complex for you"
the funny thing is, the very next game he ended up on the other team and my team said that I was one of the best vikings they had seen in quickplay.
I like to think that I proved him wrong, but my experience with people like this in Dota tells me that he would say that I was carried by the rest of my team or some shit like that
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Who MVP here?
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>play qm
>teammates just complain nonstop how rag and samuro are op even when we beat them fairly easily
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>>163719380

He's not shit. He's very good.
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>>163806041
>people actually bothered to click that shit
>especially enemy team
I bet that hasn't happened even 50 times world wide
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>>163797632
Between the small playerbase and people being absolute dog shit at HotS because it's marketed to hyper casuals and moba rejects, you'll find that -basic- moba skills will get you to the top >99%. Just walking between attacks to keep good positioning and keep yourself in range will easily net you Master+.

"High" ranks in this game have absolutely no game sense because the game never forced them to learn anything. The map lights up, they go to it regardless of whether or not it's a good idea or not. They've never learned the why. And they never will. The map is flashing a location at me and I need to go there. I'll lose if I don't. ...right?
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>>163804410
Q auto W walk auto E auto walk auto W auto

Take talent that gives ability damage reduction for soulstone stacks

Take talent that gives 25% auto damage and burning aura

If you're shit take the Lightning Breath
If you're good take Apocalypse
(No seriously admit to yourself whether or not you're bad and don't take the Global stun if you are because you'll waste it and not use it on good opportunities)
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>>163806903
This is what causes the nightmare of trying to explain to people why you can ignore the first raven lord spawn or old mines and just soak lanes to get 7 before the enemy.
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>>163807294
>They get the Punisher or Immortal
>Go to soak the opposite lane since nobody else is
>ANON WHAT THE FUCK COME DEFEND, THIS FUCKING IDIOT HERE GG

Okay, what the fuck man.
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>lose quickmeme dragon shire
>our tracer says "try next time"
>10 deaths

The fuck?
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>>163806903
I've had the opposite happen, too. Where people refuse to leave their lane because "lane control is important guise!" and cost the entire game because they never once left their lane to get an objective.
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>tfw people using the default color and skin in ranked

And they always suck, why even play a hero you are not used to? Its like they hate winnjng
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>>163807548
>play azmodan
>first punisher
>soak two lanes
>my team manages to get wiped out and then lose the first fort
>it's somehow all my fault
It's like they have never played Azmodan or against Azmodan before. He does fuck all in team fights
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Why would anyone take Bladestorm instead of just learning Illusion Master on Samuro? Fine, you don't have to be as good to play, but you give up so much utility and playmaking potential for it, and the ult really isn't even that great. The damage is on the lower side and can easily be healed through (also it's lower than your AA DPS), and you're basically telling the enemy team "Here I am!" every time you use it, which is extremely counter-intuitive for a hero whose survivability comes solely from trickery and deception.

Honestly, I feel like if you aren't good enough to use IM, you're not good enough to play Samuro.
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>>163807962
Hey man I like default Alarak
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>>163807962
Default Anub'arak is amazing, nothing beats the OG Crypt Lord.


But you shouldn't be playing Anub'arak anyway.
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>>163808084
Whats the best way to git gud with illusion master?
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>>163808000
>infernal shrines
>simultaneously keeping two lanes pushed on xul or sylvanas
>objective spawns, make my way over
>first sign that we've won or lose I break to get back to pushing
>all five enemies spend a minute or so killing minions
>I've killed four towers and have drained most of their tower ammo
>their punisher gets like one tower

I don't know. First objective is often overvalued. Played on a lowbie smurf and just took both forts on battlefield for free while everybody danced in the middle like retards.
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>>163806252
i didnt even know it went yellow and say legendary at 8. does something happen if all 10 vote for the same person?
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>>163810320
Knowing Blizzard, probably nothing
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>>163810320
>remember mvp screen is a thing after reflexively through it for the hundredth time
>lets see if anybody actually votes
>five seconds
>one updoot

lmao this thing was a success wasn't it, don't even get a shitty little play of the game clip like in ow
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First time playing ranked. Got placed into gold 1 and after a few games I have enough points for plat. What happens if I lose this promotion game? I'll need to win roughly 1 more game after that to be able to play another promotion game?
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>>163808668
Honestly, you don't need to make super micro-intensive plays with it to get value out of it. I'm not even that great with it but I would still pick it over Bladestorm 100%. Just think about all the different uses you can get out of it and try to practice using it.

There's easy shit like:
>Sending your clones to scout for you
>Positioning your clones to tank merc camps
>Sending your clones to a position you want to be in the future (For example on Shire if you want to capture a shrine and then get to mid asap)
>Sending a clone to a safe spot just in case you need it to escape a fight

Even if that's all you can do, I feel the pick is justified.

Then there's riskier and harder stuff like:
>Sending a clone away from a fight and making people think it's the real one
>Splitting clones up in teamfights so you can port around as you need to

It's literally just practice from there on out
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>>163811283
>posting on the wrong thread
>priceless
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>>163810628
It's only because of the Skip button.

Overwatch doesn't have a Skip button but you could open up the menu and quit without penalty but that's too much work and people can't see their personal stats if they skip the MVP screen so they stay and randomly vote on shit if they care long enough to stay.

I don't skip HotS MVP screens.
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>>163811402
>splitting headache

Kill me.

>>163811567

Any word as to when we might be getting a more detailed match breakdown, or improved hero/map stats?

>quest progress
>talents
>player names
>bans
>42-29 on Xul during Season 2

Stuff like this.
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>>163811746
>expecting tryhard stats on a casual game
>wanting tryhard stats on a casual game
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>>163744781
>>163744837
>Artanis is better than Stitches at being Stitches
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>don't like playing mages in WoW
>like playing jaina, kaelthas, and li ming in HotS since their numbers are so big
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>>163773431
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>my favorite map Braxis Holdout
>enemy team has the advantage
>we capture the satellites
>solo guard north while 4v3 south
>they wipe and signal that I should go help south
>stay north and get killed 1v1
>0% zerg
>"just let them win"
>Kerrigan AFK-leaves twice
>VICTORY
Even if my gun is on fire, I'll still draw.
>>
>Auriel following a full stacks butcher
I need a reaction pic of
>Why can't I hold all this energy
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>>163818665
That's not the '>zeebo, brah.
Get in on that voodoo damage, you'll never run out of energy.
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>>163818820
well, I'm shit league, so the naz that I see only go and drop zombies near a fort, send some frogs, miss the spiders and then run back in fear
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>>163819198
That's how it goes until you get vile infection, where every little thing you do deals x +500 damage always.
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>When your teammate makes a really bad call and you desperately want to say "No, don't do that!" but the entire team is already following them, and you start to think that maybe you're the one in the wrong, and that it actually is the right plan, so you quietly follow as well. Then it completely fails and turns out exactly like you thought it would, and you want to say something but you blame yourself for not speaking up against it.
>>
Can we just talk about how fucking broken Resilient Flame is? Every other "resilient" talent only gives a small bonus, but Ragnaros flat punishes you for stunning him. Combine that with Fire Ward or Catching Fire, and the healing from Empower Sulfuras, and he basically becomes a tank for 3 seconds. It feels like in some situations you don't even want to stun him, because there's a chance you won't be able to kill him afterwards just because of that. Fuck this talent.
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>>163820117
I've actually come across Warriors who flat out refuse to stun me after they dive me a few times and get someone killed because of it. It's fucking awesome.
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>>163819796
>speak up
>nobody listens
>get aced
>"oops hehe should've listened xd"

Suffering.
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>blizzard is LITERALLY just ripping off troll warlord
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>>163821083
But Dota literally ripped off Blizzatd with Troll Warlord.
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>>163821282
Valve mate Dota 2 before Blizzard made hots
>bu but muh Dota 1
Blizzard didn't make it
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How do we fix him?
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>>163822058
Wasn't it said they're looking to give him natural damage reduction in Worgen form?
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>>163822058
make him pure melee
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>>163822112
just... no.
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>>163822112

can u not
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>>163822058
He offers nothing but pure, high sustained damage while being terribly unsafe. So make that worth it.

Scrap Wizened Duelist and give him baseline 30% more damage.
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>>163822058
Delete his worgen form, so he is forced to be a master race human, abilities reworked to fit.
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>>163823597
No
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I love meme heroes

My favorites are abathur, murky, and tlv.

Should medivh be my next buy?
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>>163824838
every time I play him people really get mad even before the match starts. So go for it
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>>163823597
I like it.
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>>163781237
Why the fuck is Leoric so sexy? When are they gonna buff him? Blizz mentioned they want to give some lovin to Leo a few patches ago, so when?
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>>163826472
They gun rework March only, as it's shit.
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>>163826698
March is alright vs Gorge Stitches but then you're against Gorge Stitches.
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>>163827835
>specifically Gorge Stitches
I don't understand, but I suspect you just didn't want to bump without a proper post.
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>>163828828
>stitches hooks and gorges you like a retard (90% of people that take gorge are retards anyway)
>brings you behind his team
>spits you out
>march through their team to the other side and e away
>>
Anybody know what the price of a skin+mount bundle is if you bought the hero with gold?

Trying to find out how much it would cost for Zul'jin's skin and the bear if I were to buy him with gold.
>>
>>163829108
Is there a difference from just buying the bundle after buying the hero with cash?
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>>163830082
I don't believe so, no. Because it just discounts according to which item you already own in the bundle, so it deducts just that item from it.
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>>163830158
>Because it just discounts according to which item you already own in the bundle, so it deducts just that item from it.
I didn't know Blizzard did that. How thoughtful of them.
>>
>>163829108
But will the bundle actually gonna be Zul'jin + skin + bear? Usually in such release bundle the mount fits thematically to the skin.

Maybe Zul'jin will be bundled with just the skin and the bear will be avialable in other way? Or there'll be two bundles?
>>
>>163830540
I'm just going by how it's been. Like Butcher's bundle was skin+mount, Samuro was skin+mount, you have a point in that the skin doesn't fit the mount, but I figure they won't differentiate here.
>>
Anybody want to knock out the 15 games for the winter shit? I assume the quickest way is feeding agaisnt the hardest AI.
>>
When is my CardStone bitch coming /hotsg? I've been waiting too long
>>
so whats the difference between the ranks anyway?
I am gold watching a GM on twitch and the games are just as much clownfiesta as mine.
>>
who here scared of the inevitable

>We dont like how everyone goes for bloodlust/EQ/Apoc combo so we are nerfing the shit out of them
>>
>>163836914
500-1000 gold and an additional mount, probably.
>>
What talents to pick on Sylvanas?
>>
>>163839253
2 3 1 1 2 2 4
>>
Where is the PTR update?
>>
>>163840302
Blizzard is on a month long vacation
>>
>>163840302
why would there be a ptr update
>>
Don't die, jesus
>>
>dead game
>dead thread
>>
>tfw you still can't solo queue chogall in QM
>>
>>163835050
never
ever
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>play tank
>win
>play shit
>lose
>>
>>163844314
>best'dan
>shit

take it back
>>
>>163844314
>first
>secure some good damage for the team, first pick after
>team picks retarded comp
>tanks can't tank
>supp can't supp
>to ask for positioning is a luxury
>never go as 5 after 10

The daily suffering continues...
>>
>Alarak boasts that he has top hero damage
>Complains that the Sonya doesn't have top hero and top siege damage (she was third in each)
Makes you wonder how some people are this retarded.
>>
>>163822058
>disengage is the human form ability
>pounce is the worgen form ability
>when in one form, the ability for the other is the trait button

thats one issue fixed at least
>>
Why the hell isn't Alarak unstoppable while dashing?

There's nothing more infuriating then going for a big charge and catching the edge of entangling roots and having it cancelled and go on full cooldown
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>playing Butcher
>other team has a Butcher
>with a master skin
>he even has Medivh AND Rehgar in his corner
>meanwhile our team comp is the usual QM team
>fuck, he's going to make me look like a total chump
>we get shit on before 10
>turn shit around by furnace blasting his ass while he tries to chain people to posts every time
>win
>get MVP

feels good being Butcher, all other assassins are nerds

except my boy Alarak
>>
https://youtu.be/XUhMCNzcUb0

In development

>Zuljin
>dream genie chrome
>bronze tiger Kharazim
>Amani war bear
>>
Awaken, thread!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XUhMCNzcUb0

>Zul'jin
>Amani Warbear
>Genie Chromie
>Indian Kharazim
>>
>>163846808
Because Blizzard devs are stupid
>>
>>163847781
>>163847730
>Dream Chromie

MUH

DICK
>>
>>163847730

>genie chrome

MY

DICK
>>
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>>163847781
Finally
>>
>HotS finally has a Gnigger
>>
>>163848353
I DON'T EVEN LIKE GNOMES WHY IS MY DICK GETTING HARD
>>
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>>163847781
>dem Zul'jin skin variations
Yes very good indeed
>>
>>163849071
It's her tummy
>>
>>163847781

>Amani bear gets the TBc tint
>Zuljin tints look different yet not clown retarded

Hype
>>
>>163847781
What's with the middle eastern themed skins?

Also
>Ysera is just a Chromie spell skin
>>
>it's another our team is superior and we would win teamfights easily if someone would stop getting picked episode

also I was GM last season and am now stuck in d3, anyone else relate?
>>
>>163849229
>two accounts in masters
>random shitter account stuck in p1 for nearly 80 games
>give up on it
>haven't played since

sometimes i just don't know
>>
>>163847781
>finally a Warcraft hero that doesn't look like shit
>aside from Tyrande
>that big juicy night elf booty
>tfw the axe is my favorite weapon
>>
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So the left skin is default, middle one is Warcraft 2 pallette i think what would the right one be?
>>
This Chromie skin is not a good idea
>>
>>163850061
Blizzard does it on purpose, they know exactly what they are doing
>>
>>163850061

The pants are transparent ;3
>>
>>163850061
Yeah, I'm reporting Blizzard for CP
>>
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>No Monkey King Samuro.
>>
>>163851159
another reason to ban this fag
>>
>>163807606
Tracer players and whoever came up with that annoying dyke should be shot.
>>
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>>163851227
>Banning Samuro when Diablo, Thrall, Rehgar and Rag exists.
>>
>>163849879
Jesus Christ Zul'jin is fucking brolic. The fuck did they do, take an orc's body and shop a troll's head on it? Just look at those fucking legs and shoulders. What the fuck Blizzard?
>>
>>163851326
>rehgar
>op

kek m8 but good point
>>
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Big dingo.
Big noob
>>
>>163851516
>tfw imagining being trapped between his sweaty thighs or in his armpit
Thanks blizzard for your fetish for making burly men
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>>163851584
Pls no judgement for mobile screenshot
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>>163851516
>he forgot about how beefy forest trolls were
>>
>>163851561
He's not OP, but he synergizes really well with a lot of heroes so in some cases he's worth a ban.
>>
Do I just pick all the corpse spider talents on Nazeebo?
>>
>>163851516
The Amani Forest Trolls have always been Slab Bulkhead levels of huge. It's the Zandalari/Gurubashi that Vol'Jin come from that look like fucking slim jims.
>>
>>163852917
Pretty much.
>>
>>163851326
Samuro is the character only niggers and weeaboos pick, because Orcs are basically the closest thing that negroes will have to a race that people actually want to interact with.
>>
>>163853197
who hurt you
>>
Why did chromie steal one of marie rose's costumes?
>>
>>163853772
All these shitty Samuros that QM keeps giving me who have no idea how to do jack shit outside of be as useful as a negro in a cotton field after Eli Whitney.
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>>163853951
>>
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>>
>>163854050
>I keep losing.
>Could it be I'm the problem.
>No it's the other guy.
>>
>>163854538
>Samuro focuses the enemy Zarya with her shields up
>Keeps doing it
>Doesn't listen to not focus the tanks
Yeah, it's my fault he's literally a subhuman ape.
>>
>>163854618
They are putting you with them for a reason you realize. Get out of bronze and maybe you won't play with them.
>>
>>163854686
To be fair, the higher MMR you are, the lower MMR your allies will generally be, especially if you're in a party.
>>
>>163854223
japan is sick
sick like that li li poster
>>
don't listen to this >>163854686 faggot
retards will be retards, even in diamond

it never gets better
>>
>>163855373
is diamond in hots still like silver in league
>>
>>163855553
>LoL
>Any better in any way
Nop.
>>
>>163855553
i don't know what you mean by that ,but i assume you're asking if there is an semblence of competency at HotS diamond

the answer is no
the only thing that really changes is that people are more stubborn about their roles
>i only play assassins
>i only play murky
>i only do specialists, someone else support

they'll be slightly more mechanically competent, but lack any understanding of positioning or map awareness and will often walk into a 1v3 situation thinking they're proMLG whatever the fuck
>>
>>163855601
what
>>163855973
yeah, this is what I was wondering

cheers
>>
>>163848353
Her left arm looks fucked compared to her right arm
But I really hope this makes more people make good gnome porn
>>
>>163843748
Well that makes me sad, anon... All I want in this game is Valeera, not a stupid troll
>>
>>163855553
Yes.

There's long explanations that pop up every thread as to why but I don't feel like typing some long ass shit, so long story short HotS doesn't teach anyone how to play because players weren't good at another moba to begin with just play Simon Says and never learn a single thing about the game.

Diamonds in HotS will 100% of the time run to the shiny objective instead of ending the game. And that's your top 10% or whatever for HotS. They're like Silver 2 equivalent for League and 3k for DotA.

I don't even see Master+ players in HotS using basic moba movement skills
>>
>>163855327
Oh shh you know you like it
>>
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>>163856413

Okay, brilliant. I was just curious as to the state of things.

Thanks for the update, Anon.
>>
>>163847730
>that 2nd color amani tbc warbear

Welp, time to get my wow ride in nexus.
>>
>>163851516
Forest Trolls have always been very bulky, it fits the canon.
>>
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>>163848353
still not as good as green tittied goddess Chromie
>>
>>163851584
B I G B I N G O
I
N
G
O
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>>163847781
What the hell why do they keep giving chromie slut skins when ming and tyrande exist?
>>
>>163857954
I think you meant to say jaina and nova
>>
So wait, what did DOTA do to become like HOTS?
>>
>>163858462
Added wells, and added character talents.
>>
>>163858462

idk but friends who've played for years are suddenly asking about hots because they'd never consider going to league
>>
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>>163847781
>that Chromie skin

PLEASE, I don't really like playing Chromie and I already had to stop myself from buying her and the fel queen skin, I do NOT want to make purchases with my dick
>>
>>163858462
They added fountains that are on a 5 minute cd and the heal doesnt scale so its only good early game but most people forget about them anyways
Talent trees are mostly just generic but useful stat increases until you reach 25, when they will usually offer a really big benefit or improve an ability to make it a better late-game ability. The talent tree is just a better replacement for the stat increase you'd normally get. Anyone who says otherwise only played like 3 carries.
>>
>>163860961
>until you reach 25, when they will usually offer a really big benefit or improve an ability to make it a better late-game ability.
+6 Treants
>>
Stitches rework when

Murky rework when
>>
>>163862028
Stitches got a rework, it's called Artanis.
>>
>>163861954
That meme is dead now, they replaced that talent with something arguably better because it became such a big meme
>>
>>163862554
What'd they replace it with, I haven't been up-to-date on the DotA patches.
>>
>>163858804
>hots gets saved by valve pissing off their player base
Thanks glorious Gaben
>>
>>163862270
You mean Dehaka
>>
>>163847781

>that Kharazim skin

Super hyped and I don't even play him.
>>
>tfw enemy Samuro is awful.

Is that why people don't like when I pick Samuro? Also Jesus fuck Bladestorm is bad now. I haven't taken it since they nerfed it.
>>
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>>163851516
Whats wrong fuccboi? Affraid of some big troll stealing your shit?! Puny elves get blown the fuck out.

Zul'Jin is still less bulky than how other trolls are portrayed and thats how it should be.
>>
>>163864060
>Also Jesus fuck Bladestorm is bad now
Yeah, pretty sure illusion master is better even if you hardly even control your illusions
>>
When is the best time of day to play HL?
Or is it just the same shitshow at all hours of the day?
>>
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Anyone want to party up for the 15-30 team games challenge? Add me!
Adsel#11651

Your skill level/voicecomm status doesn't matter.
>>
>>163865104
I was playing Gul'dan and he kept using it on me. I'd just heal and Auriel would heal me once and it did absolutely nothing.
>>
>>163864060
>>163865104
Bladestorm was always inferior. Illusion Master gives so much utility and playmaking potential that you basically need to get it.
>>
>>163862762
Treants are 2x stronger, including ones spawned by Nature's Wrath with Aghs, and including the ones spawned by heroes killed with Nature's Wrath with Aghs. Those Hero-Treants end up with 6x stats, for 3k hp and 200 damage, but still 0 armor. At least theyre good for pushing.
Another reason they got rid of +6 treants is because doing Sprout -> Treants didnt even give you 11 Treants, it only gave you 8.
>>
>>163865781
There was a brief period where they nerfed Illusion Master hard, and left Bladestorm the same that Bladestorm I think was the better pick.

But after the nerf to Bladestorm the only reason to ever take it is if you need to be unstoppable for some reason.
>>
Butcher is pretty OP when you have no cc
>>
>can't wait for zul'jin and the amani bear
>his paid skin turns him into a stone troll, takes away the forest troll/tribal aesthetic that i've always loved about trolls
>have to wait like 2 fucking weeks to buy the bear solo because i prefer his Master over Emberlord

why the fuck dont they just add the option to buy the hero and mount and ignore the fucking skin
>>
Is that first spider talent on Nazeebo better than the 20% range talent?
>>
>>163868016
Everyone will say yes, but I honestly feel it's situational, and both work. Like if you don't think you'll be protected enough to consistently be able to throw jars without taking damage (Effectively whittling down your health and making your 16 talent useless eventually) then go for the range.

Assuming every possible spider bite lands, the level 1 talent is worth about 400 damage at level 20, so while it is a damage loss, the increased utility of the extra range is enough to make up for it, so don't worry about losing too much, just do what would be better for you.
>>
>>163862028
Sonya rework when.
>>
>>163868813
She needs a rework badly, I forgot she was even in the game and she used to be one of my most played characters.

>>163868016
They nerfed how fast he threw his jars so yes. it also opens up other talents late games that wouldn't be nearly as good if you didn't take it.
>>
>>163870036
I mean buffed how fast he threw his jars.
>>
Remind me again why Tracer exists?
>>
>>163872240
Because you touch yourself at night. And in the morning. And the afternoon.
Seriously. You have a problem.
>>
>>163872240

an attempt to get a few people form one of their successful games to try this mess
>>
>>163872240
because she's a dyke and games need dykes today
>>
>>163872240
Because she's a popular hero from a popular Blizzard game.
>>
>>163873024
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRkXSgjd4XQ
>>
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>tfw you aren't on the same page as your teammates for the first 15 minutes of a game and it feels sloppy and lost
>tfw suddenly you're 16-20 and the teamwork is some harlem globetrotter shit and you full wipe them in 5 seconds and end
>>
>last pick hovers illidan
>"hey can you pick something else?"
>"ok"
>locks zeratul

JUST
>>
>playing Abathur as always
>wrecking shit with Jaina copies
>Samuro starts bitching about me never using ulti
>tunnelvisioning so hard he can't even see the double Jainas wrecking shit
>>
>>163874084
>Playing meme slug
You deserve all the bitching you get thrown at you.
>>
>>163873943
if it makes you feel any better, the only other hero he would have played is Nova
>>
why is firebat in the header? Have they been confirmed/hinted/datamined?
>>
>>163874361
Too busy winning to read your post
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>more people playing guldan
>more people winning with guldan
>more people realizing how strong guldan is

YOU'RE GOING TO GET HIM NERFED

STOP
>>
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>>163875585

Datamined yes.

But we probably won't see him for another year because Rag.
>>
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I really hope this game takes off soon. It's so much fun, but the smaller playerbase and no hype can make it hard to play, just knowing it'll never be taken as seriously as other games in the genre. Sucks man.
>>
>"hey im bad at heal can i kael instead"
>let him because a bad healer fucks the team more than a bad dps
>enemy muradin outdamages him by 10K+ on braxis

reminder to never ever EVER be nice to shitter randos in draft
>>
>>163875895
>pushes lanes harder than specialists
>is strong in team fights
Yeah he's getting nerfed. Probably damage reduction on Q and possibly half damage to minions/structures
>>
>>163875895
Been bitching about all the fucking bandwagoners for a while now.
>>
>>163875585

Firebat should just be a Tychus skin.

Basic attack animation = Flamethrower, like Zarya's but fire
Overkill = Flamethrower on steroids
Grenade = Flamegrenade
Run and Gun = Fire shoots out from his back to thrust
Odin = Odin but fire
Laser Drill = Flame Drill

Hire me blizzard look how creative I am
>>
>enemy team drafts sylvanas, malf, azmodan, raynor, muradin for infernal shrines

dodged that shit so fast your head would have spun

literally 100% no way that was going to be a win
>>
>>163878618
No he's not because he's not even considered that strong by most people. He's just really good on a couple of maps.
>>
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>>163878904
>he's not even considered that strong by most people
>>
>>163877658
"You've gotta learn to be a good healer someday, no better time than now."
>>
>>163877228
Because it's less competitive by design.

The people that are good at this game are from other mobas. If you've only played HotS and you think you're hot shit get in a lobby with high rank Doto/Lul players that play HotS on the side and witness your inadequacy.

If you're playing for "seriousness" you've chosen the wrong game
>>
People literally standing still AAing three heroes and not even once hitting F in this brawl.

What is going on?
>>
>>163881792

Loosened matchmaker, for one. I've had Master players and low level, non-smurf accounts in the same game.

Apathy for two. You don't have to win the brawls for the 1000 gold. Plenty of people queue up and just semi-afk.
>>
>>163881792
The average hots player doesn't know how to use the snowballs without some eceleb telling them how to use them
>>
>>163882616
>>163882616

New whenever we ready

>inb4 omg 10 posts early
>>
>>163882665
you forgot to update the brawl
also just put the "in development" in the What's New section, it's already empty enough as is
>>
>>163882764

i'm learning senpai i'll do better next time ;-;
>>
>>163882852

way to go IDIOT

also it's been ">Where do I find you Odin-without-Master-Assassin-talenting faggots?" for a fucking month now. That shit needs to be changed asap.
>>
>>163882062
>>163882407
Ugh. This mode would've been so much fucking fun if it wasn't the fact that people either are too new at the game to understand even basic mechanics or literally didn't give a shit.
>>
>>163848353
>not making a fel queen chromie belly dancer skin
its like they dont want money
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