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Christmas Edition

Elder Thread: >>163296292

>Official news
http://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/news/post/2016/12/13/celebrate-the-new-life-festival
http://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-us/news/post/2016/11/30/crown-store-showcase--november-30th-2016

>Latest patch notes
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/307930/pc-mac-patch-notes-v2-6-11
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/categories/patch-notes

>Builds and Guides
http://pastebin.com/p6ju4fTx [Begginer Guide]
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLWqnQ2EfnFBh-v5dUwrQ7BxtvLSbESJtq
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLWqnQ2EfnFBgjvfzMURBzYTSTxMrf480u
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLWqnQ2EfnFBjnoGhKAtFGwT1lXV7FPg2T


>Online lore, map and general info
http://www.imperial-library.info/
http://esomap.uesp.net/
http://uesp.net/wiki/Online:Online
http://elderscrollsonline.wiki.fextralife.com

>UI addons for PC
http://esoui.com/addons.php
http://minion.mmoui.com/

>Assorted links
http://tesorp.enjin.com
http://esoacademy.com/
http://eso-fashion.com/
http://eso-styles.faerylands.eu/

>Sales and deals
http://www.dlgamer.us/download-the_elder_scrolls_online-pc_games-p-19435.html (authorized reseller)

>/tesog/ Guilds
[PC NA] message (not whisper) @Geobasket or @the_kyrox for invite
[PC EU] message (not whisper) @Hatebr33d3r for invite
[PS4 NA and EU] message PSN: kibukj for invite
[XB1 NA] message GT: Arick556x45 for invite

>Platform poll:
http://www.strawpoll.me/10281492

>Is this game worth playing?
Yes
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What cities have the biggest guild stores? Everyone I check seems to have inflated prices and barely any stuff.
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Merry Christmas, anons!
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Xd for maybe Clockwork City trial in the Vvardenfell DLC.
>>163622026
Mournhold, Elden Root, Wayrest, Rawl'kha.
>>163622124
Merry Christmas!
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>>163622026
Elden Root and Rawlkha work for me. At least in NA
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YAGRUM WHEN?
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Is the Elenwen here the same one as the one in Skyrim? I know Altmer are long-lived but that seems far-fetched.
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>>163623539
Yagrum always
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So is there a way to skip these lifefest events or at least trick it into giving me the one I want? I just need the Khajiit lockpick one and it keeps sending me off to run with the redguard.
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>>163623961
I don't think so, there is also an Elenwen in Morrowind, might just be common-ish name
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>>163623348
>didn't join fighter's guild because I'm a wizard
>often see [intimidate] options that would save time
>still don't join even for the intimidate skill because it feels too out of character
At least there's a good amount of [persuade] options.

I have no idea what pic related even did, though. Most Naryu interactions are a bit of a mystery to me. Did they just try to make her a waifu for its own sake?
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are poisons ever worth making
i have 900 alkahest and dont know what to do with them
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>>163622026
on PC EU Belkarth has literally all the heavyweight guilds
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>>163625764
if you PvP or sell them to PvPers, then they are
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>couldn't finish a daily before the next day
>hand it in
>get the current day's daily afterwards
That's kinda neat. I was so used to FFXIV where you had to hand in a daily before reset or you couldn't get the next day's. I don't even know when this game's dailies reset.
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>>163626870
8 hours from now
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>>163625457
You want to join it just so you can start gaining fighters guild skillline exp.
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>>163625457
>Did they just try to make her a waifu for its own sake?
that tongslut is no waifu of mine!
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I'm way passed Champion 20 and I never got Golden Saint costume. Bug?
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>>163627950
relog, check again
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>>163628067
Logged in and out multiple times since I passed it.
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>>163628354
Well you sure you don't have it? In mail or collections?
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any ideas on how to get enchanting from 40 to 50 fast?
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>>163629174
Decon dropped glyphs or find a partner to switch crafted glyphs to decon.
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>>163629174
Don't forget to put 30 points on The Tower to get 20% inspiration bonus.
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>>163628689
Neither. Odd.
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>>163630282
Email ZoS. maybe they'll give you free crowns for fucking up.
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>>163622252
>wasting Sotha Sil on a trial
Boo
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>>163631149
What else can you do, it is a dungeon after all.
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>>163632967
It's not just a dungeon silly. It's an actual city.
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>>163629264
>>163629393
thanks for the tips, in the end I bought a load of purple crafted 150cp glyphs from 200g - 500g and deconstructed them, got to 50 easier than I thought
now on to creating some tri-glyphs
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>>163634958
How many did you need?
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What's a good way to raise alchemy quickly?
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>>163635713
around 40, it was netting me 30k each decon
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>>163635814
make potions
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>>163635898
That's it, that's the last fucking drop, I'm out of here for good. This worthless shit dank hole that is /teso/ isn't worth my fucking time anyway. I did not come here with the intention to shitpost or circlejerk or whatsoever, but it seems people can't fucking deal with an opinion. But who the fuck am I kidding I have not ever seen someone on here who doesn't go full retard or spend all their time shitposting. Every fucking day in the 2 years that I have been here have has every fucking day been repost day, with the occasional memes and trends that effortlessly overthrow the god damn faggotry that has infested that cursed fucking place. You are no better than /xivg/, you are no better than /wowg/ and I bet even /ksg/ laughs at you pieces of shit. Everyone is fucking denying that they're a bunch of circlejerkers, but I am seeing the same fucking pattern, uninterrupted, seamlessly every fucking week without the slightest bit of change. And if there is a god damned baitpost, how about you don't fucking feed the god damn troll, don't play their stupid fucking games. Holy fuck, I am so fucking sick of this fucking thread, all of you, kill your fucking selves. You are intellectually, emotionally and socially incapable to argue over anything, you are a fucking waste of time and space and if I could I would gas you all fucking Hitler style. FUCK YOU AND THIS RETARDED ABYSMAL HELLHOLE.
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>>163466367
Same shit happened to me. Went from getting around 11k to 6k with nothing really changing inbetween but the group.
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>>163636884
Cancel your buff (hit C and click on it) and drink again.
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>>163634958
Where and how do you farm hajeiko?
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>>163636969
>overwriting an old buff fucks with the EXP gain
Welp. I wonder how much I missed out on not knowing this so far.
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>>163634958
>>163637052
I would also like to know.
My current tank needs them fairly badly.
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>>163637052
>>163637191
bought them for 8k each, I'm on PC eu
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>>163637341
>8k each
>7 pieces
>56k

WHERE DO WE FARM HAJEIKO, GUYS?
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>>163637441
I'm enchanting only the big pieces but yeah the idea of farming them also crossed my mind
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>>163637441
>>163637587
IC sewers - chests, molag, maybe bosses too, can't remember

major PITA to farm, rarer than kutas desu
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>>163637931
Kutas aren't really that rare though
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+1
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ESO would make a good anime
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>>163641954
That Bosmer doesn't have enough old feces smeared all over him.
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>>163622026
I usually find what I'm looking for in Daggerfall
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>>163622026
>>163622252
Mournhold I can vouch for. The kiosks around the wayshrine are usually fine.

I'm sure wherever the undaunted camp for DC is fine too, but elden root is shit tier. Everything is so fucking spread out and you have to go through doors for all crafting, while also having less than average guild stores
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PvE loving WotLK-baby here, looking for something new to play.

How good is ESO?

I wouldn't mind buying the gold edition for 40% off (30€), but I'm not sure how alive the game is, and how good the PvE content is in general.

I heavily despise PvP, so all I want to know about is comfy raid content and the leveling experience.

Merry Christmas!
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Does the Mage's Guild questline give exp for the skill line? Or is it all tied to lorebooks?
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>>163649104
lorebooks only
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what's the point of this game if you can play skyrim with mods for free instead?
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>tfw you go from Champion 50 to 80 at breakneck speed and still have mediocre gear but the enemies are scaled to a higher level so world bosses straight up one-shot you and you have to go grind for crafting materials to make new equipment

I'm probably doing something horribly wrong with my build too
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>>163648972
I'd honestly say it's worth it. I came in with almost no expectations(Game gets shitposted to high hell) but gave it a shot anyways and after an okay early game, it gets great. Combat is lots of fun, dungeons are more than just hallways(looking at you, FFXIV) and there's lots of build variety. It can be a bit overwhelming at the start with the vast amount of things you can put skill points into but once you get the hang of it, you'll love it.
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>>163648972
Leveling is great, but they recently changed the zones from leveled to anyone can quest wherever they want. No longer like wow where it's durotar 1-10 and whatnot.

Dungeons are good fun, but there's definitely a meta for DPS. Tanking can be done by anyone and is real rewarding, healing can kind of be done by anyone but templar healing (equiv of holy priest) is far and away better than everyone else, but it's still quite fun.

You'll want to join a guild for trials, but it's not hard and there are heaps of players doing PvE content. PvP is absolute cancer atm and a lot of people have gone back to PvE.

>I heavily despise PvP, so all I want to know about is comfy raid content

Unfortunately, there are a few skills available from pvp that are kind of required for trials. It doesn't take too long to get them and for the most part you can just roll with a pvp group and play support, but tanks, healers and melee dps benefit from said skills.
If you plan to play magic DPS, no pvp needed at all though.

Merry christmas to you too
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>>163650062
What required healer skill is PvP exclusive?
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>>163650467
sometimes people use warhorn on healers. Not that necessary, but sometimes it's expected
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Leveling Mage's Guild is painful.

Is the Ultimate even worth it?

I'm a Magplar, usually DPS.
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>>163648972
It's great but the combat system isn't like WoW at all. Merry Christmas, have this chart over how different people experience levelling in ESO.
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Christmas bump
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Got the game for Christmas, haven't played Skyrim or other Elder Scrolls in months, been playing WoW Legion for the last while and I want to make my first character a Mage DPS.

Is this a stupid/painful idea for a first character?

Any advice for a Mage DPS? I read the beginner's guide, but I would love any and all bits of advice


Is it like WoW with looks, by the by? Like transmogging? Or is it more like Skyrim with it looking like whatever gear you find being the actual model look?
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>>163657546
Meant to add:


Happy Christmas everybody!
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>thieves guild
>one of the members is a dunmer in a lesbian relationship with a khajiit
>the other was an argonian who had a weird dominatrix chick who is hunting him down

Worry
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>>163657801
Why do you think they wear all that leather, anon?
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>>163657801
Yeah, thieves guild had a zany cast of characters.
Made the Dark Brotherhood look boring and normal in comparison

>tfw Hilde wrote a werewolf children's story about herself.
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>>163657801
Hew's bane is the Las Vegas of Tamriel, full of sin and vice
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I HATE ELVES. I FUCKING HATE ELVES SO FUCKING MUCH. I FUCKING HOPE ALL ELVES AND ELF SUPPORTERS DIE PAINFULLY. FUCKING COCKSUCKING ELF LOVERS. I WILL FUCKING CUT YOUR MILK FINGERS. IF THERE ARE ANY SURVIVORS, I ANNIHILATE THEM. BROWN, GRAY, PALE ELF, CHILD OR WOMAN, I DON'T CARE. FUCK MER. FUCK AURI-EL.
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>>163658264
>full of catnip and lice

Ftfy
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>>163657546
>Is this a stupid/painful idea for a first character?
Not at all. Good magicka sorcerer races are altmer and breton if you want to min max. For magicka dragon knight(good class for fire mage) you should pick dunmer if you want to min/max.
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Is it like WoW with looks, by the by? Like transmogging? Or is it more like Skyrim with it looking like whatever gear you find being the actual model look?
Just like Skyrim but with WoWs variety.
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>>163659281
Nice.
Thanks man.

Do you specialise in a spell type?
Is fire good?
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Do these things show up anywhere else, like dungeons and shit? It was pretty neat to fight it.
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>>163659618
Sadly no. It would be neat if ZOS added some in to Alik'r dessert.
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>>163658264
Not even an exageration. In my adventures in thievery (and failures because lolrng) I've encountered at LEAST three vampires and one werewolf, with another possible one but the possible one I can actually get a 100% pickpocket rate on and I value money more than confirming that he is a werewolf.
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>>163651652
it's a good ult, destruction staff ult might outclass it now, but it's worth getting high mages guild for the empower buff when you cast inner light.

I leveled mages guild while hunting skyshards, but yeah it's a bit of a pain. I use shooting star heaps on my magNB along with soul harvest; the ulti generation is great and I can shit out the ult every 1-2 trash packs.

>>163657546
>Mage DPS

Merry Christmas, your best bet will be rolling a sorcerer. Levelling with pets is great fun, the learning curve is fine for sorc and they're either best or second best magic DPS depending on who you ask.

Dragonknights are decent mages, but there's heaps of DoT management and less nuking. Templars have a stupidly powerful execute but are pretty boring IMO. If you think you might want to heal eventually, go Templar, if maybe you like breathing fire and possibly want to respec for magic tanking, DK is excellent, if you want to have your value questioned every single time you enter a dungeon go magNB, if you just want to kill things with magic, go sorc
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>>163659618
Thieves Guild made me actually interested in Hammerfell stuff.
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>>163659845
Tha ks a ton mate, I'll keep that in mind when it's eventually finished updating.

A few quick questions though; is there a Necromancer-like class? Or is that the Sorc? Is Sorc the one with the big nuke? I like having sustained, but I like having a Big One that I feel I can fall back to in times or trouble


How are pets/pet AI?

Hope the Christmas is being good to you!
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>>163659959
Same here. Also the fact that redguards heavily frown upon magic and hate necromancy more than any other race. Then I learned more about their gods, wind magic and sword singing.
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>>163657801
Don't forget the argonian later ties her up in his own basement
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how do i make cloth armour look good dyed
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>>163650467
None but Barrier, Warhorn and Guard are the ones worth looking at for healing.
>Warhorn
Morphed into Aggressive Warhorn Is the main one for when your tank isn't slotting it or you're running 1 heal 3 DPS, I usually always have it slotted
>Barrier
Can help a lot in certain fights and I usually always have it slotted, Banished Cells 1 HM/Spindleclutch 1 HM it shines greatly when your DPS aren't experienced as it will definitely save their lives when they are hit by the bosses random 20k+ damage attacks, also great for execution phase or when you want/need to stop babysitting as you can just pop it off and focus on DPS for a while
>Guard
I've only used once during a Tempest Island HM run where one of the DPS didn't had enough health to survive the random 18k hit from the boss, ideally it should only be used by tanks but if you're desperate to carry it's there.
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>>163661147
Are they fucking?
Cause I feel like this is going a bit weird.
Also dunno why people said the Thieves Guild was bad, it's been very fun so far.
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>>163663873
I'm pretty sure he rapes her at one point or at least thought about it. Then the pirates get to her.
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>>163664281
>rape
Pretty sure she wants it.
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>>163659826
>have edited .ini
>keep seein pics like this one
>are we playing the same game?
Like seriously what am I missing that make the game look this good. I mean it aint no crysis but compared with some of the shit smeared wall textures I've seen. Guessing it's just jews bane being new, kinda like how the race motif look like deus ex tier low poly blurs compared with motifs coming out now
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>>163633727
"The Clockwork City, also known as Sotha Sil is a giant underground complex created by the god of the same name, Sotha Sil. It is not truly a city, consisting only of brass tunnels and domes with Dwemer-inspired architecture and gears."

You sure about that anon?
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>>163666872
https://www.imperial-library.info/content/sotha-sils-last-words
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>>163666872
Brah, the Sotha Sil you visit in Tribunal is little more than the inner workshop. There's a vast, sprawling multitude outside it. Even the preview of the Clockwork City in ESO showed as much. It's the Clockwork City for a reason.
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>>163667294
>It's the clockwork city for a reason

Things actually run on time there?
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>>163667636
Well, in a way, yes.
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>Random dungeon on alt
>It's fucking WGT
>The group leader is lvl11 and keeps on attacking the The Planar Inhibitor without even asking if the group is ready
>2 others are almost as clueless on aggro management

I hate this dungeon
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>>163669162
>Not asking guys from your guild(s) to do dungeons.
But yeah, I know how you're feeling.
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>>163660097
>How are pets/pet AI?
They're pretty retarded. If you're on PC you can command what they attack but that's it.
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Anyone know of any way to make the first-time installation update not take 3days of constant downloading?

Or is this like an unfixable version of SWtOR?

6hours and it's at 6%
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>>163673105
Time to post your postcode and ask an anon to put it on a hdd if you live close, then meet you at your local library and copy onto laptop. The dload being fuckhuge is probably the problem.
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Is it worth buying the gold edition over the vanilla one?

What exactly am I getting out of it?

I'm a PvE cuck and despise PvP.
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>>163674359
Damn.

Thanks anon.

Was hoping it was like SWtOR where you spend 4hours on fixes and shave off a cpuple of hours than if you had left it alone.

I even have the discs...
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>>163674445
with gold edition you get all the currently released DLC, which is mostly PvE content with the exception of Imperial City, which is both PvE and PvP content. if you can afford it, it is worth getting it. if you are not sure, you can just get vanilla game and upgrade to gold at a later date, but it will cost a bit more I think.
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>>163674630
>with gold edition you get all the currently released DLC
Except the "pssst, nothin personel dryskin" dlc
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>>163674873
desu worst DLC in the game with only 2 bullshit pug-killer dungeons that aren't even really worth doing as content, so not a huge loss there
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>exploding boss in CoH2
Holy shit, ever get a group who are colour blind to red circles and try to do that?
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Somewhat new to the game, is it a requirement to have sword and board to tank due to the taunt skill that they have, or can other weapons be used for tanking as well?
From the two handed skill tree, the Brawler upgrade gives you a shield, and I noticed you can alternate between it and heavy attacks (to regenerate stamina) and keep it up quite a lot.
I also went with heavy armor and about 1/3 of my attribute points in health, rest in stamina, and I'm an Imperial Sorcerer. Noticed the cancer monkey scamp is pretty good at grabbing agro, but I'm guessing since it's a magicka ability, it won't scale well since I'm focusing on stamina instead.

tl;dr anyone see people tank with something other than sword and shield, and is it remotely viable, such as for casual group content?
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Would anyone like a free copy of Morrowind?
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>>163675718
>is it a requirement to have sword and board to tank due to the taunt skill that they have

no, not due to the taunt skill, but due to the fact that no other weapon will give you as much damage mitigation as a SnB. and for a tank you want as much damage mitigation as you can reasonably get. you *can* tank with any weapon, because there is another ranged taunt skill in undaunted skill tree, not tied to any specific weapon, but you will be a fucking shit tank and basically just forget about doing any serious content. not only because you will be much squishier, but because most people won't even keep you in a group.
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>>163658867
>skyrim babby
>thinking men deserve the Temple of the Ancestors
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>>163675915
>Christmas Spirit in /tesog/

Stop that
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>>163675938
I see, thanks. I was focusing on heavy armor because of being on the front-lines, should I skip that and switch to medium instead for the stamina boosts,or is my armor choice not as serious?
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>>163676604
If you are not tanking, going heavy armor is a significant dps loss.
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Merry Xmas! Happy Hoelidays!

>tfw opening new life gift boxes I saved up all for today because that's the closest I'll get to xmas presents
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>>163676604
>>163675938
It can be done for easy content if you are overgeared or have a lot of CP points. Otherwise expect the healer to carry you.

Honestly it's not worth the hassle. You'll also be struggling to stay alive while doing poor dps since you are in heavy armor and have points in health. To answer your second question, heavy armor is significant dps loss if you are not tanking.

What you can do is go heavy armor and s&b for tanking then have a second skillbar with 2h and what not for questing and clearing trash mobs in dungeons. At end game, tanks will want two bars of s&b, but 99% of content, you can have a dps bar.

This way, you also get to stick with heavy armor for your damage if you like that feel. You will always be tanky first, but since staminatanks invest all points into stamina anyways (which you should do, health points are a big trap unless your build specifically asks for it), you will do decent damage for questing/soloing purposes.
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>>163675915
Sure man
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>>163676939
>>163677245
I see, thanks, will switch over to medium then. Last question, is there some expectation (or recommendation) for dps players to have some form of healing or damage mitigation to not get completely rekt, or are you expected to go all out with every skill and let the healer sort out the rest? Having skills like Brawler (upgrade from Cleave) or Momentum from the two-handed tree feels great for situations where I would be taking damage instead of the tank due to the tank losing agro, dying, or otherwise, but at the same time I don't really know just how much damage mobs are pushing out in dungeons, and if it's even it worth it to try as a result.
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>>163660097
It's sorcerer or nightblades depends on what aspect of necromancy you are looking for.

Pet AIs are honestly fine. They behave like your average pet AI would. Trash aggro is not as a big deal in this game, so you will never really feel your pets do anything stupid like in WOW where your Hunter can chain pull on accident.
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>>163675278
After a few tries I always tell two people to stand away and not take part in the fight since he barely does any damage outside of the one that instantly kill everyone.
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can you set you health/stamina/magicka bars to be always visible? or maybe any addon that does this?
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>>163675718
You could always have two handed on one bar and sword and board on the other, only use the taunt to taunt and debuff while primary use the 2h.
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>>163677634
Yes, it's in the options menu.
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>>163657546
If you like thunder spells or warlock feel, then sorcerer is the one for you.

Magic Dragon knight actually plays like fire Mage if I remember correctly with dot and fire stuff in general. It also features earth magic.

Templar plays like a holy priest or paladin caster type I suppose

Nightblades plays like a blood Mage.

They can all go magic, and all are viable for 99% of the content. The differences between classes only come into play once you are fully geared and champion leveled at end game. Just play whichever feels right to you. Who knows what patches will do to balance by then. For example, Stamina sorcerer went from average/blow average to top dog in one patch recent-ishly
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>>163677673
can't find it, only found the same but for the ability bar
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>>163677530
In organized groups or end game, the healer should take care of the whole group exclusively.

While leveling or doing lfg dungeons, that won't always be the case. It's not bad to grab a skill that does healing like momentum or brawler, since it also helps damage. Some healing can be helpful because there are a lot of trash mob damage or area effect damage that can add up if you have a bad tank or healer.
I would not grab skills like vigor for pve if you are a dps though. Pure healing skills should not be needed.
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>>163677673
>>163677758
still pretty sure it's not there but managed to find it in AUI options
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Do you level to max level solo in this game?
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>>163675202
Man I am going to be super disappointed when they get rid of the word filters and suddenly everyone is back to spouting le epin black man twitter meme

I like to think it's a qt little /a/non posting whenever I see that shit
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>>163678863
No.
You will run out of shit to do long before you hit CP561
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>>163659959
So once again the Thieves Guild outshines the other guilds lorewise?
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>>163677568
Sweet, thanks man.

What'd be the difference between Sorc and NB?
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>>163677674
Thanks a ton mate.

Love my casters, hate to have to slog through content
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>>163679096
How does leveling work? Never played
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Would you cuddle with Lyris?
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>>163680802
You earn a different kind of points for leveling past level 50 called champion points. They fill up constellations ala Skyrim and the more you level up the more xp you need but the more you progress the less things you could do to get xp
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>>163676005
>Pelinal
>skyrim baby
FUCKING ELF!
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>>163679173
Yeah, for one, the Thieves Guild and DB are the only DLC guilds, so they are better because of that alone due to effort.

Thieves Guild seems more interesting to most people than DB, but I like DB for the game mechanics.

>>163678863
Sort of. Once you get to champion levels (like prestige levels in other games or "overlevels), things eventually slow down. However, you can play another character to 50 and grind more CP levels there, since it's all account wide.

>>163679616
>What'd be the difference between Sorc and NB?
Sorcerer has 3 skilllines that are focused on 1) Storm magic, 2) Daedric summoning (like Skyrim Conjuration mostly), and 3) "Dark" magic.

Dark magic is not super dark or anything, but it plays like a "curse" tree from other rpg games. Daedric summoning is sort of like demonic summoning in a way. Storm magic is nothing like a necromancer though.

NB has 1) Assassination 2) Shadow 3) Siphoning.
Assassination is what it sounds like, so it's probably not very necromancy.
Shadow is decently necromancy, since it uses shadow stuff and plays thematically with "blood magic".
Siphoning is full on "blood magic" from other games including things like life draining and soul stealing.

Based on that description, you should pick the class that feels or might seem more fun to you. They are both viable for magic builds, and the effectiveness differences are not big.


Lastly, know that magic classes in this game can also tank. Magsorcerer and MagNightblade are both great tanks and better than their stamina versions for tanking. Playing a MagNightblade tank feels a lot like Blood DK from WoW actually.
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servers ded?

I was playing for a while @ 400-999+ ping for no fucking reason and now I'm getting timeouts when I try to log back in.

Fuck m8 it's Christmas and I just want to finish some daily missions before I have to get together with the family.
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Literally just installed the game, are the servers down or something?
Do I have to creatue an account on elderscrollsonline.com first before being able to play through steam?

Send help
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>>163683970
I'm on just fine in NA. Not sure where you are but it's likely just you.
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Are dolmens really the fastest way to gather experience points towards champion 160?

Im on champion 132 right now and I would want to hit 160 before finishing main quest line.
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This is probably a stupid question, but cancelling an ESO Plus membership just makes it so you don't get charged next month and still get the month you already paid for, right? The answer seems like it should obviously be yes, but I want to be triple sure before I do it because it somehow wouldn't surprise me if ZOS went ultra jew and ended it as soon as I clicked cancel and just took my money
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>>163688804
I do that every time I sub to eso. And have done for every mmo I've ever played since I once forgot to cancel a game I stopped playing like a huge retard. Yes. You get your month of crafting bag, your 1000 or 1500 or whatever it is zenishekels, and it tells you 29 days to go on sub.
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>>163688952
Yeah the last time I played I subbed to Plus but forgot to cancel for like 3 months, that's why I'm doing it immediately this time, I'll just resub again if I'm still playing in a month and still want it

Thanks anon, merry christmas
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Is the gold edition with the 35 dollars? Is this game dead and shit? Or is it Alive and okay.
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>>163689173

I got it during last free weekend and it is pretty alive, from what I saw. Didnt play PvP tho.

Previous deal (25 EUR) was much better, however.
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>>163689173
PvP is fucked but the game is pretty alive, leveling is fun and it's easy to get groups for PvE content and you'll come across other players in the world all the time
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What's your favorite spot for farming leather? I'm just using the bears in Bangkorai right now but I swear there are some spots with tons of mudcrabs and wolves, I just can't remember where
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>>163689353
So should I just wait until the game is on sale for cheaper then?

>>163689449
I've never been crazy about PvP anyways so that's fine. thanks
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>>163687915
good grinding spot can probably be better
if you're doing dolmens make sure you have no downtime, you're supposed to be clearing a dolmen or running to the next one, not standing like those tools at Auridon
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>>163689576
The crab people west of ebonheart is pretty nice
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>tfw just opened up my presents and now im waiting for christmas supper

time to play some eso!
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>>163690027
There's one other place I remember using a lot back before One Tamriel that should be even better now though

There was this ruined tower area with a quest to kill a bunch of undead, and after you finish the quest there, the enemies are replaced with a ton of grey wolves that respawn very quickly

I can't remember which zone it was in but I know it was a DC area

Does anyone know which place this is
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>Try dolmen runs yesterday
>Get 12k per dolmen, with New Life buff
>Try it today
>Get 6k with New Life buff

Now I just wonder why I keep getting less and less exp from dolmens everyday...
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>>163691220
you get a sizable bonus chunk of experience the first time you do a specific dolmen
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>>163691689

I was doing like 20 clearings yesterday on same three, so its not that.
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>>163691220
>>163691748
probably a bug with that mead buff
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>>163691220
>>163636969
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Cities are pretty empty today. Fucking normies.
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>>163649238
To play with friends and to have actual combat, you masterbaiter :^)
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>>163694451

>Combat is basically just the same plus dodge
>Feel like few times better

How Zenimax actually did it?
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>Want to finish the mages guild questline
>Still level 4

I wish there would be other ways than hunting for lorebooks. This is so slow, my warriors guild level is like 9, mages still at 4 and SLOWLY advance.
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>>163695031
Get a lorebook add-on m80
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So thinking about picking up this game, how is the lore?

Also, what the fuck did they do to elves?
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>>163695562

They made sure that players wont puke everytime they see one.

Dont forget of making orc waifu.
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>>163695692
They looked genuinely interesting before. Now they just look like humans with pointy ears.

New argonians look pretty nice though
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>>163696371
Mah boi ya gotta think aboot the casulz, ya dig?
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>did two of yesterday's pledges in a timely manner
>queued for fungal grotto II for two hours, nothing
>whatever, do it tomorrow
>queue up fgII
>pops quickly, but party disbands instantly
>fucking what
>continue to queue for it and today's dailies for another hour while barely anyone is on because they're spending time with their families on christmas
fug
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>>163697247
Ok, I finish Mother's Sorrow farm and got my grothdarr set. What jewelry do I use to replace willpower?
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>>163697247
>>163698174
Sorry, didn't mean to quote you, but I fell your pain.
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>>163696371
>They looked genuinely interesting before.
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>>163698939
Except Oblivion, fucking potato people
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>>163696371
>Now they just look like humans with pointy ears.
And antlers.
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Merry Christmas you fucking virgins!
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>>163700076

Were antlers ever an option in previous ES games for wood elves? I can't recall.
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>>163695562
>Ok I need you to design a bosmer
>What do they look like
>Here, have a look at the previous games
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>>163700335
Morrowind allowed you, but they were more like tumours than antlers.
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>>163698174
>>163698287
>two (you)s
>none of them meant for me
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>tfw already have the whole Skinchanger set learned so whenever I get another piece from a box I just offer it for free in zone chat and mail it to the first person to ask

Fuck these jews trying to hawk this shit for double the market price out here
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>>163695471
>tfw PS4
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>>163700374

Jesus, I forgot how terrible everything looked in Skyrim because i modded it.
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>>163696371
"Interesting" is a funny way of saying "ugly." They're more or less the same design wise, elves have huge almond-shaped eyes, sharp chins, pronounced arched eyebrows, etc. ZOS just smoothed their faces out so they're not a mess of wrinkles and dirt at even the youngest and smoothest settings.

>>163701198
It's kind of amazing how people in Skyrim look more dirty and diseased than the people in Fallout who literally live in a irradiated wasteland.
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>>163702065
that picture isnt as bad
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>Only event recipe I still need for the achievement is the Hissmir one
>Can't find it for less than 25k in guild stores

Is it really that rare
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What are the Pros and Cons of ESO?
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Does it even make a sense to train crafting on more than one character? I mean, all the traits researching and shit?
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>>163702878
No.
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>>163702797
Pros: It's a game that you can play
Cons: It's a game that you can play
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>>163702797
+Combat
+Fun content if you're a sucker for ESO lore
+Open world so you can do whatever the fuck once you're out of the tutorial, new players gets scaled to max level
+The sky's the limit on how good you can be
+PvP
-PvP
-Very easy to be shit if you don't know what you're doing
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>Everyone says to get addons like Advanced UI
>Download and turn it on
>Kill few enemies with it, disable right after

It felt confusing and totally out of place. Why you guys recommend that? I couldnt even move around my own buffs icons.
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>>163703557
I'm using one called S'rendarr, it just puts your active buffs in the bottom right and the enemy's active buffs and debuffs under their health bar, it's pretty nice
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>>163702784
seems so. I've listed at 20k, 25k and 30k, and they were all gone within a few hours. not sure I'll go for 35k on my next one, but all I'm losing is 350 gold if no one bites.
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>>163675202
Is it worse than White Gold Tower or Imperial City Prison? I've done Ruins of Mazzatun and it wasn't too bad.
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>>163627950
You sure you're past champion 20 and not level 20?
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>>163703424
>-Very easy to be shit if you don't know what you're doing
That's life though.
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Hey guys, just started. I'm going to try to build a magicka sorcerer pvp build. Is storm calling a good tree to invest in and use? Also, I farmed the beginning area and am collecting everything I can and holding it until I can dismantle it and get some crafting experience or however it works. Should I be doing anything else? I am just running around doing quests as well. I got a good staff it seems like, it has some sparks coming off of it which is cool.
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>>163704509
Hardly any point in hoarding stuff to break down if it's just white, as more than likely you wont get shit from it.
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>>163704807
So should I just sell it when I can?
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>>163704249
I'm 109 CP.
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>>163705072
only if it says 0 gold as its value. >>163704807 is wrong if they meant something else, decon everything you don't need for trait research. except ornate, that's better off sold.
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>>163705342
99% of the time if i deconstruct anything white, it doesn't give me anything, so it just takes up inventory space, which when you first start out is more valuable than anything you'd probably get from breaking them down or selling them anyway.
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>>163703557
AUI to health bar which turns yellow when HoT.
S'rendarr to track buffs.
BuffTimer to set a sound when my buff ends. I hide that fucking shit UI.
Combat Cloud to hear a sound when my stam/mag goes down.
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Do we have rotation on delves bosses spawn? I mean, like dolmens.
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>>163706805
If I'm looking for a simple buff addon that just has one icon per buff and tells me how many seconds are left, would you recommend S'rendarr or Bufftimer?

AUI shows 3 icons for a buff if the buff has multiple things they are buffing, and that really clusters up my screen.
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>my hardened ward has more health than I do
am I doing this right?
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>>163707450
S'rendarr. Or you can try AUI, turn off everything but buffs. It's just an icon with a timer.
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>>163702797
It's a very good open world exploration game. The quests are decent and voice acted.
It also makes leveling through questing/exploring very enjoyable. (At least for most people, and it's miles above other MMOs.
The combat is action, so it's better than tab targeting games like STWOR or WoW. At the same time, it also has more things going on than stuff like guild wars 2.
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>>163707574
when I used a skill like hurricane which buffed my physical resist, magic resist, and movement, it shows 3 icons for hurricane. Is there a way to make it so that it only shows one icon for each skill?
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>>163705528
even white items give decent crafting XP, unless their gold value is 0.
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>>163707820
S'rendarr has a filter. You write what buffs do you want to track and block everything else, or write what buffs you don't want. Install S'rendarr, it's what you need.
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>>163708059
>decent XP
>less than 100
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>>163708106
>unless their gold value is 0
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>>163708159
Even if they have a gold value, it's still shitty XP.
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>>163703718
You might as well try it, I saw a lot up for 40k+

I sure hope I get one out of boxes before this event ends, I'll be mad if I miss out on Magnanimous just from not having that
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>>163703557
I hated AUI too. Try LUI Extended.
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>>163707513
Yes, you're doing it very right.
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>>163707513

My MagSorc has less than 9000 health.
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>>163623348
Merry Christmas, Slapanon.
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>cp 159 DD
>normal dungeon finder
>instantly kicked "gtfo", player I have never met before
>15min cooldown

Is dungeon finder always this hell?
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>>163709896
Usually not. People don't usually get kicked from normal dungeons unless it's a DLC dungeon and their like level 10.
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>>163709993
Strange, it was fungal grotto
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>>163700374
Oblivion was a mistake.
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>>163709896
That's the problem with the 15 minute queue cooldown. Zenimax should really look into changing it.
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>>163702797
I've found that it's very immersive, especially for an MMO. See a sword on the ground? You can pick it up. See some food on the table? You can pick it up and eat it.

All that kind of stuff which are some little details makes me feel really into it and the combat is really good.

PvP is a shit right now, I'm waiting for Battlegrounds or Arenas but at least we have Dueling
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>>163710292
>can't choose not to queue for dungeons in progress
>don't need a reason to kick someone
Shit, get it together.
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>>163709896
Normal? Are you sure? I think it was vet. Take a look again, vet is default when you become a Champion.
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>>163709896
I had random Spindle II today where the tank wanted to kick one dd just because he was lvl11. Didn't even ask if it was an alt or anything just started a kick vote. And it was fucking spindle II and i was the lowest lvl with cp110 beside that guy. We still breezed trough it. After that i got Banished cells II with lvl13 tank and lvl11 and lvl30dd. I carried them and showed what to do and it was way more fun than that fast run of Spindleclutch.
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Speaking of elf looks, I fucking love option for bosmer antlers. I was disappointed 'cause skyrim and oblivion didn't acknowledge them.
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>>163709896
I literally spend half of my time in this game running random normal dungeons as I level alts, and I have never seen this happen.

I guess it's possible you're not lying, but 159 cp kicked from normal? Most players doing normal are lower than level 50 bro. You probably queued into dlc vet. I've ran enough vet dungeons with lower than 160 cp players too.
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>>163710607
>queue for a random dungeon at CP 40
>wonder why I keep getting one-shot by boss mechanics
>these bosses are dropping purples, guess i'm really lucky

It took me until the end of the dungeon to realize my mistake. I'm surprised I didn't get the boot as soon as I joined up.
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>>163710292
I don't understand why they implemented it the way they did. If I'm a healer and the group is so shitty that I know we simply won't be able to finish it, I'll play for 15 mins to get gear from the first boss and maybe a chest and then drop them like a sack of shit and find a new one instantly.

I'm not the ones getting fucked over, they're the ones since people are reluctant to join dungeons in progress.
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>>163711203
People are usually surprisingly tolerant in lfg groups. I think people going into it expecting noobs. More reason why >>163709896 is lying.
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>>163710669
having two low level dds when you're a tank can be really a slog
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Vvardenfell DLC?? I hope we get some of these helmets as motifs, collectibles and jewstore hats (I would buy for 400-500 crowns).
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>>163711203
>Spindle 1 HM pledge
>Low CP DPS leaves out of nowhere when we are 20 seconds away from the boss
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>>163711424
I'm expecting a DLC with nothing but fan-service and pandering whenever they get their shit together and at the very least announce it.
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>>163711424
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>>163711203
I did my first veteran this way, City of Ash I
got some clue because last boss was hitting a little harder than others I fought but still it wasn't util he dropped monster mask that I realized I'm on veteran
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>>163711628
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>>163711586
>Bad DPS disconnects
>Wow he probably quitted out of shame, I remember his name and let him know we had to move on so we don't look like assholes, email sent, let's find another dps
>Good DPS disconnects
>Ok let's wait 20 min, the game probably crashed and he may have other complications
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Is running as a h*aler a good way to do vet dungeons when you're just barely CP 160 and don't have the gear yet? I'm a sorc with a twilight and restore staff on back bar btw
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>>163711749
Same one I had. I guess CoA I is just really easy.
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>Champion 90
>Still only have 34 blacksmithing

This is painful, I'm advancing through equipment tiers far faster than my crafting skills can keep up
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>>163711945
>Restore
Resto*
fugging phone dictionary, not actually wrong though
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Should I just be running around doing quests or is there a main quest to follow or
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>>163712081
There are basically two 'main' questlines, there's your faction one that'll send you through the zones in proper order, and the molag bal story one where every 5 levels or so you get called back to the prophet

Just do everything in every zone as you come across it, but if you want to run around doing whatever that's viable now too, although you really should follow the 'main' faction questline because every big segment of it rewards you with an extra skill point
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>farm dolmen/kill mobs to level fighters guild
>chase fucking books to level mages guild
>legerdemain skill line is fun
>soul magic is shit
>best magicka undaunted skill requires level 5 and it's the last fucking skill
>inner fire is only level 3
>best magicka alliance war skill requires level 7 and it's the last fucking skill too

What's his name?
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>>163711945
Sure, I think Spindleclutch I is the best veteran dungeons for beginners because it's fairly easy while the last boss have an attack that easily instantly kills one random group member if you're not vigilant.

Remember to cast buffs such as combat prayer to help out your group.
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>>163712053
Ahhhh sissy!
2 best protips: steal from traders, launder and deconstruct or buy intricate armour/weapons at guild traders
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>>163712203
Cool thanks, I've played morrowind and oblivion, but not skyrim. This game is a little overwhelming with all the choices and shit
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>>163712416
B-but I want my monster sets
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>>163712448
But how are the poor traders going to make a living?
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>>163711762
>That one dunmer in Mournhold who tells you that times have changed and and she gave up on bonemold because it's not in fashion any more and now work as a carpenter for a living.
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>>163712282
You mean Eric 'Cuck the mage into a blind rage' Wróbel?
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>>163712448
My normal strategy would be buying lots of intricate rubedite armor, but I'm flat broke right now because I spent all my money on a bunch of other frivolous shit

I'm just gonna keep questing with my subpar gear and grind hard on crafting skills when I'm CP 160 and have cash again
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>>163712564
N'wah it's an idea about your first veteran dungeon to feel the difference between normal and veteran, afterwards you can farm whatever healing set you want to your hearts content.
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>>163712282
Sounds like Eric "The Knahaten flu was caused by the blue" Wrobel
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>>163712807
Magic destro/resto spec is a good pvp build right ?
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Should I get the Gold edition or just the unlimited? for my first time playing. They are both on sale.
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>>163713310
Sorc not spec I mean
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>>163713310
>magicka
>PvP
Nope
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So Stam Sorc is really good in PVP and PVE right?
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>>163702784
I'm just banking on the price eventually falling. Someone just posted it for 15 in zone chat. Although I'm still unsure of my price cap for being magnanimous
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>>163714215
Yes. StamSorc is GOAT.
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>>163714080
How come?
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>>163712735
>healing set
I just want to heal to not get kicked out of the dungeon, I want sets for PvP my man
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>>163714694
>>163713310
It's pretty good in BWB and even in higher campaigns I saw people 1vx'ing with it
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Why do some people prefer Skyrim over TESO?
Skyrim serves no other purpose than lore information and being twisted fantasy porn, fap vore, furry, waifu, vivec knows what simulator.
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>>163716426
Morrowind was better at lore
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>mfw see a thick player character
>didn't realize you could go that thick

Did they chance the appearance editor or something since launch because Surely I would have gone as thick as humanely possible I just thought eso had shit thickness settings.

>1000 crowns just to move like 3-4 sliders

So if I get an ESO subscription for 1 month I'll get 1500 crowns right? This is better if I want to get crowns then to just straight up buy crowns which are the same price but no ESO perks?
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>>163716624
I know, but it still gives us lore information on recent, current and upcoming events.
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>>163716686
>So if I get an ESO subscription for 1 month I'll get 1500 crowns right?
Yes

>>163716686
>This is better if I want to get crowns then to just straight up buy crowns which are the same price but no ESO perks?
Yes
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>>163716686
>Did they chance the appearance ... thickness settings.

No. set set the triangle thing to max fat.
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New article!
http://www.elderscrollsonline.com/en-gb/news/post/2016/12/22/thats-a-wrap-on-2016

>It's the end of another year – a great, great year for The Elder Scrolls Online. The goal for 2016 was to build on the success of our stupendously large console launch in 2015 by adding new content and continuing to improve the game by making system changes where necessary to keep the game fresh, fun, and cement ESO as being one of the best Online RPGs of all time. I think, in all honesty, we accomplished that goal.

>Consider this: At the beginning of this year, we had yet to launch amazingly good DLC like Thieves Guild and Dark Brotherhood. We had yet to bring out new dungeons as in our Shadows of the Hist DLC. We added fun character customization options and other utilities in the Style Parlor. And of course, at the beginning of 2016, the game was still level-based with players separated into three different Alliances, unable to communicate or group with one another – until One Tamriel launched, that is.

Is he right?
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How many times can I be seen before I am locked out of the "don't be seen" optional objective for heists?
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>>163631149
Could be a normal area as well.
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>>163717694
>Is he right?
Yes. Only thing that they fucked up was they jewery, crown only motifs, crown crates, FUCKING "STYLE PARLOR". WHERE IS MY FREE BARBERER. Only "meh" dlc was shadow of the hist. My personal favorites were One Tamriel, poison crafting and Gold coast. I cannot wait for housing and vvardenfell. In general updates were great.
>ESO as being one of the best Online RPGs of all time
I agree on this too.
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>>163717694
>best mmo
Yea sure
>best dlc and crown shit

This game is insanely expensive. I mean I guess that is the trade off for the no sub thing but like come on. it's like 5 dollars to get a stack of 5 potions that you could just craft in game and there is a chance that is would you would get from the random loot boxes. I would get some lootboxes if I wasn't so afraid of getting potions.

reeeee
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>>163718934
>I would get some lootboxes if I wasn't so afraid of getting potions.
You shouldn't be buying lootboxes at all but all consumables you get from the boxes can be traded for gems to use in the gem store.
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>>163718934
>insanely expensive
Not really. You pick up Gold Edition (which is what, 50 bux off sale?, 35 on sale?) and you have pretty much everything you need. After that it's all cosmetic fluff or a pair of dungeons that no one likes. It's a pretty cheap MMO, t b h.

>buying potions
>buying consumables from any game's cash shop
>ever
It is always, ALWAYS a trap for dumb goys.
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People actually have that $50 elk mount. That better be from stored sub crowns.

Anyone know what a runebox would be under in a guild store? Trying to figure if a mudpouch and towel could get me anywhere close to a fish-eye recipe
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>>163719476
It's a consumable.
Also I managed to find a fish-eye recipe for 3k, check around in remote areas
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>>163719476
>bought 3 packs of 15 crates
>got 3 different atronach mounts
>might not even bother to use them
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>>163694828
>How Zenimax actually did it?

Because it's not basically the same plus dodge. I do love the dodge and blocking mechanics but the fact that you have to be quick on your feet, as in you can't pause to change gear, drink potions and all that, makes it a whole other level of fun combat.
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>mfw people are literally playing the game with muddy textures and colors
>mfw playing an elderscrolls game without mods/enb/reshade

please tell me you guys don't do this
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>>163720824
>mfw people play games because of graphics and porn mods
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>>163720808
Plus no quicksave. You mess up, you mess up.
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>>163719476
>$50 elk mount
It's not even $30 mate
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>>163719476
>Anyone know what a runebox would be under in a guild store?
Should be under consumables.
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>>163720393
>want at least one atronach mount for my sorc because fuck yeah, lightning
>got a single crate and then 2 15-packs with stored sub crowns
>only notable drops were a wizard's hat, the hedge wizard cap, a dog and one of the battlemage outfits

Fuck.

>>163720808
>as in you can't pause to change gear, drink potions and all that,
This, holy shit. I always feel like I'm fucking cheating when I pull up the inventory and chug fifteen health potions.
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how do I get the double xp fro this holiday event?
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>>163721221

idk why you're still talking about the $60 elk mount some people are willing to spend $70 on a mount and for others $80 is a lot. Personally I wouldn't be caught dead spending $90 on a mount.
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>>163722443
Get to the New Life tent in northern Skyrim and drink from the keg.
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>>163722443
For the mead keg near Brenda.
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>>163722605
>>163722632

thanks
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>>163722041
desu senpai I wanted the wolf, cat, or horse mount, ended up getting the bear, camel, and guar
If I could trade them, I'd give you one of your choosing.
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Okay, time to post characters! Tell something about them and rate the look of previously posted character. This is character is dunmer pyromancer named Theldyn Sero. He comes from dunmer family line full of mages and spellswords. He found the rare rosy netch when he was at Molag amur doing research on igneous rocks and training his magical skills.
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Did they add a Running Walk gait walk-cycle to the horse recently or am i just seeing this now?
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>>163723731
I bought one 15 crate pack and got the storm wolf. I wanted the cat, but I decided to stop since wolf is the second best after the cat. I'm just happy I didn't get the camel, bear, horse, or guar.
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Whats the difference between a cp160 piece of armor and a cp150 piece. Is it really necessary to spend 10 times the materials?
Is there a noticeable stat loss with a cp150 piece?
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>>163722041
>This, holy shit. I always feel like I'm fucking cheating when I pull up the inventory and chug fifteen health potions.

Indeed.
That has always turned me off from TES games. The constant pausing breaks my immersion.
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>>163724076
I like it/10

This is Nearly-Omelette. He got dropped as an egg and isn't the brightest argonian around.
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>get a few /tesog/ guild members to run pledges with me
>spindleclutch
>tank is a cp700+ madman charging straight through everything without stopping
>realize halfway through that we're running vet, not normal
>mfw never done any vet before
>mfw we start the fight with the scroll
>mfw after several wipes
Well this was a clusterfuck. Dropping my ward for even a moment would mean getting one-shot by shit that came straight out of nowhere. Are all vet bosses like this? I can handle aoe indicators and basic mechanics, but this was some straight-up bullshit. The tank eventually ragequit, which was a bit of a relief because he was also a bit of a cunt, and our healer had to leave, but we could clear it with replacement with a little more ease. Still, at that point I almost spent more time refreshing hardened ward than actually keeping up my dps. It was almost sort of worth it just to see trainwiz rage, though.

Is there something I need to have or be able to do before reliably pulling off vet dungeons? I'm cp190 magsorc, full purple gear, I eat food to get my health to 17k and have about 40k magicka, I do the whole elemental blockade+liquid lightning deal, force pulse and crystal frags with light attacks weaved between them, I put up my ward as much as I can even when I'm not being attacked. I do use winged twilight matriarch, mostly because I have it and clannfear out for soloing with the necropotence set, but I swap out clannfear for inner light and use daedric prey along with the ground aoes. My DPS meter shows me anything between 8k-14k depending on how much I have to worry about surviving, which seems like it isn't enough. What exactly do I need to git gud?
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Reminder that vRoM a hell.
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>>163724076
Andre, my old Templar alcoholic that fancies himself a mage.
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>>163724918
Oh, right. Also: I only got one key after going through all that trouble. What did I do wrong?
I did get the mask, though. It was useless to me.
And why do I keep getting troll-king shoulders when all I want is ilambris or infernal maw?
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>>163722539
Okay so you're just retarded. Good to know.
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>>163722539
OYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY VEEEEEEEY
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>>163724918
You don't really need a ward for that boss fight. Everything is about mechanics and having a decent reaction time in veteran dungeons.
>Tank makes sure the boss is faced away from everyone
>Whenever the boss turns around, dodge-roll to be on the safe side
It's that simple senpai
Once you're familiar enough you'll be able to see when it's aiming towards you. What's killing you is the blue ball with the *woosh* sound (followed by venom spit directly after once she's down to 30% health iirc).
Switch your pets with bound aegis and inner light for more damage.

>>163725240
Did you read the scoll on the attempt when you won?
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>>163725453
Isn't there a room-wide aoe? With all the illusory spiders coming down and shit? I never saw the tell for that, but everyone gets hit.
Then again
>tank makes sure the boss is faced away from anyone
I don't even remember if he did that. Shit was all over the place and he wasn't really doing that good a job about surviving either, losing more than half his health on several occasions. Tanks are supposed to take very little damage and keep blocking, right?
>did you read the scroll
I don't even remember, probably not. Someone else must have, because we all did this animation where we'd shout and grab our heads and shit and then the scroll was gone. Maybe we forgot that last time.
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>>163724918
>Are all vet bosses like this?
No.
When you activate Hardmode scroll Spindle 1, Banished Cells 1, Wayrest 1 final bosses all have shit that will fuck you up randomly and out of nowhere, whereas Spindle 2 final boss is EZ shit that even CP10s can do, Banished Cells 2 boss is just annoying because of adds and Wayrest 2 'hardmode objective' is not even worth mentioning

For that specific Spindle fight you just dodge when she fires the random attack at you, easy shit once you get the hang of it unless you get targeted like 4 times in a row

You got only 1 key because you didn't do it on hardmode
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>>163725867
This is from memory since I haven't done the dungeon in over a month, but iirc

>Isn't there a room-wide aoe? With all the illusory spiders coming down and shit?

The aoe originates from the boss and grows into a big circle directly under her. If the tank has her in a corner it shouldn't be a problem. The tank should try to position her so that she's as far from any mage dps and healer as possible while still have room to roll out of the aoe.

Can't comment on the tanks since there's so many factors playing a part in how well you perform.

>>163726069
>Wayrest 1

It's like someone saw people bitching about nightblades on the pvp forum and decided to make a boss out of it.
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How do I make low level armor post One Tamriel? I didn't save any iron, and now I don't know where to get it. I just want to make armor with the trainer perk for my new character
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>>163727003
Buy it or get it from daily writs.
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>>163726703
She seems happier with Sheo
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>Zone chat
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>>163727184
Don't those give you around your current level?
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>>163729329
Nah, you get a box that has a random level of lower level ore

My champion 100 got a box of ebony today and dwarven yesterday
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>>163729028
>Tavern chat
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What town should I use for parking characters that I use as storage? Basically I'm asking which town has a bank right next to a stable so I can transfer items and still get riding training on those characters without a long ass loading screen?
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>>163729028
Worse than Barrens chat
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>>163732241
Buy the banker assistant, really the best solution in that case.
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>>163731478
>>163729028

>walk near tavern
>plan on cooking some food
>bombarded by a wall of purple emote text
>stay and read it due to my morbid curiosity
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>>163724918
That tank really was an asshole
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Akavir expansion when?
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>>163734385
That's what you get for using pugs
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Popped my Vet Dungeon cherry tonight. Got my first monster mask. Looks neat. I'll have to get into doing pledges more often now.
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>>163735259
>tempest island and darkshade 2 are the pledges
Good mother fucking luck with that
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Just got the Xbone copy for $5, what am I in for?
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>>163736269
Skyrim Online but not really
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>>163736269
Skyrim online but kinda gayer
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>>163736269
Skyrim online but with guns
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>>163736331
>>163736371
How is it for people who get burnt out on most MMOs?
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>>163736436
Well, would you get burnt out on skyrim, but online with other people, only kinda gayer?
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>>163736505
I mean, I hope not.
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>>163736269
>tripfag
The best PvP experience ever complete with a purely skilled no cheapshit addons/tactics group of people just like yourself
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>>163736527
To be fair, I normally hate PvP in MMOs because it's a loot check.
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>>163736525
Then you'll enjoy TESO.

In all actuality, I got burnt out when my character was in the 40's, hit level cap, and now I only come back every day to train my horse
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>>163735525
>tempest island and darkshade 2 are the pledges
Thinking about doing them just to remind myself why I stopped doing veteran dungeons with pugs
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>>163736597
It's weird, I had the opposite experience, I usually burn out on MMOs long before max level, but in this game I'm up to CP 100 now and not really slowing down and working my way through Cadwell's Silver and Gold, and I actually have an alt character too, I almost never do that either

I don't know what it is exactly but I find this game's combat and general balance and progression a lot more fun than the typical MMO
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>todays pledges

m-merry christmas
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Hey guys, sorry for the dumb question but..

In your experience, what's a decent minimap addon that also shows lorebooks? I don't care about skyshards as much, but I guess that'd be nice too.

The website lists so many, and they all have good ratings, so I'm a little lost on which one's good.

I just want something simple and nice for lorebook and convenience.
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>>163737391
http://www.esoui.com/downloads/info288-LoreBooks.html
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is there any way to use a 2hander with a magicka build?
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>Auction houses are guild based
What the fuck am I supposed to do for money?
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>>163739249
Join a guild that has a guild store. You can join five, so why not?
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>>163740512
>joining a guild
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>>163741320
>being an antisocial fucktard in an MMO
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>>163741365
>hanging out with faggots
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>>163741430
Who say's you have to hang out with them? Just use the guild to sell shit and hawk your wares to guild bitches, buy their shit cheap, sell it for more at other guild stores, rinse & repeat.
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>>163738932
Not a single one.
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did they increase the difficulty of vet dungeons with One Tamriel? on one hand I hear people were able to solo them, and on the other you have people saying it's hard to complete them even as a team
not talking dlc, just any vet II
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>>163743432
>and on the other you have pubshitters saying it's hard to complete them even as a team
FTFYTBH
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>>163746059
if it's the case of getting gud then the best players are really on a whole another level
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>>163747360
Yes they are on another level, did vRoM with a group and we didn't even wipe on the last boss.
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>get new keyboard
>load up eso
>when ever I press W it goes mental and act like I'm spam clicking it, no other key is doing this
>it only happen if I press W on its own, if I press W and tap A or D it's fine and will work normally
>such a specific fuck up that I can't even google it to find what going wrong
JUST fucking kill me
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>>163748545
if it acts the same on a different PC then it's a factory defect
rebind to esdf I guess
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>>163749992
Just done some more testing, seem every key will act like it's being pressed several times rather than being hold down. Like I just put rally on mouse button, it will active once and wont go off again until I release and press the button again but when mapped to keyboard I press and hold the key down and rally will just keep going off again and again.

>muhh mechanical keyboard meme
fuck you /g/
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>>163750225
fucked up, try different drivers maybe
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how to check your group members DPS using combat metrics? all I see is my own DPS and for the whole group
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>>163750593
You can't, but I generally assume the tank is doing 500 and the healer 1k.
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>>163750593
A mod should be possible that shows everyone else's minus your dps
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>>163750280
seem I'm getting key chatter on every single key but it fine when typing/single key presses, it's just when holding a key down.
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>>163725089
>black hand robe, patriarch beard, and wizard hat
my wizza/10

Miralbus, the daedric summoner. His favorite spell is hardened ward. Currently trying to recruit a daedroth to his squad. His only regret is that his scamp doesn't match the color scheme.
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>We'll talk more about our 2017 plans early next year, but most of you already know about Homestead which introduces player housing. This will be launching in February, and you can expect to see it on the PTS very early in the new year.
I bet this is code for "14th of January"
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>>163757479
At least I can get a handle on how the crafting system will work before it goes live, so I know what mats to jew everyone on during launch day.
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>>163759698
I'm terrified that the UI will be total shit.
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>Imperial Legion operating in the Alik'r Desert and Lower Bangkorai while the Imperial City and Cyrodiil in general are completely fucked.

What do they hope to accomplish?
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>>163761404
Play through the quests and you'll find out.

The legions in Bangkori and Alik'r are part of the Tharns' faction, the part of the Imperial govt that serves Molag Balg directly. The Imp city being fucked is EXACTLY how they want it.
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Do I need to worry about what skills to purchase in a skill tree tree? I know I will not be using particular skills but at endgame will there be a crunch for points or will it not be a problem to get all skills in say dark magic daedric summoning destro staff and storm calling?
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When is Sexlab support coming?
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>>163762534
theres a load of skill points to get and respec is very cheap until you're well into the game
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>>163762713

With the house DLC.
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>>163762761
Thanks
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>>163762534
You can go to faction capital (way rest, mournhold, graft wood) temples to respec all skill points or re-morph abilities. Both of them are fairly affordable assuming you're not doing it every day.

Even if you don't go out of your way to hunt for skill points, you also get way more than enough skill points just by playing normally. You should be able to comfortably level up all three class skill trees, and two weapon skills, some guild passives without much hassle.

Skill points feel the most tight on new characters, so you can be a little more selective early on. However, as you level, do dungeons, and do quests organically, you will eventually feel flooded with skill points.
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>>163763484
Great thanks. Doing random quests and the main whet is good for leveling, correct? I don't know what I'm doing so I'm just running through it
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>>163761404
Those are spoilers. I can say I enjoyed the Bankorai Imperial storyline after I had done all the DC missions since I'm a sucker for plot twists.
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>>163760492
Idk, ui got to pretty good already if it allows for 100% freedom of movement of furniture, with it not being snapped in place tash tier.

PRO TIP: If anyone looking play PTS and has never played it before download it now because they make you download the entire 80gb the first time at like 200kb limit but after that you can just get the patch on PTS launch

T. Anon who downloaded live game at 20mb
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>>163763618
Yes, definitely run the dungeon at least once for the bonus. Dungeons give good exp for leveling also because each dungeon has a quest that awards a skill point and a lot of exp. The better drops from it also helps your killing speed.

I recommend just do whatever you please through the game to level. Especially if it's your first or second character, I don't recommend grinding or dolmen running. It's not that fun and arguably not even faster. Exploring and questing also gets you lorebooks, sky shards, and waypoints too.
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>>163763845
Can you give me a spoiler or idea on what the plot twist is? I haven't really played my DC character recently, and I've done glenumra and storm haven.
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>>163750956
I'm a healer and do 14k single target.

Hope I'm helping ;_;
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>>163764832
Is there a beginner dungeon somewhere? I'm a high elf and haven't run into any yet. I'll google it if I know the name, thanks
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>>163767415
Just do LFG so you get the daily random dungeon exp. just stay out of red things and you should be fine as a dps.

Otherwise, banished cells 1 is good and will finish your undaunted quest
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Gaining CP seems to be such a slog. How do you guys do it.
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>>163762534
By endgame you'll have a ridiculous surplus of skill points if you've been using skyshards and doing the faction questline

My level 50 has two fleshed out skill bars, a lot of passives, and points in every crafting skill and I still have like 10 unused skill points just sitting there

I recommend just putting points into whatever sounds cool or good to you for your first character and doing a respec either when you're finding combat really hard or you're at endgame and want to switch to a popular good build
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>>163767872
I'm up to 100 just from exploring and doing quests in my second faction zone and I'm still only halfway through Auridon

Unless it slows down like crazy I feel like I should be nearing the cap by the time I finish Cadwell's Gold
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>>163768124
>Unless it slows
Since you're still at the 100's you probably still have that enlightenment bonus you get when you first his champion levels, so yes, it will slow down a lot
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I hate darkshade II so much.
Who the fuck thought any of this was a good idea?
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>>163771613
why
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>>163771613
darkshade II and city of ash II with randoms is so much suffering
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>>163771613
>>163772092
That's what easymode is there for lads
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>>163772049
because >>163772092
The first boss isn't so bad, but I still hate it out of principle. The second boss is the most retarded, tedious, boring shit ever. The last boss is just a chore because of the poison and usually the healer can't heal through it, and the others can't hit the switches in time, if they try at all.
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JUST
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>>163773891
I'm really struggling to get in to this game. What should I do? Are there any good things to steal in the game?

What do you do?
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>>163724405
Enchantment. You get more hp/stamag points. And you increase you e-penis linking in chat a cp160 gold shitty piece.
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>>163775202
About how many Magicka points would I lose with a full cp150 set vs a full cp160 one?
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>>163743268
so all mag builds just use 2 destro staves?
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>>163771613
Git gud, shitter.
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>>163775363
How do I suppose to know? I'm not MagGyver. But, think, if you're Altmer or Breton, you have 10% more magicka plus light armor passive. So, if your character has magicka bonus, just do it.
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>>163775363
>>163776828
And use kuta on 160cp crafted armor, don't be a nigga using purple, please.
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>>163765374
Tell me your sets, my dear.
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>feel like my dps isn't any good
>obtain ilambris shoulders and head and swap back to thief mundus
>dps jumps up by 10k
oh ok then
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>mfw always wondering why you die in pvp brawls
>finally get midas pvp alert
>1 in 3 fights you'll hear the attack from stealth noise go off like 8 times in a row
hmm... really makes you think.
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>Wandering Wrothgar
>Get flagged down by a near dead woman
>Last of her order, wants me to fight my way through a werewolf cave to save her Order's banner
>tfw I'm a werewolf and there's no option to turn her or run her through with her stupid banner
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>>163780004
Being a werewolf or vampire has a disappointing lack of effect on quests and dialog.

The small piece of dialog from that chick in the brotherhood was kinda cool though.
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>>163778313
Get yourself some Julianos + Willpower sets, and have something that grants major sorcery
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>>163782101
This.

It is really nice when it DOES remember though. Pic related - it's really nice that as a werewolf you get this little aside where he shits on this coven for being weak and challenges you to prove your prowess over this other dude.
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>>163779923
What did Zenimax say about this addon? If they won't remove, I want that team mate damage meter addon available again.
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>>163784513
Wrong thread. This is for /tesog/ for ESO, a good game, not Oblivion. You want /tesg/ for that
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>>163784513
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>>163774413
There tend to be locked boxes in guilds and in houses belonging to nobles that have stuff fetching for a decent price.
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>>163784685
>>163784648
>/tesg/ gotten so bad even /tesog/ able to talk shit about them
>even trainwiz left them for us
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Where does one actually find Imperial crafting motifs?
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>>163772519
I use the group finder for the daily xp, no easy there mode, just normal and hard. Besides, my complaint isn't about them being difficult for me, but for the randoms I get queued up with. Over half the time the designated healer and tank won't do their jobs and I will be forced to do all those roles (thank the divines I use a templar), other times I get queued up with new players that don't know you can use abilities and just spam light/heavy attacks. I'm not trying to bash on the activity finder, if it weren't for that I wouldn't have done most of the dungeons I've done, but what I am trying to say is that it needs some work. Just last night I was trying to complete the last dwarven boss in dsII and I got queued up with some retards that were claiming to have been stuck on the last boss "for over two hours". I told them about the levers and tried to coordinate that, but it didn't work, fine. then I told them I could just outheal the poison damage and told them to stick close to me so I could heal them. After explaining to them nearly 4 times that my healing ability was an AOE and they needed to stick close to me I just gave up and closed the game. Instead of sticking close to me to heal them they would just wander off and try the lever shit again, unable to follow simple directions. Before leaving all three of them were talking amongst themselves claiming that the boss was "impossible to do". They're right, it's impossible to do with a team full of mongoloids like them. I'm nowhere near the point where I can start soloing II dungeons yet, only 260 cp with really shit gear, so I guess I'll have to suffer through some more of this shit for quite a while.
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Does champion skills have dimishing returns?

I mean, should I continue to pump all points into one or I should spread them evenely across constelation?
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>>163786504
They do. Most people claim it's not efficient to put more than 30 points in most of them. It all just depends on what kind of character you want to make.
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>>163786504
I don't think there any diminishing returns, a lot of build you'll see like "reduces cost of abilities by X" and it'll be cranked up to max with points to spare.

I'd pretty happy if zos's first step towards balance was just to straight half every champion point value
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>>163786504
Yes. Once you've put 37 points in one, you've acquired half the max bonus.
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>>163786898

In duneons Im mostly the healer, so I was just pumping points into Lady's "Light Armor Focus", Lover's "Arcanist" and Apprentice "Blessed", but I was thinking if Im doing it really wrong or not.
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>>163777092
Seducer + Worm Cult and Willpower with spell power enchantments.
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>>163785557
It's a complete book, and it's just very rare.
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>>163789254
But where do you find it?
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>>163765374
You're probably doing OK. I basically run this and switch it with class skills when needed when playing as a healer so I don't have a very high dps output.

Spell Power Cure and Infallible Mage.
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>>163789458
Random containers all over Tamriel.
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>>163789594
Okay, where's a good place to find tons of containers?
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>>163789658
The ground, I'm not fucking joking.
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>>163789658
Everywhere. When I say container, I mean every kind of wooden box, bureau and chest.

I wouldn't recommend trying to farm for it since it's pretty rare. I've player for over 2 years and grab pretty much all stuff in all containers and it have never dropped for me.
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>>163789658
Tamriel
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>>163790092
Pity it's a bitch even to try and find to buy.
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>>163790847
I think I saw one on one of the Belkarth traders today, just browsing to see what gold motifs were available.
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>>163792858
Yeah, for like 70k, which is way too high.
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I kinda miss pre-One Tamriel when my squishy stamblade could solo most every world boss without having to kite them with a bow for half an hour
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How many crowns Vvardenfell DLC will cost?
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>>163796396
Since there has been rumors (by a bunch of literal who, but still) that it will be an actual expansion pack (Vvanderfell zone + Warden class + Clockwork city zone and trial) I'd say at least 5k crowns, but if it ends being just a DLC I bet it'll end the same price as Orsinium.
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>>163796789
>new class

pls no. Maybe if they made it like FF 14 where I can freely switch so I'm not forced to make multiple characters. Or if they introduce class respec. What kind of autist is going to want to replay the same quests and areas again and again.

Just introduce new skills for current classes and more obtainable skill lines like the guilds that aren't almost all passives.
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>>163797275
True, this is about the most alt unfriendly MMO ever.
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>>163797275
>What kind of autist is going to want to replay the same quests and areas again and again.

But you could level up in the new zones with the new class?
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>>163799083
>new zones
>spending the entirety of a characters full progressions in a new updates provided zones

Can't wait to go 1-160 over 1-2 zones

no thanks m8
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>>163797275
>What kind of autist is going to want to replay the same quests and areas again and again

Just grind, level up and travel to another guild mate. But still have to read lorebooks.
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>>163621558
>recently purchased game
>cruising through main quests
>finally meet queen
>it's some dyke
>ask her why they tryna kill er
>DEY RACIST
>ask how she met razum dar
>hehe xd we totes didn't have sex
>this is supposed to be a queen of royal high elf blood
I'm about to reroll my Altmer, tha fuck. Nasty ass queen bitch unmarried
Please tell me I can serve molag bal
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>>163799450
>Can't wait to go 1-160 over 1-2 zones

You do realize champion points carry over, right? I'm certain you could get through the lion's share of leveling to 50 over 2 zones.

If it's really that big of issue, having to play the game and such, then just don't create a new character if the new class comes out. Means you can play even less of the game, because apparently that's what you want.
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>>163799752
>>163799083
Why try to defend the introduction of a new class and re grinding when just having access to all classes and abilities on one character is clearly the superior model. The only negative is that the company has to produce more frequent content since players are force to back track and replay or have their old content overlap.

Having to create more characters is a relic of the past. WoW ruined everything.
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>>163800052
Sometimes you want to roleplay with new name new look new faction
Having all classes on 1 feels kinda lazy but at the same time depends on the game and how it ties storyline in with leveling
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>>163800052
>just having access to all classes and abilities on one character is clearly the superior model
Bullshit.

That just homogenizes the experience for everyone, making one (1) meta build the only thing anyone will let you follow for endgame groups. The game's already dangerously close to that nonsense with how cookie cutter DPS gear sets and skillbars are. WoW had a strong meta, but at least if you wanted to run with pets you could roll a class where they were used, unlike here where they 100% diminish DPS.

You can literally do every role exceptionally well by having 1 dragonknight and 1 templar, if that's too many characters for you then I don't know what to say
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>>163800052
This is a real shitty opinion.
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Thinking of getting back into an MMO and TES:O crossed my mind -- missed it last Steam sale so now thinking of picking it up here. Being very cautious though, because of all the negative stuff I heard a few years back.

I was never much of a WoW person. I have The Secret World, which didn't really click for me, neither did Guild Wars 2, and have played FFXIV and enjoyed that.

I also RP every now and then and was wondering how that community is?
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>>163800023
Then drop her like like a hot potatoe and take a boat over to DC and serve the one and only king instead of rerolling.
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>>163801764
It has the most active RP community I've ever seen in an MMO, and they know this so they have a lot of emotes and shit, it's very RP friendly and there's a pretty large community for it

Personally, I've played FFXIV, Runescape, Dofus, and Ragnarok among others, and ESO is my favorite MMO overall, they fixed most of the things that made it suck at launch
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I've got a Chattering Skull (Collectible), does this do anything or do I just sell it?
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>>163797275
I'm not really that happy about a new class but that's not due to the grind, but because I'd rather have them working on mixing up the current meta and give each class more respectable options.

What's been datamined (keep in mind that this is leftovers from when it got scraped during alpha) is

>Winter's Embrace
>Green Balance
>Animal Companions

So probably ice spells, healing and syphoning, and pets.

If they somehow manage to make "animal companions" non-shit while leaving the sorcs pet to continue be leftovers from Oblivion's special ed class I can't be held responsible for my actions. Same if they introduce some shit in "green balance" that introduce a magicka version of shards.
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>>163802081
It's cursed, selling it or throwing it away (not sure if you can throw it away any more) gives you a huge debuff that can't be cured unless you collect a new chattering skill.

There's a necromancer in each zone that can help you lay the skull to rest (mournhold, wayrest and elden root respecitvely) found somewhere outside of the city.
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>>163801764
It's literally my favorite MMO of all time, and I've played WotLK extensively, GW2, runescape, and some SWTOR.

It has a really strong and good RP community.
They definitely fixed most of the negatives that came with release. The game is very action focused, yet it still retains specialized roles/classes like a traditional MMO. The world is fun to explore (for most people anyways), and there are generally enough things to do for solo and group content.
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>>163800647
>Implying you can do exceptionally well dps without StamsORC.
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>>163802748
>>163801936

Thanks for the replies. Nice to hear about RP the RP. One step closer to that purchase button.

I saw that the Thieve's Guild and DB were DLC's though. What does that mean if I want to play a stealthy character, will there be a place for me if I just bought the base game?
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>>163801773
How do i do that and what is DC
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I'm interested in a Magicka self-sustaining tank. Templar and NB both caught my eye since they can both heal themselves for WB purposes or if the healer goes down.

Between the two, which can one do you think is better at surviving without a healer?

I already have a DK tank which is great and have a Stamsorc dps, and I wanted to try one of the other two classes.
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>>163803092
>What does that mean if I want to play a stealthy character, will there be a place for me if I just bought the base game?

Yea, you'll still be able to steal, pickpocket, and sell your goods to less reputable vendors. The one thing you'll be missing out is the Blade of Voe from dark brotherhood, allowing you to instantly kill humanoids from behind if unseen (including daedras) but at the cost of barely any xp.

Both TG and DB are pretty stealth-focused and provides stealth-based quests (such as stealing an item in a dungeon within a time limit or killing a specific person in Tamriel without anyone seeing you) but there's nothing stopping you from being a dick ass theif in the base game.
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>>163803092
You can do a lot of stealth for RP purposes or fun in the base game, but thieves guild and DB DLCs feature actual missions where you need to be stealthy along with two skill lines that help you out.

You won't be screwed, but those 2 DLCs are really fun if you're into stealth. I'd look into it on sale down the line if you can grab them.
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>>163803359
DC is the Daggerfall Covenant. There should be an anchor icon in your zone's main city. Look around and see if you can find any of the boats that takes you to another alliance, there should be at least one taking you to Daggerfall.
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>>163803092
If you don't mind spending money there, you can get the game on G2A for like 10 bucks
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Thanks anons. See you in game (or not)! Will probably pop in here every now and then to ask questions about mechanics and whatnot.
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>>163804205
Oh shit really? Well, my only spending money this Christmas season is Steam money but thanks anyways.
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Is there any reason to keep these treasure maps?
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>>163804482
W-w-wrong thread
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>>163804220
Consider checking out
http://pastebin.com/p6ju4fTx
the game can be pretty overwhelming
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>>163800052
Good Lord, what are you doing here, son? Just go play Call of Duty.
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>>163804921
Tell me if I need to keep these treasure maps faggot.
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Twice Born Star or Mother's Sorrow? It's an Altmer Sorcerer, endgame.
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>>163805178
If it's the treasure maps you get from buying the explorer's pack, they're pretty useless. If it's treasure maps dropped from chests, store them in the bank until you reach cp160 or sell them.
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>>163804482
>Tfw remember when this image was first made
>laughed at it and the ludicrous thought of an ES MMO
>now I find myself playing and loving one
>players look about this fucking ridiculous and talk almost like this (adjusting for the the drift away from 1337 speak anyways).

Man. If only I'd known.
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How do we move away from the monster helmet meta? Monster helmets are great but it's silly how I'm selling all my head motifs because I know I'll never ever craft a head piece.
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>>163805665
Give them drawbacks.

Stupid powerful velidreth procs should come with reduced stamina recovery or weapon damage, not added weapon damage.

Doesn't even have to be a massive drawback, just something to not make it a clear winner like molag kena/pirate skeleton or something wasteful like major ward/resolve from chudan.
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What's a good PvP gear for a mag sorc? Also a few questions:

1) should I ever hard cast frags? My rotation usually is curse - hard casting frags - light attack/crushing shock weave; all three usually hit around the same time but I'm vulnerable while casting frags.

2) is it worth it to run Healing Ward if I already use the Twilight? Also should I use Boundless Storm or another ward (Harness Magicka)? As it is I only use Hardened + Twilight heal

3) How to counter a good magicka sorcerer?
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Is the Dark Brotherhood the shitty kind like from Skyrim or the cool kind from Oblivion?
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>>163802507
Holy shit haven't laughed that loud from a 4chan post in a while
Exactly the type of bullshit I tell people when they ask random shit in zone
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>>163810670
There are challenge missions where you're ordered to kill a target in a certain way optional objectives for better rewards.
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>>163810670
Can't really compare it to anything. It's more an emotional drama where people deal with what joining the Dark Brotherhood demands out of you, while there's a Sithis vs Akatosh thing going on in the background.
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If I play qt healers in other games how will I fare in this game
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Okay seriously we could've been friends
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>>163812585
So I can't worshop or side with daedra in this game
I cant choose to help mennimarxo
Another generic heres ur villain mmo i see nice
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>>163812116
in what, PVP?

depends on your build, obviously
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>>163733926
>>163729028
at least they keep that ERP shit inside the inns

Zone chat can be amusing sometimes, I once saw people in Mournhold discussing presidential elections, without being total /pol/ or SJW
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>>163804220
which server are you playing at? There is NA and Europe. We have our own tesog guilds too
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>>163813845
It can also sometimes be bumfuck retarded, yesterday I saw a guy in Auridon saying that nuclear energy and power plants is the same thing as nuclear weapons and should be banned
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>Fuckshade Caverns II

Okay, little advice needed. I seem to die easy now with a reddy lvl44 StamDK alt during poison phase of the guardian boss even on normal. Too easily, maybe I should slap on some health enchantments or invest little on health? I almost felt bad for people constantly reviving me. How should stamDKs focus their gear and attributes?
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>>163815603
>poison phase
Stack healer
>still die
Get a better healer
Or
>I have -20k health
Yes, you need more health - assuming you're a tank
>not a tank
See start
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>>163815998
oh fuck, I forgot to mention I'm DPS stamDK

so going full stam is right?
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>>163816089
>so going full stam is right?
Yep. Unless you are behind a pillar or on the other side of the arena or something it's all on the healer for that boss.

I've done a 10~+ minute fight as a tank for Darkshade 2 normal where I had to buy Grand Healing and equip a resto staff I picked up off the ground because the healer wasn't powerful enough to heal us even when we stacked
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>>163813428
>can't worship Daedra
No, you're just only allowed to worship the best ones. :^)
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>>163815603
how much health do you have?
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>>163815603
During the poison phase, cling like ivy on the healer. If you still die despite being in range of the healer, kick healer because he's shit.
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>>163814018
I'm from NA, so probably there. It's not like WoW where there's a list of a bunch of servers? I have friends from EU who play(ed) this game and was planning on asking them if they wanted to help me out, but if I choose one region am I "locked" from the other?
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>>163817585
>if I choose one region am I "locked" from the other?
You can play on both servers but NOTHING carries across, not even DLC depending on how it was bought (I think stuff you get alongside the game copy (Gold Edition etc) is kept but nothing after)
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>>163817907
So it's basically just keeping two separate characters in the different regions?
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>>163621558
How is the Ebonheart Pact doing in PvP nowdays on PC EU?

Is it worth making a character there or are they shit and I should stay away?

On the forums some people said that they are least populated faction but I see shitloads of them and elaborate at night at 4:00 they had 2 bars on Trueflame.
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>>163818949
>Is it worth making a character there or are they shit and I should stay away?
Who has the advantage change frequently enough that you shouldn't pick alliance based on it. Think it was half a year ago EP dominated both Trueflame and Azura.
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I'm not max level yet and I just want to make infinite gold so is it safe to say I should sell all the kuta I have in my bank. Each sells for like 4-4.5k apparently and if I used it for crafting at my level it would just be a waste right so I might as well.
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>>163822224
You probs want to save it for when you get a good bit of gear - you should be able to find someone to make glyphs with it
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>>163822224
just wait until you get max level and can farm for sets or find a place to farm motifs since those aren't level effected and people pay crazy sums of gold for some motifs.
If nothing else and you need cash sell 200 size stacks of mats since people buy them in bulk unrefined to try and get upgrade materials out of them.
If you don't mind running to the ass ends of nowhere you can also look for items at the ass end of nowhere guild traders and then jew them for regular prices back in civilization.
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>not playing the game on a CRT to make sure you get the highest response times
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achievement unlocked: explain wgt in other language using google translate
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Is it possible to make a cute orc waifu? These tusks and nose are ruining everything
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>>163830109
If the tusks and nose ruin things for you, are you sure you can even find orcs qt?
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>mfw alcast's non-cp trainee build
>modified it to a stam sorc
>mfw 1v2
>tfw you drop one of them but the other is 1h/s
>overload bar to drop a trap for extra burst and then ground and pound to finish him off
damn son, I didn't think wearing a set that make you use a training piece would be this god tier
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>>163817447
>>163816705
>>163815998

Any tips for a healer in such case?

I mean, Im Breton Templar girl and resto light ultimate dont last long enough to heal those, who stays in range (usually nobody does, but chase boss in melee) and when I start spamming Breath of Life, I run out of mana. Lingering Ritual have too long cast time.

What should I do? Thats like 6k damage each second.

I once tried to convince others to stay close to center and hit leavers when poison start, but the ebst I could get was to convince one person.
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>>163830032
wew if you actually did this im amazed and impressed that some one would actually have the patents to do some thing like that, good on you.
i hope you never have to do it again
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>>163831115
nothing really its one of the mechanics either stay by you or hit the switches to turn off the gas if they don't do that they will get fucked
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For hell sake, how I hate, HATE doing public dungeons alone, having to attack only with basic ones, no skill, since all those mini-boses simply take me down with single powerattack the moment when I start casting spells.

Even if there is another player, they simply rush to skyshard and ignore me dying here for 5-10 times.
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>>163832113
>public dungeons as magsorc with both pets
>easiest shit in the world
"group event" lol
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>>163831115
-Cast Grand Healing at your feet while you have major mending, slowly move forward while casting to gain distance on the boss
-Morph Templar healing ultimate to Practiced incantation and use that with Breath of life
-Disregard all DPS, heavy attack with restoration staff nonstop to regain mana and Breath of life with a full bar for the poison phase
>stays in range (usually nobody does, but chase boss in melee)
That's their fault
Tell them to stand on top of you, if that doesn't work you aren't powerful enough and should leave the group or if they are too stupid to stack they should be kicked
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>>163833204

Last time I tried convincing people to stack, they said they dont have ranged weapons and tank said I should use deutsch instead of english.
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>>163833204
Or:
-play sorc
-press pet heal button 1-2 times per second until they all stop being half life
-hope pet isn't dead
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How do you guys loot or what are your pick up rules?

Pick up literally everything and vendor everything except intricate and ornate?
Pick up everything and deconstruct everything and sell mats?
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>>163702797
Pros
>lots of content
>unlockable cosmetics that don't need any form of currecny
>customizable color scheme on armor (and costumes but only when you pay for ESO+)
>any build works on PvE
>can join up to five guilds at once
>skills are tied to guilds, equipment and your chosen class providing a variety of builds

Cons
>customer support
>server performance
>PvP
>the alliances don't make sense and now make s even less sense with anyone allowed to do their enemy factions' quests
>crown store prices are bullshit
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>>163834173
I sell everything but those two, sell blues down, and disenchant purples of stuff I don't see a use for.
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>>163834173
One of them traits you listed is literally sells to vendors for more. Personally I vendor everything, if I need tempers I'll buy them from players as it normally cheaper than what you get from selling to vendor at endgame, I decon glyphs tho because you get a chance at a repora rune that like 300g, but yeah I'd use the more crafting xp trait items to level crafting if I needed to.
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>>163797275
Honestly they should just chenge the bullshit that is damage is scaling off your stamina/magicka, doing just that would make a fuckton of builds viable instead of the same build for everything most of the time.
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>>163831115
>when I start spamming Breath of Life, I run out of mana

How much magicka and magicka recovery? Put Seducer/Worm Cult + Magnus/Kagrenac's full divines and Atronach stone. Don't believe the memealer you see on deltias going full crit and no magicka recovery. Those faggots play with their friends, not on pug, not with the dumbest people on the world. You have to be prepared for the worse, and the worse requires to spam Breath of Life, unfortunately. Cast down Extended Ritual, Rapid Regeneration twice, help your magdps with Elemental Drain, cast combat prayer and repentance time by time and keep heavy attacking any creature you see with your resto staff with Absorb Magicka. When you run out of magicka, use your ultimate Remembrance. Always save your ultimate points to use on poison attack.

Remember, doesn't matter if you do 20k dps single target being a healer, you'll be kicked when everyone dies without heals.
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can a dual wield magicka sorc work well with all the heavy armor users in pvp?
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>>163835820
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>>163808335
>>163808335
>>163808335
Resbond bls
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>>163810670
More like oblivion.
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>>163830109
>Tusks ruin everything
Back to /tesg/
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Any quests as a new player one should skip to avoid getting a low level version of an item?
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>>163773891
>>163708501
>>163703718

decided to skip 35k and listed two at different traders at 40k. both sold. this is getting ridiculous.
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should i get teso unlimited or teso gold, lads?
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>>163839039
'unlimited' is just the base game, 'gold' is all the worthwhile DLC. but the base game itself is enormous, so if money is tight, you're not missing anything essential.
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>>163835820
Recommend sticking with sheild stack and lighting destro, good mag sorc players like that I've found to be pretty good opponents.
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>Taking that quest in Glenumbra which involves time travel
>Change the past and the guy who was involved is now a girl in present

I did a good job, right?
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>>163839325
thanks senpai. will get unlimited.
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>>163839537
You can get the "gold" upgrade from the store at any point anyway.
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>>163831115
Barrier is a very good skill to have if you feel like you're running out of magicka.
If they're magicka users they could use wards to protect themselves, but I don't think I've ever seen anyone but myself using wards to make the healers job easier.
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>>163839494
Yep.

While at it, what actually happens when you have flash-backs or travel back in time. What's going back in the past. It isn't your soul since that one's stolen. And it isn't your body. So is the body and soul separate from your consciousness?

Same thing in Bangkorai where you move trough a forcefield that disintegrate souls.
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>tfw you luck out and get a perfect pug group with good dps
>and bang out 8 dungeon runs and finish the set
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Holy fuck, Rich Lambert posted this on the forum.
https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/310623/update-13-sneak-peak-notes

>Proc set can't crit, monster helmets along with sets such as viper nerfed
>AoE caps are removed, works like progressive tax now
>All poisons now share the same global cooldown
>Loadscreen in Cyrodiil potentially fixed
>Can buy "Zone Bags" for AP giving you a random overland zone item from a zone of your choice
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>>163840723
>click link
>it actually says that

holy shit
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>>163808231
Or just
>>163840723
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>>163840723
Nice, I guess!
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>>163840723
>sustain is slightly reduced, while burst potential is significantly reduced
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>>163833618
>Last time I tried convincing people to stack, they said they dont have ranged weapons
Aww poor babbies!
Leave them fucking dead then and solo the boss yourself, if they kick you then you will probably complete the dungeon in a whole new run before they do. Otherwise continue wiping until they leave thinking you were too bad to heal them.

There is nothing you can do when people are just plain retarded, I did a HM Tempest Island run a few hours ago and I basically soloed the boss (at the very least 95% damage) because both DPS had 10-13k health and didn't even know the mechanics - and that is one of the easier runs I've done on Tempest
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>>163840723
Rich "I'm gonna save this game from that madman Wrobels" Lambert
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>>163833618
>Last time I tried convincing people to stack, they said they dont have ranged weapons
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>>163841501
Rich "try to proc and crit my dick" Lambert
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>>163840723
Once again ZOS proves to be incompetent and nerfs PvE to oblivion while trying to balance PvP.
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Who's ready for another day of not getting the Hissmir recipe
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Do passives and CP abilities like Thaumaturge that increase the damage of DoT effects affect applied poisons too?
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>>163842037
Don't really see the issue. People already complain about PvE being too easy, now it's harder. It also gives non-proc sets a chance to be viable.
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>>163842037
Proc sets were cancer in both sides of the game. Good fucking riddance.
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>>163842037
I'd love it if the meta no longer revolved around those stupid monster sets. They look like shit anyway.
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I wonder if I'll finish my proc set before the nerf patch. This volenfel queue is taking an age.
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Can someone please explain those tel var stones and the key fragments you get in wgt etc? Suppose I wanted some leeching plate, is there somewhere I can go to turn in either the stones or fragments to get them?
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>>163845104
Tel var stones can be turned in at your Imperial City main base. At the start of each dungeon, there should be an icon showing you a door somewhere at the very beginning, in a corner of the map. Go there and turn in your fragments for a random purple dungeon drop.
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Valaste from Mages Guild is such a sad case. Why cant player hug her?
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How long would it take to level from 1 to 50 with the double xp event and a set of training gear?
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>>163845861
There is that khajit after molag bar area when you get to the first town or maybe second.

The quest where some drink elf comes up to you can asks for help because there are people placing stones and mind fucking everyone in town. Erezabor or something. Damn she was kawaii as fug. Her voice acting was different from other khajits and she was just constantly apologizing because she was being forced to help those people enslave everyones mind since they had her husband. I don't get why she asks you to help her find her husband and as you leave the dungeon you see a dead khajit with a name and the only other khajit but she never says anything about it as if the quest broke.

>tfw she had no choice but the entire town wants to banish her and you have to tell the head elf that she was coerced

she had a hard life ;_;

/hug when zenimax
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>>163846671
There's a dunmer girl who worked as a maid and then her master died. If you help her contact him he will laugh and let her and tell you she was only a plaything, If you tell her the truth she won't believe you but you can find he corpse after committing suicide at one of the beaches by some cliffs iirc.
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Which alliance is best for imperial from lore viewpoint?
>AD
out of question
>EP
if you want indepentend cyrondiil
>DC
if you want man ruled empire
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>>163839918
I run iceheart on my magNB because I don't have molag kena yet, actually quite a nice set for pugs. DPS is lower than grothdarr/skoria, but as long as I still see other dps using pirate skeleton idgaf
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>>163849620
>AD
>We hate RACIST ABLEIST NATIONALIST SCUM AND SUPERIOR ALTMER LETS RACEMIX WITH KHAJIT strong independent Queen based rule clad in Armor and hates royalty

Why the fuck can't we just choose Mannimarco, he has his own faction, Molag bal could be the only true antagonist. We could sow seeds of destruction and peril as superior Necromancing Altmers WHAT THE FUCK
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>>163842137
how about you finally do something productive with your life
like grinding skill points and cp
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>>163842037
>wanting to be stuck using monster sets
>not only that but wanting to be stuck using ONLY the monster sets that have a % chance to randomly proc free damage

Yeah, nah, fuck that. This is EXACTLY what PvE needed so everyone isn't wearing the same sets. Maybe we'll actually see some crafted sets in use, or the monster sets that no one cared about before.

>>163849620
DC or EP fits, I'd say DC probably best aligns with Imperial values:
>aside from Orcs, basically an alliance of Men
>Orcs were kinda super into the Legions anyways, so they kinda fit too
>aside from the Orcs worshipping Mauloch/Malacath, basically the entire faction reveres the Divines and so won't offend the sensibilities of some Colovian redneck
>some of the late quests involve taking our a traitor legion working for the Tharns and Molag Bal
>DC's alliance armor is kinda pseudo-roman looking
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Lorewise, who should give up his/her life at the end of main quest line?

Game basically dont give you reasons for anyone specific.
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>>163852114
Varen
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>>163852505

Why?
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>>163853227
Why shouldn't he? He's responsible for soulburst.
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>>163839787
You mean buying dlc's for crowns? I'm torn between paying 35€ for the dlc pack or buying a new gold copy for 30€ and lvling again....
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Since I dont have more than 6 traits on any armor piece yet, does it even make sense for me to craft champion 160 gear myself, once I reach proper level? Or I should instead craft just 150 champion ones?

I mean, how much of stats I would lose this way?
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>>163854550

Last free weekedn, Gold was going for 25 EUR and crowns were on sale too...
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>>163854746
Just get someone to make it for you. Probably need about 20k for a good set.
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>>163854951

20k for each piece or whole 7 pieces set?
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>>163855252
Whole thing.
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>>163855702
>>163855252
Forgot, that's for blue or purple. For gold it's going to be a lot more.
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>>163855758

I can get green or white and upgrade myself after all.
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>>163857534
If you've maxed out that passives that deal with upgrading resins, knock yourself out.
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>>163857925

I did, was that wrong thing to do?
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>>163858029
Not at all if you're going to be crafting.
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>>163842037
will this be good or bad for me as a stamplar who uses sets that increase penetration
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>>163860009
Unless they also buff Stamplars, bad
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>>163850464
>Why the fuck can't we just choose Mannimarco
Y-yea, there's no option like that in the game. No options at all to help out Mannimarco in the main story line, non at all.
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Idiotic question but: How does this game play on PS4? Should I get it there or wait till I get a better PC and then buy it for that?
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Yo, I just bought this game and wanted to roleplay as a cute underage girl, but when I finished downloading I discovered that I was unable to do so.
Soo, can I still get a refund?
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>>163860805
Make a min height Bosmer or Breton and turn the age slider all the way down.
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>>163840723
faggot PvPtards giving PvE players a huge nerf

PvP ruining a good game, yet again
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>>163860893
Thank you!
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>>163860276
>tfw chose to free him just to make a point that I could put him back in chains whenever I wanted to
Also because of OOC knowledge that he'll be dicking around for ages afterwards anyway. Might as well be the reason for it.
Necromancy skill sets fucking when.
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can't even log on EU, instant disconnect
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>>163853227
why should the others?
Varen is a broken man, whose failures caused this situation in the first place, and admits as such. Sai Sahan and Lyra Titanborn have a future ahead of them, a budding relationship, and something to live for.
Emperor Dumbledalf is the only choice.
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>>163860805
Oh god. I don't want to turn into one of THOSE generals.
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>>163860805
reconsider suicide while you're at it
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>>163863743
>>163863856
What's the problem?
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>temps on xbone going for 20-25 ea
>wax on xbone going for 12-15k ea
>rosin on xbone going for 10-14k ra
Why do I have to play on worst platform, you can transfer to pc right? Was thinking about it if I get a better computer as of now my toaster can run dark souls 2 p well if that means anything
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>Playing my level 50 breton stamblade that I last played before One Tamriel
>Finding it really hard to solo shit now, regular quest bosses sometimes kick my ass

I know it's a sub optimal class/race combo and stamblades are squishy to begin with, but fuck

I'm finding my nord dragoknight tank way more fun to play now because they never fucking die but I made that alt to play with a couple friends and don't want to play without them and get ahead in levels
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>>163864448
>get ahead in levels

Well, since One Tamriel I don't think that would be a limiting factor so go nuts with what you have the most fun, I guess.
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>>163851440
>Yeah, nah, fuck that. This is EXACTLY what PvE needed so everyone isn't wearing the same sets. Maybe we'll actually see some crafted sets in use, or the monster sets that no one cared about before.

Oh yeah that's so very good, now instead of seeing people with the same monster set and 5-pieces we'll see people with the same two 5-pieces, how wonderful.
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>>163851440
>visually interesting monster sets and proc effects getting fucked
>things will take longer to kill in PvE just because PvP faggots whined
>thinking everyone wont still be wearing the same craftable sets instead of monster sets
>"Yeah this is what this game needed"
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>mag sorc
>main skills and ultimate are actually destruction staff
>two skills are passives and/or toggles
cool class
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Magdk or mageblade? Which one has to watch less dots? I played a lock forever in WoW and a SMN in FF14 so I'd really like to not watch timers this time if possible.
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>Playing Breton
>Its time to gather all three alliances against the Big Bad!
>Quest first carries player to Mournhold for that Nord guy
>"A bold ya are, I will delay your execution >:[ But know that if you are assassin, I will DIE ALONG YOU AAAH SOVANGARDE WILL BE GLORIOUS what you mean? A moot? Only if other guys agree, yeah it might work, no begone, muh dinner is getting cold, now kindly fuck off >:["
>Travel to AD territory
>Queen is all like "No need for formalities my friend, I still remember those child times... and who is this great champion? If my childhood friend trust you, I do as well... our common enemy? Well taken point, my friend oh and I heard about your deeds, Im so impressed... A gathering? Bold idea, I like it. I promise I will come"

Now I feel bad for having Ebonheart character as well. To think that my Nord girl have such retarded leader...

And how Emeric appears in this quest from other alliances perspective?
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>>163868108
Don't forget thr Queen slept with Razum Dar the khajit fuck
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>>163868572

Maybe she is just into cats?
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>>163868108

And in the quest, with negotations, Emeric is suspicious and want a proof, Queen is willing to trust and want everyoen to cooperate, while Nord guy just start by insulting everyone around.

And when comes to convincing them to folow your own plan, I had to hit the ambitions of Nord retard, while Emeric just replied that he will follow, as long as other two will agree.

Turns out that Ebonheart Pact is basically worst faction to take over empire - run by complete lunatic and retard.
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>>163867860
Magblade, magdk is all about the dots
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>>163869369
Great, that makes it easy. I leveled both to 10 and liked both although it's hard to tell what they play like at endgame.
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>>163868695
What happened tp the Altmer supremacy in Skyrim???
So many fucking racists in Skyrim and ESO it just got deleted
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>>163845973
https://youtu.be/NtE64sBWHig
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Why won't it let me rez? I'm level 18 and have a bunch of filled minor soul gems.
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>>163840723
Those are decent changes though I think the crib should stay for PvE or just make the damage into DoTs like the previously wanted.
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>>163869131
The queen is just a leftist propaganda sjw character, play the AD storyline and see for yourself.

She is also highly incompetent, naive and makes me very angry to do quests for her because of her stupidity and hypocrisy.

EP has a bloodthirsty viking while the Dunmer houses pull the strings, that's better imo.
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>>163872837
I hope we can all agree though that Emeric is the best king, right
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Hey, I just downloaded the game and am making my character. I've read up on a lot of guides and have looked at the skills and morphs of them. I can't decide though, for pvp in general (whether it be 1v1 or 1vX) would a "stamina bow DK gank" build be better or would a mag sorc be better ? I like the skills for both and I'm surprised by the character customization, it seems pretty great.
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>decide i want to try out a magdk
>have to start off with a 0% speed horse

fuck it
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So like the game scales with your level. I'm at 8 and finally in the main area. Am I supposed to just keep doing quests for gear so I can do the coldharbor quests? Every other quest I do gives me junk that I can't use. When can I do instances?
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>Want to switch my stamblade to a magblade
>Realize I'd have to spend like 12k to respec attributes, skill points, and champion points, then grind up light armor and destro staff skill lines from scratch, and go hunting mages' guild lorebooks

Ehhhhhhh
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>>163872837
that's me in that cauldron
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>>163875628

>He was not wearing at least 1 piece of each armor type along leveling

Heh.
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>>163870693
Anon, TESO takes place before single player games.
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>>163872078
>minor soul gems

soul gems were unified into 'grand' in One Tamriel. the rest are just decorative vendor trash now.
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red diamond
RED DIAMOND
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>>163878669
THE HEART AND SOUL OF MEN
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>>163878864
RED DIAMOND! RED DIAMOND!
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>>163834804
I agree
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>>163879139
PROTECT US 'TILL THE END
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>>163880804
the laughing heart sprayed blood afar
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Bo-oss... I don't think he is listening.
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hello /tesg/

i've been trying to install Soolie's spears for a while but i've had no luck with the Skyproc patcher, it's broken beyond fix.

first it says boss failed to run, then it gives me missing masters, after deactivating the mods giving me those false reads, there's an ugly unreadable java error.

am i shit out of luck?
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>>163873376
Reply to me
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>>163882821
>am i shit out of luck?

Yes. Mainly because you're in the wrong general.
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>>163882821
You_have_to_go_back.jpg
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>>163877961
well fuck. okay thanks for the info
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Does any zone have snowy storms. Stonefalls has ash storms and alik'r has sand storms. Also, does every zone have night/day cycle?
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>>163860682
I've heard that PvP on consoles isn't the best.
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>>163882629
ATAVAR
WHERE ARE YOU
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>>163882821
you have to go back

>>163883037
here you go
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>>163883185
The night/day cycle is global so all have em. I think Skyrim have snow storms.
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>>163883185
the temperate and more tropical zones have thunder and rain storms and Eastmarch has snow storms so does the little starter island if i remember correctly.
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I hate DoTs. Which class in this game is the least DoT based? MDk looks super DoT heavy; is the stamina variant the same?
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>>163882831
here's your (you)
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>>163883359
Thank you, anon. You're a pretty cool guy.

Happen to have the /tesog/ and /tesg/ version?
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>>163883582
All DKs are dot heavy. I think Magplars are pretty dot heavy as well.
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Is there some better way to filter searches when using guild traders? I want to look for daedric and ayleid motifs but they're impossible to find under all the skinchanger and hollowjack ones
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>>163883665
its already posted
>>163784685
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>>163884318
Thanks, bb.
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>>163884318
Got the /tesg/ to /tesog/ one?
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>>163884681
Would love to see that one if it exists.
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Is there any reason to to not use both bars for the same weapon other than you would be training some other skill line at the same time? I want to use bows for both bars but someone said it's dumb but didn't explain why. Between undaunted, fighters, and my 3 class lines I have enough skills to make both bars varied enough to do different things with bows for each bar so wat da fug. What am I missing?
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>>163873842
Do whatever quests you want so you can get levels faster to do the main quest every 5 levels to get you closer to snow lily and sacrifice that fgt redguard.

Nothing else really matters desu.
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>>163882831
Whatever you theorycrafted in your other post JUST DO IT

If you don't like it or it feels weak you can respec so none of your decisions are permanent except for your class and race pick but anything done after that doesn't matter and can be swapped out if you have the patience to grind the levels and gold.
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>>163885163
If you want to do that, go for it, but different weapons are good for different situations

I have bows on one bar and dual wield on the other and I switch to dual wield when enemies are getting in close or it's time to burst down a boss
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>>163884770
/tesg/ isn't creative enough these days for that.
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>>163885163
It's DPS inefficient since Bows have pretty good DoTs but not really for single target and for optimal DPS you want to put down your bows DoTs while mainly using dual wield.

But if you don't care about min maxing then go for it.
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>>163621558
How do I deal damage in PvP? I am in the sub 50 land, my 34 NB hit a wall doing like 1000~ dmg per hit even weaving abilities in and going full stam. In the 30s I was usually able to win 1 v 1 but I could never get through a DK dmg shield ult and I still cant.

Rerolled a DK 50/50 stam/hp and I do even shittier while also being out of stam after a few abilities.
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>>163885163
You've already stated the reasons why (skills overlapping). If you can make it work then it's ok.
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>no gathering quests
>no kill xxx of said generic mob quests
>gathering is actually fun and you do it to get gear
>first person with a sword
>combat actual feels pretty nice
>take a quest, but get a story where you kill nothing, just listen to what people have to say
>decent to great voice acting

I should've started playing a lot earlier, this game is great!
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>>163888817
Yes, yes. Make a mag dps and try PvP and you'll see what is great...
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>>163888817
I love that they made crafting actually rewarding, one thing I hated about FFXIV was how crafting was ok-ish during leveling and completely pointless by endgame

The quest to become a master blacksmith and sell your services is fun
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>>163888817
>>no gathering quests
Crafting dailies for your gathering needs.
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whats the fastest way to get skill points on a new character
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>>163889330
Dungeons.
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>>163889330
Skyshards.
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>>163889330
Dungeon, skyshards, MG, FG, MQ.
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>>163889330
Do delves because each delve has a skyshard.
Get the xp boost from the event and power level for points.
Do the main story because each quest grants a skill point.
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So after you join the 5 amigos what is supposed to happen? I thought we were going to shit on molag bal in a 3v1 or something but I didn't get any further quest. Is the quest where you gather the 3 heads of the factions together the next quest? Wasn't sure if thats a main quest or just some side quest, I forget.
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>>163890979
You don't get to actually invade Coldharbour and fuck up Moldy Balls until you finish your faction's questline, so yeah, gather the leaders together
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Does double xp affect alliance skill tree?
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>>163891225
Yes
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>>163883978
The "awesome guildstore" addon
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>trying to enjoy ESO
>they ruined elves

...
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>>163896760
>Caring about elves
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What does /tesog/ think about my future Blazing Shield templar build?
>5x Plague Doctor
>5x Thunderbug
>Malubeth
Through glyphs, mundus stone, food, skills such as repentance and Altmer passives I would probably reach 2k magicka recovery, plus nice AoE complimenting shields.
This is for Azura.
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so how much points are keeps, outposts, resources and scrolls each worth?
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>>163896760
But that's great!
TESO didn't ruin your shitty looking skyrim elves
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>>163889120
>doing writs beyond provisioning
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>literally every khajit you talk to you lies and deceives you in some way
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I've been gone for nearly a year but my friends are interested in this game again so I might jump back in. Any big changes or DLC I should buy?
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>>163901852
Veteran ranks are gone and everything is scaled in the same way the content in Orsinium was.
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>>163901693
dro-dara is pretty honest
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Sent a message to @Geobasket and @the_kyrox the other day. Still haven't heard anything back from them.
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>>163903590
I can invite you, what's your @?
>>
why do bosmer look so dirty and smelly
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>>163901693
>In an alliance with the most underhanded race and cannibals
I don't blame them.
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>>163903590
Shit senpai, I might have missed/deleted your mail, send it again to me (geo) and I'll invite ya
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So Fyr and Therana are both in Vvardenfell DLC, how do you feel about that?
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>>163907376
is Vivec in?
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>>163907376
Excited to see Fyr again, and also curious how he looks since judging from the motif books he's yet to go full old man mode like he was in Morrowind.

I forget who Therana was. Isn't that the crazy (well, crazier than standard) Telvanni wizard?
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>>163907710
Vivec City is a confirmed location, so probably. Most things seem to be Telvanni-centric though. And there's datamined stuff referencing verminous fabricants. Hopefully this means Clockwork City is moving away from having dwemer-looking motherfuckers and proper dino cyborgs
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>>163907841
Yeah. Therana was the insane senile wizard who ruled Tel Branora. At this point and time she's young and not crazy yet. Gothren and Dratha (the man-hating Tel Mora Telvanni) are confirmed. Gothren's not archmagister, some other guy seems to be, and Dratha is.
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>>163907376
Also the next three seasons of crown crates, they're apparently
>Wild Hunt
>Skeleton
>Dwemer

Hope you like gambling so you can get a centurion mount!
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>decide to duel on my mdk
>first guy say "reflect isn't fair against casters"
>second "I'll wreck you on my stamplar"
>third "you're a really really bad mdk"
>fourth "I bet you get wrekt a lot"

I won all of these. Why do people get so upset? It takes the fun out of a friendly duel. I even bow afterwards to show respect but they still get mad.
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>>163908260
>skeleton
WAKE ME UP
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>>163907939
It'll be interesting to see her before she's ordering me to put robes on her slaves and then blasting them for wearing her robes (or however that quest went, it must be nearly a decade since I played Morrowind) then. I completely forgot about the misandrist telvanni lady. I wonder if we'll see the catalyst for her man-hate.
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>>163909629
Well another Telvanni kicked her out of Vos, and they're having a big ole war.
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>get into a mid-complete normal cradle of shadows
>tank is offline
>"kick the tank"
>nobody has started a vote so i do
>as im running to where they are a DPS leaves
>other DPS tells me to give him crown
>once again i start a vote to kick the offline tank and pass crown
>new DPS joins, old DPS leaves
>whole new group at this point

Pure fucking autism
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>>163908387
I like the third one the most. That must make them a really, really bad whatever they were.
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>>163910967
I wanted to say that but I just said "k" instead.

It's not worth arguing with people like that.
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>tfw spent my first couple hundred hours leveling up a stamplar and enjoyed it
>tfw just earlier today decided to try out my first alt, a magDK and already like it more
>tfw can already tell after looking at some builds and the class skills that ill be able to do a lot more DPS
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Deciding what to do at the end of Carzog's Demise was tough.

The cutie had a compelling argument about her brothers but ultimately I destroyed it since the artifact itself was evil. Maybe if it wasn't a soul sucking slavery machine I would have kept it.
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>>163913359
That is why I destroyed it, t b h.

>we can use it to defend the covenant!
>lady I think you missed the part where it's fed with fucking souls

It's no wonder there's a DC general who's a necromancer in one of the early EP zones. Bretons clearly aren't afraid of profaning the fucking dead if it works in their favor.
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>>163913359
>Maybe if it wasn't a soul sucking slavery machine I would have kept it.
This was my reasoning as well. I made a mistake where I thought I was helping a kid in Auridon and now he's stuck in a flesh golem.
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>>163873698
The trick with alts in ESO is to make all of them at the start, and be training them constantly, then you have a faster guy if you ever actually choose to play it. Or you can use zenishekels.
>>
>>163914807
The problem is I need a good name for my alts, it's something I obsess over. Once I have that I put them into horse training for the next 2 months before starting the levelling process.
>>
I need your help /tesog/. Me and 3 other faggots are looking for a new mmo to play and we cant decide between this or The Secret World.

Which one should we get for a story driven mmo with good playability for a group. Im more inclined to get TESO because of the upcoming player houses but everyone online keeps saying its not group friendly.
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>housing update
>Oh shit yes cool new content
>No wait it's just more cosmetics and it won't add anything to the gameplay and a giant effort towards nothing

I'm starting to really not want housing and would trade it in for some actual content. Like I'm pretty sure I'm going to be bored with it after the first 10 minutes of placing shit.

:(
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>>163915994
>Not group friendly

As far as I know as long as you fags decide right now what role you guys are going to play there is nothing that's going to hinder you. The more you play the easier it will be to save money and respec if you don't want to do that role anymore. They prob didn't realize one tamriel exists now. Before if you wanted to play together you had to pick one of the three factions together or you would be locked out from seeing each other but no longer.
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>>163901693
>DC empress BWB
>A filthy cheating cat
>>
>want to try a proc-gank build with widowmaker
>it drops in CoS
n-never mind
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s-she's so tall
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>>163917687
i bet her clit is the size of an embarrassingly small penis
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>>163883196
I mostly wanna do PvE stuff, but I'll keep that in mind, thank you.
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Lyris x player confirmed!
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>>163917353
>got ESO+ for the first time almost a month ago
Still haven't even tried any of the DLC dungeons on vet except WGT
>>
>>163914150
>>163914140
>>163913359

Wanna hear the best part?

Later in game you learn that artifact was tweaked by mages to work as some sort of magical nuke, blowing up invading fleet from AD and burning out in the process. In the end, if you decided to be a dick and not destroy it, it just use up whatever it had stored up to this point, save tons of lives (including qt family) and vanish to never bother anyone again, completely harmless
>>
>>163913359
Shit, that was so long ago I had to look it up.
I kept it because I'm a wizard and destroying ancient powerful relics is pretty fucking heretical to me, especially if they's soul-sucking slavery machines.
>>
>>163883286
>>163882629

Worst. Voice. Acting. Ever.
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>>163621558
Orc or Redguard for a Stamina Sorcerer?

I can't decide, I know both are good.

Help?
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>>163889018
I just did that, are they really that bad?

>>163889035
Seems to be pretty hard to level up, though. Destroying/making new weapons only gives like 2% of a level. ._.
But I guess that's part of the fun.

Btw, I just got a horse and a costume from my free crown crate.
Are they rare or am I unlucky?
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>>163921534
You want to be a Redguard.
>>
what's that add on that shows a small little window of your kills/deaths in pvp that i see a lot in streams and videos?
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>>163907376
Yagrum when?
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>>163922835
Kill counter
Also how to learn how to duel
Most duelers are max CP (I have 170) and have best gear while mine is still CP 120 crap so I have no chance, while beating newbies with equivalent CP and 0 PvP experience is too easy (I spent most time in PvP, that's why I'm low level, but I've played since spring... And I'm still bad ;_;)
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>>163921898
You can buy intricate items in guild stores for like 200 gold a piece

Those give like 10% of a levels exp tho I think it depends on item level?
>>
>>163918883
>muh nords in opening cinematic
>muh nords save you from ayy lmao dimension
when will this nord dicksucking end?
>>
>every time I see nirnhoned trait items they are selling for 3-4k for a lvl 1 item

So If I buy a nirnhoned item and research isn't this infinite money? Can I just craft bullshit and sell it for some undercut and get my money back + profit?
>>
>>163925146
You still need to get the nirncrux but yeah
>>
>having to decide between helping elves or snake tits
>optional non lethal run

why aren't more quests this gud
>>
>>163896760
How so?
>>
>>163925752
Easiest decision in this game.
>>
>>163921898
I didn't get a free crown crate. The fuck?
>>
>>163927558
he probably bought a single crate with the 500 crowns that come with the game.
>>
>>163716426
>evil empire
wat ?
>>
>>163926712
he has never played the game, that's how.

he's probably some skyrim retard that thinks all elves need titty mods and have to be his gf because he'll never have a gf irl
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Hi guys. I bought the game yesterday and just started playing now. I am really on board so far (literally 30 minutes in) with the combat and movement and general "feel" of the game.

Also, this made me laugh as how straight up ripped out of the Souls universe it seemed.

I went for a Templar High Elf. Gonna be a paladin maybe.
>>
>>163926712
THERE ARE SO MANY RACIST ALTMER SUPREMACIST SCUM
Not hard man.
>>
>>163929463
Simply epic retardation
>>
>>163929463
>having pride in one's race and culture is racism.

everytim. The only thing that changed was your world-view.
>>
>>163928014
>thinks all elves need titty mods and have to be his gf because he'll never have a gf irl
What's ur prpblem dude im not even attracted to women and this game has good models for female elves.
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>>163929273
That was pretty bad ass. I'm guessing a lot of dosh and effort went into this tutorial sequence.
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>>163929632
>>163929795
>>163929795
>>163929795
>>163929795
Hello? That's what the game says not me
I can't even stomach the AD questline
Now what do I do I don't want to serve nords or orcs and we killed tge winterborn with cool ice powers
WHAT DO I EVEN DO. I hate khajit too man
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>>163930421
The tutorial is only the start anon, there are many cool sequences ahead of you. Just wait until you get off your tutorial island and discover your first Dark Anchor/dolmen.

I think that was the first thing that made me go "Holy shit, this game is fucking cool." The visuals and sound effects for those are badass as hell, especially when it's destroyed.
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>>163931024
what outfit is that?
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>>163931106
The Adventurer's Outfit. I think it's a bit more expensive than standard (1K crowns vs 700) but it's worth it imo. Unlike most outfits it's unique instead of re-used armor assets and it's got a backpack with little tools and stuff so it really feels like it fits the theme of being the gear of someone who's going to be exploring crumbling ruins and needs climbing gear and lockpicks and shit.
>>
guys, what if
New weapons:
>Staff of Alteration
Focus on defensive abilities, damage shields, mage armors. Blocking with an alteration staff consumes magicka instead of stamina. Damage shields have their timers increased to 10 seconds if an alteration staff is equipped.
>Staff of Conjuration
Non-sorcerer pet skill line. Summon flame atronach - can be morphed into summon greater flame atronach with a focus on dps and inflicting breach and fracture, reducing enemy defences, or summon frost atronach, which has focuses more on defense and grants resolve and ward to nearby allies. Summon skeletal minion, which can be morphed into summoning two skeletons, or summoning a skeletal construct. Alternatively, morphed into summoning a ghost instead. Rest focuses on debuffs and maybe a command creature skill, forcing enemies to fight each other.

I just want a bit more magic variety.
Also for them to do something with frost staff. I don't really see a point in it existing right now.
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I do not understand how the guild store shit works. How do I buy or sell things?
Please explain it to me like I am retarded.
>>
>>163926790
I helped kill the snakes because I want to fuck that bosmer girl
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>>163931421
>not in the store anymore
why do they do this
I would have wanted that
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>>163915994
I'm playing with 2 friends right now, and I'm a dragonknight tank, one is a templar healer, and one is a sorc DPS

With just the three of us we can take down world bosses and dungeons and shit

As long as you have a tank and someone with at least a couple healing skills you'll be golden

Most of the regular story content is soloable so you'll be running through it incredibly easily but the real fun is the bosses and dungeons anyway
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>>163931750
To buy things you just talk to a guild merchant and use the filters to narrow down what you're looking for, then see if that merchant has it

To sell things you need to be a member of a trading guild, it's not an open auction house system

Each of those merchants is being rented out by one particular guild and its members are able to use that merchant to sell their stuff

If you don't have a trading guild, either bank your rare shit until you do, hawk it in zone chat, or just vendor it
>>
>>163931750
>>163932679

I see a lot of guilds advertising currently, so getting in isn't a problem, but read the pitch carefully. if they don't include where their trader is, odds are they don't have one.
>>
>>163933149
Yeah, and then getting into one with a prime spot in Daggerfall or Mournhold or something is another thing entirely, even if you do get one with a trader it might be in the ass end of Shadowfen in a corner nobody ever goes to or something
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>>163931693
Would be neat.
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>>163931693
Your ideas are good and I would love it.

As of right now, magic dps has one skill line and all three stages might as well be cosmetic differences or you'll just use one.

Alteration staff would also make magic tanking feel more special instead of sticking with just sword and shield. I also like conjugation staff as an idea too.
>>
is this game still alive? with update and free things?
mmm 15 bucks on steam so..
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>>163936198
<10 dollars on keysites
it's pretty much alive
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>>163936198
>mmm
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http://deltiasgaming.com/2016/08/07/eso-magplar-pvp-build/
is this guide still viable?
>>
I'll make a new general
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>>163937893
>>163938372
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>>163931916
I had thought it might have went but was hoping it didn't. Sorry anon.

>why do they do this
Artificial scarcity encourages a "BUY BUY BUY" mentality in customers because they don't know if something will vanish tomorrow and they can always "sell" it later by sticking it in crown crates.

The battlemage and soulshriven outfits in the current crates used to be outfit packs, you can bet your ass that the next run(s) of crates will feature other removed outfits.

tfw I'll end up feeding this cancer because I missed a bunch of outfits by being two years later to this MMO and really fucking want my mages guild robes.
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