/twg/ - Total War General

Day 214
Warhammer is still shit.

got the king and the warlord ill try it out after my vc run. what did it add actually? a new orc army? never played them. are those new units only in the new goblin army or are they also in orcs normal?

should i just go all out and buy the grim and the grave? so I get the other VC units.

>>163583330
I like gg but I love my karin and juri
having loads of fun cant wait to get drunk off of mulled wine on Christmas and play sfv.
warhammer is not really the type of game to play drunk.

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>just bought Atilla
>White Hun playthrough because I'll scumbag my way through for the first time
>four hours deep, ravaging the countryside
>six star assassin walks up to my group
>send two of my own after him, lives through both attempts
>bullshit.avi
>next turn, he assassinates a general
>send three more assassins after him, he lives through five total attempts
>alt-f4
Fuck this game. Total War is cursed for me. I'm gonna play this a year later and win easily. Like Napoleon, Empire, and Shogun.

>turn X
>the omens are bad! public order -2!
>turn X+1
>The brayherds are invading! public order -3!
>turn X+2
>The nobles are pissed off or some shit! -2 public order or -10 leadership!
fuck's sake...

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> Tomb Kings still not announced

>>163583878
added skarsnik as a greenskin, goblin only army and a dwarf faction, both of which have a unique objective.
Added some squigs (OP) for greenskins and rangers and bolt thrower (ok) for dwarfs.
Also added special regiments of renown (mercenaries) for both

both of those new factions are some of the best campaigns in the game but be warned that they're really tough at the beginning.

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Are we going to get a Chaos faction entirely devoted to Khorne?

I'd play the fuck out of it. Bloodthirsters, Bloodletters, Khornates and all.

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Not sure about this one lads, worried my army's about to get smashed.

>>163584082
So are there brand new goblins in that army? or is there a lot of different squigs and thats all thats new for them. well it will all be new to me because I'm only on my second game snice I bought It. played empire (need to replay this with the new content) and on my VC run.

If i get some funds from my family maybe ill buy the rest of the dlc, there really no other games I can see and I bought SFV and got that out of the way.
I guess ill have to see what the switch is like in march.
And no im not some kid im just a poor neet.

>>163584194
just gotta wait 1.5 years anon...

>>163584287
it adds new squig and a couple goblin units for all greenskin factions plus regiment of renown (mercenary) units for the same. king&warlord is considered maybe the best dlc because of the new campaigns so you made a good choice anon.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C--UFqAsaEQ

I've got it.

Warhammer is Shogun 1: Total War 2.
It's straight up Shogun 1 but a lot better. But with 3D maps

>>163584287
>bought sfv
guys seriously quit falling for this meme

>>163584415
>Nazi Samurai frat party

Neat

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>>163584461
this meme will not catch on because any good meme has a sliver of truth to it

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I'm about to go straight for Karak Eight Peaks in my Ironhammer playthrough. This can only end in complete failure or success.

>>163584636
TRUE KING
OF
EIGHT PEAKS

>>163584515
Its a fun fucking game, its not the thread to argue over it.

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>>163584415
Proof of skeletons.
You can see right through his leg.
>>163584631
I thought it was a fair comparison. The lack of historical formation fuckery. It's all about grinding the enemy up.

>>163584636
good luck my friend. I made it with only 1 turn before bankruptcy last time I tried...had to sell half of my remaining buildings to do it.

>>163584363
What these regiment of renown guys about, you need grim dlc to use them?

>>163584727
It's not a fair comparison because Shogun had 3 formations and 3 forms of engagement you could switch between at any time and at least a dozen different formations you could pick for your army that the AI would also use.

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>tfw the only thing that can bring you back to older TW games these days is TV shows, Movies, or Books about a specific time period that rekindle your interest.

Welp, time to play Atilla - Age of Charlemagne as the Danes, again.

>>163584717
>It's a fun fucking game
lol ok capcoon keep telling yourself that

>>163584783
also shogun 1 is probably the most authentic feeling TW game down to the campaign map that's made out of rice paper and god tier sound design

>>163584782
grim&grave gives RoR for empire and vampire counts
king&warlord gives RoR for greenskins and dwarfs

They're mercenary units that you can recruit instantly and they all have some special ability but are more expensive. Very useful for buffing up your army if you need to on short notice.

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>>163584784
How can one be so pleb?

Is there a limit to how long you can make unit names in the localization files?

My mod crashes the game on startup, and all it is is a copy of local_en.pack with a few lines changed.

>>163585134
I can't play anything older than Shogun 2 anymore, the UI/gameplay is just too atrocious.

>>163585332
Everything newer than S2 has atrocious campaign map and combat. WRE troops get caked in more shit as you upgrade them instead of looking like professional troops. Don't even get me started on the UI of Rome 2.

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>Gobbo archers

Can I confederate Vassals?
I might be able to vassalize Stirland.

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Climb on back, and we'll be off

serious question : any good warhammer porn out there, asking for a friend.

>>163585949
BY SIGMAR, NO!

>>163585949
>any good warhammer
No

EAL51-QI3Z8-EMDYQ

Can't recall if I gave this one out yet, so hope it works for the lucky neet that grabs it!

>>163585949
bound to be some slaanesh shit out there somewhere

>>163585949
>sexualizing Warhammer

You clearly don't understand what Warhammer, Fantasy or 40K, is about.

>>163585723
ogres should have ogre maneaters a trade resource to incentivize mercenary playstyle.

>>163586051

Oh its a 20% off for TWW, not a Grombrindal. Shoulda clarified that.

>>163586146
>not being sexually attracted to witch elves.

pathetic

>>163585949
something something dominated by best elf

>>163585723
the sea between should be much larger

also,
>no ogre kingdoms

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>>163585949
no

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Rejoice! For a Knight of Bretonnia provides your shield.

>>163586478
>French-styled knights riding on coated pegasi with lances

Why did real life have to be so fucking boring?

>>163584784
There is an Age of Vikings mod for Attila.

>>163586532
Because we got the world that had laws of physics.

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>I AM THE SUPREME PATRIARCH

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>>163586612
>we're living in the wrong physical universe

Nuclear meme magic to contaminate the world and bend the laws of space and time when?

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>>163586704
Do you like swords?

>>163586704
What did he mean by this?

>>163586719
We don't have enough men to cause that to happen. Even /tv/ can only cause a plane to crash every so often. We'll have to make due with our imaginations, video games, and dreams.

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>>163586834
/pol/'s meme magic just got a president elected. We need them to fix the first mistake of this world - the lack of fucking awesome magical things.

>>163586921
A president and a Republican majority in the House and Senate. Probably not enough to get us pegasi so that we can all be Bretonnian knights.

>>163586921
>/pol/'s meme magic

please stop, as much as I loved donald becoming president the whole meme magic thing is reddit cancer

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It's over, anakin

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I thought sieges were supposed to be better???

>>163587304
What's cancer?
An unnatural growth.
What are wings on a horse?
An unnatural growth.

>>163587767
Hardly CA's fault you use mods to cripple the defenders

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>>163587682
Well that was fucking misleading

>>163587851
If anything, the mod I used is to make sieges even harder. If I went for normal Warhammer sieges, I wouldn't have lost a single unit.

>>163588026
What bullshit, towers can destroy a unit without any trouble in un-modded Warhammer before they even reach the walls.

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>Historically, the cataphract was a very heavily armored horseman, with both the rider and steed draped from head to toe in scale armor, while typically wielding a kontos or lance as their weapon
DO THESE LOOK LIKE FUCKING CATAPHRACTS TO YOU CA
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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>>163587984
That map. Hmm...

>>163588356
And towers only work so long as a unit is nearby to activate them, meaning that in regular Warhammer, with it's tiny-ass garrisons, the only towers activate will be the ones near whatever gate the AI decides to park the majority of its tiny fucking garrison at, so you can avoid any trouble by sending your Lord in, your flyers, and moving your other units out of the way of the tower range. With increased garrisons, the AI is more likely to activate all of the towers. But the sieges are still too easy.

>>163588470
Cataphract that came from poor areas typically had worse armor than Persians. They're still heavy lances.

>>163584731

>Sponsor Belegar to mount his expedition from your hold.
>He auctions off all of your shit and leaves.

How the fuck do I into religion in Attila? I just can't get my religion over 60% because of dumb fucking German paganism spreading from nowhere in the middle of Spain, I should have just swapped to Latin Christianity

>>163589118
they shouldnt be called cataphracts, just lancers
i pay 600 upkeep each on both of these units, so you'd think they could afford the best armor

>>163589201
uncolonized land giving osmosis? germanic pagans settled on your border?
just build shrines and shit and it's hard not to get 70-80%

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>>163589384
A Cataphract is just a heavy lancer.
There's nothing special about them. If we really want to be historically correct when referring to force organization, we should probably just refer to them as heavy lancers.
If we want to go one step further, we could probably denote if they were levied, professional, or noble drafted.
Soldiers ain't special, mang.

>>163589559
A cataphract is a cavalry unit where both man and horse are fully covered in armor, like Italian War knights, no armor on their horses mean they're just heavy lancers and don't deserve their name.

>>163589753
Is a Knight a Cataphract?
Is a Gendarme a Cataphract?
No. They're just cultural names for the heaviest lance wielding cavalry. Usually raised from privileged families.

>>163589753
I thought a cataphract was when your eye gets all blurry and you lose vision

>>163589953
Cataphracts have the ability to damage your eyesight in more ways than one.

I can't believe it took humans so long to have the government provide weapons.
I mean, they wanted to win the fucking wars right?
The peasants aren't going to buy weapons. They're going to buy whores.

>>163590235
t. Socialist scum.

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>cannot expand in great speed because public order
>t-thanks Tw:Attila, I'll play white huns next times

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this sword better be worth it

also are chariots shit?

Warhorse breeder's stables worth it in Warhammer?

>>163590680
>only 20 kills with the cannons

do you even direct control?

>>163590726
they had to go on their cannons of course

they were making swiss cheese out of my chosen

>>163590808
just realised you had zero cav

lmao

>>163590379
Rome called.

>>163589874
it's not just a heavy lancer. scale armor on the horse and rider, and uses a lance

Daily reminder that Ancient Empires never

Total War: Dominions when?

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>>163591079
We are close

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>ancient empires release date announced 3 years ago

>>163590431
If you have spare governors and lots of priests, you can colonize up to 5 provinces at a go. For example, you can bumrush Palaestina, Syria, most of Arabia Magna, Osroene and Asoristan and still not have many public order problems. If anything, the limits on your expansion would be corruption making you bankrupt and the enemy faction harassing your borders.

>>163591198

Close is relative. Close to what? a week? a month? a decade?

>>163591046
The heaviest available armor in the period and the place. With a lance. It's just a heavy lancer.

>>163591503
specifically with armor on the horse, not just the rider

what do you call a cataphract with a lance?

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>>163592415
a cataphract

>>163592473
what do you call a cataphract without a lance?

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>mfw it's stabby time

>>163592564
anon
heavy and has a short weapon

>>163592338
Sometimes heavy cavalry armored their horses.
Sometimes they didn't.
Sometimes they just gave them a caprison.

HOW DO I KILL THESE EMPIRE SHITTERS WHEN THEY JUST RESETTLE EVERYTHING I RAZE

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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>>163584194
Third game will have all the 8th and storm of chaos stuff just no 9th ed end times
>>163585332
How Rome 1 is fine, but yeah Empire looks like shit
>>163585949
Define porn
>>163586478
I like this meme
>>163586704
Still got killed by a manlet

>>163588470
And Greek fire is used by barbarians before it's even discovered by TRVE ROMANS
>>163589953
No that's cataracts you dumb memer

>>163590235
Because it took awhile for wars to become fought between proper countries and not just tribes and city states.
Also you'd have set classes back then, a priest class, a soldier class and so on. Most kings didn't want to piss off these loyal suppourters.
Also if you give them arms they'll be angry when you take them back, so will hide it and then you might have a revolution, which no one wants

I want to spread my religion in Spain in Attila, to get Osmosis to the maximum places do I want to ubild a church in the middle region or just in any region whose province touches to most other provinces in Spain?

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>>163593764
End Times isn't 9th edition you clown, it's either 8.5 or just an expansion. We'll almost certainly see some End Times models in any case for chaos, Thanquol will most likely use the ET model and so will vemrinlords possibly Arkhan also.

>>163594242
how many jabber for that

>>163594441

all of them

>>163594441
two and a half

>>163594441
depends if we get the choice of braziers or warpfire throwers. Seems unlikely though.

>>163594242
CAnt citate ATM but they said no end times, as the game was designed before they went into developing end times.
Treekin are in game when you can't buy them anymore so there. Storm of chaos makes more sense anymore if they want chaos to invade and not nagash

>>163594441
They could try to retexture the treemen/trolls to get them, but it'll look horrendous.

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Best starting faction in Attila for someone who's new to the game, but not Total War?

>>163594810
Visigoths.

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>>163585949
Here

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lol...

>>163595025
What a bore., Nothing compared to the might of a Grail Knight or a Pegasus Knight.

>>163590719
It's a nice buff for your Reiksguard recruitment in Reikland. The cost decrease is nice too.

>>163594607
I doubt they'll use models older than a few years and they've already used the more recent designs like Demigryphs, KF and so on. I doubt GW particularly care if CA use those models or not and ET is already 2 years old. They haven't started the design on much of the game to come so there's no reason not to. ET officially falls within 8th edition too.

>>163594810
Sassanids for big faction

Visi or Ostrogoths for horde

Franks for small faction

>>163595025
I want to get charged by a demigryph knight

Check this shit out, Empire got aesthetic as fuck in my campaign. They refuse to absorb Wissenland for some reason though.

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>>163595276

>>163595345
>Bordeleaux domination

Clearly CA is trying to tell us to support Bordeleaux instead of the king of Bretonnia.

>>163595345
Neat

>>163594917
>>163595228
I guess I just don't really understand the migrator's horde mechanic, as my only experience with horde armies is from Warhammer.

I can settle cities, but then turn into a horde faction? Why would I want to do both?

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http://www.twcenter.net/forums/showthread.php?741561-Endless-War-campaign-gameplay-overhaul-(new-preview-24-12-2016)

Seems this guy has expanded the scoope of his mod by a lot. He using the new amber mechanic and so on. Changed the name of the mod too.
>>163595426
You turn into a normal faction when settling as a horde.

>>163595426
With any of the Gothic factions, you'll start as a Horde. This is alright since you could, after getting some early tech and early buildings, just focus entirely on military campaigns. Loot and sack villages and cities. Then, when you find a nice place to settle (I recommend Nova Carthago for Visigoths), you'll have plenty of money to fund your armies and infrastructure. If your current settled location turns to shit because of PO problems, Huns, or something else, then you can just pack up and move again and head for someplace safer, like Arabia or Britannia.

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What DLC is "essential"(highly recommended) for Total: Warhammer?

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>>163595521

God fucking dammit when is this going to release, I neeeed it.

>>163595662
>Arabia
Enjoy -27 from religious differences due to Semitic paganism

Also it seems that the fractured faiths malus only applies if you stick to Judaism, Semitic Paganism and Eastern Christianity. I converted to Greco-Roman paganism in a Tanukhids playthrough and I can expand like lightning.

>>163595743
Blood, rest is optional.

Chaos Warriors includes a few units that won't be in the game unless you buy it, so if you want a better Chaos Invasion I guess you'll want that.

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rolling

>>163595991

roll

>>163595991

roll me in

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>>163595931
I'm more meaning in terms of non-vanity. Don't some of the other DLC add mechanics and such?

>>163596163
Only the Race packs, but those are added to everyones games automatically, you're just paying to fight them.

The Lord packs are pretty essential actually depending on who you want to play as.

>>163596163
King and Warlord is nice.

Wood Elf and Beastmen is also nice, but the price might not be worth it.

>>163596163
King and Warlord is still the best dlc.

>gives dorfs a nightmare mode campaign, which happens to be the best one in the game, as well as stalking vanguard deployment rangers
>gives greenskins a campaign that's not a complete bore, with a bunch of gobbos for the meme-loving fucks

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>>163596407
>implying

>>163596223
>>163596227
Alrighty, thanks. I'll grab RoTWE, Kings and Warlord and probably the Blood thing, depending on how the blood looks.

>>163596569
>another mass of chaos that just kills everything: the faction
Worst elves were a mistake.

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>>163596601
It does do a lot for the look of battles, especially with monsters.
The amount of blood on units is a bit excessive though, so you might want a mod for that.

Talk me out of starting a VH /VH Belegar campaign, lads.

Please.

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>>163596690
I can guarantee you laughed at how shit they were at launch

>>163596873
why, it's a piece of piss?

>>163596942
It's a huge bitch even on lower difficulties.

>want to play empire because you love the period
>200 turn limit
>be a turtler
>no way to win the game

I hate total wars for this.

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>play Attila with FOTE and Europe perdita
>never have full grip on my provinces
>100x different religions in my cities and no chance to make my faith the dominant one without the support of a religious edict
>diseases everywhere and always
>no growth to get enough building slots to tackle all these problems

It is somewhat fun but in the end more of a hassle.

I sure do love spending a hundred fucking dollars on a game just for it to not even be able to fucking launch, with the sole "solution" online doing absolutely fuckall for me.

>>163596873
Battledifficulty is freaking stupid and should always remain on normal.

>>163597328
You got the specs?

>>163597328

Have you gone to the actual CA support forums and posted about it or are you just gonna stay here and cry?

>>163597370
Above them yes, I wouldn't have bought it if I couldn't run it.

>>163597402
Both obviously.

>>163597328
did you try turning your computer on and off again?

>>163597429
Seems you are very unlucky then. You got all the software you need?

>>163597328
works for me haha

>>163597258
That's the thing I hate about Attila, I love the idea of having to manage all those concepts in the game. But with how the building system works you only have a few limited build options that will work without problems and everything else turns into a mess.

And thats just with one province, god help you if you're trying to manage mutiple provinces at the same time.

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>tfw there are no little catapults on the campaign map in warhammer when sieging a settlement

How dreadfully lazy, no expanding settlements, no nice building cards, no nice unit artwork. On top of the gameplay being abysmal and the AI and campaigns getting worse and worse after each update. Not to mention the forgettable OST that so boring CA copyright strikes it off YouTube as not to be embarrassed by their laziness.

>>163597716
>no expanding settlements

to be honest im ok with this, but it would have been nice if cities had received some kind of visual upgrade as you went up the chain with them

instead hoveldorf with its wooden palisade walls looks the same forever and ever

>>163597328
Is it not launching or is it crashing during launch?

For me it wouldn't get past hitting the play button no the popup.

After getting window updated it turned into a crash, which was then fixable by deleting some folders in "the creative assembly" folder.

.I don't know if that will help at all but I hope you can get it sorted. it's a shitty situation to find yourself in.

>>163595991
lemme see

>>163597816
Honestly this? Like Warhammer feels like some kind of early access game or something. Like they weren't sure if it would work out or not so decided to not go all out just in case ti was a waste of time.

I just really hope they'll add the little things like this in with the future updates/the expansions. Or else these games will feel really lazy and half arsed.

>>163597716
>sieging a settlement
Most times in history sieges were just one guy squatting his army outside of the city until the city surrenders.

>>163597825
Won't get past hitting play. Just nothing happens.
Already tried the folder deletion thing, didn't do anything.

>>163597592

I fucking loathe the slotted building system in TW. It doesn't increase depth and eventually you figure out the universally best combinations that renders the whole concept of it moot. But it makes it much easier for CA as they don't have to make as many building chains anymore.

>>163584415
oy vey!

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Okay

Chaos Dwarfs when

>>163597959
>b-but muh dozens of animation skeletons and unique factions so many charlemagnes to have settlements have a slightly visual change

>>163598047
I think the only thing you can do is just keep trying, make sure you're system/drives are up to date and hope it decides to start working.

I don't know why but it seems to either be a rare issue or it's only cropped up since the Wood Elves came out. God only knows whats really going wrong.

>>163598421
Now I can agree with the whole "New models/animations cost money" stuff because that shit is hard to do.

But there is some pretty basic shit thats been in every game so far and for some reason is now missing. Like I can forgive them if they put it in latter but if they finish off three games without touching stuff like this? thats just piss poor.

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>>163597716
>>163597816
>>163597959
>>163598421
>>163598637

You guys are so fucking entitled, Stormwind looks amazing.

>>163598715
You absolute piece of shit.
FUCK.

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can anyone give me tips on a pure ranged army composition or is isn't viable whatsover?

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>>163598391
:^)

>>163598715
>You'll defend your palisade surrounded hovel in a settlement battle.
>You'll always have to do "One wall" sieges or field battles with

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>>163598379
Now, will the friendly AI stay here where he can definetly win, or attack Skarsnik where he might lose.
Skarsniks home is besieged anyway so like the goths he is at a choke point

>>163598847
What game, and what faction?

>>163598847
Not in this game bro.

>>163597716
>campaigns getting worse and worse after each update.
>no nice unit artwork.
?????
Wat

>>163598898
Never, EVER expect your allies to do anything smart.

Lads, how did CA fuck Chaos up so bad? Keep in mind, Chaos is probably the most recognizable Warhammer faction.

Can Chaos be unfucked?

>>163598987
>how did CA fuck Chaos up so bad
by being lazy

>Can Chaos be unfucked?
yes, by not being lazy

>>163598463
Got plenty more things to try and I'm sure one will work, it's just a pain in the ass is all.

>>163598987
CA have a lot of strange ideas regarding what each faction should be and the tabletop has never been balanced. So they take Empire, think it needs 'dependable' infantry then give it some of the best infantry in the game and same for heroes. In Tabletop Empire has some of the worst infantry. So Chaos is only unbalanced next to those imbalances in other factions. In what world could Wood Elves hope to beat Greenskins in tabletop? CA should stick to historicals it seems.

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ABSOLUTE MADMAN
They used the underway after being chased
>>163598987
Because people kept on shouting at them about cut content so they let it be, don't worry the grand grand campaign will unfuck the whole mess

>>163599109
Yeah it is a huge pain, but something has to work. To be honest I still don't know what the fuck was wrong with it on my end. Best of luck to you.

>>163598873
>cuck jokes

epic

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>>163599167
Five Charlemagne's says autoresolve does better than me

>>163599334
I fought the very first battle in my current empire campaign and then autoresolved everything. First because idk what Beastmen can do and I had nothing but swordmen in the army, later because I can't be arsed to fight Goblin fucking shits.

>>163598715
still more detailed than pre legion Stormwind.

>>163599167
>grand grand campaign

You mean the thing that won't happen because CA has no idea how to connect the maps?

they need more quest battles, I'd love to see quests for each npc faction that you can unlock when you get to certain diplomatic relationship levels that would give more relationship bonuses and bonuses depending on the faction, like increased trade revenue from them or something.

>>163598935
a universal tactic would be nice

>>163587984
Yeah they really need to implement a proper topographic map with a defined scale. I've seen simmilar looking maps that have -laced me on a huge hill, th whole yellow-to-brown thing doesn't work if there is no set scale. or at least a scale generated for each map generated.

>>163599494
>You mean the thing that won't happen because CA has no idea how to connect the maps?
Thought this was still happening just not for each expansion. Like if you have the base game and the expansion then you'll be able to expand the map.

Also they must be expanding the map some how. Other wise say goodbye to TK and Ogre Kingdoms case that map would be fucked.

>>163587984
How the fuck can people play Attila, these unit cards are worse than Rome 2s. Brown guys, brown guys leaning forward, brown guys on a brown horse, brown guys on a brown horse wearing a brown cap.

How the fuck do you even know what these units do, they all look the same.

Any mods which makes blazing knights earlier and easier to recruit?

>>163598961

The campaign is a bigger clusterfuck than it ever used to be. Wood Elves are more of a threat than Chaos. You could see half of Bretonnia and the Empire razed before they even show up. Orcs never survive in the Badlands against the Dwarfs.

On top of shitty balance between factions, lazy building chains, worse of vanilla lords, and bugs.

Do you even need Crossbowmen as the Empire when you can just recruit Gunners?

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>whenever you play Attila and you are the one who destroys the WRE faction

>>163599990
That's a good thing, anon. You're helping Western Europe be born.

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>>163599990

>>163599683
Prime shitpost dude!
>>163599702
Steam has instant campaign win so anything is possible

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>>163599990

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>>163598873

>>163599915
crossbowmen are better against non armored targets, and can fire in arcs so you can put them behind your line and get them to focus on the enemies ranged units without exposing them

>>163599494
>>163599641

They wont be connecting shit. Since the sequel is now a fully fledged standalone title as opposed to expansion it will be entirely self contained. There will be a New World campaign maps similar to the current Old World one and then an entirely new Grand Campaign map that everyone will have access too. They said as much in a Reddit thread about future content, I'm trying to find it but I fucking hate Reddits format.

Grand Campaign (is across all titles in the trilogy)
Regional Campaigns (game specific)
Race Campaigns

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>>163599334
yesterday war, today peace, tomorrow nuclear holocaust

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STEEL FAITH WOOD ELFS ARE FUCKING EVEN MORE OP WTF
Which fucking cunt said it was the best mod to get

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>>163600013
Move over Europeans, the true KANGS are coming to reclaim the throne

>>163599702
working on it.

>>163600182
>Since the sequel is now a fully fledged standalone title
Thought this was always the case? Could've sworn they said that before the release of the main game

Anyways though I wonder what they'll do for the third game then. Wonder how the map will look like.

>>163598873
tells a lot about yourself

>>163599990

>tfw you don't destroy the WRE
>but you destroy the ERE

>>163600451

They were calling it an expanadalone before, now they're calling it a sequel. If you want to be cynical you could say all that changes is the price from $45 to $60.

>>163600217

It is lore friendly.

Elven archers are OP
Deal with it

And when High Elves come out, even that "Chosen tests" anon will cry tears of rage for how good their elven melee can be.

Elven are the best in warhammer.
So fuck off

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>>163600203
Thankgod Skarsnik fought me during his turn otherwise I'd lose Helmgart again

>>163600571

Put a fucking wall in helmgart already faggot

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>>163600568
Its not the fucking archers you rude cunt

Its the fucking wild riders and there basic fucking spearmen that fight to the last man and never fucking route even with demi knights cycle charging them from behind

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>orion's stack actually dragged its ass all the way to estalia to find my beasts

a pleasant surprise even though he is obviously magically homing in on me

>>163599494
Nice assumptions m8

>>163600860

Then get archers

But guess what, wood elf spearmen are supposed to last a bit because they can dodge many attacks (and CA fucked this up by not implementing some kind of melee attack reduction aura for them)

>>163600959
>melee attack reduction aura
wood elf babies crying for more buffs not surprising

>>163600880
>playing mohgur
>30 turns in ive killed nordland, ostermark, talabecland and about just finish off hergig
>suddenly 4 wood elf doom stacks appear out of the fog from middenland
>all with enough movement to hit me after i razed hergig
>get utterly destroyed lose campaign

What the ever loving fuck?

>>163601060

git gud

>>163601105
Well they do hate beast men anon

>>163601060

The one faction that gets most shat at in MP is asking for more buffs
You don't say

>>163600182
Tell me exactly when they said their would be no interconnected map. Because from what I have seen thats just not the case and they will be connected. All the "They are now full games!" thing which was already confirmed and was basically just made more public knowledge is to say there will be a bit more content and a bit of a higher price.

>>163600959
>wood elf spearmen are supposed to last a bit because they can dodge many attacks

Just fuck off your mod is shit and unbalanced and you know it

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The second stack has even more spears. This looks kinda fucked, am I fucked?

>>163601310

Stay a shitter
My mod is flawless and you are just a fucking ant.

Wood elves are perfectly fine, if you face them like you face a gobbo army I hope you get shat at all the time

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>>163601234
>MP
>total war game

>>163601390
>not doing recon before attacking

>>163601397

Its easy
If someone can beat a wood elf army controlled by an actual human.

You can beat a wood elf army controlled by a dumb ai

So something is amiss here

>>163601274
>Tell me exactly when they said their would be no interconnected map.

Yeah I just misremembered what he wrote. There will be a connected Grand Grand Campaign and then a game specific campaign map.

>No, they will fit together, but will also have a full campaign of their own too, how and what exactly we will talk all about (and at great length) once we announce.

So yeah it will be connected together my bad.

>>163600568
>>163601060

Look at him and laugh. When I will meet you at multiplayer I'll wreck your shit with my CHAOS troops because that's how a hardcore gamers are playing motherfucking Warhammer.

>>163601390
You could try posting a few units at the towers and hope they'll whittle the enemy down enough for you.

Alternatively, sally and use your cav advantage?

>>163601394
So how about that all table top lords then?

>>163601274
>>163601607

>connected map

Hey ever wanted to see a 5 minute end of turn time? Watch this.

t. CA

How do you drag an entire formation of multiple units around?

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GET REKT NORSCAN SCUM

>>163601773
In empire end turn times account for factions in other areas so what's your point?

>>163601773

CA added beastmen and wood elf factions to the campaign map and the increase in the turn time was non existant, this was what, 5 factions at some random time?

If they add 15-25 factions, the increase would be 1 or 2 seconds

I don't know what they changed in the algorithm, but it worked very fucking well

>>163601607
Well yeah, how would they be standalones if they didn't have their own map? That was always the plan from what I remember, they can be played alone with just the DLC races or together with the first games map included.

>>163601773
Turn times will be longer yeah but I don't seem to recall ever having a turn take longer than 30 seconds, if that, unless I had to actually do something. Lets say the 2nd game doubles the turn times, thats still pretty reasonable. And I have a feeling it won't.

>>163600073
Having them only at one settlement and at a level 6 building is shite
>>163600382
Thanks bruv
They should be in a level 3 building like the reiksguard

I PUSH MY FINGERS INTO MYYY

>>163601913
>I don't know what they changed in the algorithm, but it worked very fucking well

The AI is dumber, no seriously, they have fewer decisions present to them. Hence why turns will fly by most of the AI sit around, max out stacks, idle in their settlement until you come and kill them.

The Total War has really just become a paint by number power fantasy game.

>>163601990
>>163601913

Hell, now that I think about it thats right, I doubt the turn time will get longer than 45 seconds at most.

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>>163600281
>KANG of KANGZ

>>163602038

You speak as if the AI had a plethora more decisions to make in Attila since it wasn't affected by food or unhappiness and it gave no fucks about pestilence

Why CA gives us unhappiness causing units if the AI gets a shit ton of happiness buffs to never have rebellions?

Its so fucking pointless

>>163602191
>it wasn't affected by food
but it was, in fact when the ice age sets in completely you will often see the AI armies suffering attrition from hunger
>unhappiness
true, it gets so many buffs to happiness on legendary, that its pretty much impossible for them to rebel EXCEPT for the WRE all the sacking barbars do often results in rebellions
>pestilence
false, the AI does get diseases

>>163602328

It gets attrition from hunger and pestilence but it does nothing about it.
This is what I meant

>>163602414
oh yeah, the campaign AI is hopelessly retarded in tw games, its a shame too, because while the battle AI has improved at least a little bit, the campaign one is not even trying

>>163600752
I am getting there just waiting for the town to grow so I can upgrade the townwatch to lv 2

>>163602519

I want them to focus on the campaign AI for the next total war games.

Its getting seriously too dumb

The battle AI is actually decent right now, they flank, they don't suicide generals they can use a chariot better than any player and all that.

But the campaign AI is just too retarded, just look at the vanilla armies composition for starters

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>>163601674
>sally out
>AI doesn't wait for his reinforcements and gets absolutely BTFO
Well that was easy. Turns out spears don't do shit against cav by themselves.

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>>163600571
Ah the eternal Marien, setting up wars with all but itself

>>163603008
Nicely done m8. And yeah, T1 spear levy tends to die in droves.

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>people actually hate MP players because they don't abuse stupid AI

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>No female leaders in Total: Warhammer.

>>163603183
feminism doesn't exist in the warhammer universe. True heaven.

>>163603219
I don't care about feminism. But the game's mixed "timeline" is in a period where there were female leaders. They'll probably appear in DLC or something.

>>163596873
You have a very good chance that Skarsnik will be curb stomped by Durthu, thus making the initial challenge non-existent.

>>163603143
>abusing stupid AI
damn, people are actually that bad?

>>163603183
Fay enchantress

>>163603316
>female dlc like daughters of mars
>pure /twg/ butthurt commence
Like ancient greek pottery

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>>163603059
I['m running around like a headless chicken but surely killing the raiders in my allies lands will help them confederate

>>163603143
That's like wargame where most players discussing about balance don't even have 100 games played and only play one nation/faction

>>163603143

No we hate MP players because the balance of the SP gets fucked with because of MP complaining.

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>>163603434
And we finally catch up with these raideres

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>>163603183

>>163603723
but of course they run away faster than I can catch them

>>163603723

Forced march allows them to just fuck off

And if you try to force march after them they will just engage you and fuck you over.

Forced march was a mistake

>>163603875

Forced march needs to be gutted for two reasons.

One, it allows benny hilling.
Two, it speeds up the game way too much, campaigns shouldn't be over by turn 100 (or turn 80 for the tryhard faggots)

>>163603546
It was SPfags that caused the WE buff though.

>>163603987

The way it should be
TW main point is the SP not the MP, the MP should never be warranted opinions about balance

>>163604017
But it wasn't a good patch. The WE campaign changes were retarded. That tiny debuff you get from not having amber now,

>>163604017
stop crying you fucking casual

>>163603783
When is this?

>>163604105

versus the retarded debuff that not having amber was?
>oh no some pee pee poo poo razed an outpost 5000km away, now I will have to demolish a fucking building in order to replenish again

>>163604308
Not nearly soon enough.

>>163604283

I could win against your meme compositions any day MP baby

>>163604408
It actually made amber management matter. You shouldn't rely on some temporary outpost far away you double donut.

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What are essential mods for T:W?

>>163604475
doubt it

>>163604308
February.

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>>163603787
Beastmen razed a Wissenland province.
The non garrisoned general is just a general so no worry
Can I even conquer these provinces or just sack them?

>>163604995
You can take any human province(except for norsca)

>>163604604
fuck you my man

>>163604831
2016?

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>>163604995
then he just fucks off when he could have got me in a quagmire kk

Will 2017 be /ourguy/? M3 and such

>>163605409
M3 + Warhammer expansion would make both fantasy and history fags happy, so it probably won't happen.

>>163605409
>M3
"No."

Confirmed for being a new, unexplored setting, it will probably be some trash setting like >Victorian or >China, it hurts ;_;

>>163589753

Its almost like the original names of units kept being used as the units themselves evolved into different things

Weird, never happens in history

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>>163605804
>Not Total War: Prehistory to get more use out of that monster system.

>>163605936
I know man Queen's hussars showed those fucking paki scum how a true man fights in combat

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>>163605248
comboing Grey Wizards debuffs and shock cav sure is fun
of course when it zooms out I see the red duke

>>163605936
>King's Royal Hussars
>don't serve a king
>aren't part of a royal organization
>aren't hussars

Consider my pineal gland well and truly calcified from back to front and back again.

>>163606131
>warpstone hails from the skies
>check nearby provinces
>beastmen totem in adjacent province
>march army their hoping theres something I can do
>'do nothing'
Well I guess warrior priests can't come soon enough, how good are they in single player once specced for war?

So when will we bomb the Sega HQ?

>>163605804
>China

We already know it's not China. CA had/has sent research teams out to various countries, one of which was Turkey. We also knows it's not China because the Chinese government are autistic as fuck and get super pissy at representations of their history and military. And CA/SEGA would most definitely want to be able to sell games there.

Victorian Era would really be one of the last few places for them to take the franchise and that would also fit the bill as being a massive time period of social, political and military upheaval.

1837 - 1901

With the inevitable Total War: World War 1 coming out later as an expandalone.

>>163606675
Warrior Priests and Arch Lectors are pretty great agents and solid in battle with some really strong abilities but they're sadly let down in actual combat by their stats. Arch Lectors have a melee attack of 30 which is inferior to that of vanilla rank zero state troop swordsmen.

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Having fun with my first Saxon campaign, two worries though:

why are my mens morale shit, and how do I break up this little proto-viking NATO so I can take Gothiscandza?

CA has confirmed they hired some historian or whatever that specializes in the timeperiod for the new historical game. If you're autistic enough just lurk until you find out who it is. Once you do, you'll know the timeperiod.

Is Gandalf the best type of wizard for Empire?

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>tfw you chase down the final enemy soldier with over 1,000 troops

>>163606909
>why are my mens morale sh
Do you have enough food and a positive income, are you marching or in regular stance when in battle.
>how do I break up this little proto-viking NATO so I can take Gothiscandza?
Make alliance with franks and angels, then once you have most of britain launch an invasion from there into scandinavia
>>163607108
No, Gelt is because he can finance a whole army
>>163607160
It's better when the enemy thinks they're winning then you charge in the reiksguard and they break a few secs later

>>163607236
The whole battle was a farce anyway. I had all of my guys on the top of a steep hill, raining arrows down on them. They were just the remnants of a previous army, barely 200 strong including the general. I baited them to start running right at me with my general, which brought them in range of the archers. After that, they basically just suicide rushed into my whole force, and I got a fun view of the last samurai running for his life only to be cut down by one of the general's horsemen. Sadly, shadowplay wasn't working so I didn't get a neat webm for you guys.

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>>163606909
Are you using Nordic band or Nordic brigades? They are literally the worst infantry units in the whole game.

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>>163607974
>>163607236
I'll check that out
also
>right as Im about to attack their defensive allies

wonderful

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>>163606131
It sure is a Christmas miracle. My wars with the beastmen made Todbringer love me and now I have confederated him, although 2 of his flagellants became swordsmen for some reason I still got some uniques for free WOOPEEE

>>163608421
>8 units of Free Company
Todbringer really hates melee huh?

>>163608587
Load up a campaign, wait 10 turns and see which armies aren't 50% cannons and 50% flaggelants or free infantry

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Probably a shit army comp but let's have some fun

>>163609221

It's actually really good against what you're facing

>>163608421
Free company are fantastic early game units. Too bad they peter out in usefulness when armies start becoming more armored.

>>163609221
Free company can fire over your spearmens' heads and take down those Minotaurs right quick.

>>163605207
2014

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>>163609221
And it was hella fun.
Todbringer took on a beastlord and half damaged cygor by himself and won
Also seeing 8 flaggelants scarring off 3 lots of archers was awesome considering the gimp masks they have on

>>163609221
It's a good comp mang.

grombrindal code if anyone wants it

Q62MD-MX0D0-CNXOR

GOAT!

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>>163610767
uhhhh

FONDOLING!

ARSEMONKEYS!

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>He doesnt corner camp

>>163611050
Looks like he rused you.

>>163611443
tbqh it's a better tactique than hammer and anus

Curse of Undeath is fucking SHIT.

I see no health gains on any of my other units when I cast spells. How much does it heal? Five points? The little up arrow in the bar that indicates a unit is healing doesn't even appear.