/bbg/ - Bloodborne General

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>>163565214
First for Kosm

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PURGE FILTH

>>163565214
That doll is cute as fuck and her costume is really fine, nothing cringe about her.
I don't get why Micolash has a blackface though.

>>163565494
I think it was an attempt to make his skin look more pale

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Somebody give me Amygdala farming tips please

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Majestic

https://vid.me/cA7E

>>163565632
Gives me a hearty kek every time I see it

Is there a way to speed up the Auger? I'm great at getting parties with it, but every time I do the animation doesn't give me enough time to visceral.

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You like FromSoftware games?
Their early work was a little too clunky for my taste, but when Demon's Souls came out in '09, I think they really came into their own, commercially and artistically.
The whole game has a well crafted, ingenious level design, and a new dynamic combat system that really gives the encounters a big boost. It's been compared to Dark Souls, but I think Demon's has a far more grim and refined atmosphere.
In '15 From released this; Bloodborne, their most accomplished game. I think their undisputed masterpiece is "Ludwig the Accursed", a boss so engaging, most people don't listen to the dialogue. But they should! Because it's not just an extremely relevant and historic character in the lore, it's also a paradigm of the theme of duality between righteous saint and bloodthirsty beast in men! Hey Paul!

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>>163565618

>>163565809
Would you believe me if I told you I also accomplished this.

https://vid.me/AX7J

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Who /cutehunter/ here?

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fXSEVRwYTs

>>163566335
I didn't know this game let you play as a slime scholar!

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>>163566335

>Thrust ATK UP +31.5%
>ATK DOWN -7.9%
Why does this fucking curse even exist

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>>163566335
Not me

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>>163566335
The cutest hunter incoming.

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>>163566335
Might as well post once. Up close and less up close.

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>>163567317
wtf

>>163567317
Them's big fishlips

>>163565214
The OP image forever haunts me.

Hunter-kun is a moderate fan of the game, really into the style and cool gameplay, has lore-fagged here and there in a few places, has never Korea farmed and participates in BL150 FCs, but his heart is in the right place and genuinely loves the game.

Doll-chan is Hunter-kun's girlfriend, into the cosplay scene and wants to be supportive of his hobbies and interests. She didn't want to wear a face-covering crow mask, so she chose the Doll, whom she thinks is cute. Maybe or may not have fugged in the costume. Made 75% of Hunter-kun's costume while he made the Saw Cleaver.

Blackface Micolash is a kosmposting lorefag who spends his greasy Asian nights jacking it to Lumenwood porn and posting overanalytical lore theories. Quotes Micolash fucking constantly in real life. Has two fully Korea-gemmed BLT and arc characters. Uses Ludwig's. Average /bbg/ poster. Hunter-kun's best friend, got him into the game.

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>>163566527

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>>163566335
mayhaps

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>>163567618
>Lumenwood porn

>>163567618
You know these people?

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Alright, round two time!

Anyone able to help with the DLC? I have the first shortcut open but I'm scared of what comes after.

>>163568712
No, it is merely the story conveyed to me by its presence

Is there any way to make gatling gun or the church cannon good in PvE content? I love the idea of co oping with people and just gunning down bosses.

>>163567618
Hoontah-kun is a edgy no life fag
Doll-chan is a disgusting blue-eyed mutant fag
Blackface Micolash is a fat disgusting memeing fag
All of them will kill themselves in the next few years for doing something as cringy and pathetic as cosplaying

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>>163565971

>>163569149

Gatling gun is always a good weapon for both PvP and PvE, but it isn't anything special. If you and your friend are dealing with an invader, one person laying down gatling fire makes it impossible to fight back.

Never really used the church cannon but it sounds like it's good for sniping.

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>>163569161
You are the most pathetic person in this general for actually thinking that.

>>163568964
ring that bell man on my way.

>>163569284
t. cosplayer
How does it feel to never grow up? Pathetic

>>163569353
>doing things you like is cringey and pathetic
>having a hobby is for children

I have never cosplayed in my life nor do I plan on doing so but you sound like a miserable person. It must hard living with no fulfillment or joy.

>>163569479
>I have never cosplayed in my life nor do I plan on doing so
lmao I dont believe that for a second. I bet you still trick or treat too.

>>163569615
Your life is one long shitpost, isn't it?

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Oh okay

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YEAH OKAY THIS IS FINE

>>163570728
>>163570870
This is your first time playing BB, isn't it?

>>163566715
Looks like Daniel Radcliffe got a sex change

Ringing at OoK's fog, password is kosm

>>163570947

Unfortunately. I played a long time ago but not for more than a few hours.

Is there a timing to his leaping attack? I was spamming dodge but he still splattered me.

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>>163566335
Not me, most folk say my character looks like a tranny, sliders are not kind in this game.

Ay man, you gotta run in a straight line when he jumps up to the celing.

>>163571137
Yer a hoontah 'Arry

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>>163571137
>>163571348

>>163566379
Part of the problem with invasions in BB is the PS+ jewing. No one is going to pay for PS+ just to be invaded. So you lost an absolute fuckton of potential people to invade with that

>>163571521
I literally bought PS+ to be invaded in BB and DS3.

>>163571521
The game also has a offline mode in the menu

Anything I should be doing in his second form? It looks really hard to get close to him without getting comboed to death.

>>163571759
Stick to his butt
Visceral his tummy

>>163571759
I guess just side step his sword attacks.

>>163571615
You're a rare one.

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5 (five) gems in a row with massive health depletes modifiers
Fuck me

>>163571273
Which one?
If it's the one where he comes down quickly, just count and dodge on 1. But, if it's the one where he stays up there for a couple of seconds, and blood begins to drip down, sprint in a straight line and he'll miss you.

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Anyoen care to join Boomhauer and friend for Ludwig? This boss is driving me up a wall

>>163571273
he has two leaping attacks:
>his first one is very fast: he abruptly leaps up into the air. For this one you want to count one mississippi and dodge. The hitbox is quite forgiving because there isn't really a lingering hitbox
>his second leap is more telegraphed: you can see him tense up for a moment before leaping into the air. To avoid this attack, simply pick a direction and sprint, and he should miss you
>>163571759
stick close to his abdomen, and dodge sideways for all of his attacks. Only punish with one attack at a time, unless you stagger him or you have a very fast weapon.
there is one attack that you cannot do this for though, and that is his double diagonal slashes. this attack is telegraphed very briefly by him holding up his sword up over his left shoulder (your right shoulder) with the tip pointing towards the ceiling. the double slashes are always followed up by another upward slash from his right (your left), and then, if you are in front of him, a final overhead slam.
once he gets low health (~25%) if you see him raise straight up his sword with both hands, back off to a safe distance immediately. Shortly after he will apply a knockdown around him, you then want to sprint behind him while he is charging his dangerous attack, and deal as much damage as possible.

>>163572080
They say the desire sensor isn't real
I'd like them to explain how, in an hour, I have 7 more arcane triangles than I have physical tempering gems

>>163572283
Sure, pass and fog or lamp?

>>163572376
I made a mistake with the order of the double diagonal slashes, it should be :
>two crisscross diagonal slashes, then
>overhead slam
>then upward slash from his right

>>163572283
Do you not get healed when I used the choir bell? I don't see anything when I use it.

>>163572416

The lamp right before him, password man.

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Why does Orphan have the same cry as Gehrman, lazy devs or actual connection between the two?

>>163572598
Have you ever spoken to the Doll after slaying the Orphan? It's intentional.

>>163564391
The factions I mentioned all have a patron GOO, those four are just busy dying.

>>163572403
>desire sensor
???

>>163572486

I had no idea what it was, but I was out of the radius every time you used it, sorry man.

My HP is also pretty low, I can barely take a hit. I'll try to stay back more often this time.

Ugh, hate it when the charge shifts to a different direction instantly.

Good news is I got the echoes I left on the floor and shoved them all into Vit.

Round 38 is a go!

>>163572828
http://definithing.com/desire-sensor/

Switching to my main character trivialized the first phase cause of my pizza cutter lol.

Ah man, unlucky. He switched targets while I was dodging away and I rolled into whoever he went after lol.

The first round went a lot smoother though, progress!

Alright after a while of farming Amygdala I've gotten a Atk up 20%, add phys atk +12.7, increase stam cost 3.2%

The optimal would apparently be Atk up 21.5%, add arc atk +15, plus some minimal negative modifier.
Should I just stick with the one I just got?

Anyone want to hang out with Mensis with me? I don't enjoy the boss fight much solo

pw: kosm

>>163574137

The next area up ahead really doesn't give you a break, does it? Should I keep my eye out for anything?

>>163574148
If farming Amy gives you trouble, stick with it.

>>163574513
Those 2 Church Hunters can be tough together. Research Hall patients are rough too, it's better to attack after their attack ends and lure them one by one. Kill blob heads, don't kill Adeline.

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Is this worth upgrading? It looks like I have the perfect build for it, would parries also be possible?

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>>163566335
Hopefully me

>>163575260
It's awful

>>163575260
It's terrible even for Strength builds and can't parry, only stagger.

i cant stop playing this fucking game its ruining my christmas pls help

This is probably a dumb question
Would a durability down -60 on my gun effect my primary weapon too?

15/40 vit/arc
or
20/35 vit/arc
?

I don't care about acb but I still can't decide

>>163576042
At least 40 Vit, 50+ Arc. If you're Twinking, 25/30

>>163575981
No

>>163576250
why 30 arc specifically?

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>finally find a moment of peace from everyone and their mother trying to kill me
>pull a lever
>"Yesss, shortcut"
>YOU PLAGUE RIDDEN RAT

T-Thanks.

>>163576749
If you're trying to stay at 43 (Twink level) 30 Arc is a decent spot if you don't care about ACB. It's the base for Brew too.

level 68 ringing at the Orphan's fog, password is kosm.

I'm not really looking for a "good fight" since I just want the parasite, so so I'm perfectly fine with the Orphan being dead within the minute if anybody wanted to do a fight like that

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What are these dangling things on the chest supposed to be or do?

>>163577430
Wind chimes, for the Hunter who needs a little more ambience to his presence.

>>163577430
They look like bullet cartridges or something

>>163577368
omw

>>163578165
Damn, we were close.

Ringing again.

>>163578484
yeah
if you want to play it safe you can back off in his second phase

If I level up to 130-135 will i still get a decent amount of pvp/ co-op? Also; is there any reason to level END any higher than 15? With the stamina rune equipped ive had no trouble with my end this low and i just killed Maria, im assuming im near the end of TOH

>>163578946
>If I level up to 130-135 will i still get a decent amount of pvp/ co-op?
Yeah, especially at Ludwig and Orphan. SRRC is active too.
>Also; is there any reason to level END any higher than 15? With the stamina rune equipped ive had no trouble with my end this low and i just killed Maria, im assuming im near the end of TOH
Not really, though some people like to go to 20. Stamina consumption is very low in this game, so staying at base is actually pretty good. Anywhere between base and 20 is helpful, but generally, the lower you go, the more points you have to spend elsewhere.

>>163578484
we should pull him into the water

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>tfw 3 hours until game finishes downloading

I've waited two years and now it's finally M I N E

The wait is killing me even more though. Just watching that progress bar tick, can't even pop in uncharted 4 that the ps4 came with because that would need to install shit too.

>>163579120
Rad

Thanks for the yous

Running arc/str with HMS, with fire saw cleaver as my other weapon. What are some other good arcane weapons? Thinking of getting arc up to 60-70 for the tools

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>mfw just now using the church pick for the first time
holy fuck all this lost time with the weaponfu I never knew

>>163578165
>>163578562
thanks, man.

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Why does "health gradually depletes" even exist?
It straight up ruins any gem no matter what level it is.

>>163579808
Chikage fags disagree

>>163579790
np that was fun

>>163579570
>What are some other good arcane weapons?
Just about anything can make a good arcane weapon if you slot in the appropriate number of cold abyssals, and either some arcane, fire, or bolt gems. Only pure physical damage weapons can be converted, so just choose what you want.
Fire Whirligig is nice, but you already have a fire serrated weapon. Str/Arc builds tend to run Logarius' Wheel, if you're interested. And there's the Kos Parasite.
I wouldn't stop at just 60 if you plan to go over 50 in arcane. It isn't worth it. 70 maybe, but past 80 is where you'll see the greatest increases to many of your hunter tools.

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>>163579472
You better have gotten the DLC, dood

Im at the end of it and it has been probably the best gaming experience i have had in at least a decade, not even memeing


I still havent fought orphan or lawrence either. Havent had too much trouble yet. Ive not hit a brickwall. Killed ludwig on my 4th try. Maria was rough. Took me 10 tries for her but she wasnt THAT bad

>>163579869
It's totally different. With the chikage you are only being drained when transformed, and unless you walk around transformed like a retard you will lose almost no health due to rallying.

>>163579472
run 50vit/15end/50str/25skl
get out of bbg and dont come back until you've beaten the game if you want maximum spoiler-free enjoyment

>>163579913
>maria 10 tries
>ludwig 4
that's bizarre, it was the complete opposite to me. Ludwig took a bunch of tries but Maria took 2.

>>163579808
At least you can counteract it sometimes with a pulsing gem.
But, fucking "ATK Down" gems single-handedly destroy any gem it's placed on. Nothing is more heartbreaking than seeing an otherwise good gem get completely screwed over by that curse. I understand that curses are part of the deal, an exchange for the higher percentages, but ATK Down is not a curse. It's a complete fucking murder, and immediately makes the gem inferior to everything else.

>>163579941
So here's what you do: put HP down gems on a weapon in slot 2 and use weapon 1 most of the time and swap to weapon 2 when you need it

Is it advisable to go to level 150?

>>163580228
no

>>163580260
Why not

>>163580228
From 1-10, how much do you like fighting LHB?

>>163580228
you'll probably get less pvp action, but there arent any other reasons why you wouldnt go to lv 150

>>163580323
for the same reason you wouldn't go to SL387 in Dark Souls

>>163580014
I'm actually surprised people find her hard at all. I killed her first try. Not trying to be humble, Kos and Ludwig gave me a ton of trouble but Maria seems piss easy.

>>163580345
I see what you mean i guess

I still dont much understand how the pvp level brackets work in this game

>>163580228
That's the Reddit level meta
It's incredibly high and unnecessary and you'll probably find less action than if you just leveled to 100-120.
Plus the people you find will be shitters who love LHB

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>>163580489
She is piss easy. Where do you think all the bullying stuff came from?
Pic related.

>>163580489
>I'm actually surprised people find her hard at all
what

>>163580489
Maria is easy if you are using a physical build with fast weapons because R1 spam and viscerals destroy her.

If you're using a slow weapon and/or have shit visceral damage, she gets a lot harder.

>>163580489
It's super easy to bully her with the Auger, too.

>>163580728
I dunno, I used the Moonlight Sword and died only once or twice. That's a slow weapon.

>>163580728
I killed her my first try with Logarius' wheel.

Does anyone need a hand with a boss at all?

>>163580618
Why would they call her pizza girl?

>>163579913
Yee ofc I got the DLC, the only soul's game I haven't done it for is DS3 because I bought it on steam and it runs at 25-40 frames so why bother

>>163579964
I'll probably mill around and try and coop with y'all though, thanks for the advice on stats though (I assume skill = dex?)

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>>163581357
The pizza cutter is her doom.

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I'm about to start farming Rom
What am I in for?

>NPC hunters still read your inputs
why hasn't this been fixed yet

>>163581506
at least you don't have to farm descendant at D5FRC with 15 vit

>>163581506
Spiders will probably be responsible for most of your deaths, so watch out for them. Better to clear them out for the first phase so you can do as much damage as you can without worry. BB Pellets for split weapons like Tonitrus for a bit of a boost.

>>163581518
The only way to make a challenging AI that still uses balanced weapons and attire designed for your use is to make it read your inputs

>>163581885
Input reads does not equal challenge, it equals cheese

Isn't it kind of funny to hear everyone say Yarghul is the base of operations for Mensis when every Mensis there is dead and has been for a long time?

Has the One Reborn's dialogue ever been dissected?

>>163581518
They don't, what makes you say that? It's easy for them to walk into your r2s.

>>163581998
He has dialogue? What the

>>163582039
They literally do, go fight a Cainhurst hunter and watch it consistently follow you with dodges, dodge and parry half your attacks and just generally be anti-fun
All of them pull that bullshit too, it's not unique to Cainhurst hunters

>>163582207
Lmao, pretty sure they're programmed to shoot after dodging most times regardless if you attack. Just don't attack after they dodge and punish them for it. Exe gloves on Arc builds help stagger them for free hits. Even FRC NPCs are easy to deal with.

To all the anons yesterday who suggested the Saif, thank you. Suicide ran to it and got it to +6 and it is a monster. Digging how the transform attacks can be used as damage dealing dodges too.

>>163582949
most fun build in the game is saif+beast cutter on arcane

both have super low base requirements and are fun as fuck
couple that with hunter tools and elemental damage and go crazy

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Well that part took fucking forever. I wanted to find as much as possible and wound up getting horribly lost. At least the bossfight was fairly easy.

What am I in for now lads?

>>163583528
Lot's of blood, easy parrying and bullying

>>163583528
two boss fights
one waifu

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>>163583629
>>163583596

Holy shit
And they did.

So let me see if I gleaned the basic motivations of each group correctly.
The workshop thinks humans shouldn't fuck around with Old Ones, so they use the power given to them by their Old One patron to go around killing People who want to fuck with Old Ones and vice versa.
Byrgenwyrth thinks people should study Old Ones but also be really fucking careful about it, so they use an Old One to keep strong a barrier between them and us.
Choir just #yolo and uses blood to become as the OO's are. Results vary.
Mensis allies with an Old Ones who wants his kid born. They incubate the kid, the OO promises them collective rebirth as a single OO. The One Reborn is a sort of dry run of this.
The Church Hunters just drink the Choir's Kool-Aid.
The Vilebloods use the blood to fuel their decadence.
The Executioners are largely jsut elite Church Hunters but were led by a Pthumerian. I have no idea what this implies.
The HoH don't really know what's going on but kill powerful hunters before they become too blood-addled to be a serious threat.
Powder Kegs want to blow shit up.
Am I about right?

How the fuck are the two NPC church ladies just before the Research Hall so tough?

>>163583982
They're literally the souls of the leaders of the Church, they should be stronk.

>>163583894
Vilebloods went around killing Hunters fighting the scourge for Blood Dregs. Church saw this as a problem and let the Executioners handle it. There's no solid evidence that Logarius is a Pthumerian.

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>>163583982

Dude I just straight up ran past them after the 82437982nd attempt at trying to kill them. Eventually I figured knocking one down the elevator would be easy enough, but they do so much damage that the window of opportunity just isn't there.

>>163583894

Gonna save this, I've been trying to piece together the story on my own but I'm having a hell of a hard time trying to figure everything out. Even in NG+, I'm pretty out of the loop on what the story is outside of what little exposition the good ending gives me.

>>163584159
>There's no solid evidence that Logarius is a Pthumerian.
He looks like a Pthumerian and his battle has the same tempo. I respect your opinion but unless an otherwise perfect solution to the plot requires Logarius to be human, he'll always be Pthumerian to me.

>>163584181
>wtf are these things
Ayy lmao blue guy prototypes.

>>163584281
Pthumerians are undead who messed with magic shit, so I was always took it that Logarius suffered a similar fate. Doesn't mean he's a Pthumerian, just dead and full of Vileblood evil magic like the Wheel and Exe gloves. Then again, I wouldn't be surprised if Logarius could be another Pthumerian "employed" by the Church like the ones glooming around Cathedral Ward, if they are Pthumerians and not Church experiments.

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Holy shit she is kicking my ass. Boom hammer is a really bad matchup for her and she keeps dodging my cannon.

Anyone want to help me take her out?

>>163584635
>Pthumerians are undead who messed with magic shit
Do we know this? I never found anything implying undeath.

>>163584667
Yes? Pass?

Why does it say "game has not been fully installed" when I try and go online even tho it appears to be done installing? Already tried restarting my PS4

>>163585316

Go to the PSN menu and press options > check for update. Even when its done downloading, it has updates to install afterwards.

>>163585286

Password is dang

I started bloodborne an hour ago and still havent found any weapons

What's the deal?

I just killed the first boss

>>163585451
Some weapons you find, others you can buy at the fountain after getting Hunter Badges, among new items as well. You can get the Kirkhammer badge after killing Cleric beast, which is either your first or second boss depending on which way you go.

>>163585445
Rang

>>163585521
Oh, I just realised I was supposed to die.

Not looking good - worst start mechanic to any souls game so far

As I am now on NG+, I truly know that I hate the Research Hall with every fiber of my being.

I dread how bad the Fishing Hamlet is going to be.

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>>163585638
You killed Gascoigne with your fists on your first playthrough?

>>163585795
Cleric Beast whoever that is

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>>163585532

Thanks for the help, hoping this is the end of all of this fuckery.

>>163585856
You killed cleric beast with your bare hands before dying for the first time?

And you can run to the first lamp and enter the hunters dream that way, no death required

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What's the maximum +phys value that's possible on a Heavy Abyssal? Because I just got this on my fucking BLT build of all things.

>>163586112
Oh

>>163586185
65
And add Phys atk goes up to +15

>>163586302
That gem would've been wonderful on my STR build. Thanks, Bloodborne.

>>163586207
Interestingly enough the only unwinnable fight in the series takes place in Dark Souls 1 with Seath. Glad they dropped that from the formula.

>>163585867
Definitely not. But youre welcome. If you need help Ill be around

>>163586380

Ahhh if you don't mind, I can summon you for the next area. I just got stomped by a huge fishdude and I doubt my fire weapon is helping

>>163586503
Absolutely bro same pass

>>163586372

Well that and Flamelurker.

>>163586372
Yes the first seath fight was garbage

I still dont quite understand the reason why the werewolf in the lab wouldnt die until I used a charge attack though?

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What stats do I need for weapons Arc build, apart from 50 Vit 50 Arc? Should I drop the rest of the points into Str?

God dammit, i keep getting fucked by pthumeru rom. his romelettes keep killing me right as i'm about to finish him off.

>>163586581
You can kill him with normal hits it just takes longer. The charge hits are very hard to land and usually JUST miss on faster enemies and bosses. Your backstab attack/ riposte you can follow up with are visceral attacks that those can be every powerful. They scale off of skill and can deal damage well into the thousands at high levels whereas weapons will rarely break a thousand in a normal hit even when you abuse enemy weaknesses

>>163586671
Sounds like you might just be getting greedy. They can rob you a couple seconds after rom goes down. Either sprint in into a running attack and gtfo over and over again or kill the spiders. It's slower and sometimes dangerous with rom casting shit at you but it's overall safer

>>163586721
I got the werewolf to zero and kept using r1 and it wouldn't die.

>>163586802
>>163586802
with my fists right at the start, mind you.

I assume its supposed to be a "you should die here on your first run" thing, since they didn't explain R2 at all before I had my weapon and I only knew about it from dark souls

>>163586617
Aside from Vit and such, just get base stats for your weapon then dump all the rest in ARC.

>>163586859
I died there on my first run after a pretty good fight. It kind of reminds me of the journey to the nexus from Demons Souls. You get one shot to kill him and if you die it takes you to the main hub. Unlike demons though you can go back a wreck him, though he will be at full health as opposed to half.

I've never finished journey to the nexus on a fresh game. I always choke.

>>163586503
Bit off more than I could chew

>>163586579
>flamelurker
>unwinnable at any point in the game
Your bad is showing.

>>163587026
It happens! I'll be back at the lamp

>>163587009
You get to kill him in world 4.

I like that you got something useful for killing him in DeS.

I didn't like that you got one shot in CGI by the dragon god if you killed him though

Its actually quite an easy fight if you go back and do it now (unlike flamelurker and probably manatees, which I think are significantly harder now)

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>tfw it's a huge hassle to farm Blood Chunks

>>163587185
Just rush the bosses in ptwrx6tb. All of the bosses are easy, and drop around 2 chunks each, and the last one has a chance to drop a rock instead. The entire run (all three levels) takes like 10 minutes total.

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What Gems do i farm to push the AR of my Wheel to even more absurd levels?

>>163587281
it says I dont meet the requirements.
What do i need to do?

>>163587185
Just go thrust weapons and kill everything in that dungeon Lucy is always going on about. It's retarded short, the first two layers are brainsucker boss, watchers, and the last layer is emmisarry

>>163587380
Make a Depth 5 F/R/C chalice and have the Isz roots.

>>163587380
Isz root chalice from clearing Isz regular and you need to have made at least one depth 5 root dungeon with all three curses.

Saw Spear is boring me. What other weapons are fun on ARC builds? I have 11 STR and 8 SKL. Already got the Beast Cutter, planning on making it my main weapon with Arcane gems.

>>163587494
Spaghetti arms

>>163587312
Depends on your build and how you want to use it. Full 32.6% Watcher Blunt Adepts for 50 Strength, mainly for untricked mode. Flat Arcane for tricked multi-hits, any build can use them. Nourishings for 25/50 Str/Arc, mainly for tricked mode and revving.

>>163587530
I don't like the moveset. Everything but the tricked dash R1 is too slow even in PvE situations and aside from the dash R1, it only has the explosion going for it.

>>163587494
11 Skill for Saif, 14 for Church Pick.

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>>163587530

Sorry about that, I was able to kill him but the camera was the real enemy :(

I got another shortcut back to the lamp so I'll wait for you.

I'm also having a shit ton of fun with this game in general, are all the souls games like this?

>>163587631
It's good. Just need to work with both move sets for different situations

>>163587654
Shit, what if I'm already lvl 100? I can get away with Cutter and Threaded Cane right?

>>163587665
Lol that cannon shot messed me up. But on I'm at the lamp. Sorry I'm such trash. I'm a little intoxicated.

>>163587752
Any weapon is good. Axe works too. No one cares if you go over 100.

>>163587494
Saif and LHB.

>>163587665
The souls games are pretty simple. If you like the combat, you'll like them all. Dark souls and demons souls play a lot slower and emphasize slow, methodical combat and carefully clearing rooms.

Aside from that it's all setting differences and the only one that seems to divide the community is Dark Souls 2. I personally love it for what it is, it's the longest and it has a ton of weapons that are all viable. Many others see it as pure trash not worth mentioning.

What is the very earliest point in the game that you can get the Beast Claws? Rushing to Nightmare Frontier immediately after slaying Amelia?

>>163588119
Yes

>>163588119
yeah

>>163588169
>>163588174
That's gonna be a real nightmare to do at a low-ish level.

>Gears general barly alive dying fast
Microcuckactions will do that

>>163588205
Yeah good luck when abhorrent beast backhands you into next week over and over.

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>>163566335
/cutehunter/ here senpai

>>163588261
You don't need to fight Abhorrent to get beast claws.

>>163588261
I'm gonna make it happen. I'm finally gonna realise my dream of doing a dedicated Beast Claw build.

>>163587665
Some of them are. But bloodbornes is the best. Sorry I died again. I dunno why I was one shoted. Hope you got orphan

>>163588313
I guess you dont need to fight abhorrent. You gonna kill Laurence for the beast rune too?

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>>163588385

I think this picture perfectly encapsulates how that fight went lol

>>163588413
I'm on the fence about using the Beast's Embrace rune, to be honest. Beast Claw+rune has its own drawbacks like a lack of dash attack and generally being slower, but it's got greater range and hits harder than without the rune.

>reading hail the nightmare translated lyrics
>straight up saying they are trying to rez kos
MYAZAKY P L S

Holy shit, he kicked my ass hard.

We might need a third person for this

>>163588424
Shiiit lol>>163588678
Nah dude we got this

Sorry, not sure how to dodge him when he keeps swinging that thing at me.

>>163588678
Jests dude.

Man, i feel like the biggest scrub ever when fighting Maria because when she gets to phase 3, I always have to have to rely on parries to beat her. I feel that this is partially due to using Str weapons.

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>tfw you love the classic dungeon crawling feel of chalice dungeons but have all your weapons upgraded and gemmed and maxed out every shop item
The option to manually insert glyphs was a mistake, it completely killed the most fundamental part of dungeon crawling, getting loot.

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aaaaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>>163589656
Nice dude

Thank you both for the help, would have been stuck here for ages otherwise! I'm definitely making a new character soon to try out these other weapons lol

>>163589792
Np. Bro

>>163565214
Why is /bbg/ still a thing? Did something happen since the beginning of the year? Thought you'd have folded into /dsg/ by now.

Thank god!
I finally killed Defiled Amygdala.
What an awful fight...

>>163589954
I was stuck there for over 10 hours. Congrats man. I will never do that bullshit again and I wish there was a way to exclude that fight from SRRC matchmaking.

>>163590281
its just another step towards the Queen, the last unique boss fight I have to fight. After that, I officially consider my first character in "post-game". Gem farming and going as far into NG+ cycles as I can is all thats left for me. I do feel a little guilty for boosting my character to 125, actually I'm going to push him to 130 but I dont really care that much, I'm having so much fun that I just want to keep playing with him. Until I start working on my new characters that is.

>>163590548
SRRC matchmaking is really fun besides defiled Amy, and my 162 character that I made after release that uses every weapon still gets instant co op in dungeons

>>163590827
well that's good to hear, that I'll still get online activity at this high of a level. I was worried that the meta stayed at 100 and it would be totally dead beyond that.

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so what the fuck is the point of blades being wrapped in cloth in this game? does that kinda defeat the purpose of a bladed weapon like the Saif? i assume its just to look cool unless its some sort of makeshift serration.

>>163590917
The bandages soak up the blood of your foes which is transferred to you for the rally mechanic.

So if I run out of blood vials while fighting a boss am I just resigned to running through the area killin until I get a sizeable amount?

Do blood vials you collect when you already have 20 disappear or are they stored somewhere?

Should I have upgraded my weapon before father gascoigne? (first boss I've encountered)

>>163592563
>Do blood vials you collect when you already have 20 disappear or are they stored somewhere?
They go to your storage, yes. If you have vials left in the storage, you get them automatically on respawn.

You have to go killing and looking for vials, unfortunately. You can also buy them from the messengers, but in the very beginning of the game you probably won't earn enough blood echoes to buy a lot of them each run.

>>163592563
sure, if you need to

yeah they are put in storage

no that shouldn't be needed but you can

>>163581369
Skill = dex yes

Good God, I hat no idea the Saif was so fun. Just bought Old Hunters today, and after being shit on despite my being level 80 or so, I've made my way to some of the cool weapons in the DLC. Unfortunately I can't use most of them because of my fucked up stats, but that's a first playthrough for you.

Any tips for the Saif? The moveset seems fun and interesting with the advancing and retreat options.

>>163589730
>>163589936
>>163589068
>>163588763
What is the reason for your trip? Just trying to become le internet famous?

>>163593131
It's a Skill/Quality weapon. 25/50 Str/Skl, 50/25 is doable if you slot a Heavy Abyssal. Or 50+ Arc if you're converting it to fire/bolt/arcane.

URGENT CHRISTMAS ENERGENCY

I need a good picture of the skeleton banging on the gate near Ludwig. I can't find one on Google and I can't be bothered sifting through dozens of hours of Lets Play footage to take a screenshot. And I don't have my ps4 with me.

Please, anyone.

>>163593859
For what purpose?

>>163593946
Christmas business

Hurry I only have an hour an half.

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>>163593859
Is this enough?

>>163593859
If I had some I would give 'em to ya senpai. It's christmas after all

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>>163594029
no, I need his face.

Any of the similar skeletons will do, but a nice portrait of his face with a little bit of head room.

>>163594197
I like what you're doing. If I find my usb you'll give a screen capture. Don't get your hopes up.

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Doing a strength build with focus on kirkhammer and tonitrus for melting bosses. Should I bother leveling arc for the tonitrus? I've never done a specific build before, so I'm looking for advice.

>>163594289
Tonitrus has garbage ARC scaling.

>>163594289
Tonitrus is Str/Arc, and Kirk can be converted. So if you want to use both effectively a 25/50 Str/Arc build would be the best choice. 50/25 might be worser for Toni since most of its damage comes from the buff, which scales with Arc.

>>163594368
If you switch a pure physical weapon to Arc scaling then it loses all of it's Str or Skl scaling.

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>>163594274
Is no one here actually playing the game?

It'd take 5 minutes to warp to Nightmare Church, take a picture of his ugly mug, and upload it.

>>163594516
It is quite a dead time of the day.

>>163594331
It has great scaling, what are you talking about?

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>>163594274
Here we are. These are the best I could.

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>>163594908
There's more, waiting to post them is a pain.
2/7

>>163594908
Your a saint!

i don't suppose you could get a picture of you killing the nightmare exectutioner and the 10 Quick Silver Bullets drop still being on screen by any chance, could you?

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>>163594970
3/7

>>163595003
That's probably impossible since they have to disappear for the bullets to drop

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>>163595082
4/7

>>163595082
No that's exactly what I need, just the screen with the rectangle that says "Quick Silver Bullets - 10" before you press X.

I would be able to find it by just watching some lets plays of anyone who kills it, but I'm running out of time. it should also be obvious what I'm doing by now

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>>163595152
5/7

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>>163595241
6/7

>>163595227
Okay, will do.

>>163595305
You are a wonderful human bean anon, this is muchly appreciated.

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>>163595305
7/7
This one is from the corpses in front of Ludwig's fog, they looked close enough for a frontal shot.

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1/6

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>>163595881
2/6

>>163595881
That's Litterally perfect. Thank you so much.

Merry Christmas to you and your kin

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>>163595950
3/6

>>163595227
What are you trying to do?

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>>163596029
4/6

>>163595950
Looking back at it, the mercy gesture would be nice with this one.

>>163596090
You'll see.

It just needs to upload, which on my current internet could take fucking hours.

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>>163596103
5/6

>>163596090
Giving Christmas presents to an anon

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>>163596173
6/6
This one is an extra.

Should I prevent myself from becoming overleveled? I'm level 80 at Nightmare of Mensis and just started the Old Hunter DLC. Doing the Chalice Dungeons gave me so many extra echos that I could probably level up to 90. Should I? I don't really have much else to spend echos on.

>>163596815
Level up to 98 and stop, forever. 98 is the meta here, plus it lets you play with 120s as well as having massive Co-Op range.

>>163596815
Whatever you think it's better. I walk around with over a million echoes because I don't have anything to spend them on.

Just beat the one reborn how far am I from the end?

>try coop for the first time, ring my small bell at father gascoigne
>wonder if this might actually be difficult with more people since I beat him just by staggering him constantly with my pistol and visceraling, which could get difficult with 3 people
>it literally doesn't matter as we fucking surround him in a tag team facefucking match and stunlock him forever

I didn't even know there was an animation where if his beast mode gets hurt enough he starts cradling his head.

>>163597050
2 required bosses, 2 optional if you've done everything possible before and met certain requirements.

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do you guys ever use the half-backstep move? Where you press circle and just take like 3/4ths of a full dash backwards (and can do it while not locked on?)

I noticed there were some unique moves and combos that seemed to have to be started with a half backstep, but I'm always too pussy to try using it over a regular dash in a boss fight

>>163597060
>I didn't even know there was an animation where if his beast mode gets hurt enough he starts cradling his head.
Someone must have used the music box, it stuns him for a while.

>>163597097
Does that include the old hunter DLC?

I have beaten nightmare frontier and cainhurst.

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>>163597113
oops wrong webm

but like the feint move here

>>163597130
Is Gascoigne optional or something? He was the first boss I fought and the people I'm cooping with seem to have a lot more gear than what I've found so far, and I've been fairly thorough

>>163597142
Nah, there's like 5 bosses in the DLC

>>163597265
Nice. That means I still have at least 10 hours in this game?

>>163597190
Ravioli steps, it's where you backstep and move the opposite direction to go foward to use a backstep move. It's a common thing in PvP.

>>163597317
Sure, more if the DLC bosses/areas give you a tough time. There's also Chalice Dungeons, Co-op/PvP if you have PS+

>>163597197
He's a main boss. Shitters have a hard time with him so he must be popular at low levels. And about their gear, meeting overleveld people with late game itens is very common in coop.

>>163597413
Not sure if I should get PS+

Right now the games I have are
>Disgaea 5
>FFXV
>Odin Sphere
>Unchartered 4
>Bloodborne

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>>163596937
Why not go to 100?

98 was originally meant to avoid Reddit 120 IIRC

Then Reddit went to 150 because they thought the extra passive defence actually did shit, and on top of that one of the last patches meant 98 could actually hit 120, making 98 pointless

Even if 100 still hits 150 shitters, why not make the meta 99?

98 meta seems like an antique tbqh desu

>>163597579
Never played any of them besides Bloodborne, but I'd say PS+ is worth it. Especially if you wanna farm for the best gems easily, or at least easier than making your own dungeons in hopes of specific enemies spawning to farm. Co-op is really fun, some people aren't too fond of the PvP but I'd say it's pretty fun. We have fight clubs every Saturday, mostly everyone is decked out with the best gems though.

>>163597673
bbg fc is anywhere between 80 and 120. I believe most of the fags here go 117 for their precious HMLB. I don't know what makes you think 98 is the absolute stop.

>>163597673
98 has better ranges and avoids the 150 redditors.

98 can invade level 80s and be summoned by level 65s naturally.

98 was never meant to avoid 120s.

why and how the fuck are there so many specters in hunter's dream

>>163597805
98 is the absolute stop. Why do you think cheesers stop at 117?

>>163597839
Doll rejected their marriage proposal so they sudoku'd

>>163597839
spergoids kill themselves in front of the doll

>>163597579
Uncharted has a great online mode and I love cooping with people to show off my autism gems.
I would say it's worth the price if you have money to spare.

>>163597190
Yes, it's great on the cane and Logarius' Wheel
Backstep + R2 has a different move too

>>163597914
>>163597916
oh, so it's like that ds2 meme where everyone killed themselves in the same spot with the katana

harrowed set best set

What's the recommended level for the DLC? I just made it to the cathedral, can I just beeline for it?

>>163598256
65+

>>163597805
I've been in /bbg/ FCs since summer 2015 when we had a giant FC with Reddit and Facebook

I'm not arguing /bbg/ meta because I don't give a fuck. I've regularly turned up with finished and unfinished builds

I just think 98 is outdated since I heard level ranges got patched

>>163597824
So you can guarantee 98 is the break point between not hitting a 150 Redditor and 99 is hitting a 150 Redditor?

Invading 80s is completely pointless. Perfectly gemmed weapons with perfect bonuses and ideal curses destroys 150 Redditors, Ludwigs players in Mensis are no fun at all

Average players overlevel anyway, so summon ranges isn't an issue, never mind >passwords for requested co-op

>>163598302
>Invading 80s is completely pointless.
It wasn't at the time, and most people going through Mensis are around level 80.

>>163579964
>50str/25skl

Most soul's games having an even split is fine, is strength really that much better/skill that bad in BB?

>>163598215
>/fa/ hobo rags get given great defences against pretty much everything except frenzy

>>163598387
Nah, 50/25 let's you use mostly every weapon effectively, allowing you to experiment. 50/25+ is better than 40/40 for most weapons due to softcaps being 25 and 50. But for first playthroughs it's better to go 25/25 then pump whichever you prefer to 50.

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>>163598384
It has always been pointless

Even before the DLC dropped, saw spears with full bolt setups or chikages with full offshape setups obliterated your average level 80s Ludwigs + cannon + white church set player in Mensis

Anyway, like I said, is there any hard evidence a level 98 will not hit a 150 Redditor and a level 99 will hit a 150 Redditor?

I've made dozens of BB builds, some complete, some incomplete and 100-110 always seemed like the perfect range for softcaps, stat bonuses, weapon reqs, stamina etc. Anything below benefits pure builds too heavily and anything above is full Havels + washing pole + avelyn + WOG faggot in Darkroot

>>163599035
The whole point is you aren't supposed to be able to have your cake and eat it too. You should not be able to have a max damage gun plus a max damage Whirly.

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>>163566335
Me.

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>>163599175
That's not what we're talking about. I agree 120 and even fucking 150 is too high, it's this 98 autism that no one is backing up without pre-patch reasoning

I'm arguing that no one has given me precise evidence why new players who want to play in /bbg/ FCs should stick at 98 instead of going to 99 or 100. The old 10+10% allowed 98s to miss 120s, but level ranges have been expanded since. I even invaded a fucking dude in the 40s (PMd him) in Central Yharnam almost straight away

I know it's debating margins, but I'm pretty sure the old reasoning for 98 doesn't hold up anymore with level ranges being patched. ''It's how we've always done it'' is a cop-out answer and might work on newfags, but that's it

The lack of data mining and testing in BB is pretty bad and leads to people spouting metas without backing it up

Any of the other oldfags on /bbg/ got answers to this?

>>163579808
>bolt
>adds fire

>bolt
>attack loss against ayys

>fire
>add bolt

>fire
>attack loss against beasts

>att up
>att down

>hp regen
>hp depletes
actually there's plenty of ways to fuck up gems, but the drops were nicer when the game was released
now it's 45% hp depletes/attack down/durability down

>>163600289
No one is forcing you to go 98. Like I said before, most people here go for 110-117 because they want 50 vit, a little more stamina or 15-18 arc for tools. There's no argument to be made because everybody knows 98 meta is outdated and that nobody follows it to the letter.

So guys, I just got BB Goty.
Do I have to download a lot of updates before the game is in a playable shape? I want to get my dick wet as fast as possible but also don't want to rush it if without updates the game is unplayable trash.

/dsg/ forwarded me here.

>>163601267
Loading screens can be quite long and annoying if you don't patch it. This was a major complaint at launch

>>163601267
Updates are pretty fast. I was playing the game within 15 minutes. I have the Old Hunter edition

>>163601404
>>163601689
Well, thanks guys.

>>163601742
Merry christmas. Enjoy your new game

>>163600289
You're an idiot. Being able to play with level 80s and level 120s is the main reason 98 stuck.

You guys want to co op something?

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>>163600747
Yeah I know mate, I feel 100-117 is the best anyway, but I thought Luci had some hard evidence for his 98 masterrace, but it seems he can't provide any

Have about 800 hours in BB and I want to make a poison build before leaving it for good. I have a few 98 builds from 2015, a 117 and 120, but I wanted clarity for this

>>163602567
Haha fuck off mate

I basically agree with most of what you're saying, you're just such an infant you can't see it

Idk why I asked a guy who never attends FCs about meta advice anyway. More fool me, I guess

I found a Circular Cursed Tempering Damp Blood Gem (6). Is this rare or special?
The effects are
Physical ATK UP +22.3%
Add slow poison effect +2.5
Increases stamina costs 2.9%

>>163603943
Those are fairly common in cursed dungeons

>>163603943
Saw hunter NPC?

Put it into a gun and gun spam something, see if you can poison

>>163604040
Oh ok.
>>163604074
Would the Gatling Gun work well for that?

>>163604120
Fuck sorry, i read that as radial, a circular gem with that effect is super rare, as it is an off shape gem