/smtg/ - 真・女神転生/Shin Megami Tensei General

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Have you guys seen Pascal? I can't find him anywhere.

>>163550741
I fused him with a demon then he ran off into this terminal.

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http://www.strawpoll.me/11542461
vote

>>163551805
Do we need to do this again? What's it achieving?

>>163552693
do not question my motives manchild

>strange journey 2nd place
Why megaten fans are such contrarians? the game sold like crap both in Japan and in murrica

>>163551805
MT2

Would Mastema have been a bond or massacre representative in Apocalypse?

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>>163550741

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Hey anons, I've been digging through that huge ass fuck rar file that has all of the voices from SMTIV in the pastebin, and Im wondering if someone's done it already for Apocalypse. If not, Im willing to learn how and ripping all the voices for everybody.

>>163555153
Probably bonds.

>>163555153
Neither, he's law

>>163526738
People aren't immortal. Krishna tells you people die and reincarnate and the Axiom CANNOT be overturned. And all souls will be shared amongst all gods, most of whom are evil. What Krishna planned to do is make a temporary afterlife where everyone becomes one with him.

>>163537939
The White are human suffering in general. They didn't want a solution that didn't involve permanent non-existence.

And Jon and Walts mangas were planned, unlike IVA, so one revealed the Demonic Gene and the other revealed a Fallen turning into a proper angel and try to activate the Demonic Gene on God's Orders afterwards, which we see with a brief Demonic Hope. IVA did leave out a bunch of shit, but other shit was already there and it answered it horribly.

Oh and Spookyghost/Blackman Flynn being implied halves of White!Flynns soul split into Law/Chaos.

>>163556079
Mastema opposed the Archangels and their plans to build the Millennium Kingdom in IV. He was just holding Tokyo down long enough for a solution to come up. It's highly unlikely that he would support Merkbah's plan to destroy Tokyo, or even align with the Divine Powers since they're a threat.

>>163555153
Bondsfag according to those anons some months back who mentioned him, Minotaur, and Asmodeus/His Zoroastrian version being Akira's demon.

And since Apocalypse actually has random encounters be fucking more relevant/proper to where they are fought Mastema's a mass produced angel too as we see in the Egoverse.

>>163556405
I'm pretty sure that Inanna would be too attached to the people to let them be killed off and their souls equally shared with the other gods.

>>163556757
"Most" wasn't there for nothing.

>>163556757
Inanna will just get new kids to give birth too instead. It all works out. Kids dienafterall.

>>163556680
Would Mastema have been a better Bonds representative than Nozomi/Danu?

>>163556997
Most likely. He'd also be honest and actually get more demons to help, including ones that can keep Nanashi alive.

One of Tayam's thugs implied that he did almost all deals with demons when they learn Yuriko is one.

Not he also wouldn't pretend to have some moral high ground because I can see him and Dagda having pissing contests.

>>163557208
Mastema and Dagda having pissing contests sounds like a missed opportunity.
How would he have handled Toki being possessed by Inanna?

>>163557454
Probably lock her up till she learns to control it, because fuck Nozomi's "We're all besties cause we fought together" retarded mentality. Probably have Minako return instead of dropping her and have her absorb the Aether instead.

Anyone have a good screenshot of YHVH's final form from SMT4A?

>These magatama prices on hard mode
I didn't think it would get this bad.

>>163551805
>best gameplay
>3rd
this will trigger me forever

>>163559960
nocturne is in first anon

>>163559839
I'm just glad those are the only thing I had to buy that made a difference, at least until late game to fill out the compendium and make all those super fusions I wanted.

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>>163560230

>>163551805
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlJrEwEMIpM

>>163557915
Minako would have already been turned to Ishtar by the time Apocalypse takes place. All absorbing the aether will do is make Ishtar transform into Inanna, making the whole thing a bit organic.

>>163552693
You realize its the same survey every time right? Guys just making sure we have everyone.

>>163566023
I'm purposefully not voting.

SMT x Fate

>>163563459
She only becomes Ishtar on Chaos anon. She herself made a bet on becoming Ishtar by absorbing related demons.

The same can happen with Inanna, but that the chance of becoming a related demon made her Inanna instead.

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>>163562365
>Shin Megami Tensei: Nocturne would never take advantage of our innate gullibility
Gets me every time.

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>>163556078
Im self replying here, but after a few hours, I've decrypted and decompressed the english SMTIVA rom and I now have all of the sfx/voice lines which is about ~6300 files. I'll be uploading it soon after I clean it up and convert to mp3 and stick it on to MEGA or something.

Can I get some help? I know I'm missing some skills, I only saw them in the lilith battle on some humans so I couldn't nab them will I find them in the skills dlc? Also is there a list of all the demons in ds2 rb, I'm at 96% compendium without the final two bonus bosses.

i let the demons out kojiro

Hoy

>>163571445
nani

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>be ATLUS USA
>localize games for a modest company that is neither too big, but has their own cult following of fans and JRPG enthusiasts
>be self-aware enough to know that most consumers and clerks in the west cannot even pronounce the full name of the games you localize
>these games also go on sale quite often, to ensure that more people play them, and to free stock space from retailers, because otherwise the games would only sit there and gather dust
>most of the games you sell are niche, and even your best selling franchise can't compete against bigger series from other companies
>and then, after knowing all these factors, decide to put a special tax on your games, making them the most expensive games on release available in the market from their respective platforms
>only for them to gather dust and force retailers to sell them for 3/4 of their original price

Is ATLUS USA trying to sabotage itself? Maybe the higher ups are secretly working for Square Enix.
Otherwise I don't see the logic behind the ATLUS tax.

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How's the SMT1 port for the iphone? Never played the original

>>163576949
I remember someone linking to an autist who made around 3 full blog posts complaining about how awful it was, but I can't recall which aspects he was criticizing.

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>>163576026
>Otherwise I don't see the logic behind the ATLUS tax.
Have you even played one of their "localizations"?
It should be pretty obvious that they are a bunch of retards.

>>163576949
it's genuinely bad

not only is it based on the worst version of the game, but it somehow has less features than the super fucking buggy AGTP translation, it doesn't even let you input lower case letters for your name

>>163576026
WHY THE FUCK IS APOCALYPSE SO FUCKING EXPENSIVE

Why YHVH wanted people to be half demon again? People bitch about him being 'cartoonish evil' in FInal but how else would Atlus explain the convoluted mess that was the SMT IV plot

>>163579271
The demonic shit was basically a countermeasure against rebellion. Basically, if people started to realize that they were being exploited, they would get turned into demons.

>>163579778
It still fucking retarded couldn't he just brainwash people or something? Not only that but didn't the samurai supposedly lack the demonic gene for being descended from the hunters? yet Hope becomes a demon...

>>163579271
They could have ignored it like they did with Mastema.

>>163579778
Which then caused them to rebel harder, only now as vicious superpowered monsters capable of outfighting the constabulary.

Also,
>being given a demon free paradise
>exploited

>>163580225
Only 10% lack it. Most Samurai, not all, are descended from CDF members.

>>163580225
That was their brainwashing method. They become YHVHs thralls whether they're Fallen or not. Demonic Hugo became one with his Universe afterall.

>>163580869
So you mean they became MORE extreme and thus easier to control?

>>163579271
Mikado's not natural to a Millennium Kingdom in the first place, I'd just write any of it off as thanks to King Akira's interference, same as the entire social structure in general.

What's convoluted about SMTIV's plot anyway? The only issue I had with it was how the major Law/Chaos alignment choices didn't match up to the Law/Chaos you ended up with.

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Mahou Shojo themed SMT when

>>163582252
Gabriel never sought to remake the kingdom until after Lilith defiled it as mentioned in the artbook.

13 Years. Mikado, its social structure, foundation, etc. had been set in place for 13 years. Then after seeing it as a rousing succees the Archangels then tried to destroy Tokyo, which lead Akira and Mastema to turn on them directly.

The only system set in place that could actually bring change to the kingdom is the Samurai as K notes if you talk to him through the game and he mentions only a Samurai could end Mikado.

Ironically despite being a CHAOS END, Mikado is left untouched and Tokyo is forever separated from Mikado in Demonic Gene due to the Sky Towers obliteration.

Would Mastema put Inanna in her place if she stepped out of line, or went all "I'm Mother of All" on him?

>>163583005
Throw Danu/Nozomi at her as a completely and totally willing sacrifice that was completely okay with being ripped to shreds by her raging element attacks and would definitely not curse Mastema.

Then she jooins us and at full power she probably gets Null where her resists use to be and likely no longer becomes weak to certain elements.

I imagine that would be one option. The other is too kill her and rob Danu of stealing more of Inanna's power (Dagda) and the shittiest option of Danu and Nozomi stealing it for muh fairies.

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;_;

>>163583845
What's wrong, anon?
Are you becoming attached to your demons or your friends or something?

>first playthrough of Nocturne
>completely ignoring magatama thinking their temporary stat buffs
>just finished Ikebukuro
>only realizing now that they were permanent and interchangable and gave you stat bonuses

How badly have I fucked up?

>>163585745
Not that badly, just go back and buy them from shops.

>>163585934
Are the bonus stat increases upon level up that I missed important though? I could've had the strength magatama as far back as Ginza and that was probably 10 levels ago (I'm 25 now) and that's 10 points I could've split between vit/agi.

Also does the game get plot heavy at any point? I'm enjoying the gameplay very much so far but feels as if the plot is unfolding very slowly (don't care much for plot in games just curious).

>>163586454
Wait, I think you're understanding magatamas wrong. You don't get any permanent strength from magatamas, just a temporary buff over your base stats. As for the plot I'm only about halfway through so I can't really say.

>>163586454
I thought the extra stat point you got from one upon level up was permanent?

>>163586852
That's just chance luck. If your magatama acts up you have a chance to get a random stat increase, but that happens with any magatama so you aren't missing anything by just having the default equipped. All you really missed was some skills.

>>163586454
The game will have some explanations later, but Nocturne never really gets plot heavy. Most of your time is spent punching demons in long dungeons.

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>>163569683
thanks bro, time to collect audio files for posterior uses

>>163587098
And all the backstory plot was added in Amala in Maniax, the version we got.

>>163587149
This is really disgusting

I can't seem to find the comic of demifiend threatening the manikin at the arcade with google or on the booru, can someone repost it?

Also, is the magatama I get from doing the game actually worth the effort?

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>>163589660
Merry Christmas, faggot.
Also IIRC, the magatama gives healing spells, but nulls light.

Hoy.

Dumb question but can magic proc crits in Final?

>>163593765
While Smirking. There may be a passive skill that enable magic crits without Smirk.

>>163593935
Oh well darn.
I was hoping to do a MA/LU run.
Guess I better but a few points into ST then

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'Twas the morning before Christmas, when all through the general.
Not a demon was stirring, not even a shitposter;

Hoy.

>toki says she'll follow you anywhere
>doesn't follow you on the edgy path

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>>163596719

>>163587149
I figured. I've kept some of Odin and Krishna's lines for personal reasons and a friend's, but I did find Toki's lewd lines from when she was posessed by Inanna and when she was plugging the jars so I guess people will enjoy that stuff.

Ill be uploading it by the end of today as I have to get Christmas stuff done, but there was some files that even when I had the proper plugins and rips, it ended up unreadable/corrupted, but im gonna guess its small sound effects.

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>most of the manchildren on /smtg/ are getting dragged out of their beds to worship Dionysus today and tomorrow
Guess it's my duty to save this general in His name.

>>163582249
It not only jeopardise the kingdom safety but it makes even more people have strong burst of emotions and becoming demons themselves... pretty much any other method would be better the demonic gene shit it's so beyond retarded that YHVH being evil incarnate and using law and chaos to have fun is the best explaination they could come up with

Happy Devil Summoner Day.

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Merry Christmas /smtg/!
I got the files all together, But here's all of the voice lines (I believe) from Shin Megami Tensei IV Apocalypse. This does not include music, sound effects or DLC music or sounds.You can just get the soundtracks on their own and in better quality than a 3ds rom rip's.

Here it is: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BwLSE_5XM2m1VXZ0LTV4UUdGb2c

I hope you guys have a Merry Christmas and happy holidays.

>obtain SMT IV:F for Christmas
>whats the game about anon??
>all eyes on me

Whats the edgiest thing I can say /smtg/?

>>163608348
it's about sucking dick

>>163608295
I do like Odins redesign in 4A.

>>163608348

>"Killing god."

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>>163582486
Like, now.

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>>163608348
You murder god as a crossdressing faggot by forcing your fat green cock down his throat until he dies.

>>163608348
>heh. you dont even wanna know
>teleports behind grandma

>>163611563
accurate
>>163611126
SMT x Utena when, fuck sailor shit

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ONE MORE GOD ACCEPTED

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>>163550476
This OP is not Christmasy enough.

You have failed the general, you bitch ass messiah.

>>163608348
This game will allow me to awake to the futility of friendship and relying on others. And it will let me get rid of ---- once and for all.

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>>163550741

>>163608348
Let me show you...
https://youtu.be/WiUZ-Taprow?t=1m10s

So like, I'm upgrading my internet from 1mb/s to 100mb/s and will be able to actually stream now. Anyone interested in a MegaTen stream all night/morning? I have all the animations, and I'm pretty close to beating SMTII.

>>163617252
Sure I'd watch.

What's with all the black upper lips?

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>>163617661
It's a jojo reference.

>>163608348
It's a game in which you punch Yahweh in his fat stupid face.

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>>163617883
Now I can't unsee it. Kanako darkens it harder though, so it's more distinct.

>>163618357
YHVH didn't seem relevant until the last part of the game when Dagda and Stephen went "Hey stupid, got off your lazy ass and kill YHVH already"

> Buddha is a bad guy

>>163582249
>So you mean they became MORE extreme and thus easier to control?
No, quite the opposite. The first things the demon people did was murder people and destroy everything. Far harder to control.

>>163608348
It's about how Japanese don't understand religion at all.

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>>163605658
This reminds me. Were there any news from Debisama translator? I remember him saying that if he couldn't work on the patch, he's going to release the tools.

>>163569683
Did you find the sound effect for YHVH's name? If so, can you share?

>>163619531
But demons have been talking about him throughout the whole game and say he's the reason everything in the universe is so shitty, if you been siding with Dadga since the start then you know you were eventually going to have to kill him.

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Why is this not aviable in my smartphone

>>163620925
They don't understand Stephen Hawking either. The writers legit think that he's a bhudda, which is why Stephen is written as Maitreya in the game.

>>163623657
Your smartphone doesn't look like a gun

>>163623657
Because Nanshi is already a gary stu that can make any women wet for him.

>>163623987
He's more of a neutral drone who is a slave to his friends and Dagda. The game just doesn't trust the MC enough to make him a Gary Stu.

>>163624152
So Asahi doesn't become a colossal asshole?
Or does that happen but we can't kill her?

>>163624701
Shesha eats her and she stays dead when you go Massacre route unless you make her your goddess

>>163625019
>unless you make her your goddess
Welp!
I already worship her tits so may as well worship the rest of her.

>>163623987
that is not IVA m8

>>163624701
The game really missed an opportunity to have Pascal the Imouto challenge a Toki transformed Inanna into a pissing match. The banter would've been hilarious.

>>163625389
But it is, everyone except for maybe Nozomi wants to suck Nanashi's dick,

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>>163623657
Which MegaTen is this?

>>163627223
Soul Hackers

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>first playthrough of IVA
>have to navigate through Tsukiji Konganji again to find Flynn
>it's a hundred times harder and more confusing than I remember it being in IV
The White really were right, lads. Nobody should have to suffer like this.

>>163627223
Soul Hackers.

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>>163627630
It's not that bad as long as you try mapping out where each teleporter goes
There's only three floors

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>>163627630
At least it's short.

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>>163627630
>IV uses Hongwanji
>IVA uses Konganji
Which one is it?

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>>163628103
Just got to the fourth Brane, and I still don't get why people hate this dungeon so much.

>>163628569
Maybe it's neither.

>>163628683
ITS SO BORING

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>>163628569
Marici or Marishiten?
Which one is it?

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>>163629278

>>163628683
They're all a bunch of casuals that have never been a real dungeon before.

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>>163629671
Yeah, they gotta get this good stuff.
Spoilers for NSFW

>>163629671
>real dungeon
>its just the same dungeon a million times with no landmarks whatsoever
i bet you're someone who defends memely default

>>163629278
It's not as bad as Eridanus.
Or Sandy Barrens in Etrian Odyssey

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>>163630069
Unf

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>>163630426

>>163628569
Apparently IVA intentionally changed the spelling in Nip

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>>163630131
Might have to give EO a shot

>>163623674
Not just him.

Mido and Saint Germain as well. Mido's acting crazy and happy regardless of the choice you pick too. A little too happy about you murdering your friends though, while he doesn't bring up Dagda.

How do I fuse Dagdad?

>>163631169
You can't. Not in 4A, at least.

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So who's going to play Last Bible multiplayer with me?

>>163620695
The demons were trying to convert more people to demonize/become Liliths willing followers, who as we know loves setting her own believers to die like flies.

They were easily dealt with and kept under control.

>>163632187
Isn't he only in the Demi Kids game besides Apocalypse?

>>163633110
He was in one of the Persona 2 games as well, I think.

>>163633110
He was a ginger barbarian too carrying around his magic cauldron.

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I want Nemissa as my christmas present

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Would you a prototype Dagdad?

>>163635656
Looks pretty Bara.

>>163635656
Not really sure if the design fits his personality

>>163635856
It doesn't. Better a design that embodies his edge/duty as a god of life and death.

Barbarian Dagda would likely be far more depressed and miserable when saying that stuff, while SkeleDagda hides it beneath his surging rage and anger.

>>163635656
looks like a fatter papa nier

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Merry Xmas.

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>>163630426
>>163630563
Debisama a best

>>163638407
Fucking fat idol slut piece of shit

Playing DDS for the first time
>Trying to get anywhere
>5 Encounters when crossing a small room

>One or two fights away from maxxing a Mantra and so hanging out by the save point
>Encounters take fucking forever to show up

I have no idea what is going on, but this game hates me. pretty fun though

>>163636907
Barbarian Dagda would be cool to have as a demon in another SMT game where he isn't part of the story.

>>163638407
She ia such a shit girl. At least post Kiria.

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>>163640207
Elly is best girl.

>>163640924
>tfw you'll never make quarter jap babies with Ellie
Why live?

Is there a Heaven/Hell afterlife in SMT?

We know there's reincarnation, ghosts ,transformation into a spiritual being, and likely ascending the material plane.

Do most souls just reincarnate?

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>>163641537
There are multiple ones in Devil Children and one for both in Majin Tensei.

>>163643154
Human ghosts and normal humans live in both.

Mirai Kanames first crush was a boy ghost who died young and protected her on Lucys orders.

Majin Tensei had weird ghostly people in Amnesia and Mutants in Paranoia.

>>163643154
Are they canon in the number SMT universe?

>>163643283
They might exist but if they're like IVs then it's just fancy domains where demons live.

Just look at Ixtabs paradise.

>>163635656
aww he looks kinda like darunia from oot
that dagda looks more hearty and fun

>>163645097
Maya is a queen, The perfect woman.

>>163645097
I am suddenly filled with negative thinking.

I want to kill my friends now.

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>>163645604
What's stopping you?

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>>163645508
I love her design so much.
I'd love to make her dress in real life

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>>163645734
No demons, no guns, no apocalypse.

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>>163645796
Do it anon.

>>163648820
Who is this dashing caballero?

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I WANT TO IMPREGNATE HATHOR!

>>163649050
hoy

>>163649075
Hathor best demonfu. I wish she hadn't been so shit in Apocalypse.

>>163651162
lol weak to phys

>>163649075
Hathor pleases old pretas for macca

when is female mc in mainline
i want to lose to demons and see female mc get a dose of BDC (big demon cock)

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Who here enjoys killing their friends?

Oh, who am I kidding. We ALL do.

>>163652569
Women cant handle being messiahs.

>>163651162
>>163651264
Can just fix that with skills my dudes

>>163652371
You're demonfu is shit

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>>163649075

Merry Christmas guys.

>>163654071
Merry Christmas anon, I genuinely hope you're spending the holiday with someone you love.

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>>163652742

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Merry Krishnas, /smtg/

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>>163654882
merry krishnas to you too

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Merry Dionysus!

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ho ho ho
merrhee christmas
give me a life stone!

>>163655914
>Comply

>>163655914
>Cheat

>>163655914
>Refuse

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>>163655971
>>163656072
>>163656151

twitch tv/kahntrast

Streaming Megami Tensei OVA and Tokyo Revelations.

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Have a nice wheee!!

>>163657072
I want to tico tico-tico's tico-ticos

>get divine shot on demi fiend
>he starts vaporizing bosses
this is amazing.

>>163658042
I've used nothing but Divine Shot every fight since getting it. Way better than looking at Lunge all the time.

>>163658042
it goes lunge ---> divine shot ---> spiral viper ---> freikugel

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Merry christmas, faggots.

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>Now beat the shit out of this little cocksucker
This fucking dub.

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>>163660964
I let the demons out Kojiro

>playing through smt4a for the first time
>shesha fucking eats asahi
>toki's dialogue afterwards
kek

>>163661512
>shesha fucking eats asahi
Was SMT always this lewd?

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Meri Kurisumasu /smtg/ I love you.

>>163661927
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5uT7fas-WE

>>163661927
Shut up idiot, don't make me fuse you with a Slime.

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>>163662016
That's a very cute video thank you for posting it friend.
>>163662034
Don't be rude.

>>163662016
Why does it feel like Atlus doesn't get OC anymore?

Any MT games ever address Jesus? I know there are a bunch of crucifixions.

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>>163665371
idk.
Supposedly SMT is mostly based on Talmudic Judaism because of Metatron and also the Messians.

Metatron being the mediator between man and God instead of Christ.

Also most SMT protagonists despite being referred to as "Messiahs", fail to achieve the role of Christ due to the fact that they do not reincarnate or something.

Though I guess Aleph counts? Also YHVH being more Jewish due to his name and also being based on the interpretation from the first Testament. Though this is just stuff I've read and heard.

Is playing Apocalypse on the apocalypse setting for my first playthrough viable or is it just something meant for ng+?

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>You have two approaches to Demons
>Friendly
>Threatening
>Friendly always gets you laughed at and hit
>Threatening either scares them away or pisses them off

HOW DO I BULLY THESE FUCKING DEMONS INTO BEING MY SLAVES?

>>163667204
Lure them with gifts.

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>when it's christmas and you get [Sick]

does bleach count as Detox Solution???

>>163643396
IV literally had the river styx, and IVA showed Yomotsu Hirasaka

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What's a good level to take on record scratch?

Just beat Satan and my party is all high 80's, low 90's
I cheesed the fight by having demons spam buffs debuffs, and Imposing stance, so he'd be bogged own spending turns removing buffs and smirks.

I doubt it'll work here since I used up the last of my MP with all demons and MC, and record scratch no doubt has more HP and better ways to remove all that shit.

So what build is strongest in IV:A? The pastebin says any build is viable but I want to know what the Focus->Freikugel tier build is

>>163671152
Charge-> Akasha Arts is in pure damage the best MC can do.

It's not like it outclasses the other builds though which was the case with focus->Freddy Krueger.

Magic is a million times better before getting awakened power, and manages to still be more flexible afterwards

Dex can load bullets for any specific boss or use status ailment bullets on mooks.

>>163671414
So how does Dex size up compared to Magic? I did magic in IV and it was solid, and all the changes in apoc make it look really tempting to give it another shot

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what were their fucking problems?

>>163672196
Please respond

>>163672196
>>163674265
It's still solid, just less usable than it's IV counterpart. STR is the way to go now. MA is pretty much the same. LU is best.

>>163672196
Dex + luck is great
Make sure to keep Mudoon for one specific boss though

Metatron is literal perfection.
Prove me wrong son of man.
Protip you can't

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>>163675306
You're wrong.

ONE

hey, nerdlingers
what demikids game should I play? light or dark?

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Merry Christmas guys

Also thanks to that anon for the stream last night. Gonna download the rest of those P3 movies now.

>>163680780
Yeah I was surprised at how well the first P3 movie captured the feel of the game.

Tokyo Revelations was also great because of that dub, wish I had seen it sooner.

>>163678395
NOTHING WRONG WITH ME

>>163681242
The movie had a different director afterwards, so the next ones become a mixed bag.

What did you get for your family and friends /smtg/?

>>163683875
Nothing.

>>163683875
Booze.

>>163683875
A steam game for a buddy and some kitchen equipment for Mother

Ho Ho Hoy

>>163687172
Hee ho ho ho

>>163666806
Apocalypse is a joke difficulty.

>>163665371
In SMT Jesus wouldn't be any different from Hercules because Record Scratch is just the same as any other demon/god

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Kill yer friends and family yet, /smtg/?

>>163665371
isn't every mc sorta stand-in for Jesus? as in, they are the chosen ones of their specific games

>>163690719
Not yet. I'm waiting the for the day they go batshit crazy and punch them really hard.

Is Luck still useful on a Magic build in SMT IV Apocalpyse? It was solid in IV, but I'm seeing conflicting things about it in Apoc.

>>163621732
I think so, but it was sorta like a last resort measure if he was sure that he wouldn't work on it anymore.

That's the last I heard of him too.

>>163691235
Only Aleph from Shin Megami Tensei 2 and the MC of Devil Survivor count as stand in for Jesus. Space Marine is pretty much what happens if Doom Guy was place into the world of SMT.

I doubt Atlus have the courage to make another story where YHVH plays a very long game to create a Messiah.

>>163692337
I don't think luck is useful for a mage. You're better off dumping it all in MA and AG.

>>163697275
Does it not affect smirk rates as well as it did in IV?
Dedder than ded thred.
Stupid christmas, distracting people from posting.

>>163699609
I did a MA build in IV, I barely put point is luck and still smirked pretty often.

I mean, does the game ever imply that it boosts your smirk rate? Has someone else confirmed it? Because I always thought that is pretty much random.

>>163699767
A few people did some looking into it in IV and it certainly SEEMED to make a difference.
I also noticed personally that my smirk rate after hitting a weakness in IV was near constant at endgame on my Mag/Dex/Luck run there.

It could of course all be in my head, but it'd be nice to know for sure if Luck affects Smirk in the same way/if they changed anything about it in Apocalypse.

>>163700312
I had luck as my second highest stat in IV:A, but I can't tell you for sure since I went World of STR.

>>163670798
record scratch has a move that cancels all buffs/debuffs, your charge/concentrate, and doping. Also one where he fully buffs himself and then smirks.

>>163670798
Scratchmaster von Evil probably ought to be taken close to level 99 but no way are all your demons gonna get there.

MP isn't THAT huge an issue because, hey, all those summon stones and great chakras you've been saving up all game? This is what they're for. Also if you have the HP/MP drain skill, it actually drains a lot of MP But you're still gonna be up against it toward the late half of the fight.

Buff and debuff and imposing stance is still a strong play. It's really the only engine in the game other than direct damage. There's nothing complex in SMT mainline and that will still work with Scratch, it'll just resemble a tug of war rather than a total rollover. Keep using those buff/debuffs as he only tends to roll them back in one direction each time.

>>163670798
Who is record scratch?

Is reading "The Count of Monte Cristo" enough to turn me into a demon?

Why are the producers of SMT afraid to admit that YHVH is pretty much pest control, and the only thing keeping humans and demons in line?

I like something as ridiculous as dante being in nocturne will never happen again

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Merry Christmas guys. Also stop being dead

>>163705246
>tfw no Space Marine as secret boss in an EO game

>>163703712
Because that would require them to think about the implications of their universe and try to apply some standard of cosmic order to it rather than hurr durr record scratch evil.

>>163705246
wait a second, no i dont like that

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Does Tetraja null dark/light moves even if the user has the corresponding Pierce?

>>163708960
But actually, yeah, I do like that.

>QDS vol 2 never came
THE WHITE WERE RIGHT

>>163709485
What're you talking about? I thought it was still on track for a release.

Why is Mara-chan so perfect?

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>>163646004
Just gotta wait and see if my dad ordered the sewing machine I wanted for Christmas...

He said a bunch of shit got backordered and delayed up the yazoo so I gotta wait and see what else comes in the following days.

In other news finally got THIS BABY today. bonus jibanyan for your troubles

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It's time. I finally made it to this fucker. Dungeons in these old games are fucking painful, and the backtracking without knowing exactly where things are was pure torture. Thank Hiroko for Estoma.

>>163714268
I wonder if we'll get the SMTIVA art book in English.

>>163714641
Did they release it in Japan yet?
There might be a chance in the future UDON could pick it up too like with SMTIV's. I've seen Devil Survivor's on their catalog along with stuff for Persona 3 and 4, so it's a possibility.

They have some sick art books on there, jesus almighty. I'm tempted to get the ones for dark souls, okami, darkstalkers, monster hunter and professor layton some time in the future

>YHVH in Apocalypse wants you to stay away
>YHVH in II wants you to go to him
>in Apocalypse you beat him with the power of friendship and insults
>in II Aleph and Hiroko beat the shit out of him with pure power and Divine Retribution

So why is YHVH kind of a dick?

Was that Burroughs / Goddess of Tokyo flying around during the SMTII credits?

>>163716932
You ever read the Old Testament?

>>163717103
Yes but that was 10 years ago.

>>163716932
God's always been kind of a dick in stuff like the Bible. He bosses people around and gives them plagues and famine if they upset him. That's what I always got from it at least

>>163716932
Because people with zero knowledge about religion nowadays think a God should be loving figure that will love you no matter what by using a out of context Jesus quote

>>163716932
He was originally a nice guy but some shit happened with the universe and He forgot his love for humans.

>>163717210
>>163717287
Also consider that YHVH implies it's the Jewish version so it doesn't include post-Jesus "nice God".

anyone bought the diamond realm dlc for smtiv apocalypse? im stuck. I got 2 out of 3 messiahs but the third door won't open? I don't know what what I'm missing.

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Is this worth it? I don't wanna start down the slippery slope.

>>163719024
No. What are you gonna do with it? Look at it for a few seconds? Unless you have a shit fetish like hot glueing, there's no point in owning those.

LET ME SLEEP PLEASE

>>163719024
No

>>163719193
>>163719324
Good to know. Buyfag threads almost convinced me that there might be something to this hobby.

>>163719389
I actually own a Elizabeth (P3) figurine and I adore it, it looks great and I feel nice whenever I see it.

But overall collecting figurines is an incredibly boring, overpriced and passive hobby; you should only get one if you genuinely love the character AND the figurine.

>>163719024
It's not Asahi so it's worthless

>>163719389
you could always start making those porn videos where guys cum on their figures

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>>163719793
unrelated but ive got a figure of ciel from tsukihime, I love this rhing. Also got a ryogi.

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>>163720838

sort of related

>>163714268
>the sewing machine I wanted for Christmas...
post feet

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>>163721108

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>>163721108
looks like somebody put cheese on it and threw it in the microwave tβh

>>163721108
I didn't know an inanimate object could convey wishing for the sweet release of death so well.

I haven't been here for a while,

Is Spectral on Netflix supposed to be Strange Journey for normies?
>We can't see them without our Demonicas

>>163721363

i dont know about you but that slinky dog from toy story always looks suicidal to me >.>

>>163721474
>>.>
here's your reply

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>>163720869

>>163721717
thanks anon

>>163721448
Looks more like Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within to me.

>>163721781
Eh, Spirits Within was like, ghosts of aliens attacking the planet's 'spirit'.

This is turning into a military strike team being equipped to fight "ghosts" or something.

I based this more on the military strike team, and the "we can't see them and need scanning/imaging tech to even stand a chance" thing that SJ had going on in the background.

>>163721474
He just seemed sarcastic and ironic to me, but still chill nonetheless.

>>163722547
his eyes man
they portrayed such sorrow

>>163716932
He wants to build a utopia for him and his followers at the expense of everyone else. If SMT was written by Christians then it would be pointed out that humanity has only itself to blame for rejecting god and worshiping false idols like Baal, Moloch, and Inanna

>>163722872
Does He even cares about his followers? YHVH gives me the vibe that he just sets everything up to have people following and empowering him for as long as possible, but that he doesn't give a fuck about anyone but him.

He literally designs his angels to be drones, and he spites people who believe in him just because they were unlucky enough to live in a shitty place at a shitty point in time.

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Huh. It's so rare to see Shin Megami Tensei references.

>>163723374
IS THAT A MOTHERFUCKING SMT REFERENCE?

>>163723374
Looks like DOUMAN, but what manga is that?

>>163723496
NOT EVERYTHING IS AN SMT REFERENCE YOU FUCKING FAGGOT

>>163723671

Nickelodeon volume 1, and, yeah, by Douman. It's a series of one shot stories sometimes with some minor ties between them.

Why does Mot block electricity in P4? He's weak to wind. It's the complete opposite of everything else he's been in.

>>163723774
Oh i read Nickelodeon. I must've missed it somehow

>>163723863
Same reason Vritra is an Ice type in DDS, to fuck with players' expectations.

>>163723263
It depends on the game. In Devil Survivor 1 he does care about humanity while in SMT4A he's pretty much Master Shake on a power high.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBF_a2OGN4w

Strange Journey is gonna make me go crazy, it bothers me if I don't get every square on the map.

>>163724403
Make sure you complete the maps fully, otherwise they'll get deleted on NG+.

>>163724470
Really? At least I'll have an actual reason to do so.

>>163724545
Some can't be fully completed until you get an App on NG+ though. Look up the maps on GameFAQs to make sure you got everything.

>>163724470
I thought they got deleted on NG+ regardless

>>163716932
because nips know nothing of religion.

>>163719024
Do it fag.

>>163719024
I didn't know it was possible to make Fumi look sexier.

That said I didn't think DeSu2 was hot enough property to make figures.

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>>163719024
You're gonna spend that money on some other dumb shit like video games anyway so go ahead. You know you want your own Fumi to shitpost on /smtg/ with.

>>163727183
There's also Io and Airi

Why does Dagda have a question mark on his forehead?

>>163728674
He's the Riddler.

>>163728674
It is a mystery

>>163716932
There is no reason. Atlus can't write a villain to save their lives. He's evil because he's evil.

>>163717708
This faggotry aggravates me but at least it's kind of understandable.

>>163635856
Game, no. Real mythology, yes.

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/smtg/ sings is a flop.

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>>163734380
dead general

Help me guys.
I want to protect Asahi's smile.
What do I do?

>>163734862
Embrace suffering.

>>163734862
Kill your friends

>>163734862
Kill Dagda.

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>physical skills use MP
>physical demons have no MP to use their skills
Why is mainline so bad? It can't even steal things its spin-offs have implemented better.

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>>163736412
Also, speaking of physical skills.
Skill descriptions in the game and on wiki make it really hard to guess which skills would actually do more damage. Like is 1-3 weak attacks better than 1 medium or heavy, or not? Etc.

Is there a list of actual skill attack power numbers?
Which skills would you recommend for a physical build?
Also, I know that physical skills supposedly scale better with Dex than Str. But do gun skills scale better than melee skills?
Should I have some elemental skills on Flynn?

>>163737376
>Should I have some elemental skills on Flynn?
Yes.
This is SMT you want to proc weaknessess for more press turns

>>163737523
I've heard with high Luck crits become a reliable way to get more press turns/smirk.

>>163737523
It's way easier to get crits through physical hits in IV and IVA than in any other SMT game.

You don't need to waste skill slots with useless spells that will only do shit-tier damage.
And if you want an extra turn so your MC can do something, just make another demon skip its own turn.

>>163734862

Just fuse an Adramelech, and try to scout him before he kills Nikkari and Manboob.

Then give Adramelech to Boss since he should be able to take care of Quetzalcoatl.

Ezpz

>>163737693
Ah okay.