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Christmas gifts are utter garbo.

>Is it too late to start playing EVE?
No.

>Can I make enough ISK to PLEX?
Yes of course!


>I just started, what should I do?
Get 250,000 free Skillpoints by using a referral link.

>Now what?
Do the Tutorial then the Career Agent missions; they give you ISK, ships, skillbooks and teach you basics. Talk to players and try to find a corp. The game is only as boring as you are.
No, really. Find a corp.
You don't want to be that guy.

Read the /eog/ pastebin: http://pastebin.com/JGKUEsZy (embed)

Future:
Dec 14th-25th everyone will get a daily christmas gift from ccp! only redeemable for 24 hours per item.

Past:
>Nov 25: Eve Down Under
>Nov 15: Alpha clones, Engineering Complexes, reworked boosters
>Sep 27: Coronation of Catiz I
>Sep 13: Mining barge overhaul, some new frigate models, capital module balance pass
>Sep 12: CSM 11 first summit
>Aug 13: [SoundCloud] WH CSM Townhall 13AUG2016 by OrangeEagle
>Aug 09: Citadel contracts, dmg/rep visuals, clouds performance boost, cargo notifications
>Jul 26: AT prizes announced (blood raider variations)
>Jul 23: Goons move to Delve, SMA closes
>Jul 19: Broski joins then kills QFC
>Jul 18: Billboards submissions open
>Jul 07: AT rule changes: 10 players, no cap-xfer, no CDs, blood raider ships encouraged
>Jun 29: "Shadow of the Serpent" event began, serp capitals introduced
>Jun 28: Citadel trading, overlay vectors, new implants, drugs legal, NSA nerfs, triage/seige/bastion now ECM immune, mass fitting
>Jun 23: RIP SP dailies
>May 30: RIP Dust 514 (long live Project Nova)


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first for beam omen
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Thanks Kevin
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>>163525949
fucking weebs ruin everything
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>>163525949
ur waifu a slut
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>>163526348
So do the gooks and Russians. I don't have any issue with them personally, but they seriously drain all the fun out of any game they get involved in
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>le fun
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>>163500020
In EVE only the trading/market is really and truly great. Industry and sov is good-tier at best, but I still see your point.
Different combat system is both a blessing and a curse, since fighting is ultimately "the end goal" of the game, and some people will dig a different system while other people will prefer this one.

There's only one major issue with this idea, and it's the first word of your suggestion.
Now I'm not bashing the company, I'm just saying that they'd have to develop two games with similar concepts at the same time. That's not gonna end well.

But ~some~other~ company making a game with eve-like trading industry and sov? Sure, why not?
As long as EVE is still alive and kicking, can't see a problem.

As consumers we do like to have more choice, don't we?
Assuming it doesn't come at the expense of both choices becoming shittier due to that, of course.
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What's this I'm hearing about a publisher buying out EvE / CCP?
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>>163527632
CCP was floated years ago

This is just one of the shareholders floating rumours to try and sell his stock as there's potentially huge profit but no buyers
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>tfw been playing on an off again for almost five years
>no idea where to go
>no idea what to do
>joining Pandemic Horde

On a scale of 1 to 10 how dumb is this decision?
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Do you guys feel like there are too many citadels in Eve by now? Space is fucking filled with so many of them, it's crazy. Especially compared to the effort it takes to kill them.
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>>163528556
Citadels in low sec should lose one of their reinforcement timers, and in high sec they should lose two.
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>>163529662
can a citadel be attacked in high-sec without concord intervention?
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>>163530219
I'm not too hot on high sec mechanics but I'm told they can if you wardec the owner.
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>>163527632
nothing is happening
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>struggling to find stuff that's good trades
>decide to fit a small ship to grind out some agent missions whilst I'm waiting on trades
>immediately discover that every single item used in the fitting is a good item to station trade
yay
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>>163531364
Take 20 minutes and go through every single item in the station you want to trade in. Add anything that sells in good volume to your quickbar
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I want to do 4/10 ded sites, but all I can find are 3/10 even in 0.5 sec space. should I just go to null and do combat sites instead? if so, which area is the least populated?
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>>163528369
Don't think you get a lot of guidance in PH.
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>>163528369
8.8
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>>163532979
>highsec

you're looking for the best and rarest sites in noob space. there's a shitload of people also looking for them, you aren't going to find them easily
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>>163532979
Just join a null group and run sites in their space.
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>>163532979
No one runs sites in high sec, it's too crowded
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R E D S W A R M
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D
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>no one runs sites
>crowded
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>tfw you listen to the soundtrack while stargazing and wish you could be out there

Hold me ;~;
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>>163533262
>>163533098
>>163533202
null it is, then. I don't want to leave my small tax-free corp, what's the bestthing to fly solo for belt ratting and combat sites just below havens? I'm going to assume VNI?
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>>163533376
>winter time
>keep thinking how much colder space is

no thx
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>>163533359
It's a joke, like "no one bothers driving in new york, too much traffic"
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>>163533506
Why would you belt rat, and why would you not just run havens?

And if you fly solo in null, you will die far more often than if you just join a group and sponge off of them for a while.
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>>163533563
You don't want to be wrapped in the cold bosom of endless space?
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>>163533563
>tfw they release plaid skin for comfy pod wandering
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>>163533668
because I don't know how to haven and I don't want to leave my corp.
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>>163533979
drop drones
orbit 30km
AB on

grats you can now haven
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>>163533703
>>163533732

no im freezing atm
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I have two fucking noobship skins now, and neither are my race. Has everyone else had this awful shit inflicted on them or am I alone in my doublesuffering?
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>>163533979
Then why don't you and your corp go ninja some WH sites?
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>>163534589
because everyone else is doing their own thing and I'm really only looking for a way to make some side cash while between incursions.
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>>163534587
Sell them and buy the one you want?

>>163534758
You run highsec incursions, you don't need to fucking ninja rat.

Just take a drake into a c2 or something if you're bored between your risk free isk firehose drenchings..
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>>163534836
>you don't need to ninja rat
you do when queue times are 3-5 hours and you only have 3 hours of free time a day.
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>>163535115
You're supposed to join incursion fleets after downtime, as the fleet is reforming.

If you miss that, forget about it and go run missions or some shit.
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>>163535261
down time happens about an hour into my 12 hour shift.
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I don't play this game and don't plan to but here's a couple EVE ONLINE codes from the E3 2016 bundle.

EVEOnline 30-day Trial Access Code
3U9H8-MEBGL-Q7QTT-AFEVS-SBDPT-EJCRZ-MA009

EVEOnline 4 Ship Skins
VCRDU42V8EZNY6FRKD7LLKMF7
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>500mn microwarpdrive II
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>>163535984
>alreayd been used

fug
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>>163534572
We have 40°C here. Im jelly.
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>Avoiding Uedama turns Jita - Dodixie from a 15 jump trip to a 40 jump trip
CCPls
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>>163536710
>being a shitter
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>>163536710
Why do you think its such a death trap? Its basically the only option to get between them, I think Jita >> Amarr is the same way if you try to avoid Niarja.
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>>163536780
Can't fly a DST yet so there's not really anything I can do about 10 gankers camping a highsec gate.
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>>163536893
Don't fly any super expensive cargo through Uedama, its not hard.
Or if you do, fly it through there in something that they won't expect it to be in. I fly low volume expensive stuff in a Tengu because who the fuck is going to cargo scan a Tengu?
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>>163537031
https://zkillboard.com/kill/58501362/
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>>163537492
if he fit covert cloak and the subsystem he would have been fine.
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>>163537492
>https://zkillboard.com/kill/58501362/
Why the fuck have so many people been hauling libraries of BPOs around recently?
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>who the fuck is going to cargo scan a Tengu
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What are the best guides out there to learn how to really do exploration like a non-retard including how to scan stuff really quickly and properly?

Is there any great video on youtube? I want to learn from the best.
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Okay /eog/ here's a thought to chew on.

Minmatar Battleships are bad, compared to the other races. Discuss.
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>>163537876
I will fly them regardless. How much pain awaits for me?
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>>163537876
Bad for what? Pvp? Typhoon is pretty much the only unironical t1 Bs now.
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>>163537780
just watch the first video that comes up
get the gist of it

and then practice in game.

it's really easy to master once you figure out to keep the camera locked in your target anomaly in the sonar map
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How do i cash out concord LP without getting scammed?
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>space
>sonar
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>>163537876
Isn't RHML Phoon supposed to actually be decent or something?
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>>163538173
>makes sonar sound
>not sonar
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>>163538172
find the best is/LP item based on buy orders and grab as many as you can, then sell them in Jita for ~90% of the cheapest sell order.
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>>163537876
Minmatar is cursed by only having a few good looking ships.

Maelstrom, Hurricane, Bifrost, Tornado and above all the Hel come to mind.

Meanwhile if you were to fly Amarr you'd be hard pressed to even find any ugly ships at all, they have by far the best designs.
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>>163538172
Join the Concord LP channel and mailing list.

Never sell to Quickswipe Collier, although just not dealing with Quickswipe in general is a good way to play EvE
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>>163538193
RHML is for fleet phoon. You don't fit them to normal phoon because you gonna spend more time reloading than shooting. Cruises or torps.
or RLML in WRs

>>163538252
>being retarded
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>>163537982
PVE; Though with PVP the Maelstrom does come to mind with its heavy alpha.

>>163538315
>Amarr
>Not ugly
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>>163538343
>no argument
>dude you're retarded xD

i win, goingto bed now wont read any replies you post gg noscoped 460
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>>163538172
Why not use https://www.fuzzwork.co.uk/lpstore/sell/10000002/1000125

However doublecheck with eve central, some prices don't seem right.
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>>163538305
is this viable on an alpha account? im trying to reactivate my only account via plex
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How do you get from low sec into Jita? It seems every gate is camped or maybe I'm just not looking hard enough.
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Reminder that the "Vindicator" is the best looking ship in all of Eve Online.
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>>163538541
if you have a ton of concord LP you're sitting on then sure. you're going to need a lot of capital to buy the shit from the LP store first though.

>>163538469
>linking sell order info instead of buy order
the reason you want to check buy orders instead of sell orders is to see what's in demand and will get scooped up by the real jews.

P.S. make sure to cross check whatever you want to sell on evepraisal. always try to sell things that have both a high amount of buy and sell orders.
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>>163538858
Specific implants like these don't really seem like something people would bother putting up buy orders for though, desu.

But you will get someone with enough money willing to buy these specialized implants. He probably wants it right there and then, though, not wait 1 week for some clown to come along and sell it to his buy order.
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>>163538954
I got 4,009,975 LP, i just wanna cash out ASAP for a plex. I don't wanna sit and watch it trickle in.

Wat do?
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>>163539063
>>163538954
sell closer to or at buy order then, just make sure that after tax and capital you're making some inkling of profit.

I sold 140 implants a week ago at buy order prices, cost me 350 mil in capital and I wound up getting 600 mil back. I could have made an additional 200 mil if I just undercut by a little bit, but I was impatient and didn't want to risk my plex lapsing.
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>was still sitting on my "F R E E" aurum and got 300 bonus aurum, total of 1050
>bought phoenix lai-dai skin for 800 aurum
>just sold it on market for ~760m

Not bad. I almost bought 1 skill extractor for 1000 aurum just because I knew those would actually sell. Meanwhile with skins there's a few on the market at most at any time and they sell very slowly. Got a bit lucky there I guess, much better aurum/isk ratio than the extractor for sure.
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So how bad is Amarr in terms of bots compared to Jita? Thinking of moving. Was considering Dodixie but it seems Amarr gets about twice the traffic.
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>>163541534
do you like grey and blue or brown and gold?
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>>163541534
I moved to Amarr to get a way from the Jita bots and its nowhere near as bad.

People here seem more willing to crash markets with no survivors though.
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>>163542062
>tfw crashing markets in jita out of spite
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>>163542470
you're a big jew...
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>>163542062
>>163542470
I wish amazon would crash the PLEX market again.
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>>163539468
When did we get 750 free aurum? I missed out on that.
I only got the 1000 we got for 2011 "eve is real".
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Can I get this if I run my account through the standalone launcher instead of Steam?
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Someone has spent all day in a buy order war with me despite not one fucking unit of the item being sold to either of us
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>>163542703
what the fuck is premium edition
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>>163542783
Hek?
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>>163542783
>thats a bot and you've wasted your entire day
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Anyone know why I can find sisters of eve L4 agents in the agents finder?

Do I need to do lower lv missions first?
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>>163542703
You should ask eve online support mang.
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>>163542703
protip: buy it on kunguin or your key site of choice

I've done that for two accounts, it's less than 20 bucks for the premium pack and it's well worth it, doesn't bind you to Steam either.

>>163542794

750 Aurum
Core Starter Pack (including 30 days of game time)
Colonist Content Pack (does not include additional Aurum)
Industrialist Content Pack (does not include additional Aurum)
Explorer Content Pack (does not include additional Aurum)
Skirmisher Content Pack (does not include additional Aurum)
Abaddon Tash-Murkon Battleship skin
Hyperion Innerzone Shipping Battleship skin
Maelstrom Nefantar Battleship skin
Rokh Wiyrkomi Edition Battleship skin
1 PLEX (30 additional days of game time)
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>>163537876
kys
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>>163526348
The artist is literally Chinese.
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>>163543103
oh nice
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>lol mom i sad kys because i cant type and im a reddit xd
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>>163543103
>$20 for 60 days game time and a bunch of junk ships
I assume this is a one per account thing?
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>>163543169
So they are a weeb for being Chinese.
And you're a weeb for knowing they are Chinese.

Your point, weeb?
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>>163543359
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>>163542703
Pretty sure you can't use the Steam version with an existing account.
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>>163543345
Yes, you can only use it on accounts that haven't been omega before, so new/alpha only. Definitely a good deal. The stuff you get from those extra packs can also be sold, plus the skins, for quite some millions on top.

GMG also has it for 19.99.

A bit less shady than other sites, also pretty cheap.
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>Given 300 to spend on skins
>Everything not shit is +400
Thanks for the "gift" CCP.
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Alright trying this one last time before I suck it up and spend my RL sheckles

TRADING 1 PLEX for Dark Souls 1 on steam.

You have to give the game first on steam.
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>>163537780
http://wiki.whitestagexitbag.org/doku.php/public/guides/exploration#folded_10
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>>163544172
>thinking in the short term

eventually you may get additional aur bux to add to the 300
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>>163542932
>>163542915
Nah it's Rens, nobody's bothering to bot here
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>>163544172
Thats the point, now people has to buy some AUR to buy a decent skin. People usually falls for it.
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>>163544208
thanks
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>>163544358
If it doesn't explain scanning here's the basics

>launch a spread, pick a signal in the menu and click on it to hide the others
>pinpoint
>move over a point (do it from a top down view and then adjust the height and horizontal position after), scale so it's entirely covered

Then you just keep moving to where the point goes and zooming in
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>>163544538
Yeah I got that much down, I just figured there will probably be a lot more to doing it efficiently (especially once I do this in null or wormholes?) than just using the two preset probe layouts
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>>163544538
you probably should add that you can use CTRL and ALT to modify the spread and range, making shit faster
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>>163544606
preset pinpoint is all you need.
If you're manually setting probes around you're a retard
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>>163544179
Why don't you just buy it on g2a?
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>>163544669
I've literally never got an improvement by manually tweaking
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>>163544850
I heard some people use a cube probe layout
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>>163544681
So if I buy it for 5.99 on g2a, it gives me a steam code? shieeet steam christmas sale almost scammed me!

Thanks baby
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>>163546071
Yeah, that's how it works.

Should have bought it for you while you didn't know and get my plex, fml.
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>>163546191
rekt
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What a fucking risk averse fag
https://zkillboard.com/kill/58490123/
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>>163546306
what am I looking at here?
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>>163546191
I'm looking to see if there is any other game I would trade for a plex on g2a.

Dark Souls II is only 7.50$ or so.

Heard thats bad though
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>>163546880
Looks like one of those guys who sits on a lowsec gate all day with smartbombs running.
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>>163547132
that sounds incredibly silly.
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>>163547686
You can get a lot of kills if you sit on a gate back to high sec from factional warfare space.
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>>163547074
DaS2 is mechanically the best dark souls game, but the level design is the worst and the soul memory shit makes PvP a chore. it's worth picking up for cheap, especially if it includes the DLCs, which are much better than the base game.
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>>163547686
Check the rest of his killboard, it's all pods, shuttles and untanked frigates.

Got to keep the killboard green!
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Anyone here making mad ISK with Project Discovery?
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>>163548068
Define mad isk?
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>>163548192
Easy 50k every minute or so

: ^)
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>>163548257
Whoah, I can kill a 1m bounty battleship in less time than that.
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>>163548432
Get baited
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>>163547906
Ah thanks.
Yeah the bundle is 12$ so forget that. I'll hold off until another time for DSII.
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>>163548686
$12 for DaSII and all DLC is a decent deal.
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>>163549094
Nobody is going to trade it and risk being scammed for a plex though.

Plex is selling on eve store for like 14$, would personally pay 2 more dollars to feel secure.
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>>163549396
G2A has a purchase protection thing that only costs a dollar.
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>>163549696

NOT EVE RELATED

I think you're slightly confused by what I meant, you might not have seen the previous posts.

I was trading 1 plex in eve, for a steam code of my game of choice.

So the buyer protection on G2A would not apply to that transaction.


(we're shitting up this EVE thread though so best to stop talking about it now)
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>shitting up
>EVE thread
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>>163550304
True
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>>163550159
yeah, I know what you meant, I'm just saying you could buy DaSII directly and save yourself a dollar and the hassle of trading in-game items for non in-game items (which is a violation of the EULA).
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>>163550550
> (which is a violation of the EULA).
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>>163550914
CONCORD is literally invincible.
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>be me playing Eve
>try to find good fights
>don't
erry day
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>>163551486
>playing eve for anything other than the shitty market
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>>163551486
go to period basin and call the russiens cyka blyat.
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>>163551436
Hold my beer
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>>163551486
>being you
Woah...
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>>163551736
>>>>>reddit
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>>163551809
>>/r/reddit
fixed that for you.
edit: thanks for the gold, stranger!
edit 2: my highest voted post is about me fucking a pickle jar, AWKWARD
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where's my apocalypse skin ccp
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>>163552390
1 more hour and all your dreams and more will come true.

if your dreams involve lore items
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>>163553352
It's going to be a glacial drift venture skin
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>>163542470
>mfw someone crashes the Jita market on Ventures 2 days ago
>240k
>buy 50
>sell yesterday for 315k with no competitors

What the fuck even happened there, was that you?
I was sure some hardcore jewing was going on, but for the life of me I can't work out why.
All of the venture prices in smaller trade hubs have now fallen by 40%ish instead of being 30% above Jita like before.


I am a relatively well educated Jew, and I can't see why anyone would throw that money out the window, especially as they were the only one selling at that price and in massive volume.
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>>163553871
If I mine it myself then it's free!
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>paying for minerals
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>>163554042
These are the same sell orders though.
Stacmon has gone from 380k lowest sell to 280k.
I don't understand how rookie ships could ever vary so wildly unless most of these "traders" are just smashing their faces on the keyboard.
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>>163554271
that's exactly what they're doing m8.
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>>163554271
Tbh sometimes I drastically undercut T1 stuff for the sake of it
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>>163553845
Good guess
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>>163554474
That reasures my a little, I was worried that they are operating on another level to my current understanding of economics. Where there is profit in losing money by the bucketload.

>>163554652
You undercut to 20% below mineral value? And then proceed to shift hundreds?
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>>163554864
Mineral value doesn't matter in Ventures, new players can supply enough at cheap prices to crash the market every few weeks.

t. marketjew
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>>163554864
Well last week I moved 14 mil units of tritanium and undercut someone by 20% yeah
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>>163555341
That's really not a lot of trit.
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>>163555572
Nah but it's more of an example of what I've done recently, point is that sometimes people just undercut for no good reason.
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>>163531604
protip right here. also avoid jita starting off and try dodixie, rens, or amarr instead
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>>163555341
That is an undercut with some profit left, I do that for the lels, I'm sure others will as well. This was just retarded.

>>163555195
New players dumping hundreds in Jita? And who would bother buying them up to dumpster their wallets anyways?
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>>163556415
Region buys near new player systems.

Ventures are handed out for free to new players.

Most can be bought for 150k, though it takes a few weeks to build up and transport the volume to crash the market.
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>rens
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dogposter you might as well kill yourself
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any nerds invested in eveproguides?
fuckin $30 dollarydoos - Are they really that good?
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just got killed by another player for the first time ever

what a fucker
>>
>Venture skin
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>>163557961
welcome to dark souls in space.
prepare to die. A lot
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>>163558025
AND a venture.
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It isn't even random this time, it's just a venture and a venture skin.
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>not prospect
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>tfw going to have 45 venture skins to sell
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I didn't even start playing until halfway through the christmas gift period and yet a venture's still no use to me
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>>163557115
I have hawked the new player systems for a while and never seen a succesful buy campaign at under 250k.
Either way, more to learn I guess.

Are there any pure trading corps so as people can work together and not step on each other's toes? I mean, I want to take money from the plebs, not other traders.
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>>163558848
Did you at least get your booster?
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>>163559252
Yeah, that was my first one
>>
it is a straight up dickpunch to try to start a new corp in EVE without resorting to reddit. I don't want goddamn redditors in my corp, is that so much to ask?
>>
>>163559520
Join Pupper.
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>>163559639
what's pupper?
>>
>>163559639
I'm trying to not alienate a pretty nice alliance with benefits, but I'm about this close to just giving up and joining some random ass WH corp.

s'what I get for being a CAStabout.
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>>163559340
That's not to say that a venture won't never be useful. That's what markets are for, you can toss things that someone else would want that you have no use for, in exchange for money.

>>163559520
There's going to be redditors everywhere you go. I just need to figure if there is a simple WYSIWYG editor for PHP/Ruby to make even a simple prototype of a system I used almost 6 years ago.
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>>163559520
>join corp that doesnt have anything pointing to reddit
>couple of hours later the chat has some posts saying "I will post this on reddit for karma" while other faggots are spewing tumblr memes in ts
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>>163559746
Join Pupper.

>>163559692
Best corp.
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>>163559789
>php/ruby
>wysiwyg editor
pick one
will trade webdev work for isk

>>163559808
fucking this shit right here.
>>
>>163559884
>Best corp.
can you join if you're new
>>
Reminder that every corp is a scam and the only reason you should be in one is that you own it to scam others.
>>
>>163559928
Sure.
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>>163559208
Its a lot of luck, and trying to figure out market conditions. Looks like I lucked out though with this Christmas gift, I didn't have to do anything for the market to collapse.
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>>163560114
t. one-man level 4 mission highsec corp
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>>163560114
people like you are the reason I'm having recruiting problems.
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>>163559909
>webdev for isk
I do have an understanding of basic coding (A little C++ in my time) and I have an idea of what is needed, I'm just not sure how to connect the dots.

If it gets made, there's mad profit in it.
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>>163560586
ign Byron DuMont, convo
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soon
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So I just started playing the game, any corp that's suggested to join? I'm mostly just flying around 0.7 sec and mining
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>>163561016
What are you going to train next?
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Don't Join Oruze
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G-g-guys is p-pupper and the rest in that alliance really that good? Not like I want to join or anything, b-baka!
>>
>>163562861
as a rule: anything that's mentioned in a /vg/ thread explicitly and repeatedly is a meme.

I mean seriously, read pupper's corp desc.
>>
What server are you all on?
>>
Is Zip Slings the greatest human being alive?
>>
>>163563360
Chinese one duh
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>>163563360
Theres only 1 server aside from the test servers.
>>
if an astrahaus being unanchored says "5d" on the reinforcement, is that when it's scoopable? or is that just when it's out of vuln timer?
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>>163563592
Vuln timer. The unanchor timer is invisible on purpose.

Source: I had the exact same thoughts as you.
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>>163563360
Fairy
>>
>>163563460
So if I make a guild anywhere in space my friends can join it?
>>
>>163564331
That's correct; You need a specific skill trained for it though, and can only have a certain amount of people in your corp before you hit the limit.
>>
>>163564560
What's a corp
>>
>>163563663
do you know where I can find the unanchor timer?
>>
>>163564907
Corporations are EvE's equivalent of a guild or clan
>>
>>163564947
>The unanchor timer is invisible on purpose.

I don't even think the owner can see it. They just have to know when it'll turn back into a burger.
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>>163565160
guess I know what I'm doing later.
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>>163565386
Watching a citadel undock for a week?

>CAPCHA: Click the sign, STOP 150M
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>>163565506
the captcha is so good sometimes
>>
>>163565506
I know the day it's supposed to come out, but not the exact time.
>>
What's the best t1 frigate a new character can reliably fly with less than a week of training and do low level pvp for shits and giggles?
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>>163567841
K E S T R E L
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>>163567841
If you want to be a complete and utter dickhole, Maulus
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>all of my low cost low collateral courier contracts getting welped
>literally 100% of them

Well, thanks for the free isk guys but I wanted to do some trading sometime?
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>>163567841
>best

there is no best. there is a worst though: rifter

>shits and giggles

fly with some m8s, if you go solo you'll have a shitty time
>>
>Amarr
>>
How do I see how many SP I have?
>>
>>163572709
Go to your neocom, click your face. Click skills. It'll be near the top.
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>>163573076
thanks m8
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Is this a fucking joke
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Which corp has less cancer to join as an alpha?
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>>163574451
I think it might be, actually.
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>>163574468
Dreddit
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>>163574468
>less cancer
Eve is cancer.
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>mfw spending hours today insurance frauding my ships
>mfw my alliance is now working with TEST
>mfw I am now a victim of war

Shit sucks, hold me senpai.
I just want to go home, to highsec, to see the asteroid fields full of happy ventures.
>>
>>163556262

Mission hub systems too.
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>>163535990

>Gist c-type microwarpdrive
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>>163575641
>Insurance fraud
What is that, is it profitable and how do I do it?
>>
>>163576087
Get a ship with a lower replacement value than the max insurance payout.
Get yourself blown the fuck up.
Collect insurance.
Repeat.
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>>163576087
>is it profitable
Unlikely, but it can save you money of you never expect to be able to sell it.

You insure your ships and then self destruct them to collect the insurance.
>>
>artillery vagabond
>>
>oneiros
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rate my venture.
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>>163577451
can you fit an a-type nos or neut on the empty high?
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>>163577451
drop one of the shield extenders for an a-type ab or mwd, also use Thukker shield extenders.
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Festival Venture is cute! CUTE!
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Everyone told me to use a Vexor, so I are the Brave Newbies build and... I sucks? I orbit something at 30 with my afterburner on and no NPCs can catch up, and when they do they just attack and kill my drones.

Yes I'm warping 70km out of the anomily and setting free my drones first.

What the fuck? Was easier in a Talwar with a shit fit.
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>>163579703

Post lewds.
>>
Is there any way to check if a systems asteroid belts have been depleted without warping to each individual one?
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>>163580157
Venture is a pure, classy girl.
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>>163579969
i told you not to fall for the meme

you didnt listen
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>>163579969
>tfw picked the anime girl faction by mistake
The stars demanded it
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>>163581353

There's no mistake. Caldari > rest, just look where the #1 market hub is located.
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Stratios a good idea for fucking around with WH pvp? I have the skills and the cash but never solo'd and I want to try. Any fit ideas? Help a brother out.
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>>163582129

Google, you lazy fuck. Do you use it?
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>>163582228
Fuck you, I came here for a discussion. Maybe when you finally learn how to play the game and have something insightful to say we can chat.
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>>163579969
Space Fash is best
>>
What's the overall best fast tackle interceptor? Preferably for Amarr or Minmatar.
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>>163583412
molly dick shin
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>>163583541
I'm using Stiletto and that has been the obvious alternative. But I have shit rocket skills so I'm hesitant to switch.
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>>163525949
rip in piece all-out
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>>163584118
truly dark times
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>>163584118
>>163584236
fuck off faggot keep your dick sucking in game
>>
>>163584340
you can't bury the truth reyni
>>
thread is dead just like all-out
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>discord being the source of drama
color me surprised
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>plowed through numerous anoms
>1 escalation, 20 jumps away
>30min later with auto pilot
>only destroyer and smaller ship can enter
>destroyer is 25 jumps away
>>
>Fell for the exploration meme
>Fell for the ratting in a droneboat meme
>Fell for the mining meme

This game is such a slugging bore. I always make more mining than I do anything else and that shit is boring but at least I can watch Netflix while I do it.
>>
>droneboat meme

What? AFK Isktar isn't terrible income.
>>
>>163587745
just stop
>>
>>163587745
By the time you have it skilled up enough to make good isk there are other better options.

Now I know why everyone begs for isk because earning it legit will make you quit the game quick.
>>
>>163587745
the isktar is terrible income if you can fly a carrier, or run incursions.

In spite of this i still tell my new bros to train into it as it sets them up for using a gila later on.
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>>163587986
is it heala or geela
>>
>>163588018
gila as in gila monster
>>
>>163587406
I've already left it for Path of Exile. They market Eve as this do nothing fly awesome ships MMO but it's just a lazy sandbox for people who want to feel like they belong which is why everyone not in a Corp just quits.
There are way better options out there that aren't 100 fucking years old and don't charge 15 bucks a month to play the real game.
>>
>>163588018
gil-a
>>
>>163588018
it's keel-ah
>>
I can't read this map at all
If I want to bully miners in my trash ship I take it I'm supposed to go somewhere where the police don't get me? But why would miners go there instead of the safe system. Is there even any way to tell if there are any players if I go into a system? I can't even read this fucking map, goddamn.
>>
>>163588340
use dotlan m8
>>
>>163588449
I wanted something that would be less confusing, not throws even more unreadable information on the screen, but I guess that's something too, thanks.
>>
>>163587986
You run a carrier on one account and then have an afk ishtar on the other account. Or if you just want to watch movies or something you have the akf ishtar running.

You don't have to put up with incursion autism, and you don't have to wait on the waitlist, or for a focus to spawn.
>>
>>163588894
you don't have to use the wait list when you know all the community leadership m8
>>
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>>163588989
>>
I found a man, I shot his ship, it said I got a bounty now. How do I check what the bounty on me is and how much trouble am I in?
>>
>>163589785
make a new character you fucked up big time
>>
>>163574451
Look at it that way, its day .... 11? And its the THIRD gift thats can be actually remotely useful for something.
>>
>>163574451
they want to remind you that the core gameplay of eve is mining
>>
>>163589785
How do you know it was a man?
>>
Anyone have a rorqual training plan for a fresh character?
>>
When does the game get fun?
If I become Omega would it be lame of me to focus on Minmatar ships and skills? In faction Warfare does each race use thier own ships?
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>>163592051
Minmatar have great ships, omegas can use all ships so you're not restricted to that anymore, also you have ships that require crosstraining.

Faction specific is only a thing for alphas.
>>
What's the coolest weapon system and why is it tach beams?
>>
>>163590881
shield tank
magic 14
drone mining
boosting skills
rorqual skills
>>
>>163592550
what is magic 14?
>>
>>163593341
http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/The_Magic_14

Lazy fuck, took like 2 seconds to google.
>>
faith 16 > magic 14
>>
What's the most fun one can have in high sec?
>>
>>163579969
kill the small ones first, the cruisers and above can't hit your drones I don't think, not even heavies if you could fly them.
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>>163595312
watching a movie while afk mining.
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Remember when EVE was good? Me neither.
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>>163584236
woah how do I become part of this internet drama?
>>
If you want to make nice isk semi afk as a miner on 1 account rorqual is the way to go?
>>
>>163587986
What kinda ticks am I gonna get with a Gila? running a VNI right now.

I was gonna go straight for a mach instead of a gila, or maybe a rattlesnake, but that one sounds too lazy for me.
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>>163595528
get the mach
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>>163595528
the gila isn't for ratting, it's the pvp doctrine we use.
>>
>>163595580
yeah, it does sound more fun than the rattlesleep, and usable in anything other than ratting too. thanks
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>security connection skillbook

fucking 20mil
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>>163596291
>gas huffing skillbook
>any trading skillbooks above the most basic ones
>>
>>163585907
This is why other threads have had aggressive thread wars over not having discord in the OP
>>
>want to train all alpha skills before going omega
>if I buy skillbooks I can't afford PLEX
Fug. Can I still run L4 distribution as alpha?
Last time I did that it was a pretty decent ~2m isk/hr, but as alpha I suppose that'd go down to ~1m.
Maybe I could earn moneys for skillbooks this way...
>>
>>163597005
that is such a shitty source of income, even mining is better
>>
>>163597005
just go do explore for some dank 100m/h
>>
>exploration
>quantifiable isk/hr
>>
>>163597167
Aren't alphas limited to venture mining?
Is this really more isk/hr than l4 distribution?

>>163597185
Got no skills for it yet, besides it's 2hard4me
>>
>>163597415
Yes, I did mean venture mining. Just do exploration and 1-3/10 ded sites, even in high sec.

WH exploration pays a lot more but is riskier.
>>
If you subscribed to the game recently with the referral, send me a mail so I can pay you damn it.

Unclaimed dummy-heads: 2

I don't like having to search you out in /eog/
>>163449093
>>
>>163597531
Don't bother for them then.
Sell the plex for yourself, and move on.
>>
Can I put PI resources back on the planet so I can stick them in a processor to make shit?
>>
>>163597575
yes
you can make a planet specialized in processing shits too if theres nothing good to harvest from there
>>
>>163598000
Do I send stuff down to the command center? Through the Customs Office?
>>
>>163597516
>venture mining
I could try that.
What are the odds of me being blown up to bits before my grid loads on trade hub undock?
Don't wanna lose my pod.

>ded sites
Won't these hurt my pirate standings?
Or are rogue drone ded sites not at all rare?
Also doesn't seem like much isk, <1m for rogue 3/10 not taking ammo into account.
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>>163598119
The command center is irrelevant. You can use a customs office to sent stuff to a launchpad, then route the materials to factories and back to the launchpad for extraction.
>>
>>163598775
the fuck do you need pirate standings for?
>>
>go explore in wh for first time in m cheap Probe
>Instantly killed and podded because I just don't give a fuck.

People say mining is boring but camping a relic site in WH space for hours to kill a probe isn't? I mean, it's your game do what you want, just seems kinda retarded.
>>
>>163598817
is PI tax related to the tax of the corp that you're in?
>>
>>163599338
There are people who do this but it doesn't happen very often.
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>>163599456
Tax depends on the customs office, and it is set by the owner.
>>
Are we getting the special gift today?
>>
>>163599785
we got a venture and a skin
>>
>>163598887
I don't want to limit my future options due to recklessness and no foresight.
Don't need them right now, but in 10-15 years? Who knows.
>>
>>163600029
then youll be limiting your present options
>>
>>163600093
Just like in real life.
When did it all go so wrong
>>
how do i be a real trap nigga in this game
>>
>>163600328
tell everyone thats what you are
>>
im a real trap nigga
>>
>>163599785
>>163599953


gifts are given at 7:00pm eastern, and today is christmas eve, so its not the special gift, but it may be nicer than previous
>>
>What are the odds of me being blown up to bits before my grid loads on trade hub undock?
Pls respond. It's a clean install with shit internet and DOD, should take 5-20 minutes for the grid to load.
I plan on undocking next month. How fucked am I?
>>
>>163600548
we already got the christmas eve gift
>>
>>163600651
No we didnt. We get it at 7:00 pm eastern just like every other gift.
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>>163600575
you have 30 seconds of invincibility on undock provided you don't do any actions other than stopping the ship or engaging a module
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>>163600548
Probably more random skins.
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>>163600672
7pm eastern is 12 am server time

guess what happens when the time hits 12 am
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>>163600575
depends what you're in, I did it last night in a ibis with a set of +5 implants and a trasher killed me before my screen loaded.
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFSnSuV9jz8
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>>163600810
not eve related


b*tch
>>
>>163600695
This isn't true.
>>
>>163600901
Ok, I guess you can get smartbombed.
>>
>>163600842
newfag
>>
Should I train into t2 frigs or go into cruisers and BCs? Newly omega
>>
>>163600963
shut the fuck up you beta bitch cuck
>>
>>163600994
Depends on what you want to do.
>>
>being stupid enough to undock your shit from a trade hub
>not paying some stupid bitch to bring it to you
>>
>>163600695
30 seconds it not nearly enough for the client to download hundreds of megabytes of ship models and other shit that will inevitably be present on grid in a trade hub.
I guess I could try right after downtime since less shit will be present, but it still seems super risky.

>>163600745
That's exactly my situation. Set of +5s, no jump clones, no tanky ships, RIP.
Should I file a stuck petition?
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>>163601029
I dunno, maybe DED sites and the odd bit of PVP here and there
>>
>>163600941
I literally got insta locked by a trasher before my screen loaded, I was alt tabbed though and doing stuff on a second screen, do you think eve picks this up as an action?
>>
>>163601074
Jesus man, what kinda computer do you have? It loads well enough on a shitty 2008 laptop with a 9400m for me.
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>>163600727
You could be right, but I am skeptical.
>>
>>163601140
I'm no veteran, but if you want to do PvP I'd start with good frigs cause you're not losing a lot of money with each.

You'll be able to do 4/10 ded sites in a decent t1 cruiser I think, but don't take my word on it, I've only been doing 3/10's in a destroyer.
>>
>>163600714
I'm thinking maybe a nice cybernetic implant since its not technically permanent because if you die with it on you lose it.

Or maybe a capsule skin
>>
>>163601238
How do you find ded sites?
>>
>>163601432
Exploration sites that show up as "combat sites".

Some are DED sites, some are unrated.

If you're in a t1 cruiser, you want to take 4/10 DED sites at most, cause it goes like this:

DED 1/10: frig rats only
DED 2/10: frigs and destroyers
DED 3/10: frigs, destroyers, cruisers
DED 4/10: adds battlecruisers
and so on
>>
>>163601630
You probe them first then switch ship?
>>
>>163601175
It's not the loading speed, it's the download speed due to download-on-demand.

I have a fresh EVE install, meaning when I undock, my screen will remain black until some % of models/textures/whatever that's needed to render the scene immediately out the hub is downloaded, since I'm missing those files (haven't seen those ships yet, so they never downloaded - there never was a demand).

And after a certain % it's still gonna be at, like, 2 fps while it downloads/unpacks/installs remaining models/textures/whatever, to the point I won't be able to click anything to warp to an insta.

I died once this way, and I assume there's more suicide gankers nowadays with alphas about.


Took 15 minutes of black screen for the character select and station interior to download, if that's of any indication.
>>
>>163601709
That is how I've been doing it, yes.
Though, the closer you are to a trade hub, the more competition there will be. Go straight for the final wave and the faction rat.
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>>163601765
Maybe you should set "download everything" on the launcher and let it download then.
>>
>>163601772
Can they spawn on their own or are they always an escalation of an anomaly?
>>
Just spent $100 on 6 plex for 10 skill injectors to finish my 3 month Thanatos skill queue.

Somebody help me
>>
>>163601834
Oh, that's a thing.
Thanks.
>>
>>163602036
buy some more and step up to a nyx
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>>163601968
I think they don't show up as escalations, but the loot might be on the same vein as escalation sites. Though in my experience you get a guaranteed 2-4 faction modules from the faction rat in DED sites.

Don't take my word on it though, just google DED sites.

>captcha: selling easy
>>
>le "EVE Online is difficult and has a massive learning curve, if you don't like it your just not smart enough to understand!"
Is it just me, or are 99% of comments like that from the absolute worst type of egotistical players, who need to hold the game up for some reason over others? Like holy shit guys, give it a rest.

The learning curve is a fucking meme that would vanish if CCP put in actual tutorials for stuff, but they're too lazy to and thus rely on outside sources made by the playerbase. No, I don't include the one that starts the game as a tutorial, that shit is barely functional and does nothing more than teach you how to move and fight. Basic mechanics like probing aren't explained at all even in Agent missions.

Like, shit m8s, the EVE is difficult meme always triggers the fuck outta me.
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>>163602461
subscribed
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>>163602461
hmmm.. this really made me sub
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Hi

I've had a sub running on the game for about a year now and I just sit in Jita training skills forever.

I'm at a complete loss in terms of direction.

Normally I can break games down into goals, but honestly I have no real clue what most of the game even is, so I can't really determine what my goals should be or what I should do outside of just keep getting skill points.

Is there a good way to... idk... I have no idea if I even want to play EVE, let alone what I should be doing, I barely even understand what the game is.

Is there a good way to "find the fun" so to speak, with EVE?
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>>163602831
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>>163602831
Join a corp that does something you're into. For example, Brave Newbies or Pandemic Horde go on fleet roams often.

If you have money to burn dive into a wormhole and float around looting and blowing up t1 explo frigs.
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>find the fun
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>>163602831
There's no real direction in the game, it's pretty shitty in a way in that respect. If your not in a corp your absolutely fucked, and nearly all PVE shit is boring as fuck so you'll be restricted to PVP.

PVP is fun in theory, but 99% of battles are one sides as fuck and I find them boring these days. The larger fleet engagements (basically anything where time dilation kicks in) are literal memes and the most boring fucking things ever, avoid them like the plague.
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>>163602942

>fleet roam
wut this
>wormhole
wut this
>the rest of the stuff you said after "wormhole"
wut this

I'd like to eventually do shit that requires me to actually be skilled/know what I'm doing ie. PvP. But right now I just want to go and do something in game that doesn't require me to fuck around with a shitload of buttons and controls I'm not used to, like PvE stuff or something resource or.... idk... anything that isn't PvP based just yet. I literally haven't undocked from the station since I got to Jita about 11 months ago because I don't really understand why I'd leave... because I don't know what's out there. Fuck.
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What's hauling/trading station to station like for income?

I've only seen mining, exploring, fighting and station trading really discussed in the intros to the game I've read
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>>163597307
exploration is 20m isk per hour until you get killed and it all goes down to 0 isk per hour
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>le iskhr meem xd
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>>163603086

I like the whole idea of the sandbox but I wish I had absolutely any sort of overview on the design of the game. I was asked to start playing by a group of friends who are completely schizophrenic when it comes to playing games and who immediately left to play something else after starting a corp, inviting me, signing it up for faction PvP (i think), making me go to a faction PvP place (i think) where I was the only person who had actually taken any time to fit my ship or look up what the fuck I was meant to be doing, fuck up all their roles and not tackle properly, then quit the game when they got upset that they died once.

I wanted to give the game more of a chance, so that's why I guess I've been paying for it for a year, but I really don't know what to do.
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>>163603168
I assumed you knew a bit more about the game if you've had an account for so long.

Have you done all the career agent missions? Do that, then do the Sisters of Eve epic arc.

By fleet roam i mean roaming around looking for a fight as part of a fleet.

Wormholes are basically "uncharted" space, read up on them. There's many riches to be had there.

Just do all the career agent missions and you'll figure out the basics of what you can do in the game. Look up a youtube video on how to scan for sites when you're doing the exploration tutorial because that part isn't explained very well.
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>>163603416
>? Do that, then do the Sisters of Eve epic arc.

Do you wan tot make him quit the game? Stay the fuck away from that ZZzzzathon.
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>>163603416

Are the career agent missions accessible from any station or do I have to go to specific stations or something?

I have literally no idea about anything, can barely find my way around most of the interface. I just log in every couple months to make sure my skills are training and sit around in Jita for half an hour trying to figure out wtf I should do. All I know about the game is that the guy giving away Geckos for 1m isn't actually giving them away for 1m.... that's it.
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>>163603547
It's free money and combat experience that isn't too risky, not to mention the standings boost. Don't see why anyone shouldn't spend a few hours on it.

>>163603620
You need to go to a specific station. Press F12 and go on the career agents tab, then go to whatever the nearest station is. Luckily there's always one career agent of each kind of work in those stations.
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>>163603547

I want to do the boring shit. Honestly the PvP corps seem awfully pathetic, like big PvP clans in Runescape or something that are just a group of sycophant social retards funnelling their time and resources towards a single egotistical bully just so he wont pick on them.
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>>163603168
>autism
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>>163597531
Thought you stopped doing that so I didn't bother
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>>163603791

ye
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>>163602461
>Is it just me, or are 99% of comments like that from the absolute worst type of egotistical players, who need to hold the game up for some reason over others? Like holy shit guys, give it a rest.
>anyone who tells me this game has a steep learning curve and if I don't like it says I shouldn't play it is ELIEEEEETEST

fuck off loser
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>Bhaalgorns are down to 250mill
Should I buy some up or will they keep dropping?
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I'm new. Does it matter what race I pick? Does anything in character creation matter?
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>>163604709
isn't that the same price as the more expensive t1 bs? ccp wtf
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>>163604730
No.

Only if you are Alpha, then you have to fly your racial ships.
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>>163604730
If you're an alpha clone, it does matter, you get ship race-locked. Read carefully what the different race's ships do, and stick with that.

also the "school" you pick at the end gives you basic skills that match what that school teaches.
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>>163604776
its like 50m more than the average t1 bs

the only reason they're that cheap is because people farm the fuck out of them

they have the same drop rate as every other faction battleship
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>>163604730
If you're f2p you're best off going Gallente, if you're not f2p you should pick a cooler looking race
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>>163605346
nah he's best off going caldari because RLML caracal is literally the best fleet cruiser you can have right now
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>>163603819

Send a mail to "PLEX MASTA FLEX" with your exact account creation date + time and the date you subbed. (you can find account creation in transaction history on the account website)

I plan on honoring all the referrals I got, I just don't plan on making more threads is all.
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>>163605547
Ah ok, I'll do that then also

>PLEX masta FLEX

lol
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>>163605391
>caracal
>wanting shitty dps

ayy
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>>163603168
if you want to learn to pvp with people from this thread, you could join Pupper or All-Out. I've been with those guys for years and if you actually want to get better at the game and find your footing there are definitely people more than willing to help you learn in that alliance.

There's recently been some reorganization taking place to bring All-Out back to its roots of "noobs learning wormholes" (of the "kick everyone and make anyone who wants to stay under the new regime reapply), so now's as good a time as any to get in.

join channel DoomedFromTheStart for more info.
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>>163605346
go gallente

Vexor is by far the best cruiser
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>>163605710
its great DPS and its the best anti-frig, cruiser, destroyer everything
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>gallente
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>>163605710
>mfw RLML's do more DPS even when including the reload than HML's
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How are you supposed to split up your 3 character slots

1 combat then what? 1 dedicated trading and 1 hauling?
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>>163606006
however the fuck you want
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>>163606006
I personally have 1 dedicated PVP character that does nothing but that, then I have another dedicated PVE character and then a third as a spy, cyno, jita market alt or what ever

its up to you what you want to do with them but try to make sure you make them all have different purposes otherwise you'll get bad overlap and redundancy
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>>163606006
courtesy of the pizzawiki
rest in pasta
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>>163606006
I did explorer/trader/hauler

Because both the explorer and trader can get their essential skills very quickly and then won't be hurt without development
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>>163605882
>its great DPS
not even close to vexor
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>muh blasters
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>>163606432
range out to 40+km

meanwhile vexor drones do way less than the RLML caracal and only does more damage if your vexor is on the target
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>>163605162
that's fucking retarded, ccp pls fix this shit

>>163605391
>guys get in proteuses and legions, we need a bunch of guardians too
>or even better, bring a rlml caracal
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>>163606693
>get in proteuses
said nobody ever
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>>163606693
>that's fucking retarded, ccp pls fix this shit
What the fuck is there to fix? What is broken exactly?
>>guys get in proteuses and legions, we need a bunch of guardians too
>or even better, bring a rlml caracal
you're fucking retarded, its the best T1 cruiser for t1 cruiser fleets its the perfect anti-tackle
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>>163606559
250mm + drones >>> mememissiles
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>>163606775
>you're fucking retarded, its the best T1 cruiser for t1 cruiser fleets its the perfect anti-tackle

that was my point you sperg. the guy said best t1 cruiser for fleets, which is clearly wrong because for many fleets it's garbage
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>>163606693
Goons farming the fuck out of blood raider stuff is not a problem that requires fixing.
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>>163606818
>fitting 250mm rails to your vexor
good luck with that and try to fit tank

>>163606862
its not garbage at all. Its high DPS and nails every platform perfectly, has no issues nailing tackle, frigs or anything.
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>>163606863
demand for non-meme battleships being this low is a problem desu

>>163606760
kys

>>163606902
>anon why are you in a caracal the guardians won't be able to keep you alive
>Its high DPS and nails every platform perfectly, has no issues nailing tackle, frigs or anything
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>>163606902
show me one fucking fit for the caracal where I achieve 300dps without T2 or faction missiles

YOU CANT
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>show me a fit that isnt a proper fit
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>>163607034
>>anon why are you in a caracal the guardians won't be able to keep you alive
You seriously can't interpret a hyperbole into its role as a fleet ship for appropriate fleets?

note I didn't fucking say EVERY fleet you mongoloid.

>>163607039
Why can't I use faction missiles? thats standard for every ship in PVP is going to run faction ammo because it does more damage.
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>>163607039
Are you too poor for faction ammo?
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>>163607217
>it's the best fleet cruiser in the game
>oh but not for all fleets lol

your post was inaccurate
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>>163607292
>what is hyperbole
you're autistic
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>>163607310
oh if I was wrong it was just hyperbole too :)
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>>163607034
>>anon why are you in a caracal the guardians won't be able to keep you alive
Its not unheard of for people to armor tank blackbirds or caracals even though they're usually shield ships purely for the anti-tackle role or that there is no real armor ECM platform
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>>163607406
that's unheard of for people who are good at eve
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>>163607378
>my autism in trying to nitpick generalized statements was also a hyperbole
you're autistic
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>>163607490
oh you're posting hyperbole again
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>>163607457
>who are good at eve
what does this even mean? Its a fucking fleet, its not some individualistic people who are "good" Its a conglomerate.

Anti-tackle at the higher level of the T2 and T3 spectra evolves to things like huginns for webs which can be shield or armor tanked easily so they fit into those huge slews of fleets. Things like drones are often supplemented for anti-tackle because at those higher ends you have an entire fleet of gun based DPS with drones supplemental and the drones are placed on the tackle and the guns keep shooting at primaries. Unlike the vexor the otherwise supplemental drones are the primary weapon system
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>>163607235
>he pays 1k per missile

>>163607217
you know that anon asked what is good for new player
new player: means he is poor and skills low

wont use expensive missiles
cant use T2 launchers
probably wont do pvp a long time
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>>163600727
We'll know for sure if its the christmas present if its expiration date isn't 24 hours.

It's supposed to last a few days I believe
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>good at eve
>what does this even mean?

I think we're done here. if you fly an armour caracal then kys
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>expensive missiles
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>>163607649
>you know that anon asked what is good for new player
Why WOULDNT a new player buy faction ammo? What physically stops him?

>he's poor and has low skills
the faction missiles are NOT expensive at all
>low skills
low skills doesn't stop you from using faction missiles

>won't use expensive missiles
ITS NOT EXPENSIVE
>can't use T2 launchers
Meta 4 launchers do the same damage as T2 launchers save for the missile spec skill giving 2% to damage per level.
>probably won't do pvp for a long time
then this entire discussion about PVP fits is irrelevant because you're fucking retarded
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>>163607718
>using "well if the fleet is good that x will or won't happen"

Its a stark umbrella term thats not an adequate rebut for anything as an excuse. Usually when retards like you post stupid shit, someone comes back with an easy solution then you reply with "well I'm good and that doesn't happen" as some sort of advanced qualifier of made up superstition you can just throw at anything to try and null a solution like the fucking idiots who cry about bubbles and when I say "just smart bomb them" you'll say "but if the saber pilot is GOOD I won't be able to"
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>>163607649
Your ship probably costs more than 1k, and better ammo that kills enemies faster is an investment in protecting it.
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>>163607854
>advanced qualifier of made up superstition

your fleet is this bad that a frigate shows up on grid and you're completely helpless against it without rapid lights. you are really this incompetent

>"just smart bomb them" you'll say "but if the saber pilot is GOOD I won't be able to"

bubbles are 20km radius, smartbombs are about 7km radius
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https://eve-central.com/home/quicklook.html?typeid=27387

>FACTION MISSILES ARE JUST TOO FUCKING EXPENSIVE
>buys a 10m cruiser
>I can't afford 400k in ammo to use this cruiser with I'm soooooooo pooooor
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>>163607960
>your fleet is this bad that a frigate shows up on grid and you're completely helpless against it without rapid lights. you are really this incompetent
That has nothing to do with it, the FC just calls the frig primary and the frig dies to RLML

>bubbles are 20km radius, smartbombs are about 7km radius
It was an example you fucking retard you'll just use the "if he's good this doesn't work" instead of an ACTUAL argument extrapolating the point. You're literally using excuses and all you're doing is being a whiny bitch
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>>163608035
just as it would die to cruiser weapons if you weren't incompetent. then the FC can call bigger ships primary without the 100 dps armour caracal being a waste of space

>It was an example you fucking retard

it was a failure of an example because it makes you look dumb
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>>163608110
>shifting the goalposts from the original topic of how "its too good" as an excuse to bitching about the example used because you can't see the point

Like those retarded foreshadow retards
>just primary him
>BUT LOGI
>shoot the logi
>I CANT
>why
>MUH DPS
>just alpha it then
>IF THEYRE GOOD THEYLL STOP ME WAH
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>>163608187
>shifting the goalposts

you're the one who changed the subject friend

oh look you changed the subject again to another one of those made up times when you are right and everyone else is stupid
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>>163608254
>you're the one who changed the topic
no this motherfucker>>163607457
use the "if they're good" -ism to negate any rebutal

>its not unheard of to armor tank things like blackbirds or caracals to fit ECM or anti-tackle roles in fleets
>NUT UH GOOD PEOPLE DONT DO THAT HAHAHAH I WIN
you're fucking retarded
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your all stupid
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>>163608336
calm down. you could rephrase that post to "you're fucking shit at eve" if it would make you less upset

definitely would just kill you if you tried to bring an armour tanked ecm caracal to a fleet
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>>163608437
>armor tanked ECM caracal

I said armor ECM for blackbirds and armor caracals for anti-tackle roll in armor fleets if need be. Its certainly not unheard of there are no real anti-tackle ships on the cruiser platform that are armor tanked the same way that there are no ECM platforms on the armor level
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>>163608535
pro tip you do not need any of this shit if you have any ships with web range bonus, or any kind of proper tackle. all frigates instantly die. and if you're talking interceptors, you will not kill interceptors with a 0dps caracal
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>>163608339
>your all stupid
>your

but we are the stupid? lol
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>>163608715
which ships are the new players going to bring that have web range bonuses?
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>>163543359
Yes, they're a weeb for being able to look at a filename and look it up.

Or maybe you're just ignorant.

Yes, I think you're just ignorant.
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>>163608772
you have all the stupids
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>>163608776
they can bring the proper tackle. you could have someone who isn't a newbro flying your hyena if you like
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>>163608849
That didn't answer my question
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>>163608882
your question was stupid
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Guys.

Can I dock my rorqual at a large EC, or have I got to piss about with industrials?
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>>163608939
>bring long range webs
>what ships can alphas use that get that?
>bring the proper tackle hurr
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>>163608992
I said bring long range webs or actual tackle ships
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>>163608992
Cruor and ashimmu
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>>163609057
Yes and I asked which ships get the long range web bonus that the alphas can use

>bring proper tackle
No I asked for anti-tackle before
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>alphas
>pirate ships
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>>163609169
>No I asked for anti-tackle before

if you warp scramble someone with a tackle frigate, then get your fleet to shoot it, it dies
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>>163609147
alphas can't fly that

>>163609215
Holy shit you're thicker than a bowl of oatmeal

I asked for anti-tackle ships that specifically work in shitting on tackle ships. Go ahead try getting your own tackle to chase the enemy tackle instead of bringing appropriate shit like a RLML caracal or some high-tracking destroyer to shoot it.
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>>163609310
no, you're retarded

>Go ahead try getting your own tackle to chase the enemy tackle

I do all the time and it works very well. perhaps you should get good, but it does involve more than anchoring and broadcasting for reps

>armour tanked ecm caracal
>appropriate
>ever

and t1 destroyers are a fucking joke
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>>163609437
>>armour tanked ecm caracal

wat
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No one suggested bringing an armour ecm caracal, maybe you should work on your reading comprehension.
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does energy neutralizer have any effect on NPC rat at all?
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C A R A C A L
A
R
A
C
A
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I want to do level II missions in a frigate-class ship.

Provided I'm level 3-5 mastery for all small ships, which is the best one?
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>>163610267
literally anything that isn't an ewar or a logi frigate.

captcha, crème brulee is not coffee.
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>>163610486

Yeah but I want to do them super fast with some thinking behind it. I'm not good at the thinking part.

I just want a silly bling frig that I don't get laughed for fitting improperly.
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>>163610678
worm is insanely overpowered and also retard-proof, if you want to fly a faction ship
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>>163610678
A t2 fit rifter will eat most of them without any issue. If you want bling, listen to this guy. >>163610726
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>>163610726

this shit right here is what im talking about
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I'm a lazy cunt who lives in a wormhole but can't be bothered to bring blue loot to hi-sec. What's the best ship for popping into a null hole and ratting without bothering about damage types/resistances?
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>>163610726
>tfw inexperienced at pvp
>bring my executioner to an fw system, start looking around
>punisher in a small plex, hopefully i'll catch it before it warps, or better, it's a shit combat fit
>warp in
>start whittling down the Punisher
>mfw Worm uncloaks and 2 shots me

Is this a common 1337 pvp tactic? I guess I'm not taking t1 frigs into small plexes again.
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Training and fitting a stratios for exploration. Should I lose the omnidirectional tracking unit or is it worth it?
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>>163611196
no, because it can't actually do anything to you after decloaking for like 15 seconds. people who are attentive can just bail
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>>163611285
I could swear when I saw it on overview i was already dying. I guess I'll pay more attention next time. Any chance it just warped in on me? I was pretty much on the plex warp in point. Not to mention I was close-range brawling and the Punisher was scramming me.
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>>163611421
there's no way for me to know. you should be watching your d-scanner while you fight, and one of the advantages of gay scram kiting ships is they can pull out of scram range and bail very quickly, which makes them pretty appealling for solo if you don't want to be a kitenigger
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>>163611421
>Any chance it just warped in on me?

This is possible, but if you need to ask it means you aren't watching dscan. Most of fw pvp is knowing which fights to take, you need to use your intel.
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>>163611636
>>163611558
Lesson learned. Worm wasn't on D-scan when I warped in though, guess I wasn't paying attention while I fought. Thanks.
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>EFT
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>turn on my adaptive invulnerability field
>die anyway
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Does race really matter for an alt hauler?

It's suggested that amarr have one of the best ships for it but it should take long for any race to train it up right?
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>>163613790
Hauling what?

Gallente have all the specialised ones, I think the bestower can get slightly bigger than the itty V though. (But don't haul anything in max expanded t1 haulers for fucks sake)
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If I can only train into one tac dessie for PvE, which should it be?
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>>163614170
>pve

>t3d

Unless you're in C13 wormholes, why bother?
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>>163614170
Fessor
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which ships are ccp downgrading next
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>>163616820
rorqual some more?
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>>163616820
Minmatar destroyers
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>>163617054
I think they quietly cancelled that

>>163617045
rorqual visuals haven't changed in forever
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>>163617054
That's not a bad avatar.
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>>163613874
max expanded fast/tanky haulers are fine, it's just the fat/slow/big ones that end up being like 2k ehp
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>>163617385
I still wouldn't go near them, but I fly t2 haulers so
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>>163617493
well yeah t2 completely replace t1

>ccp
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>>163613790
Not anymore

And as a tip don't even try to haul until you're flying a blockade runner
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>tfw christmas present today from ccp
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>>163607406
>Armor tank blackbirds or caracals
This is the exact same thing as equipping a rogue with full plate. It means you have zero fucking clue how class roles work and you want to be that special snowflake that fits the square peg in the round hole.

You're the kind of fuck that tries to do CQC with a sniper and snipe with an SMG. And I know you, you're probably trying to think of a million and one exceptions to that rule right now, and that's why you'll never amount to anything in life because you're trying to find some zany and unique way to do the most simplest of tasks.
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>>163619386
>you'll never amount to anything in life

wow. I think fitting armour tank to shield ships etc. is retarded, but I didn't go that far
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Will I eventually reach a point where I'm held back by money rather than by skill training times?
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>>163621173
Probably not
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>>163621173
if you aren't autistic then sure
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>>163621173
Well maybe in terms of injectors, otherwise no.

Only the oldest of players get that luxury
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>last post 1 hour ago

could it be eog actually has a life?
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>>163625326
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>>163619386
>I don't want "I win" ewar in an armor fleet
Armor blackbirds are legit bro.
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>>163619386
>This is the exact same thing as equipping a rogue with full plate. It means you have zero fucking clue how class roles work and you want to be that special snowflake that fits the square peg in the round hole.
Fit a 1600mm plate to a blackbird to get good armor tank with maximum ECM

>you have zero fucking clue how class roles work
Blackbird does ECM, how hard is that? Do you armor tank your curse too?
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>shield curse
>unironically
>ever
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>>163627195
4 mids isn't enough to armor tank especially when you have no fucking powergrid and need 2 fucking T2 ACR's just to make it work. Even then the shield curse gets better tank because it has so many fucking mids
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>if I take off all my ewar I can fit a better tank
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>>163627353
people don't use Curses for the TD. They do it for the super good neuts. It doesn't have enough lows and PG to get a good armor tank, you can't fit a 1600mm plate to it without making super sacrifices to neuts and shit. Its not worth the trouble
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>people don't use Curses for the TD

yes, we already know people are shit at fitting
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>you're not allowed to use an armor blackbird its just not right!
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>1163m/s
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>>163627616
No its because the shield curse gets better tank and way more DPS on drones, and gets way better neuts because it doesn't have to do retarded shit like use small neuts on a cruiser
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>curse
>DPS

just lmao
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>>163628113
Or what ever else you wanna do with your lowslots, you only get 3 after a DCU and you don't have the PG to ever think about a 1600mm plate

>inb4 800mm plate
enjoy your shit tank and shit agility. A 1600mm plate with one trimark is better than an 800mm plate with 3 trimarks
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>no you're not allowed to do a shield curse, its not right!
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>shield curse and 1km/s blackbird guy talking about agility and tank
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>no cap
>no dps
>no tackle or ewar of any kind
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>exploring drone space
>rats with 900k bounties flying around
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>>163628372
>no you're not allowed to do a shield curse, its not right!

ITT: Things no one ever said
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>yea this armor curse is WAY better than the shield curse despite having half as much tank and having to use 2 T2 ACR's just to get a 1600mm and all compact neuts on
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Is a proteus good for anything anymore?
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post your qts
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>shield tank your blackbird because I said so
>ok put your one single jam on the target
>FC its a ladar ECM and I'm trying to jam an augorer :^)
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>heh, I'll make a really shit fit, that'll show him your ironic shit armour curse fit is still better than your shield curse m8
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>>163628928
long range pointing with hyper tank, long range railguns and drones

>>163629008
>almost half the tank
>worse neuts
>better
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>5 tracking disruptors instead of 0 tracking disruptors
>hur it's worse
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>>163629184
>35k tank
>usable in ANY fleet
enjoy getting alpha'd off the planet as your armor windshield wipers back and forth until you die
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>getting alpha'd

you turn the tracking disruptors on so your fleet takes less damage, that's why you bring them
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>>163629374
>its only a 5 man fleet guys
>29k armor is totally enough
you'll get alphad regardless no amount of TD's is going to save you. The curse has the worst tank than every other CRS by huge margins. Armor Huginns and Lachesis get way more tank because they don't have to blow their rigs on ACR's when they can fit trimarks. 29k isn't enough you're just going to get straight alpha'd between primary weapon system damage and the drones
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>oh we're talking about massive blob fleets now anon, but you still need to use all your grid on useless neuts because I said so
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>>163629692
>blob fleets don't count when I lose the argument
>this tankless curse is so great I swear
>NO 10 man fleets are a blob because I only have 5 TD's
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>useless neuts
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>you have to take your curse to a much larger gang than its setup is suited to
>fitting less neuts and more tank is against the rules, please delete that 55k ehp setup you're looking at
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>>163628929
you first
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>he thinks his small neuts do piddly shit in comparison to medium neuts.
>he thinks halving the tank and ultimately having the LEAST tank is good
>no anon that fleet is too big even though every other CRS can participate in them, the curse totally has enough lows and PG, 29k armor tank is enough
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>>163630546
rude
>>
Are any of the exploration tools useful enough to bother using for people out wishing to make big explo ISK?


I saw one linked in some old guide but it no longer works because the IG browser is gone
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>29k
>mfw this low tier strawman
>he thinks effectively disabling the weapons of 5 enemy ships is not useful somehow
>>
>go thru gate
>left overview on loot tab from previous system, drop gate cloak to reload probes
>rats camping the gate
>killmail'd, don't get podded.
>force quit the game
>cool off
>come back to the game but it freezes everytime i try to log into that pilot

Did I just get .hack'd?
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20 MINUTES
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>>163633990
?
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>>163634197
more venture skins
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>>163634197
day 12 gifts.
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>>163633990
for disappointment
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>>163634197
20 minutes until CCP gives us the greatest christmas gift ever given in the history of video games.

20 minutes until we all jizz in our pants at the sheer RADNESS of the gifts they have given us.

20 minutes until I am coolest nigga in my station sporting the newest gifts showered upon us by the glorious CCP big dick niggas.
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>>163634313
CCP said it will be special.
They wouldnt do us like that.
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>>163634493
>>163634334
>Everyone gets a free titan
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>>163634696
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hHRNSeuvzlM
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>>163634493
>they release drilling platforms as the gift
only good outcome in all of this
>>
it'll be an announcement of CCP and Eve shutting down
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>>163634883
They could fix every bug in the game and add every piece of content ever wanted, and 90% of people would still be pissed they didn't get a tangible item as a gift.
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>>163625326
I was playing cards with my parents

So yes I have an amazing life full of adventure
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>>163634883
>releasing drilling platforms
>without a sisi testing period

you know this isn't going to happen
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>>163635279
You're a good son anon.
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WTF LOL
ITS SHIT
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>>163635478
>its
This is bait.
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lel it's the typical snowballs every fucking mmo does for winter and a skin
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S P E C I A L
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>CCP removed the edit saying how december 25ths present will be more special so will be available longer

kek
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>mfw some tryhard no-fun faggot complains about snowballs/fireworks on a fleet
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>>163635807
Nevermind here it is.
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>December 25th

Okay tomorrow is the official last day.

That anon way up there is a fucking doofus saying how it's "In game date that counts"


MMO games don't talk in game-code to their potential and current customers
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>MMO games don't talk in game-code to their potential and current customers

wat
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>>163636597
the gifts change over at midnight dickhead, it is the 25th
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>the gifts change over at midnight

wat
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>>163635548
Really? That's disappointing.

I thought we were going to get another cerebral accelerator thingy at least.
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>>163636942
>>163636597

They could be doing another secret troll gift like they did with the 300 aurum.
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>>163636597
>what are timezones lel i am murican and my education is worse than chinese xDxxdxdx xDxd
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>He thinks a day is 1 minute long

keked
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>>163637337
If you're not american you should kill yourself desu
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>>163637045
That wasn't secret, it was then realising that giving it away as an item would encourage mad alt accoutns
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>>163637696
i'm contemplating it each day just so i don't have to read any of your stupid shit anymore, worse than turkroaches
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>>163638025
Do it, nobody loves you.
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whats a good t1 drone boat?
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>>163638463
In order of ship class:
Tristan
Algos
Vexor
Myrm
Dominix
>>
Every single wormhole having a customs office in it kills the imemrsion
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>>163639072
Too many citadels kill it more for me
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>>163639072
Wormholes doesnt feel dangerous enough for me.
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>>163638953

don't forget the dragoon, arby, prophecy, and geddon.
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>>163639326
As a newbie explorer they're much safer than null in my experience even though the reverse is billed as true
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The real gift is coming at server down, you know, when it will be christmas for everyone around the world not just these butthurt europoors that think the world revolves around them and their timezone.

Screenshot this.
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>>163639545
>can see local pilots in local chat in null sec
>can't in Wormholes

what did he mean by this?
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>>163639425
>dragoon
>good

pick only one
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>>163639425
>>163638953
What about going to t2?
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>>163639842
Ishkur Ishtar Eos Sin
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>>163639594
>Gifts released at european TZ
They win no matter what anon.
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What's a fun t2 frigate to work towards for _____PVE?
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>>163639072
wormholes are nothing like how they were meant to be. they've just been completely memed out by fags
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>>163639803
this thing seriously needs a third mid or at least more gun or missile slots. Should get 5 gun or missile slots like the algos. 3 of each is stupid and filling your highs with nothing but neuts and noses is kind of stupid
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>>163640451
>3 of each is stupid

why? you can fill your highs with weapons if you like, or use some neuts and some weapons like a sensible
>>
>To be eligible for rewards, the new Recruit account needs to be activated and the account Omega fee for the Recruit account received by CCP. The Recruit account Omega fee may not be paid using Direct Debit, any in-game currency or other game credits, including (but not limited to): PLEX, CD Keys, including CD Keys or CD-Key type Starter Packs purchased or received from non-CCP sources and online stores such as, but not limited to: Amazon Starter Pack and Game Stop.
The fuck using PLEX to upgrade is now invalid for buddy invite reward too?
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>>163640536
>you can fill your highs with weapons if you like

sure you can its just you have to pick 3 guns and 3 missiles to get max dps out of it. Its kind of stupid since mixed weapon systems are usually bad like that loki subsystem that gets 4 guns and 4 missile launchers. The problem is that it gets the max benefits of neither and performs poorly because of it.

Just remove a high, make all the slots either 5 missiles or 5 guns, then move that removed high to a mid so it can run a cap booster
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>>163640554
first charge is like a 5$ fee on top of the subscription. not unheard of in the MMO world.
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>>163640693
>sure you can its just you have to pick 3 guns and 3 missiles to get max dps out of it

there's literally nothing wrong with that

>The problem is that it gets the max benefits of neither and performs poorly because of it.

no, it's just worse at using damage mods, but you aren't using damage mods anyway except DDAs unless you're retarded
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>>163640786
>there's literally nothing wrong with that
except the fact that its a bad mix and you get poor performance with it.

Since its unbonused people usually just pick autocannons and rockets

I hope when CCP rebalances T1 destroyers they give the coercer and dragoon a third mid

Just saying with the dragoon it should have 5 gun slots like the algos
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>>163636095
We've been cucked. It is the final gift since it has 16 days redeeming timer which places it exactly on 2017/01/09

On a side note:
>2016
Nice fuck-up, CCP.
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>>163641005
NEVER GIVE UP HOPE
NEVER SURRENDER
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>>163640771
Fuck I missed the old PLEX-to-PLEX buddy invite and now they nuked the 30d GT + 30d extra alt method too.
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>>163641095
Where are you reading all this stuff about them nuking the 30d time?

I got the free 30 days just 1 week ago as an alpha
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>>163641005
I got snowballs, 2 festive launchers and a rupture skin

jeez these xmas gifts are really bad. We got 20 days of free training last year and a leopard too
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>>163640972
>except the fact that its a bad mix and you get poor performance with it.

it's not a 'bad mix'. there is nothing wrong with it

and the only problem with T1 destroyers, beyong the big problem of damage mitigation in gang fights being broken and small ships being inherently fucked is they're about 30-40% slower than they should be
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>>163641331
>it's not a 'bad mix'. there is nothing wrong with it
yea it is. it means you have to run two different damage sources on your weapon systems. Having to deal with the differences between guns and missiles makes it run poorly. It should be like the algos, get 5 gun or 5 missile slots so it can get good damage with them.

An algos can run 5 rails or 5 blasters or what ever

a dragoon only has 3 and your other 3 are always rockets. its a bad combo because its not syncronized
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>>163641289
I don't remember this
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>>163641289
>these xmas gifts are really bad
And it's not like they are doing this to limit the alpha account abuse;
Gifts were utter shit when EVE was p2p only too.

CCP never ceases to disappoint.
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>>163641570
You weren't around when we got 20 days free multicharacter training and a leopard
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>>163641647
>Gifts were utter shit when EVE was p2p only too.
>leopards, genolutions, 20 days multicharacter training, attribute remaps are all really bad gifts
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>>163641668
I remember last Christmas being shit and nothing Sheffield and people saying the previous year was the best.
Are you sure the leopard thing was last year?
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>tfw u made 300m from the skins they gave us today
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>>163641807
I think the 20 days of free multichar training was last year. It was pretty dope
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>complaining about gifts
Such entitlement
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>>163641874
Sounds like shit.
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>>163536710
Not if you go through lowsec. That's an option if you're avoiding a wt.
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>>163641647
If you don't like the gift nobody is forcing you to redeem it.
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>>163642016
I made a cyno character and a mining barge character. For my third account I just added the 20 days of training to the account. free 20 days can't complain
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>>163641989
>Gifts in a sub based vidya
>Entitled
Implying in not paying PLEX to make sure the devs are working on shit like this and making sure I recieve shit on holidays to make me happier.

If anything alphas shouldn't get shit.
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>final gift is fucking snowballs
>not even the new fireworks

Fucking CCP
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>tfw I fell for the afk mining meme
It's absolutely not afk, you need to run back to your station every 36 minutes and have to autistically keep checking every 3 minutes to see if the asteroid is still there

What activity do I train into before I kill myself, quick
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Is a loki good?
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>>163641161
Wait so it's like you can still get the 30 days as long as the 5$ first charge is paid along with PLEX?
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>CCP
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>>163642450
"AFK" is a big meme in this game.
I've only been playing this game for like 3 years and I noticed a lot of the terms used by the general community are just outright wrong or used on a incorrect manner.

Take everything with a grain of salt also don't trust people information blindly, when I was new project kept giving me advice that was obviously Very fucking outdated, like years outdated.
People that had been playing for 10 years and had a lot of experience but had very bad information.

As for your problem, make sure you spread out the mining lasers between asteroids, and if you have a good setup, have one guy with a scanner to avoid wasting cycles.

If you are in a nullbear corp, train for "AFK" ratting.
It's not afk at all but it's really good ISK.
If you want to stay near highsec, train for a battleship and do incursions.
Not AFKable at all but good isk.
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>enjoying my time on my main, figure it might be time to start an alt
>learn about the skill training restrictions for alts

honestly, droppped this game like a very hot potato
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>>163554271

Look through your transactions and ask them.
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>>163643003
Ok goodbye.
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>>163642619
Why do you guys keep talking about 5$?
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>>163641768
Okay I take that back, even though only leopards and multi-training were worthwhile ones.
Genolutions were essentially isk (even though I still have mine, but their price tanked again) and neural remap is as shit as the entire attribute system.

Sure it's better than nothing and I was pretty happy with past years stuff (even though it was shit, even shit can make people happy).
Hell, even this year's skins and aurum weren't that bad, though I feel let down.

But the worst part is that this year they hyped the fuck about how "special" the final gift is going to be.
And guess what? It's fucking snowballs! Something they give away EVERY YEAR.
Come on now, I can't believe you *aren't* angry about this.
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>>163643480
genolutions are super useful. You get a good bunch extra CPU, PG, Shield, Armor and cap regen. All those features combined can really make certain extraneous special wonky fits work really well.
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>>163641545
more like it's a good combo because it's harder to avoid damage. if you have 5 blasters I can scram kite you, if you have 5 rails, well >algos, so I can probably still scram kite you, or I can just get up on you. if I have 3 rockets and 3 pulse lasers what are you going to do exactly

having all weapons of the same type does not increase damage btw
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newbro here. where do i find killmails in game? was flying around in a gnosis in high sec areas fitting out muh ship with cheap options and ended up running across a couple war dec'd players [my first time experiencing that out in the wild]... definitely learned from my mistake. i think if my ship was fully fitted at that time i could have taken them. just wanted to find the kill mail in game
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>>163643771
>having all weapons of the same type does not increase damage btw
It makes for more consistent damage. Having 5 autocannons or 5 rockets is better purely for consistency
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>>163644002
more consistently avoidable damage. it's funny you should bring this up on a ship whose damage is 50% drones, I would've thought you'd be sperging about how ccp should remove all its highslots and make it pure drone damage
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>>163643667
Yes, I theorycrafted with them a lot. But their limited availability makes those fits unsustainable which mean it's a gimmick at best.
Especially since CCP finds the most ridiculous ways for distributing them.

Speaking of that, we could have gotten a genolution for xmas. Alpha abuse would make that particular kind cheap.
One cheap genolution on the market sounds like a healthy thing.
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>>163643914
On your character menu. Press the character portrait and look around in there.
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>>163644076
The algos gets 50% to drones too with 5 guns

the dragoon gets 3/3 guns missiles that you aren't even bound to use. I'd much rather have 6 highs, 5 be guns/missiles and 1 be a neut or another way of having 4 guns/missiles and having 2 slots be neuts. the 3/3 split just sucks IMO.

I honestly just want the 3rd midslot and give it more fitting
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>>163597415
Venture mining a year or so ago was about 4mil per hour irrc. It was that or 20, but I don't think so. 1mil and 5mil per haul both sound right cause my memory's real bad.

Whichever it was, that was solo fresh off the boat too. Get a few babbies together with a hauler and you might scrape a living. Could get yourselves an orca sugar daddy to ice the cake, too.
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>>163643771
>I'll just scram kite you
>vs a dragoon
>that gets 12km neuts
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>>163601157
No. You're probably just misjudging how long you were tabbed.
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>>163644338
it doesn't need the third midslot though. drones don't care about webs, and if you're neuting people out you also don't really care. not giving up a low for that. coercer and catalyst also don't really need it. having few slots for webs and shit makes frigate vs destroyer fun - the frigate can control the range easily but the destroyer has gigantic range, tracking and damage. it's not just approach gg auto win like brawling a t1 cruiser with a bc

>>163644452
>I'm gay and can't read
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I'm just not impressed by this thing. I think its doing too much and can't do enough in one place. Its also really slow, IMO the algos is better
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>>163644726
>Dragoon
>no neuts

What the fuck are you doing anon
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>>163642619
nevermind just remembered I was plexed before I got 30 days free.

Im not entirely sure how it works for alphas then, but it says right there they get 30 days free time
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>>163644807
stop posting

>>163644726
algos is only better because of meme tanking being broken
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>>163644384
It's 4m. 5k m3 of high sec ore is around 1m and the Venture fills its 5k ore hold in around 15 minutes.
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>>163644725
>it doesn't need the third midslot though
>capacitor depletes in 00:00:24

The coercer definitely needs it. Its so fucking cap hungry its impossible to last beyond a short time while juggling 2 fucking balls between your prop and guns with your guns capping you out really bad.

The dragoon needs a third mid for a web, its in the same problem boat as the punisher. Where its so slow it can't effectively tackle anything. its neuts can effectively tackle something but it hardly matters when its so slow an enemy will literally coast out of your scram range. It happens a lot with the punisher.

>>163644843
>meme tanking
fuck off with your dumb memes that mean literally nothing. The algos is able to focus better on what it was meant to do and can perform a number of roles due to its good fitting and third mid. The dragoon can't really go anywhere outside of buffer tanking with a few neuts in the highs and a measly 3 guns/3 rockets.
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>>163645103
I mean just playing with the fit, the third mid allows it to run an effective active tank while still keeping up with everything.

The dragoon I can only do a buffer tank. It can't do any active tank because it can't run a cap booster and the neuts certainly don't help either

I personally think I could forgo the weapons on the aglos, put neuts on it, run the cap booster and perform better than a dragoon at its own game

I have a huge cargo full of cap boosters to keep all my modules running and eventually the dragoon will have to shut off its guns (if they use cap) shut off its prop, scram, and its own neuts purely because it can't keep up. If it has a nos or even 2 it doesn't matter and can't do shit I'm neuting as often as he is
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>>163645103
>>capacitor depletes in 00:00:24

there's nothing wrong with this. yes, you have to turn your neuts off after you've fucked up the enemy cap, and there's a little bit of skill involved, unlike other neut ships

>fuck off with your dumb memes that mean literally nothing

fuck off retard, hull tanking is broken as shit and has made lowsec pvp even more terrible. the algos, comet and tristan are great at it because apparently gallente needed buffs even though all these ships were great before

>The coercer definitely needs it

coercer fucking wrecks shit and everyone knows, except when you fly it I guess because you're shit

>slow

I already said t1 destroyers need like +30-40% more prop speed, everyone who isn't retarded agrees

>an enemy will literally coast out of your scram range

people will dictate range on your destroyer, this is how destroyers work. go fly a meme tanked hookbill or something if you want to play the range control faggot game
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>>163645495
>t1 destroyer
>effective active tank

just no, stop it. even if you had 4 lows it would still be totally retarded

>I personally think I could forgo the weapons on the aglos, put neuts on it, run the cap booster and perform better than a dragoon at its own game

have fun with that. enjoy that 4km neut range. people won't have to fly out of scram range, they can just scram kite you and shit on you
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>>163603734
It's a little less lame than that but not too far off the mark.

Null sovereignty is a little more like gang wars, I'd say. There's always a leader and you usually do have to suck his dick a bit, but you're all working towards keeping your turf to make money and be able to say you kept your turf.

There's also neat little intricacies in this, like recon reporting and patrols.

Eve's game design as a whole can be best described as being directed at real immersion. Not like, "this is a world I can believe exists and nothing takes me out of it" kind of immersion, but more like, "this game functionally makes me behave as if I were living as a pod person in a space ship."

Like, there used to be a loose band of ice miners in my corp's home system. No corps, maybe personal corps or a couple were corped together, but not held together by anything as a whole, and they'd just hang out together mining ice, talking about their spouses and kids and complaining about the really obvious botter/multiclicker that would roll through every once in a while. Shit like that is what makes eve cool to me and I kind of get the sense that's a lot of what ccp goes for as far as game design.

So if you wanna just pay for the game, hang out in stations and chill to be a part of this little world, I'd say more power to you. Though you don't have to pay to do that anymore.

But yeah, there's things to do also if you wanna do things. Career agents show you most of the standard roles.
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>>163645547
>there's nothing wrong with this.
>theres nothing wrong with capping yourself out so bad the enemy doesn't even need neuts to make you shit the bed.

>hull tanking is broken because gallente ships have more hull than armor half the time. waaa

>coercer wrecks shit
fucking hardly, it can't run its fucking guns worth a damn because youll cap yourself out. Wanna kite with an MWD? fuck you too because you have no way to run your MWD since that caps you out bad and so do your guns.

The coercer gets less cap regen than the trasher.

>can't say anything or extrapolate arguments so he just calls everything a meme because he doesn't like it
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>>163645778
>>theres nothing wrong with capping yourself out so bad the enemy doesn't even need neuts to make you shit the bed.

it's buffer tanked and has capless guns you scrub. all you need to keep running is a scram, and even someone as bad as you has worked out that enduring scrams are amazing

>>hull tanking is broken because gallente ships have more hull than armor half the time. waaa

please kill yourself, hull tanking is really bad for the game and also buffed a load of ships that were already very good

>oh no I have to manage my capacitor wtf ccp this isn't like my heavy assault ships pls buff
>>
>>163645689
>>effective active tank
>just no, stop it. even if you had 4 lows it would still be totally retarded
I just posted a dank algos fit that tanks well

>good luck with that
I will, as my neuts NEVER shut off and I'll cap a dragoon out at its own game. Who cares if it gets better range I'll just catch up to it because the algos is way faster than the dragoon It'll be down in no time

>wow neut me
>slurps cap booster 400
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>>163645936
>>oh no I have to manage my capacitor wtf ccp this isn't like my heavy assault ships pls buff

>JUST JUGGLE YOUR CAP REEEE
>juggle one module
Yea because juggling one fucking module is "cap management"

inb4 "just shut off your guns"

>its buffer tanked
and thats all it can do, enjoy being slow as piss, it doesn't even have fitting for buffer because all of it went into your guns

>coercer
>capless guns
hahahahaha what
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>mfw I beat a dragoon at its own game because the dragoon can't do anything


neut yourself
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>>163645991
>I just posted a dank algos fit that tanks well

no, you posted a really bad algos fit that would eat shit vs everything

>m-muh 1v1!

so now you're confirmed kys, since you're comparing ships by talking about how they'd 1v1 each other. r/eve / official eve forums shitter tier

>oh boy I sure am neuting the shit out of this buffer tanked ship with capless guns, maybe I can offline his plate

>>163646076
you have to "juggle" the neuts as well faggot and figure out when the enemy is out of cap. or I mean you could just leave them all on then complain when you cap out

>thats all it can do

all t1 destroyers can only buffer tank. if you active tank a t1 destroyer in pvp you're a retard

>coercer
>capless guns

I thought you were talking about the dragoon, make your mind up shitter
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>>163646213
even in your retarded made up 1v1s you lose. neuts don't do anything to a dragoon. you removed half your dps for useless modules
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>>163646239
>no, you posted a really bad algos fit that would eat shit vs everything
Nice rebutal, care to elaborate or are you just going to call it a meme because you can't make a good comeback?

>muh 1v1
who cares? the algos can fit into fleets way better than the algos can since it can do so much more.

>just juggle my neuts
I thought we were talking about a coercer faggot

the coercer is shit, the thrasher gets better cap regen which is saying something

>all T1 destroyers can only buffer tank
>NO THAT ACTIVE TANK ALGOS DOESNT COUNT REEEEEEE

>I thought you were talking about the dragoon
says the shitter who called the coercer good

>>163646337
>Nuuuuu your neuts don't shut off my... neuts, or prop, or scram I swear! it doesn't count

you're 100% autistic, retarded just biomass, kys famalam faggot
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>>163646513
I didn't call it a meme I called it bad

yeah that increased tracking on its 75mm rails makes the algos so useful in fleets. no t1 destroyer other than long range snipey meme fits will work in fleets. ships like algos dragoon coercer will always just be instantly primaried, and being basically frigate ehp with cruiser speed/sig, they die instantly and are useless

>the coercer is shit

I doubt you've ever flown a coercer. in fw people know how powerful the coercer is, shit melts

>active tank

your hilarious shitfit isn't really making a good case m8. these ships have no range control or damage mitigation or resists. buffer tank enhances their good (for a frigate lol) hp

>neuts

I don't need my neuts running vs a buffer tanked neuting ship

>prop

both scrammed, prop is off

>scram

you used 5 highslots, a midslot and all of your powergrid to have a chance at intermittently turning off a warp scrambler

>you're 100% autistic

fly a coercer then kys
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>>163646943
>I didn't call it a meme I called it bad
>meme tanking
>meme fit
>hull meme
>I didn't call it a meme I swear!

>that increased tracking really helps with 75mm rails
I fit mine with 125's tyvm gets out to 21km with tungsten its pretty dank.

>meme fit long range snipy
he called it a meme again. It can't even speak english, he can't read and he can't write.

>I doubt you've ever flown a coercer
flow one not very long because I capped out on the undock

>it doesn't count so I'm not gonna say anything but meme it out because thats the only word I know, thats why your active tank fit is bad
gg no ree, you're fucking retarded

>I don't need my neuts running
I guess you don't need your prop and scram running either.

>both scrammed prop is off
not like you had the cap to turn it on anyway.

>you used 5 highs
the dragoon doesn't fair well either it loses cap way faster and simply can't compete.

Stay autistic faggot. EVE needs more shitters like you for me to take a dump on with garbage amarr tech with no cap
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>>163647210
kys
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>>163647421
>>
you two clowns should just go and kill yourself or 1v1 at jita sun or something.
>>
So, sentry drones, y/n? I'm currently flying a tristan for FW PvP and a VNI for PvE and wondering how they compare to normal drones.
>>
>>163647859
it's ok we stopped now. I told him to kill himself and he has no counterargument
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>>163647905
>sentries for a tristan
no, you only get like 50dps out of one.

For PvE use heavy drones because they do more damage even though they have to travel
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Should I wait to sell plex? My little understanding of this topic tells me the price will rise eventually but maybe a marketjew would differ.
>>
Sorry if this is retarded, but I'm new so I'm probably going to be retarded. I was out in null hacking stuff and all of a sudden I just died. I don't think I got targeted by anything, and whatever killed me 100% one shot my heron. I checked my kill log and it just has 'secure databank' as the only kill participant, doing all the damage.

My question is, do these things just kinda blow up sometimes? Is there anything I can do to prevent it? I know about them shutting down if you fail twice, but I hadn't even failed it once.
>>
>Celetis skin

Would it be too much to ask for a skin to a ship that I actually use? No one even wants to buy this garbage.
>>
>>163648850
>not flying celestis

are you shit at eve by any chance
>>
>>163648835
container blew up.

do safe pirate sites if you want to not be blown up
>>
>>163648894
>flying something ugly as fuck

Shit taste.
>>
>>163648917
Are safe vs unsafe sites notated differently? I was only able to do two before I exploded, so I'm not 100% sure what I'm looking for
>>
>>163649218
yes
>>
>>163649218
http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Ghost_Site
>>
>>163649218
The safe ones are pirate sites which have the name of a pirate faction such as Guristas, Serpentis, or Sansha in the name.
>>
>>163649769
In womhole class 1-3 only
>>
>2 cosmic signatures
>scan to 10%
>scan down more, the signature disappears

what does this mean?
>>
>>163650196
Someone else finished the site or collapsed the wormhole.
>>
>>163650196
snoozed and ya loozed
>>
For missions, should I even fit guns on my tristan? How do I stop my drones from getting blapped?
>>
vargur or machariel for L4s
>>
>>163649067
it's what's on the inside that counts
>>
>>163651348
if you can fit guns then sure why not

if rats start shooting your drones, call in the one getting shot, the easiest way to launch and recall drones is to drag them. caldari drones are probably the most survivable. I'm not entirely sure on how rat aggro works, but I think if your ship deals some damage by itself, then it'll probably be a much higher priority target for the rats than individual drones
>>
>>163648760
Sell plex when you need/want the isk. Otherwise keep them to appreciate value. Your instinct is correct, but the price difference in the short term is negligible enough.
>>
>>163651348
fit civilian blasters just to draw aggro away from your drones
>>
>be travelling
>session loads
>like 80 concord battleships, no wrecks
what the fuck happened here
>>
>>163650259
>>163650240
but theres nobody in local

it just happened to me again
>>
>>163652208
wormholes have a time limit m8. be glad it didn't collapse right after you jumped through
>>
>>163652208
Probably wormholes collapsing on their own, then. Wormholes can die in one of two ways: Having their mass limit reached by players jumping through them, or simply having their time limit expire. You can see how much time a wormhole has left before it collapses by using Show Info.
>>
Went on a roam with some corpmates and blues, killed a 1.3b rattlesnake, then lost my pilgrim to a kronos.

Quality christmas eve content.
>>
>>163652621
sorry to hear that john. triple eanm a shit btw, and you should upgrade your tracking disruptors to t2
>>
>>163652798
wow r u a hacker?

Didn't have the CPU for t2s.
>>
>>163628525

Yeah they made drones have bounties instead of dronepoop as loot.
>>
>>163651490
vargur if youre doing the wrong
mach if youre doing them right
>>
>>163614393

This. 'fessor is so comfy.
>>
>>163610165

Not directly like with players, but I swear there are some mission battleship npc that have insane tanks, like Rachen. Those can be neuted/nos'd and their tank will eventually shut off.
>>
>>163652947

>what is a killboard
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>>163654225
>>
>>163654225
wow anon you're so smart!
>>
>special gift
>snowballs
thanks ccp
>>
>>163652621
How do you lose a ship with bonuses to range neuts to a very slow, sometimes immobile brawling battleship?
>>
>>163655467
He got a lucky volley off. He missed every shot for about a minute, his drones took out my shield before we killed them. Then he hit me with a volley while in bastion and it instapopped me.
>>
>>163655604
That's not my question.
Why would you be so close to him?
You have autistic range.
>>
Was in low sec killing rats when some fucker shows up to gank me. Showed him good, I ran away like a little bitch and surived.
>>
>>163656156
we had just jumped into the same wormhole. I was burning away but he had me scrammed so no mwd. It was my fault, but oh well.

Plus it was my first time in a pilgrim so wasn't really used to having huge range on neuts.
>>
>>163656165

Did you at least smacktalk to him in local how fucking terrible he is to not even manage to tackle you?
>>
Okay /vg/, I'm going to be getting into a carrier (thanatos), my first non-freighter capital, relatively soon. What do I need to know? Any fighters I should avoid? I've heard the dragonfly is significantly worse than the others.

Also, is there a guide to how fighters work anywhere? I know they can warp to follow you, but can you command them to warp somewhere off of your grid?
>>
>>163657431
practice flying your carrier on singularity first

enherjis are the fastest fighters = more damage applied sooner
keep 3 sirens to have tackle fighters

if you are in K-space 1 cyno and 3 fighter support units > 4 fighter support units

fighters no longer accept commands(except for recall fighters) when you are not on the same grid with them.
>>
>>163657685
>practice flying your carrier on singularity first
That was the plan. Sadly my account is deactivated on sisi for some reason and they aren't doing reactivations until mid january. But I'll definitely get practice in before I take the plunge.

>if you are in K-space 1 cyno and 3 fighter support units > 4 fighter support units
Wormhole space. I was gonna go with 4 support fighter units and the targeting array

>fighters no longer accept commands...
Alright. So they don't chase people who warp off anymore? Or did they never do that and I'm remembering something incorrectly.
>>
>>163657158
Nah I sent him a mail ":^)"

No reply yet
>>
>>163657891

Your reply will be in morse code, delivered by alternating missile and beam laser hits.
>>
>>163657863
since it's wormholes do 4 FSU or 3 FSU and a heavy nuet

the 4th FSU is only really giving you like 30 extra damage per volley i think.
>>
https://zkillboard.com/kill/58552770/

https://zkillboard.com/kill/58551979/
>>
>>163661081

AAAAAaaaaahhhhhhahahaha what incredible cheekiness.

Well played, you glorious bastards.
>>
>CODE in system
>want to afk mine, got things to do
what do
>>
>>163661742

Move to some quieter system.
>>
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Now that's just not fair.
>>
>>163661081
>industrial ships
what?
>>
what's the best system to go to if i want to get involved in caldari FW
>>
I'm completely new to T3D and pretty much noob all around.

All the Confessor fits I see leave me with about a 2.0 CPU deficit - I can't run all 4 lazorz.

Is there something I'm missing? I'm pretty sure I had all CPU relevant skills at V. Am I meant to cycle things off/online? I don't get it.
>>
>>163665582

Cpu +1% implant or a genolution set, anon.
>>
>>163665734

Shit, there's so many hardwires that I never even thought to look, thanks.
>>
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Ivan was not on his a-game today
>>
>>163666343
nobody cares faggot
>>
>more of my buy/sell orders were met in the early hours of christmas morning than in the entirety of last week
dude wut
>>
oneiros
>>
>>163668897
guardian
>>
>>163668897
>>163669440
Minokawa
>>
>fall for the pvp meme
>every single fight a guy has multiple friends uncloak

whoa...this truly is Fun And Exciting
>>
>>163669867
There is no such thing as a fair fight. Only losers complain about fairness.
>>
>>163670017
>dude i gotta make sure my zk is positive so my corp doesnt think im a loser
>>
>>163670061
>dude i'm a shitter and think the only form of pvp an mmo should have is a 1v1 arena
>>
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>"few" xD
>>
>>163671006
What rewards do you even get for completing these?
>>
>>163671449
ebin analysis kredits
i just do it sometimes while jumping for a while
>>
>>163671006
how do i get more than 1% accuracy on this
>>
>>163671735
stop clicking the wrong things
>>
>>163671485
It really is just another reskinned LP time sink? Another worthless alternate currency. One was bad enough. Good grief.
>>
>>163671869
Well you also get [your accuracy %]*1000 ISK for every attempt you make, and that can give you up to maybe 20m per hour if you're retarded enough to do it. I guess if you're auto piloting through high sec while in a rush for cash.
>>
...Really CCP? Snowballs and a single skin is the big present?
>>
>do the 10 caldari industry and business career missions
>gallente and minmatar hate you now

Are missions a meme or something? When do I have to start worrying about standing?
>>
>>163672945
never if you dont want to hang out with lesser beings
>>
>>163673008

This, pretty much. Pick an empire and stick to it (Caldari is best).
>>
>>163673008
>>163673109
But I want to be able to travel around without hassle.
>>
>>163673162
Stay above -5 standing and it won't matter.
>>
So I trained infomorph psychology and got myself a jump clone.
I don't wanna fuck up and end up losing all my implants, how to clone jump properly?
Trying to go from the same station to the same station if that makes any difference.
>>
>>163671006
>97.7
jesus christ
>>
Is there any reason to do the Career Missions over just immediately going and doing Level 1 Security for SoE if I'm new and want to start by missioning?

I already have a decent ship and around 20M SP, just never actually played the game at all other than flipping and training skills.
>>
>>163671449
you are helping le black science man! Le science! It's a reward in itself! SCIENCE! xDxdxdxdxd xXD Xd
>>
>>163675456
The career missions take like an hour to do. All of them. And you get like 4 ships for your trouble + standings boost. So its up to you.
>>
>>163675456
career missions give you free ships, books and try to give you some basic knowledge of the game, so if you never played the game you should do them
>>
>>163675523
>>163675563

The only thing that puts me off doing them is one of them seems to suggest its going to pod me. I don't really want to have to jump clone and take a shitty ship just because I'm going to get btfo'd by a script.

Do you actually get podded or does it just spook you?
>>
>>163675738
You get podded in the main tutorial. But I dont remember anything like that going on in the career missions. Someone correct me if I am wrong.
>>
>>163675738
you don't get podded in a career mission, you get podded during the tutorial. If you haven't done it it was added after you created your character.
Career missions are 100% safe.
>>
>>163675738
if you really are that paranoid you can create a different character and blitz through all the missions to check them. You are getting an alt so you are not really losing anything.
>>
someone make the new thread
>>
>>163676326
no
>>
oh we are at 772 wtf make a new thread faggots, i would but not on my pc and don't have the meme pictures
DO IT
>>
rip thread
>>
>>163528369
Some PH guy in a rorqual got sick and had to afk, the other PH guys destroyed his ship and looted him.

Also their comms are complete shit I heard.
>>
New thread:

>>163677472
>>
new thread

>>163677485
>>163677485
>>163677485
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>>163677507
reported for spam
hope you get banned on christmas day senpai
>>
>>163677576
retard
>>
>>163677661
>retard

>makes a thread after someone else did

kill yourself in front of your family today
>>
>>163677696
I'm not f5ing this shit you little weeb shit, and I asked you to make a thread and you said no, so don't blame me for having 2 threads now.
>>
>>163677824
>weeb shit

Are you retarded?
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