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Pre-Christmas edition

Freezed over >>163439578


>Character Planner
https://www.mugenmonkey.com/

>DARK SOULS 3
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1u8Mak1goSv4g73g16XsWV4sJelDQUatWkP2kcO6GVAA/pub

>DARK SOULS 2
http://pastebin.com/CAx8Yc8v

>DARK SOULS
http://pastebin.com/eNY3su63

>DEMON'S SOULS
http://pastebin.com/RjpF5s7a

>BLOODBORNE
http://pastebin.com/WdLBWD8n

>Community & Fanart
http://pastebin.com/vVWz9pJm
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Is there just like no activity going on for help on bosses in Ariandel or is my shit fucked?
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>>163515138
These aren't peak hours, anon, and your SL may be way off. Or it might be something as dumb as you forgetting you had a password enabled.
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DaS1 > DaS3 > DS > BB > shitty attempt at a DaS1 sequel with "souls" in the title

if you enjoy that piece of rotten garbage unironically please proceed to kill yourself.
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>>163515367
(you)
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>>163515367
DaS1 > DeS >=BB >DaS3 > > > > > DaS2
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>>163515367
>BB not better than Demon's or DaS3

Honestly DaS3 was pretty disappointing, spent way too much time rolling around in DaS1 stuff. Didn't like it when DaS2 did it and they just turned it up to 11 in 3.
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Reminder that DS2 is a good game because it has Smelter sword + curved nil sword powerstance, it has dual smelter sword powerstance and it has the iron king hammer
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Did DaS 2 have a level with the atmosphere comparable to Tower of Latria?

For the sake of fairness you can imagine the level has the beta version lighting.
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What's a fun cosplay? I don't know how accurate using a bow is when cosplaying Lucatiel, but I'm having fun all the same with a Black bow/hollowslayer build
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>>163515775
>For the sake of fairness
DaS2 shitters are hilariously delusional. For the sake of fairness, you base impressions on what was actually released, not your made-up BS.
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>>163515821
It's Christmas. Do an Outrider Knight and freeze people!
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>>163515821
pure bow pvp is surprisingly fun, do a pharris cosplay, pharris can be both a male or female, it's pretty much a title that gets passed along instead of a name
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>>163515878
>>163515943
I don't pvp
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>>163515275
what's an appropriate sl range?
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>>163515821
Be a witch
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>>163516145
Already got one
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>>163516070
80 is the average, but it's super active at 120 as well.
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>>163515775
>Did DaS 2 have a level with the atmosphere comparable to Tower of Latria?
No.
It's all shitty, washed up levels with almost complete lack of ambience that makes real souls games so atmospheric.
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>>163516070
Around level 100
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>>163515821
>What's a fun cosplay?
MILLWOOD KNIGHT NIGGA
Literally the funniest and comfiest cosplay in series.
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>>163516598
sup
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>>163516618
Already got that too. Man I've put in over 500 hours into this game, I feel like there's nothing left to do
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>out of country for a week
>open thread for first time since I got back
>people still ranting about das2
really makes you think
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>>163516070
it should be around 80 - 90, that'd be an "appropiate" SL meta both for pve and pvp, but the imposed SL for literally everything is 120 - 125.

if we had lets say a 70 - 80 level cap it would give other unused and now useless builds a chance to shine, since a quality 40/40 is effective in both pve and pvp with almost no cons at all for the player at 120 and therefore has become the norm.
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Cute.
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>>163517293
Are you the same guy posting cute in every thread?
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>>163517392

There's at least one another Anon who does too.
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>>163517049
No, it wouldn't. Quality would have an overwhelming advantage at level 80.
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>>163517549
Are you the cute anon I gave my cookie recipe to?
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>DS3
>best sorcery staff scales with faith
THANKS FROMSOFT
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>>163517836

No, that's not me. I thought I had it saved, but I can't find it anywhere.
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found this old pic, thought I lost it but then I remembered I used it as an avatar on github. Is there a collection of these drawings somewhere? google reverse search didn't help
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>>163518152
>>163517836

Found it, do you mean this one?
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>>163518231
>>163518152
Lol yeah that's the anon
I actually just wanted to link the other cute posting anon to my souls art folder and have him pick and choose out all the cute from it if he wanted
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>>163518229

Here you go!
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>>163518669
thanks man!
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>>163518669
Honestly those bosses don't deserve the effort that went into this pic.
Is there a DS3 version?
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What did Anor londo look like when it was thriving?
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>>163519521
It looks like it's now except more people walking around.
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>>163519521
A city full of rich nobility and distant relatives of the gods.
Paintings in anor londo castle show some of them, it seems.
Probably wasn't as cold and unwelcoming as Irithyll.
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>>163515775
>implying any spiritualsequel had a level with atmosphere as thick as latria
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>>163519770
Research Hall.
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>>163519521
probably like this
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>>163519807
Um, what cathedral is this?
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>>163520070
The duomo in Milan
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>>163520070
Milan Cathedral, in the Piazza del Duomo.
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Praise the sun /dsg/
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>>163520394
Is that the Nameless King's face in the lower right?
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>>163520394
>tfw getting hatemail by invaders because I'm invincible while praying to this broken statue
good times mang, good times
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>>163520436
I guess Dark Souls 3 confirmed this, so yes, yes it is
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>>163520436
was this face on ds1's statue?
if yes, it's him
if no, it's just a ds2 fanfiction
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what's your opinion on armor damage reduction being pretty much useless? should armor provide protection significantly? what would you change for it to become viable and relevant and not a fashion matter?
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>>163520819
>what's your opinion on armor damage reduction being pretty much useless
25% damage reduction in pvp is far from useless. From was absolutely right in not allowing to stack super high values in pvp, it was retarded in early DS2, it would be equally retarded here. Right now the only thing DS3 heavy armor needs is better investment/return ratio from vitality. Make it at least 1.5 point per point of vitality, it will help both fast rolling light builds and heavy armored knights, right now both of those are kinda under-represented and everyone just goes with medium armor.
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i took a two month break after starting ashes of ariandel and now i'm lost af

only boss i found was the gravetender, but i feel i explored quite a lot, i unlocked the shortcut around that bitch that lays on the table but that whole area seems to lead nowhere

help me dsg you are my only hope
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>>163520819
well, it's pretty much only useless in DS3, armor was pretty effective in DS1/2.
they should just go back to making real heavy armor have good physical defense but shit elemental/magic defenses, and light armor having good elemental/magic defense but shit physical.

They shouldn't go overboard like in DS2, allowing to have armor combos effectively nullifying all damage for a certain element. but you know, balancing like that is pretty hard and takes a long time, so we'll never see this happen

end of blog, pls subscribe and follow
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>>163520819
I agree that there should be a definite incentive to taking heavy armor and a greatshield. As it stands right now the majority of equipment in the game simply can't compete with the chosen few DEX/quality weapons and armor light enough to suit those min/maxed builds. Not that I have any idea how it SHOULD be balanced. I just think that it's the goal.
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>>163520819
>what would you change for it to become viable and relevant

Make the different resistances more pronounced.
For example, plate armor would improve resistance toward slashing type of damage a great deal and cause durability damage to slashy weapons faster, but as a downside would be weak against blunt and only offer mediocre protection against piercing damage.

With light / padded armors they would provide more protection against blunt and maybe even piercing, but be weak to slash and also get torn up by that.

Armor should be able to get upgraded and "infused".

Armor infusions are either "heavy" or "mobility". The former adds protection in cost of increased weight and stamina regen penalty and the latter shaves off protection but with decreased stamina regen penalties and weight.
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>>163521040
The zone past the painting girl is the progression route. Keep trying to climb the mountain.
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Friendly reminder that if you spam fireballs or soulspears in other players backs while they're fighting other then you should kill yourself
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HOLY SHIT
I DID IT, I ACTUALLY DID IT

I ALMOST HAD MY WEAPONS BREAK!

when encountering a new area, I always clear all enemies I encounter, activate bonfires but don't sit down so they respawn, once all enemies are cleared I retrace my steps and look for any missed treasure.

I actually had to use a repair powder when exploring smouldering lake.
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>>163521190
git gud

That shit is so easy to dodge that they don't really have much choice other than to play support.
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>>163520136
>>163520205
Thanks friends
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>>163521326
Its easy to dodge but when you're fighting their teammate and to magic buttbuddies come spamming then how am I supposed to dodge.
Also those people don't fight anyone they just wait until their teammate almost kills someone and then finish them off.
Whats so fun about that?
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>>163521190
nigger rolls cost like 0 stamina, manage your stamina so you're always ready to dodge
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>>163521424
Same thing that is fun about playing support in any game.
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Rather than the generic halberd 1h r1 moveset, Gundyr's Halberd should have has a r1 thrust attack. Prove me wrong
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>>163521127
ohh thanks, i have no idea how i missed that big cave entrance

why did it have to be flies
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>>163521835
this would make the already best halberd incredibly overpowered
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>>163521929
Firstly, this isn't the only weapon I'd improve and in order to balance it out, I'd rather improve other weapons than make this one shit. Secondly, what overwhelming OP advantage does a one handed r1 thrust give?
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>>163522047
gundyr's halberd is a single-stat weapon reaching the damage of quality halberds
if it had all the best halberd attacks at once as well (thrust 1hr1, overhead 2hr1) it would make the rest of the class completely irrelevant
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Loo Cee Furry
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>>163521127
>>163521887
is this the wrong place though

now i'm back at the chapel with the frigid bitch and now the cripple girl is sitting in the attic
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>>163522250
No, it's the right place

you missed a lever in the fly room that opens the door to the final boss
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>>163522115
BKGS is better damage with a better moveset and it's lighter. This change to Gundys would put it on par with BKGS
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>>163522332
FUCK i saw the lever too
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>>163522389
yea but for the BKGS launch combo you need to be real close, while the gundyr charge provides way more utility since you're so mobile during the charge. Both weapons are really really good, but when looking at halberds gundyr's is already toptier, no need to bump it even further from the rest
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>>163522450
there's also an illusory wall in the room with flies leading outside to super sikrit area
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>>163521835
Movesets?
On halberds? Or any weapon that even fucking looks like an axe?
In Dark Souls 3?
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>>163522389
>BKGS is better damage
gundyr's halberd reaches 539 AR in 2h with 66STR, it's 26AR more than BKG
>better moveset
charge of gundyr's glaive is incredibly versatile, much more useful overall than a simple combo extender of BKG that was nerfed on top of it

you also forgot to mention that it's longer than BKG
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>>163522490
It's upper mid tier, with BKGS at top tier. The fact that the boss has a thrust attack and the only thing to sggest gundyrs is a bos's weapon is a WA is bullshit. At least give it a unique thrust attack.
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>>163522704
>It's upper mid tier
itt: retards who never should talk about tier lists
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...


...why, tho?
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>>163522703
>539 AR in 2h with 66STR, it's 26AR more than BKG
They scale differently, what do you expect? But for correct stat investment, a similar ammount has BKGS dealing more damage
>charge of gundyr's glaive is incredibly versatile, much more useful overall than a simple combo extender
I think the charge is a neat move but not enough to carry the weapon alone.

>>163522762
>itt: retards who should nevertalk about other retards who should never talk about tier lists
Fuck outta here
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>>163522525
oh nice that's where you fought priscilla, thanks senpai
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Just got done watching Dist do a playthrough as a giant. How does that work?
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>>163522704
halberds are boring turtle weapons. to make it match gundyr's high pressure rushdown style would require giving it an entirely unique moveset.
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>>163523282
>But for correct stat investment, a similar ammount has BKGS dealing more damage
it's 66/15STR/DEX versus 40/40, even at 65/15 it will deal more than BKG with the same amount of stat points needed
>not enough to carry the weapon alone
well it's a good thing that it's not the only strong point of gundyr's glaive
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>>163523405
>fought
get out
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STOP CALLING A GLAIVE A GREATSWORD RETARDS
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>>163523621
fought, cut off the tail and killed, yes anon

furries leave
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>>163523621
>not slaying the filthy crossbred slut
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>>163522704
on the bright side, there's an unused animation for the player to do the gundyr kick, it might be added to the weapon next DLC. Just like there's an unused alternative weaponart for the farron greatsword with a stance
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>>163523797
>>163523808
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>>163523525
That is kind of what I'm proposing.
>>163523526
> 66/15STR/DEX
518 AR gundyrs. BKG has 513 at 40/40. gundyrs edges out, I'll give you that
>well it's a good thing that it's not the only strong point of gundyr's glaive
It's not outstanding though. Even at 40/40, the red hilted halberd has comparable damage and has the thrust attack you think is so OP
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>>163521246
That's what you get for using a katana.
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>>163523957
>518 AR gundyrs
the only thing that matters is 2h damage and gundyrs especially excels at that
>red hilted halberd has comparable damage
red hilted is used completely differently and should not be compared to glaives
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>>163515775
>comparable to Tower of Latria
No not even close, but that goes for all the titles in the series. The Gutter is the next best thing though. Beats Bligh Town by a longshot.
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>>163523959
sellsword twinblades, but yeah, double hits means double durability loss
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>>163524086
>the only thing that matters is 2h damage
518AR is 2h damage
They're all halberds bruv. The only difference is the WA and the thrust, and I'm proposing a thrust for gundyrs. It's perfectly reasonable to include them into the conversation.
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Oh my gentle jason bourne what has science done.
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what's the best miracle casting tool in das3? inb4 miracles suck
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DaS1 is fucking garbo.
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>>163524598
not really, it just feels clunky compared to the later instalments, but is still a solid game
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>>163524627
A solid game wouldn't have a completely useless trap stat that ruins you character for eternity thanks to no respec.
You're wrong.
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Is the dark souls 3 game still lively on PC? I wanted to do some sort of like "forge master" cosplay thing. Is that possible? It's been awhile since I played.
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>>163515113
Guys when should I be starting the DLC on dark souls 1? I've just looked up how to start it by killing the ice gollum and getting the pendant etc etc. I already have the lord vessel, is it too late for me to start the DLC? also is this the only dlc for souls 1?
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>>163524275
>518AR is 2h damage
no, at 66STR it's not
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>>163525192
It is according to mugen monkey, bud.
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I want vaati to fuck me up the ass while whispering dark souls lore into my ears
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>>163525159
>I've just looked up how to start it

Casual/10.

You're already at the endgame by the time you can even enter the DLC so go for it whenever you want. And yes, AotA is the only DS1 DLC.
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>>163525159
Any time from when you've placed the Lordvessel to before killing Gwyn is fine. It might hurt your ass a bit if you go straight there from O&S, but it won't be impossible.
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What's better, Lothric knight GS or Cathedral knight GS? at 50/50 there's exactly 100 ar difference between them, but how much of that will I lose considering the lightning phys split damage?
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>>163525526
cathedral is garbage if you want a good ugs go profanedor black knight
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>>163525627
But wouldn't either one of those out damage profaned, if you use papers?
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>>163517991
But the Sage Staff scales with int anon. And it's one of the best looking staffs.
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>>163525526

>50/50
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>>163526320
Jokes on you, I'm too poor for PSN
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>>163524598
I wouldn't go that far, but DaS1 have tons of flaws.

>Boulder trap rehash right off the bat
>Oscar hollowing when he does makes no sense and you can fight him while both he and you are wearing his armor
>Asylum Demon is a Vanguard Demon rehash and you fight 3 variations
>Things have to be explained away with convoluted time
>Kaathe's actions make little sense since the flame's already dying and Gwyndolin is a much greater threat to his plans than Gwyn, especially since Gwyn tries to kill anyone who enters the kiln
>END is a superstat that makes you better at everything and RES is a shit stat that's not good for anything
>Shields break the game
>Poise can break the game with little effort
>PvP devolved into crit fishing
>Infinites that have to be toggled out of
>No teleporting until after S&O, can't teleport to every fire
>Easy as fuck after your first play-through because you understand humanity and kindling and can get the rite early

Despite the improvements to the combat and muh interconnected world I enjoyed Demon's Souls way more.
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>>163525780
I haven't done the specific tests on the same target to find which one does most damage, but I played a lot of arena duels and between lothric knight's, lorian's and profaned the damage is not all that different. Profaned gets 80 fire dmg buff when you use WA for 45 sec. Also charged R2 adds like 50 dmg to the attack (which stacks with the weapon art buff). It is the king of horizontal ugs, highest physical damage, lighter than most and charged attacks eat less stamina than other ultras. also best looking
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>>163526631
Don't forget all those horrible dead ends before warping. Good level design my ass.
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>>163526746
>also best looking
Have to disagree here, no armor set goes with it
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>>163527145
>t

Everything goes well with Profaned
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>>163527145

Leonhardt's Garb, Jailer Gloves, Mirrah Trousers, Pharis Hat. That looks amazing with the Profaned UGS.
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>>163525371
>>163525421
>Casual/10.

Tell me you're joking. How the hell is anyone supposed to know what to do? this is my first ever run and I just realized that i'm pretty far and my ps3 disc comes with the dlc. Cheers for the advice both of you ;).
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'm new to dark souls, just bought DaS1, what am I in store for?

yes, i'm a newfag
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>>163527074
>Kill Quelaag
>Have to run all the way back to Sen's because gold fog and no teleports

I'd forgotten about that.
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>>163527074
>>163527882
>they can't kill Quelaag without resting anywhere between her and the parish bonfire

Casuals
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>>163527831
Make sure to level up your resistance. There's an area in the middle of the game where you're very likely to get poisoned, and having poison resistance helps a lot.
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>>163527831
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>>163527831
A very fun game, and the first step in to a series that's pretty consistently fantastic.
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>>163528082

>first step
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>>163527831
Remember to use your materials to upgrade armor before leveling up or upgrading weapons. It helps you survive a lot
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>>163525526
Lothric ugs has better moveset, wa and it can be buffed with lightning resin for more damage that could be potentially better than pure physical weapons. Cathedral ugs is terrible in a already mediocre weapon class.
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Item swapping estus upgrades any safe? Please help.
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>>163528145
What are you suggesting? That there was a Souls game before Dark Souls? King's Field doesn't count, you know.
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>>163528145
>demon's souls is part of the dark souls series

???????????????????????
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>>163527145
It is totally the best looking ugs. 2nd fav Ugs desgin wise is Astoras i know it looks so plain but thats what gives its appeal
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>>163528145
For most people it probably was, DeS still has fewer than half the sales of Dark Souls 1.
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>>163525159
you could do the Lord Souls bosses first because the DLC is the best content of DS1 in terms of bosses.
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>>163523621

CUTE
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>>163529074
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>>163527831
Holy fuck you're getting rekt, don't listen to what anybody said except this guy >>163528063
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>>163527831
so i just popped in the agme, I'm at the part where you can enter the light or some shit, anyways
is parrying broken in this game or am i just dumb
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>>163527074
>>163527882
>>163527985
>not using a homeward bone
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>>163529638
You're dumb, parrying is exceptionally easy in that game
Go into the light
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>>163527882
Nothing beats going all the way down to the Tomb of Giants pisswall, because that fucker at the start said there would be a bell down below.
Reverse Blighttown and Ashlake are bad as well.
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>>163529638
The game is very awkward but you will get used to it, unless you give up first. kill shit, gain souls and level up at the bonfire while you get a hang of things.
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>>163528192
Help.
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>>163529685
If you actually played the damn game, you would know that you only get transported back to the last bonfire you rested at, which is usually at the end of the dead end.
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>>163529864
>run to quelaag by skipping blighttown
>kill her
>bone out back to Andre's because you are pro and didn't rest or waste estus and you rang the bell without sitting down at the dead end
downside is you gotta make the trip again post lordvessel
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>>163529737
That's actually what I did the first time I played the game, I had to git real fuckin' gud to fight my way out of there at a low level. I had nightmares about that giant skeleton casket for weeks. I'm definitely with you on Ash Lake too, it looks cool and it's neat how you have to descend through the great hollow to reach it but it's awful in every other way.
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>>163526631
>No teleporting until after S&O, can't teleport to every fire

This is the inherent strength of the game. It makes the shortcuts actually matter. Navigating the game world goes really fast if you know what you're doing.

>>163527882
>go via elevator to New Londo
>walk 5 m
>go via elevator to Firelink
>walk 12m
>go via elevator to Undead Parish

Wooooooooooooooooooooooooooooowwww, so hard!
Maybe you'll enjoy Casual Souls 2 and 3 more.
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>>163526631
>No teleporting until after S&O, can't teleport to every fire
I actually think this is a positive, but I guess thats just me
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>>163529864
I don't remember well anon, I have only one playthrough and it was years ago
But you made me remember that I tried using one, and got teleported to that bonfire in a little cave, it took me more than an hour to get out of this damn place
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>>163530324
t. triggered DaSbabby
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>>163529864
>kill Quelaag
>don't get a homeward bone from her, unlike almost every boss you've fought up to that point
>ring bell
>see cutscene where Sen's Fortress is opened
>receive homeward bone now
>"clearly I'm supposed to keep moving forward, this is definitely where I'm supposed to go next and not the place I just saw open up in a fucking cutscene"
Why is almost every complaint about Dark Souls 1 made by fucking retards who can't figure out anything for themselves?
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>>163530393
>DaSbabby
>says the person who enjoys the casualshit games
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>>163529864

I wonder why they took this out in 2 and 3. Sometimes I want to light the bonfire, but don't want to return to it by using a Homeward Bone.
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>>163530437
because people that play video games tend to be retarded, or children, or retarded children
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Im enjoying DaS2 softs so much i bought the deluxe edition for DaS3, I hated it at first but im glad i played it the second time once you get used to the skill cap its pretty fun and rewarding.
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>>163530470
>B-but other games!
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>>163530191
>run to quelaag
>pro
>not literally falling from the skies into her house
https://youtu.be/Wao65FyfHBw?t=36m27s
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>it's another "red is trying to honor duel a phantom and when I come in to fight he turns around a 1v3's me" episode

Getting real fucking sick of this muh honor in invasions shit... we have an arena. We have pontiff. If this is what you want, there are places for you.

I didn't come here for a no chugging honor duel motherfucker, especially against a host where I'm at a health disadvantage from the start. I came here for a no-holds-barred backstabbing donkey punching shitfest. And yes, don't think I'm above murdering you and you specifically ignoring everyone else until you're dead, because I'm not. I'll show you just how much I think about your honor when I whip out my twink gear and rape you to death.
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How do you fight poise great swords as a casual longsword r1 spammer?
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>>163530324
>Navigating the game world goes really fast if you know what you're doing.
Not really, the character runs really slow and shit just adds up. At least they added a warp to andre after a long time. Upgrading shit used to be a fucking pain. Buying green blossoms is still shit.
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>>163530324
Getting to some parts is a hassle. Like Vamos, or the fact the only bofire you can warp to if you want to explore ruins/izalith is daughter of chaos.

Some don't add anything to the game, like not warping to the darkroot bonfire. You just run through 4 enemies you kill in a few hits because you can't go there directly, no shortcuts or tricks involved.

There's no reason you shouldn't be allowed to warp to every bonfire you find post lordvessel
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>>163530724
Wait until they wind up and strike once and dodge, straight swords are fast enough that you can straight up bullshit most greatweapons once you've got distance and timing down.
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>>163530669
And I came here to make people unhappy with the game. Guess it worked on you
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>>163530327
Nope
I loved that actually
Made it feel like an actual trek and home was far away, especially after the batwing demons bring you up to anor londo for the first time holy fuck
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>>163530437
Good job defending your precious game that's supposed to be about exploring a perfectly designed interconnected world.
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>>163530567
>ds2
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>>163530724
>doing anything other than
>roll behind
>poke in ass
>roll away
>repeat
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>>163530324
>Navigating the game world goes really fast if you know what you're doing.
And yet by your own estimation the trek from Quelaag to the Parish takes about 20 minutes.
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>>163530745
>character runs really slow
lmao just run around naked

>Upgrading shit used to be a pain
You can upgrade at the bonfire

>>163530828
I dunno, I like navigating the environments instead of the only gameplay being direct progress.

but I guess the casualfags won since das2 and 3 have bonfires everywhere so people could be babied into beating these "hard" games without having to put any effort into it
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>>163531209
I didn't say anything about 20 minutes.
You can do that in 7 minutes roughly.
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>>163531275
>warp to parish bonfire
>kill 4 poiseless enemies that hardly scratch me
>reach another bonfire

Explain how this adds anything to the gameplay instead of wasting time
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Steam is down, can I still play online on PC?
DS2 SotFS if that matters.
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>>163531275
Are you literally incapable of formulating an argument that doesn't revolve around calling people who disagree with you casual?

Bloodborne has teleporting from the start, is it casual? Is Demon's Souls casual too?
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>>163531013
>>163530327
So you're a pve babby that played the game only once. Got it.
It would be different if they changed up encounters, like black phantoms or invaders after killing the boss, but it's always the same shit.
DaS1 is a boring snoozefest.
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>>163531569
On newer playthroughs you can just speedrun to lordvessel
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>>163531395
The game ought to tell you whether or not it can access online features at the main menu.
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>>163531395
all DaS rely on steam servers to work online so I would say no
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>>163531275
>lmao just run around naked
It's still the slowest movement in the series.
>You can upgrade at the bonfire
You need specific blacksmiths for +5 and +10.
Put your trip back on, Luce.
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>>163530917

It's not unhappy, it's just... lame. It's a different feeling. It's like the feeling when you ordered a happy meal and they forgot your fries. It's just kind of a "meh... well that's lame" sorta feeling. I'm not experience anger or any kind of strong emotions it's just... lame. I don't know what word fits better than lame for these sorts of experiencing. Same feeling I get when a cheater shows up and is flying all around or cursing people, I'm not mad or upset it's just lame like "oh... okay... well guess you win with your cheats, congrats I guess?"

But you're probably right, thinking about it now I was probably wrongfully imposing my own rules of invasions on other people. Next time I see what looks like an honor duel between an invader and a host/phantom, I won't run in. I'll pull out my millwood greatbow and obscuring ring, because fuck you.
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>>163531034
Good job still being completely retarded a third of the way into the game. If you rest at the bonfires past Quelaag, that's your own damn fault. The game makes it ridiculously obvious what you're supposed to do next after ringing the bell, and if you use the bone when it's given to you, you'll go back to the bonfire right next to the shortcut out of Blighttown that takes you to Firelink, and then Parish is just a short elevator ride from there. Dark Souls just isn't a game for braindead idiots that don't pay attention to anything.
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>>163530906

I've fought your kind before friend, and you're getting parried trying to pull shit like that, guaranteed.
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>>163532054
>GS/Ultras 1h against a SS

You have already lost
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>>163532191
t. letofski
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>>163532054
>you're getting parried trying to pull shit like that, guaranteed.

That's a pretty shitty guarantee considering that I've never been parried while doing that. Also, since when can people cancel their own swing with a parry?
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>>163532201
>>163532317

>not being able to switch between 1H and 2H on the fly with literally the press of a button

I knew /dsg/ was full of shitters but this is getting ridiculous...

>I've never been parried while doing that

You probably play against bad players, i.e. most of the player base, and either just coincidentally "forget" the times you got rekt or, more likely, you'd just never admit to getting rekt on an anonymous origami billboard because why would you?
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>>163531969
>The game makes it ridiculously obvious that it's just one big hallway and completely shits itself when you try to break out of it.
It's my own fault that I got rused by dastards, that's for sure.
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>>163532750
>not being able to switch between 1H and 2H on the fly with literally the press of a button

According to what?

I'll ask again, since when can people cancel their own swing with a parry?
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>>163531569
>So you're a pve babby that played the game only once
>implying implications
nigga I got gud, only activated bonfires where needed and made good use of homeward bones
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>>163532750
Show us a webm of you swapping in time to parry a SS r1. The animation is too long to do so.
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>>163517049
I fucking -HATE- Soulsfags who refer to previous games in the series when trying to decide on a meta level.

I even remember when people were trying to choose the new meta for DaS3. Why the fuck did people settle on a homogeneous, overleveled as fuck piece of a shit SL? Wouldn't it behoove the community to choose an SL that's simultaneously high enough for PVP but low enough for PVE?
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>>163533138
Seems more like you have no life.
DaS1 just wastes time with this shit, that's why they got rid of it in all the other games in the series.
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>>163533879
I have never finished any souls game at meta SL, except 2 and only after all the DLCs.
The meta in all other games is much higher than most players end the game at
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>>163533064

I never said anything about canceling a swing, but with proper spacing and unpredictably moving between the 1H and 2H movesets with both R1's and R2's, if some SS faggot is making it obvious he's constantly doing the same predictable counterattack over and over, it's easy to punish that with a parry just like you'd punish any other predictable attack. I mean yeah if you have some guy who's just going to stubbornly keep doing the same staggered R1 shit when it's not working then sure, but then you're playing against a bad predictable player without any versatility.

>>163533219

I'm not a webm/recordingfag, but if you have enough space you can do it. If the person is really aggressive and predictably doing the same thing trying to hit between hits over and over again I'd probably get them used to the 2H moveset and switch to 1H'ing it when they least expected it, purposefully whiff 1-2 1HR1's and then parry his counterattack when he's used to that strategy already.

2HR1 into 1H parry would probably be done when you've backpeddled enough to purposefully whiff an R1 with enough space to parry what will likely either be a running or rolling R1 attack. It's just another technique in the toolbox of ways you can bait people into predictable, parriable attacks. Main problem is you two are probably assuming perfect top level play all the time in an honor duel, which is just unrealistic.
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>>163533990
Because retards can't into "choices" or "trade offs"

If you aren't at the softcap for more than 2-3 stats, they consider the build to be "weak" or "incomplete"
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>>163533879
I have never finished any souls game at meta SL, except 2 and only after all the DLCs.
The meta in all other games is much higher than most players end the game at>>163533997
>Main problem is you two are probably assuming perfect top level play all the time in an honor duel, which is just unrealistic.
And you're assuming top play from the ultra user while the SS guy is very predicatable
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>>163533934
Dark Souls was a niche game that wasn't designed for the lowest common denominator of casual faggot. Go back to DS2 and 3, those games were made for you.
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>>163534335
>4chan copied over my past post

What the fuck
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>>163534335
>the ultra user

I thought we were talking about GS's here?

>How do you fight poise great swords

He didn't say poise ultra greatswords...
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>>163533997
>I never said anything about canceling a swing

Well considering that I recommended that the first person wait until his opponent starts swinging before attacking I can't imagine what the hell else you could've possibly meant. Playing defensively (i.e. in a safe manner that makes it unlikely that you'll get hit or parried) with a faster weapon isn't much fun but it's pretty much a guaranteed win and even if he doesn't take my exact approach the theory behind it is solid and carries over to pretty much everything that isn't a greatweapon.

Maybe try reading posts before you decide to cunt up the place with your misplaced condescension you stupid fuck.

>you two are probably assuming perfect top level play

Well that's a far fucking cry from "hurr durr ur no good and neither is anyone you play."
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>>163534342
>Dark Souls was a niche game that wasn't designed for the lowest common denominator of casual faggot.
>MFW Dark Souls is literally casualized Demon's Souls and marks the spot where the series went mainstream
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>>163534342
Prepare to die, haha! So hardcore
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>>163534335

I'm not, I'm assuming average play based on what I run into when invading every day for the past 3 or 4 months at different SL's. Dueling is incredibly boring and even there, most people are not like Jund or whoever other metalord you want to pick out.

Honestly if you want to talk about top-level play specifically in honor duels, parrying is generally considered completely ineffective because it's very easy to play around it and punish it. If you've ever watched top level japanese fight club streams you'll see most people are using a BK shield or better WA shield with high stability with a straight sword or greatsword, they aren't even bothering with parrying because you literally will never parry a high level player who actually knows what he's doing. Same reason jund only used an offhand caestus for the free HP regen because he always fought people assuming they were top-tier players even if they weren't, and knew no top-tier player would ever get parried because they don't play predictably.
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>>163534342
>Dark Souls was a niche game that wasn't designed
Glad we agree.
>Go back to DS2 and 3.
3 is 1 tier trash. 2 is good just by the merit of making miyasucky fans mad.
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>>163534832
>Dark Souls is literally casualized Demon's Souls
So where's Second Chance and the numerous stacks of instant-use healing items in Dark Souls, then?
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>>163535210
>Second Chance

Replaced with poise and shields that you can hide behind forever.

>healing items

Humanities and double digit estus from the start.
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>openly admits to use cheat engine to kill himself when his shitty build doesn't work
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>>163535210
Where's hp reduction if you die in human form in DaS1?
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>>163534664

I mean... I'm not cunting up the place and we're pretty much in agreement actually, the main point I was making was that there isn't some easy simple solution to countering most shit and predictability is a killer. At best, trying to manuever between hits and playing passively is a tool to use but if you keep doing the same move over and over again and nothing else, a good player will punish that. Likewise a good player will notice what you're trying to do and will switch things up accordingly instead of doing the same failed strategy over and over again, and potentially switch back at some point to their old strategy depending on how the situation is unfolding, this is especially true in invasions.

The real trick would be to have that strategy but also do other shit, sometimes run at the guy and just dodge his attacks and don't even swing at him, sometimes run in like you're going to do a running attack then roll backwards, sometimes purposefully whiff attacks and try for a parry, sometimes switch to an offhand xbow and fire off a round before switching back to 2 handing or your offhand parry tool, maybe switch to your secondary mainhand weapon and then back again, etc. It's just that most players in all honesty will play very predictably at pretty much any SL, especially if they have the confidence of being part of a gank with no FF.

tl;dr I agree that's a good strategy for dealing with GS's if you're good enough to pull it off with the timing, but above all else don't play predictably or you're probably going to get punished. Make that a tool and your toolbox of all the other strategies you can use to beat people instead of "okay literally all I'm going to do is this one thing over and over". That's all I'm saying.
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>>163535515
How did you think he makes so many videos? He made a post on plebbit about getting caught out by the recent ban wave, too. I don't think a single content creator has ever tried to hide the fact that they use CE.
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>>163535157
Holy shit guys look. Another edgy contrarian.
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Just so I can know for future reference: is this CE shit or can you legitimately somehow use the poise HA of the Great Club to parry the 2nd R1 of a SS after getting hit with the first, instead of parrying the 3rd hit?

I mean I thought it was literally impossible to get hit with the first SS R1 and parry the 2nd, need to know if this is something I need to be careful with in the future or if it's just CE shit. Like, a greathammer swing giving your parry tool poise it looks like.
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>>163536437
He poised through your first hit and parried your second
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cant log into dasthird server?
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>>163536561
Steam's been down all morning, but it just came back up. Restart Steam.
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>>163535210
Poisehealing with almost 200 easily farmable humanities, m8.
Not to mention easily dupable blessings.
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>>163536505
Literally never seen that before but looks like it'd be very effective for parry focused strategies if you know how to use it to basically R1 L2 people.
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So I am playing dark souls for the first time.

Started with dark souls 2, scholar of the first sin.

Anyway I started as a Cleric, and for gift I choose some 18 healing things.

I accidentally used 3 of them when trying to figure out the controls.

Is that a big deal? Will I get them back?
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>>163536894
yes
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>>163536437
>all these item bags

I don't get it
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>>163536894
Yes. Soon you'll be buying 99 at a time and popping them like candy.
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>>163535695
>I'm not cunting up the place

Oh yes you absolutely are. From your very first post you've been pic related.

>the main point I was making was that there isn't some easy simple solution to countering most shit

We're not talking about countering most shit, we're talking about countering greatswords with straight swords and I offered up a strategy that's worked well for me and you pretty much just came at me with "nuh uh."

>don't play predictably or you're probably going to get punished

What a revelation, truly it's an honor to be in the same general as the one person on the planet who knows how to play video games.
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>>163537052
Some hosts are weird like that, I mean just look at the guy's name and use of the giant seed. Obviously just trying to troll people. I'm on PC so not like I'm ever gonna pick any of that shit up.
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>>163537052
Host dropping poop to kill time between forest invasions.
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>>163536437
>dat parry spam
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>>163537375
>press L2 twice
>spam
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>>163537375
Welcome to "Welcome to the Forest" invasions. You see that a lot here. Honestly it never would have worked if I didn't even know it was possible to parry the 2nd hit if a SS if you use the 1H'd poise of a greathammer just at the right time.
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>>163537613
>mashing l2 so hard that he's still parrying after a successful parry
>not spam
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>>163535876
I think there's slight difference between guys who got banned for using free cams and ScottCunt that will use CE to kill himself because his one trick pony build has no answer to 1 counter.
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>>163537721
>time another parry just in case I whiffed the first one
>loser invader sends hatemail saying I was spamming
Get bent
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>>163537225

Kek, okay kid. Whatever you say. You're still gonna get parried if your plan is to just try to swing after I swing every time.
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fc
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>>163537794
>mashing is now cleverly planned and timed

see, this is why i come to /dsg/. for the humor.
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>>163537949
no
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>>163537875
>You're still gonna get parried if your plan is to swing when I can no longer parry you

I should've just assumed you were an idiot from the get-go, it would've saved me some time.
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>>163537975
I come here to see little bitches get mad because they got parried
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>>163537794
>time another parry just in case I whiffed the first one
read as: keep hitting the button because i can't time a parry in the first place
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>>163535515
WHAT A FUCKING BASTARD
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>>163538091
As if, I parried a second time only to show him how pathetic he was and that I could even have swapped to another weapon.
Kids who get parried not to be shown how shit they are
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>>163538072
the guy didn't sound mad but was asking a legitimate question he didn't understand. you sound pretty buttflustered tho, friend.
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>>163537724
Did you read the agreement? Both aren't allowed and modifying the game in ways they didn't approve of.
Scott and those other faggots deserve punishment all the same
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>>163538225
>moving goalposts
>implying that's you in the webm
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>>163537949
host then
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>>163538393
>implying I'm even the guy you originally replied to
>implying I'm not only trying to make the parried guy feel like a shitter for losing to a masher
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Rate my fashion, /dsg/.
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>>163538935
faggot/10
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>>163538792
>implying
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>>163538792

OP here, idk why I'd feel like a shitter getting beaten by something I thought was literally impossible and have never seen while playing since release, but okay. Whatever gives your life the illusion of meaning on an anonymous imageboard I guess.
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newfag here

why did i turn into a zombie when I died?
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>>163539304
Because you're undead and dying starts the rotting process.
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>>163538935
>ass crest
>kataner
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>>163539486
I actually run the Dragon Crest and Rapier, that was an old photo.
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>que up for arena
>first match
fuck you scott
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Is there a guide to farm easy (you)'s? I need to rush them.
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>>163539450
how do i turn back, my character was qt
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>>163539703
Posting Asanagi's gay doujin is a good beginning.
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>>163539757
With whatever the humanity item is in the game you're playing, unless you're playing 3. If you're playing 3 then use a purging stone.
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>>163539703
Start an argument on how DaS2 is the best Souls game.
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>>163539450
>rotting
das2 babby please
>>163539304
did you watch the intro cinematic? dying starts the hollowing process reverting you back to the original state of people, hollows. the pc never fully hollows because of his determination, which is basically the player himself. canonically, every time you delete a character he goes permanently hollow. in fact, there was a fan theory i was a fan of, that the item bearing corpses on the world aren't actually dead, just so hollow that they can't even react to the theft. this was confirmed or at least supported by the screaming corpses of irithyll dungeon
>>163539757
eat an effigy (ds2) or burn humanity at a bonfire(ds1). you need to eat the humanity first so that the counter top left shows at least 01, then select "revert hollowing" or whatever it is at a bonfire.
>was qt
press X to doubt.png
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>>163539890
>wanting to fuck a cute femboy boypucci is gay
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>>163539703
eceleb shitposting
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>>163539984
Hollows in all of the games look like decomposing bodies you dumbass.
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>>163540002
whatever floats your boat faggot
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Dragonsis.
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>>163539703

You just need to ask, qt.
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>>163540203
only in 2. in the canon games they look like dried meat
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>>163540263

I miss her.
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>>163540431
>in the canon games
>implying DaS2 isn't canon
Retard
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>wake up
>no christmas das3 event
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>>163540431
>only in 2.

And 1.

And 3.

2 displays the rotting differently but that does not change the fact that hollows in all of the games look like decomposing bodies.

Dumbass.
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>>163540545
Dragonsis isn't gone, _he just stopped BFposting after being cheated on.
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>>163540615
95% of ds2 is irrelevant to the lore of actual dark souls games
including ds2 hollows and hollowing
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>>163540431
I wish DaS2 was named differently, so it wouldn't be associated with garbage.
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>>163540623
There's one tomorrow. Look at the OP.
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>>163540639

Who would do that?
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>>163539963
But it is
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>>163540690
>dark souls
>lore
Fuck off Vaati.
Even Miyazaki said that the story is made up by the players.
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>>163540891
source or you're a shitter
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>>163540747
That's a fucking moronic event.
We should be doing stuff in the Painted World or Irithyll.
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>>163540891
myazaki has a clear vision of entire lore in his head, he just won't share
ds2 is not made by him and ds3 has bare minimum of throwbacks to it so it clearly exists outside of his vision of lore
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>>163540615
im not implying anything, im outright stating it. ds2 is not canon for the other two games and the only references to it are either retcons or straight up insults. ds2 is a different, self-contained story with its own characters and rules.
>>163540624
if you think that's composing, you're beyond retarded. that's a perfect example of a preserved body. only ds2 has decomposing hollows
>>163540891
what else is canonicality about other than lore, you shitposting dipshit?
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>>163540990
>high wall, ice lake, irrithyll, anor londo
? ? ?
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>>163540990
>ice lake
>irithyll
Those are two of the four locations listed
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>>163540690
>An entire Lord of Cinder
>Sulyvahn
>Kaathe's new goal and the related 3rd ending

You are trying way too hard to fit in.
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>>163540891
DS1 and DS3 lore:
>create a finished, interconnected storyline and lore
>remove parts of it so it would force a lot of speculation
DS2 lore
>create disjointed, senseless bits of lore
>throw them all together and pour an enormous amount of pretentious bullshit about "muh dark", "muh souls" and "muh kings and crowns" on them
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>>163541132
>>163541134
>>163541132
Just because you're doing your shitty event in snowy locales doesn't mean shit.

The event has no logic to it. At all. Guts Vs. Bloodshades? Really? And in the snow arena just because?

It's total trash
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>>163540747
I... I don't get it. Can I show up dressed like whatever I want or not?
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>>163541360
>not understanding it's just a fight club
? ? ?
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>>163541129
>if you think that's composing

Decomposing, Anon.

And yes, that is a decomposing body. It may be less decomposed than if it were left in a jungle or some such but it's still a decomposing body.

Clearly English isn't your first language, perhaps you ought not try to argue semantics.

>ds2 has decomposing hollows

And 1.

And 3.

Unless hollowing magically makes muscle mass disappear into the abyss or something.
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>>163541360
>moving the goalposts
>being so autistic as to not be able to tell what's a joke and what's not
well, i'd tell you to fuck off but it seems that you fit right in here. so, keep it up, i guess
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>>163541019
>myazaki has a clear vision of entire lore in his head, he just won't share
You're so naive it's amusing.
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>>163541360
Ice lake is in the painted world, Irithyll is Irithyll.
That's what you asked for, that's what you're getting.
The Guts Vs. Bloodshade thing was just a parody an old WWE poster. I didn't make it but I don't have any objections to it.
>>163541471
Yes. Asides from the Christmas theme and 24 hour length, it's just a FC.
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>>163541146
None of lords of cinders are connected to DS2 unless you go into fanfiction-tier speculations.
Sully as well.
Kaathe as well.
Supervisor position doesn't mean jack shit as he was working in bloodborne during that period of time.
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is there a TWOP like spell in DS3 or a way to hack the effect in? Was just invaded by the most suspicious person.
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>>163541482
Then it's not a fucking event. It's just trash.

>>163541538
>The Guts Vs. Bloodshade thing was just a parody an old WWE poster. I didn't make it but I don't have any objections to it.
It's ruined any chance for better themes or rulesets.
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>>163541638
Yeah man, I totally agree, gentleman's brawl was so much better! All my reddit friends had a lot of fun :^)
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>>163541638
Dude chill the fuck out
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>>163541332
>>163541019
>>163541129
>DS2 is 'not cannon'
>miyazaki has a 'clear vision of the lore'
>miyazaki made the lore

This is all stupid speculation without sources. The storytelling and lore in Dark Souls, all of them including DS2, was being used

Here are all the games that Form Software has ever made that directly referenced characters and lore from prior games:
>Dark Souls 3
>Armored Core Last Raven (Shared characters, nothing else, didn't reference events of prior games)

The other games share corporations or general themes, but never characters, never reference events of prior games, and are usually set 100+ years in the future.

Literally NO OTHER GAME THEY HAVE EVER MADE had an ongoing 'canon' lore. Dark souls 3 is the exception.

From Software was doing DS1/DeS/DS2 style lore before Miyazaki even joined the company. He didn't change anything after joining other than start re-using character names.

So no, it's not "MUH LORE, DS2 IS NOT CANON". No fucking game is 'canon'. Dark Souls 3 is the only time they've ever been desperate enough to make a direct sequel because they were told to cash in on DS1 nostalgia. Dark Souls 2 was never supposed to be a direct sequel, just like the other 30+ games they made prior to this. Miyazaki didn't change anything, he didn't invent the lore, he has no better idea of what the lore is than anyone else at that company.
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>>163515113
Just beat the big ice boss on souls 1 and now I need to go to the lava area after that boss at the end of blightown. Whats the quickest way there? please don't tell me I have to run through blight town for fucks sake.
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>>163541858
DS3 is a direct sequel of DS1. DS2 is not. DS3 referencing DS1 is understandable. DS2 may as well be called differently, like king's souls.
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>>163541521
Dude, half a second in Google can tell you that's considered preserved. You also need to realise that the human body is ~70% water. If you don't understand how removing a fraction of that would reduce muscle volume, i fear I may be speaking to a wall
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>>163541546
>None of lords of cinders are connected to DS2

Yhorm's story almost directly mirrors the Ivory King's and it's fairly clear that it was his ancestors who shat on Drangleic. Additionally, the Lothric brothers refusing to link the flame is likely due in some part to Aldia influencing the 1st scholar of Lothric, which was likely Sulyvahn. At that, Kaathe has clearly had his goals reoriented because he no longer wants you to walk away and let the flame die and the person he sends to help you wields a weapon from Drangleic.

The only reason not to make these connections is because you just don't want them to be there.

>Supervisor position doesn't mean jack shit

Then he wouldn't have bothered to have his name in the credits.
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>>163541931
>big ice boss on souls 1
Seath?
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>>163541967
>DS3 is a direct sequel of DS1

Yeah, I'm agreeing with that. But I'm saying that DS2 isn't the exception, DS3 is. DS2 follows the same pattern From has been following for 20+ years. DS3 is the FIRST direct sequel they ever made. The next closest one was Armored Core Last Raven, which re-used characters (because they were running out of money) but reconned the events of the game it was a sequel to anyway.

Do you really think that all 15 armored core games were 'direct sequels' of each other? Even within each generation they didn't follow the same storyline. Dark Souls 3 was the first attempt at a direct sequel that the company ever did.
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>>163542139
Yeah, my bad. I need to get to the lava area, there's nothing else for me to do besides that and neeto I think.
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>>163542140
Oh, and you know what's similar about both DS3 and Armored Core Last Raven?

The only reason they were direct sequels was because they were obvious fanservice. Armored Core Last Raven was supposed to be the last game they ever make because they couldn't afford a PS3 dev kit and were about to go bankrupt, since Agetec dropped them as a publisher and wasn't going to fund any new games, sort of like "final" fantasy.
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>>163541971
>half a second in Google can tell you that's considered preserved

I know it's a preserved body you twat, the filename should've told you as much. I didn't say that you made a typo, I said that you don't know what words mean and I said as much because you don't seem to understand that a preserved body is still decomposed to some degree, which is part of why the water that you mentioned is gone.
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>>163542207
Did you talk to the fair lady? If so, you can just warp to Blighttown.
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>>163541931
If you didn't hit the Daughter of Chaos bonfire the first time you were down there, take the shortcut from New Londo. If you didn't open that up when you left Blighttown, buy the Master Key from the guy under the waterway that leads to Undead Burg.
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Finally finished my Black Knight build, next one is Silver Knight, will be a pain in the ass with just the greatbow.
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>>163542309
No idea if I did, I play these game when I'm drinking and this one has been a nightmare desu. I can't warp to blightown on my game. God this game is tedious compared to the others.
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>>163542294
decomposition is a chemical process. dehydration is a physical one. please go back to highschool
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>>163542073
>mirrors the Ivory King's
Fanfiction.
>his ancestors who shat on Drangleic
Fanfiction.
>Lothric brothers refusing to link the flame is likely due in some part to Aldia influencing the 1st scholar of Lothric
Dumbest fanfiction, also see pic related.
>clearly
Fanfiction.
>The only reason not to make these connections is because
Is because i'm not into braindead fanfiction.
>bothered
Having his name in credits is the same as having a name of any big developer who didn't actually took an important part in production, merely a selling point.
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>>163541332
DS1 and DS2 and "every other game they have made" lore:
>Create a disjointed, senseless bits of lore
>throw them all together and pour an enormous amount of pretentious bullshit about "muh dark", "muh souls" and "muh kings and crowns" on them

DS3 Lore:
>let bandai convince you that people want DS1 2.0 not Dark Souls 3
>create disjointed senseless bits of lore, this time only using the bits of lore from DS1
>throw them all together and pour an enormous amount of pretentious bullshit about "muh dark", "muh souls" and "muh kings and crowns" on them
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Is DS3 + Season Pass worth it for 55 bucks?
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>>163542403
If you can't, that's ok. You can go through Blighttown backwards since you already went through it.
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>>163539703

Post webms. People hate that here apparently.
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>>163542348
ffs I think I missed that bonfire, i'll buy the master key but where do I go then?
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>>163542393
>No Silver Knight Straight Sword in DS3
>aaaaaaggggh
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>>163542393
>Let's throw back a lot of stuff from DaS1 !
>Yeah !
>No Silver Knight weapons though lol

Good luck
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>>163542465
>decomposition is a chemical process. dehydration is a physical one.

None of what I said contradicts that.

At this point it seems like you're just arguing that hollowing is the process of an undead becoming really thirsty.
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>>163542649
Aside from looks why is everyone drooling over this weapon? I never used it over Balder so please enlighten me.
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>>163542587
I don't understand what you mean? I know there are two ways in there..
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>>163542140
Please look at king's field games before trying to judge about storyline and connections in souls games. Thanks.
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>>163542625
>he's still buttblasted people called him out on his shit webms
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How much poise do you need to tank a 2h greatsword r1?
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>>163542558
no
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>>163542641
Down the stairs from Firelink to New Londo Ruins. Take a right and go up the stairs, open the door, head across the small bridge and into the cave. Go down until you find a waterwheel sort of thing with platforms. Get on a platform as it goes down, then disembark before you get dropped. You'll be right near the later bonfire in Blighttown. Missing the Daughter of Chaos bonfire is understandable, as it's hidden behind an illusory wall. In Quelaag's Domain, in the room with the stone circle on the ground underneath the bell, take a swing at the walls and you'll find it.
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>>163542768
Through Valley of the Drakes instead of the Depths
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>>163542810
King's field weren't direct sequels either. KF2 (the actual KF2, not the first localized KF) took place in an entirely different location... sort of like... oh man DARK SOULS 2!

Dark souls 3 is the only direct sequel they have made.
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>>163542759
The R2s are fucking sweet. Higher poise damage than other straight swords, and just damn good attacks. It's also the only twinkling titanite weapon in the game that's buffable without exploits, to my knowledge.
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>>163542507
>Fanfiction.
That sums up the entire series'''story''.
Only DeS had something substancial.
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>>163543143
>That sums up the entire series'''story''.
No, DS2 tard, your game there alone.
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>>163542715
if hollowing was decomposition, it would reach a point where nothing is left of the hollow but bones. but that's not what happens. they reach the pre-"found the souls of lords" state and stay there. simply saying that they are decomposing reveals a deep lack of understanding on your part. this will be your last (You) from me
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>>163543094
but can't you do like 2 of them and be all out of stamina? animation is cool tho
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>>163542759
It's a high dex-scaling weapon with insane range and without the usual shitty dex movesets. It gives you the wide long range slashes of a greatsword, with the same damage as the BSS, without a strength requirement. On top of that, it also is one of the few unique weapons that can be augmented.

Also, because of its high base damage, at equip requirements it does ~10% more damage than the BSS too. BSS only catches up at 40 dex.

Longer range, better for Int/Fth builds, unique upgrade path (no embers required), and wide sweeping moveset makes it unique among most dex weapons.
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>>163542348
I thought I knew who you were on about but now I don't, fucking hell this game.

Can you explain exactly where this guy is?
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>>163543236
oh, and to add something i forgot without giving more of the (You)s you so much crave, skeletons are NOT fully decomposed hollows. if that were true, you'd also see the intermediate stages. skeletons are simply people who died in an age of fire, decomposed normally and were "resurrected" by the power of the gravelord
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>>163542507
>No it's just fanfiction REEEEEEEEE

>Lonely Yhorm became a Lord of Cinder to put the Profaned Flame to rest, knowing full well that those who spoke of him as lord were quite insincere.

You know who else sacrificed himself to prevent a flame from overtaking his people? The Ivory King. Granted that was Chaos and Yhorm was trying to stop the Profaned Flame, but the similarities can't be denied.

>Yhorm is the descendant of an ancient conqueror, but was asked by the very people once subjugated to lead them, serving as both a weighty blade and a stone-hard shield.

Drangleic is the only land that we know if that was conquered by giants and the Drang knights in Anor Londo point to Lordran being the Land of the Giants that Vendrick attacked.

>see pic related.

See the part where I didn't say that Aldia was the first scholar. I said that Sulyvahn was likely the first scholar and I think the statue of him in Lothric backs this up.

Also, you cannot deny that Kaathe's been swayed by something. He originally wanted the flame dead but no longer wants that, which is a major shift. Yuria even refers to usurping the flame as a form of linking it, which is directly contrary to what Kaathe wanted in DS1.

>merely a selling point
Fanfiction.
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>>163542759
because they are pve faggots
in pvp silver knight straight swords were fucking horrible
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>>163543202
>>163542507

DS2 is just like every other From Soft game. Loose connections to prior games, set in a new location.

DS3 is the first 'fanfiction' style game where they brought back characters and locations instead of creating new things.
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>>163543459
>Drangleic is the only land that we know if that was conquered by giants
Does Yhorm has an anus face? No? Shut the fuck up then.
>can't be denied
>cannot deny
I can easily deny your baseless fanfiction because it's rooted in autistic parallels only your degenerative mind can see.
> I said that Sulyvahn was likely the first scholar
Oh, so now you just need to somehow connect him to Aldia, which is a hu-uge problem unless you go balls deep into fanficton.
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>>163542759
Just look at it. Do you not see how fucking sexy it is? Its easily the most beautiful straight sword in the series. Sure it was kind of shit in pvp for DS1 but if they ever decide to put it in DS3 it could be totally viable due to straight swords being op.
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>>163543432
Domnhall of Zena, beneath the waterway that you enter to reach Undead Burg. He's over where the Ring of Sacrifice was.
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>>163543489
>DS2 is just like every other From Soft game
So it's not a sequel of DS1 unlike DS3. We got it.
>fanfiction
It's written by the same person. Unless you want to say that "Empire Strikes Back" is fanfiction to "The New Hope", i really advise you to stop embarrassing yourself.
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>>163541763

Why can't people just do invasions, man? I'll never understand this honorabru circlejerk pcfcbf bullshit.

Invasions are the most fun you can have in the game and yet you purposefully put yourselves in this little box of strict rules like it's a competitive fighting game when it fucking isn't.
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>>163543780
/dsg/ can't into invasions
people here are whiny shits who can't win majority of invasions not involving one helpless host
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>>163543757
>"Fanfiction" style =/= fanfiction

It's not fanfiction. But in the argument you two were having, DS3 is closer to that style than DS2 was.

Some people like that about DS3, but that doesn't make DS2's lore bad. DS2's lore is more in line with the prior games they did, like Armored Core, which I like a lot. It would be a worse game if they had tried to make a direct DS1 sequel.
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>>163543739
So I have to run pretty far to get to him?

Appreciate the help. I can't see myself replaying this ever again it'just not enjoyabe compared to he others. I never had to look up what to do once on the others and they were a good challenge. This game just seems hard for the sake of it in a time consuming way.
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>>163543957
>DS3 is closer to that style than DS2 was
DS3 is a direct sequel that expands the same universe.
DS2 throws a bunch of retarded DS1 throwbacks that don't make ANY FUCKING SENSE like old dragonslayer or statue of Firstborn which are made for pure fanservice and not supported by any lore or idea at all.
DS3 also doesn't take 95% of DS2 into account unless it's mocking it.
So clearly, DS2 is the only fanfiction-y game here.
>but that doesn't make DS2's lore bad
Quality of DS2's writing is hilariously low and it feels like a disjointed mess made in completely different style than actual works of Miyazaki.
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>>163543641
>Does Yhorm has an anus face?

Not even all of the giants in DS2 had anus faces.

>baseless fanfiction

It is a fact that Kaathe no longer wants you to walk away from the flame and let it die, which is what he wanted in DS1. That is still an option and he sends Yuria to steer you away from it.

>so now you just need to somehow connect him to Aldia

How about the fact that he knows how the first flame works and doesn't want it linked? Aside from Kaathe the only person who wanted that before DS3 was Aldia.
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>>163544059
DS1 is unintentionally hard through a lack of clarity and awkward PS2-level game mechanics. That makes it enjoyable for some people because quirky shit can still kill you even if you're good, and you can always make the game harder by taking a different route. But for most people it was just obtrusively complicated.

DS1 reminds me of how early armored core games had an awful control setup at default. If you were on PS1/PS2 it was almost mandatory to change your controls or use cheese weapons to beat them without insane levels of practice.
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>>163543847

I guess. Invasions are where all the depth in the game exists though, I only realized that after literally hundreds of hours of honor duels, probably around 3-400 at SL120 pontiff alone. In invasions you have to figure out how to use the tools at your disposal to deal with being heavily outnumbered and outhealed pretty much all the time, you get to PvP in every location throughout the entire game instead of one shitty arena, you get to involve the mobs and traps through the game in your PvP. You can go from being ganked to having another invader come in as backup and turning it into a reverse-gank all of a sudden, sometimes invasion covenant guys or other invaders will attack you as an invader or purples will stab you in the back, who fucking knows.

Duel fight club honorabru shit just seems so stale. Makes me want to go to sleep. I quit the game for a few months before the DLC released because it just became so boring constantly handicapping myself with shittier and shittier weapons/builds because if I used any real builds or good shit I'd just win like 99.9% of the matches and it just got really lame and easy.
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>>163543780
There's nothing to post about invasions left.
All useful techniques are known, hardly anything amusing happens to be worth recording and sharing, and when it does, it's just a funny bug/lag.
Builds are no secret either so the only ones we could talk about would be trying to make hard stuff like a low SL Hodrick cosplay or how to use bad weapons(like the good weapons of their class, for most of them)
Co-op invading is rare and I've only met /dsg/ in the wild a rare few times.
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>>163544059
And with that said I just ran all the way there and he wasn't even fucking there. I hate this game and the other 2+bloodborne are my favorite games of all time. What the fuck.
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>>163544150
>Not even all of the giants in DS2 had anus faces.
There's 1 (one) giant that doesn't have it and he's just an unfinished, low-poly asset.
>It is a fact that Kaathe no longer wants you to walk away from the flame and let it die
It is not a fact that it's somehow connected to anything in DS2 aside from your mad fantasies.
>fact that he knows how the first flame works and doesn't want it linked
Given that the castle he presumably worked at is BUILT ON THE BASE OF THE SAME TREE THAT HOUSES A FUCKING FIRST FLAME, no shit Sherlock he knows how it works and you don't need to bring Aldia into it to explain anything.
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>>163543202
I don't even like DaS2, dasturd.
DaS story isn't some le genius puzzle, it's just flavour text to an accumulation of assets.
DaS2 had the missfortune of getting its resources siphoned into BB, so a skeleton remained. Underneath the games are the same. Just because Vaati wanked something easily digestible, doesn't mean it's not fanfic.
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Alright folds, I'mma blow everyone's fukkin' minds.

The entire Dark Souls series is a rehash of plotlines, locations, enemies, and characters from FROM's old games thrown into a side story that was originally supposed to happen in Demon's Souls and people who treat it like a masterwork are stupid as hell.

>The flame-tending maiden has not come down
from the upper level. Go ahead, seek her; you monsters deserve each other. I could not care any less.
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>>163544132
>DS3 brought back characters and speculation and fanservice

>DS2 had a bunch of new, unrelated ideas set in a new location, utilizing the same themes

Miyazaki influences the game through level, boss, and character design, not 'lore'. That is done by the rest of From Soft and they have been doing it that way for ages. And the dialogue quality is up to bandai, who does the localization and translations. They are known to completely re-do dialogue from the ground up (like in Armored Core V) instead of faithful adaptations, to make it more friendly to 'western audiences'.

DS3 is the exception to this and is the first time they tried to make a direct fanservice sequel instead of just creating a new world and characters built on the same themes, sharing things 'in name only'. That's how all their prior games were done.
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>>163544260
The game is clunky but i'm not having a problem with the fighting what so ever, in fact nearly every single boss has been underwhelming. It's just...nearly everything else about this game that makes it annoying, starting with not being about to travel where you want and that's just the start of it.
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>>163544297

All your points say is that souls isn't worth discussing anymore, so /dsg/ probably shouldn't exist. Doesn't mean the game isn't still fun as fuck and fight clubs are still boring artificial bullshit.

I didn't say post about invasion strategies or webms of you invading, I just said why the fuck does the fight club shit keep coming up when you could just invade instead and have an exponentially more fun and thrilling time? And if even that isn't fun for you anymore then just uninstall and play something else in all seriousness, and I say that in the nicest way possible. Because I've played hundreds of hours of invasions and counting and I still love it, and I'm just at SL35 for the most part, I haven't even really gotten into my SL55 +6 (or I can make him +8) yet which is a whole new set of possible builds and different areas to invade.
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>>163544434
>blow people's minds

Tell us something we don't already know, then.

The only time people's "Deep lore" started happening was when DS3 was released, and a bunch of shitty DS3-only players were introduced to the series without realizing that From doesn't do sequels, they re-adapt and rehash their prior influences and mash it up into a vague sense of lore.
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>>163544512
>Miyazaki influences the game through level, boss, and character design, not 'lore'.
He has all lore in his head, read the actual interviews.
> direct fanservice sequel
I ask you again. Is "Empire Strikes Back" a "direct fanservice" to a "The New Hope"?
Or maybe just an actual sequel that actually does what all direct sequels do, fucktard?
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>>163544338
>he's just an unfinished, low-poly asset.

Fanfiction.

>It is not a fact that it's somehow connected to anything in DS2

Then what changed Kaathe's mind? The scholar of the second sin?

>the castle he presumably worked at is BUILT ON THE BASE OF THE SAME TREE THAT HOUSES A FUCKING FIRST FLAME

[citation needed]

At that, feel free to explain how simply seeing the first flame would teach him how it works.

According to DS3 Drangleic is the land known for the legend of the linking of the first flame, which implies that Aldia (or someone who learned from him) was the first person to disseminate information about what the first flame really is to the world outside of Lordran.
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>>163544683
You're clearly not even reading my posts and just repeating yourself.

DS3 isn't empire strikes back. It's Force Awakens. There is no 'empire strikes back' and there is no 'Return of the jedi'. From doesn't do sequels. DS3 is the first time they've even had reoccuring characters and locations in most of their games.

And given how much of the staff changed from DS1 to DS3, I'd say that it's as good as having two different writers.

Some people like that kind of storytelling. I like the storytelling of all their prior games, which had unique stories and just referenced themes and general ideas, not actual characters or plotlines from prior games.
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>>163544662
You might've known it but there's at least one person here who seems to think that Souls is all OC donutsteel.
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>>163544745
>Fanfiction
Check the meaning of this word before using it so you won't appear this retarded next time.
>Then what changed Kaathe's mind
Clearly not something outside of confirmed DS1-3 lore.
>[citation needed]
Pic related.
>how simply seeing the first flame would teach him how it works
It's your job to write comlicated, autistic fanfics. Leave me out of it.
Hint: scholars have a job of studying things.
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>>163544745
He is literally an unfinished low-poly asset though. That's not fanfiction, it's in the game. Unless you are going to start calling basic descriptions of a visual fanfiction".

"The Old Iron King is inside lava"
>FANFICTION, YOU DON'T KNOW THAT'S LAVA

"The lost sinner has a bug crawl into her eye"
>FANFICTION, IT COULD BE AN ARACHNID

You're hilarious
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>>163544858
Force Awakens wasn't done by original director.
DS3 was.
Try again.
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>>163544683
>He has all lore in his head, read the actual interviews.
But he just won't share it, we get it.
Nigga u dumb for simply believing PR talk.
Didn't you learn from his Pendant prank?
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>>163544260
Never mind I've done it. I ran the back way into blight town, dropped down and ran through.
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>>163544574
You clearly haven't played the other games to get the point I'm trying to make.

Asking and talking about FCs is expected because they're the ways /dsg/ can organise and do things together, other than events (events haven't been very successful in 3, but that's not the issue).

People are free to enjoy duels, invasions, coop or whatever they want in the series and, while I'll say 3 is the first time invasions actually take more skill than dueling, they are the one thing we can't do together and don't contribute to the keeping the thread going as much as the rest, because if you invade, you just do, most of us who do invade, like me, do that silently because FCing and cooping with /dsg/ makes use of the thread since you need some coordination, but if you only invade, what would you even post?
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Any Xboxfags on? I need a motion blade.
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>>163545294
>motion blade
Have you tried pressing your right bumper?
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>>163544913
I think the problem is that people credit Miyazaki for all the lore, as if he wrote it down inspired from other things, when really he's just ripping off elements, points at his team of writers ,and go "add these somehow, make it make sense".

And most of themes of Dark vs Light and a Chosen Undead were stolen from Armored Core and KF too.

Look at the Dark Souls Credits:

(English) Script Writing
>Ryan Morris (Frognation Ltd)
>Lynn Robson (Frognation Ltd)
>Kengo Watanabe (Frognation Ltd)
>Ema Kodaka (Frognation Ltd)

No one else (not even miyazaki) is credited with writing the game script, and Frognation is an outsourced company.

DS2 credits:
Script Writer
>Toshifumi Nabeshima

(English) Script writing:
>Ryan Morris (Frognation Ltd)
>Lynn Robson (Frognation Ltd)
>Kengo Watanabe (Frognation Ltd)
>Ian Milton-Polley(Frognation Ltd)
>Ema Kodaka (Frognation Ltd)

I can't find a text dump of DS3's credits, but I think like DS1 they don't credit a writer either.
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>>163544920
>Check the meaning of this word before using it so you won't appear this retarded next time.

Ooh, scathing. I guess backing things up with an item description isn't necessary when it's you making the claims.

>Clearly not something outside of confirmed DS1-3 lore.

Then what was it?

>Pic related.

Mmm, some of that good old fanfiction.

>Hint: scholars have a job of studying things.

Like the works of other scholars? Such as Aldia?

>>163544983
>He is literally an unfinished low-poly asset though.

I'm not denying that, but if he wants to say that there's no lore behind it then let him show it. He's not the only one who gets to be anal about everything.
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>>163545012
>I'M GONNA BE PEDANTIC ABOUT A METAPHOR INSTEAD OF REALIZING I'M WRONG

Dark souls 3 is the only From Software game that is a direct sequel and uses re-occuring characters from DS1. If you think that's not "fanservice", then you need to find a dictionary.

DS2, like all their prior games, uses the same themes and ideas but takes place in a new location with new characters at a different time. If you think that's "fanfiction" or "fanservice" then you, still, need to find a dictionary.
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>>163545582
>>163545012
If DS2 is fanfiction, then every game From Soft has made is fanfiction of their prior games. In which case, fanfiction is okay by me because their games have pretty good lore.
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>>163545581
>Then what was it?
Clearly not something outside of confirmed DS1-3 lore.
>Mmm, some of that good old fanfiction.
It's just a solid facts. Get a taste of those, fucko.
>Like the works of other scholars?
Like actually investigating things from his own game, not fanfiction garbage made without the original director.
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>>163542687
Thanks, btw. How does this look for my "Silver Kniqht"?
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>>163545445
Bloodborne doesn't credit writers either.

Miyazaki has never even credited himself with writing the game's script or lore, which makes sense given that the lore is closer to games the company made before he was hired.

Miyazaki does atmosphere and direction with some level design. The game designers, graphic designers, writers, etc. are all different people who work for him.
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>>163546000
You might just use the Estoc or some other straight sword for your build and pretend it's the SKSS instead of the bow. Save yourself the pain.
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>that door in lost bastille that opens up to just a wall with a skeleton embedded into it

every fucking time i laugh, like 4th playthrough now and it still gets me
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>>163546000
head needs to be longer and narrower
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>>163546151
>don't give up, skeleton!
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>>163545582
You're right let me crack open my 1995 websters.
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>>163546117
I've been torturing myself with some of my older builds, so I might as well try it.
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>>163546000
this >>163546179
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>>163545581
>>163545931
LOOOL this conversation is fucking ridiculous. You bunch of fucking nerds. Read a real fucking book why don't you.
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>>163546179
>>163546324
How about this then?
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Drake blood Gs still good for faith dickery?
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>Plays DS2 for a year using GS / UGS, hates how they 'nerfed' the zweihander
>realizes that the Zweihander has the best greatsword/UGS moveset and range in the entire game
>wait why is this a low-tier weapon
>start using it, slap on Flynn's since it only weighs 12 units
>576 damage
>Greatsword is 632

Literally the only move that I'm not using in PvP is the 2nd hit of its 1H R2. Why is this weapon ranked so low on the tier list?
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>>163545931
>Clearly not something outside of confirmed DS1-3 lore.

Then what was it? DS3 confirms that the scholar of the first sin disseminated his information either directly or indirectly so Aldia's influence is well within the boundaries you've set.

>It's just a solid facts.

It's a screenshot of the most spatially distorted area of a game where spatial distortion on a large scale is a major theme.

>Like actually investigating things from his own game

Such as?
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SLIDERS WHERE
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>>163546519
Looks good, maybe a bit less forehead
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Aside from snap freeze spam, what other sorceries are useful against anti-magic greatshield turtling and does anyone know if spells work with Knight Slayer ring?
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>>163547171

Farron Flashsword/Great Farron Dart chip damage since no shield has 100% magic resist.

Pestilent Mercury if they aren't moving but the cast speed is so slow even then I'm not sure if it's worth it.
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>>163547274
What do if they have great magic shield
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>>163547712
Wait it out and punish if they try casting it again.
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>>163546519
I dont think you understand. see the sk helm again
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>>163547274
I really wish there was some black flame equivalent for sorcery.
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>>163544683
Demon's Souls = A New Hope.
Classic that gave us the epic saga but it's almost always forgotten in favor of Empire Strikes Back

Dark Souls = Empire Strikes with Backstabs
The part of the saga that's ingrained into the minds of everyone as the definitive experience and the most memorable one even though it wasn't the first.

Dark Souls 3 = Rectum of the Jedi
A good conclusion to the trilogy, many strong moments but it lacks the impact the second one had. Still extremely solid production.

DaS2 Softs = Star Wars the Phantom Hit Menace
A much maligned part of the franchise that still had some pretty cool things that make it an alright experience.

DaS2 vanilla = Star Wars Holiday Special
A travesty that the producer is actively ashamed of and wants to actively wipe off of people's memories.

Bloodborne = Starship Troopers
Has nothing to do with Star Wars but who the fuck cares because it's a fucking great movie?
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>>163548954
That's pretty good actually.
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>>163546151
Skeletons are like the nigger jokes of Souls, even if it's a bad one I still laugh.
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>survived a gank where host resummoned both his butt buddies at least twice on top of a blue
>invade again
>it's his cocky phantom who tries to gank me this time
>gets wrecked regardless
Cute.
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>>163542861
>>163542558
bought it for 40 buckos at g2a :^)
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>>163549759
>g2a
enjoy your game from stolen credit cards
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>>163546290
I remember these

>Gamer Girl being hollow with Untrue Dark Ring

Best part
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>feelerino when you get caught in hyper armor frames and a cbv oneshots you
>host points down
everyone is getting cursed next time
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>>163546290

This ranks in the top 10 /dsg/ images.
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>>163541332
mfw half of DS2 item descriptions
>"Mysterious key of mystery. No one knows where it came from"
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>>163550260
>or perhaps...
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>>163550435
Keh heh heh
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>>163549860
She also had the skull ring to attract attention.
>>163550065
I'm glad you like it, I made sure to make the builds as related to the stereotypes as possible.

Btw, anyone has a silver knight greatbow they can't gift me on PC? I'd greatly appreciate it.
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>>163550515
>>163550260
I blame most of that on the shitty port job that Bandai did. Most of From Soft's translations, voice acting, and animations are outsourced.
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>>163548954
Ds3 is like rotj because both are famservice rehashes

>its another death star
>youre back in anal rodeo

Same shit
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>>163550565
Pass and place
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>>163550565

I can drop you one, since I can't use it myself anyway.
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>>163550565
are you "Not a Hacker"?
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steam flash sales are gone now right? should i get ds3 + dlcs?
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Will /dsg/ ever make videos as good as this one?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAVbH7hEpK8
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Anyone watching the scott jund tourney thing?

Literally just some random dude smashing everyone with, surprise surprise, 2 handed rouge'd carthus curved sword.

If you beat like 15 people in a row + the last record holder + jund and his "friends", you get some reddit bling and your name on the sidebar in r/opensouls I guess. That's it.

Wow.
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>>163550724
>>163550730
>>163551024
Highwall
pass: dsg
I'm "Silver Kniqht"
Sorry for the delay, I had to rush through the tutorial area.
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Thankyou so much!
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>>163551107
>/dsg/
>ever making videos aside from a few autists back in '12-'13
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>>163551137

>2H rouge'd Carthus CS dominating

I don't know the average good level of players in these things but if that is even against greatsword or halberd players these people are amazingly bad.
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>>163551389

You're welcome! Hope you have fun with this playthrough.
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>>163551458
idk current guy is at like 8 or 9 wins in a row now.

it's some guy that keeps running around in circles.
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>>163551458
CCS is still better than those.
What is surprising is that there's no autistic estoc turtle killing everyone
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>>163551458
>>163551549
>>163551639

>as soon as I post the possibility of a greatsword counter I check into the stream and some guy with a Wolf Knight Greatsword easily beats the Carthus CS user

Called it.
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>>163551673

Top tier cancer beat top tier cancer, wow.

This tourney thing is still cancerous ask fuck.
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>>163551639
>What is surprising is that there's no autistic estoc turtle killing everyone
Sorry anon, having too much fun with DS3 and BB invasions for this.
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>>163551748
>top tier cancer
>Wolf Knight GS
wat
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>>163515113
I still haven't finished ds3 dlc. I learned to parry almost every attack from burn face but didn't want to finish her off yet
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Help, I can't dodge Gundyr weapon art for shit. Is rolling into it as people spin the best way to dodge?
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>>163551832

I mean I wouldn't call it toptier but the Wolf Knight is pretty damn close.

>second longest greatsword range behind Onyx Blade
>second highest pure physical AR at 40/40 behind the Black Knight Sword
>basic 'good' greatsword moveset with somewhat useful WAR1s that are great at wakeups and clipping players near you
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>>163551885
STOP BULLYING THE CUTIE

>>163552057
And yet nobody uses it, in 1200 hours I saw around 4-5 people using it.
Don't talk shit about my greatswordfu.
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>>163552250
>And yet nobody uses it, in 1200 hours I saw around 4-5 people using it.
on arena even in group combat it's a really fucking rare occasion to see a team without it
wolf knight is probably the best version of abyss/artorias gs in the entire franchise right now
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>>163552250
Most people use it now. It's the most meta physical GS and probably only MLGS and Onyx are more common to see.
It only gets worse from now on as it gets more and more popular.
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bloodshades still a thing?
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>>163552364
>>163552365
... My greatswordfu is now cancer ? Damn.
I've been using it since launch.
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>>163551760
>fun with DS3 and BB invasions
But there literally are no such things in these games, anon.
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>>163548954
>Bloodborne = Ayyleums
fixed that for you
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>>163552831
I have so much fun in random invasions of both BB and DS3 i never experienced since early DS1, anon.
And i pity the fools wasting their time on duelshittery in both of those games.
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>>163553126
Not even those professional streamers from Soulbrandt get invasions in BB or DaS3 thanks to defeated bosses killing online activity. Get off it.
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>>163552831
Plenty of fun invasions in DS3. I stick to 40-60 and everything from +4 to +10 weapons depending on what kind of players I try to invade. Recently I've been using rhh and arbalest combo. If I run into a gank squad I unzip my greatbow and fuck with them until I run out of arrows.

In BB I only co op so I don't know
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>>163553379
>professional streamers
>defeated bosses killing online activity
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>>163553460
It's true.
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>>163553379
>professional streamers from Soulbrandt
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>>163552831

>can't have fun with invasions in DaS3
>implying
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>>163553126
>"fun"

I guess I'm in the minority that thinks ganking and trolling isn't all that fun. If the battle is easy because you catch the opponent off guard and that lets you do stupid shit and still win, it's not really that fun to me. If the enemy is super-prepared and better than you and you still win on even ground, that's the best.

But then again, I like Armored Core, so maybe I just actually like -hard- multiplayer instead of -gimmicky- multiplayer.
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anyone else having problems with lock-on? i was up against two opponents and it kept randomly changing lock-on and fucking me up (both options for auto targeting are off).
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>>163553672
Oroboro makes more money than you by streaming and fucking hates DaS3 and BB pvp but loves DaS2. How does this make you feel?
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>>163554143
Well DS2 has the best pvp
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>>163554143
>more money than me

Not now that he streams For Honor and Hearthstone
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>>163554143
he makes shit
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>>163554143
The fact some random fucktard has no real job and will get completely BTFO when streaming will get out of trend makes me warm and cosy inside, and the fact that his horrible taste in games only confirms how bad DS2 is is really not surprising.
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>still no news about the next DaS3 DLC
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>>163554320
>he rather lets his income plummet than play BB or DaS3
Tells us how shit these games really are, doesn't it? Damn.
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>>163554406
He won't go broke when he stops streaming. There's a lot of money in being able to make content that people will watch, and being able to know what people want. Even if streaming dies out he'll go on and still make worthwhile shit and get hired by someone for his following and social media portfolio.

He's just found a way to make money doing what he wants, instead of every hour playing dark souls just being a total waste of time.
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>It's an 'enemy mage repeatedly casts homing crystal soul spear and won't stop running away from you and spam rolling unless you get close enough for them to try one or two swipes of their MLGS' episode
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I want to enjoy dks3. I want to so fucking bad, more than i've ever wanted to enjoy any other game.
I've done all questlines, tried PvP , co-op..

I just can't enjoy it. It feels so empty.
Dks1 was a spoiling treat and the 2 following games just weren't up to par.

/rant
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>>163554671
Then why is he not streaming 2?
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>>163554789
>been playing From Soft games for 15 years

>laughing forever at posts like this
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>>163553424

Are you me? Because you just described me.
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>>163554956

>haha king's field is where it's at bro

really?
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>>163554143
i make more just literally sitting in my chair all day and not doing anything lmao and it's not even much
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>>163555028
I also invade at SL120 pontiff gank garden so probably not.
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>skys gets rekt using the exact sort of build I suggested for spears to counter CCS which is instead of shield: using offhand estoc

LOL I TOLD YOU FAGGOTS, I TOLD YOU
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>>163554935
Same reason he isn't streaming DaS1. He played it for several years nonstop.
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>>163554956
>>163555029
No, because people who just started playing think that all their games are on quality with DS1/DeS.

Disappointments with DS2 and DS3 are more common with the rest of their games. Dark Souls 1 and Demon Souls were flukes. Chromehounds was another one.
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so why is the firelink shrine re-used 3 times? what's the explanation for it? i didn't understand that
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>>163554789

>it's another PCuck DaS1 babby episode

I'm with this >>163554956 guy, I will never not laugh at people like you.
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>>163554956
Same here.

I'm getting really tired of all of this "everything's a rehash but at least the rehash I started with was kewl and original." This community shitposted itself right into a bad game with all of this DS1 dickriding.

Sometimes I wish that Dark Souls had never been made so I could still be here shitposting about crushing fags with the DBS.

>>163555436
Time is convoluted.
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>>163555546
>Time is convoluted.

no don't give me this bullshit, ENOUGH
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>>163555352
Back in the day people didn't like DaS1 either because of its unfinished and broken nature.
The love only came with DaS2. Same thing happens with DaS2, because DaS3 is a joke.
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>>163554956
>>163555451
>>163555546

You guys are honestly fucking stupid

>haha you can't not enjoy dks3 because I DON'T enjoy it even more than YOU DO!!!
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>>163555451
>>163555352
>>163554956

The Dark Souls fanbase is basically the Armored Core fanbase circa 2003. They have no idea what they're in for from here on and keep thinking that the company is going to go back and make games as good as the few popular ones that sold recently.
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>>163555612
>you can't not enjoy dks3
Who are you quoting?
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>>163555609
>because DaS3 is a joke.
yeah it's a joke that's why it sold several millions, is genuinely a good game and better than 9 out of 10 garbage games out there and everybody liked the game except for turbo autists like you apparently. like can you even mention a better game released this year or even previous
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>>163555352
>quality
>DeS
>>
>hurrr durrrr if you don't enjoy dks3 you're a retard


I didn't know fromsoft employed shills
>>
Every time there's a new From Software game, 20-50% of the fans of the prior game hate it, some even leaving the franchise. Happened with every subsequent AC game. They get replaced by new fans who never played prior games, and THOSE people leave when the next game came out.

Over 15 years I've learned that the only people who stick with the franchise no matter what are the ones who recognize that the games aren't amazing, but just appeal to their needs in niche, super-autistic, lovably quirky ways. This is usually because they like the "unknown warrior" protagonist, the heavy reliance on stats, and the insane levels of customization. The people who love 'lore' and 'style' and 'level design' and all the other things are usually the people who quit the franchise after 2-3 games.
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>>163555905

Not everyone has needs in super-autistic """lovable""" quirky ways buddy.
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>>163555905
>but just doesn't appeal to their needs in niche, super-autistic, lovably quirky ways
fixed this for you, here is what it's actually like
>20-50% of the fans of the prior game hate it, some even leaving the franchise.

autism
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i can run DS1 on this slight toaster of a laptop just fine. are DS2 and DS3 miles above in terms of requirements? can i turn down quality at all
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>>163555905
>if you like well made games u have autism

just kys
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>>163555905

>yeah if you're not a hardcore autistic fan your opinion doesn't count haha

Do you have a fedora collection?
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>>163556109
DS2 will run better than DS1. DS3 will be unplayable.
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>>163556041
Yeah, and those people are going to be disappointed when From Soft puts out more shitty games.

>>163556073
The ones who actually stick around with the franchise are the ones with autism, because they're the only ones who crave the quirks in these games that From Soft does consistently. Everything else (graphics, story, lore, characters,) From Soft is EXTREMELY inconsistent about, and if that's what you like, you'll stop playing because they will keep putting out crap inconsistent games.

The people who actually keep playing DESPITE the crap are the fans who will stick around.
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>>163556225
alright, guess i'll pick up 2 at least to check it out. thanks
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>>163555793
Same can be said about DaS2, yet you shitposted it for almost 3 years now.
Grow up.
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>>163556274
>this post
the only one with autism here is you
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>>163556194
>>163556209

No? That's the opposite of what I said.

If you like well made games, you don't have autism, so you won't enjoy all of From Soft's stuff.

If you don't have autism, eventually From Soft is going to release games you hate and you're going to stop playing the franchise. The only thing they are consistent about is putting in all the weird quirks (like the customization depth and character style) that exist in all their games.
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likely a very stupid question, but do i purchase Dark Souls II on steam or "Dark Souls II: Scholar of the First Sin"
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>>163556413
SotFS is where all the players are. Only get the original if your GPU for some reason is so old that it can't do DirectX 11.
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>>163556327
>yet you shitposted it for almost 3 years now
lmao you clearly have issues, absolutely hilarious you think i'm your nemesis shitposter or something. i only started visiting this gen recently after ds3 came out
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>>163556395

Then why are you belittling people who don't enjoy dks3?
Your reasoning is hypocritical.
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>>163556395
>if you think from softs game are good u have autism

just kys again
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From Software is extremely inconsistent. If you like DS3 but you hate DS2, then you're going to hate whatever else they come up with next.

Pretending that DS2 was a 'fluke' and that DS1 and DS3 are amazing games for you to dick ride and that From Software can do no wrong as long as Miyazaki is in charge is fucking dumb.

The only people who consistently like From Software games are those who will keep playing despite the constant shifts in quality and disappointments and variation in style and lore and direction.

Everything you like about DS3 is going to be undone in their next game.

Just like how everything you liked about DS2 was undone in DS3

Just like how everything you liked about DS1 was undone in DS2

Just like how everything you liked about DeS was undone in DS1

Just like how everything you liked about ACV was undone in ACVD

Just like how everything you liked about AC4 was undone in ACFA

Just like how everything you liked about ACLR was undone in AC4

and on and on and on.

Dark Souls 2 isn't the exception. Miyazaki can, and will, make shitty games. He has in the past, he will continue to in the future. If you "love" from software because of Dark Souls 3, but you hate Dark Souls 2 or Dark Souls 1 or Demon Souls or even Armored Core, then you don't like the company. You just like Dark Souls 3, and be prepared to be massively disappointed with whatever comes next.
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>>163556570
He's mocking them because people who played more than the souls series know 3 being disapponting is no surprise or reason to call it the worst shot they ever produced.
There was a huge hype around it and hiw it'd surpass 1 and fix all mistakes 2 did, but From's fans knew that was very unlikely but they'd still buy it, because the things they ARE consistent with would be present in the game no matter its quality.
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>>163556841
>>163556870
excuse me but i don't have autism, play a lot of games, and enjoyed all dark souls games and they are objectively good games

consider ur life choices. maybe create an expert game review blog
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>>163556870
THIS

Thank you, this guy gets my post. I'm pointing out how fucking ridiculous it is to love/hate Dark Souls 3 and think that it represents the whole company, it's no surprise that it was a change and was disappointing, and neither was DS2, or DS1.
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>>163555451
Demon's Souls was janky shit that was good back in the day but is hard to go back to today due to some mechanics like lack of plunging attacks, the overall floatiness of movement and the absurd amount of healing grasses that trivializes PvE and the online is dead.
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>>163556841
>From Software is extremely inconsistent. If you like DS3 but you hate DS2, then you're going to hate whatever else they come up with next.

This is a cold hard truth that most dark souls fans will never accept.
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>>163556841
>Like how everything you liked from DeS was undone in DS1
Que?
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>>163557021
Grass didn't trivialize pve as mobs were able to gore you the whole game due to lack of upgradable armor and poise. It's about surviving encounters, not ressource management.
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>>163557018
This same thing happened with Armored Core too. There's a lot of Armored Core fans who loved Armored Core For Answer, but never really liked the other *14* games in the franchise, because it was the first game they played (most of them on 360) and the other games were very inconsistent and different from it. So you end up with a lot of people praising those games as the best even when a large part of the consistent fanbase considers them sub-par.
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>>163557534
That's what was bs about DeS:
You either basically get one-shotted or gangraped in one go or you can keep going forever, there's no in-between.
And even for just surviving you have incredibly powerful tools like Second Chance.
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>sotfs ost is better or on par with entire ds3 soundtrack
they should have given Motoi more bosses to create for or let collab. just listen to these two alone, better than a lot of stuff in ds3

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4WAbp6sXPU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8PCoBqgHIQ
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>>163557334
Muh MiB
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I haven't played this release, did poise have been buffed, what are easy specs fun specs to come back and clear the game+dlc?
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Any PS4fags willing to help with Dragonslayer Armour? Pass is dsg.
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Fashion souls ?
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>>163557856
If you farm humanity or upgrade your armor in DaS1 you are unstoppable. I prefer some tension.
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>>163558065
WHY DOES EVERYBODY NEED HELP AS SOON AS I'M NOT AVAILABLE
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>>163558307
>full armor
>UGS
>Greatshield
...
>no helmet
>hollow face

If you want to show you face, use the Knight Helm. Otherwise, go with Syan, or Ruin helm.
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>>163557861
>not posting the superior soundtracks

I have only played a couple of hours of this game, and didn't like it at all, but fuck me if the OST isn't beautiful.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jvFOdMy7ZcA&
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GgautiqJooE&
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m7fYikkFr_I&
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYQrxnXD9zo
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>>163558307
How's my fashion?
+ this >>163546290
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>>163558814
>Majula theme best theme
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>>163558984
Majula isn't even in my list, it's a pretty shit theme desu
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>>163559060
Isn't majula theme just longing without the vocals and bells? I thought it was the same melody
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>>163558065
Welp, never mind. Somehow pulled through with no Estus and 17 HP left.
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>>163559438
Good job anon
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>>163559386
>Isn't majula theme just longing without the vocals and bells?
Nope
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>>163559438
what were you playing to find dragonslayer armour difficult? it was the only boss i oneshot in seconds without even using estus on my 1st playthrough. every other boss destroyed me
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>>163559742
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>>163559861
was legitimately the easiest boss for me, i was pure melee
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>>163559908
OK.
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>>163559742
I'm shit at dodging, and panic rolls are a bad habit. Doesn't help that he hits like a train.
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>>163560332
>panic rolls are a bad habit
not in DS3
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PLEASE
HELP ME
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Anyone else notice a sudden influx of greatshield users?

What's a good method to fuck with them? I've found that kicking, even with the horsehoof ring, doesn't really do shit in DS3. Emptying your stamina bar on their shields with a greatweapon and knightslayer ring doesn't really do much either.

What I've been doing is using the pickaxe to do some chip damage, but surely there's better methods?
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>>163560917

How?
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>>163548954
>not "Empire Stabs Back"
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>>163560881
There's plenty of roll catching in Dark Souls 3, including PvP. I have seen way too many hosts die to Soul of Cinder because of this.
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>>163560917
>>163561182

Here you go.
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>>163561020
i use a dark infused carthus shotel, once they realize that i chip through their shield i've already done 400 damage or they stop using the shield.
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>>163561270
>There's plenty of roll catching in Dark Souls 3, including PvP.
Lol
if by plenty you mean "only if you fuck up mashing B" then sure
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>>163559861
Some people mean they beat it with out dying, not ohk
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>>163561448
Straight swords and curved swords can 100% reliably hit someone mashing roll if you time it well. Bosses like Soul of Cinder also catch rolls if you get scared and roll too early on their delayed swings.
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>>163561356
Thank you.
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>>163561356
Mannnnnnnnnnnn this guy does not shut up
Why was Latria better than every other prison/dungeon in preceding games?
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>>163561356
esproc ym morf elcitra na eveirter tsum I
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>>163561716
It was very atmospheric and the Mind Flayers were very nice enemies, their iconic bell rings will stay with you forever. Irithyl Dungeon in Dark Souls 3 was also nice, but it didn't manage to be as good as Latria. My only problems with Latria were the holes in the ground, I thought they were pretty cheap. You're basically guaranteed to fall through them at least once unless you're very slowly traversing every empty hallway inch by inch.
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Something isn't quite right here
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>>163561595
Again, you can only rollcatch if you fuck up mashing the roll button.

The only weapon I've seen that can actually consistently rollcatch is greatswords with the normal moveset.
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>>163561020
Greatweapons are actually not very efficient at breaking shields, they can just strafe you for the BS and get it. The best weapons for pressuring shield users are (surprise surprise) curved swords. If you want to use a non cancer one go with the Carthus Shotel, which can also do some chip damage through them that adds up if they keep shielding, and it's useful for finishing them off when they start playing even more passive as their HP gets low.
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>>163561716
EUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUURRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGHHHHHJ
What did he mean by this?

>every other dungeon than in preceding games.
You mean subsequent. And I thought a certain pillar swore up and down that Dark Souls 2 had an area with atmosphere equal to Latria's haha.
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>>163562548
You think they're going to give you a deal on content not even released yet?
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>>163562160
I still get chills when I hear wind chimes
Also yeah I definitely fell a few times
>>163562773
>preceding
>PRE
Sorry my mind is fried, and not that I recall. Nothing in ds2 really made me feel spooked
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>>163562548
The DLCs are brand new or not even released so of course they're not going on sale yet.
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>>163562830
>>163562995

Bundle costs more than buying them separately.
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>>163562916
I was making fun of this shill
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>>163562916
> Nothing in ds2 really made me feel spooked

Supposedly most of the indoor areas were going to be super dark. Basically, anywhere without actual light sources was going to be pitch-black unless you also walked around with a torch, and even then you would still have a limited field of view.

The whole idea was to create a sense of dread throughout the whole game where either everything was barren and empty (frozen outskirts) or you were trapped and in the dark. The final release though was really bright and had a lot less contrast.
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When are we going to get some level variety in this games?

every thing looks like shirt
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>>163527831
Honestly just play the game and experience it for yourself. Try a strength build to start and put your levels into str until it hits 40. In the beginning of the game you'll find a bridge with a dragon. Sprint across the bridge and grab a claymore. The dragon might kill you but claymore was broken as fuck in DS1 and my personal favorite pvp weapon. Other than that go in blind and enjoy the experience. Theres nothing quite like playing dark souls for the first time if yoy havent play any other souls game
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>>163563246
>supposedly
You can how it is in the early gameplay footage.
I was so hyped and ended up so let down.
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>>163562773
>You mean subsequent. And I thought a certain pillar swore up and down that Dark Souls 2 had an area with atmosphere equal to Latria's haha.

Harvest Valley fills you with a sense of dread, what could possibly await us between its bland nearly untextured hills?

Shrek and Jabba the Hutt

Spooky.
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>>163563138
He should have said "Dark Souls 2 pre-release network test version is awesome, I like it a lot more than 1."

He hadn't even played Dark Souls 2 at that it wouldn't be released for another 3 months. All he was going off of was the pre-release demo graphics and the network demo.

>>163563246
>>163563363

Has anyone gotten around to making a graphics mod for Dark Souls 2 that turns up the contrast and narrows the lighting field of view to make it look more like the pre-release version?
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>>163563658
How was he working on the guide with access to only one part of the game?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_JFDPCtXFY

What could have been. Some people dismiss the changes as "graphics" but it really did a lot for the atmosphere and feel of the game. I remember how excited I was when I saw that video for the first time. I like Dark Souls 2, don't get me wrong, but when I compare something like Aldia's Keep in that video to what we got, I can't help but think of how badly the other areas could have been downgraded design-wise.

I would have liked to see what the original Earthen Peak was like, I hate that area in the full game, it looks so ugly and the enemies are so out of place (outside Mytha I guess, but she's also not a very creative design) but I like the basic idea of the area.
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>>163563658
>>163564275
Okay, fuck it


Apparently dark souls 2 has ENB presets.

I have a shitty laptop, but god damn I am going to start tweaking post processing and try to get the game looking right.
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>fuck around while invading a fightclub
>watch them for a bit
>host is clearly hacking and thinks nobody notices
>shoot a greatarrow at him to fuck with him then wait until he sees me
>he starts teleporting to people
>jump off
>retard teleports straight into the killbox and dies
good fun
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Hey dudes, got a couple of newfag questions. When I reinforce a weapon to +5, why does it then disappear from my reinforcing list? I'm supposed to be able to reinforce it in different ways past +5, right?

Also, is lighter armor with less poise but less weight considered favorable, or heavier armor with higher defense and poise but shittier rolling? Or is this just a matter of play style with neither being objectively better?
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>>163565258
>When I reinforce a weapon to +5, why does it then disappear from my reinforcing list? I'm supposed to be able to reinforce it in different ways past +5, right?
Most likely you just don't have the ember yet. Until you have the ember, you won't be able to upgrade past +5.
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>>163565605
I figured that was probably the case, but usually in game menus when you can do a thing that you just don't have the required things for, it still shows but is dimmed out. Thanks for clarifying though.
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Please cure my ignorance, how the fuck did this guy write this?
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>>163565258
For PvE you can wear literally anything. Usually being able to roll is a lot more advantageous against most bosses and enemies.
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>>163566263
cheatengine
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>>163564275
>>163564345
i really don't get why they couldn't just use the same lightning as in ds1? it was completely black regardless of gamma and monitor settings inside like tomb of giants
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>>163565258
>Also, is lighter armor with less poise but less weight considered favorable, or heavier armor with higher defense and poise but shittier rolling? Or is this just a matter of play style with neither being objectively better?
As long as you aren't fatrolling (over 50% equip load), you're good. Armor does make a fair difference to damage taken, and poise is really helpful. Whether that's worth midrolling over fastrolling is up to your own preference, but if the lighter armor doesn't change your rolling tier, the only reason to use it over heavier stuff is for fashion.
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>>163566420

OK.
I saw that and I thought what the fuck.
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anyone else likes to kill dancer first thing possible and play as a warrior princess

that armor is so damn gorgeous
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QUICK! POST YOUR BEST INVASION BASED GREENTEXT STORY!!

I'LL START:

>Invading Settlement on my Ninja themed twink at BL30
>Invade a world, end up with a few minor skirmishes but nothing major
>Eventually him and his buddy just run back to the bonefire and let me snipe at them
>I take a break and decide to wait for them to lose patience
>After 5 minutes of waiting, I break and decide to investigate what they're up to
>IT'S A FUCKING ITEM TRANSFER IN PROGRESS
>I SPRINT LIKE A MADMAN
>GRAB AN ITEM OFF THE FLOOR
>+1 Firelink Greatsword
>Actually manage to retreat afterwards
>Equip it immediately and run around showing off my loot like a smug prick until they kill me

Literally the best. I got to do something vaguely "Ninja" on my Ninja and not only that, but I managed to fucking invalidate/waste somebody's entire playthrough by stealing an item made from the final boss' soul.
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>>163566513
>As long as you aren't fatrolling (over 50% equip load), you're good.
Fatrolling is fine in PvE aslong as you have a greatshield.
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>>163567562
>invading in archives
>end up against a host and three phantoms, all of which are clearly friends playing together over voip
>running battle from the lowest level all the way to the bridge before the first elevator
>in the middle of the melee i manage to pick off the phantoms, one by one, until i get a plunging attack on the host
>repeat virtually this exact same scenario with the same group of people three more times consecutively

I don't know if they thought I was some kind of avenging phantom put in to their game to punish them but I don't think i'll ever experience a moment like that again.
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>>163534830
what


what the fuck

is this dude crying that he does not like onlyafro or something? i don't get it, he just sounds like an idiot
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>>163567574
If you're using a greatshield, you're already nigh invincible, so why gimp your stamina regen and movement speed any more than you have to?
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>invade some dude
>spawn near boss door
>the dumb faggot runs ALL THE WAY BACK TO THE FUCKING BONFIRE so he can summon a phantom
>try to kill him, he does the shit where he only runs away and sometimes turns around for a random r1
>parry his ass repeatedly, keeps chugging
>have to switch weapon
>kill him with rollcatches and chug punishes before he finds one that loads in
I fucking hate players like this. They're easy as fuck to kill, but it drives me up the fucking wall how retarded the DS3 devs had to be to make defensive play THIS strong.

It was a problem in previous souls games already to an extent but jesus fuck they took it to a whole new level
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>>163567562
>new-ish character based solely off dual caestus because why not
>pissing about in Irithyll, parries for days on these shitty knights
>get invaded when I go back to the central bonfire
>waitinggame.exe
>guy comes down the path after a couple minutes, wish I had a seed to fuck his day up
>he's running caestus offhand with a broadsword
>let him get first hit in, then start trying to dodge and punch
>he starts parry spam with caestus
>block this, fgt
>perseverance and L1 spam, expecting him to move away
>he tries to parry me five times in a row as I pummel him to death
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>>163568440
Because greatshield and fat as fuck armor is a pretty cool way to roll.

Just because it's sub-optimal doesn't mean you shouldn't. You don't eat a green blossom before every bossfight either, right?
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Who wants to help a nigga out on ps4 with a transfer?
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What do you guys think of "Dullahan"?
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>>163571183
I want to ask but I fear the answer will just be CE
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>>163571223
What is thy question upon thy lips of sorrow and unending questions
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Someone help me with Smol Lake?
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>>163571183
The length of the blade on his scythe is fucking ridiculous tbqhwy. But I haven't played that one yet.
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Anyone on ps4 willing to Christmas me a prisoner's chain? Pass is dsg, I'm at the cleansing chapel bonfire.
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>>163571437
I'm right there, putting my sign behind the siegward well
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How much poise do you need to tank a 2h greatsword r1?
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>>163571276
How to be headless
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>>163571640
Thanks a lot!
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>>163571751
communal education

sorry D:
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>>163571640
I don't see it.
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>>163539304
>>163539304

I couldnt figure out how to un-zombie my character, so I made a new qt.

Rate??
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which one of this not-souls soulslike should I get??
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>invade a fightclub
>rather than fighting at a 30% HP disadvantage, I shoot greatarrows at the faggots and make them look for me
>host eventually just turns on hacks and kills me from across the map without seeing me

Why do people do this shit
fucking host unembered you niggers
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>>163572152
>He plays on pc
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>>163571183
Damn dude, you just invaded alongside me

good on you for shanking that annoying ass mage host
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Are bows and crossbows any good in DS1? I've only fucked with mine a little bit and it doesn't seem particularly effective at first glance.
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>>163572660
You should see the guy that's constantly running away with a curved greatsword that just tries to run behind a corner then charge his R2.

So fucking annoying man.
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>>163572724
They're a good addition any arsenal, but downright masochistic to use as your primary damage source. Stick a Light Crossbow offhand if you can spare the weight and it'll save your ass more times than you'd expect.
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>>163572816
What's that armor on you? I recognize vilhelms helmet
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>>163572097
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>>163573101
All Vilhelm's, I'm just craned at a weird angle in the backstab pose
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>>163572987
Right on man, I had not thought of off-handing one but I can see this being cool. Thanks.
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>>163567562
>invade high wall at release, sl ~10+1
>scaled down dropping items
>run up and grab an item, rofap+2
>phantom backsteps, waves when he realizes im just taking items
>drops endgame gear (outrider armor, tryhard winswords, more +2 rings) then punches at the host
>equip my brand new +10 heavy greatsword and kill him
>adds me on steam, says that the friend he was giving items to was a cunt and that he cant wait to see his reaction
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Can I post in this thread even if I'm Australian?
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>>163573728
fuck off cunt we're full
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Where to get twinkling titanite to upgrade onyx sword early game?
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I'm level 37 on my first playthrough. Tell me if I've been spending my attribute points well. Clearly I haven't been into magic yet other than pyromancy (pyro was my starting class).

Vit 20, Att 12, End 24, Str 16, Dex 18, Res 12, Int 10, Faith 8

My favorite weapon so far is my halberd.
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>turn game on
>play a few matches in the arena, 15 or so
>have a good set up, win and lose against diverse types of r1
>quit game
>ok. is that it? this is the pinnacle of soul series? is this it? this is the fucking end? i've seen everything?
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>>163574110
Literal nigger spotted
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>>163574140
Literal jewishill spotted
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>>163574110
>turn souls game on
>beat pve
>boot up to do a few pvp matches then fuck off
>quit game
Congratulations, you bought a FROM Software Soulsborne anthology entry
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daily reminder of the nigger problem
-----> >>163574216
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>>163573886
Trade with crow, lizard behind firelink, 2 lizards on the road of sacrifices, 2 lizards at cathedral should get it to +2 or +3 or something before the deacons
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>>163574110
The only one I've finished was Bloodborne, so I'm not sure if what I'm about to say is representative of the whole series, but I thought PvP was pretty fun just for jacking off, but it absolutely wasn't the pinnacle of the game. The PvE game was the meat and potatoes. I can't even believe I gave this shitpost a serious reply.
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>>163573986
You're doing fine. End is a god stat out to 40, when the stamina gains stop. You probably won't want to bother with Int or Faith on that character, as it's much better to fully invest into only two damage stats than half-ass all four. Pyro's good enough anyway, and it needs no level investment whatsoever.
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>>163573986
That's perfectly solid, good job not levelling res, int, or faith. if you're interested in advice, probably shoot for 23 att, 27 str, and 40 dex.
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>>163574373
you seem to have an obsession with black cocks
sorry i'm all white 4 inch of pure androgynous penis

>>163574310
I beat dark souls 3 more than other games too, but the arena with uneven ground, no reward, is boring and that's what everyone plays to duel.

>>163574432
maybe you should fuck off and die then if you haven't even finished any other game. pve is fine but the potential is shat. Invasion in dark souls 3 is bottom tier too, not because it's not fair by the way.
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>>163572136
Dragon's Dogma.
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what is the current sl meta?
what will the meta be in the inevitable 'complete edition' rerelease?
i havent played since 1.03 and i had nonstop activity at sl99
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i can't believe you even discuss about dark souls 3 every day. oh wait it's fine since you're not all the same people posting every day in this thread, right?
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is there anywhere to get yourself summoned in DS3 at SL125 except the kiln? does anyone else actually still pve at that level?
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>>163574835
120
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>>163574905
i could get summoned at nameless and princes some times but probably not anymore. there's the DLC, in which people use their 120 characters to beat that they had before it came out.
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>>163574110
You aren't really playing the game until you spend 10x more time looking at stats screens than actually playing.

Souls is for the people who have their skin crawl when they're not optimizing or trying something new.
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>>163575087
dark souls 3 isn't a good example for that for PVP

everything is same, you start looking at your inventory and you go through weapons and items and its all nope nope nope used already

pve is great for just playing through

oh and if you have to spend that much time in stat screens, there's something that's not right about how you see things. I wonder what it could be, because it's not that necessary.
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Does the twin princes stance r2 do as much stamina damage as a claymore gaurdbreak?
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>>163575054
I've tried nameless and friede, since i thought they're supposed to be the two hardest bosses that a lot of people would want help with, but there's been nothing. i guess they're also too fuck out of the way for most people to bother with. oh well, getting summoned semi regularly at the kiln will do.
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>>163575458
Somehow people summon constantly for the twin princes. Super easy fight, lots of souls, decent chance of the host being in ng+ for extra souls.
You're on PC, right?
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>get summoned for gaping dragon
>drake sword
>knight shield
>channeler isn't dead and buffs the dragon
>host tries to turtle against it and gets promptly slaughtered
I don't know what I expected.
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Yup, that is DEFINITELY Irina.

where's that one anon with the collage of the misnamed people?
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>>163575639
i got one too
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>>163558307

Learn to fashion
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>>163575767
its a shame fashion souls is dead and didnt update for ds3
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>>163576013
maybe cause das2 and das3 are on whole different levels of difference
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>>163576068
>different levels of difference
what
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ded game
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>>163561589
A lie will remain a lie.
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>tfw no dlc2 trailer yet
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Rate my DS2 poise tank, designed to still roll while using Iron Flesh. LSS is fire infused

260 poise should be enough to trade with pretty much every weapon in the game, right?

Would Zweihander be a better choice than LSS for it's 2-hit R1s?
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So l never managed to meet up earlier.

Is anyone on ps4 willing to christmas me the prisoner's chain? I'm at the cleansing chapel, I'll mule anything you need in exchange.
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I can't seem to beat someone who spams homing soul mass. I have to play his game and it puts me at a big disadvantage unless I respect for the soul purpose of using great magic barrier or great magic shield. What should I do? Crossbows dont really work since soul mass has a great chance of hitting you before the animation of it starts up.
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>>163577314
poise in ds2 is wonky, dont bother
also lss is trash why did people use it all the time
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>>163577381
*re-spec
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>>163577314
Whoops, didn't realize I was at 51% load.

How about this?

Fast roll w/o iron flesh, fat roll with iron flesh. Fire infused LSS and pyromancy, baiting people with great combusion and chaos storm.
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>>163577385
Because it has insane AR at low level investment?

I'm going off these values:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-iCrOdAGp3uQ9I0VgQYU2Ug2d4w2PbQZhBnobLakaMs/pubhtml

260 poise should let me shrug off 90% of weapons
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>>163576837
The quality of Soulsborne games are inversely proportional to the size of their levelup-waifu's breasts.
DaS1 and BB were the best, bonfires don't have tits and the plain doll is flat as a board.
DeS and DaS3 are pretty good, and the MiB and the Firekeeper have roughly average chests.
DaS2 is the worst Souls game and Shanalotte is fucking stacked.
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I don't like magic...
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>>163577381
Stick really really close so that they can't cast it without getting hit. Play VERY aggressively.
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>>163577578
are you taking the stone ring into consideration. Most of my builds use one when I played ds2.
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>>163577381
spell parry shield will make them cry
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>>163577385
>poise in ds2 is wonky, dont bother
Hyperarmor is invaluable and not understanding how it works doesn't make it "wonky", it makes you a retard
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>>163577685
I don't think anyone uses stone ring anymore because no one poise tanks, and even if they did, it's only used on 15 poise damage or lower weapons (rapiers).

I was doing a full havel build with Orma and Reeves, and poising through attacks constantly.
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>>163577357
I will. Still up for it? I need to transfer some shit to my new character.
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>>163578176
Yes! Pass is dsg. I'll head for the chapel unless you want high wall?
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>>163577759
Ive had people use this on me when I tried rolling a caster and even though they seem to time it perfectly i still end up doing damage to them. Its not worth it imo
>>163577681
ive tried this but its easier said than done. I guess I need to git gudder. I am actually really good but its not like i can properly quantify or explain that I am in fact skilled and not just talking out my ass.
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Want to do another DaS1 run (just fun, not speed or PvP) but am out of ideas.

Dubs decides how I play it. Keep in mind that I'm a scrub so nothing too difficult please.
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>>163578247
What have you already done?
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>>163578224
I'll need highwall for my new character so yeah. I'll drop your ring then I need to get on my other char to drop stuff for my new char if ya dont mind
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>>163578227
>>163577681
I tend to play UGS/GS most of the time and this is the correct response to casters. As soon as I see them start to cast I sprint at them and try to roll attack, then you just don't let up.

You have to be willing to take 25-30% of your health in damage on the approach, so that you can combo them to death as soon as you get close.

The problem with casters is that they can't do anything while casting, and changing spells requires some fingerwork that makes them panic roll a lot when you get close.

Learn to let your self take damage to get into the right position, then just roll punish them hard as they try to back away. Try to overwhelm them and box them in a corner.
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>>163578376
Sounds good, heading on over. If you have a spare Elite knight set also, that'd be awesome. Strictly unexpected though.
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>>163576152
wait I thought i knew what it meant but thinking now i cant quite wrap my head around it
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>>163578364
I've done dex/miracles (my favorite so far), I've done one or two cosplay builds, I've done a fuckaround build, and most recently (still quite a while ago), I've done a BigGuy4U strength/poise tank build.
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>>163578227
if they timed it right they obviously wouldn't have taken damage. and HSM is like one of the easiest things to roll through. im assuming you're playing 2 since you said re-spec and as far as im aware 3 cant do that. did you make sure to level ADP?
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>>163578247
mlgs build
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>>163578668
How about a true great sword of Artorias build ascending the starting broken sword into it ASAP?
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>>163578767
you can re roll your stats in 3 and I am talking about 3.
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>>163578501
Ok drop your summon sign now
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>>163578935
Roger, sign down.
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I started invading in DS3, and holy shit, why are invasions so fucking terrible in this game?

>every world has at least one phantom summoned already
>a blue gets summoned literally every time
>connection is even worse than DS2

What the fuck?
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>>163578935
Was there anything else?
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>>163578978
Thanks guy. Good luck to ya. Thanks for the fsp ring
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>>163579234
No prob, I was worried it was yours! Thanks for the help and merry Christmas or whatever you enjoy.
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>>163579015
git gud
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>>163579270
Nope but it'll save me the trouble of grabbing it later. Merry Christmas!
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>>163578247
Do the following shortcuts, in this order:
1. Master key to havel, then clear darkroot basin, get the blacksmith, havel's ring, etc.
2. Approach forest covenant/sif from behind using the ladder shortcut after the hydra
3. jump to lower undead burg to do the capra demon and get your ember,
4. kill ingward to open the gates and kill four kings early, get Kaathe,
5. use blighttown skip from valley of the drakes to kill quelaag
6. Use the chaos covenant lost izalith skip (use the darkwraith covenant to farm humanity, then join the chaos covenant once you have it)

From there, just proceed through the game as normal. Use ash lake and the leeches for your weapon farming so you can get OP very fast.
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>>163579590
>>163578247
a few OP/fun weapons you can get super early on (before ringing either bell), to try out:

>Zweihander or Winged Spear with Magic or Divine upgrade path (farm blighttown leeches)
>Any twinkling titanite weapon, like BKS or Astora Straight Sword (farm ash lake clams)
>Dragon Greatsword +4 (ash lake scales + 1 from the Darkroot hydra)
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>filename related
>"Alright! I can see I will have to teach you what invading is!"
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>>163579365
more like git a refund
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>>163580006
I dont understand whats happening in your shitty webm.
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Do darkmoon invasions literally not work in ds1 PC or is it just everyone that still plays never indicts?

Not on my end because other invasions work fine
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>>163580139
I'm being an asshole to an idiot.

>invading
>heal because lol no ember and INVADING

>claps

>CLAPPING INTENSIFIES
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>>163580139
Typical PC virgin getting mad because he can't hit the host because he fucking sucks / because he's playing DS3 pvp, so he resorts to hack weapons, and then claps like he actually did something special in his miserable 300lb life
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>>163580006
>cuckshade unironically
>unfunny reddit memes in filename
>buttlivid script kiddy curses opponents he cant beat fairly

you are the cancer of this community. bloodlust yourself
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>>163580191
People rarely indict, dickwraiths don't tend to invade in areas where they haven't killed the boss, forest hunters don't even have to be human for their invasions so even if they do get indicted they're never vulnerable. You can do alright in Anor Londo, but really your best source of ears will probably be farming them from Crow Demons in Painted World.
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>>163580103
lol
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>>163580403
lolposting should be against the fucking rules desu

tired of people wasting precious internet juice on this dumbass fucking response
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>>163580449
lol
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>>163580237
What you got mad at someone clapping at you? How much of an insecure lardass are you?
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>>163580449
lolposting should be against the fucking rules desu tired of people wasting precious internet juice on this dumbass fucking responseposting should be against the fucking rules
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>>163580449
lol
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>>163580403
>>163580449
>>163580472
>>163580496
>>163580523


samefag
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>>163580449
l_l
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>>163580602
Lol
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>>163580491
Soulless what the fuck is your problem?
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>>163516769
it's because you're too worried about effectiveness desu
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>>163577104
That's cool and all but can you please stop exploding in my face?
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>>163583339
That's what she said.
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>finally got a PS4
>have DS3 on PC but considering rebuying on PS4 because my PC can't even have a stable framerate for online at the dancer fight and gets kicked back to the title screen

Oh well, that's after I finish Bloodborne I guess.
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>>163583954
>wasting your money on DS3 AGAIN
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>>163584073
bought it on steam with money I made selling virtual hats in a dead game, not really a loss on my part

plus I enjoyed it and heard the DLC is good
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>>163584232
>heard the DLC is good
From fucking WHO
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>>163584272
Who?

Fucking From
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>>163584272
shrug, some people in /dsg/ a while back saying it was about as good/long as the Artorias DLC
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>>163584428
>does nothing important or cool lorewise / level wise
>two bosses
>as good as/longer than AotA
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HSGS or Claymore? I can get a touch more damage from the former at low/mid SLs and the moveset is somewhat more interesting, but maybe less flexible and seems a tad shy on range.
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Am I scum for invading SL80 with +2 rings? It's only fair with all the ganking...
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>>163584678
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>>163584678
I'm invading sl21 with +2 Rings, raw dragonslayer axe+2, Avelyn+1, silvercat ring, prisoner chain, hornet, and obscuring ring.

Come on. Become a finger of Rosaria.
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In the name of the Covenant of the Blades of the Darkmoon, you're under arrest, Pontiff.
Are you threatening me, Master Gwyndolin?
The Covenant will decide your fate.
I AM the Darkmooon Covenant!
Not yet.
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>>163585271
If Sulyvahn is Sheev, then who is Darth Vader?
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I summoned a friend to fight Dragonslayer Armour and he wasn't able to get trough the fog.

Is this a new bug or some shit? It's never happened to me before.
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>>163585325
Gwyndolin
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>>163585325
>are you threatening me?
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>>163585325
Aldritch, how is this even a question?
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Would you summon me?
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>>163585414
Yes
Then I'd crystal you out immediately after
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>load up dark souls 3
>no new patch
>no dlc news
>close dark souls 3
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>>163585414
just get your gfs already
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>>163585414
No, cause I'd be playing a better game
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>>163585797

People still play DS1?
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>>163585947
yes
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>be playing des for the first time, mostly blind, this shit is hard as fuck
>cheese the maneaters by shooting the first one through the fog
>know that the next boss is the old monk, but didn't know he was literally right after the wombo combo
>go get my ass kicked by him once
>decide to drop my soul sign to see if i can help someone else and get my body back and summon someone myself in turn
>get summoned pretty quickly, and pleasantly surprised, didn't think there was still this much activity
>load in wearing the silly hat as a red phantom in the boss room
>host dies to squidward before he even makes to to me
>mfw

Holy shit I had no idea this was a thing. Pretty fuckin cool. Is it possible for me help or get help or is it only 1v1 in here against either another player or the npc monk?
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>>163585414

>Fatboy armor

Never
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>>163587592

Old Monk was one of the experiences that sold me on Souls.
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>"Oh, Ashen One, thou hast journeyed far..."
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>>163580796
I bann him I bann him
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Dead Thread.
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Going to start playing DSII.
How do I avoid getting soft banned?
I don't plan on cheating but there are too many stories.
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>>163590673

Just don't cheat.
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>>163590734
I tried to make the game borderless windowed (which didn't work), is it already too late for me?
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>>163590876

You can do that. Don't do stuff like Soul Memory editing. I've edited my SM, but that was near the release and the cheat detectors might have been updated since then.
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>tfw no fume sword
>reversed 1h/2h straightsword movesets
>vertical 1h r1s
>horizontal 1hr2s
>broadsword 1h rolling attack
>vertical 1h running attack
>horizontal 2hr1s
>lunging 2hr2 with vertical followup
>broadsword 2h rolling attack
>horizontal 2h running attack
>neat flavor WA that differs from normal straightswords like shield splitter, or weapon skill >>163590876

>low base damage
>extreme strength scaling, nil dex
>66/10 str/dex +5 = 456 AR 1h, 478 AR 2h
>heavy stamina consumption
>noticeably slower than other straight swords
>very heavy compared to other axes, straight swords, katanas, or thrusting swords
>cant be buffed

>>163590876
>tfw cheated directly to 838 eithout modifying soul memeory and havent been banned

ded game anyway
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>>163590673
you won't encounter players aside from few lowbie pve babies in bell tower so there's no possibility of getting banned unless you fuck up something by yourself
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>>163583954
Yep, that's me basically. Except that Dancer fight was okay for me, it's DSA and Pontiff fights that turn into slideshows.
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Why am I having so much fun going through DaS1 again every 2 months but whenever I try to do a second playthrough of 2 or 3 I get bored in a few hours?
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>>163592175
because 2 and 3 a shit.
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>tfw found the ultimate SL120(+5) meta
>google build ideas
>no one has ever had the same idea

fugg this gon be gud
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Just finished DS3 for the first time. here's my thoughts

Game was pretty guud. Overall it was too easy and bonfires were too plentiful, but a handful of really challenging bosses kept it interesting and even the weak bosses made for pretty cool set pieces. DS3 feels like the word "accessibility" was tossed around a lot during dev meetings.

Lots of fanservice and throwbacks to previous games which I enjoyed. The lore is actually pretty interesting if you happen to give a fuck, and I liked trying to piece together shit myself

Overall, felt like a complete game from start to end, unlike DS1 which went to shit for a good while after the 4 golden gates appeared. Still, the good parts of DS1 and the overall difficulty/pacing of that game felt better as a whole than DS3. It was a thorough and complete game with some great highlights and a satisfying conclusion to the souls series.

fuck those boreal ice knight faggots though
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>>163591424
>mfw the only reason DeS and DaS don't get constantly shit on is the lack of easy clip recording back in the day
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>>163592896
What did you think of the DLC?

>DS3 feels like the word "accessibility" was tossed around a lot during dev meetings.

Yep, the game flows naturally in a way that one and done people will find everything on their first run basically that's my take.
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>>163593401
>people will find everything on their first run basically
with ds3's convoluted as fuck npc storylines and archdragon peak access?
fuck no unless you're a shitty guide reader
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>>163593214
I've never had that happen, but I'm a newbie and only played like 8-9 hours of PvP. Worst I've had happen to me is lagstabbing.
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>>163592896
>DS3 feels like the word "accessibility" was tossed around a lot during dev meetings
It's most likely a fault of Bamco and not From. They were trying to screw up with a formula for a long time now. At least DS3 has genuinely good level design unlike 2 where From literally didn't care and just put bonfires everywhere to cover lack of backtracking through half of the areas.
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>>163593451
Well, I didn't mean the NPC questlines but DaS3 guides you naturally to the "appropriate" weapon upgrade levels and generally the progress of the game more naturally than the other games, which actually turns into a detriment for players looking to get more replayability out of the game.

I hope the next game will have the DaS1 style world but I doubt From can afford to piss off the casuals by taking out warping from the start
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>>163593214
>say something bad about ds2
>especially lag, one of the most common complains about it
>someone instantly tries to derail it to actually good souls games and posts a video with obvious lagswitcher
Every single time.
I don't even hate ds2, but its rabid, braindead fanbase is one of the most horrifying things i saw while playing in souls games.
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>>163593520
3 has just as bad bonfire placement as 2.
Even 1 had several right next to each other, like in demon ruins/daughter of chaos, tomb of giants, firelink shrine/kiln.
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>>163593593
>obvious lagswitcher
Delusional miyacucky.
Do you honestly think DaS1 had a miracle solution to bad ping that they just refused to implement in the next 3 fucking games?
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>>163593714
It's harder to fault The Fair Lady's bonfire, since it's hidden, and there's a loading screen between Shrine and Kiln, which would be complete ass having to go through each time you died to a Black Knight or Gwyn or while farming for Chunks. TotG is arguable.
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>>163593714
>like in demon ruins/daughter of chaos
You realize that one of them is a secret bonfire that can be permanently shut down if you accidentally or on purpose kill the fire keeper?

>firelink shrine/kiln.
Ditto. It's possible to have Anastacia killed by Lautrec and not figure out how to bring her back (or to use up the soul by accident whoops).

>3 has just as bad bonfire placement as 2.
There are still levels that function well around one bonfire like Cathedral of the Deep, High Wall of Lothicc, Grand Archives, Catacombs and Archdragon Peak (with the exception of the one before Nameless but he's hard enough of a boss to warrant it).

There are some boneheaded bonfire placements but the levels themselves function if you just tag the first bonfire per area or the most "central" one (like in the case of Cathedral of the Deep)

Even though AoA has a lot of bonfires, most of them service two directions (like rape bridge cave bonfire functions towards Corvian settlement, Millwood tower, the Friede bonfire towards the roots or the ariandel chapel).
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>>163593865
You know they didn't have to hide an extra bonfire there, right? They didn't even have to put a loading screen between shrine and kiln, but they were lazy.
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>>163594065
>>163594065
>>163594065
New Thread
>>163594065
>>163594065
>>163594065
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>>163594068
>they were lazy

Okay, that's straight retarded.

The Fair Lady needs to have a bonfire because she's a Firekeeper. That's a lore decision. As for not having a loading screen, are you forgetting the game was designed for PS360?

You make your argument much worse by trying to use weak examples like that.
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>>163593989
>like in demon ruins/daughter of chaos
>You realize that one of them is a secret bonfire that can be permanently shut down if you accidentally or on purpose kill the fire keeper?

>firelink shrine/kiln.
>Ditto. It's possible to have Anastacia killed by Lautrec and not figure out how to bring her back (or to use up the soul by accident whoops).

They didn't have to do that. 95% of all bonfires work without firekeeper, why not those? It's a poorly thought out mechanic.
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>>163594182
>As for not having a loading screen, are you forgetting the game was designed for PS360?
Dropping down to 4kings didn't require a loading screen as well. There isn't even a loading screen between undead asylum and lordran, despite those areas not being near each other in the mapviewer.
Kill yourself dasdreck.
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so SotFS is under a tenner lads.

Is there any point in buying when I already have the original DS2 and all DLC?

I've heard mixed things about the new enemy placements and shit. Does it actually add anything worthwhile?
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>>163595121
You gain better lighting, 10 times more activity and some enemy mixups in the base game
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>>163595121

Do you like romhacks?
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