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>INFORMATION & GUIDES
Latest patch: http://www.dota2.com/700
New players: https://purgegamers.true.io/g/dota-2-guide/
Wiki: http://www.dota2.gamepedia.com/
Blog: http://blog.dota2.com/
Lore: http://dev.dota2.com/showthread.php?t=35923
Guides: http://steamcommunity.com/app/570/guides
Cosmetic simulator: http://dotaloadout.com/
Competitive Scene: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/dota2/Main_Page

>STATISTICS
Competitive DOTA 2 analysis: http://www.datdota.com/
DOTA 2 analysis: http://www.dotametrics.wordpress.com/
Personal statistics: http://www.dotabuff.com/
Personal statistics#2: http://www.opendota.com/ (formerly yasp.co)
Hero stats: http://www.devilesk.com/dota2/heroes/herodata/
Hero and DPS calculator: http://www.devilesk.com/dota2/apps/hero-calculator/

>NEWS & STREAMS
http://www.joindota.com/
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>CSGO has more concurrent players than Dota
>Dota just got a big new patch.
Hmm...
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>Stuck at 1800mmr for 2 months
>Start spamming a hero
>raise 400 points in a few days

Jesus fuck he's so broken in pubs it's not ok.

https://www.dotabuff.com/players/230352267/matches
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Hello lads i am back from my ban. What did I miss?
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ILEXA
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Why can't dota girls eat dairy products properly?
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reminder that zai will be streaming truesight ep 3 on his twitch
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>>163463556

The cancer that is killing dota
>jungle spawns nerfed
>kill aoe gold buffed
>kill exp buffed
>shrines that allow constant ganks
>towers falling too fast
>games snowballing to 20 min ends
>a single kill allows the enemy team to get tons of gold despite not farming any creeps all game
>carries carry against teams that run at them
>ganking playstyles trump all the others especially carrying and only memepushing comes second
>support pudges hooking heroes 3 times his networth and solo killing them
>brain dead heroes like slark, PA, huskar, sniper, drow and pudge are stronger than heroes that require skill to play such as visage and chen
>buying an early midas means you lose because the enemy team will snowball and roll you over and end the game by 20 minutes because you didn't buy instant memefighting items like drums or HOTD or sny or SHIT
>all carry players including rtz(lmao even this nigger) have been in pain since 6.81
>meme teamfights and run-at-your-face-as-five dota is constantly pushed as an agenda by that enslaved icefrog faggot so games are "entertaining"

FUCK THIS NO SKILL GAME FUCK IT.
AND FUCK VALVE DRONES.
AND FUCK PEOPLE WHO 5 MAN EARLY.
ROSHAN SHOULD FUCKING LEAVE HIS PIT TO KILL TEAMS THAT DO THAT
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>>163463868
When? 6 PM central?
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>>163463868
eta till True sight?
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I play a lot of CK. Played some games and found that maelstrom is the farming item of choice for him. It's especially good now since illusions benefit from the attack speed.
Feel free to ask me CK related questions.
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most autistic heroo??
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>7.00 is by far the most controversial Dota update to date
>Might as well be called Dota 3 by this point
>Horrible design choices, removing features for literally no reason
>New bugs every day
>The playerbase is already rapidly decreasing
W-will 2017 be the year Dota finally dies..?
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>>163464001
>playing core CK
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>>163464016
Pudge. Delete him.
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>>163463960
>>163463990
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>>163464016
Anti-Mage, farming patterns and shit yo
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>>163464001
Tell me what skills to level up and what items to get and if I can midas on him or not because I can get a 7 minute midas on him when I jungle him. What about aghs? Is it good?
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>>163464039
>jugg arcana
>russian major
No way its dying anytime soon
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>>163464039
Well considering that Dota has lost 200k players since the patch and can barely scrape over 900k concurrent players, It looks like they really fucked up this time.
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>>163464183
Russians are bad.
They're bug abusers, hackers and have no tier 1 teams since vp fucked up.
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genuine question

i transferred colleges and got accepted, but just found out today that i failed out of my previous college

what does this do to the transfer acceptance, i tried googling but there is 0 precedent for this online

thanks /d2g/ have a great day
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>play pudge
>buy aether
>buy atos
>guaranteed hook everytime
>win
there is just gave you a ez +25 mmr now give me (You)s
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>sole objective is to gain more players
>lose an enormous amount of players post-update
What did Valve mean by this?
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>Whenever monkey king is the game he loses
Uhhh.. Dotards

???
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https://clips.twitch
.tv/moonducktv/ShinyDonkeyWinWaker

I thought he was supposed to be our guy??
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>>163464281
Retake exams. Dunno if you have to do it at your previous college
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Is Crystal Maiden the cutest hero in Dota land?
These blue eyes and that blonde hair is so cute! I wonder how caressing her skin would feel like
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>want to gain more players
>add a bunch on new shit to make game more casual
>hardcore players dont like the casualization
>new players have a larger barrier to entry with new shit to learn
>alienate both parties
>lose tons of players
this game will be dead by 2018
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>>163464404
haha le funny meme man made a silly voice :D
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>>163464281
You might be declined.
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>>163464443
She's a filthy whore and caressing her skin should feel like caressing any generic girl on the street. Think of all the dicks that have cummed on that filthy skin.
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Don't worry /d2g/ theres a new patch just dropped that will solve all the problems
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>>163452632
Kokonoe's mom. She uses normals to make elemental balls and another one to give herself a spell depending on what 3 balls she has.

Literally invoker except she's top tier while he's a joke
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>>163464436

my new college is going to make me retake, or are you saying I should retake the ones back at the old one? because if it's the latter thats actually impossible

>>163464553

i'm already accepted though.

cant they only rescind me, and isnt that extraordinarily rare
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>>163464173
Early midas can be good if you can get it quick, especially if you see the game going late. Generally get attack speed items that help you do damage with your illusions.
For skills, Rift is worse at level 1 and better at level 4 since the latest patch. So get 1 point in stun, then max rift, putting points into crit and ult as you see fit.
Aghs is good if you have a teammate whose illusions would do a lot of work, like a terrorblade or something like that.
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who /goodboyforchristmas/ here?
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>>163464604
Delete post 6.81 dota.

>>163464617
Retake at your current one. Because you can't get a degree if you there's things you can't passed.
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>>163463908
Literally everything your bitching about isn't objectively bad, you just don't like it because it's new/different and it doesn't accommodate to your playstyle.

The point of this patch is to make the game much more fluid and seemingly quicker, instead of there being " big " " points/instances " of the game ( getting X item, pushing X tower, ganking X person/lane ) it is all strung together. This makes the game feel super fluid and less grindy.

>Ganking play styles trump everything else

Wow dude, that's so horrible. Instead of sitting in a late and clicking on creeps, the game forces you to do something. Farming is also totally viable it's just a bit more difficult now, Anti-Mage is still requires 30:00 of farm in 7.01 and he's fucking kick ass. Stop bitching because you haven't figured out how to play yet.

>buying an early midas means you lose because the enemy team will snowball and roll you over and end the game by 20 minutes

Are you fucking retarded? Midas is a good item it's just circumstantial and depends on what hero you're playing. It's even better this patch because of talents.


>meme teamfights and run-at-your-face-as-five dota is constantly pushed as an agenda by that enslaved icefrog faggot so games are "entertaining

How are 5 man team fights memes? How is people working together bad? Like I honestly don't understand what your issue is. It's different but it's not worse

The only thing I agree with you on is Pudge solo killing anyone, that shit's fucking ridiculous.
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>>163464281
Not sure how is it in us, since i guess youre from there, but in europe, at least in my country, if you switch uni's you need to leave the first one, get the transcript of your grades/points from the previous one to file that in at signing in at the other uni, along with some other birocratic papers and thats pretty much it, doesnt matter if you left the first uni with all stuff failed or passed or whatever
Thats how i went through it few years back
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>>163464043
Core CK might be better now than it was before.
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>>163464789
Dude you're just trash, get good noob.
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>>163464963
Excellent retort my dude. I must concede to your superior argument.
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>>163464732
I think I'm getting coal
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>>163465041
stop fucking raging, it's bad for your health
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>>163464757

i took meme general ed classes so i could transfer this year, theyre not related to my actual major

>>163464831

sounds somewhat similar to whats going on now, hope i don't get jewed out of my acceptance because a professor actually has a vendetta against me
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http://store.steampowered.com/stats/

lol.
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>>163464001
This is what I have been saying a few times lately. One of the major turnoffs for any form of damage item for CK was that the illus do not get damage from Battlefury or attack speed from Maelstrom.

But now that he has both lifesteal and his illus get attack speed, he can get a quick maelstrom and farm faster than before, and not have to go to base due to crit lifesteal. This is a good thing for CK, but it will take a while for this to take effect in most peoples build.

Moon Shard, Butterfly, Mjollnir are now also even more viable than before on Chaos Knight.
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>>163465126
how do I post this on reddit for karma?
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>>163464039
>>163464193
Stop shitposting. They've literally lost 0% of their playerbase.
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Which dotamon has the most satisfying auto attack sound?
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How fucking desperate are gotards to be relevant rofl just ignore the 300k gap between peak players they have 30k more people playing right now
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lol
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>>163464682
So you max rift first. What do you max second? Stun or crit? Is it okay to keep crit at level 1 and then max it last?

How do you handle earthshakers, embers and other heroes that counter you?

>>163464789

>Are you fucking retarded? Midas is a good item it's just circumstantial and depends on what hero you're playing. It's even better this patch because of talents.
Did you read what I said after that? It's not that midas is bad. It's the fact that if you don't build memefight items like shitquila or drums or HOTD you won't be able to stand up to the retards running at your face every single game. BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO FIGHT ALL THE TIME

>How are 5 man team fights memes? How is people working together bad? Like I honestly don't understand what your issue is. It's different but it's not worse
It doesn't take fucking skill to 5 man every hero you see. It should cost you a bunch of resources but because of the shrines, you can literally tp behind anyone thats trying to rat so if you 5 man, you win every time. The enemy team literally has no counter to that anymore.
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>>163463908
>Some friend's party ask me for assistance to get out of LPQ
>Sure
>Pick Spectre from my given pool
>Get double kill early on
>I'm keeping a good farming pace despite enemy trying to gank me
>Allies struggle play from behind
>Be like 5/0/6
>Wonder why it takes so long to get enough gold for my items despite having an excellent pace
>Still get my stuff in a timely manner and win
>Feels altogether something's odd, check replay later
>The enemy Leshrac who was snowballing out of my team has like an order of magnitude more GPM despite him not farming at all
>Killing creeps barely raises my GPM
>Only noticeable jumps is when i use haunt into kills

Farming is dead, didn't noticed earlier because i usually play roaming but jesus christ its downright suboptimal now
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>game receives the biggest update so far
>csgo who only gets money grabbing case updates suppresses player numbers
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>>163465283
I mean listen, you have to understand that CSGO is the most popular First Person Shooter in the world, this is important news for the future of the shooter genre, allowing them to become larger in terms of population of people playing the game in certain countries that have not yet been trendset in the mindset of the players playing the game, allowing them to gain a large amount of popularity within several cultures, which in turn can grant several benefits for the playerbase of the game in general. However, if the playerbase is not shown the way certain rural areas in certain countries play the game, they will not be growing in spurts of players, disallowing them from the growth they would ordinarilly be allowed to have due to such spurts of firing. The Coconut People, play in Spurts, if you know the advertisement, you can join in too
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our guy is streaming dotards!!!
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>>163465219
You're an idiot, Check 6.8 and then check post 7.00

Dota always reached 1 mil concurrent players.
Since patch 7.00? Can barely get over 900k.
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>>163465180
I've always liked butterfly on CK when I would need evasion.
But most of the time lately I've been going maelstrom into AC, bkb if I need it, and then tank up with skadi since it's not a UAM anymore.
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>>163465372
I understand your viewpoint about Midas, team fight items are bit more viable now. But boo fucking hoo dude, one item in the game got kind of nerfed due to a change in the meta. It's still a good item on some heroes eg. invoker Like that's such nit picky bullshit.

" People who work together better fucking suck, why should they be able to work together and succeed because of it? " " I'm a giant fucking autist and want to solo play everything. "
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I's finally here I never have to play with you retards ever again all hail the age of the machine

https://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/5jszu2/simply_better_bots_v11/
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>>163465643
>shit fotm meme
>unironic reddit link

Why did we let this happen to /d2g/
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>zai listening to pretty good techno
nice
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reminder that 7.00 was a mistake
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>>163465372
Max stun second, then crit last.
As for the counters, mostly hope for the best. Always try to jump those heroes that can kill your illusions quickly. No matter what, even If you need a blink dagger, kill those guys first
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>>163465825
>not looking at OH MAIII GOOOOOOOOOD DUUUUUUUDE DUUUUUUUDE HOW IS THAT EVEN BALANCED? guy
your loss
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>>163465745
Everything started to go bad when people let the anime posters post freely
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>steam sale
>everyone who was tied to the game bored out of their mind are now playing better, more fun games
holy shit
its over
dota is finished
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>>163465930
>Garry's mod that high
how is that possible?
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Remember, playercount is only irrelevant when your game has low playercount.
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>>163463660
sauce?
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>>163466083
Its always like that usually, having around 30, 35k, this is probably bit higher now because of the sale, its only 5 euros right now and probably lot of the players in there are just idling on the acc to get the 1 year playtime achievement
Its a really fun and nice game to play with friends, lots of retarded and idiotic stuff to do and have a lot of fun
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>>163464343

>He needs crutches to hit hooks
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>>163466083
it has a lot of content, not A+++ content but a lot of it
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>>163465619
>working together/=/5-people running at your face
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>>163466374
Not everyone can be a 6k pro like (you) anon.

In all honesty it's pretty bullshit though now that Atos can fit into Pudge's build.
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>>163466163
Shut up /pol/
This game is dying because ppd jewed the chinks by winning ti5 and DAC. They lost interest because of that. We are losing a chink every day killing this game to the very core.
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>>163466374
I can tho but with atos it's literally a 100% guaranteed kill
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>>163466374
If hitting hooks is so easy, why isn't pudge picked at all in professional games instead of the hero that needs 5k gold in items to do the same thing on a 90 second cooldown?
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>the bubble finally burst
no wonder this place looks more like /scv/ every time I come here
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>>163466709
what hero are you taling about senpai
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Reminder that Dota 2 peaked in February of 2016 in both average players and peak players.
Since then it has come down -18% in average players
What went right?
What went wrong?
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>>1634666407
the game is dying because the west is dying
Young white people don't exist anymore in EU or USA
Job market is dogshit so they are all busy working overtime
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>>163466739
The cancer that is killing NA dota aka PPD killed dota 2 by praising 6.84 and memefight.
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guys. shes perfect.
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oops forgot pic
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>>163466527
Wow, you're really touched aren't you? You're only looking at things from the person who's on their own's perspective.

If anything this will help balance out MMR because people who are able to work together will naturally rise to the top.
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>fear in a 5.3k average game
lul
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>>163466813
White people never played dota because it was always a free game and white people don't play free games or games that exclude shooting brown people or chinks or Russians. Since dota doesn't have that and call of duty does, it's clear what game they will play.
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>>163467095
but im white and i play this game
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>>163466803
There was player inflation because of the International. It's reverted back to previous numbers since then. Please stop with this meme

>>163466813
That's retarded bullshit, you've based that assumption off of anecdotal bullshit that you've seen on fox news and yahoo news.

>>163466739
Yea, the bubble did burst. Now it's back to where it was previously, nothing really changed.
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www.pcgamer com/dota-2-best-pro-midlaners/


DOTARDS?

1 CHINESE PLAYER?
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>>163464193
you realise most dota players are uni/college students or people with jobs, unlike most other games which are filled with high schoolers?
this time of year, people have exams, people are travelling home/preparing for christmas etc etc
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>>163466882
>>163466950
She isn't my wife and she has tattoos, but otherwise I agree.
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guys I just jerked off 8 times today. is that bad?
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>>163467204
QUICK SPRINT
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>>163467330
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What can be done to open up the less played heroes to more of the playerbase?
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2 LC's in a row on my team that didn't buy blink at all, is this some sort of new meme?
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>He's actually buying HoD on every hero he plays the absolute madman
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>>163467498
Matchmaking goes to shit when there aren't enough normies online. Maybe you're experiencing that.
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>>163467448
Make them easier to play. Everyone should be able to play every hero equally well. Anything else is a construct of the vile patriarchy.
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>>163467448
Make em simpler xd lmao, make the units automatically controlled by the game instead, or make a skill which uses some spells from the creeps at the enemies! :D
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>>163467448
Nerf/delete the ez ones like invoker, tinker, huskar, riki, PA, sniper, drow, kang, sven, INSERT BRAIN DEAD OP HERO HERE

Icefrog needs to stop catering to dumbfucks and design this game for smarter players already.
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>>163467224
how far deep is that dick down your throat?
valve doesn't even pay anyone so you're obviously doing it for free, whats wrong with you senpai
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>>163467448
Delete pudge and slark or nerf them to the ground.
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>>163464831
>european person saying all of europe functions in the same way
what land do you hail from, retard?
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>>163467448
Has there seriously not been a micro tutorial in the game yet? Wtf? The game has basic micro in the form of the illusion rune so you WILL encounter it at some point... Even the simpler heroes like juggernaut requires you to know how to micro properly to be able to use the hero to their fullest potential. There really is no reason not to have a section dedicated to micoroing in the learn/tutorials tab
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>>163467569
I've been trying to do that too but I'm at a level where any results I get don't mean anything.

I'm imagining it's going to be hard to buy hotd on any ranged except medusa because every ranged hero other than medusa has to buy meme pike.

How many different heroes has he gotten it on already? I only saw Juggernaut and that retarded Sven game.
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>>163467782

See
>>163465026
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what degenerate mid should i spam gulag?
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Reminder that anyone that loved farming and has a brain has left this game because valve obviously hates individual effort and wants everyone to group as 5 and cast all their spells and right click every enemy hero you see.
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>>163467834
I said atleast in my country, cant you read?
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WHAT IF YOU HAD HOTKEYS TO USE PLAYER-CONTROLLER CREEPS' ABILITIES WITHOUT NEEDING TO DESELECT YOUR HERO?

EXAMPLE: VISAGE CAN PRESS G AND H FOR HIS TWO FAMILIARS' STUNS
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>>163468006
90% of pub games were that before the patch anyway
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>>163468006
>loved farming and has a brain has left this game
Going back to maplestory general?
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Anti-farming patches are killing this game to make the games more entertaining to watch and less fun to play. Why play the game if it's not meant to be fun? better just watch esports.... Oh wait dotards2 is dropping in viewers on twitch too? Ggwp jump ship.
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>support/offlane player
>forced to go mid one game
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>>163463908
>waaah I can't rice for 45 fucking minutes anymore
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>>163468154
All cuckboys are forced to be men once in a while
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>>163468203
>wtf I love smashing my head into my keyboard and right clicking the enemy hero at every point in the game, since when did creeps even exist lmao
>whoops there's 200k players that left, what could possibly be the case
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>>163468135
it is kinda pissing me off how quickly even comp games turn turn to 5v5 brawling
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>>163464183
>jugg arcana

Yeah, where is that?
Fuck that Monkey King shit, I want my Jugg Arcana and Isle of Mask terrain.
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>>163468406
Bug and performance issue keeping all the third worlders and $200 dollar integrated graphics laptop kiddies out? No?
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What is the problem with this hero that makes buffing him not a possibility?
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>>163468406
>whoops there's 200k players that left, what could possibly be the case
fps
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>omni was picked in 9 out of 10 of my last games
>i only play random draft
Why this piece of shit is always in the hero pool?
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>>163468406
>>163463908
stop spamming this shit and bithcing and post your dotabuff 1k
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5:00 Sing_sing: EDUCATION IS A SCAM KIDS
5:00 Sing_sing: DO DRUGS AND DRINK ALCHOHOL TO LIVE LIFE TO THE FULLEST
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>>163468561
anti fun
very toxic
needs rework
t.icey toad
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>>163468574
>>163468534
I agree with that you're braindead if you don't see that the balance between the viable strats is shit. You are forced to play one way and that's constant 5 man ganking
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>>163468561
Doom is a fundamentally broken spell. Add to that he's a fairly good hero and can jungle very effectively and any buffs to him would result in pub spams and 100% pick/ban in pro matches.
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>>163468561
There is no problem with buffing him since there is not only linkens but also lotus and shit like AM scepter.
This hero is walking bad ult on huge cd, one of worst heroes in game right now
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>>163467862
Luna and now spectre, I can even vaguely remember him getting it on lancer
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>>163468639
Ofc he wants china to win and the west to become degenerate. He is a chink after all.
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>>163468135
>mandatory pve for 10-20 minutes is "FUN".

You needed to jump ship ages ago, holding Dota back and all.
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>>163468719
>and can jungle very effectively
you clearly haven't played him in 7.00
he's awful jungler
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>>163468719
So what if the Doom ability was just harder to get use out of so Doom actually needs items and/or setup for it? Like it always has the permadoom effect but a very low base duration, forcing Doom to focus on mobility and survivability.
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>>163468684
Stop acting like ricing carry is some kind of genius -only role. Fucking eternalenvy played it for a good reason
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>>163468837
Watch this game die like sc2 and then wonder where people like me (that have a brain) went. You know why everyone spams "uninstalled" and "dead game" and "lol gameshitter esports master race"? It's because if they wanted to play fighting games they would play fucking smash bros if it had a free version.
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>>163469029
>tfw too intelligent to play dota 2
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>win 4 stomps
>lose 4 stomps

le right mmr amirite xd
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>>163468739
RTZ got it on lancer. I've tried it on Spectre, Medusa, and Viper. Wanted to get it on Razor but that game went to shit instantly.
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phoenix in current patch y/n
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>>163469000
Are you saying it takes more intelligence to pick pudge, 5 man with your team, look at the minimap, pick a random enemy hero at will, and rush at him, kill him with your 450 pure damage nuke on 4 second cooldown (repeat indefinitely to win)?
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>>163466803
Valve patches killing the game

I warned you all but you didnt listen
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>>163469029
As jewish as Valve can be, they are ten times more competent in keeping their games alive and good than Blizzard with their recent shitty games.
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>>163469152
Are you frustrated?
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>>163469235
very desu
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>>163469213
>>163466803
Those players that joined up after ti5 were /pol/tards bandwagoning on EGs win. They left after febuary 2016 because EG stopped winning.
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>>163469380
lol.
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Do the retards that keep bashing dota's constantly updating meta even comprehend their own arguments?
Have they never seen TI2 or ANY league of babbies esports match?
Both of which were boring farmfests that almost always had an anti-climactic ending. I bet they couldn't even name a single fucking TI2 match or any of it's results because it was always waternigger versus animage versus arsenal magus.
Yes, to a large degree I agree that farming should be buffed to give harder carries (like spectre/medusa/troll) the time of day, since those type of carries are shit in a competitive setting at this point, but the meta now is most certainly not the reason for the proclaimed "dota is dying" rant that these retards always seem to bait with.
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hey guys i just wanted to say that i finally got 4k mmr

this has been my goal for about a year, now aiming 5k mmr

thanks for listening
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>>163469029
You don't have a brain though, you're a retard actually defending the idea of fighting creeps for 30 minutes is fun to play or watch. Dota 2 changes, and when you're down bitching about how you can't rice all day anymore you'll come back like a good bitch.
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>>163469380
Have you ever hated a team so much you blame a game's success/failure on them?
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He's online stop shitposting.
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>>163469442
they refuse to post dotabuff so you know they are 1k retards who blame valve for the fact that they play at the level of a 60iq legally retarded person despite their 6000 hours in dota
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>>163467673
>tfw too intelligent to play riki
I do agree with you though. Why bother learning chen, lone druid, wisp or any "complex" hero? Why bother learning how to properly micro, learn and achieve proper item and push timings, etc, when I could just pick PA and press Q+W on enemy heroes until they die?

I really despise those heroes that take completely asymmetrical amounts of skill to play and counter. Any retard can play PA or Slark to 95% effectiveness, but it requires specific heroes,items and teamplay with specific timings to counter them. At least if Chen comes to take your tower at 5 minutes, you know he practiced his micro or jungle/rotation timings.
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>>163469186
As opposed to autistically farming creeps, never being there to help your team, looking at the minimap and wards, and escaping whenever you see someone looking for you?
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>>163469548
Explain why I should watch this idiot feed without using "anime" "it's funny" or "I like the music"
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>>163469561
>tfw 4000 hours but only 5k
Feels bad. Shouldn't I be 6k at this point?
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Remember when we used to tell new players that the first thing they should focus on is learning how to last hit well?
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>>163469654
It will make you a better mid
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>>163469734
post dotabuff or stop spouting your 1k trash opinions
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>this one guy asking everyone to post their dotabuff
>hasn't posted his yet
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>>163469186
More than right clicking creeps, sure.
Less monotonous too.
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>>163469803
lol thanks for the laugh
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>be 1K shitter
>think I'm gonna pick batrider and do useful shit like the pro
>accomplish nothing but die repeatedly
I haev barin problems
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reminder that DAC EG was the best Dota 2 team of all Time
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>>163469909
im not hte one crying and bithcing about every change an claiming the game is ruined

post yours fuckboy
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>>163469950
Storm was just unbalanced m8.
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>>163469909
>someone asks for dotabuff
>get to show off my 5k mmr and 54% winrate
>>
>spam techies
>get 4 commends

feels good man
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>>163468851
I haven't touched jungle in 7.00 at all, I'm too scared. Could you give me a more or less detailed spiel on how it works now?
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>>163469456

>mfw I reached 4.1k MMR 2 weeks ago
>boy it feels good that I'm less of a shitter now I will just play unranked and be happy
>the need to reach 5k MMR rises a week later
>After a 20 game losing streak I fell to 3.7k MMR and I'm trying to get back to 4k MMR

Congratulations tho. I really want to reach 5k MMR myself but I know it will be hard. I will prolly just spam bounty roamer support

Anyway what are the best heroes to get to 5k MMR d2g/?
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>Maut has a Kumiko avatar
Resident Kumiko poster, EXPLAIN YOURSELF
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>>163469950
>fear losing a free farm spectre game where he's 3k+ mmr above anyone else
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>>163469919
Are you actually meming or are we being invaded by League players?
Last hitting isn't a "PvE" exercise. You're laning against someone. There is a subtle balance of harass/deny/gank safety to be considered.
Much better than "I'll just hide in the trees forever and get a hook at some point"
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>>163469950
Thats not DK
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>>163465416
Cs go(ym) lamoooooooooo

Dor eu for the fb pick famalm
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>>163470078
DARE I SAY, OUR FUCKING GUY?

I think I remember Maut saying he watched anime desu.
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>>163469909
>>163470005
>>163470040
Here's mine for the memes

https://www.dotabuff.com/players/230352267/matches
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game is losing players

>normal game developer
"Let's have a company meeting and discuss what we can do to satisfy the playerbase and help the game grow"

>Valve
"LMAO whO CARES xD sold hats"
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>15:00
>Lion disconnected.
>Lion has abandoned.
>This game is not safe to leave, if you do, you'll be assessed with an abandon.

Why did I think reinstalling was a good idea? Why would I do something like this?
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>>163470184
You have to tell us your opinion about the patch in the same post otherwise we can't use that to count points.
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>>163470184
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>>163470094
>last hitting anywhere outside of the laning phase
>you're laning against someone
>when you're ganking you're safe from ganks!
fuck off EE
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>>163470071
thanks, i got close a couple months ago at 3950 but went on a tilt streak and dropped to 3200

i just try play carry or mid every game, i feel like i am better than those on my team so i should just carry myself

ironically the last 2 games i played to hit 4k i was support
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>>163470236
Nice bait
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>>163470094
Yeah and that's not fun to do/watch for 10+ minutes.
Git gud
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>>163470029
yeah how come SUPERSTAR TEAM SECRET didnt pick Storm every game then, how come fucking NO ONE aside from EG and Big God were picking storm, oh yeha right because everyone was garbage except for SUmail

>Muh storm OP meme
literally the only fallback of secretcucks despite no one except Sumail and CTY were performing during 2015 on storm
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>>163470324
>last hitting anywhere outside of the laning phase
but that's the point
brawling meta is killing the laning phase
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>>163469909
hi
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>>163464789
>>163465619
>>163466953
>>163467224

All the above is me, I think the patch is an overall good thing. But it fundamentally changes the game in a way that no other patch has, and all the old fags are angry about it.
>>163470243
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>>163470387
Fanboyism is bad.
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tfw u meme
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>>163469928
he's not the best mid but he will always be better than you
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>>163470418
Your conception of "working together" is incredibly myopic and it pisses me off.
>>
is this tober?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T5wtKsD_cl4
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>>163468561
Doom fits pretty well into this FUCKING FIGHT EVERYONE meta because of his heals + damage aura thingy, he's just overall pretty damn good at that shit man.
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>>163470554
Jesus christ you sound like a 10 year old pewdiepie fan
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>>163470721
fck u pewdeiepie will always be richer and more successful than you! hater
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>tfw Necrophos is literally a fountain now
what was Icetoad thinking?
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>>163471045
>two lizards

Why are you posting this here?
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>>163470236
>company does something that causes their customers to leave

>normal company
>ok lets take that back apologiset and gift some shit that costs us cents

>Valve
>double down on that which pissed everything off
>also call the customers names for not liking the awful changes
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>>163471045
>no thick christmas gf
>>
I want to GO FAST. Playing Slardar with Tranquils+Force+Blink is insanely fun. What other heroes let me feel the need for speed:underground 2? (I already play shittons of spirit breaker, and hate playing bloodseeker)
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>>163471526
dark seer
storm
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>>163471526
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So.. joinDOTA got their own Anneedroid...
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Why have 20 minute GGs and >50 kills by 30 minutes become more common than ever since 7.00?
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>>163471635
I don't understand her proportions
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>>163471526
Night Stalker, kind of.
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>>163471635
ROFL how fucking far has dota fallen from the old days
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>>163471724
i'm not even 1k and this is how ranked has always been

welcome to retardville
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>>163471848
TA is a boy idiot
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>>163471848
which heroes cock is that
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>>163471964
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>>163471964
chen
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>>163464831
if you change schools you can "transfer" your class history
really they just change the current school info in your file
if it's failed it's still failed in next school or anywhere you go. it's on your record but 0 credits
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>irl friends refuse to play doter with me because family or gf
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>>163466746
Not him but i think he means batrider.
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>Winter break
>900k peak players

D Y I N G
Y
I
N
G
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Remember when we used to tell new players that they needed to learn to last hit?
Looks like we played ourselves and were lying because you can win games by picking PA/slark/pudge and press Q+W+R to win games without hitting a single creep and valve is forcing this play style. We are literally badLeague now.
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>>163472638
hey you keep spamming this same post but still havent posted your dotabuff
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>>163472638
only pudge works like that since pa/slark with no farm is useless and can be easily bursted down
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>d-dox yourself
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What would the game be like if all the heroes were buffed to their strongest iterations? Within boundaries of course. Reworks still apply, but number tweaks could be reverted. Who would reign supreme? Or would the game actually be more diverse?
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>>163472681
My dota buff is full of games where I tried to farm but lost games because the guy who spent all his time fighting other heroes has more gpm and farm DESPITE NOT FARMING.
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TRUE SIGHT EPISODE 3 IN 3 (THREE) MINUTES!!!

just a reminder dotards
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>>163472970
reminder we're watching it with Zai
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Remember when when a players networth was called "farm" and hitting creeps was called "farming". Yeah those terms used to make sense because that's how you got gold.

Not anymore though. Now you get more gold from not hitting creeps. Funny isn't it?
Maybe this is why 18% of the players from February 2016 have left...
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>>163473050
Why is Purge so dreamy?
>>
REMINDER FOR THOSE WHO DONT KNOW ZAI IS CURRENTLY STREAMING EPISODE 3
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>>163472385
>CS:GO and League are dying in the west while Dota is growing.

::thinking::
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>>163473243
>dota
>growing
>in the west
thats a good one
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>>163472681
You can see I lose most of the games where I try to farm after the laning phase.

>>163472681
https://www.dotabuff.com/players/91456699

Here you go. I'm 5k mmr and you'll see I've lost the majority of my carry games.
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>true sight only available to battle pass owners
lol
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>>163473050
>funny isn't it?
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>>163470831
Yes i am pro dota 2 player i know all good play I am Best no one Else Better.
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>>163473349
twitch tv/zai

unless you are some kind of faggot show doesnt like /ourboys/
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>>163473349
>he is too poor to afford 10 dollars
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>>163473527
That's right, pay your masters then fight on their behalf goyim!
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>>163473243
>dota
>growing
>lower peak players than last winter break

rmyt
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>Are you a Dota or LoL team?
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>artour is a big baby
what a surprise
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>>163473723
>he literally can't afford TEN (10) dollars
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>>163473304
>>163473745
>we used to brigade lol threads

>Now lol players are brigading our threads

Looks like we're big time now boys.
>>
arteezy is my husband
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EG are fucking hilarious lmao.
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>>163470094
>Are you actually meming or are we being invaded by League players?
It's not an invasion. It's what the player-base has become.
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>balanced simian autocrat
>>
THIS IS FUCKING GAY.
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this is so awkward now that eg lost
just seems like valve were building them up so hard to win boston with this fucking documentary shit
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I love this team desu
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No wonder all you repressed alt-right faggots love EG so much, they're gay as fuck
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SUMAIL LITERALLY CONFIRMED
FOR TO SMART FOR DOTA
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tfw to intelligent to do anyhting productive
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>to intelligent for school
based sumail
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Sumail is literally to smart for anything but Dota
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ASSASSIN SPOTTED
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>actually play well for once
>lose
Literally every time
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THIS MOTHERFUCKER SHOWS UP TO YOUR LANE AND SLAPS YOU ON THE ASS

WHAT DO YOU DO
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What does the Rat insult mean?
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is it worth playing low priority rather than normal/ranked at 1k mmr?
I am on a losing streak and always raging because my teammates have been shit the lately. I imagine people suck less when they can't play their favourite meme hero and have to win in order to get out of lp.
Any thoughts?
>>
The change to techies mines is disgusting and makes playing against it annoying as shit but I like it.
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>>163474408
I'm impressed you're able to breath and type at the same time
>>
HOLY FUCK ZAI IS GOING IN
>>
>zai calling sufail out for being a shitter

fucking finally, tired of people pretending like sumail is good when he is clearly dog shit
>>
lmao this team needs a fulltime sitcom
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>>163473527
>giving 10$ to valve after this dogshit patch
>>
WHAT THE FUCK
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>>163474357
putang ina ma bobo
>>
You can tell they're really in it together because they can talk to each other like that just fine. Meanwhile from the fnatic stuff when they could barely say anything bad without falling apart
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Why is /vg/ discussing esports when esports isn't online
fuck off efags, its back to theorycraft hour
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>>163474430
shhh monkey king is the real issue guys
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This fucking team holy shit lmao.
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oooooooooooooooh holy shit zai
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>Zai
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>>163474501
but what about lp? is it worth over ranked/normal for 1k retards?
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>ALSO THEY'RE FUCKING GARBAGE.
HOLY FUCKING SHIT LMAO
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>be 1K trash
>1/5 storm on the losing enemy team says he has another account at 4K
is this real?
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haHAA im shever and I talk about pro dota haHAA im 3k mmr btw haHAA
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>>163474691
>Normals
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>>163474629
>the compendium came after the patch

american spotted
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Riki and Weaver are so fucking insanely god fucking damn obnoxious that it's not even god damn fucking funny. Holy fuck makes me wanna beat the ever loving shit out of something.
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>>163474839
she's still unironically better than the namefags on /d2g/

remember when liegelouch lost to her on lycan in a random pub?
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>>163474867
>touching ranked after a patch drops

its like you want to lose mmr
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Anyone else kind of salty by how much effort they put into monkey kings voice lines? He has a voice line for killing like every fucking character YET NO ONE HAS ANY LINES FOR KILLING HIM!? FUCK THIS GAME MAN.

Same with how arcanas and shit are chosen. A support hero is NEVER EVER going to get a arcana. Look at crystal maidens arcana. Very few bought it. Lina arcana and shadow fiend arcana out sold maidens by a fuck ton.

People were getting upset when it looked like IO would get one and then jugg gets one(on top of his million and one skins) and no one gets pissy at all.

We need more voice lines and skins for characters who have none. FUCK YOU VALVE!

Is there really no hero in the game that shit talks monkey king?
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>SB has abandoned the game
>game is safe to leave
>leave game
>LP'd
FUCK U VALVE FIX UR SHITTY LOL RIPOFF
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A G A I N
G
A
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based kyle fucking up EG
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>>163475004
maybe its because most of the voice lines for the heroes were recorded before they even thought about making monkey king???
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Haha EG is fucking salty. They're unlikable holyshit. Even fear is an asshole. They deserved those loses against COL. Looks we were supposed to enjoy those losses as much as we did lmao.
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let's try another question then.

how do I stop raging if my team is shit and we are losing?
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>>163475004
Are you fucking braindead? They don't have voicelines for killing MK because valve needs to recontact their VA's so they can record their lines accordingly. MK's VA is already there and ready to do all the work at once so it makes sense for them to give him voice lines for literally everything.
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>>163475004
>People were getting upset when it looked like IO would get one and then jugg gets one(on top of his million and one skins) and no one gets pissy at all.
Valve rigged the vote.
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>>163475098
this shit happened to me today except i got banned from matchmaking for 24hours
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>>163475259
mute your chat
focus on your gameplay
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>>163475194

I understand that but they should have at least made lines for certain characters WHEN THEY KILL HIM.

Like the spirits played a large role in monkey kings lore apparently. Why do they have no lines when they kill him? Hell, they could have cut half of monkey kings lines. Like monkey king shit talks tinker for what reason? They aren't even rivals.
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>>163475143
>treating CoL like a joke
Good thing he fucked them up.
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>>163474947
>giving valve money after no content for like 8 months
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Lmao EG is a joke.
We could get a full drama series from them
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>>163475317
Are you some retard? They probably will make lines for him once they get the VAs back in to do more work. Valve is probably waiting for more lines that can be done before contracting them again because it would be a waste of time and money to hire them only to say 4 lines and leave.
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REDDIT

BLOWN

THE

FUCK

OUT
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EG

ARE

LITERALLY (LITERALLY)

OUT GUYS
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>R E D D I T
R E D D I T
>R E D D I T
R E D D I T
>R E D D I T
R E D D I T
>R E D D I T
R E D D I T
>R E D D I T
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THE FUCKIGN CITY OF LEDDIT
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>>163475765

>thinking valve will call back the voice actors

They still haven't remodeled jakiro or AA bud. You think they will call back voice actors?
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>>163475787
>>163475848
reddit have had a hateboner for EG for ages, this is not news
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[anguished wailing]
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>>163474317
Thanks for the dispel satyr bro
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Guys I haven't played Dota in a year due to deployment, what's changed? Does our guy barny still stream?
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[ANGUISHED WAILING]
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>>163475397
>the battle pass isnt content

kill yourself american
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Watching the responses to the blademail was amazing
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Is that his waifu?
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>>163475259
Honest to god, take the last 5 games you played, think long and hard about the most important thing that was said in chat, and then determine whether you need to use chat or not.

Once you've found out that you've never said anything useful in chat in 6 games, or that you usually say things literally everyone in the entire game are aware of in a demeaning manner, you take the next step.

MUTE YOURSELF. REMOVE THE GOD DAMN ENTER KEY FROM YOUR FUCKING KEYBIND. THE INSTANT SOMEONE ON YOUR TEAM SAYS SOMETHING, YOU FUCKING MUTE THEM. YOU CAN STILL SEE PINGS, CHATWHEEL MESSAGES, IT DOES NOT MATTER. CHAT IS WORTHLESS. CHAT IS JUST A PLACE FOR ANGRY PEOPLE TO YELL AT EACH OTHER. ESPECIALLY ALL CHAT. WHY THE FUCK DOES ALL CHAT EXIST? WHY WOULD TRASHTALK EVEN EXIST IN A GAME LIKE DOTA? CHAT IS GARBAGE, FUCK CHAT.
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Sumail is GOAT
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>>163476143
yes
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>>163476143
Yep, stock NAdota asian gf
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>>163476064
>battle pass is content
5 cents have been deposited
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>>163476175
he's a brat that throws games
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Guys I've been out of the loop for some time now, which teams are our teams?
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>>163476363
are you ever satisfied anon?
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AWWW SUMAIL
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They're all so fucking cute holy shit
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>Arteezy is still striving for first place
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CUTE
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>manila major bantz
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Friendly reminder that if EG didn't eliminate Wings and VP, OG wouldn't have won the major
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>That cute ending.
AWWWWWWWWWWW.
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Is he /fa/?
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>dota isn't gay
Well I hope you all learned your lesson from that video
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That was a good ep.

What team do you guys want a True Sight of next?
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>I'm actually better than my mmr
no you are not.stop making new smurfs every month
(pic related this is you)
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sumail confirmed reddit: the player
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>>163476905
GIVE ME A FUCKING OG ONE HOLY FUCK.
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>>163476784
what kind bracket has one team eliminate two favorites meanwhile the other team faces fucking seamonkies twice in a row
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Cute!

CUTE!
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>>163476878
Did you see his black turtleneck look? Probably not because you wouldn't have asked that question otherwise
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>>163476892
>brotherly love HAS too be gay

MAYBE STOP READING SHITTY GAY ANIME AND WAKE THE FUCK UP
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>at least I will always be striving for first place
>(let's stay together forever) forever is too deep dude
What did rtz mean by this?
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Is Sumail the twink fuccboi of EG like Sajedene is for DC?
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>>163476919
You would think after their first 2 games on a boosted act they would realize how fucking retarded they are
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>Hey Artour, you play in Manilla?
Naw, not really man.

>Hey Uni, you remember Manilla?
No I don't.

My fucking sides dude
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post ending in 6-9 decides which hero I play for the next 5 games
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Best part of Truesight.

>Complexity are fucking garbage.
>Proceed to get 2-1'd by them.
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There better be a true sight for chad finem some day. This shit is so insightful and CUTE!
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I love watching EG when they lose
They should film EG exclusively when they lose in the future too.
>sumail does well
>win
>sumail does bad
>lose
Lmao
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>>163477118
EG also came last that event don't forget
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>>163476784
>VP
>good
kek
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>>163476919
im not better than my mmr. im massively inconsistent, ive almost given up finding good heroes to pick in relation to enemies and allies, small hero pool, and the enemies always seem to be better than me.

god damn.
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>>163477179
Ya boy.
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>>163477134
Agree with this.
It also seems like these pro players aren't autistic like we are. They're literally all normies that function really well socially.
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>>163469654
i like his ember
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So how exactly does one beat infest Slardar this patch?
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Unironically extremely comfy 3 hours. Just the goons goofing off, made better with their commentary its just too bad that Fnatic was such a shitshow, but I guess they need a foil
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>>163477392
teleport scroll away
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>>163477369
Except they need a ginger guy to wipe their ass 24/7
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>>163477392
Shut up gameshitter we are discussing esports.

>>163477432
You think they'll show fnatic again?
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>>163477553
not really he books the flights and handles the unnecessary shit so they can focus on dotes.
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>>163477369
Winning hundreds of thousands dollars and being in the public spotlight, being famous almost, would turn any "autistic" cunt into something normie-esque.

They play Dota for like 15 hours a day everyday. No matter how normie they seem, they're still autistic as fuck.
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>>163477613
>entire team of 6 people is foiled by a locked door
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>tfw I enjoy

dota 2 reality tv >esports >gameshitting >actually playing the game

Am I right?
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>>163477818
that is the correct order lad
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>>163477818
most people dont enjoy playing the game this patch. valve thoroughly fucked the game up with 7.00
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>>163477818
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>>163477895
That's why I put it it last dude. It's what I enjoy the least concerning doter.
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>>163473243
>dota, csgo, league are dying while Overwatch and Battlerite are growing, while SC2 remains a static stagnant corpse floating in the Ganges

MC became a LoL coach
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>>163477948
By doter 2 reality tv, I mean true sight and pro player related content. I don't mean fucking mafia being played by "talent" like sheever, mealk and other caster faggots.
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>>163477818
I enjoyed it because Im extremely jealous of their lifestyles, since I'm a NEET with no fucking life, while they're playing a high-skilled game while also having fun afterwards. Literally hanging with the boys
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Why is HotD all the new rage?
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When is the next episode of true sight?
Any predictions of when and who?
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>>163478276
it's basically new drums
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>>163478029
Overwatch is literally BadTF2 which renders the entire argument moot
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>>163478276

It's a great support/pushing item. Basically turns your hero into GoodChen.
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>>163478189
Fuck man I just want to get a Dota LAN going with people who aren't shit to be around
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>>163478276
Support item like the old drums. Difference is that it actually can do anything since neutral creeps can do anything.
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>>163478307
It'll be for a favourite to win TI7, and follow them from Kiev onwards. They'll also include an underdog team just because. We'll know soon enough which teams because they'll be followed around by cameras everywhere
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>>163478276
You can buy it on any hero to turn them into a push god. Some heroes have "bad at pushing" as their only weakness. Also, attributes. Bitches love items that are basically piles of branches.
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>>163478368
the game is still growing though, and that was my argument
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>>163478276
its good drums now which makes it a top tier item in this shitty fight all the time meme pushy hero brawler 5 man meta
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>>163478368

Overwatch is FunTF2.
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>>163478451
Are you saying the next episode is after Kiev? Damn.
By underdogs you probably mean chad finem. They're the new Liquid after shanghai basically. The other team could be OG since ana is improving.
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>>163478189
Do you have high mmr at least?
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>>163478515
Yeah its growing in its own genre of team-based fps. Doesn't mean that Dota fans will convert into Overwatch fans. There will always be MOBA fans, and there will always be CS;GO fans. The problem with OW is that its trying to appeal to both
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>Fear is LITERALLY dating a female version of DeMoN

She even sounds like him, holy shit.
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The mind set behind the patch is fine. Consolidating gold from the jungle into the bounty runes creates objectives that are more worth contesting. So why are the results bad?
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>>163478732
too forced and easy to come by
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>>163478718
Asian gf is like an e-sports meme at this point.

Almost every pro has one.
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>>163478480
>Bitches love items that are basically faggots
FTFY
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>>163478635
Well, they need a storyline. They might start filming in January with teams (probably OG and Ad Finem) as they move into Kiev, but its unlikely since they just finished work on the first series
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>>163478718
But where is that Jew PPD? Why isn't he shown at all? He's CEO of EG. How did they make a 25 year old like him the CEO of a successful gaming brand? Does it not require much to run EG or something?
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>>163478732
because now only one player per team can afk jungle past early game effectively, and shitters are mad because they are too stupid to get last hits in lane
supports can also roam effectively instead of just babysitting to keep xp up

in other words, hard carries are leaguebabby faggots and now everyone knows.
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>>163478681
I never felt like Overwatch was appealing to moba fans.

OW feels like what Riot did to Dota, take a hardcore game and dumb it down and make it family friendly with generic characters to appeal to the casuals.
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>>163478438
Drums used to be a support item? Also, I'm having a hard time thinking of a support that would actually buy hotd. There isn't any more room in dota for more support items because there are already so many.
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>>163478909
PPD travels to like watch the other EG players in other games, I think he was recently at a fighting game tournament.
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>>163478972
Sadly they did the opposite, take a for-fun game like TF2 and make it 2serious4u.
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>>163478718
I would date Jimbo (male or female)
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>>163478718
>meanwhile PPD is dating a female clone of himself
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>>163478937
What is suppose to be done about heroes like Clinkz, who can basically never get solo pickoffs now? Is there a chance that splitpushing will become a big thing so that heroes like that can have something they counter?
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>>163478375
>>163478438
All I see are cores buying it cause it gives so many bonuses on top of a strong-ass dominated creep
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>>163478985
>Also, I'm having a hard time thinking of a support that would actually buy hotd.
Anyone who wants a free purge
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>>163478732
No the mind set cannot fix what they already broke. What they broke was the farming play style. Kills still give too much gold. They've nerfed the jungle hard so the camps take forever to respawn, and made it really easy to gank because you don't need to return to fountain. Offensive run at your face dota is what is dominant right now. Nobody hits creeps after the laning phase because the jungle is always empty and if you farm the lane, you get insta ganked by roaming heroes like pudge that will solo kill you despite being a third your net worth. They also nerfed ratting because the enemy will tp behind your back if your ratting a tier 2 tower and you'll get raped instantly.
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>>163478276
>tfw this guy tells you why you brought HotD as a jugg if you are not stacking
>stacking
instant muted just 3,7 stuff here
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>>163478718
Fear has yellow fever and has esports money.
This is nothing new.
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>>163478985
Literally any jungler who uses creeps, Chen and Ench especially. That 8hp regen and 25 attack speed aura is no joke
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>>163478825
>>163478718

why is this the case? its not even a NA or EU thing
fly, s4, fear, w33, ld, universe and a tonne more all date asian and usually jungle asians
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>>163469235
>tfw the whole point of this game is to piss people off with le trole pub ez heroes and russian l33t speek
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>>163479173
Exactly. Cores have to buy those support items because if you invest in another item instead like midas that increase your levels and farm, you lose to the snowball gank style dota employed by the enemy team that basically means they'll group up as 5 before the laning stage even ends and they'll rape your ass. You have to get that HOTD so you can survive their constant ganks
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>>163479126
no his ex Slotherina was the female version,this bicth i just ugly also very annoying voice
>>
disband soon famalams
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>>163479151
>who can basically never get solo pickoffs now?
says who? have you tried roaming the new jungles? running around and killing loners is fucking dank since it's easy to get in and out of lanes without towers assfucking you
mind you that solo lanes are now much, much more common because of meme fountains

>Is there a chance that splitpushing will become a big thing so that heroes like that can have something they counter?
both roaming and defending are easier, so i do think memepush has a good chance to come back out of necessity.
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>>163479104
But dota is a fighting game or at least cosplaying as one with all these memefights and deathballs.
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>>163479417
People who play video games extensively/professionally are usually introverted.

SEA countries likes vidya gaming, and by extension what few females from SEA that watch dota will take notice of the professional players and latch on to them.

When pussy is thrown your way, you tend to lap that shit up. Especially when you're reclusive by nature.
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>>163479417
Because white girls are fucking chad you faggot.
>why are nerds taking what they get
White girls want big dick and hate vidyo game players.
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>>163479417
Asian girls are more acceptable of the gaming neet lifestyle more so than any other race.
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>>163476157
I actually say very usefull things and always try to help, but people mostly refuse to listen and when they do and see that I am right it's always too late. Of course I beginn to flame then.
In my last game for example I told the our supports to buy wards and dust because we desperately needed them. Instead it was me (mid)and our carry who bought them and spending each about 2k gold to ward and counter ward. Yeah and then your lich support suddenly decides that he is going to do the warding. After 40 min when the enemy is attacking our t4 tower or even our fucking ancient this cunt buys some sentrys. The first wards he bought in the entire game. Tell me how the fuck you csn't rage about shit like this?
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>>163479928
Do you see pro players bitching about sentries during their LANs? No?
BECAUSE THEY PLAY WITH PEOPLE THEY CAN TRUST.
you're loner faggot that rages at people valves matchmaking randomly throws at you. Fuck you for whining about a team game like this when you have no friends.
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Does icefrog even have an idea of what he wants this hero to do?
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>>163479417
>s4 w33 universe
>dating Asian girls
pics?
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>>163480096
He doesn't want this hero to farm. He wants it to memefight all day every day. FIGHTING ENEMY HEROES 5 MINUTES INTO THE GAME. Because fuck farming.
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>>163478515
i dont think so
even people who are into competitive play admit that there is too much emphasis on teamplay and not enough on induvidual skill. there is literally nowhere to improve because every part of the game that can make an fps challanging is shallow
on top of that, their enforced meta is dogshit, every team has at least 2 tanks that absorb all the fucking damage meanwhile 2 healers constantly healing shit ton of hp and packs on the map being everywhere
its a super boring chokepoint ult-spam fest
they wanted to make everyone happy but its the most frustrating game ive played because you feel like the entire thing is a coinflip and there is not much you can do
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>>163480096
why rape his damage
>hurr free ghost sceptor

I guess its ok but like wtf
>>
How do I gank? I just don't understand what I am supposed to do as a support early game. Like once team fights start happening, I do well but before that.. I just don't understand.

Like when do I gank? and how? I usually play shadow shaman but whenever I go to mid to try and gank, the mid plays safe. Even when I smoke and reveal myself when its go time, they sometimes still slip away. How do I gank lanes? What is a ganking item build for shadow shaman?
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>>163480298
That sounds like dota. Valve is also forcing teamfight and team play over individual skill. Shit. Is valve doing this to all their games? Evil fucking bastards. Icefrog isn't balancing the game anymore...
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I will never understand why people build monkey king with dps items. He has a fuckload of FREE built in damage, just build tank items and attack speed and you will be OP for longer than 20 mintues
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>>163480451
He's shit pick pudge who can solo kill a hero 3 times his net worth at every stage of the game.
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>>163480521
probably because his q and ult scale off his damage??
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>>163480637
monkey kang does not have quas or invoke
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>>163480451
Buy smoke and go stun a retard
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>>163480096
>>163480245
>>163480401
He didn't want the hero to have two passives and two actives. It's not hard to understand. He did the same shit with Bloodseeker and Faceless Void.
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>>163480521
The only hero with enough FREE damage that they don't need to build damage is Ursa.
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>>163480451
Ping a lot and scream at the mic in russian when going for a gank.
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You guys are a bunch of oldfags, why don't you shit on people that say QWER?
Or are you too smart for that?
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>>163480820
im just a casual but i dont know almost zero spell names
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>>163480820
legacy is strictly worse. Nobody liked reaching across their fucking keyboard just to omnislash
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>>163480719
When does he do it to meepo and wk? They have 2 passives.
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>>163480451
5.5k player
evaluate what is best for each particular game
1) if you need to prepare for a push strat, maybe its only useful to gank at very particular times, and your ultimate is what you should focus on. So just zone the offlaner as much as you can and pull and get levels.
2) If you need to gank mid or off, it's good to check how the enemy is playing for a good 30 seconds, or how the lane equilibrium will turn out by the time you get there. communicate with your mid player, ask him to pay attention, or make lane back, etc
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>>163480904
Yeah even my wc3 playing friend used to use scripts to use QWER. But legacy users usually defend their keys a lot.
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>>163480820
There are no oldfags here, they stopped playing the game.
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>ganking memefight 20 min meta
>pick NS to gank my way to a win
>I fall off after 20 mins
>lose
>???
Why?
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>>163480451
Focus on map control and try to set up kills with disables. Initiate for them. If your cores don't want to cooperate, leave them. If they wanted your help, they would have taken it, so if they reject it, ignore any "gg noob support" comments. These people are literally subhuman.

Remember, you have a role of your own to fill.
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TRUE SIGHT EP 3 VOD with commentary in case anyone missed it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMwp_fI55Hs
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>>163481189
You're right I suppose :(
There's nothing sadder than your game die.
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>My region is so goddamn terrible and dead that i'm 4.3k and have been looking for a ranked match for 20 minutes already
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>>163480451
>i want to gank with shaman

you're looking at the game from the wrong direction

you look at a hero's strengths and weaknesses then asses what they can do

shaman has long disables, poor mobility and sustain without items and a great pushing / static teamfight ult. SO: he can gank, but needs a blink to initiate most of the time. He's best with heroes that want good set up like mirana, exort invo, high dps low disable+mobility carries etc.

He's more suited to games with a slow early 10 so he can jew his way to the items he needs then go jihad some towers with his team. He's a better pusher than ganker mostly, in a lineup with heroes like drow with similar strong timings.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFzAxqjZOGg

EXPLAIN THIS SORCERY

DOTARDS
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>>163481424
I shouldn't be surprised people here now watch shite like this

/d2g/ in 2016 is so fucking underage it hurts
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>>163481213

I understand thanks.
To anyone else,

Are some supports just not worth playing right now? I am particularly fond of shadow shaman, I like the disables and they feel impactful when used with perfect timing. However, some people tell me he is garbage because he is incredibly vulnerable squishy. He also makes a target of himself when shackling people.

What makes a support hero "garbage" or "good"?
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>after the biggest update to dota 2 ever there was less than 1% increase in players over the past month (last december saw an increase of over 6%)
Downgrading the game was strictly not worth it. Just fucking roll back the patch already holy shit.
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>>163481526
It showed up in the recommended section and I said fuck it, why not
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>>163481424
>mid or meepo
hello plebbit
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I want to fuck Lina
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>>163481424
>lose with a 30k net worth lead
Pick earthshaker and meepo can literally never ever win. That's fucking great. This is a week ass hero and I main him.
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>>163481549
>What makes a support hero "garbage" or "good"?
Whether it has the right tools to help your team against what the enemy has picked pretty much. In the average pub game that usually just means stuns and/or silences
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>when your safelane asks you to gank
>you're mid

that's not how it works you shitter
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>>163481750
Me too.
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>>163480953
Meepo is an oddball cause just due to how the hero mechanically works.

When Wraith King was Skeleton King, there was one patch where Mortal Strike was an active spell but still gave all of the passive bonuses if the active was not used. It was scrapped for some reason in a subsequent patch.
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>>163481850
>Old regular Dota
>Cave in to your retarded teammate's request
>Now enemy mid pretty much won for free
>New Dota on 7.01
>Go gank the other lane
>Suddenly you have 600 gpm and xpm, you're also snowballing
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>>163481549
He's just a hero with some glaring weaknesses that are hard to plug unless your team gives you some space and works around you properly. He's just not really worth it over a lot of other heroes unless you really really want loads of disable and loads of push in one bag.

In a pub setting, flexibility is a lot more important because it's not CM. Something like venge that's got disable, helps pushes, can save allies and makes good use of no farm, some farm and lots of farm at least moderately has answers to so many more situations that shadow shaman.
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>>163481809
Earth spirit is useless though even though he has both a stun and a silence.
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>>163481630
reddit confirmed.

all my recommended vids are goku, chad eating nails and football stupid nerd
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>>163481549
>However, some people tell me he is garbage because he is incredibly vulnerable squishy. He also makes a target of himself when shackling people.

People are stupid and think every game is CoD where balance is a fairy tale. Shaman is one of the best disablers in the game which makes him good for aggressive lineups, but is heavily utility and needs his team to take advantage of it. If your teammates are pussies that don't want to be aggressive even when it's a good idea, that's on them, not the hero.

If no one in your games wants to make use of supporting, then it might be a bad idea to pick a dedicated support hero. Instead consider picking a good ganker hero like Weaver, Clinkz, Slark, etc, and get memekills while your retards idle farm. Focus on map control with support items instead of late game scaling after you get core items.
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>>163482268
are you retarded
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>>163475258
>>163475787
>>163475848
I havnt paid attentiont to espurts in a week or so. what happened
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>>163482160
>Still clueless why a skill that instantly steals 20% of a target's max HP on 550 range was removed

Come on now
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https://www.dotabuff.com/players/230352267

Omni nerf when.
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>>163482537
True sight episode 3. EG reactions after they lost to CoL
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>>163482213
that's because you're bad

ES is a good pub support if you really perfect him because of all his disable options and absurd mobility

his problem is that he's poor from behind and you need to be able to play him aggressively with really slick mechanics to get the value
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>>163482610
what did they say? is there some kind of link?
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>>163482724
LOOK IN THE THREAD FAGGOT. Press control F and paste "in case you missed it"
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Why do only agility heroes have talents that increase only agility? Why doesn't wraith king have a talent for extra agility?
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>>163482268
smdh rmyt
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>>163482967
Because he has a talent for extra strength (Because he's a tank) and int(to cast spells)
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>>163482967
Because agility is mediocre to other heroes.
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>>163482574
Instead of balancing it he just removed it, which is unusual. Icefraud prefers to nerf some other aspect of the hero as opposed to admitting he was flat-out wrong.

Besides, SK didn't really have a drop-off in winrate when he reverted him back to his normal, 1 active spell self.
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Which carries are the biggest time bombs who can win a game if left alone for 45+ minutes?
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Someone tell me if earth spirit is worth learning or if he's total shit now.
He used to be that hero that could do anything when it came to crowd control. when I look at his nerfs, it seems like they made him as strong as he used to be at level 16 but weaker at level 3.
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>be 4k
>really like timber
>spam it for over 30 days of pure game time
>get top 100 mmr in the us
>beat shitty sneyking team

my boi solitary judge
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>>163483376
The usual.
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>>163483459
so AM, dusa, spec, PL. Am I missing anyone?
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>>163483376
sven
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>>163483585
Alchemist. Natures profit. Troll morph luna gyro(rapier) dk(damage items)
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6 slot carries with 45 minutes of farm are scary who knew
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>>163480904
omnislash legacy hotkey is E
>>163481189
10 year old dotard here and I'm still playing the game
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>>163483585
void
wk
zet
sniper
shadow demon illusions

all of these heroes scale better than am and pl

pl isn't a hard carry anymore anyway, he's just a midgame memer
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which team would be the strongest if coach are allowed in the booths?
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>>163483585
AM falls off.
Not sure why people still think he's a hard carry - he's like right between a regular carry and a hard carry in terms of carry potential.

If anything, he's the "softest" hard carry in the game.
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>>163480096
>>163480245
>>163480401
>>163480719
He wants the hero to be more dynamic, happened with FV and Bloodseeer, they were boring.

necro is now more about his entire skill set and not just ult, because even if you say "hurr his damage got raped", necro was only used because of his ult, because le meme dagon with aghs insta kill then boom explode because glass canon
He wants necro to be more about staying alive while slowly killing you.
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>>163479417
more asian girls play games than white
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>go solo rosh as jugg
>my mid walks in, takes the last hit and the aegis
>i ask why
>"you're not even a fucking factor in this game"
>i have more kills than him
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How do you guys deal with bullying in /d2g/ stacks?

Everybody just targets me with insults from the get-go, what the fuck man.
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>>163483889
>10 year old dotard here and I'm still playing the game
What's wrong with you.
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>>163484234
His new skill is ass though.
>wow 4.5 seconds of more regen and a SLOW

Like seriously it's ass, if it had like 90% uptime it'd be a lot better because of how spammy his Death Pulse is if he gets core farm. As a support he's useless.
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>>163484402
It's not supposed to make him any more viable as a support.

Support necro is awful - that ship has long since sailed.
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>>163484135
people don't understand that being strong because of being able to create a big gold advantage and making better use of 6 slots are different

hence why tb, am, naga and alch don't scale individually as well as actually hard carries
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>>163483379
>Someone tell me if earth spirit is worth learning or if he's total shit now.
He's fine.
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>>163484240
Kills are not the highest facotr in this game.

I went 0 - 7 as Lycan last night, but I had 11k tower damage and ratted 2 lanes of rax before the enemy could get back in time.
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>>163484285
Show them pics of your bucci
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>>163484505
I meant involved in more kills
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Isn't Radiant safelane just straight up better than Dire safelane? As a support, I can farm my ass off on Radiant side, especially if I buy a Quelling Blade and pull the medium camp by the tier 2 tower.

Although KotL is borderline broken on Dire side because the camps are all lined up for Illuminate blasts. Other than him, every support would rather be on Radiant side in 7.00.
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>>163484402
>wow 4.5 seconds of more regen and a SLOW
It's really not. Its also a ghost scepter, so effective against rightclickers, also more healing from greave,s more healing from death pulse, and more healing from killing. Also, did you forget while all this healing is happening, heartstopped is doing work? which does a lot of damage, by the way.

>if it had like 90% uptime it'd be a lot better
Of course, it would be broken because lmao permanent ethereal carry cant kill me
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>>163483379
he's fine in pretty much any game where you need an aggressive support

to actually make him worthwhile compared to other heroes that do the same thing you have to play him very well though
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>>163484135
He's more of a hard carry now. Jungle nerfed so he farms slower, but talents increase his max potential.
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What team is singsing on
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I missed True Sight, were there any cute Artour moments?
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>2 DAYS BEFORE XMAS

>2 DAYS BEFORE XMAS

>2 DAYS BEFORE XMAS

>2 DAYS BEFORE XMAS


DOTURDS

NYEK HEK HEK HEK
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>>163483889
>omnislash legacy hotkey is E
it was N. Did you even play dota 1?
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>>163484787
you can't really look at talents individually, you have to gauge it against other carries' talents

am's are decent but he was a hero that liked +stats more than most and other heroes still have fundamentally better farmed lategame skills

he functions more like a "hard carry" but that's partly because he's just worse in 7.00
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>>163485025
Where are the Dota 2 Christmas lewds?
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>>163484234
>He wants necro to be more about staying alive while slowly killing you.
The problem with that is heroes like that need low cooldown spells that apply strong debuffs, with their only high cooldown spells if any being an initiation tool. They're going to have to change a lot more if they want necro to be like that.
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How do I play Spectre without ruining my chances of winning?
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>both us and enemy used all buyback
>1 clash determines the game
>we smoke
>carry blinked forward
>smoke pop
>he fucked up and is now getting chased by the whole enemy team
>I as a support threw my body away so I can save my carry
>I manage to juke them and barely survive
>I ping the sanctuary
>carry and the rest went to the sanctuary
>hey wait up
>he ignored me and used it alone
>guys I'm gonna back , can you b as well?
>the rest of my team follows carry to protect him
>enemy team finds them
>team wiped
>wtf where support?
>stupid support report stand at well and do nothing
why lads why
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>>163485441
badman's build from this time last year
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>>163480820
>people who use quas wex and exort to generally refer to spells
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>>163485089
I played after they changed it from N to E
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>>163483376
To piggyback onto this question, which of these time bombs is the easiest for a literal retard to play?

I'm assuming Specter, and Medusa because they're harder to kill?

Please forgive my ignorance, I'm a 3k shitter who has to ask about everything p. much
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>>163485441
HotD into AC
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>>163485792

Spectre early game is cannon fooder, if you're not in a bracket where you get aggresively ganked constantly you can pretty much afk farm and just press R on a teamfight for free gold

Most easiest hero to play that scales well and is relevant in all game phases would be Juggernaut hands down
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>>163486209
>Most easiest

Inbred detected.
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>>163486209
I more often than not get to just sit quietly and farm for about 30-45 minutes before anybody bothers doing anything. Just looking for heroes that can capitalize on that the most, i.e.; timebombs

Thanks
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I just realized that the point of this patch was so that Valve could compete with Blizzard's Overwatch.

It actually makes complete sense now. CS: Go could never capture the same audience that Overwatch did. They needed an Overwatch-bane and so they had to forge Dota 2 into one. So they dismantled all the "hardcore" esoteric aspects of the game, the little Warcraft 3 RTS mechanics, the pacing of the game that rewarded technical attention, and replaced it with something that had immediate and broadband appeal.

I understand now...
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>>163485792
yeah, in theory, but relying on your enemy's incompetence to not pressure you or finish to be that timebomb is not a reliable strat, especially as dota becomes more and more memefight every patch

Spec and Medusa are both heroes that rely a lot on their team for safety and kill potential, especially with ult down.

It's far better to play a proactive carry that can take control early and make plays happen for the team. Void is a good example of a timebomb carry that can make things happen with a retard team as long as they can dps during chrono.
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>you will never ever snipe tranq boots ever again thanks to le epic backpack of no risk
fuck this dogshit game
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>>163486343
Why do these people think you can just dumb down your game and others will flock to it? Think about the majority of other shitty ass games that tried to end taking the CoD audience and ended up being pure shit and dead. Fucking idiots the lot of valve
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>>163486343
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>>163486382
>not being a proactive play-making medusa with hotd and desolator.
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>waga finally the top streamer even taking time out his holidays to provide entertainment for everyone
>sumail starts streaming
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>>163486343
Overwatch isn't even the same genre retard. Might as well be competing with Skyrim.
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>>163486558
there are better heroes for this playstyle and you know it
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>>163486343
This is actually fucking retarded.
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>>163486503
No cream or patch can raise your MMR to a 4 digit number :^)
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>tfw the last games of dota you'll ever play were ultra comfy visage games to end on a little high
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>>163486576
Why do you care?
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>>163486673
But they're not as strong at every point in the game.
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>>163487082
Don't worry, anon. I wanted to buy the new AoE II DLC, and it ain't on sale either.
I know how you feel
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>>163487082
anime doesn't deserve a merry christmas
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>>163487082
if it makes you feel better the DLC takes less than 3 hours and the pvp is still garbage. Even DS3 content creators are quitting the game
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Dota 2, Redditor's Choice
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What the fuck did they do to this game? It used to be so well optimized and load so nice and smoothly
It can't be the ~10gbs of hats right?
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>>163487236
she's not as strong at every point in the mmr scale

specifically the good part of the mmr scale
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>>163487469
a lot of graphical elements were changed over to a valve developed engine rather than a third party one so the game will run like ass and crash constantly until it gets fixed which wont happen until after the holidays at the least
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>>163487082
>dlc
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why is it only high end rigs

my pc runs it fine 1080p 60 FPS max settings for everything and it was the same last patch
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>>163487456
(You)
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-Death Pulse now deals base damage + % of current HP and heals base + % of missing HP.
-Heartstopper Aura now slows movespeed based on amount of missing HP.
-Reaper's Scythe damage is 0.9 per missing HP at all levels.
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>>163487456
dota 2 isnt even top 5 redditor games
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>>163488194
That doesn't seem up to date, I thought Overwatch had over 300k subs.
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>>163487386
Wait, why is it trash?
I remember that I loved DS2's PvP, and wanted to try DS3 to see how that game's PvP was, but I never got the money for the game.
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>>163485441
Repick into a good carry
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Reminder to include lots of fibre into your diet.
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>>163488630
Here here, constipation is the worst.
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>>163488347
Think the robflynn meta from DS2 but with less health, invasions stacked against the invader, the inability to be invaded after you beat the area boss, a far narrower range of S and even A tier weapons, laughably bad magic, staggered R1s being the ideal way to play every weapon class, rolls not increasing in stamina consumption, rolls costing next to no stamina, and worthless infusions.

The PvE is far superior to vanilla DS2 but is worse than its DLC (which was god tier) but the PvP is easily the worst of the series.
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Is BtS still a shit studio?
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What's up with these veil ember games im seeing in higher mmr?
Does the math support the change in playstyle from ember as a physical damage carry to a spell-caster or is it just a fucking meme
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>>163488810
Well, I liked DS2 for it's PvP, so, I guess I should be happy that it gets some traffic back, after all, if it did at all.
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>12 winstreak and counting
>Valve tries to force 50 me to no avail
>Lose first game today
>Because the modem died out

Valve really stepping up their forced 50 tricks
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>>163488995
It's Dota, anything works as long as it makes some sense.

>Ember can deal lots of magic
>let's add a veil and deal more damage
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when I play support
>carry that gets free farm
>mid that gets supports ganking/harassing the enemy mid
>offlane that 1v1's the carry

when I play anything else
>double offlane enemy team, I have a jungler
>double supports teabagging mid, warded high ground
>trilane
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>>163488995
>check dotabuff
>no veil
>shit like maelstrom and skadi as first item rushes
>~6500-7000 mmr

what is this
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>>163488995
Ember had like a 44% winrate doing the traditional build.

The problem with him being physical DPS is that the enemy team can just tank up and mostly ignore you because Ember is terrible at manfighting because of his poor durability.

He outputs a lot of magical DPS and has talents that amplify spell damage, reduce cooldowns and both of his level 25s are good.

So it makes sense capitalising on his magical DPS output and building around it just like Mirana once her Aghs came out.
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>>163489132
>>163489458
Does that mean ember, in this sense, becomes a mid-game hero like puck? and tries to end the game before it goes late? Because i'm unsure as to whether build can scale well, coming from a former "give me all the farm, i have a game to lose" hero picker
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>>163489650
It scales fine because he can go veil, dagon, octarine with low cooldown spells with a lot of impact.
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>>163489650
he kind of always is the best in the mid game, both builds.

If you go the "give me all the farm", you should be having pretty high damage before everyone really can expect it.

With the magic build, magic does best in early-middle game
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>>163484240
>Be in game with 4 south americans
>enemy team has 3 south americans
>The south americans are all flaming me
>they south americans are saying to commend each other
>some south american on the other team calls me a noob and tells me in got carried in broken english
>I'm 19/2/10 and the next highest kda on the team is 11/11/4

This happened 2 days ago and I just blogged it to tell you don't give a shit what anyone says, if someone types something retard just automatically assume they're a retard and ignore them.
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>>163489739
Ill have to try it out sometime then
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>this merlini game
>enemy medusa gets killed by visage's fucking birds when Winter Wyvern uses curse on her
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>>163489650
>>163489739
>>163489585
I've been testing this new magic build

It seems very underwhelming
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>when your a 72 armor dragon knight and the enemy witch doctor thinks it's a good idea to ult you
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>>163490474

At what point is too much armor?
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Nice patch, dotards.
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How strong would an item with Far Sight on it be?
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>>163489585
Veil seems bad

I actually like the older summail build where you go orchid on ember and gank with him

I don't see a problem with phase boots > orchid > bkb > silvers edge/blink

I think orchid is better than veil on him desu
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>>163489968
Just look at this bullshit

https://www.dotabuff.com/matches/2865406318

What was even happening in this game?
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>>163490818
>Veil seems bad

His level 10 talent amplifies spell damage by 15%, I assume that stacks additively to be a 40% amplification when combo'd with Veil. Veil also gives him good stats, most importantly armour and INT.
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>>163491048
Veil doesn't increase magic damage by spell amp. It decreases magic resistance to make the enemy take 25% increased spell damage.
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New Necro is so fucking based holy shit
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>>163491114
Same logic, if the enemy heroes take 25% more magic damage and Ember is amplified by 15, it will = 40% additional damage from his spells pending they don't have any magic resistance items.
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people actually still play this game?
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>>163491182
thats not 100% correct math but in practice yes, since veil debuff reduces a hero's magig resistance armor very close to 0%
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>>163489650
it scales pretty good because of the cooldown reduction
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>>163478368
More like AliveTF2
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What headphones do you dotards use?
My 598s just broke on me and I'm looking into getting a new pair. Was actually thinking of falling for a gaming headset meme and picking up some G933s but I dunno yet.

What do you guys use?
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overwatch is kill
if you pick unmeta heroes you'll get flamed
shit's awful
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>>163491827
hold on let me check if I care

nope
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>>163479126
This pic must be one of the most American pics I have seen all day.
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>>163491795
I heard wireless headphones are good now
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>>163491862
>american pic
>literally just a couple taking a selfie together
how fucking obsessed actually
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>>163491827
>a casual shitshow like Overwatch
>having a "meta"

LMAO
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>>163491827
>videogame finally gets it right and adds in a hot milf
>0.45% pick rate
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>about to put drums on quick buy
>puts hotd on it instead
fucking kek
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>mfw when some retarded guy spams "Push now!" and proceeds to push even though the enemy just respawn.
of course he died
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>>163463703
>https://www.dotabuff.com/players/230352267/matches

are you siractionslacks
>>
>>163491795
if you want bang for your buck, then a normal headphones + micc is way cheaper in any case
just google for headphones in whatever price range you want and you'll find plenty of people who know what they're talking about discussing them, then google up some decent clip on micc for your shirt or some shit
of course, having a headsett can be practical and all but if you want to save money then buy headphones and a micc seperate
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>>163491938
I didn't even said it as a bad thing,but whatever.
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>when you are roaming bh and the asks you to babysit
>>
>launch a game
>can't see the stats even when I press alt now
>have to mouse over a small area at the bottom of the screen
is that what being trolled feels like?
>>
>>163492209
Hey, buy the new Monkey King Arcana.

And also the terrain.
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>yfw you lose against monkey king
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trying 2 play dota 2 but my computer keeps overheating. i cleaned out the dust and everything. why. why.
>>
>Merlini with the HotD plays
holy shit legit
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>>163492336
what's overheating, GPU or CPU

check your heatsink and paste
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>>163492335
>>163492190
>>163492045
alright anon i'll ask
who is she
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>when you raped a scrublord in mid and he eventually feeds because his team "have no support" but you just want to play a nice fair game
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>>163492336
speccs
did you clean it PROPER? and i mean fingerlicking good? if the parts are old then you need to dismantle that shit and get into everything
also like other anon said, heatsink and paste
oh and download HWmonitor or some shit and get some numbers so you have something to work with
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>when you are the mid and you have to buy the courier,wards and even had to gank other lanes
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>be mid waiting for bottle
>safelane decides his aquilla is more important
>courier fight
>I win and get my bottle
>walk courier into mid lane
>it dies
>carry goes on autistic rant, calls me a crybaby and says hes afk farming all game

is there any better feeling
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>>163492725
i hate this

i played sky mage mid and got bullied into buying courier, making me miss out on some early mana and dmg
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>>163492387
>putting the creep in the snowball
confirmed core on tusk
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>>163492482
only dota related post
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>>163492725
>>163492494
>>163492335
>>163492190
>>163492045
adelaide?
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I sure hope someone was fired for this blunder
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>>163492993
>tfw Valve misuse you're and your just like me
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>>163492993
Phil seems like a dick and a supremely nice guy all in one
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>>163493124
He's the manager of two of the biggest manchildren in Dota (RTZ and Sumail) he has to be a dick sometimes
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>me whenever i got matched with raging nerds
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>tfw Zeus will never be competitively viable

>can't contest early runes
>can't last-hit
>can't deny
>pretty much a mid only hero
>guarantees enemy will get everything they want out of a mid lane like SF or Invoker or Tinker
>>
>>163493332
He should get a talent that lets lightning bolt hit buildings.
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>>163493291
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LuKzt7p-MnM
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>>163493332
Zeus is only there to let yourself out of the trench with minimal effort
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Will Crystal Maiden ever not be a slut?
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>>163463556
Why the fuck is steam the link for guides? Does Dota 2 not have their own version of Solomid.net or Probuilds.com?
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>when your teammate "ganks" mid and fails, then he unintentionally leeches your exp
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>>163493810
Stop bad mouthing cm. I play her all the time to support my friend and there is nothing wrong with being a slut.
>>
Name one (1) objectively bad change with 7.00/7.01

You can't.
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>>163494121
carries are cucked
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>that sound when the accept button comes up and your heart starts racing for that +25/-25 MMR
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>>163494121
They turned the game into a shitty hero of the storm ripoff piece if shit
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>>163493810
>>
>>163494303
It actually is nice.
>can finally see shit without the bottom half not clogging at least 30% of the screen
>>
>>163494121
I would answer you but I can't remember my intelligence
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>me playing at SEA server
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>haven't played dota since 7.00
>happier
>new motivation and more time to do the things that improve me
So this is what I've been missing out on
>>
Reminder that there is literally NO REASON to keep enemie's mana bar hidden. It's not like it's hidden information, it's just half-assedly forcing you to left click on enemies. It's toxic design that goes against everything we've learned in the past ten years.
>>
>>163494215
good
>>163494227
good, we need more players
adapt or die
>>163494432
press alt
>>
>>163494676
>press alt

You don't even play the game, fag. Fuck off and delete this post b4 I beat you up, nerd.
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>>163494676
>press alt
you're a patch late boi
stats are toxic information, you have to hover over the bottom bar to see them now
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>>163494676
>carries are cucked
>good

did you know that 9 out 10 top tier dotards are carries?
>>
>>163494857
>>163494879
Oh did a new patch come out?
Oh well, not like attributes were that important outside 2-3 heroes. You can still see them if you wanted to though.
>>
gulag I like the talent tree system. Am I casual now?
>>
>>163494936
>Oh well, not like attributes were that important
how is that valve cock tasting?
>>
>>163494936
It's been like this for a week you stupid fuck.

You still haven't finished downloading it, Pedro?
>>
Why is /a/ invading us?
You don't see me spamming dota 2 related images in your weab cartoon threads, fuck off.
>>
>>163494971
The gulag has always been casual.
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>>163468561
>6.82
>He was so broken that he could be played on any lane, any role. Carry, Support, Initiator, you name it.

>6.85
>His Scorched Earth was so strong that he became the strongest tower diving ganker for a while

>6.86
>Blademail buffs + His old Infernal blade made him a staple pick from the Shanghai Major up to the Manila Major

tl;dr
Whenever Doom is viable, he's cancer.
>>
This is such a shit patch for Clinkz. How can we fix it?
>>
>>163495035
>2 days
>a week
lol
>>
>>163495045
It's funny but you literally can't do that since /a/ has a majority of the mods and janitors.

The other few are in /tg/ and the manager spends all his days whacking off to cuckold porn on /pol/.

Hiro killed moderation on this site.
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>>163494597

In a non ironical way I have always wondered the very same thing. Why is it that you cannot see your oponents mana and viceversa? I cannot think of a good reason for it to NOT be enabled.
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>>163494971
The talent tree is the only good thing about this update.

Fuck the infinite bounty runes.
>it's a good rune control you have there buddy, let me just walk into my jungle and grab a bounty instead lmao fken outskilled
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>>163495137
clinkz + slardar to be precise
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>>163495152
HUD update was in 7.00 for attributes, Pedro.
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>>163495159
baby duck syndrome
ye oldfags would throw a shitfit if they changed that
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>>163495137
>shit patch
>roaming memefight marathon
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>>163495159
because it's always been like that and because it would further casualise the game
which means you can expect it in a few patches
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>>163495034
They're not important my friend, you can keep using the fact you can't see attributes anymore as the reason you're still 2k, but you need to understand they're not as important as you think.

Noone calculates the damage during the midst of a team fight, and if you're looking to see your probable damage you're likely doing it while not in immediate danger, so hovering over your stats to see it in the new HUD isn't that much different than before.
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>>163494024
Do you suck him when the match is finished?
>>
>>163495409
honestly I'm surprised that we got visible disable bars before the mana bars

I'm also surprised the shitflinging about disable bars has already died down
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>>163495137
>>163495205
I actually misread you piece of shit
Clinkz is GOD this patch and with slardar, he's an autowin

Talents list :
1.+10 Int
2.+30 Searing damage
3.+10 stats (You're likely ending the raxes at this point or maybe even the game. If no, you suck)
4.+125 Range (Why would you need attack speed if you can kill people in 2-4 hits)

Items :
Pick up bounty and straight bottle
Treads blight stone
Soul Ring
Desulator

and whatver the fuck you casual shit
>>
>>163495456
>non-game fag spouts his opinions
wew
>>
7.01a

Enemy Mana is now shown at all times
Enemy CDs/Gold/Stash/Ability levels are now shown at all times.
Team Auto-Balance added, heroes will shift between radiant and dire to keep networth equal against both sides.
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>>163495608
You're cute :)
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>tfw you getting jebaited
starting items bstone tangos salve
this fucking guy was 1lvl+ below tinker 2mins in while he had no rotations from pudge till ~7-8mins in game (he was with riki top).how is possible to be this bad at almost 4k,atleast got my notification that valve took actions tho feelsniceman
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>>163495480
I wish I could, but I erp him to get him off, like the good pet I am.
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>>163495621
Sounds legit

7.01b
Base gold per second is now variable depending on your net worth relatively to the other team
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>>163495621
You forgot:

Enemy last hit/deny stats are now visible
>>
Anyone else been learning League of Legends lately to get a feel and be prepared for NuDota future?
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>>163495456
>>163494936
agreed

can we also hide the item inventories, hp/mp bar, attack damage, armor, movespeed, attackspeed and exp bar?

they just take up space that info isn't even important
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>>163495587
I love Clinkz, but having a hero reliant on invis that offers nothing to his team other than high physical burst just isn't enough in high level play.

I'm sure he 'rapes' in your ebin 2k - 3k bracket, but your opinion holds zero weight at least until you're 5k.
>>
So all those beautiful wondrous picturesque UIs I paid real life American dollars for are completely and utterly worthless and unusable now huh

Bravo valve
>>
>>163495773
how do you make your map have no border?
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>>163495773
tinker easily wins mid vs sniper
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>>163495873
No way anon, that would mean mass bullying!
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>>163495903
they should remove denying too it isn't important either
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>>163495804
>you will never have a support like this

I bet you're a great CM, anon~
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can't we just remove the UI completely?
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>>163495456
>Noone calculates the damage during the midst of a team fight
then why do you need your attack speed displayed at all time you cuck?
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>>163495908
ok mr. pro.
I'd take that as motivation and Im going to spam clinkz so you'll lose your respects to beloved "5ks" and your beliefs that they cannot be memed by invis
>>
What do you do for mana on DK?
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>>163495886
You're wasting your time. You should be learning HotS.
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>>163481581
>Downgrading the game was strictly not worth it. Just fucking roll back the patch already holy shit.
That would nice, but it's too much to hope for.
>>
>>163496035
honestly we should just start at lv25 in the middle of the map with max gold and whoever gets the most kills in 10mins wins
>>
>>163496081
soul ring
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>>163495908
his winrate is directly proportional to skill bracket and is highest at 5k with 49%
if that isn't good enough for you then play nothing but invoker you pretentious faggot
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>>163496081
Bottle if you're mid, Soul Ring if you're not.
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>>163495886
I tried to watch some of the last tournament and it was so fucking horrible, the pros don't innovate because the patch doesn't fucking change for the entire year so every tournament is literally a honeypot lan
>>
>>163496106
this desu i feel like this is what icefrog always intended but could never do due to technical limitations
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>>163496106
Why not make Overthrow the default mode and hide competitive dota inside a custom game and let icefrog do his bidding there free from the suits
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>>163496069
>he thinks he can get to 5k spamming Clinkz
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>>163495996
yeah but how bad??wouldn't he be able to harass and last hit with shrapnel?look his build,tinker had bots at ~8

>>163495951
idk options?
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>>163496242
Wow, you really think I can't? Give me a week you piece of shit.
>>
>>163496289
tinker wins very hard

from min 0 tinker just takes the high ground and controls the creepwave, if sniper tries to trade of lasthit tinker just lasers him and trades hits. After 3mins tinker should have a bottle while sniper has maybe five last hits with tinker denying the ranged creeps thus having a level advantage. From here tinker can then spam rocket to ensure sniper cannot get close to the lane, and the snowball of exp and gold just grows.

Shrapnel doesn't do shit tinker will just walk in and laser sniper
>>
So let's talk some Dota 2.

Why is HotD the hot shit for carries now?
Why is MK so overhyped? He's a fan-fucking-tastic roaming hero, but not that great to be a 1 or 2.
Why does the game feel so overwhelming? Many games where we'll turn around after being outplayed constantly from minute 0 and still win a single team fight and secure a win.
What happened to Pitlord? The nerfs didn't SEEM that harsh, but I could be wrong because I'm not seeing any of them lately.
Fuck Treant.
NP's New lv25 Talent is underwhelming
QoP's New lv25 Talent is broken as fuck, but comes with a shit hero lol.
Is there any reason why Visage is not allowed to be good in dota? Legit mad at birds useless if they're not holding hands with papa visage. Actually taking a fucking break playing the game and installing Morrowind again.
>>
>>163496506
>Why is HotD the hot shit for carries now?
is it?
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>Behavior score is so low I only get macthed with people that froth at the mouth for any and every reason
>Literally 5 reports when I have all chat disabled and don't type a word or even spam well played

What does one even do at this point? Transfer all my Immortals to a new account and start fresh??
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>keyboard broken
>been playing with bots as mouse only wk
>get bored and try zeus
>bind q, w and one item to middle mouse and side buttons
>realize the +2 regen and respawn talents do nothing for a hero who usually builds bloodstone

Also don't bind q to middle mouse holy fuck my finger hurt after a while. /blog
>>
supports that are free mmr
>omni
>treant
>bounty hunter
thank me later
>>
>>163496506
>Why is HotD the hot shit for carries now?

It's basically the new drums. Gives good stats, HP regen and a creep for helping your or stacking.

>Why is MK so overhyped? He's a fan-fucking-tastic roaming hero, but not that great to be a 1 or 2.

Because of all the ebin OSfrog xD spammers in Twitch whenever he kills anyone doing anything.

>What happened to Pitlord? The nerfs didn't SEEM that harsh, but I could be wrong because I'm not seeing any of them lately.

Pitlord is great, he has the #3 winrate in 5k+ and is probably my favourite solo offlaner.

>Is there any reason why Visage is not allowed to be good in dota? Legit mad at birds useless if they're not holding hands with papa visage.

He's still good, all of the autistic mains cry whenever he gets nerfed despite his high winrates in higher brackets.

Micro heros have a tendency to get overbuffed because le micro is hard :(((
>>
>haven't played ranked in forever
>try it
>get a guy who doesn't want to buy, and buys 6 couriers and 50 sentries on Mirana
>we were winning 4v5 until 30 minutes until we started to fall off

This is painful.
>>
>>163496675
>bloodstone on zoos
that's an old as fuck build senpai
>>
>>163496506
Hotd is only hotshit for high MMR players. Being able to use the creep really makes the item amazing. It also has the broken HP regen aura and some decent attackspeed at a very low price.

monkeyking wins vs any melee hero and can snowball from there. he's been nerfed

pitlord is broken
>>
>>163496719
>He's still good, all of the autistic mains cry whenever he gets nerfed despite his high winrates in higher brackets.
He's good if played as a core and not as a support anymore, it's going to be hard for a lot of players to get use to birds needing to be locking hips with visage now to avoid getting killed instantly to any AoE.
>>
>>163496628
Enjoy playing bitch support every game while walking on egg shells all the time and sucking everyones dick :^) I'm in the same jam life is suffering
>>
>>163496785
>monkeyking wins vs any melee hero
lol
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>Blizzard can consistently make top-tier waifu materials
>Warcraft humans, humanoid dragons, & draenei
>Starcraft's Kerrigan
>Damn near every female Overwatch & HoTS character

>The best vale can do is a midget on a cat, a giraffe-necked blonde ditz, and a flat nose ring ginger
>>
>>163496461
yep thats how it went.the dumbass shrapnel the 2nd creepwave when was going to push,tinker denied everything and was over after that.the dude was pretty fucking bad is general tho,wish i had a high mmr replay or something of this mid match up seems interesting
>>
>>163497043
All Dota girls are good though?
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At what mmr do people actually start drafting real drafts and not five carries?

t. 2k mmr
>>
>>163497043
>a giraffe-necked blonde ditz
who?
>>
>>163496081
Echo Saber or Orchid>Bloodthorne
>>
>>163497043
Valve excels at husbands not waifus.

See: Brew, Tusk, Slark, Slardar, OD, Pitlord, Nightstalker, Centaur, Dragon Knight, Omniknight, Invoker, Earthshaker, Old Storm, etc.
>>
>>163497293
Probably somewhere around the 6.5k avg mark. Until then just spam omni every game and healcarry manmode your way through every memefight. It's easy mmr.
>>
>>163497293
only near 5k avg games does the draft mean anything
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>>163497043
>top tier waifu material
>>
>tfw still playing this game like 6.84

Roaming Earthshaker, brown boots, tango, clarityx2
start
gank get soul ring
gank get tranquils
gank get blink

and then from there aghs and refresh or force staff and glimmer
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Just got this set through Rylai's Battle Blessing, apparently it's "very rare"
>>
Why can't they just give you back your fucking MMR if you reported someone who fucking intentionally fed and didn't play in your game. I don't want another fucking report I want my fucking MMR.
>>
>>163497625
28cents on the market

berry good
>>
>>163497710
Eh I'm still happy
>>
[Hero Name in Progress]

Q: Reduce MMR of Select player by 1 (30 second cooldown) MMR is stored and released in an AOE when killed
MMR Stolen 1/2/3/4
W: (Passive) Increase the amount of MMR stolen by Q by 1/1/2/2 and also steals MMR of all enemies that die in a 100/150/300/500 radius of your hero
E: Power Within: Consume 10 MMR stolen to obtain a pernament +2/+2/+3/+4 to all stats, if no MMR is available it deducts from your 25/15/10/5 MMR from you.
R: Rank Up!: Spend all MMR stolen and transfer it to your account by 25%/50%/100% of the amount stolen (Aghs: You gain an additional 100%)

How's my hero?
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>>163497625
>Rylai's Battle Blessing
>Battle Blessing
>>
>>163488995
Its like veil gyro. At some point in the game most of your damage output is magic damage, and you need to be able to leverage on that fact when the damage numbers are relevant in order to be useful.
>>
https://www.instagram.com/p/BOVAHfYg4fH/

sumail kinda cute
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This set is so fucking beautiful. Too bad it costs a fortune.
>>
>>163498290
>>163498290
>>163498290
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>>163483737
>natures profit
yeah boi
>>
bump1
>>
rat status?
>>
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>>163497043
>waifus from a dead game
>waifu faggotry at all

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