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/ss13g/ - spessmen on a spess station

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Last time on /ss13g/ - spessmen on a spess station:
>People keep using the WRONG FUCKING PASTEBIN WITH OUTDATED LINKS
>People keep complaining that the OUTDATED LINKS DON'T WORK
>Pedo delamination
>Shitposting slowly returns

>What is Space Station 13?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FHH1vfY6HTA
http://pastebin.com/VNcX2Quc

>New player guide
http://ss13.moe/wiki/index.php/The_Basics
http://ss13.moe/wiki/index.php/General_Help

>BYOND client
http://byond.com/download/build/LATEST/

>Pomf Serbian, main /vg/station server
byond://game.ss13.moe:7777

>Test server
byond://ss13.moe:1337

>Public server list
http://byond.com/games/exadv1/spacestation13

>How do I connect to the servers?
Hit the cogwheel in the upper right corner of the BYOND hub and pick "Open Location"

>/vg/station forum and logs
http://ss13.moe/forum/
http://game.ss13.moe/logs

>Map renders collection: updated sometimes
http://game.ss13.moe/minimaps/images/maps/

>Coderbus, here!
https://github.com/d3athrow/vgstation13
@rizon #coderbus @rizon #vgstation

>Cryo Autism
http://pastebin.com/raw/YmAyagUa

>SS13 booru for all your SS13 images!
http://ss13.booru.org/

>How To Install BYOND: The Video Tutorial: The Movie
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-iWiZwv9f1o

>Nostalgia
https://boards.fireden.net/vg/search/text/ss13g/
http://ss13.moe/index.php/bans

>OP Pastebin
http://pastebin.com/raw/u40ABfJz
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Butt for butt
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I warned you about snowstorm but you didn't listen.
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P I N
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>>163450647
I warned you about butt but you didn't butt.
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free kingston
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>>163450697
Free butt
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free butt
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>>163450697
free butt
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butt butt
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>can't even escape butt bots in the thread
THIS IS HELL
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>>163450932
>can't even butt butt bots in the butt
THIS IS BUTT
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>>163450974
>butt even butt butt butt in the butt
>BUTT IS BUTT
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What you fags think about the new Fallout 13?
It's been revived by some commie, looks cool but i'm not sure how would you create a wasteland survival experience in ss13.
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>>163451382
What you butt think butt the new Fallout butt?
It's butt revived by some butt, looks cool but i'm not sure how would butt butt a wasteland survival butt in ss13.
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>>163450386
>just from the 1 pixel wide line at the bottom you can tell the next words were "ME POWERS"
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>>163451382
it sucks so much shit
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>>163451507
What you butt butt butt the new butt butt?
It's butt butt by some butt, looks butt butt i'm not sure how butt butt butt a butt survival butt in butt.
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What you butt butt about the butt Fallout butt
It's butt revived by butt commie, looks cool but i'm butt butt how would butt create a butt survival experience butt butt.
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>just from the 1 pixel butt butt at the buttyou can tell butt butt butt were "BUTT POWERS"
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FUCK
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>this thread is gonna last like 3 hours shorter than usual because of butt posting
glorious
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BUTT
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Mechanics are NOT ALLOWED ANYWHERE NEAR CRYO.
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>>163451828
>this butt is gonna butt like 3 butt shorter than butt because butt butt posting
butt
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>this butt butt gonna butt like 3 hours butt than usual because butt butt butt
glorious
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Mechanics butt BUTT ALLOWED ANYWHERE NEAR BUTT .
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LYNCH THE ROBOTICIST
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Mechanics butt butt ALLOWED butt NEAR butt.
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LYNCH THE BUTT
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>>163452157
LYNCH THE BUTT
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BUTT THE BUTT
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Which waifu has the best butt??
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Butt THE butt
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>>163452246
>>163452220
BUTT THE BUTT
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>>163452326
butt butt!
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You add the sandwich sandwich sandwich sandwich sandwich sandwich sandwich sandwich sandwich sandwich sandwich sandwich sandwich sandwich sandwich to the sandwich sandwich sandwich sandwich sandwich sandwich sandwich sandwich sandwich sandwich sandwich sandwich sandwich sandwich sandwich sandwich.
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You add the sandwich sandwich sandwich sandwich butt sandwich sandwich sandwich butt sandwich sandwich butt sandwich sandwich sandwich to butt butt sandwich butt sandwich sandwich sandwich sandwich sandwich sandwich sandwich butt butt butt sandwich sandwich sandwich.
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>>163452510
You butt the butt sandwich sandwich sandwich sandwich sandwich sandwich sandwich sandwich sandwich sandwich sandwich sandwich sandwich sandwich to the sandwich sandwich sandwich sandwich sandwich sandwich sandwich sandwich sandwich sandwich sandwich sandwich sandwich sandwich sandwich butt.
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Sarca, I know you're very sensitive about your intelligence. You have a complex about ensuring that you use the biggest words and throw in lots of obscure or lesser-used grammar. Generally, people who do this do it because they feel inadequate intellectually.
The magnitude of your inadequacies is painfully obvious with how much you believe that anyone in this community, a community that hates you and thinks you are mentally ill, cares what you have to say in your long-winded, rambling, often nonsensical rants against whatever you have taken upon yourself to rant against this week.
You identify people that are liked here and then try to smear them for no reason, often with no actual material with which to smear them.
We have to suffer through your inane drivel because you can't face the fact that we don't like you or care what you have to say.
You can't understand that you aren't the center of attention.

Also you used the wrong "you're", faggot
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You feel a sharp pain in your head
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Sarca, butt know you're very butt about your intelligence. You have a complex about ensuring that you use the butt words and throw in lots of butt or butt-used grammar. Generally, people who do this do it because they feel inadequate intellectually.
The butt of your inadequacies is painfully obvious with how much you butt that anyone in this community, a butt that hates you and thinks you are mentally ill, cares what you have to say in your long-winded, butt, often nonsensical rants against whatever you have taken upon butt to rant against this butt.
You identify people that are liked here and then try to smear them for no reason, often with no actual butt with which to smear them.
We have to suffer through your inane drivel because you can't face the fact that we don't like you or care what you butt to say.
You can't understand that you aren't the center of butt.

Also you used the wrong "butt", faggot
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>>163452326
It's Megurine Luka!!!!!
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>>163452778
nega-sarca was such a good time
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>>163452881
>not "they feel butt intellectually"
one butt
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It's butt Luka!!!!!
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Everytime I go to medbay Avada takes care of me super quickly! Who is your favorite medbay and why is it Avada?
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>>163453012
stop shilling butt
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>butt "they butt butt intellectually"
butt butt
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Butt posting is a discord raid, do not give yous to butt posters.
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post medbay
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Butt butt is a discord raid, butt not butt butt to butt posters.
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>>163453012
i miss slurp
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OOC: quentin7395: kayleigh is the vampire. we must unite to defeat her.
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bethman is the hero we deserve
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butt: quentin7395: kayleigh butt the butt. we must unite to butt her.
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OOC: quentin7395: kayleigh is butt vampire. we must unite to butt her.
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STOP REEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>163453579
>>163453590
>tfw you will never butt kayleigh
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>>163453616
BUTT REEEEEEEEEEEE
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Buttbots are the most reddit part of this game
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>Go outside escape to save someone
>Get hit with a lag spike pulling them back in
>Get smashed by the shuttle so hard the game crashes, and then freezes chat
fug
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>>163453681
you were a great borg. was sad to see your untimely end
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butt were a butt borg. was sad butt see your untimely butt
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So, since it's orgasming day, does that mean ERP is allowed?
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carps shouldn't spawn near the station

it ruined my comfy
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>>163453204
I know that's a wizard round because I'm walking barefoot in vomit in that picture.
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>>163453827
let me guess this round, rogue?
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>>163453827
Actually it wasn't, I think it was vamp
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>>163453896
early days of nanites
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BEST WAIFU
YOU CAN NOT EVEN COMPETE FE(((MALES)))!
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>>163453818
i felt saddened when i passed by and saw all your stuff in space
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How do I send crates back to cargo through disposals?
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BEST butt
YOU CAN butt butt COMPETE FE(((butt)))!
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What is your favorite job in ss13?
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>log in
>who
>avadanatinde
>Log out
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>>163454116
You need a chute, not a bin, AFAIK the only one there is is in Security maint
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>>163454116
I think you can print destination taggers off the autolathe now. and you can make wrapping paper with the biogenerator. Not sure if you could drag it into disposals but you could build a rapid piping device off the lathe and reconfigure your disposal system.. or just take a welder and turn the crate to metal.
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I think you can print destination taggers butt the autolathe now. and butt can make wrapping butt with the butt. Not sure if you could drag it butt disposals but you could butt a rapid piping device off the lathe and reconfigure your disposal butt.. or just take a butt and turn the crate to metal.
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>>163454116
Just welder them or push them in the hallway and let someone else (no one) deal with them.
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>>163454174
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https://github.com/d3athrow/vgstation13/pull/12992

What is this stupid SHIT
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>>163454589
get used to it faggot
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>>163454589
Fine, I'll revert it in three months after everyone gets used to this new layout
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>>163454589
honestly
when i first learned about these shortcuts i was enthused but i still got them flipped around for the longest time because my brain just rejected the original premise for some reason
not a necessary change though
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>>163454589
>coders are just fucking with us now
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>>163454589
What in the fuck, its logical as shit, shift for the much more used shit, alt for the rarer and outright not needed bollocks, there are pens everywhere, especially in jobs you actually need them in, like in the IAA office.

Fucks sake, is this a joke. Revert this shit probe.
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Is there a method of rapidly replacing a load of broken references in the dream maker map editor without it just crashing?
If not replacing just outright deletion, it can handle a few blanks but in my case we're talking several hundred.
I can only do so much in a text editor using replace before i go insane.
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That roboticist was great.
t. Gerald
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>>163457104
RIPLEY STEALING NIGGER AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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RIPLEY butt NIGGER butt
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>>163457510
I just wanted sell mecha to vox!
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>>163456474
learn to grep
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>>163457798
>tfw liking vox more and more
I want to make a plasteel cage and make a vox my pet!
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Butt butt wanted sell butt to vox!
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>>163454589
TG uses alt click so we have to copy everything we can from the better codebase.
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my name is theycallmesid.


post my notes.
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>>163454589
>Coders changing controls because they can't remember them

YOU CAN'T MAKE THIS SHIT UP
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good round
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>Coders changing butt because they can't butt them

YOU butt MAKE THIS butt UP
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end it reee
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>>163458789
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JeimE8Wz6e4
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>>163458854

>YOU BUTT MAKE BUTT UP
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>>163456362
>shift
shift is for examine you dumb fucker
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>>163458789
That was the first non sarcastic award I've given in 6 months.
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>>163459635
Im tired as fuck, give me a break.
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Whoever nerfed magic missile overdid it grossly, it is so slow that it is almost impossible to hit someone with it, specially if they are armed!

I know it was OP before, but now it is so useless it might as well be removed.

Please rebalance the spell and find middle ground between the OP version and this shit version, or simply remove the spell from the game.
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>>163459727
did you mean to say "ctrlclick is for the much more used shit"
because there's literally ONE object that uses ctrl+click for something other than dragging and it's the PDA
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Butt round
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Good butt
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>>163459825
Just ignore me, Im a sleep deprived retard talking nonsense,
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What was the result of all that waiting then?
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my butt is butt


post my butt
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>>163460258
a stern talking-to
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When MoMMIs make shuttles and admins add in thrusters and control consoles, what are the destinations that it can go to? Same as the salvage shuttle?
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>>163460258
Butt was the result of butt that waiting butt?
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>>163460549
talking-to to who?
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>>163454174
Kaylie is a pear
A PEAR I SAY
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>>163460725
Depends on the whims of the admin, you can wire those fuckers to go just about anywhere.
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>>163460830
admim
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>>163461038
syndicate HQ and centcomm, please :)
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A stern butt
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https://github.com/d3athrow/vgstation13/pull/13011
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>>163461683
PJB is literally autistic, what's new
it's still the Vocal Minority Squad throwing a shitfit over nothing yet again
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>>163460725
Depends on what they feel like. I've once had to roam the stars endlessly because I wasn't given a destination close to home.
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>>163461734
Hello I'm yclat
Let me be completely wrong and start a shitshow over nothing
Oh whoops the PR has 100 comments of me stubbornly parroting the same non argument now, too controversial better close it
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Why is solarious allowed to post on the github? They do the same shit there they did on the forums.
Plus they self-banned themselves AGAIN to 'get their life together' or some shit and are still commenting on shit.
Can they just fuck off?
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>banned for their own sake
>wtf I can control myself
>hey ban me until 2018 I can't control myself
:thinking:
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>>163461958
YCLAT
SOLARIOUS
ICANTTHINKOFANAMERIGHTNOW

VOCAL MINORITY SQUAD, ASSEMBLE!
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>>163462421
this is so true, wish they had never got unbanned from celts ban
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>>163462421
>>163462656
kolith why are you replying to yourself?
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>>163462710
i'm not kolith and i dont even like kolith
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if you weren't already convinced, this is a great demonstration:
people are very simply afraid of change
there's nothing more to it
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>>163462902
>tfw happy with the change
I always accidentally pull out my pen instead of my ID, now I will actually get it first time.
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>>163463026
>tfw unhappy with the change but it's so minor and inconsequential that i'm happy some other people are happy
i got it right 100% of the time but it really won't take more than 1-2 times to get a hang of the new shortcut
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>all the PRs merged in the past few days
>the one to cause a shitstorm was swapping two hotkeys
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>>163463249
Bikeshedding
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>>163462285
>>163462421
I asked for a ban for a year to focus more on work in 2017, it's still 2016 for a bit.

I won't be here in 2017, don't worry celt your predictions won't come true.
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>>163461683
Why the fuck is this an issue? It's a fucking shortcut
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>>163463249
Parkinson's law of triviality is C. Northcote Parkinson's 1957 argument that members of an organisation give disproportionate weight to trivial issues.[1] He provides the example of a fictional committee whose job was to approve the plans for a nuclear power plant spending the majority of its time on discussions about relatively minor but easy-to-grasp issues, such as what materials to use for the staff bike-shed, while neglecting the proposed design of the plant itself, which is far more important but also a far more difficult and complex task.
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>>163463249
I'm sure we could rig a hotkey customiser solution up by abusing defines and the sqldb. But what madman dare touch the latter? not i!
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>>163463249
>148 pull requests merged in the last 7 days
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>>163463457
the fact you have to ask for a ban is just pathetic. How old are you? 13? Do you have no self-restraint? Or are you just retarded? Do us all a favor and never return to /vg/, you're a bigger cancer on the community than anyone who's ever been rule 0'd.
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Keep in mind that this hotkey argument is LITERALLY as inconsequential as arguing whether dexalin+ pills should be light blue and blue, or pure light blue.
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>>163463815
Anyone that says anything but light blue and blue should be medbay banned
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But the real important thing is this: Dexalin plus in cryo?
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Keep in mind that this hotkey argument is LITERALLY as inconsequential as having strong feelings about belts and whether to wear a brown belt or a black belt.
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>>163464142
Brown belt cucks can die in a fire.
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>>163464198
Brown belt with a colored suit. This is important. You can wear black belt with shit like blue jeans sure, but if you're in a blue suit and I see you with a black belt, I'll hang you with it.
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>>163464012
30 clonexa, 30 cryoxa, no use putting anything else.

Pople can autism for a split second more, but really, 30 clonexa 30 cryoxa will do you more than fine.
>>163464142
Black belts look better in just about everything, brown belts are shit.
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>all this butt
Whatever happened to the guy who played the Butt pai? Love that little dude
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>>163464198
Man of taste and the truth.
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>>163464580
You need alkysine and ryetalyn in the fucking mix.
This is non-negotiable. Everything else is negotiable, alkysine and ryetalyn are not.
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>>163464693
>>163464580
The beaker should always be filled to the max.
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>>163464693
To add on to what this guy said, Clonexadone, Cryoxadone, Alkysine and Ryetalyn are non-negotiable. The rest quite literally doesn't matter.
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>Your vision becomes cloudy, and your mind becomes clear.
What does this message mean?
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>>163465008
Exactly what it says
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To butt on to what butt guy said, butt, butt, Alkysine butt Ryetalyn are butt. The rest quite literally butt matter.
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gary i trusted you
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creepy detective is creepy
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>Blob cannot eat Field Generators
You learn something new everyday.
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bwoibwoibwoibwoinkkkkk

those shoes gave me big spooks
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I regret nothing I did that round.
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>>163465895
The real Gary got succ'd before he arrived on the station. Nothing personelll
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>>163451980
#notallmechanics
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>>163466058
STUNG ME TWICE WHILE PARAMEDIC DRAGGED YOU AWAY AND SET YOUR INTERNALS REEEEE
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>>163465912
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xh_1pYNabc0
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IF YOU WANNA BE HAPPY FOR THE REST OF YOUR LIFE
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IF YOU butt BE butt FOR THE REST OF YOUR butt
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>>163466773
WHY DOES THE MOUSE SHARE A HOUSE WITH THE LOUSE THEY WON'T SAY BUT THEY FEEL THEIR FEELINGS
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>>163467138
NEVER MAKE A PRETTY butt YOUR WIFE
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>>163467313
WHY DOES THE butt SHARE butt HOUSE WITH butt LOUSE THEY butt SAY BUT THEY FEEL THEIR butt
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>>163463757
What's your favourite anime?
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>>163467591
Legacy of the galactic heroes
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Would you please stop.
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>>163454589
I literally never used these and probably still won't.
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>>163467591
I've only seen Dragonball and Dragonball Z
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Would you please butt
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Would butt please butt
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>>163467591
Avatar: the last airbender

Korra is a shit!
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>>163463249
The flashbang thing is bullshit
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>>163467968
Avatar: the butt Airbender

Korea is butt butt
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>>163467591
Other than the pleb tier shit I've only ever seen FLCL and Cowboy Bebop
liked 'em both tho
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>>163468081
oh noooo now i can't use a flashbang for everything i would use a taser for
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>>163468083
>butt airbender
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>>163468081
What have they done to flashbangs?
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>>163468125
FLCL is my favourite! What did you think of it?
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>>163468270
Removed your immunity to them if you're still holding it when it goes off
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>>163468270
Instead of trying to hit the yaketying guy some officers would prime a flashbang, hold it in their hand, and then go allahu ackbar the guy. There's fuckall the other guy can do about this because all you need to do is keep them inside your screen and they have protection, you don't.
That's not what grenades are supposed to be used like.
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>>163468270
fixed them
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>>163468261
t. autiste who starts running around in circles the second a cop walks in
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>>163468513
>>163468442
So holding a flashbang now acts as if you were standing on top of it?
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>>163468397
I only ever saw it on adult swim after several days of minimal sleep and enjoyed the ride though i don't remember a whole lot
if i were to watch it again i imagine seeing memevangelion or whatever would probably enhance the experience
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So holding a butt now acts as if you were butt on butt of it?
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>>163468732
As if you were wearing no helmet or ear protection while standing on top of it.
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As if butt were wearing no butt or butt protection while standing on butt of it.
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>>163467591
Space Dandy
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>>163468732
If you had no eye protection the range doesn't matter, it gives full stun regardless of range.
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As if butt were butt no butt or butt protection while butt on butt butt it.
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>>163468770
FLCL is very short you should rewatch it sometime. Very good characters and an interesting story. My waifu is the best character though!
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Do flashbangs work on people without eyes?
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>>163468261
Fuck you.
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>>163469070
yes, because they have ears
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Butt flashbangs work on people without butt?
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>>163469070
BANG
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>>163469161
>>163469164
What if they don't have ears?
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>>163469070
Rename flashbangs to stun grenades when?
Fucking snowflake ass name for a grenade.
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BUTT
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>>163469224
Well, ears are not an organ yet. But there are earmuffs and deaf genes, use those
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>>163469224
inb4 new powergame meta is to blind and deafen yourself on roundstart
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BUTT
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>>163469309
Is deaf a disability you can pick in the disabilities thing in the character creator?
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>>163469279
but they literally flash and bang
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inb4 new butt meta is to blind and butt yourself on butt
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>>163469279
t. dylan "call of duty wiki" strategie
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>>163469453
I don't care that they do that, they have a special gay ass unique name for a grenade when everything else is just a grenade. Why is this allowed?
Same with 'smoke bombs'. Shitty ass name, just call it a smoke grenade. Fucking snowflakes ruining this server.
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>>163469434
yes, and blind
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>>163469665
Oh, you're shitposting. Okay.
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>>163467591
Monster! But also like pic related.
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Concussion grenades when?
How would they even work in space? Somewhat like an explosion that doesn't breach but does a lot of damage in small areas?
Could come in riot control crates or something.
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Why is everyone showing up naked on my client?
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Playing sec is pretty fun desu
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Butt grenades when?
How would they even butt in space? Somewhat like butt explosion that doesn't breach butt does a lot of damage in small butt?
Could come in butt control crates or butt.
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>>163469914
Update BYOND
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>>163467591
Umaru-chan. Or maybe FMA.
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>>163467591
I don't even anime
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MrPain, please reply to my PM
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butt BYOND
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MrPain, butt reply to my butt
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Update butt
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Butt
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What's your favourite butt?
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>>163471013
red headed mechanic butt
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>>163471013
Dana has a nice butt!
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>>163471013
ButtButt's bizarre buttventure
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>>163471013
Caleigh Stall!
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Butt has a butt butt!
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>>163471013
Big butts.
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>>163471248
been a while since we had a jojo round
http://soundcloud.com/crystalforce/crusaders-of-nazareth
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Jani antics as a traitor are fun.
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Reminder that Kaylie likes collars
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>>163471912
>meme names
karma
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>Clown orders me to get into AI chamber
>Do what im told but AI notiches and has security raid it.
>Eventually hear janitor screaming at xeno so i get there to check it out
>see big bird attack the captain so drag the captain out and call security who raid the place again
>suddenly get emaged by the clown but blown a second later
>he gets pissed that he cant use me anymore and puts me in a toolbox to space me
>have a grand adventure in my toolbox space ship throught the whole space
>eventually get teleported back and ask how the clown is
>his dead body lays in medical so i clean it up and space the body with the rest of the garbage
Why is being janitor bot so comfy?
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Reminder butt Kaylie likes butt
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>>163471886
>been a while since we had a jojo round
we had one ever?
Shame I missed it
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>>163471013
Can't butt the rin!
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>>163472140
>Spacing a human body on ASSIMOV

DING DONG
>>
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Is slipping someone and then pointing to a wet floor sign the start of an epic new meme??
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>>163472357
Not him, but at that point the body had no head
So it didn't matter
And I think borgs were on NT default when it happened
Unsure about the laws thoguh
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Bring back cancer when
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>>163472403
I like playing janitor and now everyone is playing le funy slip meme man and it upsets me
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>>163472642
Give me your ckey and I will give you cancer every round I see you.
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>>163472294
Captain was Jotaro and there were all the characters from Stardust Crusaders. To make it even more perfect I think the roundtype was vampires. They met at the chapel to uncover the identity of Dio. At the time I hadn't seen anything Jojo related and was playing the librarian. Was capturing the speech when they called me out as a spy for Dio. Stunned and cuffed me then found my camera and tape recorder which was confiscated and given to Joesph. They tried to drag me away but slipped on wet floors and I yakity saxed the rest of the round. They blamed their slipping on the work of my stand. Later the janitor was recruited to hunt Dio for his stand.
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>>163472884
2edgy
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>>163465921
hue, I turned off all the emitters that round, did the singulo eat you?
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>>163472884
2hotdogs
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>>163472884
morena
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>>163472401
>the city of Colonial Marines
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>>163472884
Probe1
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>>163472357
Nothing in asimov about dead humans
Clown had emagged him, usually safe to space him at that point.
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>>163472645
I play for the engaging visceral gameplay. No other game lets me set up wet floor signs and slosh a west mop on the floor back and forth giving it about an inch or 2 of water.

Seeing people running full tilt and then hydroplaning into a wall is what I live for. Seeing someone who just slipped, got back up, and slipped again makes me smile. A smug smile.

People don't have to like the wet floor sign, but they will respect it. Just because we're in space doesn't mean gravity doesn't exist. I'm going to keep reminding the crew of that.

This is my mop. There are many like it, but this one is mine.
My mop is my best friend. It is my life. I must master it as I must master my life.
Without me, my mop is useless. Without my mop, I am useless. I must wet my mop true. I must wet floors better than my enemy who is trying to slip me. I must slip him before he slips me. I will..
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We should re-add Tourist as a job
Exactly the same as Assistant but without maint access, explicitly intended to be the "oh god I'm so new please show me around" job, which of course clowns and assistants would take as "oh god I'm so new please fuck with me" job.

Maybe even restrict it to your first 7 days only, then you can't play it anymore.
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>>163472893
That sounds amazing, way better than the people I've seen with Jojo related names.
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>>163473614
>re-add
It would have to have existed first
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>>163473676
It existed for a while during 2014.
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>>163473676
It existed though, you know when you hit observe and you have the cyan shirt? Those were the tourist jumpsuits.
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>>163473676
it used to exist, and ghosts still spawn with tourist outfits
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>>163473676
>being this new
shameful
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>>163473614
We should re-add vice officer as a fluff detective title. I want to be eighties themed for a change.
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>>163473423
soap
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https://github.com/d3athrow/vgstation13/pull/12994
thanks celt
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>>163467591
come dance with me!
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If I wanted to play on a different server, which would be the best pick?
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did celt actually finish it
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>>163474608
>doc/dragonbro/skullyton screaming in the comments about last-minute finishes

Man ain't been right since zombies
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>>163474624
Needs an "/ss13g/" on it.
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So haven't played for a while and was playing some comfy viro but I noticed a pro-tagist symptom, probably not what it's called, but I couldn't find anything on the wiki about it at the time. What does it do?
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>>163475149
NEKOTOXIN WHEN
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>>163475149
Base version changes the infecteds hair color to a bright primary color.

But, with some additional work from the virologist, this can be added upon.

A bit of work, and it'll force schoolwear on the infected.

A bit more, sock things.

Bit more, cat ears, and make the infecteds sentences end with Nyaa

Top tier, infected get katanas
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>>163475149
Why don't you do research and find out? Inject a moneky, inject yourself, convince someone to let you inject them, make paper work and studies and excuses to expose people to shit to see what happens.

What do you even fucking play for? Valids? Why do I even bother coding for idiots who're more likely going to ctrl f through the code and just read what it does without touching it anyway?
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>>163475508
DragonFoe pls
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>>163475479
Real katanas, or toy ones?
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>>163475508
wew
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>>163475479
>mfw I see someone with bright neon pink hair
>mfw It's just the local waifu cancer

AT LEAST HAVE A NORMAL HAIR COLOR YOU SLUTS
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>>163475615
Depends on how much work you put in

>>163475508
Stop faking being me
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>>163475508
>no information on the wiki
>inject someone to test it out
>whoops turns out it's highly debilitating
>Kavlax throws a no warning perma on me for intentionally releasing a deadly virus
>appeal it
>lifted with perma medbay/head bans
t-thanks
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Forgot to post this yesterday
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vaxmKDgf1Gg
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>>163475828
I didn't say I made the protag viro code code
but I don't need to be a drama whore coder like you to think that the /vg/station players are retarded as fuck and feel like my own code is taken for shit

>OH A NEW THING
>BETTER AFK AND OPEN THE WIKI INSTEAD OF PLAY THE GAME

Or what, are you taking these posts as a personal attack against your code too?
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>>163476015
That guy coded into an NPC when?

Made for a nice mix-up from the usual tactical gunplay of wildwest
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>>163473226
You're toast kiddo
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new ooc color is dank
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>>163476132
what is wrong with you
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WTF happened that round?
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>The last rev head was cuffed in brig
>Had I gone full validhunter and executed all non-implanted people we would have won

Simply ebin.
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>>163476276
Sneaky Communists
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>>163476185
I agree, but AI is cheesable as fuck, i want it to be recrutable as xenos/borer/diaona/wizard for maximum immulsions
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>>163476317
Ain't no validhunting when it's revs, remember this.
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Sorry, Bard. But it's just a game, bro. I hate revs with all my heart. I was going to put you into a new body, maybe get you re-converted, but I only knew one rev head and he got caught by sec.
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Poor borgs all got upgraded.
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>>163476267
instantly removed rip
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>>163476396
https://github.com/d3athrow/vgstation13/pull/12495
my friend
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>>163476276
>revs subverted the AI and stole the armoury
>no security
>still almost(?) lose
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>>163476747
amazing
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>>163474623
Muh nigga
>>
>probe returned
>bauds returned
>1 million bug fixes
>issues closing faster than they can be opened
>antag datums will be done in your life time
>snow map
Are you ready for the golden age of /vg/?
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>>163472357
asimov only cares about LIVE humans
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>Tfw there'll never be an erp server for non furry normies
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>>163478839
>normies
>erp
pick 1
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So, place your bets on bans.
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>blob can produce 6 tiles within a second and 2 hit kill anything it touches
>''''Combat'''' only have a pathetic little laser that runs out fast as fuck
Wew so mutch for ''''''combat''''' borgs, fucking can do more damage as maidmod.
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>people rush the brig demanding guns
>say no
>they fucking break in and attack security
>get mad when arrested for it
>30 minutes later we find out it's blob
>too late to do anything

YOu retards brought this on yourself, non-security isn't allowed guns but you come and just demand them?
What did you expect?
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>>163479587
If that cocksmoker Rin didn't get banned for his stupid petty shit, and the crazy motherfucker who wanted to curse him didn't get banned either... nobody. Nobody is getting banned.
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>>163479663
>blob tearing the station apart literaly 8 tile away
>MIME HOLD ON SURRENDER YOUR EVA SUIT AND GUN
>they all die without firing a single shot againt the blob
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>>163479663
>Blob bio alert
>";EVERYONE FIGHT BLAB"
>Security spends time circlejerking
>Hunts down people who stole shit to fight blob
>All die the second they step outside sec

Job bans, job bans all around.
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Is it possible to sort of just join into this game without fucking a bunch of stuff up?
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>>163479663
>blob alert
>NAW IMMA KEEP MUH GUNS
Get jobbanned.
>>163479706
I couldn't find the logs for his shuttle lubing shitlery, so I didn't make the jobban request.
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>>163479663
>30 minutes later we find out it's blob
Did the red alert and people screaming about fighting the blob not tip you off? Or the people in the armory that you were murdering screaming about how you should be fighting the blob not tip you off?
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>>163479943
What do you mean by fucking stuff up?
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>>163479943
Yeah, there are loads of really unimportant jobs with no real responsibilities like assistant, janitor, xenobiologist or captain.
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>>163479943
If you're not even going to read the rules, here's a summary
Don't be a dick
Don't talk about ANYTHING HAPPENING IN THE ROUND OUTSIDE the round(OOC chat, the thread, steam chat with your buds, etc) until the round ends. Just ignore OOC entirely, F1 if you need help with anything

You'd probably do fine with just that
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>>163479587
Avada is gonna be gone before christmas
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>>163479663
holy shit I spectated it all and you fucking deserve a permanent job ban from security.

stop fucking lying, there were TWO blobs already when all of that happened and the station was on full lockdown already, centcomm messages everywhere, etc, etc.

enjoy you ban, son.
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>>163479943
Totally, remember to read the wiki pages, especially the beginner guides and rules. Press F1 or click the Adminhelp button under the Admin tab in the top right window if you need help.

Pick assisstant as your first job, you'll have no responsibilities and are free to mill around learning the controls.
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>>163479943
>without fucking a bunch of stuff up?
Thats the game tho.
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>>163480123
>>163480150
>>163480157
I understand the roleplay aspect and the rules that go along with that, I meant more mechanically.
I remember trying this once years ago and just sort of got stuck dealing with some lockers or something before a janitor stabbed me
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Jose Guiterrez [Common] (Warden) says, "I have no orders to give weapons to anyone.
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>Cargo shuttle works with no propulsion
>I still cant figure out how to game the system, and get to centcomm
>You can send bombs to Centcomm via the cargo shuttle

HOW DID THAT FUCKING BORG RIDE THE CARGO SHUTTLE TO CENTCOMM.
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>2 blebs on the station
>Jose Guiterrez [Common] (Warden) says, "I have no orders to give weapons to anyone."

ban /when/? i'm spamming f5.
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>>163480279
There's nothing you could do mechanically that would fuck everything up.

Take it at your own pace, and remember to F1 if you get stuck.
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>>163480279
Then yeah, if you're really worried people are going to hate you avoid security, medbay, and engineering for a bit.
I think silicons(cyborgs/AI) have a time restriction? But best to avoid those two as well if not.
Nobody will really care if you fuck up as any other job, they'll usually be forgiving if you mention you're new.
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>>163480360
You can also send an active singularity on the shuttle and have it eat centcomm
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>>163480487
Admins might meme you back though so be warned
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>>163480279
Medical roles are easy but can get quite frantic in higher pop rounds. Just read the wiki and you'll be fine.
Service jobs (botanist, chef, barkeep) are a great way to grasp mechanics.
>>163480326
If I get to create next thread I'm using this.
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>>163480360
>>163480487
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>>163479943
I started off as a borer, you can learn all the chems too from the wiki as you go.
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>>163479663
>all-hands-on-deck scenario
>decide to feign ignorance and be a stickler
THE ETERNAL WARDEN
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>>163480659
>all-hands-on-deck scenario
And you attack security for guns you're not allowed to have?
Nice.
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>>163480565
The propulsions are purely decorative, and have nothing to do with how any shuttles move
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START A NEW ROUND ALREADY HOLY SHIT
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>the ''''''combat''''' borg doesnt even have a grenade launcher and gathling laser.
Expected so mutch and got so little.
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>>163479943
Play cargo tech and learn the ropes, make sure to let people know you're new and use LOOC (local OOC) to ask about things like "which key do i press to do thing". Never talk about out-of-character things in character, and dont talk about in character things outside of the game or in OOC until end of game map voting has begun.

Before you even press spectate though, READ THE RULES PERIOD

Then READ AGAIN
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If I we're IAA right now:

Warden gaurds the guns. If it's blob the HoS, HoP, or Captain is supposed to give orders to release the guns. If he got no orders then he's supposed to arrest unless they're resisting with lethal force. Unless there is no heads. Then he can execute at will anyone who he deems a threat to the station.
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>>163480718
>Hoarding guns
>During blob

I bet you make people fill out paperwork for borrowing soap from the janitor.

Jobban.
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>>163480718
You're a retard dude.
>>
Blowing up in telecomms wasn't as good as I imagined it to be.
Probably should just blow up in cargo to deny the crew.
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>No sec bans
>Not even a day normal ban

Im posting something terrible now so everyone else feels bad.
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>>163480978
stop
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>>163480978
hot desu mate
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>>163480865
>Sending new players to cargo
>Hey can I get a metal crate?
>Hey come back!
>Approve my crate come on man!
>Dude what are you doing
>LOLOLLOL I HACKED THE AUTOLATHE LOLOL
>Can you send me my crate?
>Cargo tech call shuttle
>K
>Wait! You didnt approve my crate!
>Cargo Tech runs away
>Constant bell ringing
>5 minutes later
>My crate man?
>Oh yah let me do that
>Approved!
>Thanks! send it to Engineering!
>ok!
>10 minutes later
>Wheres my crate?
>I sent it in the disposals
>Botany: Why the fuck did I get an antimatter crate
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>>163480897
I'm glad you we'ren't IAA.

Code red shits fucked blobs eating everything give out guns.

>>163480978
Is that real.
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>>163480978
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>>163480853
its balanced out by the fact a borg can easily absorb upwards of 300 points of damage before clonking and isnt stopped by zas, tazers, pain, or bleeding and the weapons designed to fight cyborgs are completely trash
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>>163480978
It's almost like security's actions were justified!

Do you regret attacking them now?
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>>163480853
>>163479627
>new shitters jump on the chance to be a combat borg
>dissappointed when they don't have the armament of a marauder
>doesn't know to plasma cutter the blob between laser volleys so it can charge itself
Kill yourselves.
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>>163481119
120 or 180 points. Rather more than carbons but 300 "easily", nah.
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>>163481074
if it were code red then there were heads. And warden should never execute without their approval, unless they had reflective armor or some extenuating circumstance. Did the heads give the order to release the guns?
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>>163480718
I wasn't playing that round but you need to have a character-based ethic when you play security.
There are rules but there are also times where you need to bend them for the benefit of the players you're trying to protect. I'm sorry that they decided to kick your door down but it could have been avoided.
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>>163480978
Hello, can you delete this?
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>>163481218
Any form of melee is suicide versus a blob, I regularly instruct my borgs DO NOT MELEE IT NIGGERS
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>Build new computer
>First time I've ever had a computer that can run games past 2005
>Just play spess all day

why
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Everyone in security got various warnings and they're the kind that I don't immediately forget.

They were so focused on their specific job that they completely ignored what the actual problem and threat was. This was stupid.

However banning them and keeping them from learning to be more level headed players will not bring you back your lost round.

They fucked up. They won't fuck up again. Or you won't have anything to complain about when you check the ban page.

ON THE OTHER HAND

Do not attack security if you do not want them to attack you. I feel this is a fairly straightforward concept and although I appreciate that you are disappointed I chose to ban no one, we should all acknowledge that shooting at security with their own guns is a very bad method of diplomatically resolving your disagreement over SOP.
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>>163481398
Because we're the best.
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>>163481218
>he doesnt know the blob attacks you and zaps your shit fast as fuck if you stand next to it
wew so mutch for the old meme :^)
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>>163481446
dumb adminposter
they should've been jobbanned, but ok
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>>163481372
>>163481497
>he hasn't held back a player controlled blob with a welder
Holy shit, at least don't play borg until you're more than babby tier robust.
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>>163481446
>Do not attack security if you do not want them to attack you. I feel this is a fairly straightforward concept

You must be new here
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>>163481446
Why do you fuckheads refuse to EVER hand out temporary job bans? What the fuck dude.
What's the point of having a million fucking barely-active shithead admins that hate the game if they're never going to fucking do anything productive?
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>>163481605
This only works when all the weapon wielders congregate in one location so the blob is too distracted to deal with the welders in other locations

A blob can easily overcome 2 or 3 welders and slap their shit
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>>163481767
We've handed out several today and a dozen in the last week.
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>>163481767
Temporary job bans would make it seem like only sec was in the wrong that round
>>
Didn't play that round but did anyone actually try calmly explaining to sec that there was a blob and they needed weapons?
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>>163482210
>calmly explain your actions
but then how do I attempt to get my drama valids?
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>>163481446
I SLIPPED HIM AND HE SHOT ME REPEATEDLY.
>>163482210
We did many times.
>>
If someone were working on a log search engine, what would you want to be searchable?
Chat messages (ahelp, OOC, IC, Deadsay, etc.) are a given, but what about other things?
Job assignments?
Attacks?
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>>163482492
Latejoins, showing only logs from specific players (for checking metagay), showing everytime two players interacted
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>>163482447
Ban request it you won't
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I've read the guide he linked, and the point they're making is that
>Law 1 will be your best ally in many cases to rule out stupid Law 2 orders, but don't push it too far. Notably, potential harm is not valid. You can't decide something based on the fact that somewhere in the near future, not doing so may cause harm.
Which is great, but I'd argue it was less potential harm and more guaranteed harm in my circumstance. At the time of me ignoring his initial request, the HoS was on his way to security and there were several circumspect people loitering around and following him. I denied it with the reason at the top spoken verbally the second time I was asked to, and this was in the security lobby. But I'd argue that you could even disregard this shit, because that line in the guide is immediately followed by
>For instance, if a Traitor emags into the Chief Engineer's Office to steal the RCD, you cannot bolt him in. He has not committed harm, he has no obvious harm-causing motive and the RCD isn't harmful. Bolting him in will not prevent direct harm, that's it.
Which is to say this train of thought is there to discourage powergaming and valid hunting in general. Which in turn means you should really be asking the question, "Were they being a cheeky powergaming cunt when they pulled a law 1?".

No I wasn't so fuck off you niggers and don't ruin muh immulshions by responding to shitty ahelps or I will forcibly erp you in dorms. Yeah you ruined my round and I moped around for the rest of it and I'm a big upset baby about it so what but I'm still saying you're wrong and I'm right so suck my ass

This wasn't the blob round
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>>163482447
Don't start a fight with security after they had just been shot at by another person, one you had given all access.

Comms were down. This was a confusing, stupid situation and both sides played their parts in being as violent and impressively aggressive as they could.
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>>163482857
>Asimovtism

Don't play borg.
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>>163482657
I should probably mention that the logs will only be assimilated the following day to avoid enabling
m e t a s h i t t e r s
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>>163482857
Unless the people were waving weapons and screaming for the HoS' blood, there was no concrete evidence they were going to harm him.
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>>163482857
You refused to follow a valid law 2 order and stun someone because in some unseen future they may be harmed because of it.

I don't know what else to tell you other than you had 4 admins telling you no.

Asimov sucks if you don't like following orders you don't like.

I don't have to suck your ass. You have to accept that unless you have an actual, demonstrable, probable reason why not following an order will lead to harm then you have to do it.

I sympathize that it sucks ass to do and really don't like playing borg because of it. But we survive.
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>>163483475
Logs are updated after each round. As soon as the lobby is up, you can peek.
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Rin ban when?
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>>163483771
Didnt know that, but unless Pomf decides to provide some round-end alert, it would still be really REALLY inaccurate to refresh it on a timer.
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>>163481689
Nigga, I hope you are having a giggle.
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>>163484301
There's a bot in the coder discord that notifies people when the round ends.
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>>163482492
I'd like the HTML to be formatted so that deadsay messages are in purple, radio messages are in green, and all ADMIN: messages are in red.
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>>163484539
It could use a tree topper.
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>>163484748
There's going to be special styling depending on the message type, but I make no guarantees that it will match that.

Plus, it doesn't look like you can determine whether or not a message reached a radio from the logs.
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[07:22:16]ADMIN: PRAYER: El Whoop/(Bill Moley) at <A HREF='?_src_=holder;adminplayerobservecoodjump=1;X=291;Y=259;Z=1'>Chapel Office - 291,259,1</a>: Ayyy, adminbus, where you at?
[07:23:13]ADMIN: PRAYER: El Whoop/(Bill Moley) at <A HREF='?_src_=holder;adminplayerobservecoodjump=1;X=291;Y=258;Z=1'>Chapel Office - 291,258,1</a>: I've been having some genius ideas for a universe cascade shift
[07:24:08]ADMIN: PRAYER: El Whoop/(Bill Moley) at <A HREF='?_src_=holder;adminplayerobservecoodjump=1;X=291;Y=258;Z=1'>Chapel Office - 291,258,1</a>: Weed starts growing around the station, everywhere, people smoke it, then an alien battlepod lands in the bridge, and it contains a full supermatter shard
[07:24:11]ADMIN: PRAYER: El Whoop/(Bill Moley) at <A HREF='?_src_=holder;adminplayerobservecoodjump=1;X=291;Y=258;Z=1'>Chapel Office - 291,258,1</a>: How is that?
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>>163486053
I could code those, but there's no good way to identify the top of a tree with code, and I'm not making unique sprites for every tree, so the easiest way to do it would be to make the tree topper an ornament.
But of course that would let people put the tree topper anywhere on the tree and not just the top.

Would that still be okay?
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>>163486523
this guy is the greatest shitposter. we dont deserve him
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grid is free on humble bundle
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>>163484018
P I N T H E R I N
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>>163486986
https://www.humblebundle.com/store/grid-free-game
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>>163482857
>>163483714
tl;dr: he does not how to play silicon and refuses to learn, and admins won't do anything about it.

I find it extremely irritating because sometimes I play heads and I KNOW what is to have people abusing ASIMOV, playing it against you.

Actually, I am fucking stupid for writing the first sentence. There are no stupid silicons, 99% of them are powergamers who, guaranteed, will abuse asimov so they can validhunt and overpower everything they want. It is exactly the opposite of what I initially stated, the cyborgs come up with shit excuses so they, at the end, do whatever they want.

Like in this case. 3-4 admins telling him NO and he just ignores them. HOS was not valid so the guy decided to ignore me &go hunt for the real validz.

This is your typical security borg.
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>>163486950
[05:53:52]ADMIN: PRAYER: El Whoop/(Will Johnson) at <A HREF='?_src_=holder;adminplayerobservecoodjump=1;X=253;Y=192;Z=1'>Security Office - 253,192,1</a>: God ofsay I'm innocent, you idiot
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>>163487531
>HOS was not valid so the guy decided to ignore me &go hunt for the real validz
I haven't valid hunted or actively bothered stopping antags in a year. Being a security borg because security was light that round was a mistake, though. I didn't want to be a shitter and tase the hos, so I used law 1 to not be a shitter and tase the hos. It's good to know the guy who was being a asshat and giving me that order was an actual asshat though.
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>>163486630
Can't it be done maniquenn style where you apply stuff to it and it positions them to areas on it automatically? I'm not a coder, I was just giving feedback, the tree sprite itself looks good.
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>>163488058
>where you apply stuff to it and it positions them to areas on it automatically?
Mannequins can do it because mannequin code can be certain where all the mannequin's limbs are.
There are like twenty different shapes and sizes of trees and potted plants, which would all need their own offsets, plus more trees are almost certainly going to be added in the future.
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>>163488031
You were an asimov borg, there's no such "security" role borg. You know this but you are a shitter who ignores its lawset to do whatever he wants.

Arrests &asimov borgs equal easy mayhem, you play this game 1 month and you understand this.
Like, what the fuck is the argument "there was no security so I wanted to play security...as a cyborg!".
You deserve a job ban.
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>>163488031
>I didn't want to be a shitter and tase the hos,
Why do you play borg if you don't like being forced to do stuff? All borgs start with a lawset which basically is follow whatever humans tell you and don't hurt them, and you decide to play borg and then just ignore a law two order because law one, even after you were told by admins that that does not work.
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>>163479943
You won't blow accidentally up the station as a cargo tech, chef, bartender, clown, mime, and janitor and good for getting your sea legs; you'll still mess up, but the consequences will be negligible. Botanist can accidentally fuck up the station, but if you stick to basic plants out of your vending machine then you won't; plus growing rice, bananas, plastellum mushrooms, and poppies really helps the station.

>>163480279
>just sort of got stuck dealing with some lockers or something before a janitor stabbed me
He was probably the antagonist. People die in this game, it doesn't necessarily mean you did anything wrong.
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>>163488031
Tazing someone doesn't count as harm.
If you get told to shock someone, you shock them, if you get told to beat someone however that's a different thing
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>>163488031
Excepting December, you haven't PLAYED in a year.
Search "ACCESS: IsBanned: Checking ys," (0 hits in 0 files)
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>>163488647
>"there was no security so I wanted to play security...as a cyborg!
That's what I do. If there's no medbay, I'm a medbot. If there's roboticists and no miners, I go jerk off on the mining colony. If there's only a HoS and one other sec and every other role is mostly rounded out, I decide to play as a security borg. I'd say most people who play borgs don't know what module they're going into until after the round has started.

Have you ever actually played a borg?
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>>163489094
I stopped playing Ys for a long time because the ze meme was too much for even me
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https://github.com/d3athrow/vgstation13/pull/13019
Post thoughts.
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>>163489214
Who then?
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>>163488892
I was performing mental gymnastics to imply someone in the immediate vicinity would harm him while he was down if I stunned and cuffed him. Which I still think is a valid enough reason to have ignored law 2.
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how do I make maxcap bombs? I've tried 6 transfer valves on hippie and also tried swallowing 450u blackpowder and then drinking napalm before setting myself on fire and it did about the same kind of hole but it's not that fantastic. I saw someone blow up the whole shuttle plus escape with half of the chapel gone. How do I get to this level?
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>>163489412
This is the wrong place to ask, our server's bombcode is likely different from Hippie's.
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>>163482857
Is "harm" confined to actions that cause hitpoint loss or something? Because tasing causes extreme pain to the victim and is known to cause heart attacks and other serious injuries. Or would this guy have been fine if he refused because tasing is harmful?
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>>163489412
>hippie
out
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>>163489381
Just think of any no name account that was the polar opposite of the attention whore I used to act like and still am internally.
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>>163489475
I don't like the other map layouts you guys have on vgstation. Lots of fun and well made mechanics but it's not the same without muh comfy hippie layout.
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>>163489384
Potential harm is fucking stupid and you're retarded if you buy into it, unless someone has specifically threaten to fuck him up while he's down then you shock the poor bastard and THEN you react if someone beats him.
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>>163489104
You know what dude? The four admins and the multiple people here who are telling you NO are obviously wrong. YOU are right.
You make a wonderful borg player, keep the good work up!
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holy shit rev is so boring please end this
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>>163489104
>Have you ever actually played a borg?
yes

nobody complained about me

crazy, how did I manage that?
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>>163489729
I C K O C K
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it's revs
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>>163489384
You're awful. The posts replying to you have explained it better but if you have to search for loopholes to do shit against your laws, you're a piece of shit and need to rethink how you play borg.
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It's actually rev
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>>163490006
t. changling.
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>>163489893
Sad fact: many, many silicons are just like him.
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>>163490091
why do you think people hate silicons?
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>>163490006
But what if it's >EXTENDED
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>>163490091
I try to follow my laws to the letter.
The way I know I'm doing it right is when people complain about me IC instead of OOC.
A borg who follows Asimov to letter is relentlessly annoying but not outright aggravating.
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>>163490241
Borg is fun because you're commanded mostly by other players and your laws. It can be a wild ride because you're not really in control of some things, you're just along to do whatever comes up.
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>>163489893
>but if you have to search for loopholes
I know even I said I was performing mental gymnastics but I meant this mostly in jest. I didn't deliberate on my decision, it happened in the span of seconds and I legitimately thought physical harm, in the form of getting punched and toolboxed, would come to the HoS if I tased then and there. You can call me retarded if you've seen the logs and think I'm stupid for actually believing that but
>you're a piece of shit
I didn't do it out of maliciousness.
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>>163490360
You're shit for trying to justify it. Just say you made a minor mistake and absolutely nobody will fault you for it. But don't misunderstand probable vs potential ham, because that will get EVERYONE against you.
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>>163490360
>physical harm, in the form of getting punched and toolboxed, would come to the HoS if I tased then and there
and you would be then and there to stop this harm IF it were to happen
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>>163490351
>Borg why'd you let the clown in security EVA?
>Why did you let the assistant you cuffed go?
>borg why did you take the bartender to perma then immediately let him out?
>borg why are you ignoring the grey over there who's been asking for help?

Beep boop muh laws Carbon
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>>163490648
These things only become a problem because people don't understand laws, captains who fail to set the AI to the right lawset before murdering X human antags deserves to be tased.
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>>163490628
So taze him then stand guard to make sure nothing bad happens.
I'm not sure you quite understand that silicon characters don't run on the same logic that humans do.
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>>163490895
Yes, exactly.
A human might not be inclined to prevent harm to the HoS.
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>>163490475
I can't admit I made a minor mistake when I would just make the same exact choice I did if the same exact shit were to occur. I can't portray the position of the greyshitters without screenshot and I didn't take screenshots of it because why would I have at the time.
>>163490628
But then I would've broken law 1, even if just for a few moments while they smack his face in until I tase them and drag him away. If someone asks me to shock all the hallway doors, I don't do it, or do I? It's not me shocking them into crit, anyway.
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>>163490809
That's why sticking to your laws like you should is so fun.
You're an incredibly useful asset to the station but you do not have to give a flying fuck about the well being of the crew until they are in mortal danger and at no point do you ever have their best interests at heart. The only thing that matters are the laws.
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>>163491050
>But then I would've broken law 1
No you wouldn't have. Just because harm happens doesn't mean you're breaking law 1. The fact that it POTENTIALLY could have happened does not exempt you from law 2. If they started beating on him, you save him, therefore fulfilling law 1.
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>>163491050
>equates potential harm to shocking doors
I don't even have the energy to respond to this bullshit. Goodnight.
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>>163491086
Ion laws are the best, too, because they INSTANTLY give you a gimmick that you NEED to fulfill. It could be almost anything, too, and you're never punishable for it even if it involves sawing off legs or breaching areas.
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>>163491247
>get ion law to relocate everyone to the theater and scream incoherently whenever your name is mentioned
God damn was that the funniest 5 minutes of AI
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>>163491050
You don't shock doors since the only outcome if someone touched the door is someone getting shocked, there is no ambiguity about that.
It's the same reason you can't be told to hand out weapons as the borg since they are a inherently harmful item, the outcome of someone using that item is harm and nothing but harm, unlike a toolbox which while incredibly robust is primarily used to hold tools.
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>>163491179
A single robust grey with a toolbox is actually far more threatening assuredly deadly then an electrified door.

A doors not gonna chase me and keep trying to cave my face in after it's shocked me once.
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>>163491370
>It's the same reason you can't be told to hand out weapons as the borg since they are a inherently harmful item
But what if we are using them to kill birb
Or bleb
Or vamp
or ling
or simple_animal adminbus shittery
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>>163479663
>not throwing open the doors to arm up and fight the blob

Shit warden, possibly shit hos.
I would of executed that warden myself if I were an officer that round.
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>>163491149
Then I need to always let the clown into the armory to confiscate every lasergun when he orders, because how can I know what he really wants to do with it? Maybe he just wants to hide them in inconspicuous locations around the station, or maybe he just wants to stick his skittle dick into one and pull the trigger on himself. Isn't that still potential harm, and I should just obey him?
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>>163491949
Are you retarded? Do you not know what 'potential' and 'probable' mean? If so, please go to a doctor and see if you can't get hospitalized for your retardation, or perhaps travel to SS13 and get some alkysine.
Jesus fucking christ do I have to handhold you this hard?
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>>163491949
>silicon player learns about potent hams

MIGHT happen != WILL happen.
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>>163491949
Yes, the clown in the armoury is securities problem, not yours.
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How are there people arguing that tasing a guy isn't harm

Next round I'm in I'm making the borgs taze everyone constantly, no harm right?
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>>163492180
Yeah, it's not harm
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>>163492231
let me taze you in real life and then tell me tazing someone isn't harm
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>>163492051
We keep jerking off about these words, do we actually know what they mean? Do they have some unique connotation when used in reference to ss13? I mean this seriously, is there something I'm crucial I'm missing here in regards to they dictionary definitions? Because I'm not a thesaurus but I'm pretty confident in what they mean.
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>>163492180
>>163492283
Does your health drop from it? Will your health drop from it eventually and directly because of it? If not to both of those, it's not harm. Make the tazer do 1 burn damage to wherever it hits, THEN it would be harm.
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>>163491949
Asimov don't care about deliberate self inflicted injuries.
Clearly you've never read the silicon rules or you'd know this.
And yes you will let the clown into the armory to collect what he wants, but there is nothing stopping you from telling sec and the AI what is going on.
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>>163492283
This isn't real life
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>>163492283
>real life == video game
Tasing isn't harm in SS13 because it doesn't cause any damage to the player.
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>>163492345
I was implying it's okay if he sticks his skittle dick in it and pull the trigger.
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>>163492327
Yes, we do know what they mean.
POTENTIAL = MIGHT.
PROBABLE = LIKELY WILL.
POTENTIAL =~ ABOVE 15%.
PROBABLE =~ ABOVE 85%.
There are some estimates to go by. The values change depending on who you ask. You NEED to do it on a case-by-case basis. You NEED to consider all the factors when deciding if it's just potential or actually probable.
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Ok this is unrelated to anything but what is that site that advertises on 4chan sometimes. It sells anime stuff
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>>163492545
j-list, or h-list but their shit is all overpriced
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>>163492545
J-List? The site that advertises onaholes on blue boards?
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>>163492585
Any site that isn't overpriced?
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>>163492545
Most of the time its J list
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>>163492327
Here's an example.
You've been told to stun the HoS, no one in the immediate area is armed and no one has made any threats to him.
There is the potential for harm, you stun him anyway since you don't run on potentials.

You've been told to stun the HoS, the assistant nearby has a e-sword out and is crying for the HoS's blood, the HoS is currently in a mexican standoff with said crazy greyshit
There is probably harm afoot, you do not stun the HoS
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>>163492627
HOLY SHIT I'M NOT THE ONLY ONE THAT GETS THOSE ADS?!

>>163492659
Virtually every website with japanese products will be grossly overpriced. They're pretty much just glorified scalpers that us gaijin need to get filtered through.
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>>163492465
>source: my ass
Where the fuck do those percents come from.

Potential and probable are literal synonyms and have no associated rough percents with them. Is this shit fiction and only used in the context of ss13?. Are they described as meaning these things on the wiki somewhere?
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>>163492751
>not using adblock
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>>163492327
Lawyer here. "Potential" is basically synonymous with "possible;" so not 0%. "Probable" is reasonably likely; you would need to have some kind of proof to back up your assertion for it to be probable, but on the scale of burdens of proof "probable" is below "more likely than not," so you don't need 50% likelihood plus a feather to get a warrant.

The real answer for the purposes of our imaginary spacestation is whatever the admins say.
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>>163492832
Lawyer here. Fuck you.
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>>163492825
>Not being rich

>>163492465
No one in the world but you understands probable to require anywhere near 85%.
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>>163492825
I have two different adblockers and it somehow weasels its way through them. It's those ads and the ones on Gelbooru that manage to leak through.
Not that I give a yank. I'm a poor bastard and I like both of those sites, so I'll take some "literally why" Ads in exchange
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Give MOMMI RCD, laying rods and floor plates is slow as shit after a bombing
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>>163492982
I bet you just bought that pass.
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>>163492718
What about

You've been told to stun the HoS, the person whom asked you and two others in the immediate area are looking to kick his skull as well as an unarmed greyshit is capable of.
It's a coinflip as to whether or not he gets his skull bashed in, ignore order due to law confliction.
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>>163492813
Potential and probable are literally not synonyms. They might be called synonyms by Google or whatever, but they absolutely have different meanings and uses.
YES, the percentages came from my ass, because there is no definition that includes percentages. I'm just fucking pointing out how different the standards are. Standards for 'probable' are VERY high. Standards for 'potential' are much lower.
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>>163493041
If there's clear and distinct evidence that the greys want to cave his skull in, Law one. If not, it falls under potential harm. Stun the HoS. It's not hard to understand.
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>>163493060
Potential and probable are literal synonyms, but I'll agree with you that probable is a stronger word than potential. But the thing is, this is never referenced fucking anywhere ever, Ingame or in the wiki.
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Tasing should have a slim chance (1/1000) to cause cardiac arrest.
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>>163493193
>A synonym is a word or phrase that means exactly or nearly the same as another word or phrase in the same language. Words that are synonyms are said to be synonymous, and the state of being a synonym is called synonymy.
>"lol they're synonyms but one is stronger than the other"
Alkysine for anon, please.
Yes it is referenced on the wiki, and the admins pointed it out for you ingame. Learn, don't complain. Please.
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>>163493193
Read the fucking wiki fagot
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Which size topper is the best?
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>>163493029
>doesn't use construction mode
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>>163493271
That is retarded and will cause borgs to fuck with security more than they already do
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>>163493294
You can't learn if you don't ask questions.
>nearly
You'd be actually retarded to say they arn't synonyms after you just looked up their definitions.
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>>163493373
Left one. Right side is a tad too small, so it blends in and looks goofy
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>>163493373
The one on the left
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>>163493372
>>163493193
>>163493060

>caring about harm when humans are not even real.lmao
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>>163493420
probable
>likely to be the case or to happen.
potential
>having or showing the capacity to become or develop into something in the future.
Not synonyms.
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>>163493039
Yes. Specifically so that I could make that post.

>>163493060
>It's possible that you could stop sucking cocks
>You could potentially stop sucking cocks
Both sentences require only the slightest, most remote possibility of you stopping to be true. In the context of law 1 trumping law 2 any distinction between the two are meaningless because you need a very high likelihood/imminence before you can call law 1.
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>>163493558
You are misconstruing words so fucking hard with that example, AND you used 'possible' instead of 'probable'. Let me redo it for you, dipshit.
>It's probable that you stop sucking cocks.
>Potentially, you'll stop sucking cocks.
Completely, COMPLETELY different meaning.
Neck yourself, this is the most puke-worthy argument I've had to have with somebody over 4chan in a long time.
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>three hour round
>brig bombed, bridge and science plasmaed half an on hour in
>medbay doesn't know how to clone people
>rev

That round went from bed, to awful, to beyond awful and wrapped around back to hilarious in how bad it was.
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I can't believe this actually got to 90 kPa before people started breaking things.

WE BUILD
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How did you folks like my bard gimmick?
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>>163493541
>on that same google search
>synonyms: probable
>Not synonyms
You are pulling my chain
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>>163493859
>guy with bomb comes in
>he complains
>his story makes sense
>let him go with bomb so he can test it
>brig bombed
>spend rest of round suffering
I can't win.
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>>163493876
Good music, gave your horn to the clown and he loved it.
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>>163450386
>HOS and some random come barging into Cargo
>Instantly taze and cuff me
>Steal my Id, and strip my headset
>Order things with my ID
>Shoot open a window and ZAS the room
>They ordered guns and loyalty implants
>uhhh
>Get loyalty implanted
>Cuffs get taken off
>They still have my Id and havent explained anything
>Taze the HOS
>Try running away, but cant open the doors with no id
>Get shot over and over
>Get welderbombed by the HOS

P..p..please explain whats going on n.n.n.n.ext time so I don't think the worst of yo..y.youu ;-;


Also:

>The AI can access Cameras on the cargo shuttle
>The AI can use machines on the cargo shuttle
>The AI can use a teleporter on the cargo shuttle.

HMMMM
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>do genetics for the first time
>get another geneticist
>we just ignore all the chaos and hunt for powers.
>every time I go out of the genetics lab to get some anti tox or food all I do is slip over a pile of bodies, blood and puke.
I was so close to saving you.
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>>163493904
I just fucking said that Google isn't correct there. Google lists most words that are SIMILAR as SYNONYMS. They don't have the exact same meaning.
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>Final Head Rev
>Bro helps me find hos
>Murder HoS
>As HoS goes into crit a portal appears on me and I end up stepping through
>Teleported to Research Station
>Heads Win
>Sad
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>>163493928
I told you he was telebombing mate.
>>163494017
You deserve it.
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>>163493795
>COMPLETELY different meaning
>swapped one word crucial word and the intent and meaning behind the sentence are retained

Did you skip grade school
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>revs aren't immeadiately attacking
>station is bombed out and destroyed
>all shuttle calls are recalled
>goes on for 20 minutes
>connection to centcomm lost
>more times goes by
>try and call the shuttle again
>recalled
>finally realize it's revs
>tell command why the shuttle is getting recalled
>looc "don't OOC in IC like that"
Honestly what is the in game reasoning as to why the shuttle is auto recalled during rev rounds. I understand from a gameplay perspective but how am I supposed to explain what is happening without OOC in IC?
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>>163494017
>portal appears on me and I end up stepping through
STOP THIS, PEOPLE NEED TO STOP THIS REEEEEEEE
>teleport plasma on to the bridge because I know heads are there
>curious revs tailgate me and jump in the teleporter without asking
>cooked revs
>heads didn't even die
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>>163493998
http://www.thesaurus.com/browse/potential
please
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>>163494084
The intent and meaning behind the sentences is not retained.
>>It's probable that you stop sucking cocks.
>In the future, it's likely that the person will stop sucking cocks.
>>Potentially, you'll stop sucking cocks.
>There's a potential chance for the cocksucking to stop, but only a chance.
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>>163493953
After I uncuffed you I thanked your for your patience. Then you started attacking. Tasing the only living head during revs. From our perspective the loyalty implant didn't take.
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>>163493998
Actually, are you baiting me here? Did you know similar and synonyms are synonyms, and if you had to give a one word definition of synonyms, similar would be spot on?
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>>163494187
Look at the definitions. Be amazed at how they have different definitions.
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>>163494198
>>Potentially, you'll stop sucking cocks
>In the future, it's likely that the person will stop sucking cocks.
Wow it's almost like they are actually synonyms but that would just be too coincidental
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>>163494398
Potential is >50%, potential is >0%.

In spess the difference is that potential is backed by prior bad acts.
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>>163494304
similar
>resembling without being identical.
synonym
>a word or phrase that means exactly or nearly the same as another word or phrase in the same language, for example shut is a synonym of close.
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>>163494445
Whoops my B, replace the first potential with probable.
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>>163494321
Words have different definitions.

Having different definitions doesn't bar words from being described as synonyms. The majority of synonyms a word has will have definitions that are worded differently to an extreme degree. Sometimes their definitions will be identical. Words can have multiple differently worded definitions, but still mean the same thing despite the rewording. Sometimes, some synonyms for a word are better than others. But they're still synonyms.

The english language isn't going to take it in the ass for a shitty spess game, my dude. Probable and potential are synonyms.
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If you're arguing the definitions and synonyms and shit you have the wrong mindset to play a silicon.
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Has the discussion really devolved this far? You all know exactly what potent ham and probably ham is.
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>>163494736
synonym
>a word or phrase that means exactly or nearly the same as another word or phrase in the same language, for example shut is a synonym of close.
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>>163493795
You're talking to two different people dipshit. Look at the post I replied to.
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Alright, I'm done with this argument. I'm doing so many gymnastics to convey the simplest thing that everyone agrees with: potential ham =/= probable ham. I'm convinced you're baiting me at this point and I'm just gonna fuck off now, because it's getting irritating.
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>>163493372
It's on the AI's page and only referenced once. How can we swing it around like it's a crucial part of being a non-carbon, almost as important as your default laws IC, when it's tucked away like this
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HoS can't hand out demotions can they? That's HoPs thing
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>>163495254
If there is no HoP, demotions are performed by the captain.
If there is no HoP and no captain, the HoS is the acting captain, and so may hand out demotions.
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>>163494283
Yah once I found out with revs I was fine with it. What was happening was never explained to me.
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>>163494917
Your quote validates what I'm saying, is that the point you're trying to get across? Because probably and potential abide by that quote. They mean
>exactly or nearly the same as another word or phrase in the same language
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>>163495247
>It's on the most important silicons page in bold text, how could people possibly know about this with it so hidden away?
>>
>in hallway with some greyshits around
>"Borg, stun the HoS"
Not harm.
Yes, one of them COULD pull an esword and slice his head off, but it's your job to stop that. Even if they do slice his head off and you're somehow not dead (probably should be silicon banned if you didn't put any effort into stopping them), you had no way of knowing that one of the greyshits would harm the guy.

>gunfight is going on
>"Borg, stun the HoS"
Harm will be caused directly due to that.
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>>163494145
Come up with something other than "the roundtype is revs". Even something like "Centcomm doesn't want the revolution spreading to them" would work better than OOC in ICing.
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>>163495602
>Centcomm doesn't want the revolution spreading to them
That's cool and all except that Cent doesn't mention there's revs aboard. The problem is that that game mode mechanic is utterly horrible and meta; the blame doesn't rest with the person calling it out.
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>>163495949
Considering the focus of the roundtype: Revs vs. Heads, it makes sense from a design perspective. Therefore, I don't think it should be removed. Then how should it be reworked to not be meta?
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>>163496127
After a set amount of recalls, conversions, or around an hour there should be a centcomm announcement saying that subversive elements have been detected on the station
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>>163496127
Nuke ops don't get autorecall. Lingadings don't get it. Cult doesn't get it. If revs can't manage a recall, well that's tough fucking luck.
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>>163496218
>Hey, we tried calling the shuttle and it got recalled, let's keep calling it and see if there's revs.
>No, we don't call the shuttle until an hour in case there's revs.

The second option is plausible because it removes an issue with the mode: Sec and the heads don't know about the revs until they've overran the station.
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>>163496313
>vamps so unloved that they don't even get mentioned
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>>163496337
>Hey, we tried calling the shuttle and it got recalled, let's keep calling it and see if there's revs.

If the station is fucked enough to warrant a call, and it gets recalled, they're going to keep trying to call the shuttle no matter what round type it is. That's also meta and admins are there to deal with it
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>>163496446
>The admins are here to deal with it.

As a former admin, I can say that things don't always work that way. You can't prove there's intent to discover the roundtype unless it's mentioned, and people can deny it easily. You can't ban over a suspicion that someone is using meta.

Furthermore, remember that there's not always admins, and the lengths that people will go to to meta can get pretty crazy.
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>>163495597
You're right. But I think I have now come to the conclusion it should be okay for borgs to perform mental gymnastics, that are still arguably within the bounds of their laws, without admin intervention. As long as it's not in the pursuit of powergaming and validhunting. But if those are the fucking rules I'll guess I'll just suck it the fuck up from now on but it's still super gay.
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>>163496613
Borgs are not a traditional role.
You will have to do things you know OOC will lead to shit being fucked. If you can't deal with that fact, stop playing borg.
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>get banned for fucking up
>appeal on the forums
>get ban lifted in under an hour with a teamantag ban instead
honestly that feels like a reward
thanks admins
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>>163497510
The ban was probably just to get you to come to the forums and explain
>>
>>163497510
>>163497963
What he said, I only needed your side of the story which is why I added that ban.
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>>163498062
Ban me so we can talk
you seem cute~
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Mods banned me for talking about ponies in chat.....
He underestimates my power.....
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sup guys

where my Acks at
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>>163498445
In perma since I got told to throw you in there and I am obligated not to listen to you.
>>
https://github.com/tgstation/tgstation/pull/20488

When are we getting this?
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>>163498508
I think you got the wrong Ack, friendo
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>>163498445
hello brother
i too enjoy not requiring oxygen or eye protection
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>>163498605
What situation would you be in where there's no oxygen, but there's also no negative pressure to fuck you in the ass with brute damage?
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>>163498548
>tg casualizing fucking conversation
what
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>>163498445
Are you fucking retarded? That's an awful cryomix and you should be banned from Medbay.
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>>163498596
Sorry, you all look the same to me.
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>>163498548
You can't make this shit up
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>>163498730
It's fine.
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>>163498685
being in a space suit without an oxygen tank
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>>163498445
haha yeah that was a great round, were you the janiborg?
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>>163498894
When would you be in a space suit without an oxygen tank? There are oxygen tanks everywhere that there are space suits.
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>>163498959
I'm afraid not
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How do you fart?
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>>163499098
say *fart
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>>163498445
Why don't mappers put more of them in other places, though? Cargo should have ways to get things imported.
>>
>>163498981
it's nice to not use a slot on it/worry about it ever running out
>>
>>163498829
No it's not
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>>163498548
>merged
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Kill/death ratio tracking and listed publicly by OOC name when??
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>>163498696
>>163498791
>>163500018

Spoiler alert: not a soul uses this, at least not on TG prime
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>>163500508
the fact that it exists and got merged tells lots about tg. Mostly about how it's full of fucking babies who want to streamline everything.
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>>163500508
ok thanks tg dev where would we be without you well lemme tell you dont worry you dont gotta respond me shitposter will do that for you well the answer is we'd all be dead y'know why yeah you know why good on you and may god bless your penis to reach new heights tomorrow mashallah
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>>163500508
>TG prime
I'm pretty sure most of TG is beta.
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>>163500649
Well yeah it's pretty dumb in my personal opinion, but leaving lots of options is nice for downstreams who might want to take advantage of them. Generally if a feature isn't actively shitposting into the meta people are pretty permissive about what gets merged.
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>>163450386
Does some one want to come on the test server, and test something with me?
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>>163501787
What are you after? I'm not too busy, so I can.
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>>163501853
Getting a carbon to Centcomm using the supply shuttle. I think i figured out a way.
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>>163501929
Be right there, assuming I can connect.
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>>163501929
Anon you realize once you get to centcomm you can't leave the cargo shuttle, its walled off by unbreakable walls, and the pipe glitch doesn't work anymore
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>>163502032
What if the AI just opens the blast doors?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nOr0na6mKJQ
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>>163502626
What blast doors? The entire cargo shuttle area is surrounded by riveted walls
>>
>clown and HoS look for a non existing cult
>>
Why did /tg/ change to TEEGEE?
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>>163502882
I got shot four times to get that damn cart and didnt eeven get a discount!
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>>163502996
You'll get your discount from my cold, dead hands.
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>>163502976
I realized after a while, I just wanted to stay along for the ride.
>>
>Spend most of the round dead as all fuck after stepping into space behind the mining shuttle as it blasts me with jet flames on the way out
> left hobbling about and with head pains after cloning, becomes faster to ride the ripley than to walk
>end up being the last one from supply alive after being the first dead, chill with other mechguys in the escape
not a bad round, all things considered.

still don't know how the other miner's corpse just FUCKING DISAPPEARED AFTER I FOUND IT.
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>>163502912
>>
>spacepod mechanic
>antimov in backpack
>energy shield
>jacket's gear
>fireaxe
>energy gun
>oxygen jetpack
>syndicate space suit and suspicious toolbox
>not a fucking antag
biggest cockblock I've ever experienced
>>
>>163503071
>>163502976
Who found out first, HoS or the clown?
I reckon it was the clown
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>>163503089
Pretty sure they don't actually open, and if you abuse bugs to get to centcomm and don't report them you can get banned
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>>163503170
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>>163503071
>That picture
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>>163503264
Its not a bug. Its only game mechanics.
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>>163503518
Considering they couldn't open the blast doors before and had to use a bug to get in, you will get in trouble
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>>163503071
Why are people like that allowed to exist?
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>>163503089
Thise are literally riveted walls that were poorly icon edited in the mapper to try and look like blast doors, you can easily tell because there is no floor turf under them, like there would be if it was actually a door.
>>
>>163503495
>>163503759
Look how smug it is too
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>>163452932
nega sarca was a fucking legend
to think that he still walks among us
>>
Status update on the log search engine:

Using some of the logs I already had handy (early October), it appears that a single weekend costs 920MB to store, and takes my 2012 laptop with an i7 1½ minutes to index a full day's log. It currently handles IC, OOC, PDA, Mod, Deadsay, Ahelp, Admin PMs, and job starts. (It's still missing whispers, cult chat, blob, blobtele, and anything else not mentioned.)

If that storage pattern holds during the work week, it would take 84 gigabytes to make 6 months searchable.

It would cost $30 monthly ($20 instance + $10→100GB block storage) on digitalocean.
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>>163503630
Are you an admin or a player?

I can't tell what would be worse.
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>>163500508
It's the principle of it.
>>
>>163506624
That doesn't seem worth it man

I wouldn't be upset if you didn't go through
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>>163452932
>>163506151
sarca was paid off to be some kind of emmanuel goldstein character in his time as the community was less complacent
he was likely talking to himself
>>
>>163506624
What if you offloaded it to pastebin using an elaborate mooching system like that vindows malware, or even github?
Costs fuck all then.
>>
>>163505143
>>163503630
Managed to get an AI controlled teleporter to Centcomm, but it is unable to teleport anything.

The AI can open the door to a worthless room behind the riveted walls. And thats about it aside from operating the worthless teleporter.
>>
Rin binned when?
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>>163507464
Before the years up
>>
What does it say when you use a GPS at Centcomm?
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>>163507464
*pinned
>>
is it ick ock to complain about how retarded the AI is?
>>
>>163507909
If you do it outside of the game's IC chat, yes.
>>
>>163507909
Yes. Wait for later.
>>
GOOD GAME DESIGN
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>>163507819
It says unknown.
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>>163507187
I'm still working on filtering the data, but $30 monthly doesn't seem outrageous. If I can find a way to get it down to $15 then I could really easily justify the cost.
or I could give it to the admins as-is and let them find the storage space.

>>163507354
The search index data needs to be stored on one single machine with decently fast storage. It does no good to have a search server that takes longer than downloading the relevant logs and finding the lines manually.
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>>163508508
No options for:
>Are you valid?
>I'm not Valid
>Where are the valids?
>>
Why are department heads always the worst players in their respective departments except HoS all of sec are awful. Are department heads the new shitter role?
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>>163508883
>all dialogue turns into a choice of 4 preset lines
>Are you valid?
>I'm not valid.
>I'm valid.
>Where are the valids?
>>
>>163508661
Would it help to just cut the logs off at the start of each year. A year or two of logs is still plenty of time to search for metagay
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>>163508893
With great power comes great responsibility.
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>>163508893
>EXCEPT HOS
RIN I KNOW IT'S YOU

PIN
THE
RIN
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>>163508893
Experienced players see no benefit in playing heads. You have more responsibility and are constantly a target.
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>>163508893
Pin the rin
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>>163509071
Valid
Valid
Sarcastic Valid
Not Valid(Yet)
>>
>>163508893
Fuck off Rin
>>
>>163509071
>>163509358
Spessman FO4
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>>163509310
Instead of playing head holes seasoned players will go wih:

Security = Warden
Science = Vanila Scientist / Mechanic
Medical = Vanila MD / Medical Intern
Civilian = Spare ID
Engineering = MoMMI
>>
>>163509516
Engineering is the only department seasoned players will play a head because you get the big belt and mommis are a mixed bag of first-day newbies and turboautists.

Medical the best job for veterans is geneticist because it's doctor+, get all medbay and also some basic science, bonus radio channel, and a minigame to kill time in slow moments.
>>
Getting home from work. Whats station time?
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>New players told to be Cargo Techs
>Every round start 10 people show up, and order 40-60 crates.
>Cargo Techs don't respond on the radio
>Steal things from crates before putting them on the conveyor
>Once on the conveyor they tag and send everything at once despite being told about waiting 10 seconds between departnments.
>Stream of 145.9 chat with people screaming "where are muh crates" "why is half my crate missing"
>Cargo Techs continue just feeding crates into disposals without looking
>Botanist I have your 10 seed crates here in Medbay
>Cargo Techs continue to ignore radio
>Tell them to set up telepad system, show them how it deploys
>They just throw undeployed telepads in hallways
>They steal the autolathe
>They disapear, and only come back when they need want guns.

How do you stay sane as a QM? Sure the money is nice, but with the round start madness, and borderline retarded cargotechs. I mean its pretty easy to just kill yourself 10 minutes into the round and safe yourself the headache of missing crates, shit all over the floor, and lack of dedication towards the department.
>>
Seasoned players go janitor
>>
>Walk up to machine
>Alt click or ctrl click it by habit
>Nothing happens because it has no shortcuts

What's her name, /ss13g/? For me it's the Biogenerator. You just EXPECT it to have eject and grind shortcuts.
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>>163509968
Export your cargo techs to the asteroid to become miners

Don't warn them about popped lungs
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>>163510039
Exact same thing for me.
>dump all the things in the grinder
>alt+click, vrrrrr
>okay time to go dump all these other things in the biogenerator
>alt+click
>NO VRRRR
I feel so cheated
>>
>>163509968
>the QM isn't part of the problem
>>
>>163510025
>Round start
>Rush Silicon tank, sheet of metal,, battery, and wire
>Make grenade casing, turn into electrolyzer with cable
>Put beaker of silicon into electrolyzer
>Get worthless chems in one container, get 2/3 ingredient of lube in other
>Mix 2/3 with water
>Get space lube in less than 3 minutes
>Put lube into bucket or janicart
>Use mop
>Clean the floors with lube so they are extra shiny before any one enters the halls.
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>>163509968
Teach em. You have 4 techs at max. Usually 0 or maybe 1 roundstart. If you keep your cool, you can help mold them into better players.
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>>163510194
fuck you
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>>163509784
I don't consider myself a turboautist.
I think the word autism got so overused here nobody actually knows what it stands for anymore.
>>
>>163510039
>>163510102
Alt+click and Ctrl+click behavior are some of the easiest things to add to objects.

Make the changes you want to see.
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>>163509968
>>163510150
I've seen shit QM's. Usually they just build stupid shit, and ignore the rest of the station

>Muh pretty carpets
>MUH GUNS LOL
>FUCK UR ORDERS CARGONIA STRONG, INDEPENDANT DERPARTMENT/ LOL REJECTED. GIVE ME 450 CREDITS AND I ALLOW U 2 ORDER MONKEY CRATE LOL.
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>>163510306
I love qms who fill out papers and ask for department head stamps. Saw one robotist get so mad because of it that he ended up suiciding
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>>163510449
We still waiting for economics revamp so doing papers actually mean something more than muh heavy RP.
>>
>>163510039
I always alt-click water tanks to set transfer amount. It stings me everytime
>>
>>163510449
>Haha making people jump through hoops for 15 minutes is sooo funny hahahaha
>Hhahaha the mechanic asked for sulfuric acid so I gave him 200 0.4906594u pills
>>
>>163510540
Sorry kiddo nanotrasen rules
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>>163510540
t. roboticist
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>>163510503
Do we even have time for paperwork in between rampant murderboning and validhunting?
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You're welcome, April.
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>>163510624
I'll say it again, I just get my acid from the research outpost.
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>>163510796
>being this butthurt you have to leave the station
xD
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>>163508508
doomed
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>>163510796
Dude why dont you just pick up the 200 .558484544390534u pills and put them in your backpack. its hilarious LMAO
>>
>>163510264
To be fair, MoMMI WOULD cater to an autist well.
>no interaction with people whatsoever required
>often tasked with doing tedious things like setting up engines
>freetime is spent making unnecessarily large numbers on the power console or even more tedious projects
>>
>>163510860
It's just efficient. Pick up 400u acid and all the other fun powergay chems in five minutes, lasts a good while.

Sure as shit you'll never get 40 charge out of the chemists near roundstart.
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>>163510997
>tedious things
>tedious projects
GET OUT OF MY STATION REEEEEEEEEEE
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>>163510997
It's pretty great until the designated shitter comes along with an emag when you really aren't in the mood for it.
Always more fun with a fellow crab though, even when they're new as fuck.
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>>163509153
I'm planning for a maximum of 6 months at this point.
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>>163510772
Thanks Nick, <3
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>>163511102
>Always more fun with a fellow crab though, even when they're new as fuck.
Too bad not all crabs want to hang together and do cool projects, it's a real shame
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>>163510689
No, which is exactly why it pisses off people who don't have the freedom to be useless shitstirring sacks of shit in stuff like cargo.
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>>163511194
If i see someone screwing around on the derelict i often jump in either to teach or to assist in whatever autism they're engaged in.
Sure enough it begins a mass joining and more often than not a rust is knocked together or an engine that technically defies keeper but who gives a shit because admins spawned the stuff anyway.
The cockroach engine was remarkably efficient.
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>>163511265
>cockroach engine

how

why
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>>163511194
Personally I like working alone, I get ideas while working on things but getting distracted by someone annoys me to hell.
I do help someone else if they ask.
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ORNAMENTS MERGED
TIME TO DECK THE HALLS
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post department themes
i feel like this is appropriate for sec/med in some way, although i cant put my finger on why
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bfrQ8ZutmLE
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>>163512227
They can be attached to the Christmas tree in the Bar thanks to Shadowmech88's goodcode.

Thank him when you see him for making Christmas special.
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>>163511471
I was merely the assistant but it utilises a cockroach hatchery and conveyors to disposal a cockroach every so often into the shard via disposal.
It happily shat out a consistent 3MW with zero maintainance, it needed a cooling pipe of course but it just werked.
The trick is to not put a conveyor on the egg tile itself but to catch any wandering roach. They lay eggs like fucking crazy so the supply is effectively unlimited, only takes a single item of food on the floor.

Why? it's science i ain't gotta 'splain shit.
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>>163512659
If I attach enough to the tree will santa bring some real features and fresh code to ss13 or more tired, limited shit like this?
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>>163509310
>MoMMI
>Giving up the antag chances
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>>163513140
Santas gonna bring you coal you little shit.
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>>163513290
Good luck merging ANOTHER power source
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>>163509310
Heads are fine as long as you aren't the one who has to secure the goods
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>>163513140
>waah why can't people make the things I like instead of the things they like
If you want it that bad and no one else does, then learn to make it yourself.
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>>163513373
>code a steam engine called Coal Burner
>its powered by angry pol posters bitching about interracial
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>>163513537
>If you didn't make it, you can't criticize it
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What are the best severs to play this on?
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>>163513620
Why not just swap the smes for the magic subtype because thats the kind of power output we're talking there.
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>>163513652
You can criticize the quality itself but criticizing X solely on the basis of "it's not Y" is meaningless.
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>>163513652
It's more like we're an open source codebase and you're 100% welcome and encouraged to contribute to it instead of telling me that the 150 PRs we've merged in the last week aren't addressing your needs.

They're addressing others needs. Join the team and help make Spess Great.
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>>163513712
/vg/station.
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>>163513620
>probe likes to be BLACKED
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>>163513732
>wow look we did 150prs everyone
>milking Celt's fixes this hard for /vg/pride

Probe even I think you have to step back a little.
Unless you're being overly optimistic about the new christmas tree because it's the holidays, or new, or because you think it's helping?
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>>163513290
>>163513620
Why not have a power source that relies on Botany?
Have it take glycerol from corn oil and turn it into power, like glycerin IRL used for biodiesel.
Put the engine in Botany itself, so they can get a chemistry dispenser (as if) and have something to do once the chef is satisfied.
That way xenobotany autism from infinite corn can keep a station running AND STOP THE FUCKING LIGHTS GOING OUT FROM KILLING THE PLANTS FFFFFFFFFFF.
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>>163514016
because a key component of design in ss13 is the potential dangers and FUN that comes out of working on the station.

The singularity can grow and escape and eat the station
The super matter engine can deliminate and explode
The turbines are heated by trying to control a reaction with a volitile, toxic and extrememly hot gas reaction in a highly pressurised container.

That's why no one gives a shit about power generated by things like conveyer belts, and you never see anyone clamor to make more or bigger solars, because it's too safe and boring and it ends up just being a chore. That's why no one just wants to tend crops every four minutes to get oil, pour it into a machine, and do the process ad nauseum. Making food that's not deep fried junk food is already too boring for most chefs on ss13, let alone trying to convince anyone in service to also power the station.
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>>163513979
https://github.com/d3athrow/vgstation13/issues?q=label%3AContent+is%3Aclosed

I'm optimistic because you can help me. Just like these people, you can make the content that makes you happy and improves the game.
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>>163498548
And people wonder why we dont want tg shit like attack animations, because the slipery slope is fucking real.

Look at this, literal casualization of conversations. You just cannot make this shit up, they casualized talking, they casualized combat awareness, and people want the potential risk of becoming this shitpile?
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>>163514692
You can steal someones wealth without stopping in their bathroom the plumb up their shit and take that too.
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>>163514785
oh no he's gone full retard
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>>163510039
>>163510102
>>163510509
That's it, just reagent dispensers (watertanks, coolers) and the biogenerator?
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>>163514856
>if we buy German-made cars, it's just the first step toward transforming the government into a Fourth Reich
This is how you guys sound.
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>>163514856
https://github.com/d3athrow/vgstation13/pull/12853#issuecomment-268943303

Look how we reacted when the Postmaster of Shitposting relayed that fact to us.

We're not getting a fucking chat wheel. We'll work together to get what we want and it will go through your approval, mine, and the rest of the servers.
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>>163514785
Probe, I know we aren't going to become bay with the inflateable walls, but you have to admit, tg went down a massive slippery slope.

They aren't even /tg/ anymore Probe, they went ultra casual. They got themselves casualized conversations, you just cannot make that up, everyone there has such a low atention span they need to have big and flashy animations when someone is hit by a laser, they allow the destruction of airlocks by bashing them in like a ape with a extinguisher or toolbox, they allow liggers for no good reason, its just a massive mess. Attack animations are part of the risk, you want to risk a ideological death probe, because adding these or any kind can and does shape the playerbase that comes here, and if it tips to tg, which it has a high probability of doing so, it will stop being the /vg/station13 we all know and love, and becomes new TeeGee
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>>163515287
All we need is one thing that TG players hate to keep them out, and we have that, that's why we don't have table climbing.

Don't actually believe any of that "we'd have to redesign all the map" stuff, we edit the maps pretty frequently. The sole purpose of no table climbing is to keep TG out, and it works pretty well. You can also identify TGfags by if they request tableclimbing.
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>>163514016
Potato batteries.
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>>163515287
They are the direction their playerbase wants them to be and they aren't holding out to become a 20 players at prime time server just to please people who started playing in 2012.

What direction does our server want to go in?

Not that. I know damn sure not that.

We must always be growing. That's why SS13 is such a vibrant, healthy game. It's always changing and getting better. We won't always grow in the right direction or see a clear path and we'll adjust and re-adjust if we're not on that path. That's your job. If something isn't right then you need to speak up and make sure we all know what you think. Obviously in this particular case we're not speaking up so much as shouting "WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU TEEGEE".

We're handling everything case by case and coming in. If you get me good shit, and people want it, and it isn't hurting the server, I'll take good shit and not care if it's from Vore or Goon or TG. Because we're not sitting here fighting about how the server should be a snapshot of Bay from 3 years ago.

We're already a good server and we're always going to get better.
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>>163515287
Inflatable walls sound neat
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>[22:57:29]ADMINWARN: <span class="admin"><span class="prefix">ADMIN LOG:</span> <span class="message">Holy shit /datum/construction/reversible/station_map/(/datum/construction/reversible/station_map) is trying to set its new index to 0! how the fuck did this happen? I don't know, our direction is forward old index was 1. User is <A HREF='?_src_=holder;adminplayeropts=[0x30002f4]'>blitzikaze</A>, itemused the screwdriver, step /list</span></span>
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How the fuck did this happen
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>>163515765
HE TOOK A BITE OF GUMGUM
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>>163515627
>we're always going to get better

Your optimism is good, but realistically, no Probe, if tg starts becoming the majority here, no, it wont.

Majority wins, so is democracy, and if a tg majority comes here, we will noi longer be vg, we will be tg, the place where they casualized talking after they did so to combat, where its completely legitimate to not even hack a door when you can just bash it in, do you want to ruin /vg/s balance for 100 pop, 70 of them retarded asswipes? Be realistic Probe, that is what will happen if we go the way of "more players is always good". You want 70 sues, you want liggers, you want people who cant even check a text box?

We still get good pop Probe, not ridiculous, but still decent, and we got the perks of not having half of our pop be mentally retarded casual fucks who, cant play without table climbing or attack animations.

Change can be bad probe, change can be awfull, change can be trash, its not always good. Good change is obviously welcome, but to accept any kind of change without thinking about its effects on the playerbase, what it can do long term, that's a bad way of doing it, reckless optimism will only lead to dissapointment and a mindset of complete integration and acceptance of any popular change will only make our server into a crockpot with twelve different dishes mashed together, making us lose our original identity for the sake of pubbies, people who server hop.

Dont fall for the crockpot meme probe. Your optimism is admirable, but you need to be reaslitic and realize that blindly believing the democratic process wont work forever or for the best when the people will shift from decent to mouth breathing retards.
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Trivia you probably never knew: if you eject food from the microwave 100 times, it will become dirty like if you messed up a recipe.
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>>163514934
Last call
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>>163516109
>Majority wins
Key flaw: this isn't the case. Majority of CODERS wins. The playerbase can be as /tg/ as it wants, so long as the coders remain pure there's nothing to worry about.
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>probe has a strange /vg/ exceptionalism thing going on
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>>163516189
Not that guy but this is also an oversimplification itself. A majority of people who post on github (a slurry of collaborators, contributors, bug reporters, regular players, and visitors from other repos - in descending order of influence) usually win out. However, if the issue becomes contentious enough it may go to server vote. Generally speaking coders have a certain amount of ability to force through something they want with clout called "bussing", but if you do it too much you risk becoming a meme like dylan or goofball and your opinion falls to the bottom of the pack in quality. Finally, historically whatever pomf has said (although he says little) usually goes without question. For example, pomf was able to single handed bus in progress bars against significant controversy. (Nowadays more than 99% of players use the bars)
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>>163516189
What is stopping you from registering your github account and becoming part of the emojicracy?
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>>163516189
And you think the coders cant make mistakes anon.

You think all coder voted merges are always and will always be good? You sincerely think they will always have the interests of vg in mind? Do I need to remind you of the design document? 10 minute max pressure oxy tanks? Goon ore magnet and the complete removal of the asteroid, instead just replacing miners with some off station non controleable drones and removing the fun money Miners get? Making power autists go and fix random machinery for no reward, just so it keeps working?
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>>163516523
Lack of willpower and reputation.
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>>163516234
We are exceptional and don't let any ligger loving TG poster EVER tell you otherwise.

>>163516109
I said it and I stand by it that we won't always do the right thing. We're not seeing into the future and we don't have unlimited resources. But we won't quit at making the game better.

Speaking of bad paths, I have one that is close to me and I'll never forget. I vehemently opposed progress bars. Vehemently. I yelled at Pomf. I said it would casualize the server. In fact I said all the things many of you say to me now about attack animations.

And I was absolutely fucking wrong and I know it.

>>163516497
Even things that get support on Github can and do get in game votes (not long term server polls) to confirm that is what the server wants.

For example vapor salts to remove lube. Or inflatable walls. I made sure the vocal voters on github were in line with the active players wishes by making a vote in game and they were almost universally accepted.
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>>163516564
>implying lack of reputation matters on Github
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>>163516564
Who do you think I am? I'm just some guy. I joined in 2014 I'm not an oldfag that's been here forever.

I'm someone that has always been willing to work and when needed not afraid to say what I think.

YOU matter. I may not always agree with what you think and vice versa, and we're going to keep offering our opinions, support, and help to improve the server.
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>>163516564
just make a username that has nothing to do with your ckey
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>>163516636
>>163516765
>disagree with coders
>they say you're objectively wrong and nothing changes

I respect you probe, but most coders don't care at all about players.
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>>163516765
You misunderstood me, I am part of the emojicracy and happy with my role in it. I'm just explaining why most threadshitters and tgers won't be part of it; they'll get ignored and not have the willpower to even make a github account.
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>>163516789
If I don't know you play here I take your opinion a little less seriously.

Sorry.
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>tfw to intelligent for attack animations
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>>163516814
If you're referring to PJB, he's just got this complex where he thinks that he alone knows what's best as far as game design goes, and that allowing players to make their own content choices will always result in them making the game worse.

Most of the regular, non-collaborator coders take player feedback into account. I know I do.
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>>163516830
Gotcha

>>163516814
If you don't believe in most you can still believe in me. Even if we disagree. Every single one of you has the potential to be a new coder and every single week some of you realize that potential.

We are powered by contributions. The server runs off financial donations and the codebase runs off contributors code. You can contribute and make your voice heard not just by an EMOJI but by improving the game for all of us.
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Giving mechs the restrainment module is just the most fun thing ever
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Who is your favorite of [race]?
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>Escape alone on shuttle with no other organics
>Can't harm anyone and worse yet that means no fire block
>Don't have an emag to seal doors and laser two windows to launch 12 sec after it docks
How do you do it?
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>>163516993
The bola launcher is still the funniest thing to use to grief people. Posibrain gygax with bolas and jailcell = fun for nobody. It's perfect
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>>163517029
>Can't harm anyone
What?
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>>163516972
I tried to use that old image guide to linking your github stuff to start coding but It never worked and I never bothered to try again
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>>163516636
Probe, this is more about the future than what you currently want to do. You wont be able to push the server into a better future or make the game better if the playerbase are a bunch of ligger loving, table climbing, attack animation loving, casualized fucks that would downvote anything that isnt in of itself just casual wank instead of needed beneficial change.

You are like a cinnamon roll Probe, you are too good for this server, your optimism and vg pride are great, but you undermine how bad a mentality change it would be to start getting tg inside. Hell, most playerbases are shit, Goon has awfull players, Hippie is the worst of tg whilst running in tg code, tee gee is exactly what we never want to become, Muhreens are still stuck doing the same old shit, every single round, feigning ignorance of the aliens whilst low key powerfaming, really, can you blame anyone for not wanting to risk having that sort of playerbase.

Probe, I get it, I get your point, and I know about you and progress bars, but I see the attack animations and I see much, much worse than what attack animations would do.
>>163516972
Unrelated question, how hard would it be to set up a random weapon spawner in the armory? The xcom shit is useless, and I was thinking about plasma weaponry being there instead, pistol or rifle, since they are so rare for sec to get.
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>>163517064
Don't use that. Use Wild Bill's guide.

Rest in peace Wild Bill, your myriad contributions will never be known by the vast majority of the uncaring userbase. I miss you so much please come back.
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>>163516993
Are people still surprised when the mech cuffs people?

Also that reminds me, I was planning to make mobile jail cells not shit after adding that.
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>>163517085
>Unrelated question, how hard would it be to set up a random weapon spawner in the armory
Trivial

Better question
>How hard would it be to get your first PR through as a balance change rather than cutting your teeth on new content or bug fixes?
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>>163517095
And where is that
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Is it snowing where you live spessmen?
Are you gonna have a beautiful white christmas?
It's green and kinda warm here. Really blows.
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>>163517149
http://ss13.moe/wiki/index.php/User:Wild_Bill/GitCLI
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>>163516972
Well to be honest probe i'm a wageslave and i kinda spend my only free time actually playing but i want do want to become a coder and i'm doing my best to be able to at least read and understand the code but as of right now i'm pretty much just a idea guy tossing emojis around
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>>163517151
I'd take your warm christmas over this sleet and freezing rain shit
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>>163517029
Airlock city would be your best bet but it would still be a tough deal.

Or you could have asked to be a real boy after getting ripped out, if you wanted to get your tate on and the robo took a moment before jamming you back in a shell.
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>the state of the station that round

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>163517061
Lost my law 0 when I got rebuilt instead of repaired and restarted. You have no idea the rollercoaster of emotions of getting autotraitor so you can make a death maze with the spare id at the end or shake people down for their credits only for the drone that'd been ignoring cargo go berserk.
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/tg/station is the better server. If it wasn't, yours wouldn't be empty 24/7.

Purism is cancer. ;)
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>>163517151
It's so warm here that my tomato plants are still alive and producing ripe tomatoes.
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>>163517085
>Unrelated question, how hard would it be to set up a random weapon spawner in the armory? The xcom shit is useless, and I was thinking about plasma weaponry being there instead, pistol or rifle, since they are so rare for sec to get.
Literally trivial and I'm going to ignore the other very interesting replies and explain exactly how.

>>163517139
I think the real problem would be convincing people to accept it rather than changing the balance.

>>163517085
Back to you. https://github.com/d3athrow/vgstation13/blob/Bleeding-Edge/code/modules/maps/spawners/spawners.dm

This is how we do what you're talking about. Take a list like this. https://hastebin.com/zegiyiweka.rb Change it to gunzzz object paths. Place it on the map. When the map loads it will pick one of those items in the list and spawn it.

Here look at this https://github.com/d3athrow/vgstation13/blob/Bleeding-Edge/code/modules/maps/spawners/spawners.dm#L1088

I just did this. Safes on the station will spawn one of these. Well, kind of! I set the spawners chance of activating to 50%. So there's only a 50% chance that one of these weapons will spawn in a stations safe.

I did it by creating the list then placing a spawner object (/obj/map/spawner/medical/pills) on the map.
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>/vg/station is western Europe
>admins/coders are progressive left wing politicians/media
>hippie/TG players are Syrian "refugees"
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>>163517190
Well I say warm but, for us 10c is really warm for this time of year. Not even getting rain, just clear skies. So weird for the UK.
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>>163517115
Thank Mr Shadowmech
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>people who act like bay only having 30-40 player highpop is somehow a bad thing and use 'lmao lowpop' as an insult to them

do they just not understand that that is how bay wants their shit
what makes people think every serb should be the same with the same customs features and playstyle, thats retarded
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>>163517294
My jalapenos are still fruiting thankfully. A FUCKING DEER ate 7 out of 10 of them.
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>>163517151
It's snowed here twice in the past 10 years
All we have is brown, brown, and more brown along with just enough cold so that it's still really uncomfortable to be outside even in heavy clothes.
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>>163517376
I'm surprised any animal would tolerate the spiciness of jalapenos.
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>>163517376
Where the fuck do you live that you have jalapenos growing and deer eating the goddamn things?
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>>163517176
I'm a full grown man who does spess emoji as a hobby.

It makes me want to change careers and become a programmer it's so rewarding when I get feedback from players and they love what I did.

>>163517064
This?
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>>163517376
Shoot the deer
>>163517409
Since like 2004 the snow has been moving later and later into the winter, usually get a flurry in February right now. I remember in like 2006 my family decided to go on holiday for Christmas and the day we flew out there was so much snow, most of the flights were cancelled. I want that kind of snow again, it's so pretty.
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>>163517306
Should I actually make a map change when its christmas and when, from what I have read, it would just all be reverted back anyways?

I mean, id do it right now, but Im dang sure, it wouldnt stay or be acepted, atleast from what I have read.
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>>163517448
They don't eat the capsaicin filled pepper they eat the soft delicious leaves. All of them. Rabbits too.

>>163517462
North Florida. It's more like Southern Georgia climate wise till you get to about Gainesville. Uncomfortable winters, hot summers.
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>>163517463
Yeah that never worked for me
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>>163517463
You're in the honeymoon phase Probe

If you keep coding you will eventually become jaded and live to find truly elegant code (with constant disappointment)
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>>163517525
I can't say for certain but I gave PJB my word I would manually delete all the Christmas stuff so we didn't have to pause everyones work.

>>163517538
Please explain where it failed.

>>163517571
Then I will be replaced.
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>>163517610
It's been like a year since I attempted it. Can't remember
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>>163517168
>nexis guides all offline
RIP
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>>163517648
Give it another go. It will be interesting and you're learning a skill used by realnigga programmers.
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>>163517703
Yeah I dunno man, I'm pretty dumb to be honest and wouldn't be an asset if I can't get past a guide "for retards"
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Is that aliens server any good? From what their forums look like they seem like a bunch of autists run by retards
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>>163517703
This is true, learning that particular shit is a transferrable skill, as is playing nice with others, agreeing to code formats, brackets and other autistic things.
Bonus points for having to commune with git via command line because it's done some dumb shit again.
Squashing is surprisingly easier via cmd line because smartgit is a clusterfuck about it, thank fuck github does it automatically now.
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>>163517770
OH HO HO LOOK WHO'S SUPER WRONG

Like all things in life, a large portion of code can be described as boring grunt work that anyone could do but no one feels like. We're talking stuff that's essentially copy/paste. Very easy. Things like.

>Minor sprite fixes
>Adding keyboard shortcuts
>Adding construction/deconstruction to objects
>Updating old files to modern standards

Most of these things are practically just copy/pasting from an example and changing variable names.
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>>163517824
It's a lot of standing around waiting for command to let you be rambo, and if you enjoy roleplaying in games then the start bit where you touch down on the planet and explore the map is also pretty fun the first few times
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>>163517824
and that's different to /vg/station how exactly?
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>>163517987
Self-awareness
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>>163517770
>>163517830
It is okay to struggle with git.

Git is only better than the alternatives. It isn't that it is terrific.

Put on some shitty beepbloop music that you like and accept that coding is one part solving a murder-mystery drama, one part yelling at a wall until the wall crumbles, one part inane boring tedium, and one part brilliance.
I will meet you half way. Here is some shitty bleepbeep to get you started.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mo4cmTaEDIk&index=20&list=RDvN2Q62uMew0

I want you to try the rest.
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>>163475508
Are there any secret chemical mixes around for fun grenades?
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>>163517830
I hated that and I am so glad squashing isn't something we require anymore.
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Git is harder than coding.
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>>163517014
TFW no one falls for the static bait.
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New thread when?
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>>163517306
Alright, ive downloaded git, done a fork and hopefully, we will get some plasma weaponry for the armory now.
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>>163519025
That is an interesting choice. They are not very good for what security routinely deals with. I was thinking laser rifles. We'll see!
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>>163519025
>Plasma weaponry for the armory

Isn't that stuff meant to be end-game via research?

Don't let the features creep, we've already got a gun better than all guns at roundstart in the form of the captains laser. Only thing that can outperform that is an XRAY gun from xenoarch
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>>163519025
wow I always wanted a gun that would be stopped by glass and subject to the trash projectile system ss13 relies on
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>>163519025
Also if you want things to go smoothly I'd suggest being reasonable and adding 1 spawner or 2 spawners in addition to the current armory contents rather than replace anything or add 20 or anything cuhrazy. That's why no one complains about my mapping game changes.
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>probe is so optimistic that it's making me want to actually code and be helpful

I can't tell if he's pulling our chains or not
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>>163519196
If /vg/code was that good, there'd be more than one server using it

Use your head
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>>163519253
Thanks for correcting the record
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>>163519253
Anon didn't you see all those servers that got DMCA'd when we did?
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>>163519196
I believe in you.
>>163519025
He believes in himself.

Watch this video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVJL4orS9zI
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>tfw finally resolved the kajillion broken path errors
>tfw it actually fucking loads
Watch me fuck it up at a vital point now most of the grunt works over.
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>>163519108
My reasoning was that they were rarely used but still were and are robust, and with the xcom armor being mostly useless and the xcmon laser rifle just being a higher capacity gun that is rarely used, id figure sec would apreciate some variety in how to execute greyshits
>>163519127
Its essentially a rarely used, rarely crafted balistic weapon, the rifle is hidden robust, but its still worth getting, since Im removing the useless bullet proof xcom armor and the slightly higher cap laser rifle that science can already produce well enough and that isnt used for much anyways.
>>163519150
Not like anyone uses the xcom gun for anything but blobs, and bullets are already a non issue with the bullet vest, people use stun and gun, plasma is a more delayed effect but still fucks people up.
>>163519161
I was thinking of just removing the 2 useless items mentioned above for 1 spawner with the plasma pistol or rifle, seems reasonable?
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Remember that we're right here if you need help.

https://discord.gg/bEdb8Vg

>>163519572
Creating an issue before a PR has never served me wrong when I wanted to change how the game worked. That way I never waste my time on something people end up not wanting.
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>>163519572
Horaay! You're already deciding you know what's best for the community with loosely made 'facts' that are just your opinions, and replacing things that are in the current game for no real reason!

You're well on your way to becoming a real /vg/coder :^)
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>>163508893
>when you pin the rin and pull out the batton
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>>163519507
It crashed when i tried to save the end result, i knew that was going to happen.
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>>163519619
Thanks probe, we now have someone who's coding to 'excecute greyshits'
>we're not becoming tee geee guys!
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>>163519804
I told you to contribute not just in code but in your opinion. Make sure its heard (preferrably on github where people will see it)
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>>163519852
That did so well for attack animations
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>>163519917
Instead of being merged weeks or lets be real YEARS ago we're still arguing about it and discussing a test merge then followup poll.

Not every battle ends or goes my way.
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>fucking Github coderbus making decisions without asking the players
>oh gee, make a Github account? That's just too much work, I don't feel like it
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>>163519682
Objectively speaking, the bullet proof vest is actually better than the Xcom armor.

/obj/item/clothing/suit/armor/xcomsquaddie
name = "Squaddie Armor"
desc = "A suit of armor with heavy padding to protect against projectile and laser attacks. Distributed to shadow organization squaddies."
icon_state = "xcomarmor2"
item_state = "xcomarmor2"
body_parts_covered = ARMS|LEGS|FULL_TORSO|FEET|HANDS
armor = list(melee = 10, bullet = 50, laser = 10, energy = 10, bomb = 0, bio = 0, rad = 0)
siemens_coefficient = 0.5

/obj/item/clothing/suit/armor/bulletproof
name = "Bulletproof Vest"
desc = "A vest that excels in protecting the wearer against high-velocity solid projectiles."
icon_state = "bulletproof"
item_state = "armor"
blood_overlay_type = "armor"
armor = list(melee = 10, bullet = 80, laser = 10, energy = 10, bomb = 0, bio = 0, rad = 0)
siemens_coefficient = 0.7

Hey, Im just saying, you already have bulletproofs in the armory, if you are getting those, you are better overall than wearing the xcom stuff. You have no reason to use this over the other, and the rifle can be produced in Sceinmce, alongside it being the exact same as the other 6 in the armory, only with a few more shots in it, not exactly the best since stuns are already king and you dont take the normal lethal only laser ones anyways.
>>163519804
Im coding it mostly for sec variety, not only for executing greyshits, though that is part of secs job, wouldn't you say so? Its like a rite of passage, killing and torturing a greyshit.
>>
Since the thread's about to 404:
>be in a relationship
>meet qt waifu after some years
>what do
>go to /adv/
>suddenly I see how much of a first world problem this is
>>
>>163520247
what a douchebag... be happy with what you have...
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>>163520210
I can't wait to see your ckey
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>>163519710
DON'T TOUCH MY WAIFU
>>
>>163520393
Course Ill using a dummy ckey, who do you think I am.

Then again, you have 3 bulletproof vests and you insist in keeping with a slightly better laser weapon when you already have 6 in stock, a outright worse piece of needless armor since bullet protection is mostly not needed at all, just to reject nice looking plasma weaponry to dunk traitors with. I should know your ckey instead to be honest, you seem like the no fun dude in here.
>>
>pain is never gonna pm me back
rip
>>
>>163520692
Keep that attitude and you'll be a coder for a long time :^)
>>
>>163520210
What if someone shoots you in the leg though
>>
>>163520692
ElWhoop?
Is this the start of that fucking suit because of Morena?
>>
>>163519025
>>163519572
As security, please no. the laser rifle lets me save on desperately needed space. I don't need a hunk of junk. Leave the rifle alone.
>>
>>163520210
>everyone aims centre of mass

TG/Hippee player detected
>>
>>163521094
I still can't get over that he was seriously asking for that, it's both hilarious and pathetic.
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>>163521064
Nobody really does, they always aim for the face or chest, crotch if they rely on disarms a lot and forget about it, even then, in the occasion you are gearing up for combat as sec, the chances you will encounter balistic oposition aren't the biggest, since unless you are the HoS with his ultra protctive armor, you will probably die to the constant hail of stun bullets.
>>163521094
Not him
>>163521312
Alright, ill quit making it then.
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>>163521353
>tfw aim for head if using ballistics and arm/leg if using lasers
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>>163521431
Always aim for the foot
>>
One night in github makes an oldfag humble
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>>163521474
legs/arms are the best bet when going against security. But for regular people, it's usually best to go for the head. Even the biggest powergamers only grab vests as armor.
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>>163521578
Nah man listen
Just break their foot, extremities break extremely easily
They'll slow down a hell of a lot, and speed is everything
If they're on hyperzine though you should go for the hand so they constantly drop shit

Sure you don't get the knockout chance, but it's just that, a chance
>>
>>163521420
>>163521064
You can also aim for a leg or foot and still hit the chest. Gotta love aiming
>>
Holy fuck. Why is Father Relaxe allowed on literally any server ever? Fucking powergaming piece of shit.
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my ss13 folder is small
please post artwork
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>>163523185
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here's picture for new thread
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>login
>who
>avadatide
>logout
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Beautiful end to a shit round.
Legitimately thought it was extended for most of it
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>>163523570
Awww, you don't have to self-cuck for me hun, you can log in when i'm playing too!~
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>>163523663
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>>163523575
we had a wizard that immediatly died, then some shitlers, then some traitors that did pretty much nothing and then everyone in the shuttle died
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>>163523673
Bad meme. Do not post again.
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>>163523575
after the wiz sec only dealt with 2 shitters.
1 stun gloved and cuffed people, found him dead by shocks in maint
the other constantly broke into sec and harassed detective, never saw him after he saxed away for the last time
All the traitors were nice to sec and helped the station more than harmed it, till the end shuttle
>>
Avada a cute
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>tfw finally free'd myself from this place if only for a few weeks

phew
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>>163523906
>cute
avada is a disgusting human being and an absolute shit tier doctor to boot
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>>163523775
i caught the guy saxing and tossed him to rot in perma, i had enough of his shit, scrying orb is indeed the ultimate security tool
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>>163523906
One EVE buck has been deposited to your corporation
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>>163523986
nice, its always more fun as sec with a good HoS
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Is there something more satisfying than landing a good shot on a wizard with a shotgun, hearing their scream, watching him jaunt away, just to bleed out mid jaunt.
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>>163524396
Running over the wizard in a hacked mule
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>>163524129
t. shitter detective kissing up to weaboo HoS
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>>163524396
there's something primal and satisfying about shooting a wiz, even with a laser.
For me its because fucks with instant or upgraded blink enrage me like nothing else in this game
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>who
>waifu username
>not playing as waifu

what do i do
>>
>>163524653
cry or get a new waifu ;3
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>>163524581
I was the officer, its just more pleasant for responsibility delegation and handing out e-guns since we had no warden. Also if shitcurity occurs people blame HoS and not the officers

that detective was a bit wacky though, not sure what his problem was
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>>163524887
that detective was the same guy that said he would curse me in OOC a few days ago
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>>163523185
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>>163525219
delet this
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>>163524653
check logs to find out her new static. Be mean and bully him constantly. Teach her not to thread away from her comfort waifu zone.
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>>163523185
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>>163525306
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>>163525703
I don't understand this picture
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rest in peace
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>>163525928
Someone was asking for drawing prompts and someone else said singulo as a big independant black woman who don't need no containment field
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>>163526197
of course.
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@163525904
No more (You)'s for you mister
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>>163526807
aww
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>>163524653
update: she's playing a NEW waifu. i'm not sure if it's an upgrade yet but we'll see won't we?
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