Tree of Savior General - /tosg/

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why

Just let it die like Kim wants it to.

What the fuck do archers do now? Every single one I see is Ranger3SR2 or SR3.

What happened to all those ranger3fletcher2 memebuilders?

>>163326269
I can just hear his little br voice whispering those into my ear as I carry his ass through the jungle

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>>163326269

Gimme dem PvE builds, /tosg/. This event convinced me to play again.

>>163326178
archers are dead

>>163326967
>

>>163326759
Fencer3, Chronolinker, Diev3

Play anything else and you'll just be getting carried by these 3.

>>163326178
Rank8 happened

SR3 > fletcher

if you want pvp, only hunter

>>163327402
this tbqh

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>>163327353
Murm here and I always beat fencer cucks :^).

>>163326759
Don't go for a magic based build unless you're willing to invest heavily into it. The best low fundage build in the game imo is a footgoon. That is pelt>hop3>doppel>goon2. They have both good defence and offence and work very well with low funds.

A variation of that would be sw2>pel/sw3>hop2>hop3/Corsair/dopp>goon2. In this build you take sw circles for added pain barrier, corsair is great and no longer just a pvp meme, since it's hard cc and shuts down r8 mobs nicely. Both work on a budget with the first being one of the most used cookie cuts in game

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Post asses

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>>163328097

>>163327748
>>163327353
Really? Archers are dead in PvE too? The fuck happened in this game, /tosg/ is actually recommending sword builds.

Elememe is dead too?

>>163328264
RIP Pink Monk

>>163328398
Archers died because literally the only thing that matters in this game is your last rank. Archer has mediocre R8 classes, same with Wizards. Elememe was literally good for one skill, and they got completely fucked in R8 because IMC decided to pump the magic defense of every monster because Clerics were doing retardedly high damage.

>>163328264
>wetwetwe

Uhmmmmmmmmmm

>set up repair shop at popular grinding area
>only one doing it all day
>eventually someone sets up a shop repairing at a loss right next to me
What did they mean by this

>>163328613
Well, fuck me.

Do swords still go 3:1 str:dex if they go hop3 ?

>>163329043
No go full or very high dex. Dex gives so much more than Str at present. But there is Str buffs being talked about, only kim knows for sure though. They could be nothing or they could change the meta completely.

>>163329043
STR is worthless, go full DEX. They buffed red gems so much that it's even worth using them as a fucking magic class. You can get the equivalent of 150 STR on a single fucking red gem, and you can use 2-4 of them on a weapon.

>>163329148
>>163329254
lmao what the fuck is this game

Alright, I think I might as well just hop on my corsair and get to Dragoon then. I know it'll probably be shit compared to hop3-doppel-goon2, but ayyy

>>163326269
I will fuck your eye sockets if you make fun of my retarded BR guildie.

>>163329395
What's your build so far?

>>163329395
I forgot to mention that they added another weapon upgrade system that can boost the damage of your weapon by 550%, which is another reason why STR is dead. It only takes literally hundreds of runs through the same boring instance, or you could just buy them with the silver you get through botting or from MMOTANK.

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>>163328097

>>163329482
Pelt1Hop2Corsair2

>>163329596
Welp this is fucking dumb. Why even have other stats besides con/dex/int then?

>>163329753
ooh bby

>>163330141
There is no reason. SPR and STR and literally trap stats currently. Kim talked about doing a stat revamp a fucking long time ago, but nothing has been said or done since.

Your build is fine for Dragoon. Corsair C2 would make it pretty good in PvP, if PvP existed.

>>163329460
how many BR are there in Crimson?

>>163330141
if you go Dragoon 2 your build is still fine. Instead of a shitty cyclone you have Hexen Barker which is still a great skill.

>>163330471
90% of Crimson is BR.

>>163330804
but cirmosn is tosg.....

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the boy auction is going to be big this week!

>>163330867
90% of tosg is br though

Wtf is Lolipan doing back online? Go play 5 hour chain of warp jumps simulator 2017.

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>>163330950
are you going to auction off Murbish?

>>163331006
I said I'd come visit every once in a while.

>>163330950

>That feel when people have been trying to capture you forever but you've managed to evade them

>People spouting the 50k players meme even though that was only for like a couple days.

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>>163331743

>>163331415
not our people!

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>>163310961

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>>163332708

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>>163331415
>>163332373
That an MMO bleeds players after launch is no big news. The problem is, we had reached a VERY stable playerbase at around 7k people at one point, but then they continue to absolutely neglect the game until we started bleeding players again. Now we're below 4k and still dropping an average 10 players PER DAY.

Losing players isn't the problem, the problem is that IMC is failing to retain the playerbase long after the game-hoppers have all already left. We're losing loyal playerbase now.

>>163332708
>i was pretending guys xd

>>163332803
>still top 100000 on steam!

>>163332803
They need to attract new players too instead of just people rerolling.

>>163332803
its probably best to ignore the total playercount though because of how we have 5 servers meaning theres literally less than a thousand on each server

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>>163332803

>>163332708
JUST FUCKING KILL ME

FP still has none of the cancer """"melting pot"""" guilds like cnl have.

>>163333290
cnl is comfy though
the difference is that they get free TP

>>163333346
>the difference is that they get free TP
Which anyone can get by making a guild and losing once.

>>163333290
what are you talking about

>>163333346
Even Aspirity gets TP. It has nothing to do with CNL.
But FP can't even queue at least once a week even with 10 people online.

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>>163330452
>>163329596
>>163329254
>>163329148
>>163328613
>Used to play STR based archer
>check out general just to see where the game is at now
>mfw

>>163333403
if it's so easy, then why not do it?

>>163333775
STR based Archer is still viable with the new Wugushi3 buffs

>>163330452
SPR is ok for super specific priest and Chaplain builds the problem is the same as throughout cleric tree; why bring more ranks in Priest or put points in Pardoner for magic defense when you can just have one in priest for resurrect and have diev which does everything else better?

>>163333859
It's almost like you are implying that getting lucky and winning against 5 leech guilds is something to be proud of.

>>163333937
you dont have to win, you can still lose and get TP

>>163333859
Not everybody abuses the system?

If someone wanted to join a guild for free TP, obviously wouldn't be FP since they "want" to do it the legit way, which is pretty much impossible.

And joining guilds for free TP is not the only reason to join one, dunno why this argument is used so much.

>>163333937
well sorry if that came off condescending, I was just curious why you wouldn't pick up free tp that's literally placed at your doorstep, I'm guessing >>163334079 answered it

>>163333290
FP will still be around long after you get mad and quit.

>>163335016
>FP will still be around

Doing what

Actually, what have they been doing this whole time?

>>163335016
At some point FP will only have people who are too lazy to switch guilds, lowbies and non-tosgs.

>>163335137
What is there to do in this game?
Wasting potions on guild bosses (HP sponges with zero AI)?

>>163335150
but that's what they are right now

>>163335367
>non-tosg
Cool story, shitjane.

Best non /tosg/ guild?

>>163335501
>he doesn't know

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>>163335839
Yes.

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>>163329753
It's mesmerising...

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Enjoy you're ban

>>163336307
I've seen towers heal and have no idea what triggers it either, is it the golem guardian people don't usually use?

>>163336451
But does it actually replenish the bar on top of the screen?

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>>163335137
Getting gold accounts.

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JULIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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How are you doing these days senpaitachi?

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Oh man, now even jtos is months ahead of us.

>>163337331

what's that?

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>>163337331
delet this fucking shit

>>163337393
新ダンジョン&新システム実装

>>163337331
We truky play cToS
KEKS Tree of Savior

Wiz3 Pyro3 Link2
Is this meta enough once we get Agni?

>>163337781
>he still thinks we're getting updates

>>163337781
>implyning we get Agni
Next big updated is rank 9

>login first time since june
>try to queue to 217 dungeon
>0 people
>try again in couple of hours
>0 people
So how do i level?

>>163338212
Do quests and missions. You don't need dungeons after 190.

can I join comfy guild from telsai?

>>163338268
Sure, give us your best erp line and dankest meme

>>163338240
The closest zone that i didnt finish is 220. and 2 mission runs wont help much. Whatever, have fun lads

>>163338212
You quest and then hope to find Storage/Abbey parties, then you hope to find someone to quest or grind in rank 8 maps too
If you aren't on Klaipeda, Telsiai or Silute then you can just unistall again, even better, just unistall, game in June was 10 times better and if ypu quitted back then you would quit again in 1-2 weeks

>>163338308
Why?

>>163337781
no

Pyro+Agni does not get much from QC

>mia is 330 lvl and still playing that game
mad autistic german woman?

>>163338212
quest
missions
grind

217 and 240 (for exp) had ALWAYS been very dead in iTOS

>>163338372
shit is easy and fast, but bb

>>163338530
330 is not special or hard or slow. many have one or more

>>163338526
Why not? Aren't both multipliers applied at the very end?

Polish autist azebu still playing?

fukcing hate azube.... ...

>>163338686
its ends up like ~450%
and ~400% without QC

>>163338742

>polish

this explains everything

there's literally no difference from a br and a polish

t. swe who played tibia vs those two inexplicable human races

>game went from unplayable because of overpopulation on servers to unplayable because of lack of people
What went wrong?

>>163339227

game is in the best state right now imo

if we stay with those current number with a small but decent flux of new players to take the spot of the ones who leave we can enjoy this ride for another year at least

>>163338857
Wait, what.

How can direct skills multipliers like Quick Cast no to be multiplicative to the end damage?

I'm pretty sure that Glass Moles and Chapparition are, and they are pretty much the same buff, no?

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>>163339957

>>163340010
>IMC

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New meta?

>>163340010

different tiers

450% is still better than 400, remember you do billions of multihits with a super 315 staff plus your other possible skills (like warlocks or pyro elememe builds) and possible new dps skill at r9

>>163340354
So wiz3 pyro3 is perfectly fine then?
What else would one take otherwise? pyro3 link3 enchanter?

>>163340410
Pyro is trash without linker.
c1 sucks, get link2.
link3 overrated and not very good in random parties.

>>163340410
Nah, Pyro needs linker, Fireballs have a fixed aoe ratio of 4, so they can only hit 2 medium mobs without links or a falconer.

>>163340536
>>163340576
Yes, wiz3 pyro3 link2 I mean

>>163340594
Considering both r8 wizard classes are shit for dps and the r7s are shit without wiz3, sounds alright.

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WHERE IS THE XMAS HAT ANON

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???

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>>163340791
>being a cisgendered faggot

Where did all lancers go?
Weren't swordies supposed to finally dominate TBL with all their anti-magic gimmicks?

>>163341750
Lancers are shit.
Cats is lancer.
Cats is shit.

>>163341750
Dragoon2 is better in pvp

Can lancers even clear owls easily?

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>>163341817
>boss-focused class is better at pvp than the pvp-focused class
Really makes you think
But hey at least we can rest assured they wouldn't make the anti-magic class so good at anti-magicking that it became the best at anti-everything, right?

>>163342038
>Really makes you think
Think on what, that class ranks matter?

If people don't use the earlier rank classes to cover the later rank class flaws they're ust retarded.

>>163343104
Some ranks have no flaws.

>>163343142
Name one that isn't Diev/Linker?

Those are the only complete classes in the game, and none of them have "no flaws" besides those 2.

>>163343287
Inquisitor

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The oracle slut will have her doujin

>barrage

this shit is affected by aoe ratio?

>>163343957
I don't think so

>>163343957
It is.

>>163343957
Maybe.

>>163344148
>>163344265
>>163344328

anon pls

I wanna now if cirlcing herlps it

it does not seems to

>>163344735
There was a >reddit post on that a long time ago
Besides that, I don't really notice anything different wtih mana/vubbe on

>>163343957
>>163344735
https://www.reddit.com/r/treeofsavior/comments/53xvns/ranger_barrage_analysis_and_concerns_with_circling/

>>163345016
>>163344791

ty anons

>>163347446
>not letting it die

>>163341817
it's arguably not, dethrone's burst is very, very good, but if you can't one/two-shot them you might want better utility with silence/magic circle breaking, etc.

>>163348081
The thing is is that goon2 lets any retard be somewhat good at pvp because it's such a fuck you tier skill. Lancer on the other hand actually requires some modicum of skill to play effectively and that's why a lot say goon2>lancer.

Expect lancer to get a fuck you tier skill in r9 too and goon3 to only get dethrone lvl 10 and something like a dragoon jump that deals something like x10 damage on XL monsters and it'll have a semi high cd something in the field of 30-40secs

>>163349157
>Expect lancer to get a fuck you tier skill in r9

>Rank 9
>Ever coming to itos

>>163348081
>you might want better utility
Good thing dethrone comes with a rank3 root, which goes through Bloodletting and Prophecy.

Serpentine into full Rush will kill almost everyone after that.

>>163350020
Both mikos and PDs can dispel that.
I'm pretty sure there are at least 3-4 people rolling miko PDs to every person rolling dragoon c2.

>>163350020
rank3 root is good, but still not necessarily better utility than what lancer offers - if you're already fighting a pd2 and/or oracle, chances are you're already fighting aus and/or r7 - it's a can of worms. Sometimes being able to break SZ and/or heal tiles is preferable, maybe you need lancer's block pen buff against stoneskin, etc.

>>163350564
I am pretty sure I've seen parties shouting for dps far more than they shout for healers, this game is all messed up.

>>163341212
I don't get why non trans people even use "cis" to identify the usual people. Cis literally means "from this side of(someone's perspective, e.g. Cisalpine, Cisjordan)", while trans means beyond.

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Good morning /tosg/!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>>163354396
>morning
>14:29

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>>163354396
GOOD MORNIIIIIIIING!

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>>163354441
Uhmmm.... it's 8:32AM Anon

why do i lose my aspersion every time i do missions now?

i need it to not get one shot, anything i can do?

>>163354853
People are overbuffing you which pushes aspersion off the buff bar, there's nothing you can do.

Setting the game to run in real full screen mode (Resolution mode="0") kind of doubled my fps in fedimian (from 15 to 28 with 35 people in the channel).
The problem is that it disables alt-tabbing for me.

In before placebo.

>>163354853
buff bug came back. I noticed I got around it if i took off my gear, zoned, then put it back on inside the mission

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>>163343572
She really REALLY can't help but get assaulted by slimes.

>>163354996
That's normal, most people aren't willing to give up alt tabbing but disabling it improves fps more than anything else you can do.

>>163354396
Ohio!

>>163355031
You're just trying to get me to get naked, you perverted FREAK. FUCK YOU.

Is wugushi 3 still the best first character to have? I want to start farming gear for a fencer but have no other characters.

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Good morning!

>>163325723
But archer sailor soon™!

>>163357980
It's black/dark navy though. Not the classic Sailor outfit.

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>>163358060
Boatfag still approves!
But...can we make imc do this for Cleric?

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>>163358470
I DON'T APPROVE I WANT CLASSIC SEIFUKU ON MY ARCHER AND CLERIC!

Why are the servers so shit? Lost two runs now.

>>163357894
When the fuck was wugu 3 ever the best first character? Scout 3 for 145 clears is what you must be thinking of

>>163358629
No! All boats are beautiful!
I know, the classics are cuter than the rest, but without worse-looking ones the good-looking ones don't look as good as they do!

Remember when we used to do kill counts... good times.

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>haven't sold an item in 3 days
>suddenly someone on the market i want to buy

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>>163358629
>>163358470
>>163359178

>>163359605
>someone
Boy auctions are illegal and will be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law

>>163359875
I pay Faery all the time though

>>163359605
I want to buy a cute boy too.

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Hello, is this the right thread for the Solmiki interview?

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>>163360223
>172 players like this character

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>>163360223
Yes.

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>>163360223
>he can pull AND dps

so... next level....

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>>163360223

>>163360223
>>163360802
>Not having a character dedicated to farming Uosis with L E V E L 1 5 D P E

>>163360223
That's a pretty good dungeon clear build.
>taunt 15 into cyclone 15

Are Nuaele cards really worth 5m?

>>163364336
not anymore, it's been nerfed heavily.

>>163364521
It wasn't nerfed

so the different between an item with magic attack, fire property attack or poison property attack when effecting your spells is nothing but the enemies resistance right?

>>163365540
Should be it.

>>163360223
but why the suncus maul?

>>163365540
more or less, its a pretty shitty system really

we should just have pure elements like in RO

>>163365540
Yes if you don't consider Chapparition cards, which are they only magical modifier that only influence magic attack.

>>163338212
Nobody does 217 dungeon because it sucks ass.

>>163366364
also if you get crowned you lose int but your element damage doesnt change but honestly its just a weird stat

>>163364521
>>163365179
o-oh... thanks?

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did they fuck?

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THE MADMAN DID IT AGAIN

does random queuing for dungeons not give massive exp boost anymore?

>>163367507
This is embarrassing. What's his endgame even?

>>163359070
Wugushi is less gear dependent because of how poisons work.

>>163367507
eww time to leave this shitty general

>>163367752
Why not just ask him?

>>163367507
I would but the japanese and korean servers are so much better. Also not as likely to be shut down by the end of next year.

>>163368053
Because I was being facetious. I already know the answer. He wants attention. Any kind of attention is good attention. He comes back from work and the first thing he does is cringepost in shout or in tosg all while being a low level literal who.

>>163330950
Do you have a boy archer?

>>163355297
>Monk

OUT

>>163365540
Elemental attacks are good for magic users because it ignores magic defense. Normal magic attack takes into account both mdef and resistances.

>>163366286
That would work with the current system really, and be good because an enemy could nullify or absorb part of an elemental property attack. So Arde, for example, would make you do less damage against enemies that absorbed fire.

There should be more ways to make basic attacks something elemental besides enchant fire and lightning though, and whatever the holy one is.

>>163366506
It gives okay gold and animus. People should do it more.

>>163368552
We do

>>163369850
They probably don't want you being able to scale elemental damage to the same extent as phys/magic since it bypasses def/Mdef and would be the superior option to upgrade for most classes if you could.

The inability to upgrade prop attack is the main thing holding Chaplain back from being a legitimate class choice though.

>>163370131
show them

>>163370169
I'm not sure what you mean. Only elemental property damage bypasses it, if your sword attack is fire, it still applies to bonus and penalties to fire attacks and physical defense.

Cleric/Krivis/Bokor2/Paladin3/Bokor3 reporting in. How fucked am I?

When will Paladins HP Regen Aura affect Bokor zombies? There's no reason why it shouldn't.

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What are you going to wear to the Christmas meetup in 2 days?

>>163370473
>no cleric 2

You fucked but nice army of the damned and converts.

>>163370543
Your panties

>>163370361
Offline right now and I don't have any screenshots of this particular boy

>>163370578
Pure Spirit for those sweet crit buffs from Krivis. Also Aukuras works nicely when you're in 1 spot... and it's also why I assumed Paladin HP Aura would buff up the Zombies... I kind of gave up once I hit Pally1 because of that. Instead of getting a nice duration boost to my Zombies, I got a fairly useless circle until circle 2.

>>163370543
I'm not going

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>Futureproof is recruiting TOSG!

We've got fun, active members who participate bi-weekly in open-world PvP. If you are in need of a friend group who will help you with your goals we can do that.

I'm convinced there is a specific pool of TOSG players that isn't increasing. Obviously the all the best GBL players can't be in every guild, so until another TOSG guild disbands I'm reaching out to our outliers: Players who haven't posted recently, or players who can't read the thread every single day due to obligations but can chat in-game. These players are busy like myself, and if we're being honest, the thread is total shit sometimes so reaching out to them in-game is my goal. I'm very adamant about making absolutely sure Futureproof is TOSG only and do ask several qualifying questions to be sure.

We don't always get weekly TP, but I make sure that we do get rewards because I care for the guild and the players. If you come over we do host nightly boss hunts, play together, and have a generally active chat. In an effort to boost our GBL potential I am offering to buy pizza for any current guildie who finds us a lvl 250+ TOSG player who can attend GBL. If you're a 300+ with a PvP build, I will offer you a pizza as well. If I can't get us TP, buying our members something they can enjoy out of my own pocket is the least I can do until we're at that point.

People say a lot of bad things about Futureproof and there's a lot of shitposting, but I'll work hard to make it fun for you if you want to be a part. As always, just PM Cats and they'll get back to you.

>>163370543

Same thing as always because I'm not funding Kim's dragon dildo collection and I'm not a crimson dog.

Hi I just started game and was killing lvl 24 stuff and someone told me 'eat a dick, faggot'
what did i do i was just hitting things

>>163371248
>He doesn't have TP from early access
>He thinks he has a right to complain about the game after having paid nothing for it.

>>163372139
first day playing online games?

>>163372139
Are you playing Euro server? Maybe he was just offering you a snack.

https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#4111bbbig
Decent? How to build skill/stat for this?

Is Monk3 feasible or is it a meme class?

Thinking of Cleric2>Diev2>Monk3>Inq

Or should I exchange Diev2 for Dive1Pally1

>>163373018
No monks allowed

>>163372805
I was literally in a non-ironic sense going to reset into this.

Pros:
Cleric C3 costume
Paladin C3 costume
Miko costume
Can solo r8 content with ease

Cons:
You aren't diev
You aren't oracle
You aren't kaba

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>>163370361
Onko is one of the prize cute boy archers from the Ohayou haul. he is cute and kind, and keeps good timers. bids start at 100 talts.

>>163373107
I'm definitely interested in trying it because I want those costumes too, but I don't know what would be its main stat (INT? DEX?) and a decent way to distribute skill points (especially Paladin).

>>163373747
Is he okay with being dressed as a girl?

>>163371164
I guess the guild really did die the day Lolipan left.

>>163374095
I'd go full DEX if I manage to get a stat rest potion.

>>163374262
Nothing changed besides Cats' constant cringeposting.

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>>163374158
Yes! In fact I found a recent picture of a good cross-section of our other selections, with faceshots and profiles. Whisper me with any serious inquiry, we'll make it happen. Talt-back guarantee all of our boys are extremely well trained and docile.

Oops. forgot to post the good part!

>>163374158
What boy isn't okay with that?

>>163373747
How much for the beef?

Only a week in and I'm kinda bored. Eh I'm done. Game is cute but it's boring, which would be ok if the client did not crash 3-4 times a play session. Why would I not just play ragnarok is the real question? The amount of customization to make your character look cute is shit. I keep watching into people that look just like my characters. Over all $30 poorly spent.

>>163374809
>Why would I not just play ragnarok is the real question?
The same reason you weren't playing it before and didn't ignore this game to continue playing it. Old RO is boring and new RO is shite.

>>163374809
Nice blog
Bye

>>163374809
Is this some steam review from EA?

>>163374952
That's true. Sad thing is I like the game play and class system a lot. It's just a bunch of other issues that suck.

>>163375181
Stick through to 200+ where the game becomes its true final form. Grinding is where it's at.

>>163374297
I'll try full DEX for you then, got an idea of how to make this build. Thanks.

Should I still bother with the level 100 Missions? Game seems to be too dead to run them.

>>163368067
what is better there?
except items/class and nerfs we get soon

>190 shards

>>163375836
You should. It's the only easy way to get tons of exp quickly.

>>163372139
maybe you should eat a dick? you faggot

>>163376036
>being poor

>>163376398
>RMT
sasuga

>>163376434
¿

Top fucking lmao http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=60483820

>>163376071
I don't remember them giving this much exp.... did they get buffed since launch? I mean the 15 minute queue sucked.

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>>163376785
Cute!

Saved

>>163376896
Don't queue during dead hours.
Missions give 2 times more EXP than before and you get a free x4 tome every day.

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Hi! I'm here for the meatup interview!

>>163376785
>>163377026
Do not bully please

>>163377026
Bo back to licking Eroc's dick

>>163377026
How much did you pay for the commission?

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>You will never comission porn of your characters will all the TP your guildmaster pays you for ERPing

>>163377341
It was free

>>163377430
Aight

FUCKJ YOU

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>>163377430
>no one will draw your character for free

>>163377575
pm Chris

>>163374754
we can start beefoven at 75 talts, but minimum bid is 10 talt increments.

>>163377575
>shitpost so much on tosg
>even swaaz has been drawfagged
>no drawfag draws me

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>>163378686
>even swaaz has been drawfagged
what? where? show

>>163378820
in the same bread where the beet x swaaz doujins showed up. look it up for yourself.

>>163379189
shitty lazyassed edits dont count as
>drawfagged

even Christine's paint draws are better than them

>>163373747
>he likes mangos so he named his pet mango.
Cute

>>163381330
>implying it's not named after GM Mango

So how long until diev mikos join the bee mafia by macroing clap?
Reminder this cancer is only a thing in iTOS

>>163381635
How long until they just remove bees?

>>163381635
How long until they just add miko?

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>>163381864
6 Days !

I have too many builds to reset (´･ω･`)

>>163381635
How come there's no Paladin conversion afk farmers? Don't think there's a limit on how many converts you can have.

>>163382620
Skill level * 1

>>163374730
W-whats the good part?

>>163380845
>those thighs
wtf korea

>>163381635
>thinking owls can compete with warlock spirits

>>163383816
>implying there are warlocks botting bees

>>163383816
didnt you fuck off, Cel?

>"The development team is quite sad that the giant rune ability is treated as a visually flashy skill. However, making changes to this ability requires some careful consideration as it can cause several issues later down the line.

What did they mean by this, anyway? You couldn't do anything with it but jump. How did they expect it to be used?

>>163384887
source?

>>163384887
maybe they expected Wizards to become tanks except they forgot that the aggro system in this game is garbage and woops you just took 20k damage

>>163385262
Last week's KR patchnotes.

>>163385456
A tank that keeps aggro by jumping on enemies

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>>163385456
>>163385751
>Tank
>TOS

>>163385937
That reminds me of that kOBT meme that placed Rodelero as the king of the game because it was the only "magic tank"

>>163385751
If they can jump, why can't they use Barbarian's jumping kick to do massive damage?

>>163386486
(almost) all skills are disabled in giant. i think that was changed a bit recently

>>163382620
Conversion DOESN'T FUCKING WORK is why.

>>163384887
I think what they were thinking was along the lines of Giant rune interacting with other classes, not so much self-synergy. Think how much damage it would do if a full Int FF transposed to Con Featherfoot with Kabbalist's Ein Sof level 10 and Giant rune were to use Featherfoot's blood curse.

can someone tell me the common warlock2 skill point distribution

help anon

due to tomes, missions and dungeons, I skipped most of the maps and I'm around lv 170 now

But I need to do some questing to reach r6. When we start to get lv 7 cards? And level 8? which maps should I look? Tyla monastery and monks quest-line?

>>163387049
https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#2122aa2ff.15253352.1f34415a657a.1a213a435165.1a293a41

>>163387046
But they prevented RoG from using skills. What skills could they even use before besides auto attack and jumping? (now you can use other runecaster skills with it)

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>>163386486
>Rune of Giants doesnt quadruple Giant Swing damage and throw distance

>>163387323
Oh you can only use RC skills now? I got nothing then, unless they intend to add max hp scaling moves for tanks in the future or something like that.

>>163387254
All those answers can be answered with Google.

>>163387046
What would happen is that BC would hit damage cap.
It's total overkill especially when we get the poison element changes, so those setups are useless until the remove the arbitrary damage cap.

So I only just now noticed that warp stone cooldown got reduced.
When did that happen?

>>163387254
My two favorite routes are dina bee farm -> tyla monastery and nuoridin falls -> valius' eternal resting place

>>163387796
a while ago

>>163387880
>>163387790


dina bee = lv 8 cards

thanks, anons!

The new christmas bgm is really cute, shame it only plays once and then loops back to the regular town theme

SFA - No Matter Christmas
https://my.mixtape.moe/oqtlre.mp3

>>163388170
Maybe next year we'll have proper christmas themed maps!

Is this game dead yet? I stopped playing like 5 months ago. Is it still 2fps hoglan and garbage class balancing?

>>163387705
Not "only," it's an upgrade from not being able to use (most?) skills with RoG before. They plan to increase the number of skills you can use with RoG.

>>163388325
Play the game and find out.

Hello, my wiz build is currently Wiz1>Pyro1>Linker2>Sorc3

Which rank 8 class would be a better choice for me?

>>163389010
>Play the game
I quit the game for a reason (Because it was garbage). If it's still garbage I'm not going to bother

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>>163387705
> ► Rune of Giants
> ○ The cooldown time has been lowered to 120 Seconds. (Previously 300s)
> ○ Runecaster skills are now available to use whilst under the enlarging effects of Rune of Giants.

> ○ Runecaster skills are now available to use whilst under the enlarging effects of Rune of Giants.

>>163389151
then fuck off

>>163389108
Sage, for >REPEL WORE OFF antics of duplicating your bats with micro dimension

>>163388325
its ded but alive and still pretty shitty

>>163389108

Class REROLL is a good one. Have a skill called "PICK BETTER CLASSES" and "SHIT BUILD IS SHIT"

>>163389261
Or you could stop being defensive. Your responses tell me it can't have improved that much.
>>163389304
Did rank 8 not improve the game overall any?

>>163389108
sage cuz hole is good and >>163389296 and other class are more shit

around what level do i reach rank 8 at?

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>>163388249
>He thinks this game will be alive in NA next year

With how slow and shitty these current updates are i wont be surprised if it lasts another three months

>>163389507
If you didn't like it to begin with, you still won't like it now.

>>163389507
>Did rank 8 not improve the game overall any?
the game is literally worse after rank 8

>>163389507
>Did rank 8 not improve the game overall any?

Each update they destroy the game more and more, so you shouldn't count updates as being good, unless its a new class like miko(which is also op)

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>>163390621
>i wont be surprised if it lasts another three months
Me either! See you in 3 months!

>>163390946
miko when?

>>163390567
275-276

Priest 2 diev 3 plus anything else is pretty always good right? How does diev 3's damage scale into late game? What are some good non druid choices?

>>163388170
Wait is this actually in the game? Where does it play? Or it just Ktos?

>>163391137
>How does diev 3's damage scale into late game
Which damage?

Owls are quite weak later in PvE, but okayish on pvp, thats it.

>>163390567
272-275

>>163389507
rank8 made it worse
balance is even more fucked up

>>163391187
Placed in today's kTOS maintenance, hopefully iTOS will get it before the week ends

>>163391123
>>163391275
what level is storage and maven? basically, what should i be doing past 230?

>>163391137

owls are good even at late game assuming your weapon progress too

the secret for owls are chapparition card. proc the effect, carve 2x owls. the owls snapshots your matk so you'll have boosted owls for the entire life of the statue. also druid 3

not sure if they fixed that,

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>>163391572
>Storage
https://tos.neet.tv/zones/1841
262

>Maven
https://tos.neet.tv/zones/2471
274

full exp at +-20 Lv now
after that -5% each Lv
50% at +-30 Lv


200-240 Alemeth
240-27x Storage
26x-29x Maven Abbey
28x-31x Timerys Temple

>what should i be doing past 230?
quest or grind Alemeth/Storage

>>163391137
If you want to just do damage Druid 3 is unbeatable, but for pvp it's popular to get diev 3>oracle>Kabbalist>inquisitor. One of the top players runs cleric 2 diev 3 Druid PD2 and he does a craplod of damage, he'll be resetting out of Druid for miko though when it's available.

>>163391932
thanks!

>>163392048
>tos
>TOP PLAYER

hahahaha what the fuck, there's less than 100 people that even do pvp and even less than that do "endgame" pve

>>163390946
>>163391275
>>163390878
>Each update they destroy the game more and more
How do they fucking manage to do this? Rank 8 was supposed to make everything more viable and have more options for fun as well as more content

>>163392201
Talking about Saintone, he's consistently high in pvp and made the guide for ET as well as having a very high tier weapon so I consider him a top player yeah.

>>163392048
>tfw iTOStards will fall for the miko meme
>all these pure virgin mikos I'll telepath into kissing me before sending them into my carnivory, storm calling, zaibas, creeping death charm pit of doom

>>163392306
The only problem with r8 is transedescence mechanic and silver inflation from 290 dung replacing the item based economy of 200/190. PvE has more viable specs but people still salty about Inq and dragoon 2 pvp damage.

>>163392306
Instead of adding more options for classes, they just narrow it even more by making the higher rank classes be the only ones that can overcome the retarded health pools and defense values of monsters as the game progresses.

This means that your early class choices mean LITERALLY DOG SHIT NOTHING, so you pick the highest utility classes or classes with buffs that scale (swift step crit rate, quick cast 50% damage, steady aim 10% damage, peltasta taunt/evasion, etc.). When R10 hits, your choices at R8 will be worthless, and you'll have to reroll AGAIN to choose utility choices for the first 9 ranks and then pick whatever rapenigger R10 class comes out.

>>163392306
>Rank 8 was supposed to make everything more viable and have more options for fun as well as more content
exactly the opposite happened

https://tos.neet.tv/skill-planner#41221bbbg.1a213a435561.1a213345516595.1f233f426575.44657581

>wanted to the build to become gaswizards incarnate
>you actually only need Inquis to remove wizard
>you'd be better off just getting oracle or pd instead of bothering with paladin resistance
>paladin's resistance isn't even fucking good

WHAT IS THE POINT OF PALADIN IMC???