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>INFORMATION & GUIDES
Latest patch: http://www.dota2.com/shiftingsnows/
New players: https://purgegamers.true.io/g/dota-2-guide/
Wiki: http://www.dota2.gamepedia.com/
Blog: http://blog.dota2.com/
Lore: http://dev.dota2.com/showthread.php?t=35923
Guides: http://steamcommunity.com/app/570/guides
Group: https://steamcommunity.com/groups/pottisdefenseforce
Our guy's personal Dotabuff: https://www.dotabuff.com/players/41231571
Cosmetic simulator: http://dotaloadout.com/
Competitive Scene: http://wiki.teamliquid.net/dota2/Main_Page

>STATISTICS
Competitive DOTA 2 analysis: http://www.datdota.com/
DOTA 2 analysis: http://www.dotametrics.wordpress.com/
Personal statistics: http://www.dotabuff.com/
Personal statistics#2: http://www.opendota.com/ (formerly yasp.co)
Hero stats: http://www.devilesk.com/dota2/heroes/herodata/
Hero and DPS calculator: http://www.devilesk.com/dota2/apps/hero-calculator/

>NEWS & STREAMS
http://www.joindota.com/
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meepo is bugged exploit it while you can
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is Crystal "Maiden" the most horrible title given to someone in dota land?
this "Maiden" doesnt look like a maiden to me , hell Lina the Slayer is more of a maiden compared to this slut.
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>>163323509
ALL PATHS LEAD TO CONFLICT
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previous thread
>>163298216
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12/20/2015
A date that will live in infamy

Also valve probably gonna give people punishment for abusing this
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>Latest patch: http://www.dota2.com/shiftingsnows/
>Gameplay Update 6.83

uh dotards?
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So did they fix your own Hero builds you created with the hero builder not showing up in the game or nah?
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>>163323486
will you get punished/vac for it?
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>>163323486
explain yourself
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>>163323434
>https://steamcommunity.com/groups/pottisdefenseforce
>leaving in the meme group
can nobody make ops properly holy shit
if I was autistic enough I'd go through the effort of making us an OP pastebin so we can avoid issues in the future
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How are Dota pick rates?
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>>163323634
of course not
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>getting a vac and losing your account just to gain 100 mmr with meepo glitch
not worth it senpai
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>>163323686
nobody even reads the op lmao
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>>163323598
How do you even do it?
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* Enchantress base intelligence increased by 3
* Enchantress Level 10 Talent increased from +15 Movement Speed to +20
* Enchantress Level 20 Talent increased from -25s Respawn Time to -30s
ROFL, Volvo is buffing fucking Enchantress now?
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What heroes benefit from the changes in Mask of Madness?
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>>163323509
YOU'VE GOT MY DANDER UP
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>>163323860
THE ONE TRUE KING
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>Its always a meepo bug
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>>163323860
Sven
Drow, if you don't care for Frost.
Juggernaut
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>>163323860
sven
the OTK
davion
drow
luna
sniper
space cow
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To that one anon that said his birthday was on the 21st like 2 weeks ago, happy birthday.
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75.7 MB update just now

Probably a hotfix for the bug
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>>163323860
its pretty decent on Lich, Wraith King, Sven
you need to only use it on heroes who can reliably cast their spells then not need to cast anything else in the next 8 seconds, and who don't need the movespeed to get in range to use their spells, even WK its kind of a liability for that
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>>163323509
>nose rings
real talk, why?
I can understand stupid shit like lip piercings but a fucking nose ring?
Why?
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>>163323509
whats with ppd and chicks with nose rings/tublr hair?
that girl is a carbon copy of his ex
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>>163324137
"fucking millennials"
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>5 DAYS BEFORE XMAS

5 DAYS BEFORE XMAS

>5 DAYS BEFORE XMAS

5 DAYS BEFORE XMAS

NYAHOOOOOOOOO

DOTURDS MERRY XMAS
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MEEPO EXPLOIT GOT FIXED
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>>163324154
ppd is a sjw cuck
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>>163323598
>Also valve probably gonna give people punishment for abusing this

that would mean valve actually working. since nothing besides MMR is lost valve won't give a shit just fix the bug and call it a day
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>>163324137
can you explain nipple or clit piercings then?
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>>163324192
you fucked up doturd
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why are your devs so fast at bugfixing dotards?
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>>163324217
Oh yea?
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>>163324137
t. basement dweller
try going out to bars bro or sumshit haha
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>>163324205
Whelp, back to MK dominating everyone and everything again.
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>>163324192
chotto matte a minute
you're not the cm poster

what the fuck dotards
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>check reddit
>no mention of the meepo bug at all
uhh???
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>>163324324
>less than 50% winrate
>dominateing
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>lost 4 game in a row while we are winning cause someone DC
>5 th game we got owned early but manage to cumback but Gaben said : NO It TIME FOR SERVER MAINTAINCE BITCH

For the fuck sake,valvle please get your shit together,every day pass and the game keep shittier fk
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>>163324319
>reddit filename
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>>163324443
You seem to be well acquainted with Reddit anon.
Got a confession to make?
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>>163324376
reddit deletes threads and comments about abusable bugs

there was a 78 mb patch about 10 minutes ago that fixed the meepo exploit, you can't do it anymore, too bad, you missed out on FREE MMR
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>>163324616
This is how I found the image.
I hope this brings you some comfort anon.
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>>163324379
Visage was sub 30%
ES was 43%
Arc Warden has never been above 40%

And they were nerfed, fuck off redditor mk-only picker.
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>>163324723
>download latest patch
>see "2x treant damage"
>go into lobby
>level 25 prophet with aghanims
>all the treants I spawn are still 550 HP
>the ones from natures call are 1100 HP

lmao its bugged and the talent doesn't even work right now
it only applies to greater treants from hero kills and natures call, not aghanims treants
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>>163324807
Visage wasn't sub 30 what a load of shit.
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>>163324750
I'm still running the old client

Haven't updated yet

How do I do this bug?
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>>163324807
I havn't picked even played him yet retard
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>>163324851
you dont and you can't
you need to be on the latest update to play matchmaking games
if its serverside you won't even notice the change
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>tfw to intelligent to play heroes of the legends 2
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>>163324723
CONSIDERING the fact you never actually kill heroes with Prophet's aghs like, ever, and the fact treants don't even last that long...
This is honestly a completely reasonable buff.

Besides, they have no fucking armour.
They still melt in two shots to a Sven past 20 minutes.
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http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=820108777

https://steamcommunity.com/workshop/filedetails/?id=760208500

I hope this stuff gets into the game.
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really makes you think
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>>163324791
>no gay sex with hats on
kys famalamalamadingdong
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>>163324963
what's the point of making a smaller HUD if they're going to make everything else fuckhuge
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>>163324791
anon, you do know it's their cuck manager that bought those caps so they could wear them ironically on stage?
also twitch in browser check yourself before you wreck yourself
also no tabs
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>>163324723
that's a beefy skelly
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AHAHAHAHA I FOUND A WAY TO INJECT THE ORIGINAL HUD VIA CLIENT SIDE

FUCK YOU VALVE
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>>163324901
no shit sherlock

I'm in a local bot game I just wanted to see it
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>>163324807
>Arc Warden has never been above 40%
He used to be 57% at one point in +5k
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>>163325128
>intentionally putting yourself at a disadvantage
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>>163325128
Vid or GTFO
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>>163324963
huh.... what did they mean by this....
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>>163325218
fuck off valve
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>>163325128
wanna share it with the class anon
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>>163325198
yeah why woould anyone play with the new hud?
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>meepo exploit
>fixed in an hour

>attributes missing
>lh/d and k/d/a still shoved in left corner
>heroes still don't load all their assets
>monkey king still too strong
>UI still dogshit
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>>163325198
>disadvantage
So having to re-learn where all the information is located is an advantage?
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>>163325263
not gamebreaking
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>>163325263
fucking this. instead of looking in one corner for vital info now i need to look at 3 different places. shit sucks.
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https://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/5ji27x/this_new_shop_sucks/

The dota team is so out of touch with the UI that not even reddit is defending this shit anymore
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>>163325242
WHAT THE FUCK
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Shit I missed the meepo exploit. How was it done?
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>>163325242
now if only we had some information to block out the middle part of the screen

then maybe we would overtake LoL in player numbers
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>>163325048
>also no tabs
what?

>>163325302
>So having to re-learn where all the information is located is an advantage?
This is like saying that you are at a disadvantage for playing on a newer patch because some things have changed and you don't know the implications of those changes
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>>163325380
dont worry, valve way ahead of you there
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>>163325363
Level 3
Get Clone
Buy Brown Boots
Sell Boots on clone.
Drop Boots on main meepo
Pick up boots on main meepo
Resell boots on clone.
Repeat until 2,000G
Buy Travels
Resell until 9 slotted

attack move to enemy ancient
afk
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>>163325380
Don't worry guys I've managed to contact my insider at valve and he's given me a sneak peak at the next UI
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>>163325412
>some things have changed and you don't know the implications of those changes
One thing is meta change and the other is muscle memory, your example falls flat. It would be like switching from legacy to qwer hotkeys
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>>163325507
>Buy Travels
>Resell until 9 slotted
objectively inefficient when you can buy travels 2 after the first travels sale and then make 4400 gold a pop instead of 2400
saves you those precious 10 seconds
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>>163324963
>>163325242
>make the hud smaller
>make everything else big worse than the old hud
how is it even possible to be this incompetent?
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I love how the new treants have 2k HP
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>>163325242
SOMEONE POST THIS TO REDDIT WITH A SNARKY COMMENT AND A CLEVER PASSIVE AGGRESSIVE TITLE ASAP
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>>163323509
ONE WORLD IS MUCH LIKE ANOTHER
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>>163325706
they did
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>>163325562
>not shadow fiend
one job
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https://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/5jiax0/meepo_hacker_please_report_to_valve_thanks/

kek
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>>163325487
Still can't believe they actually thought this shit was a good enough idea to roll onto the main client like what the fuck.

They literally just throw out any bullshit idea they think up of into the main client without even thinking, and then just change it in accordance to Reddit's response.
They don't test shit themselves AT ALL.
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>Ranked
>Team is feeding
>About to lose
>Not so fast
>Crash the game for everyone and it doesn't count

Glad Valve somehow reintroduced a bunch of old bugs that got fixed long ago
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>>163325708
WHAT IF I SAID YOUR NOT LIKE THE OTHER ONES
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>>163325858
but anon that would make sense
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>>163325576
Im sorry anon you go ahead and play the game however you want mmkay :)
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>>163325743
i dont see it cunt
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>>163325507
Lolwtf. I sure missed them free mmrs
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>>163323852
She still won't be picked
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>>163325562
Why are they so scared of using those spaces on the bottom? Are they planning to put ads on there or something?
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>>163326095
Adspace for streamers is important, anon.
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>>163325979
i see now
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Crystal """"""""""""""""""""Maiden""""""""""""""""""""
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>>163324137
>Why?
Some people think pigs are attractive, I guess.

(lol @ the "go to a bar" non-answer reply)
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>>163325892
how about next patch they add a blood splatter to the HUD whenever you take damage which points in the direction of the damage source? :^)
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When do peruvian cafes close
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>>163326207
This is slander
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>>163326275
what's that pic from?
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>>163326207
source?
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So I decided to watch a random LoL video to see what their shop looks like. I guess this is what valve is aiming for.

It sorta makes sense in LoL because I don't think they open up the shop unless they're dead or in the fountain since theres no courier
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>>163326398
cosplay shoot, with comissioned background done by some random artist
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Dotards?
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>>163326398
the new indiana jones movie that came out last year
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can anyone tell me if the australian servers are fixed?
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How'd Dota 2 go from having the best UI/Hud in the ARTS/MOBA/ASSFAGGOTS market to being the worst?
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>>163326468
holy shit that shop is ugly as fuck
as fucked as Valve is making things, at least we aren't league of legends
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>Nature's Prophet Level 25 Talent changed from +6 Treants to 2x Treants HP/Damage

Is lvl 25 NP good now?
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>>163326581
>retards at valve decide to try to get the LoL audience
>decide to dumb down and make a 1/1 copy of their UI
Theyre literally retarded if they think LoL players are going to play this shit
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>>163326685
his talent doesn't even work on aghanims treants from creeps, so no, he's awful
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>>163326637
>at least we aren't league of legends
not for long
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>>163326685
>3300 big treant
yes
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WHY THE FUCK DID THEY HAVE TO RUIN THE FUCKING SHOP OF ALL THINGS
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>mfw Techies is actually fun
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3a02Iz1gi9o
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>>163323598

>create private lobby with friends
>"enable cheats"
>post2gulag

BUGG MAPO LULZZ XD
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Just won a game where I couldn't buy anything from the start
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>>163326956
go sit in the retard corner
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>>163326956
refer to
>>163325873
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>>163326834
because it was one of the few unruined things left
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>play support in 2014
>be frustrating because bad game would mean 50 minute mek

>play support in 2016
>never ever behind thanks to valve holding my hand

i went from enjoying and appreciating the depth of dota 2 and feeling so satisfied coming back from a bad game to feeling empty and unfulfilled because every game is the same regardless of its a stomp in our favor or the enemies

Literally lost and one of the towers guarding ancients at minute NINE
and still came back and won
thanks valve


I never played heroes of the storm but im sure that even that game doesnt hold your hand as much as nuDota does.
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>>163326792
>get a 3300 super treant
>dazzle ult
>lich armor
>bloodseeker's Q
>can solo any tower with no creep help

DOTARDS...?
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>>163327087
dont forget ogre haste and troll warlod ult
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>>163327087
tfw clinkz 3.3k HP treant

yummyummy gimme that free rapier in my tummy
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>>163327087
>>163327170
>furion dazzle lich bloodseeker ogre troll
gee anon how come icefraud let you pick 6 heroes?
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CAN YOU GUYS stop invading and go back your hugbox at reddit?
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>>163327303
We had two priests on the team to mind control the enemy heroes
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>arteezy trying to get rid of the valve suggested items

rofl
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How do I play Donkey Kong
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>>163327356
Everyone knows there is a major competition between the top three e-sports, csgo, lol, and dota 2. But in my opinion dota 2 will outlast all of them. The first and probably most obvious reason is valves support. Just look at TI6 Prize pool, that money is all from the steam community market. Valve has LOTS AND LOTS of money and they are willing to support dota.

Another reason is because of dotas every changing meta, every update changes the meta in one way or another. Even the pros have lots to learn, there are 119 (I think???) heroes in the game and they all have different mechanics and abilities that you have to learn, not to mention all the different items in the shop.

Icefrog, lets admit it, Icefrog is probably the best game (manager?) of all time, it is said if another game had icefrog it would be in dotas place. That man knows his shit. Although you make question his balance changes and decisions they always work out. Dota 7.00 is out and going strong, so he obviously hasnt fucked up to badly.

My final arguement is micro management, the amount of micro management in dota is insane, while this may seem bad when you first think about it, it really isnt. The more micro skills needed the harder the game is and the more mechanical skiil you need. Which allows for lots of improvements and neat techniques, like I just recently learned about triple stacking with batrider. Dota's ever changing meta is really helping it grow.
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>>163327087
how feasible are the new treants with no buffs anyway

they get quadruple the siege potential of dps*ehp with his talent.
For normalizing armor types, treants deal 70% to towers, towers deal 100% to treants.

so a normal 1100 HP 0 armor 64 damage treant has 1100 EHP, 25.6 DPS to a tower
a tier 3 tower has 3712 EHP, 160 DPS to the treants

would it really only take 2 greater treants from hero kills to down a tier 3 tower?
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>half the post have reddit spacing
rip d2g
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>>163327452
>CSGO
>top 3

More like only Dota 2 and LoL
and Dota will definitely outlast LoL because they don't change their game enough - at least Valve is doing stuff and changed the client UI framework.

I will never fucking respect an FPS where people literally cheat their way to the top as an e-sport or competitive game, the amount of cheaters the game even has is insane/
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>>163327518
wtf is "reddit spacing"
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>whoever designed this (talking about the shop UI while he was editing his custom builds) doesn't play the game
-arteezy

valve blown the fuck out
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>>163327401
Step 1: filename
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>>163327452
shut the fuck icefrog

I dont think nerfing every hero that required skill is good balancing and then reintroducing memeball with extremely inflated gold and xp so retarded 0.1k redditors can buy more hats
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>Liquid get bodied by Meepo in 20 minutes

So is Meepo good?
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>>163327590
You see a post you don't like? Say it has reddit spacing.
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>>163327590
posting

like

this

you

see
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>>163327681
you mean leaving a blank line between paragraphs? that is just basic formatting and has nothing to do with reddit. it makes posts more readable, you fucking dullard.

>>163327631
i see.
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>>163327631
That's only applicable to posts with reddit spacing
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>Pit lord is completely OP in 7.00
>No one talks about him
He's a free win right now.
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>>163327569
>and Dota will definitely outlast LoL because they don't change their game enough
They (Riot) never stop fucking around with it and changing things. It's just that none of their changes are interesting, and you still have to play every hero in their designated lane, and play your designated role exactly as intended. Or you will be reported and banned.
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Am I slowpoke, or have you dotards not seen this yet.

http://store.steampowered.com/news/26467/
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>>163327854
7.01? I thought we were still on 6.83 according to the OP
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+50 damage at level 10 means CM becomes the ultimate gank partner as she'll be hitting harder than most late game carries at that point. Paired with Ogre's Bloodlust or Troll's Battle Trance, she could walk our of teamfights with triple kills easily.
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>>163327772
>trench lord
>useful for anything
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>>163327772
How is he OP? The only reason I ever desired to play him was Slark counter
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>>163327087
DEVOUR
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>>163327973
this is NOT a loli
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>>163327818
Not only that but when emergent gameplay comes out they ACTIVELY STIFLE any attempts to change the meta.

>This hero is intended for one role but someone figures out that they're really good at something else too
>Riot nerfs the crap out of the build until it's worthless
>Try to do a roaming support meta
>Riot nerfs gold gain from kills

It's like SJW in game format.
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Why do I see shitty Meepo pickers coming out of their woodworks since the 7.00 update in my 4.5k bracket. Fuckers wouldn't dare picking him in the first phase and I'll only see 1 Meepo per week. Now I see almost like one every day. Did the small buffs really made him viable?
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>>163327772
Shhh, don't tell the dotards.
>>
NYAWHOOOOO DOTURDS

NYAHOYNYAHOYNYAHO

;3

>5 DAYS BEFORE XMAS

5 DAYS BEFORE XMAS

>5 DAYS BEFORE XMAS

5 DAYS BEFORE XMAS
>>
Barn burner of a pub on NA right now.
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>>163327973
They changed Pit of Malice so it keeps rooting every 3 or so seconds. Position it right, and combine it with other stuns and it's practically a guaranteed kill.

Their other option is to move further out of position to try and avoid the root and they'll die that way too.

He also wins all trades, even in the offlane thanks to his passive.

If by some miracle you LOSE your lane, he can farm the shit out of the jungle camps.
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>>163327929
>has the #3 winrate in 5k+
>keeps getting picked in pro games

hmmmm.
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>>163328054
>>163328054
>Did the small buffs really made him viable?
Very much so.

Stronger early game now, much stronger. Hits his peak even quicker and easier.
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>>163328040
yeah we can reasonably state that a company that actually gives us things like "+150 damage lich" or "phantasm casts on allies" or "+2 searing chains duration and -15% cooldowns" isn't trying to peg its players into a single playstyle and tell them how they're allowed to play

so valve might shit on us with gui and jew the everloving shit out of their users with compendiums, but at least they aren't fucking cocknigger dickwad pieces of shit like riot
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>>163328296
With that one space between your post I can't see if you're from reddit or from 9gag
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>>163328296
Unfortunately, their main source of feedback is leddit, whom are mainly ex-League peasants that retained their pathological hatred of fun.
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>>163328356
some people legitimately prefer a single line of spacing between posts
which looks better than run together walls of text
its not very good looking to have text clumped up
and it makes it a chore to read it

but if you do, sometimes you can put a space between paragraphs. But then its still awful if you write long lines without any $newline so you wind up with word wrap as it looks god awful and it keeps going on and on and forces people to read to the far side of a page in order to see the words as they have to move their head and not eyes depending on view angle, but point being that its cancerous as fuck and nobody wants to have to read through that shit so get over yourself and accept that there are some people who enjoy decent formatting on their posts and some of them are in this very thread right now so get used to it.
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>>163328356
>from 9gag
wait hol up that shit is still alive?
>>
REMOVE VALVE FROM DOTA
MAKE DOTA GREAT AGAIN
WE WILL NOT SURRENDER TO THE FALSE SONG OF ACCESSIBILITY
REMOVE NON-ENGLISH SPEAKERS FROM USW AND USE
RESTORE OUR GAMES ONCE GREAT UI
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What hero should I spam in pubs to climb MMR?
I was thinking about omniknight.
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>dubu freaking out like the banter's serious
These are the people that go
>NADOTOTOODDOTOTOO LUL

They don't get it's a joke.
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this new ui

is quite

terrible
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Why are all my fucking carries buying hotd nowadays? Are they just blindly copying Fear/RTZ? Every game has been a hotd carry, even on heroes that aren't sven/luna. I'm seeing shit like hotd slark, pl, drow and night lover
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New lycan is busted right? Every game I've seen him in/played as has been a 20-30 minute shit show. He's even really good in the offlane with all that regen.

He literally has a 40 second cd hand of god.
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>>163328479
Wtf I love reddit spacing now
>>
What the fuck is even the point of Ursa other than Rosh killer? Everything about him is just terrible. MK is a better one trick pony than he is.
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>>163328587
treant with oov
abbadon with oov
support ck with blight stone
undying with oov
ogre with oov

omni with ovv is legit as well
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>>163328675
neutral bros are now more reliable since it gives 420 ms
>>
>ctrl+f reddit
>33 instances of reddit
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>>163328771
also you can heal them in le blizzard fountains
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>>163328771
>420 ms
DUDE
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>>163328878
I mean it's not like /vg/ has mods
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>>163328702
Got nerfed.

* Howl cooldown increased from 50/45/40/35 to 55/50/45/40
* Howl manacost increased from 15/20/25/30 to 30
* Lycan Level 10 Talent reduced from +20 Damage to +15 Damage
* Lycan agility gain reduced from 1.9 to 1.5

Still good though.
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>>163328709
because pub shitters don't stay away from him
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>>163328709
There's literally no reason to ever pick MK over Ursa
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>>163328941
>redditfags literally dont know anything about mods
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>>163328971
still really good tbqh, the agi nerf hurts though
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>>163329005
What if I want to win?
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>>163329036
Ursa is your go-to
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>playing against lategame techies
what the fuck icefrog
I thought this hero was about traps and mines not fucking screenwide artillery
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>>163329005
MK
>has higher attack range, mobility, teamfight and a stun.

Ursa
>higher physical burst and durability
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Great, fucking great. I knew this would fucking happen. I JUST KNEW THIS WOULD HAPPEN. Reddit would keep complaining and complaining about Monkey King because they're so incompetent and too terrible to learn how to play so instead of learning how to better themselves and learning how to counter the hero; they just bitch and whine everyday for the entirety of the patch until the hero gets absolutely fucking gutted. 50% Win rate? OVER THE FUCKING LINE NERF HIS ASS BECAUSE I DONT KNOW HOW TO KITE OR AVOID LETTING HIM HIT ME FOUR (4) TIMES IN A FUCKING ROW.

This is absolutely absurd and now the hero is almost unplayable. G fucking G valve, why the fuck would you listen to the lowest common denominator... 2k Redditors DONT MATTER.
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>>163329208
Nice try MK spammer
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>Be you
>Wake up
>See this
What do?
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>>163329269
Die Creeps Die Die Die Fuckers Die
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>>163329150
I want a Starcraft Seige Tank hero now.

Speed Boost, Mode Swap, Passive (can shot and move at same time), giant fucking cannon can be like gyro call down
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>>163329269
pat head
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Its a "hotd rush is balanced" episode
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>>163329250
I'm still going to be shitting on players like you (aka players who can't see the giant fucking number notifications on your head for jingu and try to man fight me)
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>>163329309
steam tank ultimate was going to be kinda like that if icefrog had ever added it instead of just being in the betatest maps
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>>163329269
Wonder why she has my MKB and kill her for +45 gold
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>>163329386
what the hell is the R and L collumn
>>
>>163329497
Role, Lane
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>>163329497
(R)ole
(L)ane
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>>163329510
>>163329512
wtf we league now??
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>>163329269
Pick beastmaster for some adoptive big brother pushing together.

>>163329386
HotD will likely stay as good as it is because it no longer builds in to a good lategame carry item and making actual good use of it has always been beyond the capacity of most dota players.
>>
>my carry refuses to buy detection because that's a """""""""""support job"""""""""""
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>>163329560
It's some autodetection bullshit
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>Almost 2017
>Party MMR is still a thing, and abusable
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>>163329443
that bio is filed with too many memes
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>>163329208
>>163329402
>3k shitter mad that his free MMR is gone
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>>163329629
you forgot
>and still completely irrelevant
nobody gives a fuck about your party mmr friend
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>>163329560
That's DOTABUFF you retard
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>>163329709
It's still free wins against idiots like you, but I can guarantee you're all going to keep bitching until he's unplayable because you don't know how to kite.
>>
>main silencer
>go up 700 mmr
>stop playing silencer
>go down 700mmr
Explain this dotards
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>>163329716
>Be any MMR over 2000
>Lose 10 games in a party
>Sub 1000 party MMR
>Queue with friends for free wins because the game thinks 1000 Party MMR is more important than 5000 solo
You fucking moron
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>>163329560
It looks at how you played for the first 10-15 minutes and decides whether you played in a lane vs roaming or jungling, and whether you were playing as a support vs a core. Its just an analytical tool made by dotabuff to improve its use as an actual source of good data for your games, it has nothing to do with anything else other than what an algorithm thought you were doing at the time.
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>>163329813
wow you get to play 1k mmr pubs

why not just play vs bots
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>>163323548
Why do you keep lambasting this pure woman I mean she is probably still a virgin as she's unmarried, what's wrong with you? Stop posting this shit.
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>>163323598
but a year only has 12 months...
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>>163329806
Idiots can't handle being orb harassed in lane.
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For what reason they nerfed visage? This kneejerk nerf is far worse than 4hit->3hit nerf. Literally you just get two aoe nukes to kill my 150 second cooldown ultimate.
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Which WC3 unit did you guys want to have as a hero?

Pic related.
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>10 years of balance leads to the most perfect patch in 6.88
>Throw everything out the window
>>
>attributes hidden because "you don't need to see it the entire fucking time -___-"

>meanwhile giant fucking TALENT TREE you look at 4 times per game takes up as much space as hero pane
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>>163330103
obsidian statue and destroyer if you get my meme
>>
>tfw every game in 4k lasts an hour
>even when you snowball and shit on the enemy it takes forever to push all 3 racks

Holy shit, this is unbearable. People respawn way too fast and everyone, even the supports, have buyback at all times
>>
>>163330083
because a hero that was garbage was made playable and we can't have that
>>
>tune into ixmike stream
>he's losing badly

Every god damn time
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>>163330083
>For what reason they nerfed visage?

Winrate spiked up nearly 8% between last patch and 7.00
He has a the #2 winrate in 5k+

Literally overbuffed.
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>>163330103
The lobster men and a dragonkin, even though that kinda treads on the feet of Pit Lord and was also an ancient apparently.
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>>163330220
Respawn talents shouldn't exist. Every Spirit Breaker game he hits 20 and that -40 seconds just means he comes rushing out of the base all the time. Doesn't matter if he fed gold he's up and has a chain-stun and BKB piercing ultimate to just focus your core hero.
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River is toxic antigame antidesign.
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>le epico carry omni on my team
>up against a lane with 3 different slows and 3 different stuns
>ask him why he doesnt have a single point in repel after his lane 0/4 by 9 minutes
>he gets angry with me
i just dont get it sometimes
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>>163330389
The year is 2027. All of dota2 has finally seen the light of the cabal. There are no lanes anymore. Melee and Ranged Creeps do not spawn. There is only one giant jungle across the map.
Heros do not do battle head to head like raw savages. They mathematically optimize every single part of their gameplay and build and are rated by judges on style and contrarianism. The judge panel is known as the "gulag", for reasons which have been lost in the sands of time, along with the TI4 afterparty.
The victor takes the spoils of war by creating high quality webm's of the fruit of his superior mental skill and effort
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>>163330103
>>
Why the fuck are people still going Treads on Enchantress? This hero hits 500 movespeed with Phase Boots, and people would rather slowmotion Sproink with their 380 ms that can't catch anyone?
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>>163330103
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Only 9 inches?
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>>163330564
>hero has no hp, high movespeed, an orb, and a massive slow
>"why do some people prefer treads?"
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>>163330631
Mom told me girth is more important than length
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>>163330631
How do you guys like thjis ui?
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>>163330328
His winrate is only so high because no one knows how to deal with him in pubs. Even before 7.00 his winrate in 5k+ was 52%.
>>
>>163325921
how to?
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>>163330564
hp, attspd, treadswitch
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>>163330693
>380 ms with treads
>"high movespeed"
Good luck catching anyone with that build, slowpoke.
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>>163330729
Now it's at 57% in 5k+, he's clearly been made too strong along with his birds.

If you don't play in high brackets then your perception of balance is almost guaranteed to be false.

The average in this general has to be around 3k - 3.5 judging by the 'opinions' I see around here.
>>
>>163330564
Attack speed is incredibly important on not-AGI heroes who want to right click as they can't build AGI items to supplement attack speed and damage.
>>
Have any pros tried putting the carry and support in the offlane and the offlaner in the safelane yet?
>>
>>163331187
It's called aggro dual or aggro tri lane... ugh lolbabies...
>>
>>163331187
That shit happens in like 50% of pro games dude.
Shit pro games have solo carries on both off lanes and just do 3v3 mid.

Dota's a great game innit.
>>
>pro dota
>carries get complete isolated free farm

>me dota
>viper undying offlane

what can I do
>>
>>163331325
Abandon and try again love
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>>163331325
pick monkey dick
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>>163331325
swap lanes with your offlaner
abandon lane and resort to farming up jungle instead
etc

strong early game heroes like that are just that, strong early game. they fall off later.
the most important part against those sort of heroes is just to not feed them an advantage and focus on farming. it's worth giving up an early T1 tower if it means not feeding them.
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Hey retards 5.7k support player here looking to get into coaching. starting for free until I get a better feel for it HMU
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>Be a carry player
>Haven't had an actual game as a carry in a while because retards keep first picking cores and stealing my lanes, forcing me into a support role despite the fact I called carry first
>and I'm a shit support
I'm tempted to just start first picking my core role from now on, but then I'll just be counter picked.
What do I do, dotards?
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>>163330703
That's what Tresdin is talking about ;)
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>6% spell amp
t-thanks icefrog
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Remember to stay hydrated /d2g/!
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>Tusk turn rate improved from 0.5 to 0.7
AWWWWWWWW YISSSS.

TUSK IS BACK BOYS!
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did they nerf le monkey king yet?
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>>163331718
He got a slap on the wrist.
>>
What's agood relaxing stress free easy to play here that lets me just right click shit to death with maybe the occasional q or r? I just want one relaxing game before the in laws come over
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>>163331835
I'll start playing again once he's removed
>>
>>163331843
wraith king
>>
>>163331843
Sounds like you want Dragon Knight

Also his 2x Dragon Blood at level 25 is pretty broken
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What if all the shitty ui stuff is coming from the chink communities?

What if they are literally asking for this shit to be added?
>>
what is om telotet om?
>>
>>163332016
But the new shop makes it harder to sell your rice
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>UI STILL garbage
>probably wont be fixed until after christmas
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>>163332224
it'll be done in 6 months
>>
Treant sux balls now you can't invis your allies to set up a multiman ambush anymore :(
>>
>>163332329
>sux
> :(
>>>/reddit/
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>>163331615
>submissive bitch
>carry player
Don't joke with us you twink
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>>163331682
At least you get spell amp. I get 100 damage to a nuke that falls off after 25 minutes and 50% more heal that becomes useless when I'm at full hp.
>>
>>163332376
Who is this? Is this a new hero?
>>
Let's all stop the flaming, toxicity and the outright hurtful posts. Dota 2 is a great game let's keep it positive guys
>>
>>163331835
Eh, he got nerfed pretty hard in all honesty. His level 7 burst is down to 500 damage instead of 700. That should at least balance out the retarded mid and HC players picking him just so they can roll face on their keyboard and get free kills. MK is still going to be overpowered as FUCK when played as a roamer though, considering how strong his 4 second, 40% slow is compared to other roamers (there's a reason BH and Riki got their slows nerfed).
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>>163332376
poor pugna will never be relevant
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>>163332412
Yes, it's you
>>
>>163332376
You can heal your allies for +50% though. They're forcing pugna into a support role.

>>163332430
We keep it honest and redpilled
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>>163324007
What meepo bug?
>>
>>163332430
Go back to your plebbit "safespace" if you can't handle the heat.
>>
>>163332536
There was like a 2 hour period after 7.01 where you could sell your boots on Meepo's clones for infinite money
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On a scale of Viper to Meepo what would you rate Monkey King's difficulty
>>
>>163332580
PA
>>
>>163332576
AHahahahahah
>>
>>163328515
you mean as opposed to before lmao
>>
>>163332626
yeah all you had to do was hit level 3 and you had infinite gold within about 20 seconds
buy 5 hearts and travels or eblades or blink hex or whatever floats your boat, and fill in the backpack with necro3 for good measure, or build 6 rapiers and die and give them to your allies (you only spend like 10 seconds death at level 3, so you could do it a bunch of times)
>>
>>163332580
Ursa.
>>
>>163332737
WHY DID THEY FIX THIS?
Considering how meepo is only played by a few people like me, this would be our little gift.
>>
>>163331613
Add me family. I need serious help getting out of 2k.
Steamcommunity.com/id/thelephant
>>
>>163332580
wraith king
>>
Friendly reminder that your BASE is under attack.
>>
>>163332580
Razor
>>
>>163332843
I'm in ur base killin ur doods
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>>163332825
3 minute 6 slotted and ancient dead at 6 minutes was kind of ridiculous
>>
>ixmike's early game goes really fucking well
>still loses
He can't catch a break
>>
>>163332376
>I get 100 damage to a nuke that falls off after 25 minutes

It damages buildings which is invaluable, especially since you can hit both rax at once when the tier 3 is down.

With the +100 damage Nether Blast does 188 damage to them.

Then if you get lens and the +100 range talent you can do this from pretty far away.
>>
So is there any reason to buy linkens on AM now that he has aghs?
>>
>>163332937
nope
>>
>>163332937
2 LINKENS?
>>
>>163332937
Does aghs not block certain spells linkens would? or is it pretty much superior in every way aside from not containing a perseverance
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>>163332937
FREE Linkens and Lotus
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What went wrong with s4?
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>>163332937
Depends, some spells are still bit fucked with interaction with it

>>163333094
It blocks and reflects any single target spell casted on you but some spells are bit bugged in interaction with it so you should be careful
>>
>doesn't block duel, only reflects it
What happens if you get fresh-meated?
>>
>>163332937
Nope, especially since Aghs reflects the upgrade version of an ability if it has one.
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>>163333141
holy fuck the resemblance is uncanny
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>>163333176
duel doesn't interrupt duel because its not a channeling spell, it stacks both ways
dismember interrupts dismember, so casting it on a lotus hero just blocks it like it was linkens
>>
>>163333176
Dont listen to >>163333240, he doesnt know shit
When you get dueled, you reflect aghs version of duel and block lc's, so only you can damage lc and she can damage you, like aghs duel does
As for dismember, he doesnt eat you but you eat him
>>
>>163331613
Yeah sure add chickenweiner. could use the boost out of 2k not that i'm bad just need help on my carrying skills i guess.
>>
>>163331613
Coaching is broken though
>>
>>163332915
Yeah that's a nice slow siege there. What I'm really talking about is teamfight DAMAGE. And pugna doesn't have that. Hes literally like necro.
>>
>>163333141
Alliance shit the bed after TI3
>>
OK /d2g/,

I want your raw, honest, unadulterated opinions on:

>Talents and the leveling system as a whole
>The new map
>The new UI
>Monkey King
>Valve and the direction they're heading
>NA Dota
>Arteezy
>Sing Sing
>AdmiralBulldog
>Chi Long Qua
>>
>>163333521
>It's great pretty close to balanced
>Eh. Still feels weird, feels more open to roam with more tree hiding spots
>Shit. My Jolly roger HuD blocks the mini map base spawn so i can't see if courier is at base or not forcing me to use the regular
>Downhill
>i don't watch pro sports
>
>
>
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>>163333521
>>Talents and the leveling system as a whole
10/10
>>The new map
0/10
>>The new UI
2/10
>>Monkey King
6/10
>>Valve and the direction they're heading
0/10 deathball rubberband memefight anti-farming anti-carrying
>>NA Dota
4/10 because I am a EE fan
>>Arteezy
0/10 turn him into a full-time streamer
>>Sing Sing
Memes/10
>>AdmiralBulldog
Stormfag/10
>>Chi Long Qua
10/10
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>>163329208
>can no longer drop a 800 physical damage AoE nuke at level 2
>WAAAAH FUCKING 2k MMR REDDITORS RUINED MY LIFE
t. 3k MMR gulag shitter
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>>163333521
>>Talents and the leveling system as a whole
Memefight has only gotten worse every patch. Dota is dead.
>the new map
Memefight
>new UI
I don't want to renew my license so let's shit something out we made for ourselves really quick
>Valve
Memefight
>NA Dota
PPD literally paid money for EG rofl
>Arteezy
Hates memefight but keeps playing because dota is all he has
>Sing Sing
Finally admitted to himself he's a hack
>Bulldog
literally /pol/ with one foot out of the closet
>clq
Abandoned being funny for milking money from youtube + donations
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>>163333431
>What I'm really talking about is teamfight DAMAGE

He has Nether Ward and suckysucky.

Thanks to aether lens he can hide that shit easier in the trees.
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>>163333521
>>Talents and the leveling system as a whole
Interesting but underdeveloped and needs like a year of tuning
>>The new map
Clusterfuck
>>The new UI
Needs way more tuning
>>Monkey King
Just annoying
>>Valve and the direction they're heading
Hopefully into the shitter
>>NA Dota
>>Arteezy
>>Sing Sing
>>AdmiralBulldog
>>Chi Long Qua
memes
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>>163333741
>people disrespecting nether wards
I've gotten a few pick up kills/ kills after a friendly team wipe that cause the enemy team wipe because shitters forget about it.
>>
how do I get my gpm up as a support?

even though i tend do well(good kda, always warding, setting up plays, etc) I'm always really low gpm.

should I be farming the jungle or something?
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>>163333521
>Talents
I like the idea but a lot of the talents are arbitrary/boring, there should be less stats and more ability changes.
>Map
Fun but it could use a few tweaks in places.
>UI
Honestly a pain in the ass.
>Monkey Trouble
Cool design but the numbers are just stupid, at this rate he's gonna need like five more patches to be reasonable.
>Valve
All of their problems come down to their management structure, if employees don't feel like doing anything they don't, and the only way they can get fired is through peer evaluation and they probably always give each other gold stars.
>NA Dota
A fucking joke overall.
>Arteezy
The worst, I hope he dies or at least quits so he stops ruining teams.
>SingSing
Meh.
>AdmiralBulldog
Meme.
>Chi Long Qua
Don't care.
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>>163333521
>Talents and the leveling system as a whole
Love it!
>The new map
Love it!
>The new UI
Love most of it! CS needs to be moved to the bottom-right and the shop change is absolutely terrible and needs to be reverted. Other than that though, love it!
>Monkey King
Literally League-tiers of broken but mostly just punishes retards. I don't see Monkey King ending out games consistently in 5k+ MMR.
>Valve and the direction they're heading
Very questionable. I actually legitimately hope Dota lasts another 10 years because at this rate I dunno what'll happen. I think I'm one of the few people here that actually wants esports to succeed.
>NA Dota
Entertaining as fuck to watch from a distance but cancerous as fuck to participate in.
>Arteezy
He's alright. Wish he'd stream more.
>Sing Sing
I'm worried he's depressed. He puts up with a lot of shit on his stream.
>AdmiralBulldog
He's alright. I'm subbed to him with my free Twitch prime sub.
>Chi Long Qua
Wasn't he advertising a "REAL VOICE STREAM!!!" a bit ago? That kind of sums up his character quite nicely.
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>>163323434
>MK still literally hits me and 2 of my team-mates for 1800 in a second from off-screen
t-thanks
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>>163330220
>People respawn way too fast and everyone, even the supports, have buyback at all times
welcome to your favorite new Hero Brawler Arena game :)))
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>>163330564
>>163330897
t. numbfuck with 1k tier positioning skills
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>>163333741
That's all old news from 6.88. I want new buffs.
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>>163333521

>Talents and the leveling system as a whole
Talents - whatever. They're an interesting idea but on the whole not really necessary. I really wish they'd kept stats around because now it's literally no longer possible to play early stats builds which is a huge nerf to some heroes.

>The new map
The new Rosh pit and the new location of the Dire secret shop wig me the fuck out. The Rosh thing especially feels really League.

>The new UI
Absolutely hate it. Several HUD skins are now essentially useless and the whole thing is just garbage.

>Monkey King
Needs balancing, right now he feels like an all or nothing hero. Also playing him literally doesn't feel like I'm playing DotA.

>Valve and the direction they're heading
Very concerned desu. I hope the next major sells next to no compendiums so they can finally realize people are not happy with the way this game is headed.

>NA Dota
Completely dead, killed by ego. No leaders whatsoever.

>Arteezy
Burned out, will never win a TI.

>Sing Sing
Hate him desu, could never understand why he got so popular because there's literally nothing interesting or entertaining about his stream.

>AdmiralBulldog
Our guy.

>Chi Long Qua
Our guy, I like that he's branching out beyond DotA.
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This is their end game.
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>>163333521
>Talents and the leveling system as a whole
Started off hating it, kind of like it now.
>The new map
Still getting used to.
>The new UI
Bad.
>Monkey King
Overpowered, like the hero concept.
>Valve and the direction they're heading
Don't like it.
>NA Dota
>Arteezy
>Sing Sing
>AdmiralBulldog
>Chi Long Qua
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>>163334221
good

fighting games are better, anyway. no team shitters can blame and it demands actual skill rather than blindly following an item guide and hitting npc's for 90 minutes
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>>163324040
Reminder to the anon in case he missed it. Happy birthday.
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>>163324040
>>163334592
Are you serious or?
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>>163334619
?
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>>163334643
Did that really happen or? If so, i wanna tell him happy bday as well..
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>>163334689
9m retarded olol :)
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>>163333521
>>Talents and the leveling system as a whole
kinda cool.
>>The new map
annoying honestly
>>The new UI
stupid
>>Monkey King
not fun
>>Valve and the direction they're heading
everything they do is buggy
>>NA Dota
im an ancap
>>Arteezy
good stream
>>Sing Sing
not rly funny
>>AdmiralBulldog
meh
>>Chi Long Qua
who?
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>>163333521
All of it is garbage.
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>>163334828
What??
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>>163334974
YOU CANT HURT ME JACK
>>
>Good change, more depth than stats and can finally justify making heroes more than 2 useful abilities
>Whatever
>Still needs work
>Good concept, dindu stack duration was far too long at first, not sure if it's low enough now but it's a good step
>Incredibly vague, if you mean making kills more valuable than farming then that's a good thing given how it's harder to kill a player than a stack of jungle creeps
>Meme-tier, I say this as someone in NA
>Overrated but not complete trash
>Lives off his legacy with streams, can't play t1 Dota anymore and jews his fanbase to maintain financial stability
>Good guy, but his playstyle is awful to watch
>Addresses a lot of issues that aren't brought up, but really overdoes the act
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>monkey king was destroyed
only took like a week wtf doturds?
>>
whenever i take a deep inhale, there is a squeezing pain below my nip. am i dead, /d2g/?
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>>163335335
>his 800 AoE nuke at level 2 was reduced to a 500 AoE nuke at level 2
>"nerfed"
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You've thought of this at least once haven't you dota players?
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>>163335335
>now kills everything in 3 hits instead of 2

yeah...destroyed..
>>
>doom got some shitty talent buffs
ok i guess.
midas doom?
im trying it out

you used to get blink dagger when you could actually kill people. now i think buying shadow blade on him might be in order. or a force staff
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>>163323598
By any chance, were you the one that did this?
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>>163335620
he had like an 8% jump in winrate i wouldnt say thats "no reason"
also the nerfs were pretty insubstantial
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>>163335628
reminder that this is the actual, honest to god attitude of the league community, because riot games does not understand WHY any of dota's mechanics work they way they do, or the consequences thereof in the gameplay, so they threw hallow copies of those same mechanics into the game and then said "if you dont follow these youre not playing the game right"
>need smite to buy the jungling items
>you MUST queue to play in the traditional laning setup or you are reported en masse
>no off-meta role choices like support singed or enjoy your ban buddy

league fucking SUCKS so much goddamn reading this post reminded me how much i hate it
t former plat league player
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>>163335628
If item stacking is illegal why doesn't the game prevent you from doing it? Is Riot THAT bad at coding?
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can someone redpill me on good mids this patch
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>>163335968
i hear the uninstall button is very hot with mids this season
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>>163335968
OD
It's always fucking OD
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>>163334619
>>163334689
He did, I can't find the post because fireden is broke and I don't really want to look through the regular archive, it might not even be there.
It was around the time 7.00 came out, or maybe the day before it came out
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>Arteezy already found his mmr farming hero
stream ruined
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>>163336114
i mean jugg has been this strong for months
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>>163336109
Well then happy bday anon! Wish you all the best!
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>invoker has been meta for like 2 years
>gets nerfed
>10 days later gets buffed again

>visage has been a dogshit hero since forever
>gets buffed to be good
>10 days later gets nerfed again
S T O P
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>>163336614
shit meme heroes should stay shit like techies fun champs like invoker should always be meta
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Talents are neat
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>>163336614
not my fault I was born perfect.
t. Carl
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>Lycan already back into unusable dogshit territory with retarded mana nerfs.
gg frog
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was my build good?
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>checking patch notes
>* Nature's Prophet Level 25 Talent changed from +6 Treants to 2x Treants HP/Damage
HAHAAHHAHAHAH AHA HASdh adas
Rip 6 treants
>>
>Bulldog twitch meme affects DOTA 2 balance
Nice fucking game faggots lfmao-
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>>163336954
But is it as good as +6 treants?
>>
>>163336935

Not a fan of "semi-carry" style SB myself. I prefer to build him as an aura carrier after treads and blademail. Echo is situational.
>>
Could you get away with Phase Boots on AM if you go the maelstrom build?
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>>163337002
no he needs the stats from treads
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these fucking mongoloids on the other team put weaver offlane, alch jungling, mk mid instead of laning alch mid, mk offlane, and putting a trilane bot with support weaver

i thought 5ks were supposed to be good
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post secret pro strats
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>>163337002
He needs the health and mana from treads, especially since you can't do the 1/1/1/stats build now
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>>163337002
No, you dumbfuck. You build Bfury in part because it gives you mana regen. How does skipping your mana regen item somehow justify not going for the boots that maximize your mana efficiency? If anything, you need Treads ten times more without Bfury because without Tread switching you can blink four fucking times and then you're out of mana.
>>
How is best king this patch? I haven't played since before TI5.
>>
How can I make it so that shop icon doesn't open a fucking DOG SHIT GUIDE but the actual shop
>>
I have a few extra shekels in my valvegoy account after selling some cards and TF2 junk.

What's a cool set to buy?
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>Not a single big monkey king nerf'

HAHAH VALVE
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7.01 just shows you that Icefrog has absolutely no say in this new patch.

>UI made even worse
>Incredibly kneejerk reactionary nerfs after a week of a patch

Is dota DAMAGED?
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>>163337353
whine on reddit until valve changes it
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>>163337740
It's sad how this has become the solution to all problems now.
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>>163337650
Are you fucking retarded?
This patch reeks of every single icefrog patented shitty toolbox there ever was

>Reddit/dota-allstars/playdota/dotabuff has said that this hero is too strong
>Therefore I'm giving it -1 armor and -5 movespeed

>I know that this hero's Q skill is broken as fuck and totally gamebreaking and no minor number change could fix it
>Therefore I raise his W mana cost by 15

Thats the hallmark of icefrog right there. Any time you see a laundry list of minor +x -y changes where individually they're totally insignificant and could never change the outcome of a game, instead of gigantic slashes

Just look at what he did to ember spirit over the course of like 10 patches. Slightly increased mana costs. -1 armor. +5 cooldown. -2 strength. +50 mana costs. etc etc
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how will you lads spend your Christmas?
I think I'm gonna play dotes all day, get some KFC and I'm all good.
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>>163337610
* Fixed Jingu Mastery ignoring armor for its lifesteal calculation
* Jingu Mastery counter duration reduced from 15 to 10 seconds
* Boundless Strike critical strike rescaled from 200% to 140/160/180/200%

???
>>
Why is the new patch called 7.01 instead of 7.00a? Is this really icefrog balancing?
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>>163337610
>3-shots instead of 2-shots
Those Arcanas are still selling anon, now is not the time to nerf him appropriately.

Wish he'd throw him in ranked for a week so changes actually happen instead of making normals a fucking shitshow 24/7
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>>163337915
I think you forget that this change took 2 weeks and your autistic little screencap took 4 years you stupid piece of shit.

Now go drool on your keyboard somewhere else, you brain damaged neet.
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>>163337951
>KFC
Nigga at least get some good food. Besides that I'm gonna be doing the same.
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>>163338003
>implying those are nerfs
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>>163337915
also best indicator of icefraud is the way he likes to gut the scaling of skills so early game they're pathetic while keeping their lategame application only slightly nerfed

look at monkey kings skills on launch. Every single one of his skill is an overpowered one point wonder:
>1 point boundless strike gives a giant aoe crit and stun, like a hideous 600 damage impale with a full screens length
>1 point tree dance gives you the full tree jumping effect, a 2000 range initiation and huge slow, unlocking both giant mobility, ganking, escape, scouting, etc
>1 point jingu mastery autowins lanes and you can literally tower dive people while level 1, kill them and still come out alive

meanwhile ember spirit:
>1 point searing chains is an 80 damage 1 second root with random targeting
>1 point sleight of fists has a disgusting 30 cooldown and 250 radius and +20 damage
>1 point flame guard is knocked out by 50 damage sneezed on you
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>>163337951
>KFC
fucking weebs
>>
>>163338003
>buy desolator on MK
>reduce creeps to -5 armor and many heroes below 0
>?????
>lifestealing MORE than before
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>>163338026
? he is in ranked
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>>163338142
>>163338185
there's no point eating good food if you're alone
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How can you fuck up leveling Ogre Magi
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>>163338203
>he wasnt buying deso pre nerf
lawl
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>>163338225
>tfw live in france and i can buy shit like foie gras burgers

le mao joyeux noël
>>
* Familiars HP reduced from 500/750/1000 to 300/500/700

I quit as ricing carry because of this shitty patch then continues to fuck up again with visage

holy shit, now what
>>
>>163338247
>I level up bloodlust before the pros told me to
XD
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>>163338273
>I'm going to be retarded.
k.
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>>163338269
hello mehmet
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>>163338269
>tfw live in france
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>>163338271
>Visage back to shit.
Nice.
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>>163338247
>Getting kills in lane
Sure why not
>Roaming
This dude's an idiot.

You dont' have to max BL, but him not taking one point is retarded.
>>
>>163338146
It makes his early game weaker which is the only time of the game where he's actually bullshit.

Beyond that he's pretty balanced.
>>
>>163338269
Is foei gras good on a burger?

Seems excessive and chef boyardee levels of stupid.
>>
>>163338247
this is my ogre build and i'm 5.5k

1v1 me irl
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>>163338360
>He takes one more level to burst you
Yep, balanced. His early game isn't nerfed that much at all, he now waits a minute to shit all over your face instead.
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>>163338398
Post your steam and we can
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>>163338441
>1v1 irl
>post your steam

rmyt
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>>163338441
id/stary
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>>163338398
>>163338441
>>163338463
pls post results
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>>163338460
I don't get it.
>>
Are there any heroes that justify taking the "reduced respawn time" talent? Seems to me the alternative is always better. I guess Venge is the only exception to this.
>>
>>163338553
The only worth taking is probably the - 60s for Techies and Veno, but even Veno has fantastic Talent of 3x Wards HP/Damage that is just too good to pass by, so maybe Techies only(+400 range for Blast Off is pretty negligible)
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>>163338529
>I don't get it.
really made your neurons transmit electrochemical signals, didn't it.
>>
>>163338648
Oh it's that shitty normie meme.
Thanks.
>>
is hod rly as good on cores as rtz is making it
>>
>>163338404
What bracket are you in? Be honest.
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>>163336738
I fucking love using the word champ ironically too. Enemy Dotards get so ass blasted when you are stomping them and say in the chat: 'this champ is so fun hahaha'
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>>163338745
yeah agreed, it really makes my little penis so hard lolol BTFO
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>artour and bulldog live at the same time
>shitshit nowhere to be found
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>>163338716
>I only do what RTZ tells me to"!11!
sad kys
>>
>Bulldog literally memed a huge buff for his favorite hero into happening

Valve in 2016, gentlemen.
>>
>>163338817
are u stupid or legit brain dead i cant tell
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>>163338553
I picked up the -50 second respawn on Joke Hero instead of his Ice Path a few games ago, it's godly for defending highground if you've got good anti push

>Enemy smoke ganks succesfully
>Respawn and throw down macropyre where they want to push

I hear it's good on Undying too since even if you get killed you respawn and have your stuff off CD already so you're fine to drop another tomb or golem
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Food for though
Dota 2 player average has decreased 18% since February
What went wrong?
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>>163338850
You are some streamcuck watching shitcuckk kys
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>>163338879
fucking cucks amirite? Dude they wish they were alpha like me
>>
>>163338026
Monkey king is available in ranked matchmaking
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>>163338720
5100, only real change is he can't do shit solo at level 2 anymore. Absolutely anything at all that helps him stay on the target pushes him right into bullshit territory faster than any other hero in the game right now. Dude is literal free mmr at this moment.
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>>163338854
>I hear it's good on Undying

The +GPM is too valuable for him considering Dirge can't farm for shit.

You're gonna have more impact with items earlier than you will with a reduced respawn time.
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>>163338928
u pick batrider/nightstalker and now they hero is useless
>>
how do you fit the gpm xpm talents lore wise?
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>>163339053
How do you fit getting gold from creeps?
How do you fit getting 200 gold from a CM that just bought boots and has 10 gold with her.
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>>163339053
>gpm

Blessings from the Ancients for such good work respawning and dying all these years

>xpm

Read a book nigger
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>>163339053
Compound interest.
>>
reminder od is very strong because of new atos root
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>>163338867
peruvians and russians are still downloading the patch as we speak
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>>163339053
How do you fit everyone getting gold from Roshan?

How do you fit getting gold from moon wells?
I guess people have been throwing pennies in there for good luck over the eons.
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>>163338492
id/stary won

4-4-0-1 ogre build
>>
So i finally laned against monkey king as a mele
>huge attack range
>He gets 3 hits and even if the fourth hit is canceled jingu mastery activates
>literally chases me under tower/towards base and life steals his entire bar with a melee and stun
Yeah i don't think timber is a counter to this cuck. no matter how much the lobby was screaming me to pick timber
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>>163339416
u only mid timber against dragon knight
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>>163339416
>no matter how much the lobby was screaming me to pick timber
ayy lmao
did you just got cucked by randoms
>>
here's a red pill for you all:

Icefrog left Valve a long time ago, but it was never announced because they were afraid of losing players.

"Icefrog" is simply what they call their team in charge of gameplay "balance" now.
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>>163339521
wow epic theory /b/ro never heard it before xD
>>
>>163339521
>here's a red pill
what in the hell is a 'red pill'? i'm sorry, i am not familiar with generation Z lingo
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>>163339508
Well it was a perfect game to play omni support. But we had a jungle lifestealer and a peruvian TA mid that lost to a shadow fiend and some how fell behind 3 levels. So i was stuffed with offlane which i usually love and it's my fault for not just going bat rider or something. Because no one in this game knows what a trilane is anymore.
It's all jungle
>>
Will a $2800 HP Omen X desktop gaming PC with Intel processor technology help me climb MMR?
>>
113 you fucking suck at dota please kill yourself retard faggot
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>>163339646
just get a 144hz display with ULMB my man
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>>163339692
>Getting a flicker shitplay.
Nice one jew faggot
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>>163339521
IceFrog left after TI3 made it clear to Valve Dota could pull in A HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS in one week.

Dota 2 is not a videogame to be updated and balanced, it's a cash printing machine that needs its ink changed, and if you think Gabe Newell lets anyone fuck with that machine you're high, IceFrog gets fuckhuge royalty checks to keep his mouth shut about him not being involved anymore.

>Pre TI3
>Alpine Ursa removed
>After TI3
>Cat ears drow banana taunts caprisun witch doctor (with gun)
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hey guys im a retarded cuck and i cant lane against monkey kang 101

tip #1: Pick pa
>guess who's more annoying
tip #2: Pick invoker
>lmao check my skeelz
tip #3: GANK MID PLEASE
>just as usual
tip #4: Shadow fiend
>look at this nukes
>you call that last hit?
tip #5: Pick Qop/am
>blink xd
tip #6: pick your favorite heroes
>can monkey kang stop you at your prime?
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>>163339738
confirmed for never having seen ULMB in action. it's ok to be poor, just don't spread lies on the internet my man
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>>163339741
nice reddit spacing
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>>163339767
I play with a 7000 dollar OLED. I just like to laugh at retarded faggots getting a flicker shitplay to no advantage other than eyestrain.
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>>163339771
>making your post readable means you're from reddit
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>dota 2 isn't dying
>ads and a giant banner on the front of the store

kek
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>tfw not a midcuck
>tfw will never have to lane against meme king

Feels good man. /offlane/ master race WW@
>>
>They finally nerf Monkey King.
>fuck the shop up even more
..
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>>163339843
I FUCKING HATE THE SHOP. WHY DO I NEED TO WATCH SOME SHIT GUIDE BEFORE ACCESSING THE SHOP

THESE VALVE FAGGOT CHANGES ARE SO FUCKING SHIT
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>>163339796
>I play with a 7000 dollar OLED
sure you do. come back when you've actually seen ULMB irl, it does not flicker at all.
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>>163339835
>monkey king tough to lane against in mid lane
huh, he's easy to take down even with meepo
Off lane is it's own thing against the monkey man though. At least most mid heroes have range to stop him
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>>163339738
Where did you hear that? ULMB doesn't cause flickering, at least not on my display. It rapes the brightness, but that is literally the only downside.
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>my sights are getting blurry

lmao thanks dota
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* Meepo Clones are now allowed to pickup runes

HOLD MY DICK I CANT CUM AT MY JOB
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>>163340301
I KNOW
TIME TO COLLECT ALL THE RUNES
HAHA
No seriously it's bad enough i get level 20 by pretty much 20-25 minutes
Now it's even faster since i can get multiple rune control quicker. I usually send my two meepos to collect as much runes as possible at level 3/4
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>>163331613
are you a qt boy ?
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i want to stop but the mmr is too good
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>MK got nerfed

What the hell is wrong with reddit
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>>163340442
>submissive support player that crossdresses while playing

>people from d2g wouldnt add me because i was using an alt

:(
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>>163339416
>listening to your teams suggestions ever

I had some data where I would record the outcome of times I listened to my team in the pick phase, my usual winrate is around 51.4% and when I listened to someone it was 40.7%
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>>163340554
Stop lying
If youre on eu and wanna play, sure
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>>163340607
I'm on us east, sorry bby
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>>163340554

do you wear a chastity device while playing? buttplug? anything other than girly clothes?
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>5 DAYS BEFORE XMAS

5 DAYS BEFORE XMAS

>5 DAYS BEFORE XMAS

5 DAYS BEFORE XMAS

NYAHOOOOO
merry xmas doturds :3
>>
Seriously just fix the UI so I can play again.

This is really fucking annoying.
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>>163340759
Avaturds are against the rules
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>>163340749
>>163340749
No, I dont own anything like that at the moment.

I have a dildo but I obviously don't use that while playing
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>>163340363
D UE

DUDE

Its SO FUCKING GOOD, my clone can get THAT regen rune now, holy shiiiiiit

How much EXP bounty rune gives at 2-4-6-8-10 min?

I NEED TO QUIT MY JOB RIGHT NOW BEFORE THEY NERF IT
>>
>pick ember
>farm vacuum the entire map
>lose

now I feel bad
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>>163340808
WHAT ARE YOU GONNA DO ABOUT IT THEN

NYEK HEK HEK HEK :3
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>>163340820

baka.

how do you think you'd feel about getting choked and forced to suck my dick while taking verbal abuse any time we lost?
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Did the patch improve performance?
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>>163341030
idc, never had drops lower than 60
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>>163341000
I think I like the sound of that <3
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>>163341030
Is the Agh's censoring a penis?
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>>163324007
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What's the Dota equivalent of pic related?
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>>163341323
invoker?
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>>163341280
>he actually believes that shaker can fuck up meepo

lmao, i'm more afraid of WW/Jakiro than shaker.
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>>163341323
PA critting 7 times in a row
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>>163340759
its 3 days anon but merry christmas
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>>163341323
An alliance mage in horde building?
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>>163341436
yeah pretty much

people in my pubs consider cleave and aoe a meepo a counter
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>>163341436
At that amount of meepos, the extra magic resist won't help him much.
>>
Who would win, 6.83 troll warlord or 7.00 monkey king
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Does anyone know the trick Russian people use to make Valve think network is shit and makes the game safe to leave?
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>>163341454
>+12 gmt
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>>163341516
A BF sven can kill your other meepos faster than the one he is hitting, as long as sven have free farm, meepo will get fucked.

unless meepo win the game before sven get his shit done
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Does Agh's on Meepo now have the same issue Vlad's has (the net gain for damage not outweighing +40 AGI)?

Is Agh's now optional on Meepo?
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>>163341607
>>163341658
well yeah i thought of that too of course but in my shit mmr it doesn't matter when people go recommended build 95% of the time etc etc
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nice UI, dotards
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>>163341726
what i dont get is why cant i see my +dmg anymore without hovering over it
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>>163341726
it's like one of my anime MMOs!
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>>163341678
+1 meepo is a huge improvement, can't be skipped.

You can get 2 lances before that tho, 5~6 min travel, 10~12 2 dragon lances.
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>>163341726
I miss the old shop lads.
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>>163341726
Coming soon to workshop
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>>163341678
i usually get 9-14 minute aghs so i still prefer that extra meepo spitting out 80 damage an auto attack+geostrike. not to mention an extra what 300 poof damage?
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>>163341809
This pretty good desu.
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>>163341436
>>163341516
>>163341524
I counted the meepos by taking a screenshot of the gif near the end, and a low estimate is 44. (No clue how the actual bug worked, so I can't calculate it from that)

>Echo Slam
>Shockwaves travel through the ground, damaging enemy units. Each enemy hit causes an echo to damage nearby units.
>Initial Damage: 160 / 210 / 270
>Echo Damage: 40 / 55 / 70

Assuming every meepo hits every other meepo with the echo damage
Every meepo takes 270*(1-mres) initial damage + 43*70*(1-mres) echo damage + 125*(1-mres) aftershock damage.

Meepo has 35% magic resistance. So we get 270*0.65+43*70*0.65+125*0.65 = 2213 magic damage. We add one fissure and enchant totem to the mix, which also triggers two more aftershocks, for another 260*0.65+2*125*0.65 = 331.5 magic damage.

In total, 2544 magic damage, enough to kill the 2298 health meepo.
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>>163341658
>Meepo presses Q
>Sven is helpless
Sven has the advantage if he can initiate, but it's a matchup Meepo can still work around, like all his counters.

Even a WW matchup he can hang back and wait on her ult, or bait it out before a teamfight.
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>>163341809
>armor 0

hmmmm
>>
>>163341924
Yes, of course.

But i remember a day that a shadowblade bf sven caught me offguard, i had aghs and 2 DL, it was 2 hits and i was dead.

He didn't went for bkb after that, game was finished when i got my vyse.
>>
>>163341809
>That texture size difference between top bar and bottom right
Consistency senpai
>>
>>163341436
Is Joke Hero going to be come meta?

3.25 second stun on a low CD with 1200 range that's only made stronger by New Atos, simply root enemies as they come to defend their tower from Liquid Fire and collect kills
>>
>>163341924
>meepo presses Q
>sven bkbs

in what world would you see sven without bkb

and even without, you have to be literally in melee too to kill him rofl
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>>163342071
>Sven pops BKB
>Turn 360 degrees and walk away
>Sven wastes BKB
You hit him with Poof, by the way. The damage radius for Poof is bigger than even Monkey King's attack range.
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>>163342032
>
What is the new cripple active thing?
>>
REMINDER based yames 2dg hardon will HOST DAC (redeye confirmed on twitter)
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where is this team from?
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>>163342274
Meepo buff and 2gd back, i'm literally wetting my pants
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>>163342198
>turns 360 degrees away
Huh, i have never in my life even after a blink poof, had a sven run away after popping bkb, it'd just stun and wack and i'm dead if i'm not insanely ahead.
>>
What do I build on Snek to make best use of her mana shield? Got her on random so much she's grown on me
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>>163342032
You can't say Jak is going to become meta because he's eventually gonna have a long ass icepath stun at level 25.

Especially since his main function is memepushing and is generally lacklustre as a support if he fails at doing that.
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>>163342364
>ultimate orb
>ultimate orb
>ultimate orb
>sheep stick
>linkins
>skaaaadi
>divine rapier
you're playing medusa
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>>163342320
not him
its the otherway around
>>
>artour still streaming
Nice desu
>>
>>163342364
Stats and MJOLNIR

Skadi, Butterfly and Mjolnir all make her a bitch to fight directly and Medusa is like Necrophos where all she wants to do is stand in people for a long time doing damage to them. So you build tank and damage items (that's why Linkens/Manta is such a meme build, she's not an illusion hero she's an item dependent hard carry siege tank)

Honestly what are you gonna do when a Medusa with 2700 HP and mana, mana shield, lightning shield, evasion and ulti ready to be popped starts smacking your racks??
>>
sup d2g

how do i become a dotard?
>>
>>163342553
play
lose
complain
>>
>bulldog getting btfo by helenalive

holy shit this is brutal. reminds me of my high school days getting rejected by every girl
>>
>don't play anymore
>still check back here occasionally
>>
my friends were complete trash at this game ~2 years ago and quit, has the game been casualized enough for them?
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>>163342646
>play
lies
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>>163342679
otherway around fucktard
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>Invoker catches you with a Tornado and unloads everything
>you turn on Blademail

is there a better feeling lads?
>>
>>163342850
Watching Invoker cast 2 spells then be 100% out of mana because FUCK that stupid elf nigger being tier 1 for literally 2 years straight
>>
>>163342850
cumming inside a 9 year old girl
>>
>>163342850
skeletonkingoutplayinginvoker.jpg
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>>163342908
m..MODS!

MODS DO SOMETHING!
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>>163342658
>you will never be a 7/10 girl and have your entire life handed to you because you can suck dick and stream with tits

Life just isn't fair

>>163342961
Who? Is that some kind of champion from Blizzard??
>>
>>163342850
>invoker has octarine

lmao get fucked

>>163342908
100% this, lets play dota 2 together

>>163342993
>this new

Little girls are the best
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>>163342658
what happened?
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>he's not watching Sheever
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>>163343113
I want a mouthful of Sheever Beaver if you know what I'm sayin
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>>163342961
>Guy picks invoker
>you Pick PA/WraithKing/AntiMage/Riki/Lina

so how long did it take you to learn that hero?

haha thats kewl but lemme show you something bro :)
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>when you trigger some faggot in the game.
fucking retard was crying for 30 minutes straight my goddamn sides
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>>163343113
the only good dota girls are the ones that don't say they're girls
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>>163343208
what happened

tell me dotard
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>>163343208
how did you trigger him?
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https://www.reddit.com/r/DotA2/comments/5jj0na/ice_frog_let_me_be_the_first_to_thank_you_for/

Where were you when Reddit turned against Icefrog?
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>>163343210
To her credit Sheever is about 99% less of a camwhore than every other female streamer on Twitch, for the most part
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>RTZ streaming for 14 hours straight
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>>163343331
What else is he gonna do win a Major?
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>>163343327
i wish there was context for this and the one gif of her grabbing her boobs

like

why u do thing

>>163343331
he sux at the game and always loses tho
>>
>>163343327
tubby did a lot of damage there
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>>163332546
This can be a safeplace too
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>>163343615
>>163343690

I MADE THIS SHITPOST SPECIAL FOR (YOU)
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What's the Dota equivalent of Cabal Shadow Priest?
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>>163343306
All the comments are shitting on the gay and praising icefrog for giving visage a well deserved nerf. Reddit will never turn against valve and I hate them for it.
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>>163332475
Dota is a game
Games are supposed to be fun
>>
>>163342908
papiesz detected
>>
>>163343854
What I'm reading is people who think he's now WORSE than in 6.89 (really bad)
>>
>>163343938
Valve makes sure that only the winning side has any funny
>>
>>163342850
Nyx Assassin mana burning Invoker. I smile seeing the 600+ mana burned/damage at the top
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>>163343938
>Dota is supposed to be fun

>spawn
>teleport out of base to help your team defend a tower
>get killed in 2 seconds flat by like 3 abilities
>rinse repeat X 20 until they take rax
>what shouldve been a 20-30 minute game then gets dragged into a 60-70 minute long game


EVERY FUCKING GAME!
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>>163344062
Mana Burn is such a good spell, I'm glad it didn't get nerfed

>tfw Ahgs Aether Octarine defending Highground

Literally the best feeling in Dota watching the enemy realize they're not coming highground because they're at 0 mana every time they try
>>
guys

what if

ursa built up fury swipe damage on himself instead of enemy heroes
>>
>>163344182
mana burn got nerfed
you need 5-10 seconds to check enemy int now
>>
Rat DotA status?
>>
>>163344348
penis
>>
>>163344273
D E L E T E T H I S

I don't know every heroes stat gain but it's not that big of deal I mean you should know who has high int and who doesn't based on heroes alone

>>163344348
Lycan turned into a brawler, Necronomicon nerfed, Visage Birds nerfed (direct request from RTZ), shrines to make it easier to defend, shrines in jungle to TP to and get behind the rat, it's DEAD so you'll fight for 30 minutes straight and LIKE IT
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>>163344436
>Visage birds nerfed just because of RedditTeezy.

God I hate this game's community
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what if there was a 1v1 game mode? (and not the silly little practice one that ends after 10 kills or losing a tower)
>>
>>163344489
It's not even a joke anymore how this game is balanced. I mean NP Treants were changed SOLELY because bulldog memed it so hard. That's literally where Dota is at right now, memes from twitch streamers are genuinely a factor they take into account when balancing the game we're down the slippery slope and barreling down the mountain at mach speed
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>This is the death ward range
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>>163344510
And you had to make creeps instead of them autospawning. And you could control the creeps.
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>>163344620
>no lens

baka
>>
>>163344620
I can work with that
>>
>>163344608
well I mean + 6 treants is literal dogshit for a lvl 25 talent , compare it with no mana ulti skeletal king
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>>163344656
Lens increases the cast range, not the attack range. right?
It was with the talent that increases the ward attack range
>>
>>163344620
oooohhhhhhh yyyyeeeeeaaaaahhhhhhhhhhh feelin' gooooood mun

>>163344673
>Sprout now lasts indefinitely but trees will be destroyed by creeps walking into them
>>
>>163344710
yeah
>>
>>163344673
honestly, a better level 25 talent would be removing the gold bounty from treants
>>
Why did they kill visage what the fuck? He wasn't even played in competitive yet and icefaggot nerfed him for what reason?
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>Treant bash works if you blink from Invis

Wow with just blink he actually does so much work. Easy bashes easy overgrowths and it lets you not break invis jumping gaps in trees.
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>>163344831
reddit threads on /r/dota2/
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>>163344831
Anythign that's not a flashy carry gets nerfed if its strong.

>Lich gets an indirect buff via ranged creep being worth more XP
>Lich gets directly nerfed not more than a week later

Meanwhile it took Invoker well over a year to get the nerfs he needed. Valve doesn't care about pubs or fun they want a fast paced action filled competitive scene and Visage doesn't fill that niche
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is our girl Lina viable yet?
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>>163344831
RTZ had too much trouble with birbs. Sprout nerf next up.
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>>163344946
Lina was good in 7.00 and got buffed in 7.01, what do you think?
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>>163344954
>6 second AOE semi-disable that directly increases Timbersaws mobility as well as providing six (S I X) free tango targets wherever you need them

I'm not RTZ but come on that's OP as fuck, there's not even an item that allows you to escape it
>>
How do I see how much damage, mana or whatever I get per stat in game now? It just shows that for example OD gets 2.7 int per level, not how much mana that actually is

I started playing shortly before the 7 update but I remember the old hud let me do this. Pretty sure I could at the start of 7 by holding alt and mousing over the icons, but now holding alt does nothing and I can only mouse over buttom of hud for a general overview
>>
I fucking love this patch
3840x1080 Resolution+Minimap enlarger on my 2nd monitor.
Unfair advantages boys.
>>
>>163345298
this makes me want to puke
>>
>>163345298
Until the minimap is physically removed all this does is make you look like you have the awareness of an amoeba.
>>
>>163344620
A shame Witch Doctor is a trash hero.
>>
>>163345362
Well, my display is super wide, but also very pixel dense. The minimap doesn't resize big enough to really see whats happening on it very well.
This zoom in tool allows me to see whats going on much easier.
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>>163323860
New MoM is useless on Drow, it was a huge nerf.
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>>163345398
>Land a 4 person Maledict late game
>Enemy BKB charges are all low

pssh, nothin personnel, mon
>>
>>163343113
I'm into into Amazonian horse women
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>>163345575
>look guys this extremely rare occurrence MIGHT happen, good hero!
>>
>icefrog keeps nerfing omniknight
>winrate keeps climbing

holy shit
>>
>>163345708
It dropped 4% between the last patch at 7.00, what are you taking about?
>>
>>163345679
>Look guys I'm so shit at everything but cancer OP FotM heroes that every hero that's not one of those is bad!

I said pssh nothin personnel, but you took it personnel anyway
>>
Is skywrath with an aghs GoodOgre?
>>
Faggot Russian duo Skywrath and Crystal Mage go cykablasting to offlane without buying wards or chicken, feed about 20 deaths and abandon the game.

Great
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Why isn't there an Urn for Mana?

Why doesn't Urn of Shadows upgrade to provide both HP and Mana?

Why isn't there a mana-steal UAM?
>>
>>163345798
No, he's trash because his lockdown is unreliable, his heal is shit and too mana costly, maledict has a tiny AOE and his ult is mitigated by so many things.

Oh yeah, he's also one of the easiest supports in the game to kill.
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>>163341726
nice resolution, peru
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>"just" 600 more mmr and I will reach Slacks level
How the fuck does one wins 24 games in row?
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>>163345960
What about mana leak, but for HP.
>>
>>163345936

Not that anon but

>literally list all the reasons why X is a shit support
>Rubick always turns out to be worse than X with those reasons
>>
>>163346024
Omni knight.
>>
>>163346071
I'm offlaner who only plays random draft so spamming heroes won't work.
>>
>>163346048
Rubick can use every spell in the game. Can witchdoctor do that?
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havent played since oracle got added. the fuck are all these new items. When do you buy Iron Talon and on what heroes?
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post bad items

pic related
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>>163345960
what if there was a dispel, but for heroes?
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>>163346048
At least Rubick can roam effectively early and it isn't exactly difficult for him to steal a stun and depending on the heroes he's against, high impact spells.
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>>163345936
> lockdown is unreliable

Because making 8 seconds of stun on a non ulti skill would be OP?

> his heal is shit and too mana costly

I'll give you that one but it does help early game maintaining pushes before it becomes useless

>maledict has a tiny AOE

If it had a bigger AOE it would be OP, have you never seen Maledict tick someone for +500 damage? Have you ever not gotten a kill after landing maledict and that person took some damage and they're either dead or back to fountain?

>ult is mitigated by so many things

Because it does a whole teams worth of DPS spread over the whole enemy team?

If you can't play a hero that's fine but don't say it's bad because it requires positioning and patience to play, just stick to Slark and his 3 get out of jail free cards seems more your style
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>>163346159
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Reminder that icefrog just switched numbers on a custom wc3 map and everyone is still sucking his cock. He's not even a programmer. Plenty of people have made custom games that are more fun in wc3
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I want the 2014 meta back
I miss playing lina and PL
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>>163346253
>He's not even a programmer.

What if he's not even a frog?
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No more arguing, Queen of Pain is the worst hero in the game.
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>>163346516
You spelled Brewmaster wrong

>Has been useless for years and the only time he's picked up in the pro scene is when EG is losing with him

Fundamentally shit hero with a garbage ulti that denies the use of game changing items
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i want the old map back yall
>>163346516
natures prophet
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>>163344620
LOOK AT IT GO
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>>163346516
...

Hey!
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>>163346618
not even close man
>>163346574
his ulti would be good if the bears actually scaled well, as of right now you get basically a shit load of OP spells when you cast it at level 6-12 and then it summons 3 gold pinatas
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>>163346618
Spectre is black.
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>>163344436
thanks anon
let us know when ratting is back
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>>163346674
Exactly. Pandas do way less than Brew with items would, his skills make him into a fighting brawler hero but then his ulti just goes and negates fucking EVERYTHING about the hero.

No items, no AOE slow, no guarenteed miss chance, no smacking people with crits, no using Shivas or blink or whatever you have, all you get is a stun, a tornado and a really shitty Radiance. Make his ulti into some kind of mix between chemical rage and Warpath he'd probably be viable.
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>>163344641
and you could only make them with resources, but the resources would be gathered by special worker creeps

wait a sec
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>>163346216
>Because making 8 seconds of stun on a non ulti skill would be OP?

Shadow Shaman has 8.5 seconds of lockdown and Lion has 6.6, both of which are incredibly easy to get off on isolated heroes.

What percentage of games are you going to see a Witch Doctor get that perfect double bounce on 2 enemy heroes close together? Pretty fucking rarely, just like a super good Chain Frost from Lich.

>If it had a bigger AOE it would be OP

Refer to my last point, it's going to be rare for you to get multi-target maledicts and not every maledict you use is going to kill someone, it's semi-poor cast range also just puts Witch Doctor closer to harms way.

>Because it does a whole teams worth of DPS spread over the whole enemy team?

It's a non-right click physical damage spell which means it scales like shit the longer the games goes on, and like his previous abilities it is UNRELIABLE.

And now you're laying down some 'wow just be gud like me xD' argument even though you can apply the same logic to just being good enough to not get caught in close up cask bounce, have your whole team maledicted and letting Witch get a full duration Death Ward off.

Look, he even has a pathetic 47% winrate in 5k+ and is rarely picked up in competitive.

I'm not even an autistic FOTM hero spammer, you're just having trouble admitting that Witch is bad, I'd ask for your MMR but I know you won't tell me, or just lie.
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>get rid of Soe
>get rid of Capitalist
>acquire Abelle

Is the time finally ripe for joinDOTA's comeback?
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tfw no skill that makes tusk, brew and bristle fuck in a furry bara orgy
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>>163346935
She looks like a fridge but I haven't heard her cast so I'll just assume she sounds like AnneDroid
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>>163346969
winters curse cast on 1 of the 3 turns the game into a brutal snuff film
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>>163346976
>3 (Yous)
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>>163346935
Take that disgusting shit out of here
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RIP +6 Treants
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>>163346969
>Holy Persuasion
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high quality discussion this morning i see
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>>163347114
>I go on both sites
>implying anything you say can stop me

Stay upset.
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>this entire thread
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>d2g going on about their baby duck syndrome again

old ui was objectively shit
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http://www.strawpoll.me/11923379/
http://www.strawpoll.me/11923379/
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>>163346468
t. someone who clearly didn't play vs old cancer lancer getting rampage with illus cloning themselves and getting rampage with diffu/hot/butterfly while diving your fountain
i dont want this hero to be relevant again and im fine with him being trash
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>>163347232
What do you gain from browsing two polarizing sites?

One is a shitty popularity contest where your opinions only get attention if they conform to the status quo

The other is a lawless shit hole where people spam terrible posts to generate attention for themselves.
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>>163347269
Why don't we just do away with UI entirely and let people play bare bones with zero information about anything?

Dota Hard Mode, no idea what your HP is, doesn't show your regen your gold, no minimap no pings, chat disabled, solo queue only
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>>163347392
I didn't play vs, you're right
I've played as
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>these last 30 posts

The sc2 streamcuckold disease has entered a new phase.
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>>163347392
>Sitting in the trees while the enemy dies to your self replicating unkillable evading mana burning illusions

Good times, the best of times....
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PL was the man keeping timber in check
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>>163347556

No, bloodstone not being a stupid item was what kept timber in check.
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>>163342274
link the tweet my man
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>>163347405
See the truth is that the sites aren't polarising at all.

Reddit is the best source of Dota information and has some decent discussion, but uses stale Twitch / Internet memes.

4chan is highly negative, has a lot of edgelord opinions trying to be shocking because 'muh anonymous', but is funny sometimes. Trying to have a legit argument here though kind of sucks because if someone can't be bothered retorting your points they will just resort to green text babble.
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>play some god damn dota
>get shit fps
God fucking damnit Volva, don't you GET IT? The way you get people to play your SHIT game is to make it RUN BETTER, NOT WORSE! You stupid IDIOTS think the 95% of cheap shit pc players who play your shit game care about the new god damn FANCY GRAPHICS??? doy ou??? FIX THE DAMN FPS YOU STUPID IDIOTS. MAKE IT RUN BETTER OR GIVE US WORSE GRAPHICS SETTINGS or something CHRIST valve! what wdo you even DO valve??? add in new "faNCY" effects?? i emna what do you even GAIN from that? who thinks to themselves unironically "OH IWANNA PLAY DOTA BECAUSE GRAPHICS" no one VALVE! NO ONE does that! sO fix the damn GRAPHICS valve! Make it FASTER again
i HAD far MORE fps in source 1 than source 2, and I had more fps in early source 2 than now. good JOB valve, why do you THINK 7.00 LOST you players? HUH?? because it's UNPLAYABLE with such SHIT fps, VALVE!
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So, what is bugged about meepo, anyway?
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>>163347598
No not fucking buffing Reactive Armor to the point of physical damage immunity with a PMS at 4 minutes was what kept Timber in check, which makes it easier to get to bloodstone to shit all over everyone because old PL is gone

>tfw you counter pick KotL into Timber and it works out great
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>>163347652
>[reddit] has some decent discussion
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>>163332825
Because Meppo scales 500% with stat items, unlike 100% for normal heroes.
Even Illusion heroeos only reach 240-320% with questionable EHP
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For the longest time, Tinker felt like the only hero that could be 20-0 at 15 minutes but still have a good chance of losing the game.

But Tinker, the game losing king, now has a queen- a queen of pain in fact- to rule over the game losing kingdom.
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>tfw small dick
>tfw at least not a dotard
dodged a bullet 'ight 'ere
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>>163339560

>generation z
>matrix came out 17 years ago
>>
>>163347652
>Reddit
>Decent discussion

The only subreddit I go on semi-regularly is the Rust one. Almost always when I bring up some point of view of suggestion that isn't considered "normal" I seemingly always get down voted into obscurity, and the few replies I get are such poorly constructed responses they couldn't even be considered counter arguments.

I know that each sub reddit can be different from one another, but any site that facilitates that popularity contest type community automatically leaves a bad taste in my mouth.
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Hmmm
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>gulag literally copy and pasted a lel of legends hero

nice game dotards
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why does reddit cry so much about visage
he seems to be the type of hero that no one really enjoys but some people pick him to look cool
>>
>>163347809
Is old-school better than it was a few months ago?
The grinding was putting me off so I quit.
>>
>>163347930
I don't see anything wrong there. We're you expecting us to find something wrong with that picture?
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>>163347972
He takes a lot of skill to play and that's why he should be OP. But icefraud is a fraud. Fuck him sriiusly. I bet he's dead since he didn't update dota allstars in a long time despite promising to.
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>replying to a 3 hour 29 minutes and 35 seconds old post
>misusing the quote marks
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>>163347930
>>163348105

>/pol/tard dumps his dog whistle image
>no one takes it
>samefags it so he can go on his prepared lecture about group X

Reminder that /pol/ literally merged 4chan and Reddit into one.
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>>163347972
Visage got overbuffed because 'le micro is hard :^)'

Same thing happened to Chen, Lycan, Meepo (has happened to him again), Invoker (le lots of spells is hard).
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>>163347652
reddit attracks the kind of people who enjoy kneejerking for hours and pretending that other opinions dont exist or just plain wrong
also too many insecure young adults so the average post is about proving how they are better than everyone else. this destroyes things that could be funny in the first place like the old starterpacks that made fun about very obvious stereotypes. nowdays its all about "hey there is a guy i dont agree with/im better than/who bullied me/im jealous of."
same applies to /pol/, political side of tumblr but the most obvious is reddit because of the up/downvotes
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>>163189160
okay this is just obvious you're samefagging trollie
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>Dota 2
>horribly imbalanced
>filled with bugs
>nu-male HUD design
>balanced by reddit

rmyt
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>>163348303

Did you literally reply to a nearly 2 day old post?
>>
<<163347809

>redditscape
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>>163191002
>stable equals good
I guess untangling earbuds cords should be considered a sin because since they "strive" to stay in that shape (by virtue of being tangled) their state should remain like that.
>>
>>163348389
It's called "being balanced by the community". You dotards should try it. Instead you have a faggot called icefrog that nerfs and buffs whatever he wants and has no idea what he wants to do.
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why are dotards so fucking assblasted about the UI and talent tree?

It's fine
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Is there even a point pulling against a duolane?
Most of the time they'll just contest it while your core is busy CSing under the tower, and farm both the camp and the creeps.
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Anyone have that webm or video of arteezy hitting his computer in rage?? source?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vD4ksC6rO5I


seen in 1:15 mark
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>>163348491
because dotards are dunning krugerites suffering from baby duck syndrome

inb4 people who dont know what these terms mean accuse them of being buzzwords

they literally define d2g perfectly
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>>163348504

is this b8
>>
>>163348545
>>163348545

Dead thread for a dead general
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>>163348504
>arteezy

(you)
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>>163348558
no

>>163348575
i dont know i saw zai and kuroky i think
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>>163348504
this is made so much better by the fact that EE hates NGE
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>>163347958
You can't copy something that's already copied
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>>163348504

>literally 11 minutes of nonstop baffling

This was some dedicated autism to make, senpai
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>>163348516

i havent had the game installed for 6 months and just come here to check out peoples reactions to new patches, and from an outside perspective i can tell you that the new ui looks like a piece of shit
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>>163324814
I mean it says "Treants" in the talent, which is the official name of the normal summons. "Greater Treants" is the name of the big summons, so they're not "Treants"
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>implying baby duck syndrome applies to "people" which have only played one and only videogame in their lives
Dotards...
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>>163342524
>people finally realize that straight damage and sustain damage is the way to go on medusa
>everyone forgets radiance
+65 dmg, 60 dmg/s aura
Take the hint lads.
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>>163347809
>tfw small dick
>tfw dotard
Hey at least i'm having fun right?
>>
when will we see some day9 coaching done by purge
>>
I actually like low priority. Am I strange?
>>
>>163349879
i got to low prio only couple of times but my experience with it is always the same: people tryhard to win more than in my ranked games
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>>163348361
? why r u posting her elmao
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>>163343793
Rubik
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>>163331613
https://steamcommunity.com/id/bart_r/

Add me up familia
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>>163349860
Mid Janvary
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>>163341030
A little.
Its now at 50-55 range instead of 25-35 range.
Still weird its not in 144 range.
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