/acg/ - Armored Core General: Custom Playmat Edition

I know it's been a few days, but it's time to come out of hiding.

>>163279532
Can someone explain why the cradles have to fly? Wouldn't it be cheaper to stick an artificial habitat on the ground and just plant a bunch of trees?

>>163286193
I'm guessing Kojima Radiation is just that powerful. There's probably a good reason NEXTs aren't normally allowed in Cradle airspace.

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LIVE

>>163286193
Well, if Space Battleship Yamato and an Enviromental Engineering intro course taught me anything, it's that pollutants, especially the really nasty ones like Kojima particles, permeate the soil. It's usually not a fast process, but it just keeps going down and down and down. If they had the ability to make KP-impermeable structures, they would exist. Cradles are inherently cost-ineffective.

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>cradles

>>163290727
>there's probably a good reason NEXTs aren't normally allowed in Cradle airspace.

Huh, I was wondering why no NEXTs were around to defend the cradles when you and Old King attack them.

>>163275391
Thats a nice playmat Ahab, congrats on getting it.

STOP 404'ING YOU COWARDS

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Last bump, good night /acg/. Please be here tomorrow.

>>163320569

I will lend you a hand and a helping bump. May Nineball preserve us.

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Someone else needs to take over now. Looks like /vg/ is starting to slow down, so it should be easier.

How many normals would you need to kill a next

>>163335834
On an open and flat battlefield, about a dozen BFF normals could pull it off with a bit of luck.

In an enclosed space where they can ambush you at point blank, a couple Algebra normals could knock out a next with just a couple punches. Alternatively, they have a good chance in urban fights as long as they have a massive numerical advantage due to their unusually high maneuverability for Normals.

The other corporations are shit out of luck though, unless they're fighting trash NEXTs like Celebrity Ash.

Thread AP at 30%

>>163337805
I dont know if you guys like or hate Celebrity Ash.

>>163348236
We love to hate him

>>163337805
I think the Algebra Normals still get bodied in an open urban space. Permaflight is just too strong of an advantage.

>>163337805
>>163335834
>>163355798

The only normals that could even feasibly stand a chance are those that comprised Silent Avalanche. Every other normal in the game is pure garbage.

>>163355798
They're actually pretty dangerous in those couple snowy/foggy city missions that they appear in. If you let your guard down for a second and stop moving, they can sneak up and pile you to death pretty easily. I mean it's not likely, but in the few scenarios where it's possible at all for Normals to win I'd say the Algebra ones have some of the highest chances. Especially VS a slow and unskilled pilot like Wonderful Body.

>>163360506
But mostly this. And even then they barely count, since they're mostly just long range gun emplacements with a Normal suit strapped to them.

With how shitty it is to be a Normal pilot in the 4 universe, imagine how horrible it has to be getting stuck in an MT. Or worse, getting stuck in one of those missile trucks or a helicopter. Those guys probably get curbstomped by GA's shitty Normals. The second a NEXT appears you're already dead.

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>>163286193
>>163290727
It's not just the radiation but the air supply. Above the atmosphere, the Cradles have an unlimited and untainted supply of air and sunlight. On the ground they would need constant filtering and have to likely use kojima reactors for power (no solar) defeating the purpose of avoiding radiation.

Also defense. Because of the satellite weapons any high atmosphere missiles or jets or weapons like that are highly vulnerable to being shot down, leaving only the few, corporation controlled nexts as threats to a cradle that flies. Even arms forts aren't going to be good at fighting in the upper atmosphere, Answerer doesn't float very high.

I never understood why they allowed you to use PA when fighting on the cradles, though.

The real reason to both though? Miyazaki has a fetish for quirky level design and logic be damned when he wants to make a floating platform stage.

>>163335834
>>163337805
AC4 Era nexts could be legitimately threatened by a well-trained normal team (Silent Avalanche, Bharat Squadron). A large enough swarm of Interior normals could pose a threat too, most notoriously when paired with fixed cannons. In AC4, even some of BFF's ships had weapons capable of fighting a next one on one, as long as the next didn't get in close.

But ACFA speed nexts basically need some kind of special weapon to defeat, like the Torus rail cannons or prorotype nexts, or some of the proto-arms forts.

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>>163372546
>I never understood why they allowed you to use PA when fighting on the cradles, though.
1. I think they just forgot about the non-PA missions in AC4, or maybe they decided those missions were too hard or unbalanced or something. I'm not sure if it would actually be possible to beat Old King without any PA.

2. They may have allowed it because of desperation. When you have 100 million lives at stake, giving 10 million of them cancer isn't such a big deal compared to the alternative.

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What was up with Lilium? How the heck did she get such a high ranking? Is there any more info about her other than the obvious stuff?

>>163275391
Now I know what Cyrano's emblem is supposed to be.

>YOU HAVE LEFT THE COMBAT ZONE

The worst bit of VD

>>163360996
Why even bother with MTs at that point.
When a NEXT comes in they should just leg it.

>>163376878
Not much. I always got the feeling that Wong had a lot of clout within Collared, being an old veteran and not willing to rock the boat. As his favorite student, she probably absorbed some of that status which, combined with her great skill, boosted her to the #2 spot instead of Wynne or Roadie.

>>163360996
>Wonderful Body

What was GA even thinking? They had more to work with in fucking Dan Moro than him.

>>163384024
>We've trained this man wrong, as a joke

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Top combat ability my ass.

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>>163335834
If the NEXT was fighting Kojima proofed Normals inside Sphere, it would only take a few of them. Bahrat Squadron could probably do it as well.

>>163389087
Why would a NEXT be fighting in Sphere for anything other than a super quick mission?

>>163390248
They made you go into Sphere to quel a worker rebellion in AC4, the normals were pretty annoying in that mission.

sadf

>>163373797
>Oldking without PA might be impossible
Excuse you what
Of course it's possible.

>>163395475
You take a fuck ton of damage without PA up. With how crazy Old King flies around on the cradles, he'd destroy you with chip damage easily.

>>163360996
>one of those missile trucks or a helicopter

Now imagine being in one of those on a base that is under attack and then a allied NEXT comes to save the day, I wouldnt be surprised if NEXT pilots are seen as some kind celebrities on their respective military forces.

>>163373797
>I'm not sure if it would actually be possible to beat Old King without any PA.

I possible, and in any case, they could save those for hard mode if they didnt want to force players on such "difficult" missions.

>>163376878
Wong and any influence that BFF or the Wolcott family have probably help her, Wong doesnt consider her even close to be as good as Mary.

>>163390631
>a worker rebellion

I always wanted a mission were you have to help a traitor to escape and by doing you get a mission to attack a arms fort or a special weapon on its base.

>>163397472
>Wong doesnt consider her even close to be as good as Mary.

Where is this stated?

>>163398496
http://armoredcore.wikia.com/wiki/Wong_Shao_Lung

>How endearing... I expected too much from that girl[Lilium]. She's not half the fighter Mary was.

>>163396019

That sounds like a case of git gud.

>>163401989
I wonder if Otsdarva could have actually defeated AM if he was fighting for real.

>>163402717
previous protagonist, I really doubt it, he probably even try to fight for real at a moment, but when he realized it wasnt going to work, he faked his death before time to avoid getting killed for real.

>>163403343
Fighting White Glint was the only possible mission dangerous enough to threaten the safety of the League's best pilot. He definitely premeditated it.

Night /acg/, survive.

Why are the reaper squad so fucking edgy

>>163408379
There's only so much you can narratively do with red and black genetically modified supersoldiers, anon.

>>163413542
Anyone have any idea what the moonrunes say?

>>163415473

Something something "muh honor".

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Guys.....

Copy & Paste? Inspiration? C'mon, there's a reason why it looks so similar.

>>163410040
It's a shame because red and black is a great colour scheme.

>>163418814
What is this?

>>163419305
Looks like a clip from NieR2. Demo goes live on the 22nd, so I think Japan has had it for about a day now.

>>163418814
Woah
Since when was Nier a mecha game?

>>163419305
Nier: Automata

>>163421664
Since Nier: Automata. It reminds me so much of For Answer. But more so, I could see the next generation mechs looking something like that and having a Jet-mode. But then they would just call it Macross instead of Armored Core.

>>163418814
Those moments you just want to ask the developers from where they got the idea.

It reminds me of a custom Aaliyah kit.

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>>163415979
Love it

>>163436612
here its is.

http://ravenrepublic.net/2010/01/31/now-thats-an-armored-core-aaliyah-custom/

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>>163379468
It's the team emblem from V.

>>163441667
It's so fucking bad
can count layers on your hands
Truly befitting

>>163443190
It screams Ahab on every level.

>>163418814

>they're not even being subtle about ripping it off

This ruffles my johnnies.

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L I V E
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>>163443190
Is the haikufag back?

>>163457789
How about LiV instead?

What is even the meta for beating that thing? I've only managed to pull it off once and I can't remember how.

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>>163443684
Well, hate to break it to you, but S74R made that, not me. My handiwork looks a little more like this.

Who was your favourite VD pilot?
>that one guy who talks about how much he doesn't wanna die before the fight and how he'll just have to do his best
I wish he ejected.

>>163466745
I like that one pilot who only showed up in a single mission and had an edgy quote before his battle and absolutely no dialogue during the battle.

>>163466745
Jack

>>163466745
the one you work one mission with him and you fight him later, the emble was a cat.

>>163464384
The colors don't even clash horribly; I'm disappointed.

>tfw a friend gifted me Assault Suit Leynos

I hope you guys have a good holiday this year. Have another bump on the house.

>>163469863
C R U S H
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>>163490304
How is the remake anyway? The original Genesis game is one of my favorite video games ever.

>>163492418

It definitely works. I can say that much. Haven't gotten too far into it though.

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Best theme

>>163437102
God dammit I still gotta figure out how to beat the Answerer I don't think my AC has good enough flight capabilities.

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>>163508515
You definitely need to be able to fly well.

Try using laser blades

>>163508913
I know that I just have difficulty manuvering in flight I dunno what parts I should use.

>>163500903
Who?

>>163509673
Just use your NEXT bucks to fetch yourself a Sobrero or Latona (both very good for flying) and go dual blade crazy.

brap

>>163508515
Use blades on the arms to win

>>163477170
Well, it's good to know you're not dead, Urist.
>>163462069
Well, the Official Vagrant Guns Method involves everybody grabbing a TE-stacked heavy, dual Kinfolk (or Knaves, user choice), the head and generator with the highest jamming resistance, some low-output boosters, and the 500 range FCS. And then everybody shoots it and avoids getting slashed until it dies.
If you're by yourself, you can try the Grind Blade method, but that one's a bit of a crapshoot.

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What do you guys think of Best Girl of the Season show? Pic related.

We need more melee weapon made out of steel for mech battles, none of these beam laser sword shit.

>>163418814
i never got around to the first nier but i think i have to buy this game

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>>163508913
>>163509673
>>163510491
>>163514303

>Super advanced mechanized battle platform with the latest in shield technology
>poke it to death with a pointy laser stick
>dies instantly

>>163538980
First NieR is good stuff. Would recommend, if you can find it. Should be pretty cheap. Same goes for the Drakengard games, as they're technically also part of the series.

>>163526139
>the Official Vagrant Guns Method
Yeah I remember now, that's how my team did it too.

>Grind Blade method
That sounds horrifying and retarded yet also really fun somehow.

>>163543408
You are now aware that Motherwill and Great Wall are actually the most resilient Arms Forts. You have to actually use special tactics and hit the weak points in order to stop them, otherwise they're invincible.

>Omer in charge of building superweapons

>>163548781
None of the arms forts were really challenging. More of them should have been like Answerer or Motherwill where you have to disable different parts.

>>163401989
>ACFA on Sega Genesis, directed by Suda51

>>163549646
Sol Dios was pretty fun and somewhat challenging if you fight it the intended way instead of blitzing the carrier with blades.

>>163457789
>want to play AC3 and Nexus again
>PCSX2 runs at ~5-10 fps on both
>want to play upscalred rendering or at least windowed 1:1 SD ratio
>don't want to drag out my PS2 from storage and play on a blurry upscaled HD screen

is this what armored core has become

>>163466745
Maggy will always be up there with Zinaida for me.

V had more colorful characters like RD and Chief though.

>>163547802
I'd have enjoyed a two-pilot mercenary team where one of them drove a SOBRERO and the other one had a Raiden.

>>163553154
That would have actually been really tough to fight against, provided the stage was right and the Raiden was protected from blades somehow.

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Post yfw you're in a muscle tracer and you just noticed the enemy next doing a flyby.

>>163549646
>>163548781

The arms forts should've been on the level of Mother Will 2: Electric Boogaloo, from AC: Verdict Day. You know, the big son of a bitch that needs 4 people to take it down, or one really skilled pilot.

Also, my friend Niji from Armored Core Universe once told me that japan had a limited time contest where some people could fight an enhanced Mother Will that had kojima nukes instead of regular missiles. Can anyone confirm if that ever happened?

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>>163562162
>mfw

>>163562497
I heard about the Kojima nuke thing before. I wish I could have a chance to play that.

Is there a hard counter for helicopters in Front Misssion 3? They just showed up and are kicking my ass.

Let's make he perfect AC gaming using components from previous AC games:

>the music of ACSL
>the difficulty of ACLR
>the environment and setting of AC2
>the cool bosses of AC Silent Line
>the balance of ACLR
>the post game content of ACVD (Those challenge missions were fun)

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>>163578570
I liked the concept of ultimate weapons. If they got fixed up a bit to be more useful and usable they could make a fun addition.

Are you getting anything AC related for christmas?

>>163586452
I wish I was getting anything for Christmas

>>163586452
Empty boxes. (I'll let you figure out how that's AC related.)

So... long time no AC for me. What all are you playing to scratch that AC itch?

Project Nimbus here, it's a'ight but lacks customization and seems to be in that 'early release' limbo.

Wish From would port an AC to PC, if they'd toss out Last Raven I'd go nuts over that. 4A would be another good one...

>>163589592
>What all are you playing to scratch that AC itch?
I've been playing a lot of Lost Planet 2 again. It's pretty funny how most players don't bother to use Vital Suits, and when they do, they don't learn how to pilot them well and just treat them like temporary powerups. The mech action in Lost Planet is really fun if you know what you're doing. I just wish there were more VS segments instead of so many on foot missions.

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>>163589592
>What all are you playing to scratch that AC itch

It's been all over the place as it's more of a general giant robot itch rather than just AC for me. I was bouncing off EDF and trying out Zone of the Enders a few months ago but here's a few that I've been into recently.

>Titanfall 2
Recently grabbed it on PC since it's 50% off and it's genuinely been the most pure fun I've had with a shooter in a long time. I admit that I was avoiding it for a bit and I never played the first one (only slightly because of that one "mech" quote which is misattributed at a second glance anyways), but the mobility system is tons of fun to go fast with on-foot, and the Pilot/Titan gameplay dynamic blends surprisingly well. You basically go from wallrunning into windows to flank some assholes as a parkouring infantryman to these corner-boosting, slightly-more-methodical Titan battles. Balancing and skill level is all over the fucking place though, and some of the maps are shitty for the otherwise top-notch movement system but they're porting more of the TF1 maps which were apparently the bee's knees, so that might be remedied soon.

Only thing to consider is that Respawn was pretty much OG Infinity Ward, so that might turn some people off. I haven't played a fucking Call of Duty game in forever so I honestly don't give a fuck about any comparisons.

>Gundam Breaker 3
The ultimate robot part kitbashing simulator but god don't expect customization or gameplay to be anything like AC. It might look like it at first glance until you realize that it's basically a mix of Diablo and Dynasty Warriors. That said, it's still a damn fine game to just space out in and create the most fucking outlandish MS imaginable and have it kick ass. Pink weapon arm SOBRERO Tanks have nothing on the things you can make in this game.

Anyways, you think Project Nimbus is worth it in its current state? It's on sale, 25% off. It's a damn shame if it's in Early Access limbo though.

>>163593626
>Anyways, you think Project Nimbus is worth it in its current state? It's on sale, 25% off. It's a damn shame if it's in Early Access limbo though.
Eh, I dunno yet.

Haven't plaged too much yet, got through about half the campaign missions and gave survival a go. It's okay, definitely has the AC4A fast paced combat down and then some... but it feels like there's quite a ways to go still. Survival is kinda whatever, exactly as you expect just shooting down waves which got boring quick.

Still, I don't regret shelling out $15 for it. Good for when I have 20min to spare and just want a quick dose of mecha combat. And maybe one day it'll really turn into something great.

>>163589592
I'm playing AC to scratch my AC itch. I just replayed VD. After playing FA, I only just realised the final boss is a NEXT.

>>163529468
Despise its flaws I fucking love IBO for using no laser melee weapons, specially the maces for Barbatos.

>>163587773
Damn right.