Final Fantasy General CCCLXXXVI - /ffg/

>>163248292

I love you op !
this is the best /ffg/ to date!

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2nd for Bugenhagen

>>163248398
I always thought his lower half was just half a sphere. I liked it better when I thought it was like that.

>two and a half hours in to RK maintenance
>still no info datamined
Well, okay then. Cue RK is ded posting

Just beat FFXV.
Some questions that I don't get.
Who is Ardyn and what is his purpose and goal? What was the ending with Noctis and Luna getting married or something. They both are dead.
Why was Noctis stuck in a Crystal for 10 years? (I couldn't hear what Ardyn said this whole scene because his voice was so low and the music too loud)

Also some thoughts.
Game was OK. I like what they did with Summons, the music for summons are epic. The game itself didn't feel like a main title Final Fantasy, more like it should have been a spin off game. The game can be summed up as a Great Idea but a very bad execution. The pacing of the story was all off, and quests were dull.

(didn't know we were doing a new thread)

>>163248428
I always thought he had a green pants under a blue jacket.

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>>163248292
dat OP

no fucked up thread number? check
no retarded [Embed]s? check

>The actual CCCLXXXVI thread.
nice thread name? check.

>>163248438
You can't data mine what isn't there. It will be put in during maintenance.

>>163248523
I know that, I just figured they would have added something by now. I've got that plebbit tab open.

>>163248560
The jewgle is wise in the ways of women. He will not let you see until he is ready for you to see it.

>>163248447
Noctis and Luna are dead. Remember that scene where Tidus and Jecht high-five? Kinda like that, even though they're dead.

>>163248438
wut

you get the data as maint ends...

>>163249094
No you don't, you see it as it gets added in.

So what are the best classes in FFIV:R?

Blue Mage seems interesting but it's lacking damage it seems.

>>163249317
um, you wait until you get everything it, analyze it, then present it...

>>163249571
That's not how this works, anon. The data gets "presented" as it's added. This isn't the first RK maintenance, you know.

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Post YRW dena figured out how to encrypt the data so it can't be mined until they flip the switch when the event starts.

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>>163249732
>post yfw they eliminated SL

Is FFEXVIUS good?

>>163249851
It's good if you like abusive relationships.

>>163249851
It's alright

>>163249903
this is so true it's not funny.

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>>163249795

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>>163249851
(You)
Why do people still respond seriously to obvious bait?

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>JP is getting 3 Christmas Lucky Draws that have great shit on them, as well as 25 mythril and other things like free MCs, a 5* armor, and 5* Dark Matter
>Global is getting 18 mythril

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>>163250073
the average japanese player also drops like 50 bucks every 2 weeks on the game.

>>163250073
>JP gets a Burst only Lucky Draw
holy shit

>>163250393
And it's actually half-price, unlike ours. They had another one during the anniversary, in fact their anniversary Lucky Draws were very similar to this (the last two draws were the same, but the first one was En-element instead of Imperil).

>>163250073
Lamo Gumi did it again XD
Oh wait

I can't even do the secret dungeon in XV. My game just lags completely and than I get the infinite loading screen mid battle.

Threadly reminder that Vayne Solidor did nothing wrong.


And for fuck's sake, do not lewd the True Hero, and do not imply that he has so shit a taste that he'd go for gabranth.

>>163250073
Its a little early to making a bold statement like that anon. It might hold true but we still don't know until maintenance is finished what we're getting, it could be much of the same.

>>163250791
Vayne Solidor is so frigid he sticks his badonkadong in beehives.

>>163250978
This doesn't even make sense.

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>>163250791
let's face it bro, Vaine has done al inds of kinky stuff with Gabranth heck he probably has done Ultros too, but well, Ultros does anyone close enought to his tentacles.

Are any of the story units worth a damn in Exvius? Or are they all complete and utter dogshit?

(FFXV) Who /permanent Aranea/ here?

So, the event rewards are total shit this time or what?

>>163251025
This is wrong for multiple reasons.
do not imply lewd things regarding the True hero.

>>163251025
>kinky
>not inky

>>163251037
Rain will be good next month when he gets his 6* and become the best full breaker until WoL and Agrias get theirs in a few months.

Lasswell will become an ok attacker if you're just starting and don't have great units to replace him.

But right now now? They're shit. You could still level up Rain to be ready for his awakening though, I'm pretty sure most people here are going to be using him for a short while.

>>163251037
Rain becomes pretty good when he gets his 6*, Lasswell still kinda sucks when he gets his but becomes not-terrible even later than that when he gets his unique gear and enhancements.

Other than that they all blow.

>>163251037
Fina has Cheer and Lid has Focus if you got no other units for those.

>RK data is finally coming
Neat.

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>Notice potentially good rewards on christmas event page
>Only for those who earned the most points
>Only good for whales with many OP units

You want to ignore it and pretend its not there, but you'll always be reminded of it.

Christmas is ruined.

>>163251501
It only takes a few lapis purchases to catch up anon... Come on, aren't you feeling the holiday spirit?

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>>163251517
IT BEGINS

>>163251517
Yeah no one saw that coming.

>they mess up yet another SB name that was named after a song
Have they ever gotten one of those right?

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OSBFEST

>>163251631
They've been fucking up tons of SB names in general. Quistis was Call Me King because Cardmaster King and now it's Hail To The Queen.

They also gave us "Nightmare" dungeons because you silly japanese people don't know good english, let us just change that to Nightmare for you and woops... Japan makes ACTUAL Nightmare Dungeons... which we are getting as "Torment" dungeons now.

Can't wait to see how they translate Clouds second BSB.

>>163251593

Gumi first, then I'll consider it.

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>>163251669
Show me the fucking banners.

>>163251669
>XIV banner 1 right in the middle of OSBfest
Damn son, I don't think RK can handle so many great banners in quick succession.

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>>163251717

>>163251669
Why is Minfilia Event suddenly named the same as Selphie event?

>>163251753
>OSB and 4 BSBs
Fuck yes!

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>>163251669
>tfw you was able to spent money on the SSB fest because you used to have an amazing job and had way too much spare money for shit like that... and now you're unemployed and on the verge of bankrupcy

>>163251753
Holy shit. All that on one banner.

>>163251753
>Shout on Banner 1
Fug. No draw for me then, since I'm waiting for XIV first. Plus already have Yshtola Wall.

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>>163251753

>>163251753
>already have Shout and Vanille's BSB as well as SG
Well, that's probably a pass for me. Damn nice banner though.

>>163251861
>already have Rosa and Porom's SSBs and SG
Fuuuuuuuuuck. I want that Luneth BSB.

>>163251861
Luneth and Tyro kinda saved that one.

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>>163251861

>>163251943
Think I found what I'm spending on.
Please RK, no Celescalibur dupes.

>>163251943
>EARLY AGRIAS BSB
whaaaaaaaaaaat

>>163248447
>Who is Ardyn and what is his purpose and goal?
Ardyn is an ancient member of the royal line of Lucis who had the power to cure the daemon-itis by siphoning the blight into himself. He tried to become king, but the Crystal rejected him due to the darkness in his body. Another of the royal line turned on him, called him a daemon himself, and banished him. However, the darkness he had taken in had granted him immortality. Whenever "killed" by normal methods, he just rejuvenates. He spent the rest of his time plotting a revenge against the line of Lucis, the Crystal, and the whole world after being consumed with spite and living far too long. At the point of FFXV's start, he's either going to completely destroy the line of Lucis and the planet, or die trying, and he's honestly fine with either.
>What was the ending with Noctis and Luna getting married or something. They both are dead.
Ghosts can be happy. Falling asleep is a major theme of FFXV. The necessity of resting and thus being at peace is echoed throughout in both story and gameplay (it's how you get EXP and delicious food buffs, and daemons roam at night).
>Why was Noctis stuck in a Crystal for 10 years?
The Crystal was channeling all of its light into the Ring of the Lucii. It's a very long process, and Providence could not be achieved without it.

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>>163251943

>>163251991
It's not early, it came out in OSBfest for JP.

>>163252028
Well they definitely saved the worse ones for after XIV goes live. Also Tyro listed as BSB lol.

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>>163252028

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>there isn't a single banner in this fest that has no relics that I already have
Fuck, I'm not even sure what to draw on.

Am I the only person on this planet without a Refia in FFBE

>>163252101
Well fuck, all the good ones are before XIV and have hella dupes for me on them and all the ones I dont care about go live after XIV.

Guess all my mythril goes to XIV then.

>>163252110
Er, I think I worded that wrong. I have at least one relic on all of these fest banners and that sucks.

>>163252101
Also that Tellah relic being there is hilarious.

>>163252164
yes

>>163252138
what will happen to Nightmare dungeons one these ones hit GL?

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>>163252138

>>163252164
Yes

>>163252138
Originally Nightmare dungeons in JP; where our Nightmares are called Abyss, but localizers decided to patronize the Japanese only to get bit in the ass.

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>>163252242
That's what can happen when translators decide to change names for literally no reason.

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>>163252217
It's still ongoing. Probably will be permanent after the remaining two are out.

>>163252164
If you friend me
you can borrow mine

>>163252323
I'm already looking forward to Japan introducing a Last Stand effect because they meant Guts as Guts and not Last Stand.

>>163251943
>they actually called it the Shikari Nagasa
Huh, I was expecting that to get changed to something completely random.

>>163252393
>to everyone*
*except for those guys it bugs out for this time and who will have to wait until all the banners are over to get it.

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>>163252101
>Want any of the BSB or the OSB
>Already have 3 of Gordon's Gungnir somehow
>Already have at least 1 relic on other banners aswell

>>163252451
Shoulda just called it T.G. Not even spelled it out.

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>>163252164

you're not alone, brother. I also lack Refia, but i have every other ranked healer though.

>>163252441
>and who will have to wait until all the banners are over to get it
Except they'll just extend the banners if that happens just like they did the first time.

Also I'm fucking disappointed that Firion's and Ashe's BSBs got the boot from this fest, I was really hoping to pull for them.

>>163252515
I've been saving for XIV for months and now the banners I dont care about are the ones that go live after it and the ones I do care about go live before it but are all muddled by 2-4 items on them that would just be dupes for me each. Fucking sucks. Hopefully XIV goes well for me at least and I'll have to leverage Orleandeau for a shot at Shout and Agrias BSB.

>>163252002
ok I get it now. Thank You

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>>163252506
Shit, I forgot that they've updated the rankings.

>>163252689
Christmas Wardrobe Record for Tyro fucking when

Is it possible to play FFR on a tablet?

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>>163252689
>Dr. Mog has a present for you!

OSBfest qtkeeper banner ratings:

>Banner 1
13/22

>Banner 2
9/22

>Banner 3
13/22

>Banner 4
8/22

>Banner 5
2/22 - literally the worst banner since the boys only banner, absolute garbage.

1 and 3 are pretty good desu, rest are pass-worthy.

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>>163252506
guess i never get bingo ;_;

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>>163252763
>>163252763
>r. Mog has a present for you!

>>163252798
Why out of 22?

>>163252689
Dr. Mog as a playable character when?
He should straight up be Tyro (all weapons/abilities usable) but better kupo

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So anons, now that we know the banners, what relics from each banner do you already have?

>1
Mistletainn, Platinum Sword

>2
Artemis Bow, Seraphim's Mace, Sentinel's Grimoire

>3
Celes' Excalibur

>4
Ninurta

>5
Onion Gloves, Gabranth's Hauberk

Probably going to spend 50 on banner 3. I want Luneth's, WoL's, and Noel's BSBs, but I'm wary of dupes or pulling something that's garbage like everything on banner 5 that isn't a OSB/BSB (other than that Vanille SSB that I don't need).

>>163252590
I've been saving for quite some time now, I was planning on spending 150 mythril on each of XIV and Orlandu. I can easily get away with spending 50 here and still have enough for Orlandu. Could even spend more if I wanted, I think.

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>>163252689
>More Cloud's Googles

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NEVER EVER

>>163252101
And there's my 11 draw banner

>>163252871
Oh hey, we're getting all the free shit that JP is.
Where are our lucky draws though, you fuckers?

>>163252848
just some workable way to tally the points up.
>4 for OSB
>3 for BSB
>2 for SSB
>1 for SB

>>163252889
Don't care about XI autism characters, so that's fine.

>>163252868
For me its all down to how my XIV draws go. I'm ready to go broke on it if I have to and I'd give XIV Banner #2 a pull too.

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Pulled her from a blue to gold crystal on my daily, can't even be mad. She's pretty good right?

>>163252983
yes

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>>163252920
The other one seems to be different than JP though.

>>163252921
So the XIV banner would be 17/19?

>>163252983
She's a very good Full Breaker, and when she stops being one of the best at that she still has an awesome 6* to look forward to.

>>163252983
She's okay. Her main function at the current moment is a Full Breaker, so she's about as good as Vaan and Warrior of Light.
She'll become amazing (top tier) once she gets her 6*, but that won't be for 5 months at least.

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>>163251517
Now fall!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqJRnD5HuZw

>>163253017
>28 mythril
Wait, did they add 10 MORE to that Chrsitmans game? And looks like they're just sticking the Locke accessory in instead of giving us free armor. Lame.

>>163253091
Good thing we picked the fire resist accessory just in time for her. Not like she was a tough as nails MP fight in Japan at the same time, too.

I like her theme so much more than Titan.

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>Banner 1
Important stuff:
Plat.Sword, Blood Sword, Y'shtola's WALL, Mistilteinn
have 3/9
- Plat Sword, Tiara, Y'shtola's staff
Draw?: No

>Banner 2
Important stuff:
Tyro's WALL, Gungir
have 1/9
- Stupid Armguard
Draw?: hahaha no

>Banner 3
Important stuff:
Ecalibur (FFT), Lightbringer (VI)
have 1/9
- Ovelia's staff
draw?: hell yes

>Banner 4
Important stuff:
Apocalypse (V), Arbiter's Apocrypha
have 1/9
- Penelo's staff
draw?: probably

>Banner 5
Important stuff:
Onion Gauntlets
have 0/9
draw?: yes if I still have mythrilGEMS available

also, check my dualcasted numbers

>>163253130
>I like her theme so much more than Titan
I don't Titan's can actually be called music.

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>>163252506
bingo!

>>163253165
That's the VI Excalibur with Runic, not Lightbringer (which is Celes BSB) mate.

>>163252868
>1
Minwu's staff and thyrus. The top load on this banner is insane, I would love any of the OSB or BSBs, shout would be okay (but I've got alone fine without it until now) and I'd love Terra's SSB as well since I have nothing for her. I would be pissed if I got any of the bottom 3 though, probably will have to pull though for dat top 6

>2
Just own SG on here but this banner looks fucking shit desu. If I got teedus' OSB I'd use it as a rosetta stone before even mastering it. And all the other characters on this banner that aren't quistis or rosa can fuck off. Luneth's a bro though. Not even thinking about pulling.

>3
Just own bartz' cloak. Have ark's other SSB, have vaan's BSB, and have agrias' shield so even though they aren't dupes I don't know how useful any of this shit would be. Don't have anything for eiko but I have multiple SBs for literally every other IX character so its RS can fuck off already. Kind of want to pull for maria's bow and another chance at literally anything for celes but there's just so much to go wrong on this banner. Might do 1 pull just incase

>4
Own penelo's SSB already. Own bartz's BSB and tyro's SG so their OSBs are probably kind of shit (is tyros even good with his stats?) Hope can fuck off. Yuna/paine relics only thing I even slightly want, will not pull on this shit.

>5
Own vanille and gabranth's already. Not even onion BSB can save this banner from hope's OSB. If I got his OSb I would unironically just sell it instantly, its not even worth the rosetta/synergy, fuck that guy. Could not not pull harder if I tried. I'm actually going to keep the 25 mythril gift in my inventory until this banner launches to claim it so its as if the game is paying me to not pull on this utter shit banner.

>>163253165
>Important stuff:
>Ecalibur (FFT), Lightbringer (VI)
I think you need to take another look.
Swap out Lightbringer for Hamelin and Rune-Graven Bow.
Unless you were referring to Celes' Excalibur there, that's pretty great too.

>>163253172
this. both are train wrecks but at least one sounds like a song.

>>163253063
>>163253038
So since I already have WoL on my team as my full breaker and tank I should just keep him and build her up ready for that 6*?

>>163253261
Theyre both better than super forgettable Ifrit in theory, but I just strongly dislike Titan.

Alexander is worse though.

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>>163253017

>>163253030
Yes.
unless people don't like qt alphinaud or can't pretend its alisaie in which case its 12/19 which is still pretty good all things considered

>>163252983

Some people might forget about it, but her Lance ability is really good in pvp and she can AoE Stop with her LB

Pretty good overall.

>>163253257
>tfw already have Hamelin and Rune-Graven Bow and Excalibur but really want Agrias BSB

>>163253172
You may hate heavy metal but it is still music.

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>>163252506
physical damage dealers never ever.

at least my Angry Forest is already 3/5

>>163253345
Nice armor but what about Eiko/kefka/Mog/Cait Sith record spheres?

>>163253381
I like heavy metal but Titan is fucking garbage. Garuda does it right.

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>>163253345
>a second copy of fat chocobo
>no way to fuse them together

It's 50 mythril for each 11 pull in the OSB fest right?

I only have 55 left...

>>163253431
Assuming you know it, what's your opinion on Alexander Prime's theme, 2nd phase?

>>163253438
you shatter it into usable orbs you dumb, fat, ugly slut

>>163253256
I think a lot of people here underrate Eiko's BSB. +Crit% is an amazing buff since it's essentially a damage boost that ignores the ATK softcap. It's probably the second best medica in the game behind Vanille's.

Also Tyro's is the worst OSB in the game by a wide margin. Not only is it coming from Tyro's weak ATK, but the multiplier on it is significaly weaker than every other OSB (average OSB is 12x, Tyro's is 9x and doesn't even have an element). The buff is also only 15%, completely negligible.

>>163253381
I don't hate heavy metal. Titan's theme is just garbage.

>>163253431
Garuda's theme is ordinary rock, not heavy metal.

>>163253374
>>163253374
Just wait until FFT 1st banner then.

I have Titus BSB, tempted to go for the OSB

>>163253512
They're both metal, just different subcategories. And Titan's falls into the garbage ones that pretend like they're still music.

>>163253480
Horrid.

>>163253512
it belongs in a garbage can either way tbqh

>>163253540
This desu, it has all of Orlandu's AND Agrias' relics aside from her meh SSB on it. It's a Holy Knight's wet dream. It also has two relics that are on this third banner (Agrias' BSB and Ovelia's SSB).

>>163253597
>>163253613
I don't know why you people exaggerate so badly. It's not that poor.

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>>163253439

>>163253695
I already have 6* Kaiser Shield and 6* Ovelia Staff though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-BFsmCK-hnU

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We can all agree this song is objectively garbage though
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdV_bzJgRxE

>>163253721
The thing is that Ifrit is forgettable, whereas Titans aggressively offends people because its impossible to blend into the background. Same as Rise for Alexander.

>>163253786
The best songs are Garuda, Ultima Weapon and Gilgamesh tbqh.

>>163253786
Sephirot's kind of a mixed bag. The its chorus is amazing, but the rest is trash.
~Retreat where lesser men lead, flee from what you do not see~

>>163253741
And no dupes for this banner aside form the Ovelia staff? I'd still say that Orlandu's is better if you're aiming for Agrias' BSB anyway, and it's not like getting a 8* Kaiser Shield would be such a terrible thing.

>>163253721
No, it's offensively bad. I fucking hate it a lot, and I'm not exaggerating at all.

>>163253210
Pretty sneaky sis

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>>163253786
Yeah, definitely can see why this game failed originally.

>>163253816
Rise is amazing. I'm afraid you have terminally shit taste.
The fact that most of the lyrics are utterly indecipherable works well for it.

BOW DOWN OVERDWELLER
BOW DOWN OVERDWELLER
BOW DOWN OVERDWELLER
titan and sephirot themes mashup for maximum offense when?!

>>163253960
This is the kind of stuff I want to hear for Alexander

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBhUwLxlKLU

>>163253786

Oh, you mean that song that sounds like "When Worlds Collide" by Powerman 5000.

https://youtu.be/lsV500W4BHU

>>163253816
Best XIV boss themes are Ultima, Final Steps of Faith, and Answers (Bahamut Prime ver.).

is it just me or does this Christmas event suck?

>>163254284
Oh right, I don't even count Answers as a boss theme. But yeah Answers is amazing. Though I just like the 1.0 to 2.0 transition version the best. I've watched the video of the live performance tons of times.

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>>163254229
anon we have talked about this before. I tought we where over it by now.

>Raid Launch Gifts on RK
>Difficulty 200 Gilgamesh

>decide I've run the maze enough
>time to proceed in the main quest
>get barraged in Lapis
fuck I forgot how this feels after a grinding event

>>163254470
"This actually isn't that far from the strongest of swords!"

>>163254498
>claim all
>suddenly get 200 nrg

>Free Lifesiphon

HHHNNNNNGH

>>163254498

Just finished the story today. I'm running out of Lapis to get besides a few areas on the first two islands.

>>163254545
Er, what?
I already have 3 of them honed up, I have no need for another one.

>>163251669
wew. getting some good shit this christmas! That's good cause my only gift this year is towels from work...

>>163254603
I only have one at rank 4, so this is quite good for me.

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>Apocalypse Gilgamesh

>>163252983
Once she gets her 6* + enchantments, she becomes literally Orlandu.

So yeah, she's pretty good.

>>163254470
>bring 4 fucking Gilgemesh's to battle him

>>163254698
>Apocalypse
Was Ruin not good enough or someting? This is gonna be Abyss/Nightmare/Torment all over again.

>>163254545
And here I was debating whether to craft a third Lifesiphon.

>>163254698
>Tried to do it
Much longer "Now Loading" message than usual and a bit of connection errors when I tried to change my team. I wonder if the servers are overloaded or something.

>>163254758
I never made Curaja. Now I got it for free.

>>163254758
>>163254813
wait, what?

STILL NO WORD ON

>Eiko/Kefka/Mog/Cait Sith Record Spheres
>Mind Break(down)
>Allegro Con Moto
>Other Event 23 skills

>>163254881
Curaga has always been fine for me, too. I use R5 Curaga for my heals, hits for like 3k-ish. I usually have major regen up at any hard fight so it's fine.

>>163254916
not that, we got free abilities?

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>>163254890
>>Mind Break(down)

>>163254945
Yes, they should be in your gift box.

>>163254945
Look at the announcments, anon.

>character swapping is finally fixed
Thank you jesus

Also where the fuck did cagnazzo go

>can't decide how to allocate my mythril to pull on all these banners
>probably won't end up pulling on any of them
send help senpai

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>>163252506
Do any of the 3* or 4* base ever catch up to the top 5 physical damage. Or is it pretty much whale territory.
I have 2 5* base but neither really seem to be worth much.

>>163254758
i already had 3. going to shatter this and hone my R2 one to R3. And glad to have a second curaja, going to shatter my curaga now. it's rare but I have have to run 2 cures

>>163255105
1. see something you want
2. roll on it
3. repeat as desired.

Fuck saving up (to an extent). There's always the next bigger power on the horizon. There's always a few fags here eternally cucking themselves.

>>163254890
I wish they would add more MC3s. I have two spheres just sitting with no characters to use them. Need

>Gilg
>Locke
>Arc

and would like
>Setzer
>Relm
>Bashe
>Palom + Porom
>Jecht
>laguna

guess I'll continue to sit on them

>>163255172
If we're talking about FFBE, there's no better banner than the FFX one with Rikku and Tidus.
Orlandu's great sure but his event was shit other than him. Balthier's the same, and it's a long, long, long time till Veritas of the Dark shows up.

>>163255172
There isn't even anything that's all that insanely power-creepy in RK these days, especially compared to before. So what you're saying isn't really accurate. You can save or spend now and there's no real downside to either.

>>163255109

>Do any of the 3* or 4* base ever catch up to the top 5 physical damage.

If you give them dual wield, sure; otherwise, not really.

CoD and Chizuru are exceptions though. CoD can hit damage cap in PvP due to so many man-eaters and Chiz can do chaining setups.

Elza and Ramza are pretty decent though.

>>163255441
>Balthier's the same
The fuck? Ashe and Rasler are both excellent, and the 3*s don't matter on any banner since they're 3*s.

>>163255441
No mythril in BE. Use your reading comprehension.

Gladiolus Survival is stuck at level 9 for me and hasn't budged at all. I've been running to every location in the game. What gives?

>>163255543
Wait, Ashe was on Balthier's banner? I must've forgotten, I thought they were split. Rasler's not that amazing, but I guess he works.
Guess I've got brain problems!

I've got three R4 Lifesiphons already, should I rev up a fourth or just shatter it?

>>163255587
run faster

>>163255609
>Rasler's not that amazing, but I guess he works
He's better than Ashe desu. A very capable tank that can chain and do damage very well, especially with an Orlandu.

>>163255469
as long as you can beat Nightmare dungeons you are fine, and those are more about party setup and strategy than good abilities, though you need those too. I'm just too lazy to beat all the nightmare dungeons cause I don't use 6* abilities, except aegis Strike cause that is free for a few 4* orbs and using it with holy boosting equipment is...ok.

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>everyone talking about RK again

What is the consensus on the XIV banner relics? I'm trying to plan how much mythril to drop. Both the new characters get BSB and SSB and Ysh gets her BSB and all her old shit. Are the BSBs the ones I should be aiming for or could I only end up getting minf/alph's SSB and settle with that? Y'sh burst I could take or leave since I got thyrus already

>>163255679
I mean any combo piece is serviceable, but he's not going to be the one shining bright if Orlandu or Balthier are around.

Woo Gilgamesh Apocalypse down first try. Team was amazing, my Beatrix was amazing, everything was Amazing, and a Bartz got the killing blow.

>>163255796
The BSBs are obviously the big prizes, but everything on there is at the very least GOOD so it's hard to get fucked on that banner.
Papa's SSB is the best Mage Shout in the game, Alph's SSB is a very nice buff that got a lot of recognition after Nemesis, and Minfilia's SSB is also very nice but is probably the one you want the least out of the "new" relics.

>>163255796
You could literally get 1 copy of every item on that banner and it would all be good.

Is Leviathan the best fight in XV?

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>>163256130
no

>>163256130
Leviathan is honestly more like a cutscene than a fight. A great one, no doubt, it's fun to play F/SN Gilgamesh for a bit, but there's basically no chance of losing and you mostly hold down one button while looking like a badass.
The best actual fight is Aranea by far.

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>>163255991
>been simulating pulls to get a feel for how much mythril I'd drop
>settle for any elfboi relic, and any minfie relic
>stop pulling when I get both of those things
>minfie's ssb is probably the one you want least out of the new relics
>tfw have to get minfie bsb now because I want her to be on my team forever

>>163256328
Don't listen to that shit, Shout-strength ATK buff and Guts is fine and she has 5* Support and a ton of other stuff so you can run her without a BSB just fine. Having that single ATK buff just means that you can get Onion or Cid or any other combo buff/Hastega and still have 50% ATK.

>>163256253
Why is Noctis such a goofball?

>>163256328
It's still useful, it's Shout but instead of Haste it gives Last Stand. It's the kind of SB you use if you have some other Hastega in your party.
Probably more something that would be used as an RW than in your party though, you generally don't want to load up on support SBs when you could be using at least some of those slots on damage.

>>163256253
>>163256323
Aranea goes from a 5/10 to a 10/10 in an instant when you realize you're supposed to warp-strike her in midair.

>>163256548
>SOON
He's already here.

>>163256470
but if its shout with last stand, couldn't you just use that shit with minfilia for the massive attack boost, and then RW onion BSB to enter god mode?

>>163256575
Yes. See >>163256449
Also please call it Guts.

>>163256575
Sure you can. I'd just use Onion instead though myself.

>>163255869
I want to try this, but my highest level character is 68. Also since both of them have counters I'm afraid I might mess it up for the other guys.

What's the strategy?

>>163256639
Using Onion with his BSB is the worst way of using Onion. He's better in-party with either his Slice or his Medica. His BSB brings absolutely everything it has in RW form, and often better on other characters.

>>163256676
>What's the strategy?
Hit Gilgamesh, Kill Enkidu when he shows up, then kill Gilgamesh. Bring KO resist accessories.

>>163256690
>and often better on other characters
Except the best thing you can do with it is Full Charge or magic spam, and he does that as good as anyone else or even better.

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>try multiplayer
>everyone brings a support and a healer
>first turn is often multiple shouts, protectagas, shellagas
>if you try to rearrange your party they just start before you're done

>>163256801
So bring your own Onion and then bring Onion BSB as RW and use it on him. You get full results from using it as a RW. But you need the Slice yourself. Though I still prefer his Medica, and his OSB will be the big thing anyway.

Onion BSB meme is just a western thing of uninformed idiots catching on that Onion is good from JP but not why he is good, and automatically jumping to "it must be the BSB" because unlike Japan who get brand new content and need to figure out what's good and understand it as a result, the west just regurgitates. Onion BSB is great.... as a RW.

>"So it begins"
>"No. Now it ends"

wow. this gave me chills. FFXV is an amazing game

>>163256845
>I brought a Yshtola with Wall.
>Some guy brought a Tyro with Wall and BSB.
>Neither of us brought Protectga or Shellga.
>I cast Wall Turn 1
>He casts BSB Turn 1
>Everything is fine

>>163256904
>So bring your own Onion and then bring Onion BSB as RW and use it on him
But then I'm sacrificing my RW slot for something when it's completely unnecessary to do so. Why the hell would I do that when I could use something else that helps my damage like Twin Star? That's fucking stupid. Onion BSB is excellent whether it's an RW or not, and I know that from experience, not from "regurgitating".

>>163255869
>2 butz in squad
>they don't have wind element

what fucking idiots are these?! You see Butz you assume they bring wind spellblade or SB

>>163253165
>Banner 1
Everything but the bursts/OSB and steiners armor, gonna be a high risk/high reward type pull because I really want those bursts/OSB

>Banner 2
Artemis Bow, don't really want anything there though

>Banner 3
Ovelia staff and Arc's robe, same situation as banner 1 but Banner 1 has more of my favorites on it

>Banner 4/5
have nothing want nothing besides OK tbqh

>>163256845
>everyone brings a support and a healer
I was actually just about to jump in with my Onion (BSB/SSB) and Vanille (BSB). Wish I had something else worth bringing really.
It was especially annoying when I got paired up with other Onons with BSB a week or two ago and they insisted on using their BSB first. I had no idea what to do since I was using Full Break and Full Charge and I didn't want to just overlap BSBs just so I could start spamming Full Charge.

>>163257008
You obviously don't need to RW it if you already have his BSB, but the ideal is to use him with anything but his BSB, especially his OSB. His BSB just isn't that mindblowingly better compared to his other SBs than everyone seems to think it is, when it comes to in-party use.

And yes I find it to be a better RW on other characters because I use it on Mages or Phys without Combat 4 to get the buff up and then let that character build to their BSB faster while giving them something good to do. Great results on a Runic'd Celes.

>>163256952
>Off my throne, jester. The King sits there.
Fuck yeah.

>>163256904
no way, fuck RW OK, RW wall every single time. Tyro sucks at everything except maybe multibreak. I bring OK and use his BSB then FB and Full Charge. bosses are melting at my offense
>Gilgemesh
>OK
>Locke
>Ashe
>healer, whoever

>>163257014
So far I've had good Buttz, good Luneth and good Cloud in both U+ and Apocalypse. First try victory on both.

>>163256952
Wow. I literally stopped playing the game at this part and returned it.

>>163257207
I use Yshtola's Wall and bring Shout or Onion. You can do the whole Full Charge gimmick with Onion RW just fine, and in general I don't know why people acted like Onion was the first ever character to have Celerity 5/Combat 5 combo. I've had it for ages. His BSB helps, but thats exactly why its just as good as RW, especially because it lets dudes without Celerity 5 do it.

I'm not saying its not good, I'm merely saying that people fail to see it in relation to everything else, where it's not the fucking messiah everyone plays it up as.

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>drop mythril on every banner her relics have appeared on since I start playing
>still no SB
>OSB and SSB on the same banner
is it finally time I might get an SB for her so she can go on my team??

probably not ; ;

>>163257207
>RW wall every single time
I've been bringing both Onion with BSB and Tyro as my "SB start" characters actually, and I'm thinking about dropping my Tyro myself. That Crisis Core Ultimate was a bit of a wakeup call, Tyro is having a hard time building up enough gauge for his second SG before the first one wears off.

>>163257321
>I don't know why people acted like Onion was the first ever character to have Celerity 5/Combat 5 combo
No one did. Hell, people were going on about Firion's BSB before Onion even came out. The point is that he does it for free.
Now I just use my Powerchain on some other unit for SB casts.

>>163257341
You'll never be satisfied until they make a wardrobe record with blonde hair anon. You know it in your heart.

>>163257395
I prefer green hair desu. This was just the first image of her I found scrolling through my folder

>>163257391
>
I've been bringing both Onion with BSB and Tyro as my "SB start" characters actually, and I'm thinking about dropping my Tyro myself. That Crisis Core Ultimate was a bit of a wakeup call, Tyro is having a hard time building up enough gauge for his second SG before the first one wears off.
That's no different for Yshtola. Both of them have access to Wrath though, and Tyro has access to Draw Fire and any backrow weapon and the heaviest armor you want, so he can not only eat counters for you but use it to charge up his wall.

>>163257471
The CC ultimate is a bit of an anomaly desu. He force stops your entire party and chews up an absurd amount of time off the SG buff during which you're getting at best half the SB gauge you would if you weren't stopped.

>p2w bullshit raids
thanks

>>163257321
>and in general I don't know why people acted like Onion was the first ever character to have Celerity 5/Combat 5 combo
>where it's not the fucking messiah everyone plays it up as

>Things no one has ever said
We all know that it's great, and that it's just as good as an RW. The only thing people have said here is that Onion himself can get just as much use out of it as anyone else. I'm not sure why you're saying otherwise.

>>163257543
I know he did that, but that happened to everybody and everyone. Like that was literally his gimmick: Running out your buffs. It's not gonna be a common occurence, it was just that guy and his Stop was a cheaty Stop that ignored Affliction Break and everything.

However, dispelling/overwriting your wall with breaks is gonna become more common, so consider the SB charge stuff mentioned. That's also why I think the LMs with Extended Buff Duration are crap compared to something that helps charge them: Extended Duration doesn't help you against dispel/overwrite, Recast does.

>>163257471
I've been using Tyro with Full Break/Breakdown and Onion as just as all out damage character with Lifesiphon/Full Charge, but he rarely uses Lifesiphon so I guess I could swap Full Break in on him. I'd just prefer for him to constantly be on the attack.

>>163257623
>Things no one ever said
Thread was full of that shit dude. You can portray it like it wasn't now but it was full of overhype.

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Anybody got a download link to FF15's ost, please?

>>163257662
What enemies throw DEF/RES breaks at you to overwrite your wall?

>>163257724
Well Tyro really has the flexibility to do anything, and if you need SB charge he has a variety of ways like Wrath or Lifesiphon or Draw Fire or straight up Drawtaliate if the fight allows. Draw Magic aswell of course, and he can easily be backrow and equip whatever armor is the most advantageous to the fight and his setup. If you have an Imperil or fight something with a weakness you can just make him hit that and charge SB that way.

I'm stuck with Yshtola as my wall and Tyro seriously has so many ways to get his SB up compared to her.

>>163257571
lmao git gud scrub

>>163257786
JP stuff has started doing breaks on characters to kill your buffs. Shout already breaks just from an ATK break after all. Plus there's "Dispel all white magic buffs" enemies around, too. I think we've had like 1 or 2 of them, like Atlas.

>>163257734
>You can portray it like it wasn't now but it was full of overhype
And it was pretty much all deserved. The only other things we had that filled that role were Shout and Sheepsong, and neither of those things came with free Powerchain. It's a dman good SB that's great when used natively or not (thanks to Onion's high MND) and it obliterates Shout as an RW since it comes with Burst commands.

It IS a big deal. No one claimed that it was the be-all end-all though, people were just excited for it.

>>163257764
WAKE UP MOOGLE

>>163257571
No that's Torment dungeons where you need p2w synergy for every realm.

>>163257861
I'm asking about DEF/RES breaks that specifically break your Walls, since that's what was brought up to begin with. And Dispel spam has nothing to do with any of that, we all know that's coming and it doesn't do anything to stat boosts.

>>163257321
people have been wanking to cel/comb 5 since full charge and powerchain came out, it's nothing new.

Yshtola's wall I have and meh, unless I have a medica for her it's a waste to bring, I have Arc's insta medica and renewing rains so no other healer compares.

I chased Shout like a mother fucker for a while but when I got it I found no use for Ramza in my party. Sometimes I brought him instead of Tyro, but he's kinda an underwhelming character. If I want a breaker I bring someone else usually. but thinking on it now, I should have tried to fit him in more often, it was probably lack of trying on my part (and lack of need)

>Iggy is blind now
FUCK

>>163258026
and no one knows why unless you pay for the dlc :^)

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>>163257471
despite tyro's access to gear he hits like a wet noodle and tanks like a wet towlet

>>163258071
>Implying I'm not getting the DLC anyway

>>163258101
He has tons of HP to make up for it. Stoneskin 30% will be pretty good on him for that.

>>163258101
Meh, his HP is fine and his defenses in general are just as good as Onion's (meaning not very, but not too terrible). If you have a synergy armor, sticking it on him and putting him in the back row to Draw Fire isn't such a bad idea.

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>Blow all my resources on this Noctis banner
>"Odds are slim I'll get Noct but at least I'll get a Chorizo!"
>No Noct
>No Chorizo

Getting Merc on the daily pull today is barely any consolation, I suppose she's better than Bartz for my third physical attacker since she at least has a cheer that probably doesn't stack with Lenna's, so when (if) I pull a better healer I won't miss the buffs.

>>163258168
>>163258176
maybe if you spend a ton of 3* orbs on him, but I find that a waste. I did a bit to get his white magic up a while ago but now I find it was a waste of orbs.

>>163258289
Are you referring to motes? He doesn't need those. I mean I'd use some anyway since they're just 3* motes and they're fucking everywhere, but it's not much of a boost.

>>163258289
>orbs
sphere's I mean...

Anyone looking to make a Gilgamesh Apocalypse party?

>>163258358
>fucking everywhere
Except vitality. Vitality is the bottleneck for 3*. Dexterity for 4*.

>>163258428
yes, I am set up currently with Arc and Gilg, I can switch to OK or Tyro instead if you need

>>163258476
I'm just doing a pub run, I'll check in afterwards.

>only thing I wanted from osb fest was Ashe bsb
>It's not in globals osbfest

Thanks dena

>>163258525
k, I'll will do a random as well for now. This is worth grinding, hell in ulti I got a major orb drop

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>Steiner can now equip 5* Spellblade abilities

>>163258605
So is Garnet gonna get 5 WHM so she can cast Holy now? 'cause Steiner apparently got his own Pocket Vivi.

>>163258592
it's great :^)

>Get a rainbow in FFBE
>OH SHI-
>Refia

Is this what causes people to quit?

>>163258669
Shame her LM makes her a one-trick-pony compared to the other Black Mage LMs.

>all this free shit
>all these banners
BASED DENA

RECORD KEEPER WILL NEVER DIE

>>163258780
you told me it died when exvius released

>Onion killed by the first Zantetsuken
Fuck, I thought Moderate KO protection would be enough to stop a 9% chance of Death.

>>163258840
I don't play that, I'm loyal to my first mobage

>>163258840
People are more likely to quit Exvius with it's shit rates.

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>>163258697

STEP INTO THE STORM
KNOW ITS MERCY
LET THE WIND AND THE RAIN CRASH DOWN OVER THEE

>>163258878
No protection is enough to stop idiots from damaging Gil into Zantetsuken Range before Enkidu is even dead.

>>163258840
BE is dead

>>163258910
He can use Zantetsuken from the moment Enkidu appears, though.

Fug guys how am I supposed to divvy up my mythril on all this shit?
>OSB 1
>OSB 3
>XIV
>Brolandu

please no gems

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>get in the car in xv
>chocobo dubstep plays

Record Keeper is boring imo

>>163258908
that pose is doing funny things to me

>>163258908
This is why I moved to JP.

>>163258476
>>163258603
Think my leader bailed, got disconnected. I'm ready if anyone else is.

Can only really bring Onion and Vanille. I also have Bartz, Delita, and Celes SSBs but I don;t think they'll help much. Can technically also bring Tyro or Ramza too, but they only have SG and Shout and I think Onion would be a better addition.

What I'm trying to say is I don't have much for great damage SBs.

>Everyone talking about OSB and XIV and Orlandu

Man you made me excited but none of that is actually up.

>>163259045
you're boring imo haha

>doing great, wall and protectaga/shellaga up, breaks in effect
>Zantetsuken
>3 dead

>>163259178
sorry senpai

>>163259112
k, I'm still in with Gilg and Arc, arc can renewing rains for shell/protectaga

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The Goddess is here!

We did bros...

I thought when Noctus went to BE first, it was all over...

but based DeNA came through...

Record Keeper remains the number one mobage...

>>163259279
So you're bringing Protectga? Guess I'll just bring Esuna then.
Esuna doesn't heal Berserk, does it?

>>163259348
Who cares they're both shit.

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Could be possible Global gets this sooner, even if it's not been datamined. There's no event banner for it.

>>163259348
Noctis went to BE first, in an overpowered form of course, because its a huge cash grab for them and makes idiots spend thousands to get him.

He will get a proper and much more balanced introduction into RK very likely. His skillset could be all over the place. We've seen extreme bias like Luneth or Lightning, we've seen pretty balanced ones like Cloud or Bartz and we've seen characters super popular in JP like Tidus and Yuna have shit skillsets, so it's all up in the air.

>>163259437
No.

>>163259375
sure does. anyone know how to setup a private room?

>>163259112
just join reddit rooms lmao

>>163259479
Joe.

>>163259471
>Noctis went to BE first, in an overpowered form of course
>Was nerfed
Yeah okay

>>163259493
Just hit multiplayer rain and go in as normal, then select Recruit a Party and put in a Raid ID.

>>163259548
Nerfed after they grabbed all the Yen.

>>163259437
>noctus
>not the true hero Ardyn

>>163259569
got it, raid ID is very tricky....

1111

>>163259606
Well done, anon. Very private.
Pretty sure we always go with 7243 here

>>163259606
Might wanna say your name since Raid IDs arent unique, it will merely filter for all rooms that used 1111.

>>163259437
Hopefully he comes out ahead of schedule here, we have this engine blade that's pretty much useless right now.

>>163259606
anyone else want in? we still need
>wall
>wind damage

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>want to do multiplayer with anons
>too scared I'll fuck up/ruin it for people

>>163259686
It's also pretty much gonna be useless then, given that its Gold Sword tier. Unless for kinda cruddy synergy.

>>163259676
He's actually the only one there suprisingly enough, and he said what his party was (Arc/Gilg) anyway.

>>163259726
All you need to know is what roles need to be filled, and that you have to focus on Enkidu when he shows up instead of attacking Gilg the whole time.

>>163259657
>>163259676
sorry, didn't know about that. Iredella is name

>>163259697
Alright, I'm in for wind damage. Changed abilities, it just isn't showing

>>163259726
You're already better than everyone who doesn't spare a thought to acting responsibly toward the rest of the party.

>Change Vanille's Protectga to Esuna
>still shows up as Protectga on the main party menu but not on her status
panic

party looks good to me. Anything we missing?