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/smtg/ - 真・女神転生/Shin Megami Tensei General

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Participate in the current /smtg/ sings:
http://collabedit.com/uvwta
http://pastebin.com/dKLqugTC

>Starter guide
http://i.imgur.com/zJcYpuE.png

>Tips and tricks
http://pastebin.com/sBJjhw7f

>Artbook, soundtrack, manga, and other downloads
http://pastebin.com/NqLRYf5n

>OST links
http://pastebin.com/kLbYxjFU

>Misc. translations
http://pastebin.com/pgEWmYfH

>Booru
http://smtg.booru.org/

>Recommended reading
http://pastebin.com/ByiXrDGX

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>>163202704
1st for Nemissa
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>>163202704
Thanks OP, you're a swell guy.
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In Devil Survivor's Yuzu ending, was it confirmed that the world outside the Yamanote Line was also infested with demons? Or was it the protagonist and friends who let the demons out when they escaped?
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Tips for Strange Journey? Got the Support Spec'd Demonica, will that screw me over later on?
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>finish playing DDS1 for the day
>hear a commercial from a frozen food company called Devour
I can't escape
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>>163204584
what result you get makes only a small difference. Even if the quiz makes you specialize in one stat it might wind up being one of your lowest ones somehow. Luck is considered the balanced choice.
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I want to create a world where the strong shape the world.
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>>163209892
I murder you for being an unfunny faggot trying way too hard to force a meme.
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>>163209986
I got blown the fuck out so hard I'm gonna delete my post and go take a nap....
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Good SMT writing when?
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>>163209667
A world of strong?
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>>163210124
A world of strong and demon babes.
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>>163210072
And this folks is what you'd call a world of STR.
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>>163204584
Always fuse your demons. If you go to a new sector and haven't encountered a demon before, it'll show up as a static blue blob that you have to guess with skills to kill and if you screw up badly you'll die. If you fuse new demons constantly, you'll bypass that as well as knowing the weaknesses for demons in the new sector. Have at least a few demons that are present in the sector in you party, as you can skip fighting and get items through talking to the same demon. There's a sub app that allows you to fuse demons using their current level, and not the base level, which is useful for fusing. There's also another app that allows you to speak to demons during a full moon. They'll either attack, give you items, leave, or join your party (the demon's response is random so one reply that works for a demon might not work again for the same demon) And most importantly, trust him
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I'm playing SMT1, does anyone have a map of the second floor of Shibuya? I tried looking it up on gameFAQs, but the map on there is so small that it's impossible to read.
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in SMT1, whenever a human party member leaves, it seems like some flag is fucked where the game seems to think my party is full

is this normal? i can only have 5 members in my party right now
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>>163210307
Forgot to add that some demons are only available through fusing or talking to during a full moon, mainly the Reaper race. Always do enemy search to get items that sell for a lot of macca, even if you encounter skeletons
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>>163210414
That's normal. They end up rejoining you later on so the game does that to make sure you always have a spot available for them. That stops happening after they leave you permanently.
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>>163209667
A world of AGI?
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>>163210110
Read the college Digital Devil Story thesis that some guy wrote.
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>>163210904
Nah, world of BUFU
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If you could remove one demon from the entire series, who would it be?

Hard Mode: don't choose an obscure demon that no one remembers.
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>>163211385
Mothman, because he's stupid.
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>>163210398
Nevermind, I found my way out somehow. Those dark zones are a real pain in the ass.
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>>163211602
But Mothman endures.
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>>163211602
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>killing my friends with Demonee-ho
Holy shit my demons are total crap and I need to grind and fuse a lot to have a chance against Flynn
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>tfw Nocturne and both DDS games coming in the mail and I have a week off coming up
I'm pretty hype desu
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>>163214284
>buying smt games

lmao
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>>163214284
>buying games
roflmao
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>>163214654
>>163214673
I'm a collectionfag I've also found that I am more motivated to actually play and beat games if I have a psychical thing.
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>want to buy that Satan statue
>family is religious
Should I hide Satan on my closet or what?
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>>163214889
>if I have a psychical thing.
Teach me your secrets, sensei.
>>163215090
Why would you pay money for a statue you're gonna toss in a closet? Move out, idiot.
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>>163215090
Just tell them it's an angel or something
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>>163203797
I think demons were unleashed by your crew escaping. Given the WHOLE POINT OF THE QUARANTINE WAS TO STOP THAT.
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>>163210110
Only in DeSu1, Persona, Soul Hackers, and Catherine.

>>163209667
chaoscucks got btfo the fuck out so hard in 4A I don't see why they would ever show their faces around here. Their leader is brainwashed to be completely unable to accomplish the only goal he has.
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Egoism route when
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>>163213583
kek
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>>163214284
I'm gonna pick up Quantum Devil Saga after waiting a full month for it.

It's gonna be nice to read it in my off week while eating Christmas snacks.
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Why is Sukuna Hikona one of the few demons in Apocalypse with a brain, right along with Inanna and Adramelech?
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>>163220107
>innana
>brain
lmao
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>>163220210
Anyone in her situation will try to get as far away from Danu as they can.
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>>163220107
Because bad writing.

Im still pissed that we couldn't choose a route with the Divine Powers and all we got is massacre and boring as fuck Bonds. All I wanted to bro it up with Krishna and the gang.
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>playing Desu
>menu music playing
>roommate of asian descent comes in dancing
>knocks 3ds off my hand
wtf /smtg/
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>>163216810
I feel bad for chaosbros.
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>>163220107
Inanna is awful
>>163221518
I love Krishna. Honestly thought I would have the chance to follow him until flynn cut him up ;_;
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Listening to some Devil Survivor music rn.
It's pretty rad.
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>>163216810
>Soul Hackers
Seriously? I always thought it to be like the most underrated megaten game ever
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>>163222886
Don't let your asian roommate come in.
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>>163221518
Apocalypse was written with focus on the human characters in mind. The producers wanted the players to care about the main characters, they didn't expect the Divine Powers to be very popular or right in their views. What doesn't help is humanity in Apocalypse being written as mindless Flynn drones.
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>>163222402
>Honestly thought I would have the chance to follow him until flynn cut him up ;_;
>Not going Massacre
wwwwww
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>>163222962
Every time.
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>>163223113
Sorry I went full Bonds because I didn't want to see the face of sadness and disappointment on my one true best friend Hallelujah
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>>163223251
fag
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>>163216810
Chaos is instead portray as tragic victims trapped in a cycle of suffering. Well mostly Lucy and Samyaza.

Adramnelech is a pretty cool guy even if his role to be nothing but a cockass.
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>>163223410
Belial and Lucifuge also calls out the MC on being pants on head retarded. You know the plot is bad when Chaosfags are going "Oh shit, what are you doing?"
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>>163222997
The Powers goal was SJ Chaos anyways but with a giant poo slurry as a temporary afterlife.

Besides they obviously knew what they were doing.
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Megami Tensei needs more cute boys
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>>163223690
Fujos please go and stay go.
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>>163223315
Yeah whatever. By the way, how did you know? Is Krishna's demise different on the massacre route? Guess I'll have to get that done eventually
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>>163223617
Only Doi knew what he was doing, he was simply too based.
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>>163223690
More *edgy men, fixed that for you.
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>>163223873
Yaoi is the future of SMT
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>>163223890
Nanashi can wield Masakados too.
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>>163223873
Might sound hard to believe but cute boys =/= fujos. Also I hope you realize they went out of their way to describe the very first megaten protagonist as being "a cute boy"
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>>163224213
Good thing YHVH nuked his ass/Lucy got hi bitch ass murdered by Izanami.
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>>163223890
>Is Krishna's demise different on the massacre route?

>*laughs edgily*
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>>163223690
agreed, but we've got a good selection so far
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Smirking cute boys are the future
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>>163224213
Are you saying he isn't the peak of masculinity?
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>>163224595
Died like a bitch in every universe
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>>163223690
Cute boy demons are fine too. Especially useful ones.
Even if Maha got nerfed in IVA (no more salvation), he gets doping now and was still a magic and healing beast.
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What build should I do for IVA? Did MAG in IV and it was okay I guess.
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>>163224828
He simply got crippled.
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>>163225251
That's Stephen Hawking. Nakajimas cooler, prettier, smarter, stronger older brother.
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New Atlus game. Persona 5 director and Soejima as artist. Full reveal in Famitsu. Fantasy RPG.

http://www.famitsu.com/news/201612/20123396.html
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>>163225438
mit b cool
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>>163225438
It's gonna be mobage. Screencap this, it will happen, I promise, Kaneko is my cool uncle that only visits us for Christmas.
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>>163225419
At least Nakajima could get a qt gf, unlike Stephen who became a creepy old lolicon.
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>>163225578
http://rpg.jp/
Seems like an actual new title for console. Hashino is producer/director.
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>>163225438
>soejima
into the fucking trash
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>>163225438
Finally, the long awaited announcement of Dragon's Dogma x Persona.
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It will be Last Bible 4 but with Personas.

Party members will include a Baby Dragon, a Squirrel, and Lucifer.
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>>163226659
Revelations: Persona finally returning to its roots? Sure, what the hell.
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>>163226659
It will be an RPG about purging infidels from the holy land, Deus Vult
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Every time I start to get a handle on things in SJ, the game finds another way to fuck me up the ass.
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>>163226975
>Jewish knife eared
Into the trash it goes.
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>>163226975
That foes with what I just said, with corrupt adults running the police.
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>>163227031

Stupid sexy Lucy
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>>163226975
So still Last Bible.

>The Final Boss is the Bible and not just the Bible BUT EVIL!
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How much does demi-fiend bench?
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>>163230015
As much as the vast majority of SMT characters.
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http://www.strawpoll.me/11542461
vote
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Anyone have advice on the first Krishna fight? I'm playing on Apocalypse now, level 62 with Alice, Black Maria, and Loki with some other demons, but no matter what, as soon as Hallelujah casts Enduring Cheer, everything goes to shit.
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>>163231362
Want to say Nocturne but I'm only halfway through it and other than it all I've played is IV.
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>>163231362
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>>163230015
demi-fiend doesn't lift at all

he takes illegal magatamas to get his strength
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>>163231541
Nocturne is the best SMT, It's so much better than all the other games I recommend that everyone who hasn't played it yet for them to play it last.
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>>163231541
You know that Nocturne is the best just from watching the intro videos. Seriously those are rad as fuck
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>>163231908
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXjxLUDq1Uc
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>>163222997
To be honest, humanity is still written better than it was in SMT4. In 4 pretty much everyone in Tokyo was even MORE pathetic.

How the fuck did DeSu2 come up with a more genuine bunch of friends than these assholes?
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>>163231908
>>163232078
I watched both every single time they played.

The original one hyped me up, and the second one cured my saltiness from dying.
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>>163231362
>First
>Implying she'll dump him for others

Fucking bitches and whores
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>>163232193
what was cat gut sushi's plan?
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>>163231362
>the best gameplay
>in third
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>>163231402
>using Alice and Hal
>still losing
I got nothing. That's the advice I'd give.
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>>163232245
To let the strongest human reshape the world.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2u6cMThHc1w
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>>163232305
The writing is just THAT bad.
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>>163232453
nah man, he just wanted to eat all the maggot sushi and was too lazy to gather it himself
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was Lucifer erally the bad guy, /smtg/
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ONE MORE AMBASSADOR REFECTED
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>>163233649
Lucifer's not a good guy, but it's pretty clear that YHVH/The Great Will is the big bad guy of SMT
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>>163233649
yes yhvh too but yes
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>>163233834
Those shots are so good they HAVE to be staged. Unless the gunman posed for glamor shots after the fact.
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>>163234157
>not bringing your cameraman to all of your shootings
Fucking plebeians.
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>>163234313
you aint tricking me into revealing the MO for my shootings that easy mister government man
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>>163233649

If you're Law then most definitely, neutral and it depends on the game really.

Is he really Chaotic in all iterations of SMT games though? I'm a Neutralfag, but at times I just really do not feel like killing or even fighting Lucifer. He's either a bro or at least very charismatic and persuasive in his arguements
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>>163232403
Wow turns out all I had to do was go in with full assist gauge. Took him first try once I did that.
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>>163233649
No YHVH forces him to be the bad guy.
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>>163233649
Megami Tensei II revealed he wasn't. Now they gotta make him bad to make YHVH eviler.
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>>163234965
>not Toki
Gaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay
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>>163234965
not isabeau
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Is there a 3DS emulator?
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>>163235707

There's Citra but it's not a fully functional emulator. Some games won't play at all, some with massive glitches/freezes, some with FPS issues even with the ghetto frame limiter they have, some work perfectly and some only work with one version of the game and not later patched ones (Devil Overclocked apparently does not work with v1.1). There's also customized versions of it that are better suited for certain games, although I've never really delved into it so I don't know TOO much about that part
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>>163235221
>>163235427
Not Inanna and I don't fuck monkeys and am not into NTR.

Hallelujah fits my god brood geneticswise and is the most fertile. All the mpreg fanart posted here clearly says so!
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>>163236969
i have never seen mpreg art on smtg
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>>163237023
Then you were lucky anon.
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>>163232245
To groove.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNUTOlOljiA
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>>163232559
>Even fucking TMS somehow has better writing and gameplay than 4A
How do you lose to idols? fuck man
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>>163238173
By somehow respecting the source material more. "lol all your alignments are lies lets go kill record scratch with the power of edge/friendship".

And also not using fucking Press "Oh boy I have more actions than I can possibly use!" Turn any more.
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>>163236015
Soul Hackers and SMTIV will have to wait then
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>>163238325
>he doesn't like press turn
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Strange Journey on Wii U Eshop when?
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>>163238325
>And also not using fucking Press "Oh boy I have more actions than I can possibly use!" Turn any more.
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WHY WON'T THE DEMON SKILL EDITOR ON POWERSAVES WORK PROPERLY
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>>163234518
>Is he really Chaotic in all iterations of SMT games though?
Yes, although he will show different sides of Chaos in different games.
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>>163238325
Please, remind me how idolshit with more of a focus on Awakening than any other FE game, and almost zero SMT presence aside from spell names, respect the source material more than Apocalypse?
Because I'm pretty sure that TMS is a the game version of taking a rancid shit on someone's roast chicken dinner.
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>>163242391

Doesn't help either Atlus "localized" it for English audiences as well.
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My friend wants to get into SMT and only owns a 3DS. He's into vaporwave and native american mythology, so I gave him Soul Hackers, and that was totally why and not because it's been my favorite SMT forever.

I think I did good so here are his initial thoughts

>i just watched save the green planet and hate everything so im starting soul hackers. dat quality opening amv
>it was good
>i like it
>a lot
>i liked the summoning, nemissa and hitomi seem to be...uh..
>im surprised there isnt more urgency about that
>lol
>i just saved though, sleep soon
>i will say it was like
>"wow this weed stuff tastes weird."
>soulhackers: "oh thats not weed stuff."
>soulhackers: "that's peyote."
>"OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH"
>>reality bleeds apart
>>fucking wolf dog
>"I AM KINAP COME WITH ME HE OF STRONG SOUL"
>"...god?"
>kinap kidnaps
>anyways, imma go
>its neato
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>>163245035
>He's into vaporwave
Break his 3DS.
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>>163245035
Nice!
add more boys to the megaten army
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>smtv never ever confirmed


AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAH
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>>163238325
>not liking Press Turn
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The encounter rate in Tower of Kagutsuchi is atrociously high. I have estoma up constantly and yet im still being thrust into battle every 3 steps

I JUST WANT TO FINISH THIS DAMN TELEPORT MAZE

AAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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>>163247429
Pleaheese do not bull the Jack Frost, ho.
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>>163223890
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Thank you Gaston
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>>163249047
40 hours in nos and she still doesn't seem that bad
Asahi on the other hand has been a shit partner; 0/10 would not acknowledge as Pascal.

Don't tell me you guys hate her because she's group mom instead of being thirsty for shota dick like the rest.
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> suggest pascal as asahi's hunter name
> she rejects it utterly
Bitch.
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>>163210915
>college Digital Devil Story thesis
What.
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>>163238325
>hates press turn
>likes the "exploit a weakness and then have your party automatically attack for you"

It all makes sense.
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>>163240136
No scrubs allowed.
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>>163245035
I have the feeling that this is not a real story.
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>>163238993
>>163240051
>>163247196
>>163255694
Dudes Press Turn is so goofily unbalanced that Atlus had to make all the SMT4 post game bosses literally throw a tantrum if you were too good at the game. And in 4A they just lol at it giving you Pierce and every late game boss spams almighty.

It's not like you have to think real hard about press turn. You have like 6-8 actions each turn. You don't have to choose wisely for action efficiency. You got more than enough for attacks, heals, debuffs. Only way a boss can pressure you is with instakills.

Even Atlus figured out this shit is too cheesy for them to balance.
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>>163242391
That's how bad Apocalypse is. It's worse than that.
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>>163247139
SMTNIGGERS BTFO THE FUCK OUT

FF WINS AGAIN
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>we will divide the administrative authority across all humanity using the data for each human stored in the akashic record
Good grief they're just making this shit up as they go along.
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>>163257307
Dialogues in boss battles are not a new thing, not to mention that they are more of a story element, with the optional choice to increase/decrease your and/or the boss' power.

Almighty is there so you don't null or repel every attack your enemies do by lategame. Even if you removed "lose turns" system from nulling or repelling, if the game didn't address that you have all the means to never be damaged by an enemy, it would still be a major issue if almighty didn't exist.

But I consider that having 3-4 optional extra turns to heal, revive, buff, debuff, cancel effects, recast or change the ocasional demon, charge/concentrate and then attacking, all feels satisfying. Maybe you have a gripe against the combat of the IV saga, but for me the press turn system is a good RPG mechanic that feels satisfying, especially because it applies both ways, so you don't neglect building a good party.
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https://www.etsy.com/listing/499402797/shin-megami-tensei-english-snes-ntsc

Anyone know if they use the Orden fixes? The original patches had bugs and shit.
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>>163260530
By tantrum I meant literally the post game bosses would just spam almighty attacks if your party was built too well.

My issue is that almighty has to exist because the difference between 4-8 actions and just having 1 is so enormous that reflection/whiffing is dominant beyond any other strategy.

I don't think Press Turn is bad. I agree it has a satisfying feel (but losing your entire turn on a miss is anti-satisfying) even if it is swingy and hard to balance. But I think you have to abandon it eventually or significantly change it if you want to shoot for deeper combat eventually.

I argue that TMS is smarter in this regard largely because you don't have enough actions to do everything, attacking comes at an opportunity cost of not being able to clean up your messes, whereas attacking enables that in press turn, and the random equivalent of smirking, getting a duo art or ad lib, is even more satisfying than racking up turns. And shutdown by blocking/dodging is no longer so incredibly powerful by not linking it to the press turns.

There's value in both systems though for sure.
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>>163261159
That's fair. I think Press Turn covers its own niche that many fans enjoy, but that doesn't mean every game must use it.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOOOBwO5prk
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Hi /smtg/. Suggest a demon and I'll draw it in ink.
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>>163264091
Ishtar.
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>>163264091
Jack Frost.
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>>163264091
Mothman!
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>>163264091
Scathach.
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Played IV, IVF, Soul Hackers, P1 - P4 and I want to tackle Nocturne on Hard

How balls to the wall am I going here?
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>>163264905
Just play on Normal, Hard is not worth it, especially if it's your first time playing.
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>>163264905
All hard does is make the game grindy. On normal you can go through the whole game without grinding.
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How do you know where you are in SMTII? I don't see any signs anywhere and the auto map doesn't tell you what town/dungeon you're in.
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>>163265939
You have to be a citizen of Tokyo
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Not sure what to do in Apocalypse
Fagda's a total cunt
I don't feel like sticking with the other faggots either
Is there any way to summon Masakado like in SMT4 to get this over with already?
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>>163268350
Endure Dagda for now, and you will kill absolutely everyone later.
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>>163264115
How's this?
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>>163268656
Oh shit why didn't it rotate?
I'll try to fix it.
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>>163251294
A lot of the hate that Nozomi gets comes mainly from her supporting Danu's views despite being told multiple times that staying in the current universe is bad. Even if YHVH gets taken out, he'll just come back in a few centuries and subjugate humans in the current universe, or if she doesn't play ball with Tokyo-chan, then she'll summon some messiahs to take Nozomi out.
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>>163269057
Wouldn't he just come back as high tier demon like Baal instead of as a creator god?
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>>163264180
Here you go.
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>>163269670
That's actually a great pose
Love it, m8
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>>163269440
Yeah, but since Atlus is too lazy to create new artwork for YHVH, he'll just come back as Metatron
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>>163268656
Thanks anon, I like it.
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I love MegaTen.
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>>163269057
I think it's fair to be mad about being ground up as building material for a new universe.

The problem is she isn't told that. The entire Fagda Danu argument doesn't even mention record scratch. Atlus clearly wants the choice to be between friends and new humanity. They don't talk about the retarded "which plot hole magics can save us from the stupid yellow bastard plot hole" until after the deed is done.

Nozomi and Danu have no argument to beat the Scratchmaster as they aren't even invited to the table for that conversation.

There's just as much supporting evidence that observing Scratch fixes most of the issues but then you have the awful plot of "we wrote a universe where nothing good can ever happen and all heroism is futile. How do we fix it? Look at a cartoonishly evil yellow dude or make a new universe?"

Nozomi also gets to be the plot device for the incredibly corny NANASHI BETRAYED US arc.

Plus Atlus wrote a blonde hottie battling demons with a shotgun in post apocalyptic Nippon and made it boring. That takes skill that only the dopes who gave us SMT4 could master.

tldr it's bad writing all the way down
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>>163264091
Chemtrail
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>>163269670
Wow, this is great.
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>>163270574
Wasn't Nozomi an average looking chick with brown hair before becoming Queen of the Sluts?

>>163265462
>>163265683
Thanks guys. Almost got my shit pushed in for the first hour but I made it out.
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Hi everyone. I am Stephen and I am not a demon. My entire design of science man in wheelchair is meant to invoke human knowledge. Plus, I am clearly a transcendent being able to walk between universes and privy to limitless human knowledge. Which is why I throw my lot in with Atlus's Mary Sue OC donut Steele demon/goddess despite there being no obvious reason for me to. In fact I seem perfectly happy with you destroying her home and people only to ensure she escapes the destruction and only after do I sound a little pissy about it.

Atlus clearly knows exactly what they are doing with me
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>>163264127
Done
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>>163271268
That's pretty good.
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>>163270574
But new humanity is clearly the better of the two. The friendship in Apocalypse wasn't genuine and felt like the characters were lying to themselves.
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>>163272389
There are no demons in that universe, so it's shit by default
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>>163272821
Nanashi will just use Flynn to extort Macca out of demons if they want to live in his universe.
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>>163272974
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>>163264264
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>>163264091
Hathor
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I miss Imagine. What do.
So MMO has felt as solo cozy.
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>>163274151
I like it.
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>>163264091
you still here, anon
I want Ongyo-Ki
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>>163270585
sorry I kind of suck at machinery
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>>163274508
Play The Secret World. Modern setting with zombies, demons, mummies, etc. running around. Surprisingly good writing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_HFb51WmhY
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>>163274467
Last one
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>>163272389
I argue thats bad writing more than purposefully false friendship.

And new humanity surrenders its own infinite power to create demons with infinite power to destroy and remake the universe freely in order to take the lesser power of the gods themselves. To have their imaginations sundered and controlled by Nanashi as if even one person thinks YHVH might exist the whole universe will be destroyed.
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SMT P3 or SMT P4?
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>>163278971
P2
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>>163278971
I like P4
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>>163278971
P5
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>>163274467
See you all later
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>>163278971
SMT P for me thanks
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Hoy
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>>163283370
now now walter now need to get riled up
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>>163223985
the friend wasn't that edgy
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>>163234518
>He's either a bro or at least very charismatic and persuasive in his arguements
but he's the one who convinced adam and eve to eat the forbidden fruit, didn't he?
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>>163278971
Shin Megami Tensei: Digital Devil Saga: Avatar Tuner is my favorite one.
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>>163285523
Only Eve, mind you.
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I wanna play apocolypse but I'm too lazy to finish SMT4. Am I not gonna understand the story if I don't finish the game? I'm at the chalice of hope bit at the moment.
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>>163286412
>Am I not gonna understand the story if I don't finish the game?
Literally doesn't fucking matter. Ignore what the pastebin says. You will understand it easily, because it's generic dogshit.
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>>163285573
mine is shin megami tensei: devil summoner: raidou kuzunoha vs the soulless army
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>>163234835
Why is YHVH always the bad guy? I always assumed he was pest control trying to stop humans from worshiping demons like Baal-Beelzebub, Moloch, Pales, Asura, Inanna, and a whole slew of pagan dieties.
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>>163288156
You're correct, us lawfags know that YHVH is the truth and the light.
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>>163288156
Because that's the only way to be edgy.
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>>163286412
You're right at the incredibly tedious end and literally right where SMT4A branches off anyway so go for it.

That said the carry over bonus is some app points if you can score a complete run.

Almost nothing from the last game is relevant but not explained.
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>>163291026
SMT doesn't want to be edgy cyberpunk, it wants to be isekaishit and moeshit
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>>163291784
What's isekai?

And SMT4 was a total failure at cyberpunk. Maybe if they do another soul hackers
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>smtv
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>>163224595
the book keeps saying he could pass for a girl easily
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>>163294621
I'm hoping it's a prequel to TMS where you control a party of bards and jesters
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>>163295747
It's gonna be a sequel to SMT IV law ending, where the demonic gene is stronger than ever, and you play as the qt elf girl who is trying to purify humanity.

Also look forward to the chaos ending sequel in 2026.
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So are Nanashi and Flynn gonna get the Aleph experience?
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>>163297584
I hope so.
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>>163294621
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cO5n4DLT2-w
Why is this the best battle theme in the game? Your favourite theme is also good.
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>>163299789
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5XZzTq_gzI
These two are my favorite songs from Apocalypse. I really didn't care for the soundtrack that much.
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What would a Divine Powers civil war look like? Would it be Inanna, Baal, and Aspu vs. Krishna and Mitra?
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>>163300054
The bit from about 0:46 until 1:37 is my favourite part of that theme, to be honest. It's just so groovy.
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>>163227031
Lucy fucks you in the ass? That's gay, man.
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>66 images
>page 6

I must undo this.
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>>163302764
IPs, not images.
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>>163297584
Only on the shitty bonds route
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>>163302842
Contradicting the law is a sin, you heretic.
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>>163303134
Shut the fuck up, faggot.
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its not gay if is cute
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>>163302764
>tfw everything you want to do to Amane would wreck the virtue she needs to be a good priestess
dammit
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>>163303221
Please kill your true self.
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>>163303323
Then go chaos and steal one of her lewd clones.
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What's with your partner in Apocalypse saying you're under leveled in an area when it's literally the opposite?
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>>163303930
All of them.
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>>163303930
They don't have any other lines.

>>163303760
lol they made that lewd Amane sprite and had no place to use her. I imagine early in development a qt woman with both an angle and a devle in her might have been a dichotomy they would have run with.

Then again I think they also intended us to fight more of our friends regularly in DeSu but all the could manage was just have you kick Honda's ass like thirty times.

The only coherent part of DeSu2's plot WAS the setup for the big friend throwdown.
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>>163303760
that some stupid hoodie
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>>163303760
>that sash across her legs
No wonder she had -1 mov compared to the rest of the team. She couldn't work with that thing.
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>>163304473
>They don't have any other lines
That's a really weird design choice then.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zCqvQ8A-cE&feature=youtu.be
dante
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>almost Christmas
>no news about Avatar Tuner 2
It was.. just all a feeble dream
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>>163308178
what
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>>163308392
You must not give up hope. You must REND, SLAUGHTER, DEVOUR YOUR ENEMIES
THERE ARE NO OTHER TRANSLATION MEANS
YOU CANNOT ESCAPE YOUR HUNGER
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Zandyne
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>>163311165
>/smtg/ was blasted away
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>that time when jesus fought the angels from EVA
and that is how DeSu 2 came to be
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ONE
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SMT x Symphogear
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FOR
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SMT x Berserk
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SMT x Animal Crossing
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SMT x Berserk x Symphogear
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SMT x Precure x Dynasty Warriors
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Featuring Nero from the Devil May Cry series
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SMT x True Goddess Reincarnation
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>>163313123
Tom = law
Isabelle = neutral
Totakeke = chaos

I'm liking the idea.
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>>163311378
Literally worse than death, if one of your demons gets Lost in a boss fight you might as well reset.
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>>163308178
so this is what people do when they hack their 3DS
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SMT x God Hand x Armored Trooper VOTOMS
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>>163313275
So SMT x Drakengard 3?
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SMT x Saya no Uta x Castlevania
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SMT x Fire Emblem

It still hurts
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SMT x 4chan
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SMT x F-Zero x Scalebound

>>163315230
I didn't even mind the idol stuff, but the butchering it got during localization kept me away
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SMT x Street Fighter
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>>163313940
I'm usually carrying 12-15 demons to make up my retinue in 4A. With few exceptions, blowing away isn't going to cripple me.
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Scans are out apparently, anybody know where to find them?
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>>163315621
scans of what you homolord
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>>163315498
Get the uncensor patch. Or even tough it out without it. The censorship hurts but the game is still absolutely worth it. Piracy is still free and easy without hacks on WiiU. Nintendo STILL hasn't patched it lol
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SMT x Genesic GaoGaiGar
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>>163315658
Famitsu, for >>163294621
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>>163314729
i dont know what the fuck that last game is but demi fiend + god hand combat would be cuhrayzee
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https://www.rabb.it/U4ick
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>>163315996
>god's hand dodges
>suddenly matador and demi are contortionists and masters of handsprings
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>>163316389
>please update firefox
Piss off. What's that?
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SMT x EYE Divine Cybermancy
Find a flaw
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>>163316686
Same here.
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>>163316525
How would the Riders fight?
Would they have to get off their horse/motorcycle?
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>>163234965
I did not wanted to join him(he was the bad guy on the first game and I could not trust him) neither YHVH but got the ''bad'' ending.
I really wanted a more neutral ending for this game.
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Why is Cu'Chulainn in SMT games, but not his brother, Fer'Diad?
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What's the best method to farm macca in IV:A?I'm currently at vishnu/4th TT level and both equipment and fusions are getting mad expensive.
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>>163318902
DLC
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>>163316698
No real ending
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>>163319392
YOU ARE STUCK IN YOUR CYCLES OF GUILT ALEPH
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>you will never make flynn crossdress to fuck him senseless
why live
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>>163319601
Now that I think about it Aleph and Rimanah both suffer a similar fate.
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>>163316698
My friends may be dead but my legs are OK.
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How would the NDD handle the Divine Powers?
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Who /Raidou/ here?
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>>163316698
Balance is crying in a corner.
Phys starts strongest but you start with the best sword in the game.
Both gun and magic builds are utter shit until you unlock a certain item, after which the game's a cakewalk.
Negociations all read like they were written by a frog on meth after a Gibson binge.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMvGqi6WUMo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQ84bCk-0YY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYPRmgHGqug
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDv1R5CIASQ

Subs when? It would be pretty useful.
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SMT x Persona x /smtg/ x /pg/
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PfZWpOXIABc&t=5s
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>>163316698
>use too many lifestones
>die of overdose
Bravo SMT#EYE
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Night guys
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>>163324945
>land an attack on a enemy that exploits it's weakness and kills it
>BULLSHIT! ULTRA-FAILED ATTACK!
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>>163325675
>get hit in your weakness
>legs break
AAAAAAHHH
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>>163320151
i was born /Raidou/
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>>163325623
source?
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>>163325675
>finish labyrinth of amala
>get BK-444
Watch out YHVH
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>>163326193
>>163320151
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How can I become a demon?
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>>163326384
Read literature.
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>>163319789
So you can have a chance to play smt:v
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Samurai uniforms > Shitmonica

You can't prove me wrong.
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>>163327562
You're wrong
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>>163326384
Just eat random insects until one of them turns you all green and stripy
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Someone please post the review that an anon did about Digital Devil Saga.

You know the one.
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>>163328510
meant to quote
>>163327562
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>>163328594
You failed to quote, so you lose by default.

The blessed samurai win again.
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>>163329038
>The blessed samurai win again.

Ah shut up and go back to being a boring ass nun Gabby.
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>Space Marine is so badass and competent that he doesn't have any alternate universes where he fucked up and died like all the other mainline protagonists.
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>>163330247

Nobody fucks with a Space Marine.
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>>163320251
That sounds pretty great, to be honest.

Also, pretty close to the series as it is already.
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>>163330247
The Diamond Realm DLC was a missed opportunity. A full game in that vein would have been great.
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>>163330571
When the fuck is Atlus going to make a 3DS remake? Devil Survivor and its shitty sequel got one and even Soul Hackers so why not the actual best DS SMT?
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>>163330893
The best SMT was already on the 3ds, though.
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>>163331134
Shittier version of EO

Nice one
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Sol Goodguy and every Anon who has masturbated to his unclean drawings will be punished.
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>>163331404
>tfw didn't fap to any of his stuff
I guess /smtg/ is about to get a lot more dead.
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>>163331668
Can we even become more dead?
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>>163331828
We can try.
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>>163331828
Hoy kid you wanna make a contract with me?
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>>163332098
What do I have to do?
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SMT x Pokemon
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>>163332614
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Lucifer in Nocturne is unbelievably cheap when he gets to low health

I had been fighting him for a good ten minutes, and I had a real nice groove going. But then he just decides to end the fight by using root of evil and then critting my MC, killing him... There was literally nothing I could do! I was at full health and he was war cryed all the down

IM MAD
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So, Apocalypse difficulty is ow available for IVA in aus. How much lube should I bring and will it help? I'm currently playing on War difficulty.
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About to spend a whole 12hr plane trip playing SJ and goddamn I like this game so much.

How important is the sub app unlocked by collecting the black boxes from the first 4 sectors? I started the quest wayyy late and have no clue where the dead crewmen are
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>>163332832
>root of evil
>high king
>high king
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>Atlus' new game is at "it barely even begun" stage
>but they announced it for some reason
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>>163334785
Don't even bother with lube.
It won't make any noticable difference.
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>>163335378
I could not care less about atlus's new game

I just want SMT news

WHERE THE FUCK IS NOCTURNE REMASTERED?
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>>163335401
Well, War difficulty is fucking me sideways as it is. Being unable to escape any battles is kind of shitty, but whatever.
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>>163337408
You can still run on War, you're just too low level to.
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>>163338819
>You can't run away, until you're strong enough to not need to run away
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>>163339751
Welcome to the world of SMT
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>>163338819
The only instances where I've needed to run so far are battles that I can't win anyway due to the enemy getting lucky crits and wiping half my party out in one go.
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NOW'S MY CHANCE TO SHOCK AND AMAZE!
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>>163293074
Somethins something reborn into another world
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>>163327562
What kind of sword is that supposed to be?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WGfHNu7figU
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>>163332098
Oh shit, it's Akuma from the Street Fighter series
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>>163332823
This made me kek.

And let me guess, Red died.
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>>163334785
The lube won't make it to your butt because you will keep missing every time you try to apply it.

>>163337408
I can't think of a single time I needed to escape on war but at least it wasn't zero percent run like 4's retarded hard mode.

Plus respawns are free. It's quicker to die than run
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>>163331134
>PQ
>a game with good dungeons
>SMT
lol no
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Hey everyone, I got into the franchise and since I love doing the games in their release order, I began by reading the novels, playing Megami Tensei I, no problem.
But there I am stuck in II when I've the choice to side with the partner or the friend in Tokyo Tower. I looked up on sites like GameFAQs or wikia, but they say the player don't have the choice: the player must side with the partner, even though I was able to get out with my friend?
And still, I don't want to lose Orthrus...
I need you to explain me what the fuck I do.
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You know, I know neutral and law had their differences back in the great alignment war of '14. But honestly there is nobody as horrible as massacrefags. Unlike lawposters, who had some degree of self awareness usually, I think completely seriously and not in a meme way that the worst massacrefags legitimately are composed mainly of people who are in some way socially stunted. For instance, many of them seem to legitimately not understand that iva switched things to a nice / asshole dichotomy that dagda is depicted by the game as far onto the asshole side of. I legitimately think dagda as a character appeals to emotionally stunted people since they were never socialized and so are still stuck in a kind of rebellious teenage mentality where they think everyone else is the problem. They don't realize he's meant to be an asshole since in their own life they interpret their aloofness as a reaction to the masses, and not indicative of themself having a problem.
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>>163348278
It's a generation without a stern father figure yearning for one even if he is an asshole. As a stern father must be an asshole to do his job.

Don't read more into it than that.
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>>163315230
TMS was fucking great though if you're a idolnigger.
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>>163348359
I don't think that many people come from single parent homes or entirely lack useful dads.
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>>163343296
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>>163348278
I think one of the wierd things about dagdafags is that very few of them actually seem to like the actual content of the ending. Most people who defend it try to spin it as a springboard to do something else with, even though that doesn't really seem to fit with what the game was getting at. They seem to either like the character of dagda, or just dislike bonds in general enough to like whatever isn't bonds.
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>>163335378
They gotta get dem investors bux.
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>>163348456
TMS made me an idolnigger as well as a nigger of whatever Kiria is supposed to be as there's no way she's an idol with that visible thong and constant sex hair.
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>>163348278
It is generally agreed that both endings suck, so many people just choose the one they dislike less.
In my case being massacre.

But I don't see where you are coming from. Discussion about 4A has toned down a lot, and the shitstorm over its alignment faggotry war 2.0 was relatively short lived.
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>>163349436
Picking an ending isn't being an ending fag. The people who obsess about it and constantly pine about it are. smtg isn't the only place megaten is discussed on the internet. This shit is still in full gear on gamefaqs among others. And just a week ago a user came to rmegaten and had a meltdown that everyone didn't support dagda. He went haywire then started starting fights with everyone until he fizzled out and left.
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>>163343296
Navarre a best
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>>163349589
>gamefaqs
>rmegaten
who cares
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>>163349589
This is why I wholeheartedly believe that despite its several flaws, this place is the best.

But I don't know. I have a hard time embracing most megaten endings, and I think the ones I choose are because I like the possibilities they offer. The games are about role playing after all, so there is some validity in thinking about the potential aftermath of each ending.
The problem with 4A is that the major reps of each ending come off as preachy and unlikeable, so at least I was stuck with choosing the side that made me feel less betrayed, but also feeling bad about having to kill and enslave the few characters I did like.
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>>163350118
This place has like twenty daily posters at any given time. So its what, 00.01% of the total online english megaten community? Obviously someone cares.
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>>163350208
>online english megaten community
Who cares?
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>>163350208
yeah well i don't care

and i'm all that matters
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>>163330247
That's because he's a grown ass man, the others were like, 16-18. Plus, he was military trained. Fucker knows what he's doing.
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>>163350208
>complains about how other places are stuck fighting for a shitty ending
>thinks that a small group that managed to see the truth and transcend above the endings is a bad thing

I fail to see the logic here.
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>>163351281
I wasn't complaining about that though.
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>>163350208
GameFAQs and r/MegaTen are full of retards anon. I've been to those places before and quickly left. It was like the comments section on YouTube videos.

No one here cares about those places because they're shit. This place is shit too, but at least it's not as bad.
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Erm guys, what happen if I stay with my friend in Megami Tensei II instead of going with that witch?
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>>163352961
Do it and find out.
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>>163331986
The White reminds me to the Drakengard 3 final boss.
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>>163351567
Honestly this place isn't better though. rmegaten is like 80% shitposting, but there are occasionally real longer in depth discussions. Here there's less shitposting, but you're not going to get a real discussion of any length. The shitposting doesn't drown the real threads, so the only reason its a problem is if someone gets triggered just from seeing it.
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>>163354056
You know the drill.
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In DS if you don't get all the skill crack and go back and it says there is no skill to crack do you just keep entering and exiting or do I actually need to clear the Free Battle for it to reset the demons
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>>163354056
>but you're not going to get a real discussion of any length
You obviously haven't been here very long.
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>>163354539
>DS
I don't think Skill Crack is in Devil Summoner.
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>>163354561
The opposite is true. That's why I'm saying it. Here, thematica conversations last a few posts max before devolving into shitposting or otherwise just ending. I'm not saying there's no conversations. Just that long term ones aren't a thing.
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Genuinely asking, when's the last time we got an update on the status of Eternal Punishment PSP's fan translation?
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>>163354810
https://iwakuraproductions.wordpress.com/about/#comment-1513
Scroll to the bottom.

Surprisingly, you're not in for disappointment.
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>>163354659
Devil Survivor
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>>163330864
The plot of Apocalypse would be a lot shorter if Space Marine was in the game. It's unknown how he would've fared against the Divine Powers, however, I'm certain he would shut up Dagda.
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>>163355352
Oh that's nice to hear! Thank you for the link.
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I really wish I had Tarukaja right now.
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>>163348359
But YHVH was that stern father figure, similar to how Inanna in Apocalypse was a strict Japanese mother figure
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>>163356689
But yhvh isn't someone you can side with.
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>>163356986
You could pick the early law or chaos ends and go along with YHVH's plans.
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>>163357052
If you pick early law technically you're siding with the divine powers. You kill anyone capable of standing up to them. But they survive.
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>>163356986
That's because YHVH is a different kind of stern father figure, he's the religious fundamentalist who thinks everything in the world is corrupting the youth.
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>>163349589
Sup kaz

>>163350191
You are forbidden to say "autistic" on Gamefags and any community that forbids truthful descriptions invites calamity.

I think first, this series is aimed at nip teenagers. Second the philosophies aren't coherent or complete. Most of the endings are bait and switch. And the stories are too divorced from relatable humanity to be worth much analysis. To argue for any real length over most endings is like arguing over Ronaldo vs Hotsuin worlds. Atlus's gay caricatures aren't worth a lot of strong philosophical appeal except for those with preexisting neurological issues.

4chans ability to call people faggots and autists screens pretty well for those. So conversations tend to be punchy and not drag on personal issues.

>>163354539
I dont recall what triggers a free battle reshuffle but I think they only change enemy sets by day so try doing a story battle or two.
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>>163357460
kaz?
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>>163357573
Incorrect guess
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>>163358856
Of all the possible users you guessed him? Was that guess based on anything, or did you say a random name?
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>>163356689
He's an ineffectual clown in 4A.

That said, God and daddy issues is a long and storied discussion.

>>163349597
All of Navarre's lines are better than all the other lines combined.
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>>163358942
Only name I've seen picking fights with autisms on rmegaten and GameFAGs
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>Will of thunder
>Concentrates for a Thunder Reign

Human, do you think you are worthy of Valhalla?
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Akito should be the mascot of /smtg/
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>>163360321
>Deadly Wind
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>>163360321
>War Cry
>War Cry
>War Cry
Valhalla is for fags. Kys you faggy sentai reject
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>>163348278
hello beadman
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>>163360552
No, Mastema should be the mascot.
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>>163354661
>thematica conversations
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>>163261159
I always thought they made press turn a bit too lopsided, and it only got worse with Smirk. Like, I'm real glad SMT4A scaled smirk back some, because that was insane with how on top of the guaranteed crit, it doubled power too.

It got into a crazy feedback loop where either the enemy does 100% damage with a regular attack, or they crit for 150%, smirk, do 300% for the next (doubled power from smirk and then x1.5 for the guaranteed crit), and then get another turn to do 100%. That's a damage range from 100% to 550% strictly based off of a single crit happening or not thanks to the extra turns that didn't exist before and smirk boost. If they just outright made a critical hit do 550% damage, people could really see that for what it is.
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>>163361734
Do the math with the assholes who cast blight. Phys hit all, four chances to crit. If one of them does, smirk and they get to do it again for now four smirked crits that can't miss, enough to wipe any party from full health.

4 was a retarded game.
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>>163360321
Didn't Odin invite Flynn to Valhalla in vanilla SMTIV?
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>>163360552
it should be nakajima because he's far edgier
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How should I distribute my points in KMT I?
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Alright /smtg/ time to settle this:
1 hit for 70 damage or 1-3 hits for 40 damage?
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>>163363336
for nakajima it's pretty much just STR and VIT (and luck if you want)

for yumiko it's STR, VIT and MAG
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I've been out for months, are there any news regarding Devil Summoner 1 PSP translation/hacking?
>>163355352
Nice, was about to ask about EPP.
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>>163360202
That's because Navarre is a great character in Apocalypse. He's the only one who made mistakes in his life, feels ashamed of what he's done, and helps Nanashi because he doesn't want the poor kid to end up like him. The others don't seem to suffer any consequences of their actions with exception to Asahi
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>>163363902
>not radiant historia 2
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>>163363902
High fantasy SMT time?
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>>163363902
>>163366778
vanillaware x atlus
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>>163366778
>high fantasy RPG with press turn system
I'm ok with this.
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Why can't I make Flynn my Megami?
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>>163367124
You get flynn's boypussy either way. Choosing him as a megami also would just limit the amount of people you get.
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>>163363119
Yeah, but he cant't go if he's stuck as my zombie fuccboi.
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>>163363430
Dance furiously
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>>163363902
What a dumb name.
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Hey does anyone have pictures of the info cards you get after beating the epidemic in mikado? Or the dialogue on them? The ones about the demonic gene and hugo?
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>>163346536
I think so, I assume the last panel is a game over screen.
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>>163360573
>>163360562
WRONG

Now you lost this scripted fight, you worthless humans.
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>>163366778
Nope we getting EO gaiden. Take a seat SMTniggers

>>163364909
Indeed.
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>>163351194
That's why he's the best, I'm fucking sick of every protag in SMT games being some twink fuckboi.
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>>163355432
If he can survive against Mem Aleph then the Divine Powers would be a literal cakewalk for him
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>>163372694
some day atlus should go with the idea they originally had for strange journey, which was to take inspiration from escape from new york instead of the thing

then you could play as a snake plissken ripoff
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Hey /smtg/

How's everyone's day doing

>Had a Christmas Party until 3ish
>Pretty bored most of the day
>Don't know what I wanna do
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>>163373283
>persona image
>blogging
get out
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>>163348250
I think there is no way to advance on story if you choose your friend because you need the witch later.
I never sided with the friend, so I don't know if you can come back to side with the witch later or be stuck forever.
It was really a pain for me too because I expended a lot of macca with equips.
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>>163363265
This
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>>163372694
SMT is still made with a Japanese audience in mind, and they want high school students roaming around post Apocalyptic Tokyo fighting off demons. The closest thing to adult SMT would get is mid 20s Salaryman trying to fight demons while 26 year old christmas cake lets herself be possessed by mother goddess to have kids.
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>>163376493
I wish Atlus would make a SMT with American audience in mind for once, I'd love for a spin off of SMT 1 that takes place in America where you have to stop the angels from nuking Japan.
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>>163376832
>SMT with American audience in mind
So a FPS open world survival with a 35 years old Hero with a buzzcut?
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>>163377385
Still sounds better than having a party of teenagers with their shitty persona friendship magic.
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I just won the fight, so it doesn't really matter now, but why did Soil Jimenez start absorbing Ice when he was low on health?

also
>struggling to make it past turn three
>fuse Ongyo-Ki with Debilitate/Repel Gun
>start spamming Debilitate/Luster Candy every turn
>win easily
epique
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>>163354492
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>>163376832
Localized Persona 1 says hello.
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>>163330247
>all the other mainline protagonists
sj isn't mainline

>>163372694
>fuckboi
literally r.eddit, fuck off
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>>163378689
SJ is mainline.
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>>163378689
SJ is mainline you fag, it was literally SMT 4 until Atlus decided to change the title because of all the xenophobic nips that were crying that it wasn't taking place in their precious Tokyo.

The Mara you see in SJ is the same Mara from Nocturne which is proof enough.
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>>163376832
so you lose at the end?
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>>163364161
>Censors Hitler
>Makes him look and sound even more badass as "The Fuhrer"

Sasuga Atlus-kun.
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>>163379328
That would be a bad end, the real ending would be you stopping the Angels and having the government back in control and then kill or banish all the demons and angels in America. Bonus would be YHVH gets real pissy about you fucking up his plans and then you kill him as well.
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>>163379838
That's why Atsuro's path is so good.
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>>163378060
Not really, at least the shitty persona friendship game might have good gameplay.
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who is the narrator in DeSu1 when the game begins and after you complete any of the paths
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>>163381002
The voice of God.
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>>163381002
it's metatron isn't it?
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>invisible tiles and warp tiles on the same floor
how much longer is horologium
I see an elevator, surely that will bring me straight down to B9F, r-right?
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Mothman a best
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I'm playing MT1. I have no idea how rare Cerberus is but I got him and now I'm pretty damn happy. I'm only level 6 or so also.
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>>163385857
he's really common on floor 1 of daedalus
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Dekunda
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>>163388586
Debilitate
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>>163388947
Dekunda
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>>163389051
Debilitate
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>>163389104
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>>163389184
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>>163350208
i am a spic thought
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>>163386054
I got him a few floors above that, maybe four or so.
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>>163388586
Red Capote
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mudo
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>>163389308
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Is there a recommended ending to go through in your first go through SMT 4 Apocalypse? I'm worried I'll accidentally miss the good stuff like I did in Nocturne because I went in blind
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>>163397325
I would assume neutral so long as the requirements aren't complete garbage like the IV
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>>163397325
Massacre is the correct ending.
Pick all the edgy options, boyo.
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>>163397325
There aren't any NG+ exclusive quests or anything like that so just do it in whatever order you want.
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>>163397325
Nah. Both endings go the same way and it's literally a binary choice right at the last dungeon.

Law and Chaos are white-style troll ends.

Your choices are Bonds or Massacre. Not to spoil anything, but it's "friends" or "edgy."
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>>163397753
Fuck you.
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>>163397753

Escena II
[Entre Don Donte y El Demonio. La banda toca suavemente en el foro]
Don Donte: "¡Olé! Has de ser vos la causa de tan infausto tormento."
El Demonio: "¿Quien sois vos?"
Don Donte: "¡Pues soy vuestra pareja de flamenco, gañan!"
El Demonio: "¿¡Quien en el nombre de Allah, el más misericordioso sois!?"
[El Demonio hace lo impensable en direccion a Don Donte. Sin embargo, en un despliegue de agilidad inusitada,
Don Donte logra esquivar el ataque]
Don Donte: "¡Habeis fallado en vuestra afrenta! Por cierto, a mi me han conocido como Don Danté Esparda del
Sagrado Corazón de Jesus y de María en la marca de Navarra y Aragón"
El Demonio: "¿DONTE? ¡¿Bastardo de Don Esparda y Eva la cortesana?!"
[El Demonio nuevamente hace lo impensable en direccion a Don Donte. Quien nuevamente lo esquiva]
Don Donte: "En efecto, sin embargo habeis de conocerme por mi titulo: ¡Donte, el azote del Diablo!
¡Pues entonar semejante nomenclatura evoca gusto en los orgullosos en oirlo!"
El Demonio: "¿Vuestra intención es la de acabar con mi noble existencia? ¡Me río de vuestros intentos, pues
llevo doscientos cuarenta lustros de vida!"
Don Donte: "Pues no aparentais mas de dos mil cuatrocientos en mis ojos"
El Demonio: "¡Fornicaos!"
Don Donte: "¡FORNICAOS!"
El Demonio: "¡FORNICAOS!"
[El Demonio hace el horror mientras la banda aumenta en volumen]
[Fin de la escena]
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>>163400398
Que te jodan
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>>163400398
>¡Fornicaos!
This is wrong in every sense, it should be "JODEOS" o "QUE TE JODAN".
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Who's more edgy, Donte or Nanashi?
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>>163401185
Donte.
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>>163401185
at least you can excuse nanashi being a teen and all that.
but how old is donte?
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>>163401419
Like 18 I guess.

But the one at fault was Tameem, who basically self-inserted with Donte.
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Ok, why hasn't anyone datamined SMT IV or Final to get a decent sized render of Mastema?
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Which do you prefer?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qyd3Y-vrwSI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhhhsvS9CeU
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>>163401185
They both sought to kill a shittily written bald patriarch but only one killed all his friends and doomed the entire universe to do it.
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>>163401821
>mastema
for what purpose
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>>163401821
You missed it.
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>>163402097
He's the best demon anon, and all his images are ant sized
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>>163402267
White Rider is a better demon.
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>>163402097
What you said was very cruel, but Mastema would want me to forgive you, so I will.
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>>163402414
ne it's not
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>>163402267
He is a fucking faggot, even worse than betatron.
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>>163402646
>He is a fucking faggot
The best kind of faggot.
At least he is cute, unlike the ayy lmao
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>>163402604
Go away Starscream.
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>>163402646
But he was Akira's most handsome, loyal and trustworthy servant.
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>>163402818
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How long am I going to be pushing crates in this arcade game in Nocturne.
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>>163403596
20 stages.
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Someone stream Tokyo Revelation.
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>>163401185
too close to call
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>>163404117
Please.
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How broken is Record Breaker?
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>>163403596
I think you put in the Catherine disc by mistake.
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Should I buy digital devil saga if I loved nocturne and absolutely hated smt4?
What sets it apart from nocturne?
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>>163406035
It's a more character driven game, it has a vastly different and unique setting, different way to acquire and customize skills, and the hunting mechanic.

If you liked Nocturne, DDS is a must buy.
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>>163405557
It's pretty easy to break but it's nowhere as shittily designed as SMT4
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>doing the castle in DDS1
>reach the part where the princes have to duel
>ride a random platform
>takes me down a long hallway that leads back to the start
>encounters every 5 steps
>half my mp is gone my the time I reach the end
Please tell me this is the last puzzle
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>>163407593
Ingest mana.

And I'm sure the puzzle will keep making you go through those hallways if you fail the riddle and keep missing the correct path.
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Quick question about DDS1.

Should I try and beat Demi-Fiend legit, or should I just cheese him with the Red Star strategy I've read about online? I've tried fighting him a few times already, and he ended up Gaea Raging me every time, either because no one fell asleep from Pixie's Dormina, or because the Close Call I put on a couple of the characters didn't activate
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wtf i want to play persona 5 now
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>>163409131
Try a different strategy first. That fight is fun because of how hard it is to beat a throwback character like him.
But yeah. Red Star strategy is the way to go in the end if it never works out and you die.
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>>163409737
The fight itself isn't that hard for me (Probably because I have max VIT and 800+ HP on all my characters, and there's also Phys Resist.), it's just the Gaea Rage that keeps getting me. On my last attempt, I managed to damage Demi-Fiend enough to make one of his demons use Mediarama (I know that they do that at a certain point), so I can get a decent pattern going for staying alive against his regular attacks, it's just Gaea Rage that's a pain.
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Diarahan
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ON TO NEW HEIGHTS!
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>>163275376
Not the same anon from earlier but here
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>>163409545
Damn Jonathan has some nice tits.
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>>163401976
Both.
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>>163413565
Aw shit, that's awesome
Thanks anon
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>>163413008
NAVARRE HAS ARRIVED
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Just got through Ikebukuro tunnel in Nocturne. All of the ghosts in the tunnels were talking about the four onis you have to fight, but Im in the Obelisk already and didnt have to fight any of them. What happened?
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>>163416973
They're optional bosses. You get a Magatama if you beat all of them.
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>>163417024
Oh, nice. I'll go back and do that then.
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I really, really want to fug pixie :(
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I know people here say that other boards are bad, but you have no idea how shit gamefaqs really is. There's a user there (obviously a dagdafag) constantly having a meltdown about apparently the existence of people who don't like dagda, and another one who thinks IVA is so obviously the peak of the series plot wise that the series should now end. And both of them constantly shitpost about this on every thread.
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>>163418554
I don't care

please stop posting about gamefaqs
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>>163418553
Me too. Ever since I discovered Pixie and Megaten games I've been happier about my tiny dick, knowing I could fuck Pixie without breaking her apart makes me all giggly.
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Hey /smtg/ give me 630 macca.
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>>163418865
>Cheat
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>>163418553
Get in line.
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>>163418993
>High Pixie

get the fuck out. You disgust me, man child
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>>163419104
Patrician's choice.
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>>163419195
Yukata High Pixie is fine

lesbian glam rock High Pixie is not
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>playing SMT IV as my first mainline game
>try to do a physical build
>need to use elemental damage in 99% cases to capitalize on the enemy weaknesses
>so do my demons
>skill slots full of elemental spells
>no good physical skills in sight
I really should have rolled with magic in this game, shouldn't I? What are some recommended physical demons to fuse and skills to learn? I'm lvl 31.
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>>163420501
not even joking full luck with some agi and dex is the best build for IV
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>>163420673
I'm doing Dex/Agi/Luck build. 3/1/1 or sometimes 2/1/2.
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Also what's the best way to take advantage of "high crit/low hit %" attacks? More Agi or more Luck? Or invest into both equally?
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>>163421504
Throw them in the fucking garbage.
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>>163421504
Don't use them at all
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>>163422436
Then how would I get smirk on a physical build?
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>>163422519
with high luck you crit pretty much every turn
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>>163422852
How high?
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>>163422936
Make it your second highest skill after strength
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>when the full moon comes around again and your COMP is constantly releasing steam
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>>163424434
>leveling strength in SMT IV

lmao do you want his character to be fucked?
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So it's not worth going past 30 STR in Nocturne because the best magatama gives +10 to all stats right? If so, what should I be throwing stuff into now? Just VIT and AGI? Any luck?
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>>163424539
yeah, put a thought about the bonuses and maximum.
Plus there are some incenses as well.
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>>163424539
just vitality and agility, ignore luck and magic.

Some people will try to tell you that magic affects your magic resistance, and that you should put a few points into it,but that's only true for digital devil saga.
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How would a eurofag go about obtaining Strange Journey for a reasonable price?
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>>163426339
you go to emuparadise and you download the game their

free of charge!
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Help
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>>163427014
fuck no
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>>163427014
quick reminder that you can take native-resolution screenshots on the 3DS. It's built into the system.
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So what was Demi doing back there?
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> tweak smirks to be less ridiculous
> proceed to add a skill that forces smirk status
Haha nah, get fucked atlus. Is there even a counter for this horse shit aside from having an ice-resistant/nulling demon?
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>>163429317
Magaon.

It removes a target's smirk.
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>>163429356
Which is obviously a demon skill that is on a demon I don't own, no doubt. I am unhappy.
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>>163429317
Are you stuck on Apsu?
>ice-resistant/nulling demon
That shit won't help since it pierces. Just try to buff yourself and debuff him as fast as possible. Don't bring in someone who's weak to ice and hope for the best
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>>163429425
Angel and Spriggan learn it.
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>>163429425
If i remember right, Angel is the earliest demon that can learn Magaon via level up.

Don't get discouraged now, you bitch ass messiah.
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>>163429497
King Frost, actually. First couple of turns are fine, but as soon as it uses Smile Charge I'm fucked, pretty much just stuck watching a wipe occur with little I can do to prevent it.
Probably doesn't help that I don't have any ice-resistant demons or Media.
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>>163429615
Oh. Then it doesn't pierce, but you won't have any demons that null anything for a while so it doesn't matter. What level are you?
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>>163429779
15, on War difficulty. It doesn't feel like I'm underleveled, though.

>>163429534
>>163429525
Welp, guess I'll have to grind up some cash and resummon Angel.
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>>163429870
>15, on War difficulty. It doesn't feel like I'm underleveled, though.
Uhh, I think you kind of are. I don't remember when I beat him, but isn't King Frost like level 30?
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>>163429870
If you're gonna be grinding a little anyway you might also want to pick up a Napaea if you're still having trouble. She learns Agi and Resist ice. You probably won't need her though.
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>>163430227
Yeah, the only issue I'm facing is that King Frost curbstomps me once it gets the Smile Charges rolling. I've got Nanashi equipped with a bazooka and fire rounds and Tam Lin, so my damage isn't really lacking.
At least now I know there's a way to deal with Smile Charge.

>>163430035
That doesn't sound right. Fairy Forest is early on, there's no reason why I'd need to be that high a level when all the demons in the are are around lvl 10-14. Of course a boss is gonna be a higher level.
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Who is the most handsome demon?
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>>163430763
It's me
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>tfw didn't bring lube for the Azrael fight
What are some good demons for this fight?
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>>163430763
Right here
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I just found 500000000000 macca. What should I do, /smtg/?
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>>163431221
complete your compendium
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>playing SMT2
>leveling up with gonz pistol and m16 rifle
>on the first hit they do 30 dmg, but then 130 dmg on each hit
>never happened to me before
Is this a bug or is it because I finally reached the level of the demons I'm attacking?
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>>163431221
Give me 500
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>>163431221
You should probably let me hold onto it so you don't lose it.
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>>163431221
Actually pay loki for his Bill instead of stealing it
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>>163430763
There can only be one
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>>163376832
say my name
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>>163429317
This boss is just a gear check to see if you have magaon.

The final boss also demands magaon. As the final boss is a rematch with King frost
>>
Why this general care about the age of silent protagonists again?
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>>163418554
Gamefaqs is a site for kids. You only go there with specific questions. It's in the fucking name. Even then you have to screen for autism.

I feel bad for niche games that have no other place to talk about their vidya.

>>163420501
>SMT4 as first mainline
I'm sorry

>>163422519
Crit nornally. You will NEVER get the hit rate Minotaur has with oni kagura so don't even try.

Alternately throw those elemental stones you keep getting. That's what they're there for.
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>>163376832
>demon's spawn in Detroit
>get gunned down
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>>163435808
>they somehow improve detroit
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>>163435808
>DDS but with inner city street gangs
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>>163436549
>>163436642
It's not that bad here I swear.
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>>163436786
Wayne County > whatever county you live in
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>>163440867
So Wayne County > Wayne County?
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>>163413008
Uggh... Come on Nanashi!!
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>>163441297
you heard me.
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Navarre should have been the protagonist of Apocalypse
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>>163264091
Todomeki
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>>163442667
Navarre and Gaston, and you could switch between them.

And now that I think of it, I have never seen fanart of Gaston and Navarre being bros together.
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>>163443417
>I have never seen fanart of Gaston and Navarre being bros together.

I haven't seen any scenes of that in game either. Its almost like it had incoherent writing.
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>>163443460
Please don't bully SMTIV Finaru, it had the bad luck of having lots of potential, but being written by waifufags.
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>>163443680
The waifufagging wasn't even the worst part though. that would have been tolerable if everything else wasn't shit.
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Most unlucky for you
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>>163445530
This is it.
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>>163445667
>Walter became the arm tumor of Lucifer
>Lucifer was simply a drone designed to rebel against YHVH and empower him in the process

Chaos... had a hard life.
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>going law gives you a free sex change
>going chaos you become literally cancer

What did they mean by this?
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Behold, the (un)holy trilogy of /our guys/
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>>163446631
But going Chaos turns you into a girl too?
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>>163446872
>They're all gay
Coincidence? I don't think so
>>
If I do Haru's route in Devil Survivor, do I still get to play the Chaos 8th Day?
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>>163448120
If you follow the law path, can you pull back and go chaos?

The answer is no.
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>>163446114
Flynn would be into that shit. Chaos, remember?
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>>163447615
But where's the fourth member in the middl that's supposed to represent all of them?
Would it be Walter? Is it gay to become a tumour on a girl's arm?
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>>163271082
Nah, she was blonde even in SMTIV. She did wear more conservative clothing though.
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>>163446872
i always preferred nakajima and yumiko's original design over the kaneko redesign to be honest
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>>163424643
If that's true then someone should edit the tips pastebin in the OP since it definitely says magic does that.
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>>163448643
Walter is the one screaming.

But Lucifer technically overwrites his personality, so he could still be into it.
>>
http://www.allgamesdelta.net/2016/12/this-weeks-famitsu-scans_21.html?m=1
>Hashino states atlus has always been contrarian because of settings
Well he ain't wrong.
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>>163381002
It's Metatron. The Amane epilogue makes it pretty clear.
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>>163446114
What a shit ending
Felt like there was literally a campaign of conquest ahead, but it just cuts to the credits
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>>163430992
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Why the fuck is there no Devil Summoner localization or translation?
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>>163451903
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>>163450092
>fatlus jewing you out of a quality ending
That never happened before.

>>163443819
>remember how those factions were aligned in favor of or against a possibly malevolent and opaque demon god
>lol his name is scratch and he actually controls them both and he's so cartoonishly evil Dr. Wily and Hatanaka both think he's being retarded
>Also if you take this as canon every ending in 4 was fake
Thanks fatlus.
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>>163432978
SJ is international, the whole world is working together in that game even if it is an American hero that does all the hard work.
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>>163424498
He was talking about IV?
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>>163456278
>canonical Japanese main character
>American hero
?
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>>163456670
he's both depending on where you come from
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>>163456670
Spess muhrine is American on US version of SJ, dumdum.
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>>163456670
American version of SJ is the canon version, fuck Japan those slant eye nips don't even like it, it is OUR game.
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>>163456670
Nips can't imagine themselves as anything other than high school aged protagonist. They're still afraid that having an army would bring back the horrors of Imperial Japan.
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>>163458731
Aren't the SDFs pretty much an army with another name?
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>>163460021
they can only act on their own territory

it's a SELF-DEFENSE force for a reason
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>>163460095
They don't even do jack shit anymore either, there's no way the JP version of the MC would realistically have any actual combat experience.
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>>163460021
>>163460095
oh and i suppose they also do disaster response, like most military forces in the world

>>163460285
i still wouldn't fuck with a SDF soldier
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>>163456278
SJ is basically Armageddon as a JRPG and with demons instead of an asteroid. It's an American story. Deal with it.

To be honest bizarre small town murder mystery and classy masked thieves are white people stories too but the nips pay for them just fine.
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Is this a good set for Flynn?

ragnarok
refrigerate
plasma discharge
floral gust
antichthon
luster candy
archangel's law
doping
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>>163456278
>TDN
>American hero
www
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FINAL IS FUCKING STUPID
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I WANT TO FILL YUMIKO UP WITH SO MUCH CUM THAT HER WOMB BULGES AND SHE CAN'T WALK ANYMORE AND SHE GETS KNOCKED UP
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>>163462034
loki almost did it
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>>163461832
What broke you?
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>>163460946
I beat SMT4 twice and never heard of half these skills.
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>>163462816
Three of them are exclusive to DLC demons iirc.
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>>163462034
That's not how it works.
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>>163454367
SMT IV plot was retarded from the get go with the demonic gene shit. Final did pretty well considering it was a expansion IV shit plot into another game
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>>163464591
You aren't wrong. They started from a terrible story. But I think they still ended up with a terrible story due to choices not related to their awful starting point.
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>>163460946
>no concentrate
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>>163460946
>Not using the superior dex build
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>>163458020
I'm with you on this. Those fucks prevented it from being a numbered game because of muh tokyo.
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>>163466045
It's for support, I'm only using the elements to strike the weaknesses and antichton for debuff.
No point in making flynn attack when there's a better demon with both pleromas and the pierce skill
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>thought to try and finish smt4 after apocalypse
>load up my save
>mfw
Nah, 4A has a lot problems, but it improved on 4 so much it's almost funny. I don't think I can play 4 ever again. I forgot what a nightmare it was navigating tokyo.
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>>163471470
>I forgot what a nightmare it was navigating tokyo.
>tfw your own internal lyrics for the 4 Tokyo theme are mostly expletives
>tfw it's another fucking "warp to shibuya and hike three screens to the world map" episode
>>
Patra
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>>163479003
Ziodyne
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>it's a random encounter where for some reason the lower speed demons are faster than you and spam disabling status effects
>>
Nakajima should come back on SMT V
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>>163446872
I'd dick Nakajima.
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>>163482072
What for?
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>>163465715
I think the story's problem was that it tried to make Law and Chaos look bad to make Neutral look good. It failed because the Neutral faction came off as complacent and whiny, waiting for Masakado and Flynn to solve their issues.
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>>163482072
he died in nuclear hellfire though
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Have I mentioned how cool our liberator Flynn is?
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>>163483559
i want to mindbreak him!
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>>163482615
SMT4 failed so utterly at making Tokyo sympathetic or interesting that I was only slightly less hyped to kill them than I was to kill Isabeau.

For all its problems, SMT4A fixed that issue, with both Tokyo and Isabeau.

Unfortunately at the cost of Eastern Kingdom of Mikado.
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How do I beat Shemyaza is Sould Hackers?
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>>163488292
Hit until it dies.
Don't let your HP reach zero.
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>>163488292
tell him that he will live to see his son turned into a faggot
>>
What are the highest priority skills in Nocturne? I know that Fog Breath is good, but I'm not really sure of anything more than that.
>>
Post best apocalypse song
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>>163485556
I say that Tokyo is still unsympathetic in Apocalypse because all the people do is react to the situation, and whine about being manipulated by gods and demons, even when Lucifer arranged a truce between him, Merkabah, and humans to save Flynn from Divine Powers.
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>>163490346
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZyZIZ1MfuM&t=15s
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>>163489353
Charge if you're smart and doing a STR build
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>>163491169
It's a step up from when their shotgun wielding hunters were all but worthless in doing anything and the only way they were able to survive was literally sucking the brains out of their children and offering them as tribute to the demons.
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>>163489353
Charge and Freddykruegger.
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MORE SKILL MORE KILL
MORE BLOOD SPILL
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>>163492068
They now complain about having to hunt demons down and use them as ingredients for food, and now being caught in a three way war between Angels, Demons, and a group of Pagan Gods angry at YHVH.
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>>163491793
It's called Focus in Nocturne.
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>fucking about in smt IV
>my heeho evolves into wendigo
>decide to fuse tam lin to get something with more skills
>glitch
>fucking chupacabra

first time through and I dont know what the fuck anymore
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IT DIES AND BLOSSOMS AGAIN IT DIES AND BLOSSOMS AGAIN IT DIES AND BLOSSOMS AGAIN IT DIES AND BLOSSOMS AGAIN IT DIES AND BLOSSOMS AGAIN IT DIES AND BLOSSOMS AGAIN IT DIES AND BLOSSOMS AGAIN IT DIES AND BLOSSOMS AGAIN IT DIES AND BLOSSOMS AGAIN IT DIES AND BLOSSOMS AGAIN IT DIES AND BLOSSOMS AGAIN IT DIES AND BLOSSOMS AGAIN IT DIES AND BLOSSOMS AGAIN IT DIES AND BLOSSOMS AGAIN IT DIES AND BLOSSOMS AGAIN IT DIES AND BLOSSOMS AGAIN IT DIES AND BLOSSOMS AGAIN IT DIES AND BLOSSOMS AGAIN IT DIES AND BLOSSOMS AGAIN IT DIES AND BLOSSOMS AGAIN
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>>163446631
>Merkabah
>Female
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>>163482615
Also, it failed since all the neutral characters were ass-retarded, and the only thing making them look good was literally retconning law and chaos into being pure evil which is revealed to not even be jsut evil, but evil misled by greater evil.
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>>163330247
YHVH was the Mothers bitch and Lucy like the moms enough to step aside and run shit themselves.

Turns only YHVH is a angry vindictive bitch/Demi-Fiend needed to get good.

Space Marines so good he gets free storyline powerups that don't do jack gameplaywise.
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>>163434973
>I feel bad for niche games that have no other place to talk about their vidya.
I know. I still play PSP games from time to time, and any board that isn't for a JRPG is dead, or solely populated by one autist who makes multiple topics to write 2000 word essays to himself, on shit that (a) no other player cares about, and (b) is 99% wrong anyway.

Go to the ACJA board on GameFAQs if you want a laugh (I know this is /smtg/ not /aceg/, but you guys are aces too).
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>>163501715
All the high ranking Demons are portrayed tragically/sympathetically unlike Law since they had no desire to be slaves in the system but don't realize it. Law would know but wouldn't care cause they're tools. Except Adrammelech.

And Satan was a pretty cool guy.

Besides there were hints and stuff of Laws two-faced deceitful nature (Literally Two Faced as Merkabah II) in IV but you could only really connect the dots if you read both Walter and Jonathans mangas, got the artbook, and then have IVA answer them half-assed just like IV did a lot of twists.
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HEY YOU DIG HERE
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>>163502984
>Dig
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>>163503316
YOU JUST DUG YOUR OWN GRAVE
>CRITICAL WAVE
>SMIRK
>CRITICAL WAVE
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>>163503404
>Endure
>Smile Charge
>Charge

Ya done it now, demon.
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>>163503537
>Reinforcements have arrived
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So, I'm playing SMT IV and I took a quest to take two pictures of Ikebukuro. The first one was easy to get, but I can't seem to find the second one. I've walked all over the place, but that "eastern train station entrance" or w/e it's called is nowhere to be found.

Also, what's the deal with those "optional" challenge quests, without which I can't seem to progress the main quest. Like clearing out the corpses or killing the demon in the administration building in Shinjuku. I wouldn't be able to get past the barrier in Ikebukuro without the Jirae Talisman it drops. Moreover, the game even offers you a choice not to fight the Jirae boss. Does it offer you the Talisman for free, or does your answer not matter, and it still attacks you if you pick that option?
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>>163504419
Have you been to the Ikebukuro underground area?
Once you get there exit through the east and make your way to the middle of the poisoned highway where there's a small parking area
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I'm off for Christmas. Which SMT you guys laying over break? I think I will finally give Devil Survivor 2 a chance.
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>>163505154
Nocturne, and when I beat that SJ or DDS.
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>>163505154
None. I thought about playing Kyuuyaku but I don't feel like it.
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>>163505002
You mean the area with abandoned shops? I've been there, but there wasn't a spot to take a photo.

Unless there's another exit that opens up after I beat the Xi Whatshisface demon the Gaea thugs are after. Do I have to do it first to be able to take the photo?

It's really weird how those demons gating your progress through Tokyo have 1-star difficulty rating, but at the same time the game throws at you multiple 4-6+ star challenge quests at the bars.
Are you meant to do those before progressing the story, or are those basically NG+ quests?
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>>163505154
Slowly making my way through Apocalypse amongst other games.
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>>163505307
Kyuuyaku is pretty great and it's simplicity feels refreshing. in MT1 there is a special early demon that makes the game a little more casual for you too.
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>>163504419
The Talisman is a reward from the quest itself. If you chose to spare Kuebiko, he leaves, finishing the quest.
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>>163505154
Starting Strange Journey.
>>163505307
You should.
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One of those black friday n3ds just came through and I saw that the 3ds actually has smt games. What's the /smtg/ consensus on smt iv and smt iv apoc?
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>>163505154
NOCTURNE.

>and a bit of SMTII, which is slow.
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>>163505154
20 hours into Nocturne already. If I finish before the break ends maybe I'll use that 3DS SD DS rom loading to try Strange Journey.
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Is there an SMT game that has a cheaper hard mode? Because "devil mode" is ridiculous in this game.
>basic zombie enemies can kill you in 2 hits
>compendium cost is 7x multiplied
>finishing a battle nets you around 35 yen (to put this into perspective, resurrecting an Ukobach costs 800 yen)
>Raidou's attack damage is halved
>escaping takes 2-3 minutes
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>>163507446
Does it even work?
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>>163507548
>basic zombie enemies can kill you in 2 hits
That's one hit more than usual.
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>>163507556
It's being released on Christmas. There's a semi-working thing out now I think but it can't save.
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>>163507680
There is a hack that lets me use my old R4 clone already out. I'm playing SJ right now that way.
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Hoy, what do you want for Christmas, /smtg/?
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>>163510716
A mainline game
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>>163510716
A COMP.
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So my game is fucked cause of a bug. I did that quest where you have to destroy those jars that stop people from using the DSP.

Then when i went back to my room to sleep it would just say heal or leave.

Of course Atlus being Atlus don't give two fucks about SMT anymore and have never fixed it.
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Hey look, it's the best human girl in the series
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>>163505325
Maybe an area does become available after taking care of Xi Wangmu

I could be wrong, but I don't think you have to kill her before being able to go to East Ikebukuro.

The photo quests are mandatory for neutral runs, as are most non delivery and demon requested jobs. Just wait until after Camp Ichigaya to start on the 4-6 star quests
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Anyone have that picture of Flynn getting JUSTED by Nanashi?
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>>163510716
Setanta
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>>163501715
Law was pure evil back on IV the people in Mikado were terrified of the angels pretending they never knew of the books etc while the angels turned as blind eye to them because they have the demonic gene and God only want half demon people to exist because CONVOLUTED REASONS
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>>163510716
ICBMs
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>>163522605
fuck off, thorman
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>>163510716
One gillian dollars.
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>>163502707
I didn't find Danu sympathetic at all. The way that she's drawn, speaks, and written in Apocalypse makes her appear cruel. Ironically, despite looking like a monster, Inanna sounds more human.
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>>163223617
>>The Powers goal was SJ Chaos anyways

What. Do you mean SJ law? The only three things coherently mentioned are people becoming immortal, that krishna wants to prevent suffering, and that everyone would somehow be linked together. Its not even clear that dagda was referring to the same plan, since there was infighting among the powers that got taken out of the game due to lack of time.
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>>163526738
In hindsight, they could've just trim down the focus on friendship to squeeze in the Divine Powers civil War. The final product makes it seem like Krishna was genuine in his promise to share the new universe with other gods.
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>>163269057
YHVH coming back has nothing to do with the current universe. Nozomi isn't bad because danu. Its more like the other way around. Part of what makes danu so shitty is nozomi. Nozomi is just a terrible character all around. She talks down to you with no coherent justification.
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>>163526905
Krishna seemed like the most genuine and well intentioned character in the game. If it wasn't for odin's throwaway line there would be close to nothing bad seeming about their plan at all.
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>>163527089
That can easily be remedied by having Odin split from the Divine Powers to form his own faction against Krishna. Either him or Inanna are the ones that I can see triggering them civil war.
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>>163505154
Thought about giving Strange Journey a second chance; right now got to sector Fornax. Being able to fuse any demon I want on NG+ is a welcome feature, but some of my sentiments still stand - fuck those hidden doors, and some bosses still feel unbalanced and based on RNG, too. We'll see how bad it can get when I try to kick Demiurge's ass.

Other than that, I think I'm going to try Devil Survivor games, as I absolutely loved Majin Tensei games on Sufami.
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>>163505154
TMS#FE lunatic run, but mostly I'm playing non SMT games.

>>163516389
>broken suicidal pile of daddy issues
Keep that pit of STDs and shame away from me.

>>163520775
Of course people are terrified of the keepers of the law. Nobody is happy to see the police.

The demon gene shit was retarded though.

>>163526905
>trim down the focus on friendship
>literally cut out the focus on one of the two factions the games only real choice asks
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What's the best demon that can use Tarukaja in SMTII? Parvati and Cu Chulainn are the highest level demons with those skills. Fusion inheritance is weird in SMTII, so I don't know what I could pass it on to.
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Why did people from Tokyo stop working their way up the tower?

The work area was completely vacant and only 25 years passed for Tokyo people, so I can't see them abandoning it so fast.

I guess you could argue Minotaur but a lot of them have demons strong enough to beat it.
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>>163533801
>trying to make sense of IV or IVAs plot as if it actually made sense.
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>>163533801
Why would they keep going if they already made their way to Mikado and got raped by the angels?
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>>163535106
I haven't beat the game yet, but since Minotaur showed up haven't the angels been sealed?

Also why not fight the angels with demons too?
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>>163535229
You're still playing vanilla right? Final answers all that
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>>163535727
I'm going Neutral.

Should I play the other routes before moving to Apoc?

My current plan is beat Neutral and go to Apoc

I have an all routes beat saved for bonuses, 80 app points is a nice bonus
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>>163535881
Don't expect final to answer anything form Iv. Final's plot barely even tries to hide the fact that it bears no resemblance to Iv and is all shit came up with after Iv that was definitely not what Iv was going for at the time.
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>>163536042
>all shit came up with after Iv that was definitely not what Iv was going for at the time.
This is bullshit everything in Final came from the the Hoyboy and Johnatron manga that Atlus released to explain shit that wasn't explained in the original game.
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>>163537195
Yeah. Each time they released something new they added to it in ways that changed it. Don't be ridiculous. There are overt edits that show that they weren't plannig ahead. Nozomi and danu being altered slightly because they were going to have a real role was only one aspect. But there's obvious indications. Mastema is totally absent from the game because they simply couldn't make sense of him in ivas plot coherently. His struggle with the other angels was based on a totally different presumed ambiguity than what they ended up going with. And merkabah and lucifer were retconned into totally unsympathetic pure evil villains when they wanted to shill neutral so hard that law and chaos became bad ends. Their characterizations don't even make sense relative to Iv. Since them being this unsympathetic retroactively makes johnathan and walter look unsympethatic also, for being somehow either evil or stupid enough to go with them. Which is the opposite of how they were depicted in IV.

And lets be honest. The anguish of the white was definitely intended to be MUCH deeper than "oh, we don't know where the doorstops are that if we find we can just off yhvh."
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Do you think satan has seven red dicks?
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>>163537195
>Fatlus in charge of managing to tell a complete story after wasting 30 hours of our time.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d55IkCunruA&feature=youtu.be
its basically them dick riding persona 5
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Why aren't Atlus touching Devil Summoner again?
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>>163542303
>persona avatar
>not gay

Dad is always right
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>>163541608
Baka
It'd be a dick with seven heads
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It is time to destroy this world and make way for a new one.
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New thread:
>>163550476
>>163550476
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