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/lzg/ - Lab Zero General (Skullgirls and Indivisible)

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No time for updating news edition

>Latest News

>Skullgirls News
The "FINAL" patch is dropping soon!
BETA patch notes: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ajPnJzly4YziSAoSjYIqRkukq3806UBNNmM1zc77dIo/edit

>Indivisible News
Anime opening is being done by TRIGGER
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZH9gEU8Do8Q&t=8s [Embed]

>News Feeds
https://twitter.com/indivisiblerpg
https://twitter.com/skullgirls
https://twitter.com/sgmobile

>Official Forums
http://skullheart.com

>Skullgirls Stuff
Stream Calender: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1mNi8lajKTmYgwvi_6UkeR24n6DvTONHHYiaIyxuXbBI
Beginner Forums: http://skullgirls.com/forums/index.php?forums/beginner-forum.30
Steam Guides: http://steamcommunity.com/app/245170/guides
Resources: http://skullheart.com/index.php?threads/beginner-resources-thread.242
Public Discord Chat: https://discordapp.com/invite/0WWSQspQVqkHy4In
Wiki: http://skullgirls.wikia.com/wiki/Skullgirls_Wiki
Outdated SRK Wiki: http://wiki.shoryuken.com/Skullgirls
/fgg/ Just go to training mode and set "Attack Data" to "Advanced" for frame data
/sgg/(rip) Album: http://mediafire.com/download/9b02vpj9vvot9x2/sgg+album.zip
SG Mobile Site: http://hiddenvariable.com/skullgirls
Official Merch: http://eightysixed.com/collections/skullgirls
More Official Merch: http://sanshee.com/collections/skullgirls

>Indivisible Stuff
Main theme(WIP): https://youtube.com/watch?v=mTFmaDYfKBk [Embed]
Kickstarter with free prototype: https://indiegogo.com/projects/indivisible-rpg-from-the-creators-of-skullgirls#/updates
Forums: http://skullheart.com/index.php?forums/indivisible.103
Official YT: https://youtube.com/channel/UCSvJctUjDhlGS3jFwlhSB-g
Official Site: http://indivisiblegame.com

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1st for purr-fection
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So anything new for indiv announced this month?
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3rd for the cutest
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>>163201101
Dude, this month was Trigger and BackerKit, and PS4 Theme.
Where you been?
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>>163201101
Plus the backerkit helped the funding closer to the VO goal.
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>>163200352
https://youtube.com/watch?v=MBNTxw-kLVE
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2nd for foreplay variety
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Game is hard

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cd6-ddQsZgE
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>>163204051
I wonder why they haven't updated on that yet.

I hope it's because they're close and are waiting to see if it gets funded in the next few days.
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>Miss Fortune with large breasts
Why?

>>163205887
Liam a cute!
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drawfags please draw painwheel eating a chilidog since its the 25th anniversary of sonic
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Would suck for Ajna to have to find new clothes every time she Herukas out.
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>>163213327
she might just have a whole warehouse full of that outfit in her inner realm or something like that
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Best girl.
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https://twitter.com/MikeZSez/status/811007728562774017
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>>163214501
Maybe Roti holds on to them.

Actually I think the cloth she wears around her waist is probably the same as what Roti wears as a cape.
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>>163204730
As much as Triple-Q likes to spam Gundam style and Snow q like the awful memes they are, he can do a fantastic tribute artwork to Skullgirls.
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>>163210143
but there's already artwork with hot dogs and hamburgers

I want to see her eat a gyro, or a burrito.
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>>163215385
Skullgirls rootkits when
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I hope Kikuta also does some rockout themes for indivisible
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https://twitter.com/MikeZSez/status/811039506413404164
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>>163223721

Sony does it again
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What is the purpose of a "burst bait" as opposed to a regular bread and butter combo?
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>>163227085
It catches people who mash or try to throw tech.
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Is it bad that I've been playing this game for a week now and I haven't left training mode?
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>>163227608
That's completely fine. Online can be intimidating.

>>163227085
Forgot to mention that it can force the opponent to not ground tech if you go for a hard knockdown setup
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>>163205887
>Game is hard
How is this any different to an IAD in anime games?
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>>163228965
You have to do it much faster than an IAD. Almost impossible on stick.
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>>163221417
you mean rockout as in really good
or rockout as in literal rock music?

cuz he could probably deliver on both
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>>163215609
>>163204730
Imagine Marie blasting that shit on the whole catacombs after she finished killing the Medici mafia
>PATRICIA COME OVER TO THE SKULLGIRLS LAIR W E H A V E E L D R I T CH
B R E A K D A N C I N G N U N S H O T
S T R I P P E R N U R S E A N D
S I C K A S S B E A T S
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>>163223721
Ah that sucks. I hope it doesn't delay the Physical Release much.

But y'know what, props to Sony for giving their Testers a nice Christmas break.
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>>163223721
The curse is still real.
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>>163238301
honestly not sure if I'd blame the curse as much this time.
mike should have figured the week before holidays wasn't gonna be guaranteed to push something like this through QA.

asking us about undizzy so late wasn't good timing either.
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>>163242098
>Big Band: "Gotta blo-OHSHIT!"
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>>163223721
I'm not surprised anymore.
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Eric/Vonkoz doesn't work at Lab Zero anymore. Anyone know what happened?
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>>163247840

He finished his background work, now the assistants come in and add bells and whistles
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https://twitter.com/Animoose/status/811111547531427840
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>>163247840
I saw it too. Probably a combination of things.
It sounded like he really wanted to go back East coast, so looks like he made the move now that pre-production is over.

I'd love to see more about how the BG work they did developed to reach its current point from the last few updates.
Because the concepts he's shared were only from the start of the year, way before AX even.
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https://twitter.com/MikeZSez/status/811167519796908033
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>>163249982
HILARIOUS!
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Are all of the SGs Alex's designs? Were any created specifically for the game?
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>>163229104
just kindly ask kikez to make a macro for that too LOL
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>>163257450
yes

squiglys mom
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>>163257889
I know this is a shitpost but what's so bad about making inputs not retardedly difficult to execute?
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Why did my Mariel post get deleted

You damn monsters
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>>163261060

It was phrased pretty stupidly
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>>163262592
What does /lzg/ really think of Mariel?

I mean, she drew Cerebella. She deserves respect just for that. Would /lzg/ get her a christmas present? It's the final patch for Skullgirls and she's the artist. Would she even care? Is Mariel ever going on /vg/ ever again?
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>>163263108

Are you autistic?
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>>163263325
Skullgirls is ending soon (if not already).

We need to let Mariel know that she should be in Skullgirls 2.
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>>163263527

Yeah ok, you're an autist.
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>>163263805
Whatever you feel about me, that's irrelevant.
The FINAL patch for Skullgirls is coming. That's the last spurt of relevancy the game will ever get, and even currently the game is dying.

That means the ride is almost over. But Mariel is still an artist, and she might work on Skullgirls 2. It is OUR responsibilty to convince her to put herself in that game. Because no one else will.

Mariel needs to be here where she belongs. And she deserves something for creating a legendary character like Cerebella.
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>>163264117
Do you have to give Bellafags a bad name?

I'm sure Mariel will work on SG2 if she likes doing it.
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>>163263108
She should simply be recognized for her artistic talents.
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>>163264295
Does Christina Vee go on these threads?
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>>163264396
And her hot figure
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>>163265936
>>163264396
I still believe that one day, Mariel will be ourguy.

She will be a fitting unlockable character in SG2. Her fourth-wall breaking mechanic will be unique and her moveset will be the most creative one to date.
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>>163266115

Hands off, fucker

She is already married
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>>163266248
how come when I read that, my chest felt heavy? how come
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>>163266596
must be the knowledge that she takes the chad dick every night
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>>163267005
you didnt have to do me wrong like that man
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>>163267971
>Mariel will never cosplay as Filia
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>>163268103

Parasoul has a kinuko palette
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You who keeps bumping this thread, what keeps you going? Is it the same thoughts?
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>>163268780
hate and love
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panzerfaust
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>>163270390
I want to look like this one day
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>>163257450
Alex created Skullgirls, so most of the main and supporting characters were his designs. Ones that we know he didn't plan originally were

Stanley - Random BG NPC saved from death and turned into a fleshed out character
Fukua - MikeZ's concoction of Alt Filias from the Alpha, and named after a misspelling by Brady
Robo Fortune - Conceived by Kimlinh during a livestream. Designed by the cleanup artists.
Graham-O-Tron (Molly) - Created during the IGG, probably with Mike's input
JuJu - RIP
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>>163270497
tfw flat
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>>163270497
im a girl and i kinda look like this but with dark hair..l
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Dekillsage is streaming
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>>163272541
stop it Mariel
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were there going to be any more of those lzg football matches before new years?
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>>163273632
wow that one guy was close to killing sage's assist, but because he was using butcher's blade assist, he kept losing the meter for snapback.
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>>163273632
>>163276937

Link please
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>>163277493
the usual place
twitch tv/dekillsage
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEddHRrcbwI
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>>163282569
that'd look way nicer with a proper scan
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what SG is best for alleviating depression
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>>163283221
just play with Ms. Fortune's head

she lost her friends to the mafia but she still manages to find things to smile about
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how much would Eliza pimp out Fortune for going the whole way raw
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>>163285908
I don't think she's letting anyone else touch her blood trophy.
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Which sg is the comfiest
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General
We've recently had an influx of players from another popular fighting game.
Welcome, all of you!
We hope you enjoy the ability to display frame data and hitboxes in Training Mode, as well as the plethora of choices available for both players to select at the end of each game. To help you feel more at home, I've added the Launch Option -ascendhigher, which will increase the native input delay of Skullgirls from between 3-4 frames to between 6-7 frames*.
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https://twitter.com/MikeZSez/status/811324495122178049
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combo breaker 2017

https://twitter.com/Skullgirls/status/811324193115500544
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>>163288735
I'd really like to go, but here I am over in Ohio.
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>>163281550
wow they put us pretty early in the trailer. that's dope.
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https://twitter.com/Game_Realms/status/811067776144003072
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New Shantae is out!
Good luck on your new adventure brown sister!
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>>163295798
>Be wary of divine
>Try pyromancy
In all seriousness, this is an awesome interpretation of Double. I wish she had more moments outside her ending where she turns into an omnipotent kaiju-shoggoth hybrid.
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>>163296559
Those traits are more attributed to Venus than Double I think.
Double is a beast, but she has limits. Venus seemingly has no limits.
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https://clips.twitch tv/dekillsage/LongGoatPeoplesChamp
https://clips.twitch tv/dekillsage/DeterminedGoshawkMVGame
https://clips.twitch tv/dekillsage/BloodyDragonflyDuDudu
https://clips.twitch tv/dekillsage/BraveAlpacaWholeWheat
https://clips.twitch tv/dekillsage/HealthyBatSuperVinlin
https://clips.twitch tv/dekillsage/FamousKangarooKappa
https://clips.twitch tv/dekillsage/PuzzledStorkDAESuppy

More clips but these are from a while ago. Didn't get any from his stream today, sorry.
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>>163296874
The Gehenna realm is basically Double's stomach, so wouldn't her shapeshifting powers be amplified there? That Pod Double from her ending looked pretty damn tall.
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>>163295798

is she married?
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>>163298629
yes
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Fukua
- Added a 4f buffer window for normal attacks after j.HK, on hit only, to help with some of her more difficult combo routes. Fixed corrupted data for her that made the end of j.HK repeat. A new build is now up.
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>>163200352
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHrvcxL5Ol0

New Shantae game is finally out. Was "only" delayed by almost a year. I wonder how long Indivisible will be delayed by?
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>>163297729
Yeah but based on Eliza's SM it seems like Gehenna is fixed to a location and not under Double's complete control.
She couldn't subdue Eliza with it (even though Eliza was feeding off of it), lock her in it, or chase her from it.

We also only see Double taking her larger form after her opponents are weakened and she's ready to feed,
but when aggressive (vs Annie, Eliza, Squigly) she seems to keep her size closer to what it is in the game.

So Double appears to have limits, and some of these might also be related to the strength of the Skullgirl at the time.

Meanwhile Venus is a multidimensional being, and her beastly form, which is supposedly endless, is under her complete control.
She and Double are both Lovecraftian, but Venus is definitely the higher tier of it.
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>>163293405
>>163300404
Very happy for Shantae.

And tbf, WF were a little over ambitious with their initial deadline.
They estimated only 1 year of development time on the KS while also still having to wrap up Pirate's Curse in that first year.
They also took care of those PC ports for the other Shantae games, and the Switch Force games.
They're a bigger studio than LabZero, but not by much.

Most of LabZero has been focused on Indiv, so as long as Mike isn't holding anything up with SG stuff, the delays should hopefully not be long.
Any time in 2018 would still be on the mark, for the most part, and that's a generous window from here.
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>>163301241
Isn't Double implied to be only a fraction of a whole?

Like assuming she's the mother/lamia, double isn't the only part of her.
IIRC the skullheart itself was implied in Eliza's storymode to be a piece of Lamia.
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>>163303212
I don't think Double is connected to Lamia though, she's just a piece. A standalone that serves the Trinity.
If she could tap into greater power on her own, she probably wouldn't need to depend on mortals for anything.
But she's clearly tasked with maintaining the Skullgirl Cycle for some reason.
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>>163302838
I don't understand why so many kickstarters run by actual developers gave themselves so little time. I guess saying "wait 3 years" would be less appealing for people to donate?
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>>163300404
is there any difference between the backer version and the one released today on steam?
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>>163300404
Why is everyone a shortstack now?
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https://twitter.com/MikeZSez/status/811383596455858176
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>>163304094
Yeah that's probably the case. Honestly I feel like the Shantae KS must have originally been designed by their PR guys and not the devs. They almost fucked everything up by playing too safe

They cut down the scope of the game to keep the funding budget low, obviously underestimated development time, and timed the campaign simultaneously with M#9's (thinking it would help).
And I'll say it...they were probably the reason Shantae was pale at the start too. That was no accident. Mariel was on their team at the time, and we KNOW she's all about the skintones.

But thankfully WayForward got their act together, and looks like the game itself turned out all right.
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>>163307118
hey buddy
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>last hit of Big Band's level 3 kills
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>>163308236
>mfw I requested that drawfag to make that image
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Do we know if Vitale feels anything toward Cerebella at all? I know he cares more about her as a tool but does he care about her at all?
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>>163297707
ty friend
dekillsage is streaming again right now btw (actual betawulf this time).
peanuts was actually on earlier too, if you wanna check the archives.
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>>163310035
>peanuts was on earlier too
o-oh ;_;
broke my heart when i found out he was in a relationshipwith a guy on top of that
Thanks for letting me know, I'll hop in.
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ohSHIT that BS comeback!
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>>163310281
Everyone is in a relationship with a guy
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>>163310696
https://clips.twitch tv/dekillsage/CrowdedCockroachHeyGuys
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>>163299259

fug
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>>163310025
He probably loves her like if she was a goldfish that does tricks.
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Anyone have frame data for akuma yet?
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who voted for brain drain?
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>>163317976
set attack data to advanced
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>>163307118
Can't wait to play her in Indivisible.
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skrullgirls
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>>163310025
she's a useful tool.

You keep her sharp, but also store her in the shed.
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>>163242098
Why does this happen? Is it intentional or can Mike not change it because of the engine?
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>>163325330
Why does what happen? Reflector? or Big Band taking the hit?
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How's Akuma?
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>>163326437
big band ruining the punish probably
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>>163329717
I'd wanna see the hitboxes. That seemed a little far to bet on a raw Lv3 anyway.
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>>163329851
uh big band pushed staggering cerebella away from his own bella after his bella reflected the lv3
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>>163330590
Oh, but I thought Assists being able to push was standard. Is it not supposed to be the case for hitstuns?

I guess that part just didn't surprise me.
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Q: Is there a cut off date for the VO stretch goal if the $2,050,000 goal is not met?
>It's the end of next year. But that could be cutting it really close for the VO to work out, schedule-wise, so the sooner we get it the sooner we can plan.

Q: Do you have actors in mind for if you do hit the VO strech goal?
>We don't have specific actors in mind yet to voice the game's cast.
>We're planning on using SAG-AFTRA in order to access a wide array of professional actors, rather than using the standard anime VO crew you hear in most games.

Q: Is there a recommended requirements for PC? I've got an old laptop.
>We want it to run on an many machines as possible, but it's unknown what the final specs will be at this time.
>If you can run the prototype, you're probably OK. But specs will increase a bit from there, since we're improving various graphical elements. But it won't be a crazy system hog, either.

Q: For the short anime bits, are we talking in-engine scenes with unique character animations for story scenes, or actual animated movies?
>In-engine with some unique character animations. We're contracting three minutes from Trigger total, and not all of it is for the opening, just the vast majority of it.
>Don't expect too much in the way of unique animations - they're really expensive, so we need to use them sparingly.
>Most games from the 16/32-bit era barely use any unique animations. I'd imagine we'll have more than that, but we have to be careful or it could easily overrun the animation budget.
>Just making sure your expectations are in line with what's feasible. A little can go a long way with that, when done right.

Q: Can we trade full VO for more animated Trigger sequences tho?
>Sorry, we've booked Trigger for as much time as they can spare in their busy schedule.
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>>163333012
>end of next year
That's alot of time.
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>>163335359
I guess they're leaving it open for the end of the BackerKit period.
But if it didn't get funded until then, they'd probably have to debate whether they'd be willing to delay the game so there'd be VO on release day.

It's really close now though. No way it'll take that long to get funded.
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>>163227169
>tec
I've heard of this term before,and i know there are lots of kinds,most of you here would just tell me to fuck off and search it on Google,but truth to be told i'd like to hear what you guys actually would say since .What is tech actually,and how to perform it? I'm a complete shit when it comes to fighting games
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>>163337194
Press LP+LK within a few frames of your opponent to escape a throw.
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>>163337194
Theres a part on the game's Tutorial that goes over teching, so be sure to practice that section a bunch.

Also, concerning the post you quoted, throws are one way people can reset combos, which can be tough for opponents to react to.
If the person being hit in your combo expects a throw reset, they may pre-emptively try to throw tech, so it's a read and not a reaction.
So if you burst bait instead, their throw input will activate the burst and give you the opportunity to punish.
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2017's gonna be a long year
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In what age is indivisible supposed to take place
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>>163343081
It's on an alternate world that's part of a multiverse. At the center of the world the multidimensional goddess of destruction has been sealed at the base of a giant spire that shoots up to the heavens. Like backwash, the goddess in her travels dragged with her various technology and even civilizations from other worlds she devoured, which now settle on this world as she was finally locked away.
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>>163344783

Cool where was this shown
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Are the physical copies shipping yet?
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>>163346668

January 2017 at the earliest

Considering sony closed up testing department temporarily for the holidays it is likely we see it in february 2017
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http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=manga&illust_id=60477359
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>>163347254
>barely any doujins years after the game came out
>the few lewds usually have shit art

One nuke wasn't enough. We need to finish them off.
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>>163347825

They dont make more doujins by getting nuked you stupidhead
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so I have a copy of skullgirls on steam
is the the most recent? if i pirate dlc, will it work?
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>ken's high/low mixups now
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>>163347873
>is the the most recent?

yes

>if i pirate dlc, will it work?

no
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>>163341604
Ajna has a better design than Ryuko
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apparently I had skullgirls with some dlc but not robo-fortune nor beowulf
are these two any good and are they worth buying?
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>>163349535
Try them out in the Beta (they're free to play there) and see if you like them. It's hard to say if they're worth it since we don't know how you like to play.
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>>163349535

Just get the 2nd encore upgrade dlc its cheaper than buying all the character separately wven if you own a few already
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>>163349637
I'm only missing robo-fortune and beowulf, that's $4.
the 2nd encore upgrade is $15. That would be spending 3x the amount of money.
Why would I do that?
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>>163349712

Voiced storymodes.
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How do you check the number of players playing the game on Steam?
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>>163349809

steamspy

http://steamspy.com/search.php?s=skullgirls
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Is there any reason to not use Knees with Beowulf's grab and finish it with Da Grendel Killa?
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>>163349910
Punishable if whiffed.
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>>163350031
I meant choosing those hits after landing the initial grab.
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>>163349809
How to get to this?
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Any good Chun-Li guides you guys could give me?
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>>163326567
>>163347924
>>163351847
Stop this shit
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>>163351942

Dont feed him (you)s, just report and move on
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When will the Pixiv artist finish the Marie blowjob gif?
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>>163351942
Searching for /fgg/ leads to here.
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>>163354076
The skullgirls community proving themselves as mature individuals once again.
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>>163352551
Not our fault you're too dumb to check if you actually found the right place.
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>>163355484

You spamming offtopic SF shit has torpedoed any argument you can make, fuck off and end your bloodline
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The Skullgirls community needs Mama

Mama will save us
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>>163355613
Yeah in hindsight I should have known that this is the Skullgirls general when I saw that it was so fucking dead.
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>>163355761
>You spamming
it's not just me lol

>>163356483
BURN
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>>163357220
how did Skullgirls do in Japan? Im surprised there isnt much henta
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>>163357742
http://www.pixiv.net/search.php?word=%E3%82%B9%E3%82%AB%E3%83%AB%E3%82%AC%E3%83%BC%E3%83%AB%E3%82%BA%20OR%20(%20skullgirls%20)&r18=1
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>>163357809
>"you may not access this page"

goddammit. I hope there is some buttjob in there
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>>163358108
>2016
>not having a pixiv account

Get with the times, grandpa
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>>163358185
I have one but Im not on my pc right now

I stole my little sister's laptop because mine is having issues
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>>163358319
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>>163358475
this is your little sister's favorite skullgirl
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>>163358319

Dont you know your own udername and password for that site?
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>>163359594
how much skullgirls buttjob are there?
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You're really dedicated huh
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>>163346487
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Hv0YSUyoV0&t=68s
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>>163364116

thanks
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>>163365896
You're welcome.

It was from the livestream they did, so it's a little long, but it's got a lot of interesting info.
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SKULLBROS IDENTIFY YOURSELVES!
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>>163349910
I haven't played Wulf in a bit, but last I remember, one pummel does more damage and the other pummel builds more meter.
Pummel adds to hit count which can scale the damage so it's better to get the throw damage early in the combo and save the pummels for late combo if possible.
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Whats the difference between bella and beo gameplaywise?
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>>163371823
Bella's closer to a traditional grappler. She has more command grabs and is generally about big hard hitting moves.

Beowulf hits hard too but he's more about the pressure and mixups. He only has three command grabs but he enters a special grab mode from every grab that lets him extend the damage, do setups for more pressure, and/or build his Hype resources.

Both characters are actually pretty good Solos but Beowulf's been nerfed in damage a good bit, so he gets a more mileage now on teams.
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>>163377369
I'm really sad that there's no more new characters. This is it. I'm sure if Mike Z started another fundraiser it would get funded again and we can have more wacky fun characters.

Maybe even put Mariel in the game.
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>>163378379

No, I want Skullgirls 2
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>>163333012
Good, they're using the budget for more than just the opening.
That means the stretch goal will be a nice boost to the overall production value of the game.
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>>163333012
So 2 min of anime OP and 1 minute of animation for key scenes

So if they make 3 anime scenes they are gonna be around 20 sec each

Are there examples of anime scenes in games that only last 20 secs?
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>>163381187
pony tails are the best
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>>163320326
Me

He was my favorite of the male characters
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is this shantae general
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>>163385461
This is /lzg/. The soup kitchen for Shantae refugees is on your right.
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>>163385618
thank you kind man, have a shantae
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>>163385461
>>163386104
Welcome Shantae fans. We at /lzg/ appreciate your equal love of 2D sprites and brown cuties.
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>>163385461
>>163385618
>>163386104
>>163386997

*tips autism*
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>>163387918
And this is /lzg/'s unofficial mascot, kso.
He's a schizophrenic German that likes to shitpost memes everyday and sometimes pretends to be a former top Skullgirls player.

Be careful not to feed him too many (You)s or he'll start to go ballistic.
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Theres no shantae and wayforward general in vg?
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>>163358817
Not him but coincidentally my little sister's favorite Skullgirls character IS Peacock. Eliza comes next.
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>>163387918
Fighting games are for autists.
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>>163390502
Not the last time I checked.
Which surprised me because I wanted to share in some of the new release hype.

But that's okay. We share a lot in common with WF anyway.
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>>163391439
Skullgirls, maybe.
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>>163390502
There was a few /v/ threads and that's it. There's only 133 reviews for the game on Steam. Shantae is small time.
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Guys im having unavoidable p2p lag on all fightan games, want to play but i cant, my connection is fine for everything else but for some reason p2p sucks right now
how to fix it?
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>>163393254

restart your router
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>>163393254
did you restart your router?
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>>163396254
Yes, still lagging.
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>>163378379
Nah, it's time for them to move on to SG2.
It's time for Autumn to get their financial shit together, and for LZ to finally move SG away from supporting lastgen console hardware.
I also want to see Mike try out his new gameplay ideas that would be too drastic of a change for SG1.
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>>163390502
there's an indie game general iirc
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>>163385461
>>163386997
https://twitter.com/kinucakes/status/811747406408622080
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3 skullgirls streams up O_o
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>>163385065
good man
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Hey guys, I can't find anyone online. Is everyone on console or somethin?
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>>163405492
Beta, most likely.
Ask for a match in the discord.
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>>163405492
try quick matches
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>>163393254
Are you on a wired connection?
Skullgirls, specifically GGPO net code, doesn't work over wireless connections without huge issues.

If you're on a wired connection, just set up a program to ping an IP close to you that is stable and see what your ping fluctuation is.
If your ping is getting tons of jitter, record the time stamps of when to a file, and send that to your ISP and they will have to deal with it.
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>>163405195
Aw, I always catch them too late.
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https://twitter.com/IndivisibleRPG/status/811760872389427200
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>>163410091
So it's 2,018,780 in total. So close.
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>>163410091
not the massive bump some of us were hoping for, but it's nice to see that gap closing.
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>>163393254
>post router model
>how many people use the internet in your house?
>what security encryption is it under? (even if you are wired, there are certain modems/routers that have wireless functions enabled)
>obv make sure ur not downloading anything (turn off torrents, X out of webrowsers, turn off steam- oh wait jk)

my issue was that i had DDoS protection checked, which cause a lot of issues for anything i did on the internet. go into your router settings and make sure everything looks normal.
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>>163414154
Minette when?
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>>163414154
One nuke was NOT enough.
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>>163379403
They might not be planning on full cutscenes. They could just be making splash graphics or animated bust shots, which could be reused multiple times. Definitely a lot of effective ways they could use that budget.

But yeah, a lot of old jRPGs had short cutscenes. PS1 Lunar was posted in last thread which has some good examples:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGKdi98ISYk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXjQtuDRpnE

It's not just about playtime though, but also frame count. If you ignore stuff like minor mouth movements and digital effects (which a lot of LZ's artists could handle), you see some of these clips only use about 15-25 unique frames of animation. That's only like a second's worth of animation work in terms of drawings.

So depending on how they can plan and break down their work with Trigger, like having some LZ artists handle certain BGs or FX or whatever, they could potentially stretch a minute's worth of Trigger's artwork pretty far.
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>tfw Cerebella will never sit on your face while Vice-Versa jerks you off
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Happy Birthday, Princess.
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Parasoul is 25
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>>163422591
Feels bad man
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You have been visited by MONKEY SHANTAE of MAGICAL TRANSFORMATIONS

Gems and Oranges will come to you, but ONLY if you post FUCK OFF SHANTAE POSTER in this thread
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>>163425948
But Tree Shantae is the one that gives the oranges!
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>>163426287
You have been visited by DRYAD SHANTAE of MAGICAL TRANSFORMATIONS

Gems and Oranges will come to you, but ONLY if you post SHUT UP ANON in this thread
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https://twitter.com/MikeZSez/status/811754120381988864
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>>163426660
>it's going to run like shit on PC too

amazing. i'd blame the PS3 but apparently they don't know shit about anything.
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>>163426660
but sadly they're not going to be improved for PC.
https://twitter.com/MikeZSez/status/811754120381988864

maybe Mike might figure something out though, like he did for JPN audio vs ENG audio.
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>>163427142
>>163427262

He doesnt say anything about pc only talks about the ps3 version.

stop seeing things that arent there.
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>>163427325
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>>163427325
yes he does. scroll down
https://twitter.com/MikeZSez/status/811765000020709376
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>>163427467
>>163427557
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>>163427621
oh for god's sake
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https://twitter.com/kinucakes/status/811747406408622080
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I want to see Mariel's new Thorani drawings.

We got full-color Dhar sprites now, so you know they must be hiding some Thorani frames in that office too.
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>>163428649
I wonder if Dhar's sword is really bendy
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>>163423360
>>163422978
Didn't know she was that old
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>>163428649
Mariel looks hotter than most of her drawings, this is pretty rare for an artist.

Mariel

Rabu
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>>163432493
who
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>>163439237
>>163436228
correct me if I'm wrong but there's an anime influence here in the artstyle
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>>163439960
An anime influence in Skullgirls' art? No way.
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>>163434252
Mariel, our Mama. The one who drew Cerebella.

The queen of our hearts.
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>>163442648
She drew Cerebella but Alex designed her. Alex is the true waifu.
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>>163444495
Of course, but we can't deny Mama's talents. Every kid out there can design a character, but not everyone can draw them.

Mama was a huge part of Skullgirls. And because of that, also a part of us.
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>Would you like your name in Indivisible's credits? If so, let us know how you'd like to be credited. And, please - nothing inappropriate!
What I'm supposed to answer?
I just write the name I want to be credited?
Please explain.
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>>163445507

You are being creepy
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>>163445969
I just wish you guys would appreciate Mama too.
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>>163445965
please reply! ;_;
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>>163445965
>>163447984

Unless your name is "Faggot McAsshole" then you should be fine with just typing your real name
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>>163406059
I only find redpings
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>>163448702
How fast is your internet connection?
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>>163448702
And you're on a wired connection? Something's definitely up on your end.
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https://streamable.com/u2ur0
I made another one.

The first one https://streamable.com/a9cym
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SG is on sale on steam -70%

the 2nd encore ugrade is -50% off too
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If I buy the $2.99 Skullgirls on Steam, do I get everything and is it the latest version?
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>>163452440

Yes except the dlc characters, but those are still playable in the beta

the 2nd encore upgrade adds all the dlc characters and voiced storymodes
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any richfags willing to gift me Skullgirls?
please
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>>163452387
That's good they're finally able to give 2E some bigger discounts.
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>>163452440
you got cucked
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If I pirate SG, does that affect anything at all?
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>>163453672

online play isnt possible
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>>163453976
Fuck this game then
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Indivisible Prototype is still out there if you want a free game to play.
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Street Fighter @StreetFighter 4m4 minutes ago

#SFV hotfix server maintenance is complete. The ragequit system has been uneffected. Those with the quitting icon will still have them. Thank you for your patience.
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>>163456958
>no double buttjob with Filia and Cerebella

One nuke was not enough.
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2.99
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What are you guys thoughts on Toddabella?
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>>163462531

I like how he draws skullgirls but I hate that he pairs them with dbz characters, its so stupid
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>>163462531
He likes drawing Cerebella, Fukua & Princess Daisy, which are some of my favourite vidya girls
He has a unique artstyle that makes it stand out

Don't get why he pairs them with DBZ characters though, but I can easily ignore them so I don't mind

All in all he does some good porn, I like him
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>>163462531
His artwork is too shiny and feels flat. I admire his dedication, but it just looks bad.
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>>163463306
>>163463638
He actually traces real porn and just replaces the faces/hair with DBZ/skullgirls.

I want to like his art because a lot of lewd Cerebella and fat asses but I don't like some of the faces/shading. Would rather have JADF's art
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>>163463306
looks like shit
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>no discount for 2nd encore even though i own all of the dlc characters

well, at least i got it all for $5 two years ago
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were panty shots actually removed or not?
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>>163462531
I actually appreciate the art itself, pencil rendering like his requires a fair investment of patience and materials, but as a person he's definitely an oddball.

I'd probably give him more cred if he did less lewd fanart, because at least then I wouldn't have to imagine him fapping to DBZ crossover art in addition to his other quirks.
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>>163468104
There were some panty frames removed. I can't even remember why they decided to do it after like 2 years of them being in.
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>>163468104
here. these are all of the panty frames that were edited. that's 36 frames out of 15000.

>>163468648
because they were laid off when the game was released and it was a year and a half until the IGG happened. then their main priority shifted to getting the DLC characters done first.

the patch where they made the cosmetic changes also came with the new taunts, stage edits, and other things they held off on until the end.
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https://ryu2-5.tumblr.com/image/139671375775
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https://twitter.com/Skullgirls/status/812071547816902656
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>>163469189
this just makes them seem like they're not wearing panties at all
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Peacock
Squigly
Miss Fortune
Fukua
Painwheel
Valentine
Parasoul
Cerebella
Robo-Fortune
Double
Beowulf
Big Band
Filia

Is this the correct ranking of character weights?
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>>163469638
The panty shots were mostly pretty small to begin with. Filia and Cerebella were the only ones that showed underwear in their dead pose, so that's probably why they had wanted to change it.

The biggest edit though was the Cerecopter change where she was originally flashing panty and some bare back. Here's a comparison.
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>>163469189
How long did it take you to find all of these? Do you have any before and after comparisons besides the infamous Cerecopter and Filia/Bella death poses?
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>>163468104
Are people still going on about the stupid panty shot thing? It doesn't affect the quality of the game, so why can't they just drop this inconsequential bollocks?
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>>163472020
>make fanservice fighting game
>remove fanservice
>why are people mad?

i guess it'll just stay a mystery
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>>163470969
Another anon posted it a couple threads ago. If someone here has the old Compendium, they could probably look at the filenames to compare.
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>>163472020
The game is on sale. People find stuff about the panty censorship when they Google it or ask on 4chan.
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>>163472149
The artists were the only people that ever really cared that much about those 36 frames.
All any random person has to do is play the game for 5 minutes to see there's fanservice all over the place.
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>Final Fantasy XV is out
>The Last Guardian is out
>Donald Trump is president

Tell me 1 (one) reason why Skullgirls 2 can't happen.
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>>163473546
Donald Trump makes anime real
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>>163473546
Autumn Games
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>>163473546
But anon, I'm still waiting for Charles Barkely to win an NBA championship. It's gonna be a while. Just be patient.
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>>163474512
>dying Lab Zero sells Skullgirls IP
>Skullgirls 2 is 3D like KoF14 and characters all get different voice actors
>Mike Z becomes hobo
>Mariel resorts to doing porn
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New intros tier list
Big Band
Peacock
Cerebella
Painwheel
Filia
***POWER GAP***
Parasoul
Eliza
Valentine
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>>163475018
Keep the faith Anon. No matter what.

~A Cubs Fan
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>>163475572
Autumn Games already owns the IP. They could do that shit right now if they wanted.

Thankfully they've only gone as far as Skullgirls Mobile for now.
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Would you?
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https://twitter.com/Skullgirls/status/812096238682148864
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>>163475671
I wish Parasoul had Filia's hairflip.
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>>163475671

Someone got webms of the new intros?
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>>163477038
hnnnnggghh time for some voiced story mode my man
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>>163476909
I genuinely cannot tell if this is shopped.

The shine is too uniform and clashes with the stiches... but it could just be the material's lighting and the body paint looking weird in a low res shot like that. Her entire lower body just looks super off, especially since she doesn't seem to be casting a shadow.
it IS a she right
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>>163477845
Would you?
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>>163478176
No, but I would compliment her on her efforts.

Now find a good quality Beowulf cosplay
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>>163478328
As the straightest, most heterosexual man in this thread I cannot do that. Sorry
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>>163477178
I don't have any webms, but here's Poccola's video
www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_isspnHwaY

fun fact - they added new pantyshots to the game with some of these.
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>>163469638
The shots that were removed makes it look less like they're wearing a thong.
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>>163481743
Miss Fortune's bendiness gives her some really energetic poses. I love it.
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My boy
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>>163481743
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Remember when we had that fundraising competition for the last EVO main stage spot, but smashfags won due to the sheer amount of autismbux that they had?
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>>163483516
I've always been far more upset that Injustice took the spot we were told was never there.

Smashers gave a ton of money to support charity, just like we did, and we were both way ahead of the pack.
>Super Smash Bros. Melee: $94,683
>Skullgirls: $78,760
>Super Street Fighter 2 Turbo: $39,567
>MLP: Fighting is Magic: $5,280
>Dead or Alive 5: $1,900

Nobody wold have denied that we deserved that extra spot, especially the Smashers.

But at least that fundraiser is what encouraged LZ to make the IGG happen. We wouldn't even have had a PC version today without it.
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https://twitter.com/sgmobile/status/812126754215051265
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not really notable enough to announce, but studio yotta is doing work on indivisible.

source: their site
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>>163475572
good end
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Why don't you play Cerebella?
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>>163487234
Did Yotta say if they'll be doing anymore Indivisible streams?
Atrox is one of their guys but he hasn't streamed his Indivisible work in a while.
Not sure if that's maybe due to NDA or spoilers.
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>>163490880
How popular is skullgirls in Japan compared to here?
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>>163486751
>However, even though your feedback was overwhelmingly positive,

lmao
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prototype update when?
would it still be called a prototype?
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>>163495169
Possibly. Mike has a build of the prototype with the new engine lighting, new moves for Ajna and gameplay tweaks and stuff.
If he put that out I'd consider that a prototype update instead of a Beta.

Once we get a new level and new enemies though, then I'd call it a Alpha/Beta.
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>>163200352
Never got that swimsuit dlc.
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>>163223721
This is what you get for going back to console.
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So do you guys just pretend to like Indivisible?
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>>163500396
No, I really loved the prototype. Even did a couple speedruns of it.
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>>163500572
I find it kinda boring. Like I tried playing it seriously than I just started mashing the buttons and got the same effect.
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>>163500656
Did you fight the secret bonus boss? Mashing definitely isn't good enough to win there.

Casual players will probably be able to get through the story okay with just mashing, but like the cat I expect a lot of room for players who want to dive deeper, and hopefully the addition of training mode encourages players to experiment around more. I hope that stretch goal for the bonus dungeon gets met.
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>>163500843
Going to be honest my judgement of Indivisible is completely biased. I wanted more DLC for Skullgirls.
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>>163500396
>>163500656
I enjoyed it a lot, and I think it'll be even better with all of the new enemies, abilities, and party members to flesh out the mechanics further.

I think the way it's designed already blends the platforming and combat really well compared to VP or Paper Mario, since it's treating itself more as a platformer first and RPG second.
Simply having battles take place on the map makes a big difference in how the exploration can play into your strategy towards combat.
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>>163500843
I like Razmiless runs.
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>>163491338
It's not bigger than their homegrown franchises, but for what it's worth, it's probably the most popular western fighting game over there at this point.

Objectively, it was top of the PSN download charts back when it launched, and it's the first western FG to get an official licensed JPN dub and arcade release.
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australian
skullgirls
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looks like thursday wasn't so thicc this time
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>>163507651
what can we do?
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Which sg is the most religious outside of double
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>>163510859
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>>163510859
Parasoul is a devout worshipper of the Trinity, wears their upside-down cross.
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>>163510859
Yeah it's probably Parasoul, but Bella might have some upbringing.
Mafia always like the family to look good for the church.
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>>
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>>163511614
MUH
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>>163511614
my dick belongs between the mouths
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>>163491976
The overall responses I saw from posts and videos was positive. I didn't see any big Yays to Nays.

There was a lot of constructive criticism, of course, but that's why it's good they put the Beta out.
If they've been adjusting things based on the feedback, then the game should turn out pretty good.
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http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=60505340
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>>163518265
>game is at its final patch
>still lacking doujins

One nuke was not enough. We need to make them pay.
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What the fuck is happening?
http://gelbooru.com/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=3473251
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>>163519212
Good thing we dropped two and not one then.
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More brown girls please
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>>163522513
Instead of getting Filia buttjob we get that shit. The THICC needs to be used for the right reasons
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>>163510859
Probably the one with a cross resting atop her ample bosom.
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What do you guys think of my Ajna drawing?
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>>163535584

not lewd enough
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>>163535963
hmm if only there was a guy reading this thread who's capable of drawing lewds. A certain guy who doesn't respond but lurks
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>>163519212
Arcana Heart's been moongrown pornbait for 10 years. Of course it'll have more.
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>>163536447
Yeah but no one the planet knows what Arcana Heart is while Skullgirls became #1 best seller on Japanese PSN in a week. Everyone knows who Filia is compared to Aino Heart.

Marie > Lieselotte
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>>163536767

Westerners dont draw doujins as much
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>>163536767
Arcana Heart seemed pretty recognized in Japan. I remember seeing more cabs for it than BB while I was over there in '09, but that's probably when it was starting to fade.
.
Plus AH when it came out kinda filled a void for 2D fighters at the time. So even some people that weren't into waifufighting checked it out. It drew a lot from the GG and Melty fans especially.
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>>163536445

Where is his album?
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>>163537685
Please draw the doujins. please
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>>163535584
>>163540268
Wow, look at what you've become.
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>>163540979
What? What did I become?

Is he lurking? Will he ever respond again?
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>>163535584
>>163540268

Post more art
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>>163542003
sure thing
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Is it possible to be just naturally bad at fighting games? Like, your brain works too slow to input combos?
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>>163547660
What character(s) are you playing?
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>>163547660
If you can't do something in Skullgirls then yeah quit. Friendly advice.
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>>163547660
You cant tap a few keys/buttons in a row?
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>>163510859
>>163511043
>>163511052
>>163511241
>>163534159
???????????
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>>163547660
You can do it, anon. It's all about practice and experience.
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so who is the best SG for playing story mode in the Skullgirls 2nd Encore Upgrade DLC that is currently 50% off from its original price (was $14.99 USD, now $7.49 USD)?
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>>163551175
THICK
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>>163551175
If i call her fat,would that make her mad?
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>>163551482

All of them

Painwheel probably
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>>163551482
For 2nd Encore Valentine is good, because Laura Post does easily the best VO job on all the Story Modes..

Eliza's is good too, but you shouldn't play hers until you've done the others.
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>>163551482
tfw best girl has extremely boring story mode
hopefully SG2 gives her something actually interesting
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>>163554880
Oh I hope Lab Zero will make it to Skullgirls 2. Probably will tone down the sexuality a ton to cater to the tumblr crowd.
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>>163555462
Oh look, it's this shit again.
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>>163555462
>implying they wouldn't just reuse all the assets from the first game
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>>163478176
she should cosplay filia
I'd cuddle her all night long anyway
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>>163547660
it's 100% practice and dedication
EVERYONE can do it
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>>163478176
Hell yeah Envy's great. I'd probably go for her Velma cosplay though.
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Which Incarnation is staying on your team?
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>>163491338
Here's some recent arcade play.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RChLuZcUc-8
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>>163554880
Kek
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Mariel.

rabu

forever
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>>163564083
Why are some of you so attracted to her in the first place. If she didn't animate your favorite SGs would you even give 2 shits about her? So basically you only love her for her talent? omg how shallow can you get. You probably haven't even met her irl so you can't even use 'personality' as an excuse. tumblr/twitter posts are not real personality, so you can't go by those either.

If Mike Z and Alex Ahad were females (Miku Z and Alexis Ahad), would you fall for them too just because they were girls that worked on Skullgirls?
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>>163565846
Nigga. This is a general for people who """"""play"""""" Skullgirls and you expect them not to be thirsty as all FUCK?
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>>163565846
I would hold any L0 dick if they asked
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>>163565846
Mariel's hot, but I think you're stretching to suggest we all share Anon's awkward obsession.

I've been following Mariel's work since the MechaFetus blog where Persona and Paul Robertson also posted. I originally found out about them from following Bryan Lee O'Malley's work, since they were all working on the Scott Pilgrim game. They're all really good artists and it's cool to see how their careers have grown since then.
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Time for some Friday Night Skullgirls

twitch tv/ronaldokun
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>>163568989
who's the mystery prize donator?
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>>163571330
It's a mystery.
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>that photo of her in that white dress and heels

wew lab
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>>163572959
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>>163572959
don't be like that, anon. come on.
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>>163568241
I remember this.
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so which SG or Indivisible do you want for Christmas
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The training mode of Skullgirls makes me hate the training modes of other games.
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>>163577853
I'm really just glad the game got funded.
>>163560128
But Thorani's my girl on both counts!
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I love the SGC

>>163565846
>>163568558
This
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https://www.twitch
.tv/game_realms

mike is showing new things
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>>163579931
L Beat Extend assist was nerfed again, this is nice. It's less of the ultimate scrub killer now.
I use M so it doesn't affect me.
I would have preferred a Hornet Bomber nerf, though.
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>>163582314
Maybe he's worried vanilla players still haven't gotten over the original bomber nerfs.
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>>163582905
I don't mind it being good as a reversal but the fact that it pushes you back so far is bullshit.
Absolutely no reason not to use it on a zoning team, and Double is still an extremely good character anyway.
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so if Mike added Panzerfaust, would he make him play like Pot?
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You can make 3 more characters playable in Skullgirls.

Which ones do you pick?
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>>163584379
All I care about is Black Dahlia
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>>163584379
Feng
Minette
Scythana
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>>163584379
Annie, umbrella, and Ileum
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>>163584379
Annie
Black Dahlia
Aeon or Feng (coin flip for these two)
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>>163584379
All I want is Marie. Give me that and I'll freely give the other two away.

If I had to choose, probably Annie and Umbrella. so Mike Z would stop being so salty.
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>>163584379
I want to pound the shit out of Black Dahlia, Scythana and Venus

I want to play as non-boss Marie, time manipulator Aeon, and puppet man Taliesin
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>>163584379
Marie, Umbrella, Black Dahlia, because then we could have true story mode.
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>>163584379
Otomo
Minette
Panzerfaust
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>>163585006
>probably Annie and Umbrella. so Mike Z would stop being so salty.
Mike wasn't big on those two. I think some of his favorites were Beatrix, Panzerfaust, Molly, Andy, Hubrecht, and Isaac.
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>>163586162
>Andy
Still waiting for that damn Anvil to come out even though i know it's not gonna happen
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>>163584379
For me it'd be a flip between the three I voted for
Roxie
Brain Drain
Feng

or the three needed for canon story
Umbrella
Marie
Dahlia

I'd much rather have SG2 with all 6.
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>>163584379
Feng, Panzerfaust, and Ajna
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>>163586516
He said he was excited to do a Dudley style moveset for him, so he probably would have taken a lot of cues from 3S like BB did.
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>>163586838
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All I want for Christmas is to get pegged by Parasoul.
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>>163588137
I want Val tag-teaming my other hole while we're at it.
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Persona's doing Q&A on the Game Realms stream, and looking at arcade sticks.

He says they're going to try and do more work streams next year.
Also talked about how there were a lot of game ideas they pitched to publishers even before they went fulltime on SG.
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>>163584379
Minette, Umbrella and Scythana.
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>>163594381
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>>163593258
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>>163594507
FUCK
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>>163594559

Thats very impressive
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>>163555697
What is this, a Cerebella for ants?
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Happy Holidays /lzg/!
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>>163598331
I hope for a stream soon
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>>163590752

Cool anything else shown or said?
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>no, this can't be happening, i'm in charge here
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General
- Hopefully fixed an issue where the random number sequence was not being updated between online games in Ranked or in 2-player lobbies with no spectators. (THANK YOU AdenPhoenix for pointing this out!)

Peacock
- At the request of multiple Peacock players, George->L Teleport now requires specficially a QCB+LK / 236LK input, rather than any shortcut or motion using the MK/HK buttons.
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So if I buy the 2nd Encore I get all DLCs? Then why does Steam tell me to buy it together with the characters separately lol

Also how alive is the EU community, are there still people playing to improve, online tournaments and such? If I'll only be playing the PC, I might just not buy 2nd encore and save that money for GG Xrd idk
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>>163603712
yes. I dunno

pretty alive, we had tourneys just las week
Theres always players trying to improve in lobbies set to beginner

Pc ver is pretty much the most alive version next to the ps4 one
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More christmas girls please
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>>163602105
>Do you feel in charge?
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>>163608581
>You're a Big Band!
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>>163603712
Save that money, don't buy Skullgirls.
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What is Filia's most optimal combo right now?

Where do you guys look to for up-to-date Skullgirls stuff?
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>At some point Eliza undressed Fortune
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>>163611757

The skullheart forums
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>>163613162
Filia is a very complex
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>>163613371

And thick
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>>163616141
pure, untouched maiden
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>>163613371
No one in Skullgirls is complex.
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>>163616864
see >>163374125
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>>163610146
But that's no fun anon
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Filia is best girl

She is pure and fertile so perfect for waifuing and babymaking
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>>163607134
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>>163618465
Filia

we want milky
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>>163619287

Your shtick only works with kinuko
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>>163618465
But she has a parasite.
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https://ryu2-art.tumblr.com/post/154900463141/
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>>163619405
Even though Filia is just a schoolgirl canonically, she's developed enough for milky. No one knows how old Mama is but she is probably able to milk at will too.
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>>163620751
is that your tumblr?
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>>163621503
Yes
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>>163621992
would you draw any kind of NSFW art?
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>>163623079
Why?
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>>163623412
some artists are too ethical
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>>163623843
"would you draw any kind of NSFW art?"

Yes.
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>>163623937
You draw good-looking thighs and I respect that
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>>163603712
Hey anon If you happen to swing back by, EU Skullgirls is pretty active and they've got some really good players.
I know they do a monthly online tourney called EuroFight.
http://skullgirls.com/forums/index.php?threads/euro-fight.8897/#post-385097

You can probably hook up with any of those guys and they could connect you with their.other groups.
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>>163617683
FUCK MAN
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>>163626208
Filia would be such a cute mom
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>>163620751
He doesn't draw enough Nadia
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https://www.twitch
.tv/zsonicfox

SonicFox is labbin'
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>>163633959

who the nigga he fighting against?
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>>163612974
it wouldn't be eliza it would be albis
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>>163634025
yes
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would hosts fuck there parasites
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>>163634483
it'd be like masturbation. so....maybe?
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>>163635672
yeah but i see it only happening when they share a really close bond like squiggly and leviathan since we can assume that parasites don't have a sex drive
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>>163617683
looks like Val's getting her favorite kitty for Christmas
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What does Beowulf do in his free time?
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>>163642041
sit on his chair
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Why does Skullgirls have such easy execution?
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>>163634483
>>163635820
I wonder what laws in the kingdom are like regarding parasites.

Are parasites illegal in certain places? Could parasites get married even if their hosts didn't want to?

You've got fish people hanging out with humans, so it doesn't seem like it'd be that bizarre.
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Fox's Bella mixups are looking mad scary.
Is he going to be at Frosty too, or just dekillsage?
>>
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>>163634318
>Albis saw Fortune naked
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>>163648984
A bird stripping a cat naked, such role-reversal fuel.
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>>163647093
There's a second part to this...
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>>163645381
Because execution shouldn't be the hard part.
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>>163651984
Why not? What's wrong with it?
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>>163652091
Because that's all single-player training mode masturbation. Fighting games are supposed to be about responding to your opponent, but 1f links and pretzel motions have nothing to do with the other player's actions.
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>>163652289
Why aren't all reversals QCFs then. DPs are unreasonably hard.
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>>163652357
DPs are not harder. 623 and 236 are both just three inputs.
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>>163652431
So is 491...
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>>163652531
That's really not even close to the same thing at all. 491 would involve going all the way across opposite directions twice, plus an up input halfway through the motion. It'd be very very hard to not accidentally jump before finishing the input.
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Merry Christmas
I love you guys
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>>163658031
Merry Christmas, much love to you as well!
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>>163658031
I'm personally more ambivalent towards you guys
merry christmas, though
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>>163658031
>>163658246
>>163658259
Merry Christmas!
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>>163658031
Merry Xmas to all of you Anons, SGs, Indivisibles, and lurking Lab Zeroes!

I look forward to another year of legitimate gameplay discussion, waifuposting, and shitposting with you guys!

Congratulations and Happy Holidays!
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>>163660834
Cool, a new one to hang on the wall. I've still got the one from last year
Thanks anon
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>>163660834
yeah buddy
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>>163660834
It was a good year! We got new gameplays from Indiv development and SG Beta, Skullgirls had its biggest tournament year since 2012. We got the Japanese Dub licensed outside of Japan, and we almost have VO funded for Indivisible.

Next year will be Skullgirls Mobile, Indivisible in full production mode, and hopefully the biggest SG Combo Breaker tournament ever. Should be a good time!
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>>163662340
That's cute, thanks anon
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Anyone wanna gift me Skullgirls on Steam?
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>>163662696
you cant afford to spare two fucking dollars?
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>>163662696
sorry anon, I have a key, but I'm saving it for a special friend.

are you able to use the steam marketplace? I just learned how to use it last year.
you could probably earn the sale price's worth on there if you have enough stuff in your inventory.
that's how I got 2nd Encore down to $4 during its first week with the discount.
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>>163662895
the full game is 10 dollars

>>163663249
It's alright. Friends are friends
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So Indivisible isn't having the same composer as Skullgirls.

Which composer should work on Skullgirls 2?
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>>163662340
what a cute tree
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>>163665126
Yamane will be long done with Bloodstained, so they should just bring the team back. Yamane, Brenton/Blaine, Vincent. They all did a great job.

Actually that's worth noting. To our knowledge only Kikuta's handling Indivisible's music so far, so he's going to be putting out a lot more than Yamane did by the time it's done.
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Merry Christmas /lzg/
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>>163657814
The nun looks very nice in a sling bikini. 10/10 would pay holy tithes to.
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Have a Happy Holiday everyone!

Wishful thinking, but VO funded for New Years sure would be nice.
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>he's still bumping the thread
>it's Christmas
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>>163657882
Merry Christmas too,ya asshat

>>163658031
>Goku
What the fuck anon
Mind giving the sauce
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>>163658031
>>163658031
God fucking damnit
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>>163667863
>>163657814
Why not have a tithefuck instead
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Skullgirls 2 when?
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>>163676689
Too long from now.
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Will Mama ever come back to us /vg/?
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>>163679553
No. You've scared her off as did we all when she was here before.
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>>163679591
I'm sorry Mama.

I am pain
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>>163680209
You should draw more
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>>163676689
I'm curious of what they'd do with a Skullgirls 2. Like, would they just focus on adding more characters and story content, or would they actually change the game up mechanically?
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>>163676198
>tfw i will never go to a beach with swimsuit double and cuddle together in the sea
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>>163680585
Mike has already said high super jumps, 150 undizzy, no more LLMMH ground chains.
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>>163680454
Okay.

>>163680585
New characters, continuation of story. Same gameplay mechanically of course, Lab Zero won't ruin it.

Probably playable Annie, Panzerfaust, Minette, Mrs. Victoria, Ajna, Marie, Woolie, Hubrecht, Samson, Feng, B. Dahlia, Mariel Cartwright
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If Mama isn't coming back who else can give us Milky from the team?

Don't say Mike Z.
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>>163684632

Dan
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https://twitter.com/Kuroonehalf/status/813029306268061697
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post Mariel
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>>163690520
lmaooo
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>>163661141
>suck my peacock
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>>163690520
Seriously more people played Revelator than Skullgirls? fuck this world
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>>163692220
What's wrong with Revelator?
>>
>>163692220

Look at the alltime peak
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>>163692220
LMAO you fags didnt believe me
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>>163692430
>>163690743
>>163690520
>>163692220

samefag probability: 89%
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>fighting someone obviously new
>I'm being a shitter using my peacock spam combos like always
>stops moving before we finish first round
>taunt him twice before beating him

Doing these things makes me feel better about myself.
>>
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>>163694798
Nice da-ze kyoudai! With this we're sure to encourage new players to improve and grow our player base!
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>>163695989
Hahaha-ze!
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Who the fuck is Ms Fortune
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>>163697270
Nobody.
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>>163697270
A misfortunate 20 year-old feral who dresses like a slut due to her injuries.

Please do not bully
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>>163698134
No bully pls, it's Christmas.
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>>163698483
No it's not, this is Christmas
& Patty
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>>163700628
Out of all the Last Hope members, why does Patty have the most fans?
I'm more of a Hallow guy myself
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>>163701008
Patty is the coolest last hope and Hallow is cool too
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merry christma
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>>163705365
s
>>
Which sg is the christmasiest
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>>163706315
christmas
>>
>>163706315
You sure it's not Easter?
>>
so how do you guys find matches

if i dont own the 2nd encore dlc does that hinder me gameplaywise, as some kind of sf4/sf4ae deal? or is it just a fancy name for the dlc characters pack?
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>>163708053

Its a fancy name for the complete dlc pack

You also get voiced story mode and challenge runs

But the core online game is unchanged

If you want games just hit up with skullheart forums, one of the bigger steam groups or open up a lobby and ask for a few rounds with players from here
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>>163705493
Smartest way to bump the thread all year.
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>>163708820
look at the time stamps between that post and the one before it
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who are the big 5?

SonicFox
DeKillsage
???
???
???
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>>163710030
CloudKing :^)

I don't think there's a big 5, those two are extremely dominant though.
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>>163708173
discords too
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>Parasoul is Guile
>Big Band is Potemkin
Why do stupid people say these things?
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>>163715283
sauce
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https://twitter.com/kinucakes/status/813191828669272064
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>>163263108
>>163263527
>>163264117
>>163265936
>>163266115
>>163266596
>>163267376
>>163268103
>>163274660
>>163356218
>>163445507
>>163475572
>>163564083
>>163684632
YOU ARE NOT WORTHY (((YET)))

YOU CAN CHANGE YOURSELF

I BELIEVE IN YOU ANON
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>>163717665
I don't.
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>>163717665
These two must fuck like rabbits
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>>163717106
Every character Mike Z makes is Potemkin
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>>163717106
big band needs a buster
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so what did you get your favorite SG or Indivisible for Christmas
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>>163717106
Because Big Band has a Hammer Fist esque charge attack so that makes him Pot.
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>>163727384

The D
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>>163717665
I'm kinda glad her husbando is some nice looking guy
>>
>>
>>163717665
I'm happy for her
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>>163730403
good bump
>>
If I liked SG would I like BlazBlue? My wallet is burning a hole in my pocket and ~$10 down from $30 seems enticing.
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>>163727978
Also Slide Head and Heat Knuckle.
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>>163731276
I wish Heat Knuckle gave me the options Beat Extend does.
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>>163731274
BB on Steam? The sale is good, but honestly, I'd say avoid it for now.
Central Fiction will probably be out at some point soon, and once it is, you'll be glad you waited.

If you liked SG just approach BB the same way you approached SG on your first day.
There's a lot to enjoy in both games.
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>>163731472
heat knuckle is clearly the [4]6K command grab and not the dp.
>>
>>163734729
You're tellin' me Heat Extend isn't Beat Extend and it's actually A-Train.
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>>163735508
Nice bump, son.
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>>163735784
>bump

It's /vg/. Thread's just going to get remade again if it dies.
>>
bump for skullgirls is a good fighting game

happy holidays everyone
>>
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>>163738645
can barely hang that on the door since it's so thick
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Will any of you try speedrunning Indivisible when it comes out? Do you think you might try speedrunning the Betas?
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>>163740363
I already did speedrun the prototype, got down to sub-25 Clearest. Not sure if I'll keep running the full game though, if it's as long as most RPG speedruns that's a bit much for me.
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>>163740363
fuck no, I'll watch speedruns but I'm not going to do them again

I'm all up for stylish combos contests if that's gonna be a thing
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>>163740547
Did you win the speedrun contest? I forget what the top time was.

How long are speedruns of games like Valkyrie Profile outside of loading times?
Indivisible will probably be a little faster than that since Mike's putting a lot of emphasis on movement.
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>>163690520
>Revelator's week 1 turnout was 9th place, barely better than Divekick
>SG was 4th at peak hours that day and holds 4th All-time record
>Injustice and MK9 were absent for some reason.

What was the purpose of this list?
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>>163744381
do i smell some... asshurt
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>>163744381
HURRRRRRRRRRR DED GAMS
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Belated.
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>>163744695
Other than her standard outfit, the fencing suit and this dress, would Parasoul have any other attire for her royal duties?
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>>163744381
Millia....

We want milky
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>>163649293
albis is the dog
>>
If you guys have any unwanted copies of Skullgirls on steam, I'll gladly take it
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>>163750343
I'll be even more glad to take it.
>>
I want to play Skullgirls
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>>163751035

Then do it, open up a lobby and post the name here and which region
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https://twitter.com/MikeZSez/status/813253160366010372
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>>163751492
I would play with all of you if you gift me Skullgirls on Steam
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>>163751992

Post steam id then maybe
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>>163752215
http://steamcommunity.com/id/niyel/wishlist

Skullgirls. I want to play
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>>163752482
It's literally three dollars. Why can't you buy it yourself?
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>>163752887
the full game is $10. but yeah I know I'm being garbage. I just thought a generous anon would donate Skullgirls
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>>163753060
Why dont you buy the basegame now and the 2nd encore upgrade later then?
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>>163753472
I have literally no money
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>>163753472
it's a throwaway account
he's probably just going to sell the gift or something
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>>163753835
No it's not. I don't play much on Steam because the few games I have on it aren't that great.

I would play Skullgirls everyday if I had that.
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>>163753950
beep boop meow
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>>163753950

Alright I will bite and buy it for you, but only the base game

Also dont mention my name anywhere in case of spambots

the dlc characters are playable in the beta anyway
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>>163754327
give me Skullgirls right now or I'll kick your ass
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>>163754525
bite please

I want to fight you
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>>163754598

I live in europe so we cant fight, but check the official skullheart forums for daily or weekly gettogethers
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>>163754525
don't bite
he's been begging for SFV using the same account and the same exact "I'll play ___ everyday" in /fgg/
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>>163754743

Hrm, I think youre right, his account isnt online and his 3 friends are all spam accounts

Time to gift my copy of SG to someone I can trust
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>>163741907
WR is 13:33 by havic9

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMFKSgQvKVk
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>>163754869
>>163754743
What? Brandon and Pachirisi are anons.
The other is my little brother irl.

You guys are so damn paranoid. If I wanted to sell games I wouldn't need Skullgirls for that and go to these threads everyday. Jeezus
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>>163755001
also Pachirisi is from /fgg/ and gave me the SFV beta a while ago
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>>163755001
Then why are you offline?

You cant receive gifts if I cant make contact
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>>163755184
I'm online now.
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>>163755296

Alright fine, buy SG and then ill buy the 2nd encore upgrade for you

Hows that for a show of conscience?
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>>163755184
don't trust no activity accounts

also this guy has begged a shit ton in /v/ too
https://boards.fireden.net/_/search/text/niyel/page/1/

he probably has like 30+ copies of skullgirls by now
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>>163755417
This is pathetic.
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>>163755417

And thats why I mafe the offer of the 2nd encore deal

If he seriously cant cough up 3 dollars for a game im not gonna validate his begging behaviour
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>>163755417
Yes, because I would go to such lengths just to sell a very specific game?

There's no way I can possibly just want to PLAY the damn game right?
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>>163755560
No, it's fine. I don't even care anymore. Apparently people who want to sell gifts all "beg" for a specific game that you yourself say doesn't even cost that much. You know how little sense that would make right? But whatever
>>
>>163755560
Alternate guess:

He doesn't have bad intentions, he just doesn't have a way to put money on his Steam account. His only games are free. There's no other reason someone who wants a game so badly couldn't pay three dollars for it.

He's probably underage.
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>>163755721
are you trying to tell people that no one answered your bajillion begging posts for $3 on /v/?
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>>163756009
>bajillion begging posts

I only did that before and during christmas and that's because there might have been a generous anon. And to be fair, some did get free games from those threads.

I just find it silly that's people are thinking my account is fake just because I want to play Skullgirls
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>>163756398

Dude do you even realize what a generous offer im making you? For 3 dollars you can get the whole 2nd encore upgrade for free from me

Or do you just dont have a creditcard? or are underage? If thats the case then just say so instead of making halfbaked attempts of shifting blame
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Hey guys, learning the game (and learning how to use a fightstick)

I'm with the tutorial and for some reason I can't advance here. I do well up until the s.MK, after the c.LK the dummy doesn't seem to be high enough in the air for me to hit her or something, any tips?
>>
>>163756963

Do it faster
look at youtube vids of people doing that turtorial so you can see at which height the attack has to connect
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>>163756876
I'm not blaming anyone, just weirded out how paranoid you guys are. People got free games so I thought maybe I'd get lucky but oh well.

I'll just buy the game myself someday, after all Mariel did work on it. It would be kinda shitty of me to just pirate or beg Mama's game.
>>
>>163757202
nevermind I just got it lol. im so bad.
>>
>>163757212

Oh fuck are you the mama milky spammer? Now I wont gift you the game fuck you
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>>163757313
I'll get Skullgirls someday.
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>>163756963
Try doing it in the corner.
That Cerebella combo is pretty dumb.
You can also dash right after MGR and it will work.
Again this combo is dumb so don't worry about cheating.

>>163757212
>>163757313
hahahahah what a shitshow
I think it's 100% that this guy is underage.
>>
>>163757428

Try to improve your art and then I will gift it to you, especially if you make good porn
>>
>>163757212
>It would be kinda shitty of me to just pirate or beg Mama's game.

Welll sheeeeeeit, it only took you 400 posts of begging for the game on /v/ and here for you to realize that, good for you!
>>
which is the better villain eliza or the trinity?
>>
>>163757948

The trinity has yet to do directly something
>>
>>163758012
thousands of years of fucking up the world via the skullheart doesn't account for anything?
>>
>>163757506
The whole point of the shitty MS doodles was that I can't draw. (And even if I did I can't afford a tablet anyways, I'm drawing those on a shitty laptop touchpad.)

I just want JADF to come and give us the Filia buttjob that the thicc deserves.


>>163757762
I counted the posts I made during christmas.
>>163755417

27. Fuck.
>>
>>163758203

Congratulations son, it's a christmas miracle, I'm gonna gift you the game, because I need that extra 3 dollars for the next steam trading card
>>
>>163758203
>>163758582

I'll have to go to visit the family for a few hours, i will give it to you once im back, accept the friend request in the meantime
>>
>>163758203
You don't need a tablet to learn how to draw. Use Paper and Pencil. 90% of the skills you'll need to do good work with a tablet, can be (and should be in my opinion) learned on paper.

If you don't have a scanner, you probably got a phone that can take pictures of your stuff anyway,
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So I just picked this up and was trying to do combos with a KB but the shit felt clunky as fuck. Do I absolutely need an autism stick to play fluidly or do I just need to git gud?
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>>163759671

Keyboard is arguably closer to a fightstick than a gamepad is, however if you want to keep up with the real pros an autism stick might be required


Also new thread please
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Kai's been running sets today.

twitch tv/ugl_esports
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>>163759671
Never had played a fighting game more than casually before SG. Fairly comfortable playing Squigly/PW/Filia. Just work at it and make sure you don't have any ghosting issues.
>>163759801
Some of the highest pros use pad over stick, keep that in mind.
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>>163758203
I wonder if that tweet about JADF having a tumor is true.
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>>163759671
Here is my keyboard setup. If you're playing solo you can ignore the assist keys on the right. M1 and M2 are my throw and dash macros.
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>>163680585
Gameplay-wise, it's what this Anon said >>163681428 , at least for testing.
Story-wise, it'll probably be a retell with the canon storyline.

Character-wise we'll see who they add in SGMobile,
but the characters they'll need for canon story are Umbrella, Marie, and Dahlia.
>>
>>163759671
Some people swear by keyboard, but not everyone can wrap their head around it. If it's not working for you try something else.

You certainly don't need an expensive stick though, pad is probably a much more familiar choice for most people. Several of the best players including Sonicfox all use pad.
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>>163760009
Does that stop him from drawing? If so I'll really have to learn to draw for real. And if that happens, it's inevitable that I join Lab Zero and become the lead animator, replacing Mama.

>>163759360
Yeah there is a huge part of me that wants to draw well. Skullgirls has always been visually amazing to me, not just because of the fluid animations but the artstyle.

Skullgirls 2 WILL be the most colorful and unique looking fighting game when that comes out.
>>
>>163680585
>would they actually change the game up mechanically?
no, just like a lot of fighting games that don't change it up.
but new content is always an option

>>163681428
>no more LLMMH ground chains
don't all the characters have a chain like that. it's also what i use for squigly, a lot because i can't do anything else
(newbie here pls no bully)
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>>163761950
Some characters have 5 hit LLMMH, some can only do 3 hit LMH.
>>
Any Filia mains here?
>>
HOLY SHIT IM IN LOVE WITH THE TUTORIAL OF THIS GAME

Ive recently started playing fighting games, picked up a fightstick and was terrible at it. While playing the tutorial and repeating once and once again some of the combos (especially those explaining the IPS system) I had lots of fun with the trial and error and now I feel more comfortable using the stick

And the fucking character tutorials are great. Sorry for the blogpost but I had been playing SFV for weeks before this, but playing this tutorial has been my epiphany moment of "wow fighting games can be fun".
>>
>>163760009
While it was true, not all tumors are malicious.
It was just discomfortable due to the pain of pressing against the skull, but it was already operated, so you can just ignore it instead of thinking I'm going to die soon.
>>163758203
I feel like doodling and Filia buttjob sounds like just the thing I'm looking for right now.
Going to stream it, check it out in a moment if you want.
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>>163766296
You're the best.
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>>163766296
>begs for art
>gets it
>begs for game
>gets it
Can anyone stop this madman?
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>>163766954
I didn't get anything for Christmas, maybe this is Mama giving me something for happiness
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>>163766181

The good turtorial is what drove many people to pickup skullgirls since until recently fighting games had shitty turtorials with SG being the exception
>>
New thread please
>>
>>163766181
It's not really good. Walls of text and boring/long as hell.
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>>163772397

You are entitled to your opinion, but your statement is factually and actually wrong
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>>163772525
>if you fail guarding this lengthy mixup 7 times in a row you have to do it all over again
>do this exact (and actually unoptimal) combo five times. if you fail once you have to do it all over again. also it's typed in the least lisible way possible. now here's a wall of text on fuzzy guard
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>>163772729

Oh so you refuse to git gud, I get it now.
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