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fighting gfur general
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Daily reminder that sfv is shit.
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>>163140645
>sfv
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Muscles
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Is Faust a MGTOW?
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>>163140791
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>angel will never smother you with tiddies
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ST, SF4 games?

Fightcade: Pantherpiss
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>>163140812
Forgot your trip, Brick.
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try that on my bowser
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Jack-O's voice is so cute, especially when she plays the keyboard, but I'm shit at her.
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>tfw to intelligent for street fighter
at least i have guilty gear
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>>163140784
Where did we go wrong
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Honestly I think this is very telling for how weak the fighting game scene is. Chris G is one of the best NA fighting game players and he can only muster getting Plat 3 last season for LoL.

http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=NYChrisG123

You might be thinking who cares its a different game but if you look at the history of competitive gamers and see them transition to other games they almost always excel even from things like RTS to FPS.
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>>163141193
sfv
sniffshitters
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>>163141068
>to

No, you'd fit in just fine.
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>>163141329
"who futa here" was the best part of /fgg/ for a while
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whats the best currently active fighting game?

i wanna lose to people until i win some more but sfiv is so dead and sf5 has a terrible rep, looks boring and has no one that appeals to me at all in the cast
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>>163140784
The next image is: Phew, finally took Ono's dick out of my ass. So this is what freedom feels like? I-i feel like Ive been reborn. Anyone want to play some Rev?
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try that on my mario
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Justin is free

FREEEEEE
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>>163141447
KI
MKXL
Smash 4
Brawlhalla
DoA5(console)
Tag 2
Guilty Gear Rev depending on your region
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>>163141268
ChrisG need to play KOFXIV or Revelator to bring in more fans into the FGC.
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Put Birdie in MVCI
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>>163141268
>if you look at the history of competitive gamers and see them transition to other games they almost always excel even from things like RTS to FPS.

Where are all the RTS and FPS players excelling at fighting games?
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Capcom fucks up once again, this company can't do anything right, lol.
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>>163141564
Yea but which one is best

KI I've been having a lot of trouble getting to run since last update. It just freezes after press start most of the time, forever. Other times it loads fast. And when I do get in it often won't let me online.

Its a shame because I like how aggressive it feels.

Brawlhalla felt like ass when I last played it.

MKXL and Tag 2 look good though. I'll check them out thanks.
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>>163141819
>Yea but which one is best
I can't make decisions for you when it comes to your own taste.
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sfv is a good game with faults

people who cry about it all day on r kappa and fgg probably never made it past 1000 points in sf4 and are ecstatic they have an excuse for why they dont play yet still get to discuss ecelebs
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>>163141349
newfag
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>>163141937
suck your mum rudeboy
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>>163141819
Is your store app and xbox app all on the latest update? I think you need the windows 10 anniversary update to play online now too since it was added as real anyplay title.
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I'm really excited to play Akuma and I feel like he'll be my main but the things I've been hearing lately are kind of discouraging. Will he be a good character?
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>>163141769
Nobody has attempted to transition to fighting games because most people aren't interested in them, just look at this scene man its a niche to other games.
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So what games will be at Evo this coming year?

I'm thinking
>SFV
>Melee
>UMvC3 (its final year)
>Revelator
>Tekken 7
>KoF XIV
>Injustice 2
and then two of the three between MKX, KI, and Sm4sh. No way Pokken returns and Revelator is already the token anime game so BB wont be making it
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>>163142063
The question you should ask yourself instead is "Wil it be a good game?"
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>>163142065
No one wants to play a game were they can not blame their team when they lose.
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>>163142105
>>Melee

let it die ffs
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>>163141937
>Has faults
So what's good about the game again? kek
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>>163142105
4 day event FINALLY
add more games pay2advertise
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>>163142105
kof 96
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>>163142105
>two smashes is now a thing
>but anime fighters are "token" status

Fuck this shit, BB and GG might be for goobers but nothing is more goober than Smash 4. Why can't we just do Melee only and tell Zero to get a job.
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>>163142167
That's irrelevant, you asked me why nobody has done well in fighting games and I explained that its not a popular genre, now you're giving me excuses for why people don't play it lmao
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>>163142187
SFV will die before melee does.
S C R E E N C A P
T H I S
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>>163142105
Smash 4 is guaranteed. Also we've had two anime games before it just depends on what games will be most popular going forward (and which companies support Evo)
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>>163142317
Because Sm4sh registrations alone make more money than GG and BB combined.
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>>163142317
>>but anime fighters are "token" status
Reminder that muwell does not count into this arbitary category of 'anime' that is perfect 100% fit for marvel games.
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>>163142278
Just do a week long event desu
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>>163142105
>BB wont be making it
BlazBlue will make it there
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>>163142348
mvc3 outlived sf4
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>mike-ah
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Fuck I hate when smash commentators talk street fighter like it is the holy grail of videogames.
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>>163142608
they aren't wrong though
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>>163141919
;_;

i dunno what my taste is. i mostly played soul calibur but it died. im mainly just waiting on the new tekken since i havent set up my ps3 in like 2-3 years since the tv broke and i didnt see a reason to get a new one when i have a good pc

>>163142054
yah everything is up to date including my windows. i spent ages trying to get it to work right but ive basically given up because the game really aint fun enough to be worth spending even more time on that when i could be spending said time playing other fighters that actually work
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>>163140645
play queen of fighters
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what happened to the double fight money weekends we were promised

and where are s2 patch notes
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>>163142648
I just hope if we ever get another SC is closer to 2 then 4&5.
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>>163142662
I don't have a Neo-Geo Pocket Color
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why are people discussing smash here?

is this the new meme
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when a mika does dash dash dash command grab i immediately alt+f4 SFV

fuck that shit no point in playing anymore
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>>163142794
2 days
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>>163142771
smash is the only legit fighting game these days.
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>>163142794
if you get hit with 3 dashes + a move, it has nothing to do with mika. youre just shit.
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>>163142771
It's the only alive fighting game with a real community.
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>>163142794
it should be 23 hours from now.
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>>163142895
>dieminion is shit

kys when a mika does that and it lands it puts you at 100% tilt
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how am i supposed to do damage as juri without jumping in?
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>>163142738
id like 3 without the save bug.

4 was the one i enjoyed actually fighting in most, but i did miss having stuff to do beyond playing onine/the crappy tower in the older games.
everything felt good and natural in sc and while in most fighters i struggle to find even one char i like and sometimes can't i liked playing basically everyone in sc to some degree

i dont even like tekken much im really just getting it to fill the void. i like maybe 1 character in it.
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>>163142771
Yo is this tournament, or a friendly? Oh cool. Can I hop on this setup? Sick.
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>see clip of table incident linked
>watch it
>just a tabl falling apart
>but those fucking commentators sounjd like they vormit and shit at the same tzime from their mouth and call it speaking
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>>163142967
it has nothing to do with mika. any character can dash 3 times and grab you. youre just blaming mika because youre shit. maybe youre just playing like a little bitch because you have emotional reactions to mika like a homosexual and you get too scared to move.
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>>163143017
Yeah 3 with fixed glitches is perfect. I really hope bamco makes a new sc, a real sc after tekken 7 releases. Don't put that capcom crossover shit before it and give it a real budget.
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If someone buys me a Razer Panthera I'll play a few games of sfv with you
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>>163143114
>it has nothing to do with mika. any character can dash 3 times and grab you

no shit, are you missing my point on purpose what? never said ONLY mika can do it, only that once a mika does that you are so on tilt there is no point in playing further.
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Planning on getting my first fight stick, RAP 4 Kai is a good entry right?
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>After spending millions on esports...
>After risking the viability of SF as a franchise having the worst FG launch of the decade...
>After getting the game on ESPN and the white house...

>SF5 is being beat it by a party mashe and the dombed down sequel...

How capcom can be so retarded and incompetent? how they can fail so hard? when nintendo goes full esport(like the rumors say it would) or Riot launch the LoL FG,Street Fighter is finished in nay way shape or form.
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>>163143217
they won't ;_;

they stripped it of features then of all the chars people love and then wondered why it didnt sell. its pachinko material only now

also didnt like 5 suddenly having meter. part of what made sc so fun to begin with was everyone always having all their tools
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>>163143235


lmao at this goober buying razer you arent allowed to play at tournies unless you own a ryu or chun li te2 just fuck off lmao 4ms delay on panthera lmao? gtab
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>>163143439
Street Fighter V doesn't appeal to as many people
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>>163143439
Fighting games will never not be niche.
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>>163143439
>captura de pantalla
found the mexihopper
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>>163143439
Striped features, too hard for casuals, too simple for pros.

Ultimately most of its issues will be fixed but it will be years from now. Honestly they should scrap season 2 and just make SFVI
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>>163143402
Get a Qanba Obsidian or stick to PS4 pad
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>>163143390
yea and that makes no sense.
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>>163143505
SFV tried to appeal to more people, but ended up appealing to nobody. sad.
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>>163143402


its ok, the buttons arent great, pcb is more laggy than te2+ and it is a little on the lighter but for your first its probably fine
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>>163143439
SFV just isn't fun to watch. As dumb as Smash is you can sit your casual ass down and watch it and be impressed by what you see the players doing. Even the pros in SFV just don't look impressive
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How can I improve my offense in Tekken, or any fighter for that matter?

I can understand punishing, movement, frames, but these lead me to play with a "wait for them to make a mistake" mentality rather than creating opportunities for them to make mistakes, you know what I mean? How do I get good at poking and offense?
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>retard smashers think they're welcome here
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Shadowloo Showdown is no longer a thing? Does australia have any other majors? I want to actually go to a tournament and get out of my home state for once before I turn 30 and die of old age
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>>163143654
It'll mainly be for KOF XIV if that matters
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>>163143516
True but SF4 didnt have the esport investmen SF5 have it was cpable to at worst buster the same view number as melee/smash4.

This is depressing,MVCI is literally thier last chance.
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>>163143778

ozhadou nationals
is rashid the most unga character in the game?
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>>163143870
It's funny, if Capcom called SFV early access none of this garbage would have happened.
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I've been ragequit on 7 times tonight in ranked.

Just give me those points like any other game would. Fuck.
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>>163143778
Time to take a boat to New Zealand
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>>163143892
Rashid can spam but he aint got shit on ken when it comes to unga
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>>163142105
SFV
Melee
Sm4sh
MvCI
Revelator
Infustice 2
KI
Tekken 7(Even if it isn't out yet. Namco will bring out arcade cabs and Mr.Wizard will once again ignore that EVO is supposed to be strictly a console tourney and DoA5FR will NEVER GET A FUCKING CHANCE HOLY SHIT)
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>>163143770
But our game is more technical, and has a higher skill ceiling then you low IQ game.
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>>163143982
Infinite wont be out until the fall
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>>163144051
Is that why everybody good at it has never had a job except one (1) guy
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>>163143439
the game is boring to watch. it always just seems to be ''pros'' failing to tech throws over and over again since throws must be godlike in it or something

>>163143576
i dont understand why they even did seasons

it worked for ki because its a FTP game and even then Ki is a pretty dead game barely anyone knows exists
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>>163143870
Not a CPT event and barely any interesting players there. Stop tripping.
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I wish Akiha was my gf...
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>>163141453
goobers lmaooooooooo
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did they change kens b mp in s2? lmao this move is retarded
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>>163144126
Was that supposed to be an argument? Also that's incorrect.
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>>163143982
where is goober?
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>>163144305
bring back MDEPWP

what was adult swim thinking canceling that masterpiece of a show?
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I've got nothing to do till s2, help me lads
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>>163143765
By playing against people and seeing what works then doing it until they do something that beats what you did and thinking of what would have beaten it
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can you even use sticks using the steam link(tm) shit or are pc players cucked yet again
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FRAUD CONFIRMED
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LAND OF THE FREEEEEEEEE
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KNUCKLEFREE KEK
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>>163144305
I said Revelator
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>>163140645
>Du doesn't pick Mika
>loses to a match he's wildly favored in
Good, dudes going to be exposed so fucking hard season 2.
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>>163144420
mde is fucking trash

if i wanted an ironic meme sense of humour i'd rather kill myself
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>>163144587
sorry sir
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>>163143765
you go in, create a situation, observe their reactions, and use it as information. watch knee play hwoarang. he doesn't go in much, but notice what he does when he forces situations. he doesn't look for launches or any extended pressure sequences a lot of the time, he just wants to know how the opponent is blocking and moving in response to certain strings, stances, or positions (all come together as a "situation") and goes to back to neutral where he is comfortable.

you want to know what the opponent expects from you in specific situations and figure out patterns and habits on a more general level at the same time. when you dash in, do they poke? what with: jabs, down jabs, df+1, d+4? did they use a ch launcher? regular launcher? what's their habit in a +1 to -1 frame situation?

you can play defensive in neutral and apply it to your offense. that's just being a patient player. getting good at poking is getting good at conditioning and instilling fear, which is not that easy given how strong turtling is in tekken.

you also can't be discouraged when you get launched or severely punished for trying to get information: that's the risk you're taking. but if you keep your offense compact and effective in a general sense (safe in terms of frames, not a lot of holes, gives you concrete pieces of info for little perceived risk), then it will pay off.
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Watching Mena has taught me that I need to play more aggressively and take WAAAAY more risks.
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>>163144661
>Teabags one round
>gets bodied the next
Good, fuck that guy
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>>163144618
lol. libcuck detected
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how do i do damage in neutral as juri? what buttons can be converted into damage? i feel like i cant do shit except for light confirms on this character
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>>163143027
Jims SMFH
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I realize most of you don't actually play fighting games, but to those that do.

Any advice for the Urien matchup in SFV? I main alex and can't punish 95% of what he does and he has some good footsie tools so it's tough to just bully him.
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>>163144807
jump a lot, most uriens dont anti air
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>>163144501
>>163144635
thanks bros
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Akuma out in 15-30 hours and capcom haven't confirmed what is even coming in the patch yet. Good shit.
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>>163143439
Nigga, you act like NEC is all that important now. Stay mad that your 2nd biggest major or the Smash only major doesn't beat Capcom Cup.
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w-what do you mean nuckledu is just a fraud and won a free capcom cup because sfv is fucking random lottery... w-who are these people no one has ever heard of in grand finals... sfv is a good game guys... right.........?
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>>163145010
You new or something? 90% of the time you don't find out until the day of and usual thats people doing the work. Jap companies wait until the day after a ton of the time.
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Is Elphelt still good?
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>>163145096
yes
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You guys think Capcom will put UMvC3 back into Capcom Cup for next year?
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I don't understand why smash is more popular than guilty gear
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Any recommendations for a PS4 headset? Price isn't an issue, but I'm also technologically-handicapped so won't be using it for more than wanting sound while playing games at 3AM.
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tfw you find out you haven't been playing your character right at all
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>>163145197
League of legends is more popular than any of those. Food for thought
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>>163145134
fuck no

>>163145197
Because the smash community are full of white suburban kids who grew up with the gamecube.
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Having some trouble with Slayer's okimeme
How am I supposed to do dandy > under pressure? It feels like I either do it too fast and it's late whiffs or too late and I get thrown before under pressure comes out
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>>163144581
>Black Snake Moan

this commentary is ass. Raw Ass.
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>>163145197
Smash is a game people can relate to. Most people have played it very poorly with some friends or against comps.

To play a game like GG or SF or whatever the only way to play it is in a fairly high stress 1v1 situation. People are less likely to give that a shot.

People are less likely to watch shit they don't play.
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>>163145197

Cause everyone knows who nintendo is and half the cast are household names. What are you, retarded?
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>>163145302
You thought you weren't ass? Lol.
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>>163145318
This, the player number kids should fuck off to /lolg/ if they really care about shit like that.
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>>163145409
But why would normies bother to play smash?
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>>163145372
Maika?
Raiyu?
Birdie.
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>>163145197
You aren't going to get an unbiased answer in this thread.
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>>163145197
>you can play as your favorite video game characters from your childhood
vs
>you can play as a dude strapped to a bed or a little girl with annoying high pitched voice
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>>163145468

Do you want him to just repeat his answer or do you have any other stupid questions?
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>>163144581
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>>163145468
>thinking any of the faggots watching actually play Smash
I'd wager the people who play vs those who only watch is the absolutely huge in favor of people who just watch. Its why Smash has the same however many pros every tourney and almost zero new people each one.
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>>163145318
Its also a better game with far more characters, depth and variety in ways you can play each char

On top of being free instead of being a full price retail game that think its okay to half-ass it like a FTP with seasons then do DLC on top and wonders why barely anyone plays it
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>>163145197
Because Smash is more hype than Guilty Gear.
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>>163145197

Alright so let's forget all the things smash has going for to make it popular.

Guilty Gear:

-Convuluted gameplay
-Convuluted anime character designs
-Shit metal soundtrack
-Did I mention it's extremely anime?

It is forever niche.
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>>163145037
Genesis is coming up and it might out do Capcom Cup without a 230k pot
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>>163145754
Guilty gear characters have PERSONALITY. Nintendo characters are BLAND and FOR KIDS.
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>>163145197
GG is CLOUDDEAD
Melee is Kanye west
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Leaving SF4 was a mistake
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>>163145832
lmao
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>>163144161
SF4 didnt need CPT to surpass or even compete with smash,the cominuty is shrinking.
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>>163145870
Leaving SF3 was a mistake
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>>163145832
>Falseflagging this hard
Your game is bigger failure then the dreamcast capcuck.
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>>163145832
And cartoons are only for kids too right?
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>>163145892
All american majors had shit view counts in 4 as well. Always been this way.
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>>163145754
Bringing up OST when Smash seems to be on the animal crossing stage playing KK Slider 90% of the time? That takes some seriously shit taste in music.
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>>163145037
>SF need a literal wordl tourmanent to even compete with smash...

PATHETIC
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>>163145349
I don't play slayer but I'd just look at match vids, his knockdowns are 2D, JD, throw, corner pilebunker, and low airthrow I guess? P/K step are slightly different too I think. Different people have different wakeup timings, and different when face up vs face down
https://keeponrock.in/?char1=sly
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>>163145832
i love esphalt's personality shes quirky and funny and not just an anime stereotype

when i die imma reincarnated as her husbando then we'll move to japan and theyll love me because i love their culture and their overly similar cartoons where its somehow funny and not creepy for a grown ass woman to randomly grope her friends in an overtly sexual way, their disgusting salty food and how everyone is so fucking tiny and they all have the same names, black hair, black eyes theyre the same person
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>>163145991

>B-but capcom

Pathetic.
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>It's another Yipes commentary
Where the fuck is Chen and David?
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>>163145292
If you're using a DS4, you can literally just connect a standard 3.5mm / 1/8 inch headphone jack into the controller and then set all the audio to come out through the controller via the sound options via the PS button.
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>>163145706
umm lmao
go play your game targeted at downies
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>>163145870
I'll forever be mad for what they did to what should have been an absolute fucking slam dunk of a game. SF was gaining ground as a whole. Pro tour were actuallly pulling people in, new game coming out that could have eased new people in while retaining the growing fanbase. All the fucking had to do was ship a retail product with full features and a solid content schedule. Even if SFV is balls to play currently(signs point to it being better in 24 hours) it absolutely could have pulled a SF4 and built upon itself to make a fantastic game.

They had every chance to knock it out of the park, one platform for all future update, good character selection for new and old, fairly slick looking game(lol ken) and on a platform(s) that have a huge install-base.

Fucking insanity
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>>163146140
>Not liking Yipes commentary

What are you, a table?
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This NEC stream reminds me of old school, pre-esports FGC
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I like KOFXIV.
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>>163146135
Y-yes ono san. G-give it to me. OHHHHHHHHHHH. I'll be your #paypig. Dominate my bank account.
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>>163146065

>Smash not big enough to have a real diverse world tourney
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>>163146204
>Yipes just screamed into the mike like he's having a bad orgasm
If my grandmother had wheels. She would have been a bike.
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I honestly don't know why do people that would see themselves as smart and knowledge fighting game players would hail sf5 as a good, skill intensive game within it's own merit? Pro players and their circlejerk/orbiters I understand why they shill, but individuals ITT and on the internet?

What the fuck is wrong with people like is this their first fighting game and want to emotionally invest on it so they validate their choice with stubbornness? I wish I could individually tell every smug retard that unmemetically says that sf5 is the best game to kys face to face
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>it's almost 2017
>still no full keyboard support for PC version of SFV
why didn't I refund it immediately?
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>>163146491
lmao
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>>163146449
>Implying Chen wouldn't be shouting into the mic either.

You want silent commentary? Go watch chess.
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>>163146448
>I don't know shit about smash, the post.
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gimme the lewds right now fgg
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>>163146448
>Implying SF isnt artificially inflated wiht esports money.

>A grass root community still beat it.
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>>163146491
is this the new pasta
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>>163146182
Okay

You pay your game targeted at retards with no standards
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Are we shitposting about Smash 4 or Melee right now?
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>>163146542
You post first.
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>>163146650

Looks like SFV, mostly.
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>>163146650
Why would we care about what those autistic losers are doing?
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>>163146581

Beat it how?
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>>163146542
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>>163146542
I think you meant to click /e/ or /h/.
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Will smashbabbies ever outgrow their inferiority complex?
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>>163146191
This,when nintendo goes full esports with smash 4 and riot laung their FG,SF is dead.
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>>163146542
This is a lewd free thread.
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>>163146741
>More views on twich.
>Larger community.
>Better game and reatil prodcut overall.

The only thing smash commnunity is lacking is prizepools,literally,when nintendo solve that issue SF is finished.
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>Brick beats me in cummy blasters 10-0
>Haven't played since
>Want to learn knew character
>Not Motivated
I'm depressed.
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>>163146845
You are a fucking retard if you think SFV is dying anytime soon.
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need a cummy blasterz discord
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>>163146929
>5 years later luvcheez is still posting on /fgg/, being shit, using the same dumb old memes, and posting the same shit
?
???????????????????????
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>>163146989
The current situation isnt sustainable,and even you knew it,no mattr what capcom said,they are gonna to drop support of the game in the moment isnt profitable anymore unless somehow they can attract new people/
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>>163146946

Lel your community almost never beat SF entrant numbers and doesn't beat SF tourney when it isn't being shown on fucking ESPN.
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>>163147172
And then they will work on SFVI, SF isn't going anywhere.
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>>163147136

I somehow don't think it's him.

Luvcheeze actually plays game and makes conversation, not JUST memes.
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>>163146946
Too bad you can't fix how terrible the community is.
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>>163147136
easily the worst /fgg/ poster
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>>163146078
Appreciate the thought buddy but you didn't tell me anything I didn't know already
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Dangerous levels of smugness in this Grand Finals
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>>163147136
crossedupsperglord.jpg
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The fact that they are bothering to work on a new marvel shows they haven't been harmed by the poor launch of SFV as much as we thought. Is esports that profitable a business.
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>>163147346
>makes conversation
>Hurr big tits are so great durr Morrigan mai waifu
Don't defend that fat fuck.
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>>163147585
Or maybe the more realistic option is Marvel knows they can squeeze money from people for using properties in all media formats. You dumb fuck.
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>>163147262

Im lying to defend my game the post.

Also...

>"when it isn't being shown on fucking ESPN"
>Being proud of this game being shown on an dying network in so desesperate state that boradcast esports.
>Even having all that marketing smash still the more popular esport.
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>>163147605
The joke is that Morrigan has only a 86cm bust.
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>>163147585
Capcom has over a billion dollars in assets. Along with Sony and Marvel money capcom really isn't taking a hit
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>>163147585
Or maybe they need marvel beacuse SF is a sinking ship.
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>>163147648
Have games been a proven ground for them, though?
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>>163143982
sighs
why not doa?
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>>163147760
MVC3 sold a pretty damn good amount and that was when Marvel movies weren't all shitting out millions upon millions.
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>>163147760

20 years of comic book video games says yes.
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>>163147597
hot
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Ok i'm fucking sick and tired of this Guilty Gear plebs. Fuck off with your gay ass anime shit. Nobody cares about your gorrilla mash, air dash, turn based combat game. SFV is going to save fighting games just like SF4 did. What have you cancerous animefags every done for the community? That's right, fucking nothing. You are a leech of the FGC. Just like you leech off of your parents. All of your games are just VSAV ripoffs. The next time you cry about capcom making bad decisions, just remember that capcom MADE fighting games. Now fuck off to >>>/jp/ weebs.
>>163146491
FUCK OFF GOOBER. KYS NOW, I COMMAND YOU.
>>163146839
No. They are all smelly manchildren who can't be bothered to learn a real fighting game. Everytime I hear someone refer to smash a fighting game unironically I want to strangle them.
>>163146946
Wow a retarded party game is able to draw the attention of all the autists on the planet.
>>163147585
>Capeshit is at its biggest peak ever
>Wahh why is capcom making another game to appeal to an exploding demographic
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>>163147758
Just like how they needed MvC3 less than a year after SF4 because of how much of a sinking ship that was?

Remember how badly they needed X Tekken because of how badly AE sank?
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>>163147878
umm autism lol
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>>163147878
Guilty Gear doesn't play like VSAV.
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>>163145197
someone post the image of thousands of smash babies bullying goobers
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>>163147878
>What have you cancerous animefags every done for the community?
Made it look bad by getting bullied by smashers?
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>>163147346
I play a lot of games, but very few people if any still play them here. I used to asks nights to play me in doa but he stopped wanting to play eventually.
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>>163147878
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>>163147758

Why would try "need" Marvel? They never really "needed" SF, they make way more money with their other IP's. It's much more likely they find esports a profitable enough venture to expand cpt with another game.
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Which one of you did this?
https://aryion.com/g4/view/373665
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>>163147878
UMEHARA GA
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What the fuck does it matter of your game is bigger than a other one? Jesus fuck.
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>>163140645
>try out Galaxy Fight
>pick big ass lizard man Gunter because he looks cool and I want to git gud with grapplers
>hop on arcade mode because game is dead as hell on fightcade
>get off a few hours later with an intense urge to shoot up a school

I have never been this fucking mad in years.
I never thought there would actually be a game with a worse arcade mode than UMK3.
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>>163147878
GOOBERS BTFO!!!1! YOU SURE SHOWED THEM! HI FIVE!
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>>163147878
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>>163145767
lmao

Genesis lost to Capcom Cup 2015. At the time, smash kids said "Capcom 2015 doesn't count. Genesis is in 2016." Now Capcom Cup 2016 beat Genesis 2016 and now the excuse is, Genesis 2017 will beat Capcom Cup 2016.

Fuck out of here. You niggas certainly have a shit load of tournaments with a lot of players and viewers in 40-60k range, but SF is still the king with views at its peak.

Thank god those Asians are a huge potential community which leaves room for all fighting games (minus Smash) to grow. That's something I enjoy. Seeing how international SF, and KOF are.
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>>163148401
I want to protect his smile
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>>163147878
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>>163147674
What were Melee's biggest viewership this year? Go ahead and list the numbers. SFV will shit on Melee.
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>>163148401
>Iron Maiden shirt in 2016
Basic-ass bitch.
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>>163148357
Insecure children who can't find any value in their own self so they latch on to something larger than their own existence in order to feel a sense of importance.
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I wish the young kid from the domincan republic won
:_;
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>>163148491
then buy+play gooby bloo
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>>163148106
I bet she stinks.
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>>163148583
he's as old as the band, don't bully
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>>163148702
Jeez that's so late in the day.
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>>163148821
Could at least wear Death Grips
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>>163148810
She smells very nice actually, Millia is a classy lady who also wears perfume all the time (Johnny's Treasure hunt on Millia gives him bottles of perfume)
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>>163141453
leave it to a goober to make it as gay as possible
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How do I play her?
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How do I get SFV PC to detect two players for local versus
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>>163149348
Studying how other people play her and gradually getting better maybe.
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>>163147790
Because only one 3d fighter and Tekken will always take it.
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so its literally been several months since i played sfv since i get the 22004 update error and can't do anything about it

why
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>>163149721

If you don't understand what you're watching mechanically, it's a waste of time, which I'm sure you know. Why do people do this kind of responding?
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>>163149348
Go to mission mode to learn her gimmicks then play some matches once you feel comfortable
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>>163149807
how else would you learn retard, if you cant even improve by watching others then you should just give up
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>>163149348
put down houses, protect them, win once you get lv3 goons
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>>163149886

lol
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>>163145349
dandy > shit or teleport high low
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>>163147878
>guilty gear
>anime

Did you happen to miss all the metal references?
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Rikuo for MvC infinite!
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>>163149348
3h 22p 3h 22s 3h 22k
2d when youre knocked down
22h 22k 22s to win neutral
kill yourself at the end
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what did he mean by this
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Why is it only 2D fighters ever have banned stages?
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>>163150273
pokken tournaments ban every stage except for the stadium stage for some reason.
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>>163150314
really?

I know the stages are different but I never knew that
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>>163150147
REMOVE FISH
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>>163150273
Are there really no banned stages in any Tekken or Soul Calibur?
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>>163146182
chrisg thinks league is more difficult and harder to be good at than fighting games tho, I disagree but just food for thought, not as easy as you think it is
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>>163150443
I've never heard of a single stage being banned in either series. In Tekken tournaments, almost everyone chooses random stage select. Even in 2D fighters without banned stages, tournament players constantly pick training stages and such.
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>>163150273

What 2D fighter has banned a stage?

Banning stuff like vanilla SF4 volcano because some people literally cannot see doesn't count.
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>>163150219
O_O
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>>163150732
kanzuki beach
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>>163150562
lol takes close to no mechanical skill, it's all game knowledge and strategy and teamwork. even sf5 is way harder to play than a moba.
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>>163150857
ok whats your point tho, mechanical skill isnt what makes fighting games hard either even if they take more than mobas, dont tell me youre a trainingboar
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>>163150921

Not him, but good footsies are the best part of fighting games and require an immense amount of mechanical skill. Timing at specific spacing.
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>>163150732
fetus of god in darkstalkers
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>>163151079
concepts of spacing are not exclusive to fighting games, even if they are more nuanced in fighting games
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>>163151112
why's that banned anyways? framedrops? the stage length?
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>>163150219
>Sonic Fox is a top competitor in vidya AND gets layed
>Zero is a fat, top competitor in SMASH AND gets layed
What's your excuse, fgg/
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DOnetV33moE

so... just got SFV a couple days ago

anyone have similar beginner / breakdown videos you'd recommend to a scrub?

I'm the type of fighter who tries to learn basic-to-intermediate play for all the characters in the roster
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>>163151193
It's wider than all the other stages.
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>>163151193
Its bigger than all the other stages
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>>163151112
But why? It's so beautiful.
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>>163151242
i like the music too, it can't be helped i guess
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>>163151132

They are what make it hard and they're not training mode warrior shit either.
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How hard is King of Fighters to get into for someone who has never played it before? I was looking at it last time I was out shopping and it looks fun. Lots of interesting characters
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>>163151461
Its easier than you would think but its different

the big thing people people always bring up is the having to learn three character thing, but characters are relatively simple so it doesn't take much time
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>>163151394
footsies are more mind based than mechanical
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>>163151203
gay furries have no standards
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none of the current characters in "alive" fighting games interest me


what do i do until they add one? just stop playing?
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>>163151613
Footsie mindset.
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>>163152090
Go play a "dead" game and try to find a community for it.
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>>163152090
you probably suck anyway

all you need is tools to answer questions, its a bonus if those tools are qt browns
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>>163152076
>Standards
>Just trying to bust a nut
?
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>Don't Park On The Grass

What kind of major name is this?
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>>163152323
its a meme
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>>163151242
lag
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>>163152306
You don't need another person for that
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>>163148157
Least something good came from LTG
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>>163152323
they all have weird names from what I've seen

I don't know why they do it
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lmoa
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>>163151215
Is this how I get out of bronze?
>>
ded
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>>163152664
sad!
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>>163153959
ded genre ded thred
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>>163152664
it took me awhile to notice him in the corner
tfw you wanna play ultra but never bought the upgrade and never see it on sale
>>
will laura be as cancerous as mika
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>>163154202

Why would she be?
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>>163154202
probably worse.

I've seen some combos from her that are around 95% damage to (1000hp) from 2 bars, 1 reset and a VT cancel
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>>163154246
because she's getting lots of buffs and she's already annoying
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>>163154303

That didn't answer my question.
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>>163154289
those have been there since launch though
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SF4 has

>instant matchmaking
>instant loadings
>great OST
>consistent visuals with an actual art direction

So many good things in SF4 were removed for SFV for no reason but laziness.
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>>163154326
most people don't know what buffs laura got but they see people almost killing with vtrigger and two resets and think something crazy has happened
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>>163155034

and a big cast with multiple interesting characters.

Fuck can we just start over and get going on SFVI right now. They could release a great game by 2019.
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>>163155034
I think it's time to move on anon.
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>>163155182
SF4 took years to be a good game, why people expect SFV to be good in the first is beyond me.
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>>163155209
It's not. The SF4 revival is happening
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>>163155034
please do not remind me of how cute ibuki used to be it hurts
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>>163155393
LMAO
>>
>tfw browsing g2a for upgrade keys
kms
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>>163155340
Because this isn't 2008 anymore. The industry has moved forwards greatly. Capcom can't pretend this is the 90's where they make multiple revisions and hoping something will stick. They have to get it right at the first try. Everyone else is. Why can't they?

The whole "SF4 vanilla was also bad" is the laziest excuse for SFV ever because SF4 vanilla was 8 fucking years ago and of course people expect progress to have happened. It's not like this type of lazy deflection is used for any other game.
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>>163155034
>he seriousely thinks that SFIV looks better than SFV

SFV does have some rough edges but come on.
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>>163155393
By who? You? It's like 2009 all over again.
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>>163155634
Everyone else isn't and its absolutely a genre where time can be taken. Its why we have iterations of the same series almost annually. SFV goes beyond this system and has one platform, if anything it can bounce back harder than most fighting games because people who bought it this year can still play it next without throwing down more money.

It took SF4 about 6 years to be a decent game. Until then it was in the same situation SFV is, except without the tournament scene or popularity of twitch.

Season 2 is literally tomorrow, people will be playing again.
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>>163155810
>It took SF4 about 6 years to be a decent game.

lol???? how fucking stupid are you

super came out a year after vanilla
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>>163155810
>Until then it was in the same situation SFV is
Not at all. SF4 was everything SFV isn't.
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>>163155810
>It took SF4 about 6 years to be a decent game.
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>>163155846
Super was just as rough as SFV is right now, nostalgia fags need to fuck off.
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>>163155846
2 years
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>>163140645
The fun part is you can tell who the 09'rs are based off of how hard they rally against SFV, would have loved to have seen you crybabies when SF4 was released and 3rd strike died off.
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>>163155947
>Super was just as rough as SFV is right now,
Uh, no.
>>
Chances are if you're complaining about vanilla SF4 or AE, then you're a 16er.
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>>163156053
third strike was never alive
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>>163156243
Yes it is, 3S is the most popular Street Fighter game in Japan even now
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>>163156243
It had enough going for it at the end. Which its ridiculous that people say SFV is dying when fighting games in general have never been more popular. My point was more directed at people who clearly haven't experienced a transition between numbered series.
>waaaah why isn't it the same as a game thats been iterated upon a half dozen times over several years!!!!
so on so forth.
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>>163156297
sure it is
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>>163156337
>waah why do people expect things to improve with time
With that attitude, why even release and play SFV vanilla when you make it a rule that it's going to be shit?
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>>163156427
Fuck if I know, ask the people crying over it. Shit is going to take time.
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>>163156550
Who does Capcom need seven iterations of the same game to get it right when ASW and SNK get it right on the first try?
>>
Tbh if SFV came out with out the problems it had there would be some other shit found really fast to complain about

fighting games get figured out pretty quick now
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>>163156596
They don't and your bias is showing.
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>>163156596
I like ASW but Calamity Trigger is about the furthest from getting it right you can get.
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>>163156596
didnt kof have a grafics patch recently?
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>>163156596
Because capcom clearly rushed SFV and the others didn't. Now it's a slow process to improve SFV, it's been 10 months but we are seeing improvement.
>>
So tell me about Melee (or Smash in general)

If you guys believe it isn't a fighting game, why was it ever considered one in the first place. Why would it ever be considered to be voted to be put at evo
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>>163156812
who cares mario kart was at evo

smash not being a part of the fgc is better for them in every way.
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SFV December 20th Server Maintenance

GMT 5:00pm - 1:00am
CST 18:00 - 02:00
EST 12:00pm - 8:00pm
PST 9:00am - 5:00pm

http://game.capcom.com/cfn/sfv/systemfault/131280
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>>163156812
No health bar, and no motions.
>Inb4 But muh Raiii-yeewww.
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>>163156812
This is Fighting Game General, take your party game back to the nintoddler general
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>>163156928
>8 hour maintenance
JEEZUS
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>>163156812
EVO isn't about fighting games, it's about making money based on the publishers who can pay the most. Smash makes less sense as a fighting game than Dark Souls PvP or even Overwatch 3v3.
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>>163156757
More of a lighting patch
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>>163156898
>>163156929
>>163156932
Literally didn't even answer the question

Are you really fighting game players, or troglodyte shitposters?
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>>163156793

Worth noting that this is becoming more and more standard for vidya these days; they know they can go back and fix things if they're broken, so there's probably a lot more pressure from the suits to just get the damn thing released and start collecting money than there used to be.

Might also be a marketing aspect to it too, that they expect conversations like this to spring up in dedicated communities and having more changes more often gives that community more discussion to burn through, creating an effective hook to keep the community on the line.
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>>163156994
That's standard for SFV. Their server is shit. They went the cheap Korean route and the cheap Korean shit is what they got.
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>>163156928
So much for playing in the evening. Probably gets extended into the 21st as well.
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DoA6 when?
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>>163157038
They changed some effects too.
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>>163157093
They ultimately can turn shit around if they put in the work. I have a few friends who would start playing in a heartbeat if they fixed a handful of the games glaring issues, considering they don't need to buy Arcade edition, super, or ultra the barrier for re-entry is the lowest its ever been and thats not something that should be disregarded.

I'm not incredibly optimistic about Season 2, but I've seen a lot of changes I think will make the game better to play. If they added an Arcade mode and a few training suites for normies to get into the game I'd bet they'd up the player pool an amount. Smart thing they could do would be to let it be a games with gold/ps+ game for a month to get people on the hook.
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>>163156812

https://youtu.be/HIeB8vLx-6M?t=113
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>>163157093
>Worth noting that this is becoming more and more standard for vidya these days
Maybe five years ago. Today? Publishers don't have the balls to release unfinished buggy games anymore. The past year has actually been alright in terms of games that are playable on launch. EA, Activision and Ubishit all learned their lessons and stopped rushing their shit.

What Capcom did with SFV was a fuck-up on all fronts, even when compared to other modern AAA games riddled with bugs.
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>>163156812
smash babbs exploited by tos for sweet autism bucks
>>
dudley in sfv when?
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>>163157437

You've got Boxer, just take it easy.
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>>163151203
I'm not black teenager
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>>163157330
Why is Aris so perfect? Is he our guy?
>>
Is SFV a fighting game or a Smash-like?
>>
is sonicfox gay furry
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>>163157706
Clearly smash like.
It has Ryu in it after all.
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Revelator PC player numbers have finally had a dip to lower than 500, and it's sinking. Still ahead of SF4's recent peaks, but not by much.

Seeing as how Rev didn't even hit Sign's peak on launch week, this might be the start of the doom curve.
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I wish someone would create a fighting game with mmo-like features and pve

Basically xenoverse but not fucking dead and no content support
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>>163157773
Yes
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>>163157330
Aris is the definition of a based lad.
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>>163157819
Maybe Injustice 2?
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>>163157817
PCucks don't care about fighting games more obscure than SF, and Rev is too pricy.
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>>163157817
Its fucked. Sign sold like seven times more.
I doubt that this will be able to catch up even with sales.

Even a 50% sale would make it cost as much as launch Sign.
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>>163157819

considering there are no fighting games with good ai battles good luck.
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>>163157817
Far too expensive, if that shit was 20 bucks it would see players. You can't have a high learning curve/execution barrier and expect people to shell out 60 bucks on the yearly. That shit just don't fly anymore. Not saying I want it dumbed down to tard levels, but somethings got to give. No way in shit does it cost enough in dev time to warrent the full price tag.
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>>163157817
They fucked up by not making a first week sale at 50% or better
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>>163158072

Seriously why did they fuck themselves over? Launch week sign deal was a good price for impulse buys. Even anime lovers don't wanna buy revelator at it's current price.
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>>163157865
I mean I like the idea but it's NRS so you know it's going to play like shit

Imagine like a shenmue mmo, you roam around doing quests and shit and then for combat it transitions into an approximation of tekken gameplay, that shit would be mad hype. You could have a good pvp scene if the game was well designed, and also group fights vs ridiculous boss characters.
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>>163158098
Game was ported by one dude over half a year.
So even if he worked overtime like 1-2k sales at 30$ wouldve covered the costs.
But it looks like ASW would rather sell 10k copies at 60 than 80k copies at 30.


>>163158201
I dont know what their idea was.
It feels like self sabotage because I dont think anybody could be this dumb.
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>>163157817
It might be possible that Revelator's PC numbers will end up having a weekend to weekend rise and fall like MKXL's, but that hasn't been the case for any ASW games before.
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>>163158179
>>163158201
Fucking ASW man. Always the same shit with them. They have to fuck up somewhere. Whether it's the English title, the pricing or DLC; they always have to fuck up somewhere basic and easy while already doing the heavy lifting.

These poor fucks need new management. The devs deserve better. Fucking everyone knew it was a bad idea launching for $50. Everyone warned ASW that it would fail hard. But dumb nippon businessman doesn't care.
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who should I main in season 2
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>>163158072
Release timing is part of it too I think. Rev was $20 on PSN the week before release and Amazon had the same deal the week of launch. If you had both a gaming PC and PS4 its just way cheaper to get the PS4 version even if you factor in Sony making you pay for online.

ASW keeps doing this shit with their PC releases though. They could easily port it over in a far shorter time but its obviously not their priority.
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>>163158278
>Game was ported by one dude over half a year.

Source?
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hey guys
i'll play rev on steam
if you buy it for me
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>>163158337
Whoever you want

I haven't looked at all the characters changes but my boy urien looks ridiculous
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>>163158454
Them buffing Urien is crazy to me, he was already a top contender. We're going to see tons of him now.
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>>163158207

Designing a lock-on system that makes you and your target act like Tekken camera would be amazing. Each player could lock on to the same boss and get their own 2d slice of Tekken camera.

Camera could make any environment that gets in the way invisible etc.
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I guess I'll try Akuma for a bit and that's it.
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>>163156812
I think the biggest thing is that the Smash community isn't part of the fighting game community. They're completely separate.

That's not even limited to the US. In Japan it's completely separate too. You have players like Nemo who plays Guilty Gear, KOF, SF, and Marvel. You have Kyabetsu playing KOF and SF. You have Fuudo playing VF, Gunslinger Stratos, and SF.

Smash? Nope. They have their own offline gathering. None of those players play other fighting games, and fighting game players who play multiple games don't touch Smash.

I say that's the biggest factor in this debate.
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>>163158491
Urien isn't that good in season 1, B- tier at least compared to chun/karin/ryu/etc, he relies so much on aegis gimmicks to scrub out the W and if you get a guy who really knows the matchup and can block it you're at a severe disadvantage
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>>163158657
and where does it put him if all of those top characters get nerfs? He has the same problem a ton of characters have for the next 24 hours, the top 5 or so are generally pretty far ahead of everyone. With the changes coming he will skyrocket to the top 5 easy. He was easily top 8 season 1. People didn't use him because he was newer.
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>>163156297
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I don't mind those buffs if that means we'll see more Urien, Laura and Rashid. They are some of the most fun characters in the game.
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>>163158870
They are shit, look like shit and you should feel like shit for liking such shitty characters
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The most interesting about the SF fanbase is that they don't have a clear idea what SF is.

Some people want fun tech and combos, other want better neutral and footsie. Same for every aspect of the game.
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>>163141268
>Team games
If you play any role that isnt carry in that game you can just fuck off because you're pretty much at the mercy of your carries to get anything done
t.support/tank player
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>boot up sfiv
>remember guile has no fun tools

He's funer to play in sfv.
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>>163158998
The sameme for every gaming community thats been around that long
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>>163158870
I will agree with that statement if Urien got better anti airs and frame buffs.
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>>163158998
They should just make an SF game with only V-ism
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>>163158912
calm down goober
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Is there a No-dlc version of Revelator on PC anywhere? I only want one character.
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>>163159057
>Muh meme booms
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>>163158998

ST->Alphas->3s->IV->V are all completely different styles of fighting games.

V is kind of the odd one out though because the games were generally adding depth as they went on.
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>>163158998
Thats because SF actually changes much more than any other series from game to game and people have different preferences.

Then you have characters like Guile and Yun in the same game.

Its not surprising at all that there are different camps.
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>>163159264
>3s
>deeper than Alpha3
>any SF game deeper than alpha 3
Alpha has the most amount of shit crammed into it.
It almost feels like a vs game.
Doesnt mean that its good, but its definitely the deepest one.
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>>163158998
If you want fun tech and combos there are far better series for it.
Neutral and footsies has always been what SF was best at which baffles me why they seem to try to distance themselves from it every second game.
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>>163159195
GUILTY GEAR Xrd -REVELATOR-
But that. The deluxe edition inlcudes all dlc.
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>>163159387

Yeah I said generally because Alpha series got crazy. Alpha 3 was released in between 2i and 3s.
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>>163158612
Except if you look at tourney entry numbers then smash 4 has the same overlap to other games as sfv.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ndRKctkKi0
Smash 4 now has a year long circuit with $100,000 pot bonus. All without killing off the older beloved game or slaughtering your own guts to a publisher/console manufacteur.
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Is VF gone forever?
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>>163159596
thats nice but why not post in the dedicated smash thread?
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>>163156812
Smash is a fighting game, but the smash community is far too different to ever mesh in any meaningful way with the FGC. The differences in culture are so insurmountably huge that trying to talk about smash in a fighting game context outside of purely mechanical discussion, or vice versa, produces nothing but bewilderment and alienation on both sides.
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>>163159606
I hope so that series was casual garbage
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>>163159606

Probably. Sega is currently coasting by just publishing Total War and Yakuza.
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>>163159658
Fuck off nintoddler this is Fighting Games General
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>>163159596
Smash 4 is as much a fighting game as Mario Kart is a racing game.

Meaning barely, if at all. It's the party genre that Nintendo specializes in. You should make a party games general and post it there or something.
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>>163159764
Why so mad at a still growing fighting game community? You lost this particular arguement over 10 years ago already on the internet. Actually quite sad that you still keep going.
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>>163159764
lol
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>>163159867
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Is UMvC3 good if i just want to spend time on training mode trying random shit out?
Ive never played a marvel game before
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>>163159459
Still $50 for the No DLC. Guess ill wait for the sale
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>SFV doesn't reward unga, but solid neutral play

https://clips.twitch
.tv/bifuteki/SmoggyHamsterBCWarrior
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>>163159960
Damn guess I better call gifs yiff from now on...and sfv is a game for people who can't play fighting games..... ..........
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>>163160110
DELET THIS
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>>163159960
I play Melee on the side and it really ticks me off how much of a pretentious asshole this guy can be. Sits on a competitive subgenre goldmine and then squanders all of it with each new game. The worst part is people ate 4 up.
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>>163160132
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>>163160096
you can trainingboar setups/combos/mixups till kingdom come
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>>163160097
Yeah it is too expensive without the additional 10% off from owning sign.
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>>163160110
All he did was use a highly unsafe armored reversal.
whats the problem there.

Ever played a fighting game before?
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They buffed Necalli's overhead during V-Trigger.
Now you can charge it and get cr.mp (and is some situations even cr.hp) afterwards for some juicy damage.
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>>163160201
>eventscrubs
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>>163160269
Not my problem if you can't hear the gorilla noises from downtown.
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>>163160325
>this booty blasted
http://www.gamespot.com/articles/smashing-the-definition-of-smash-bros/1100-6410475/
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Don't shitpost with trying to reason why a subgenre is not part of the genre.
Instead ask yourself what YOU can do to levelup your favourite games community.
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>>163159745
yeah, now you're getting it
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Why is SFV so boring to play? How can you make it fun? I always close the game down after three games.
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>>163159523
Don't look at evo. Look at the actual non-evo majors. As it is, Smash Majors aren't FGC majors. They're separate.

And that's only looking at the US fgc who have been including smash at their majors in hopes of striking gold.

The japanese fighting game community is even more separate from the JPN smash community and there isn't some big anti-smash sentiment over there either. They're just different communities. On the other hand, every other fighting game there is overlap. Historically arcades have been the gaming house for competitive gamers in Japan. This is due to Japanese culture discouraging video games at home (friends over). Players would have to leave home and play each other in arcades.
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>>163160863
With this arguement you say sfv is not part of the fgc because it has no arcade version.
All it boils down to is an unhealthy hate obsession.
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Now that I think about it

If Juri is korean, why are her special moves named in japanese?
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>>163160110
That was one of the least unga clips you could have picked, he did nothing but unsafe reads as he walked someone down.
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>>163160803

Make friends and play lobby games. Search for a active SFV discord that you can tolerate and ask for games. Playing quick rematches and adapting to someones play and getting better out of necessity is what fighting games are about.

Playing online against random opponent after random opponent is cancer until you are good enough to get top players. And even then you get people like wolfcrone or SFV matches you up with a bronze for no reason.
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>>163160934
No you're retarded. The SFV community is the SF4 community. It is the 3S community. It is the community that plays a shit load of games at the arcades.

I mean it's easily verifiable
>Daigo: ST, 3S, CFJ, SF4, Guilty Gear, CvS
>MOV: 3S, CvS, SF4
>Sako: VS, SF4,
>Tokido: 3S, SF4, Tekken, CvS2, Blazblue
>Fuudo: SF4, VF, Gunslinger Stratos
>Machabo:Guilty Gear, SF4
>GO1: Melty Blood, kuso game king
>Kazunoko: Guilty Gear, SF4, Tekken 7

All arcade games. All players that were originally arcade game players and still play arcades to this day. The fact that they're playing SFV and SFV is not in the arcades is irrelevant. As it is, the SFV community has started to make arcade like conditions by making gaming bars, and gaming houses. Essentially bringing the arcade to non-arcade environments. And a lot of players still play at the arcades for other games, they just don't do it for SFV as it's impossible.
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>update on december """""20th"""""
>comes out at 1am on the 21st
Fuck capcom
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>>163161215
Capcom USA is the one who said the 20th. The presentation was done in Anaheim, aka California the same state and time zone where Capcom USA is located in.

Why on earth would you assume they said 20th intended for the UK time zone? The Japanese site says the 21st.
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>>163160982
Because Capcom still lives in the 90's when it comes to Street Fighter.
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>>163161215
1am on the 21st, JAPAN TIME. That's the morning of the 20th in the US.
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>>163161349
>in the 90s Korea was Japan
really makes you think
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>>163161439
It should be 10 am in Japan.
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>trying to find a Tekken character I really like
>nobody really clicking for me
>try Dragunov
>mfw

based Russian man
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>>163144051
>muh skill ceiling
>Same top 8 every time
>People like fucking Armada suggesting that top players should skip pools
>Hell, it's been done at one point.

Melee is just a shitty WWE at this point
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How can street fighter be part of the fighting game community when they have all those events where they only play street fighter and nothing else? Clearly those are just leeches with no contact to actual fighting games.
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>>163159250
>>163159250
it's just playing against oni and eryu players they have much funner shit to do than Guile.
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>>163161542
>>muh skill ceiling
>>Same top 8 every time
isnt that proving his point
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>>163161610
>when they have all those events where they only play street fighter and nothing else
stop it
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>>163161645
So play someone else
>My fundamentals character doesnt have memes Im going to SFV where his fundamentals are nerfed and he has one meme
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>>163161542
I think Melee just lacks competition. It's basically just NA and some small parts of Europe. If SF was only NA and EU you would see the same guys in top 8 every single big major. Just look at Justin Wong cleaning up shop at every NA major. The players aren't dedicated enough to beat his shit in. They don't have that Asian grinding robot culture.

They've been getting a lot of numbers at tournaments for like 2-3 years? but that's too small a timeframe to really produce a player capable of challenging the big dogs. That's essentially a lot of new players who make the tournament appear strong (cue UltraChen with their Numbers=Strength of tournament BS).
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>>163161690
Why not have an arguement before you reply?
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>>163161510
lol tekken
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>>163161349
Capcom still lives in the 90s when it comes to anything
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>>163161610
Just admit you were wrong you bitch. Whether they only play SFV or not, they're friends with everyone from other fighting games because they didn't always play SFV.

You think Daigo doesn't know who Machabo is? He doesn't know Ogawa? He doesn't know GO1 (before SFV)? He doesn't know Chibita? I bet he doesn't know any of the Japanese smash players though. Because they're a completely different community doing their own thing.

The only argument you have is the US fgc trying its hardest to get some of that Smash cash. A lot of the US fgc has gotten to know smash because of that push along with EVO.
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>>163161746
>It's basically just NA and some small parts of Europe
I didn't knew this, there really aren't any asians in there or is the japanese scene really small?
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>>163161912
Smash 4 has a Japanese scene. Melee doesn't. Smash 4 doesn't really exist in Asia outside of Japan really. Well maybe you can point to Thailand (pretty sure it's there) or Phillippines or something, but it's so small it's not worth mentioning.

Still, I think Smash 4 has potential due to a Japanese scene. Melee will always be the same guys meanwhile Smash 4 will continue to grow with Japan pushing for it. How many Japanese players went to evo? I bet next evo there will be more Japanese players traveling which will inject more hype behind the tournament.
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You're in the club chillin' when this guy slaps your waifu's ass and makes growling noises

What do?
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>>163162054
King is gay though
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>>163162054
Ask him

TEKKEN 7 RELEASE WHEN YOU FUCKING SPIC FUCK WHERE IS IT?!?!
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>>163161875
Why are you this butthurt about smash being part of the fgc and having enough powwer to have their own events?
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>>163162043
>but it's so small it's not worth mentioning
It's not all that huge in Japan either, it's basically on par with whatever random poverty fighters. Japan plays everything.
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>>163162054
back 4
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>>163162043
Actually it's south americans who push in smash 4 as much as japan. Zero is from chile and a 15 yar old prodigy from mexico just won one hell of a stacked event.
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>>163162176
>naming buttons after directions
lol
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>>163162054
Juggle his faggot ass till he's dead
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>>163162175
Yeah it's not bigger than SF, but it's a good size. That's actually hard to do because like I said it's not an arcade community. They essentially have to hold their own events in a place which can't be easy seeing as it must be expensive in Tokyo.

Fighting game gatherings are naturally at arcades and that is where tournaments are held. Essentially you're able to make a community by just going to the arcades.
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>>163162265
american tekken notation is cancer
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>>163162171
I'm not butthurt over Smash and the FGC. I'm just saying it's a separate community. You're delusional if you don't think so. Tell me, where was Smash at NA majors before EVO 2013?

Which Smash players in Japan play SF, Guilty Gear, Tekken, VF, Blazblue, KOF, or other poverty games? Why is there a huge overlap with other fighting games in Japan, but not Smash?

Just admit you're wrong. You know nothing about the Smash community in Japan and it appears you don't know shit about the smash community in the US either.
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>>163162265
>>163162428
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>>163162428
Are you that autist who insists everyone should use the symbol notation used ingame?

Because you realise why that's impractical and the current system evolved, right?
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>>163162428
American notation > number notaion
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>>163162479
←↑→↓↖↗↘ ↙
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>no 4:3 option for new fighting games

why
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>>163162473
>I'm not butthurt
yeah nah
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>>163162735
How do you separate easily tap and hold?
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>>163162737
Only a problem if it is a rererelease with forced side bars and you want to play that version on your trusted old screen/tv.
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>>163162781
How do you tell apart down, back and down back when speaking the notation?
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>>163162232
But Mexico isn't south america lmao

just say spics
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Here's the hope that Ono is not involved in SF games anymore before SFVI comes out.
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>>163162930
why be rude for no good reason though I'm not an autitstic edgelord like that except when I'm describing people that are actual dogshit human beings
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>>163162930
He obviously means Latin America.
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>>163162748
Ahh so you finally gave up on trying to counter my claims.

You're free to answer these anytime
>Where was Smash at NA majors before Evo 2013?
>Which Smash players play other fighting games in Japan?
>Which fighting game players in Japan play Smash?

Answer me this shit. I could literally do this for every game in Japan. Fuck I can even do it for KI in Japan. That shit was never a thing in the Japan and yet I can name Domi and OGTY. Guys who are well known in the Japanese fgc by competing in arcades or in games with a huge playerbase that is active in arcades.
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>>163163072
but im a spic, nobody gives a shit about being called a spic
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>>163162428

it really doesn't matter though, everyone has the notation they're used to and if the notation that's easiest and makes the most sense isn't the one that got used right after release then it doesn't matter how much better it is, nobody's willing to change to it.
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>>163162891
down back is said as one word, downback
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SonicFox is the only god of fighting games right now.

Everyone else is a fraud.
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>>163163231
He's already been exposed by the Japs in SFV, and name any other game that has Japanese players.
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>>163163231
He's not wrong because no Marvel player is going to waste their time playing SG.
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>>163163303
Yeah it is a pretty random claim and I don't understand what it's supposed to prove.
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>>163162954
SFV pretty much exposed Capcom and its developers, so that doesn't really say much about the player.

>>163163303
This is true though.
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>>163163298
>exposed
>#1 in esports earnings
>only person in the world that has 13-0 someone in a FT10

>>163163303
>>163163352
Yes, let the gay furry kid rightfully shit on you frauds
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>>163163420
>SFV pretty much exposed Capcom and its developers, so that doesn't really say much about the player.
Fuck, meant to quote >>163163298
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>>163163625
It means you're doing it too much.
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>>163162954
SFxTK's whole fiasco and SFV terrible launch didn't stop him, unless he gets physically unable of doing his work he's not going to stop there.
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>>163163625
Only if you like child porn.
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>>163163303
But Marvel players are already wasting their time on even worse shit like MvC3...
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>>163163815
I'm not a degenerate, my taste are overall quite vanilla.
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>>163163478
>implying #1 in esports earnings matters in this conversation
Nigga is no god. Come to KOF, take down Xiaohai. Go to SFV and win an international major. Go to Tekken and beat Knee or some shit. Go to Rev and beat Machabo.

This nigga is a fraud. A smart fraud which allowed him to make a shit load of money, but a fraud nonetheless.
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>>163163625
It's your brain's way of telling you to stop watching pornography too much.
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>>163140645
If I add a turbo button to my stick what are the chances that I could get caught?
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>>163163958
what do you expect to gain from that?
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>>163163693
>>163163954
Probably this is it. Lately I'm doing it very frequently.
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>>163164026
money
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>>163163958
If you're playing online pretty easy, actually.
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What fightan game should i play
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>>163163850
>win an international major
He does this all the time and that's why he has the most tournament earnings out of everyone.

He is god in way more games than anyone else right now; in quantity and quality of games.
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>>163164029
Go outside, try to fill the day with schedules and hobbies, get some friends, don't live the rest of your days watching reality from a screen. Get some sunshine on your face and enjoy life.
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>>163163850
Begin top player in multiple games doesn't count because of reasons?

That kind of argumentation is just fucking sad.
Sure I get it, Sonicfixes fursuit creeps me out too and I think wearing it in public is stupid shit, but I'm not denying his skill because of that.

Guy has managed to do well in multiple games multiple times, there is no way to deny that.
Simple fact, that's skill, plenty of it.
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usf4 ?
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>>163164229
Games with literally no competition.
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>>163164278
What about SFV?
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anyone in the EU want to play revelator with a beginner?
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>>163164348
I can play it if u rly want to
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>>163164293
>MKX has no competition
Also, the autism levels in anime fighting games is no joke.
Higher quality competition there. You got your Japs there too.
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Why is SFV the only popular fighting game now with a community that isn't dead?

Honestly.
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>>163164421
>Higher quality competition there
lmao
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>"SFV will be a return to straight fundamentals, more neutral play and shorter combos!"
>Give almost every character more combo opportunities while leaving the neutral the same as before in S2

What did they mean by this?
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>>163164438
easy to access
simple enough gameplay to start out and have fun (the reason anime games have started implementing "easy combos")
iconic characters
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>>163164473
>being this clueless about fighting games
jesus christ
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>>163155034
gb2 https://www.reddit.com/r/sf4
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>>163164473
That it was just a lie told in order to make the OGs dicks harder when in reality they were just trying to make the game more dumbed down?
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>>163164538
Those three you can say pretty much the same about MKXL yet it's dead as shit.
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>>163164545
t. Combofiend

>>163164583
Exactly. And you all fell for it, you dumb fucks.
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Post your most obscure wake ups

>wake up parry (v-skill)
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>>163164213
He does it in games where only UK, Russia, and Tekken Master is from play.

Come on bitch. He hid away from the Asians the entire time and when he finally ventured into SFV he got raped by the Asians everytime.
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>>163164473
Ono was a mistake.
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>>163163231
never forget
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>>163164602
good point, I can't think of why that would be, maybe their target audiences.
MK is a game for dudebros who are going to touch the game once then never again so it's not likely to make much noise in the long run
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>>163164421
you trying to pull a fast one on us nigga?

Want me to educate you? MK is a new scene that really just started in MK9. And no, Japanese don't care about MKX. It's never been a thing in Japan. I think there's like 5 total ppl who play it over there.
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>>163164756
and mvc2 players hide from him in a real mvc2 game

and the american FGC hide from him in MKX, the biggest pay out game right now
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>>163164867
>bootleg mvc for waifuniggers
>real mvc2
I love these shitposts.
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>>163164149
How so, also was thinking more about local tournies and money matches.
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Ok fgg, prove the fgc that you're not here just to insult fighting games and fap to shitty Chinese cartoons. List your current rank in SFV

>Super gold here
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>>163165014
>sfv
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>>163165014
Diamond.
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>>163164950
skullgirls is better than mvc2 in every way and everybody who's played both knows it
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>>163165014
Super Plat.
Shouldnt have taken long breaks from ranked.
Diamond is definitely possible. Do the ranks reset for S2?
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>>163165014
Bronze.

Also I'm definitely here to insult fighting games. For fapping to shitty chinese cartoons, there are better places.
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>>163165014
I am a light blue square in Persona.
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>>163164867
Nobody hides from him. He's the one who needs to make the trip to other games as those games are by far the oldest and most competitive scenes out there.

SF?
>Vampire Savior gods: Haitani, Sako
>Guilty Gear gods: Nemo, Kazunoko
>Virtua Fighter gods: Fuudo, Itazan
>KOF gods: Xiaohai, Dakou, Xian (kof originally), poongko (kof originally), Xyzzy, NL
>Poverty God: GO1 (melty blood, and other kusogames)
>Marvel gods: Justin Wong, Sanford
>Persona: Souji

That's not even counting the SF gods from ST, Alpha, 3S, CvS2, SF4, etc... It's like Fuudo said. "It's like all the fighting game gods gathered into SF to really see who is the strongest."

Now you're telling me they all have to switch over to MKX?
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>>163165014
Stopped at Gold a few months ago. Been thinking about picking it up again.
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>>163165085
>Do the ranks reset for S2?
Why would they? The character changes will affect everyone's performance and effectively 'correct' their rank.
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What fightstick does brick use?
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I realized that most of the r/kappa and /fgg/ shitposters are just dumb fucks.

They pretend to hate SFV but then they don't even support what they consider better games.

And the best part is that most of the people browsing and posting on these sites/boards don't even actually play games. No one will take them seriously.

You fucking assholes.
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>>163165145
he's calling out the Marvel players to Skullgirls which is Marvel too but they're all ducking frauds
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SF4 Ryu is the best iteration of Ryu.

Prove me wrong. Protip: you cant.
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>>163165260
How do you know?

All you hear from an anonymous SFV hater is that he hates SFV.

You have no way to check if they play other games.
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>>163165294
i really cant
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>>163165262
why wont he play the marvel players in marvel then
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>>163165085
Who do you play to be plat?

Don't think so although I'd like the notion
>>163165089
I hate sad panda
>>163165138
Is that high
>>163165168
Same here stopped at super don't think getting to plat would be an easy feat
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>>163165294
No donkey kick. Shit Ryu.
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>the Japanese god of CvS2 and worldwide Capcup champion got outplaced by a Narutard

Don't know how I feel about this.
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>>163165260
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>>163165294
If by Ryu you mean Evil Ryu, sure.
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>>163165014
>sfv
lmao
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>>163165378
who is the narutard?
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>>163164756
Skullgirls actually has pretty dedicated scenes in JP, UK, BR, and some in CAN.
https://twitter.com/public_bigone/status/810683020021788672

Very strong players too. I argue the competition worldwide is better than MK.

But winning in SG is obviously not what paid for Sonicfox's tuition.
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>>163165429
ANBU|Punk
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>>163143484
4ms delay was the standard for 360 sticks in SF4, a game which had 1 frame links unlike SFV

Meanwhile current gen madcatz sticks have faulty PCBs and dodgy soldering jobs
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>>163143654
1 ms vs 4 ms is negligible and Hayabusa are on par or better than sanwa buttons

only thing te2+ has going for it is the case being easier for modding

Razer panthera is better than both tbqh
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>>163165341
>Who do you play to be plat?
Birdie.
I literally see every character from Plat-Diamond though.
Even Juri.
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Holy shit, skullgirls looks bad.
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>>163165458
Bas isn't THE god of cvs2. That's a myth from the US fgc. He's a god of CvS2, but the reality is that players like Daigo and Tokido were better than Bas at CvS2. The only difference is that Bas continued with the game where as Daigo retired and Tokido played other games. Because Base continued he built up his reputation by racking up wins, the US fgc now think he was the absolute best at CvS2.
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>>163165260
Things I dislike about SFV are generally much worse in games like GG or BB, but I'm nit super vocal about my disdain for some of the design choices in SFV. Most of the rabid haters on /fgg/ are anime streamboars or just following the meme.
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>>163165294
Thats not TvC Ryu
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>>163165596
>muh god
>muh japanese players
dude just go back to your smash general, players get what they earn that's it
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>>163165378
And people tell me SFV is not random.

Pray for S2.
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>>163165560
Nice try goober
Skullgirls has the best visuals out of any fighting game that has ever existed.
Its sprite and animation are unmatched, the greatest thing to ever come out even by japanese standards
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>>163162142
>implying you can understand spanish jaguar growls
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>>163165632
what the hell are you talking about?
>>
why do you dickride these players so hard?
you're trash at every game you touch, it's pathetic
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>>163150732
SFV flying stage and beach stage
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>>163155340
SF4 was an instant hit since release

Remember capcom didn't fund any tournaments until the CPT came in YEARS later to milk the scene
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>>163165560
The character designs and audio is shit, but the animation is on point.
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>>163146985
Don't give up anon!!

>>163165225
HRAP4 Kai
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>>163165832
Do you literally ctrl+f your name on fgg when you wake up?
That's pathetic
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>>163165772
SF4 cashed in on the SF2 nostalgia fucktards who only played SF on the SNES and did nothing but j.hk xx sweep
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Reminder SUPER SF4 had TEN (10) new characters since DAY ONE (1) of release

What does season 2 SFV bring? lol
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>>163165560
say it with me

GUINNESS WORLD RECORDS FOR ANIMATION
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>>163158998
Sf2 is about zoning and setups.
Sf3 is neutral until parry into special into super.
Sf0 is an anime game
sf4 is links, fadc and option selects.
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>>163165912
That's a big girl
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>>163165912
Where is nitroplus? I think it have pretty hirez sprites.
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>>163165912
How hard to play are Valentine and Squiggly?
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Was watching a quite old japanese SFEX2+ Exhibition on Youtube. The game looks pretty fun.
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>>163165772
God damn, now the cpt is meant to milk the scene. We asked those niggas for the longest time to throw away money at the fgc and now it's milking the scene.
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>>163165459


post source of faulty pcbs
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>>163165672
Randomness (although I prefer 'volatility') increases the lower the skill ceiling is. Skill is meaningless if there is nothing that has to be learned and more importantly is so extensive, complicated or precise that most players will not learn it.
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>>163166098
https://www.reddit.com/r/fightsticks/comments/4z55a5/update_on_the_teste2_button_held_down_issue/
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>>163166009
Valentine has some tricky timings in some of her combos

Squigly has very important charged stances to constantly keep track of
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>>163165998
It's probably close to BB or DFC.
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>>163165917
>Sf0
wut
Where's muh air dashing and mashing lp combos?
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>>163166009
Squigly's harder than Valentine, but they're both good once you learn them.
They're also much stronger on teams, because it lets them utilize more of their tools.
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>>163166161
https://www.reddit.com/r/fightsticks/comments/5gkan5/te2_problem_buttons_not_registering/

you can also check out the amazon reviews of the many failing after weeks products
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>>163165872
What's wrong with that?
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>>163166229
>>163166161

i have one coming in the mail RIP me and i had to buy it from US when im australian so i probably cant get warranty if it breaks.
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>>163166285
If you bought with amazon you just have to pay shipping for a replacement
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>>163166180
>BB
>hi rez sprites

720p 2009 sprites dawg

Adds to the charm a bit though, seeing how well old ass tech can hold up when it's done well the first time
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>>163166187
Thats SF4 without the air dashing
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>>163166161
>>163166229
kys
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>>163161746
zero from tr4sh visited japan once and also said that the japanese players are stronger on average. but yet the strongest players are still in the US.
it's kinda similar to how capcom cup went this time.

you weebs need to stop thinking that just because japan isn't involved, there is no competition. there are still plenty of people that grind. same goes for melee.
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>>163166167
>>163166210
O-oh. I'll try it out later when I'm done messing around with BBCF and still waiting for T7 then. Thanks.
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>>163166132
Exactly. This will hurt the impact of the game in terms of spectatorship in the near future. Spectators want a "prestige" factor, something they know it's not easy to do and it's cool, whatever it's long combos, hype defensive tools or just a simple mechanic that makes the match more exciting.

SFV wants to be ST without the things that makes ST entertaining to watch.
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>>163166454
The Japanese community is rather new. They're only going to keep getting better. You'll know in time. In Smash's case I think that's due to how close everyone is as opposed to the US where top players are spread out.

Of course there are people that grind, but fact is that due to Japan's density, their top players are constantly playing each other. Might be different in Smash as they have to gather and have those Umebura tournaments where as in traditional fgs they play each other far more frequently.
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>>163166359
In terms of sprites 720p is high res as fuck, which is why they are majorly lacking detail. Even with their rotoscoping process having complex sprites of that size would be time consuming and costly as fuck. Also, 720p sprites being displayed in 1080 is basically not upscaling them at all so they look very clean and natural.
>>
Is hearthstone a fighting game?
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Has anyone built an ark to survive the great flood of mika players tears once the patch hits?

>wahh what do you mean i don't just get to fish for claps into knockdown/setups anymore
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>>163166791
Shadowverse is a better fighting game
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>>163166829
Enjoy the Uriens lol.
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>>163166653
>Spectators want a "prestige" factor, something they know it's not easy to do
How about the skill to still play capcoms newest garbage and still give them money+free pr? Not many humans could pull that off.
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>>163166851
This anon knows what's up
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we made it boyz
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>>163166860
>st.mp is - if he doesn't finish it into the OH
>aegis mixups always lose to v-reversal

Urien is honest comparatively if you know the matchup
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>>163166925
DING DONG DING DONG
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>>163166882
But I don't find that impressive, only depressing.
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>>163146985
>Brick beats me in Melty 100872 - 0
>Now i want to learn Melty more in order to pay him back one day
Just look at the fear in the eyes of this doge and imagine it's Brick, this is what motivates me every day.

what are the defensive options in MB?
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>>163167142
Shield
Block
2a
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>>163166434
stay mad scrubcatz drone

https://www.amazon.com/gp/customer-reviews/R3W29NQIH126BK
https://www.amazon.com/gp/customer-reviews/R1I5QJV1TLZ2HQ
https://www.amazon.com/gp/customer-reviews/R19CTWDEWC5JKD
https://www.amazon.com/gp/customer-reviews/RO1O9XX0CI4BW
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>>163166713
>their top players are constantly playing each other.
that is also the case with melee. in structure, the melee gods feel similar to how japanese gods are like:
>highly competitive among themselves and some other few strong players
>almost no upstart can touch them
this is exactly the stuff that high competition produces.
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Chun getting buffed like crazy remind me of the time they buffed Elphelt in that Sign build solely for the fact "she didn't win a major".

Guess who plays Guilty Gear Xrd?
Yeah...
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>>163167416
Pachi?
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>>163167494
I meant Woshige.
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https://twitter.com/Louffy086/status/810817447905337346

Was he right?
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>>163167635
How is it random though?
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>>163167635
The most "random" is a pretty big word, but it's a very weird game, that's for sure.
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>>163167635
of course a mika players says that

he should play honest characters
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>>163167416
Woshige also really like Chun. From what I've read she got a lot of nerfs, but fucking letting her v-trigger cancel her fireball is retarded.
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>>163167635
While I can't say for sure if it's random or not yet, I can definitely say the game is not for OG and footsie-based players.
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>tfw too intelligent to pick a top tier
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>>163167873
Has /sci/ gone too far?
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>>163167635
>anything more random than 3s
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>>163167387
I doubt it's to the level of Japanese SF where all the gods play each other every day. Hungrybox isn't friends with Mango right? He lives in another state. Armada lives in Sweden along with Leffen (not a god, but up there). Who else is left? Mango and M2k?

Yeah, not the same. It's most likely different in jpn smash as they have to meet up which isn't as frequent as the fg scene in japan.
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>>163168091
is that a jojo reference?
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>>163168007
3s neutral was hyper focused thanks to parries, cancels, and multiple supers
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>>163168142
>parryable anti airs
>not turning the game in the most random fucktarded guessing game
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>>163167635
It's very different. Jumping is super viable because anti airs (apart from jabs) are generally weaker in this game. There is a lot more buttons thrown out in anticipation. Basically a lot of top players are trying to restrict your incoming approach in a way that is different from older SF games.


That explains why Daigo isn't top 5 in world. That's the only thing that makes sense.
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>>163167635
It just the way they made this game that doesn't feel coherent.

They say they want to remove all vortexes from the game since people were tired of it since SFIV, but then you have characters like R. Mika or S1 Alex who their entire gameplan is revolved around 50/50s and set-plays.

They say they want to reward neutral and solid play but yet they made the tools that would enhance this playstyle weaker leading to more unga kind of playstyles since normals are quite stubbier than usual.

It's just a mess of a SF game. If you want to take a route that's good, but commit to it.
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>>163168239
All they had to do was rebalance SF4 to remove some 50/50s setplays, remove some OS, change elena healing to super instead of ultra, and nerf rose backdash
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Where did this idea of returning to fundamental SF come from? In Japan it was advertised as a reset to put all players back on equal ground. Meaning that what you learned in SF4, you would have to relearn and start from the beginning like it was the case in every transition of SF.

Was it Kusofiend?
>>
please help
http://www.strawpoll.me/11910317
i'm poor
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>>163168365
It was from a statement during last year's EVO Panel for the game.

Yes, Combofiend said that statement.
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>>163168365
Combofiend made the rounds about honesty, and of course the goons like valle, mike ross, gootecks, etc., all promoted this notion of "honest gameplay"
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>>163168358
No one bought sf4 anymore. They had to release a new game to make money. Of course this quickly came them and the sellout fgc biting in the ass.
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>>163168460
Combofiend? The marvel lowlife?
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>>163168365
you know whats "equal"? random chance

fuck capcom
>>
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMoXSu7Vi9E

I thought necallis V-trigger was for a limited time in season 2. looks pretty infinite to me?
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>>163168594
what is random in sfv?
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>>163168604
muh 50/50s
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>>163168597
It was just a rumor spread around with no actual sources. We already knew that it was BS after we saw some footage of S2 Necalli.
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>>163168597
everyone damage reduced and vskill is used on most combos.
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>>163168427
>>163168460
Man he really fucked up. He was fed lies by that nerd translator that works for Capcom USA most likely. Yeah it was never supposed to be about fundamentals, just a hard reset.
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>>163168597
Ah yes, the good old "judging changes from a "leaked" beta" meme. A favourite of mine!
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>>163168636
I see. So has Mika actually been gutted like everyone is saying then?

Anyone know?
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Quick /fgg/, how would you fix SFV?
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>>163168706
The rumors about Mika been gutted were true. She got some minor buffs, but her nerfs are really big.
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>>163168745
Delete it and kill everyone who played for more than 2 hours.
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>>163168745
Make everyone play Ryu
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>>163167142
With F-Moon

Shield xx shield counter (236D), the shield counter is a fully invincible move that launches on hit allowing you to combo after

Bunker (214D), it's an alpha counter kind of move, costs 50 meter, but for F moon it's only useful against multi hit moves. You can also do it on wake up and it costs 0 meter, it gives you less reward than shield but you don't have to guess high/low because it works on everything

Jump away when you think I'm gonna reset my pressure (most safe)

Mash (SUPER risky, don't try this too much at the start honestly unless you know what I am going to do, better to jump)

Also get used to blocking a lot, the way melty works is that it's easy to do a lot of frametraps and shit to catch the opponent mashing/jumping, so it's easy to make him block, but actually mixing him up is much harder. Block a lot and try to see when I may go for a riskier reset and counter it.
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>>163167142
>brick beats me in sfv 100 - 0
>wake up
>remember he can't run the game on his dual core
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>>163168745
Make all the DLC characters free.
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>>163169049
t. goober
at least ours character can be unlocked with fight money while yours have to be purchased directly.. pathetic
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>>163169082
You can't even earn enough FM for 12 characters, m8.
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>>163168745
more juggles, more cancels, 4 bars
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>>163167735
The only honest character in the entirety of SF V is Zangief
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>>163169113
Why would anyone ever need 12 characters?
You can't play all of them to justify the purchase in the first place. Imagine if SF4 had a similar system, no one cares about the 43 other characters on the roster, everyone only plays one character unless they are infiltration.
>>
>warned for talking about a nigga eating his boogers on cam at a fighting game event

mods, I realize you eat your boogers too but calm down. If you want to police the threads you visit, atleast familiarize yourself with the topic at hand you ignorant fucks.
>>
Why do people bitch about Mika when Balrogs entire existance is 50/50s

DUDE FULL SCREEN LOW LMAO
DUDE FULLSCREEN MEME PUNCH INTO OVERHEAD
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>>163168745
Just move on to SFVI with a different, more competent dev and art team and possibly fire Ono.
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>>163169164
Some of us have friends that we play local matches with.
>>
decent price on a ps4 stick right now?

I'm honestly excited for MAHVELso I might as well be ready
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>>163169212
its not their job in fact they do it for free.
you cannot have high expectations from the mods when they are only voluntarily trying to make this place a better place
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>>163169164
The only time I can understand that complaint is if people have friends that need to use that locked character. Otherwise, why bother spending fm on characters you have no interest in playing?

You'll still be able to play them, you just can't play them. If you want to study matchups and use training mode, alright. You'll be short like 6 characters.
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>>163169278
Razer panthera senpai, it's worth it
markman approved and made
>>
>buy gg
>go online
>get destroyed
>go back to steam to refund the game
>"lol no you played it for 3 hours can't refund it because muh arbitrary policies :^)"
>wtf i only played it for like 10 minutes
>check processes
>the game stayed open all this time

this is really the most pathetic scummy tactic I have ever seen from a game developer.
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>>163169378
wtf that's a glorious scam
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>>163169378
I was told autists have no creativity.
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>>163169378
>scummy
It was your own fault
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>>163169378
>this is somehow a fault of GG
>so fucking fat that his lazy eye cannot look at the taskbar
I get that you hate GG and haven't played it but enough is enough. Go play a fighting game you actually enjoy and come back when you have something worth posting about.
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>>163169512
>>163169549
no you idiots, I quit the game and it looked to be closed but the process was hidden still running in the background
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>>163169593
Still your fault, there's nothing scummy about that
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>>163168745
keep on supporting it as they do now and ignore /r/kappa crybabbies.
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>>163169593
that's the PC cuck experience. You played yourself
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>>163169226

>Yes/No
or
>Maybe/Maybe/Maybe

Ill take the former
>>
https://mobile.twitter.com/direwolfinbed/status/810556806560940032
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>>163169332
>razer
>markman
not even once
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>>163169378
Buy a ps4, pc is too hard for you
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Oh boy! I love Tekken! How much do you love Tekken?
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>>163169226
Mika is good
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>>163170113
it's ok.
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>>163169226
balrogs ogrehead is mega fucking slow.
just block low you gay.
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>>163170113
I used to love things some time ago too.

Then I changed, and it seems like I'm doing things more because of some kind of inertia rather than because of love.

You made me hate fighting games. Fighting games are games.
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*yaaawn*
good morning /fgg/ :3c
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>>163169332
Markman did a great job, but he was carried by Daigo. Markman had a hand in that too so he gets credit for that, but he won't do shit with Razer if he has to compete with Daigo.

It will be like Pep without Messi. Pep getting exposed. Don't get me wrong, it was still smart for Razer to hire Markman. BTW, I wonder which stick company is going to sponsor Daigo next.
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>>163169879
>direwolfinbed
Typical gay furry Melty player
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So fightcade is great and all but they don't have MK. Any way to play the classic MKs online?
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>>163170205
put some pants on you fat fuck
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>>163170430
i think xbox live arcade and psn have classic MK games available for download. not sure why you'd want to tho mk is gahbij
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>>163169278
kys nigga
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>>163170113
I prefer VF's aesthetic as opposed to Tekken which gives me this ed hardy feel to it in its designs.
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>>163170430
Steam has the collection with 1-3. Otherwise emulators.
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can anyone template this for a hori rap4 kai, had some dark space left/right if need
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>>163169278
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Anyone have list if Karin changes in S2?
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>>163170902
list if karin changes in s2:
[ ]no
[x] yes
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>>163159606
Don't worry!
Virtua Fighter 5: Final Showdown is coming to current gen consoles!
In Yakuza 6
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>>163171367
>ps4
>next gen
Next Gen is Switch. ps4 and xb1 are this gen and with Switch outdated last gen.
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>>163171367
it's better to play the 360 version with xbone backwards compat lmaoooo
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>>163171431
t. Smash autist
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Does anyone know if I can order a new decal for my Hori RAP V3 SA? The old one is comming off and I don't wanna do some shitty DIY stuff by trying to print a new sticker or painting the metal plate myself.
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>vortex strike hits on both sides and is faster
>buffed cr.hp
>has better damage meterless than s1 with meter
>j.mp cancel to eagle spike for meaty cc cr.hp or ex eagle spike for damage
>v-skill roll is actually useful and has more projectile invincibility and can be canceled into super
>less recovery on fireballs
>can't interrupt cr.hp xx wws
>jump back mp juggles to h eagle spike for a lot of stun
>still has corner carry and throw loops
Can't wait for season 2 family members
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>>163171531
No one is going to play him anyway because its a shitty character design.
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>>163148157
What in the fuck am I looking at here?
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>>163171531
>Season 2 online will be Rashid, Bison and Dhalsim overload
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>>163171627
kys polturd
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SEASON 3 WHEN
>>
I'm not a fan of SF5...
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>>163171531
Did they fix the fact he couldn't get all the Spinning Mixer hits after some juggling situations like after the opponent gets launched by his V-Trigger or him getting hit by his EX Eagle Spike?
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INGRID WHEN
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>>163171627
What? He's pretty popular for a low damage technical rushdown character in a gorilla damage s1
>>163171670
Rashid doesn't get much from online but yeah you'll have to hold the frametraps and tick throws/shimmy for days
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>>163171901
ONO PLS
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>>163171962
>>163171962
>>163171962
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>>163171901
probably soon
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>>163170113
i love tekken tag tournament one and two.
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>>163171642
LOW
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>>163172852
TIER
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>>163170113
It's literally one of my favorite game franchaises of all time so very.
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