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rito for new shadow leader edition
Shadowverse is a class-based collectible card game akin to Hearthstone /hsg/.
The next expansion, Rise of Bahamut, will be released on December 29th.

Official reveal site:
https://shadowverse.com/cardpack/riseofbahamut/

Compilation of all cards revealed, including leaks:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1jfOwl01oC0Xw7Jowun6LBK_01qzmpauM6yN7VhYlefc/edit#
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Platforms: iOS, Android, Steam (http://store.steampowered.com/app/453480/)

Official Website:
https://shadowverse.com/

Card Database/Deck Editor:
https://shadowverse-portal.com/

Intro Guide/FAQ:
http://pastebin.com/xNmQuDzR (read this if you're new)
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Ibw62rcFMrkvWl_KPKUuRC_0f7LbvwE27ubQ-EJo0oQ/edit?usp=sharing
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=799676100

Take 2 Card Rankings:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1k55fDS9LpX66H-pm5EgGouqwQSCF-sje-o5UwrXUwdI/htmlview#

Get your cheat sheets here: http://imgur.com/a/Dpbmh
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Some anon made an all-in-one Steam undub and uncensor for the lazy or mentally handicapped. Open wide and enjoy responsibly:

https://mega.nz/#!tl1mGaIQ
Decryption key: !tsu910nR6lT_xTQAx9QUNI_96DLJ0mvgIwwThp5lPS4
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Artwork of all the cards, ripped from the game:
https://mega.nz/#!ekIjXaza!qKXIP9x0tZ5ooNDXk-HHudlUBiZR_Zt3pmF4PhYMxrI

A growing collection of animated golds/legendaries:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1QUpZN9cgz0dvh637EYl5Pcx7PkXJlpufIL9Muc08jB8/edit#gid=1781390872

Come here if you want to search for card artworks:
http://www.corpetit.com/public/rage_of_bahamut/

Search by artists:
http://seesaawiki.jp/mnga_bahamut/
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You can listen and download both EN/JP voices for cards at this place:
http://usamin.love/sv.html

Get your iDOLM@STER Emblems and Sleeves with this guide:
http://steamcommunity.com/app/453480/discussions/0/152390648098880643/
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shadow'd >>163110271
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Koume shadowcraft leader when?
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>>163137534
after rita
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>>163137426
>0/2 for 2 duck

IT'S TRAAAASSSHHHH~
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>11 days till Rise of Bahamut
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>>163137534
>>163137607
There are classes that have no cute leader at all yet.
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>>163137481
http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=58412681
>>163137523
https://exhentai.org/s/73d7bc0bf4/910157-79
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>>163137916
Thanks
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>Upcoming Shadowverse doujins are all rape doujins
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>>163138060
remove elf
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>Wake up
>RoB is not out
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Aggro bats is fucking garbage in A2. I can't win a single game unless i get matched against Dshift.
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>>163138060
I can't wait for a new Rune archetype to unfold so I can take a shot at it and have a reason to bounce Isabelle's tits because I don't want to have complete die roll matchups on ladder.
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>>163138060
nice
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elves are for breeding and love slaves
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>tfw you draft the perfect curve
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>>163138060
Men can't be raped, silly.
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>>163138165
steam release is out already
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Play Dragoncraft.
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>>163138239
>implying
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>>163138167
Aggro Shadow is the best aggro deck

>>163138297
I'm trying and I have no idea how
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Need a concede please.

26661
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>>163138350
Best girl.
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>>163138165
You can't fool me, Nico.
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Suripi.....
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How many of you Rune players are swapping out Hagtits for Marisa when she gets released?
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>>163138486
I'm sorry. Top deck Urd punished me really hard, and then I made greedy plays afterwards.

Will play Control Blood next time as well after gauging the competition.
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>>163138239
Feels good.
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>>163138410
Hello?
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>>163138404
Thank you.
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>>163138548
never lucky
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>>163137534
Want it
Need it
Now

Sachiko for dragon
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>>163138350
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>>163138548
Good work out there.
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>>163138297
Translate it weebs
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>>163137871
Which?
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>>163138554
Ugly.
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>>163138762
Haven, Forest.
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>>163138762
Dragon.
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>>163138762
Rune and Haven ofc
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Cant ever win with dragons, join and conceed so i can hear the dragons roar 25461
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>>163138832
>>163138837
>>163138879
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>>163138826
Pssh, says you

>>163138879
>>163138832
>>163138837
The only one of those that is actually correct is Forest.
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Where do you get your Shadowverse lewds?
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>>163139024
Forest has the cutest cinnamon roll, though.
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>>163138832
Garuda is pretty cute and so is Arisa.
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>>163139068
google
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>>163138954
Thank you my Mushussu's are happy now
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What the fuck is enhance?
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>Mulligan all 3 cards
>Go second
>Don't get anything that costs less than 3 until turn 5
What the fuck is this?
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please dont insult my mother
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>>163139416
it's when you enhance your card :3
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>>163139441
you've been winning too much

the algorithm has to stop you
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>>163139416
Mandatory kicker.
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>>163139458
cute mom desu
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>>163139458

Your mother bullies little girls. Tell her to stop.
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>>163138837
You take that back! Rowen is top tier qt
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Why do people find aggro fun?
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>>163139606
But I lost the last 4 games in a row.
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what's longest streak you went 1st /svg/? Mine's 12 in a row in ranked then 5 more in take 2.
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Anyone else think that Eris is going to adopt Luna and she'll become a priestess at the end of the story?
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>>163139710
Brainless retards who just want to win as fast as possible without going through the effort of actually playing the game
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>>163139441
>have RAISE DA FLAAAAG deck
>fuck the haters it's fun and reminds me of the days of Rebels in MtG
>literally cannot get the fucking flag out
>ever
>3 flags
>3 fucking maids
>none of them in over 12 fucking turns of the game
>and I went 2nd so I had the second card draw to boot

The fucking RNG in this game is retarded at times. I notice this shit only happens after long win streaks too.
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How fun is Flame and Glass?
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>>163139710
hearthstone refugees
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>>163139710
>>163139710
only braindead sword player finds aggro fun

im ditching this cancer deck as soon as i reached AA
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>>163139710
Because it's fun to punch people in the face.
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>>163139458
Is that nipple I see? sauce please
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>Pinion Prayer turn 1
>Beastcall Aria turn 2
>Hallowed Dogma turn 3
j-just outplay it :^)
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>>163139786
t. Psuedo-intellectual control nu-male
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>>163139441
Let me guess, control sword?
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>>163139781
Nah. Luna will marry Rowen and everything's gonna be ok
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>>163139914
Aggro Shadow.
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>>163139710
it's riskier therefore more entertaining to play
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>>163139797
Post decklist
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I want to banish all of Luna's followers!
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is exhibitionist anon still here?
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>>163139892
fuck off retard, dont reply to me ever again
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>>163139921
luna would not marry a cuck
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>>163139921
Rowen already has a wife and child
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>>163140025
but luna is married with me already
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Reminder that Elana Haven is literally the most brainless and cancerous deck in the game, even more than Banner since at least they only get a flat 1/0 buff
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>>163139892
Literally every archetype is more interesting than aggro
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>>163140014
I play aggro to piss you off.
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>>163140051
Yes and?
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>>163140014
Or what, you're going to post about me on your Tumblr?
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>>163140097
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>>163139997
I'm doing it right now desu
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>>163140082
Neither of those are Midrange Sword which is actually the most brainless deck in the game
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>>163139995

Same as every other carbon copy cut and paste Swordcraft cheap-ass to make deck out there.

I only started playing like 4 days ago. Already to C ranks, feels good man.

And I just made a cheapo Havencraft deck to go with it. Fuck the haters, I like the themes of these guys. I burned down all of my cards from every other faction to make these.
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>>163140082
literally no one mentioned elana and everybody agreed theyre cancer

>b-but elana is worse

whats with sword player and their persecution complex, just admit you play braindead class alreade
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>>163140082
t. pseudo-intellectual mid sword
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>>163140014
It's hilarious that you think that's smart in any way and doesn't make you look mad.
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>>163139710
Decent aggro deck is cheap nigga

I ain't got legos to do anything else
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>>163139781
but eris is evil

>>163140014
cuck
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>>163140260
Ungacraft players have the mindset of "At least it's not combo"
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>>163140420
Stop avatarfagging
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Is it greedy to keep every >average legendary and gold cards? Or should I just pick 3 classes and dust everything else?
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>>163140269
>>163140220
>>163140260
>Shitting on Sword out of nowhere to try and save face
t. Elana players
Just kidding Midrange Sword is by far the stupidest thing in the game
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>>163140482
fuck up yank
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>>163139710
Because it ticks people off for some reason and they don't take long to play so they're good for faster laddering.
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>>163140260
Banner is much, much weaker than Elana
>flat 1/0 buff for 4 mana
>1/1 buff every time leader is healed for 3 mana
>every buff is accompanied by a heal and not only attack but also defense is increased, outvaluing to infinity
>b-but they're both amulets so they're literally the same strength!
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>if i don't win all 5 rounds in t2 i lose a small amount of my savings
f m l
i just want to grind packs ;_;
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>>163140420
Who is this
sperm worm
boner toner
spunk monk
cock dock
erection ejection
dick tick
cum plum
seed steed
prick chick
cock stock
seminal sentinel
phallus chalice
anus ignoramus
smegma enigma
beef curtain hurtin
cunt runt
jism prison
ballbiting ballerina
dongle mongle
penis machinist
chin chin bin
scrotum sorceress
wiener cleaner
pole populator
stiffy stimulator
pillar pimper
column culminator
testicle tamer
sperm specialist
glans gladiator
frenulum fractionizer
foreskin forenicator
Penile Private
Smut Sergeant
Cock Captain
Orifice Officer
Rear Admiral
Cummander
Lewd Lieutenant
Meat Major
Cunt Colonel
weiner witch
phallus phalanx
cock commandant
dong deity
seminal fluid druid
jizz wiz
benis burglar
wang waxer
schlong sentinel
penis shaft landing craft
dick dastard?
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>tfw not good enough to draw my own Shadowverse doujins
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>>163140420
Please restrict FGC lingo to fg talk
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>>163140568
I'll be the judge of that.
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>>163140014
cute
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>>163140545
But Otohime xD
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>>163140518
I never disenchanted anything except duplicates and after a few months I have the most expensive decks in the game and viable decks for every class including multiples for my favorite classes
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>>163140482
t. Assblasted Sword retard
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>>163139797
You don't really need banner to win but it does increase your chances massively.
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>>163140518
Just keep unless you absolutely know what you're doing. Only dust stuff that's bad or only fits in decks you have no interest in playing
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>>163140660
I don't play Sword, I just hate the avatarfagging shitposter
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>>163140545
Banner is worse than Elana.
But no one except low ranks shitters care about Banner. Mid Sword is both better and easier to play than Elana.
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>>163140649
Cygames are kinda weak jews and I'm grateful for that
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IF YOU DON'T PLAY WHAT I PLAY THEN YOU'RE CANCER

CANCER
A
N
C
E
R
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>>163140635
>Running Otohime in Banner
Both of you are idiots

>>163140756
>One random ass image is avatarfagging
That'd make half of the posters here avatarfags
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>>163139797
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-UN6uRMBRw
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>>163140775
They make enough off whales from idolma@s and GBF. And the new premade decks with alternate art leggos will let them jew people who love that shit while also keeping it super f2p friendly for people who don't care
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>>163140838
>>One random ass image is avatarfagging
>Being this new
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>>163140758
>Mid Sword is both better and easier to play than Elana.
Maybe Pure Elana, but no way for Elana Hybrid.
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>>163140893
>Being this stupid
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>>163140824
we see you, seraph autist

your deck will never be balanced
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>>163140963
Isn't there like 2 cards difference between the two? Why bother separating them?
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I play Elana Seraph, PtP Forest, Sword Aggro and DShift
Feels good to win to be honest
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>>163141005
But Elana/Seraph has a less than 50% winrate in Master's!!
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>>163141070

Hybrid withholds their dogmas and such, I think?
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>>163141070
Fucking no one plays pure Elana or pure Seraph, it's a pointless distinction to make.
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>>163140972
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>>163141157
not true
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concede plz
96081
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>>163141070
Elana without Seraph is very vulnerable to control and has a pretty bad winrate overall.
>>163141157
I play pure Seraph, it's way more fun than the hybrid is
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Should I liquefy any of these?
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>>163141070
Hybrid runs more CD reduction and Prism Priestess, sometimes Odin
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>>163141274
the gold if you want would keep everything else
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>>163141274
nope
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>>163141096
i main banner sword, hybrid elana and d-shift

feels good man
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>>163141274
Maybe crusher

Rest is top
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were there sleeves before bellringer?
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>>163141274

>He has animated Satan

I want him, so I can play with a full animated apocalypse deck. Give him to me.
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>>163141274
Fuck no
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>>163141274
Definitely Cerb. Then post a webm of you doing so.
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>>163141359
>aggro shit
>cancer
>counting to 18

much interactive
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>>163141270
convince me exorcist is good. I've seen it included in a lot of decks but cudgel and themis always seems to be enough and do the job better.
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>>163139797
>Played flag the other day
>Opening hand 2 maids and a flag
>Mulligan into a maid and two flags
>First three draws are a flag and two dance of deaths
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>Your a cancer if you play a deck that have the highest chance in winning
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>>163141274
>>163141274
cerberus and tsubaki are pretty bad

dust them
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>>163138165
Is there a Nicoshitposter in every general?
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>>163141469
>>163141594

Don't give him shitty advice.
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>>163141507
It just helps clear stuff that Priest cannot reach. Since you are playing HEAVY control it's very good to have.
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>>163141507
3 mana means she can be fit into the curve easier. The fact that she can straight up axe anything can be really helpful against certain situations like huge ancient elves.
And she's a fine t3 play if you got nothing else going, 2/3 is a very good statline.
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>>163141551
Midrange sword?

Also any anyone explaing the difference between midrange and control sword?
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>>163141507
Killing anything with 5+hp without burning a themis on it or ramming something into it. Also PEMN.
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>>163141551
>Decks only take skill if they're shit and near useless
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>>163141476
>mid range sword = count 1234loral dancer
>ptp = count to 30 then afk
>any aggro = look mom the card is green can i use it?
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>control blood in the tourney
the absolute madman
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>>163141697

Midrange doesn't use 8+ cost cards

Control either runs Leo, Olivia or some other card like that along Alexander, Frontline, White Paladin.
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>>163141757
>baaaaaawwww X class has an optimal play
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>>163141697
Midrange just wants to vomit followers on curve, control the board or hit you in the face when possible, then Otohime into Sage Commander for the win.
Control Sword wants to aggravate you the whole game with good removal and a million wards until the late game when they outvalue the shit out of you with Leonidas/Olivia/sheer card advantage
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>>163140963
Elana Hybrid is way easier than Pure Elana having tried both. Pure Elana has less consistent draws and has to navigate varying wincons, Hybrid's the most linear deck in the game and always takes control position in every match up.
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>>163141862
>dragging 3+ follower into the field each turn
>"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""'play""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
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>>163141390
no
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>>163141951
>Shitting out heals
>Discarding your hand
>Counting to 18
>Playing countdown reduction on your "I win card"
>""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""play""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
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>>163141551
you are cancer if you have to netdeck instead of coming up with a deck of your own
statistically netdeckers suck at this game despite the fact that over a few hundred ranked games you will end up with the same deck as the one on SV sites
you still know all ins and outs of your class, as opposed to mouth breathing retards and their "p-post dicklist"
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>>163138060
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>>163141951
>Playing followers doesn't count as playing the game
Hey buddy I think you picked up the wrong hobby
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>>163141951
>>163142049
take your meds
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>>163142092
Post rank.
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aggro shitter should fuck off back to /hsg/ desu
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>trying to figure out how to fix my dragons so ill stop losing so much
>notice that i happen to have 3 Neptune's
>fuck it lets try water dragons with 3 neptunes, 3 queen serpents, and 3 seabrand dragons
>10 win streak
Well shit fuck discard dragon i hope one of the unreaveled dragon cards in RoB is Megalorca related
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>>163142092
idiot
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>>163142169
SSS+
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>>163142320
d o d g e d
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>>163139710
i dont, control and midrange decks are just too fucking expensive so i have no choice
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>>163142274

I do too, actually. I'm hoping for more cooler/varied strategies in general in the expac after RoB
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>>163142274
Play aggro. I can post my decklist if you want.
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>>163142459
I can't wait for Midrange Sword and Tempo Elf to continue to be the top 2 decks in the game!
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>>163142274
It could be fun but that's not what we're going for, senpai.
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>>163142274
>fish decks might become a reality in your life time
Yes please.
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>>163142274
Queen Serpent is so awful. The idea is nice but it's a turn 7 4/4 + 2/2 that requires you to play Neptune off-curve on turn 8 if you want any value.

It should've been a 6 cost for 4/4 + 2/2 unconditional Megalorca so you can curve into Nep. Dragon has a theme of slightly overtuned vanilla followers, and it would've fit perfectly.
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>>163142274
D rank?
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>>163142515
>Midsword
>Good with all the board clears
>Tempo Elf
>Ever good
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I like to imagine cards from the same decks hanging out together and make up stories about them in my mind.
Is anyone else autistic like that?
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>>163142515
I can't wait for Shadow to break into T1 with Neptits Control!
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Should I wait to open regular card packs until expac or does it not matter
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This bitch got a name? I looked but I couldn't find shit.
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>>163142691
Weirdo
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>>163142650
Man, they usually give you above curve on spread bodies too. No idea what's up with the one being below.
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>>163142613

>what is midrange sword
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>>163142686
As long as Midrange Sword has Otohime board clears will never stop them from being the best/the second best deck in the game since she stacks up so fucking well against board clears.
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>>163142691
Tell us your stories, anon.
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>>163142734
expo has different packs
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>>163142770
She's a girl, not a bitch
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Control blood winning in tourney
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Control blood just smashed dshift in the tits, lemme see those vampy flat chests
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>>163142691
>Cuties like Charon and Cerberus hanging out with Skeletons
Might be fun.
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>>163142781
A Conjure Twosome equivalent for Megalorca would also be good, since that would enable turn 6 2 Megalorca + Mushu for incredible Nep pain on turn 7.
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>>163142312
you can't even make up an original insult, eh?
how typical
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>>163142471
I'll probably stay with the fish for now but post it anyways just in case

>>163142650
Its a 5pp

>>163142678
C3 =^)
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>>163142947

>vampy

It wasn't some loli that killed witchtitties, it was a man with POWER.
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>>163142789
>three fish cards at most
>fish deck
I don't see anybody calling Banner Sword a maid deck.
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>>163142770
titty skank?
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>>163143053

Well, your point is pretty valid, but Otohime is a pretty big deal in midsword, whereas maid leader is the enabler, not the star.
>>
Explain me exactly how a card like Merlin is even remotely balanced with 2 draws, that is even semi controllable with multi spellboost as a 4/3 evolved 4pp

The stats are good enough to trade into most things at turn 4 with spells backing you up, and the draws and boosts are crazy.
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>>163143009
You would avoid playing Queen Serpent on 5 since it spawns no Megalorca before Overflow, which is the whole point of Queen Serpent.
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>>163142734
most decks are composed of standard cards.
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>>163143196
>Otohime is a pretty big deal in midsword
Not after 29th :^(
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>>163143205
she's not supposed to be balanced. Every class needs their cerberus/otohime/tia/etc.
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>>163143046

He didn't do shit. Vampy contributed 3 damage, bloody mary 5 herself and 8, bloody wolf 2, the 3/5 flat chick 5 and finally the 2/5 guy did 8 damage
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>>163143205
What's wrong with decks having good cards
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>>163142940

>implying I'm not planning on making a meme deck entirely made of females+cards that make liches and naming it Liches and Bitches.
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>>163143205
>card games
>balanced

Choose one. CCG's are all about imbalanced shit dominating play because anything that isn't broken is useless shit.

This is why you have deck archtypes in the first place, and why you have "Gotta have" cards that define entire decks. Because they're broke as shit and good enough to build whole decks around.
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>>163143205
I agree, which is all 4 drops are not just 4/4's with no abilities so now every class is balanced.
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>>163143205
Merlin is really strong, it's true. And what's wrong with that?
Every deck has broken shit. Merlin is honestly not a big offender compared to other classes' hilarious bullshit like Otohime or Ancient Elf
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Daily reminder tempo forest is a meme.

>1/1 body
>need to survive 1 turn to get buff
>tempo
Kek. Get raped by Royals horde of 1/2 2/2 and storm followers.

Only good forest deck is ptp deck.
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>>163143362
>Liches and Bitches
Godspeed anon, you should post the list here once you make it
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>>163143303
>People still thinking board clears will impact Otohime.
You guys have no idea what makes Otohime so good. She's especially good BECAUSE of board clears. Your whole board just got wiped as Sword? No problem, just slam that Otohime. Your Otohime got hit by a board clear? That's great, they just went 1-for-1 with one of their most important tools against you, and now you're free to shit out more followers with reckless abandon.
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>>163143009
This is what I use. Bellringer Angel needs to be replaced, but i'm not sure by what exactly. Could any anon's give suggestions? I tried Dragonscholar but she was just an inconvenience
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Thanks to the help of people in this thread, I built this budget sword midrange with only the cards I already had, got up to B0 and secured all the unique rewards for this month. Surprisingly little difficulty until the end. How much farther do you think this thing can take me?

Also, just played against a Rune deck using Conjuring Force. Is that an alt wincon for Dshift or a separate deck entirely?
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>>163143651
Unica or that 2 drop overflow storm dragon
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>>163142774
>>163142857
N-no bully
The young girls in Forestcraft like May and Liza play together in the forest like children and play with the animals. The older girls like Fairy Princess and Rose Queen act like big sisters or mom and feed them and teach them stuff.
All the soldiers in Swordcraft (Quickblader, Oathless Knight, Ascetic Knight, etc.) are bros who take mercenary jobs during peace times and hang out at taverns after work and get served ale from Maid Leader.
The skeletons in Shadowcraft (Skull Beast, Spartoi Sergeant, Bone Chimaera, etc.) are like pets for all the young girls like Necroelementist, Apprentice Necromancer, Playful Necromancer, etc. The girls organize fights between their pet for fun, like cockfights. The skeletons don't mind because when they lose and get their bones spread apart, they can jus reconstruct themselves back.
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>>163141274
Cerb, Satan and Tsubaki are all shit
Keep Crusher
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>>163143539
>implying tempo forest needs to get them down to 0 health with cynthia, windgod and fairies
just get them to 12 or so health and lethal from hand with roaches
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>>163143669
>using trash like Minotaur and Raging Ettin when White General is one of the free class cards

??
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>>163143734
This is cute AF
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Poor elana.
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>>163143669
You might get to A0 and then you'll have a hard time. Conjuring Force is a legit alternate strategy for DS other than Flame Destroyers.
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>>163143669
>budget
>like 5 Legendary's

You got a funny definition of budget.
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>>163143362
With the new lich card and the new bitch card, it could be possible.

>>163143734
Judging you pretty hard. I do the same thing.
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>>163143734

That fanfic sounds pretty comfy

(note I'm not using fanfic as an insult)
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>>163143626
And that is on top of other royal cards that split out 2 defence followers or put out a body and draw more cards, or followers with storm.
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>>163143734
>Cute girls having skeleton pokemon battles
Cute!
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do i pick good card + bad card, or really good card + really bad card?
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>>163143976
Dark version of this comic where the skull beast gets banished by Cudgel when?
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>>163143734
If you could draw you could turn this into something nice
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47052

Please kind anons
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>>163144067
Left
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>>163144078
No bully.
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>>163143626
I would say the real hard counter to Otohime are the new Blood cards which actively punish spawning a bunch of weak trash tokens with life burn.
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>>163143905
Minotaur was a replacement for Veteran Lancer and I rarely felt a difference, Raging Ettin functioned as a weaker Aurelia and general late-game drop that could stall while I built a board of weenies to buff.
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>>163144067
easiest left
titty's sanctuary wins games in t2
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>>163144067
All of those are good in take two idiot
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>>163144067
>bad card
>really bad card
Neither of those are that bad. They're meh at worst and can actually do some work if you manage to draft enough fairy generation. Yeah they're useless with no fairies but if you don't have many fairies running around you're gonna have other problems with your forest draft
I'd go left because lol ancient elf
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>>163143734
>The skeletons don't mind because when they lose and get their bones spread apart, they can jus reconstruct themselves back.
sounds like eternal suffering to me desu
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>>163144135
>If you could draw
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>>163144140
I love you anon <3
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>>163144230
>battling for the joy of little girls
more like eternal heaven no fuck off eris
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>>163144230
Bones can't feel pain
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>>163143948
Yeah, was pretty ironic because I had many of the good legendaries but was missing quality commons so had to make replacements. However, it was missing Alwida's, Tsubaki, and Wholehearted Swing.
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>>163143976
Grown up Skull Beast when?
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>>163144324
But Eris is a little girl, she has amnesia and forgot everything.

Now let's see some fanfics of the other girls bullying Eris because she's retarded compared to them.
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>>163144193
Okay, but I'd take it easy and not climb to A yet until you're able to swap out the 4 subpar cards.

I mean, you would easily be able to, but once you hit A, you lose the winstreak bonus and complete netdecks become much more common.
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>>163144496
>4 stars rarity

lmao fucking scrub, get banished
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So, for a new guy here, how long does it generally take to actually get good cards and build actual, tourney worthy decks?

Assuming you don't actually spend any money on the game at all.
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>>163143923
>Cuckspear
>trying to take credit for Forte-chan's victory
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>>163144918
Depending on your legendary rolls, I'd say 2 weeks for 1 or 2 tourney decks
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>>163144698
That was definitely something I worried about. Because I'm probably not skilled enough or have a good enough deck to be the best of the best, my priority is just getting points to obtain unique monthly rewards. So I dreaded leveling myself so high that I couldn't win often enough to get the rewards.
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>>163144918
If you reroll enoguh then you can get started on one or two good decks.

Banner Sword is cheap as dirt and can easily carry you to A0, Face Dragon and Storm Haven are a bit more expensive but still cheap.
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>>163144918
Like under a month, at least that's how it was in my case.
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Hi everyone. Sword that just made it to A rank and I wanted some advice on my deck. I find myself losing a lot of the games if it drags too long. I'd appreciate any help you guys can offer.

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>>163144918

I got myself set up with a 3 Cerberus 3 LotF midrange shadow deck in about three days.

I only bought 2 packs with gems, each at 50/per

I melted down a LOT of non-shadow shit, though
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>>163145128
>I find myself losing a lot of the games if it drags too long.
That's what happens with MidSword, that's not a problem with your deck. You can stick in an Olivia if you want to try to mitigate that
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>>163145128
its pretty solid, i dont see why you lose on late game, i guess you're trading and stuff

Just focus on hitting face and trade ONLY when its necesary

You can replace sage commander with banner meme too
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http://shadowlog.com/trend/2016/50/0/

>Sword is the most played class and the one with the highest win rate in all ranks and in Master only, and Midrange Sword the most played deck
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>>163145128
Some things are a little weird, like Pompous Princess with no Quickblader, but it otherwise looks like a typical mid sword.

You could either commit to more aggression with Mentor's Teachings and White General, or you could run a more value-oriented version with Avant Bladers, though this is out of style in the meta right now.
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This Rune deck is SHITTT
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>>163145128
i would sub Sage for Frontguard or two
and what >>163145250
said
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Rare footage of Dragon winning a game
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>>163145358
Only the Sword fags here pretend that Sword is okay.
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Take my energy Yue, win the tournament with control blood
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Ah, both finalists ended up knocking me out. Makes sense since they both had control lists.
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>>163145128
Midrange sword floods the board early and makes good trades, then uses burst damage with charge/buffs to end the game. Against control or combo just go full face.
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>>163145418
I have plenty of those
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>>163145358
Fuck Swordcraft so much.
I really want them to nerf Sword and I'm an advocate of printing new cards to try and balance things instead of reckless nerfing. Sword is just such a blight on the game in its current form. It's like they didn't even try to balance the class
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What tourney are you guys talking about?
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>>163145358
It's funny how long it took for Mid Sword to be at the top again just because it got no new cards in DE.
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>>163145553
new cards that it never needed anyway
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>>163145528
Nah, I hope sword stays strong forever simply because it pisses people off, same for every other deck that pisses people off, anyone that actually gets angry at things in a cardgame doesn't deserve any better.
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>tempo meme

So much tempo here.
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>>163145418
Had to play Dragon for my dailies today, got a couple as well.
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>sword mirror match
>they draw banner
>I don't
>lose to cursed general into floral fencer evolve
nice meme
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>>163145665
kek
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62565
Can I get a concede please?
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>>163145665
I know you're just a faggot but when a deck continues to be tier 1 with one of, if not the, highest winrates in the game through multiple metas it means there's a problem.
It doesn't help Sword is ALSO broken in take-two. Sword is just a poorly balanced class.
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>>163139710
It is either that or play some cancerous deck based on "lol I win" card. It is a lot more dynamic.
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>>163145749
Thanks Dragonman
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>want to play cool decks
>dont have legends and golds
>have vials to craft
>dont want to craft
such is life
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>>163145553
It's like all the Sword players from pre-DE went to Storm Haven or something when the expansion came out because Sword didn't get anything knew but then they realized Otohime into Sage was still strong all along.
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>>163145520
>>163145720
Dragon fucking blows and this is honestly the first deck that I've played where I think "Holy shit I want to kill myself" while playing it.
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>>163145708
What is this new meme of people saying Tempo Forest sucks?
Also you're fine, just play and evolve a fairy and ram it into temple defender, hit the cudgel with justice, kill the cudgel with your other two fairies, then next turn evolve cynthia with another cynthia as back-up. Yeah you'll be down on evos but that's why Tia exists.
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WHO THE FUCK RUNS EXECUTION x2 IN CONTROL BLOOD

FUCK I'M MAD
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>>163145665
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>>163145915
Well that's your opinion
>>
servers down or some shit? why the fuck cant i log in?
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FUCKING ADD HER ALREADY JESUS FUCK
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How the FUCK did Rowen end up as a military commander when he's the most spineless beta cuck piece of shit ever? Like, can you imagine him barking orders at his men? Because I sure can't. More likely it'd be the other way around.

At least Erika knows how to be assertive even if she's a lesbo.
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>>163145915
>Dragon fucking blows
>Face Dragon has a 54% winrate on ladder
>Storm Dragon has a 54% winrate in AA and Master's
Don't take the memes seriously anon.
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Would you __include___ her in ____your deck______, /svg/?
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>>163145418
footage of dragon setting up the conceding ritual
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>>163146052
>>Storm Dragon has a 54% winrate in AA and Master's

Where do you get that winrate?
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>>163145915
It just depends on the day. I did really well today.
I didn't face any elves though, that might be why.
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>>163146073
That gobo with the inner tube is cute!
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>>163145250
Thank you, I was considering that and/or Odin.

>>163145405
I'm a little hesitant to sub sage just yet, his win condition with otohime is pretty good.

>>163145342
>>163145459
Yeah, I always thought the strategy was to trade positively and exhaust their hand. I cannot imagine going face, especially against decks like elana.

>>163145381
Are quickbladers better for midrange sword?
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>>163145963
kill yourself elana cuck
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>>163145963
I've noticed people doing random Odin/Execution techs because they're butthurt about Elana Seraph.
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>>163145790
Sword is literally turn dudes sideways and board flood:the class, you can't get more basic than that. What sword has over every other class is simple consistency along with zero gimmicks to drag it down. It doesn't have to work around anything, it just does things.
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>>163146138
close, I was PtP
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>>163146272
>it just does things
which is why retards love it
fuck counterplay, flood the board and pray they dont have removal
this wont change in RoB despite board clears, they will just switch to midrange from banner
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>>163146052
What the fuck ever, I hate this goddamn deck and I feel like a massive jackass for making it.
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>>163146272
No what it has is completely bullshit overstatted cards to absurd degrees. They're way, WAY too good at their job. Cards like Floral, Alwida's, Otohime, and Sage Commander are absurdly overstatted, meaning Sword just shits out so much value that other decks have trouble keeping up, and because of Otohime board clears aren't as effective as they should be.
Shout-outs to Sage Commander for being one of the most hilariously overstatted cards in the game to the point where I still don't understand how anyone gave that card a pass.
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>>163145963
HAHAHA
I DO AND I LOVE IT
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>>163146130
Face is the only way to win against Elana. While you're being stalled by their healing and outvalued by their buffed cards they'll just be waiting to draw an expensive card to end the game. Just go face and force them to make bad trades. The worst is if they boardwipe but you just have to learn not to overextend.
>>
Help me senpai
39968
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>>163146272
>What sword has over every other class is simple consistency along with zero gimmicks to drag it down. It doesn't have to work around anything, it just does things.
You could say the same about Forest.
Every other class's cards gets understatted to hell and back to compensate for their additional effects but Forest gets a shitton of overtuned cards that are vanilla stats at worst and become hugely overpowered when played with the class's incredibly straightforward "gimmick" that rewards you for simply playing cards.
>>
how to fix disco dragon:
>wildfang deals damage to the board instead
There
Wasn't that hard at all
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>>163146418
It's the turn dude sideways class, of course it was gonna get dudes that are good at their job, because it doesn't have anything else going for it.
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>>163146418
>Shout-outs to Sage Commander for being one of the most hilariously overstatted cards in the game to the point where I still don't understand how anyone gave that card a pass.
Cynthia exists.
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>>163146410
I want to make this deck so bad but I know I will regret it after a couple of games.
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>>163146523
no we have to keep wildfang the same so we can go for the imperial dragoon one shot.
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>>163146407

>people didn't go with satan ramp dragon

It's a relatively cheap deck (satan is the only lego I had to make) that translates into other decks in the future. Urds for example go into other decks along with Satan.
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>>163146458
I tried to join but it said there was a problem with your connection and ended the match.
>>
Please concede :3
62119
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>>163146108
his ass
>>
TOURNAMENT SPOILERS SINCE THE STREAM CUT OFF

Yue 2-1
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>>163146651
sankyuu
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>want to play ptp blood or literally any other control deck
>no fucking vials
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>>163146130
>Are quickbladers better for midrange sword?
Run Vanguard and Quickblader.
Vanguard is ideal t1 play against decks like elf and rune when going 1st. Quickblader is a great t1 play against haven. Vanguard helps with trades against certain decks, Quickblader is godly for sniping X/1 fatties, as well as becoming a 1 cost sneak in on a t7 sage play.

Mid sword wants to establish early board presence and pressure, you want to hit your t1 play most of the time. run both.
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>>163146819
liquify cancercraft
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>>163146529
That doesn't justify them being as broken as they are.
>>163146565
Cynthia is worse than Sage Commander in most situations except for her dumb evolve effect. She only buffs followers who can already attack and only gives them +1 attack. Yeah if she survives she ends up being better in the long run but if she survives you basically won anyway. Now keep in mind I'm not saying Cynthia is bad; Cynthia is insanely powerful. But think of how absurd that makes Sage Commander. You just plop him down and get fucking stupid amounts of value.
Because a 6pp card that gives everything, not just officers like any sane designer would do, in play +1/+1 forever should DEFINITELY be a fucking 4/6 on top of that.
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>>163145943
I lost was not even close.
He played 524 heal and draw., then another cudgel then themis my cynthia put a ward, then heal bitch for 5 hp I had to evolve cynthia again and finally olivia.

Another game against royal. Saber into barrage into saber. Done.

Tempo is a meme because it is shit. One one plays it. No one streams it. I rarely see another fellow tempi forest. Everyone is ptp.
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>>163146634
My game closed, sorry for it
Try 11237
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>>163146892
Dork Dork Fucking
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>>163146573
Although I didn't spend any dust on the deck, it's definitely not worth it either way. The animated Creed is the only reason I bother playing it.
I really wish it was good, but Cygames decided not to release ambush cards in RoB.
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>Ramp Storm has the 2nd highest winrate in Master out of the top 10 decks used
http://shadowlog.com/trend/2016/50/4/

[ROAR]
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>>163146892

Dicked Dork Fartay
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>>163146970
please no
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>>163146940
Just because you suck at the deck doesn't make it a meme.
http://shadowlog.com/trend/2016/47/0/16
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>>163145358
>PTP Forest and DShift in the dumpster, played mostly to shit on Elana Seraph
>Elana Seraph and Face Dragon are the only thing shitting on Mid Sword
>Tempo Forest is basically Mid Sword that does better against Elana Seraph but loses to Mid Sword

End this meta now.
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>>163146940
>No one plays it

Current Rank 5, 8, and 10 play aggro/tempo. And two of them stream it almost daily.
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>>163146917
Actually it does, the class about dudes should have dudes that are really good at their job of being dudes otherwise everything else would shit on them.
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>>163146949
I love you senpai, thanks
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where's the tourney stream?
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It feels nice to be playing a not shit deck again.

>>163146626
I already had a bunch of other decks, I made Face Dragon on a whim for reasons I can't even comprehend. I actually play Aggro Shadow normally.
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>>163147090
Link?
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let or right
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>>163147068
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>>163147161
https://twitter.com/misstopiaaaa
https://twitter.com/osasimi1992
https://twitter.com/yushi_lov
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>>163147204
r-roar....!
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>>163146917
Sage Commander is only that great if you have a full board already. It would be like saying Seraph is OP for control, except they're only going to play it once they have no further need to control the board. Letting sword get board control and play Sage Commander is the same as letting haven play Seraph with board control, the game ends at that point, you already lost.
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>>163147201
Angel Crusher will lose you the game.
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>>163147070
>ptp forest below 50% winrate
Nice meme site will visit again.
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>>163146905
That makes a lot of sense. How many would you run for each(vanguard and quickblader)? And would 2 pompous princesses be sufficient?
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>Daria banishes
>literally the only discard effect that does this in the game
Literally what is wrong with giving Rune more PtP options? It's not like they'll ever match the bullshit that is Forest.
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why does Forte have such a big butt holy shit
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>>163147121
Of course, if your class gimmick is white weenie then the dudes themselves should be strong. But they went too far with Swordcraft. It's been consistently the best or second best deck in every single meta so far. Pre-DE it had one fucking bad match-up. It's just straight-up overpowered in its current form.
I understand that they get extra value dudes since that's all they have, but that doesn't excuse them being completely overpowered as a whole. The stats don't lie, Sword is broken.
>>163147084
Play Earth Rite PtP
It crushes Sword and Haven and can hold its own against Forest. It loses to DShift though
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>playing elana in unranked
what the fuck is wrong with people?
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>Control Blood is shit

t. D0 shitters
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>>163147348
Because shit like Master Alchemist is 7 shadows on its own. Rune does not need a Altered Fate with a body that also doubles as a mid-sized beater.
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>>163147068
She's made to be bullied by dicks
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>>163147338
This is my deck. You can sub ascetic knights for pompous princess, I sometimes switch back and forth on the two. (Tsubaki x1 and Alwida's x3 not pictured). Princess dilutes the maid pull pool and sometimes you need the defense for good trades more than the 2/1 stat, but she does help thin your deck of 1 costs to help lessen your chances of top decking them.
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>>163147453

I always believed in the memes, good work all non aggro bat blood players
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>>163147217
Thanks I just realized have subscribed yushi lov nico actually
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link to the stream?
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>>163147449
I only play Elana in unranked for dailies because I don't want to sully my ranked record with Haven filth.
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>>163146892
Very nice looking water.
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>>163147259
>This tired argument
Good thing Sword isn't insanely good at getting and maintaining board control due to their collection of bullshit cards and doesn't have the best card to play after a board wipe in the game.
And that's no argument against Sage being broken. He's still broken because even if he only buffs one follower you're getting way more stat value than you paid for and it's fucking trivial to buff more than that. A +1/+1 to everyone effect should cost far, FAR more than just 1 stat point off baseline stats. It's absolutely absurd.
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85676
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>>163142730

Her art triggers me because its so close to showing her feet but it cuts off right before
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>>163146108
>>163146698


Out of 12839 games Face dragon wins 52,8%

That is quite generous for "fucking blows" you idiot

Look at shadowlog or gamepress statistics if you want to know.

But dont just ride the memes without knowing data behind it. Face dragon is strong, its just the discard dragon we make fun of.

You are welcome to submit your own counter-data if you got any that is over 5000 games.
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Since i'm new to the game, i don't know if this is normal or not, but do they gave free packs for us when the expansion hits?
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>>163147469
Master alchemist is actually 8 shadow if you count the earth rite it destroy to activate its effect.
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>When that one random ass card tech pays off
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>>163147831
face dragon is complete garbage those wins are against memedecks and aggro bats
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>>163147831
Face Dragon is Forte's deck so it's not like those "h-head the dragon's roar" memes still don't apply to Cuckwen.
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>>163147635
I agree that the other followers are the problem, not sage commander. But I think it's clearly meant to be a game-ender, so nerfing it would remove the point of the card. Other classes just need more tools to deal with sword's followers early.
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>>163147870
Eh, I count the amulet as being left from the card that made it but yeah, she's 8 if you count her popping it.
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>>163147982
>Not posting the deck
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>>163147904
>No guys the stats don't count because I say so!!
Must be nice to be stupid enough to completely ignore reality if it interferes with what you want to believe
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>>163147840
They did on the first expansion, it is expected for this one but it hasn't been announced yet.
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>>163147348
They probably tried it as discard and decided it was too good.
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>>163143362
Thanks dragonbro!
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>>163148070
what's your rank?

face dragon gets desroyed by wards and board clear

forest and sword play lots of wards and rune board clears like crazy

that leaves us with how many favorable matchups now?
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>>163147673
Thanks mr. skeltal
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>>163148156
>he thinks Face Dragon loses to non-dirt Rune or Forest
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>>163148075
Did they announce something with the first one?
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>>163137426
WHAT THE FUCK MAN THIS OP??
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>>163148310
I main forest in masters and I piss all over forte and the goblin

keep memeing with chen, moron
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>>163148434
It's great right
That duck is totally phallic

A little color correction and some blur will make the image perfect
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>>163148156
yea man runes got so many tools to prevent storm damage
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>>163148156
AA2. I've played Face Dragon a bit when I have daillies; last time I played it I got a 5 game winstreak.
Face Dragon beats MidSword and PTP by the way, and it does okay against Tempo Forest. Yes wards stop you from going face but one big ward isn't usually a problem. Siegfried exists after all. The problem is stuff like Control Sword or, like you said, Dirt Rune (which basically no one plays) that can constantly shit out wards.
Really it sounds like you just suck at the deck. Which is kinda funny, it's not exactly a hard deck to play.
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>>163148156
>what's your rank?
Please stop doing this shit, it adds nothing to any discussion.
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>>163147449
>guy plays 3 elanas
>boost his angel shit to almost 15 attack within 1 turn and hits face
>gets Seraph'd
Glory be!
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>>163148571
Only if it's yuri of Eris dominating Luna
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>>163147453
>>163147468
If it's not tier 1 cancer with near or over 60% win rate going second, it's worthless garbage. People need the biggest proven statistical consistency to compensate being shit.
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>>163148571
Depends on the content. I write some myself, maybe we could trade.
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>>163148571
Heck yeah.
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odds i dust all my shit and make a control deck
evens i reroll tomorrow
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>>163148534
Are you posting saying the duck will be Haven?
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>>163148809
Hope you're ready for the bald cock.
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>>163148696
Tier 2 decks are all just completely unplayable garbage after all.
Match-ups and the current meta are far more important than tier list placement.
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>>163148826
dumb frogposter
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>>163148693
I was thinking more of writing about the cards themselves or the leaders with their own cards.

>>163148716
My favorite stuff is futa on female, straight shota, yuri and consentual impregnation
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why does every haven i face in T2 have literal sun satan constructed decks
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>>163148809
>burd into lancer
>baldy into a Unica and Unica
>Burd into Unica
KILL ALL HOBOS
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>>163148693
Second this.

Please, god, please.
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>>163148541
They do actually. Juno, master alchemist, the 0/2 ward.
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>>163148886
Get ready for Silver Bolt kiddo. Forest cancers never rest.
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HAVEN AIN'T FREE
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I-I'm so confused
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>>163149032
Too bad no one plays dirt rune.
They're missing out Earth Rite PtP is a really good anti-meta deck for the higher ranks
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>>163149032
He was referring to dshit though
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>>163149052
Opp conceded after wiping his board.
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Look at your most recently played deck. Your lowest cost card will have to go undergo chemotherapy to treat cancer.
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>>163149108
Right, Fishies aren't worth a dead card and both of the ones on the right are really good.
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>>163148994
That's all fine with me. I'm partway a cuckquean/chastity/domination story with an elf servant and her human owners. Please look forward to it.
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>>163149124
Shits forest everytime man.

Also makes Elana shitters concede after petrifying Elana.
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>top 16 stats

INCOMING BLOOD NERF
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>>163149108
>Both pairs add up to 10pp
What could it mean?
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>>163149235
>0% win rate
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>>163149235
>0 play rate
LUNA HAS NO FRIENDS
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>>163149274
>0% winrate
>0 out of 0 matches
>Also 100% winrate cause no one fought it too
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>>163149228
It also absolutely, completely destroys Sword.
I think I lost to Sword twice playing my Dirt Rune build and I fight those fuckers every other match at least. Cucking Midrange Sword so hard is one of the most cathartic experiences I've had playing Shadowverse.
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Should I be playing take two?
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>>163149274
Isn't 0 out of 0 technically a 100% win rate as well?
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>>163149235
these stats mean nothing considering the entire tournament was B rank garbage players.
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>>163149361
But they never won a game, so they actually have a 100% loss rate.
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>>163149374
I know right. I would've entered and won free money, but I'm too busy not being a loser.
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>>163149352
Banmer got this guy now next expansion though. I will expect this guy running in Banner decks.
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>>163149417
By that logic you're losing an infinite number of games every moment because you're not playing them.
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>>163149468
>8pp
>in banner
yeah okay
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This card isnt even out yet and i feel like it should be nerf to only put the highest "follower". Spell card like silver bolt shouldnt be allowed. Basically if you dont win by turn 8 you lost against forest.
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>>163149468
There is no way Banner will run an 8pp card. That might even be too pricy for Midrange.
An interesting Control Sword option though.
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>>163149525
how is this any different from ptp?
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>>163149525
And then forest draws all their silvers bolts early and wolf does jack
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>>163149593
Control Sword's getting all sorts of fun new toys, it'll be fun.
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>>163149489
You know what they say.
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>>163149630
Obviously he then draws you your back-up Rose Queen instead
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>>163149468
>8pp
>5+1 face damage at most
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>>163149436
I dont know if this is sarcastic but you probably could. Even the grand finals were full of terrible play. Most notably your champion who didn't see lethal where all you had to do was claw face and pass the fucking turn
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>>163149630
Rose Queen/Forest Giant?

Cause Forest Giant works like Silver Bolt too
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>>163149604
You can excute or banish it with Odin. You cant do shit against that card if it does kamikaze and trigger the last words.
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>>163149723
Yeah it seems a little overcosted. Functionally it's going to be dance of death that does 4 damage and could potentially get another attack in.
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>Having fun as ptp witch
>Hag dc
Why they do this?
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>>163149828
Havenfags are subhuman.
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>>163149742
Forest Giant is follower-only
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can someone give me a code for a good banner deck for grinding through A?
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>>163149742
forest giant only hits followers you double faggot
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>>163149858
There's like several types of havenfags.
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>Rune and Haven get what are basically autowin conditions by turn 7-9
>Shadow gets an RNG fuckfest on turn 8 that requires gimping your entire deck to build around it in order to play
Literally why is this allowed.
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>h-hear the dragon's roar
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>>163149525
it's not a good card so you're definitely over thinking this
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>>163150118
Because Shadow has a turn 6 deal 11 from hand combo that only requires 2 cards.
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JUST
U
S
T
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>boot the game for dailies
>replacing a win 1 match with X for 20 rupies
>get win 7 for pack
>mfw
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> Really want to make a new deck.
> Expansion soon so it feels like a waste of vials/gold.

J-just 11 more days of playing Aggro Blood.
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>>163150118
>Marisa
>Not an RNGfuck fest
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>>163149871
Put whatever you want for the remaining 10 slots

inb4 no avant
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>>163150189
Why would you want to make a new deck when you're already playing the best one?
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>>163150189
>batggro is for life
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Can someone tell me why I get 800 vials for this card? It is not animated btw.

All other Gold cards I have, I get 250 for, as far as I've checked.
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>>163150293
It got nerfed
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>>163150293
Recently nerfed cards get full vial value.
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>>163150293
It was nerfed so you get full value back used to be a 5 cost
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>>163150225
>9 cost
>Implying we will ever get to use this card before get pummeled to death by aggroshitter.
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Anyone can give me a concede please?

42240
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>>163150274
>>163150265
I'm winning more than I'm losing, but as I climb the ranks I'm seeing spookier things. I was thinking of having a less ALL IN deck in case Batggro hits a wall.
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>>163150351
dumb frogposter
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>>163150293
Used to cost 5 and fuck over Otomeme harder than anything being released this next expansion, but it made PTP Forest unstoppable so they had to nerf it.

Vial it immediately since chances are the full vial refund will be gone soon.
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>>163145720
>>163145520
>>163145418
>>163146008
>>163146119
>>163146119
Ever tried winning a match with Dragon without any Fortes?
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>>163150225
Marisa is so fucking good it doesn't even matter what you fucking draw. Worst case scenario is a 5/5 body on the board for what was probably an undercosted play and a fresh hand.

The only deck building caveat to using her card effectively is that you have to have a lot of spellboostable cards in your deck. Gee, what a dilemma.
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>>163150351
hey buddy maybe read the fucking card
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>>163150225
>Draw 5 cards
>RNGfuck fest
Imma cut you down
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>>163150351
>Ignoring the spellboost effect
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>>163150414
I do ramp and emissary to call satan.
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>>163150259
I still don't like avant in bannermemes.

I understand that it gives you more stamina, but fucking up 40% of your banner pulls is just unimaginably bad.
I'll take Mentor's Teaching over it any day gives dmg and draw and since you barely have anything other than banner that's not a follower, it can't really screw you.
Because fucking up a maid leader and not having a turn 4 banner is game losing, and I don't like rolling the dice.
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>>163150414
>Ever tried winning a game without good cards
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>>163150351
With Daria, you ARE the aggroshitter. This ain't your grandma's control deck.
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>>163150162
What class has the best legandary then?
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>>163150364
Thank you Luna
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>>163150259
>No Centaur.

You mean 7 slots fampai.
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>>163150509
ATOMEME
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>>163150514
Why is Luna a rude cunt in English
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>>163150509
Balanced knife ears craft of bouncing wards.
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>>163150489
>not having a turn 4 banner is game losing
You fucking what? If you're in a position where you can afford to drop banner on curve (ie they didn't keep your board clean/mostly clean), then failing to do so isn't going to lose you the game at all.
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>>163150495
Seems like Dragon is overly reliant on a single card to win. Reminds me of another class.
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>>163150509
That's pretty subjective anon. I am sure you will hear a lot of cerbs, seraphs, otohimes, and fortes.
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>>163150509
in RoB? rune by far
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>>163150489
I understand not liking Avant in Banner, but teching in Mentor's is a completely separate decision that doesn't really have any place in a discussion about what to use for your main hand refill.
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>>163150593
Which other class?
>Seems like X Deck is overly reliant on its win condition to win
Face Dragon is not the only deck of the class.
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>>163150685
Wow, you sure got me there. What a blunder on my side!
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>>163150351
>>163150685
SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU STUPID FROG
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>>163150685
dumb frogposter
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>>163150715
Shadow and Cerberus. Any Shadow deck worth their salt has it. Tell me of a viable Dragon deck without Forte.
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>>163150489
>>163150591
Here we go again
>>163150523
I don't like him in my starting hand. I take veteran lancer over him. Of course I mulligan him away, but sucks that if I drew him prebanner
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>release a evo neutral follower that's even more overtuned than Strength and Beauty Together
What did they mean by this?
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>>163150779
What does she do?
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>>163150779
Let's nerf Floral Fencer by giving a better version to everyone and letting sword keep extra copies for redundancy.
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>>163150569
>>163150584
>>163150617
I meant in the new expansion, rise of bahamut.

Imo its forest > blood > rune > sword > shadow > haven = dragon
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>>163150852
5 cost, 4/5 -> 5/6, evolve effect: put a goblin mage in your hand and make its cost zero
Goblin mage: fanfare: put a random 2 cost follower from your deck into your hand
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>>163150775
Ramp satan or better yet discard dragon
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>>163150775
Tell me a viable Sword deck without Floral Fencer
Tell me a viable Elf deck without Ancient Elf
Tell me a viable Blood deck without Vampy
Tell me a viable Haven deck without Priest of the Cudgel

The card pool is small as fuck and every single class has a number of auto include cards. Dragon is different in that Forte is an outright win condition in one of its decks, and an auto-include in others. Your observations are stupid.
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>>163150779
Probably their attempt to address 1st vs 2nd winrates by releasing a strong 5pp counterplay and also releasing a counter to that counterplay with Teena.
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>>163150509
Haven has Idol
As far as lego effects go, both him and seraph are S tier
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>>163150971
>fanfare: put a random 2 cost follower from your deck into your hand
neutral
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>>163150259
thanks senpai
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>lose to elana
>he never played elana
heals are fucking cancer
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>>163150929
Good: Blood, Sword, Rune
Okay: Forest, Shadow
Meme: Haven, Dragon
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>so tempo

Disavantaged against control. Disadvantaged against aggro. Only good against bats because they are the same shitty 1/1.

I am done with this retarded tempo meme.
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>>163151024
Teena doesn't counterplay Feena though, she deals 5 damage to neutral followers which won't kill Feena and is overkill on mini gobu and she doesn't have enough attack to kill her outright either.
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>>163151020
>Vampy

what card is that?
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>>163151161
If Feena traded into something after evolve, which she will have 99% of the time, 5 damage will kill her.
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>>163151131
>sword, blood
>good
>haven, forest
>meme and okay
D0 shitters get ye gone
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Speaking of Elana, what's a good Themis substitute? I'm making a deck right now but don't want to spend more card juice than I have to. I assume a third Elana is non-negotiable.
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>>163151136
>gobbos
That's Aggro Elf retard
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>>163151225
Vampy, Vania, whatever. I use the names interchangeably and don't really care that much about the card or the class.
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>>163151020
Thing is, those decks can win without them. If you don't draw Forte, you've pretty much lost. All the screenshots here >>163150414 feature Forte dealing the last blow. I call that "too dependent" on your win-con. Reason why Neph and White Wolf are going to be bad, too dependent.
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>>163151282
There are no substitute for themis
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>>163151282
fug I forgot to mention I already have two Themis
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>>163151282
There isn't one.
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>>163151024
Teena is an anti-neutral tech card whose effectiveness varies wildly depending on how many neutral fatties your opponent runs (the answer is usually zero).

Feena has a useful generic effect that will see a lot more play.
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>>163151325
But Face Dragon isn't a good deck
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https://shadowverse.com/news/maintenance/news-0045
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Elana nerfed to 5 PP when
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>>163151325
Face Dragon isn't a good deck either.
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i shouldve fucking sandbagged
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>>163150414
Who needs forte(s)
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>>163151442
Oh baby, we get to see the card voice actors in English now.
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>>163151442
>no nerfs
Ok, I'm done playing this game
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>>163151442
>Damage estimates during battle disabled
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>>163151553
Probably because of all those new stories-for-your-friends effects that shadow got
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>>163151131
>Neptits
>only "okay"

Absolute blasphemy. She'll be the savior of control shadow, you'll see

>>163151325
The difference is that Face Dragon is an aggro deck with very little draw power, while Nep Shadow is a control deck with decent draw power and the ability to stall until you draw what you need. I don't have a whole lot of confidence in White Wolf either, but Nep is probably gonna be roughly as consistent as Seraph is now, at least in terms of drawing her, and that's perfectly fine.
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>>163151024
>Goblin Hunter summons Goblin Mage
>Goblin Slayer counters Goblin Hunter
Something seems wrong here.
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>>163151442
>– Play card voices in the inventory
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Vampy-chan is superior!
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>>163151282
Themis is a 3-of with no replacement
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>>163151270
>rank shitposters can't even follow a conversation further than 2 posts
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>>163151225
>being a dub cuck
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>>163151020
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iV7jAOhCvkQ
You could try PtP Blood. It isn't Vampy reliant.
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>>163151682
The great thing about Neptits is that she'll only grow stronger and stronger in future expansions when shadow gets better and better last word effects
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>>163151637
>Probably because of all those new stories-for-your-friends effects that shadow got
What >>163151736
is that supposed to mean?
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>>163151736
I know you were talking about legos, that is why you are a fucking retard who cant put two and two together
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>>163151546
t. Curvestone shitter

>>163151758
I have no interest in playing blood

>>163151748
Her name is Vania mongolod, I only used Vampy because it was the first thing that came to mind.
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>>163151442
>elana not nerfed

im doneso with this game
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It's actually ヴァンピィ
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>>163151809
>Her name is Vania mongolod
she refers to herself as vampy in japanese, kill yourself retard
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>>163151809
Then why did you tell people to give you blood decks without vampy?
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>>163151637
I can only imagine what the "Damage estimates" are when attempting to play Nephthys.
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>>163151442

So, this means it's open season on dusting stuff?
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>>163151405
>>163151476
t. D-cuck
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>>163151794
>he thinks Idol is anything other than a meme
>calling anyone else a retard
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>>163151903
Likely.

Why would Cygames nerf anything before releasing a shitload of prebuilt decks with the cards that everyone wants nerfed in those decks?
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>>163151867
That's ヴァンピィちゃん to you, 眷属.
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>>163151442
>ranks from previous seasons
Are we getting rank reset now too?
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>>163151887
I wasn't telling people to do anything, it was a rhetorical statement and I was making a point.

>>163151882
Her name is still Vania. Nicknames are a thing.
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>3 5-0s today
Pretty good day.
Only one legendary out of 7 packs so far though.
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>>163151958
This. It's so close to a whole new set of cards too. If they had the intention to nerf anything it would have already been done.
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>>163151794
Albert is a cheaper Imp Lancer / Moon that turns into a turn 9 Genesis Dragon, and you think he isn't good?

Fuck off retard.
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>>163151943
>5pp sticky skullfane
>not making your opponent skip a turn to spend removal or lose in the next 2 turns
move over, Seraph, there's a faster win condition in town
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Reminder that if you play Elana then you should literally kill yourself for playing the most brainless bullshit deck in the game
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>>163152008
see >>163151867

brain damaged dub cuck
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>>163151442
>No nerfs
As expected. Whiners BTFO
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>>163152049
>even more storm for a class that had plenty of it already
>instead of uncucking their shit since otohimeme is dead meat now
you played yourself
enjoy your storm without even a semblance of board control, shitter
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>>163152126
That's not dickshift
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>>163151309
There is no tempo forest.

>tempo
>1/1
Kek
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>>163151442
>Replay function
Fucking yes
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Do you think if we made a petition to nerf Elana, CyGames would listen?
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>>163151701
It's Rage of Bahamut lore related. Basically, Teena and Feena are sisters and mercenaries who take on a job to clear a cave of goblins, and while Teena has some sort of dark past that gives her a reason to hate goblins, Feena just sees it as a job and ends up befriending one (Goblin Mage). Conflict ensues, the player character has to step in, and in the end you resolve everything for everyone and everyone moves on, in typical RoB event fashion.

>>163151767
Agreed, although honestly I think the deck will already be amazing as soon as she's released with Lurching Corpse and Khawy.
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>>163152063
>doesn't work with Divine Birdsong or half of Aria because it pops end of turn and prevents you from using the Storm
>doesn't work with Guardian Sun
>doesn't work with Elana

>>163152153
>somehow even more Storm is bad

You are so stupid.
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>>163152197
No, community based balance is even worse.
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>>163152229
>dark past
Goblins gangbang funtime?
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>>163152153
>memes about Otohime board clears singlehandedly murdering the class while calling Matriarch bad

You're not even keeping your retardation consistent.
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>the monthly award doesnt give take two tickets after 5k points


What the fuck is the point of going higher than 12k points then?
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>>163152197
They wouldn't care in the slightest
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>>163152358
there is none
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Fuck you and your healing train Elana
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I want to hug Cerberus, she has won me so many games!
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>>163152229
I thought Teena and Feena were unrelated and Lucius was the edgy genocide machine of the goblin slayer siblings.
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>>163152358
Sleeves and packs
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>>163152307
no one in their right mind plays blood so there's nothing to fear
>>163152260
>even more storm in a control meta
you are so fucking retarded it hurts
does sword get a spell to ignore wards as well?
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>>163152173
Dshift has to actually worry about getting aggroed down before they can finish their solitaire game

Once Elana gets thrown down the game is already out of reach because next turn you'll start getting outvalued to infinity
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>>163152473
there are no sleeves after 12k
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>>163152426
>garuda
MOOOOOOOM
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Am I the only one who hopes earth rites never becomes good? That deck is not fucking fun to play against.
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>>163152561
Don't worry, they'll be overshadowed by Aggro/Mid Rune
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:^)
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>>163152491
>control meta
>in a game designed around 8-10pp wincons
>thinking people will run lots of wards at the same time you talk about board clears

Truly an incredible display of intellect.
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>>163152561
so you'd rather play against dshit?
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>>163152697
I'd rather Witch be deleted entirely.
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Can Shadow even be considered a legitimate class anymore?
Or is pretty much a glorified stories to tell your friends generator at this point?
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>>163152506
Garura*
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>>163152789
Aggro Shadow is still doing ok right now. Hard to say after the expac.
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>>163152298
I don't think it was ever said exactly what Teena's issues were, she got so mercilessly overshadowed by Feena in popularity that she stopped being in events while Feena got like 7 different cards of herself.

>>163152454
I wanna say all 3 were related, but it's been like 3-4 years at least so it's entirely possible I'm just remembering it wrong.
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>>163152506
>SOON
>>
Leak when?
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>>163152847
inb4 a Centaur, Trooper and Quickblader to ruin your day.
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Does anyone else feel bad about playing Banner Sword or Aggro Bats in ranked?

Since I cant afford anything besides those decks I just avoid ranked and only play T2
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>>163152825
If you call Vania, Vampy
and think that Daria should be, Dorothy
etc. etc.
But then don't call Garuda, Garura

Then you're just a tryhard weeb hypocrite that can't even follow through on everything with your own weeb autism.
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>>163152847
>Turn 8
>Still 2 evos
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Control blood is fun
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>tfw you're one off from lethal with Dshift and your Dshift draw gives you an Angelic Snipe
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>>163153016
yes, control is too fucking expensive and i haven't pulled a lego in weeks despite opening several packs everyday
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This lasted 23 turns, Jesus fucking Christ. He was running Odin.
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Daria should give an evolve back
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>>163153278
>guardian sun
>THREE (3) elanas

either he's retarded or its you
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>>163153239
That's because Cygames, those fiendish merchants, are cheating you! Droprates got lowered, and YOU are the anectdotal proof! Spread the word, don't let them get away with this.
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>>163153213
>tfw you're 8 points away for winning and you have 3 HP left
>Play bloody mary
>Blood pact
>draws Dire bond
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>>163153278
why did he surrender
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>>163152950
Nope,burd won
>>163153060
dunno, maybe it's because unranked
Hate doing dailies in ranked, if i see a bad matchup i just concede this way and usually i lost progress in ranked during dailies too
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>>163153323
daria should have her own doujin
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>>163152649
>every class other than sword got board clears
>thinks sword is anything more than unga bunga this expansion
>implying anyone can win before turn 12 without a nut hand when people start running removal and wards so they dont get shit on by rune and sword
what a cunning linguist
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>>163153278
just c0 things
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>>163153378
I want to FUCK Daria
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>>163152229
How the fuck does someone whose profession is murdering goblins end up befriending one? I know I'd never want to befriend an elf who calls herself "Elfy the Human Hunter" even if she promised to kill humans other than me.
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>>163153323
elana should give wards to follower
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>>163153432
>>163153378
>>163153323
Dorothy
>>
Anyone have an up to date guardian sun/satan haven decklist?
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>>163153345
yes, tell him goyim
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>>163153442

Well I wouldn't want to be friends with any elf regardless of their profession and life choices

REMOVE ELF.
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>>163153338
My second Seraph was at the bottom of my deck, I had no choice but to make the game last that long.

>>163153358
He didn't.

>>163153418
Fuck off
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elana should boost stats by every point healed
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>>163153517
Is that why Erika bullies Arisa so much on Shadowverse Channel?
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>>163153442
You know how mages end up all the time in pretty dodgy "friendly" relationships with devils and monsters and stuff
It's probably like that
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Elana should give followers same buff as Athena every time you heal.
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>download game like a week ago
>start climbing up ranks as shadowcraft with my own deck and just the cards it started me with
>not sure what the fuck i was doing but managed to get d1 after some hours
>look up decks, decide to try swordcraft since it regularly pushed my shit in
>dust everything and make midrange swordcraft deck
>haven't lost since

what the fuck? is this beatable? queen otohime feels cheap as fuck, i feel bad every time i use it and i have 3. Also, is there a higher chance to draw more rare cards from your deck? i regularly get all 3 otohimes almost every game while some of my 1 or 2 pointers are never seen
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>>163153569
Elana should automatically win you the game if you draw it.
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>>163153715
>Wind God

Just D3 things
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>>163153548
>He didn't.
why is eris saying her surrender line then
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>>163153569
It should also cost 1pp so you can weave it in better as a turn 1 play, or alternatively as turn 3 play along with hollowed dogma on your beastcall aria.
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>>163153715
No, literally the deck with the highest amount of preferable matchups right now.
It's getting slapped down a bit in the next expac by giving everyone a nuke button for otomeme
>>
How will the replay function work? Can we share codes like we do with decks?
>>
Why is there so much damn /u/ in this game?
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>>163153795
wind god is good in midsword though
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>>163153715
Well it's rank D, very easy to get out of since you get around 100 points for winning and 20(?) for losing. Those who are in D are either new players, sandbaggers or people who legitimately bad at the game.
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>>163153798
Seraph.
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>Rune now gets to drop a 4/5 and a 10/10 along with a few 4/4's
>on turn 5
Why is this allowed?
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>>163153865
I hope you aren't complaining
>>
does this game have too many removals
>>
>4 match winstreak with hastily shambled together banner deck
>meanwhile tournament meta decks are netting me 50/50
welp
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Holy shit Rowen
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Elana should double stats per heal
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>>163153865
/u/ makes Jap penis tingle and look slightly bigger than normal microversion. Jap likes yuri because that. /u/ sells because Jap like not micropenis with tingle while playing, fucking Jap degenerates>>163153865
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>>163153795
What is wrong with wind god in mid sword?
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>>163154021
why are they crying?
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>>163153795
I've seen a lot of Master players with Wind God in Midrange Sword
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>Playing Aggro Luna
>Bullying Cowtits dshift players
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>>163154054
Kys
>>
Elana should reflect all face damage during the opponent's turn while it's on the field
>>
elana should give spell immunity to followers
>>
elana should auto-concede for the opponent
>>
Elana should reduce the cost of all cards in your hand by 1 per heal
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Those RoB cards. Haven will actually end up killing the game once and for all. Nice blalant bias Cyckgames.
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Elana should search your deck for an amulet ala Prism Priestess
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>>163154123
Because they love each other so much
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Elana should automatically come into play if it's in your deck.
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>>163154123
Because elana isn't getting nerfed.
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>>163152789

I'm doing quite well with shadow, and there's some chink that streams a weird mid-control shadow list in masters sometimes.

It's not blanket strong, but it does all right for itself
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>>163154291
So to Haven mains who have been playing the class since back before DE, how do comments like these make you feel?
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>>163154132
>shadow players have to prey on the solitaire players to feel superior
Sad!
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>1 bronze follower left for Shadow

What do you want it to be?
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>>163154349
this
i like this
this is good
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>>163154123
Cause outside of dshift,they are hardly chosen
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>>163154373
>>163154373
no such thing as haven mains pre-de. only people who play haven occasionally for the meme deck
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>>163154397
2/2/2 LW: Summon a Skeleton
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Is Elana even that good?
I'm trying out a ghetto version and I can't figure out what the fuck to do while you accumulate orbs if you're not playing against sword.
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>>163154349
That's too clunky, you might want more board space.
Instead you should start the game with Elana in play if it's in your opening hand
>>
can someone explain to me what those new cards that summon the trash legendaries are all about

why are they making these
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elana should give spellboost to all your followers
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>>163154373
Love them. They laughed at me before, and that's what they get.
And on the very likely chance some other craft gets a top tier cancer deck with RoB, I'll get to shitpost that much more while still playing great decks.
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Blood control looks fun and spontaneous. I'm thinking of building one, but where does it stand in the current meta?
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>>163154497
Recycling
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>>163154518
>btw i bandwagoned post DE
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>>163154452
Sure, anon!
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50668
you know the drill
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>>163154497
Because it's a neat way to make underpowered legendaries more viable
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>Playing against elana seraph deck using cblood
>he uses countdown twice
>waits a minute, then uses last one to win
and havenshitters wonder why everyone hates them
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>>163154525
Tier 2, I think

My advice is: use a deck you find fun to use, dont pay attention to the meta too much
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>>163154584
thanks healfriend
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>>163154640
>Giving this shit advice
No. If you want to have fun, you grind with T1 decks to masters, then dick around with decks you find fun.
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>>163154397
Grave Digger
2pp - 2/1 - 4/3(evo)
Last Words: Summon a Burial Grounds.
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>>163154470
>start the game with Elana in play
if your curve is even 1pp off, you're gonna get molested by storm haven
and Eris help you if you are going first
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>1 mana destroy a 1 health follower
>OR 8 mana destroy a follower

Who the fuck would run this? You'd only include this in a control shadowdeck, and they're already filled with more than enough removal for any board state to make the flexibility of this trash completely irrelevant.
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>>163154765
>8 mana destroy a follower
You should read that card again friend. Still probably won't see play though.
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>>163154397
A more aggressive 4 drop.
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im surprised there aren't trolls who go into people asking for concedes games and beat their ass

i know i would do this if i was confident i could win
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Does anybody else think that Daria is stupidly overpowered?
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>>163154765
Necromancy (8). It's 1pp 8 shadows.
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>>163154760
please tell me you work at cygames
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>>163154765
Should have been 1 mana destroy 2hp follower.
Would at least make it semi viable.
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>>163154041
seriously, I'm going to hit AA0 in a few hours if this keeps up
this is dumb
there's no point not cheesing through all of A if meta decks don't even work there
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>>163154829

There was someone who once posted that he did that. He got hateposted at.
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>>163154765
>retards in charge of reading
it's necro(8) so you get to remove enemy 13/13 for 1pp and slam your own shit
people bitch on haven for having too much removal but going against shadow as elana is that much more difficult in RoB
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>>163154525
RoB is coming out in like a week so everything's about to change but for now:

>T1
Midsword
Elana/Seraph
Dshift
PtP Elf

>T2
Anything Sword
Control Blood
Aggro Shadow
Storm Haven
Ramp Dragon
Tempo Elf
Pure Elana/Satan or pure Seraph Haven

>T3
Aggro bats
Face Dragon
Dirtrune
Control Shadow

>T4
discard dragon
other memedecks
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>>163154838
easily the best lego of the expansion
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>>163154829
I'm going to make an alt account and join people who want concedes with Elana Haven
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>>163154751
>having fun in your way to masters

Or

>grind like an idiot and then have fun
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>>163154889
>going against shadow as elana is that much more difficult in RoB
RoB Elana-shadow matchup is still going to be horrible for shadow in RoB.
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>>163154947
>Having fun on the way to masters
>Implying grinding with shit decks is """"""""fun""""""""
You're a timmy in Magic, aren't you?
>>
>>163154896
>Ramp Dragon above Face Dragon
>Face Dragon TIER FUCKING 3 ARE YOU KIDDING
>Tempo Elf, possibly the best deck in the game, tier 2.
>Storm Haven tier 2
Where did you come up with such a shitty list?
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>>163154889

>8 shadows to spend on one card
>in a haven matchup

Nice delusion
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>>163154896
aggro blood and control blood should be switched
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>>163154973
good fuck shadow

>le 11 damage from hand ;^)
>le lord of the RNG ;^)
>le nepthys (coming soon)
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>>163154896
>face dragon
>T3
What is your garbage source?
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>>163154896
>DISCARD DRAGONS
>TIER 4
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>>163154896
>>163154525
>>
>>163155023
you cant banish my cards if i kill them first!
>>
>>163155023
>implying haven will bother with banish given all the new cards
>implying you wont have 8 shadows after abusing necroass + lurching to remove 8/8s
D0 shitters not welcome
>>
>>163155095

by crashing into what?

there's only amulets on field in early game usually.
>>
>>163154838
Kind of, it has infinite value depending in what it draws
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>>163155018
He probably found out Control Blood exists today and now it's tier 2 because of one online tournament. His ass of course.
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>>163155068
>gamepress
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>>163155018
Back to /gamepress/ with you shitter
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>>163155068
>elana t3
Do they not play the game?
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>>163155068
that site is horrible mate
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Need a concede

86558
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>>163155162
>Implying it's gamepress that says that
http://game-ai.jp/12306/ ???????
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>>163155172
Gamepress' list is based 100% on ladder winrates and nothing else.
Pure Elana has like a 47% winrate on ladder.
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>>163155172
>kill the minions
wow, it's fucking nothing
Elana is dogshit especially without Seraph
>>
>>163155068
did you just post this unironically?

are you the guy who uses noxxic to look up his talents in WoW?
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>>163155162
dumb arisa poster
>>
>>163155230
Then you realize they don't seraph to get 10/10
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>>163155153
soul conversion
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>>163155212

Thanks lolibat
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>>163155221
and those ladder winrates are a mess

like half of tempo's winrate is PtP that roached people to death or killed them with Tia/AE
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>>163155147
>all the new cards
Literally a single card that prevents banish. Can't even search for that shit reliably.
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>>163155068
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>>163150225

Is this gonna be a machine-gun build?
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>>163154896
Actual fucking tier list coming through. The decks are in no particular order:

>Tier 1
Tempo Forest
Midrange Sword
Elana/Seraph Haven
Storm Haven
PtP Forest

>Tier 2
Control Sword
Banner Sword
DShift (yes tier 2, its match-ups are way too polarizing to be tier 1)
PtP Dirt Rune
Aggro Bats
Control Blood
Face Dragon
Storm Ramp Dragon
Seraph Haven
Aggro Shadow
Control Shadow

>Tier 3
Midrange Shadow
Elana Haven
Dirt Rune

>Tier 4
Meme Decks

>Worst Deck in the Game Tier
PtP Dragon
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>>163154987
I just googled that, lmao

I used to play a blood artist deck back in the day, so idk
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>>163155445
>dshift tier 2
>tempo elf tier 1

are you a time traveller from late october?
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>>163155445
Is this from A0?
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>>163155445
>aggro shadow that high
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>>163155068
>ptp forest
>t3
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>>163150225

>spellboost Daria
>play her turn 4
>you get 2 flamewreath destroyers at 2 mana each, a dshift and sorcery cache
>now you got Dshift combo at turn 6

What have Cygames done
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>>163155446
>Back in the day
>Avacyn Restored
Fuck off, retard.
>>
>>163155445
WHAT DID I TOLD YOU ABOUT FLORAL FENCER'S FACE?
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>>163155506
AA2 with a lot of consideration to Master winrates as well on sites like shadowlog and shit
>>163155502
I don't understand where this Tempo Forest sucks meme is coming from?
>>163155547
Aggro Shadow has a pretty good winrate, it's above 50%. Yeah it gets kind of fucked by Haven but it's pretty damn strong, if Haven weren't around it would still be tier 1 for sure.
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>use the new neutral card that gives you a 13/13 for 5
>drop the 13/13
>Rune drops a duck
>Dshifts
What
Do
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>>163155445
>t. B0
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>>163155623
Right, so just another pointless personal tier list.

The Japs have already figured out the current meta tiers.
>>
New threado:

>>163155653
>>163155653
>>163155653
>>
Reminder that Aggro Shadow only loses to Elana Seraph and actually goes even with Storm Haven.
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>>163155445
>DShift (yes tier 2, its match-ups are way too polarizing to be tier 1)
Nice shit opinion, my man.
Meta matters more than matchups.
Having bad matchups against tier 2-3 decks that have been pushed out of the meta by tier 1 decks is entirely ok if you can counter the decks that people actually play.
Dshift is tier 1 within current meta.
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>>163153795
Silly vampyposter

Most classes can't deal 7 damage easily
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