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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7fkFmOqDPI

>Breach league
https://www.pathofexile.com/breach
>2.5 patch notes
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1773975
>Ascendancy Offline Skill Planner
https://github.com/EmmittJ/PoESkillTree/releases/
>Helpful links
http://pastebin.com/1GThtBUt
>"Hey guys what's the price on this piece of shit item"
http://poe.trade/
>Wiki
http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Path_of_Exile_Wiki
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I want to die
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>Tabula's for shitcrow they said
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>>163123265
Those statistics are misleading and worthless, only 2% of players reach red maps, and you can bet less than 0.1% of those still use a tabula at that point.
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i almost ripped because i started to fart and felt shit coming instead and recoiled in horror

had to slam my logout macro to avoid getting autod to death by some bears
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>>163123404
Retard, these are the top of the ladder people, not the general population.
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gonna roll a bow build for old times sakes

TS or LA?
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>>163123603
>Data in tables below are from 6700 characters for Breach and from 6300 characters for Hardcore Breach (from all TOP15000 account that have unlocked character tab)
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>>163123724
ts always felt like shit to me due to needing +1 chain from deadeye or chain gem to feel as good as la clear
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>>163123724
Both are fine, although LA has the slight edge due to being much easier to gear up. Not many people left crafting good phys harbingers.
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What build do you usually play on a new league. /poeg/?
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>tfw I got the perfect gloves to put me at 96 dex for my lightning coil
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>>163124113

bv or shockwaver
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I want Antalie Napora to fart on my dick and call me rude names
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The Surrender is overrated
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>>163124113
earthquake
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>>163123849
>from all TOP15000
>not the top accounts
???
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>>163124113
shockwave before 2.0, eq now
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>Ranger opens a breach
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snLNPt9H5J4
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>>163124392
TOP15k = BOTTOM15k considering there's like 5k players in hardcore
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So I don't really understand breaches or anything, what do I do if I want a specific breach unique? I'm trying to get an esh one
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>>163124681
stack IIR and start farming a lot of them
or kill the respective shitlord
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what is a good build that can facetank everything with energy shield desu
energy shield just looks cool
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>>163124875
is there anyway to specifically open esh breaches?
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>>163125009
Blade Vortex/Fall/Flurry
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Fucking GGG
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>>163125138
fucking playerbase
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>>163125164
fucking white people
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>>163125164
playerbase isn't responsible for shitty servers
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>>163125359
Yeah, you didn't buy enough stash tabs.
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>>163124113
I played Scorching Ray this league, but I usually go with Siege Ballista or Shockwave Tots
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>>163123404
2% of players reach red maps? i find that hard to believe
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How the fuck do they justify leaving damage of Shock Nova as-is while Flameblast exists?
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>endured 80 levels of essence drain before dying earlier today
>almost all my currency dumped on this one character trying to make it bearable and not as clunky
>it didn't fucking work
>now it's dead and I only have 20c and a sacrificial harvest that won't ever sell to show for my time

I'm killing myself today

I'll fucking do it lads
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>>163125895
Probably not too far off. I've logged more than 1200 hours into the game and only done a handful of red maps. I usually get bored of the character before that point and since I don't have any desire to push the end game shit I just reroll.
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>you will encounter the spirit of a hero in the lord's labyrinth and defeat it

Am I supposed to 100% clear a Merc lab trying to look for an exile or something?
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>>163126435
The prophecy will show up in the top-right in one of the areas. Just search that one area until you find the purple dude.

It usually appears in the very first zone.
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>>163124334
This is the only shield that could be considered over lioneye's remorse on a character that didn't build for aegis and now it's 200c ;_;
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I never really considered ED to be too clunky until I started joining parties for dailies. My damage is comparable, but most people are flying through shit before I can even touch anything.
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>>163126880
ed is a terrible group build
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>corrupt 50+ jewels
>still can't complete challenge
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whats a tanky build thats good for bossing?

i havent played gladiator yet, how is block for something like this?
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>>163127050
I mean even disregarding that I was in a group setting, other builds are probably having an even easier time solo. Makes me feel inadequate.
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/poeg/ why do I keep dying to Traps.

Those fucking things are OP
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Does anyone play PoE in wine or with crossties? stuck with a macbook for a month n trynna get my fix
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how long until they make vaal disc 2x stronger and nerf vaal grace?
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>>163127340

Just roll a whispering ice or flameblast selfcast/totem

Levelling is mostly painless and you can do guardians and shaper easily without obscene investment
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>>163127430
you are SHIT at the game
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>>163127059
how many corruptions did you hit though?

i hit four of them with ~20 vaal orbs, this could get expensive..
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>>163127438
I should say I am having trouble with both. Wine version has insanely bad flickers, and the crosstie version quits at installer and says 'bad allocation'
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>>163127589
i'm at 7/10
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dumb question. How do I get the flasks above sanctified? I can't vendor upgrade them anymore
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>>163127132
Block is pretty bad for most bosses, since they deal heavy damage in few hits, against which block is vulnerable to. If something hits you for 8k damage rather than 8*1k damage, you want to play as if you had 0% block.
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>>163127480

Fuck off Vaal grace is balanced. It's the only way I can survive breaches in red maps

>>163127589
>>163127059

Can u get unique corrupted jewels from regular jewels or do you have to corrupt unique
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>>163126025
>I'm killing myself today
But you just did.
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>>163127729

what are the best forms of damage mitigation for endgame then, curses and leech?
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>>163127438
bootcamp it

>>163127720
vendor / drops?

>>163127734
vgrace is balanced but mostly associated with life builds, which are seen as "too OP" in GGG's headquarters
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>>163127816
Curses are pretty garbage vs bosses right now, good damage and leech is still king, good avoidance like block/dodge is situationally good
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>>163127729

block isnt supposed to be your ONLY form of defense

>>163127816

curses or leech alone wont save you. you need to layer them with something else always
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>>163127884
Are you asking a question?
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>>163127720
All flasks above sanctified come as drops only. No vendor recipe
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>>163127983
>>163128057
any recommendations for a build that exemplifies some of these?
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>>163128103
Thanks
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Why is Arc so fucking shit?Chain support also fucking sucks which makes it even worse because it cannot be used to boost its damage.
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>>163128068

im replying you with a question. i have tried upgrading flasks in ages because i normally just grab them from the floor or vendors
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first of all arc isn't shit, you are
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how dare you speak to me like that
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>>163128220

for example, right now im running a melee-range life caster char that uses enfeeble, fortify (via shield charge), armor via flasks (212% scaling on tree), basalt flask and when things get dicey or on bosses, vaal grace

plus my shield is a saffels
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>>163128057
>block isnt supposed to be your ONLY form of defense
No, but unlike other forms of defense, it requires heavy gear/passive investment. Pretty much anyone with 155 INT can use L20 Enfeeble. Going max block is not only a costly build decision, it falls apart against actual dangerous content you can't block and you have gimped damage and a useless defense as a result against those bosses.
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>trading with someone
>afterwards they just leave the group without saying a word, not even a "t4t"

rude!
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>you will defeat soulmourn
wat
>Soulmourn is a unique statue located in the fellshrine ruins
wat

Pretty sure I've never seen it before. Is it always in the same place?
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>>163128781
i honestly hate that, if i could, i'd take the item back because of that
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>>163129116
no
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>>163129116
its literally the area """""""boss"""""

its a statue with yellow charges
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>>163128660

i think GGG doesnt intend for most people to get max block and just use it as another layer for 40-50% block

even if some builds can cap it with relative ease (necro variants)
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>>163128331
How is it not shit?
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>Tfw playing max block and have no damage, armor, evasion, and not even 6k life
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>>163128220
For a brief intro into 'how to block with life/es hybrid', just look at the gladiator forum.

Block itself is not great, but with the 100% spellblock from Gladiator, it becomes pretty good.
Combine with evasion to reduce the chances to ever get hit twice in a row ba boss, and armor plus enough life and ES to survive normla hits and not die to unblockable AoE things, anad it works.

But it is not cheap, and most certainly not the best or fastest way to play.
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I remember wanting to make a Cold Snap build a couple leagues back but the only one that sounded interesting or viable required an Aylardex.
Lo and behold I came across one now and wish to recreate said build but I can't remember where I saw it so if anyone could lend me a hand on how to build around those two things or point me in a direction that'd be helpful.
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>>163129682
>the gladiator forum.
I meant Duellist.
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Even having like 10 stash tabs is a pain to use. I can't imagine using so many more
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>>163130645
i made the mistake of splurging every time they had a sale

i've been playing for four years and have 55 tabs
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>>163130885
It would be nice if they could stack or something. It's annoying hitting the over arrow just for one tab. Can you even scroll through them? meh
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>>163130968
No. It's why most decent players have stash tab names like 'M' for maps or 'F' for flasks. Making them any longer makes it frustrating as shit to scroll through them.
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>>163055840
>free
>>163061701
>free
>>163062423
>free
>>163063105
>free
>>163072681
>free
>>163095282
>FREE
>>163098231
>free
>>163110270
>FREE
>>163119498
>free
>>163119680
>free
>>163121136
>free
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>>163130968
4x Premium to Quad Premium when?
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>>163132230
Oy vey, Goyim, you expect too much! Programming constraints! We can't do that!

You had better just buy a quad tab bundle and be done with it, eh Goyim?
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>>163127734
You can corrupt any jewel. I usually keep them even if they fail so I can trade in 5 for another to corrupt. It is probably pure RNG but the cobalt ones were a bitch to corrupt for me (I had like 8 Brittle Barrier). I bought a fuckton of Vaals and used like 40 or so, and now I have 40 left ...
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Without a Xoph amulet, should I go zerker and get the avatar of fire, or go raider so i can go REALLY fast?

ugh i'm so indecisive
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>>163131167
Yeah but don't you have to have long ass names on tabs to have it price every item in there as something. Like I can't have it be 1c it has to be
"-b/o 1 chaos"
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>>163132604

it depends entirely of what build you are doing

avatar of fire isnt desirable on all builds.
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wtf I love gemcutter strongboxes now
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>>163132604
get a xophs amy they're only like 1 ex
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I'm gonna play a frost blades raider from the forum
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>>163133340
Frost blades is incredibly not-fun
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Did you guys buy a special stash tab bundle?

finding it hard to justify without a button on your inventory that auto places currency, essences, and div cards into their respective tabs without having to hunt for a billion sub-categories.
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>>163133340
Are you using the mirage weapon?
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>>163133415
Perfect

>>163133537
Yes
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>>163133474
I am gonna get one I think. That + currency. It's gonna be on sale until the 10th of jan so you can be patient
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>>163133596
Strike that, a mainhand Ewar's Frostblades character is slightly below average fun. I played a little bit of that before transitioning to WS and subsequently scrapping the character entirely
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>>163133474
no

never
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>>163133596
Do you get an extra projectile and the chain if you dual wield or does it only count the weapon the attack comes from?
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Pla
yer

Inte
raction
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>>163133837
Have you tried messaging the players selling it for 1c? you fucking jewish rat.
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>>163133837
red

dit
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Are breach rings a meme? I've never seen one that's even worth a scroll of wisdom
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>>163133928
They have potential, but obviously the rolls are really rare.
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>>163133928
A high WED roll or physical attack damage roll (along with some life or ES) makes them worthwhile I've found. As always make sure your reses are capped
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>>163134071
res on breach rings is garbage though since the doubling does nothing.
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>>163133928
I'm using a 75 life 20 IIR one
150 life and 40 IIR in breaches is pretty good, netted me a few breach uniques so far
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>>163134147
That's what I meant. Make sure your resistances are capped before scrapping a ring slot for more damage.
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is chaos res really needed to be capped too?
I can't find it on shit
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>>163133698
Damn

>>163133770
You get both
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>>163134147
>since the doubling does nothing.
there are several breach uniques that give bonuses based on uncapped resistances, 40% res doubled to 80% becomes a substantial bonus for those

obviously niche but not always useless
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>>163134349
That seems kind of fun then.
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>brew some new shitbuilds for BHC
>max evasion Flicker Strike in with Acro, Perfect Form and Dreamfeather
>mfw when I'll probably try that

That's it, I'm insane. Somebody please kill me to end this suffering of brewing shitbuilds with no future.

Anyone else suffering from severe build autism?
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>>163134334
I would recommend getting some but you don't need to get up to 75%
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>>163134147
>>163134269
They are meant to be used with the new unique amulets that scale with (way) overcapped resists
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>>163134447
I want to play flicker but I just know I'll kill myself on a volatile one day and the thought of that is enough to keep me away
>Tfw not insane
;_;
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>>163134350
>>163134504
No one actually uses those though.
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>>163134447
It's shit not so much because of the theorycrafting, but moreso because you'll never get a 6L version of the chest unless you have thousands of fuses to link it yourself so at best you limit yourself to a 5L
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>>163134447
i used to

but i found a few gimmicks i like and now i usually build around them
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>>163134596
Huh, vspark babbies use the Esh amulet. So much F R E E crit from a single gear slot is invaluable.
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What defensive CwtD I can use if want to keep my endurance charges and AA already creates chilled ground?
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How do I make a oro's flicker build that won't explode from 1-hit from any boss above t7?
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>>163134720
AA is pretty unreliable for the chill, that being said your question is too vague to be answered without knowing your build, good generic trigger gems are Vortex (especially if you have AoE), Tempest Shield if you use a shield, a chaos golem, or even Phase Run if you play something non spammy like totems
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>>163134720
molten shell? iono
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>>163135062
fucking finns
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>>163134904
>>163135041
Molten Shell and Phase Run would work pretty well, thanks.
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you never saw this
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>>163124113

Anything new, I never play the same thing twice.
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>>163135289
Oh shi
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>Want to bind space to an action to save mouse clicks
>can't type anymore

god damn it, any work around in ahk to disable script when typing manually or am I going to have to nigger rig something with pixel detection?

does GGG detect this behavior and ban?
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>>163124113

Does anyone know if that vod still exists and what it was? Needs to be updated to webm.
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>Want to level a Ngamahu Slayer
>Remember that doing so would involve going through cruel A4 again

No
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>>163135540
Why slayer over raider?
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>>163135427

I have space bound attack in place and I can type just fine :^)

>>163135540

>boohoo I have to breeze through cruel with 2h melee with op as fuck leveling uniques that trivialize everything in my path

yeah what a bummer
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>>163134447
No I love unconventional builds and exclusively play my own handmade ones based on what sounds fun.
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>>163134447

I'm 91 on an eva acro melee range point blank chin sol shrapnel shot slayer without any issue

I make shit like this every league based on whatever sounds fun/something I haven't done and I always get 90+.

If you aren't retarded you can make a lot of shit work well enough.
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>>163135626
Not him, but probably for the greater AoE, damage, and survivability. Raider is only good for going fast.
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>>163135540
>slayer

why
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>>163135646
Yeah but I am using an AHK script to do it because you can't bind a secondary key. I want LMbutton bound to both space and left mouse.
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>someone pms me they want to buy silver coins
>they come to my hideout
>ask them how many they want
>They just stand there and never say anything
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>>163123224
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>>163135919
How do you manage to get into melee range, mechanically positioning yourself all the time seems annoying.
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do you think it's worth tossing vaal haste in a link with my cwdt or is that retarded.

I don't have much else to put there atm
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any point to berzerker over raider for a ngamahu build?


seems like raider is better overall for going fast as fuck, more frenzy charges almost beat out the 40% more damage from Zerker. though zerker would have a way easier time getting more HP


>>163136202 ya why not. got an inc duration in there?
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>>163135626
Muh AoE
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>>163136123

>run into the front of a pack, shoot
>blink arrow in the front of a pack, shoot
>spin around on the spot if shit isn't all infront of me
>HoA overkill prolif burns shit I missed down

not hard
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Sunder Berserker using Kaom's Primacy, Kaom's Heart, Kaom's Roots and 2x Kaom's sign

vs

Lacerate Gladiator using Daresso's Passion, Daresso's Defiance, Daresso's Defiance and Perseverance

who wins in a duel to the death?
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>>163136247
Yeah. It is like my defensive thing I had in 4 slots but now I got 5 slot armor and cbf putting single target shit in it. So it's cwdt, molten, shell, immortal call, increased duration, and now vaal haste
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>>163136286
GGG should add a game option to pit 2 bosses against each other once you reach level 100 or something, should be fun with some gambling involved.
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>>163135626
Not sure. On paper, it looks like it has more damage for less effort, and a lot more survivability.

Sell me on Raider over Slayer, though
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10,000 map tiers is really a lot

It didn't really sink in how many that is until now
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>>163136826
hardly even played this weekend because of chris's servers
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>>163136826
not really, especially if you go for the grindy challenges. and you can bruteforce it by spamming t5s you can complete in 1 minute for example, that's 60*5 = 300 map tiers per hour assuming an infinite amount of t5s, which isn't that far off from reality when you have an existing map pool
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>>163137029
>t5s you can complete in 1 minute
Jesus fuck. What are you playing that you can even get to the boss in that time?
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>>163134447
Anything with evasion isn't going to kill breachlords in hardcore. Because you're taking life. And you can't get enough life to counter the 45.000+ DPS breachlords get when they get to 30% hp.

On top of this life is just complete garbage at the moment, you can easily get 5-6k ES more than life. And that is without vaal discipline! With Vaal discipline ES has over 2x more life!

I wonder what the balance team is smoking. Put a recreation of Alkaizer's character into the breachlords and it would get raped. Meanwhile put a generic blade vortex 15k ES build in there and the Breachlord gets raped in a second.
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>>163137114
is this sarcasm? you use a movement skill to run to the boss and kill it for +5 to the map tier counter, essentially ignoring all the rest of the map, of course this only works with expendable white maps, but it's better to "waste" 2xt5s than 1xt10
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>>163137029

>infinite t15s
>1minute clears
>zero downtime at all
>still takes 33 hours

haha epic :^)

>>163137169

Plenty of life builds kill the breach lords you fucking spastic, nugi was farming them on eva dreamfeather build a week ago.
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>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tn2rlm2Hq4Q
>we added immunities because double dipping makes ignite and poison broken
is double dipping as bad as snapshotting?
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>>163137169
Do you speak from experience or are you just another idiot pulling shit out of his ass? Xoph, Esh and to a lesser degree Tul are all very doable for a life build. Certainly not gated behind the magical 15k ES CI VP build or only 1% of the playerbase would have completed the related challenge by now.
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>>163127480
Dno Vaal Ground slam builds are a little OP maybe ask Chris to nerf em

http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Vaal_Ground_Slam

2.1: Vaal Ground Slam now requires 50% more souls per use, and can only store three uses. The area of effect radius bonus has been reduced from 30% to 20%.
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>>163137319
I haven't been able to watch that yet, but if your quote is true, why the fuck wouldn't they fix double dipping instead?
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>>163137305
it's a grind, not sure what your point is, 30 hours is nothing special over a 3 month league and t5s maps are worth like 1 alch each, there's no downtime because you ignore 99% of the content of the map and just go straight to the boss, slaughter it in 2 seconds, pick up loot and rinse and repeat
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>cyclone life/armor is 1 shot prone and needs BIS gear
>CI pizza sticks has no way to regen ES outside of a vaal disc every so often and gets no mitigation for physical damage
>CI VP whispering ice leech builds are expensive as fuck needing a baseline 15ex 700+ ES roll chest and a bunch of other rigid stats

Why won't the CI meta die?
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>>163137434
Requires a complete refactor of the damage mechanics.

Likely will happen the same time they remove "dot" and "secondary" as types entirely, leaving everything as either "attack" or "spell" (whether they deal damage in hits or over time and also buffing block indirectly).
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>>163137372
Yes only doable if you abuse bleed poison and kite like an idiot because life has no way to deal with the damage increases at 30% of the breachlords HP.

I'd say majority right now play ES, life is a noobtrap.

>>163137305
Enjoy playing with your suboptimal garbage build.
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>>163137434
He says it in the first minute or two. I honestly have no idea why they don't just nuke double dipping from orbit. It's literally the same shit that goes with damage over time spells, there's no reason why poison and ignite should behave differently.
>2.5.1 - Ignite and Poison no longer benefit from damage modifiers beyond what the damage that applied them does.
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>>163137575
Cyclone life builds can easily reach 8-9k life, show me the list of bosses that can "one-shot" 8-9k life, people die to burst damage, not "one-shots"
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>>163137575
>baseline 15ex chest

doubt
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>>163127546
not him but what can I do in place of astramentis
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>>163137698
>>2.5.1 - Ignite and Poison no longer benefit from damage modifiers beyond what the damage that applied them does.
Sounds pretty stupid. Fire damage double dipping on ignite is what makes it desirable over spell damage, merging the two is... bland. Similarly, chaos damage no longer double dipping on poison would mean that going phys would typically be the much better choice, reducing build diversity even further. Any suggestion you come up with would also need to be intuitively understandable, fire damage increases a fire hit and also increases burning damage from ignite, this is intuitive and expected.
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>>163138091
rare ammy with lots of int
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>>163138110
>reducing build diversity even further.
stopped reading right here
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>>163137383
That was a direct response to somebody making a VGS build that actually functioned.
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>>163138110
>double dipping is problematic
>removing double dipping makes it behave the same as other types of damage
well, yes. that's usually how this shit goes. double dipping means you get quadratic growth instead of linear growth. that's really fucking good. but if we just tell everyone to be good little children and not abuse it too much it'll stop restricting their design space?
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>>163137698
I'd take Double Dipping out behind the shed if I were in charge, but then I'd also remove Ghost Reaver, so maybe I'm a little on the extreme end of the scale.
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>>163137575
> what is ghost reaver
> what is Zealoth's Oath.
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>>163138487
>remove ghost reaver

really dude
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>>163138375
At the same time in 2.1 you had vspark that everyone was using because you could get lv 100 in 3 days.

I'm convinced the balance team makes some skills super garbage on purpose. For what reason I don't know.
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>>163138553
*totem pizza sticks
totems don't regen shit for me
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Adding to the 2.5.1 wishlist
>Ghost Reaver now gives 85% less recharge speed
>Ghost reaver had no downside like keystones of comparable power. Now, similar to Vaal Pact, it trades off safety for a greater reward for being in combat.
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>>163138487
Ghost reaver is not the problem, retard.
Vaal Pact is and until GGG changes it will continue to be the main problem.

Ghost Reaver without vp is just normal leech.
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>>163137319
>>163137434
The real problem with ignite is at the moment with emberwake setup you can make it so you get 60x normal damage, which is ridiculous.

Poison and bleed have been broken ever since GGG decided to rework how poison and chaos damage worked. They're still a bit blind to see that their change caused poison to be quite ridiculous.

3 strongest things in the game would have to be ES, poison/bleed and ignite.
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>>163138485
Why would any fire spellcaster use a scepter over a wand if that was the case? The difference between spell damage not double dipping and fire damage double dipping for ignite is what creates difference in regular spellcaster builds and ignite builds, the more you homogenize things, the less itemization becomes interesting.
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>>163139153
Diversity isn't a good reason to keep shit like that in the game when having it in there limits diversity since it makes double dipping way too good.
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>>163138971
emberwake is a shitty meme, no one has time or effort to spend stacking 300 ignites that deal no damage, one strong ignite from flameblast or cold2fire vortex already deals something upwards of 1 million damage, just stack enough grand spectrums and you can basically one-shot every shaper phase
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>>163139153
No if one thing is too good it limits itemization + build diversity. It makes the game a snorefest because no difficulty whatsoever if the developers wouldn't balance around the strengths of those builds. But if they would balance around the strengths of those builds, almost every other build is unplayable.
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>>163139153
First the broken mechanic is fixed (no double dipping)
Then the game is rebalanced to accomodate the new mechanics (fire damage on scepters buffed to compensate for being more specific)
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>>163139153
Same reason you'd use a jewel that has %damage with fire skills over global %damage. Specialization gives more numbers.

What's not okay is the fact that right now, 1% fire damage is actually x^1.01 instead of x*1.01. You get quadratic growth instead of linear growth, and that's unbalanceable. 1% should be 1%, no matter where it comes from.

Build diversity is not a reason to have a mechanic which inherently violates the way the game should function. All % damage should be equal, and it is EXCEPT for double dipping. This is wrong.
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>get twice enchanted
>uber is easy today

Time to get disappointed twice as much by shitty helm enchants
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>>163134605
thousands of fusings to link it

tfw (you) haven't gotten out of dried lake
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>>163135198
molten shell is pretty sweet , i wouldn't bother with phase run if i were you, it needs to be the last link in the chain for it to not be deactivated, and even if cwdt procs it the chances of you not attacking and canceling it are pretty slim, unless you are using a skill that doesn't require a lot of apm like totems, or some summoner build
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>>163138091
WTF happened to astramentis prices? They were 60-80 earlier this week. I should have farmed faster.
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>>163140467

More people are reaching the level to use it then ever before so there is more demand.

Price goes up when there is higher demand.
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>>163139153
Diversity is a shitty argument when the mechanic in question unnaturally skews things in favour of one or two specific mechanics. Fuck outta here with that.
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>>163137596
wtf is with this es meme since breach, does reddit have that much of an influence on poeg/ no one with any knowledge of the game has a problem with breach. can you get 1shit , yes you can, is energy shield somehow immune to that? no it's not. GGG are not going to buff life, ES isn't broken, learn how to mitigate damage physical AND elemental and you will be fine, if you are that fucked up over them drop unique flasks for ele res flasks for the fight.
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What builds use Rearguard instead of Drillneck or a rare quiver?
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http://poetools.com/uniques/

Such variety
Much uniqueness
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>>163140676
EA
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>>163137843
750 es 5link chests are like 80-100c on bhc, and like 30c in sc of course whispering ice, so you don't even need a 5link.
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>>163140730
Almost as if there's only a handful of good unique chests and those statistics don't take into account the majority of players using rare chests...
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>>163138843
whats the problem with vaal pact?
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>>163140730

>wearing the same chests means builds are the same
>only shows uniques

such stupidity
much retardation
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>>163140912
i would like to see the builds using the death's oath :4)
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>>163140787
You need a high int roll on them for good whispering ice tri-curse builds.
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>>163140892
It's too good.
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>>163140787
high int 700+ es chests are ridiculously expensive at the moment
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>>163141072
>>163141205

115c for a 5link regalia 730es 43 int. thats pretty reasonable.

of course you could drop the 5 link and 10 int points and save yourself 50c , invest some of that into a jewel with int and cold/area dmg
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>>163141205
do you REALLY need high int? surely you can take the damage hit and be able to farm safer with higher es until you can craft/buy a better one
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>>163141045
It's a noob trap in reference to its creator
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>>163126025
Why the fuck would you waste your currency on a build you don't even like?
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>>163141205
>buy ilvl 75+ vaal regalia
>scour
>spend like 500 alts to get t1 flat +es and good int suffix
>regal
>mastercraft +%es
Good enough
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>>163142426
You need 1 good resist 33%+ too most builds use lots of uniques like astra
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>>163142357
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Escalation_of_commitment
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just hit level 70. going into normal lab for the first time, wish me luck bois
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is there a way to change UI font size or UI size in general?

its too hard to read on my monitor
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>>163142772
Good luck anon
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>>163142772
hope you die to a buzzsaw
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>>163143172
ty
>>163143214
kek i almost did

too much uber with jugg forgot what it was like
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Right now I have eq +melee phys+less dur+added fire on my marohi erqi. Anything better I should switch there?
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>>163143537
sounds good anon.
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>>163142776
in options there's a tab called UI
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>>163143693
Thanks. You think it's more important to upgrade my other shit gear or try to get a 6 socket 5+L
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>>163143776
get good life on every piece, get res capped and then focus on getting a 5/6l then a better weapon
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Youd think the inventory in PoE would help me out in different games but it clearly didn't help at all
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>>163143805
What other maces are better for eq? I saw some other neat weapons, but post of my passives are already in mace shit
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>>163143838
wut game
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>spent nearly $2000 on a new desktop a month ago
>still drop frames like crazy playing Flameblast Totem
How shittily did they code this game, god damn
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>>163143937
Zero Time Dilemma, stuck at this for 20 minutes
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>>163143950
The real meme is spending 2k on a pc
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>>163143919
axes in my opinion are better than maces for eq

after marohi you'd be looking at high dps rares

axes you can go hezmana for blood magic on attacks which lets you possibly another aura (hatred, hoa, and arctic armor is my setup at the start of a league)
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>>163144071
Actually looking at my build I think I could unspec out of maces and go axes. It's just that one cluster that is maces, right? I can't remember.
I'm still only partway through merciless
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How do you guys justify playing a shitty knockoff of Titan Quest?
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>>163143997
unless there's something special about the blue and red xs, this took me like 2 minutes to do if you don't count the time I spent reconstructing a blank grid.
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>>163144517

thatd be Grim Downs

poe is a korean d2 clone
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>>163144567
Red x's are the pivot points and you cant touch the blue x's
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In HC Breach, is Molten strike Maraudrrn Viable? Never used the skill or class before and now I'm having a Blast.
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pretty sure im single-handedly keeping tabula and golrdrim prices up because i keep ripping.

are there any truly retard proof builds out there? i've got about 25c left to spend.
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I did it, guys. I saved her. :'(

What is she going to say to me?
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>>163144892
She's going to say your waifu is shit
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I may have a problem letting go of uniques I find
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>>163144892
"No one cared who I was till I put on the mask."
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>>163144985
I have this problem
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>>163143838
>>163144567
>http://zeroescape.wikia.com/wiki/Trash_Disposal_Room
>This minigame requires the player to sort all the tools in the toolbox, so that they all fit within it. The blue X marks on all the tools must also touch a red X mark as well. If using the PC version with a controller, you must click with a mouse to rotate. Touching the tools on the 3DS and Vita versions allow you to rotate them.
>The blue X marks on all the tools must also touch a red X mark as well.
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>>163144985
*double dips fedora*
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>>163145065
But I already tried that before, god damn it. Might as well cheat this one and see the solution
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>>163144868
ED Scion
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>>163145232
Is this a new meme? Why do I keep hearing ED scion?
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>>163140628
Point being?

ES can also use flasks .....

It's obvious that life is a cripple when it comes to actually bossing. Only life build that can safely boss that I can think of is ancestral warchief because it does ridiculous damage (and thus allows you to skip the fight mechanics entirely).
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>>163144773
molten strike has always been good, just never very popular.
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What the fuck is the point of a remnant of corruption?
Why the fuck is the wiki so terrible?
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>>163144953
But but she is my waifu...

>>163144990
I fell in love the second time we met. When she called out to me and then frolicked away and summoned a giant wall of spikes between us.
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>>163145301
I'm a shit player and that's the build I play every league with moderate success, so that's what I'd recommend as well whenever someone asks for a "retard proof" build
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>>163140628
>reddit

Those are the people letting Izaro get 15 power charges and then wonder why they get oneshotted

https://www.reddit.com/r/pathofexile/comments/4nm1t0/izaro_is_unfair_for_certain_buildmechanics/

.__.'
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>>163145190
Well obviously you didn't, otherwise you would have won.

Spoilers: similar puzzle solved via poor paint skills.
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>>361112242
>make a game heavily focused on trading through absolute shit loot droprates
>make a garbage d2 tier trading system
>third party website makes an attempt at making it slightly less cancer
>immediately seize the opportunity and implement a paywall for everyone who wants to sell items on said website
also
>have a dedicated part of "gamedesigners" whose only task is to come up with new ideas of filling players stash tabs to make them buy more
also
>gem linking system that was supposed to change the way your skills work turned into a " active gem + x1.5 dmg + x1.5 dmg + x1.5 dmg + x1.5 dmg + x1.5 dmg", wow such creativity, much choice
>"doubledipping" being broken for almost a year now and no fix on horizon
>build variety is the biggest meme
>melee is dead
also
>every new season must have epic new and flashy content to show off on gamejournalism websites
>game turns into unbalanced pile of shit, that gets sprinkled with confetti every season, which turns to same shit by the beginning of the next one
>said "fresh new content" is a fail design with no substance that gets cleared within a week and the game dies again for 3 months.
>developers said they dont care about making gameplay good again and their idea now is to make a game you play while watching TV, literally.
dont recommend this Pile of Excrements to anyone
it all went wrong soon after release and has been getting progressively worse with every patch... unless you are a ggg dickriding redditor who likes brainless grind and big dps numbers
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>>163145497
fucking kek " full hp of 5890"

i seriously think that some people don't know the difference between physical and elemental damage, half the threads on reddit about breaches are 'i have 20k armour, and am dying in breaches, wtf broken'. and yeah you are not getting a full key run against a charged izaro unless you are fast and ranged, even then good luck
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>>163145835
dunno who you are replying to but dont expect people to be triggered with your post. its about the exact same things we've argued for like 5 years
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Should I go bow for +3 and soulstrike meme for my FB totems or dagger shield for fort and more crit. Help me decide poptarts
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>tfw I run around entire zone and can't find waypoint
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>>163145835


>>season

poe has leagues

>>cleared within a week and the game dies again for 3 months

leagues last 3 months and then a new one starts.
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>>163145367
How is it comparef to Earthquake?
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>>163144985
just give them to me
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How much nicer is having a premium quad compared to just regular tabs? Looking at adding tabs and wondering if the sale is worth it
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just to let everyone in on the secret, they are going to be buffing chyaula breaches pretty soon, probably all breaches. sell your shards while the price is high.
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Let me just get this straight though. Blade vortex double dips the 30% more damage per blade on poison meaning that instead of dealing 8% of hit-damage per second it instead does 56% of hit-damage per second at 20 stacks?

If, for instance, I were to be a blade vortex assassin and took Toxic Delivery: deal 100% more damage on critical hit with poison, then this would double the double dip on critical hit, right?

Does that not seem pretty okay?
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Why are breaches designed so shit?
>"throw a billion guys at them so they can't see what's going on 99% of the time"
>"What should they drop?"
>"Just make them drop splinters, some item that players won't have a chance to use or understand until the absolute end of content"
>"Oh, by the way, since I know you can't code for shit, just make them spawn in before the breach boundary actually extends to where they are, so players will just get hit by invisible guys"
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hey, there she is again!
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>>163146305
Dont do it
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>>163146553
You forgot:
>"But what attack should the mobs use?"
>"Puncture of course. We have to make sure no one ever plays this game without being immune to bleed. Because fuck build diversity."
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>>163146624
Oh, I've got a juicy organ for you, Piety.
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>>163145993
bow and soulstrike!
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>>163146163
Every melee skill is shit compared to earthquake except for bladeflurry.
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>>163146365
Blade vortex is a spell.
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>9 different red maps atlas unlocked
>more attainable through linked lines
>all I ever get are bazaars
>the worst red map

someone fucking save me from this hell
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>>163146689
Yeah, rolling bleed immunity on your stibnite flask really limits build diversity.
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>>163147112
Lemme just quote the ascendancy though.

>Poison you inflict with Critical Strikes deals 100% more Damage.

It doesn't say 'attack' in there.
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>>163144773
Molten Strike with Ngamahu's Flame is some crazy shit.
110% fire conversion without passives or other gear, free 20% penetration, extra molten strike bursts.

Go Chieftain with a Searing Ray totem, why not.
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Has anyone developed an app to replace durian yet?

Tired of having 10 tabs open with searches running.
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>>163147385
Is using two ascendency points really worth it? Probably yes since poison is broken as shit.
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Killing those three dudes for Piety was kinda hot.
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>>163147876
I'm so sorry.
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>>163145835
>>163146143
After PoE had done like 3 leagues regular hardcore was pretty much dying out and now its just a deadzone nobody wants to play in.

The game is doing a horrid job at controlling the best builds, previously GGG would nerf and try to fix imbalances more (like life / ES) but GGG has had a passive stance ever since 2.1. Lots of people complained about 2.0 because ''hurr casters are soo weak right now you need to go armor or lightning coil due to no phys immunity through immortal call anymore'' (yep caster were a magnitude more overpowered in 1.x).
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>>163146553
The spawn implementation is a very specific and more difficult one though. Likely that entire thing cost them more than the rest which is just re using old effects.

Still miles better though than invasion were they did remodels that randomly appeared and oneshot you.
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>>163146962
How do you actually get a lot of DPS on earthquake with just a marohi erqi 5 linked?

I'm sitting atm at 7.2k hp and only 14k tooltip on earthquake with hatred on me. It feels so slow on bossing, and probably later on at t12+ I feel like I have to switch skills since it does low damage on bosses. The clearspeed is decent and I like how it works but I would've liked it if I could somehow get the damage higher.
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>>163147876
>those hamburger legs and burn victim tits
yea nah
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>>163148349
You get a lot of DPS once you realise that marohi erqi is just a early game crutch that helps eq a lot early on but falls off later. Many people just ignore attackspeed on earthquake for some reason.
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>>163147738
Well, most of your damage is already the poison even ignoring all 'damage' and 'area damage' modifiers which would double dip. And if you're critting every 19 out of 20 hits you would at the very minimum be dealing 50% more damage if you're counting mean damage per second after two seconds.

Those two ascendancy points would also get you maiming all enemies, which is 'on hit' rather than 'on attack', 30% increased skill duration after recent kill, 30% crit chance, 30% damage over time increase, 10% reduced damage taken over time, and if it was feasible to have a puncture setup you could also have 20% extra chaos damage to bosses if you threw down a puncture trap.

The alternative assassin would have 30% crit multi and culling strike as well as guaranteed 100~% crit chance against full health or low life enemies.

I think the only problem is whether the phrasing of Toxic Delivery matches the actual coding.
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ITT neets getting triggered anytime someone spends $5 towards some stash tabs for a game they play a lot
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wtf I love IIR now
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P-Piety, wake up.

;_;
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>>163148510
Maiming is on hit with an attack. Or did it get changed recently?
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>>163148829
I must've misread it. My bad.
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>>163148738
Anon, A5 isn't out yet :^)
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>>163148728
>finally bought my binos this league
>Can stop using my crutch Motdk
>On the first map I run with my new binos I find two chaos orbs and a starkonja's
Jesus christ, playing the game actually feels smooth again, this is so nice.
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>>163148960
Forgot to mention the starkonja's had a perfect life roll, too. I'm having great luck tonight.
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>try to make flameblast Inquisitor
>fuck up passive tree
>very much hoping consecrated ground buffs are worth not being elementalist

If this shit works out, I'll deal fucking ridiculous damage on crits and crit all the time while healing and casting fast as fuck. Or I'm going to RIP constantly. Its so far looking like the latter.
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>>163148738
>ywn impale Piety with your big ass spear
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>>163149213
Nothing beats FREE prolif on breaches.
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>>163149213
I'm pretty sure inquisitor spellcasters go in for crit. The consecrated ground thing is for attack inquisitors and righteous fire, or that's what I always assumed.
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>>163147487
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>>163149384
FREE immunity to elemental effects are great for Breaches
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>run nice corrupted
>estuary
>high gardens
>beacon
>sulfur wastes
>volcano
>no red returns
>out of red maps

if I get another t5-6 only in a good red map I'll probably kill myself
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>>163149612
Just roll immunites on your flasks you nerd.
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>>163149384
That is actually my biggest worry in terms of raw damage, as my 6 link is basically an elementalists 5 link unless I really want to spend time swapping gems constantly. I might go cast on channel, firestorm. Would be interesting to see if I can get greater damage against bosses that way, and I've been using that set up to level so far.

>>163149471
I am getting both crit (2 nodes) and consecrated ground (2 nodes). My thought process is that flameblast has a decent channel time that I will likely be standing in consecrated ground in, so the buff should be up fairly often against bosses. I'm also grabbing a shit ton of crit in the passive tree for the 2 crit nodes. Otherwise Inquisitor is a bust as the elemental augury aura is the only other node worth having so Elementalist is the clear winner.
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Thinking about playing the new league but haven't paid any attention to updates since 2.3

Is frozen crit arc Templar still a thing?
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>>163149731
Just instantly kill all mobs as they come out geek
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Spooked me. Pulled him in from off screen.
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Wild strike is cool
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>>163149728

this is why i roll a high iir+iiq league starter

map drop rates in reds becomes garbage without iir
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>>163149826

Anything you played then, is now slow as shit and still good as it ever was.

Anything new these days clears an entire map in under a minute.
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>>163149896

>blood magic gem
>lgoh

what year is this, high quality life and mana leech on the passive tree and other sources have been available for a long time and are just better then wasting limited sockets.
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>>163150150
Because I would need a mana pot still. My dmg can't out leach my spending yet.
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>>163150110

Could you shoot a couple builds my way (not actual builds, just names) to start looking?
I only play HC and prefer builds like crit arc, mjollnir or CoC. Flashy stuff that breaks frame rates.
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Only took me 5 characters and 17 days, but I finally hit 90 in BHC!
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>>163150409

>5 deaths two weeks in

lmao how
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>>163150409
Whoa it's scion ed
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>>163150467
1st rip: latency (mom using the microwave)
2nd rip: latency + being shit (lingering pain uber trial)
3rd rip: oba's cursed trove (didn't flask properly, 7k life gone in <0.5 sec by a pack of sub phys)
4th rip: unique dog in normal prisoner's gate (lol)
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>>163150150
>tfw no 2.0 meta
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>>163148069
there is no reason to play hardcore perma. people who play perma leagues play them because they want to min/max the fuck out of their characters, or try weird shit. both of those playstyles are inherently not hardcore playstyles.

again we have the energy shield meme, a meme that didn't exist until breach because people don't know the difference between physical and elemental damage. immortal call hasn't changed, aside from buffs(the cwdt> enduring cry> immortal call was removed, but that was just abused and not working as intended). lightning coil was always popular with range characters, evasion being more a dex defense armor being strength defense, and energy shield being int defense.

Energy shield is a form of defence that acts as an additional hit point pool on top of life.

thats it , thats all it ever was. it doesn't offer some hidden buff or hidden mitigation. ggg are not going to buff life, they are not going to nerf energy shield. learn how to play the game.
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>>163150383
vaal spark
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>>163150835

Lgoh and BM was pre-2.0 mostly if I remember right
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>81lvl
>6k life
>7 endurance charges
>insane leech/regen etc.

>still running hallowed instant flasks

I must've id'd/transmuted a 1000 eternal flasks by now and every single one has had the most useless mods like stun recovery. I could just spend alts, but it's mathematically impossible I haven't hit any ele/bleed/curse flask yet.
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>>163150864
You can get more ES than life on the passive tree and on the right side of the tree, you would be foolish to go life. ES is very easy to get on items. All of this comes at no real cost because you can get life leach for ES and you even have CI available to you as an additional option that life doesn't have.

I am not saying life isn't viable but it certainly isn't on the same level as ES.
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>>163151134
>eternal flasks
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>>163151134
>eternal flasks
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>>163151134

>high leech and regen
>use an eternal

?

With high regen already you don't want regen pots, you want instant divines to quickly cover any burst damage.

>>163151189

50% recovery speed eternals (like 2.5k in 2 sec) are pretty nice to have with an instant flask.
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>>163151189
>>163151280
When you're only running 1 life flask at ~7k life, you just want the most healing from it for longer boss fights. If the only thing saving you is 700hp instant heal, you've fucked up.
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>>163151168
43 life key nodes on the skill tree

18 energy shield key nodes on the skill tree..

you got me there..

range characters are not designed to be tanks, so their starting areas are more evasion/life

the left side of the tree is designed for melee, so it focuses on life/armor

you need to gitgud and stop crying about energy shield, the meme was dead in the water when it arrived on reddit at the start of breach , it will remain dead.
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>>163151168
to further my point, flat life to flat es

total flat es on the tree +66

total flat life on the tree +146

again, you need to stop crying about energy shield and gitgud
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I just want some shitty leveling items man. What fucking profit is there to try and lower the price of an already 1c item?
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>>163151454

I have 6.4k life and about 2.5k~/s leech+regen that doesn't expire from slayer running at all times. I also only run one health potion, I cannot imagine using a regen potion, all you want is instant to cover extreme burst while your leech/regen covers everything else.
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>>163152048
the jewishness of poetards knows no bounds, unfortunately
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these breach loot piñatas start getting annoying when picking up the fragments makes you walk back and fort across 2-3 screens
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>>163152857
lotta loyalty for a hired exile
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>>163151581
>>163151814
Having more nodes for the same or worse gains is a bad thing, not a good thing.

Again, you can get way more ES than life for the same effort/currency. You also get CI, which is significant.
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>>163152830
finally a use for movement speed
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>>163152830

that is one ugly ass filter
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Belly or 1500+ armour chest for Slayer EQ before Kaom's? I've got all the life+armour nodes, so I don't like Belly's 500 armour.
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>>163152916
considering you don't know what energy shield is or how it works i would suggest you go to the wiki, read about how the game mechanics work and then reevaluate your position on the subject. or if you want to you can try to post some information that supports your claim that es is better than life.

es gear is on average more expensive that life based gear, life is more flexible, can use pots, leech works with it by default.
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>>163148738
>piety
>waifu

she is a literall whore with a mutated demon vagina, let it go man
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Im really struggling to find a build to play in BHC. Feels like everything is either totems or cyclone.
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>>163153408

>there is so much out there to be done
>nah fuck it I'll just copy the top guide I find and complain that there isn't much out there

c'mon nigga
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Guys, quick question

I recently upgraded my BF CI Assassin to a 6-link
I've been using BF-MeleePhys-MeleePhysOnFullLife-AoE-CritMulti

Do u think Aded chaos or faster attacks would be the best 6th lnk here?

At first i thought about faster attacks but i got a blue socket instead so im using added chaos atm
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>>163153408
>Feels like everything is either totems or cyclone.

according to whom exactly? the potentially most op builds right now arent even totem or cucklone-based
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>>163153614
faster attacks, added chaos is nice, but faster attacks is smoother
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>>163153532

I haven't played in about 8 months so I don't really know what's what anymore
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>>163153614
Google Path of Building and import your character's gear and skill tree and find out which gem is better for you. It'll probably be added chaos.
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>>163153748

Just on seeing what builds are active and staying updated.
See, I didn't even know there was a new cast when channeling gem.
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>>163153532
To be fair breach will push you shit in really fucking fast if you don't play a very optimized build.
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Can you not tell if an item is mirrored or not on poe.trade?
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>>163154014
It'll say if it's mirrored or not. Looks like he just double listed or something.
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>>163154014
sometimes listings get duplicated
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>>163149537
-fu is not the correct suffix, its -u.
waif-u
dauther-u
faggot-u
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>>163153954
Things that will get people killed:

Chill and lag from Tul.
Shocked ground from Esh.
Being shit at the game from Xoph
Not having a bleed removal flask from Uul-Netol.
Quitting the league before finding a Chayula.

>>163153931
Totem got very popular early on the league because breaches were crazy with how many mobs they spawn. Cyclone getting hyped because of the fire axe and the fact that you can kill while moving out of the bad shit they put out. Plus Vaal Cyclone is fun.
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>>163153224
Daresso chest is p good. Change your active curse to poachers
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>>163153224
A good rare is probably cheaper than a Belly right now.
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>>163154527
Vaal Cyclone is bae but also suicidally stupid

>'Hey just gonna lock myself in place for 5+ seconds and hope I can outleech whatever shitstorm I pull into my clusterfuck'
>'Whoops there goes my fps lol'
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>>163154769
With a leech build and slayer passive reflect reduction and sufficient mob density you cannot die
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>>163154694
Can't fuck with my 7 endurance charges like that.
>>163154728
I only found one that was cheaper and he never responded. So I sniped almost a perfect roll Belly. I guess ~700 more hp will do for now.
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>>163154962
>suck in a volatile
whoops :^)
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>>163154769
I haven't died using it yet but I'm a Berserker with Vaal Pact. I think the fun outweighs the eventual comedic death that you'll see coming worth it.
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>>163154527
>Chill and lag from Tul.
>Shocked ground from Esh.
>Being shit at the game from Xoph
>Not having a bleed removal flask from Uul-Netol.
>Quitting the league before finding a Chayula.

And none of them are build related, just pressing the right flask.
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>>163153910
Thanks, i tried it out and it turned out faster attacks is better (rip ~300chroms)
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>>163155239
There is always the option of getting swarmed to death because you don't have the best gear or are using a top tier skill.
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>>163155329
*are not using a top tier skill
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>>163155329

I have no trouble with breaches and I am using shrapnel shot for fucks sake and it has fucking awful aoe.

Almost all skills and builds are viable enough if you do them right, stop being so shit and acting like if you aren't playing top meta you can't play at all.
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>>163155418

most people dont care about "viability" tbqh

they just want to delete screen like on the sc streamer vids and whatever builds doesnt do that is """"shit""""
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Raider, Slayer or Berserker for Ngamahu's Cyclone?

Vaal Pact on the latter two, or avoid branching out so far?

I can't make a decision
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if i have 110% conversion from phys to chaos, does it get crit multi
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>>163155567

Conversion over 100% is not counted.
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>Shaper's touch doubles in price over 1 week right as my 800 dex iron commander gets online

who is responsible for this shit
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>>163155628
conversion over 100% is used to calculate proportions if there are multiple convert-to elements
but it does not produce an extra damage-like effect.
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>>163155809
DUDE STRENGTH CI BUILDS LMAO
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>>163155565
I'm berserker at level 89 and i like it but i think it is probably the weakest of the 3 options atleast for my build. If i was to start again i'd probably go duelist because there is alot of aoe increases in that area and the leech. Raider if you want to go fast but then you're a mathil copycat
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>>163155329
New content is always over tuned compared to the regular enemies. Same thing happened with Perandus mobs.

>>163155239
Pretty much. Or go Raider if you want a lazy mapping character and forget that shit.

>>163155418
I'd say Shrapnel Shot is decent against leveling breaches because it pierces. Take a skill like Fireball+LMP and I can see them getting overwhelmed as more mobs keep spawning.

>>163155565
I've tried both Raider and Berserker with Ngamahu's and Xoph's Blood. Raider is better for mapping while Berserker is better at tanking bosses if you don't get one-shot. The damage is about 15% in Raider's favour with same gear and tree (Vaal Pact). Raider has a ramp up time for Frenzy charges and you'll probably have mana issues on bosses with only 0.4% mana leech due to the high cost of Cyclone per use compounded by Raider's sonic-fast movement speed (just get another 0.4% node I think). Sorry about the delayed reply.
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>>163155565
I was full in Ngahamu's + Xoph AoF elemental damage and Slayer felt a little pointless for it. I was thinking even Chieftain for it.
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>>163156176
>>163156023
Right, so if I'm not particularly interested in getting to crazy-ass high-stress clearspeeds and am looking for a slightly more tanky build that hits the middle point between Raider and Zerker, Slayer looks like a good idea.

I'm just worried that because Slayer has a focus on leech-over-time, it has a ceiling on how much it can tank before it just gets overwhelmed.

Am I off the mark on this? Is Slayer leech insane enough without VP to deal with the absurd damage spikes in breaches and such with an instant life flask as backup, or will it just get sputter and die?
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>>163156023
How good is Slayer leech compared to Berserker's? I can meatspin Esh from start to finish along with his adds while I constantly see my life drop down to 15-25% and back up instantly. Never tried Slayer seriously so I'm genuinely interested in how its leech works.

Other than the leech, I wouldn't consider Slayer for a Ngamahu's/full elemental.

>>163156543
Pretty much since you'd only get full use out of the leech and onslaught. 15% extra area is mediocre for an ascendancy and Headsman doesn't feel worth justifying if you're not physical.
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>>163156648
you can just take VP on slayer like on any other asscendancy
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>>163156648
As a Slayer, and with the Duelist leech nodes, you get 15% of max HP added to maximum leech rate, on top of the 20% base. Since you're pretty much always going to be capped for leech, that essentially works as 35% regen. You get another maybe 5% regen from the tree.

On a 7k life pool, that means you're regenerating 2800 HP per second. If you're taking more damage than that, you fucked up. You could also path to Hematophagy, though it doesn't do a whole lot since your damage is all fire. This would up your leech rate to 43%, so you basically regenerate 3500 HP a second.
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>>163124113
Vaalsparker
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>>163156648
Just go VP Berserker bro

It's literally impossible to die unless you get one-shot.
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>>163157162
That sounds like a real alternative if you don't like using Vaal Pact. I absolutely hate it during trials.
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>>163127546
>Join as wi in party
>Pls dont use icestorm
I swear im gonna link cwc firestorm and something more to lag out these normies
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Why is this allowed? What the fuck is the point of this even?
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>>163157352
Yeah, that's my conclusion as well.

It seems like it gets more damage, and 100% leech when you actually need it is better than having 'okay' leech all the time.

And I mean, 40% More damage trumps the 20% More damage Slayer gets. I focus a little less on offense in the rest of the tree to account for the 10% increased damage taken. S'good. Berserker Ngamahu here I go.
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>>163157418
Just buy portal gem you dip
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>>163157491
>wasting a gem slot in an end-game setup

With a decent unset ring I could.
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>>163157547
you socket it in the haku weapons you have in your weapon swap you retard.
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>>163157418
>PerfectlyBleachedAnus
I'm sure he is a cool guy
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>>163157418
Why don't you just vendor your transmutes? You also have a valid reason to report him just to spite him.

>>163157461
The 20% more damage is only active if you've killed recently (4s) so it feels icky where it matters, at bosses.
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>Scion defense wheels now 4 minors + 1 notable instead of 7+1
>ES keeps same value per node, total of 44%
>Life wheel changed to life + armor, total of 30% life and 65% armor
>Evasion wheel changed to life + evasion, total of 30% life and 65% evasion
and the most important change
>life wheel now shaped the same as the other two
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>>163157563
Those are full of gems I need to swap and making money with popular gems. Again that's a possibility when my gems hit 20.
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>>163157461
poeurl.com/Wyo
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>>163157823
>Everyone just takes both evasion and life wheel

Wowwwwwwwwwwwwww
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>>163158005
It's 1% more than if the constitution wheel were just 2 nodes larger, but there's also the 5 travel points between. Not a big problem. Besides, life needs the help.
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>>163157953
Do I use a Belly with this or what? Amulet is obviously Xoph's Blood because there is absolutely no reason not to, then wondering if I should also use Formless Inferno as well.

5 jewel slots is cool. I could see this getting like 8-9k life with the above setup and a 5% life jewel in every socket, and mad damage too. Jewels really add a lot of modular upgrade potential.

Thanks for the build
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>>163158181
I don't feel like pathing from Marauder to VP should be rewarded even more than it already is. They should just boost a few of the weaker life nodes over that side. Tireless, Barbarism, Profane Chemistry could all use a small tweak upwards.
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>>163158406
the reason not to use xoph's amulet is because 1. flasks are god and 2. it's expensive as shit thanks to mathil. using aof means you get half the benefit of ToH and nothing from Atziri's. You also can't use phys leech nodes on the tree, which makes you much more pressed for leech.
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>>163157823
That would just make everyone path to Scion. If this is the Scion buff they're thinking about then I don't want it.

>>163157953
If you swap your other STR nodes to RT's side then it's 3 points for 25% more Molten Burst damage. Point blank is also pretty fucking good if you can efficiently path through it.
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>>163158519
>implying life builds aren't forced to path to constitution anyways
that fucking life wheel shouldn't exist at all. every other node on the tree should just give more life, it's bullshit that I don't have an option. Endgame life builds that aren't totems are basically forced to path to scion for the life wheel and then awkwardly path around ranger to get to VP since the scion area is fucking garbage otherwise.
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>>163158505
Flasks still have full effect because you're using 100% conversion to fire, while added damage uses the original, per-conversion values. Why do you think Hatred works on shit like Lightning Arrow?
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>>163158643
Except AoF means you don't deal any of that damage because it isn't fire, smartass

How do people still not know how AoF works after three years
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>>163158519
And after that it's 4 points for 15% more damage overall from Lava Lash. Disregard all this if you're playing HC.
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>>163158643
>you deal no non-fire damage
are you fucking blind?
half of ToH gets converted to fire. The other half is gone. Chaos doesn't get the conversion, so it's entirely gone.
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>>163158519
Oh, right, Iron Grip. Like 80% increased damage for three points, not bad.

Though I could just take the Hatchet Master branch which is almost as efficient and applies to Cyclone too
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>>163158505
>>163158720
I'm pretty sure he is if he doesn't see Duelist leech nodes.
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Do people still even play this game?
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>>163157953
I'd do something like http://poeurl.com/WyE if you're focusing so much on life. About the same amount of life but you get like 15% more damage + Iron Grip.

>>163159560
I think they said update/league has been their biggest yet in terms of player numbers.
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>>163159560
Steam graph shows this had the highest pick up rate for any league like anon said but this thread feels dead sometimes so i'm not sure where the numbers are.
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>>163159686
>http://steamcharts.com/app/238960#1y
if the steam chart is anything to go by, it's not even close. more than 50% gain on the next highest which was Perandus, although retention hasn't been exceptional, it's still well above Perandus's launch a couple weeks in which is pretty good.
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>>163159686
Yeah that looks like it works better
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>>163159852
do you think everybody that plays comes to /poeg/?

not that we didnt have a share of newfags this league, but vg is a nice place that most people dont even know exist
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>>163159924
>nice place

meant niche

its not nice
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Which one of you fags keeps telling casuals about the Hand of Wisdom and Action claws? Went on vacation for a couple days and didnt think to pick it up for my CI Ele Buzzsaw Raider and shit jumped from 12c for a max roll to fucking 40c (BHC)
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>>163160641
ziggyd did like a week ago
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>>163160641
Ziggy has been playing it for a couple of days now so you're fucked, son.
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>>163160641
some streamer made a build around it

40c is still cheap t b h
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>>163160641
blame this guy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqz-kjjsxYY
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can vaults of atziri drop only from vaal pyramid if you've never cleared it before?

im really confused about the new atlas stuff
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>>163160871
>check his passive tree
>90% increased ES
top lol
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>>163158629

this is why you need to only play slayer

no need to go to VP
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What is THE build to farm currency on when you have none to make a build?
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"Long ago, people looked to the stars,
believing they influenced us.
Soon, it will be us who influence the stars."
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>>163160962
scorching ray whispering ice DESU

or pizza stix
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>>163160931
do you need that many passive ES nodes when you have 1200+ int?
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>>163160962

Slayer for ez map clear

or jugg for uberlab farming

u can SSF to endgame easily but with minimal investment like 2-3 alch you can get a decent pdps weapon and start your endgame
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>>163161082
got em'
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i have never been more bored with this game
>>
i have never been bored with this game
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If I want to start learning this game where should I start?
>>
I want to jizz inside Vanya where do I start?
>>
If I want to get a free (You) where do I start?
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>>163160979
thats worth at least 1 chrome
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>>163161526
theyre both hotties desu i would like Petarus to fuck me so hard from the back that the force makes me repeatedly bottom out hard in Vanja each time I pull back. Like a living condom.
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>>163161936
forgot ur cat photo
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aww, look who I ran into while replaying the level. I thought I'd never see you again, Piety!

:')
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""""""quality"""""""" """"""""networking""""""""""

I'm so glad they added more servers. That's really helped network performance, time to buy another supporter pack!
>>
no one with a functioning brain pays for chris wilson's lottery
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Lads I started the league on a ED scion and it plays pretty damn nicely, but trying to do guardians and overall content with lots of damage flying around feels awful because I have 5k hp and no defenses of any kind.

I was thinking about a vaal righteous fire slayer, if I could make it work. Anyone got any idea what would work best for that?
>>
Hi, Chris Wilson from Grinding Gear Games here. I see that a lot of you here on 4Chan /VG/ have a lot of strong opinions regarding the design of the game.
May I direct you to post on the forums instead so that it will be easier to quantify your opinions.

Thanks you for your time and don't forget that we are running a sale on stash tabs, check it out!
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>>163162254
>replaying the level

what did xhe mean by this
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>>163162259
>>163162259

post ur monthly PoE subscription payment receipt

oh...

there is non

because its a F R E E game

so you can't complain

ok?
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>>163162254
Piety is literally a former hooker
Worst waifu in the entire game
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>>163162709
>vaal righteous fire

can't work because it requires 32 souls and doesn't cover an enormous aoe to compensate like vaal spark
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>>163163112
VRF isn't for clearing trash, it's for oneshotting rares and bosses with huge ignites.
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>>163163112
couldn't I just run with normal righteous fire for trash though?
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>>163163112
>>163163214
You need vaal pact for VRF to be useful right?
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>>163163287
As Slayer, possibly.
But VRF works significantly better with CI or LL, and the best class for it is probably Assassin or Elementalist.

Also this >>163163345
The only alternative to VP is Vaal IC but then you need even more souls.
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pic of me hunting shitbirds in poeg
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>>163160962
Cyclone Slayer for easy and smooth dried lake grinding.
Jugg EQ/AW for uber lab farming if you're a big boy.
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>>163163604
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>>163163423
I was hoping endless hunger and brutal fervour would make enough of a difference not to need vaal pact, although now that I'm thinking about the way you'd actually play this you don't even get the immunity not to be interrupted out of VRF.
Besides this probably strays too far from the tanky and fast character I wanted to begin with.
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Is there a non-meme reason to actually take life circles on the passive tree?
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what to do level 80 onward ?
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>>163164068
Because it's life which is all you ever want on a hardcuck build.
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>>163164092
start playing the game
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>>163164068
Nah, you can get enough life on gear and put all your points in damage to clear faster.
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>>163164092
Grind some more.
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>>163163062
>>163153316

You're both wrong, but I don't mind if you guys think that. I'm glad to have Piety all to myself. She's perfect.
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>>163163052
based
+1
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>>163164435
Did you even read her lore?
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>>163161067
>>
why do people use the slayer impact passive in cyclone builds?
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>>163164636
Literally for 15% increased AoE and 14% increased damage with two handed weapons.
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>>163164706
Isn't that literally dumb?
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>>163164636
It's 15% AoE?
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>>163164435
>You're both wrong
how?
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>tfw people go memeball cyclone as a slayer but they don't realize they completely gimped themselves with the leach nodes as it only leaches phys damage
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>>163164993
>people thinking when it comes to builds
lol

Just copy the first result in google, who cares about how the skills work/interact
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>>163164724
it is

the alternative gives same boost to aoe and two hand dmg, but also 20% MORE dmg if you killed recently (you always have this up) and 50% reduced phys reflect dmg
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So i'm over this point that on my slayer cyclone guy.
(i'm missing disfavour currently farming for it)
Did couple of twined corrupted T15 maps,did minotaur mazemonly missing chayula as breach lord.

Want to start a new build,any build that is FUN?
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>>163164993
>leach

Slayer ascendancy nodes are attack damage leech though, not physical.
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>>163164993
>with the leach nodes as it only leaches phys damage
... What? attack damage leech is attack damage leech. It doesn't care whether it's physical or not. Did you actually think melee gets no leech from Hatred or something?
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>want a fast as shit tanky as fuck build that doesn't have to care about all the bullshit on bosses
>too used to super clearspeed builds that die when something coughs at them
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>>163165235
play blade vortex, it's best of both worlds, can be built tanky and still shits out damage with no investment whatsoever
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>>163165235
Play Gladi Blade furry poison.

Its tanky as fuck.
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:^)
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>>163165296
>it's a /poeg/ recommends whatever video was posted on reddit last post
>>
I might want to get back into this game, after a couple of years.
Is it worth it for single player/standard league? I still have some stuff on my old chars, if they weren't wiped or anything, but I wanted to start completely new anyway.
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>>163166994
Play temp leagues, nothing you had back then is worth jack shit now, except maybe legacy uniques and even then it's pointless playing in dumpster league plus Breach is the best league we've had in a while, stupid to skip it
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>>163166994
Everyone starts fresh in the new challenge leagues. A lot of content has been added to the game so I would recommend starting on the Breach league with everyone else which also helps with trading. I play this game solo because I'm Australian and my friends don't play this type of game and I progress just fine. Only thing you'd lose out on is probably faster master levels due to daily party rotations.
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will killing the shore boss with his two summons infesting him count towards killing a foe posessed by two tormented spirits?
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>>163167476
Yes.
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is this still viable poeg
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>>163167535

thanks anon. time to run a shore
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What's a good build to play if you play while wearing buttplug?
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Just found my first 6 socket item, and of course it's something that looks totally ugly on Witch.

>>163164750
>>163164595
Of course I did. There's nothing.
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>>163167619
idiot...
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>>163167619
Totems
Siege Balista
Ice Crash
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>>163167647
>6 socket

So? vendor it
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>>163167647
"Just found my 7th Jeweller's Orb"
ftfy
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how does mjolner juggernaut discharge work? you need a voll's devotion right? how do you get power charges?
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>>163167647
>Of course I did. There's nothing.
no you didn't

she was supposed to be exiled but then she charmed aka sucked more cocks some powerfull guy and got pardoned
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>>163167560
no
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>Players have 25% less area of effect
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>>163168361
*exiled for being such a whore
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>>163168403
>players are cursed with temporal chains
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>>163168403
>>163168475
>area is inhabited by Goatmen
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>>163168475
>chilled ground
>map is also infested with undead so you can be sure there are tar zombies everywhere
>melee
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>>163168620
>Hating most comfy mod
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>>163168801
>comfy
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humanoids and goatmen is literally FREE packsize
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>>163168623
>helping my coworker run some T10 maps
>Lol bruh zombies are shit
>He gets almost 1 shotted by one rare zombie with powerfull crits.
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>>163168861
but they dont provide any pack size.
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>>163168920
it's hidden implicit
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CwDT+BV+curse on hit+enfeeble
yay or nay?
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>>163168361
Yes, she worked for Dominus, but the rest is just your fantasy, bro.
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>>163169532
she fucked whole legions of Blackguards too
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>>163169497
>"hey anon lets use a shit version of blasphemy"
>"yes"
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>>163169649
I can't reserve more mana tho
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>>163169532
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>>163153316
>mutated demon vagina
I get the whore part, but is that actually part of the lore. That would be an oddly detailed part of the backstory for GGG to create.
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>essence of horror
>overcharged
>red dream at scion block area
>56% chance to gain a power/frenzy/endurance charge on kill
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>>163169721
not sure what are you unsure about, she is a whore and turns into a nightare spawn/ demon a couple of times so it's safe to asume her vagina has teeth and is evil in general too

but no, GGG never commented on her vagina
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>tfw you've lost 6 characters since the league started
>still can't stop playing

this game is fun I like it
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>>163140912
>such stupidity
>much retardation
>game has hundreds of unique items
>over 50% of players use the same 3-4
>this is a good game design
Yeah, you are stupid AND retarded.
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>>163169717
>filename
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>>163169581
Well, that's a whole other story. Of course she gets herself some. She's not a virgin.

>>163169717
There's no truth to that whatsoever. It's just gossip spread by jealous haters.
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>>163169816
>on kill
wow real useful vs bosses lol
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>>163147487
>wake up
>grind 50 map tiers
>feel exhausted
>go back to sleep
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What do I replace Amplification Rod with if I'm leveling with Firestorm?
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How the fuck do you level Leo? I hate pvp.
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>tfw trying to think up of a build but you end up needing 2 unique rings to make it viable
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go fuck yourself zana
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>>163172236
+1 fire gems sceptre and an axiom
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>>163172732
>Adds (2-3) to (5-6) Fire Damage to Spells
Does this apply to socketed gems or globally?
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>>163172821
global
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>>163172559
>it's a Poorjoy's Asylum episode
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>>163169497
Why not just CWDT+Enfeeble
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>>163173080
area application
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I'm looking at an Ice Shot build that pretty much has all mobs chilled/blinded and temp chained at all times and I wonder why the build doesn't use arrow dancing. Seems like a good pick up for mobs that are outside of the blasphemy/tempchains range.
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>finally get a chayula breach
>completely shit on it, clear mobs as they spawn with vaal cyclone
>rares keep jumping outside the circle

TWO FUCKING FRAGMENTS FUCK YOU
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>>163173202
The last thing you want as evasion is less of it.
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>tfw 82 and still havent dared venture into merciless lab
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>>163174008
>did cruel lab with 5,3k life
>izaro slammed by boipussy for 5,2k
>only buff was endurance charges
I wouldn't want to know how strong he is in merc and uber.
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>>163174139
charges are his biggest damage buff, retard
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>>163174139
He slams for about 6k in Merc
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>>163174008
just pay someone for it retard
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>>163174316
but that's cheating
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>>163174220
Endurance charges buff izaro damage? Since when?
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>100c deep into perandus mods
>4 coffers

those 10c coffer challenge sellers are starting to look good
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>>163174379
they're not endurance charges, they're everything charges
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>>163174316
fuck off non-catposting catposter
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chris before his GGG days
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What are the bonus objectives in the atlas? Do they actually reward something?
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Do you guys think this is viable as a oro's sacrifice flicker strike build? Planning on using daresso's defiance, mokou's embrace and emberwake, and darkray vectors
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>>163174932
they give 1% to maps dropping 2 tiers higher if you complete them
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>>163174139
>crual lab
>5,3K life
I am doing t10 maps with 4,5K life on cyclone
Try avoiding telegraphed attacks you shitter.
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>>163174378
nobody cares though

some builds don't work without 6 ascendancy points
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>>163175341
there is nothing in t10 maps that 1 shots you

I'm doing t15s with a high leech life build, its fucking easy but izaro will fuck my shit up just because he can two shot me
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>>163168210
romiras banquet + resolute techniques
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Lady luck has graced me today :)
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>>163178020
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Is there any reason to use Herald of Thunder over Herald of Ash?
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>>163160931
It stacks 1200+ int you mongloid
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>trying to craft a decent chaos damage ring with essences
kill me haha
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>>163178612
yes
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So /poeg, Abberath's hooves. Streamers are using them for leveling now and the price is going crazy.
How high will they go? 6 exalts like they are in standard right now? Even higher? Price going to come back down once everyone has their toon levelled and/or more copies are found?
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>>163178612
herald of ash is for physical damage
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What effects does it have and what does it mean when a gem is corrupted? I've seen them on poe.trade, so I can't check the details.

If you want to buy a 20% lvl20 gem, should you go for a non-corrupted one?
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>>163179292
http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Vaal_Orb#Gems
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>>163179013
Jesus fuck what a meme
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>>163179013
>toon

neck yourself
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>>163179517
Thanks
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>picked up this little guy for 1.5ex a few days into the season
>just now sold it for 1.5ex like 2 weeks later now that i've got a far better one

never seen any type of gear be so static in value
what a season
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>>163179013
>one dude makes a video with it
>3 days later everyone's using it and it now costs 100c

the reddit unique
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why is residence such a based map? it has shit density and is short as heck but it's still fun to do every time
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>No Str/Int weapon class (that isn't shared with maces)
>No 0.5:1 STR:INT weapon class
>No 1.5:1 STR:INT weapon class
>No 2H Pure int weapon
>No 2H Dex/Int weapon
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what are staves?
>>
>>163153176
what filter would you recommend then goy
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>>163159924
>>163159924
>but vg is a nice place that most people dont even know exist
But you guys are cunts to any new player that comes here
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the resists are neat but are weapon elemental damage / leech desired at all?
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>>163182160
yes but the value of that WED roll is really low
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>>163169908
why not just play standard if you suck that much
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>>163182160
I'd use it on the character I'm leveling if I had it I guess, but I wouldn't buy it because it can't have life and I'm a dumbfag that's playing life in December 2016
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What class would be best for a Molten strike build? And fire in general. HC Breach.
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>>163182160
i sold a ring exactly like that but diamond base with 45/44 dual res and 33% wed for 50c.
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>>163182314
Because he's not a fucking casual who gives up in the face of adversity
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We are doing this

This is happening
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Guys i need some help with elementalist passive pick order.

I am currently leveling some kind of template for a fire elementalist. Can use fireball, flameblast, CWC WI, any aoe/whatever firespell.

I think i first go for Liege of the Primordial right?

Secondly, i think i would take Shaper of desolation.

But im not sure about the third. Beacon of Ruin or Paragon of Calamity?
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>>163182447
>Xoph's Heart is like 2ex

What the fuck
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>>163182723
mathil used it for 2 builds already
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>>163182417
>i sold a ring exactly like that except 10 times as good
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>>163182723
M A T H I L I F I C A T I O N
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>>163182406
Elementalist for free prolif. Breaches are all about your aoe.
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>>163182723
>tfw I thought I was getting ripped off buying one for 40c because I couldn't buy a blood for 20c

Not even using it any more
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>>163182723
its an absolutely amazing amulet, would have gone up even if mathil didnt do his dumb build
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Are they going to release a hotfix and buff life/level to 30 today
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>>163182805
just pointing out to him that those stats he mentioned are indeed desirable

buzzsaw is definitely being played again and ive seen a few 2h ele builds too
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>>163182925
what is wrong with life you bab
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>>163182370
>it can't have life
>>
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>>163182781
>>163182817
W O W

Nice community great playerbase
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>>163182852
Could you explain a bit? I havent played for a long time.
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>>163183017
Oops, been thinking of int so much lately because my character is as dumb as I am
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>buy cheap unique for 1c off of poe trade
>make build video around it
>resell it for 50 exalts 2 days later

mathil is a genius
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>>163183027
what a fucking shit map, they still haven't fixed pack spawns with big pack size mods. the first 2 floors had like 4 packs in total. luckily I got a hydra map from it or i'd be upset
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ffs more of these things have dropped for me 2 weeks into this league than have dropped since i began playing back when piety was still the end of the game. I hope they unfuck the drop rate in future seasons because good gear costing 50's of ex is quite dumb.
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>>163183125
Witch has an ascendant class named Elementalist

once you finish normal difficulty go back and do the ascendancy trials in lower prison, chamber of sins, crypt, crematorium, hedge maze and catacombs. then, go to sarn and click the statue, enter the labyrinth, finish it and choose elementalist as your class at the end

pick shaper of desolation as your first ascendancy node so that in cruel lab you can continue up the tree to pick up orb of ruin, it gives you FREE elemental prolif
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>>163183532
Play something that isn't meta
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>>163183661
is your reasoning that slower clears = fewer exalts? Seems like a ham-fisted solution.
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>>163183220
more like the rest of the community is braindead
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>>163183532
>blade flurry
ECKS DEE!
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what's a good class to fuck breaches? already played flurry and the flameblaster i play now kinda blows and plays like a worse version of blade flurry. should i make a cycloner and if so raider or slayer?
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>>163184219
>the flameblaster i play now kinda blows

how is that even possible

flameblast is THE retard-proof build, how are you fucking this up
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>>163184306
Probably went inquisitor.
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>>163184110
>tfw im nothing more than a hollow meta shell since CoC got gutted
>no more gmp magma orb fireball spectral throw
>no more chain volley fire barrage bladefall
>no more quillrain glacial cascade firestorms
>no more inspiration
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>>163183826
Oh god, you've actually become such a shitter that it's given you brain damage.

A build can clear well and not be meta. There are tons of OP builds that aren't jammed into the frontal lobe of the general populace, and the gear for them is super cheap because there's no demand.
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>>163184219
Ngamahu Raider
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>>163184548
>A build can clear well and not be meta.
i never said they couldn't. Now who has brain damage?
>>
is there even a point to make a life character or are they all terrible
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>>163184652
>that slower clears = fewer exalts

non-meta = slower clears = fewer exalts

Silly cunt
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Are there ANY viable staff builds? I fucking hate this game sometimes man. So many builds but the lot of them are shitty but you won't feel the shitiness until you start doing maps. FUCK!
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>>163184548
there is a difference between 'meta' and 'fotm' you fucking mong
>>
path of exile

More like path of trap support double dipping
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>>163184924
if ur poor they have best bang/buck survivability
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>>163184306
it's not that it's bad it's just similar to flurry except worse clearspeed

>>163184502
nah i'm elementalist
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>tfw make life character as my first one and they just get shit on in here
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>>163185161
It's a meme
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>>163185161
/ourguy/ mathil only makes life characters and is better than all the shitters here. they just need 12k buffer because they can't dodge and stand in shit
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>>163185161
bet you also think we all play hardcore LMAO
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>>163184985
it's all about minion damage double dipping now though

ci + vis mortis + golems + jewels + that op minion sword = poison damage out the wazoo
>>
>current year
>still playing tutorialcore
>>
why do people follow meme FOTM builds when they could just play flameblast which is 10x easier and cheaper?
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>>163186014
tutorialcore meaning hardcore the league where you learn not to trust the servers with a character? yeah that's why i don't play anything that has perma death online unless it's a turn-based roguelike
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>>163186157
Because flameblast is so FUCKING BORING. It's more BORING than fucking SOFTCORE. The only times I've died playing flameblast was from pure boredom.
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>>163186357
following an e-celeb sponsored meme reddit build guide is boring already though
>>
I'd much prefer a mediumcore where if you died once you got heavily punished kind of like dark souls, but if you came back and beat what you died to you regained the XP, but if you died again you got super fucked


Like if you died you lost 2 levels, if you died again you lost 10


Would make dying feel like shit, but if you d/c'd or had a lagspike or whatever it would be annoying but not the end of the world

And if you were shit you'd get crushed back to level 70 over and over


Also if you log during a map/zone out you get a death :)
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Elemental Adaptation needs to come back.

Random 1 point notables like Berserking need to come back

Multiple entrance/exit circles need to come back.

The skill tree in general needs a huge rework back into the fun, glorious clusterfuck that was pre-1.0 PoE.
>>
Why can't i play anything other than marauder/duelist melee builds? everything else just seems so squishy.
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>>163187003
id rather hardcore actually be hardcore
>can still play your character after it dies
lmao even d3 babs have it tougher
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>>163187034
What was Elemental Adaption?
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>>163187109
>Still have a stash full of shit when you die

This really hurts the idea of hardcore being hardcore
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>>163187034
>Multiple entrance/exit circles need to come back.
so much this
all trees look the same now because there's no options for different pathing

>>163187202
+5% max resists, later +2%, later removed from the tree
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>>163187109
At high levels your character may as well have just died if you lose 10 levels anyway,
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>>163187202
A node that gave +5% to all max elemental resists, later nerfed to +2%.

Used to be around where Zealot's Oath is currently.
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How much hp should a cycloner have for bossing? I clear trash with ease but always feel squishy vs bosses. I'm also using vulnerability, should I maybe switch to tempo chains or enfeeble for bosses?
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>>163187310
>>163187402
Jesus
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>>163182723
>sold mine right before he released his build
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>flame dash still a clunky pos that will randomly trigger twice in a back and fort

why havent they fixed the only wand movement skill for duration builds?
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>message 5 different people to buy their shitty leveling item
>not a single one responds

P L A Y E R
I N T E R A C T I O N
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>>163187921
i had to message 15 different people to get shavronne's boots for 1 alch so i could do the homo brutus prophecy
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Could this work using Molten strike?
https://www.pathofexile.com/fullscreen-passive-skill-tree/AAAABAMAAQQHBg4I9An2Dc0RLRQgGj4czhzcHwIhsCftKPopLiqNK1AulDGeMjQ09zWSNtg6WDrhPC09Xz38QYdFnUkbTLNN41BHUlNTUlXGVw1XK1hjXz9qQ20Zcql2rHyDfLh82YIHgseDzIPbg_eFModljM-XhZeVl_Sa4KZXrJitja-nr7e3PriTvOq9gsBUxPbGrsbYz37SIdR82L3ZYd-K5FHpAuoY6-7sVe8O8WzxrPJB8kX2SPcy-ej-Cv5U_o_-sw==
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Doing a max block gladiator at the moment and I need some input on something, should I shoot for 78/78 unbuffed or just get enough block to reach cap with the 8% from taking dmg + 3% from tempest shield?
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>>163188030
That's why I'd go right to the 1c listings.
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>>163187631
Back then the separate Purity of X auras didn't exist, and Purity of Elements gave + to all max ele resists, so getting 85% elemental resists was trivial if you were on the left side of the tree.

A few 100% ele resist CI perma Immortal Call zero damage builds popped up, and GGG realized they fucked up, so they nerfed it all into the ground and ruined everyone's fun as usual.

Immortal Call also used to gain flat base duration per Endurance Charge, so speccing into 1 of the skill duration circles could net you 10+ second phys invulnerability.

I remember when path was fun
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>go afk
>come back with a bunch of xp because the passive kills anything in an AoE which also gives me leech and I have IC codt
>literally immortal
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>>163188424
yes but im a fucking jew hence actually wanting to do the brutus shavronne prophecy instead of just sealing and vendoring it
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>>163187595
i do fine with 5k, fortify and high leech
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>>163188370
Count on the extra 11%; in breaches and bosses you are constantly taking hits
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>>163187921
>>163188424
i wound out that people who don't price their items respond faster than those who do

they're like "omg omg someone wants to buy my shit item for 1c?!?!?!?!?1 better be fast to not fuck it up!!!"

also there's more to that "trick"..
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>>163188919
Alright sounds good, should save me some points I can toss into life or something.
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>>163184219
Raider if you want to go fast, Slayer otherwise.
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>>163187034
>Elemental Adaptation needs to come back.
+max res wasn't split up on a whim, plus any node that is so good on every build that can use it will is boring design

The old tree was messy, massive parts of it were just straight up bad and
>>
path of energy shield
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>>163187631
>farming atziri with 100% fire/lightning resist
Good times.
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>>163188976
block is great also get violent retaliation
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>>163189505
Was planning on it, then grab the bleed node if I ever do uber lab.
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>Chayula's uniques are 100 times more valuable than Shaper's
What did GGG mean by this? All the 3 jewels are incredibly good. Presence of Chayula is BiS for LL. Skin of the Lords has the potential to be the best chest in game and comes with a FREE keystone.
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Is poison gem worth tossing into a McFlurry setup if you have 0 chaos dmg or dmg over time nodes?
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>>163189940
not really, use Voidheart or Adder's touch if you use daggers
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>tfw too intelligent not to use vaal spark
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vspark is Ziz's go-to braindead build, and he's not exactly a shining pillar of intelligence
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Does this look like 2ex?
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>>163189676
chayula spinters are rare, simply going into the breach costs like 2ex anyway
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>look for item to buy on poe trade
>find offer that sells it for one orb
>contact the guy ingame and tell him I want to buy it for the price he set himself
>he calls me noob
Can someone tell me what I did wrong? I'm confused.
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>>163190437
dude is just an autist lol
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>>163190378
It's fast, but it doesn't have much else. 300 pdps is good, but not 2ex good. 20c, best I can do
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>>163190427
gating powerful uniques behind rarity is terrible game design

"here's this cool unique you can build around! but you gotta farm maps for 5000 hours to gather the 100 shards necessary for one attempt! or just play the trade game, we know you players love that xD"
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>>163190481
So, list for 1.5ex then after first offer jack it up right? Got it.
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>>163190647

thats standard ARPG mechanics

if that aint your thing, reconsider playing arpgs in general
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>>163190647
>here's this cool unique you can build around!
None of them enable new builds, they just empower builds that already function fine without them.
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>>163190470
why do people bother selling stuff for one orb of alteration anyway? Its not that much is it?
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>>163190925
Well, if you needed an item that's worth 1alt then you probably ARE a noob. But yeah, he should have at least sold it to you after calling you a noob. Report him, he deserves it.
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>breaches closing just as they get intense

The blue balls this league is real.
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hi
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>>163191152
report him for what?
Even I buy nothing but scrub cheap items still. I don't know what is good, and what I will eventually replace so meh. The only big items I shelled out for was a goldrim, lightning coil, and marohi. I need to fill out my resists though. They still fucked right now at 70/40/30 -48% chaos.
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>>163191152
started playing 3 days ago as summoner because I played necro in d2 so yeah, I guess that makes me noob but I want to make at least one trash virgin character and play the game it was meant to be played before checking some build from internet
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>Life can get 7k

>CI can get to 16 with vaal discipline
>Also Temp chains, fortify, shield, and granite flasks are even more important

makes you think
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>>163191431
How far are you through so far? I just started like 4 days ago. I just looked up a build for poor beginners and went with it lel.
Summon necro was a meme in d2 desu
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>pay 20c for perandus mod on 5 maps
>get ZERO(0) coffers
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Is 2k life enough for normal izaro on BHC? Haven't done a lab run on an evasion character since the first week of ascendancy.
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What do I do with this
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>>163190925
I don't sell anything under 1 chaos and my chaos tab is not public unless I'm afk and can actually be bothered to trade for once

It's just not worth the effort and time for me of listing it and inviting them when you get like 2 chaos from 1 breach why would I care about anything less than that anyway

but I'm glad when people do sell their useless shit, like people who collect thousands of wisdoms to sell them for like 1 alt profit per 1k sold, just what the fuck man
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>>163191825
just destroy it
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>>163191668
>Summon necro was a meme in d2 desu
What do you mean? You could beat entire game with it including UT and DC.
im starting 3 act in PoE although i must find some aoe skill against shitloads of mobs because boss fights are easy with summons so far
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>tfw surviving with 2k Health + 700ES and uncapped res in Tul breaches in merc
just shitcrow things
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>>163191886
I just meant that it was def the easiest build to play when you had no good items to clear game. I would play it too.

You could try dead detonate? Iono
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>Have a Lion's roar flask
>Right now it is usefull as I don't have enough ES
>It is being sold for 50c
Do I sell it or I keep until get I enough ES?
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>>163191307

its retarded you can potentially have 60% es on rings+amulet
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Exalts are becoming increasingly worthless in bhc. To the point its easier to just use chances, alchs or chromes as a chaos substitute than ex.

I dont know if this is great or terrible.
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>>163191886
You usually get melee splash and link it to your summons to AoE clear
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>>163192262
Buy ex before the EVE rejects crash the market
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>>163191727
karma for buying all those challenges and saving a lot of currency indirectly by not doing them yourself
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>>163192446
>HURR DURR CATSHITTER BUYS CHALLENGE DURR HE'S SUCH A SHITTER DURR DURR DURR

t. u
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>>163192531
>buys challenges
>complains the few you have to do yourself are too expensive/grindy
maybe D3 is more up your alley at this point
>>
IM NEW TO THE GAME, AND I TRY GOLEM BUILD BUT I HAVE NO CLAYSHAPERS

PLS GIVE
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>>163192649
i still do rippy red maps and do 99% of the challenges my're self, DORK

i've literally only bought a shaper kill this league
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>>163192957
show me your chayula kill or keep your cunt mouth shut
>>
how likely is it that the poison bv bug can't be fixed without fucking over a ton of other builds and they're waiting as long as possible to deploy the fix to keep league population high
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>>163193090
BEHOLD MY GREATNESS
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>>163193181
you bought this
>>
retard question again

is there anyway to save an item you see on poe? Like if you're scrolling down and went to go compare it to another one you scrolled past
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>>163193196
i bought the splinters yea
>>
Playing Sorching Ray+Righteous Fir Inquisitor, probably the first build that isn't mind numbing
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>tfw resist capped now
Should I bother with chaos res or nah
>>
>>163193206
Are you buying items from trade chat?
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>>163193438
poe.trade I mean
>>
vaal haste doesnt work with CWDT?
>>
>>163193413
>RF
>not mind numbing

What?
>>
>>163193181
sad thing is you probably didn't kill xoph or esh on your own either lol

bitch ass nigga
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>>163193578
no it doesn't. No vaal gems do
Unless I'm mistaken
I also tried vaal haste yesterday and when it didn't work I sold it lel
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>>163193536
No. You'd have to open another tab, though you could copy and use the same URL.
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>>163193708
How though? If I click the item in a new tab it just searches the same shit again. Or do you mean have two searches going?
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if I'm resist capped what should I focus on getting on my other pieces, or should I continue to go to resist so I don't have to wear goldrim eventually
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>tfw can't even get 5 link
>tfw shitty weapon
Kill me.
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>>163191734
You can do him with 1k if you have balls
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What the fuck do I use to level on merciless?
My firestorm is lackluster
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>>163191734
What type of character do you have? I have a ranger and I did him with 690 hp.
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>>163194621
Just look for a cheap rare on poe.trade with spell damage and cast speed
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>>163194481
a 5 link chest with 100 health is less than 5 chaos...
>>
>>163194621
Dual axiom with a crit chance gem.
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>>163191727
I've dumped about 200 chaos on perandus mod and I'm at 7/10. I've bought a pair of rampage gloves off cadiro for like 12c worth of coins and made about 40c profit on an astramentis. I now have 20c worth of coins left. The extra loot/xp you get from rolling perandus on your maps is pretty negligible, They dropped a t11 once (I'm running t13-15s).

So I paid 128 chaos for 7/10 coffers and a t11.

Shouldve bought the coffers from other players desu
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>>163193612
i'm the 9rd best player in poeg
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>>163193108
extremely unlikely
>>
>craft 8 rings with chaos damage essences
>none of them roll life
>or double resist
>or anything useful
STOPPP
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>>163193612
Xoph is pretty much the easiest one though.
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>>163195231
now that i think about it, yeah that seems silly

but i'm curious why it's taking so long to fix something so obviously broken
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>>163195597
they do not like nerfing shit mid league, also its been like a week at most since it's widely known.
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How much is Kitava's Feast actually worth on softcore if you assume the worst rolls?

http://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Kitava%27s_Feast
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>>163195778
1 ex

the higher the price of a unique the less the rolls matter
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>>163195197
out of 12 actual players who post here

7 of which are poopbirds
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>>163194481
almost spells homo just for you
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>>163196003
there's a lot of good HC players here desu

they come here to escape the buttbirds on lebbit
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>>163195995
Thanks.
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>ex prices have actually been going down in BHC

what the fuck is this
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:^)
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>>163195679
this is extremely broken though

people are instakilling shaper on hc with little risk
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>>163196140
They're the same price that they were at this point last league. Price will probably be 34c per in just over a month.
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>>163196282
why aren't you?
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>>163196574
i am

on softcore :^)
>>
it's nearly 2017, don't you think it's about time you guys got good at poe?
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>>163194848
>>163194709
Woww such an upgrade
Fuck you
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>>163192043
More than that if you factor in int.
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>>163197320
>19% more dps
>not an upgrade
>>
>>163196074
ebin
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>>163193581
it's just a secondary
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>>163194621
firestorm practically oneshots shit on merciless even without gear

the fuck you doing, link that shit up
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>>163197320
I'm not the one buying the wand dipshit
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how do you deal with people who join a group you are in and have more dps than you?

do you try to get them kicked or do you leave or ask them to leave?
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>>163197732
wut?
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>>163197538
https://www.pathofexile.com/fullscreen-passive-skill-tree/AAAABAUBAQKWAx4JqgxSDXwOSA5cD6sRLxFQEZYV1xa_GF0ZihqPGyUc3B1PH0EgbiL0JIso-ioLKjgqWysKLL8tHy9vMtE1uTzvQZZDNkVHRX5GcUcGSVFLrkyzUDBSKVLsVeBWY1fJWFpd8l9qYENiWmNDaPJq-mwIbAttGW1sbj1wUnC7efZ_xoMJhMWGronTi4yMNo8aj_qSbpMnlwabtZx7oS-nK6i5rfGus7QMtMW1SLiTuZO8Vr6AvorAZsCawcXC7MMJwzrEosrT0B_Q0ND10nzZE9lb2fzbXtvn35jquutj6-7r9ewY7WHv6_DV8YryHfLh9tr53fsJ

I'm going for this
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>>163197732
you walk behind them and pick up loot
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>>163197732
>playing in a group
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>>163197792
whya re you posting my gf
>>
>>163198002
>tfw I have played only solo since starting
desu idk how to make friends on this game. General/trade chat just spamfests
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>>163197808
What the fuck

Are you just leveling with firestorm?
>>
>>163198016
back the fuck off!?!?
>>
>>163198079
I don't see how this game could be any fun playing in group when in the end it will be one person killing everything in one hit.
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anything different in merc labyrinth compared to cruel?
I'm about to go in
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so i got this armor in exchange for a lions roar i gave to a friend, said i could craft es and then build a CI char around it.

now ive researching i think i got scammed but i just want to make sure. this is not worth much isnt it?
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>>163199375
lol
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>>163199375
>Everything in this post
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dont get baited
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>>163199616
new map
>>163199616
>>
I think that bait is worth a few (You)s.
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>>163197320
>total damage up
>cast speed up
>crit chance up
that is a big upgrade...
>>
>>163199375
Nigga
>>
>>163197792

Ugly, both the grill and a size of the damn t-shirt.
>>
>>163199375
Dude uninstall
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