/fhg/ For Honor General

>>163116931
You want cringe?

>People who slowly walk away from you after they beat you in a Duel

pssssh nothin personel kid

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first for mordhau

>>163117040
Make a mordhau general you autist.

This game's 4vs4 mode is laughable trash. Are they really going to ship with this dogshit?

>>163117040
>first
>couldnt even get it right
>shilling some garbage nobody's heard of
>>163117224
>playing dominion or kill
the game is all about 2v2 and duel

>>163116203
Did you wanna play some, then?

>>163117105
but then who would visit to call me autistic?

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>>163117224
>he tried to fight 3 to 4 people at once

>>163117040
first for how mordhau will look after autists get their hands on it
https://youtu.be/tOSKl8pdBgs?t=59

>>163117224
Dominion is great, it just requires a different mindset from Duels.

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>>163116861
Im 100% sure now that berserker is low tier in this game

He is all reaction and now action himself
He can only make use of his trait if the opponent is attacking
And good players will never let you get your infinite going
It's not even a real infintie since it can be broken.
ON TOP OF THAT HE HAS NO FUCKING LIGHT ATTACK

lf Eurobros to duel

SongSmile

>>163117417
But that's not first person

>>163117634
aren't you supposed to be BANNED

Thread just moved so I'll ask again here.

Is this going to be one of those "there's a story but it's just a fancy tutorial for the multiplayer" games or is the single player getting a decent amount of attention too?

I get that it might be too soon to tell but I'm just asking in case there has been any official info on it.

>>163117616
this

it's about building pressure and then when the breaking phase comes it's all out

>>163117691
I'm playing on private server, pm me and I'll help you set it up

>>163117635
it'll look exactly like that for people looking at a fight and for people fighting it'll just be a mess

all these games are like that

devs can't do anything against autist power

>>163117750
probably the former

>>163117631
the trick is to get the combos going until the moment when you know your opponent is going to parry, feint the next hit and deflect into a guard break into a juggle, mixup from there until the person is dizzy

a character that requires you to be constantly thinking ahead while dashing all over the place like a crazy person, a good one is scary as fuck

>>163117985
>the trick is to get the combos going until the moment when you know your opponent is going to parry
but how?

All it requires is 1 block to stop your momentum entirely

How does one feint?

>>163118120
press the feint button during heavy startup

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>>163118092
this plus the fact you can cancel your heavies into a dash mean you should always be able to find an entry point

If Raider zone attack would cost less stamina, he'd actually be viable

>>163118227


Holy shit there it is on the controller map, "Cancel Heavy Attack".

Thanks Anon, I'm a retard.

>>163118438
so, does that mean as soon as I execute a dodge attack I'm at full momentum?

>>163118510
it's the same button you can use to slide down ladders

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>>163117985
There is no mixup with Zerker since everybody knows that you have to use at least one light to get the chain going and you are gonna try to end with a high for most damage

>dashing all
Yes another big part of his kit
To bad it amounts to jack shit if you are in a tight place and can't use it.
I swear to god certain maps did not piss me off before i played Zerker.
Once you take away his sidedash everything just starts falling appart

It also baffles me that a character named berserker is one of the most defensive oriented classes in the game

>>163118510
most classes have much better feints than the regular feint

valkyrie and warden can dash forwards, conquerer has a full guard he can go into, berserker can feint using his dash to interrupt his heavies

make sure to look if your class has those instead of the basic B one, because they are usually better

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMZhrvTeQAM

I love this music so much, the choir makes it.

>>163118590
It means that you have at least 3 different ways to start your chain, yes

then come the feints

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>>163117337
>Not Winning 2v1

This is from the first Alpha

>>163119079
I still don't get how it works tbqhfampei

>>163119163
Did they remove the shield bash from Conq when the opponent blocks a heavy in this version or am I just remembering my games wrong?

>>163119176
you start with a heavy to probe for behavior, if they are the type to parry often you dash into them for a deflect to initiate a chain there, if they don't you either follow through with the heavy or cancel into dash attack at a 50/50 rate to confuse the opponent and initiate a chain from those

>>163119163

My favorite moment in this test was winning a 3v1 as the fat jap guy. Hit my revenge and it knocked down all 3 guys at once, then i did my charged up ublockable side swing and killed all 3 with 1 hit.

Been shitting on people as conq now in 2/3v1 the past few games, definitely die more than succeed but you can take sooo much damage and block so much it feels amazing.

>>163119163
>first Alpha
Fuck, guars changinf speed is so fast, also after being hit he can block next hit right away.

What the shit are we playing now?!

>>163117750
Well the cinematic points to it being pretty story driven, and from what we've seen it focuses less on 'Here's how stuff works' and more 'Kill some shit'.

>>163119761
a slow ass piece of shit casual garbage

with artificial limiters on top

>>163119824
>a slow ass piece of shit casual garbage

I think your parents should have beaten you

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>>163119905
my parents are dead

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Would For Honor's combat fit in the next Elder Scrolls game? Skyrims combat is trash and needs an upgrade badly.

>>163120185
Fucking anything is a step up from Skyrim's combat.

>>163120185
you could get a modder to easily implement a version of the for honor combat with a lot less polish, it wouldn't change the surplus of other non combat related issues the series faces

>>163117793
>>163117417
This.

Chivalry is exactly the fucking same, I don't see how Mordhau can prevent it.

I really fucking hate the whole guard break feature

Breaking it feels like luck more than skill

>>163121250
Literally a casual filter.

Even For Honor has feinting

>>163121642
It's not the feinting that's the issue you fucking retard.

It's the fact that "high-level" play consists exclusively of attempting to stab opponents in the dick because neither M&B nor Chivalry provides you with decent options for guarding below the waist without having to look down at the floor alongside your opponent.

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>>163121329
>that combo of horns and choir at 56 seconds in, making it sound like the vocals are reverbing hard

What time does beta end?

>>163120185
nah a tweaked fallout 4 is good enough. it already has press heavy atk at the right time to counter. unlike for honor, tes must be designed so your character can survive gang bang without a meter mechanic.

>>163122313
Whoops meant for
>>163118910

>>163122279
How many hours on chiv do you have? 50?

Getting dragged "below the waist" has literally never killed anyone.

>>163121329
Because it is. The window is like <50ms, and that's only if your opponent waits for it to connect to perform an action. If they roll an action with the break it is impossible to tech.

inb4 that retard comes in with "duel me faggot"

>>163121329
git gud anon
when you find an equal duel opponent to spar against it'll be near impossible to land a guard break unless you catch the off guard or after a parry

>>163122515
130+.

Still doesn't prevent autists from looking for any cheap hit they can. Shit, dragging shouldn't even be a thing in that game, it's fucking designed so terribly.

>>163122392
Like 22 hours from now. 5 PM EST 12/19

>>163122567
I find it to be a problem online but not a problem when i play with my bro or bots. Dont hit gb when it flash, hit it after they hit you with a gb.

>>163122567
try to guard break me
Uplay: readhed

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>>163122690
The skill ceiling would be ridiculously low without drags, anon.

Git gud.

>>163122827
if I wasn't stuck wrapping up finals, I'd rub your autistic face into the dirt.

>>163122782
P2P just kills any hope of this game being technical on any level. It's a crap shoot again faggots with Brazilian pings.

>>163122827
Like clockwork.

>>163122953
clock this, duel me
uplay: readhed

>>163122886
There's no skill in moving your mouse to the left or right to extend to length of your blow in a manner inconsistent with the laws of physics, anon.

You're just a shitter, same as the rest of them.

Also most of my playtime's in DW, when that was considered its own thing on Steam and had hours count independent of the main game somehow.

>>163119761
>Fuck, guars changinf speed is so fast
this was dumb
you literally couldn't hit a good player because the guard animation/stance didn't matter
they just made it so the characters aren't super human now

>>163123014
>There's no skill in moving your mouse to the left or right to extend to length of your blow in a manner inconsistent with the laws of physics, anon.

That's how you're stuck with a shitty combat system like Skyrim :^)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y50tVaWg618

Shitters like you will complain about everything that takes time to learn in competitive games. I can already imagine the whining about feints into guardbreak in For honor.

>>163122953
like it matters. most people play the gank modes and tourneys are local anyway.

>>163123214
it's not about taking the time to learn something, it's about the combat looking retarded as fuck for the sake of aspies cranking out efficiency through broken physics or animations

>>163123214
>takes time to learn
>literally just swinging your mouse around in-time with your attack animation and some movement to extend the point of impact a bit

it took me all of 20 minutes, autist.

>>163123342
>it took me all of 20 minutes, autist.

Not it didn't, moron. You wouldn't be complaining about it if you did.

>>163123283
>it's about the combat looking retarded as fuck for the sake of aspies cranking out efficiency through broken physics or animations
same thing happened in arena shooters, fighting games and rts. nobody complained. hell even professional sport teams buy advantages with money.
if you dont have the time and the will to practice or lack the reflex then just accept it grandpa. they arent op meta moves.

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>>163123537
>you can't both understand and employ a mechanic and think it's fucking stupid

>>163122987
have time to educate a scrub, autismo?

>>163123636
You're calling it cheap and said that you understood it in 20 minutes. You clearly didn't.

Keep whining each time a game has depth.

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>>163123612
>if you don't like the fact that both chivalry and m&b combat look dumb then you're obviously bad at it

>>163123845
sports look dumb as fuck senpai
what's this 20+ sweaty men run after a ball shit?

>>163123739
I'll be on later tonight, add me.

>>163123770
Keep digging that hole, retard.

Also, again, dragging isn't depth. It's easy bullshit, it just makes the game and every fight within look god damn stupid. Same with crotch-stabbing.

I understand why it's done, still looks like a whirling dervish of bad game design every time I partake - I mained viking with skeggox/hammer in DW, how do you think I got any fucking kills without dragging?

>>163123897
>20+ sweaty men run after a ball = knights in heavy armor spinning like beyblades

>>163123975
>dragging isn't depth.

It literally is. The game gives you way to be more creative with your swings in realtime, as opposed to being locked. It's not cheap either because you'll learn to parry it if you put in the time to learn.

>I mained viking with skeggox/hammer in DW

DW is trash tho

>>163123897
Well the main issue is Chivalry was meant to be a somewhat accurate representation of medieval warfare. Instead it looks like retard battle.

Somebody explain Shugokis uninteruptable stance mechanic to me

>>163124249
He has super armor, allowing him to eat one hit

After that one hit it's gone for about 5 seconds I think.

>>163124249
he has 1 instance of heavy armor at all times
if you light attack him once that heavy armor goes away and takes 5 seconds to recharge
during the recharge time he gets hit like any other character and takes increased damage

>>163124231
It has always been over the top. Just listen to the voice lines dude

>>163124218
The main game is trash. That's why For Honor is my new best friend.

You should really stop parroting talking points from that video, anon - moving your mouse and sidestepping a little bit isn't particularly creative, especially if it's been done a million times before.

And I could parry dragging just fine, thanks. Fighting in Chivalry still feels and looks stupid compared to FH.

>>163124394
I'm pretty sure that kind of banter was dropped on the battlefield on a regular basis. The average conversation in my area of England usually contains at least three twats and a cunt peppered in there.

where do you see the community for For Honor going? console? pc?

>>163124589
more players on console
better players on pc

>>163124656
sounds like i should go on console and just spam r1 r1 shoulder as warden and become MLG

>>163124656
This, possibly.

I have an easier time with 360 controller than keyboard/mouse, though - that said, I didn't do more than the tutorial and one real match on m/kb.

I was having the problem where it didn't seem like I was able to change my guard unless I threw my mouse all the way across my mousepad each time. It's easier and faster for me to do it with a tiny flick of the thumb.

>>163124589
This is the kind of game where crossplay should be 100% introduced. There is zero reason when the gamepad/M+K differences in skill are negligible.

>>163124231
yes and cod:modern warfare is meant to be a somewhat accurate representatioin of modern warfare.

Any way to set up the charge on shugoki to be guaranteed?

>>163124872
Can't do cross play without servers hehe

Can you play on pc with a controller?

>>163125295
Not in a real match
The only way to do it is guard breaking them into a wall while they have no stamina then charging

>>163125334
Yes a lot of people do

>>163124872
crossplay fucks netcode
look at SFV, pc v pc the connections are fine, same players but pc v ps4 the connection is shit

>>163125334
Yes, that's what most of us are doing.

>>163125474
It fucks the netcode if you're shit at developing games. Rocket League plays flawlessly with crossplay.

>>163125531
Given that Ubi hasn't exactly done a cross-play multiplayer game before and their online services are notoriously fucking atrocious, I don't trust them to get it right.

That said, they are planning on including cross-platform multiplayer for all of their upcoming VR titles. If they get it working maybe it'll get brought over to FH?

They made all the characters boring as fuck.

>>163126295
nah

Lawbringer is still fun, but only because he's terrible at even his intended role and it forces you to think of new ways to use him.

>>163126295
peacekeeper's fun
raider's fun
shugoki is fun, even if unwieldy

this general is so slow holy shit

barely any interest on /v/ either

>go to Mordhau forums out of curiosity
>find thread about For Honor, see what they think
>I now have autism.

http://mordhau.com/forum/topic/508/i-just-found-out-about-for-honor/

Also I think you'll all pretty easily deduce who the Mordhauposter is, he's the one that can't go two posts without a fucking meme.

>>163127052
What the fuck are you expecting?

It's a technical test for a game that doesn't release for 2 months, running on a limited invite system to draw a small amount of players in. Holy shit, is everyone here like this? Where's the Tylenol?

>>163123214
he is literally SWINGING HIS SWORD AT THE GROUND AWAY FROM HIS OPPONENT TO THEN QUICKLY MOVE IT INTO THE GUYS FOOT

this is the most autistic thing I have ever seen

>>163127191
>TheDankestMeme
>I get another tumor
>HEMA fags
>get shrekt
This is gonna make my lymphoma flare up and kill me.

>>163127191
>the entire forum is nothing but memes

now I want it to fail, game isn't even out and it's already got the worst community I've ever seen.

>>163127052
the open beta will be huge, I guarantee it

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>>163127780
>tfw ship to boot camp 2 days before the open beta is gonna start
>will have absolutely no computer access during training
>wont be out until 5 months after release

>>163128096
>2 days before the open beta is gonna start
wait they have an open beta date already?

>>163128096
Your fault for joining the military

>NO DEDICATED SERVERS

FACE DOWN IN THE FUCKING WATER

Ubisoft is dead to me guys, I can't deal with their shit anymore

>>163128142
the site said something about jan 5th

>>163128245
jan 5th?

Open beta? Holy shit, at least I don't have to wait long after the holidays

>>163128208
>not joining coasties or nattygs for free veteran benefits after 4 years of sitting around doing nothing
dont act dumb anon

but guys
there is no OPEN BETA, you still have to sign up for the upcoming beta

How do I Shugoki?

So far I just charge my heavy for massive damage, but it doesn't seem very skillful and should be easily countered

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>>163127191
Holy fuck this is great

>>163128096
sorry to hear man, you hang in there

Anyone wanna duel?

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>>163128096
Sounds like a personal problem to me.

Do you really want to join some gay-ass military anyway? Shouldn't you have just saved yourself the trouble and humiliation of inevitably washing out like the useless sack of shit you are?

Just stay home and play For Honor, man. Let's be Black Knights.

>>163128580
duel me
uplay: readhed

>>163128371
Sitting around and not doing anything including making decent wages and playing the newest gaems :^)

>>163128658
you're not online tho

>>163128371
Navy's good for do-nothing fields, too, same with chair force.

I want to throw people into spikes and off of cliffs. Who has the longest throw distance? Who has the easiest to land throws?

I know nothing, help me Anon.

>>163129305
raider's pretty good for throws

>>163129305
warlord literally charges you off the cliff to make sure you make it over the edge

>>163128857
good thing I didn't mention either of those branches

Fuck guard break seriously its like a fucking minigame

>>163129380
only shit thing about the navy is sometimes they want you to go do nothing on a boat for months at a time.

>>163129483
it wasn't like this in the alpha.

they fucked it

i hope they unfuck it

>>163129305
Lawbringer has good throws as well, the majority of his moves are centered around them.

Not all of them are very long-distance, but they allow for some creativity. Like baiting people into getting near you with your back against the ledge, then flipping them overboard with Long Arm.

His charge is fun, too, but decent players will be able to either dodge or block it. It's only hit me once, and now I just unlock and roll diagonally into it and the fuckers can never hit. Shit's pretty satisfying when you do it to a fellow lawbringer, knowing they damn well should know better.

>>163129745
what was it like in alpha?

>>163129745

I would like to know aswell since the current system is fucked and its better to just dodge

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>tfw they made it so you can't change spam out attacks willy nilly and still be able to put up a block on a different side of you
>tfw they made it so you actually have to be paying attention to counter a guard break
>tfw all these shitters crying

>>163129549
I'm going in for an icebreaker deployment after I graduate OSA
I love being on cold boats for months

>>163128580
what's your uplay?

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>win a 3v1 as warden on the deciding round of an elim game, on a game where you just joined that round
THIS IS HOW YOU SHOW DOMINANCE

>>163130058

Nigga what attention the current system is ass

>>163130281
t. shitter with 300ms reaction time and no reading ability

>>163129904
there was proper timing so if you pressed the button as they used it,you actually countered them

>>163130203
How play warden anon? Teach me. Im bored as fuck as valk and lawbringer and all the other shitter characters

>>163130478
LL > shoulderbash > LL > shoulderbash
abuse guard break since most bads think it's impossible to react to
congrats on your 90% winrate

>>163130167
SongSmile

>>163130478
press light attack two hit combo on side guards
shoulder barge
do it again only include a heavy attack or something else for good measure
that and his upwards guard has armour while you use it, and is unblockable if used as a counter attack, however it cannot two hit combo like his side guard light attacks
your shoulder bash is safe 80% of the time so feel free to abuse the shit out of it

>>163130698
>>163130593
Thanks. Will report back shortly.

>about to kill enemy in a 1v1
>my teammate shows up and starts spamming attacks
>interrupts my killing blow
>feeds the enemy revenge
>enemy gets revenge and kills us both while knocked down

if there's one thing this game needs, it's the ability to execute teammates for being dumb fucks.

>>163130698
>>163130593
What does his light top attack do?

>>163130921
it gives "superior block"
meaning it gives you armour frames while attacking, akin to the warlords armour while attacking but much more brief, and if an enemy attacks you in this armour period, the attack becomes unblockable

>>163130337

So 50ms is a good design choice?

>>163131128
Thanks!

>>163131229
i can react to guard break no problem

>>163129329
>>163129354
>>163129783

I'm going to do a bunch of games as these guys right now. Thanks bros.

>>163130203
sounds like some baddies, but good job

>>163130338
the timing is apparently when you get hit by them, but its not the icon indicator for some fucking reason
its really jarring and hard to time when everyones running around with at least 150-300 ping

>>163131128
i thought it was auto counter top attacks with a light? basically a way of forcing a knowledgeable player to only attack your sides, giving you a much easier time to block

>>163130017
>dodge
dodging timeframe is even tighter nigga. dodge too soon or too late and you get guard broken anyway. good fucking luck.

>>163131705
Honestly, for uniformity's sake, I'd say the timing should just be altered so it's more in-line with the icon flashing up instead of slightly beforehand.

Would probably help shitters learn the game, otherwise it'd make guardbreaks easier to read. Not certain how I feel - if things were my way, the game wouldn't even have indicators for guard/attacks, but I figure that if we can't get rid of them they might as well be used properly.

>>163130798
It's called vote kick :^)

>>163131820
ill be honest, im not too familiar with how it works, because ive only had it proc once or twice, but i believe thats how it works, getting people to hit your armour frames are a bitch tho, they are so fucking small and most warden mains mostly go for the cash money that is LL > shoulder barge > L L H

>>163130798
Isn't there friendly fire in duel/brawl mode or something?

Seemed like my friend was able to damage me, but I've only been sleeping 4-5 hours a day all week, fuck if I know whether what I saw was real or not.

>>163132167
there's no ff. you just interrupt each other.

>>163132250
there is FF but it is very small

i have been killed by allies before

>>163132250
Ive been killed by my friend before. Its really small ff damage, but its there.

>>163132250
thanks for clarifying, anon.

putting the test during the end of my finals week really fucked me over. Maybe I'll be more clear-headed in a couple weeks when the next test is on.

Heavies are not fun in this game

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>>163132358
fuck me I was right the first time.

my actual face right now. low-energy.

>>163132465
Actually all 3 heavy classes are really fun to play, anon

I don't get the difference between heavies and vanguards.

>>163132796
heavies: tank
vanguards: shock troops

>fighting all these shitters in duels
zzzZZZzzzzz

>>163133052
duel me
uplay: readhed

>>163117417
high level mount and blade sperg here, both of these guys are garbage, ground staring feint spamming is like the first thing everyone tries after they learn the basics of m&b

>>163133052
How?

a friend and I do 2v2 brawls religiously and just keep getting better opponents the more time we sink into it.

do i have to preorder this game to get in the beta? just heard about it.

>>163133269
Post your Uplay and Ill invite. Last one Ive got

Shoguki is such a noob killer holy shit

>>163133269
It's on an invite basis currently, anon. Most people here haven't preordered it.

The current test'll be ending in less than 24 hours - check it out in a couple weeks though, supposedly that's when the next test starts; there's a signup for it.. somewhere, possibly not open yet.

>>163133341
Aglitchmagnet

>be host
>land all my combos
holy shit this game needs dedicated servers bad

>>163133341
mine's w2wally but i see some fucker's beaten me to posting so he can have it

>>163133589
also teching is retarded easy as host

I just need to spam the button and I get out

>>163133625
this tech test ends tomorrow anyway

>>163133625
dw dude, i'll send you one.

>>163133759
>>163133589
idk how fast this game is but in mount and blade 110 was the absolute maximum ping you could play normally on and you definitely want below 80 or so to play competitively

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>mfw Ausfag
>Mfw no dedicated servers
>Mfw no early access

It looked so promising too, and then Ubisoft fucked it up.

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>Keep trying classes I can get the handle off
>mostly the knights since everyone is like knights rule
>I literally cant get behind alot of the knights
>Decide to try kensei and Berserker
>Actually land parries and counter guard blocks suddenly
>landing combos and kills like crazy
>lol DEUS VULT GUIZ weebs and nordics suck go knight

Last time I listen to the majority of a general

>remove agiles

There I just fixed the game.

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>>163135006
>he cant parry with warden, lawbringer, or conqueror

>>163135182

I really dont know why

>>163135006
kensei is a respectable choice

>>163135271
practice against AI anon

>>163135461
so is berserker, the class is so horribly bad omg

>>163135182
Majority of "go knight lmao" players are playing Peacekeeper, their opinions are irrelevant because they're shitters.

Wardens, Lawbringers, and Conquerors are the only opinions worth a damn - many of which have been playing and enjoying heroes from other factions as well.

I like Lawman, but Kensei and Warden are my niggas as well. Raider's pretty cool too.

>>163135271
>I really dont know why
latency

being host makes shit super easy

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>tfw nobody likes playing against warlord because dude headbutts lmao

I main Lawbringer and Warlord, the best characters.

>>163135520
Berserker is the best assassin in the game though?

>>163135575
How do you even deal damage as Kensei?

All you have is the unblockable overhead, all the other shit is way too slow, and even the unblockable can be dodged with ease.

>>163135719
Im in love with warlord until i have to fight an agile then im ready to go firebomb ubisoft

>>163135743
literally how?

I was wiping the floor with a lvl 19 berserker on my lvl 11 raider a couple of hours ago.

>>163135747
Same way you do as lawbringer.

Parry and punish. Alternatively, start guard-breaking and getting in there.

I must be a masochist because I only like the classes that make you work for fucking everything.

Wait am I retarded

You can only parry overhead attacks?

>>163136276
Yes

No

>>163136276
you're retarded

>>163136313

I feel like I gotta fight the level 3 bot for like 100 hours to even get good

>>163136276
No, you can parry every attack that has a direction (so excluding headbutts and leg sweeps etc.)

>>163136276
you can parry from any direction

>>163135897
>parry
dropped

>>163136402
why are you fighting bots at all
such a waste of time

>>163136474
they're good for learning guard break counter, block and parry

>>163136474

How do I practice combos and battles if I cant do them correctly?

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>when you feint someone as berserker but all your attacks are heavies so the other guy hit's you first
Just delete this shit class already
Literally no point when Valk, Orochi and poison cunt exist

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>playing lawbringer
>somehow land an overhead heavy on a dumb peacekeeper

fuck that felt good, I'd never gotten to do the long arm combo the way it's supposed to be used.

>>163136590
>berserker

>>163136582
Dominion

>>163136590
his deflect is a free guardbreak

just git gud

I feel like combot is mostly guard breaking and parrying

Was it always like this? I remember more fun basic blocking combat before now its mostly whos more hoped up than the other

>>163136851
My guard breaks rarely works first too.

Its such shit. Ill hit it and then they grab me.

>>163136851

git gud faggot XD


This general is gonna be insufferable already

>>163136687
Yea and Orochi and Valk has that too but with better range and more utility

Fuck off

>>163136851
>I remember more fun basic blocking combat before
?
How do you hit someone in this "basic blocking combat" world you remember? Hope they aren't paying attention to your attacks?

>>163136951
the berserker has massive damage on his overhead

infinite chain is pretty sick if you can get it going too

>>163136851

Thats mostly when you actually face who know what to do and its fucking shit

Its really making me on the edge of buying this game like I want them to tweak the combat but I dont know what they can do

The game is just gonna get a hardcore following while everyone stomps shitters and many would say thats a good thing but at the same time I dont think the game should go down that path.

>>163137108
Anybody even half decent will pary the overhead every fucking time
Same story with the "infinite chian" since you can easily break the light and parry the rest

Utter trash hero

>>163137263
bet i can land the overhead on you
uplay: readhed

>>163137226
This

Its gonna be chivalry 2.0 fast

Also keep in mind there is literally items that increase damage and you can buy them for money

Sorry guys, but its gonna be p2w

>>163137263
don't start the infinite chain with a light attack bro

if you guardbreak someone and throw him into a wall you get a free heavy attack too

>>163137472
ranked won't have gear stats

but yeah, the hardcore players will shit on the more casual

game is dead on arrival if it keeps the shitty P2P system too

>>163137226
>>163137614

Its bound to happen Im on the edge of buying the game aswell but the hardcore following will develop right away since the shitters will get stomped 6 ways from Sunday and while they leave the games population will dwindle

>>163137515
The same shit can be said by every class

Just admit he has nothing that someone can't do better

>>163137472
>>163137682
>>163137226


Get fucking good or get out

You shitters cant parry or guardbreak so you deserve to get shit on

How in the fuck does Dominion even work? You lose points when you take stuff? Something happens at 1,000 points? I'm lost. I just kill stuff and take points and hope for the best.

>>163137842

I cant wait till I see this general die 2 months after release

>>163138038
the enemy team starts breaking once you reach 1000 points

>>163138038
Is your IQ in the low 80s?

>>163137842
Confirmed doa

>>163137842

Im not saying a hardcore following is bad.

but as it stands this system will pretty much let people who know how to guard break/parry religiously unlimited power all I ask is maybe be more liberal with the times or just fix the netcode.

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>>163138321

I bet your one of those fags who want the old guard break and parry back.

Well you are not getting that shitter its perfect now and lets actual good players clean house while shitters like you complain in a Mongolian scripture forum.

>>163137842
>shitters get stomped by anyone with ounce of skill
>shitters go to the forums and complain
>devs check their own data
>see that some classes win way more than others
>balancechanges.exe
>skill ceiling lowers
>shitters keep getting stomped
>complain more
>morenerfs.bat
>skilled players get bored and leave
>shitters leave because bored
>200 hard core players remain
>game is abandoned after a year

Unless you have a very dedicated fanbase running their own tournaments and shit this is inevitable.

Besides, the game is so heavily depending on reaction speed and latency that anything other than dedicated servers could kill the game even quicker. Not just because some people will have a bad connection or a bad PC but because host advantage is a real thing with massive impact.

>winning match with 2 bots
>player orochi joins
>start losing match
>lose match
>player orochi ends up with 0/2/8

why is votekicking not a thing?

>>163138479
>tfw they might revert to the old shitty combat because of all the complaints
I have hope that they'll keep it the way it is but only because it's ubisoft montreal.

>>163139371

I mean the old system wasnt shit ill call it that

>>163139794
nani?

>>163139882

I mean it was easier to understand and felt "better"

>>163139923
How was it easier to understand? It only feels better to players with bad reaction time or those who don't understand why they can't immediately block in any direction they chose mid action

>>163140001
wait, you could block cancel previously?

lol

>>163140001

Well the reaction speed was better im fucking 23 and still the times to do shit are insane I feel like its mostly luck when I pull a counter guard break off

>>163140123
I can't even tell if I'm good or if people I'm fighting just have shit latency

>>163140325
Or if you're hosting or if that guy with a 10:1 kdr is hosting or really good or just lucky or playing an OP class etc.

>>163140325
>>163140123

So essentially this games fucked either way

>still can't figure out how to save resized symbols in my emblem
I'm getting upset

>>163140123
Anon I'm not memeing but it really is easy to counter guard break even right now. You just have to ready for it. I'm assuming everyone complaining uses a controller. I just have guard break on R and hover it whenever I'm not moving right. Very rarely do I get guard broken.

What are you supposed to do as nobushi when you get parries off.

I've been doing this and then just unable to follow up with anything

dont suppose anyone has any invites left for the final day?

>>163141561
What am I supposed to do against nobushi when you get parries off.

I've been doing this and then just unable to follow up with anything

>>163141621

What is he supposed to do as nobushi when you gets parries off.

I've been doing this and then just unable to follow up with anything

>>163117985
>break into a juggle

You are just throwing out random terms without knowing what they mean now. Babies first fighting game so it is acceptable.

>>163141621
That depends on the class you play

My problem with playing as nobushi is Im not sure what the follow up should be

>>163142234
I meant more in the "slam him into a wall and follow with your shit from there" kind of way

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WHERE ARE THE WEBMS AT?

WHERE'S ANY GAMEPLAY OF THE NEW CLASSES AT FOR THAT MATTER?

>>163142782
watermarks

watermarks everywhere

>>163142782
NDA
D
A

>>163142782
I would but ReLive don't work for this shit right yet
It just captures my other screen

>>163142782
you will simply have to trust us that it's fun

because we sure as hell can't show you

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>prestige 3 valkyrie turbo shitter asking for buffs on the forum
>also wants warden nerfed

>>163143617
I play valk too but how do you get to prestige 3 without realizing the state of the game you're playing, jesus christ what a fuckin loser

raider most underrated class

>>163143889
no he isn't

>>163143889
>raider
>RMB spam the class
kys saracen

God the core game is so much fun I really hope it succeeds but there are a few major things Ubisoft needs to address to help it along. Peer to peer is garbo, dedicated servers are a must for release. Mmatchmaking times are way too long although I understand that it's low population right now. It's just stupid how if only a couple of people stick around after a match it kicks them from the queue rather than adding them back to it automatically. Finally, they really need to not go full jew with the business model. If it's gonna be full retail price I think microtransactions are really shit, but I could even live with them if it was only cosmetic shit. If it goes p2w but not f2p it'll be dead in the water.
-

>>163144562
>spamming heavy
>with raider
toplel m80

>>163144702
that's literally what every raider does if they're not trying to get their super punishable dash grapple

>>163141607
i got one what's your uplay

>>163144774
le heavy feint into dash light faec

Anyone looking to d-d-d-duel?

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>>163143889
Im gonna have to break it down for you hard son
>Good classes
Valk, Orochi, Memekeeper

>Decent classes
Warden and Kensei

>Trash tier
Everyone else

We might as well come to termes with it now.
The game is broken on a fundamental level that enables agiles

>>163145529
>orochi good
naaaaaaaaaaaah

>>163145657
t. cockrochi main

>>163145529
that's what I'm saying

raider is at least warden + kensei tier

fuck, I'd rate it above kensei honestly

>>163145686
nah I'm saying that as someone who's slaughtered countless japs as berserker

either orochi players have gotten worse or those nerfs hit way too hard

>>163145657
orochi is the only thing fucking up my peacekeeper

>>163145687
>Raider above Kensei
How?
Kensei has all of Raiders shit except the carry but just overall more utility

>>163145791
You're gonna have to highlight exactly what's fucking you up because I just don't understand what orochi does so good that it'd fuck up a peacekeeper

>>163145982
doesn't have the on demand stun

>>163146045
Gaurdbreak into gaurdbreak for a stun
So yes

>>163146148
Raider can do it without having to guardbreak and he can also feint a heavy into it though. A little more flexibility there

>>163146206
Yea the feint is cool and all but it's not like you couldn't do that with just a normal heavy with Kensei
Raider doesn't have a sidesweap or a armor move either

So basically do I just focus on getting counter guardbreak and parrying down and forget combos?

>>163145989
quick gap closer which can attack from both sides
stronger punish after deflect than peacekeeper (keeper does pathetic damage, even if you factor in bleed)
even if you don't deflect guaranteed damage after an evade

>>163146206
+ the raider stun is super quick and can be used to close gaps and punish after evade AND it drains a lot more stamina, like 3/4 of a bar

raider unblockable is a wide area sweep more likely to hit and harder to evade than the kensei where you literally just need to sidestep

>>163146424
you focus on punishing openings and observing your opponent
one of the first real thing newbies learn in actual fighting games is
>what is my most reliable punish damage?
Guard breaks are generally a free heavy. Parries can most of the time lead to an un-techable guard break or some other combo. Learn what tools your character has and figure out how to use them effectively

>>163146424
like 50% of combos listed ingame are noob traps, you're never gonna pull them off

so, yes, learn how to guard break, counter guard break, evade and parry

>>163146598

I still cant shake this game is a fighting game

>>163146424
there's no such thing as "combos"

you will never link those attacks past the first two, any more than that is a guaranteed parry and frankly even a second attack is already risking it

>>163146692
>>163146598
so after mastering For Honor, what would my next step up in the fighting game ladder be?

>>163146837
gang beasts

>>163146878
>early access
>steam
>looks ass
nope

>>163146437
I mean those are just really basic fundamentals, his dash is shit and can be deflected 100% of the time, your side attacks are extremely quick and can't be easily deflected by his on the other hand, and he doesn't have other gimmicks that could be considered gamechanging

and although you can't count on your guard break damage, when it does land you're talkin easy 40% with very little effort

>>163122827
>>163122987
>>163128658
>>163137323
you should probably pretend to be me when i'm online bro

>>163147182
say that in a duel and not online, see what happens
uplay: readhed

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>>163147141
>your side attacks are extremely quick and can't be easily deflected by his on the other hand
no need to deflect, the way an orochi spins around while side dashing turns your short range daggers into a whiff which leaves you open for his hit to connect even without deflection

>his dash is shit and can be deflected 100% of the time
I'm talking about the *sheathes katana* move. If an orochi times this right he will evade your guard break and hit you while you're still stuck missing your grab.

I like this game but at the same time on the fence for buying it since combat is just fucking mindless QTEs and timing

I dont know if its becasue I play to much FPS but I was expecting Dark souls not fighting game

>>163147375
that's also the move I'm talkin about, baiting it out with a feint and then deflecting should be your main source of deflect damage

I wouldn't be surprised if he can just ourange your jump heavy with it though, must such to have that sealed

>>163147545
>I wouldn't be surprised if he can just ourange your jump heavy with it though
jump heavy is useless anyway because it's so easily evaded. The sidestep is like the #1 move orochi's pull.

>main source of deflect damage
deflect dmg is abysmal as peacekeeper

How many hours until tech test is over?

>>163147783
15 I think

>>163147783
5 pm EST

>>163147447

I feel like if they extend the counter guardblock a littlebit then more people will like the game

>>163147920
dedicated servers will fix that problem

without it the game is doomed anyway

>>163148041

Damn that sucks I dont want to just play Siege since the beta has gotten me interested in this game

Also whats to stop me from making a hack to always counter guard break or parry?

>>163148041
No confirmation of servers yet right?

>>163147783
>>163147902
8PM EST

>>163148284

nothing really I wouldnt be shocked if they already made some

d

Ran into a 4th prestige orochi in elimination of all modes. Other than being hyper passive how do you generally stop a a good one or does it come down to figuring out the player? I have feints and parries down but all the dashes make it hard to even let out a swing.

Made me remember why I hate agile classes so much.

>>163151805
depends on the character you're using

>>163152191
Had two rounds with the first as lawbringer, second as warden but got jumped by his buddies.

>>163146837
street fighter 5 is literally one rung up the ladder. it's just as simple but has combos now.

>Playing a bunch of 2v2
>Guy on my team is cool
>Warden on the other team is chill as fuck
>Other guy on the enemy team is literally steaming
I'm pretty shit and was working on getting better at conq because deus vult but the guy was being gay as fuck and switching between orochi and valk.
I felt bad for my team mate because I'm shit and I could get the warden down to half sometimes but the valk/orochi guy was just fucking autisitc

>>163153289
Harder inputs tho. Getting into fightstick territory.

>>163152704
lawbringer is slow so you're kinda forced to play defensively.
use feints to get them to approach.
if you block a dodge attack you should immediately guard break.

warden has an easier time because he has good damage and mixup.
he can also harass with zone attack and overhead light to an extent.

>>163153443
SFV Capcom Cup champion won using a DS4.

>>163153592
There's a reason "pad warriors" are a meme though. The very fact that a tourney winner using a pad is notable in any way illustrates the point.

>>163153691
No not really.
Pad meme died with SF4.

>playing conq in 2v2s
>Parry a raiders unblockable, break him and throw him into a corner
>heavy, bash, wallbounce X3
>Like 60% hp gone
Goddam I love being a bully.
>Parry or mindgame a break
>Throw into a wall
>Heavy, bash
>Depending on the class you can seriously combo until you're out of stamina or the next bash wont bounce them

>>163148415
>>163148415
So which is it??

>>163156721
In the email I got when invited it said it ends at 8pm EST.

wtf does upgrading points even mean, is it just that +2 point increase where I have to jack off in the back of the map, hoping my team isn't shitting itself?

>>163157117
I don't think upgrading capture points is in the game yet.

>>163157117
I dunno. That's just boosting the point, and I think those points are permanent. Like you get the 2pts/sec which are a permanently added to your team's score.

>>163157982
they're permanently added, but you have to STAY on the point to keep getting +2

>>163157174
wtf will it even do, I don't recall ever seeing anything actually explaining this par.
It'd be nice if it gave you a higher trickle of units / super units so that you could have a chance of holding B a lot longer.

>>163158306
that's what i assume that it will do
they have "super units" in skirmish mode already

>>163156721
>>163148415
Read the alpha page retards

>The For Honor’s Technical Test 2 begins on December 14th at 9 h AM EST / 2 h PM GMT and runs through December 19th at 5 h PM EST / December 19th 22 h GMT.

mm just died for me
Game done?

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>>163158467
This is what's in the email too.

Still got 13 hours lads.

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>>163158595
strange

>>163158386
True, i've seen them a few times. Not sure how they stack up against basic units, but as long as they can stop it from swaying back and forth on it's own it could be nice, since it would force them to deal with it while you can split for both A and C

Conq is most fun for shitting on people who don't understand how hard he has to turtle to be useful
Warden is most fun for being the best looking motherfucker on the field and kicking ass at the same time

Debate me.

>>163159672
I wish conq had a mace or something, instead of a flail. :(

>>163159771
a mace would be really short range for a heavy class and two handed maces look stupid imo

>>163159771
flail feels better because it gets momentum for big hurt
mace is boring just stick with heavy on

with that in mind conq's light should be him hitting the enemy with the hilt of his flail

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>Players that just run away from you each time they get hit
>Chase them with Lawbringer and impale them with sprint charge each time they try to run

>>163159771
>the smaller toolkit of the conq with the shitty range of the warlord
>lose out on the only class where all three executions are fucking great
No thank you. Please to not touch my based motherfucker.

>>163159859
The only bad part about it being a flail is that physics are real time during that intro where the characters swing back their weapons, so the chain and ball just sort of... hang there limply

>pop revenge mode
>die from a single heavy attack

???

>>163161321
nothin personel

Why is the Lawbringer such shit? There's literally nothing you can do to someone who parries your attacks. Shove + guardbreak is your only hope of doing some damage, but after 2-3 times of doing that they will just counter every guardbreak.

I have warden at prestige 2 now and I still struggle to land the top counter
I can parry just fine but every time I try the top counter I get hit
any tips for that?

>>163162191
>There's literally nothing you can do to someone who parries your attacks
same for every classes
the answer is always feinting into mixup

What's a good way to counter Valkyrie as a Peacekeeper? dat fucking range