/egg/ - Engineering Games General - Formerly /svgg/

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>>163044947
1st for clenk

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3th for accidentally posting in the ded thred
>build 5x5x8 fuel engine
>anywhere from like 4k to 6k power depending on whether you use injectors or carbs, how well you design it, etc
>build 5x5x8 steam engine
>have no understanding of steam engines beyond bare basics and no idea what I'm doing
>well over 16k power
What the fuck is Nick's endgame here?

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>>163047304
how many resources/s does it eat?

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>>163047304
Steam is the CRAM of engines, so of course it's going to be dumb and powerful

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>>163048067

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Inventory menu wew

>>163047927
1 mat/s for each boiler, for a total of 13. Which puts its equivalent fuel efficiency at somewhere between *screams externally* and *screams eternally* depending on your refineries, but apparently that's par for the course with steam engines.

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>>163048491
>A LOT LIKE CAMPING
Gets me every time

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>>163050054

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>>163047304
>What the fuck is Nick's endgame here?

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>>163050887
The shittiest ultimate form

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Engineering freedom.

>>163050887
steampunk is for fags and weebs

17th for gas the devs

>>163052843
Fuck off to /k/ retard

>>163052843
Arma 3?

>>163054012
That's an actual video, Anon. Dillon makes the miniguns on there.

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>>163052843
>the ricocheting tracers
Ohh baby yes

>>163050887
It's simple really, the goal of all engineering game designers is to make the game realistic enough that in addition to selling the game, they can sell engineering services from thousands of autists working for free

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>>163047304
>5x5x8
>well over 16k power
>>163049954
>13 mats/sec

Steam's a bit better then that.
5x5x8
12.8 mats/sec
26k power

>>163056463
what happens to steam engines when they get hit?

>>163056767
>CLANG
If you lose pistons the remaining ones are forced to take up the load and if they are driven past 1800RPM they'll CLANG to pieces. If you lose boilers the piston's RPMs will drop and your engine power will decline. If the steam carrying pipes are damaged you'll lose pressure (and thus piston RPM's) until you basically have no engine power.

>>163057719
The boilers don't explode when hit?

>>163058741
>expecting nick to not be lazy
Also
>steam engines
>reciprocating instead of turbine

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>>163058741
What did you expect?

For nick to have something make sense?

>>163058741
Nope, not even an expanding cloud of steam. Pipes will shoot out a continuous jet of steam when severed but there are no explosions to be had.
>>163059018
Is that a boiler or an ammo rack detonating there?

>>163059161
Just the boiler. It'd be black and sooty if it were the cordite going off.

The Space Engineers wipe pissed me off.
What game to play next?

>>163059335
Continue playing spemgos.
It is only way, anon.

>>163059246
Damn that's actually pretty impressive. On the surface one wouldn't believe that compressed steam expanding could cause a mostly steel warship to warp and bow and twist so dramatically.

>>163059445
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w34fSnJNP-4

>tfw no interspacewar period

>>163059639
Only if you're ignorant to the power of steam and the operating pressure of a warship's powerplant. Everyone else recognizes they are mini-nukes.

>>163059941
My mother used to bitch about it all the time, being an inspector of high pressure vessels in the oil industry. She's seen entire shops and plans nearly leveled by a single boiler going nuclear.

>>163059941
My eyes are opened to the true power of CLANG.

SPENGIES STEAM ENGINES WHEN?

>>163060058
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pEwxguHUi_U

>>163060603
Why tho? Spongo technology includes a roughly 2.5 meter square nuclear fission reactor that can run without irradiating everything else around it and gravity manipulation technology.

>>163060779
>a timer is larger than a fridge

>>163060779
FISSION STEAM
WE COLD WAR REACTORS NOW BOYS

>>163060058

Steam aint nothin to fuck with Anon. On Mythbusters they blew up a common hotwater heater thats found in EVERYONES home.

They took off/welded shut the safety release valve that would automatically bleed off excess pressure.

It takes off like a fucking bullet and blasts through the tiny hut they built over it to simulate it being in a house, and it flys skyward and doesnt hit the ground for like 15 seconds.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bU-I2ZiML0

And this is just a small household water heater. Imagine a boiler the size of a small house going critical. Its why you see those accident sin the news once in a while at places like mills and other such companies where an entire plant is leveled and everyone inside the building is killed.

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>>163061379
I was about to ask why they don't use this in rockets.
Then i realized rockets are just giant fucking boilers with aim for control and going to space

>>163056767
half life 3 gets delayed another year

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>Small gunbote cruising easily in choppy seas

Hydrofoils are your friend

>>163062263
If there's no white foam on top of the waves, then the sea is can be considered calm.
I know, I know. It's a fucking game.

>>163047304
>>163062263
what game is this?
is it free?

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>>163065191

>>163065191
From the Depths

not free

>>163065451
>>163065454
>first answer gets me a meme image i've been looking for for ages after deleting a folder with it in
>second answer gives me the actual answer
based /egg/ always under promising and over delivering

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>>163065553
m8
c'mon

>>163065708
i didn't know i was missing it or wanting it until i saw it
its like when $5 falls out of your pocket in your driveway when you walk out the door and when you go home you find it out front and you're like "neat i found $5" then you go to put it back and you realise it's your original one.

>>163065708
This
I can't search for the image that's a transparent/Yotsuba B background stick man with a deadpan expression and arms outstretched to the right, used when proposing something.

I could have found that in two seconds.

>>163061379
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4y802_Ot-k

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>>163035137
The SJW craze happened. Renard went tranny and it all went to shit. I'd say Rotteen is still at least partially good, but he really has declined.

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deepwater guard btfo

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>>163070378
You sure showed them.

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ded

Starmade NPC Faction update is out

>https://www.star-made.org/news/starmade-v0-199-349-npc-faction-update

Maybe it has actual game now.

>>163073546
>no npc crew
Dropped.

>>163072907
Sauce?

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Anyone here playing Astroneer?
I found this antena next to a crashed booster but can't find any use for it, can't research it either but it still fits into foundation and vehicle slots.

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>>163075635
Take the habitat off that shuttle immediately.
!!FUN!! happens otherwise

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>>163075708

>>163075708
That looks fun.
I don't have that wide base yet, I figured I might need habitat if I gonna use shuttle to establish a new base someplace else.

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>>163076070
You can use the ship itself as a base. There is no need for a habitat, one which, when you save and play again, will automatically root down and make a fucking mess.

>>163070625
At least he was courteous enough to be indicating right as he changed lanes.

Driver definitely wasn't Asian.

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Hit a dead end with the cruise missile. It's apparently impossible to turn it in any controlled manner. The problem seems to be with the game itself since the missile works in slow mo but not in real time.

>>163078318
I tried to build one after you, I ragequit in the end because of the games horrendous PID control

>>163076216
>Astroneer discovers method to vacuum up clouds

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I didn't realise that the coating had come off, no wonder it was so hard to solder with.

Am I a retard?

>>163073546
The idea that eventually to trade with others we will have to send our own trade envoy has me very erect.

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>>163078727

>people will just missile spam your trade frieghters to death and steal cargo, or build cheap disposable stations covered in turrets in the middle of your trade routes to kill your AI trade ships

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>>163078471
The problem with this one isn't PIDs it's that the ai can't steer the missile using complex controller commands.

This is a friendly reminder that astroneer isn't an /egg/ game

With that being said, i don't really mind it being posted here because in the end you'll help other people realize how empty and shallow the game is

>>163079236
Can you be any more mad that someone else is playing a game you don't like in your general virtual vicinity?

>>163079195
how is your roll rock steady? I just couldn't get mine to do that. When I tried using PID and roll control, it would eventually stabilise then go full spastic as one of the variables hits a singularity (no demand) and throws it sideways into the sea.

>>163079323
The roll pid is on default settings. it had a roll problem when I tried a bad combination of ailerons and jet stabilizers.

>>163079270
Did i say i don't like the game?

I like the game in the same way i like elite dangerous. It's pretty to look at and fun for a while but in the end it's Just Another Grind.

>>163061045
>windows smaller than 2.5m x 2.5m are a lost art

Does anyone has a working Reactor blueprint for Factorio? Or any useful blueprint.

>>163078697
Just take a file and remove the rust then recoat.

>>163079195
Are you using the navel AI? Because fuck the plane one.

>>163083221
recoat with what?

>>163083651
solder nigger. It's made of solid metal, just file it if it's blunt, dirty, corroded, dirty etc. Or buy a new tip which usually is cheap. Also go to >>>/diy/, it's slow but a very good board even after 2016 when /pol/fags ruined everything.

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Hold onto your balls there's been a breakthrough. It needed more weight in the front like an arrow.

jesus christ that literally took days. At least it's pretty fucking sweet now.

>>163083985
I would like a copy of this.

>>163079270
>mad that someone is playing a game you don't like
No you retard, generals get deleted for shit like this, fuck off, stop shilling your piece of shit in these threads.

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>tfw no pop-up headlight blocks
>tfw no vanilla small glass
>tfw no reasonably sized wheels
why must keen shit on muh 'stetics

>>163052843
Hi /gtag/

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>>163082749
>Factorio
>Reactor

>>163086431
I assume he means gotlag's reactor mod, or something.

>>163086431
The Reactor mod by GotLag. I'm a retard when it comes to circuit stuff and I was hoping another anon has already figured it out.

This thread is so dead that it hurts.

D

skubmade crew update when

>>163084516
Well, its definitely /svgg/ and if devs don't run with the shekels they will be adding some logic/automation stuff as well.

>>163093242
please go and stay go

it's about as much /svgg/ as subnautica or rust or fucking no man's sky

>>163093242
/svgg/ is
>space
>voxel
>games
>general
Starmade is /svgg/
Spengies is /svgg/
Empyrion is /svgg/
Avorion is /svgg/
Astroneer is like osirus, or rust, or subnaughtica.
Fun, but not /egg/, at all.

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>>163090696
That's where you're wrong anon.
Death is a final, peaceful drift away from this extended bullshit that is life

>>163094028
See what you mean about space part.

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>>163094409
>See what you mean about space part.
What did they mean by this?

Space games are not /egg/
Space VOXEL games are automatically /egg/

>>163094409
>>163094508
Another example would be Moonbase Alpha, which is fun and has spawned many a stupid catchphrase for vidya spacefarers, but is not /egg/.

I still want a text-to-speech function to be mandatory for all space games

>>163094746
o no another Chinese earthquake

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>>163094508
>space voxel games
Okay, then let's look at the OP.
What is Algodoo doing there? What is Besiege doing there? What is CODE doing there? What is Factorio doing there? What is From The Depths doing there? What is Homebrew doing there? What is CONSTRUCTOR doing there? What is Machinecraft doing there? What is REM doing there? What is Robot Arena 2 doing there? What is Scrap Mechanic doing there? What is SHENZHEN doing there?

We're not /svgg/ anymore, not in the least. There isn't even corneroids in the OP.
This retarded arguing about what is and isn't "/egg/" is beyond fucking retarded. It's sad. The fact is that Astroneer hasn't the attention or community to have its own general, hell, not even a thread on /v/, just like Space Engine - which, by the way, would happily fit under /svgg/ terms even though it has no gameplay. I see zero harm in a few posts in a several hundred posts about some slightly unrelated, albeit fun game. Throwing an autistic shitfit, like one or two mentally deficient motherfuckers here just love to do, is plain sad and doesn't help anyone. Spirit of the law, not the letter.

>>163095414
This general is the only place I've ever seen people give legitimate reasons for thier argument.

>>163095414
It's not about that.
Posting about a game that doesn't belong in /egg/ is fine, like back when osirus was the hot new meme and a few anons, including Ced were playing it a bit.
Going "Look at this game, look at how fun it it is, etc." reeks of someone trying to shove a wedge in between /egg/ and /svgg/, which /kspg/ has done in the past, specifically, to try and steal factorio.
Wasting precious image slots on blank posts about a non-/egg/ game is just not right.

>>163047304
Is this ftd?

>>163094508
Well astroneer is both, voxel and "space".

But there's no manual flight, or really any spaceship designing for it to be proper space.

>>163095795
>wasting
>on a free service
Nigger, what?

>>163095795
>Wasting precious image slots
Dude
We've had more than one thread where we hit image limit BEFORE bump limit recently

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>>163095527
Oh yes, they do. Only after some fucktard spergs out all about it, though.

In fact, while at it, Terratech does fit in here, doesn't it?
If it does, Astroneer does as well. It's basically the same game, except with the focus spread around differently. Roughly. Very roughly.

>>163095795
Wasting? How can you waste something of which we have an arguably infinite supply? Are you trying to make up objective reasons as to why something doesn't fit? Because you're failing. There's no wasting. There's no "shoving a wedge" between the current name of the general and the previous general. And this does not at all equate to splitting a game away from this thread entirely, it's the exact opposite.
If you're too /v/ to deal with something new, some game that people might actually possibly - god forbid - like to play instead of complain endlessly about, and post about it as if they actually like it (the so called shilling), maybe you should take a break.

And besides, the exact same applies to REM. It "isn't /egg/," like you would say, and the retards defending it are the loudest I've ever seen. It's "shoving more of a wedge" than Astroneer or Factorio or anything has ever done with its self-masturbatory "podcast" and "shilling" by apparently just one very loud guy. But I don't complain because, hey, maybe it'll become something other than another opportunity for some pederast mongoloid to post feline genitals.

>>163095414
go shill in /v/, you'll get more attention there

the ships need to be made of voxels or similarly customizable on an infinite level for it to be a space voxel game, and also need to be pilotable. astroneer isn't a space voxel game.

for it to be an egg game the creations need to be made of voxels or similarly customizable on an infinite level, and also need to be pilotable. astroneer isn't an /egg/ game.

factorio and the zachtronics games are anomalies and should remain anomalies. all other games fit. astroneer does not.

>>163095414
>What is From The Depths doing there?
You can build shit in space in FtD, so tecnically it's /svgg/. It's not our fault that most people decide to build things in the planet's oceans instead of in space :^)

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>>163096796
the only one getting worked up here is you

>>163096935
The only difference with space in FTD is that you violate the laws of physics just a little bit more than usual, otherwise there's nothing there.

>>163096796
>Terratech does fit in here, doesn't it?
...does it?
I'm actually asking properly here, I never see anyone posting about it besides when talking about how basic certain games are compared to others.

Plus now Robocraft is even deader than the general and nobody here plays any more, it's got less reason to get 'allowed'

>>163097283
I think the mods literally banned the general, so it's actually quite dangerous to talk about

>>163097374
If we're going to be overly open about the definition, terratech probably fits. BUT, this is because of the block building aspect of it, which is something astroneer lacks.

>>163078727
But why would we want to trade with others?
For trade to occur, there must be a (local) scarcity of one resource, or significant value increase by higher levels of refining.
However, all resources are readily accessible, and production is incredibly fast.
The end result is that anyone gathering raw materials will have little incentive to sell them to other players.

>>163099151
resource scarcity is very much a possibility in starmade.

if you build your fleets with blue ships that fire missiles, you're going to eventually run very low on those resources in your vicinity and have an excess of the resources you don't have much use for, so you can trade the non-blue paint and the non-missile relevant capsules to whatever faction needs them

>astroneer is /egg/
I'd prefer if you astrofar away from here.

>>163099421
>an excess of the resources you don't have much use for
Why wouldn't I just build a new ship with said excess resources?
If missiles are just meta, then surely everyone else will have excess of the same resources, and thus not willing to buy more.

>>163099648
hopefully you're enough of an autistic roleplayer to not realize this

but most people are power gamers and will make their ships out of grey armor with the most metagame weaponry and broken exploits they can find

how to delete shit in astroneer

>>163083985
Post blueprints faggot

YO MOTHERFUCKERS

EMPYRION 5.0 EXPERIMENTAL BUILD IS OUT

Do we have an Empyrion steamgruppen for when 5.0 hits? Also with alliances now officially in, we can do sneaky shit like make splinter factions that aren't "officially" connected to the main /egg/ faction but still secretly supporting them.

Love the disassemble feature that they added in. Shame the low-tech vehicle drill doesnt really work, but at least the drill turrets are dope.

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>>163095414
I forgot Robot Arena 2 was even still in the OP, I thought I got rid of it

>>163038196
>Quantum computers are shite at deterministic calculations with a single correct answer, anon. They're like analog computers

Wait, isn't that the very reason why they are being built? To find out stuff like the two component primes of a number used in (i assume most) encryption protocols?
Stuff like: 35, find the two primes, 5,7 but for much larger numbers. That looks deterministic enough and with a single right answer (a pair of numbers).

You sure you're not thinking of fuzzy logic?

>>163095414
We should probably make a flow chart to easily divide what is and isn't suitable for the thread.
Things like Scrap Mechanic aren't particularly complex, but it involves physics and mechanisms that can be assembled by the player and carry out mechanical functions that aren't pre-programmed (which is the basic idea of an 'engineering game'), so it fits in just fine when people are actually playing it (which isn't that often, which is why it's in this amalgamation thread rather than one of its' own).

Something like:
>Are there physics that cause interactions between objects and/or the landscape?
>Can some objects carry out more complex functions when placed together in one or more ways?
>Does it have too small a playerbase to sustain its' own general to bump limit?
>If yes to all, you're in, start CLANGposting

That sort of thing.
As annoying as it is, we do actually need a definition of the thread to be allowed to exist by mods (and to not constantly start arguments, again).

>>163099648
That's great anon, but you're the autist who can't read.
What you're saying doesn't answer my question or refute my counterpoint.
We're still stuck at you arguing that resource scarcity can occur.

>>163073546
Now single player is more populated than your average server. Time to raid some NPC scrubs

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>>163103509
He's bullshitting.
The problem with quantum computing is that it's very inaccurate in comparison to normal digital computers. Extremely inaccurate for any modern system

Qubits work basically in ratios. Normal bits always have a 100% probability of being 1 or 0, high or low. Qubits are either 1, 0 or something inbetween. A qubit can be 0.7, or 70:30. 0.01 or 1:99. A 0,01 qubit has a 1 to 99 chance of being "up" when observed, and 99 chances out of a hundred to be "down". Quantum computing multiplies and divides differing qubits, computing with that chance and at the very end, multiplies the output by itself to get either a 0 or 1, because otherwise you would likely get something near 50:50. The problem with that is that it will never be 100% to 0%. It makes the system work great for probability itself and some difficult areas of mathematics where quantum effects are necessary, but there is never a 100% chance that you will get the output you want, and that's just for a single calculation.
That's the problem with quantum computers, not that they analog or such bullcrap. They're itchy trigger fingers. They hit most of the time, but they still keep shooting themselves in the foot if you get too much of them.

>>163104117
His first question was wider than that, though:
>But why would we want to trade with others?
If everyone has the same resources overall (which will most likely occur, especially with larger factions/empires) then everyone has the same shit they won't want.

Trading will quite likely end up as just a way of making peace treaties 'formal' between factions if there's no real need for it on large scales

>>163103992
>>>Are there physics that cause interactions between objects and/or the landscape?
>>Can some objects carry out more complex functions when placed together in one or more ways?
>>Does it have too small a playerbase to sustain its' own general to bump limit?
>>If yes to all, you're in, start CLANGposting

That makes Dark Messiah of Might and Magic /egg/ too though.
>can kick enemies/objects around
>one of the spells creates a patch of ice for enemies to slip on
>can cook apple pie and smith a sword by grabbing the ingredients and putting them on the in-world item, example: flour in basket->dough, add apples to the dough, add wine to the dough+apples, put the unbaked apple pie over a grill so they get cooked into apple pie
>not seeing many threads

>>163104426
I might be laughed for being a psychinan (and i am, everything that is not strictly within Newton's or Volta's realm, ie, stuff moving at relatively slow speed and electric/electronic circuits is pretty much black magic with a dose of vodoo and unicorn farts) but don't quantum computers operate by "interference", meaning that the incorrect solutions interfere with each other destructively leaving only the (most) correct result as the "winner"?

Can't post the image because is too tall so...
http://www.smbc-comics.com/comic/the-talk-4
Now you can laugh at me.

>>163104495
I accidentally to the wrong post.
>>163104117 was addressed to >>163099736

Regardless, what would a trade treaty entail, and why would it help formalize a peacy treaty?

>"Space engineers moves into beta after 3 years"
Is the new MP netcode actually decent?

>>163096796
>. It "isn't /egg/," like you would say
No, REM is EXTREMELY /egg/. The vertex-based building system is something that has been clamored for for years. Saying it's not is like claiming we don't go into an autistic rage whenever we remember gmod or spore.

>>163108627
Here we go, the REM shill.

>>163108685
Say to my face that /svgg/ didn't constantly complain about having to use blocks, I dare you.

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>>163095414
I don't know or care what you people have been arguing about but I like seeing mentions to Space Engine

Why are we not discussing the new Worst Korean biped mech?

RIB in biese ded eggs

thread going so ded no one will notice I'm a virgin

>>163105349
That was an example, I wasn't saying that was what should definitely outline this entire general's fate
Shit, I made that up on the spot. Just add the fact that you have to create the objects/mechanisms yourself and Dark Messiah of Kicking Cunts is out already

>>163106184
>Trade treaty
My guess is that it won't even be common enough to be thought of like that. It'll just be an extra, while military-like pacts will be frequent (and, let's be honest, needed far more frequently with the sorts of people who play vidya).

>>163112527
I'm interested, post it m8

>>163115904
I haven't totally looked into it, but I swa a thread on /m/ earlier that I didn't read all the way. It looks like another instance of some eccentric tinkerer building a robot, but this one is actually bipedal. The gist I got from the thread is that it walks, but they still keep it tethered, and the arms have an amazing range of motion, but they didn't see both being used at the same time.

>>163116098
By both I mean moving the arms and walking.

>>163116098
>>163116216
http://imgur.com/gallery/SPl1R

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Anyone playing Robocrat?

I just started playing a day ago after getting the Yogcast key for an extra 3 days of premium.

Game seems like there isn't much content. Designs are really hampered by lack of parts.

>>163116371
wow such agility, much speed

>>163115904
>Just add the fact that you have to create the objects/mechanisms yourself
Where does this stop though?
Does this make spengies no more /egg/ because you don't build the smeltery piece by piece assembling the heating coils with the precise ratio of materials and the correct shape? Does this makes Algodoo no more /egg/ because you didn't make it from scratch by manually changing the state of bits on your HDD (since Assembly would already be "created by someone else")?

>>163116589
robocucks get OUT

>>163116738
>first time it's ever been done
Okay buddy

>>163116746
>Where does this stop though?
Where /egg/ decides it does.

>>163116589
General consensus is that we stopped playing robocuck at least two years ago

>>163116947
>implying japs aren't withholding their technology for mechas

Well, I'm making a steam group for us for Empyrion.

Link here: http://steamcommunity.com/groups/eggpryion

>>163117270
Kuratas doesn't walk and the 1/1 Gundam won't be ready until the Olympics.

>>163116371
http://desuarchive.org/m/thread/15027041/#q15027041
Found the bot before the thread, but it has the links in it so yeah.
Looks pretty good so far, I'd certainly like some strength tests for those arms, that'd really make me hyped for it

>>163116589
They recently changed physics so it's not as shit to play, but like Tribes: Ascend, this is after they lost the previous playerbase who loved the original style and will likely never return.
I should know, I was one of them.

>>163116746
The key is mechanisms, not just making objects into other objects. That's one of the reasons Minecraft doesn't quite fit in unless you mod it (besides having a general already).
The sword you make in DMoM&M doesn't act as a crane arm or something, it just becomes a sword.
If you put a block on a hinge on a cog in Besiege, it becomes a thing that turns and pokes other things that can potentially be weaponised and/or thrown at the enemy.
If you put an infinite-friction circle against another in Algodoo, they become gears. If you then put a whole bunch of them together in a certain formation, they become a calculator.

The game has to be made with engineering, most preferably mechanical but possibly chemical or computational, in mind. That's the (admittedly vague) bottom line.

>>163117356
>http://steamcommunity.com/groups/eggpryion
I'll join once i start doing weird stuff in World of tonks

>>163117505
>The game has to be made with engineering, most preferably mechanical but possibly chemical or computational, in mind. That's the (admittedly vague) bottom line.

Doesn't that stop some /svgg/ games from being /egg/ though? Or is the bottom line "some block, some thrusters, one or more power blocks, weapons if necessary"?
And also MC does fit in a way even in vanilla since there are pistons, hoppers, redstone, comparators and other stuff.
It is perfectly possible to use redstone, hoppers, redstone torches and comparators to make a clock, and use that clock to automatically move a series of pistons to break sugarcane causing it to fall in a stream of water right on top of another hopper that will proceed to transfer it into a chest, mods simply expand upon it.
In fact the only thing that could differentiate it from other /egg/ games is the fact it has a thread already.

>>163116750
>>163117223
Okay I just tried it. As stated not much to do content wise.

>>163117505
>will likely never return
Maybe, I just wanted a quick game to play. It is fun blowing up robots. Now if I can get some more railguns.

>>163118169
/svgg/ games have kind of always been allowed in /egg/ just as a kind of grandfather clause.

>>163118169
/svgg/ is automatically /egg/ because of a grandfather clause.
What is /egg/ is entirely up to /egg/, that is the end all, be all.

>>163118169
Yeah, /svgg/ becoming /egg/ has had a strange effect on what's allowed.
Officially we're /egg/, but we allow /svgg/ games that used to be posted and new ones that show up because there's nowhere else for them to go and we post both groups here anyway.

In the end, I guess it is just what gets posted the most that seems relevant and doesn't involve mexican scam artists.

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>>163118798
>and doesn't involve mexican scam artists.
Goddamn, why did it have to go to shit

>>163084160
>>163101505
What's a good site?

>>163119101
Steam. You can upload the blueprint from an ingame thing. At main menu it should be in the right side of the screen. "mod manager" or some shit.

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>>163118271
>Okay I just tried it. As stated not much to do content wise.
There was more to do when there were less parts. This ship was actually slick awesome back when everything was tiered. When the game was trying to get the most power into the lowest block cost it was amazingly fun.

At the cost of this thing there was no way anyone else had any kind of flight, and even though it was VERY hard to fly, it rained hot death down on a tier where no one was expecting anything to be in the air.

>>163118169
No, /svgg/ is /egg/ by default due to inheritance. MC is not /egg/ due to the same thing that keeps KSP from being /egg/; outright hostility on our part. The day I have to share a thread with the minecraft community is the day I burn /egg/ to the ground to keep it from them.

>>163119901
Considering that with microsoft making a C++ version of it and, possibly, fucking over the mod community (as releasing a API would pretty much open all kind of stuff for people to work on the code or some shit like that long story short walled garden and only microsoft approved mods or something along those lines) it could work on our favor.
>microsoft makes it's walled garden MC with nomods
>pirated versions of Java MC with mods remain
>minekiddies flock to the nomods version because "muh not being a filthy pirate, you don't need mods anyway" or other retarded shit
>/egg/ is left with a moddable, fag-free version of it, in which to build autismo Gregtech/Mekanism/Thaumcraft/etcetera contraptions to it's hearth's content

Though that's just as likely as to have all "that" shitposters and the fag part of the it's dev team simultaneously getting advanced-stage AIDS, terminal and heavily metastasized brain cancer and advanced stage rabies all at once.

>>163120518
You left out advanced syphilis.

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>>163123186
What the flying fuck is going on there?

>>163124739
Somebody went through the trouble of scavenging a bolt from the suspension and replacing it with a lock pin to use as a lug nut instead of just driving it with four lug nuts to the store to get another lug nut.

who else just got their asgardia application?

fuck you cunts im off to space

>>163125768
>ensure the peaceful use of space
Welp lost me there pal.

>>163127273
This, soon as I get into space I'm gonna start conspiring to create Zeon. Just use subtle /egg/ memes around random spacers to find me.

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Hating on a voxel game just for using voxels and therefore being too kiddy or whatever makes no sense. Look at ftd for example the learning curve deters most veterans of the genre it's that autistic. You want gun? you want engine? fuck you, here tutorial.

Do you have thoughts like "should I make this interior wall out of wood instead of metal so it'll be slightly less lethal if it becomes fragments?" then ftd could be for you.

>>163128491
If it didn't get "unified" into oblivion for the "waah too hard" crowd

>>163128491
I'm just ecstatic that REM is combining that system with CODEs and a vertex building system to give us what is essentially standalone ACF. If we are able to use plates as structural members and weld them at intersections in addition to plate-cum-spaceframe construction it'll be god-tier.

>>163128491
i dont get why people say that ftd is complicated its not
>muh no tootoriul

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>>163128784
What precisely is the unification butthurt all about? metal/glass/wood/ becoming one resource? I would have liked to play with multiple resources in maybe adventure mode or optional in campaign.

>>163129495
Rem is more advanced in some ways but more simplistic in others. I'd care more if you built your own guns/engines/systems like in ftd and if it was just more like ftd in general because I'm not feeling rem atm.

The only thing I like from rem is the hull construction. Ftd with rem hull physics/construction would be great.

>>163130215
But all the existing weapons are hardcoded placeholders. It's literally supposed to be a FtD/CODE hybrid module system right down to barrel diameter AND thickness once complete.

>>163130215
I need source. Battle angel Anita?

>>163130662
It's from a side story or a spinoff or a prequel of it IIRC, an anon posted it before and someone asked for sauce.

>>163130558
Manipulating a few sliders to customize your weapon isn't the same thing anyone can do that. in ftd what limits how much firepower you can fit into how small a weapon is determined by the players building skill. The voxel building has some strengths in that area imo.

>>163131115
>in ftd what limits how much firepower you can fit into how small a weapon is determined by the players building skill.
I don't believe such a thing exists. It's a mathematical formula based around optimizing what you can cram into an area defined by its limited space, whether you're moving sliders or stacking blocks. Skill is not entirely involved, only in places where adjacency rules enforce artificial difficulty for little more reason than 'Lego doesn't make a piece like that'. In REM you'll at least have to take space, the weight of the components and materials used, the stresses they place on the frame of the contraption when operated and what you're actually trying to do with it. Ground vehicles will have weight distribution and stoutness of running gear to contend with. Aircraft will have to deal with shaving off any ounce of weight they can. It'll be quite different than FtD but no less complex.

'Building skill' is a term I really dislike in this context because to me, that term refers to your ability to actually put bits together. In games, that's not a factor at all. You can't have a shitty weld in any of these games.

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Quick poll: Should these lines that indicate the position of the cursor in the builder be toggleable, and if so, should it default to on or off?

>>163131684
They're really useful, but annoying.
Toggling would help, but there might be a better solution.
I dunno.

>>163131684
Hotkey toggle, default on.

>>163131832
>>163131816
Thank you. This solution is simply the easiest in the meantime. If it becomes a problem, we can change it later on but we're honestly more concerned with the UI rework as a whole and getting some borked stuff back in action.

Trello here, if anyone is inclined.
https://trello.com/b/ngOboJgz/the-rem-project

>>163131597
you're deflecting from weapon building, or lack of back to frames which I already admit are attractive for hull building and you apparently don't understand that 'lego doesn't make a piece like that' is the whole point.

Moving sliders is boring and unsatisfying. Building weapons from scratch, rebuilding them to fire faster for longer, rebuilding the again with a layout that resists damage better and rebuilding the whole thing more compact is what's satisfying.

>>163132851
>and you apparently don't understand that 'lego doesn't make a piece like that' is the whole point.
I don't like it. It's stopping me by preventing me from fabricating a piece that would solve that problem entirely. I don't know what exact system REManon and co. are working on as far as the exact subsystems and components of weapons, running gear, electronics and engines. But I am positive it won't be pure sliderfuckery (CODE) and I'm tired of blocks (FtD).

>>163132851
You're forgetting REM is intended to be multiplayer. Custom weapons, especially from scratch would be turbo hell to balance, and would always drift into a given direction of power. Like crams. God forbid you have to focus on the fighting itself rather than sending some retarded ai to fail for you.

>>163133152
>too much engineering is bad we're trying to play a game here
>on /egg/

>>163133065
If lego quit doing what they're doing and just sold 3d printed models of the finished products they'd go out of business. You're going after the lego market with 3d models as far as weapon building is concerned when you say this is a ftd hybrid.

>>163132851
The problem is that you can either:
A: use a block based system where different blocks affect the gun in different ways even though by all logic they shouldn't do shit (see FTD, why do i need to use a block to increase the size of the gun? Can't i just use a thicker barrel?)
B: having a series of sliders and materials allowing for fine tuning but make the whole thing "sterile" and "monolithic" (see CH
hODE)
C: a combination of the two, though it may means having "subsize" blocks in order to not be restrained by the 1x1x1 minimum size (ie: the gun system uses also blocks of .5x.5x.5 size or even lower)

>>163133065
Maybe a hybrid method could be interesting, some parts are very "blocks" and they can be individually slider-ed for fine tuning (and maximum autism)

>>163133427
>why do i need to use a block to increase the size of the gun? Can't i just use a thicker barrel?)

A bigger barrel requires everything else to be built heavier and stronger, the space consumed by the gauge increaser blocks is arguably a better representation of the engineering required to increase the caliber of a gun.

>>163133798
But if i want to go full /sperg/ wouldn't it be better if i made the gun, had the, dunno, bolt break off and tear a hole trough the turret, then reinforced the bolt and discover that it flying off was the only thing that stopped the barrel from turning into a oversized pipe bomb, then i use a stronger barrel and then i realize the spring mechanism for the magazine isn't strong enough so i replace it with a motorized revolver system and once the gun finally work and feeds properly i can go to work on the twist ratio of the barrel's grooves?

>>163133427
>A: use a block based system where different blocks affect the gun in different ways even though by all logic they shouldn't do shit (see FTD, why do i need to use a block to increase the size of the gun? Can't i just use a thicker barrel?)
This, engine design in FtD literally pisses me off. It's retarded and has no basis in real engines. Engine piping is idiotic and the way it handles turbos is atrocious.
>>163134093
this, rather. I'd rather I had to pick a stronger, heavier weapon mount or reinforce (increase the thickness) of the old flange.

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Zachtronics games are fun.

hey any serverfriends wanna host a ftd serber

>>163133369
No, seriously, have you ever played a game where that kind of thing is possible, and its competitive multiplayer?

Its hell. Exactly one kind of weapon is used, and the only 'engineering' is exploiting it further by small margins. Its not fun, and litterally impossible to balance. Change one thing and you make an entire class of weapons either worthless or the best thing in the game.

>>163134093
To clarify, this is meant to be used in a hybrid system, both block (1x1x1 and smaller) and sliders for fine tuning.
You can get the "physics" of a block based system (the bolt being shot from the back of the turret) while not incurring on the "monolithic-ness" of a purely slider based system (I can't shot off the barrel of a ChODE gun and neither i get the, rather explosive, feedback of a badly built gun since it's all handled by math that immediately tells you "it will work/it will not work")

>>163133065
>I don't know what exact system REManon and co. are working on as far as the exact subsystems and components of weapons, running gear, electronics and engines. But I am positive it won't be pure sliderfuckery (CODE) and I'm tired of blocks (FtD).

Not quite either system, but we're not planning to allow full autism on all the parts down to the nuts, as that would be incredibly easy to break, on our part or the players. The idea is to make the multiplayer competitive to a certain extent, and fun to play. Closest analogue I can give is effectively ACF with a bit more autism. This applies to most of the module systems.

At least you can build your own fucking turret, ring, targeting, motors and all. World of tanks has pissed us off one to many times with LOL AMMORACKS ARE IN THE CUPOLA))))))))) and MACHIEENGUNS WEAKPOINTS)))))

>>163134093
>appeal to ridicule blah blah

>>163134179
>This, engine design in FtD literally pisses me off. It's retarded and has no basis in real engines. Engine piping is idiotic and the way it handles turbos is atrocious.

Both of these posts have the same problem. The blocks don't strictly represent reality they are game mechanics. If you want to increase the caliber of a gun turret, the guage increaser makes the overall gun bigger as well, fine.

As for turbos, I tried piping them up like a real engine, doesn't work. It's misleading to a petrol head but as a game mechanic they work fine.

>>163134930
>>>appeal to ridicule blah blah
I wasn't appealing to ridicule, i seriously want a game where you don't get directly the result of a formula telling you how fast it will shoot and all that jazz, i want to build it, have it blow up in my (virtual) face and say "back to the drawing board" till it works and then go full blown autism on the smallest details that won't make even the NSA supercomputers choke to death to the point even fucking audiophiles are afraid of being annihilated by my mere presence because my autism aura is so much superior than theirs.

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Inventory up and running the way we like it. Does anyone see anything wrong with it? Now is the time to change something.

>>163135960
do not see any problem remanon

>>163135319
well most egg already have that to a lesser degree. in ftd it shows when the turret you built has too much recoil for the boat and capsizes it, upsetting the refinery and the whole thing blows up in your face. There's no more room for recoil absorbers add ballast or widen the hull? move the gun? rebuild the gun with less recoil but it fits in the same space?

>>163044947
>kspg is dead
Why don't you guys add ksp to your list now that ksp is a dead game?

>>163137130
Nope.
KSP can go fuck itself.
Will never be part of /egg/

>>163137130
>>>/trash/

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Just picturing building my first ship in Ftd but using REM frames for the hull.

>HUGE front turret turns sideways to face enemy
>the barrels are so heavy the front of the ship begins to groan,twist and sag to one side
>Gun fires, violently twisting the front of the boat back the other way, breaking several connections between major structural beams and buckling bulkheads.
>the enemy is sunk but the front of your ship is now 20 degrees on the piss, fug.
>attempt to return turret to forward facing position, the hull twists even more! quickly turn it back sideways, you can't sail anymore without the counterweight of the barrels, but you are still afloat, the pumps are coping with the leaks, just..


God fucking damn it remanon space sucks.

>>163137382
have you considered picturing yourself building a better hull to combat suck structural flaws?

>>163138774
Well yeah that would be the fun part. Unfortunately most of the fun of frames will probably be wasted on dueling nolan-era batmobiles in space.

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Someone posted spengos cutaways before I fucking love cutaways.

>>163139160
>theorycrafting this hard
Back to starmade you go.

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>>163140168
>ship is 60% engine by volume

>>163143105
He needs a steam engine, ICEs are for boats not ships.

>>163143160
Go away Nick

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>>163143313
He's right you know.

>>163143105
Gotta have that efficiency duder. Lasers+railguns+shields+flight+LAMS aint free.

>>163143313
Kek

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Is Cargo The Quest for Gravity /egg/?

>>163144738
Maybe?
Looks similar to besiege.

Stop fucking trying to flood /egg/ with random indie games you nigger.

>>163144738
That game was surprisingly good for what it was, even if it was like an abstract shitshow.

>>163144928
It's the good game that Banjo Kazooie Nuts N Bolts was based on, while NNB was garbage. You have a problem, you have limited resource points to build vehicle to solve problem, placement of parts mattered a lot in how it functioned. Game setting was also like some insane Beatles movie fever dream.

>/cbg/ is trying to resurrect itself
ganbatte

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>>163144801

Are you people buying or pirating From the Depths?

>>163146596
Pirate first then buy if you like, that's how it works.

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These are easy to do with the prefab selection tool if you were wondering.

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reminder Machinecraft is the best /egg/ and you'll be gassed for heresy.

>>163148332
>the physics, weapons, building meta and AI will also be garbage
Take some, lose everything.

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Por favor, what shade of yellow is this?

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>>163150025
Chartreuse.

>>163135960
How many diferent parts its going to have?

Perhaps an option to downsize the "squares" in order to fit more in one screen without scrolling would be good.

Anyway, i think its good.

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>>163148248

>>163150176
Thanks

>>163150208
Triple what we currently have, in the next update. Heavy and light versions with stats to match. In the future, dozens, possibly a few hundred.

We can totally do scaling though, good idea. Problem is the text, under a certain size, so we can just disable it when the icons are small enough. Won't really be necessary until the resource system is in, given that there won't be really enough parts per category to fill the screen.

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Why the fuck they refuse to connect?
>mfw too stupid to even finish tutorial

>>163151972
One is the wrong direction. Teeth need to face each other.

>>163152204
Is there any way to bump it? It's tutorial 10 so I cannot do anything with them, not even disassemble

>>163152409
Sit in the chair and press p or see if they are on (press k). Been awhile since I played the tuitorial

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>>163150254
>having the default flag

>>163152591
Nothing works, I assume when they are yellow they are working but for some reason they cannot connect

>>163152751
Yellow is in proximity. Green is connected. Could be one side lacks power. Or just restart. Might be a bug,

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>>163152819
Nah they are both yellow and man I'm restarting this tutorial for over ten times already(and I'm starting to believe this is what keen intended to teach me in this tutorial - never use a fucking merge block)

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>>163152819
>one side lacks power
Merge blocks don't require power.

>>163152949
Merge blocks are the most reliable way of non-permanently joining two grids.
However, they have a history of being rather finicky when it comes to joining together.

>>163152949
>I'm restarting this tutorial for over ten times already
You need to use them in multiplayer to keep your spawn ship. I don't know what you are doing wrong then. I uninstalled mine. What do the instructions say to do?

>>163153131
>Merge blocks don't require power.
Okay, then control. They do require a control panel or something.

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>>163153131
Eh.
>>163153241
It just tells me to drive that platform forward and press button when they merge which should open doors to the next tutorial area. I dunno what I'm doing wrong. They just refuse to connect.

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>>163153241
No, they do not.
Provided they're on (which they are by default), they'll hook on to each other.

>>163153612
All I can think is maybe you are going to far forward.

>>163153626
Okay, I'm thinking the convert to station/ship thing you need to do in multiplayer.

Every time I try and make a neat looking ship in spengies it always gets ruined because of all the god damn tubes and shit I need to cram into it because I'm a lazy fuck and want to access everything from any point on the ship and then the whole thing turns into a god damn cube.

>>163154458
I saw a neat one. Dude made a ship with everything from the inside then put a nice outer shell design.

I usually do layers, but their technique was pretty neat.

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>>163154652
>Dude made a ship with everything from the inside then put a nice outer shell design.

Doesn't everyone do this? I put in the shit I need then shrink wrap a hull onto it

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>>163154458
start by picking a bunch of simple spaceship shapes, then build a shell and fill it in, adding additional bits as needed. I find that interiors end up looking more "genuine" since they are built for the ship, not the other way around.

>>163155046
>>163154652
I've tried doing that, I guess of all the parts I need to put into a ship the refineries are the most obnoxious because of how huge they are and because I want each deck/area to be airtight.

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>>163155290
Try building a messy sprawl, then building the spaceship hull around it and enclosing it

>>163155290

Spengies should just remove having "air tight" ships/bases and just add "oxygen dispensors" that just create a round sphere of oxygen where ever they are placed, so you can juts stick them around your ship and have them linked to your main oxygen supply.

Having the game check that everythings air tight constantly is probably a massive resource drain.

>>163154993
No, I build in layers, starting from the bottom of the ship up. Lay it down, bring in the weld ship, repeat.

>>163155564
Being air tight is critical to having a space game. It can be disabled if the server doesn't want it.

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>>163155294

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>>163150176
>>163150025
Yellow?

>>163155673

But when you game runs as shittily as Spengies does, and the devs show no signs of ever improving it, its probably time ot start taking some shortcuts.

Empyreon saves a fuckload on computing power by not having the server check if everything on planets and in space is constantly air tight or not.

>>163155938
SEARCHING IN PAIN
BLOO?

>>163155993
me hurt

>>163155463
>armor on the top
>cargo on the bottom-front
>where all the fucking re entry heat is
Does this shit enter the atmosphere upside down? This has never failed to trigger me.

>>163155673
Oxygen is a completely redundant function in spergies.
All it does is add another ore you must scramble to find in the opening stages of your game.
Pressurizing your hull serves no purpose, given that energy depletes faster and is recharged simultaneously.

>>163156304
shields

>>163156542
)))))))
If memory serves, those deflector shields go down if someone as much as sneezes at them. I take it re entering an atmosphere with damage is suicide?

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>>163156542
Nothing triggers me harder than using shields as excuse for poor ship design.

>>163156314
You are in space though. It is supposed to be a little realistic.

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>>163156625
>I take it re entering an atmosphere with damage is suicide?

Not if Revenge of the Sith is still cannon.

>>163156674
You probably wouldn't like starmade then.

>>163156887
Is Starmade better than Space Engineers? I'm sick of the later so bad.

>>163157000
Its certainly a better designed """"Game"""", but its content is so sparse you're better off not bothering. There's a new update that added NPC factions to fuck with if you're so inclined.

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>>163156703

>spengies

>realistic

>>163156703
If only you were in space, preferably without oxygen.

>>163157217
That's mean, anon.

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I like this big, open shape. Some lighting and a paintjob, and we could have some real good stuff.

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>>163159538
>tfw your changelog is so big it overlaps other shit

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>>163117505
>The key is mechanisms, not just making objects into other objects. That's one of the reasons Minecraft doesn't quite fit in unless you mod it.
vanilla minecraft has had far more engineering for several years than current spengies. It simply has it's own general+terrible community although i'd appreciate if minecraft engineering was allowed here
pic related, various things i built over a period of several days on a server focused on CPU design. (although most of those aren't cpu parts)

>>163160517
If some dude made some autistic (And boy I mean autistic) stuff like algodoo anon but in minecraft, explained it here, put some effort I'd be ok about it here, but general MC posting, "hey guys look at this mod, it has grinders!" and other shit should be in /mcg/. That's my 2 cents tho

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>>163160658
Not him, nor algodoo anon, but i used to make automated secrit doors years ago, but thats all.
Was the only fun i could find.
The rest was no /egg/ at all, just make a house and enjoy the rainy days.

>>163160815
heh, I used to do that too.

>>163105349
>>can cook apple pie and smith a sword by grabbing the ingredients and putting them on the in-world item, example: flour in basket->dough, add apples to the dough, add wine to the dough+apples, put the unbaked apple pie over a grill so they get cooked into apple pie
these are still premade functionality, whereas building a logical circuit that performs some kind of function is emergent.

>>163156887
>responding to 14 hour old shitposts

>>163160815
Making a factory for high yield solar arrays for Tekkit was training for Factorio

>>163131597
>Skill is not entirely involved, only in places where adjacency rules enforce artificial difficulty for little more reason than 'Lego doesn't make a piece like that'.
That's ridiculous skill is most certainly a thing, imagining good, compact compositions is actually hard. Infinifactory is pretty much exactly that and you can't tell me that infinifactory doesn't take skill.
>>163133065
limitations are necessary so there's an interesting challenge. Cubes are easy to manipulate(build) and view, and (relatively) easy to handle programmatically too, which is why they're so popular. IRL you obviously have very good control over how you're assembling things, you can't do that in a game. In FtD you already spend 90% of your time designing stuff and 10% actually using it, it would be even worse for a more expressive game. Part of that is very much controls which are simply hard to get right. Several creative building tools have been developed for minecraft, such as worldedit and voxelsniper, here's a video of voxelsniper used to create landscapes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALZ7dB0gwPU&t=2m18s

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>>163160658
>If some dude made some autistic (And boy I mean autistic) stuff like algodoo anon

I actually laughed

What is the best start for nub in spongies? I want planets, moons, asteroids to visit in one run too

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>>163162138
>start a custom world
>set map as easy start alien on creative with damage off
>disable dogs but keep spoders
>spawn in a atmospheric lander
>crtl+x to cut it
>go to spectator with f8 and scroll to increase speed
>go to the earth planet
>go to the pole or a place when the pirate bases are far away
>rise up untill gravity is 0.5 and its enough high
>press.. i cant remeber if its crtl+spacebar or alt+spacebar to teleport your engineer to that place and then f6 to go back to the normal view
>with jetpack on so you dont fall or catch speed, paste the lander and quickly get inside
>save the game and exit
>go to edit savegames on load and enable damage and set it on survival
>keep spectator enabled just in case
>load the game

And then you have a survival map, with all the buildings from the easy starts, but with the begining like non easy start with the atmospheric lander, and since you will land away from the pirate bases, they wont bother you untill you go to them or you are in its antenna range.
then you will need to build your shit to go to space and do moon mining, and then will be the asteroid parts, and lastly the ayy landing, and see if there is anything left.

You can do it with mars instead of the alien planet to make it shorter.

>>163135319
you can't have extreme realism and building freedom, see >>163161972

>>163162720
Thanks man, why disable dogs though? Are they that annoying?

>>163160815
I used to build toilets that when you pressed the flush button, a piston retracted the toilet and you falled down through a hole. It was a neat way of hiding muh sekrit base

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>>163146509
what are the long connectors in the tower and what's attached to them?
i love these cutaways, they're always nice to see
are the turrets railguns?

>>163163526
>what are the long connectors in the tower and what's attached to them?
AI connectors, attached to rangefinders. Using connectors instead of wireless transmitters means that the vehicle is indetectable by wireless snoopers

>>163140168
why does no one ever armor the turret below the deck in this game? It was made clear a long time ago that the mechanics for the explosions ignore deck armor. If I'm understanding what I see here correctly (that the armor alongside the guns appears to be on the hull rather than turret), you're risking the turret detonating.

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>>163163645
You're 100% right about the original intent of the ai connector tower, on my first bote I tried to use no wireless signals.

On that particular bote, the central ai core/column was more of a habit or holdover from older designs and no longer serves its stealthy purpose.

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>>163163105
yes, the AI and the pathfinding is shit, and since you wont start with your own made equipment, better not having them eating everything, also hitboxes are fucked up, like, despite being 50 feet in the air, the fucking dog can bite you...

Once you play some creative and create your own ships, or copypaste something from the workshop to replace the lander with something better, and with turrets, you can turn them on again and see if works, but better not have them, at least they are not muslim cyberhounds now, those were the good old days.

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>>163164187

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>finally get MOD world exporter to work in machinecraft for the sample map

ADVANCED WORLDS HERE WE COME

no idea what the meshes are about gonna play around with the sample map and see what it all does

>>163144801
>tfw my ships are 60% air instead of 60% engine

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>>163164616
oh shit the flip gravity switches and lifts and everything work

>>163164616
How?
Where do you upload?

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Ok, these modded spotlights can get pretty crazy.

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>change range and intensity of lights
>power consumption doesn't change
>"""""engineering games"""""

>>163163097
You can approximate by using either smaller blocks that are 1/8 or 1/16 (or 1/64 if you are masochistic enough) of a normal block for the minutiae or by adding sliders to some blocks for fine tuning, for example a "magazine block" could have parameters like "spring strength" that influence it's ability to feed the gun, a barrel block could have options like thickness, bore, twist rate and material allowing for more complex designs.
A ICE engine could have sliders for changing the fuel/air mixture or even the type of fuel.

Imagine CODE, but with a little less sliders and every module is built like a multiblock structure like those found in MC or FTD

If you want perfection then you would need a computer that has enough bits to perfectly simulate a area of finite size (and if you want to go to the atomic/subatomic level, it's a fuckload of bits), a compromise needs to exist.

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>>163155938
>

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>>163164795
Need Unity 5.43 no other version will work

download ワールド作成キット(ver.0.220以降用)をダウンロード ※UnityEditor用アセット from the devs website http://hrpbk2 wixsite com/machinecraft/download

double click the unity package, create new project. import everything it asks for.

in the project explorer go scenes, open one of them, I used switchworld.

click MCNUtils on the menu in Unity, then Build AssetBundle. Notice where it says it saved it, it won't have.

where it says "Userdata" is, make a copy of machinecraft there is now that Userdata path does exist. Now do the Build AssetBundle again.

open that copy of machinecraft, go to CONSTRUCT. make some savefile name, change mode to MOD, type in the world name at the top (if you used switchworld, it'd be switchworld - beleive it'll always be the scene name, probably...) now click save, then load.

You should now be in a mod scene you exported yourself.

as far as getting it online goes, no idea - I haven't got there yet. I suspect you just stick the world file on google drive then set the URL to it in the box below.

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>>163163741
> I'm understanding what I see here correctly (that the armor alongside the guns appears to be on the hull rather than turret), you're risking the turret detonating.

It's not as bad as you think, thanks to the thin turret and the shape of the hull there's enough space for a walkway, 2 layers of metal and one of batteries+laser between the outside and the turret, which has been designed with the ammo in the center where it's a little safer too. If it gets too bad I can replace one layer of metal with heavy armor but it's been ok so far.

Are you saying to build the armor on the turret itself instead of the ship?

>>163165314
no, both.

the explosion mechanics in the game ignore hull armor when dealing with anything on a spinner, and vice versa. Nick himself posted that this is the case. If you've ever wondered why your turret suddenly breaks in half when the hull above is still fine, that's exactly why it happens.

So ideally you actually need to armor both the turret spinner and the inside of the hull to avoid any explosion in the turret from destroying you from the inside out.

In practice I'm not sure what works better, but it is a dumb mechanics problem.

>>163165308
>as far as getting it online goes, no idea
There is my problem, it just wont load or loading empty scene.

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>>163165448
I'll definitely try that when I revise pic related to make it less explosive.. With the ship you quoted the problem is not that bad since the gauge snake and chargers protect the ammo a bit and being a railgun the rate of fire is low so there's not much ammo in it to blow up anyway.

>>163165227
>You can approximate by using either smaller blocks that are 1/8 or 1/16 (or 1/64 if you are masochistic enough) of a normal block for the minutiae
There are several issues with this, on one hand it's hard to do that technically(with acceptable performance), on the other hand it takes ages to build anything, as the regular controls of right click place and left click remove become inadequate for editing such huge amounts of voxels. The video is a good example of one way to control such massive amounts of blocks.
Minecraft actually has "blocks that are made up of smaller blocks" that you can use to make very detailed stuff, notable implementations include LittleBlocks and LittleTiles. There is another approach known as Microblocks, which are an interesting compromise.
here's a video of a small build made with littletiles, which uses 1/16 blocks that took 2 weeks: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iIAaLtCeaVM

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>>163165547
>>163165308
>>163164720
>>163164616
SUCCESS

Hosting now : TESTMOD on the EU server

come in and confirm it's working yourselves

I uploaded the switchworld "file" from the worlds folder, then went share link. that isn't a direct link but a site and that causes problems. Instead, copy the code after "id=" and use this instead:

https://drive.google.com/uc?export=view&id=XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

with XXXXX replaced with your ID code