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>Character Planner
https://www.mugenmonkey.com/

>DARK SOULS 3
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1u8Mak1goSv4g73g16XsWV4sJelDQUatWkP2kcO6GVAA/pub

>DARK SOULS 2
http://pastebin.com/CAx8Yc8v

>DARK SOULS
http://pastebin.com/eNY3su63

>DEMON'S SOULS
http://pastebin.com/RjpF5s7a

>BLOODBORNE
http://pastebin.com/WdLBWD8n

>KING'S FIELD
http://pastebin.com/G8zw0sc3

>Community & Fanart
http://pastebin.com/vVWz9pJm
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Cute.
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Repost from old thread:

DS2's true boss order:
>pick bonfire ascetic as your starting gift

Part 1: +3
Forest of Fallen Giants:
>Talk to merchant, buy branch and lenigrast's key, get silver serpent's ring, get titanite slab.
>ALWAYS keep silver serpent ring on.
>kill cale, get the mansion key and his helm
>drop down, get fire quartz ring +1
Majula
>open leningrast's door, buy a good weapon and +3 it
>Kill maughlin for tseldora's set if you're a pussy-ass bitch who needs more soul farming to reach shrine of winter

Part 2: +6
Heide's Tower
>kill dragon rider
>warp back to majula, activate mechanism
Huntsman's copse
>Kill basilisk twice, get 6 large shards, warp back to Majula and +6 your weapon
>Skeleton Lords
Harvest Valley
>Stone Trader, buy Bonfire Ascetic

Part 3: +10
Forest of Fallen Giants
>Last Giant
Use Ascetic on Cardinal Tower Bonfire, grab 3 titanite chunks
Warp back to majula, +8 your weapon
>Last Giant +1
>Pursuer +1
Use Ascetic on Cardinal Tower Bonfire, grab 3 titanite chunks
Warp back to majula, +10 your weapon
>Last Giant +2
>Pursuer +2

Part 4: Old Iron King
Earthen Peak
>Mytha the Baneful King
Iron Keep
use fire quartz ring + get wet + ALL YOUR LIFEGEMS to get the 3 bonfire ascetics
buy Jester's Gloves , equip also
>Smelter Demon
>Pursuer
>Old Iron King
Bonfire Ascetic
>Old Iron King +1

Part 5: Lost Sinner
Lost Bastille (via Eagle)
grab bonfire ascetic, Use ruin sentinel skip with lockstone
Sinner's Rise
>Lost Sinner
burn Bonfire Ascetic
>Lost Sinner +1 with red phantoms
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I'm not Oceiros but i love ocelotte and i recognize his child with the power of dragons, and whoever doesn't is an ignorant slave.
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>yfw DLC2 has a boss rush arena
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>Hexes in Das2 that require more than 30int/30fai
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>>163011828

Part 6: 1m Souls
At this point you should be getting close to 1m souls. If you aren't, farm these options, from highest reward to lowest:
>Use your last ascetic on Old Iron King
>Ruin Sentinels
>Belfry Gargolyes
>Old Dragon Slayer
>Executioner's chariot
(All of this is guaranteed 900,000, mobs and soul items should account for the rest, if you're still not there, farm the alonne knights in iron keep. Tseldora's set nets you another 136,000 from bosses if you want to look like a fool).

Part 7: Giants, Darkdiver Grandahl,
Shaded Woods, unlock the gate. Vengarl, then Darkdiver Grandahl
Drop down the Majula Pit, use the gutter skip, kill the giants and grab the forgotten key. Roll down, meet Darkdiver a second time.
Open the Shrine of Winter

Part 8: Drangleic Castle
>Laugh at the Emerald Herald's dialogue
>King's Gate Sentinels
Meet Grandahl a third time, buy out his Bonfire Ascetics, Burn one at King's Gate (9 left)
>Twin Pursuers
Burn ascetic at forgotten chamber (8 left)
>Dragonriders +1
Burn Ascetic at Central Castle Drangleic (7 left)
>Looking Glass Knight +1
Shrine of Amana
Burn Ascetic at Rhoy's resting place (6 left)
>Demon of Song +1
Undead Crypt
Burn ascetic at Undead Ditch (5 left)
>Veldstadt +1
Grab King's Ring

Part 9: Ashen Mist Heart
Open King's Gate at Shaded Woods
Aldia's Keep, burn ascetic at Ritual Site
Royal Sorceror: Buy out his bonfire ascetics (15 left)
>Guardian Dragon +1
Dragon Aerie
Use Bonfire ascetic to farm dragon bone and twinkling for weapons
Dragon Shrine
Get ashen mist heart
>Ancient Dragon (+1 if you're cheeky)

Part 10: Giant Souls and Vendrick
Forest of Fallen Giants, King's Ring
Use Bonfire Ascetic on The Place Unbeknownst
>Giant Lord +1
Other giant memories, acquire giant souls and infinite farm if the game is getting too hard for you
>Vendrick +1 with 5 giant souls (from burning at undead ditch)
Drangleic Castle
>Throne Watcher and Defender +1
>Nashandra +1 (from burning at king's gate)
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>>163011870
>not knowing how to spice
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>>163012079
yeah i know how to spice
but like if you can spice them down with a negligible penalty then why bother putting the stat requirements so high
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>>163012079
>grinding spices
that's even worse
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>>163012179
To force you to use your spices on the high level spells, instead of min-maxing with 10 Int/Fth buffs.

I mean, why else include spices in the first place?
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What happens if I invade ppl as a mound maker. Will that fail Sirris quest line as well?
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>>163011828

Might give this one a try too. Haven't played DaS2 in a very long time.
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>>163012331
So basically, Dark Greatsword requiring 55int, when the softcap for hexes is 30int/30fai, is to justify the spices being there, when they could just as easily not be there, generating stupid busywork for the player.
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>chuck some fightclub host off a cliff
>he alt+f4s while he's falling
I mean, ok? What does this change? Do you think I actually need those vertebraes?
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>>163012436
nope
just don't give pale tongues to rosaria
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NEED someone to make a gif/webm of nashandra doing her curse ball move only instead it makes (You)s pop out

it's for friend
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>>163012445
I'm not sure if it would be harder or not. On the one hand, you're basically doing NG+ the whole time. On the other hand, you get a shitton of souls early on and you can be +10 SL70 before smelter demon and +10 SL120 before Drangleic castle. Probably depends on how you optimize, really.
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>>163012546
>Do you think I actually need those vertebraes?
Who are you talking to?
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>haven't played DaS2 in 2 years
>was my first souls game
>enjoyed it a lot
>consider it my favorite
>spend 10 hours installing
>replay it yesterday
>quit after last giant
>uninstall

Wow, i really let BB and DeS spoil me. I can't even enjoy DaS2 anymore.
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What is this place supposed to be? Irithyll?
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>>163013620
Anor Londo
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What would be a fun character for 3?
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>>163013620
Yeah, looks like Anor Londo to me. Time is convoluted and worlds are converging at the base of the High Wall, shit ain't gotta make no sense.
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>>163012924
for reddit?
kek no.......
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>>163013370
the person who unironically alt+f4s out of a death in meta levels
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>want to play DeS
>actually don't want to play DeS, because suiciding in the nexus gets tedious
>Want to play DaS
>no fun builds to play
>want to play DaS2
>don't want to deal with the clunky gameplay
>Want to play BB
>Don't want to spend all the time farming heavy Abyssals for a 50/25 Saw cleaver build when I could just go 50/50 saw spear for better damage
>Want to play DaS3
>remember DaS3 has no replay value whatsoever

2 more months until nioh
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>>163013925
2bh that kind of reply is exactly why i want it
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>>163013620
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>>163014105
wow das3's map is so tiny
DaS1 completely dwarfs it
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>>163014312
>DaS1 completely dwarfs it
lol no
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>kill some faggot "duelist" who waits for invaders after pontiff by baiting him through the level and making him fight with the archers on my side
>invade him again
>he teleports to me instantly and kills me with 20000% attackspeed

Why get butthurt about people using game mechanics against you, when you're the one searching for invaders in the first place?
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>TFW luring invaders into the water reserve at irithyll and trolling them with the giant dogs
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>>163014553
Ah right, what a convincing argument.
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>>163013556
I think the only way I could enjoy it at this point is if I dropped souls for however long it would take me to forget how to play it, and then come back and start with das2

Even then I don't know if I could enjoy it
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>>163014312
>DaS1 completely dwarfs it
Do you have some sort of size comparison?

On first glance, this seems very similiar to DaS1 to me.
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So I just got done DS3 and I felt that the areas were generally smaller and bon fire placement was tight; the worst example being the dragon slayer armour and grand archives. I mean, it was still a challenge at points cause fuck the Pontiff Knights and Pontiff Sulyvahn. The game also felt very linear, like a very long and twisting hallway.
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>>163014787
Hidden body + ng+7?
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What's the best way to beat someone who spams nothing but Homing Soul Mass?
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>>163015785
ng+3 only, but its working out well.
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>>163015946
round of applause
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>>163015946
try stabbing in the back
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>>163015946
Don't give them the space to cast it. Just fucking sprint at them until they switch to a weapon. If you have a fast weapon, do some sprint attacks.
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>Bought the Season Pass months ago
>Don't even feel like playing the second DLC anymore and just want From's new game already
How does Souls already feel more overdone than Assassin's Creed at this point lads?
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>>163016454
The games all look the same, AC atleast had different architecture.
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>>163016454
AC's gameplay barely changed but they implemented new things like brotherhood managing and sea battles. The settings were also wonderful.
We had 5 From games now that were the same shit with a different skin and 3 of them had the same story. Or make that 4, DkS is just DeS with different names for things.
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>invade as a purple
>decide to help a host kill aldrich invaders
>host backstabs me while I'm fighting an aldrich dude and I die
>he immediately gets murdered by the aldrich dude

Now I remember why I never help the hosts
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Why is it so damn satisfying to crush scrub hosts and their phantoms?

Why is it so satisfying to hide with obscuring ring and stalk your prey and when they're in the middle of an intense fight with mobs, run in and murder them and watch as the host panics and tries to flee?
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What's the rough chance of a chaos bug dropping a sunlight medal? At max discovery
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>>163014105
can some CE magicians come closer to "not real" locations ?
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>>163017725
It's just some low res low polygon buildings that you can see from the undead settlement, archdragon peak and the cathedral. They're just there for decoration on the horizon.
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>>163017327
What's the point of this webm, you barely did anything.
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>>163018397
None of his webms have a point

>that pathetic owcs damage
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>>163017823
it's just a copy of the undead settlement
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>>163018681
meant for >>163017725
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>>163018659
This one is like the worst of them all. 1 running attack that changed nothing and edgy autistic writeup.
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>tfw Vordt disappeared

Never seen this glitch before
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>>163019686
>summoning for vordt
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>>163019863
I've literally been getting summoned non-stop the last 15 minutes for Vordt.

Nice way to farm for some embers while getting a good amount of souls.
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>it's a red teams up with the host episode
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>>163020303
Rosaria's Fingers need only fetch tongues for their mistress.
Otherwise, we are free, unchained.
Like Yellowfinger, you can choose to believe that all Fingers share camoradarie.
But do not force your romance on the rest of us.
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>>163020782
you don't get a tongue for HELPING HOST though
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I want to play DaS1 with 30 faith / str build and a claymore
is that a shit idea?
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>>163020782

My ass, Heysel is the cuntiest of the fingers, go cuck yourself Leonhard
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>>163020782
>camoradarie
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>>163020906
>>163020303
Here's a fun little fact

The red knows he doesn't get rewarded for killing you.
However, the red also knows he has to kill the host afterwards anyways.

If a red kills you, it means you were being such a gigantic faggot that he'd rather kill you first and take his chances 1v1 with the host, rather than fight him with you.
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>>163020906
>sacrifice some weak ass nigga to gain trust
>backstab host when it hurts the most
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>>163021031
No, STR/FTH is very viable. Are you forgoing DEX for STR though? You'll be missing out on scaling if you do. A hammer would benefit more from pure strength.
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>start playing DaS1 with a friend
>a hour old character, knight set+claymore mid rolls, friend in pyromancer starter equipment
>invaded by some father mask faggot in overpowered equipment with some greathammer near gargoyles
>he STILL almost dies from me and has to chug a humanity to kill my friend with no pyromancies
How can people be this bad? Why do they even bother ganking newbies?
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>>163021706
that's what I get for copying it from fextra
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>>163021930
I don't know, my character is pretty low still. Should i go 30/30 on str/dex too? I don't really like hammers.
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>>163022092
27 str is an effective 40 while 2handing in das1, so 27str/40fth is good point investment. you don't have to use hammers, just any weapon that scales primarily with strength.
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I want to terrorize every block holding parry spammer.

What setup should I use? Tired of having to play endless mind games with these fucking mouth breathers.
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>game tries to connect to the same host 10 times in a row
>times out each time
The fuck is going on?
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>fextralife
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How much poise do you need to beat black flame?
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>>163022576
ten million
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I wish I had started using gundyr's halberd earlier

>hit some faggot host twice
>he's already pussying out and trying to chug
>sprint up to him and use the WA
>he gets hit mid roll, he gets knocked down
>wake up WA
>he gets knocked down again because he just tries to panicroll like he's used to doing
>wake up WA
>he's dead
No chugs allowed
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>>163022092
Just get yourself a Manserpent Greatsword instead of the claymore. Same weapon class, but with pure STR scaling.
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>>163022432
Usually ultra great weapons are the best for that, with something quick hidden in another slot. Attempting to parry an ultra weapon is asking for death.
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Anyone on ps4 up for helping mule a few things over to my new guy?
Pass is dsg, I'm at the first high wall bonfire.
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>>163022728
Please note that Gundy's Funstick has a higher AR at 66 STR than it does at 40/40.
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Is it at all possible to get banned from DaS1?
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Quakestone hammer or great club?

Making a blunt pvp man.
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>>163022432
Pyromancy, especially sacred flame.
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>>163021276
Stop insulting Heysel, she is cute.
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>>163023140
Not really, no.
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>>163023163
Great club is fucking amazing, especially with the roll catch, good luck getting away faggot.
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>want to do low level invasions
>ornsteins, lorians, black knight hosts everywhere
Or havel hornet-parry spamming faggots doing a gank squad with fucking reds
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>>163022891
I'm using it at 40 str and base dex, since I'm running a str faith build.

A decent weapon art will still hit for up to 900 damage, though. Just the last hit alone is usually around 480.
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>it's almost 2017
>DaS3's pvp is still worse than das2
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>>163023340
Twink
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>>163022432
40 int/ 40 faith.

twin dragon greatshield, followers flame, black flame

any short/longsword you like

if they try to parry bait you, shit on them with a double black flame

you can also combo an r1 hit, into a black flame if it staggers, and basically instantly win

this is THE parry spam destroyer
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>>163023693
>greatshields
i'm not a faggot anon
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>>163023615
What's wrong with twinking in buttbuddies 3?
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>>163023826
who cares

the build is literally designed to make parry baiters and spammers want to off themselves
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>>163022432
gotta mix in some R2s, you R1 spammer.
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>>163024158
Oh I win, I just don't like having to play around people pressing parry every time they swing their sword once, or you look at them funny. Even played against a max hp regen parry spamming person earlier.

It got boring quick.
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>ganking faggots
>kill the host 3 times in a row, solo
>try to add him on steam to suggest he let his other buddy host because hosts that die make ganks zero fun
>he blocked me in fucking advance
lol
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>SotFS Early Pursuer fight is the same
>the only way they could think to not make it a joke is to have the arena filled with Hollows

This doesn't make it harder, just more annoying
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>>163022453
choosing between the fextalife and the wikidot feels bad

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMtpzPykwGU&feature=youtu.be&t=342
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>>163024385
>no boobs
This drawing is trash
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>>163024286
It's fun to see them miss tho.
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>>163024476
Does /d/ have an edit thread? I can request it there. Maybe the /aco/ thread would take it?

Although the original pic has him with a massive set of balls
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>>163023980
No, I said twink as the verb. Go twink to beat those. It's laughlably easy.
You can even carry a pockt fun weapon for lone hosts if you want
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What's the deal with the Alva spawn past the Distant Manor bonfire? I want to get the armor set but the NPC refuses to spawn. On some sites people say that he doesn't spawn unless Sulyvahn has been defeated, others say the opposite. Some say that you need to be embered, some say you don't. What's the fucking deal?
On my first character, I remember him spawning after I killed Suly and was about to explore Irithyll dungeon. Now on my second he doesn't want to show up.
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>>163024623
I don't know for /d/, but maybe someone in the /aco/ thread would do it.

Post the full pic in /aco/ please, I beg of thee, even though there is no boobs
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>>163024820
Won't invade if you've killed pontiff or yhorm beforehand
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>get summoned as a blue to some aldrich world
>there's 3 invaders in the world
>every time we kill one, another appears
>repeat until I have 8 ears
WEW
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>>163024820
You need to be embered and that should be it really.
>>163025037
I always do pontiff -> aldritch -> yhorm in my playthroughs and Alva spawns every time.
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Anyone else here fight Gwyn without parrying?
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>>163025074
>get summoned as a blue

Nice bait.
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>>163025272
Funfact

you can be summoned as a blue while your red eye orb is active.

I usually just slap on the darkmoon covenant between invasions. For like every 15 invasions, you get a blue summon. Sometimes it doesn't even time out.
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>>163025187
most pve only players
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>>163025187
I fight him with Solaire
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>>163025180
>>163025037
That's what I don't understand though. I was embered and ran past the Distant Manor bonfire before fighting Suly and he didn't spawn. Tried multiple times with no success, killed Suly a while after that.
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>>163025674
why do you make him kill his dad you monster
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What would be your perfect weapon lads?

for me
>Regular Halberd, but with the Gundyr charge finisher on the charge
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>>163024943
posted
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>>163025728
>dad

Anon, I have news for you. And you're not going to like it.
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>>163025728
vaati pls go
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>>163025732
Blue Flame but it's in DaS3 and doesn't look like a shittty candlestick
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>>163025710
My bad, I was just reading wiki. Honestly don't know what's up, I've never not had him spawn.
Are you sure you're going far enough? He doesn't invade until just before the Irithyll Dungeon bonfire.
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>>163025187
I did. The only bosses in any Souls game that I parried was in Bloodborne because parrying in BB was way easier for me.
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>>163025728
Something tells me you haven't played Dark Souls 3 yet.
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>mfw invading with reinforced club
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>yfw the second DLC is another area that totally isn't the area from the first game, and yet it has signs that an NPC from the first game was fucking murdered by the PC of that game
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>>163025848
lay it down anon
>>163025963
you are correct
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>>163026060
Solaire isn't Gwyn's firstborn, he is a worshipper of Gwyn's firstborn.
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>>163026002
What anime is this thing even from? I've seen her all over the place.

>>163026046
Fuck you Miyazaki
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>>163025710
He invades right before the entrance to dungeon
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>>163026046
This image has to be made for oswald desu.
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>>163025728
>dad
HAHA
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This Interstellar DLC is awesome!
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>>163026060
The Nameless King is Gwyn's firstborn.
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Guys, which Souls game has the best invisible crow traders?

Best both in terms of items they give, and voices.
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>>163026046
>some archives with crystallized corpse of a certain big hat sorcerer
>some dark tomb with a ruined bearded skeleton
That really spoiled my focus
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>>163026357
ded gpoo
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>>163026357
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>>163026357
>>163026472

That's just normal DaS3.
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>>163026552
This makes me think of that one outside section of Drangleic Castle.
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>>163026357
>>163026540
>>163026552

Reminded me of this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ua0zMsDiAyg
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>invade fightclub
>shoot greatarrow at host because I don't feel like doing this farce of "honorable duels" while everyone has 50% more HP than me
>host turns on hacks and chases me down
>everyone in the fightclub leaves
>host turns off hacks and does like he now fights honorably
>seems to have infinite poise still
wow... honorable...
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>>163025782
Thank you
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>tfw You'll never go back in time to save Gwyndolin, even though Time Travel is a fucking constant thing in the games
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I beat DS3 for the first time. I apparently missed a whole optional area, two entire NPCs, and almost every storyline. I got what appears to be this game's Dark Lord Ending. How'd I do?

Soul of Cinder was a pretty awesome boss.
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>>163026382
well that's disappointing, at least the guy looks cool i guess
i really should get a better pc and play the fucking game
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>>163016736
>>163016454
>Armored Core went 11 games in a row without changing the main gameplay

You guys don't get it. From Software doesn't change gameplay for the sake of variety. They might add or remove a few features but the basic gameplay of souls is never going to change as long as they keep making new titles using it
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>>163026060
There's a hidden boss in Dark Souls 3 which is pretty much spelled out as Gwyn's firstborn who was lost to time/banished. It all fits very well.

You might not rule out Solaire as *a* son of Gwyn - a la Hercules or Perseus - because it would still fit thematically. However, that idea is pretty speculative. There's not really anything that suggests that Solaire is a god/human hybrid... just a skilled sun worshipper.
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>>163027174
What area did you even miss? Can't be ash lake if you managed to marry anri's dumb ass
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>>163026994
>exclusively saving pictures of gwyndolin where he looks decisively male, even though his ingame model isn't that way one bit
Congrats, you're gayer than the average faggot
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best way to level a pure sorcery build? 20 into vig/attn and then dump everything into int til 50?
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>>163027174
>missed two NPCs
>Dark Lord

are you sure you didn't get the "End the Fire" ending?
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>tfw there's no mod that will make something resembling the original plan for Dark Souls, with all those cut areas and Priscilla as the Heroine
>a video of all those unique animations Priscilla supposedly had if you make her playable will never be uploaded
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>>163027398
level up INT and STR and use Moonlight Greatsword
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>>163027468
Sounds too "Japanese-y" no thanks
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>>163027280
>>163027405
Probably missed Onionbro and Greirat.

As for areas... Maybe The Untended Graves and/or Arch Dragon peak?
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>>163027280
>marry anri's dumb ass

Never call my waifu dumb again
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>>163027347
Hey man, I take what I can get. There's not anywhere near as much art as there should bethat shows him as the fuccboi he is.
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>>163027468
dat questline for the Chaos blade, dat post-Gwyn fight with Andre...

also shame on you for this lewd pic of Priscilla
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>>163027594
...Dark Souls is already very Japanese-y for a setting based on Europe.
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>>163027673
I just really like perky titties and get mad when people draw gwyndolin without perky titties
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Sup faggots? I'm about to start Dank Souls. What should I expect? Any newfag tips? I platted Bloodborne but that's the only one of these I've played.
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>>163027927
Don't look anything up on your first playthrough, duh.
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>>163027841
>setting based on Europe
cmon, the refugee thing isn't that bad
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>>163020782
>Like Yellowfinger, you can choose to believe that all Fingers share camoradarie.
Yellowfinger is a maggot woman ;_;
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>>163027896
Trust me, if I could draw, that's the only way I'd draw him.

A seizure fucked up my ability to draw when I was like 12.
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>>163021961
>How can people be this bad? Why do they even bother ganking newbies?
You answered your own question
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>>163027689
I don't have much of Priscilla right now, sorry.

>>163027594
>too "japanese-y"
>in a japanese game based on european and medieval fantasy settings
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How am I supposed to kill the faggot tree as a pyromancer?
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>>163028656
I haven't played yet but a pyromancer fighting a tree sounds like a horribly unfair fight in favor of the pyromancer tbqhwy.
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>>163026429
Dark Souls 2 wins again
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>>163028656
with very little effort
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>>163028367
>>163027841
>westaboo makes a game based on European settings
>too much japanese flavor spills over and ruins it
Believe it or not, but if Dark Souls was anymore Japanese in its Japanese/European boiling pot, it'd be pretty tacky.
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>>163026994
I'm glad Gwyndolin is Aldritch food
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>>163028656
>how am I supposed to burn wood with fire?
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>>163028656
Freeaim.
There's a some egg things on the top that you just can't see, point your camera skyward and fire away, chances are you'll hit one.
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>>163027280
Apparently Archdragon Peak.

> if you managed to marry anri's dumb ass
I DIDN'T MEAN TO I'M SO SORRY

>>163027405
>are you sure you didn't get the "End the Fire" ending?
Well I had a bunch of people from Londor show up and bow to me and everything got dark except for the huge darksign in the sky.
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>>163027605
I saw the Siegmeyer rip-off once then never again. I apparently sent Greirat to die in Irithyll.

I never found a pyromancer and I never did anything with this Sirris chick
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>>163028851
>>163029156
>I've never tried to burn green wood
cityfags
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>>163028962
>trading rare finite items for % chance to get good items or shit

No thank you.
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>>163029342
Sirris is fucking hot though.
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>>163029487
I wouldn't know.

Did Yuria want to be mai waifu? She kept seemingly setting up Anri as mai waifu but apparently that just meant human sacrifice.
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>>163029456
If you're a countryfag then the joke is automatically on you.
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>>163025187
First time beating Gwyn I just abused the fuck out of the Claymore's 2h r1

Two hits staggers the fuck out of him, he barely got to move after the first jump attack
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>>163029602
>no niggers
>no crime
>no stress
>good air
>women aren't total whores

Yeah I dunno why you'd feel superior for having to live in a city
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>>163029602
haha yeah my cheap land, easy privacy, and scenic healthy environs sure did cuck me
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>>163029752
>country girls aren't whores

Which fucking country are you from?
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>>163029752
>>women aren't total whores
Not true. They're total whores. Just, only for one guy at a time. Shit is so cash.
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>>163029586
You HAVE to meet Sirris.

She's the one that cold shoulders you on the steps at Firelink.
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>>163029456
Realism aside, Curse Rotted Greatwood is weak to fire.
The game even gives you a ton of fire stuff before.
>charcoal pine resin and bundles at the start of the settlement
>a pyromancy teacher
>fire clutch ring
>ashes that let you buy more charcoal pine resin and bundles

>hurr durr how was i supposed to know the tree is weak to fire
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>>163029896
Oh. I think I talked to her once then he told me to fuck off forever for joining that one covenant
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>>163029752
Cities are great if you're not shit at doing things. You get paid more, get to do more, get to have more fun. It's only if you're poor and were born into the city and don't have a support network that cities suck.
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>>163029456
Pathetic save.
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What's a good off-hand weapon for a 40/40 int/faith pyro build? Just any dark/chaos infused GS?
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>>163029037
I still like it a lot.
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>>163030159
Since you bring it up, I didn't study shit and make ~96k a year.

How does living in the city compare here?
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>>163029893
>only for one guy at a time
Ideally, they'd be a slut for a guy they've developed a relationship with, not for every guy they drunkenly meet up with at bars to have sex in the bathroom with.
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>>163030071
rip
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>>163030189
dark longsword
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>>163030254
>Since you bring it up, I didn't study shit and make ~96k a year.
You probably know how to do way more than a Phd. in Philosophy then.
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>>163029893
>>163030352

>hurr I want a girl who's a slut but only for me

Straight men are so stupid.
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>>163029896
Sirris is shit

The DEFINITION of a disloyal harpy

>Swears unfaltering loyalty no matter what happens
>Join Rosaria's Fingers to respec/change appearance
>Suddenly she's your worst fucking enemy and vanishes from your world, even if you help her with her shit first
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>>163030254
enjoy your lung cancer and unemployment when the coal mine gets overused
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>>163030563
Does this mean Yuria is best girl?
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>>163030553
Spotted the faggot/woman
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>>163030673
>coal mine
>in modern US
kek

Most of our local jobs are somehow related to defense contracting.
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>>163030675
Considering she only really becomes aggressive if you try to kill her AND you can get the cosplay rings from her, yes
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>>163030563
She only swears loyalty if you help her kill Creighton and Hodrick, you dumbass.
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>>163030563
>sirris
>disloyal

>only leaves if YOU betray her
>disloyal

>doesn't even attack you just leaves
>disloyal

anon, could you be feeling a bit entitled right now?
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>>163030254
>>163030390

Local maxima. Not everyone can work a $96k a year job, not all jobs can be done without a degree, and not all jobs can support someone outside of a city.

Cities are still a more efficient way for everyone's goods to be distributed, just not always efficient for everyone.

But teaching basic economics to 4chan is a lost cause
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>>163030563
Actually they fixed that.

You can safely respec/change appearance without angering her now.
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>>163030936
damn I'll have to give up my 10 acres and live in a soviet apartment block you sure showed me
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remember when this thread was about Dark Souls?
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>>163030675
Karla is tied with fire keeper on #1 of loyalty
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>>163031238
Nope.
It's always either tangential bullshit or completely dead.
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>>163030846
Sirris gives you a good ring and doesn't get hostile unless you kill her too.
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>>163030673
I'm not even in the US. My job is comparably safe. I inspect and do maintenance on electrical meters and some things involving construction safety.

While I guess it might be possible, I haven't ever heard of someone doing what I do getting hurt.
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>>163030936
>Local maxima.
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>>163031278
seconded for Karla.

idk something about witches, especially when they teach you magic...
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>>163031278
Yeah, Karla is pretty best.
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>>163031093
As someone who enjoys other cultures and works in the financial industry, the thought of taking a huge pay cut, having to spend tons of time taking care of 10 acres of land, living a 2-3 hour drive (minimum) from any semblance of good food, good art, or good entertainment, having to do all my shopping at whatever grocery store or wal mart was in my small town, AND always being 5-15 years behind technologically in my career sounds like a waking nightmare. All just so I can get 'good air' and 'lots of space'.

You do you. But don't go around thinking that people only live in cities because they have to, some of us like being ahead of the curve.
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>>163031278
She takes after the series' real best girl.

Speaking of why was Alva where he was in DS3?
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>>163031604
>wherein a cityfag pretends his shitty company with zero quality control is more efficient and "ahead of the curve" of anything else

also

>I enjoy other cultures
I bet you enjoy them in your GFs pussy
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>>163031685
Trying to free Karla in the dungeons. Might have gone hollow trying since he invades. Who knows.
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>>163031604
Do you actually believe this shit? kek
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>>163031278
>bring back Yuria from DeS
>just change her name
thx memezaki
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>>163031803
>Trying to free Karla in the dungeons.
So it's pretty confirmed she's their daughter?

>Might have gone hollow trying since he invades
Can hollows invade?

Alva had a hard life
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>>163029037
To be fair it's not all just Europe. Lost Izalith is in no small part influenced by mesoamerican architecture and Archdragon Peak has a lot of Centrash Asian/Middle Eastern direct influence.

Dark Souls 2 was going to be VERY South American originally although those influences got kinda scrapped.

Catacombs of Carthus feels ancient egyptian and the architecture at Heide's tower doesn't feel very 'european' either.
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>>163032162
>Lost Izalith is in no small part influenced by mesoamerican architecture
I thought it was Angkor Wat.
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>>163032162
>Dark Souls 2 was going to be VERY South American originally although those influences got kinda scrapped.
I'm kind of upset about that.

Dark Souls 2 was on another continent, right? It would've been cool to have that continent be inspired by America.
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>>163031932
I believe you find his gear on a corpse. The invader could have come from the past with him being killed by the Jailers before he managed to get to her cell.

As for being hollow and invading, I really don't know actually. Hodrick does, but Alva invades as a red.
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They'll put Well What Is It in the final DLC, right?
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>>163032745
no
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>>163032243
Oh yeah, fuck me.
So it was more southeast asian.

>>163032258
I don't know considering Dark Souls 2 doesn't do nature well at all.

Would love something like a Burgerborne mixing 1700s settler shit in america with mystical native american style shit or conquistadore stuff in mesoamerica but I doubt they'll just shit out a Not-BB right away.
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>>163032745
>DLC
>gesture
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>>163031685
Because Miyazaki thinks that people will like his ebin references to past games even if they make no sense.
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>>163032954
>>163032745
>>163032774

Yeah, they can't put it in due to their retarded achievements.

If they added more gestures in the DLCs then you'd need to own the DLCs to be able to get the acheevos and From fucked themselves into not being able to add any new infusions or gestures.
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>respec into a build that can use a UGS
>get all excited about the AR
>take it into PvP
>can't hit shit

FRRRRRRRRRRRRROOOOMMMM!!!!
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>>163031740
if you're scared of niggers stealing your GF's pussy, you must be fucking ugly as sin
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>>163033335
Of course they can add gestures just like they added spells in DaS2/3 and they don't count towards achievements.
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>>163033335

That's the same as saying they can't put more spells in because achievements

That's not a restriction
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>>163033392
Nobody "enjoys other cultures"

That's just such a stupid, senseless virtue signalling statement. How do you enjoy a culture? What the fuck does this even mean? Does it mean you enjoy being surrounding by curry smell?
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>>163031932
>>163032417
>Can hollows invade?
I think so. Like you said, Hodrick does and he also encourages other hollows to invade.
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>>163033360
UGS are most pvp viable in DS2 Pursuer's, LSS, Fume UGS, Greatsword, are all solid mid-high tier weapons. They're also the only things that can trade with chaos blade and come out ahead.
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If they don't add more curved greatswords in the next DLC and buff them I'll swear I'll make sure they never release another game again

Someone post the pepe with a gun for me please I'm so angry I can't even find it
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>>163033589
Curry is delicious tho. Other cultures have a lot to offer.

See, in the city we have to impress dates by being cultured instead of just fucking our cousins.

also you didn't deny being ugly lol
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>>163033392
He's got a point.

I'm black and getting a white girl is either next to impossible or ludicrously easy. When it's ludicrously easy it's because she "Only dates black guys."

I've only ever been with three white girls who'd been with a white guy before me and one's boyfriend turned out to be gay. The other two were from the countryside/suburbs.

I think it's because they have more romanticised views of what black guys are like whereas city girls already have their opinions set and confirmed.

>>163033589
Kek'd
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>>163033698
Miyazaki said the first DLC was gonna be snow or sand. So maybe the second one will be sand instead now? If it is chances are we'll be getting curved swords out the asshole.
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>>163033674

The problem is everyone just dodges around the literal 2 or 3 swings you do (depending on SL) until you're out of stamina and then beat your ass.

People running away forever make me want to kill myself when using a UGS.
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>>163033589
>How do you enjoy a culture?
Cultures are the collective lifestyles of communities. He's saying he is comfortable in a variety of lifestyles and enjoys the variety.
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Can you guys drop this shit and talk about something more productive like talking about the best/worst waifus/husbandos or something else holy fug?

Okay, now about :
Since the shit community pillars are moving away from Souls and into meme games like Pokemon/Let It Die and From will probably have little interest to pander to them after Bamco's done with them, who do you think will inherit their fire?
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>>163034098
Nobody.
The series will be dead after the final DLC.
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In NG++ at SL100
What SL do I have to be to get pings with my Faron Keep/Dorkmoon covenant?
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>invade two dudes having a duel
>throw a firebomb at them
>they chase me to the stairs
>throw the host off

>other phantom sends me hatemail insulting me, saying I have no honor and that he recorded it and will upload it to youtube

Is he just fucking retarded or is there actually an audience for "this invader fucked up our duel and then killed the host :(" videos?
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>>163034206
You realize From will make more Dark Fantasy in the vein of Soulsborne,right?
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>>163033589
You probably bought Sushi at a wal mart and got sick from it so you now hate all Japanese people because decent sushi is 300 miles away from you, and no one is going to overnight good sushi to Bumfuck, KS, USA.

You should try some celebrations, events, restaurants, movies, plays, beer, dancers, or strip clubs made by people other than repressed white farmers. It's great. Or you can just die only experiencing shitty rural culture, which mostly amounts to pre-packaged shit that people in CITIES profit off of, because they know how to get you to spend your money for them.
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>>163034018

Fuck curved swords I need curved GREAT FUCKING SWORDS

And they should improve their startup frames like they did with the greatswords, but since only me and that kangaroo in australia that got punched in the face the other day use them, there are not enough complains about how much shit they are
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>>163033857
>See, in the city we have to impress dates by being cultured
So in your dream world you virtue signal at your women and say "I love curry"
to which she will reply
>oh anon, you are so cultured!
>also you didn't deny being ugly
you didn't deny letting niggers fuck your girlfriend either :^)
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>>163034601
And you didn't deny fucking your cousin lad.

Moral of the story is that whites are the most degenerate race.
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>>163034568
Nigger being able to eat sushi isn't being "cultured". There's sushi restaurants, good ones, in the furthest fucking reaches of everywhere.

I also like how all of you fucking reality-removed city niggers think that in the country, there's only farmers. Like, how naive do you actually have to be? Have you ever been outside the fucking disgusting smog-ridden city you call your home?
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>>163033860
I respect you, my black friend.
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>>163033674
>>163034024

If you use an UGS, you have to use it for heavy punishment and trading. Basically, never approach.

>They roll
Punish with a dead angle sweep or roll attack.
>they attack you
Trade with your 2H R1 and do twice the damage
>They shield turtle
R1 spam and break their guard
>they wait for you to attack first
Sit back and gesture and wait for the fight to actually start. (or swap out to a crossbow).

Also, learn to dead angle. Once you can dead angle, roll punish, and trade, UGS become one of the most fun/satisfying PvP weapons ever.

They'll never be as good as the top-tier weapons (and from what I've heard, they're heavily nerfed for poise in DS3) but they're better than the average weapon.
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>ask a silly question about greatwood boss
>suddenly country bumpkin faggots shitpost the whole thread
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>>163034871
>>163034568
For anyone observing this astonishingly retarded argument: Notice how the anti-white rhetoric comes out immediately. Nothing prompted these anti-white statements.

Never forget that
>I love multiculturalism
means
>I hate whites and their culture
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What is this creature?
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>>163035115
>It's the "Whites are oppressed" meme again.

Man up lad and learn to take a joke.
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>get banned for 3 days last week by hotpockets for a single off topic response
>city/countryside shit goes on for half a thread and nobody cares
Reeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

Either way, if the next dlc is going to be 'sand' themed, I think it's gonna be kind of like the intro cinematic, a desert with crumbling buildings and possibly facing off against a primordial serpent? Or Uncle Gael? There has to be a special reason as to why they're allowing you to summon him even in hollow form.
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>>163035115
>literally complain about curry and niggers from your 1st post
>WAHHHHHH WHY ARE YOU PERSECUTING WHITE PEOPLE WAHHHHH

Are you dumb?
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>>163033857
>I ate at a Thai place once look how cultured I am
>Surely no one south of the Mason-Dixon line can comprehend my worldliness
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>>163011725
Cute pic anon!!
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>>163034568
>he think most people outside of cities are farmers
are you from the 1930's?
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>>163035115
such is life in the year 2016, thank fuck it's gonna be 2017 soon and with it more libtard/mudshits tears are on the horizon.
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>>163035245
She's definitely related to Crossbreed Priscilla somehow.
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>>163034957
I lived in a town of 1000 people 3 hours away from the nearest city, then went to a 10m+ city

The country can be fine to live in, but let's not pretend it it's not what it is: farmers, meth cooks, truckers (shipping things to cities) or people working to support farmers, meth cooks, and truckers. Remove the farmers, the meth cooks and truckers, and everyone there would have to find a new job in a city to survive, unless you're a mountain man who kills his own food, in which case good for you, badass. That's the american way.

You can't just live in the country and honestly think you're getting the most out of life. I might retire to the country, but not until I'm ready to settle down. Until then I want to keep making money and doing fun shit, instead of having to go shoot up an empty lot for fun every time I get bored with video games because there's no new experiences around me.
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>>163035320
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>>163035320
The search for "The Dark Soul of Man" does throw a spanner into the whole sand theme. Who knows though, From might really go hammer and tongs with the Carthus vibe and give us some kind of creepy, middle eastern necropolis.

Or a really slick one. After all those chicas from DaS2 were from a desert.
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>>163035776
Try not to live in a third world country I guess

countryside is 120% the quality of life of cities in first world countries
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>>163034416
There is, you're dead kiddo
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>>163035776
>I lived in a town of 1000 people 3 hours away from the nearest city,
Oh sorry I thought we were talking country, not the ass end of Alaska. Sorry your home town sucked but I'm still not moving to Boston. >implying you aren't just making shit up
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>>163035320
I'm hoping for another Frozen Outskirts, except this time with sand dunes.
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>>163035845
It's funny because I wanted to post that pic originally.

Desert Land of Jugo/Carthus hype?
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>>163035569
>blind dragon reading something that's not braille
heh
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>>163035776
>Remove the farmers
do that and you cityfags gonna get enriched when your chimps start chimping out from lack of food :^)
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>>163036041
What's a Scotsman doing in Egypt?
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>>163035981
What do YOU consider the country? I think the closest thing to a rural area to Boston would be somewhere in the middle of Pennslyvania. Otherwise you're just living in an extended greater area of Boston/Albany/Springfield/Worcester. That's totally different than 'the country', you're still close to a city.

>>163036113
Most farms are corporate owned/subsidized and automated anyway. But farmers need doctors and they need mcdonalds and they need home repair and they need banks and they need etc. and that's what most rural areas ultimately are.
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>>163036120
Well, Jugo doesn't have to work by the same rules as irl scotland does. Maybe the desert is still kinda cold.

>>163035928
We could have something like Samarkand or central asian kind of 'mid-east' which isn't straight up arabic but has some cultural influences. Or spanish type of mix of north african and european.
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>>163036545
>What do YOU consider the country?
Anywhere with a low population density and lots of unoccupied pace. Plenty of places you can live like that complete with cows and all that shit that's less than an hour from a decent sized town or city.
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>>163036042
Please no bully!
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>>163035776
>I lived in a town of 1000 people 3 hours away from the nearest city,
lol
Assuming you aren't just making shit up, you lived in some little mining town, population you and your dad, went straight to the fucking metropolis, and now you think you know that city life is the best and nothing else compares?
Jesus.
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>>163022867
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>>163036568
Who knows. Having a massive mosque level could be awesome. A circular Cathedral of the Deep almost, though it'd work in a narrative sense cause the Dark Sign is circular? Who knows. We might just end up in Londor.
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>>163036948
>massive mosque level
Archdragon Peak
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>>163036706
I'm thinking more Kansas, Nebraska, Oklahoma, Texas, Alabama, Arkansas, Wyoming, Montana, Nevada, and Utah where you can live and die your whole live without ever seeing a city.

Living an hour away from the city, and driving in on the weekends to have fun seems like an ideal thing to me. Best of both worlds.
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Is Luck/Faith any good?
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>>163036794
>blind dragon without legs that no one liked also not immortal
heh
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>>163036545
>But farmers need doctors and they need mcdonalds and they need home repair and they need banks and they need etc.
keep going this shit is hilarious
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>>163037129
What's the point?
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>>163036851
Montana, Kansas, Oklahoma, wyoming, and utah are full of places like these. They're little 1000-2000 population towns that are spaced every 30-60 miles along the highway and live off of tourists and the local truckers for farmers, and the state capitol is always about a days drive away from them.

People in the south tend to forget that southern population density is actually pretty high (about the same as california) compared to the western USA.
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Good thread guys
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>>163037085
Arch Dragon Peak isn't that circular.

>Inb4 Church
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>>163037356
>People in the south tend to forget that southern population density is actually pretty high (about the same as california) compared to the western USA
This is definitely true. I grew up in Alabama, now in Washington. It's very easy to feel like you're in the middle of nowhere in Alabama, but the truth is you have human settlement somewhere within a few miles in one direction or another. If you're in the middle of nowhere out here, it's an entirely different matter.
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>>163037145
I like him and he is cute!
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>>163037362
problem?
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>>163037487
>Big open room beneath the largest dome is a boss fight arena

Make it happen From.
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>>163037668
He's also dead
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>people discussing wether life is better on the country or in the city
posting from a muncipality

l o l
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>>163037821
Rude! You should post cute instead!
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>>163037787
not gonna happen because they are not allowed to model him
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>>163038021
Why do you have so many pictures of this abomination?
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Anybody wanna join me and take out Rotted Greatwood? Mad Phantom Hodrick will also spawn, and I'm a sunbro so there's a medal in it too.

I'm on PC by the way.
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>>163038236
I like cute pics
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/dsg/ - dead souls game
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>>163038497
sure
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>>163039063
Neat! Dilapidated Bridge.
Pass: dsg

I'll be there in a sec.
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>>163037320
I want to heal in Co-op and also wield Anri's SS.
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>invade
>it's a "fightclub hosted by some faggot who will turn on hacks if you dont play his shitty game at a 30% HP penalty" episode
kill me
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>Friede attacks you just because you were mirin'

Hey fuck you cunt
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This retarded country/city debate kind of reminded me:
Do you guys prefer 'open' levels in Souls like Road of Sac / AoA or do you prefer tightly built and controlled locations like 1-1 / Sen's Fortress / Grand Archives?

Personally I'm a fan of both because I like the freedom of 'open' maps and they often make me feel like there's more to explore than already is, but I also think that the combat system heavily favours built areas and works less well in open areas.
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Seath is the most tragic DS character.

All he wanted was to be accepted, read his books, and live forever like the other dragons.

But unlike other tragic characters, he actually took matters into his own hands and DID something about it, becoming a badass in the process and actually achieving the closest thing to immortality in the series... all for some chosen undead to show up one day and try to kill him. Why? Because Gwyn decided to use the chosen undead as his personal hit squad by forcing him to kill off all of his allies before being able to kill his hollow bearded ass.

But even after that, Seath had a fuckin' plan to deal with the chosen undead by trapping him instead of blindly murdering him like the others. By DS1 Seath was still one of the last bastions of intelligence in a world that had gone to shit.

But nope. I need this arbitrary soul because Gwyn is a curmudgeony old dick, so we're gonna kill the last (known) dragon.

Seath is like if Otacon became Rambo, and the main player
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>>163039498

I wish to see the game that was originally supposed to be
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>>163039498
i like open areas more because i like to have room to maneuver
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>>163039498
As someone who enjoys other cultures and works in the soul gathering industry, the thought of acquiring much fewer souls, having to spend tons of time sprinting through 10 acres of land, resting a 2-3 bonfire warp (minimum) from any semblance of good souls, good weapons, or good enemies, having to do all my soul spending at whatever NPC is in this huge zone, AND always being 5-15 years behind graphically in the zone sounds like a waking nightmare. All just so I can get 'exploration' and 'lots of fun'.

You do you. But don't go around thinking that people only like small zones because they have to, some of us like being ahead of the curve.
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>>163039648
Elaborate?
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>>163039498
I like both, as long as they are used in extreme.

Painted world can be open, Forest of Fallen Giants should be tight. But what's important is that when they're tight or open they FEEL tight or open and the game uses that to its advantage.

Frozen Outskirts, Painted World, Anor Londo, etc. were some of my favorite areas for that reason. They were VAST and open and you felt like a small invader.

But then Drangleic Castle, Sen's Fortress, and Iron Keep are also some of my favorite areas too, because of the sensation of having to slowly work your way through a complicated, tight fortress.

If all the levels in the game were the same (or if the open/tight areas never utilized their design as part of the aesthetic) then it would be really boring.
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>>163039624
>Seath had a fuckin' plan to deal with the chosen undead by trapping him instead of blindly murdering him like the others.
he only did that because he didn't want you to respawn infinitely and killing him through attrition/dumb luck.
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Jesus christ I'm way too terrible to be juggling these spells in group pvp but it's fun.
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>>163040008
Yeah, and it's a good plan. It just sucks that his guards are shit.
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>>163039904

The open world game, what that map in Majula was supposed to be for
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>>163039624
>psychotic murderer
>backstabbing opportunist
>creepy rape scientist
>absentee father
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>>163040086
does dark edge deal OK damage or is it mediocre?
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>santzo84 going full DSP on friede's fight
i'm usually not watching twitchfags but seeing him repeatedly raped after he r1 mashed maria into the ground is satisfying
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>>163039063
Thanks for the boost! Nice job tanking two grab attacks in a row.
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>>163040129
that's what you get for employing hollows
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FAVORITE SOUNDING ENEMIES GO
DeS
>False King Allant
>Tentacle face dudes in ToL

DaS
>Black knight death cry
>Oolacile residents
>Smough laughing
>Artorias' death cry

DaS2
>Fume's wrathful grunting
>Burnt Ivory King's "fwhy"
>Looking Glass Knight death

DaS3
>Pontiff angry grunting
>those invisible dudes in Irithyll
>Those hairy spidery poison ladies
>those fucking fags who scream upon item retrieval
>wolf howls

BB
>brainsuckers
>winterlanterns
>Amelia
>Ludwig
>Lady Maria
>Orphan

Who/what did I miss lads?
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>>163040312
Mediocre, like 550-ish.

I just want to use it.
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>>163039969
>Drangleic Castle
So much lost potential.
I think the biggest fuckery with Drangleic Castle for me was how the level had the opportunity to be decently interconnected but they kind of wasted opportunies when they had a mostly indoors space to work with. And finding the key to King's passage from the bondage mummy room felt really stupid.

Dark Souls 2 had a lot of potential. Thankfully From took some of the cool concepts into Dark Souls 3 and made them work.
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>>163040396
>tfw you get gimped from 1821hp to just 700
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>>163040539
550 vs a player? that's good
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>go back to my ng +8 to do the ashes dlc for the first time
>get to phase 3 and manage to get her down to 10%
>the scythe decap one shots me

This is pretty shit but I do enjoy the sound her feet make when she walks. Oh well I hate getting one shot so fuck this shit for now
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Guise, is Pontiff's Left Eye any good nowadays?
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>>163040693
It would be if it wasn't as hard to land.
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You can bring only 5 (five) weapons and 5 (five) armors from past games in the next DLC

Which ones do you choose?
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>>163011841
his child is emerald herald
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>>163040793
NONE
OF
THEM
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>>163040771
ah... so that's the catch
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>>163040793

The dorito swords is all I require tbqh phamily
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>>163037093
>I'm thinking more Kansas, Nebraska, Oklahoma, Texas, Alabama, Arkansas, Wyoming, Montana, Nevada, and Utah where you can live and die your whole live without ever seeing a city.
People haven't lived like that in almost a century. I live in Alabama myself.

>Living an hour away from the city, and driving in on the weekends to have fun seems like an ideal thing to me. Best of both worlds.
Exactly. And this is what most of rural America is like these days. Stuff to do without mandatory crowds, high cost of living, and crime. Nice scenery and privacy without inconvenience from lack of services.
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>>163040628
I would fix Dark souls 2 by making the entire game only take place in Iron Keep, Drangleic Castle, Lost Bastille, Forest of Fallen Giants, and Aldia's Keep.

Use FFG as hub world, the rest are the "4 castles" you have to go to, then revisit once you get the King's Ring. Give each castle 3-4 bosses and have lots of intertwined levels, very much like how the DLC is designed.
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sup guys haven't been here for a while, pokemon is fun.
how's the pvp now?
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>>163040793
Weapons
>tracers
>demon great machete
>scraping spear
>dragon bone smasher
>Loyce GS

Armor
>Fluted set
>Garl's set
>Flower Skirt
>Looking Glass set
>Ciaran's set
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>>163014963
no you couldn't, ds2 is shit compared to all other souls games and you wont just forget that.
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>>163038054
>not wanting a bossfight with a giant burning glyph
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>>163041008
>how's the pvp now?
git out
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>>163039624
Seath also managed to stash his soul in a giant spider.

>>163039737
top kek
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Could anyone drop a fresh spawn at the high wall a gotthard twinblade and hunter's ring so I can role my weapon from the start? Ps4 btw
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>>163041217
still shit then?
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>>163024385
that's like the worst gwyndolin pic ever.
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Has anyone here perfected their dark souls 3 waifus?

Mines all still look like shit
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>>163040086
>trying to be a hexer in DS3
Shine on you crazy diamond
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>>163027194
that solaire is gwyn son was always autistic and never made any sense, i'm glad ds3 finally showed that he isn't.
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>>163041298
A fresh WHAT
I might be on later tonight if you don't find anybody
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>>163040628
>Dark Souls 2 had a lot of potential. Thankfully From took some of the cool concepts into Dark Souls 3 and made them work.
Not enough.

>>163040984
Add comfy night time Majula and we're in business
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>>163041342
It's impossible, because sliders are retarded in this game.
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I just started playing DS3 and how often do you get summoned for Way of the Blue covenant?
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>>163041473

That's what I'm saying but there must be one autist who made the perfect waifu after hours or messing with sliders

I literally just came back to what I thought was a good waifu months ago and it looks like a fucking ape
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Which of the three Souls on PC are still breathing?
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>>163040838
Nah Aldia made Shanalotte. Ocerios is just mirin

>>163041108
I played all three souls game for the first time this year and I think DaS 2 is my favorite.
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>>163041573
What we really need are the sliders on that zombie guy.
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>>163041575
All of them excluding basic version of DS2 because everyone switched to Scholar
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>>163041342
About as close as I've gotten so far
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>>163041342
the chin/jaw never comes out right, it's always slightly fucked up no matter how many times i try fixing it
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>>163040516
DeS:
>Fat Minister Laugh
I'm getting triggered whenever I hear that "ehhehehehehheh"-laugh
>normal soldiers
"Hop hop hop hop hop hop"

DaS:
>Wheel skeletons
>New Londo Ghosts when they die
>Iron Golem
>fart lizards

DaS2:
>Piggies because lul pig noises
>allahuakbar zombies
>Royal swordsmen
I just love the clatter of their armor

DaS3:
>Corvian citizens
>snekman summoners
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>>163041575
All of them. DS3 is the most crowded but DaS 1 and DaS 2 still have a decent sized playerbase. Of the three, the one likely to feel LEAST crowded is DaS 2 though. Between the size ofthe game and the crappy soul memory matchmaking, you're somehwat less likely to get summoned/invaded in that game than in DaS 1 despite it having more players.
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>Elite Knight Set is basically Astora Set
>Astora GS
>Astora SS

r8 my cosplay
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>>163041724
Not bad but the jawline looks fucked up. I think the problem is a lot of people are trying to make anime waifus and it just doesn't work at all in the DaS engine. You gotta make a western NPC.

>>163041741
See?
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>>163041575
All of them? DS1 and 2 have some 2000-3000 players constantly. DS3 is on the decline but I'm pretty sure it's still above those two.

I guess original DS2 is pretty dead. It's only like 500 players, everyone else is on SOTFS.
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>>163040516
Girlwoods from DS3 dlc
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>>163041724
jawline too weak, looks a bit like felicia day
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>>163041303
ofc, passivefaggotry is at an all time high
>MUH RANKING
>*UNZIPS META WEAPON*
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>>163040793
I haven't played DS3, so forgive me if these were added into DS3 already, but these are what I want to see in DS3

Weapons:
DS1 Greatsword
Orma and Reeve's Greatshields (counting as 1. Also give them the ability to both block simultaneously like the imperious knights)
Blue Flame
DS2 style twinblade (or santier's spear)
Silver Knight Straight sword

Armor:
Giant's Armor (DS1)
Ornstein's set (DS1)
Royal Swordman's Armor (DS2)
Raime's Set (DS2)
Loyce Set
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>>163041741
>>163041868

Not only that

But when you go and fix one part of the face, it fucks up something else

I got something that looked good went in game and the lips were sticking out like nuts
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>>163041742
>fat minister laugh
Fuck that cheeky cunt

>New Londo ghost death
Agreed

>swordsmen armor
Agreed

>snekmen summoners
And agreed

Good taste anon

>>163041897
The frostbreath sounds great
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>>163041868
>DaS3 runs on bloodborne's engine
>you can make qt girls in bloodborne
>in DaS3 all you get are down's syndrome retards
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>>163041752
>soul memory
I'll never forgive From for this sin
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>>163041603
>I played all three souls game
>all three
also lmaoing at your taste
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>>163041971
Ornstein's set is already in and I think that's it.
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>>163042086
That's bullshit though, DeS is the only game in the series that allowed for QTs.

Bloodborne waifus all look like weakly alien people.
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>>163042086
>>you can make qt girls in bloodborne

Source?
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>>163041851
Oscar, the guy who wore the Elite Knight Set, was a knight of Astora.

Also, does the mean it's implied in DS1 that Oscar of Astora was a chosen undead also, but he first died in Darkroot garden, leaving his set behind?

It also always bugged me that the Knight set was harder to get than the Elite Knight set in DS1.
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>>163042161
DeS used oblivion's character creation tho.
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>>163042092
Yeah possibly their worst design decision ever.
>>
>>163042092
>>163041752

I think that has more to do with the fact that everyone playing SOTFS online is using red sign / dragon eye. But if you play DS1 you still invade with cracked red eye orb.

DS1 is probably still better for invading and killing, DS2 is better for group ganks or duels.
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>>163042217
Oscar dies in Asylum you doofus.
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>>163042217
dude time is convoluted lmao

also oscar got fucking brutalized when content needed to be cut, he was supposed to play a very central role and meet you several times throughout the game, following whichever snake you didn't
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>>163040793
Weapons:
>Golem Axe
>Sanctum Crossbow
>Twinblade
>Puzzling stone sword
>Demon's Great Machete
Armors:
>Chester's Set
>Royal Swordsman set
>Elite Cleric set
>Steel set
>Binded set(unisex)
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>>163040793
does she eventually make it out of the wall??
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>>163041962
epic
the only way to play aggressive is with curved swords and they're broken as all fuck. what a fucking joke
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>>163042904
No and the local government ruled that it was legal to repurpose her as a toilet. She now lives off the shit of passersby.
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>>163014105

Anyone tried overlaying the the DS3 map over the DS1 map using Anor Londo as the focal point to see how the locations match up?
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>>163042270
>DS1: "It's no fair, you can min max and twink everyone to death!"
>DS2: "It's no fair, we can't all gather around a single soul level for dueling!"

There's just no pleasing some people.

Soul memory allows for more invasions and better matchmaking than SL did, but makes it harder to do organized battles (like DS1's 'gentleman agreements' on SL 80 or 120)

And to be honest, no one at From probably imagined anyone would want to do organized PvP in DS1.

All SOTFS did wrong was include souls not spent on your character or current weapons/spells as part of your build. So if you wanted to change weapons and armor after speccing up, you had to invest another 400k souls on purchases and upgrades.

Vanilla DS2 (without agape ring) was a nightmare though.
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>>163040793
Greatsword of Artorias, the real one, not the ulgy abyss one we got
Gwyndolin's set
Also the Burial Knight armor, not really from the past but I wish I had it, it looks so beautiful, so much better than Vilheim's armor
I don't care about other weapons/armors
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>>163042270
This, the very fact that you can get "underleveled" for your current SM and there's nothing you can do about it completely killed my enthusiasm for this game.
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>Use up all my rebirths
>Don't wanna go into ng +8 to get 1 shotted even more

This 5 limit shit is the most retarded thing ever
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Patch when?
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>>163041342
This is the best I managed to do
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>>163043173
You can only get underleveled if you bought and upgraded a ton of items and weapons post-game or went onto NG+ without using agape ring. Othewise you'll be within ~20% of the other player's SL every time.
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>>163042217
>Knight set was harder to get than Elite Knight
They're pretty much on the same level.

>>163042161
>DeS character creator
You have a choice between FAS babies and Downs babies in DeS.

>DaS chatacter creator
You can make actual varied human beings but they lack beards.

>DaS2 character creator
You can make cute grills and you have beards but all the men look like faggy twinkboys

>DaS3
Can make convincing looking men but women look like trannies lmao.
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>>163041352
To be fair I'm being a SL130 piece of shit.
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>>163043403
You can give slight beards in 1, nothing bigger than laurentius though
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>>163035245

Ignorant slaves, finally taken notice have you?

Dragons have the power to create new worlds. When the world was taken from them at the beginning of the Age of Fire, even Gwyn realized that their power was needed to continue and create new worlds. The Dragons have never truly died out, as letting their power disappear would mean the end of everything.

Everything you see, every world you've been in has been a Painted World, created to the current rulers' liking.
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>>163042161

DeS and Dark souls 1 had a decent creator for qts

Dark souls 2 had a decent one as well until SOTFS where everything looked like it had slick vaseline and the lighting was shit

Dark souls 3 is just bad
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>now in the farming portion of my DaS1 SL1 run

give me some jams to numb the pain /dsg/
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>>163043164
His neck and legs are not really protected are they?
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>>163043489
OOOOHHHH SHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIT
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>>163041446
I'll keep an eye out thank you
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>>163043604
Not really
But I don't give a flying fuck, this set is fashion as hell
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>>163043567
This your first SL1 run?
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>>163043673
What time is it there?
20:34 reporting in
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>>163011828
>>163011952
what?
for what purpose?
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I don't understand what you guys like about these games.
They're slow, take forever to install, and there's no action at all.
I don't even know where the fucking boss fights are, there's no weapons anywhere, and it's just complete shit.

Fuck Dark Souls.

this is a joke
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>>163043567

What's the point of sl1 runs?

Get hit once you die

It's frustrating and time consuming
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>>163043307
wat
how?
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>>163043758
yes. i've already got my main damage weapons (chaos/lightning reinforced clubs, ascended flame +5), right now i'm just making shit for dickass invasions and fully upgrading armors.

>>163043961
it's fun
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>>163043961
>get hit once
Lul. Some enemies will cream you in one hit but most don't.

And it's about finding and testing new strats that help you survive.
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>>163043348
>>163043173
Also, once you hit SL150, your characters stop becoming more "powerful". Beyond SL150 you just get more diverse and start doing more damage / having more spells, but you can get pretty much maxed out health, AR, fast roll and decent stamina on any SL150 build.

SL200 builds are just not as locked into one play style, so you can change things up and play more unpredictably (as well as stack more buffs and such) but they have about the same damage, health, and stamina as SL150.

And it's almost impossible to be SL150 vs SL250 unless you've spent 5x more souls on titanite than you did on your level.
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>>163043348
But that's the point, I'm not him but I like trying a lot of weapons and before the game was out, I couldn't understand why everyone was so much stronger than me.

SM could be good if it only ever counted: level souls + souls spent on currently carried equipment (not to mention the worst part of this: equipment soul upgrade price is NEVER tied to its usefulness, which means you might invest more for an awful return) , but as it stands, it is the worst matchmaking From has ever made and nothing they did fully fixed it
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>>163043961
>Get hit once you die
That doesn't even happen during most bossfights, outside of a select few super telegraphed moves or getting counterhit.
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>>163043923
To make the game a lot more fun than vanilla. Same with my DS1 version, which had you fight Havel, Sif and 4 kings first before anything else.
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>>163043907
Samesies
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Can somebody help me with Champion's Gravetender on PC? I'm at the bonfire.

pass dsg
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>>163044218
I think part of it was to encourage players to replay the game more often, so that there was a wider variety of SM to invade/be invaded by.

Agape Ring also lets you farm unlimited upgrade equipment without consuming souls, it's just having to buy all the upgrade items that really tanks your SM.

I can see why people hate it, but it's a fine system and in any other series (especially one with less of a 'git gud' 'umadbro' invasion mentality) the system would be praised.
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What's the best build for PvE? In particular, I'd like to do lots of damage with a preferably low level. I plan on doing a 100% run where I take care of all bosses/quests first and collect map items last.

Are there bonfire ascetics in DS3?
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>>163044493
Sure
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>>163044717
No bonfire ascetics thankfully.
And bleed builds are op as fuck.
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>>163043324
>blue and green eyes
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>>163044807
B-but then how do I acquire boss souls twice? With an entire new game?
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>>163044757
cool thanks man
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Do you guys sit out uneven matches if your team has more players?
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>>163044825
It's cute. CUTE.
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>>163044353
i guess?
I just play the game lmao
i like DaS2: Scholars as it is already
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>>163044446
Alright cool lad
If you don't find anyone by tomorrow just add me, munkyboy96 no bully please I was 10
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>>163044002

Overpowered glitch that no one seems to care about.
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>>163045003
Honstly, you don't think the game would be more fun if you got to level up early and fight at NG+ levels, and skipped the awfulness that is Brightstone Cave and The Gutter?
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>>163044952

>no Great Deep Soul

literally why
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>>163045130
>no one seems to care about
das3 in a nutshell
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>>163045252
ENDLESS SPAM

It does like 200 damage and it's mostly to annoy the shit out of people.
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>>163044757
Awesome, at 200 damage a hit I wouldn't have done it without ya.
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>>163044002
bloodlust WA then weapon swap
rincow only
only dipshits abuse glitchs for easy wins, don't do it
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>>163045348

But Great Deep Soul is literally the same but better.
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>>163045494
It costs more FP and more stamina (yes, this is relevant). I just use it to make people go aggressive or to spam while a teammate is fighting someone.

I've already used GDS a bunch on my 60 INT dude.
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>>163045393
What SL are you my man? got kinda surprised how gimped I got when summoned
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>>163045139
Brightstone Cave is fine and The Gutter is amazing, i don't know what you're talking about but that's your opinion.
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>>163044593
You forget agape took about 1 year to be introduced. One full year where I'd need to make backups or discard characters simply because I wanted to PvP at SL 50, 70 or 100 which are very easy SLs to PvP at in the other games.

What offended me even more was that they used SM mostly to kill twinks, that is fair, but then they went ahead and filled the game with pre upgraded weapons which, coupled with agape, remove the only thing it was helping at.
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>>163041342
Yeah.
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>>163045015
Even if I get somebody before that thank you. I'll add you up if I don't
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>>163045679
>perfect
L M A O
M
A
O
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>>163045679
Sorry to break it to you, but it looks like dogshit.
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>>163045567

>~30 stamina vs. ~20
>9 FP cost vs. 6 FP
>but you get ~350 damage instead of 200

I dunno man
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>>163045679
That looks like absolute garbage my man
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>>163045798
Just tried on multiple enemies and GDS seems to do exactly 40% more damage.
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>>163041342
A long time ago, I made this and got some (You)s

I've been very silent on the waifu side, it's not easy even at angles specifically tailored to get a good look
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>>163045779
>>163045795
I still think it looks nicer than a lot of other people's...
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>>163046151
>>163046090

The secret to winning (you)s is to make your waifu look like a blow up doll, not an actual woman
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>>163045606
49. I have 39 Vig and pretty much basic str and dex.
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>>163044952
Normally I do, but there's always that one guy who has to come try to take over my tower. He get's Millwoods for the rest of the match.
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>>163046245
I don't like blow up dolls
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Upon revisiting it in NG++ for the fucking get all rings Achievement, I think I have to say that DSIII Demon Ruins is a contender for the worst area in the series.
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>>163046428
>in the series
You know not of what you speak
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Looks better in game I swear. Ps4 screenshot doesn't do it justice.
Do your worst.
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>>163046913
>his character have body writing that was written when she was being gangbanged
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gUYS i BEAT SISTER FREEZE solo with TWO estus left
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>>163046913

I like it.
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>>163011606
why do 99% of the elevators in these games have bottomless pits under them, it's ok to make an elevator that touches the ground....
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>>163047148
>implying it's not cum
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>>163046748
lmao saved
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>>163047719
Is the gargoyle shortcut in 1 the only exception?
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Is there a single person in this general with fashion sense? I've seen 2 good outfits posted in all my time here
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Snap Freeze should have been a frosty reskin or Doryhs's Gnawing.

Debate me.
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>>163047907
Post your fashion and educate us.
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>>163047719
might be a game engine limitation. ever been crushed by something in a souls game?
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ANYONE UP FOR A FC ?
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>>163048318

Sure.
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who was harder the sister fight or the Champion's Gravetender & Gravetender Greatwolf |
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>>163048086
I just use the firelink set because I like it. Haven't started experimenting yet only had dark souls for a week or so. but that doesn't mean I can tell shitty fashion when I see it
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>>163048779
>this entire post
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>>163048318
I wish it wasn't almost 4am in my timezone right now.
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>>163041342
Eh, I've spent hours and hours trying to create cute girls in ds3.
It can work, but only for a rather specific face type. If you're trying to recreate another person you're kinda fucked.
Nowadays I fuel that autism in my 3d modelling instead, where I'm not constrained by gook's stupid beauty standards.
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>>163048779
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What up, /dsg/
Here's a quick question, how low do you think DaS3 could go on the Christmas steam sale if such happens?
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>>163049195
40 burgers
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>>163049195
Check isthereanydeal.com and see how low it's been so far.
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>>163022867
Do you still need this?
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>>163047734
>bodywriting a bitch after a gangbang
>with your cum
1x new fetish acquired
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>>163048359
FC AT HIGH WALL THEN
GARRUS AND SHITTY DRAWINGS EDITION

Please come /dsg/, don't let me down

>>163048885
It's 4am soon for me too, but I'm a lazy NEET
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>>163048779
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When will they fix Dancer's undodgable, instakill attack?
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i'm replaying ds2 for the third time and i still don't understand these bloodstains at areas where it's seemingly impossible to die. there are no enemies anywhere and it's not possible to aggro them over there. are they just ancient pvp bloodstains? also what's up with the millions of deaths inside the majula mansion?
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>>163047907
r8 my fashion famalam
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Anyone care to post a DS2 build roll image?
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Hey, got two questions:
does any of you lot still play DaS2?
Got some tips for a straight up beginner?
I'm going in blind apart from what you tell me
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>>163049914
I need to mule some things too, fellers if you don't mind
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>>163050198
When you git gud
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>>163046428
I haven't played DS3 but even I know that it can't be worse than DS1's demon ruins
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>>163048024
Snap freeze should always trigger damage even if you're rolling and frost should be buffed to slow stamina regen more on top of doing more stamina damage. Why would you take away the only decent-ish spell from poor frost casters?
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>>163050471
Hon hon hon
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>>163050406
Well, I can do it. I have a newbie at the high wall anyways. Tell me what you need, pass, etc, and I'll be there.
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>>163050380
my 1st protip is there is a ridiculous amount of hidden shit everywhere so look around
and 2nd tip is pick bandit and lvl str, dex and hp and 2 hand the axe for easy mode
hope you're playing the sotfs version
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>>163050539
>Sap freeze should always trigger damage even if you're rolling
You can roll through or away from snap freeze without getting the proc, can't you? I don't know, I don't pvp. But in pve it should be frosty Gnaw.
> frost should be buffed to slow stamina regen more on top of doing more stamina damage.
Agreed
>Why would you take away the only decent-ish spell from poor frost casters?
They literally have only one spell. I want to improve it.
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>>163050406
Actually I just realized that's a problem due to not having the red soapstone. I'll come on my main.
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>>163050089
FC STARTS NOW

Sorry, I had a long ass loading screen, more than 5 fucking minutes
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If any of you were in the PC 2v2/3v3 arena the last few hours, I had a great time playing. It took me an hour or two to get used to my spell/catalyst swaps but after that it worked out alright.
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>>163050731
You can't roll away from snap freeze, it's a mist type spell. And the best one at that, too. I honestly think Freeze is better than poison and toxic as its effects are immediate and you're instantly rewarded for proccing freeze on someone. Also it's my second most used spell on the arena because it sets up heals so easily.
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>>163050380
A lot of people play DS2 SOTFS still, mostly for the PvP.

Here's a few tips:

1. Upgrade materials are VERY scarce in early game. Upgrade carefully and wisely.

2. If you're having trouble with an area, go back to Majula and start a new path. There's 5 possible paths to take. 1 requires an NPC, 1 requires an item, 1 requires a tricky set of jumps, and the last 2 are free from the start.

3. You can skip most of the early game if you reach 1m soul memory.

4. There are two places to get boss soul weapons, save your boss souls until you get both, since some souls work for either.

5. Co-op often and frequently. It makes the boss fights (which are the lowest part of the game) a lot more fun and there are plenty of NPC summons.
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>>163050573
I just need to drop a few rings and sword for a new character. Pass is dsg123. You summon me. I'll leave my sign by the bonfire
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>>163050321
Not him but it looks pretty bad
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>>163050737
What is that needed for? I haven't done this before. I thought passwords allowed you to summon anyone regardless of level?
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>>163050924
I don't see a sign yet. You're using red, right?
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>>163050852
It would be decent if you couldn't roll through the damage, but without even the pitiful 200 or so damage it does after having to cast it 4+ times it doesn't feel worth taking just for the debuff it gives. I guess it would help for controlling where your enemies go at least or buying yourself time to do other things.
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>>163050423
I finally did beat Dancer, SL30 too

Obviously not as much of an accomplishment as SL1 NG+8, but still
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>>163050089
Maybe you should host on europe's prime time sometime instead of burgerland
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>>163051049
You can't summon yellows if you've cleared the boss, but you can summon reds.
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>>163050089
>>163050791

Pass is dsg right?
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>>163050579
>>163050912
Cool, thanks a lot, famalams. And yeah, I'm playing SOTFS version on PC.

Last thing before I set out for the grand adventure, does any of the starting item sets open hidden areas / unlock great treasures that I should be aware of?
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>>163050380
tip1
start with demon's souls or dark souls 1
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>>163051257
If you get the Petrified Something you can crow trade it for a random item, I usually go for that.
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>>163051115
Yes, you use it for the utility. It creates space while being the best debuff in the game.
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>>163051237
Yes
One sign for now
I'll summon once there will be 2 signs, if there isn't any more signs in about 10 minutes I'll cancel the FC
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>>163050321
Looks like a serious case of too much leg day.
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>>163051257
No. Starting classes in DS2 are basically all identical/pointless.

The best you can do is get the Bonfire ascetic as a gift, which lets you farm some titanite chunks before getting to the second half of the game. This makes it possible to get a +10 weapon before you fight early bosses, but outside of challenge runs it's not necessary.

I would say that as long as you fully explore the first few areas, you'll find plenty of goodies to match your play style for the at least the first 75% of the game.
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>>163051049
Okay bro, I set down my red sign. Same pass. Summon me.
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Should I make a str/faith build for pvp? is it fun

I dunno what to play quality is boring and I dunno if theres any dex weapons I like alot
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>>163051257
Oh also, something that really surprised me my first playthrough: Enemies stop respawning after 10-15 deaths, so soul / upgrade farming is slightly punished.
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>>163051257
Deprived is generally the best way to go if you're unsure of your build. You can respec into everything, 'tis nice.
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Planning a low sl friedes scythe build. Any recommendations on my plan so far?

https://mugenmonkey.com/darksouls3/127518
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>>163051517
Thank you so much my good man.
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>>163051402
Well, it's the only debuff so there isn't much of a contest. Besides, after getting hit with the frost debuff do you actually feel like it's making a difference? The effects are hardly noticeable.
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>>163051809
I forgot to give you your ring of favor, summon me again. Oops.
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>>163051257
You're actually making me want to play again, anon. Let us know if you want to dick around with some summons.
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Post that delicious femboi Gwyndolin
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>>163051854
I forgot too. Didnt so much need that one but figured why not. Thanks bro
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>>163051591
It's 12, but they keep respawning if you are in the covenant of champions.
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>>163051854
Good deal man. I'm set for humanities forever now. Thank you!
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>>163052048
Anytime. Us PS4fags gotta stick together.
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>>163051963
If you want to play again, check out:

>>163011828 and >>163011952

Makes the game a lot more challenging/fun, skips the worst areas and bosses.
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>>163052220
I still have over a hundred more too. That lothric knight farm really gets you rolling in it. The embers was my apology for not doing it right the first time.
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>>163052239
Stop advertising this autistic garbage.
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>use elite knight set in DaS3
>change the chest piece
>makes so many different chest pieces look beautiful

What is this sorcery???
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I was thinking of doing a Spear in Main Hand and a Short Sword / Dagger in Off Hand. Ideally I'd like to PvP.

Any build recommendations? Do people even use spears in PvP?
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>>163052004
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>>163051963
You got it, man.
Thanks for the help, everyone, gonna finish up my character now
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>>163052352
That more than makes up for it. Good luck to you
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>>163052239
Holy tits. Yeah that would be more challenging, seems kind of grindy though.
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>>163052352
>30 vig
>57 vit
What the fuck
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FC at High Wall, come over people the host is getting lonely. Pass dsg.
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>>163052563
PVE only character with no level cap who likes to use excessively heavy equipment.
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>>163052484
I believe the consensus on spears are that they're okay.
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>>163052484
They deflect easy and don't have hyper armor, but otherwise are great.
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Is there ever a use for shield bash?
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>>163043056
It should only have factored in souls spent on levels and weapon/armor upgrades though. Buying ammo or life gems or hexes or whatever eventually fucks you.
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>>163052896
lmao
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>>163049914
I could still use the help yeah, thank you for replying so much later.
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>>163052976
Okay, let me get out of my pock farming gear and dump my inventory into the box and I'll meet you at the high wall. Pass?
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>>163053051
dsg. I'm moving somme ng+ rings so feel free to back up a file to keep them if you need them.
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>>163053201
Nah I don't need it. This is my 100% PVE file anyways so I'll be getting them all naturally anyways. I put my sign down.
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>>163050289
>also what's up with the millions of deaths inside the majula mansion?
people farming human effigies with bonfire aesthetics. 5 NG+6 skeletons are no joke to a low level player
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>>163050471
It is.
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>>163053416
Not even close.
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>>163053201
Hit me when you're done dropping things so I can BSC out. Or just kill me, it's fine.
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>>163053484
It's just a bunch of bland identical hallways with recycled enemies
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>>163053590
You sound like you're talking about the Demon Ruins in DS1
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>>163053636
In DS1 it's hyperbole with a grain of truth. In DS3 it is the 100% literal truth
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>>163053636
I agree with him. It's really just hallways filled with bullshit enemies. I hate it.
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>>163053704
>>163053738
Nah, fuck off. Demon Ruins in DS1 was literal cancer. Nothing in Smouldering Lake in DS3 is anywhere near as bad.
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>still going to Faguette FCs
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>>163053819
Smouldering Lake is not Demon Ruins.
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>people actually think ds3 demon ruins are anywhere near ds1 post anorlondo
Sometimes I like to think it's an extreme case of rose-tinted goggles but this is somehow worse
Yes, ds3 is linear as fuck with lazy design. But saying demon ruins 3 is worse than demon ruins 1 is retarde
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>week before dlc announcement
>patch to show painter girl working on her painting
>dlc release
>painting is finished, painter girl is dead
>dlc 2 is a painting in a painting
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>>163054208
The only thing that could possibly make DS3 demon ruins better than DS1 demon ruins is that in DS3 they're not mandatory.
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>>163053974
>Not wanting to have fun
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>>163054208
>>163053981
>>163053819
>>163053738
>>163053704

There's "lazy, bad design, boring" bad and then there's "Broken and never should have been released like this" bad. DS1 is the latter.
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>>163054459
Bed of Chaos gave you that much trouble?
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>>163054434
>fun
>Faguette
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>>163054459
At the very least, we can agree they both suck, right?
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>>163053510
Thanks a ton man! One last thing, and be honest. Was I a knight or a K***ht?
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>>163054959
I didn't notice any ***, but I didn't look hard. I think you were Knight.
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>>163054493
DS1's demon ruins:
>Easiest and worst boss in the franchise
>all the enemies are recycled bosses from earlier parts of the game
>eye bleach lava
>entire area is just one repeated texture, with a few buildings
>ceaseless discharge has only 1 attack, auto-hits unless you're behind a wall.
>Instead of designing a level, they just stuck 5-6 bosses in a row
>big bad boss is just the THIRD time you fight the fucking asylum demon.
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>>163055157
>>Easiest and worst boss in the franchise
DS3's doesn't even really have a boss (ODK is in Smouldering lake)

>all the enemies are recycled bosses from earlier parts of the game
False.

>eye bleach lava
Brown hallways.

>entire area is just one repeated texture, with a few buildings
False, and they were unique architecture at least.

>ceaseless discharge has only 1 attack, auto-hits unless you're behind a wall.
Both completely false. Sorry you sucked at this boss so bad.

>Instead of designing a level, they just stuck 5-6 bosses in a row
Corridors and right angles.

>big bad boss is just the THIRD time you fight the fucking asylum demon.
Granted.
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>>163054459
>"Broken and never should have been released like this" bad
this sounds more like ds2 to me.
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>>163052563
While you're at it.
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>people literally defending lost izalith and demon ruins
hahahahah
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>>163055447
I don't think anyone is. They both suck, we're just arguing over which is more awful.
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>>163055546
They're all equally terrible but for different reasons. They're the worst part of their respective games. Move on.
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What's the best weapon for PvE? I see speedrunners use some sort of straight sword.
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>>163055601
>not having an incredibly anal purely academic argument over an insignificant subject on the internet that both parties hate anywy
what's wrong with you?
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>>163055649
They use Anri's Striaght Sword because it has pretty good scaling with luck, so you can reach max dmg really fast by just getting your luck to 40 and then gouging your stamina and hp.
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>tfw someone r1s you with a cs and your game crashes
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>>163045772
You online?
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>>163045772
>>163056130
Nvm, has to be tomorrow
Sorry
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>>163052484
>mediocre-decent damage
>best melee range
>midrange speed between axes and swords
>great tracking

>no hyperarmor
>no crowd control
>least varied and inflexible moveset with gimmick WA

balanced/10. They're one trick ponies since all they do are fast jabs but their trick is strong. A wideswing offhand can make up for their weaknesses.
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>>163055768
D-does anyone want to gift a poor, fellow soul on the High Wall of Lothric Anri's Straight Sword. I don't want to kill her. ;_;
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>>163056339
You can use Astora Straight Sword too, and it requires even less investment, just 10 str/dex and 12 faith. As long as you infuse it as RAW, you have a very powerful weapon with literally 0 need for offensive stats that can carry you to the end game. I finished the game with a +2 RAW ASS, a +10 should make you breeze through it.
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I have a craving to cosplay as a member of Farron's Undead Legion. What should I do?

https://youtu.be/lCxmmxHNmVs?t=36
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>>163056697
>What should I do?
suppress your craving, because that sounds awful
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>>163052758
>>163052850
>>163056312

Thanks for the heads up.
Any tips on good PvP Spears and Offhands?
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>>163056853
Mainhand Gargoyle flame spear
Off hand Dark Sword
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>>163056853
Gargoyle Flame Spear is the definitive best one you can get. Stat Requirements are wonky but besides that it's the most range you'll ever have on a spear and most damage too. It's only balanced by the fact that it has split damage with fire, which gets higher absorption with str, meaning almost everyone will have it at the softcap.

After that is Dragonslayer Spear. Another split damage spear, doesn't have as much range but it's still on the top side of all spears. Split damage with lightning, which also gets absorption by investing in ENDURANCE, meaning most people will have its defense softcapped.

Other remarkable spears don't exist, but the Lothric Knight Long Spear is really good. It's not a real spear, though, but you can give it a try, its moveset is different and actually fun.
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>>163056853
Offensive pressure with spears. Poke people from a distance like an asshole and swing offhand when they dodge to your flanks. Your offhand choice depends on your choice of sword and their benefits (ugs have everything but stamina consumption and swing speed while daggers have the opposite with straight swords being the above average on all fields). Prioritize on stamina consumption and incoming parries. There you go, your one way ticket to cancer accusations.
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>>163056853

Four-Pronged Plow is also a good spear if you're interested. Second highest pure physical AR spear next to the Partizan is the longest of the physical ones. Good with Leo Ring of course.
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>>163057369
I completely forgot about the plow and I use it on my mage build. Shame on me.
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>>163057431
I'd plow your mage too.
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>>163057583
oooooh but anon....
What if i want that?
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>>163057671
Wouldn't that make you a slut?
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>>163057713
No, i just want you.
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>>163057792
SLUT
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>>163057838
I've never had sex though anon, i've been saving myself for you.
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>>163025187
>tfw stunlocking him with r1s with solaire on my first playthrough
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>Level 25 +3 weapon in Woods.
>Fight another level 25 I guess but he has a phantom.
>Phantom is a debuffed high level with full havel's, havel's GS, and Dragonslayer GA.
What's the fuckin' point you assholes?
to top it off the host tried to gang up on me when I'm stunlocked by the god damn Dragonslayer Axe, I tried to parry it but I couldn't get the timing down so I just used the black crystal to leave, fuck that.
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if i'm on NG+ but low level, can i summon/be summoned by others in NG?
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/dsg/, how accurate do you feel I am? Please note, this is for mainly PvP only, as most spells are suitable for PvE gameplay.
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http://mmdks.com/8h9z
Going full retard in the forest to try to cop the Ring of Fog instead of moseying down to the Tomb of Giants
Fuck that place seriously
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>>163058696

Dark Souls 2 wins yet again
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>>163058696
Add deep souls to DaS3 and replace crystal souls mass with normal soul mass.
Also remove every instance of hidden weapon.
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>>163058696
I agree with the DeS one, I guess
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Can someone help me pass some items to my alt?
Platform PC
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>>163050547

But Dragons don't have souls.
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>>163058696
>DaS3
>no pyromancies
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>all those shit spells
lmao not even close

>des
curse weapon
firestorm
second chance

>das
wog
dark bead
black flame
crystal magic weapon
dmb
slb

>das2
crystal soul spear
great resonant soul
forbidden fun
sacred oath
all weapon buffs(- flame weapon) because infusion+buff cancer
heavenly thunder

>das3
soul mass
fire surge
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>>163058696
>leaving out ds3's pyromancies
You're not even trying.
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>>163058853
>replace CHSM with HSM
Why? I think I agree with you but I don't remember exactly why, it's been a while since I played DaS3.
>every instance of Hidden Weapon
You can do some interesting meme shit with it though, it fucks with people's sense of range sometimes. If I was gonna get rid of that, I'd get rid of other shit like Strong Magic Shield too, but they've seen use and aren't complete failures so I'm fine with having them up there.

>>163058827
It's about the only time it wins.

>>163059117
Oh FUCK you're right. Hold up I'll add those in. I knew the list felt too short.
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>>163058884
Whats items and where at?
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qt playing a blind playthrough. @khaljiit on twitch
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>>163059169
CHSM costs way too much in DaS3. HSM does barely less damage for less than half the FP.
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>>163058696
>DaS
>more than 5 spells
>DaS3
>no pyromancies
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>>163059338
Fuck off.
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>>163059275
farron keep perimeter, pass: items
need to pass the +2 rings to my alt and some unupgraded weapons
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FC is over, I need some sleep
Thanks for coming !
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>>163059397
If you got any +! rings I'm willing to do it or take those.
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Okay so here's what I'm adding to DkS3:
>Fire Orb
>Great Chaos Fire Orb
>Vestiges
>Fire Whip
>Chaos Storm
>Great Combustion
>Sacred Flame
>Profaned Flame
>Carthus Flame Arc

On that note, are any of the following good?
>Firestorm
>Fire Surge
>Iron Flesh
>Power Within
>Black Flame
>Black Serpent
>Floating Chaos

Also I forgot Power Within in DkS1, so I'll add that in.
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>>163052484
>tfw it's itching you already
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>>163059471
>are any of the following good
>power within
>black flame
>black serpent
>fire surge

>adding
>sacred flame

Just stop.
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>>163059463
I can reload my save and give them to ya, if you're patient enough
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>>163059397
>>163059564
Yeah. Anyways go to Farron Keep I don't have Perimeter I don't think, I'm waiting.
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>>163059562
Does anyone have that image where she's like "I want you to cum inside me" and he says "pfft no way fag"
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>>163059562
I have limited experience with Pyromancy in DkS3.

I've seen Sacred Flame work SOMETIMES. You're probably right though, most likely only works on garbage players.
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>>163059471
Black Flame and Black serpent are the best spells in DaS3. Fore surge is good too.
Also, don't add Carthus Flame Arc, a Dark infused weapon is always better. Fire whip and Great Combustion are outclassed by Fire Surge and Black Flame. Chaos storm is bad. Power Within is too short. Fire orb is outclassed by other pyromancies.
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>>163040516
DeS
>Doran's death cry
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>>163059471
>sacred flame

You're not even trying with the bait
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>>163059667
I'm fine with them being outclassed, but I'm making a list of all usable pyromancies in PvP. Don't get me wrong there are better pyromancies you could use, as you said in your case Fire Orb is literally a worse version of Chaos Fire Orb, but that doesn't mean it doesn't do damage.

Thanks for the other tips though, I'll add Fire Surge, Black Flame, and Black Serpent.
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>trade with a straight sword
>we're both staggered
>he can swing again before i can get out of stagger
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I need a katana in DS2

Chaos Blade or Bewitched Sword?
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>>163059634
For some reason I don't, but there's like 7 normal versions and a bunch of these floating around right now due to a slight meme revival

>>163059642
Just stop in general. Stop
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How's this?

>>163060146
No.
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>>163060225
Don't
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>>163060225
Remove the downgrades and "works against some people" spells since you might as well list them all
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>>163057012
>>163057206
>>163057251
>>163057369

Thanks /dsg/ you mofos are alright
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>>163060040
Uchi is the best and easiest to get.
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>>163060712
Goblin?!
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>>163060225
Refer to this post >>163059150
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>>163060470
A lot of shitty spells aren't on there because they don't do enough damage or literally only retards will get hit by them.

>>163060861
>>163059150
Those are all the best spells, which isn't what the list was made for.
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>>163060040
Chaos blade is the best katana and one of the few top tier cancer. All katanas except bewitched are great.
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>>163060921
Just stop
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>>163060921
you said viability, that's very subjective. my list refers to pvp viability. pve viability is a joke, you can finish the game on fists why wouldn't you be able with shitty spells
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>>163060758

But I don't want to use common trash

I want top trash
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>>163061039
What part of "THE BEST" didn't you read? Uchi has almost the same fucking damage as chaos blade, only 10 less counter damage and it's not a boss weapon meaning you'll +10 it 1 hours into the game. It's the best katana bar none because you don't self damage with it.
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>>163061016
My list is PvP only too. I even said in the first post I made that it was.

All the spells in my list are meaningful enough to where they can either do damage or alter a fight enough to affect it overall. Fire Orb might not be a top tier skill but it can still hit like a fucking truck.
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Does the tree jump in DS3 still work or has that been patched?
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I haven't played DaS3 in about 6 months.

What's the meta and what's the /dsg/ approved SL?
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>>163061154
Stop anon
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>>163061154
fire orb is trash. if you're convinced otherwise I'll just do like that other anon and tell you to just stop.

>>163061160
still works

>>163061164
still curved swords and katanas
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>>163061271
Who is this sperm worm.
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Anyone have any luck with storyteller staff poison? I'm tempted to grab a ghru spear and build up poison with it and then trying to use the staff poison.
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>>163061386
A pokemon trainer that nobody cares about.
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>>163061271
Why is Fire Orb trash? Its only flaw is that it doesn't do as much damage as Chaos Fire Orb. That doesn't mean it's a bad skill. It means it's worse than Chaos Fire Orb, sure, but that doesn't make it trash.
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>>163061531
What a mean bean.
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>>163061707
you see, the magic hierarchy in the game works like this

there's soul arrow and there is great soul arrow. why would you use soul arrow if great soul arrow does the same thing for a meaningless increase in cost and same stamina usage? therefore, soul arrow is garbage.

The point of viability is if the thing you're using is the best in slot. If it's not, you're wasting your time.
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>>163061707
>downgrade
>doesn't have as big an area, damage, or lava pool, essentially a waste to use in pvp, the goal of the list
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>>163061707
Just stop
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Was the nonsensical world scale and pathways in DaS2 a deliberate thing they did or just a fuckup as a result of the weird development cycle the game had?

I could almost buy it as the same sort of asspull as 'time is convoluted' type of shit.
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>>163058696
Organize them into tier lists.

DS2 has a lot of viable spells but most of them are low tier or have superior versions in the game.
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>>163061834
>>163061874
If it can kill people reliably, how is it garbage? Comparing Soul Arrow and Great Soul Arrow is a bit of a stretch, considering Soul Arrow is the first sorcery you get and Great Soul Arrow has much better damage output. If we were to compare them, then it's the same as comparing Great Soul Arrow and Crystal Soul Spear. Effectively they're the same thing, but Crystal Soul Spear does a ton more damage.

The point I'm trying to make here is that just because something is better that doesn't mean it is trash.

>>163061986
Starting to think this was a better idea, honestly. I just spent 20 minutes on this shitty thing though so I'm probably not up to making tier lists and putting it into an image.
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>>163062170
>If it can kill people reliably
IT CAN'T, STOP.
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>>163062205
But it can, I've seen plenty of japs use regular Fire Orb alongside Chaos Fire Orb and still kill people.

Here, think of it this way: My list is everything on a tier list that is Average to Top Tier.
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>>163062170
Stop
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>>163062170
>Crystal soul spear does a ton more damage
>is actually less useful than a regular soul spear in PvP, an already not very useful at all spell
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>>163061874
>having all these shitty meme ones
>not the original meme image
FUCK YOU PIECE OF GARBAGE
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>>163062580
There is no need to be upset
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>>163062170
>If it can kill people reliably, how is it garbage?
It can't kill people reliably.
>Comparing Soul Arrow and Great Soul Arrow is a bit of a stretch
No it's not. GSA is the third in soul arrow hierarchy, it's the same for fire ball and fire orb in terms of cost and damage increase.
>same to compare GSA to CSS
do you even play the same game as us? SA costs 7 fp to cast, GSA costs 11 and CSS costs 55.
>Effectively they're the same thing
no they're not. that's why I was comparing soul arrow and great soul arrow.
>just because something is better that doesn't mean it is trash.
jesus christ this is the whole point of viability, if it isn't good enough to be on par with the best it's not viable, specially in this broken mess of a series.
as an example, crystal soul mass vs soul mass. Crystal deals double the damage of regular, but takes double the time to cast and costs double the stamina and 2/3 more fp. You're OPEN AS FUCK when you cast it. It's just a worse version of regular soul mass, even if the game states otherwise because MUH LORE or MUH CRYSTAL.

>>163062265
Fire Orb is not average. It's a waste of slot. Specially in Dark Souls 3 where there are only 2, maybe 3 viable spells.

tl;dr STOP
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>>163062834
>It can't kill people reliably.
Why do you think this? It does a lot of damage and isn't any harder to hit than Chaos Fire Orb is, and while it does lose out on the lava pool that doesn't mean you can't hit with it. Why would you think that it couldn't kill people?
>GSA is the third in soul arrow hierarchy, it's the same for fire ball and fire orb in terms of cost and damage increase.
I suppose you're right in that they're the same hierarchy-wise, but Soul Arrow does garbage damage compared to Great Soul Arrow. It does like, what, 150-200 on a pure Mage compared to the 350-400 (maybe even 500, it's been a while) that GSA does? Not worth using when everyone has >1k HP. That doesn't make GSA shit though when you could use better skills that do more damage.
>do you even play the same game as us? SA costs 7 fp to cast, GSA costs 11 and CSS costs 55.
I was thinking more of damage output and reliability, so no I wasn't thinking about FP. I was thinking more of Dark Souls 1 honestly.
>jesus christ this is the whole point of viability, if it isn't good enough to be on par with the best it's not viable
Do you know what "viable" means? Here's the definition from google since you don't seem to know: "capable of working successfully; feasible." I think we can both agree that if it can reliably kill someone, then it's viable, correct? I mean that's the whole point of PvP.

I used CHSM for a while before the FP cost was kind of a pain to maintain and so I decided to use HSM instead. Does that mean that CHSM is garbage? No, it still does more damage than HSM even if it is a little bit, and most of the time you at least get one free cast of CHSM/HSM at the beginning of a duel anyways so the FP, time to cast, and stamina usage isn't that big of a deal. If you only ever cast CHSM/HSM once, then it's better to just use CHSM over HSM. If you constantly recast CHSM/HSM, then HSM is better. Just because your playstyle doesn't fit the spell doesn't mean it's shit, m8.
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So kick is useful for staggering or breaking shields. The fuc is the point of any other forward r1?
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>>163063415
Stop
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>>163062834
as an addendum to this post
magic viability is inversely proportional to your opponent's thinking ability
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>>163063490
Rapier's ones are fast and you can do fancy stuff with CS ones on low latency, not sure how reliable this is.
Kick is better when you hit outside shields as many weapons can kick-R1
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>>163063490

The curved sword one is a good tool to do some quick damage to your opponent and create some space due to its speed.l

The rapier unique one by contrast isn't as good.
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>>163063502
Autist.

>>163063582
You're right, but my list was made with the average player in mind. Like for example I don't think the average player would ever get hit normally in a PvP match with the soul beam sorcery.
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So, starting a NG on DS3 for the 2nd time.
I wanted some advice on what my character stats should be to not waste any level ups:

>Melee character,not gonna use any miracles/hexes,just some pyromancies and maybe resin/bundles

>Armor weight range that will be used in the run : Alva>>>Exile

>Only gonna use (ultra/curved)greatswords

>Same as the one above, with the weapons instead: Zwhei>>>>>>>Greatsword

>Yeh,SL120

If more information is needed just let me know. Going tryhard on this one so I'll prepare myself properly
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>>163063715
Stop
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>>163061271
I remember it being straight swords and katanas
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>>163063715
>average
ok, i can kill average players with a +0 darkdrift, does it make it viable?
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>>163063895
You know what I mean, friend.
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>>163063415
>if it can reliably kill someone
The reliability of a spell or weapon is not indicative of its overall usefulness, because reliability and someone's opinion of it can warp to fighting "Retards", "The Average Player", and on and so forth.

There is no reason, with the damage and results given, to cast Crystal Homing Soul Mass over Homing Soul Mass, after seeing it in action. It's "viable" because it does damage and hits people, but it's "not viable" because it's resource wasteful compared to HSM. HSM does good damage and stunlocks someone, CHSM does good damage and stunlocks someone for more FP than you should need.

You wouldn't put Farron Dart & Great Farron Dart or Soul Arrow & Great Soul Arrow, would you? They're viable but there's absolutely no reason to use them, same for Fire Orb vs Great Chaos Fire Orb

>>163063715
No, but "The Average Player" means a lot of things.
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>>163064067
And it's actually really funny in hindsight that both Great Farron Dart and Great Soul Arrow are better spells than HCSM, at least for pvp.
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>>163064067
The difference between those examples and Fire Orb vs. Great Chaos Fire Orb is that Fire Orb can kill people much more frequently than Farron Dart, Fireball, or Soul Arrow could. Hell probably even moreso than Great Soul Arrow or Great Farron Dart. Does that mean those spells are trash?

Think of it this way: Dark Bead was easily the best spell you could use in Dark Souls 1, but that doesn't mean every other spell was garbage. This is basically what you're implying here, that if something is better than something else, that other thing is garbage.

Again, if you only cast CHSM once and at the beginning of a duel, which most players who use CHSM or HSM do half the time instead of continuously casting it throughout fights, then it's better to just use CHSM instead of HSM.
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Lucatiel's mask would be 10/10 without the mask. Right now it's about 6/10
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>>163060040
Chaos blade. Bewitched Sword is only strong if you can't kill your enemy in <8 hits while keeping the buff up. Not likely to ever happen.

Uchigatana is best though.
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So I'm playing with a RAW ASS and I'm wondering what else I can do; I've only ever played a nude clubber in the DS series.

If you guys have any armor/shield suggestions, advice for a direction to take this build, or if you just want to meme me, please let me know!
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>>163061986
>>163062170
Just separate it out into

"Best PvP Spells" for the ones that you want to use

and

"Viable PvP Spells" for the ideal spells that work with certain strategies, but aren't always the best. Fire orb does not count as either of these, just because you "can" kill someone doesn't mean it's pvp viable. Someone with chaos fire orb is going to kill someone using fire orb 99/100 times.
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>>163064601

What kind of build do you want to do? Raw ASS is something any build can do so it depends on what you would like to do further. Quality, pure STR/DEX, pyro, sorcery and faith HA are all available to you with a myriad of options.
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>>163063490
>can't kick backstab anymore

REE

or can you
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>>163062525
>>163062170
Great Heavy Soul Arrow and Crystal Soul Spear would be PvP Viable. They have advantages and using them over something more ideal only sacrifices a bit (damage, or cast number, or stats).

Regular Soul Spear is a top tier PvP spell. It's better than all other INT projectiles, there's no reason to use other ones if you can focus on this one instead. The only reason you would use crystal soul spear is if you needed more high damage projectiles or were running a 60 INT build or some reason.

See the difference?
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>>163063817

If you want to use pyromancies and greatswords go full 40/40 INT/FAI with the Onyx Blade from the DLC. Get 2-3 attunement slots and stock the rest into Vigor and Endurance.
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>>163064397
>implying implications about my implications
The best spell you could use in Dark Souls 1 was probably unironically Black Flame.

Retroactively, there should be no reason to use Great Combustion or Combustion, because it's the same spell but better. Entirely.

Dark Bead wasn't even good, and has no real equal in terms of casting and use mechanics - so your argument for it is moot.

Now, in a game with FP primarily dictating a spell's effectiveness, HSM is still better than CHSM because your most use is to stunlock, harass, or etc. A fool's errand is to try and focus it down for damage.

HSM is also more usable, which makes the slot that less misused. Do you want a 43 FP, inefficient spell that will get less mileage out of your Blue Estus for less damage, or a 20 FP, harassment spell that does enough damage and spacing to justify its use?

Fire Orb is also inferior to GFCO when considering the damage increase, lava, and FP use. There's no reason to use it when considering all the factors, like attunement slots. You're never going to use Fire Orb when you could use GCFO in your lineup.
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>>163064934
>
Retroactively, there should be no reason to use Great Combustion or Combustion, because it's the same spell but better. Entirely.
Less casts. Which may or may not be a problem. I'm not that anon you're arguing with, but your point of view is so narrowsighted that you should probably stop. It's also doesn't help that he's arguing poorly anyways
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>>163064850
>Investing that you might use Soul Spear or GHSA
>Running a 60 INT build or some reason

Or maybe that Crystal variants cost an arbitrarily high amount of FP when you can regularly squeeze about the same amount of impacts from a person before killing them with either, or maybe you can easily finish them off with some other spell that's less taxing and more efficient in tandem with Soul Spear so that you aren't sitting there with your pants down after CSS
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>>163064843
I just want as much DPS as possible. Fashion is not a concern.
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>>163065048
But you're leaving out the fact that Black Flame has dramatically higher damage, partial physical damage, and higher stamina/poise damage when attacking another player. Black Flame is great for opening up ripostes or forcing someone off of you with a stagger that does good damage as well.

The good outweighs the bad here, because Black Flame is more easily applied.
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>>163065079

If you want DPS stick with the Astora's for now and switch to the Broadsword from High Wall or the Dark Sword from the Darkwraiths in Farron Keep. Go 40/40 Refined, slap Carthus Rouge on them once you get an infinite buyable amount and watch everything in PvE die horribly.
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>>163065073
explain it simpler so he can understand, he's clearly a dumb dumb

>homing soul mass
270dmg
20 fp
1/4 of your stamina bar
>crystal homing soul mass
480dmg
43fp
2/3 of your stamina bar
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>>163065196
Pros and cons my friend. Use what works for you. You're definitely speaking from a biased perspective when you say "the good outweighs the bad", but that's fine as it suits you.
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>>163065306
It's not biased at all. Every good PvPer agrees black flame is straight up better and the only reason to use combustion ever is that you haven't reached black flame yet
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>>163064934
I'm not trying to say that HSM is worse than CHSM to use, I don't know why you're trying to say any of this to me because I remembered that it was better to use overall, but the point is CHSM isn't shit if you're using it for a different purpose.

>Fire Orb is also inferior to GFCO when considering the damage increase, lava, and FP use.
It doesn't do that much more damage than Fire Orb, anybody can dodge the lava, and it costs 10 more FP to use. It also takes up one more attunement slot. Given all this, there are plenty of reasons to use Fire Orb: It does similar, albiet less damage, takes up only one attunement slot, and uses less FP.
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>>163065447
Okay anon. I'm done arguing with you then. Peace.
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>>163065306
What are the pros and cons of using Great Combustion compared to Black Flame? "More casts" isn't valid in this situation because they both have the same ATT slot costs, Black Flame does absurdly higher damage to HP, Poise, and Guarding while also dealing physical damage.

In DaS1, in this particular situation, "Doing more damage" is in fact a valid defense.
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Any of you guys have the dual shock 4 working for the pc version?

everything works but the right joystick is forever spinning my camerat. happens in both 3 & Scholar
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>>163065817
Perhaps you should feed your camerat. It's probably hungry.
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>>163065817
Yeah. I installed this SCP driver package a long time ago and never looked back. My PC thinks my PS4 controller is an xbone controller thanks to it.
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Here let me end this asinine argument for you all.

>Magic
>Good
>Viable

Pick none.
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>>163065472
>CHSM isn't shit if you're using it for a different purpose.
It still is. +23 FP/50% Stamina use for meaningless damage, especially with regards for soul mass applications.

>Fire Orb vs GCFO
Direct impact is worth ~100+ extra damage with lava damage adding another approximate 110 ish, factor that in with the fact that you can apply GCFO to lava ground catches when given chase. The damage that GCFO gives is well worth a mere 10 FP to 23 from CHSM, the weakest point is only the ATT slot.
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There a MagAdj (or whatever DaS3 calls it) calculator somewhere?
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Anyone want to trade/give an Onyx Blade? I'm making a int/fai pyro build for my 4th playthrough and I want to use that weapon early on.
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>>163066185
just rush the dlc and kill the faggot, it's literally behind 3 bosses
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>>163066185

Are you on PC? I can give it to you if so.
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>>163065967
If you're casting CHSM/HSM once at the beginning of the fight, the FP usage is negligable since you'll gulp it back anyways and the stamina regen is also negligable since the fight hasn't even really started yet. The damage is meaningful enough at that point to use CHSM over HSM, if that's all you're using it for.

100 extra damage isn't a lot if you're using it constantly, and again the GCFO lava is easy to play around. You have to be a retard to actually take damage from it. It's 15 more FP, and worth an extra attunement slot. It's not garbage regardless of what you say, anon.
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>>163066269
Yeah I'm on PC. Can you come to high wall? I already cleared the boss so I'll just summon you as an enemy.
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>>163066540

Sounds good, I'll place my sign by the bonfire. Password is dsg.
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Anyone on PS4 want a bitch to help them through any part (or all) of PVE? I'm tired of doing art assets and want an excuse to stop.
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>>163066592
Alright, cool. Thanks!

You can just kill me after giving me the Onyx Blade.
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Anyone know what causes DS1 Sif to lag so badly on PC? Its something to do with his fur but I'm finding myself dying due to the framerate randomly bouncing between 5fps and 20fps during his fight. It makes him almost unbeatable...

Is there a DSfix setting that fixes this?
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>>163066592
Thanks again famalam
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No but seriously is there a Spell Buff calculator out there somewhere? Or could someone tell me if it's worth taking Int past a certain point? I notice http://i.imgur.com/E0Ns2og.png stops at 60.
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>>163066756
EDIT: It seems like google searching shows this is a common problem with Radeon graphics cards. Game runs fine everywhere (even blightown) but the rolling cats, sif, moving through fog gates, all of those effects make the game almost unplayable, and in the case of sif, -actually- unplayable.

What settings do I need to use to get it to stop lagging during sif?
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>>163066324
>The FP usage is negligable since you'll gulp it back anyways
That's not a valid way of thinking. That way of thinking means that all FP usage is negligible since you'll eventually break out the flask anyways - more FP is less casts and less flasks and less longevity in a fight. Especially considering that Ashtus is a million times easier to punish than Estus due to have no healing factor when using it - meaning someone dogging you would be able to whip you for sipping.

The damage is about 200 more, but you could achieve even more damage by using it to combo with another spell like Farron Flashsword. With this way of thinking HSM surpasses CHSM in that aspect since it stunlocks for further application, and leaves with more casts on spells that you use from a distance compared to CHSM, which force you to down that much earlier.

The lava from GCFO is able to hit people who get stunned by it and roll out of it, even, and it's easy to have people roll into what looks like an aimed cast but actually hit the ground in front of you and have them hurt themselves. It even hits people smack dab in the middle of their own roll iframes.

"Being a retard" is not a valid claim against anything, being a retard will get you hit by even White Dragon Breath. You're saying it's easy to play around because on a use by use basis you have people who dodge it or you yourself dodge it, but that's just confirmation bias.
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weapon infusements are so garbage in dark souls 3
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>>163066756

That's normal. The fur effects and the particle effects are very resource intensive. You can make it a little better by unlocking your framerate.
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>>163066851
There's no mag calculator available, no.

But generally speaking you want Court Sorcerer at 50-60, 60 for INT and FAI is the stopping point if you're using spells like Soul Spear or Sunlight Spear in that way. But 50 is a strong enough level if you're more hybrid or use spells that don't have that much to gain anyway
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>>163066939

Why.
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>>163067021
Is there no point to going to 99, then? 65-70 was still getting gains for MLGS IIRC, but I've been gone for a few months and never actually did much spell casting. I'm looking to make a pure caster.

Is it that gains past 60 are small, or do they just stop?
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>>163067142
Within 120, no. Gains are insubstantial for each level you spend on them.

During the Vicar event, though, we had a 99 FAI caster whose Lightning Stakes pierced the heavens - but Vicars were SL170 already.
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>>163067142

The gains past 60 are negligible as that is the second softcap for every damage stat. For the MLGS as a weapon 40 is enough to gain the majority of its scaling in fact, going from 40 to 60 INT only nets you 24 magic AR from it.
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>>163067254
>>163067265
Thanks m8s. Gonna stop at 60 then I suppose.
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What the fuck is this armor called? Abyss Watcher right? It doesn't seem to be in MugenMonkey anymore.
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>>163062580
Here, friend. I found this.
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>>163066939
>27 str/ 30 dex/ 40 int/ 15-20 faith with or w/o priestess ring
>crystal or dark rhh main hand
>crystal or dark longsword off hand

Honestly I highly doubt it's as effective as pure quality, but It also doesn't disappoint me in pvp scenarios . Just finishing the build tonight so maybe I'll change my mind
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>>163067686
>wearing the armor
>can't read it
>can't even read the descriptions
Undead Legion you blind idiot
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>>163067686
Undead Legion I think
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>>163067897
>>163067897
>>163067897
>>163067897
NEW
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>>163067718
>>163067049
if its not a physical infusement its trash because you can't buff, if you can't buff it then it does less damage because of split resist

even applying resin is better in most cases
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>>163041603
the worst souls is your favorite?

found the xbox fag,
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>>163042996
lol curved swords.
i trash them all time,
its called greatclubs. use them, win any 1v1.
easy
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>>163055369
ds2 was a joke, only played it because i wanted more ds content, and ds2 was shit.
armor meant nothing, lvling meant nothing,
it was hex or lose
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